Stus-List Going all pex

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I replaced all of my freshwater plumbing with Whale Systems 15mm tubing.  I 
chose Whale because their literature stated that their system was meant to be 
installed in places that moved - boats, RV's and that their connectors were 
meant to have 90° curves right out of a connector.  The original Grey polybutal 
had developed cracks which let in air...keeping water from making it to the 
pump.The Whale system worked ok...I did have some issues sorting some 
connectors.   While replacing the hoses I took the opportunity to pull the 
water tanks, replace the fill and overflow hoses.  Also rebuilt the manifold.  
Project turned out great :-)$0.02Spencer Johnson ..former owner84 LF 38 #165  
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Stus-List Good used parts looking for new home!

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   - Cleaning out garage!  Found some miscellaneous items.  If anybody is 
interested I cansupply pictures.  Free to new ownerjust gotta pay 
shipping...   
Parts are from a 1984 LF38...left over from upgrades.  :-)  Boat always kept in 
fresh water   
Edson Pedestal - P/N C-100 - should have most/all parts.  No compass for the 
top.  Some paint chips on the bottom.  Have idler sheaves (in pretty good 
shape, just some surface rust on the top)   
Edson radar mast pole topper with optional antenna arm.   
Datamarine wind transducer for masthead.   
Bronze stuffing box for 1 1/8" prop shaft.   
Any questions, contact me offline...offer good for 3 weeks.   
Spencer Johnson 84 LF38 #165 "Alegria"Racine WI, Waukegan IL
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Stus-List LF 38 For Sale

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Due to my medical issues I am sad to part with Alegria...1984 Landfall 38 
(#165) that i have owned since 2006.  Always sailed in fresh water - Lake 
Michigan - fairly well maintained.  Some pics below.  Price - $42,000.  Contact 
me off list if interested.  Looking for a younger sailor that will continue the 
quality tradition.   
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-aGegqRxjvCR7oyXWLXV_5pUreh6nnMaSpencer 
Johnson 84 LF 38 "Alegria"  #165On the hard in Waukegan, IL:-(Sent from my 
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Stus-List Re: Water Heater?'s

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4 years old???   Mine is probably original vintage 1984!!!  6 gal Raritan.Time 
for a different brand...Spencer Johnson 84 LF 38 "Alegria "Racine, WISent from 
my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: nausetbeach--- via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/10/22  10:19 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: 'Stus-List' 
 Cc: nausetbe...@optonline.net Subject: Stus-List Water 
Heater?'s My 4 yr old water heater started leaking as I was filling it for the 
first time this year.  It is a 6 gal. Seaward [Whale] unit and only connected 
to the engine coolant circuit [no A/C on board, just 12 V]   Planning to 
replace it with the same unit as that “should” be the easiest / quickest. Two 
questions for the group:  1] The heater comes in galvanized steel and white 
epoxy versions.  The latter is more $ but is it worth it from a corrosion or 
other standpoint?   It is not visible so aesthetics are not important.  2]  
Found both units on Amazon for less than Defender and other distributors.  Has 
anyone bought parts / equipment from Amazon Marine?  Usually Amazon delivers 
when they indicate, but I ordered some ink for a home printer and it still has 
not been delivered after 8 weeks.   Thanks,Brian Ps – Very sad news about Rob.  
Amazing how a “simple” fall can cause a cascade of events.  Not much comfort, 
but at least it was tangentially boating related…    

Stus-List Re: Rudder Post Grease Cup.

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Replace the cup with a hose with a 1/4" fitting to replace the cup and a zero 
fitting on the other end...problem fixed permanently.   I cleaned the old hole 
with acetone and used SixTen epoxy as a thread compound.   Fill the hose with 
grease first.   A farm or construction implement dealer can male up the hose 
and fittings easily and cheaply.$0.02Spencer Johnson 84 LF38Racine, WISent from 
my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 Date: 4/25/22  12:25 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Joel Delamirande  
Subject: Stus-List Re: Rudder Post Grease Cup. Chuck or Charlie Nelson On Mon, 
Apr 25, 2022 at 11:46 AM John McCrea via CnC-List  
wrote:Hello all. I need to replace the grease cup on my rudder post. All rusted 
up and no longer functional. Does anyone have a source for them? Thanks! John 
McCreaTalisman1979 36-1Mystic, CT 06355-- Joel Delamirande
www.jdroofing.ca

Stus-List Re: Rudder issues

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On my LF 38 there were no rudder 'bushings', only a fiberglass shaft and upper 
collarpretty clean and easy.  Cleaned old grease with a 3M drill attachment 
that fit perfectly and cleaned with some kerosene.    Swabbed up the shaft and 
tube with white lithium waterproof lube...replaced lube cap (???) On back of 
shaft tube with 5' hosesee pics on prior email.Spencer Johnson 84 LF 38 
"Alegria" #165Racine, WI.  ... Waukegan, ILSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy 
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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

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Whatta sad dayto me he was the heart and soul of Garhauer...I would thought 
he was an owner...Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Graham Collins via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/25/21  6:36 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: David Risch via 
CnC-List  Cc: Graham Collins 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Bow Repair 
I believe Guido has passed on recently (Jan 2021, Covid-19) but
  hopefully his spirit lives on at Gauhauer Marine.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11
On 2021-09-25 5:59 p.m., David Risch
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  
I was gonna say what Nathan said...never mind.

