Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting - Now Strobe Lights

2018-04-27 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
There are some tricolor lights with strobes in them. The only legal use I know 
of would be like shooting white flares, they would be last ditch efforts to not 
get run over. There is no legal routine use for them.
Joe
Coquina

Thread creep – we once laid out floating MOB strobes in a path from the marina 
to a reef so we could come back after dark and do a night dive. This was out in 
the Bahamas and we got reported as drug smugglers laying out a drop zone and 
the USCG showed up in a helicopter. I am down 50 feet underwater with my little 
flashlight looking at an octopus and all of a sudden it is bright as day LOL!

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting - Now Strobe Lights

Bill;

Rule 20 (both inshore and international) forbids displaying a light that could 
be confused with a light that is specified by the rules. So a strobe light that 
is white, blue, or yellow that flashes at 120 pulses per minute or more, or a 
yellow one flashing slowly, would not be legal. All these variants are 
specified nav lights for stuff like law enforcement, barges, tow vessels, 
seaplanes, WIGs or submarines.

Rule 36 in the international rules says you can make any light signal that 
cannot be confused with a navigation light, nor “embarrasses” another vessel, 
if you need to attract the attention of another vessel. But the rule prohibits 
the use of high intensity revolving lights or strobes.

Rule 36 on the inshore rules allows you to make any light signal to attract 
attention (with the same restrictions as international), but does not have the 
prohibition for revolving lights and strobes.

So if you are using your boat inside the Colregs line in US waters, a red or 
green strobe would be OK. If you are in Canada or outside the Colregs line in 
the US, No.

Someone else said the strobe would be a distress signal. Not So. It is not on 
the list of distress signals listed in the Colregs. There is a flashing light 
that the USCG has approved as a distress signal, but it flashes SOS in Morse 
code. There are also a range of spotlights that have an SOS flash mode, which 
would be legal under rules 20 and 36 since they cannot be confused with a 
navigation light. I do not believe that the flashing distress signal has been 
approved under SOLAS, so it might be questionable in international waters but 
you could make a case for it under rule 36.

And, of course, you could base your argument for using a strobe under rule 2, 
which requires you to do everything possible to avoid a collision… including 
violate the other rules of the Colregs.

Bottom line is that in most cases the strobe isn’t strictly legal, but I doubt 
that the USCG would write you a ticket or fail you on a safety inspection if 
you have one on the boat and don’t turn it on.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 10:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

One thing I am curious about, I removed a strobe from my boat when I bought it, 
as I thought it was illegal to use a strobe.
When is it kosher to flash a strobe, when you are going down?

Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA[animated_favicon1]

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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting - Now Strobe Lights

2018-04-26 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List 
Bill;

 

Rule 20 (both inshore and international) forbids displaying a light that could 
be confused with a light that is specified by the rules. So a strobe light that 
is white, blue, or yellow that flashes at 120 pulses per minute or more, or a 
yellow one flashing slowly, would not be legal. All these variants are 
specified nav lights for stuff like law enforcement, barges, tow vessels, 
seaplanes, WIGs or submarines.

 

Rule 36 in the international rules says you can make any light signal that 
cannot be confused with a navigation light, nor “embarrasses” another vessel, 
if you need to attract the attention of another vessel. But the rule prohibits 
the use of high intensity revolving lights or strobes.

 

Rule 36 on the inshore rules allows you to make any light signal to attract 
attention (with the same restrictions as international), but does not have the 
prohibition for revolving lights and strobes. 

 

So if you are using your boat inside the Colregs line in US waters, a red or 
green strobe would be OK. If you are in Canada or outside the Colregs line in 
the US, No.

 

Someone else said the strobe would be a distress signal. Not So. It is not on 
the list of distress signals listed in the Colregs. There is a flashing light 
that the USCG has approved as a distress signal, but it flashes SOS in Morse 
code. There are also a range of spotlights that have an SOS flash mode, which 
would be legal under rules 20 and 36 since they cannot be confused with a 
navigation light. I do not believe that the flashing distress signal has been 
approved under SOLAS, so it might be questionable in international waters but 
you could make a case for it under rule 36.

 

And, of course, you could base your argument for using a strobe under rule 2, 
which requires you to do everything possible to avoid a collision… including 
violate the other rules of the Colregs.

 

Bottom line is that in most cases the strobe isn’t strictly legal, but I doubt 
that the USCG would write you a ticket or fail you on a safety inspection if 
you have one on the boat and don’t turn it on.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 10:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

 

One thing I am curious about, I removed a strobe from my boat when I bought it, 
as I thought it was illegal to use a strobe.

When is it kosher to flash a strobe, when you are going down?

