Re: Stus-List Youngest & Oldest

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

81

Alan Bergen

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 6:36 PM Stu via CnC-List 
wrote:

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>
> *From:* Bill Coleman via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:56 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Bill Coleman
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI
>
>
> Wow, I think you win the prize~!
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob
> Hamlin via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:53 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Rob Hamlin
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI
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>
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> I’m 36
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> 57.
>
> Therapy
>
> C&C 29-2
>
> Solomons MD
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>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> 
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> What is the youngest age in this group and oldest
>
> I’m 40
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the
> virus. I have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now.
> It will end. We can schedule then
>
> Stay safe
>
> Jim Schwartz
>
> SEA YA !
>
> 38 landfall
>
> Washington nc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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>  Original message 
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> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
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> Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>
> Cc: Robert Boyer 
>
> Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?
>
>
>
> Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C
> Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from
> the relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United
> States and it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite
> well in controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19
> could mean much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it
> could be a death blow.
>
>
>
> Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I
> will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that
> this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this
> list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get
> together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of
> catching COVID-19.
>
>
>
> So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should
> this year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host
> it and where?
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> Robert Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
>
> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on
> the ICW in between)
>
> 411 Walnut Street #11447
> 
>
> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
> 
>
> (443) 994-1802
>
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Re: Stus-List Zoom Rendezvous

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Hi,

If needed I can set up a zoom for max occupancy of 300.

-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:41 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 02:19:26 +
> From: John Conklin mailto:jconk...@hotmail.com>>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com " 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Zoom Rendezvous
> Message-ID:
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> >
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> It?s our new normal all this virtual everything
> I am a southeast regional sales manager
> And have been training , conferences , shows ... all virtual and sales are up!
> Would love to do a big meeting
> Think I have the 100 Occupancy
> Program :)
> 
> John Conklin
> S/V Halcyon
> S/V Heartbeat
> www.flirtingwithfire.com 

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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Donald Kern via CnC-List]

Jim
You got me. Will be 77 in Nov.
Don Kern
Fireball C&C3 MK2
Bristol RI

On 7/14/2020 10:04 PM, detroito91 via CnC-List wrote:

77...might be the old winner
Jim Schwartz
SEA YA !
38 landfall
Washington nc



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On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
 wrote:



What is the youngest age in this group and oldest

I’m 40




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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

And I was sure you were older!

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 5:54 40PM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
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> I'm almost 63. But I act 24. 😎
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> Doug Mountjoy
> sv Rebecca Leah 
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> Port Orchard yacht club
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Can't beat either high or low (right between the last two)

Marek


 Original message 
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Date: 2020-07-14 22:08 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

I’m around 27.

Second time around. (54)

All the best,

Edd

———-
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
www.StarshipSailing.com
———-
914.774.9767   | Mobile
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On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:05 PM, detroito91 via CnC-List  
wrote:


77...might be the old winner
Jim Schwartz
SEA YA !
38 landfall
Washington nc
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Paul Marble via CnC-List]

I'm 61.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:16 PM Paul Marble  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:28 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> What is the youngest age in this group and oldest
>> I’m 40
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the
>>> virus. I have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now.
>>> It will end. We can schedule then
>>> Stay safe
>>> Jim Schwartz
>>> SEA YA !
>>> 38 landfall
>>> Washington nc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>>> Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> Cc: Robert Boyer 
>>> Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?
>>>
>>> Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C
>>> Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from
>>> the relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United
>>> States and it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite
>>> well in controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19
>>> could mean much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it
>>> could be a death blow.
>>>
>>> Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and
>>> I will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage
>>> that this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on
>>> this list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get
>>> together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of
>>> catching COVID-19.
>>>
>>> So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should
>>> this year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host
>>> it and where?
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Robert Boyer
>>> s/v Rainy Days
>>> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
>>> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on
>>> the ICW in between)
>>> 411 Walnut Street #11447
>>> 
>>> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
>>> 
>>> (443) 994-1802
>>>
>>> ___
>>>
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>>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
>>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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>>> --
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>> *www.jdroofing.ca *
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Paul Marble via CnC-List]

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:28 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> What is the youngest age in this group and oldest
> I’m 40
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the
>> virus. I have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now.
>> It will end. We can schedule then
>> Stay safe
>> Jim Schwartz
>> SEA YA !
>> 38 landfall
>> Washington nc
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>> Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: Robert Boyer 
>> Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?
>>
>> Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C
>> Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from
>> the relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United
>> States and it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite
>> well in controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19
>> could mean much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it
>> could be a death blow.
>>
>> Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and
>> I will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage
>> that this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on
>> this list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get
>> together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of
>> catching COVID-19.
>>
>> So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should
>> this year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host
>> it and where?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Robert Boyer
>> s/v Rainy Days
>> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
>> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on
>> the ICW in between)
>> 411 Walnut Street #11447
>> 
>> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
>> 
>> (443) 994-1802
>>
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>>
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>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
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Re: Stus-List Zoom Rendezvous

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

It’s our new normal all this virtual everything
I am a southeast regional sales manager
And have been training , conferences , shows ... all virtual and sales are up!
Would love to do a big meeting
Think I have the 100 Occupancy
Program :)

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On Jul 14, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 Stu,

It is $20 a month for a meeting that can accommodate up 100 participants for up 
to 24 h. You would have to make sure that you cancel before they charge you for 
the following month.

Google Meetings (what used to be Hangouts) should be available at no extra cost.

Marek


 Original message 
From: Stu via CnC-List 
Date: 2020-07-14 19:11 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List Zoom Rendezvous

I think the idea of a pre-scheduled zoom rendezvous is great.  It is a chance 
to actually put faces on names and not have to worry about catching the virus 
or getting out of your pajamas to attend.

Zoom is relatively inexpensive.  You can get a free plan for 40 minutes – not 
time for much to happen.  The pricing plan is a little hard to understand (is 
it $20 or $2000).  I’ll see if I can get some clarification.

Anybody have other ideas of conference calling programs – Facebook Rooms, 
Skype, etc.  Ideas for hosting – meet and greet, specific topics from a 
knowledgeable person, or other ideas?

Let me know and I’ll see what I can put together.

Stu
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Re: Stus-List Zoom C&C Rendezvous

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Great idea
I Would love to be included in the zoom call and yes can do it from the boat :)


John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:14 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
wrote:

 I have a Zoom pro account that can host up to 100 participants that we can 
use if you like.  The PNW event was cancelled too.  So, I would love to see us 
all get together...maybe from our boats even!

Tom B

At 04:42 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:43:24 -0400
From: Edd Schillay 
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Bob,

While I am not in the mid-Atlantic, I agree that any 2020 rendezvous should be 
cancelled.

I?m all for a Zoom-C&C Online Rendezvous. I?d say that we?d have to make sure 
that David Risch covers his webcam, but he probably won?t show anyway.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log < http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>




.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

I’m around 27. 

Second time around. (54)

All the best, 

Edd

———-
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
www.StarshipSailing.com
———-
914.774.9767   | Mobile
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On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:05 PM, detroito91 via CnC-List  
wrote:


77...might be the old winner 
Jim Schwartz 
SEA YA !
38 landfall 
Washington nc ___

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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

77...might be the old winner Jim Schwartz SEA YA !38 landfall Washington nc 
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Stu via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/14/20  9:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stu  Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 
C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI 


How about 3/4 of a century + 1?
 
Stu


 

From: Bill 
Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to 
COVI
 


Wow, 
I think you win the prize~!
 


From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hamlin via 
CnC-ListSent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:53 PMTo: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Rob HamlinSubject: Re: Stus-List 
2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI
 
I’m 36 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:36 PM, 
Thomas Perison via CnC-List  
wrote:

  
  57. 
  
  Therapy 
  
  C&C 29-2
  
  Solomons MD
  
   
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  
  On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, 
  Joel Delamirande via CnC-List  
  wrote:
  




What is the youngest age in this group and oldest 


I’m 40

 


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  
  
  I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages 
  to gamble with the virus. I have not left the house since march, and not 
  going to gamble now. It will end. We can schedule 
then
  
  Stay safe 
  
  Jim Schwartz 
  
  SEA YA ! 
  
