Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

I thought that little door was to pass beers to the skipper while he's working 
in the locker ;) 

On Sunday, July 9, 2017 12:51 PM, Dave S  wrote:
 

 Thanks Doug - sorry to hear about the heat.  If heat in the locker is 
contributing to the overheating (if ) then you have other issues.  You can 
check the hose to the strainer from there.Weeds if any would be caught in the 
strainer, for sure check that. If you are not getting much water through to the 
exhaust, you may be able to hear it.  Sounds less muffled.   Mine gets loud - 
(like jimmy page.  ) Check your water pump belt tension.  (Btdt) When mine 
overheAts a light goes off and an alarm sounds.  Hope that helps.  On a hot day 
(once at the dock)  I lift the locker lid a bit and open the little trap door 
in the galley.  Lets water heater, fridge and engine heat out.  Yes, the design 
is less than ideal for shedding unwanted heat. Hope that helps.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Doug Welch  wrote:


We took a week and headed east (Trentport and back) and gradually loaded up the 
locker. Motor sailing on the return leg from Trenton to Cobourg the engine 
overheated. Fortunately the wind gods took pity on us and the wind piped up. We 
sailed for a couple of hours while the motor cooled. My wife sailed while I 
checked the impeller. It was in perfect shape. We unloaded the locker and the 
motor ran fine on the rest of our return to Frenchman's Bay. I think the 
overloading of the locker contributed to or was the cause of the overheating. 
My wife thinks we sucked up some weeds (we used the small boat channel going 
from Trenton to the Murray Canal). I am going to be more careful with what I 
place in the locker. I am still going to get more storage with the partition I 
installed but am going to avoid putting things like fenders, my code 0, etc. in 
the locker that will restrict air flow. 
Long windy entry but I do have a few questions for the group
My engine panel seems to a warning light for high temp that doesn't work. Do 
these lights work? (assuming the bulb works)
Do you think the overheating was caused by filling the locker? 

Has anyone installed additional ventilation in the locker? It seems like it 
would be relatively easy to install a vent and perhaps a small 12v fan to keep 
the air moving
Dave,    We ended up overnighting at the marina the Thursday before Canada Day 
and was just down the dock from you. Your boat is looking good.

Cheers, Doug WelchCeltic Knot85 33-2 c/b 

On Sunday, June 25, 2017 9:07 PM, "syerd...@gmail.com"  
wrote:
 

 Verrry interesting.    your refrigeration unit is in a completely 
different location.   Windstar has a plywood separator dividing the two spaces, 
but it's only a foot high at its tallest.  I was thinking after reading this 
thread to make a machine guard to cover the rotating parts, essentially leaving 
what I have intact.     Was in FB on Saturday, didn't think to look for you.  
Should have studied your boat more when you visited!Btw, Canada day and harbour 
day festivities are combined next weekend in Whitby.   Lots going on, probably 
the best weekend to visit if you can get a slip.  (I'm still on pier 7)

Dave.  
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 25, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Doug Welch  wrote:


Done 
C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator

  
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On Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:44 AM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 Thanks all for your input and ideas. I will share the solution I implement on

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
 On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 at 6:41 PM, Tortuga via CnC-List 
wrote:  On my 30, I use a piece of fishing net stretched between broom handles. 
I can drop the top handle to access the engine compartment. I try not to stow 
anything in the lazarette that is small enough to go through the net. So far so 
good. 
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkpvkGQ7RaWRhvUpERLYFLJ4uYH1gQ

Derek Kennedy1979 C 30 mk1- TortugaBallantyne's Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

My Universal 25XPB was overheating a bit at high rpm's.  After eliminating
all the usual suspects, I found pieces of the exchange pencil zincs in one
of the passes.  Scroll about halfway down here:

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/heat_exchanger

My exchanger wasn't nearly as plugged as the one above.

It really doesn't take much to affect the heat transfer in marine diesel
heat exchangers.  Heat exchangers are fairly critically designed.  Pluggage
in one or two tubes in one pass can significantly affect the effectiveness
of the entire exchanger.  The flow of water through the remaining tubes
will increase.  The increase in velocity through those tubes will reduce
heat transfer, and so on and so on.