  
  

  
Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. 

  
  
  From: Dennis
  C. via CnC-List 
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:01:52 PM
  To: Stus-List 
  Cc: Dennis C. 
  Subject: Stus-List Re: Bow Repair
 
  
  

  If you can't find a local shop, send the thing to Guido
at Garhauer Marine.  He will duplicate it.  Does
excellent work.
  -- 
  
Dennis C.
  Touche' 35-1 #83
  Mandeville, LA

  

  
  
  
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Stus-List Re: Steering cable

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The first time I had to replace the steering cable I was advised to use a coat 
hanger with a loop at the end and bent at a 90° angle to use as a guide .  
Worked pretty well.  Note that the cables cross in the pedestal.Spencer 
Johnson84 LF 38 'Alegria "Racine, WISent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy 
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Stus-List Re: Stuffing Box

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I've had a PSS shafted, and a DRY bilge for 10 years...think it is 
great.Spencer Johnson 84 LF38Racine, WISent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy 
smartphone
 Original message From: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/12/21  8:35 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Doug Mountjoy  Subject: 
Stus-List Re: Stuffing Box Why would you want to? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE 
DeviceDoug MountjoyPort Orchard YCPort Orchard,  WAsv Rebecca Leah1988 C LF39 
 Original message From: Stephen Thorne via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/12/21  5:43 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stephen Thorne  Subject: 
Stus-List Stuffing Box Folks my 1990 34+ has the PSS shaft seal system.  I want 
to swap it out for a traditional stuffing box and am looking for advise on 
which stuffing box manufacturers to look into.  My prop shaft is 1 &1/8” which 
may be a challenge finding a suitable match but hopefully not a big deal.Thank 
youStephen Thorne34+ Deja Vu’770.722.2848
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Stus-List Re: Wheel Drive Autopilot

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Another alternative is to send the drive unit to Raymarine.  $250 to fix any 
problem.  I've done it a few timespretty much need to doit every other 
year my LF38 is at/over the wheel pilot maximum displacement of 16,500 
lbsSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List 
 Date: 6/25/21  8:07 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Peter Cowenhoven  Subject: 
Stus-List Re: Wheel Drive Autopilot Thanks so much Joe.  Didn't know there was 
a belt on the 4000.  Does it go around the whole wheel assembly?  It's hidden 
nicely.I will probably do as you say and buy a new drive unit and see if that 
works.Sent from Yahoo Mail on AndroidOn Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:58 PM, Della 
Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:   

 
 




I have an old AH-4000. If it starts doing what you describe the belt may be 
slipping or the pin that holds the drive gear is going. I have rebuilt my drive 
many times and my current unit is a combination of 3 or 4 old ones I have 
scavenged
 over the years. 
You can try and fix it or get a new drive for around $600 or so. It will work 
fine with the AH-4000 computer. The CPT is a much stronger unit, but keep in 
mind in both cases the weight of the boat is being used as a proxy for how hard 
the
 boat is to steer. These things are really only loosely related at best. An 
AH-4000 has plenty more power than needed to steer a freighter, it isn’t 
physically hard to steer a big ship. The issue would be the steering algorithms 
would be way off.
 
If your boat is hard for YOU to steer, Otto will have a hard time too. After 
fixing or replacing your drive I would look to getting the boat to balance. 
All that said, the AH-4000 is hopeless in a big following sea. 
   
Joe 
Coquina 
C 35 MK I 
   
   

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Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:18 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Peter Cowenhoven 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Wheel Drive Autopilot 

   
Does anyone have any experience with the CPT belt driven vs the old Autohelm 
4000?  Does the CPT have more turning force? 

   


I've got the old 4000 and many times it doesn't turn the wheel and just clicks. 
 Certainly when there's a lot weather helm there's no chance. 


   


I'm also wondering if a new 4000 drive unit would be able to hold the force of 
the wheel better. 


   


I see the 4000 or the new EV 1000 is rated st 16,500 and I'm at about 13,500 
while the CPT is rated to 40,000. 


   


Thanks in advance for any intel or thoughts on this. 

   


Best, 


   


Peter 


   


84 Landfall 35 


Westbrook, CT 


   

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Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

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I have a LF38, 1984.i payaround 1,400 annually. For insurance for a 70,000 
agreed value full coverage policy.  Sounds kinda extravagant but I have waaay 
more than that invested.  Only self survey required.  Been with National Marine 
Underwriters since 2006.  No claims ever.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy 
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Stus-List Re: Auto pilot???