  38 landfall 
  
  Washington nc 
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
  
  Sent from 
  my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
  
   
  
   
  
  
   Original message 
  
  
  From: Robert Boyer via 
  CnC-List  
  
  
  Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM 
  (GMT-05:00) 
  
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
  
  Cc: Robert Boyer  
  
  Subject: Stus-List 2020 
  C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19? 
  
   
  Last year, I 
  volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C Rendezvous 
  in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from the 
  relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United States 
  and it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite well 
in 
  controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 
  could mean much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it 
  could be a death blow.
  
   
  
  Consequently, I am 
  withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I will not be 
  attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that this 
  year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this 
  list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend 
  get together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the 
  risk of catching COVID-19.
  
   
  
  So, I am throwing out 
  the question to other possible attendees, should this year’s rendezvous 
be 
  cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it and 
  where?
  
   
  
  Bob
  
  
   
  
  
  
  
  Robert 
  Boyers/v Rainy DaysC&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
  
  (Spending 
  hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the ICW in 
  between)
  
  411 
  Walnut Street #11447
  
  Green 
  Cove Springs, FL 32043
  
  (443) 
  994-1802
   
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Wow Doug, you are giving me hope!

 

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Cc: Doug Robinson
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

 

86

C&C 29 MKI Nemesis

Niagara on the Lake, ON

On 7/14/20 9:33 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote:

71

Sam Salter 

C&C 26  Liquorice 

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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 174, Issue 61

[Luke Wolbrink via CnC-List]

I think I might take the cake... 35, same age as my 1985 35-3 Zella

~Luke

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>1. Re:  2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI (Doug Mountjoy)
>2. Re:  2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI (Bill Coleman)
>3. Re:  2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI (Sam Salter)
>4.  Youngest & Oldest (Stu)
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Doug Mountjoy 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 17:54:40 -0700
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI
> I'm almost 63. But I act 24. 😎
>
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> sv Rebecca Leah
> C&C Landfall 39
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Bill Coleman 
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> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:56:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI
>
> Wow, I think you win the prize~!
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob
> Hamlin via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:53 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Rob Hamlin
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI
>
>
>
> I’m 36
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 57.
>
> Therapy
>
> C&C 29-2
>
> Solomons MD
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> What is the youngest age in this group and oldest
>
> I’m 40
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the
> virus. I have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now.
> It will end. We can schedule then
>
> Stay safe
>
> Jim Schwartz
>
> SEA YA !
>
> 38 landfall
>
> Washington nc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>
>
>
>
>  Original message 
>
> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>
> Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>
> Cc: Robert Boyer 
>
> Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?
>
>
>
> Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C
> Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from
> the relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United
> States and it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite
> well in controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19
> could mean much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it
> could be a death blow.
>
>
>
> Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I
> will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that
> this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this
> list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get
> together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of
> catching COVID-19.
>
>
>
> So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should
> this year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host
> it and where?
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> Robert Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
>
> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on
> the ICW in between)
>
> 411 Walnut Street #11447
> 
>
> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
> 
>
> (443) 994-1802
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Stu via CnC-List]

How about 3/4 of a century + 1?

Stu

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

Wow, I think you win the prize~!

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rob Hamlin
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

 

I’m 36 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  57. 

  Therapy 

  C&C 29-2

  Solomons MD

   

  Sent from my iPhone





  On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:



What is the youngest age in this group and oldest 

I’m 40

 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the 
virus. I have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now. It 
will end. We can schedule then

  Stay safe 

  Jim Schwartz 

  SEA YA ! 

  38 landfall 

  Washington nc 

   

   

   

  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

   

   

   Original message 

  From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List  

  Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00) 

  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 

  Cc: Robert Boyer  

  Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19? 

   

  Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C 
Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from the 
relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United States and it 
is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite well in controlling 
the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 could mean much more to 
me than simply being sick for several weeks—it could be a death blow.

   

  Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and 
I will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that 
this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this 
list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get together 
(even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of catching 
COVID-19.

   

  So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should 
this year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it 
and where?

   

  Bob

   

  Robert Boyer
  s/v Rainy Days
  C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230

  (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on 
the ICW in between)

  411 Walnut Street #11447

  Green Cove Springs, FL 32043

  (443) 994-1802

   

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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

As I recall I was able to successfully eliminate the squeal by removing the
spacer plate in my 22ST.  I'll investigate again.

Josh

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 15:45 Andrew Means via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Josh I thought that was the issue as well (and the screws have definitely
> rubbed at some point in the past) but after adjusting the screws to make
> sure they weren't rubbing I still hear the squeak.
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:25 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I misspoke... The line lifter was the wrong term.  I meant the pressure
>> plate.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 15:17 Josh Muckley  wrote:
>>
>>> The screws that hold the spring tension on the line lifter are too tight
>>> and are rubbing on the bronze spindle below.  A series of small washers or
>>> grinding of the screws short will most likely fix the problem.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Josh Muckley
>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>> Solomons, MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 13:08 Andrew Means via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all -

 The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape,
 so last week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I
 was able to disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my
 satisfaction, however - when reassembling the first winch I realized that,
 while definitely smoother internal operations, it still squeaks!

 I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring
 (see manual here
 ).
 I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after
 tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to
 tap it with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer
 didn't help either).

 Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had
 this problem?

 Andrew
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Doug Robinson via CnC-List]

86

C&C 29 MKI Nemesis

Niagara on the Lake, ON

On 7/14/20 9:33 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote:

71

Sam Salter
C&C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta


On Jul 14, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
 wrote:


 57.
Therapy
C&C 29-2
Solomons MD

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:



What is the youngest age in this group and oldest
I’m 40

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with
the virus. I have not left the house since march, and not going
to gamble now. It will end. We can schedule then
Stay safe
Jim Schwartz
SEA YA !
38 landfall
Washington nc



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


 Original message 
From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
Cc: Robert Boyer mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com>>
Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?

Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020
Mid-Atlantic C&C Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September. 
We recently returned from the relative safety of the Bahamas to a
raging pandemic in the United States and it is far from being
over, even though Maryland has done quite well in controlling the
virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 could mean
much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it could
be a death blow.

Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming
rendezvous and I will not be attending one being held elsewhere. 
I strongly encourage that this year's rendezvous be cancelled but
that is up to everyone else on this list who lives in the
Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get together (even
with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of
catching COVID-19.

So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees,
should this year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is
willing to host it and where?

Bob

Robert Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
(Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas,
and on the ICW in between)
411 Walnut Street #11447


Green Cove Springs, FL 32043


(443) 994-1802

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Stus-List Youngest & Oldest

[Stu via CnC-List]

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

Wow, I think you win the prize~!

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hamlin 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rob Hamlin
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

 

I’m 36 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  57. 

  Therapy 

  C&C 29-2

  Solomons MD

   

  Sent from my iPhone





  On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:



What is the youngest age in this group and oldest 

I’m 40

 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the 
virus. I have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now. It 
will end. We can schedule then

  Stay safe 

  Jim Schwartz 

  SEA YA ! 

  38 landfall 

  Washington nc 

   

   

   

  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

   

   

   Original message 

  From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List  

  Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00) 

  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 

  Cc: Robert Boyer  

  Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19? 

   

  Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C 
Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from the 
relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United States and it 
is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite well in controlling 
the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 could mean much more to 
me than simply being sick for several weeks—it could be a death blow.

   

  Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and 
I will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that 
this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this 
list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get together 
(even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of catching 
COVID-19.

   

  So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should 
this year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it 
and where?