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

 

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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List 
Strobe is for signaling Mayday.  Same as a flare.


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 Original message From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 Date: 4/25/18  10:05 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List LED cabin lighting 




I was just looking at those!

I see when you look at the one you bought, one of the Pix has an
X through their $20 more expensive tri color light they sell, as though they
are trashing their own product.  I am just about to replace a tall incandescent
tricolor/anchor, but it has four wires. 

One thing I am curious about, I removed a strobe from my boat
when I bought it, as I thought it was illegal to use a strobe.

When is it kosher to flash a strobe, when you are going down?

 



Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA



 





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Cc: Chuck S

Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting





 

Got my replacement LEDs this year from MarineBeam also. Nice
build and packaging. 

I'll be trying out their new two wire Tricolor/anchor/strobe this season and a
steaming/decklight combo too.







On April 25, 2018 at 4:27 PM
Ken Heaton via CnC-List  wrote:



Hi Charlie,



 





I bought the following from Marine Beam and just put them
into the existing lights.  There are two types of retrofit LED's I used,
one type is just Warm White, the other switches between Red and Warm
White.  Absolutely no changes to the existing lights required, no wiring
changes either, just put them in and they work  Very nice light form them
too.





 







23-LED CONSTELLATION MATRIX FOR DOME LIGHTS (UN-DOME-23-WW)





SKU: BA-1156-23X-WW





* Base Type:  Single-Contact (BA15s)







 





https://store.marinebeam.com/23-led-constellation-matrix-for-dome-lights-un-dome-23-ww/





 





 





RED/WHITE "SWITCHABLE" LED FOR DOME LIGHTS
(UN-DOME-15-RWW)







SKU: UN-DOME-15-RWW 





Base Type: Single-Contact (BA15s)







 





https://store.marinebeam.com/red-white-switchable-led-for-dome-lights-un-dome-15-rww/





 





 





We've had them for 4 or 5
years now, absolutely no issues.





 





Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin

S/V Salazar - Can 54955

C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67

Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia 





 





 



On 25 April 2018 at 13:47, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
wrote:



I need to replace all the cabin lights/fixtures on my 36XL/kcb and
am thinking of a white/red combo LED for all 0r some of them. 





 





I mostly race her so the lights don't get used very often. I
want to get something that is relatively inexpensive, will not





rust/tarnish (forget about the traditional brass stuff) and most
importantly will work reliably after long periods of no use.





They probably will be powered by the house 12V--I tried battery
operated (in the housing) and these were a total waste of money





since the batteries corroded faster than they lost their charge!





 





I am talking about forward and aft cabin lights (~ 6 total) which
mount to the ceiling with built in switches for on-off and white/red. 





The housings on these will be exposed--visible so that 'ribbon'
type LEDs are out.





 





In the main cabin, I need 4 that will be mounted under the
'shelves' and thus the housings are not important. I also need 2 that





would be mounted in the forward cabin corners for reading and 2 in
the 'ceiling', all of which would be exposed so the housing is important. 





 





I thought I might go with one source for consistency and maybe
save some money. 





 





I am looking for suggestions from the list before I decide.





 





Thanks in advance, 





 





Charlie Nelson





1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb





Water Phantom





 





 





 





cenel...@aol.com





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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
I was just looking at those!

I see when you look at the one you bought, one of the Pix has an X through 
their $20 more expensive tri color light they sell, as though they are trashing 
their own product.  I am just about to replace a tall incandescent 
tricolor/anchor, but it has four wires. 

One thing I am curious about, I removed a strobe from my boat when I bought it, 
as I thought it was illegal to use a strobe.

When is it kosher to flash a strobe, when you are going down?

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PAanimated_favicon1

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:51 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck S
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

 

Got my replacement LEDs this year from MarineBeam also. Nice build and 
packaging. 
I'll be trying out their new two wire Tricolor/anchor/strobe this season and a 
steaming/decklight combo too.




On April 25, 2018 at 4:27 PM Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi Charlie,

 

I bought the following from Marine Beam and just put them into the existing 
lights.  There are two types of retrofit LED's I used, one type is just Warm 
White, the other switches between Red and Warm White.  Absolutely no changes to 
the existing lights required, no wiring changes either, just put them in and 
they work  Very nice light form them too.

 

23-LED CONSTELLATION MATRIX FOR DOME LIGHTS (UN-DOME-23-WW)

SKU: BA-1156-23X-WW

* Base Type:  Single-Contact (BA15s)

 

https://store.marinebeam.com/23-led-constellation-matrix-for-dome-lights-un-dome-23-ww/

 

 

RED/WHITE "SWITCHABLE" LED FOR DOME LIGHTS (UN-DOME-15-RWW)

SKU: UN-DOME-15-RWW 

Base Type: Single-Contact (BA15s)

 

https://store.marinebeam.com/red-white-switchable-led-for-dome-lights-un-dome-15-rww/

 

 

We've had them for 4 or 5 years now, absolutely no issues.