Once I cleaned out the zinc pieces, the engine ran at temp again.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 12:20 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The full locker should not have been a factor, if the cooling system is
> functioning properly.
> I had to motor 45 miles one hot August day. Could only go 4kts (1400 rpm)
> with the lazerett open. To keep the horn from sounding, i watched the yemp
> guage and kept it at 200-204deg. The horn and light came on at 212deg.
> Found out my heat exchanger tubes were over 50% plugged.
> I cleaned them using muratic acid, and a long 1/8 drill bit to clean out
> the tubes.
> This solved my over heating problem.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

The full locker should not have been a factor, if the cooling system is 
functioning properly.  I had to motor 45 miles one hot August day. Could only 
go 4kts (1400 rpm) with the lazerett open. To keep the horn from sounding, i 
watched the yemp guage and kept it at 200-204deg. The horn and light came on at 
212deg. Found out my heat exchanger tubes were over 50% plugged. I cleaned them 
using muratic acid, and a long 1/8 drill bit to clean out the tubes. This 
solved my over heating problem.  If the engine is overloaded (or too much prop 
pitch) this can also lead to the engine running hot. Throttling Back 50-100 rpm 
will help this.  



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus (for sale)Lf38 
Significant Other LF39 
 Original message From: Doug Welch via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 7/9/17  07:17  (GMT-08:00) To: syerd...@gmail.com 
Cc: Doug Welch <doug.we...@rogers.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2 
We took a week and headed east (Trentport and back) and gradually loaded up the 
locker. Motor sailing on the return leg from Trenton to Cobourg the engine 
overheated. Fortunately the wind gods took pity on us and the wind piped up. We 
sailed for a couple of hours while the motor cooled. My wife sailed while I 
checked the impeller. It was in perfect shape. We unloaded the locker and the 
motor ran fine on the rest of our return to Frenchman's Bay. I think the 
overloading of the locker contributed to or was the cause of the overheating. 
My wife thinks we sucked up some weeds (we used the small boat channel going 
from Trenton to the Murray Canal). I am going to be more careful with what I 
place in the locker. I am still going to get more storage with the partition I 
installed but am going to avoid putting things like fenders, my code 0, etc. in 
the locker that will restrict air flow. 
Long windy entry but I do have a few questions for the group
My engine panel seems to a warning light for high temp that doesn't work. Do 
these lights work? (assuming the bulb works)
Do you think the overheating was caused by filling the locker? 

Has anyone installed additional ventilation in the locker? It seems like it 
would be relatively easy to install a vent and perhaps a small 12v fan to keep 
the air moving
Dave,    We ended up overnighting at the marina the Thursday before Canada Day 
and was just down the dock from you. Your boat is looking good.

Cheers, Doug WelchCeltic Knot85 33-2 c/b 

On Sunday, June 25, 2017 9:07 PM, "syerd...@gmail.com" <syerd...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
  

 Verrry interesting.    your refrigeration unit is in a completely 
different location.   Windstar has a plywood separator dividing the two spaces, 
but it's only a foot high at its tallest.  I was thinking after reading this 
thread to make a machine guard to cover the rotating parts, essentially leaving 
what I have intact.     Was in FB on Saturday, didn't think to look for you.  
Should have studied your boat more when you visited!Btw, Canada day and harbour 
day festivities are combined next weekend in Whitby.   Lots going on, probably 
the best weekend to visit if you can get a slip.  (I'm still on pier 7)

Dave.  
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 25, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Doug Welch <doug.we...@rogers.com> wrote:

Done 
C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator

  C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator By Imgur  Imgur: The most 
awesome images on the Internet.  
 

On Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:44 AM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
  

 Thanks all for your input and ideas. I will share the solution I implement on

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
   On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 at 6:41 PM, Tortuga via CnC-List<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:   On my 30, I use a piece of fishing net stretched between broom 
handles. I can drop the top handle to access the engine compartment. I try not 
to stow anything in the lazarette that is small enough to go through the net. 
So far so good. 
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkpvkGQ7RaWRhvUpERLYFLJ4uYH1gQ