   

  Bob

   

  Robert Boyer
  s/v Rainy Days
  C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230

  (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on 
the ICW in between)

  411 Walnut Street #11447

  Green Cove Springs, FL 32043

  (443) 994-1802

   

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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

71

Sam Salter 
C&C 26  Liquorice 
Ghost Lake  Alberta 


On Jul 14, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
 wrote:

57. 
Therapy 
C&C 29-2
Solomons MD

Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> 
> What is the youngest age in this group and oldest 
> I’m 40
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the virus. 
>> I have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now. It will 
>> end. We can schedule then
>> Stay safe 
>> Jim Schwartz 
>> SEA YA ! 
>> 38 landfall 
>> Washington nc 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>> Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: Robert Boyer 
>> Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?
>> 
>> Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C 
>> Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from the 
>> relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United States and 
>> it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite well in 
>> controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 could 
>> mean much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it could be a 
>> death blow.
>> 
>> Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I 
>> will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that 
>> this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this 
>> list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get 
>> together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of 
>> catching COVID-19.
>> 
>> So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should this 
>> year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it and 
>> where?
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> Robert Boyer
>> s/v Rainy Days
>> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
>> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the 
>> ICW in between)
>> 411 Walnut Street #11447
>> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
>> (443) 994-1802
>> 
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> 
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Wow, I think you win the prize~!

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hamlin 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rob Hamlin
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

 

I’m 36 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
 wrote:

57. 

Therapy 

C&C 29-2

Solomons MD

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:



What is the youngest age in this group and oldest 

I’m 40

 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List  
wrote:

I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the virus. I 
have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now. It will end. 
We can schedule then

Stay safe 

Jim Schwartz 

SEA YA ! 

38 landfall 

Washington nc 

 

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

 Original message 

From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List  

Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 

Cc: Robert Boyer  

Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19? 

 

Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C 
Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from the 
relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United States and it 
is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite well in controlling 
the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 could mean much more to 
me than simply being sick for several weeks—it could be a death blow.

 

Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I will 
not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that this 
year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this list who 
lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get together (even 
with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of catching COVID-19.

 

So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should this 
year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it and 
where?

 

Bob

 

Robert Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230

(Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the ICW 
in between)

411 

  Walnut Street #11447

Green 

  Cove Springs, FL 32043

(443) 994-1802

 

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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

I'm almost 63. But I act 24. 😎Doug Mountjoysv Rebecca Leah C&C Landfall 39Port 
Orchard yacht club
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Rob Hamlin via CnC-List]

I’m 36 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 57. 
> Therapy 
> C&C 29-2
> Solomons MD
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> What is the youngest age in this group and oldest 
>> I’m 40
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the virus. 
>>> I have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now. It will 
>>> end. We can schedule then
>>> Stay safe 
>>> Jim Schwartz 
>>> SEA YA ! 
>>> 38 landfall 
>>> Washington nc 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>>> Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> Cc: Robert Boyer 
>>> Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?
>>> 
>>> Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C 
>>> Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from 
>>> the relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United 
>>> States and it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite 
>>> well in controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 
>>> could mean much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it 
>>> could be a death blow.
>>> 
>>> Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I 
>>> will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that 
>>> this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this 
>>> list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get 
>>> together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of 
>>> catching COVID-19.
>>> 
>>> So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should this 
>>> year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it and 
>>> where?
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> Robert Boyer
>>> s/v Rainy Days
>>> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
>>> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the 
>>> ICW in between)
>>> 411 Walnut Street #11447
>>> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
>>> (443) 994-1802
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Thomas Perison via CnC-List]

57. 
Therapy 
C&C 29-2
Solomons MD

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> What is the youngest age in this group and oldest 
> I’m 40
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the virus. 
>> I have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now. It will 
>> end. We can schedule then
>> Stay safe 
>> Jim Schwartz 
>> SEA YA ! 
>> 38 landfall 
>> Washington nc 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>> Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: Robert Boyer 
>> Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?
>> 
>> Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C 
>> Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from the 
>> relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United States and 
>> it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite well in 
>> controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 could 
>> mean much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it could be a 
>> death blow.
>> 
>> Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I 
>> will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that 
>> this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this 
>> list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get 
>> together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of 
>> catching COVID-19.
>> 
>> So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should this 
>> year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it and 
>> where?
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> Robert Boyer
>> s/v Rainy Days
>> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
>> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the 
>> ICW in between)
>> 411 Walnut Street #11447
>> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
>> (443) 994-1802
>> 
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Sent from my iPhone
You win!  

Dennis C. 

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 7:27 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> What is the youngest age in this group and oldest 
> I’m 40
> 
> 

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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

What is the youngest age in this group and oldest
I’m 40

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:20 PM detroito91 via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the
> virus. I have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now.
> It will end. We can schedule then
> Stay safe
> Jim Schwartz
> SEA YA !
> 38 landfall
> Washington nc
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
> Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Robert Boyer 
> Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?
>
> Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C
> Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from
> the relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United
> States and it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite
> well in controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19
> could mean much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it
> could be a death blow.
>
> Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I
> will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that
> this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this
> list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get
> together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of
> catching COVID-19.
>
> So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should
> this year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host
> it and where?
>
> Bob
>
> Robert Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on
> the ICW in between)
> 411 Walnut Street #11447
> 
> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
> 
> (443) 994-1802
>
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Stus-List Zoom C&C Rendezvous

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

I have a Zoom pro account that can host up to 100 
participants that we can use if you like.  The 
PNW event was cancelled too.  So, I would love to 
see us all get together...maybe from our boats even!


Tom B

At 04:42 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:43:24 -0400
From: Edd Schillay 
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Bob,

While I am not in the mid-Atlantic, I agree that 
any 2020 rendezvous should be cancelled.


I?m all for a Zoom-C&C Online Rendezvous. I?d 
say that we?d have to make sure that David Risch 
covers his webcam, but he probably won?t show anyway.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 





.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
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Re: Stus-List Zoom Rendezvous

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Stu, you shouldn’t need to purchase anything. We have a full-boat (pun...) 
version and can host a session. Others may have it too. 

Regards,
Dave
1982 37’

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 7:46 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have the zoom with unlimited zoom
> It a great idea when did you want to do it?
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:11 PM Stu via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> I think the idea of a pre-scheduled zoom rendezvous is great.  It is a 
>> chance to actually put faces on names and not have to worry about catching 
>> the virus or getting out of your pajamas to attend.
>>  
>> Zoom is relatively inexpensive.  You can get a free plan for 40 minutes – 
>> not time for much to happen.  The pricing plan is a little hard to 
>> understand (is it $20 or $2000).  I’ll see if I can get some clarification.
>>  
>> Anybody have other ideas of conference calling programs – Facebook Rooms, 
>> Skype, etc.  Ideas for hosting – meet and greet, specific topics from a 
>> knowledgeable person, or other ideas?
>>  
>> Let me know and I’ll see what I can put together.
>>  
>> Stu
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Re: Stus-List Zoom Rendezvous

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

I have the zoom with unlimited zoom
It a great idea when did you want to do it?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:11 PM Stu via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I think the idea of a pre-scheduled zoom rendezvous is great.  It is a
> chance to actually put faces on names and not have to worry about catching
> the virus or getting out of your pajamas to attend.
>
> Zoom is relatively inexpensive.  You can get a free plan for 40 minutes –
> not time for much to happen.  The pricing plan is a little hard to
> understand (is it $20 or $2000).  I’ll see if I can get some clarification.
>
> Anybody have other ideas of conference calling programs – Facebook Rooms,
> Skype, etc.  Ideas for hosting – meet and greet, specific topics from a
> knowledgeable person, or other ideas?
>
> Let me know and I’ll see what I can put together.
>
> Stu
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Personally I think that would be a fantastic idea.  I could volunteer to 
reprise a presentation I gave my local RSA about my decision and process to buy 
a C&C.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30 MK I #79
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Andrew Means via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> If the physical rendezvous is canceled, could this be an opportunity for a 
> world-wide (virtual) rendezvous? People could sign up to give scheduled 
> presentations/talks, we could have open video chat rooms for people to join, 
> etc.. It could end up being just as edifying (albeit different) an experience 
> and a way to bring the community together in a way that would never be 
> physically possible.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:36 PM Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C 
> Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from the 
> relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United States and 
> it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite well in 
> controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 could mean 
> much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it could be a death 
> blow.
> 
> Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I 
> will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that 
> this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this 
> list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get 
> together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of 
> catching COVID-19.
> 
> So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should this 
> year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it and 
> where?
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the 
> ICW in between)
> 411 Walnut Street #11447
> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
> (443) 994-1802
> 
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Re: Stus-List Zoom Rendezvous

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Stu,

It is $20 a month for a meeting that can accommodate up 100 participants for up 
to 24 h. You would have to make sure that you cancel before they charge you for 
the following month.

