[cobirds] Last two weeks of June

[Gary Brower]

Cobirders,

If you were going to head either east or west in the last two weeks of June, 
which direction would you go to bird:  Western Slope or Eastern Plains?

I know it will probably be hot in either area, but that is the best time I have 
to be away from the mountatins.

So:  NW Corner of the state, Roan Plateau, Grand Mesa, Umcompaghre Plateau, 
Mesa Verde, Pagosa Springs?

Or:  Trinidad, La Junta, Lamar Limon, Wray, Sterling, Pawnee Buttes, Greeley?

I’ll be headed to the mountains in July/August; I’m really interested in the 
other two major areas of the state.

Thoughts? Votes?

Thanks,

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] 4th Annual Labor Day Circum-Lake-ation

[Gary Brower]

All, 

Once again, I’ll be birding around Cherry Creek Reservoir on Labor Day 
(September 4). I’ll start at the Tower Loop at about 6:30am and will work 
clockwise around the Lake. We have generally finished around 2:00 - 2:30. The 
entire walk is about 12 miles. As in the past, I hope to have someone meet us 
at the 12-mile Lot who can ferry folks back to the Tower Loop, should they 
decide not to do the whole circuit.

There are a couple of challenges this year, as a result of the flooding that 
affected the park. First, the road that connects the east and west sides of 
Cherry Creek State Park is still cut, so entry to the park (i.e., to get the 
Tower Loop) must be from the Parker Road (i.e., east) entrance. Second, we will 
cross Cherry Creek at the far south end of the park—but that’s the point of 
“no-return”, as the east-west cross-park trails are closed between that 
southern-most bridge and the face of the dam. 

The current weather forecast is for high temps in the mid-to-upper 80’s . . . a 
lot cooler than last year!

If you have any questions, let me know!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Congrats to Luke Pheneger for finding a First State Record today...in Nebraska.

[Gary Brower]

Indeed!

It has shown up in the ABA Rare Bird Alert FB group already!

Kudos!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Apr 7, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Elena Holly Klaver  wrote:
> 
> what a great report! 
> 
> Elena Holly Klaver
> United States Court Certified Interpreter
> Conference Interpreter English < > Spanish
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> Member: 
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> American Translators Association (ATA)
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> 
> I acknowledge that I live in the territory of Hinóno'éí  (Arapaho) and 
> Cheyenne nations, according to the 1851 Treaty of Fort Laramie, and that 
> Colorado's Front Range is home to the Ute and many other Native peoples.  
> Reconozco que vivo en el territorio de las naciones Hinóno’éí (Arapaho) y 
> Cheyenne, según el Tratado de Fort Laramie en 1851, y que el estado de 
> Colorado al este de las Montañas Rocosas es territorio de los Utes y muchos 
> otros pueblos indígenas. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2023, at 3:36 PM, Peter Burke  wrote:
>> 
>> Luke and I set out to bird in and around the Pawnee National Grassland this 
>> morning. One of our main targets was Sharp-tailed Grouse, and we found a 
>> total of four: one fly-over and a group of three just south of the Nebraska 
>> state line.
>> 
>> A few minutes later, while we were still in Colorful Colorado, Luke spotted 
>> three birds that turned out to be Western Bluebirds. Luke noted that the 
>> birds were technically in Nebraska, and decided to create a new eBird list, 
>> then had the presence of mind to check on the status of Western Bluebird in 
>> Nebraska. With just a few clicks and swipes on his phone, he determined that 
>> this sighting might in fact be a first for the state of Nebraska.
>> 
>> We hastily acquired a few documentary photos, posted the list to eBird and 
>> within minutes had confirmation that it was indeed a first state record. 
>> Congrats to Luke!
>> 
>> Birding on the prairies was delightful with sunny skies and no wind. 
>> American Kestrels were moving through in numbers, terrorizing the last few 
>> flocks of Lapland Longspurs as well as the early-arriving Chestnut-collared 
>> and Thick-billed Longspurs. We had great scope views of at least nine 
>> Mountain Plovers, an encouraging count for sure.
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Peter Burke
>> Boulder, CO
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[cobirds] ID help

[Gary Brower]

Friends,

I was birding this afternoon on the Big Dry Creek Trail (in Centennial, CO 
—Arapahoe County).  And I’m stumped.

