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Lorne Serpa
C 30MKII 1988
Friendship,  MD
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Re: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I also covered the ac vent hose with a roll of stick on duct insulation
tape.  Made a big difference as the hose puts out a lot of heat.  I put
insulation in the roof vents to keep sun out and window tint in the hatch
covers also.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:14 PM, detroito91 via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Yes..same situation here in North carolina.  Went to Costco and bought a
> 14000 but ac and heater unit. With  100 degree days it does alright. Port
> shades keep a lot of the solar heat out. Biggest problem was the heat
> coming out the exhaust. I enclosed the vent hose that came with it in a 5"
> dryer hose also.this kept the heat isolated. Better insulation.
> Installed on a 38 LF. The unit is located by the quarter berth
> Jim schwartz
> SEA YA !
> c 38 LF
> Washington n c
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>  Original message 
> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> Date:08/19/2016 12:07 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: C List 
> Cc: Edd Schillay 
> Subject: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?
>
> Listers,
>
> We’ve had some really hot days up here in the Northeast and the Admiral is
> thinking air conditioning. I don’t really want to go through the expense of
> installing a marine air conditioner and through-hull valves, but I have
> been hearing stories of boaters putting one of those portable AC units on
> board with the exhaust hose going out through a hatch.
>
> I would probably stick with an 7,000-8,000 BTU using drawing 7-9 amps. The
> specs say that can cool 250 square feet, which I think would make the
> inside of a boat cabin quite comfortable. Obviously would only be used
> during shore power or while the engine is running (I have a high-amp
> alternator and a great inverter on board).
>
> Has anyone done this? Any thoughts?
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
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Re: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I have a 30 MkII and am in DC.  I have a 9,000 house vented through the
roof hatch.  It does not keep up with the 90 degree temps.  The air coming
out is cold, but the hull of the boat is just not insulated and I often see
80-82 degrees in the boat.  I'm running it in conjunction with a 4200btu
hatch AC and together I still see 78 in the mid day heat.  At night, I can
get the boat back down to mid to lower 70.  Great for sleeping.
The main benefit of the 9000ac is that it blows hard and I can stand and
sit anywhere and have very cold air blowing on me and it feels great.
However, the boat wall and everything not in the path of the ac is still
hot.  Better than nothing and well worth the $200 I spent.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> We’ve had some really hot days up here in the Northeast and the Admiral is
> thinking air conditioning. I don’t really want to go through the expense of
> installing a marine air conditioner and through-hull valves, but I have
> been hearing stories of boaters putting one of those portable AC units on
> board with the exhaust hose going out through a hatch.
>
> I would probably stick with an 7,000-8,000 BTU using drawing 7-9 amps. The
> specs say that can cool 250 square feet, which I think would make the
> inside of a boat cabin quite comfortable. Obviously would only be used
> during shore power or while the engine is running (I have a high-amp
> alternator and a great inverter on board).
>
> Has anyone done this? Any thoughts?
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
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Re: Stus-List How long before the raw water pump fuse water out the tailpipe?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

yes, its a 20GM or MG20.  Fresh water cooled, uses anti freeze and a raw
water pump.  I don't think 1 minute would hurt since there is water
circulating via the fresh water pump, but not sure how long the raw should
take to kick out water.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> You have an inboard?  Have you replaced the impeller?  Having no other
> details it doesn't a minute does not sound ridiculously long to wait.  I
> would keep an eye on it though and definitely replace the impeller if you
> don't have a record of its last replacement.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Aug 10, 2016 7:57 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> When I start my boat after it's been sitting for a few days it seems like
> it takes maybe a minute before the water comes out the tailpipe. How long
> is reasonable to wait? I have no heating issues.
>
> Lorne Serpa
> C 30MKII 1988
> Friendship,  MD
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Stus-List How long before the raw water pump fuse water out the tailpipe?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

When I start my boat after it's been sitting for a few days it seems like
it takes maybe a minute before the water comes out the tailpipe. How long
is reasonable to wait? I have no heating issues.

Lorne Serpa
C 30MKII 1988
Friendship,  MD
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Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

For 25K, that is, sorry not free.

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Lorne Serpa  wrote:

> You can have my 1988 MkII in Jan/Feb.  It's a 30' and in great shape,
> works great for racing (proven winner) and I currently live on it, fridge,
> hatch AC, very very good shape!  Have to wait though as it's my house.
> Lots of extra sails, way too many recent things to mention.
> ​
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Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

You can have my 1988 MkII in Jan/Feb.  It's a 30' and in great shape, works
great for racing (proven winner) and I currently live on it, fridge, hatch
AC, very very good shape!  Have to wait though as it's my house.  Lots of
extra sails, way too many recent things to mention.
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Stus-List Plastic caps plugs for cabin interior roof?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I need to replace a few caps that cover the bolt holes on the interior of
the cabin roof where the exterior teak handholds bolt through the roof.
Anyone know where to get some?  They are about 1 inch or so in diameter.

Lorne Serpa
C 30MKII 1988
Friendship,  MD
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Re: Stus-List Could this happen at your yacht club?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Was that Disney world?

Lorne Serpa
C 30MKII 1988
Friendship,  MD
On Jul 28, 2016 12:16 PM, "Joe Della Barba via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Nope – too cold in the winter here for gators.
>
> We have pelicans this year and a stray manatee or two sometimes, but they
> usually vacate the area and head south for the winter. AFAIK gators are not
> that mobile.
>
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>
> Joe Della Barba
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> j...@dellabarba.com
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> Coquina
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> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ed
> Dooley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:06 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Ed Dooley 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Could this happen at your yacht club?
>
>
>
> Definitely not here in Vermont. I've heard that gators won't eat sailors
> because they're too tough, that they focus
>
> on mega-powerboat folks, who are said to be more tender.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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> *From: *"Dennis C." 
>
> *Date: *July 28, 2016 11:49:13 AM EDT
>
> *To: *CnClist 
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> *Subject: **Stus-List Could this happen at your yacht club?*
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>
> This was across the street from my yacht club.  I usually park in the
> parking lot shown.
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> <
> http://www.wafb.com/story/32557023/police-catch-gator-lurking-by-lakefront
> >
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Crew needed in Annapolis tonight

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

What's the deal?  I'm newer (1yr experience.)  all my stuff,  PFD,
gloves,  shoes,  are back home 1. 5 hr from here.   I've never crewed
before. I just happen to be in Baltimore and start heading home to
Herrington Harbor,  in an hour. Annapolis is on the way.   Not sure I can
help,  but willing.

Lorne Serpa
C 30MKII 1988
Friendship,  MD
On Jul 20, 2016 3:25 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> We'll be done by 8:00.
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Would if I didn't work tomorrow at 5am.
>>
>> Lorne Serpa
>> C 30MKII 1988
>> Friendship,  MD
>> On Jul 20, 2016 3:21 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Last minute call - I'm skippering a J30 tonight.  Need a bowman.  Let me
>>> know if you can help out!
>>>
>>> --
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>>> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Crew needed in Annapolis tonight

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Would if I didn't work tomorrow at 5am.

Lorne Serpa
C 30MKII 1988
Friendship,  MD
On Jul 20, 2016 3:21 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Last minute call - I'm skippering a J30 tonight.  Need a bowman.  Let me
> know if you can help out!
>
> --
> Joel
> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Relocating the Yanmar key now alternator..

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Hum,  I.  New to this boat and boats with diesel engines.  Numerous times
past couple weeks have turned key off without killing the engine.  I have a
20gm. How do I know if I did damage? Check battery voltage while engine is
running? Should be 13.5 or so?