 

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia 

 

 

On 25 April 2018 at 13:47, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List  
wrote:

I need to replace all the cabin lights/fixtures on my 36XL/kcb and am thinking 
of a white/red combo LED for all 0r some of them. 

 

I mostly race her so the lights don't get used very often. I want to get 
something that is relatively inexpensive, will not

rust/tarnish (forget about the traditional brass stuff) and most importantly 
will work reliably after long periods of no use.

They probably will be powered by the house 12V--I tried battery operated (in 
the housing) and these were a total waste of money

since the batteries corroded faster than they lost their charge!

 

I am talking about forward and aft cabin lights (~ 6 total) which mount to the 
ceiling with built in switches for on-off and white/red. 

The housings on these will be exposed--visible so that 'ribbon' type LEDs are 
out.

 

In the main cabin, I need 4 that will be mounted under the 'shelves' and thus 
the housings are not important. I also need 2 that

would be mounted in the forward cabin corners for reading and 2 in the 
'ceiling', all of which would be exposed so the housing is important. 

 

I thought I might go with one source for consistency and maybe save some money. 

 

I am looking for suggestions from the list before I decide.

 

Thanks in advance, 

 

Charlie Nelson

1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb

Water Phantom

 

 

 

cenel...@aol.com


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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List 
Got my replacement LEDs this year from MarineBeam also. Nice build and 
packaging.
I'll be trying out their new two wire Tricolor/anchor/strobe this season and a 
steaming/decklight combo too.


> On April 25, 2018 at 4:27 PM Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Charlie,
> 
> I bought the following from Marine Beam and just put them into the 
> existing lights.  There are two types of retrofit LED's I used, one type is 
> just Warm White, the other switches between Red and Warm White.  Absolutely 
> no changes to the existing lights required, no wiring changes either, just 
> put them in and they work  Very nice light form them too.
> 
> 23-LED CONSTELLATION MATRIX FOR DOME LIGHTS (UN-DOME-23-WW)
> SKU: BA-1156-23X-WW
> * Base Type:  Single-Contact (BA15s)
> 
> 
> https://store.marinebeam.com/23-led-constellation-matrix-for-dome-lights-un-dome-23-ww/
> 
> 
> RED/WHITE "SWITCHABLE" LED FOR DOME LIGHTS (UN-DOME-15-RWW)
> SKU: UN-DOME-15-RWW 
> Base Type: Single-Contact (BA15s)
> 
> 
> https://store.marinebeam.com/red-white-switchable-led-for-dome-lights-un-dome-15-rww/
> 
> 
> We've had them for 4 or 5 years now, absolutely no issues.
> 
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
> 
> 
> On 25 April 2018 at 13:47, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> > > I need to replace all the cabin lights/fixtures on my 
> 36XL/kcb and am thinking of a white/red combo LED for all 0r some of them.
> >  
> > I mostly race her so the lights don't get used very often. I want 
> > to get something that is relatively inexpensive, will not
> > rust/tarnish (forget about the traditional brass stuff) and most 
> > importantly will work reliably after long periods of no use.
> > They probably will be powered by the house 12V--I tried battery 
> > operated (in the housing) and these were a total waste of money
> > since the batteries corroded faster than they lost their charge!
> >  
> > I am talking about forward and aft cabin lights (~ 6 total) which 
> > mount to the ceiling with built in switches for on-off and white/red.
> > The housings on these will be exposed--visible so that 'ribbon' 
> > type LEDs are out.
> >  
> > In the main cabin, I need 4 that will be mounted under the 
> > 'shelves' and thus the housings are not important. I also need 2 that
> > would be mounted in the forward cabin corners for reading and 2 in 
> > the 'ceiling', all of which would be exposed so the housing is important.
> >  
> > I thought I might go with one source for consistency and maybe save 
> > some money. 
> >  
> > I am looking for suggestions from the list before I decide.
> >  
> > Thanks in advance, 
> >  
> > Charlie Nelson
> > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
> > Water Phantom
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > cenel...@aol.com mailto:cenel...@aol.com
> > 
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Re: Stus-List LED Cabin Lighting

2018-04-25 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List 
Hi Dave,
I bought one of those puck light packs 5 or 6 years ago and use them often. I 
put them in the pilot berths and inside cubbies and the engine compartment. The 
batteries last the season or two if rarely used. I use them as night lights or 
stumble lights when we watch TV.
I keep a larger version in my ice box which turns off automatically after a 
preset time. I remember I found it in Walmart as a closet light for $6.