Into a tree flew two birds. One clearly a House Finch (red head and all). The 
other was similarly-sized, but with no red. What it did have, however, was a 
V-shaped set of feathers on its (back) — i.e., from the upper parts of each 
folded wing, with the “tip” of the “v” just above there rump. Again, house 
finch sized; finch bill. If not for the white pattern, I would have just called 
it a female house finch.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
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[cobirds] Bohemian Waxwing Question

[Gary Brower]

CoBirders,

Since I already “have” BOWA on my Arapahoe county eBird list, I no longer get 
alerts about sightings. I only saw one a couple of weeks ago, and I’d love to 
see more (and often eBird reports can give me that information). 

What’s the best way to query eBird for single species information in one 
county?  I’ve poked around the “Explore” tab, but can’t seem to get it right.

And, thanks for all the great BOWA conversation the last few days; it’s been 
great!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe county

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Re: [cobirds] Using eBird graphs

[Gary Brower]

Thanks, David!

This is a really helpful explanation.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 4:33 PM, David Suddjian  wrote:
> 
> Hi CoBirders. Sorry for another post from me today, but my summary of 
> Buff-breasted Sandpiper high counts prompted questions about using eBird 
> graphs. I hope this brief summary is useful. Also attached as a pdf. --David
> 
> 
> 
> Many eBirders may not be familiar with or even aware of the graph features 
> you can access from Bar Charts. This was how I dove a little deeper into the 
> Buff-breasted Sandpiper (BBSA) story, and a feature I’ve used to help 
> understand status and distribution in my Bird Bombs.
> 
> In Explore, select Bar Charts and then proceed to choose whatever region you 
> are interested in. You can choose the whole state, or individual counties. 
> (Or you may view a bar chart via a hot spot or region you are looking at). 
> You can include multiple counties in one chart, so if you want to look at the 
> Metro area, you can choose those several counties.
> 
> https://ebird.org/GuideMe?cmd=changeLocation 
> <https://ebird.org/GuideMe?cmd=changeLocation>
> When you have a bar chart opened, go to a species of interest and click on 
> the line graph icon to the right of the species name (circled below in Figure 
> 1)
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Figure 1. Bar chart for Colorado with the line graph icon circled.
> 
>  
> Then you will see a line graph showing the species’ frequency of occurrence 
> (% of all complete checklists for the eBird week) (Figure 2). Frequency is 
> the default graph that is presented, and it is one of the most useful. It is 
> a linear portrayal of the bar chart image. And there are several other 
> options listed above the chart, presenting different measures (Figure 2). I 
> used the High Count option to look at BBSA, but in general the Abundance 
> graph is very useful for looking at seasonal change and comparing among 
> species. The different measures are defined from a link at the bottom of each 
> graph page. I recommend reading the explanations.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Figure 2. Frequency graph for BBSA in Colorado. Note options above the graph.
> 
>  
> Above each graph are options to Change Species or Change Date (Figure 2). 
> Change Species allows you to switch to a different species, but also to view 
> up to 5 species at once. This is excellent for comparing timing and relative 
> numbers among similar species. Here is a graph of comparing BBSA with some 
> other rare shorebirds (Figure 3). Of these rarer but regular shorebirds I 
> selected, we can see that the AMGP occurs more often than the others, BBSA 
> and SBDO peak earlier and share similar timing, while DUNL is later than the 
> others.
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> Figure 3.  A comparison of frequency of occurrence for four rare but regular 
> shorebirds.
> 
>  
> If you Change Date, you have the option to show consecutive years separately 
> for one species. Select a range of years at the bottom of the Change Date 
> screen and choose the start year and end year (up to 5 years) and click the 
> box to show separate years (Figure 4).
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Figure 4.  From Change Date you can select different years or a range of 
> years. Click on the box if you want to show consecutive years for one species.
> 
>  
> Now you can compare BBSA over several years (Figure 5). The graph shows that 
> BBSA frequency is always very low, and that while there is a general peak in 
> late August to early September, each year is a little different where the 
> records fall and the season peaks. The best time seems to be a mere 3-week 
> period at best, most years. Wow there is a lot to learn here.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Figure 5. BBSA frequency over five years 2015-2019,
> 
>  
> David Suddjian
> 
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Re: [cobirds] nice night flight, early Fri., Sept. 9, Boulder Co.