Derek Kennedy1979 C 30 mk1- TortugaBallantyne's Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Thanks Doug - sorry to hear about the heat.  
If heat in the locker is contributing to the overheating (if ) then you 
have other issues.  You can check the hose to the strainer from there.
Weeds if any would be caught in the strainer, for sure check that. 
If you are not getting much water through to the exhaust, you may be able to 
hear it.  Sounds less muffled.   Mine gets loud - (like jimmy page.  ) Check 
your water pump belt tension.  (Btdt) 
When mine overheAts a light goes off and an alarm sounds.  Hope that helps.  
On a hot day (once at the dock)  I lift the locker lid a bit and open the 
little trap door in the galley.  Lets water heater, fridge and engine heat out. 
 Yes, the design is less than ideal for shedding unwanted heat.
 Hope that helps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Doug Welch  wrote:
> 
> We took a week and headed east (Trentport and back) and gradually loaded up 
> the locker. Motor sailing on the return leg from Trenton to Cobourg the 
> engine overheated. Fortunately the wind gods took pity on us and the wind 
> piped up. We sailed for a couple of hours while the motor cooled. My wife 
> sailed while I checked the impeller. It was in perfect shape. We unloaded the 
> locker and the motor ran fine on the rest of our return to Frenchman's Bay. I 
> think the overloading of the locker contributed to or was the cause of the 
> overheating. My wife thinks we sucked up some weeds (we used the small boat 
> channel going from Trenton to the Murray Canal). I am going to be more 
> careful with what I place in the locker. I am still going to get more storage 
> with the partition I installed but am going to avoid putting things like 
> fenders, my code 0, etc. in the locker that will restrict air flow. 
> 
> Long windy entry but I do have a few questions for the group
> 
> My engine panel seems to a warning light for high temp that doesn't work. 
> Do these lights work? (assuming the bulb works)
> 
> Do you think the overheating was caused by filling the locker? 
> 
> 
> Has anyone installed additional ventilation in the locker? It seems like it 
> would be relatively easy to install a vent and perhaps a small 12v fan to 
> keep the air moving
> 
> Dave,
> We ended up overnighting at the marina the Thursday before Canada Day and 
> was just down the dock from you. Your boat is looking good.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>  
> Doug Welch
> Celtic Knot
> 85 33-2 c/b
> 
> 
> On Sunday, June 25, 2017 9:07 PM, "syerd...@gmail.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Verrry interesting.your refrigeration unit is in a completely 
> different location.   Windstar has a plywood separator dividing the two 
> spaces, but it's only a foot high at its tallest.  I was thinking after 
> reading this thread to make a machine guard to cover the rotating parts, 
> essentially leaving what I have intact. 
> Was in FB on Saturday, didn't think to look for you.  Should have studied 
> your boat more when you visited!
> Btw, Canada day and harbour day festivities are combined next weekend in 
> Whitby.   Lots going on, probably the best weekend to visit if you can get a 
> slip.  (I'm still on pier 7)
> 
> 
> Dave.  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Doug Welch  wrote:
>> 
>> Done 
>> 
>> C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator
>> 
>> C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator
>> By Imgur
>> Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:44 AM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks all for your input and ideas. I will share the solution I implement on
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 at 6:41 PM, Tortuga via CnC-List
>>  wrote:
>> On my 30, I use a piece of fishing net stretched between broom handles. I 
>> can drop the top handle to access the engine compartment. I try not to stow 
>> anything in the lazarette that is small enough to go through the net. So far 
>> so good. 
>> 
>> https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkpvkGQ7RaWRhvUpERLYFLJ4uYH1gQ
>> 
>> Derek Kennedy
>> 1979 C 30 mk1- Tortuga
>> Ballantyne's Cove, NS
>> 
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>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

We took a week and headed east (Trentport and back) and gradually loaded up the 
locker. Motor sailing on the return leg from Trenton to Cobourg the engine 
overheated. Fortunately the wind gods took pity on us and the wind piped up. We 
sailed for a couple of hours while the motor cooled. My wife sailed while I 
checked the impeller. It was in perfect shape. We unloaded the locker and the 
motor ran fine on the rest of our return to Frenchman's Bay. I think the 
overloading of the locker contributed to or was the cause of the overheating. 
My wife thinks we sucked up some weeds (we used the small boat channel going 
from Trenton to the Murray Canal). I am going to be more careful with what I 
place in the locker. I am still going to get more storage with the partition I 
installed but am going to avoid putting things like fenders, my code 0, etc. in 
the locker that will restrict air flow. 
Long windy entry but I do have a few questions for the group
My engine panel seems to a warning light for high temp that doesn't work. Do 
these lights work? (assuming the bulb works)
Do you think the overheating was caused by filling the locker? 