Google Meetings (what used to be Hangouts) should be available at no extra cost.

Marek


 Original message 
From: Stu via CnC-List 
Date: 2020-07-14 19:11 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Stu 
Subject: Stus-List Zoom Rendezvous

I think the idea of a pre-scheduled zoom rendezvous is great.  It is a chance 
to actually put faces on names and not have to worry about catching the virus 
or getting out of your pajamas to attend.

Zoom is relatively inexpensive.  You can get a free plan for 40 minutes – not 
time for much to happen.  The pricing plan is a little hard to understand (is 
it $20 or $2000).  I’ll see if I can get some clarification.

Anybody have other ideas of conference calling programs – Facebook Rooms, 
Skype, etc.  Ideas for hosting – meet and greet, specific topics from a 
knowledgeable person, or other ideas?

Let me know and I’ll see what I can put together.

Stu
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Stus-List Zoom Rendezvous

[Stu via CnC-List]

I think the idea of a pre-scheduled zoom rendezvous is great.  It is a chance 
to actually put faces on names and not have to worry about catching the virus 
or getting out of your pajamas to attend.

Zoom is relatively inexpensive.  You can get a free plan for 40 minutes – not 
time for much to happen.  The pricing plan is a little hard to understand (is 
it $20 or $2000).  I’ll see if I can get some clarification.

Anybody have other ideas of conference calling programs – Facebook Rooms, 
Skype, etc.  Ideas for hosting – meet and greet, specific topics from a 
knowledgeable person, or other ideas?

Let me know and I’ll see what I can put together.

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Re: Stus-List Jumping the start battery in ACR environment

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

A full and idle state of charge is indicated by a voltage of 12.7.
Anything higher is either an indication of a charge being applied or the
phenomenon referred to as surface charge.  Generally a "dead" battery will
read 10.5v or less.  You should typically avoid discharging below 11.6 for
the most number of years of service.  I don't know what voltage the Li-ion
battery packs read under no load but it has to be greater than 12.7v.
However, the no load voltage is irrelevant since it actually only
represents how much potential is present.  Once attached to a "dead"
battery the output of the jump pack will equal the terminal voltage of the
dead battery.  The terminal voltage will begin to rise as the starting
battery is charged if by some strange condition you were able to supply so
much more voltage than the battery could accept then the terminal voltage
would be higher than the state of charge and if it was enough higher could
theoretically reach the ACR voltage of 13.6.  This seems unlikely and would
absolutely necessitate and no load voltage much higher than 12.7.  Old
style jump packs with lead acid batteries or simply jumping a car with a
spare battery only has the potential to start at 12.7 on the full battery
~10.5 on the dead the potential will eventually equalize between the two
and assuming the same capacity you would end with 2 batteries at roughly
11.6 (I've over simplified it but for the purpose of discussion I think the
example works).

In short, I agree with the previous listers that getting the terminal
voltage to reach 13.6v and having the ACR engage would be unlikely at
best.  And that assumes that your ACR senses the start battery and not the
house batt.  If your alternator is applied to the house then there is no
question the ACR should sense the house.  However it *MIGHT* also sense the
start.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 17:27 Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Following suggestions on this list, I purchased a NOCO Lithium battery
> 'jump starter' to have on board if/when I might need to jump my starting
> battery. Cheaper and lighter than another 12 volt battery and having done
> this many times in various cars I have owned over the years, it is no big
> deal to jump a dead battery.
>
> However, my boat has an ACR which, as I understand it, works to keep the
> batteries charge states more or less equal while they are being charged,
> either from shore power or the alternator. When no external charge is
> supplied,  it isolates the battery banks. So if it works as it should, and
> my house batteries are drained accidently or just fail while at anchor
> (say), I should be able to use the start battery to start the engine.  In
> fact, my battery switch has 2 positions (besides OFF), 1 (Normal) and
> Combine Batteries. Unless both battery banks fail at the same time, I think
> I would always have on board power to start the engine. In the very
> unlikely event that I lose both battery banks, my NOCO might save the day.
>
> So here is the question in this unlikely scenario:
>
> When I jump start the engine, do I hook up the NOCO jump starting battery
> to the 'start battery' in the boat? If the ACR has not failed, would it not
> sense the increased charge state of the boat start battery and immediately
> share the NOCO jump star power with the house batteries? If these are also
> depleted, my NOCO  jump starter might not have enough power to start the
> engine, since the ACR would send a lot of this power to the house
> batteries.
>
> If the above is not 'over thought', it suggests that I should isolate the
> house batteries from the ACR before I try to jump the boat start battery
> with the NOCO jump starter.
>
> Thoughts from the list would be appreciated!
>
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bob,

While I am not in the mid-Atlantic, I agree that any 2020 rendezvous should be 
cancelled. 

I’m all for a Zoom-C&C Online Rendezvous. I’d say that we’d have to make sure 
that David Risch covers his webcam, but he probably won’t show anyway. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

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On Jul 14, 2020, at 5:19 PM, detroito91 via CnC-List  
wrote:

I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the virus. I 
have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now. It will end. 
We can schedule then
Stay safe 
Jim Schwartz 
SEA YA ! 
38 landfall 
Washington nc 



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 Original message 
From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
Date: 7/14/20 3:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Robert Boyer 
Subject: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?

Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C 
Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from the 
relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United States and it 
is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite well in controlling 
the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 could mean much more to 
me than simply being sick for several weeks—it could be a death blow.

Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I will 
not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that this 
year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this list who 
lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get together (even 
with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of catching COVID-19.

So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should this 
year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it and 
where?

Bob

Robert Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
(Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the ICW 
in between)
411 Walnut Street #11447
Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
(443) 994-1802

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Re: Stus-List Puspit Gate Options

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Andrew,

Darn good catch.  I am on Touche' right now and just tried to put a pelican
hook through a stanchion cap.  It fit up to the hinge pin.  :)  Then it
sits cocked at an angle.  No go for that plan.

I suspect the Seadog caps would dolike wise.

Dennis C.

>
>
>
> Dennis regarding the SD270500 stanchion eyes, I'm concerned that the
> eyelets might not be large enough to accommodate a traditional pelican hook
> - do you know offhand if they are? I suppose I could probably check on my
> boat next time I'm there : )
>
>
>
> Thanks so much to everyone for all the insight and advice so far!
>
>
>
> Andrew
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Re: Stus-List Jumping the start battery in ACR environment

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

If your boat is wired correctly, your ACR should allow charging the start 
battery when the house side has high enough voltage (not the other way round). 
So, the presence of higher voltage on the start side, should not open the ACR.

Btw. If you connect on the house side, your portable battery will be charging 
your (large, and discharged) house bank, before being able to open the ACR to 
allow the charge to the start battery and the starter.

Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa On


 Original message 
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
Date: 2020-07-14 17:27 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List Jumping the start battery in ACR environment

Following suggestions on this list, I purchased a NOCO Lithium battery 'jump 
starter' to have on board if/when I might need to jump my starting battery. 
Cheaper and lighter than another 12 volt battery and having done this many 
times in various cars I have owned over the years, it is no big deal to jump a 
dead battery.

However, my boat has an ACR which, as I understand it, works to keep the 
batteries charge states more or less equal while they are being charged, either 
from shore power or the alternator. When no external charge is supplied,  it 
isolates the battery banks. So if it works as it should, and my house batteries 
are drained accidently or just fail while at anchor (say), I should be able to 
use the start battery to start the engine.  In fact, my battery switch has 2 
positions (besides OFF), 1 (Normal) and Combine Batteries. Unless both battery 
banks fail at the same time, I think I would always have on board power to 
start the engine. In the very unlikely event that I lose both battery banks, my 
NOCO might save the day.