[Gary Brower]

I am sitting on my deck (near Cherry Creek State Park) right now, listening to 
at least three Great Horned Owls calling at/to each other. I’m out every 
morning at this time, and this is the first time I’ve heard so many, so 
insistent!  Wonderful start to the day!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Sep 9, 2022, at 6:03 AM, Ted Floyd  wrote:
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> Hey, all. Was out during the 4am hour this morning, Fri., Sept. 9, in 
> Lafayette, Boulder Co., where a decent night flight was in progress. The 
> weather was clearing at the time, with a low but disorganized cloud deck and 
> some very light drizzle giving way to mostly starlit skies.
> 
> I don't hear the high-pitched flight calls of warblers and sparrows nearly as 
> well as I did ~15 years ago, when I was listening compulsively at night in 
> Colo., but, still, it reminded me of one of those strong flight nights from 
> yesteryear. I heard 4 Swainson thrushes for sure, amid the "tseep" and "zeet" 
> notes of sparrows and warblers.
> 
> The great horned owls--two pairs duetting--were marvelous.
> 
> Orthopterans: snowy tree crickets, fall field crickets, Allard ground 
> crickets, and presumed Carolina ground crickets and western tree crickets. 
> Didn't hear any this morning, but in the 8pm hour yesterday evening, Thurs., 
> Sept. 8: greater angle-wing katydids and Plains harvest-flies.
> 
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> Boulder Co.
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[cobirds] Labor Day Cherry Creek SP birding

[Gary Brower]

Oops — To be clear . . . I’m talking about meeting at 12-Mile NORTH, accessed 
from E. Lake View Road, near where the road crosses Cherry Creek.

-

Fellow birders!

For the last couple of years, I’ve gone on an unofficial walk around Cherry 
Creek Reservoir.  This year, I will cut the “circum-lake-ation” short (for 
reasons having nothing to do with the birds).

But, should anyone desire to join me in birding the East Side of the lake, from 
Tower Loop to 12-Mile (including the Swim Beach, Pelican Point, and Shop 
Creek), I’d love to have company. 

My suggestion is that we meet at 12-Mile (parking just inside the entrance) at 
6:15. From there, we’ll carpool to Tower Loop and start the walk. When we’re 
done at 12-Mile, there should be a ride for anyone who needs a lift back to 
Lake Loop.

Sorry for the late notice/reminder, but life has gotten in the way of the birds 
this year.

I look forward to it!  My cellphone is 303-501-6659

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Labor Day Cherry Creek SP birding

[Gary Brower]

Fellow birders!

For the last couple of years, I’ve gone on an unofficial walk around Cherry 
Creek Reservoir.  This year, I will cut the “circum-lake-ation” short (for 
reasons having nothing to do with the birds).

But, should anyone desire to join me in birding the East Side of the lake, from 
Tower Loop to 12-Mile (including the Swim Beach, Pelican Point, and Shop 
Creek), I’d love to have company. 

My suggestion is that we meet at 12-Mile (parking just inside the entrance) at 
6:15. From there, we’ll carpool to Tower Loop and start the walk. When we’re 
done at 12-Mile, there should be a ride for anyone who needs a lift back to 
Lake Loop.

Sorry for the late notice/reminder, but life has gotten in the way of the birds 
this year.

I look forward to it!  My cellphone is 303-501-6659

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] ID help/suggestions?

[Gary Brower]

COBirders,

This afternoon I was at the “Bird Observation Platform” at Cherry Creek SP 
(Prairie Loop). 

Out on one of the sandbars was a lone bird working the waterline. Plover/Robin 
sized. Dark (black/gray, not brown) head and back. Distinctive white 
supercilium. White chin/upper breast, with bold streaking further down the 
breast. Black legs and bill (short-medium length). 

I do not carry a camera (other than my phone), and there was no way I could get 
a good picture with my phone.  When I got home, and started looking through my 
NatGeo 7th, the closest things I could find was Western Sandpiper. I’m not 
accustomed to them being here this early. 

Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Arapahoe County, near Cherry Creek SP

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Re: [cobirds] ID help

[Gary Brower]

Thanks to all for the ID help.