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You can send it to Raymarine for service.they can give you a quote for a 
fix.  I've use them every few years to fix my Wheel Pilot X5.  They have a flat 
fee repair.Spencer Johnson 84 LF 38 Alegria #165Racine, WISent from my Verizon, 
Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
 Date: 4/19/21  11:37 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Peter Kirkwood , Fred 
Hazzard  Subject: Stus-List Re: Auto pilot??? I am in need 
of someone to repair the brain of my st 6000 autopilot. Any suggestions?Fred 
Hazzard S/V Fury C 44Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 19, 2021, at 8:38 AM, Peter 
Kirkwood via CnC-List  wrote:Agree.  Went with the 
hydraulic ram on my 38 and it is excellent and hasn’t been overpowered yet in 
any conditions On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 11:35 AM Don Marlin via CnC-List 
 wrote:My 40 had a wheel pilot when I bought it. 
(ST4000+ and the wheel ring)It was only useful for motoring in calm seas.The 
mechanism would get overpowered in anything else and then it would just quit 
trying.I viewed it as a safety item and so I have since upgraded to a hydraulic 
ram on the quadrant and it works much better.I left the electronics alone 
(ST4000+) so that will need to be upgraded when the budget allows.For now it is 
reliable in the sense the mechanics don't get overpowered.If you are starting 
from scratch I would find a way to install a below decks AP.On Mon, Apr 19, 
2021 at 11:11 AM Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List  wrote:I am 
looking for suggestions on an auto pilot for our 40-2. I don't think the 
Raymarine wheel pilot will work good enough. Anybody got suggestions on either 
s wheel mount or a quadrant mount. What do you use???  Also I would like to be 
able to connect to my B Zues3 down the line.  Thanks for any input. 
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Stus-List Removing a C 34 fuel tank

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Hey 
Donhttps://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1MegWYy7_Wg5VswMZZhUYiFGDPCL6O_JNOn
 a LF38 it is not fun.   If the link works you have an idea of what I am going 
thru right now.   On the top of the tank there should be a label for Florida 
Marine Tanks with a stamped model numbermine is FMT-32-CC  I never knew 
it was there until my yard got my tank out...after t months if workmuch of 
it a learning experience at my $$$ expense.  They destroyed the label by 
hacking holes in the top of the tank.   THANKFULLY  Rainy Days LF38 had a pic 
of their label and FMT was able to find the original blue prints to fabricate a 
new tank.  I upgraded from a .09 inch aluminum thickness to 3/16 inch...the 
minimum nowadays is 1/8 inch.  No more foam under these tanks!If this looks 
like it might apply to you and you would like to speak with mecontact me 
directly. Spencer Johnson 84LF38 "Alegria "Racine WI/Mount Prospect IL___

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Re: Stus-List 37+ Cruising Speed

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84 LF38 came with a 4 cylinder 27 hp Westerbeke.  At 3000 hours she is running 
perfectly.  At 2800 rpm I do about 6.2 knots. Max rpm is 3300at that point 
I have some unburnt fuel...leaves a moustache on my stern.  Seahawk Autostream 
16" feathering prop.Spencer Johnson Waukegan, IL / Racine, WI___

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Stus-List Fuel Tank replacements

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My tank had a label in the top for Florida Marine Tanks with a stamped model 
# mine was FMT-32-CC.  They found the original drawings.  6-8 weeks to have 
it made and shipped.  Full payment up front.  Mine was $586 + $200 to epoxy 
coat + shipping of about%100.  Upgraded from 1/8 inch to 3/16 inch aluminum.  
Not so much fun this year..Spencer Johnson 84 LF38Waukegan IL___

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Re: Stus-List Lifting an outboard

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I have the Garhauer outboard lifting arm for my 8 HP 2 cycle outboard.  Works 
great!  Using a handy Billy block n tackle off the boom is a good alternative.  
Also useful for lifting the dinghy onto the foredeck3/6 to one 
purchaseSpencer Johnson 84 LF38 "Alegria " #165...on the hard in Waukegan, 
IL waiting on a new fuel tank... ___

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Re: Stus-List Refinishing cabin floor

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I second Dave's experience "I did mine last winter and used a standard floor 
polyurethane: Minwax Fast Drying Polyurethane Satin. ?So far, so good. ?Dave"I 
did have a perceived problem with the floor being slipperynot underfoot but 
with a cooler and rugs sliding around.  So I laid on a coat of Minwax, 
sprinkled ground walnut shells lightly on the wet minwax, and then, when dry, 
put another coat of minwax down... basically because it was a tad too rugged.   
 Nowthis hasn't been tested yet and I am not sure I like the way it looks 
but so much for percieved problems. Spencer Johnson84 LF38 "Alegria " #165On 
the hard in Waukegan.. with a leaking fuel tank :-(___

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Stus-List R e: Shift Lever. DIY

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I replaced my pedestal with a new Edson Vision II.  The old pedestal is in the 
garage taking up space...with most of the pieces.  Anybody who needs 
partsor better yet wants it all...is most welcome.  Separate shift/throttle 
levers.Spencer Johnson 84 LF38 "Alegria"  #165Mount Prospect, IL___