So here is the question in this unlikely scenario:

When I jump start the engine, do I hook up the NOCO jump starting battery to 
the 'start battery' in the boat? If the ACR has not failed, would it not sense 
the increased charge state of the boat start battery and immediately share the 
NOCO jump star power with the house batteries? If these are also depleted, my 
NOCO  jump starter might not have enough power to start the engine, since the 
ACR would send a lot of this power to the house batteries.

If the above is not 'over thought', it suggests that I should isolate the house 
batteries from the ACR before I try to jump the boat start battery with the 
NOCO jump starter.

Thoughts from the list would be appreciated!


Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb




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Re: Stus-List Stanchion size

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1 inch on Touché 

Dennis C. 

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Re: Stus-List Jumping the start battery in ACR environment

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

A friend had to jump start his grand banks a couple springs ago, there were as 
I recall four 6 volt Golf cart batteries.  I was a little worried about just 
your question, but it just cranked right up, cold. 

So, probably not a concern.

 

BTW, I discovered that you don’t want to let those go dead too many times. I 
left my  GB70 NOCO on the boat a couple winters, and after this last one I 
could not resuscitate it.  Made me very sad, and with all the extras on them, 
that you just can’t put a new LiPo into it, got to buy another.

I will be more careful next time.

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie 
Nelson via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 5:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List Jumping the start battery in ACR environment

 

Following suggestions on this list, I purchased a NOCO Lithium battery 'jump 
starter' to have on board if/when I might need to jump my starting battery. 
Cheaper and lighter than another 12 volt battery and having done this many 
times in various cars I have owned over the years, it is no big deal to jump a 
dead battery.

 

However, my boat has an ACR which, as I understand it, works to keep the 
batteries charge states more or less equal while they are being charged, either 
from shore power or the alternator. When no external charge is supplied,  it 
isolates the battery banks. So if it works as it should, and my house batteries 
are drained accidently or just fail while at anchor (say), I should be able to 
use the start battery to start the engine.  In fact, my battery switch has 2 
positions (besides OFF), 1 (Normal) and Combine Batteries. Unless both battery 
banks fail at the same time, I think I would always have on board power to 
start the engine. In the very unlikely event that I lose both battery banks, my 
NOCO might save the day.

 

So here is the question in this unlikely scenario:

 

When I jump start the engine, do I hook up the NOCO jump starting battery to 
the 'start battery' in the boat? If the ACR has not failed, would it not sense 
the increased charge state of the boat start battery and immediately share the 
NOCO jump star power with the house batteries? If these are also depleted, my 
NOCO  jump starter might not have enough power to start the engine, since the 
ACR would send a lot of this power to the house batteries. 

 

If the above is not 'over thought', it suggests that I should isolate the house 
batteries from the ACR before I try to jump the boat start battery with the 
NOCO jump starter.

 

Thoughts from the list would be appreciated!

 

 

Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb

 

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Jumping the start battery in ACR environment

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

Hi Charlie

The ACR activates on voltage, so unless your jump pack is higher than 
13v it won't combine the banks.  I seriously doubt it, but you could 
test it: with charging sources off and the switch in the "normal" 
position, verify that the ACR isn't active (there is an output on it 
that you can connect to an indicator LED, check for voltage there, no 
volts = inactive).  Hook the jump pack to the start battery, wait a few 
minutes, and re-check the output for the LED.


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2020-07-14 6:26 p.m., Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote:
Following suggestions on this list, I purchased a NOCO Lithium battery 
'jump starter' to have on board if/when I might need to jump my 
starting battery. Cheaper and lighter than another 12 volt battery and 
having done this many times in various cars I have owned over the 
years, it is no big deal to jump a dead battery.


However, my boat has an ACR which, as I understand it, works to keep 
the batteries charge states more or less equal while they are being 
charged, either from shore power or the alternator. When no external 
charge is supplied,  it isolates the battery banks. So if it works as 
it should, and my house batteries are drained accidently or just fail 
while at anchor (say), I should be able to use the start battery to 
start the engine.  In fact, my battery switch has 2 positions (besides 
OFF), 1 (Normal) and Combine Batteries. Unless both battery banks fail 
at the same time, I think I would always have on board power to start 
the engine. In the very unlikely event that I lose both battery banks, 
my NOCO might save the day.


So here is the question in this unlikely scenario:

When I jump start the engine, do I hook up the NOCO jump starting 
battery to the 'start battery' in the boat? If the ACR has not failed, 
would it not sense the increased charge state of the boat start 
battery and immediately share the NOCO jump star power with the house 
batteries? If these are also depleted, my NOCO  jump starter might not 
have enough power to start the engine, since the ACR would send a lot 
of this power to the house batteries.


If the above is not 'over thought', it suggests that I should isolate 
the house batteries from the ACR before I try to jump the boat start 
battery with the NOCO jump starter.


Thoughts from the list would be appreciated!


Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb





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Stus-List Jumping the start battery in ACR environment

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

Following suggestions on this list, I purchased a NOCO Lithium battery 'jump 
starter' to have on board if/when I might need to jump my starting battery. 
Cheaper and lighter than another 12 volt battery and having done this many 
times in various cars I have owned over the years, it is no big deal to jump a 
dead battery.
However, my boat has an ACR which, as I understand it, works to keep the 
batteries charge states more or less equal while they are being charged, either 
from shore power or the alternator. When no external charge is supplied,  it 
isolates the battery banks. So if it works as it should, and my house batteries 
are drained accidently or just fail while at anchor (say), I should be able to 
use the start battery to start the engine.  In fact, my battery switch has 2 
positions (besides OFF), 1 (Normal) and Combine Batteries. Unless both battery 
banks fail at the same time, I think I would always have on board power to 
start the engine. In the very unlikely event that I lose both battery banks, my 
NOCO might save the day.
So here is the question in this unlikely scenario:
When I jump start the engine, do I hook up the NOCO jump starting battery to 
the 'start battery' in the boat? If the ACR has not failed, would it not sense 
the increased charge state of the boat start battery and immediately share the 
NOCO jump star power with the house batteries? If these are also depleted, my 
NOCO  jump starter might not have enough power to start the engine, since the 
ACR would send a lot of this power to the house batteries. 
If the above is not 'over thought', it suggests that I should isolate the house 
batteries from the ACR before I try to jump the boat start battery with the 
NOCO jump starter.
Thoughts from the list would be appreciated!

Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb



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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVI

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

I totally agree.  Now is not the time at our ages to gamble with the virus. I 
have not left the house since march, and not going to gamble now. It will end. 
We can schedule thenStay safe Jim Schwartz SEA YA ! 38 landfall Washington nc 
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/14/20  3:36 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Robert Boyer  Subject: 
Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19? Last year, I volunteered 
to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in 
late-September.  We recently returned from the relative safety of the Bahamas 
to a raging pandemic in the United States and it is far from being over, even 
though Maryland has done quite well in controlling the virus.  I am in my 
seventies and catching COVID-19 could mean much more to me than simply being 
sick for several weeks—it could be a death blow.Consequently, I am withdrawing 
as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I will not be attending one being 
held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that this year's rendezvous be cancelled 
but that is up to everyone else on this list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic 
area.  In my opinion, a weekend get together (even with friendly C&C owners) is 
simply not worth the risk of catching COVID-19.So, I am throwing out the 
question to other possible attendees, should this year’s rendezvous be 
cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it and where?Bob
Robert Boyers/v Rainy DaysC&C Landfall 38, Hull #230(Spending hurricane season 
in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the ICW in between)411 Walnut 
Street #11447Green Cove Springs, FL 32043(443) 994-1802

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Re: Stus-List 2020 Rendezvous

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I sadly concur. The way things are going I am giving 50% odds we will be 
shut down again.