> On April 25, 2018 at 5:29 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> At BJ’s wholesale club I noticed a pack of 8 LED battery operated puck 
> lights with velcro stick on mounts and a remote control that regulated which 
> were on and brightness.  The whole thing was under $20.  I was very tempted 
> and may yet do it even though I already have LED’s.  I am sure I would find a 
> use for them.  Dave
> 
> Dr. David Knecht
> Professor , Department of Molecular and Cell Biology 
> University of Connecticut
> 91 N. Eagleville Rd.
> U-3125
> Storrs, CT 06269-3125
> 860-486-2200
> 
> 
> > > On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > 
> > I found some 12 v emergency lights at a Restore for $6 each. They 
> > didn't have an incorporated switch so that cost another $5 for a small 
> > rocker switch from a local electronics store, then replaced the bulb with 
> > an LED I got on e-Bay for peanuts (from China). Cheap and works great.
> > 
> > Cheers, J-G 
> > Callisto, 35 Mk2
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Re: Stus-List LED Cabin Lighting

2018-04-25 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
I bought battery operated, LED puck lights at Harbor Freight.  They didn't
last very long.  I replaced them with circular, LED  lights that I bought
from a local marine store.  They are touch sensitive.  Touch once, and they
give you a nice blue light.  Touch again and the light turns white.  Touch
and hold, and they gradually dim or get brighter, depending on how long you
hold the touch.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


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> At BJ’s wholesale club I noticed a pack of 8 LED battery operated puck
> lights with velcro stick on mounts and a remote control that regulated
> which were on and brightness.  The whole thing was under $20.  I was very
> tempted and may yet do it even though I already have LED’s.  I am sure I
> would find a use for them.  Dave
>
> Dr. David Knecht
> Professor , Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
> University of Connecticut
> 91 N. Eagleville Rd.
> U-3125
> Storrs, CT 06269-3125
> 860-486-2200
>
> On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I found some 12 v emergency lights at a Restore for $6 each. They didn't
> have an incorporated switch so that cost another $5 for a small rocker
> switch from a local electronics store, then replaced the bulb with an LED I
> got on e-Bay for peanuts (from China). Cheap and works great.
>
> Cheers, J-G
> Callisto, 35 Mk2
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Re: Stus-List LED Cabin Lighting

2018-04-25 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List 
At BJ’s wholesale club I noticed a pack of 8 LED battery operated puck lights 
with velcro stick on mounts and a remote control that regulated which were on 
and brightness.  The whole thing was under $20.  I was very tempted and may yet 
do it even though I already have LED’s.  I am sure I would find a use for them. 
 Dave

Dr. David Knecht
Professor , Department of Molecular and Cell Biology 
University of Connecticut   
91 N. Eagleville Rd.
U-3125
Storrs, CT 06269-3125
860-486-2200

> On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I found some 12 v emergency lights at a Restore for $6 each. They didn't have 
> an incorporated switch so that cost another $5 for a small rocker switch from 
> a local electronics store, then replaced the bulb with an LED I got on e-Bay 
> for peanuts (from China). Cheap and works great.
> 
> Cheers, J-G 
> Callisto, 35 Mk2
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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List 
We all will have a chance to look at each others boat in Annapolis Jim schwartz 
 SEA YA I 38 landfall washington nc 
 Original message From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
 Date: 4/25/18  4:10 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Dennis C."  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List LED cabin lighting 
I only buy LED’s from marinebeam.com. Bought Dr. LED and others.  They are no 
longer on Touché.
Dennis C.Touché 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA

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I should have had you on my boat (Expresso) when we met at the C&C Rendezvous 
in Mistic, CT. to see the lighting.
Gary


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 Gary, Thanks understood;...I just like seeing what other listers have done to 
improve their boats!





Richard




s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 27 CB; Ohio River

Richard N. Bush

2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine

Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 

502-584-7255


 



 



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To: C&C List 

Cc: Gary Russell 

Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:32 pm

Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting








Richard,
     You know that's something I should have done, but didn't.  I put the same 
lighting in Expresso (my 35 Mk II) and Kaylarah (my 37+).  Several people 
copied my idea at the club.  I have photographed most of my projects, but not 
the lighting.  Perhaps, because it's kind of difficult to get a photo of 
something you can't see.  The lights are hidden... you only see the light.  The 
next time I'm on the boat at night, I'll try to get some photos.  Perhaps, if 
it stops raining, I might be able to get some photos tonight.