Lorne Serpa
C 30MKII 1988
Friendship,  MD
On Jul 20, 2016 12:50 AM, "Leslie Paal via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Small correction:
> "The sudden high
>  current overheats the diodes and they fail open"
> When the battery is disconnected while the alternator is charging the
> existing field current will generate a high voltage spike that exceeds the
> reverse voltage breakdown value.  Normal diodes are rated for 60-100V
> reverse voltage.  The spike can be lot more; depending how high was the
> charging current (more>higher).  The P/N junction will punch through, the
> resulting localized current can make it open or short.
>
> Overloading forward (normal direction) current will heat the chip and the
> carefully placed 'impurities' will migrate and make the diode a little or
> lot leaky.  Unless you fuse the internal connection, the open.
>
> Leslie.
> Phoenix C 1983
>
> 
> On Tue, 7/19/16, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List Relocating the Yanmar key now alternator..
>  To: "C List" 
>  Cc: "Josh Muckley" 
>  Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2016, 9:31 AM
>
>  I have heard
>  all of this before and am still electrically confused.  I
>  have a few theories but no proof.  In the face of my
>  theories is the fact that it is not consistently
>  repeatable.  So here goes.
>  Turn the battery off while running and the
>  alternator suddenly goes to full output kinda like shifting
>  to 1st while going 70mph.  I get that.  The sudden high
>  current overheats the diodes and they fail open.
>  Turn the key off while running and one of two
>  things happens.  1st option is that nothing about the
>  alternator is wired to the ignition and nothing happens.  I
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Stus-List 30MKII how are the windows attached?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

One of my exterior windows is leaking. How are the attached and removed? It
looks like there's four little round holes are those screws to hold them to
the boat?

Lorne Serpa
C 30MKII 1988
Friendship,  MD
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Re: Stus-List Where to run reefing line? 1988 C 30MKII.

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

How do you run reef 2 down the boom? I have an empty clutch and sleeve at
the end of the boom.

Lorne Serpa
C 30MKII 1988
Friendship,  MD
On Jul 9, 2016 7:06 AM, "Andrew Burton via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Even better than a bowline is to use a timber hitch. See this article from
> Cruising World:
> http://www.cruisingworld.com/how/timber-hitch
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 23:28, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yep, what Russ said.  I would only add that the bowline should not be
> around the boom but rather around the standing part of the line that is
> going around the boom.  This creates a bowline on a bite, a sort of slip
> know that will tighten down on the boom.  This ensures that when you reef
> you'll get the clew as close as possible to the boom.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jul 8, 2016 7:31 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The reefing line is run from the end of the boom to the clutch.
>> However,  it is not attached to the sail clue. I have a second reef eye in
>> the sail,  but no reefing line in the boom and an empty 2nd reefing line
>> clutch.
>> Where and how should the 1st reefing line attach?  On my 15' Potter,  it
>> went from the boom,  through the sail clue and back to a fixed spot on the
>> boom.   This gave a 2:1 purchase I think.  Should the C be the same way?
>> Or,  does it simply attach to the reef clue with a shackel or similar?
>>
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Stus-List What does this line do?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

3/4 ways up the mast is a halyard that runs internally inside the mast.
It's above the baby stay and below the jib halyard. What's it purpose?
Thanks.

Lorne Serpa
C 30MKII 1988
Friendship,  MD
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Stus-List Where to run reefing line? 1988 C 30MKII.

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

The reefing line is run from the end of the boom to the clutch.  However,
it is not attached to the sail clue. I have a second reef eye in the sail,
but no reefing line in the boom and an empty 2nd reefing line clutch.
Where and how should the 1st reefing line attach?  On my 15' Potter,  it
went from the boom,  through the sail clue and back to a fixed spot on the
boom.   This gave a 2:1 purchase I think.  Should the C be the same way?
Or,  does it simply attach to the reef clue with a shackel or similar?
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Re: Stus-List Embarrassing... But sail leach hits back stay.

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Thanks all!  Guess I should not worry about it.  I'm still new and this
seemed strange or bad.
On Jul 4, 2016 4:48 PM, "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> You can add a crane to the top of the mast – some have a springy batten or
> stainless strap – some are fixed. If you race, it may cause problems with
> your handicap. Or, the simplest – just don’t haul the sail all the way up –
> keep it down an inch or so and use the Cunningham to firm up the luff. Or
> do what all the other guys have mentioned. Our J-80 was notorious for
> having the main hang on the backstay. Pain in the butt.
>
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, July 4, 2016 4:19 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Embarrassing... But sail leach hits back stay.
>
>
>
> Lorne,
>
>
>
> Get out the roach spray!  As others have said, not a big deal. Your main
> has some extra roach. Both of my mains do also. Wouldn't have it any other
> way.
>
>
>
> The only time it will be an issue is light air. Then, like others have
> suggested, give the back stay a whack, drop the traveler or ease the sheet.
>
>
>
> Some sport boats have a lot of extra roach. Look for rigs that have a
> spring crane? that lifts and pulls aft the back stay to allow the main to
> pass. Not sure if crane is the right term.
>
> Again a caution to all about sailing with a wire topping lift. They will
> chafe the batten pockets a you'll eject a batten. They don't float.
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touché 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Just put up my main sail for the 1st time today.  I've never had a boat
> with a back stay.  On my 1988 C 30MKII sail hits the leach.   How's that
> supposed to work?
>
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Stus-List Embarrassing... But sail leach hits back stay.

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Just put up my main sail for the 1st time today.  I've never had a boat
with a back stay.  On my 1988 C 30MKII sail hits the leach.   How's that
supposed to work?
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Stus-List How to remove teak oil stains?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

The PO has teak oil all over the interior and roof,  etc.   What do you use
to get it off?
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Re: Stus-List How good is the ice box? 1988 30MkII

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Our evaporator is vertical against the sink, but also forward on the inside
of the box and the long dimension runs port-stbd. It's the way to go.

What is your reasoning for it's location?
I was going to do vertically against the sink, but the widest portion runs
bow/stern.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 5:52 AM, allen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Please get those pictures.  I have yet to mount the partition for the ice
> box and see how the ice cube trays mount.  My admiral is rather short so
> planning is essential if she's to be able to retrieve food from the bottom.
>
> Allen
>
> *From:* Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:25 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Kevin Driscoll <kevindrisc...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List How good is the ice box? 1988 30MkII
>
> Lorne,
> Our evaporator is vertical against the sink, but also forward on the
> inside of the box and the long dimension runs port-stbd. It's the way to
> go. Compressor is just under the settee forward of the stbd sink. You will
> have to cut a hole in the vertical fiberglass glass below the settee for
> the compressor to breath. Larger is better for compressor... And less
> attractive. Find a balance. I would do this on the portion facing forward
> and use a vent cover like this one.
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/attwood--venturi-vents--P012_363_002_502
>
> Essentially this would be below/behind yours knees if you were sitting in
> that settee.  Overall it's a very clean and efficient installation. I
> believe other 30-2 owners would have a similar installation. I'll grab
> pictures this weekend if I remember.
>
> Kevin
> 30-2
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016, 7:31 PM Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/icebox/build_icebox.htm this
>> one?
>> On Jun 21, 2016 8:02 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Read about my refrigeration install.  There is a link on the
>>> cncphotoalbum home page. There was about 1 1/8 inch open cell sheet foam
>>> around the box.  There are pics in the project document.
>>>
>>> Dennis C.
>>> Touché 35-1
>>> On Jun 21, 2016 6:17 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm converting to a fridge/icebox for live aboard.  I'm wondering if I
>>>> need to spray some more foam somehow around the outside of the box.
>>>> How thick or good is the factory insulation?
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
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Re: Stus-List How good is the ice box? 1988 30MkII