Joe

Coquina

On 7/14/2020 4:47 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List wrote:

Bob, I think cancelling the 2020 Mid Atlantic rendezvous is the right thing to 
do. Better now that at the last minute. It’s just not worth the risk. We attend 
from Ontario and I doubt the border will even be open by October. We are 
definitely going to miss it and the great friends we have made but the world 
has changed and we need to do what is necessary. Maybe plan to host in 
Baltimore in 2021? I am sure everyone gets it and everyone should understand 
your position. We are looking forward to the next rendezvous whenever and 
wherever it is!! Stay healthy.
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
1989 37+
Midland On.

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Stus-List 2020 Rendezvous

[Len Mitchell via CnC-List]

Bob, I think cancelling the 2020 Mid Atlantic rendezvous is the right thing to 
do. Better now that at the last minute. It’s just not worth the risk. We attend 
from Ontario and I doubt the border will even be open by October. We are 
definitely going to miss it and the great friends we have made but the world 
has changed and we need to do what is necessary. Maybe plan to host in 
Baltimore in 2021? I am sure everyone gets it and everyone should understand 
your position. We are looking forward to the next rendezvous whenever and 
wherever it is!! Stay healthy. 
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
1989 37+
Midland On. 

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Re: Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

If the physical rendezvous is canceled, could this be an opportunity for a
world-wide (virtual) rendezvous? People could sign up to give scheduled
presentations/talks, we could have open video chat rooms for people to
join, etc.. It could end up being just as edifying (albeit different) an
experience and a way to bring the community together in a way that would
never be physically possible.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:36 PM Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C
> Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from
> the relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United
> States and it is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite
> well in controlling the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19
> could mean much more to me than simply being sick for several weeks—it
> could be a death blow.
>
> Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I
> will not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that
> this year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this
> list who lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get
> together (even with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of
> catching COVID-19.
>
> So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should
> this year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host
> it and where?
>
> Bob
>
> Robert Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
> (Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on
> the ICW in between)
> 411 Walnut Street #11447
> Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
> (443) 994-1802
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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

Josh I thought that was the issue as well (and the screws have definitely
rubbed at some point in the past) but after adjusting the screws to make
sure they weren't rubbing I still hear the squeak.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:25 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I misspoke... The line lifter was the wrong term.  I meant the pressure
> plate.
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 15:17 Josh Muckley  wrote:
>
>> The screws that hold the spring tension on the line lifter are too tight
>> and are rubbing on the bronze spindle below.  A series of small washers or
>> grinding of the screws short will most likely fix the problem.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 13:08 Andrew Means via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all -
>>>
>>> The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so
>>> last week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was
>>> able to disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction,
>>> however - when reassembling the first winch I realized that, while
>>> definitely smoother internal operations, it still squeaks!
>>>
>>> I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see
>>> manual here
>>> ).
>>> I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after
>>> tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to
>>> tap it with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer
>>> didn't help either).
>>>
>>> Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this
>>> problem?
>>>
>>> Andrew
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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Conversion chart:

https://l-36.com/compare.php

Joel

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:36 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I seem to remember reading the Barient size meant hundreds of pounds of
> design load.  A "27" is designed for 2700 pounds of load.  A "28" is
> designed for 2800 pounds of load.
>
> On 07/14/2020 2:49 PM Andrew Means via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
> I think the Barient 27s are measured somehow differently than Lewmar;
> they're roughly equivalent to a Lewmar 40, size-wise. What size boat do you
> have? Anybody have a good size comparison tool across winch brands?
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:16 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Sadly, it has been too long for me to remember what we did.  I serviced
> all the winches on my boat several years ago – okay, everybody, you can
> chastise me now.  I chuckled when I read that your boat uses size 27 for
> your primaries.  I use mine for my spin pole topping lift.
>
>
>
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> Means via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:05 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Andrew Means 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!
>
>
>
> Thanks Matt! I'll try some penetrating oil and see where it gets me. When
> you got the lifter arm off were you able to adjust the height so it no
> longer rubbed against the clamp ring? Or were you able to lubricate it a
> bit so it didn't squeak?
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Yes and yes.  I eventually got it off, but I can’t recall now how I did it
> (it was a while ago).  Try using some penetrating oil and let it sit before
> hitting it again.  I’ll take a look at mine and see if I can recall
> anything else I may have done.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Andrew
> Means via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:07 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Andrew Means 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!
>
>
>
> Hi all -
>
>
>
> The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so
> last week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was
> able to disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction,
> however - when reassembling the first winch I realized that, while
> definitely smoother internal operations, it still squeaks!
>
>
>
> I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see
> manual here
> ).
> I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after
> tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to
> tap it with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer
> didn't help either).
>
>
>
> Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this
> problem?
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
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Stus-List 2020 C&C Rendezvous: Cancel due to COVID-19?

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Last year, I volunteered to host of the upcoming 2020 Mid-Atlantic C&C 
Rendezvous in Baltimore MD in late-September.  We recently returned from the 
relative safety of the Bahamas to a raging pandemic in the United States and it 
is far from being over, even though Maryland has done quite well in controlling 
the virus.  I am in my seventies and catching COVID-19 could mean much more to 
me than simply being sick for several weeks—it could be a death blow.

Consequently, I am withdrawing as a host for the upcoming rendezvous and I will 
not be attending one being held elsewhere.  I strongly encourage that this 
year's rendezvous be cancelled but that is up to everyone else on this list who 
lives in the Mid-Atlantic area.  In my opinion, a weekend get together (even 
with friendly C&C owners) is simply not worth the risk of catching COVID-19.

So, I am throwing out the question to other possible attendees, should this 
year’s rendezvous be cancelled?  And, if not, who is willing to host it and 
where?

Bob

Robert Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
(Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the ICW 
in between)
411 Walnut Street #11447
Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

I seem to remember reading the Barient size meant hundreds of pounds of design 
load.  A "27" is designed for 2700 pounds of load.  A "28" is designed for 2800 
pounds of load.   

> On 07/14/2020 2:49 PM Andrew Means via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think the Barient 27s are measured somehow differently than Lewmar; 
> they're roughly equivalent to a Lewmar 40, size-wise. What size boat do you 
> have? Anybody have a good size comparison tool across winch brands?
> 
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:16 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > Sadly, it has been too long for me to remember what we did.  I 
> > serviced all the winches on my boat several years ago – okay, everybody, 
> > you can chastise me now.  I chuckled when I read that your boat uses size 
> > 27 for your primaries.  I use mine for my spin pole topping lift.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > On Behalf Of Andrew Means via 
> > CnC-List
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:05 PM
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: Andrew Means  > mailto:andrew.cnc...@gmail.com >
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks Matt! I'll try some penetrating oil and see where it gets 
> > me. When you got the lifter arm off were you able to adjust the height so 
> > it no longer rubbed against the clamp ring? Or were you able to lubricate 
> > it a bit so it didn't squeak?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Andrew
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
> > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > Yes and yes.  I eventually got it off, but I can’t recall now 
> > > how I did it (it was a while ago).  Try using some penetrating oil and 
> > > let it sit before hitting it again.  I’ll take a look at mine and see if 
> > > I can recall anything else I may have done.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > From: CnC-List  > > mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > On Behalf Of Andrew Means via 
> > > CnC-List
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:07 PM
> > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > > Cc: Andrew Means  > > mailto:andrew.cnc...@gmail.com >
> > > Subject: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Hi all - 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in 
> > > sorry shape, so last week I decided to service them. After a rather 
> > > protracted battle I was able to disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of 
> > > them to my satisfaction, however - when reassembling the first winch I 
> > > realized that, while definitely smoother internal operations, it still 
> > > squeaks!
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the 
> > > clamp ring (see manual here 
> > > http://svsoggypaws.com/files/Winches/Barient%2027%20ST%20Winch%20Service%20Manual.pdf
> > >  ). I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but 
> > > after tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual 
> > > says to tap it with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft 
> > > hammer didn't help either).
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody 
> > > else had this problem?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Andrew
> > > 
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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

The screws that hold the spring tension on the line lifter are too tight
and are rubbing on the bronze spindle below.  A series of small washers or
grinding of the screws short will most likely fix the problem.