Gary





~~~_/)~~









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 wrote:



 Gary do you have any photos? Thanks






 









Richard




s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River








Richard N. Bush  


2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine


Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 


502-584-7255





 






 






-Original Message-


From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 


To: C&C List 


Cc: Gary Russell 


Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 1:44 pm


Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting













I installed indirect lighting under the cabinets and trim in the form of self 
adhesive led strips that are inexpensive and look sexy.  You can also purchase 
remote control / dimmers that require no routing of wires.








Gary



S/V Kaylarah



'90 C&C 37+



East Greenwich, RI, USA













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Stus-List LED Cabin Lighting

2018-04-25 Thread Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List 
I found some 12 v emergency lights at a Restore for $6 each. They didn't have 
an incorporated switch so that cost another $5 for a small rocker switch from a 
local electronics store, then replaced the bulb with an LED I got on e-Bay for 
peanuts (from China). Cheap and works great.

Cheers, J-G
Callisto, 35 Mk2
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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
Hi Charlie,

I bought the following from Marine Beam and just put them into the existing
lights.  There are two types of retrofit LED's I used, one type is just
Warm White, the other switches between Red and Warm White.  Absolutely no
changes to the existing lights required, no wiring changes either, just put
them in and they work  Very nice light form them too.

23-LED CONSTELLATION MATRIX FOR DOME LIGHTS (UN-DOME-23-WW)
SKU: BA-1156-23X-WW
* Base Type:  Single-Contact (BA15s)

https://store.marinebeam.com/23-led-constellation-matrix-for-dome-lights-un-dome-23-ww/


RED/WHITE "SWITCHABLE" LED FOR DOME LIGHTS (UN-DOME-15-RWW)
SKU: UN-DOME-15-RWW
Base Type: Single-Contact (BA15s)

https://store.marinebeam.com/red-white-switchable-led-for-dome-lights-un-dome-15-rww/


We've had them for 4 or 5 years now, absolutely no issues.

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia


On 25 April 2018 at 13:47, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I need to replace all the cabin lights/fixtures on my 36XL/kcb and am
> thinking of a white/red combo LED for all 0r some of them.
>
> I mostly race her so the lights don't get used very often. I want to get
> something that is relatively inexpensive, will not
> rust/tarnish (forget about the traditional brass stuff) and most
> importantly will work reliably after long periods of no use.
> They probably will be powered by the house 12V--I tried battery operated
> (in the housing) and these were a total waste of money
> since the batteries corroded faster than they lost their charge!
>
> I am talking about forward and aft cabin lights (~ 6 total) which mount to
> the ceiling with built in switches for on-off and white/red.
> The housings on these will be exposed--visible so that 'ribbon' type LEDs
> are out.
>
> In the main cabin, I need 4 that will be mounted under the 'shelves' and
> thus the housings are not important. I also need 2 that
> would be mounted in the forward cabin corners for reading and 2 in the
> 'ceiling', all of which would be exposed so the housing is important.
>
> I thought I might go with one source for consistency and maybe save
> some money.
>
> I am looking for suggestions from the list before I decide.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Charlie Nelson
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
> Water Phantom
>
>
>
> cenel...@aol.com
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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
I only buy LED’s from marinebeam.com. Bought Dr. LED and others.  They are no 
longer on Touché.

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:30 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I should have had you on my boat (Expresso) when we met at the C&C Rendezvous 
> in Mistic, CT. to see the lighting.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> ~~~_/)~~
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:16 PM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Gary, Thanks understood;...I just like seeing what other listers have done 
>> to improve their boats!
>> Richard
>> 
>> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 27 CB; Ohio River
>> Richard N. Bush
>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
>> 502-584-7255
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>> To: C&C List 
>> Cc: Gary Russell 
>> Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:32 pm
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting
>> 
>> Richard,
>>  You know that's something I should have done, but didn't.  I put the 
>> same lighting in Expresso (my 35 Mk II) and Kaylarah (my 37+).  Several 
>> people copied my idea at the club.  I have photographed most of my projects, 
>> but not the lighting.  Perhaps, because it's kind of difficult to get a 
>> photo of something you can't see.  The lights are hidden... you only see the 
>> light.  The next time I'm on the boat at night, I'll try to get some photos. 
>>  Perhaps, if it stops raining, I might be able to get some photos tonight.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> ~~~_/)~~
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 2:06 PM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Gary do you have any photos? Thanks
>> 
>> Richard
>> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River
>> 
>> 
>> Richard N. Bush  
>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
>> 502-584-7255
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>> To: C&C List 
>> Cc: Gary Russell 
>> Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 1:44 pm
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting
>> 
>> I installed indirect lighting under the cabinets and trim in the form of 
>> self adhesive led strips that are inexpensive and look sexy.  You can also 
>> purchase remote control / dimmers that require no routing of wires.
>> 
>> Gary
>> S/V Kaylarah
>> '90 C&C 37+
>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>> 
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2018-04-25 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List 
I should have had you on my boat (Expresso) when we met at the C&C
Rendezvous in Mistic, CT. to see the lighting.

Gary