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Re: Stus-List loosing water

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Alan.How bout doing a pressure test of the cooling system.   Had a similar 
problem on Alegriaevery winter, and only in the winter,  coolant would 
drain out from the reservoir.   The yard pressure tested my system and found a 
leak in the water pump and one hose needed tightening.   Also don't forget to 
bleed the coolant system by loosening the highest hosefor me it was the 
hose going to the hot water heaterwith the engine runninguntil it stops 
hissing and coolant appears.  This is also the fix for the hot water heater low 
temp cause the hot coolant is not circulating.$0.03Spencer Johnson84 LF 38 
"Alegria" #165Westerbeke 27Racine, WI ...someday... fuel tank leak :-(___

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Re: Stus-List LF38 Fuel Tank Replacement

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Thanks for all the options...knowing them is half the battle.  I checked with 
the Yard ... they suggested removing all fuel and trying a pressure test at no 
more than 7psi.  Off to get half a dozen 5 gallon Jerry cans :-(Spencer Johnson___

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Stus-List LF38 Fuel Tank Replacement

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Allwhen tensioning the steering cable.   It looks like the tank is sitting 
in a pool of dieselI an bummed.   It is the original aluminum tank, but the 
boat has only been in fresh water - Lake Michigan - so I had though I was safe 
from corrosion.  Access to the tank is very limitedthe engine and a 
retaining stringer would probably need to be cut outat least that is what 
Wally on Stella Blue did.  I cannot think of other optionsand am open to 
ideas/suggestions.  Cannot launch it as is...Spencer Johnson 84 LF38 "Alegria" 
#165Waukegan, IL / Racine, WI___

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Re: Stus-List 35 MkII Rudder Removal

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Completion Composits in Ontario rebuilt my rudder and did a great job.  It was 
about 325lbs when I removed it and 150lbs after rebuild.  It was wet inside and 
the bottom 10"+ was solid fiberglass.  I was concerned about the 
deteriorization of the shaft.  Turns out it was in good shape.  There is a 
video on their website on the rebuild process.  Beats the heck out of removing 
the rudder every winter and keeping it in my garage to drainSpencer Johnson 
84 LF 38 "Alegria "  #165Waukegan, IL / Racine, WI___

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Re: Stus-List Rudder post zerk fitting

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When I had the rudder out I cleaned up the hole where the grease cap was, had a 
5' 1/4" hydraulic hose made up by a local tractor service shop that had a 
fitting to go in the rudder post and a zero at the other end.  I used Wests 
6/10 epoxy on the rudder post threads to just hand tight.  I ran the hose to 
under the shelf in the starboard laserette (the hatch with engine access) and 
mounted it on some 1/2" plywood using a copper pipe hanger.  Took a bit of 
grease to fill the hosebut works great.  Much easier than that darn grease 
cap.If the existing hole is really stripped, maybe the fitting next size up 
would just cut the threads into the rudder tube.  I would recommend the grease 
hose upgrade...I think the hose they made up for me costs less than $15 with 
crimped on fittings...He did it while I waitedcool stuff!Spencer Johnson 84 
LF38 "Alegria"  #165Waukegan, IL / Racine,  WI___

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Stus-List Replacement feathering prop

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Josh.some really smart prior owner installed a Seahawk Autostream 
feathering prop on my LF38.  Stainless steel. Very strong, great in 
reverseand has never needed rebuilding.  It has to be at least 20 years 
old...and probably older.   For service I use a grease gun once a year and 
replace O rings every 2 years.Now, I am in fresh water and average motoring 100 
hours / year...  $0.02Spencer Johnson 84 LF 38 "Alegria"On the hard in 
Waukegan,  IL___

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Stus-List Cabin sole resurfacing

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I'm a little late for this thread...but I have two sections of my cabin sole in 
the kitchen with wet polyurethane .  My cabin sole wasn't too bad for 35 years 
of service but had a few dings and scratches... an is a good winter project.  
I'm using Minwax fast drying Polyuruthane matte finish.  4 hour drying time 
means 3 coats per day.  I gave it a fair sanding with 120 followed by 220 being 
careful not to get to bare wood.  I did this a few years agoit looks great, 
but , was pretty slipperyrugs would not stay in place and when healing 
under sail stuff slid all over.This time I have added crushed walnut shells to 
the last coat of Polyuruthane as a non skid.   I did find one interesting post 
that said to use 3/4" masking tape over the holly so as not to have brown 
specks showing up.  Getting the right ratio of walnut to Polyuruthane took some 
testingI found that 1.5 teaspoons walnut to 4 oz. Polyuruthane seemed to 
work.  The final problem is how to keep the crushed walnuts suspended long 
enough to get enough on the brush.   We'll see...Spencer Johnson 84 LF38 
"Alegria"Racine/Waukegan___

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Stus-List 34 Rudder shaft bearing

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I had a similar problem with water pooling around the rudder shaft bearing.  
When I went to upgrade the starting pedestal (Edson Vision II) I found that the 
cockpit sole was water saturated and delaminated.   The solution was to cut out 
a 2' x 2.5' section and replace it with marine plywood that was vacuum bagged 
in place.  This includes reinstalling the top rudder bearing and refinishing 
the whole cockpit sole with non skid.  The yard did the work...For about 
$3,600.  They did a great jobone that really needed to be done.  No more 
pooling around the post.  And the pedestal is beautiful :-)Spencer Johnson 84 
LF 38 "Alegria"Summer- Racine. WIWinter- Waukegan, IL___