All the best,
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 13:08 Andrew Means via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hi all -
>
> The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so
> last week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was
> able to disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction,
> however - when reassembling the first winch I realized that, while
> definitely smoother internal operations, it still squeaks!
>
> I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see
> manual here
> ).
> I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after
> tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to
> tap it with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer
> didn't help either).
>
> Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this
> problem?
>
> Andrew
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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I misspoke... The line lifter was the wrong term.  I meant the pressure
plate.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 15:17 Josh Muckley  wrote:

> The screws that hold the spring tension on the line lifter are too tight
> and are rubbing on the bronze spindle below.  A series of small washers or
> grinding of the screws short will most likely fix the problem.
>
> All the best,
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 13:08 Andrew Means via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all -
>>
>> The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so
>> last week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was
>> able to disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction,
>> however - when reassembling the first winch I realized that, while
>> definitely smoother internal operations, it still squeaks!
>>
>> I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see
>> manual here
>> ).
>> I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after
>> tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to
>> tap it with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer
>> didn't help either).
>>
>> Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this
>> problem?
>>
>> Andrew
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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

https://l-36.com/compare.php

for all your winch comparison needs...  :-)

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2020-07-14 3:49 p.m., Andrew Means via CnC-List wrote:
I think the Barient 27s are measured somehow differently than Lewmar; 
they're roughly equivalent to a Lewmar 40, size-wise. What size boat 
do you have? Anybody have a good size comparison tool across winch brands?


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:16 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Sadly, it has been too long for me to remember what we did.  I
serviced all the winches on my boat several years ago – okay,
everybody, you can chastise me now.  I chuckled when I read that
your boat uses size 27 for your primaries.  I use mine for my spin
pole topping lift.

*From:* CnC-List mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> *On Behalf Of *Andrew
Means via CnC-List
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:05 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
*Cc:* Andrew Means mailto:andrew.cnc...@gmail.com>>
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

Thanks Matt! I'll try some penetrating oil and see where it gets
me. When you got the lifter arm off were you able to adjust the
height so it no longer rubbed against the clamp ring? Or were you
able to lubricate it a bit so it didn't squeak?

Andrew

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Yes and yes.  I eventually got it off, but I can’t recall now
how I did it (it was a while ago).  Try using some penetrating
oil and let it sit before hitting it again.  I’ll take a look
at mine and see if I can recall anything else I may have done.

*From:* CnC-List mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> *On Behalf Of *Andrew
Means via CnC-List
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:07 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
*Cc:* Andrew Means mailto:andrew.cnc...@gmail.com>>
*Subject:* Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

Hi all -

The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry
shape, so last week I decided to service them. After a rather
protracted battle I was able to disassemble and
clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction, however -
when reassembling the first winch I realized that, while
definitely smoother internal operations, it still squeaks!

I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp
ring (see manual here

).
I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally,
but after tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it
(the manual says to tap it with a soft hammer - hitting it
rather hard with a soft hammer didn't help either).

Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody
else had this problem?

Andrew

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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

My 27s are original Barient.

 

My boat is a 1976 42 Custom (only six made, mine being the last one).  I raced 
against it when I was kid.  The original Baltic 42 was a sistership.  
Impressive looking boat.

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Andrew Means via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:49 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Means 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

 

I think the Barient 27s are measured somehow differently than Lewmar; they're 
roughly equivalent to a Lewmar 40, size-wise. What size boat do you have? 
Anybody have a good size comparison tool across winch brands?

 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:16 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Sadly, it has been too long for me to remember what we did.  I serviced all the 
winches on my boat several years ago – okay, everybody, you can chastise me 
now.  I chuckled when I read that your boat uses size 27 for your primaries.  I 
use mine for my spin pole topping lift.

 

From: CnC-List mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> > On Behalf Of Andrew Means via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Andrew Means mailto:andrew.cnc...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

 

Thanks Matt! I'll try some penetrating oil and see where it gets me. When you 
got the lifter arm off were you able to adjust the height so it no longer 
rubbed against the clamp ring? Or were you able to lubricate it a bit so it 
didn't squeak?

 

Andrew

 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Yes and yes.  I eventually got it off, but I can’t recall now how I did it (it 
was a while ago).  Try using some penetrating oil and let it sit before hitting 
it again.  I’ll take a look at mine and see if I can recall anything else I may 
have done.

 

From: CnC-List mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> > On Behalf Of Andrew Means via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Andrew Means mailto:andrew.cnc...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

 

Hi all - 

 

The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so last 
week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was able to 
disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction, however - when 
reassembling the first winch I realized that, while definitely smoother 
internal operations, it still squeaks!

 

I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see manual 
here 

 ). I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after 
tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to tap it 
with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer didn't help 
either).

 

Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this 
problem?

 

Andrew

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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

I think the Barient 27s are measured somehow differently than Lewmar;
they're roughly equivalent to a Lewmar 40, size-wise. What size boat do you
have? Anybody have a good size comparison tool across winch brands?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:16 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sadly, it has been too long for me to remember what we did.  I serviced
> all the winches on my boat several years ago – okay, everybody, you can
> chastise me now.  I chuckled when I read that your boat uses size 27 for
> your primaries.  I use mine for my spin pole topping lift.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Andrew
> Means via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:05 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Andrew Means 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!
>
>
>
> Thanks Matt! I'll try some penetrating oil and see where it gets me. When
> you got the lifter arm off were you able to adjust the height so it no
> longer rubbed against the clamp ring? Or were you able to lubricate it a
> bit so it didn't squeak?
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Yes and yes.  I eventually got it off, but I can’t recall now how I did it
> (it was a while ago).  Try using some penetrating oil and let it sit before
> hitting it again.  I’ll take a look at mine and see if I can recall
> anything else I may have done.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Andrew
> Means via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:07 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Andrew Means 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!
>
>
>
> Hi all -
>
>
>
> The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so
> last week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was
> able to disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction,
> however - when reassembling the first winch I realized that, while
> definitely smoother internal operations, it still squeaks!
>
>
>
> I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see
> manual here
> ).
> I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after
> tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to
> tap it with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer
> didn't help either).
>
>
>
> Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this
> problem?
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

Sadly, it has been too long for me to remember what we did.  I serviced all the 
winches on my boat several years ago – okay, everybody, you can chastise me 
now.  I chuckled when I read that your boat uses size 27 for your primaries.  I 
use mine for my spin pole topping lift.

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Andrew Means via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Means 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

 

Thanks Matt! I'll try some penetrating oil and see where it gets me. When you 
got the lifter arm off were you able to adjust the height so it no longer 
rubbed against the clamp ring? Or were you able to lubricate it a bit so it 
didn't squeak?

 

Andrew

 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Yes and yes.  I eventually got it off, but I can’t recall now how I did it (it 
was a while ago).  Try using some penetrating oil and let it sit before hitting 
it again.  I’ll take a look at mine and see if I can recall anything else I may 
have done.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Andrew Means mailto:andrew.cnc...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

 

Hi all - 

 

The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so last 
week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was able to 
disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction, however - when 
reassembling the first winch I realized that, while definitely smoother 
internal operations, it still squeaks!

 

I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see manual 
here 

 ). I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after 
tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to tap it 
with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer didn't help 
either).

 

Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this 
problem?

 

Andrew

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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

Thanks Matt! I'll try some penetrating oil and see where it gets me. When
you got the lifter arm off were you able to adjust the height so it no
longer rubbed against the clamp ring? Or were you able to lubricate it a
bit so it didn't squeak?