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Thanks guys for the tips/advice.
On Jun 22, 2016 3:43 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Agreed. You might pull it, but don't expect the tutorial on the C
> website to be relevant to our 30-2's. It's not very.
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 2:22 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Lorne,
>>
>> Since cutting the holes and passing the refrigerant lines is going to
>> prevent pulling the liner in the future, I would suggest pulling the liner
>> now to inspect and see it there are any opportunities to improve the
>> insulation.  Multiple authorities have cited additional insulation as being
>> the single biggest improvement you can make to any refrigerator.
>>
>> This will also be the best time to inspect/replace the drain and hoses.
>> No you're not going to be having much water but what little bit you do get
>> it is nice to have a drain that works.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Jun 22, 2016 3:24 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks,  that's 2 people on its decent insulation.  Guess I'll stop
>>> worrying about adding more and just put in the fridge (oval shaped
>>> condenser).
>>> On Jun 22, 2016 12:21 PM, "Jim Reinardy via CnC-List" <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lorne,
>>>>
>>>> I have a Novacool unit that came with the boat, not sure if it is
>>>> original or not.  On mine, the evaporator is on the settee side and the
>>>> compressor is under the settee right next to the refrigerator compartment.
>>>> I agree with Kevin's statement that the 30-2's are pretty well insulated.
>>>> I keep ice in my freezer without issues, and food and beer stay cold in the
>>>> refrigerator section.  It's night and day compared to my 70's Catalina 27
>>>> that had an icebox with a wooden lid and no insulation anywhere!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jim Reinardy
>>>> C 30-2 "Firewater"
>>>> Milwaukee, WI
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:33:38 -0600
>>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List How good is the ice box? 1988 30MkII
>>>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>> CC: lorne.se...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Sweet,  thanks.  I have an isotherm sitting in a box to install.
>>>> Where did you put the compressor and where did you put the evaporator?
>>>> I plan to put the evaporator vertical against the side closest to the
>>>> sink.   Any tip on install?
>>>> On Jun 21, 2016 5:56 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List" <
>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The 30-2's have are reasonably well insulated and do have an insulated
>>>> lid like the other Rob Ball boats. I personally wouldn't go tearing into
>>>> the cabinetry until after you install the refrigeration unit and see how it
>>>> does, especially since you'll be on shore power.
>>>>
>>>> Our Isotherm does quite fine. The cooling setting goes from 1-10. We
>>>> keep ours at 1.5, which keeps food frozen in the freezer compartment. At
>>>> setting 2 the entire reefer begins to freeze!
>>>>
>>>> Lorne, wait for other 30-2 members to weigh in. 60's and 70's boats are
>>>> very different than late 80's / early 90's boats.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:27 PM Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Our old boats were not designed for refrigeration.  You will definitely
>>>> need more insulation from what was originally supplied with the boat.  In
>>>> fact, if you look at the interior ceiling of your icebox, there is no
>>>> insulation at all there unless a previous owner added some.  There are a
>>>> lot of discussions about converting the old ice boxes to refrigeration on
>>>> this forum.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> > On Jun 21, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
>>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm converting to a fridge/icebox for live aboard.  I'm wondering if
>>>> I need to spray some more foam somehow around the outside of th

Re: Stus-List 30MKII batteries

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Would be nice to shove 2x group 31 in there.
On Jun 22, 2016 1:56 PM, "kelly petew via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I have an Interstate brand  grp 24 or 27 "dual purpose" battery as my
> starting battery.  Excellent battery.
>
> Last season I added two [2] "31DCXC" Harris batteries [wet cell] for my
> house bank.  I think these are group 31s with about 110 amp-hour capacity
> [google "Harris Batteries', in Ohio to be sure].
> As others have responded, these all reside under the aft cabinet berth.
> I will say the current house bank has a lower profile than what they
> replaced.  I had to glue a 1/2" wood strip to the front ends of the cover
> boards in order to ensure clearance for the old batteries.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Pete W.
>
> Siren Song
> '91 C
> Deltaville, VA.
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List How good is the ice box? 1988 30MkII

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Thanks,  that's 2 people on its decent insulation.  Guess I'll stop
worrying about adding more and just put in the fridge (oval shaped
condenser).
On Jun 22, 2016 12:21 PM, "Jim Reinardy via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Lorne,
>
> I have a Novacool unit that came with the boat, not sure if it is original
> or not.  On mine, the evaporator is on the settee side and the compressor
> is under the settee right next to the refrigerator compartment.  I agree
> with Kevin's statement that the 30-2's are pretty well insulated.  I keep
> ice in my freezer without issues, and food and beer stay cold in the
> refrigerator section.  It's night and day compared to my 70's Catalina 27
> that had an icebox with a wooden lid and no insulation anywhere!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Reinardy
> C 30-2 "Firewater"
> Milwaukee, WI
>
> --
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:33:38 -0600
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How good is the ice box? 1988 30MkII
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: lorne.se...@gmail.com
>
> Sweet,  thanks.  I have an isotherm sitting in a box to install.
> Where did you put the compressor and where did you put the evaporator?  I
> plan to put the evaporator vertical against the side closest to the sink.
> Any tip on install?
> On Jun 21, 2016 5:56 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> The 30-2's have are reasonably well insulated and do have an insulated lid
> like the other Rob Ball boats. I personally wouldn't go tearing into the
> cabinetry until after you install the refrigeration unit and see how it
> does, especially since you'll be on shore power.
>
> Our Isotherm does quite fine. The cooling setting goes from 1-10. We keep
> ours at 1.5, which keeps food frozen in the freezer compartment. At setting
> 2 the entire reefer begins to freeze!
>
> Lorne, wait for other 30-2 members to weigh in. 60's and 70's boats are
> very different than late 80's / early 90's boats.
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:27 PM Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Our old boats were not designed for refrigeration.  You will definitely
> need more insulation from what was originally supplied with the boat.  In
> fact, if you look at the interior ceiling of your icebox, there is no
> insulation at all there unless a previous owner added some.  There are a
> lot of discussions about converting the old ice boxes to refrigeration on
> this forum.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Jun 21, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm converting to a fridge/icebox for live aboard.  I'm wondering if I
> need to spray some more foam somehow around the outside of the box.
> > How thick or good is the factory insulation?
> > Thanks
> >
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Re: Stus-List 30MKII batteries

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Good info,  thanks. I'll see if others chime in.
On Jun 22, 2016 12:13 PM, "Jim Reinardy via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Lorne,
>
> I am not sure if my setup is standard, but I have a group 24 starting
> battery and 2 group 27 house batteries.  They are all in the back berth
> under an access panel.  In mine, the battery boxes with covers just barely
> fit without interfering with the access panel cover, so extra tall
> batteries could be an issue.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Reinardy
> C 30-2 "Firewater"
> Milwaukee, WI
>
> --
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:54:36 -0600
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List 30MKII batteries
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: lorne.se...@gmail.com
>
> 1st, my boat is 2000 miles away so I can't check,  so I appreciate the
> help.
> What size batteries can fit my 1988 30MKII?
> My survey said a group 21 is bad.  No such thing.  I called and the old
> man doesn't remember which is bad.   I plan to pre buy my batteries since
> they are all about 8-9 years old.
> What is the required starting battery?
> What size/group are the 2 house batteries?  And,  will two 6 volt GC2
> batteries fit,  they are taller than Group 31 but narrower.
> Thanks for any help.
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Stus-List 30MKII batteries