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Stus-List Motorsailing

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I have motorsailed quite a bit when winds are light or contrary and find that 
the motion of the boat is calmed and that I usually gain at least half a 
knotnot to mention that fuel consumption decreases.  I once crossed Lake 
Michigan -12 hours- motor sailing with a 6 knot breeze off my stern...and the 
fuel gauge never moved.  The sails stayed full...speed was 6.2 k.Life was 
good...Spencer Johnson 84 LF 38 "Alegria"Racine,  WI___

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Re: Stus-List wiring advice

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Installed a Water Witch switch AND Bilge Counter a few years ago so I know if I 
have a leak that needs attention.  A great product.  I also installed a manual 
bilge switch in the bilge just beneath the sole to assist in getting the bilge 
dry.Spencer Johnson 84 Lf 38 "Alegria "Racine,  wi
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 1Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:16:25 +From: "Hoyt, Mike" 
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<169e312f80b4c044be2dc1780a7de72f50a...@hfxexc11.impgroup.com>Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset="utf-8"I second Water Witch.  We switched to that 4 seasons 
ago and it has worked perfectly.The only thing to watch out for is wet slime 
buildup on the switch will cause it to be fooled and run.  Quick wipe off and 
good for several more months. Installation is simpler than a traditional float 
switch and it is not constantly testing like an automatic bilge 
pump.MikePersistenceHalifax, NSFrom: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN via 
CnC-ListSent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 8:48 PMTo: C: ALAN BERGENSubject: 
Re: Stus-List Wiring adviceI have been using an electronic switch (Water 
Witch), instead of a float switch, for more than five years, after two float 
switches failed. Here's the link for Defender Industries: 
https://search.defender.com/?expression=Water%20WitchAlan Bergen35 Mk III 
ThirstyRose City YCPortland, OROn Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:53 PM Shawn Wright via 
CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:I might 
have to check these out. One of my Rule switches is flaky, or there is a bad 
connection somewhere down there. As it's the secondary pump, I've ignored it 
for now, but I plan to tackle it again before our long summer trip in a few 
weeks. I'd love to get a switch that will activate earlier so I can have less 
water down there, and keep it below the lowest keel stud.--Shawn 
wrightshawngwri...@gmail.comS/V Callisto, 1974 
C 
35https://www.facebook.com/SVCallistoOn
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mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:Another vote for 
the Ultra Safety Systems bilge switches. They are designed with the common (3 
way) connections inside the switch. That is, there are separate wires for the 
manual supply, automatic supply and switched power to the pump. The negative 
side also runs through the pump. Each wire comes with an adhesive heat shrink 
butt connector.No need to join the manual supply, switched supply and pump 
positive in a 3 way connection.Dennis C.Touch? 35-1 #83Mandeville, LASent from 
my iPhoneOn Jul 9, 2019, at 3:46 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:I have two 
questions related to the correct way of doing wiring in a wet area (bilge) of 
the boat.1.  In the process of wiring in my new high water alarm, I found it 
convenient to split an existing always hot red wire in the bilge area to run 
both the bilge alarm and the emergency bilge pump switch.  I had some 3 way 
fittings from Defender (below) that I have used before which have crimp/heat 
shrink attachment ports.  After connecting them I realized that the center part 
of the fitting is actually not insulated.  This seemed like a bad idea, 
especially for a potentially wet area like the bilge.  I am confused by the 
logic of a sealed connector that has an unsealed junction exposed.   In the 
past I used a larger crimp/shrink butt connector and stuck two wires into one 
end and now that seems like a better solution.<2024633WY121.jpg>2. There is 
also an open connector block for all the mast wiring in the same area of the 
bilge, so high water would get to that area at a similar time as the alarm or 
emergency switch.  So is that considered an OK way to set up mast wiring in a 
wet area?Thanks- DaveS/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, 

Stus-List Jib Halyard Length for a 37+?

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Cajun Ropes has always had good measurements for most C& C lines..AND they have 
great service.  I like that they put Flemish Loops in the bitter end making it 
real convenient for winter messenger lines.Spencer Johnson84 LF 38 "Alegria"  
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Greetings Camille and welcome to the list!  My LF38 has not had your issue. 
But. When I upgraded the steering pedestal we found that the cockpit sole had 
completely desalinated, so, we had about a 2'x3' piece of marine plywood vacuum 
sealed with fiberglass resin and new holes drilled, with edges sealed,  for the 
pedestal and rudder post.  In retrospect I had noticed a puddle of rainwater 
accumulating around the rudder post.  It was about a $3,500 repair but needed 
to be done.The grease cap is on the aft side of the lower rudder.  I replaced 
it with a grease fitting on a 5' hose leading to a bracket under the strbd 
laserette.  I add a squeeze once a year.  BTW, I've removed and replaced the 
rudder about 6 times.  I finally had it rebuilt by competition composites in 
Ottawa.  Now it is only 150lbs instead of 300 :-oGood luck, Camille!Spencer 
Johnson 84 LF 38 "Alegria " #165Racine, WI___