Has anyone installed additional ventilation in the locker? It seems like it 
would be relatively easy to install a vent and perhaps a small 12v fan to keep 
the air moving
Dave,    We ended up overnighting at the marina the Thursday before Canada Day 
and was just down the dock from you. Your boat is looking good.

Cheers, Doug WelchCeltic Knot85 33-2 c/b 

On Sunday, June 25, 2017 9:07 PM, "syerd...@gmail.com"  
wrote:
 

 Verrry interesting.    your refrigeration unit is in a completely 
different location.   Windstar has a plywood separator dividing the two spaces, 
but it's only a foot high at its tallest.  I was thinking after reading this 
thread to make a machine guard to cover the rotating parts, essentially leaving 
what I have intact.     Was in FB on Saturday, didn't think to look for you.  
Should have studied your boat more when you visited!Btw, Canada day and harbour 
day festivities are combined next weekend in Whitby.   Lots going on, probably 
the best weekend to visit if you can get a slip.  (I'm still on pier 7)

Dave.  
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 25, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Doug Welch  wrote:


Done 
C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator

  
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C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator
 By Imgur Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.  |   |

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  |

 
 

On Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:44 AM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 Thanks all for your input and ideas. I will share the solution I implement on

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
 On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 at 6:41 PM, Tortuga via CnC-List 
wrote:  On my 30, I use a piece of fishing net stretched between broom handles. 
I can drop the top handle to access the engine compartment. I try not to stow 
anything in the lazarette that is small enough to go through the net. So far so 
good. 
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkpvkGQ7RaWRhvUpERLYFLJ4uYH1gQ

Derek Kennedy1979 C 30 mk1- TortugaBallantyne's Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Dave via CnC-List]

Verrry interesting.your refrigeration unit is in a completely different 
location.   Windstar has a plywood separator dividing the two spaces, but it's 
only a foot high at its tallest.  I was thinking after reading this thread to 
make a machine guard to cover the rotating parts, essentially leaving what I 
have intact. 
Was in FB on Saturday, didn't think to look for you.  Should have studied your 
boat more when you visited!
Btw, Canada day and harbour day festivities are combined next weekend in 
Whitby.   Lots going on, probably the best weekend to visit if you can get a 
slip.  (I'm still on pier 7)


Dave.  

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 25, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Doug Welch  wrote:
> 
> Done 
> 
> C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator
> 
> C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator
> By Imgur
> Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:44 AM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks all for your input and ideas. I will share the solution I implement on
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 at 6:41 PM, Tortuga via CnC-List
>  wrote:
> On my 30, I use a piece of fishing net stretched between broom handles. I can 
> drop the top handle to access the engine compartment. I try not to stow 
> anything in the lazarette that is small enough to go through the net. So far 
> so good. 
> 
> https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkpvkGQ7RaWRhvUpERLYFLJ4uYH1gQ
> 
> Derek Kennedy
> 1979 C 30 mk1- Tortuga
> Ballantyne's Cove, NS
> 
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

Done 
C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator

  
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C 33-2 Cockpit Locker Separator
 By Imgur Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.  |   |

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On Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:44 AM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 Thanks all for your input and ideas. I will share the solution I implement on

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
 On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 at 6:41 PM, Tortuga via CnC-List 
wrote:  On my 30, I use a piece of fishing net stretched between broom handles. 
I can drop the top handle to access the engine compartment. I try not to stow 
anything in the lazarette that is small enough to go through the net. So far so 
good. 
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkpvkGQ7RaWRhvUpERLYFLJ4uYH1gQ

Derek Kennedy1979 C 30 mk1- TortugaBallantyne's Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[doug.welch--- via CnC-List]

Thanks all for your input and ideas. I will share the solution I implement on

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 at 6:41 PM, Tortuga via CnC-List 
wrote:   On my 30, I use a piece of fishing net stretched between broom 
handles. I can drop the top handle to access the engine compartment. I try not 
to stow anything in the lazarette that is small enough to go through the net. 
So far so good. 
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkpvkGQ7RaWRhvUpERLYFLJ4uYH1gQ

Derek Kennedy1979 C 30 mk1- TortugaBallantyne's Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Lee Rosenbaum via CnC-List]

Doug:

I have an "L" shaped removable wood shelf between my engine and the rest of
the cockpit locker.
It fits in nicely, keeps things from entering the engine area.  Allows air
to flow as it does not come all the way up.
Allows things to be placed on it.