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

1st, my boat is 2000 miles away so I can't check,  so I appreciate the
help.
What size batteries can fit my 1988 30MKII?
My survey said a group 21 is bad.  No such thing.  I called and the old man
doesn't remember which is bad.   I plan to pre buy my batteries since they
are all about 8-9 years old.
What is the required starting battery?
What size/group are the 2 house batteries?  And,  will two 6 volt GC2
batteries fit,  they are taller than Group 31 but narrower.
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Re: Stus-List How good is the ice box? 1988 30MkII

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/icebox/build_icebox.htm this one?
On Jun 21, 2016 8:02 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Read about my refrigeration install.  There is a link on the cncphotoalbum
> home page. There was about 1 1/8 inch open cell sheet foam around the box.
> There are pics in the project document.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touché 35-1
> On Jun 21, 2016 6:17 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm converting to a fridge/icebox for live aboard.  I'm wondering if I
>> need to spray some more foam somehow around the outside of the box.
>> How thick or good is the factory insulation?
>> Thanks
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List How good is the ice box? 1988 30MkII

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Sweet,  thanks.  I have an isotherm sitting in a box to install.
Where did you put the compressor and where did you put the evaporator?  I
plan to put the evaporator vertical against the side closest to the sink.
Any tip on install?
On Jun 21, 2016 5:56 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

The 30-2's have are reasonably well insulated and do have an insulated lid
like the other Rob Ball boats. I personally wouldn't go tearing into the
cabinetry until after you install the refrigeration unit and see how it
does, especially since you'll be on shore power.

Our Isotherm does quite fine. The cooling setting goes from 1-10. We keep
ours at 1.5, which keeps food frozen in the freezer compartment. At setting
2 the entire reefer begins to freeze!

Lorne, wait for other 30-2 members to weigh in. 60's and 70's boats are
very different than late 80's / early 90's boats.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:27 PM Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Our old boats were not designed for refrigeration.  You will definitely
> need more insulation from what was originally supplied with the boat.  In
> fact, if you look at the interior ceiling of your icebox, there is no
> insulation at all there unless a previous owner added some.  There are a
> lot of discussions about converting the old ice boxes to refrigeration on
> this forum.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Jun 21, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm converting to a fridge/icebox for live aboard.  I'm wondering if I
> need to spray some more foam somehow around the outside of the box.
> > How thick or good is the factory insulation?
> > Thanks
> >
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>
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> Baltimore, MD 21224
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Re: Stus-List How good is the ice box? 1988 30MkII

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Thanks, I've read a lot about it, but didn't know how good the box is to
start with.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Our old boats were not designed for refrigeration.  You will definitely
> need more insulation from what was originally supplied with the boat.  In
> fact, if you look at the interior ceiling of your icebox, there is no
> insulation at all there unless a previous owner added some.  There are a
> lot of discussions about converting the old ice boxes to refrigeration on
> this forum.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Jun 21, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm converting to a fridge/icebox for live aboard.  I'm wondering if I
> need to spray some more foam somehow around the outside of the box.
> > How thick or good is the factory insulation?
> > Thanks
> >
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Stus-List How good is the ice box? 1988 30MkII

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I'm converting to a fridge/icebox for live aboard.  I'm wondering if I need
to spray some more foam somehow around the outside of the box.
How thick or good is the factory insulation?
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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Ah ha,  thanks for the link and picture in it.   Dogbone .
On Jun 21, 2016 11:49 AM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> https://goo.gl/images/SFjSqC
> On Jun 21, 2016 12:18 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Humm,  what's a dog bone?  I'll be sailing 90% single.
>> On Jun 21, 2016 10:13 AM, "kelly petew via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep
>>> the boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.
>>> Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and
>>> you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce
>>> pressure on the rudder.
>>>
>>> You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart
>>> in the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's
>>> stiffness.
>>> That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.
>>>
>>> Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent
>>> measure.
>>> If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding
>>> "dogbones" to your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce
>>> the possibility of a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
>>>
>>> Give a report on your 1st sail.
>>>
>>> Pete W.
>>> Siren Song
>>> '91 C 30-2 #170
>>> Deltaville, VA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
>>> From: Allan Rheaume <drumroll30m...@yahoo.ca>
>>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <814944704.1736603.1466504731991.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting
>>> overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true.
>>>
>>> Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Since my boat is along way away... My pictures I took show:
Port side: jib halyard,  outhaul,  reef 1, and one line in the clutch that
isn't labeled.

Starboard
Two 3 pack clutches :Boom Vang,  Cunningham, and the rest I can't read of
which one is empty.
On Jun 21, 2016 11:24 AM, "allen via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hey, all you 30-2 owners.
>
> I've got to ask what sail controls for head and main do you have?
>
> Allen Miles
>
> *From:* kelly petew via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:12 PM
> *To:* cnc-list 
> *Cc:* kelly petew 
> *Subject:* Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??
>
> I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep the
> boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.
> Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and
> you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce
> pressure on the rudder.
>
> You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart in
> the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's stiffness.
> That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.
>
> Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent
> measure.
> If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding "dogbones"
> to your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce the
> possibility of a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
>
> Give a report on your 1st sail.
>
> Pete W.
> Siren Song
> '91 C 30-2 #170
> Deltaville, VA
>
>
>
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
> From: Allan Rheaume 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
> Message-ID:
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> Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting
> overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true.
>
> Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90
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Re: Stus-List C 30-2 -when to reef??

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Humm,  what's a dog bone?  I'll be sailing 90% single.
On Jun 21, 2016 10:13 AM, "kelly petew via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I, too, carry a 140 genoa, and reef around 12 knots.  I like to  keep the
> boat on its "feet".  So, 10 to 15 degree heel is good for me.
> Nervous or not, you'll start to feel weather helm at 10 to 12 knots, and
> you'll want to reef [the main 1st] to keep up your speed and reduce
> pressure on the rudder.
>
> You are correct that this boat is "tender".  I believe there is a chart in
> the photoalbum archives that documents this as well as the 30-1's stiffness.
> That said, the boat carries a lot of sail area, and it's fast IMO.
>
> Also, I single-hand a lot and typically start with a reef as a prudent
> measure.
> If you don't already have them on your main, I recommend adding "dogbones"
> to your reef points, to make reefing quick and easy [and reduce the
> possibility of a rip to your sail; they are cheap].
>
> Give a report on your 1st sail.
>
> Pete W.
> Siren Song
> '91 C 30-2 #170
> Deltaville, VA
>
>
>
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:25:31 + (UTC)
> From: Allan Rheaume 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?
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> Hi Lorne, I carry a 140% headsail on my 30-2. I usually start getting
> overpowered upwind at around 12 knots true.
>
> Al RheaumeDrumroll 30-2 #90
>
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Stus-List 1988 30MkII. When to reef?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I've been sailing for about 1.5 years on a 13' hobbie and WW Potter P15.
My 30MkII is my 1st real boat of any size and weight. I have not sailed it
yet.  I'll be heading out for my 1st sail about 1 July.

When do you 30MkII owners start reefing above what wind speed?  I believe
the 30MkII is "tender", but have also read it is pretty "stiff" so I'm not
sure what to believe.  I'm not a fan of heeling yet, gets me a tid bit
nervous, but not as much since taking ASA 101,103/104 last month.

I have heard the 30MkII is pretty good carrying a lot of sail in light wind
and moves well.  I just needs to be reefed earlier than many boats to sail
flat.