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Stus-List Landfall 38 Genoa Sheets

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My LF 38 sheets are 60' long each.  Alegria came with oversize sheets.9/16" 
or 5/8".  Very soft with a good 'hand'    I think it was Sampson rope that was 
khaki colored to match manilla line on tall ships.  The size is way overkill, 
but. Really good for old hands.Spencer Johnson C LF 38 "Alegria " # 
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Stus-List Broken shift cable

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Might as well change the throttle cable too.not a hard task, but, as long 
as you have to dissemble the binnacle...These may be original cables...I did it 
on my LF38.  The cables ran up thru the ss binnacle supports.  Good 
luck!Spencer Johnson '84 LF38 "Alegria" #165Racine, WI / Mount Prospect,  IL___

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Stus-List Epoxy or not

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I purchased Alegria in 2006.  Th teak was in and shapebut could have been 
lots worse.  I sanded to fresh teak, applied 3 coats of Cetol and 2 to coats of 
clear per their instructions.  Going on 12 years later with only a scotchbright 
ruff up and cleaning.I have a few dings to clean up, but, it is basically 
holding up well.  Tapeing the handrails is a bit of a pain but they look great. 
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Stus-List Subject: Re: Powder coating steering pedestal - pitfalls?

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I replaced my pedestal with an Edson Vision Series...so the old one is sitting 
in the garage.  It's in pretty good shape.  If it could find a happy home my 
wife would be grateful ;-)Spencer Johnson '84 LF 38 "Alegria"  #165Mount 
Prospect,  IL___

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Stus-List Garhauer traveler

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Sent Guido my old traveler...he matched up all the screw holes...all fit 
perfectly.  I did have to get new machine screws cut down with my dremel 
cut-off wheel.  The car was modified to fit in the existing traveler track.
Spencer Johnson 84 LF 38 "ALEGRIA"RACINE, WI___

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Stus-List Diesel addative

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I have used Howes Meaner Power Cleaner ever since I got water added to the fuel 
while doind a pumpout during a fill-up.  The Racor got all the water so adding 
this made me feel better.  No bad issues so farand that was 2 years ago.  I 
am also using this as a winter fuel stabilizerand it seems like it does a 
bunch of other good things. 
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Stus-List Toe rail leaks

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Haven't had toe rail leaks that I know ofbut did remove the whole backstage 
chocolate.  It was leaking into the bilge.  Bedded around the deck with butyl 
tape years ago.  The deck opening was pretty generous.    Bone dry since.  The 
butyl just adheres well and remains supple.  Spencer johnson '84 Landfall 38 
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Stus-List Keel bolt torque w/multiplier

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I was seeking a more efficient way to torque the keel bolts and found a 
multiplier on Amazon for $60...I thought it might be worth a try.   It multiies 
59:1.  So, for 300 ft lbs that MIGHT men about 5 gr8 lbs.  I did have to 
purchase some adapting sockets to match it's 1" drive,  but still cheaper than 
renting or having the yard doitThis multiplier kit was really intended for 
truck tires.  It does not have a gauge. So, am I full of beans???  Am I fooling 
myself that this is doing what I want it to do?  I suppose I will know more 
when Alegria gets pulled in a few weeks..Thoughts?
Torque Multiplier Heavy-Duty Lug Wrench Replaces 1" Air Impact - WARRANTY 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H99Y556/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_BzSXzbRA2PF8T
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Stus-List C 34 Moisture in rudder

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Just had my rudder rebuilt by Competition Composites in Ontario.  I have pics 
of the interior and shaft.  I had been removing the rudder every winter due to 
the water in the rudderso it didn't freeze. .. kept it in the heated 
garage...and let it drain a cup or more of black-brown ooze.   Wasn't a big 
deal to remove and replace it just a bit of a PITA with the quadrant and 
key.  No more removal and replacement cost about $5k with shipping (350 lbs 
to ship it to Ontariowaiting to see if it is much lighter shipping back...)
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Re: Stus-List Fresh Water Plumbing

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Hi Edd...I replaced all my freshwater tubing, galley fawcet, water tank fill 
and vent hoses on Alegria last winter.  I used Whale systems 15mm tubing in red 
and blue.  This entailed pulling all three water tanks (so as long as I had 
them out the fill and vent hoses seemed logical).  I also added a air tank and 
rebuilt the manifold.  For that I used PVC connectors and valves... that worked 
best to eliminate air lesks.The biggest problem was finding the precise 
connectors to work everywhere...BSP, tapered pipe, 3/4" at the water 
heater.But, all is working now.  Quite a project.Spencer Johnson '84 LF38 
Alegria #165 Racine, WI 

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Stus-List EV 100 Autopilot

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Before I replaced my pedestal with a Vision series I had the ST60 control head 
mounted on a single instrument pod on an arm (wired thru the guard post and 
arm...all internal) that I could turn 180 degreesbest if both 
worlds.$0.02Spencer Johnson84 LF38 "Alegria " #165Racine WI 

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Stus-List Cabin LED Lights

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Hi Jerry...those are the Perko, combo ac/DC lights? I could not find suitable 
replacements..but..did find ba bases with a 2 prong adaptor for a small LED 
circuit board that had both red and white lights.  Works perfectly.  Turn it 
on...it is red.  Turn it off an Back on...it is white :-) .   Don't remember 
which LED company it came from...marinebeam...Superbright...Hope this 
helps...Spencer Johnson '84 LF38 Alegria #165Racine WI (now just south of 
Frankfort MI starting the trip home. .)