Andrew

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Yes and yes.  I eventually got it off, but I can’t recall now how I did it
> (it was a while ago).  Try using some penetrating oil and let it sit before
> hitting it again.  I’ll take a look at mine and see if I can recall
> anything else I may have done.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Andrew
> Means via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:07 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Andrew Means 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!
>
>
>
> Hi all -
>
>
>
> The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so
> last week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was
> able to disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction,
> however - when reassembling the first winch I realized that, while
> definitely smoother internal operations, it still squeaks!
>
>
>
> I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see
> manual here
> ).
> I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after
> tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to
> tap it with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer
> didn't help either).
>
>
>
> Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this
> problem?
>
>
>
> Andrew
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Re: Stus-List Puspit Gate Options

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

I use Rigging Only (in MA) for lifelines, sheets, halyards, and the like.  They 
will know what size you need for the pelican hook.

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Andrew Means via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:40 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Means 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Puspit Gate Options

 

Dennis regarding the SD270500 stanchion eyes, I'm concerned that the eyelets 
might not be large enough to accommodate a traditional pelican hook - do you 
know offhand if they are? I suppose I could probably check on my boat next time 
I'm there : )

 

Thanks so much to everyone for all the insight and advice so far!

 

Andrew

 

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:53 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Andrew,

 

Cut off the horizontal tube where you want and install Sea Dog SD270500 
stanchion eyes in the tube.  Secure them with a machine screw.  They look like 
the cap on the picture you linked to.  From there, you can build a wire with 
pelican hooks on each end.  Done.

 

If you want to save a few bucks, swage a thimble eye on one end instead of a 
pelican hook.

 

-- 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:35 PM Andrew Means via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hi all - our C&C 34 has a bit of a hurry rigged pushpit gate to accommodate our 
swim ladder. The gate is constantly coming undone and is a liability.

 

Here are some photos:

Gate 

 

Hinge 

 

Latch? 

 

 

The clumsily attached hinge and “latch” that isn’t really a latch make me think 
it was added with the stern ladder. I want to replace it with something like a 
wire gate, but I can't find the right fittings.

 

This photo 

  for a reference of what I was thinking for the bar ends (which I would then 
attach a traditional wire gate to) but I wanted to get other folks’ opinions 
and see how they did it. How have other folks solved this issue?

 

Andrew

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Re: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

Yes and yes.  I eventually got it off, but I can’t recall now how I did it (it 
was a while ago).  Try using some penetrating oil and let it sit before hitting 
it again.  I’ll take a look at mine and see if I can recall anything else I may 
have done.

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Andrew Means via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Means 
Subject: Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

 

Hi all - 

 

The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so last 
week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was able to 
disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction, however - when 
reassembling the first winch I realized that, while definitely smoother 
internal operations, it still squeaks!

 

I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see manual 
here 

 ). I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after 
tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to tap it 
with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer didn't help 
either).

 

Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this 
problem?

 

Andrew

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Stus-List Barient 27 winch servicing - still squeaks!

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

Hi all -

The two Barient 27 primary winches on the Safari were in sorry shape, so
last week I decided to service them. After a rather protracted battle I was
able to disassemble and clean/oil/grease one of them to my satisfaction,
however - when reassembling the first winch I realized that, while
definitely smoother internal operations, it still squeaks!

I think I've traced it to the line lifter rubbing on the clamp ring (see
manual here
).
I didn't think I needed to remove the line lifter originally, but after
tracing the squeak there I wasn't able to unscrew it (the manual says to
tap it with a soft hammer - hitting it rather hard with a soft hammer
didn't help either).

Does anyone else have these winches on their boat? Anybody else had this
problem?

Andrew
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Re: Stus-List Puspit Gate Options

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

If I wanted to keep the rail, would something like this possibly work?
https://imall.com/product/316-Marine-Stainless-Steel-1-Boat-Rail-Fittings-Folding-Swivel-Tube-Pipe-Connector-Joint-Pole-Railing-Mast-Canopy/Sports-Entertainment-Water-Rowing-Boats/aliexpress.com/32845168779/144-27264739/en

I would need to find a latch, but I can't seem to find anything that looks
like a latch...

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 8:07 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Yep.  Agree.  Leave 2-4 inches of tube on each side.  In my original
> response I said drill and tap for a machine screw to secure the stanchion
> eye caps.  I'd install it on the underside of the tube and use threadlocker.
>
> Length of the wire gate would still be much shorter than the spans between
> lifelines.
>
>   --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:59 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> So, Dennis, you think it will work if he removes more of the upper tube
>> (almost back to the integral stern pulpit upright stanchions).  That’s a
>> long wire gate, but that would address the issue I raised.  I would also
>> suggest through-bolting the end caps holding the wire gate ends instead of
>> relying on the normal allen screw tighteners.
>>
>>
>>
>> Complicating matters, I saw in one of the photos the port upright
>> stanchion of the stern pulpit, but I did not see the starboard one.  As I
>> recall, the photo shows a portion of a Lifesling cover in this area.  Those
>> covers attach to the pulpit’s upper tube with Velcro straps, so he’ll
>> either need to leave enough upper tube (likely more than two inches) or
>> change the Lifesling storage location.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are several ways to skin the cat -- just be safe.  If a lot of
>> upper tube is left, rest assured someone will grab it for support.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Dennis
>> C. via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 3:27 PM
>> *To:* CnClist 
>> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Puspit Gate Options
>>
>>
>>
>> :o.  What?  I am absolutely gobsmacked that someone would not agree with
>> me 100%!  :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Seriously, Matt, good points.  I visualized cutting the upper tube close
>> to the vertical support.  Like maybe 2" out.  That would leave a rather
>> long wire gate but would minimize the opportunity for someone to bend the
>> tube.  Wire gates are fairly common.  The wire would run through the ladder
>> to secure it.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I can't disagree with your suggestion to contact Whitewater
>> marine.  I used them a few times and have been totally satisfied.
>>
>>
>>
>>   --
>>
>> Dennis C.
>>
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Puspit Gate Options

[Andrew Means via CnC-List]

Dennis regarding the SD270500 stanchion eyes, I'm concerned that the
eyelets might not be large enough to accommodate a traditional pelican hook
- do you know offhand if they are? I suppose I could probably check on my
boat next time I'm there : )

Thanks so much to everyone for all the insight and advice so far!

Andrew

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:53 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> Cut off the horizontal tube where you want and install Sea Dog SD270500
> stanchion eyes in the tube.  Secure them with a machine screw.  They look
> like the cap on the picture you linked to.  From there, you can build a
> wire with pelican hooks on each end.  Done.
>
> If you want to save a few bucks, swage a thimble eye on one end instead of
> a pelican hook.
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:35 PM Andrew Means via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all - our C&C 34 has a bit of a hurry rigged pushpit gate to
>> accommodate our swim ladder. The gate is constantly coming undone and is a
>> liability.
>>
>> Here are some photos:
>> Gate
>> 
>> Hinge
>> 
>> Latch?
>> 
>>
>> The clumsily attached hinge and “latch” that isn’t really a latch make me
>> think it was added with the stern ladder. I want to replace it with
>> something like a wire gate, but I can't find the right fittings.
>>
>> This photo
>> 
>> for a reference of what I was thinking for the bar ends (which I would then
>> attach a traditional wire gate to) but I wanted to get other folks’
>> opinions and see how they did it. How have other folks solved this issue?
>>
>> Andrew
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Re: Stus-List Stanchion size

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Sorry,  a 35 Mk1

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A Mk 1 what?

1 inch on a 35-3.

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On 2020-07-14 11:28 a.m., Glen Eddie via CnC-List wrote:
Does anyone know the stanchion diameter for the C&C Mk 1.  I need to get some 
replacement eyes.  It is either 7/8 or 1inch but I am not at my boat to measure.


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A Mk 1 what?

1 inch on a 35-3.

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Does anyone know the stanchion diameter for the C&C Mk 1.  I need to 
get some replacement eyes.  It is either 7/8 or 1inch but I am not at 
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Stus-List Stanchion size

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Does anyone know the stanchion diameter for the C&C Mk 1.  I need to get some 
replacement eyes.  It is either 7/8 or 1inch but I am not at my boat to measure.


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