What is considered decent wind for a 30MkII?  I fully understand that it is
based on skill.  In my ASA classes, we put in a reef in at about Beaufort
6/7 in Corpus Christi Bay, TX.  The boat was a 35' Benatou.  We had a great
time with no worries.  Will a 30MkII be similar, or very different due to
the 5 foot less, less beam, and probably much less ballast?
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Re: Stus-List 1988 30 MK2 1/4 berth size?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Thanks for the recommendations.   However she still wants to make some
sheets.
On Jun 18, 2016 6:06 PM, "schiller via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> +1 on Tufted Topper and their fitted sheets.  We have one for our Redwing
> 35.
>
> Neil Schiller
> 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
> (C 35, Mark I)
> "Corsair"
> White Lake, MI
>
> On 6/18/2016 3:16 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I had this company http://www.tuftedtopper.com/ make a topper for my
> V-berth.  Definitely worth the money.  They also make custom sheets.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello.  My wife wants to get sheets for the double berth on our boat.
>> It's thousands of miles away.  Anyone know  the dimensions? Length and also
>> head and foot widths since it's tapered.  Thanks really appreciate it.
>>
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Stus-List 1988 30 MK2 1/4 berth size?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Hello.  My wife wants to get sheets for the double berth on our boat.
It's thousands of miles away.  Anyone know  the dimensions? Length and also
head and foot widths since it's tapered.  Thanks really appreciate it.
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Re: Stus-List 1988 30MKII 2GM throttle reversed

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

HummmI does have a feathering prop.
I'll have to look at the pictures and see what way it turns.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 6:48 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Here's a thought.  What type of throttle does it have?  Is there a chance
> that it is integrated throttle and shift?  Straight up and down is
> neutral.  Pushing forward would both shift into forward and progressively
> throttle up.  Pulling aft would shift into reverse and progressively
> throttle up.  The throttle COULD be "reversed" in that pushing forward
> engages reverse and pulling back engages the forward gear.  This can happen
> 2 different ways.  Either the boat has been repowered with an engine or
> gearbox that spins the shaft opposite.  OR, a feathering prop was installed
> and set up backwards.  Either of these conditions can be corrected by
> changing the prop.
>
> Maybe
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jun 16, 2016 1:50 AM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm going over my survey which I was not present for.  I'm 2000 miles
>> from my boat at this time... But the survey person said my throttle is
>> reversed.  How would I fix this?  Is it likely backwards on the helm side
>> or on the engine side at the carburetor /throttle valve?  Why would the PO
>> have it reversed to begin with?
>> I'd like to know in advance of me arriving so I know what kind of task I
>> have ahead of time and tools/parts I might need.   I need to sail away
>> within a day of arriving to pick it up and would have one day to repair
>> /reverse it to correct direction ASAP.
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Stus-List What is my engine HP rating?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I have a 1988 C 30MKII.  The engine plackard says 2GM20F and 16hp. For
sale ad by owner said 18 hp and survey report says 20.
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Re: Stus-List 1988 30MKII 2GM throttle reversed

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Thinking about it,  the transmission would be reversed not the throttle
right? .  How would I reverse that?  Survey says it's a Kanzaki
transmission.
On Jun 15, 2016 11:50 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> I'm going over my survey which I was not present for.  I'm 2000 miles
> from my boat at this time... But the survey person said my throttle is
> reversed.  How would I fix this?  Is it likely backwards on the helm side
> or on the engine side at the carburetor /throttle valve?  Why would the PO
> have it reversed to begin with?
> I'd like to know in advance of me arriving so I know what kind of task I
> have ahead of time and tools/parts I might need.   I need to sail away
> within a day of arriving to pick it up and would have one day to repair
> /reverse it to correct direction ASAP.
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Stus-List 1988 30MKII 2GM throttle reversed

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I'm going over my survey which I was not present for.  I'm 2000 miles  from
my boat at this time... But the survey person said my throttle is
reversed.  How would I fix this?  Is it likely backwards on the helm side
or on the engine side at the carburetor /throttle valve?  Why would the PO
have it reversed to begin with?
I'd like to know in advance of me arriving so I know what kind of task I
have ahead of time and tools/parts I might need.   I need to sail away
within a day of arriving to pick it up and would have one day to repair
/reverse it to correct direction ASAP.
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Re: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Thank you for the info!
How does the "wood framed screen in the companionway" stop air flow?


On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:41 AM, allen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> There are two ports in my main cabin, one in the head and one in the aft
> cabin ceilings, all square.  The "screens" are flexible screening held in
> by Velcro around the edges.  The oblong ports in the head and aft cabin
> back walls and one opening horizontally on to cabin sole are factory made
> units that came with the ports. I have another Velcro held screen in the
> fore cabin, and a wood framed screen in the companionway.
>
> We rarely use the framed units because it cuts down the airflow.
>
> Allen
>
> *From:* Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:41 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Lorne Serpa <lorne.se...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?
>
> The 4 equal size ones in the cabin solon.  Not the large opening
> hatch/escape hatch.
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:34 AM, allen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Which ports are you describing?
>>
>> Allen Miles
>> S/V Septima
>> C 30-2
>> Hampton, VA
>>
>> *From:* Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:50 PM
>> *To:* Cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Lorne Serpa <lorne.se...@gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?
>>
>> My new to me 30MKII) 1988) is 2000 miles away,  but wondering if the 4
>> lewmar ports have bug screens in them.  Anyone know?  If not,  where can I
>> get some?  Thanks.
>>
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Re: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

The 4 equal size ones in the cabin solon.  Not the large opening
hatch/escape hatch.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:34 AM, allen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Which ports are you describing?
>
> Allen Miles
> S/V Septima
> C 30-2
> Hampton, VA
>
> *From:* Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* Cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Lorne Serpa <lorne.se...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?
>
> My new to me 30MKII) 1988) is 2000 miles away,  but wondering if the 4
> lewmar ports have bug screens in them.  Anyone know?  If not,  where can I
> get some?  Thanks.
>
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Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

My new to me 30MKII) 1988) is 2000 miles away,  but wondering if the 4
lewmar ports have bug screens in them.  Anyone know?  If not,  where can I
get some?  Thanks.
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Re: Stus-List Friday Night Rescue

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I ask because I don't know and am new to sailing...
Why didn't you just stop and pick them up vice circling with a ring in tow?