Here are two pictures: one in place the other removed so you can see its
shape. https://goo.gl/photos/u4ymLwB2ygf4Yqjk8

Happy Sailing,
Lee Rosenbaum
Kookaburra 1985 33-2
Kenosha, WI

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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 15:45:20 + (UTC)
From: "doug.we...@rogers.com" <doug.we...@rogers.com>
To: C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2
Message-ID: <737137205.4478234.1496850320...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I have no separation between my cockpit locker and the shaft and engine
other than a short piece of glasses wood that is about a foot high. ?This
really limits the usefulness of the locker. ?I had a dinghy paddle bounce
into the shaft that caused my some brief trying to determine where the
burning plastic smell was coming from. I assumed it was an impeller (every
once in a while the sound of hooves are zebras ?). I checked a friend's 29-2
and it has a nice removable panel that looks original. My current plan is to
fabricate a removable separator from wire shelving but would like to get the
group's suggestions on other options.?
Cheers DougCeltic Knot 33-2 c/bFrenchman's Bay



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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

On my 38 OF I have a piece of plywood that has 2 smaller pieces to sandwich 
factory divider. Slides over the top, doesn't allow anything to fall into 
engine space, and is easily removed for maintenance. Plus it is where I hang 
the emergency tiller, and small shop vac. Never thought it wasn't original to 
boat till now. 


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Subject: Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2 
On our 34, have the same issue of a cavernous opening from the lazarette to the 
engine compartment / prop shaft with all kinds of potential for mischief.  We 
address this by 1) a laundry basket on top of the water heater to hold all 
sheets and lines, 2) fenders are always placed in lazarette with line outboard, 
3) cockpit folding plastic table standing upright against frame around opening, 
4) hatchboard placed vertically against plastic table, 5) no other material 
goes into lazarette.  3 and 4 prevent anything moving into engine compartment.  
No problems after 18 years John and MaryannLegacy III1982 C 34Noank, CT From: 
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board used here, it stops everything from falling into the shaft and lots of 
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

On our 34, have the same issue of a cavernous opening from the lazarette to the 
engine compartment / prop shaft with all kinds of potential for mischief.  We 
address this by 1) a laundry basket on top of the water heater to hold all 
sheets and lines, 2) fenders are always placed in lazarette with line outboard, 
3) cockpit folding plastic table standing upright against frame around opening, 
4) hatchboard placed vertically against plastic table, 5) no other material 
goes into lazarette.  3 and 4 prevent anything moving into engine compartment.  
No problems after 18 years

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

 

I’ve seen peg board used here, it stops everything from falling into the shaft 
and lots of holes to provide airflow to the engine compartment.

 

Rick Taillieu

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

I’ve seen peg board used here, it stops everything from falling into the shaft 
and lots of holes to provide airflow to the engine compartment.

 

Rick Taillieu

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

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Subject: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

 

I have no separation between my cockpit locker and the shaft and engine other 
than a short piece of glasses wood that is about a foot high.  This really 
limits the usefulness of the locker.  I had a dinghy paddle bounce into the 
shaft that caused my some brief trying to determine where the burning plastic 
smell was coming from. I assumed it was an impeller (every once in a while the 
sound of hooves are zebras 鸞). I checked a friend's 29-2 and it has a nice 
removable panel that looks original. My current plan is to fabricate a 
removable separator from wire shelving but would like to get the group's 
suggestions on other options. 