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Stus-List 2 prong DC outlet

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Hi Mark...Edson has a nice M-F 2 prong connector that they use for a compass 
connection.   Nicely constructed.Spencer Johnson 84 Landfall 38 "Alegria" 
#165Racine WI

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Stus-List Older C Bow Navigational lights

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Jeff & Andrew...I replaced all of my Nav lights with Hella NaviLED-pro Pro 
lights.  Crystal clear bezel, relatively easy direct replacement,  completely 
sealed, 2m leas wire.   Bright and similar to existing lights.  Slightly 
largerI had ss backing plates cut then drilled/tapped mounting screws.  No 
compromises.Spencer Johnson'84 LF 38 "Alegria " #165Racine,  WI 

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Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

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Bill...saw you...in all probability...return from a race last year just before 
labor day last year.   Been thru Pentwater twice in the last couple of 
yearswe really like Snug Harbor.  Interested in a rendezvous!Spencer & 
Martha Johnson 84 Landfall 38 "Alegria"Winters in WaukeganSummers in 
Racine, WI


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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 123, Issue 47

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   1.  Optimus Prime (Tom Buscaglia)
   2. Re:  Optimus Prime (Martin DeYoung)
   3. Re:  West System Epoxy & resin (Graham Collins)
   4.  37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring
  (Edd Schillay)
   5. Re:  Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous (Bill Coleman)
   6. Re:  Boom fittings for reefing attachments (Rjcasciato)


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Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:56:44 -0700
From: Tom Buscaglia 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Optimus Prime
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Martin

Just curious, do you get to work with Optimus Prime?

Tom B

At 12:45 PM 4/8/2016, you wrote:
>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 18:52:19 +
>From: Martin DeYoung 
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>Subject: Re: Stus-List West System Epoxy & resin
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>BTW, here at the transformer factory we commonly store epoxies in 
>the freezer to extend the shelf life.  Some of our exotic very high 
>temp epoxies (use in aircraft propulsion) are shipped and stored at -40C.
>
>We have been using warm water to eliminate the crystals in epoxy 
>hardener since 1972.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Martin

Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
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From: Martin DeYoung 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Optimus Prime
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Yes, he's in shipping.

Best regards,

Martin

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Buscaglia via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:57 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Optimus Prime

Martin

Just curious, do you get to work with Optimus Prime?

Tom B

At 12:45 PM 4/8/2016, you wrote:

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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 18:52:19 +
From: Martin DeYoung >
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>
Subject: Re: Stus-List West System Epoxy & resin
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BTW, here at the transformer factory we commonly store epoxies in the freezer 
to extend the shelf life.  Some of our exotic very high temp epoxies (use in 
aircraft propulsion) are shipped and stored at -40C.

We have been using warm water to eliminate the crystals in epoxy hardener since 
1972.

Best regards,

Martin

Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
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Subject: Re: Stus-List West System Epoxy & resin
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Hi Danny
If the resin comes out milky you need to warm it up to de-crystalize 
it.  A bucket of very hot water will do the trick nicely, plop the can 
into it and let it sit a half hour.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2016-04-08 3:27 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List wrote:
> I left my west system epoxy out in the shed all winter.
> would the sub freezing temps have had any ill 

Stus-List To foam or not to foam

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

Hi FredI have sailed in 30k winds with just a furled jibwonderful, 
comfortable sailing.  A partial jib alone is a great sail planas long as 
you don't need to point and and the mast isn't pumpingthe mainsail supports 
the mast...if needed--==>Spencer1894 Landfall 38 "Alegria"


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   2. Re:  To foam or not to foam... (wwadjo...@aol.com)
   3. Re:  To foam or not to foam... (Robert Boyer)
   4. Re:  To foam or not to foam... (jtsails)
   5. Re:  West coast rendezvous (Patrick Davin)
   6. Re:  To foam or not to foam... (Marek Dziedzic)
   7. Re:  Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Russ & Melody)
  (Marek Dziedzic)


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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:13:10 -0400
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I too elected to get the rope.  The nice thing is that it is easily removed
and replaced/reduced/increased.  It is also more flexible so it will not
hold a shape and will articulate with the sail fabric betted.  Just my
observations and opinion.  I've had 1 new sails with foam,  an old sail
with rope and a new sail with rope.