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:10 PM, RANDY via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> We've met - I remember your boat High Cotton.  I used to crew for Rick Fox
> on his Merit 25.  Since he's a mutual Facebook friend, I sometimes see your
> posts.  Didn't know you were on this list - do you own a C now?
>
> Chatfield may be a weird place to sail, but it's my main place to sail :)
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
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> *From: *"Michael Cotton via CnC-List" 
> *To: *"cnc-list" 
> *Cc: *"Michael Cotton" 
> *Sent: *Monday, June 13, 2016 2:58:09 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Friday Night Rescue
>
>  I sailed Chatfield for a few years. They seem to have their own rules for
> navigation. VHF 16 has no value, orange flags all over the place( we just
> finished a year of cruising from Md to New England then to the Bahamas and
> Key West, never saw an orange flag). Orange flags are for extreme
> emergencies. Sailboats have to give way to a trolling power boat. It's a
> weird place to sail.
>
>
> On Monday, June 13, 2016 4:35 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> Way to go, Randy!
>
> Everyone who sails in cold water should know the 1-10-1 rule:  When you
> first enter the water, you have one minute to catch your breath, before you
> might pass out.  The shock of entering cold water can take your breath
> away, and leave you gasping for air.  You have about ten minutes before
> your muscles can no longer help you get back onto your boat.  You have
> about an hour before you might die from hypothermia.
>
> Also, keep in mind that when you use a Life Sling, when you pass by the
> person in  the water, you have to be close to him/her for the sling to be
> within reach.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:17 PM, RANDY via CnC-List  > wrote:
>
> Just a little story to share with you all.
>
> Went out for a leisure sail Friday evening with my daughter her friend, in
> Beaufort 4 or 5 conditions.  We sailed under main only, and there was a 15"
> whitecap chop on the water.  Hardly any boats on the lake, but one
> windsurfer really hauling ass.
>
> Out in the middle of the lake, we heard some yelling, and looked around to
> see three PFD-less people standing on a small low fiberglass fishing boat
> that was going down by the stern.  I barely had time to say "shit, they're
> sinking."  Next time I looked, the boat was gone, and the people were in
> the water amongst various debris.  There were no other boats in the
> vicinity and I realized we were going to have to rescue them as quickly as
> we could.
>
> Started my Atomic-4 without running the blower first, luffed my main,
> drove to them, and threw out my life sling.  Had to circle them three or
> four times dragging the life sling line by them, before we could get them
> all pulled in and aboard via the swim ladder.  I missed on the first try or
> two just due to the wind and water conditions and my main flogging.  One of
> them was about 30 yards from the other two, who told me to get the lone guy
> first.  By the time we got the other two aboard, they'd been in the
> 68-degree water probably ten minutes.
>
> Dropped the main, drove to the marina, docked at the launch ramp, and
> called 911 for the first guy at the request of the second one.  I think he
> was very intoxicated or high on something.  He was incoherent and unable to
> move his body well, and it wasn't from exhaustion.  Plus his friends told
> me to get him first, so they must have known something.
>
> Anyway, couple lessons learned.  First, my life sling line was not already
> tied off with the life sling in the bag.  It should have been.  Had to tell
> my daughter's friend to tie it off before throwing it out.  Second, in all
> the chaos we forgot to give them blankets when we got them aboard.  One
> went below and my daughter gave them all towels, but they were all at least
> very cold if not in the beginning stages of hypothermia.  Third, don't
> expect the Chatfield State Park rangers to respond to a mayday hail on VHF
> 16 - I hailed as soon as I grasped what was happening, to no avail.
>
> It was lucky that I was in the right place at the right time.  There were
> no other boats around.  These three were too far in the middle of the lake
> to swim to shore and I don't know if they could have given the conditions
> (including theirs).  And I'm glad we were able to get a line to them before
> having to witness any of them drowning.  Couldn't have done without my
> daughter and her friend (both 22-ish) - that would have been too much for
> me to manage alone.
>
> After we unloaded them, filed our statements, put the boat away, and drove
> home, we toasted the good 

Re: Stus-List Adjustable backstay?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

With 10 inches,  wouldn't that be very effective for moving the draft of
the main forward as well as tightening the luff of the jib?
On Jun 5, 2016 2:02 PM, "Ainslie via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I recently did the procedure Alan describes on my 35-3, using the main
> halyard and a six-pack for weight. With the boom slightly off to starboard,
> I used tape as markers on the boom for each of my ‘soundings’. I started
> with no tension on the hydraulic backstay, and progressed to 500 kpsi,
> 1000, and 1500 kpsi. Each of those increments moved the masthead aft 2 to 3
> inches. From the no-tension position to 1500 kpsi, my beer-bob weight moved
> aft a total of 10 inches. I didn’t notice a difference in the beer-bob with
> the babystay tensioned or not (which makes sense because the babystay won’t
> affect the masthead), but it was easy to see the bend in the mast. If you
> stand at the mast with any amount of tension on the backstay, and you flex
> the babystay by hand, you’ll see how the mast flexes. Not hard to see how
> this is an important control in sail trim.
>
>
>
> Jason Ainslie, Spirit
>
> C 35 Mk III
>
> Port of Bayfield Ontario
>
>
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> BERGEN via CnC-List
> *Sent:* June-04-16 2:35 PM
> *To:* cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* ALAN BERGEN
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Adjustable backstay?
>
>
>
> The babystay doesn't go slack.  The whole mast moves back, but more at the
> top than at the middle.  If you want to see the effect of tightening the
> backstay, look at the forestay, and sight up the mast from the side while
> the backstay is not tensioned too tight.  Then run a weighted line (or even
> your main halyard if the main is down) from the top of the mast to the
> boom.  When you tension the backstay, the top of the mast moves back; the
> middle of the mast moves back (less than at the top); the weighted line
> will move aft along the boom; the forestay will be straighter and you'll
> see the bend of the mast when sighting from the side from the boom to the
> top of the mast.
>
> Alan Bergen
>
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>
> Rose City YC
>
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Sam, like you said, the mast is more or less fixed, but not completely.
> As you decrease backstay length the mast has two motions, bending and
> rotating from the deck pivot point.  As it rotates (pivots) backward it
> tightens the forestay.  That's about all I get with my tree trunk of a
> mast; no bending, but more than an inch back and down.  The thinner
> sections with multiple spreaders and/or babystays will get more bending.
> Both motions move the tip of the mast back and down since the forestay is
> mostly fixed (it does lengthen slightly since it's a bit of a catenary and
> more tension takes some droop out).  Since systems seek an equilibrium
> which reduces overall tension, the babystay will loosen slightly with the
> bending, but will assist the bending motion until equilibrium.
>
> Frac rigs get a lot more bending of course by geometry alone.  And tuning
> them starts with lighting a candle by the hollow stump at midnight!  Those
> with multiple spreaders are the devils own design.
>
> Ron
>
> Wild Cheri
>
> C 30-1
>
> STL
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* Sam Salter via CnC-List 
> *To:* CNC-LIST 
> *Cc:* Sam Salter 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 3, 2016 9:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Adjustable backstay?
>
>
>
> Looking at this as an engineering problem (I don't have a 30-2) - explain
> what I'm missing:
>
>
>
> Top of the mast is more or less fixed (fore and aft) by the forestay.
> Sure, it will move back an inch or two when it takes up slack in the
> forestay, but mostly it's going to stay put.
>
> Baby stay puts pre bend into centre of mast‎ or at least fixes it in
> space, fore and aft.
>
> When backstay is tensioned won't the top move mostly down and push the
> middle of the mast forward, slackening the baby stay?
>
> Tensioning the forestay‎ and taking draft out of the main.
>
> Do you guys see the baby stay go slack or am I full of it???
>
>
>
> sam :-)
>
> C 26 Liquorice
>
> Ghost Lake Alberta
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Is this lantern real?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

This is on my C 30. Is it real and usable? If it is real, what are the
effects of using it? Will it get nasty,  make soot on the roof?
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Stus-List Adjustable backstay?

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I'm new to sailing.  My C 30MkII has an adjustable back stay.  However, I
have watched a couple sailing videos and they say with a full rig vs.
fractional, it cannot be adjusted because the back and front stays are
attached at the top.
How do you adjust the mast rack/bend with a back stay if the fore stay is
attached at the same point?  Keeps answers simple for me...don't know all
the lingo yet.
Thanks.
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Stus-List Hull Identification number required by New Mexico. Transom Depth?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Hello.  I have purchased a 1988 30MkII.  On the paperwork, the motor
vehicle department needs some measurements.  One is "Transom Depth"  My
boat is in DC and I'm in New Mexico.  Anyone with a C care to
measure and let me know the transom height?
Thanks a ton.

Lorne
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Stus-List 30MkII 1988 galley thru hull size?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Good day.  I'm asking because I just purchased my boat, but it is 2,000
miles away.  I want to plan my install before I get there to install it.
I'm about to order a Isotherm 2551 Compact SP water cooled refrigeration
system in my 1988 C 30MkII ice box.
It uses a kitchen sink thru hull self pumping fitting in place of the
galley sink drain thru hull.  The instructions for thru hull installation
says
The skin fitting is to be mounted in the hull instead of existing fitting
for the galley sink waste water. The hole in the hull shall have a diameter
of 60 mm (2½”).