~~~_/)~~


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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Gary, Thanks understood;...I just like seeing what other listers have done
> to improve their boats!
> Richard
>
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 27 CB; Ohio River
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 
> To: C&C List 
> Cc: Gary Russell 
> Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:32 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting
>
> Richard,
>  You know that's something I should have done, but didn't.  I put the
> same lighting in Expresso (my 35 Mk II) and Kaylarah (my 37+).  Several
> people copied my idea at the club.  I have photographed most of my
> projects, but not the lighting.  Perhaps, because it's kind of difficult to
> get a photo of something you can't see.  The lights are hidden... you only
> see the light.  The next time I'm on the boat at night, I'll try to get
> some photos.  Perhaps, if it stops raining, I might be able to get some
> photos tonight.
>
> Gary
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 2:06 PM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Gary do you have any photos? Thanks
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 
> To: C&C List 
> Cc: Gary Russell 
> Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 1:44 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting
>
> I installed indirect lighting under the cabinets and trim in the form of self
> adhesive led strips
> <https://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/flexible-led-strip-lights/filter/LED_Color,White,136,4627:Water_Resistance,Weatherproof_%28IP65_and_above%29,135,4566:>
> that are inexpensive and look sexy.  You can also purchase remote control
> / dimmers
> <https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/controllers/single-color-led-controller-with-dynamic-modes-rf-remote/1370/3140/>
> that require no routing of wires.
>
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C&C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
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2018-04-25 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List 

 

 Gary, Thanks understood;...I just like seeing what other listers have done to 
improve their boats!


Richard

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 27 CB; Ohio River
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 
To: C&C List 
Cc: Gary Russell 
Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting



Richard,
 You know that's something I should have done, but didn't.  I put the same 
lighting in Expresso (my 35 Mk II) and Kaylarah (my 37+).  Several people 
copied my idea at the club.  I have photographed most of my projects, but not 
the lighting.  Perhaps, because it's kind of difficult to get a photo of 
something you can't see.  The lights are hidden... you only see the light.  The 
next time I'm on the boat at night, I'll try to get some photos.  Perhaps, if 
it stops raining, I might be able to get some photos tonight.