The rope or the foam is designed to take up the belly of the sail when its
fuelled.  Without it the sail will act as though it is blown out while
close hulled.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Mar 17, 2016 12:32 PM, "Frederick G Street via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I?m going to be ordering a new furling 135% headsail for my LF38, and
> would like everyone?s input on whether or not to pay the extra $$$ for a
> foam luff.  In the past, I haven?t relied much on furling, knowing that
> regardless of the foam luff (or not), a furled sail?s shape isn?t going to
> be ideal.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> ? Fred
>
>
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:14:33 -0400
From: wwadjo...@aol.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...
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I have a UK tapedrive 144 with foam.? When furled it is smooth and clean right 
down to 100.? I can't speak to dacron.? But if done right it makes sense to me. 
Bill Walker 
CnC 36
Evening Star 
Pentwater, Mi 

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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:16:33 -0400
From: Robert Boyer 
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My foam luff never collapsed in 12 years of my use and the sail was 20 years 
old when I retired it.

Bob Boyer


Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer

> On Mar 17, 2016, at 4:58 PM, sthoma20--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> My sail maker sewed a piece of line into a pocket instead of using foam. His 
> thinking is that the line will never collapse. 
> 
> Steve Thomas
> C MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON
> 
>  Frederick G Street via CnC-List  wrote: 
> I?m going to be ordering a new furling 135% headsail for my LF38, and would 
> like everyone?s input on whether or not to pay the extra $$$ for a 

Stus-List Feathering props

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

Davidmy LF38 came with an AutoStream stainless feathering prop...I thank my 
PO every year.  I just add grease, change O rings, and never a problem.  
Forward and reverse thrust is superb.  I can get up to about 7+ 
knots...depending on waves and headwinds.Westerberg 27 Diesel.Spencer Johnson 
'84 LF38 "Alegria" #165

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Stus-List Mystery Coolant

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

I have a similar problem.every year / winter I loose engine coolant into 
the 'after bilge'.   All hoses replaced.  Still happens.  Haven't found the 
source of the leak yet.Any recommendations for coolant dyes?  Probably less 
than a quart, but never a drop during the sailing season. Spencer Johnson1984 
Landfall 38 'Alegria' =165Racine, WI ... in the summerMount Prospect .. in the 
winter

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Stus-List Anchor locker hinge attachment

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

Patrickwhen I purchased Alegria in 2006 the survey mentioned wetness in the 
anchor locker and cockpit seat hinges.  I replaced the anchor locker hinges 
with suncor ss hinges thru bolted and beded with butyl tape.  No more leaks.  
To dry them out I brought them home, drilled out the holes, and left them in 
the closing with the furnace...warm, dry, and ventelated. Spencer Johnson84 LF 
38 #165Racine,  WI


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Stus-List Cabin light florescent fixtures

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

SteveI have two of these available.  I replaced the stbd settee light with 
two led fixtures and a dimmer from sailorsSolutions.com .  One is in great 
shape.   The other had a switch problem.  Let me know if you are 
interested.Spencer Johnson '84 LF38 #165ALEGRIARacine,  WI / Mount Prospect,   
IL


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Stus-List Placement of control head

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

DaveI just replaced my pedestal with an Edson Vision seriesthus I have 
two pedestal 'arms' ... one with a Edson single pod (that can be swiveled 180 
degrees to be viewed/controlled  from the helm or cockpit ) that I used with a 
ST60 auto pilot control head, the other had a garmin GPS MAP 478 .Let me know 
if you are interested. ... contact me offline.  Does anybody need a replacement 
conventional pedestal...???Spencer Johnson '84 LF 38 "Alegria "

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Stus-List Water coming from somewhere

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Hi JoelI also have a LF38 and am having multiple issues with the fresh 
water system.   I know there is a leak in the port tank and the screw on access 
cover threads are not seating right.  I can see a small but steady trickle of 
water going into the bilge from that tank.  The center/v-berth tank and the 
stbd tank are okbut I have air leaks in the lines causing the pump to run 
on.  I did redo the manifold index the galley sink to have pvc ball valves and 
added a foot or so of clear tubing to be able to view the flowI see the air 
bubbles :-(AND, on the pressure side I have water leaking from the outside 
curve of the Grey tubing in some places.I forsee a winter project.
Spencer Johnson 1984 LF 38 "Alegria"Racine WI and Mount Prospect IL

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Stus-List LF38 dodger

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Hi Wally...dodger, bimini, connector, side panels clear  screens...and a ss 
hand hold.  On Lake Michigan the flies can impare a great day of sailing and us 
old folks-well, my wife, is very concerned with excess uv.  I had a nice sail 
with John Kretschmer_ from ft Lauderdale to Lunenburg NS...9 days..when we hit 
Canada...nothing but thunderstorms .. bot we were high and dry in his enclosure 
(47' Kaufman Quetzal).
Mount Prospect!  Your old home is close to Mount Prospect Public Library. 
..where we both work. ..are there lots of Bryant around?  Looking for a Tim 
that grew up on Lake St in Wilmette..
I am jealous that you have 'escaped' and appreciate Stella Blue's website lots. 
 Fair Winds !




Spencer -- What do you mean by a full enclosure?  Do you mean hard 
dodger, or just a new dodger designed to mate with a bimini and side 
panels?  I'm just curious, but wouldn't mind seeing pics when you're done.

PS.  You are in Mt Prospect IL?  I lived there as a child, at 121 N. 

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