Anyone know what the galley sink waste water thru hull diameter is?  I
wonder if I will have to enlarge the hull?

Thank you.
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Stus-List Vent recommendations 30MkII

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The 1988 C 30MkII has 4 opening Lewmar hatches; two in the cabin, one in
1/4 berth, and one in the bathroom.  My boat is 2000 miles away and cannot
verify it though.  I just bought it.
I would like to install solar vents to move air and control humidity.
Where should I put them?  Here are my thoughts.
One in the bathroom due to showers and higher water use.  One in the /14
berth to keep the temps cool and fresh air supply.  And, finally one in the
cabin.  I think I need to avoid the large port over the V-berth due to
water intrusion while sailing to weather, noise over the berth while
sleeping, and finally, perhaps I might on occasion cover the port for
darkness while sleeping and the vent would be covered.
Anyone know what size vent is needed as I don't know the Lewmar hatch
dimensions or material (Plexiglas?).
Anyone have a better recommendation on the quantity and locations?
Thanks.
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Stus-List C Mk2 solar panel mounting

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I kept my two 135 watt panels off my RV to use on a boat.   They are large
at 62"x28".  Now that I have a new to me 1988 MK2.  I don't know where to
mount the large panels.   I've seen them on other brands of boats mounted
on the side of the boats on the stanchion.  Wouldn't they get dragged when
it heels over?  I was thinking of on the rear cockpit rails so they stick
out the back length wise but somehow fold down.  However the back rails are
rounded or curved.
Where does all the C 30Mk 2 owners mount panels?
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Stus-List Dry ice in ice box? 1988 C MK II 30"

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Will the ice box handle dry ice? I know that for everyday cooler that you
take to the beach they're not designed for the extra low temperature of dry
ice.
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Re: Stus-List Water tank size. Is there more than one? 30MkII 1988

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Do you still own yours?  May I call you this coming week?  I have a ton of
questions.
On May 1, 2016 8:07 PM, "Jim Reinardy via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Lorne,
>
>
>
> My 1988 30-2 has 2 tanks as you describe, one starboard under the settee
> and one under the V-berth.  78 gallons total sounds about right.  The
> holding tank is aft, under the floor of the starboard lazerette next to the
> water heater.  Not sure if that is a standard or optional configuration,
> but I am pretty sure it came from the factory this way.  Our boat was
> originally shipped to Traverse City and has always been on Lake Michigan.
>
>
>
> Jim Reinardy
>
> C 30-2 “Firewater”
>
> Milwaukee, WI
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Watts via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 01, 2016 8:59 PM
> *To:* 1 CnC List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Water tank size. Is there more than one? 30MkII
> 1988
>
>
>
> Boats that weren't shipped to the Great Lakes frequently had the holding
> tank plumbed as an extra water tank. Maybe?
>
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
>
>
> On 1 May 2016 at 16:13, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> The ad for my boat says water is 78 gallons.  The spec sheet in the
> owner's manual says "standard tank size" is 42.5 gallons.  Is there a
> non-standard or optional sizes or do you think the ad for the boat is wrong?
>
> The line drawings in the manual also shows two tanks, two vents, two
> fillers.  One is on the starboard side and the other under the v berth.
> The boat is 2,000 miles away and I'd look if I could.  Maybe one tank is
> standard and the other optional?  Thanks for any info.
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Water tank size. Is there more than one? 30MkII 1988

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

The ad for my boat says water is 78 gallons.  The spec sheet in the owner's
manual says "standard tank size" is 42.5 gallons.  Is there a non-standard
or optional sizes or do you think the ad for the boat is wrong?
The line drawings in the manual also shows two tanks, two vents, two
fillers.  One is on the starboard side and the other under the v berth.
The boat is 2,000 miles away and I'd look if I could.  Maybe one tank is
standard and the other optional?  Thanks for any info.
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Stus-List What is an off shore mast? 1988 Mk II

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I'm reading a downloaded owner's manual and it refers to an off short
mast.  Is there a standard mast and an off shore one?  Mine has two
spreaders if it makes a difference.
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Stus-List Travel in Cockpit vs dodger.

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On my SOON  to be 1988 CNC 30MKII, the traveler is in the cockpit vice
cabin top.  Can a dodger be installed?  Also,  anyone know where to get a
dodge in the Chesapeake Bay area?
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Stus-List Wing Keel Lift?

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So, working on buying my 1st sailboat greater than 15'.  It's a 1988 30MkII.
It has a wing keel.  I read somewhere that a wing keel generates some lift.
So
Does a wing keel create lift?
Should I have more heavy stuff at the back of the boat for increased angle
of attack on the keel?
Or..
don't be silly.. its a 8,000lb boat going 5 knots.  It does nothing.

Lorne
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Re: Stus-List '88 MkII 30 polar?

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Yes,  I ment casual racing for fun. I'm not into stressing my boat and
sails,  breaking stuff if I have to live on it.   I'll have full cabinets,
food,  clothes,  ac,  etc.  I'd be nowhere competitive with 1.5 years of
sporadic sailing on a lake either.   I'd like to have fun though.

On Apr 29, 2016 12:49 PM, "Sam Wheeler via CnC-List" 
wrote:
>
> Same here.  I bought my 35-3 this winter to live aboard and pleasure
sail, but I do my racing on other boats.  Even if you're new to it, I would
expect that it shouldn't be too hard to find reasonably good racers looking
for extra crew.  It's terrific experience.
>
> I'm hoping to enter mine in some very casual races once I've got her set
up to my liking, but I definitely don't expect to finish particularly well
with my tired sails and with all my stuff on board, and I wouldn't do it if
I didn't already have a racing background.
>
> Sam
> 35-3
> SF
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1.  I spent three years crewing on other people's boats - headsail and
spinnaker trimmer, foredeck, driver, "fourth", etc. - before buying my own
boat and raising a crew for racing.  My crew are relatively inexperienced
and I want us all to rotate around and cross-train on every position.  But
that's still not the same as one person crewing around on different boats
with different crews.  My crew won't get that cross-pollination.  It helps
you judge what works well and what doesn't, and pick up information from a
variety of sources.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Randy
>>
>> 
>> From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
>> To: "cnc-list" 
>> Cc: "Dennis" 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 8:05:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List '88 MkII 30 polar?
>>
>>
>> Ditto. That's what I did. Not only do you absorb a lot of sailing go
fast knowledge, you will also see what works best as far as running rigging
configurations, strategy, etc.  I worked every position on lots of boats.
My time spent racing on other boats was priceless.  I still do it.
>>
>> As a skipper who has experience as main trimmer, genoa trimmer, grinder,
put, foredeck, mast, etc. I understand what each crew member is doing,
needs to do.  Makes me a better skipper. BTW, I didn't usually drive the
boat. One of my crew was better at it. I usually did foredeck.
>>
>> Guy in my marina races his boat. He only drives. He never races on other
boats nor does he do other positions on his boat.  His racing program never
improves.
>>
>> The other advantage to racing on other boats is you don't have to pay
for broken stuff.  :)
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touché 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lorne,
>>>
>>> Please do not try to learn how to sail and to race with a liveaboard
boat that you just got in to.
>>>
>>> The very best way to learn racing and sailing is to get out by crewing
on well found yachts. The ego of most crew members will smother you with
information and by the end of a season you will see much of it applied.
Good and bad.
>>>
>>> Then you can use your own boat, loaded as she will be, for pleasure.
Say, a nice daysail once in awhile.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Russ
>>> Sweet 35 mk-1
>>>
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Re: Stus-List '88 MkII 30 polar?