Gary



~~~_/)~~




On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 2:06 PM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 Gary do you have any photos? Thanks

 


Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River


Richard N. Bush  
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 
To: C&C List 
Cc: Gary Russell 
Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting



I installed indirect lighting under the cabinets and trim in the form of self 
adhesive led strips that are inexpensive and look sexy.  You can also purchase 
remote control / dimmers that require no routing of wires.


Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA




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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List 
Richard,
 You know that's something I should have done, but didn't.  I put the
same lighting in Expresso (my 35 Mk II) and Kaylarah (my 37+).  Several
people copied my idea at the club.  I have photographed most of my
projects, but not the lighting.  Perhaps, because it's kind of difficult to
get a photo of something you can't see.  The lights are hidden... you only
see the light.  The next time I'm on the boat at night, I'll try to get
some photos.  Perhaps, if it stops raining, I might be able to get some
photos tonight.

Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 2:06 PM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Gary do you have any photos? Thanks
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 
> To: C&C List 
> Cc: Gary Russell 
> Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 1:44 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting
>
> I installed indirect lighting under the cabinets and trim in the form of self
> adhesive led strips
> <https://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/flexible-led-strip-lights/filter/LED_Color,White,136,4627:Water_Resistance,Weatherproof_%28IP65_and_above%29,135,4566:>
> that are inexpensive and look sexy.  You can also purchase remote control
> / dimmers
> <https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/controllers/single-color-led-controller-with-dynamic-modes-rf-remote/1370/3140/>
> that require no routing of wires.
>
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C&C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
> ~~~_/)~~
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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List 

 Gary do you have any photos? Thanks

 


Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River


Richard N. Bush  
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 
To: C&C List 
Cc: Gary Russell 
Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting



I installed indirect lighting under the cabinets and trim in the form of self 
adhesive led strips that are inexpensive and look sexy.  You can also purchase 
remote control / dimmers that require no routing of wires.


Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA




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2018-04-25 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List 
I installed indirect lighting under the cabinets and trim in the form of self
adhesive led strips
<https://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/flexible-led-strip-lights/filter/LED_Color,White,136,4627:Water_Resistance,Weatherproof_%28IP65_and_above%29,135,4566:>
that are inexpensive and look sexy.  You can also purchase remote control /
dimmers
<https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/controllers/single-color-led-controller-with-dynamic-modes-rf-remote/1370/3140/>
that require no routing of wires.

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Okay.  Thanks.
>
> *From:* Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2018 1:10 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Dave Godwin 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting
>
> Charlie,
>
> Just bought six Imtra Sydney
> <https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C65136%7C2312540%7C2312541&id=913319>
> interior reading lamps. I installed the two in the v-berth a couple of
> weeks past and they work well. Years ago (pre-LED) I bought some cheap,
> brass-plated halogens. Not worth the shipping costs. Cheap, hard to mount
> and didn’t last very long. Did I mention cheap?
>
> The lamps only come in white so they will not fit your bill for red/white.
> This wasn’t a concern for me as I have dedicated red LED courtesy lights
> one a single circuit, scattered throughout the interior. For the lights in
> the overhead (ceiling) lights I will use a good quality flush-mount puck
> LED light.
>
> I was able to buy the lights during Defender Industries last sale so saved
> 20% per lamp. That said, looking around the Intertubz one can find the
> lower pricing on those units.
>
> Best,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
>
> On Apr 25, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I need to replace all the cabin lights/fixtures on my 36XL/kcb and am
> thinking of a white/red combo LED for all 0r some of them.
>
> I mostly race her so the lights don't get used very often. I want to get
> something that is relatively inexpensive, will not
> rust/tarnish (forget about the traditional brass stuff) and most
> importantly will work reliably after long periods of no use.
> They probably will be powered by the house 12V--I tried battery operated
> (in the housing) and these were a total waste of money
> since the batteries corroded faster than they lost their charge!
>
> I am talking about forward and aft cabin lights (~ 6 total) which mount to
> the ceiling with built in switches for on-off and white/red.
> The housings on these will be exposed--visible so that 'ribbon' type LEDs
> are out.
>
> In the main cabin, I need 4 that will be mounted under the 'shelves' and
> thus the housings are not important. I also need 2 that
> would be mounted in the forward cabin corners for reading and 2 in the
> 'ceiling', all of which would be exposed so the housing is important.
>
> I thought I might go with one source for consistency and maybe save some
> money.
>
> I am looking for suggestions from the list before I decide.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Charlie Nelson
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
> Water Phantom
>
>
>
> cenel...@aol.com
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2018-04-25 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List 
We did the same. Believe it or not Amazon was the lowest. Spent about $9.00 
each where they were about $15.00 + everywhere else.Jim schwartz38 landfall SEA 
YA I WASHINGTON nc
 Original message From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 Date: 4/25/18  12:47 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Stus-List LED cabin 
lighting 

I need to replace all the cabin lights/fixtures on my 36XL/kcb and am thinking 
of a white/red combo LED for all 0r some of them. 

 

I mostly race her so the lights don't get used very often. I want to get 
something that is relatively inexpensive, will not

rust/tarnish (forget about the traditional brass stuff) and most importantly 
will work reliably after long periods of no use.

They probably will be powered by the house 12V--I tried battery operated (in 
the housing) and these were a total waste of money