 

Cheers Doug

Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b

Frenchman's Bay

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Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Tortuga via CnC-List]

On my 30, I use a piece of fishing net stretched between broom handles. I
can drop the top handle to access the engine compartment. I try not to stow
anything in the lazarette that is small enough to go through the net. So
far so good.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkpvkGQ7RaWRhvUpERLYFLJ4uYH1gQ

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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Kevin Paxton via CnC-List]

I've tried a piece of plywood. It initially overheated the engine one
night. So I drilled a few holes in the plywood with a hole-saw. That helps,
but I don't feel it's a good solution. The cargo net idea might work
better.

Was it just left open like this from the factory or was there something
that originally covered that gap?

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:53 PM David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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> Did that to allow lots of air flow to engine
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> Date: 6/7/17 12:49 (GMT-04:00)
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> Cc: Tim Sippel <tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2
>
> I have a 33-2  my original idea was to buy a automotive cargo net and put
> it place to keep things in place.
>
> Never got around to it , I simply put the hatch board in place to prevent
> things from spilling .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tim Sippel*
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> *C 33mkii   Matico*
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> *Cc:* Kevin Paxton <kpax...@paxdesigns.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2
>
>
>
> I have this exact same issue just on a 34. I'd also like to find some way
> to separate the lazarette from the engine bay. I luckily have not had
> anything fall in there before, but I'm terrified of when it will happen.
> I'm definitely interested in suggestions from others.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kevin Paxton
>
> '82 34 #473
>
> Japhys Spirit
>
> Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD
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>
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:50 AM doug.welch--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I have no separation between my cockpit locker and the shaft and engine
> other than a short piece of glasses wood that is about a foot high.  This
> really limits the usefulness of the locker.  I had a dinghy paddle bounce
> into the shaft that caused my some brief trying to determine where the
> burning plastic smell was coming from. I assumed it was an impeller (every
> once in a while the sound of hooves are zebras 鸞). I checked a friend's
> 29-2 and it has a nice removable panel that looks original. My current plan
> is to fabricate a removable separator from wire shelving but would like to
> get the group's suggestions on other options.
>
>
>
> Cheers Doug
>
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>
> Frenchman's Bay
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[David via CnC-List]

Did that to allow lots of air flow to engine



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Date: 6/7/17 12:49 (GMT-04:00)
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Cc: Tim Sippel <tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

I have a 33-2  my original idea was to buy a automotive cargo net and put it 
place to keep things in place.
Never got around to it , I simply put the hatch board in place to prevent 
things from spilling .



Tim Sippel

C 33mkii   Matico

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

I have this exact same issue just on a 34. I'd also like to find some way to 
separate the lazarette from the engine bay. I luckily have not had anything 
fall in there before, but I'm terrified of when it will happen. I'm definitely 
interested in suggestions from others.


Kevin Paxton
'82 34 #473
Japhys Spirit
Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:50 AM doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have no separation between my cockpit locker and the shaft and engine other 
than a short piece of glasses wood that is about a foot high.  This really 
limits the usefulness of the locker.  I had a dinghy paddle bounce into the 
shaft that caused my some brief trying to determine where the burning plastic 
smell was coming from. I assumed it was an impeller (every once in a while the 
sound of hooves are zebras 鸞). I checked a friend's 29-2 and it has a nice 
removable panel that looks original. My current plan is to fabricate a 
removable separator from wire shelving but would like to get the group's 
suggestions on other options.

Cheers Doug
Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b
Frenchman's Bay
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

I have a wood panel that removes easily with a turn of a latch. Comes up to 
Within  6" of the cockpit sole. 


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> On Jun 7, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Tim Sippel via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have a 33-2  my original idea was to buy a automotive cargo net and put it 
> place to keep things in place.
> Never got around to it , I simply put the hatch board in place to prevent 
> things from spilling .
>  
>  
>  
> Tim Sippel
>  
> C 33mkii   Matico
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Paxton via CnC-List
> Sent: June 7, 2017 11:58 AM
> To: C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Kevin Paxton <kpax...@paxdesigns.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2
>  
> I have this exact same issue just on a 34. I'd also like to find some way to 
> separate the lazarette from the engine bay. I luckily have not had anything 
> fall in there before, but I'm terrified of when it will happen. I'm 
> definitely interested in suggestions from others.
>  
>  
> Kevin Paxton
> '82 34 #473
> Japhys Spirit
> Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD
>  
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:50 AM doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I have no separation between my cockpit locker and the shaft and engine other 
> than a short piece of glasses wood that is about a foot high.  This really 
> limits the usefulness of the locker.  I had a dinghy paddle bounce into the 
> shaft that caused my some brief trying to determine where the burning plastic 
> smell was coming from. I assumed it was an impeller (every once in a while 
> the sound of hooves are zebras 鸞). I checked a friend's 29-2 and it has a 
> nice removable panel that looks original. My current plan is to fabricate a 
> removable separator from wire shelving but would like to get the group's 
> suggestions on other options. 
>  
> Cheers Doug
> Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b
> Frenchman's Bay
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Tim Sippel via CnC-List]