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Never raced before, interesting table with lots of boats.  I obviously have
lots of reading tonight when I get off work.  What dimensions are best to
get as close to match and in what priority?  I assume "I" J, P, E etc in
that order need to match and that I is more important to match than J and
more so then P etc down the line.

I do plan to get into racing this year, but it's a whole new world to me.
I mainly bought it to live on, but want to increase my sailing experience.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'd look at the PHRF rating for similar sized boats like a Bene Oceanis
> 31, Dehler 29 etc. and use the closest.
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> A couple of my new weather routing apps would like a polar to make
>> routing more accurate.   Anyone have one or know where to get one? If not,
>> there polar are prep loaded.  Would any get me close?
>>
>> C5g3
>> A35
>> BP5
>> CIGALE14
>> CLASS40
>> FIGARO2
>> IMOCA2008MONO650
>> POGO850
>> TRANSPAC52
>>
>> Archambault
>> a31 a35 a40rc
>> Bavaria
>> bavaria33 bavaria32 bavaria34
>> Bénéteau
>> evasion32 figaro2 first210 first21_7 first25_7 first26 first27_7
>> first30jk first310s first31_7 first325gte first32s5 oceanis31 oceanis34
>> first24 first29 evasion34 firstclass10 oceanis351
>> Dehler
>> dehler29 dehler32
>> Dufour
>> dufour27 dufour34  dufour24 dufour34
>> Etap
>> etap32i
>> Express
>> express27
>> Farr
>> far36od mumm30
>> Hallberg Rassy
>> J Boats
>> j105 j109 j120 j122 j133
>> Jeanneau
>> jod35 melody sunfast32 sunfast3200 sunfast32i
>> Tartan
>> tartan10
>> Wauquiez
>> gladiateur
>> X Yachts
>> x332 xp33
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Re: Stus-List '88 MkII 30 polar?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I'm new to sailing.  I sort of see what  you are saying.  How to I know
what my PHRF rating is for a Mk II 30?
And, how do I know what  PHRF rating is for other boats?  I assume there is
a library somewhere?  I'll google it tonight.  Thanks.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'd look at the PHRF rating for similar sized boats like a Bene Oceanis
> 31, Dehler 29 etc. and use the closest.
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> A couple of my new weather routing apps would like a polar to make
>> routing more accurate.   Anyone have one or know where to get one? If not,
>> there polar are prep loaded.  Would any get me close?
>>
>> C5g3
>> A35
>> BP5
>> CIGALE14
>> CLASS40
>> FIGARO2
>> IMOCA2008MONO650
>> POGO850
>> TRANSPAC52
>>
>> Archambault
>> a31 a35 a40rc
>> Bavaria
>> bavaria33 bavaria32 bavaria34
>> Bénéteau
>> evasion32 figaro2 first210 first21_7 first25_7 first26 first27_7
>> first30jk first310s first31_7 first325gte first32s5 oceanis31 oceanis34
>> first24 first29 evasion34 firstclass10 oceanis351
>> Dehler
>> dehler29 dehler32
>> Dufour
>> dufour27 dufour34  dufour24 dufour34
>> Etap
>> etap32i
>> Express
>> express27
>> Farr
>> far36od mumm30
>> Hallberg Rassy
>> J Boats
>> j105 j109 j120 j122 j133
>> Jeanneau
>> jod35 melody sunfast32 sunfast3200 sunfast32i
>> Tartan
>> tartan10
>> Wauquiez
>> gladiateur
>> X Yachts
>> x332 xp33
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Stus-List '88 MkII 30 polar?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

A couple of my new weather routing apps would like a polar to make routing
more accurate.   Anyone have one or know where to get one? If not,  there
polar are prep loaded.  Would any get me close?

C5g3
A35
BP5
CIGALE14
CLASS40
FIGARO2
IMOCA2008MONO650
POGO850
TRANSPAC52

Archambault
a31 a35 a40rc
Bavaria
bavaria33 bavaria32 bavaria34
Bénéteau
evasion32 figaro2 first210 first21_7 first25_7 first26 first27_7 first30jk
first310s first31_7 first325gte first32s5 oceanis31 oceanis34  first24
first29 evasion34 firstclass10 oceanis351
Dehler
dehler29 dehler32
Dufour
dufour27 dufour34  dufour24 dufour34
Etap
etap32i
Express
express27
Farr
far36od mumm30
Hallberg Rassy
J Boats
j105 j109 j120 j122 j133
Jeanneau
jod35 melody sunfast32 sunfast3200 sunfast32i
Tartan
tartan10
Wauquiez
gladiateur
X Yachts
x332 xp33
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Re: Stus-List Solar charge controllers

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Look for ones with lots of reviews and read them.  Many say MPPT but are
not. Ones with lots of reviews often have a skilled person test its MPPT
functionality.
On Apr 27, 2016 7:20 PM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> Anyone have a good experience with an ebay or Amazon, el cheapo solar
> charge controller.  Particularly a MPPT type.  The price for the
> Morningstar is just a little prohibitive for what you get.
>
> Renogy Traker MPPT 20A with the accessory meter is cheaper than just the
> Morningstar 15A, MPPT ootion.  It is also only a little more expensive than
> the Victron BlueSolar 20A MPPT version.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
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Re: Stus-List Bow Roller

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Thanks, I'll start chasing him down.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The right guy is Allan Rheaume. He was active on the list few years ago
> and is very knowledgable about the 30 mk II. He was in the Lake Ontario
> area in 2010. He answered a lot of my questions when I was looking for a
> boat at the time.
>
> You should be able to find him easily.
>
> Bruno Lachance
> Becassine, 33 mkII
> New Richmond, Qc.
>
> Envoyé de mon iPad
>
> Le 26 avr. 2016 à 19:16, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> a écrit :
>
> Lorne:
>
> I'm not that Allan, but I can send you pictures of the bow roller I added
> to my boat.  Send me your email address.  trya...@alumni.usc.edu
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I found an article in the resource center.  It says to contact ...
>>
>> For more information - contact Allan.
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sailboatowners.com_c-2Dc_sendmail.tpl-3Fcid-3D283=CwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=Fmuao6MiAiSGxm6FncNWwxcZenn-GkK9BZek2ubeIgE=NxxN4lNjhY4OO-d9zUdfPj6wg4rF0H--dLC2zj0sQP8=>
>>
>> It does not work.  Anyone know who Allan is and how to get a hold of
>> him?  I like his bow roller setup on a Mk30II.  I don't have one and really
>> want a roller setup.
>>
>> Lorne Serpa
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Stus-List C resource Center, broken link

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I found an article in the resource center.  It says to contact ...

For more information - contact Allan.


It does not work.  Anyone know who Allan is and how to get a hold of him?
I like his bow roller setup on a Mk30II.  I don't have one and really want
a roller setup.

Lorne Serpa
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Stus-List First post. Ice box size and refrigerator install

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Hello everyone. I am in the process of purchasing a 1988 C 30 Mark 2. The
boat is in DC and I looked at it and all checked out well visually. I need
to have a survey done still. However I would like to know more information
about converting the ice box to a refrigerator / freezer combo. Since I
live in New Mexico I cannot physically measure the Box. Does anyone have
the dimensions of the ice box, its volume and perhaps if you have a
refrigeration system which system you ordered. I plan to liveaboard mine
for one year and increase my sailing experience. Thank you for your help
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