since the batteries corroded faster than they lost their charge!

 

I am talking about forward and aft cabin lights (~ 6 total) which mount to the 
ceiling with built in switches for on-off and white/red. 

The housings on these will be exposed--visible so that 'ribbon' type LEDs are 
out.

 

In the main cabin, I need 4 that will be mounted under the 'shelves' and thus 
the housings are not important. I also need 2 that

would be mounted in the forward cabin corners for reading and 2 in the 
'ceiling', all of which would be exposed so the housing is important. 

 

I thought I might go with one source for consistency and maybe save some money. 

 

I am looking for suggestions from the list before I decide.

 

Thanks in advance, 

 

Charlie Nelson

1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb

Water Phantom

 

 

 

cenel...@aol.com


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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
Okay.  Thanks.

From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 1:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Dave Godwin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

Charlie, 

Just bought six Imtra Sydney interior reading lamps. I installed the two in the 
v-berth a couple of weeks past and they work well. Years ago (pre-LED) I bought 
some cheap, brass-plated halogens. Not worth the shipping costs. Cheap, hard to 
mount and didn’t last very long. Did I mention cheap?

The lamps only come in white so they will not fit your bill for red/white. This 
wasn’t a concern for me as I have dedicated red LED courtesy lights one a 
single circuit, scattered throughout the interior. For the lights in the 
overhead (ceiling) lights I will use a good quality flush-mount puck LED light.

I was able to buy the lights during Defender Industries last sale so saved 20% 
per lamp. That said, looking around the Intertubz one can find the lower 
pricing on those units. 

Best,

Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit


  On Apr 25, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  I need to replace all the cabin lights/fixtures on my 36XL/kcb and am 
thinking of a white/red combo LED for all 0r some of them. 

  I mostly race her so the lights don't get used very often. I want to get 
something that is relatively inexpensive, will not
  rust/tarnish (forget about the traditional brass stuff) and most importantly 
will work reliably after long periods of no use.
  They probably will be powered by the house 12V--I tried battery operated (in 
the housing) and these were a total waste of money
  since the batteries corroded faster than they lost their charge!

  I am talking about forward and aft cabin lights (~ 6 total) which mount to 
the ceiling with built in switches for on-off and white/red. 
  The housings on these will be exposed--visible so that 'ribbon' type LEDs are 
out.

  In the main cabin, I need 4 that will be mounted under the 'shelves' and thus 
the housings are not important. I also need 2 that
  would be mounted in the forward cabin corners for reading and 2 in the 
'ceiling', all of which would be exposed so the housing is important. 

  I thought I might go with one source for consistency and maybe save some 
money. 

  I am looking for suggestions from the list before I decide.

  Thanks in advance, 

  Charlie Nelson
  1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
  Water Phantom



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Re: Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
Charlie,

Just bought six Imtra Sydney 

 interior reading lamps. I installed the two in the v-berth a couple of weeks 
past and they work well. Years ago (pre-LED) I bought some cheap, brass-plated 
halogens. Not worth the shipping costs. Cheap, hard to mount and didn’t last 
very long. Did I mention cheap?

The lamps only come in white so they will not fit your bill for red/white. This 
wasn’t a concern for me as I have dedicated red LED courtesy lights one a 
single circuit, scattered throughout the interior. For the lights in the 
overhead (ceiling) lights I will use a good quality flush-mount puck LED light.

I was able to buy the lights during Defender Industries last sale so saved 20% 
per lamp. That said, looking around the Intertubz one can find the lower 
pricing on those units. 

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

> On Apr 25, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I need to replace all the cabin lights/fixtures on my 36XL/kcb and am 
> thinking of a white/red combo LED for all 0r some of them.
>  
> I mostly race her so the lights don't get used very often. I want to get 
> something that is relatively inexpensive, will not
> rust/tarnish (forget about the traditional brass stuff) and most importantly 
> will work reliably after long periods of no use.
> They probably will be powered by the house 12V--I tried battery operated (in 
> the housing) and these were a total waste of money
> since the batteries corroded faster than they lost their charge!
>  
> I am talking about forward and aft cabin lights (~ 6 total) which mount to 
> the ceiling with built in switches for on-off and white/red.
> The housings on these will be exposed--visible so that 'ribbon' type LEDs are 
> out.
>  
> In the main cabin, I need 4 that will be mounted under the 'shelves' and thus 
> the housings are not important. I also need 2 that
> would be mounted in the forward cabin corners for reading and 2 in the 
> 'ceiling', all of which would be exposed so the housing is important.
>  
> I thought I might go with one source for consistency and maybe save some 
> money. 
>  
> I am looking for suggestions from the list before I decide.
>  
> Thanks in advance, 
>  
> Charlie Nelson
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
> Water Phantom
>  
>  
>  
> cenel...@aol.com
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Stus-List LED cabin lighting

2018-04-25 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 

I need to replace all the cabin lights/fixtures on my 36XL/kcb and am thinking 
of a white/red combo LED for all 0r some of them. 
 
I mostly race her so the lights don't get used very often. I want to get 
something that is relatively inexpensive, will not
rust/tarnish (forget about the traditional brass stuff) and most importantly 
will work reliably after long periods of no use.
They probably will be powered by the house 12V--I tried battery operated (in 
the housing) and these were a total waste of money
since the batteries corroded faster than they lost their charge!
 
I am talking about forward and aft cabin lights (~ 6 total) which mount to the 
ceiling with built in switches for on-off and white/red. 
The housings on these will be exposed--visible so that 'ribbon' type LEDs are 
out.

In the main cabin, I need 4 that will be mounted under the 'shelves' and thus 
the housings are not important. I also need 2 that
would be mounted in the forward cabin corners for reading and 2 in the 
'ceiling', all of which would be exposed so the housing is important. 

I thought I might go with one source for consistency and maybe save some money. 

I am looking for suggestions from the list before I decide.

Thanks in advance, 

Charlie Nelson
1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
Water Phantom


 
cenel...@aol.com

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