I have a 33-2  my original idea was to buy a automotive cargo net and put it 
place to keep things in place.
Never got around to it , I simply put the hatch board in place to prevent 
things from spilling .



Tim Sippel

C 33mkii   Matico

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To: C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Kevin Paxton <kpax...@paxdesigns.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

I have this exact same issue just on a 34. I'd also like to find some way to 
separate the lazarette from the engine bay. I luckily have not had anything 
fall in there before, but I'm terrified of when it will happen. I'm definitely 
interested in suggestions from others.


Kevin Paxton
'82 34 #473
Japhys Spirit
Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:50 AM doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have no separation between my cockpit locker and the shaft and engine other 
than a short piece of glasses wood that is about a foot high.  This really 
limits the usefulness of the locker.  I had a dinghy paddle bounce into the 
shaft that caused my some brief trying to determine where the burning plastic 
smell was coming from. I assumed it was an impeller (every once in a while the 
sound of hooves are zebras 鸞). I checked a friend's 29-2 and it has a nice 
removable panel that looks original. My current plan is to fabricate a 
removable separator from wire shelving but would like to get the group's 
suggestions on other options.

Cheers Doug
Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b
Frenchman's Bay
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Persistence has a piece of vinyl that snaps into place for this purpose.  Has 
noise dampening material on the engine side as well.

Mike
Halifax

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Cc: doug.we...@rogers.com
Subject: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

I have no separation between my cockpit locker and the shaft and engine other 
than a short piece of glasses wood that is about a foot high.  This really 
limits the usefulness of the locker.  I had a dinghy paddle bounce into the 
shaft that caused my some brief trying to determine where the burning plastic 
smell was coming from. I assumed it was an impeller (every once in a while the 
sound of hooves are zebras 鸞). I checked a friend's 29-2 and it has a nice 
removable panel that looks original. My current plan is to fabricate a 
removable separator from wire shelving but would like to get the group's 
suggestions on other options.

Cheers Doug
Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b
Frenchman's Bay
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[Kevin Paxton via CnC-List]

I have this exact same issue just on a 34. I'd also like to find some way
to separate the lazarette from the engine bay. I luckily have not had
anything fall in there before, but I'm terrified of when it will happen.
I'm definitely interested in suggestions from others.


Kevin Paxton
'82 34 #473
Japhys Spirit
Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:50 AM doug.welch--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have no separation between my cockpit locker and the shaft and engine
> other than a short piece of glasses wood that is about a foot high.  This
> really limits the usefulness of the locker.  I had a dinghy paddle bounce
> into the shaft that caused my some brief trying to determine where the
> burning plastic smell was coming from. I assumed it was an impeller (every
> once in a while the sound of hooves are zebras 鸞). I checked a friend's
> 29-2 and it has a nice removable panel that looks original. My current plan
> is to fabricate a removable separator from wire shelving but would like to
> get the group's suggestions on other options.
>
> Cheers Doug
> Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b
> Frenchman's Bay
>
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Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[doug.welch--- via CnC-List]

I have no separation between my cockpit locker and the shaft and engine other 
than a short piece of glasses wood that is about a foot high.  This really 
limits the usefulness of the locker.  I had a dinghy paddle bounce into the 
shaft that caused my some brief trying to determine where the burning plastic 
smell was coming from. I assumed it was an impeller (every once in a while the 
sound of hooves are zebras 鸞). I checked a friend's 29-2 and it has a nice 
removable panel that looks original. My current plan is to fabricate a 
removable separator from wire shelving but would like to get the group's 
suggestions on other options. 
Cheers DougCeltic Knot 33-2 c/bFrenchman's Bay

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