I’ll stick with Virginia’s Warbler.  My main reason for doubting (and asking 
for help) was eBird’s flagging it as “Rare”.

the other suggestions folks have made didn’t quite fit.  Kinglet didn’t have 
the yellow wash that I saw so clearly. Yellow-rumps didn’t have the complete 
eye-ring, and the breast on my bird had no streaking. Pine Warbler is even 
trickier.

Any way thanks for all of your help!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Lynne Forrester  wrote:
> 
> Why do you doubt Virginia's? I've seen them in the suburbs in early fall, 
> especially in brushy areas around water. Have you also considered 
> Nashville.?I find them very similarly this time of year and have seen both 
> together in the fall as well.
> 
> Lynne Forrester 
> Jefferson County
> From: cobirds@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Gary 
> Brower 
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:51:50 PM
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> Subject: [cobirds] ID help
>  
> Friends, 
> 
> I know this is a challenge, but I could use some help. Here’s the description 
> of a bird I saw this morning in Cherry Creek SP, semi-near Cherry Creek HS:
> 
> Warbler shaped/sized. White eye-ring. Pale yellow wash on throat, and 
> extending down each side of the breast.. Fluttering in top of tree. Some 
> wing-barring. Chest was buff-colored.
> 
> In looking through field guides, I ruled out vireos. Not a sparrow, clearly. 
> The closest thing (by picture) was Virginia’s Warbler…..but I highly doubt 
> that!
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County 
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[cobirds] ID help

[Gary Brower]

Friends,

I know this is a challenge, but I could use some help. Here’s the
description of a bird I saw this morning in Cherry Creek SP, semi-near
Cherry Creek HS:

Warbler shaped/sized. White eye-ring. Pale yellow wash on throat, and
extending down each side of the breast.. Fluttering in top of tree. Some
wing-barring. Chest was buff-colored.

In looking through field guides, I ruled out vireos. Not a sparrow,
clearly. The closest thing (by picture) was Virginia’s Warbler…..but I
highly doubt that!

Suggestions?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] 2021 Circum-Lake-Cation results

[Gary Brower]

COBirders!

A huge debt of thanks to Quinn Pack (who walked the whole thing with me again — 
he say’s “Next year there will be T-Shirts!"), Jayne and George James (who were 
part of the walk from Pelican Point to a bit past Shop Creek), my wife (at 
12-mile Trail), and a bevy of birders/photographers at Pelican Point (all of 
whose names I can’t remember, so I won’t try)!  

The 12-mile walk (7-1/2 hours) around the lake netted 59 species.  Considerably 
down from the prox 70 last year!  Quinn and I talked a lot about how “odd” was 
this year for birds.  But there were some goodies:  Tennessee Warbler, Sora 
(SEEN, not just heard!), Franklin’s Gull and Forster’s Tern were, for me, fun 
to see. Tennessee Warbler was a life bird!  

In the non-birding category, we saw a bat (!) working the area just south of 
road, near the turn-off to "12-mile Picnic Area/Dog park” and a coyote in the 
“prairie”-like area along Cherry Creek Trail south of the Shooting Range,

I was bummed to learn that Black Tern had been seen just before we arrived at 
Pelican Point, and again about 1/2 hour after we left. Such is birding!  On the 
other hand, we got to see another kind  of bird — a war-bird — as one of the 
last operative B-17 bombers was making its annual visit to Centennial Airport.

BTW, it was 59 degrees when we left Tower Loop, and 91 degrees when we got back 
— much like last year.  And the Park was no-where near as crowded this year 
last.  

Put Labor Day, 2022 on your calendars now (well, I know, Labor Day 2022 IS 
already on your calendars . . . . but the Circum-Lake-Cation needs to be there 
too!!

Gary Brower
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[cobirds] Labor Day Circum-Lake-ation (again)

[Gary Brower]

Good morning, birders!

Just a reminder that I’ll be birding around Cherry Creek Reservoir on Monday, 
should anyone choose to join me. If things are like last year, I’ll probably 
hit Pelican Point between 8:30 and 9:00, and 12-mile around 10:00.

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way 'round Cherry Creek Reservoir on Labor Day. Several folks joined me for 
some or all of that walk. We tallied over 70 species.

I’m going to do it again this year (Monday, September 6). I will leave the Lake 
Loop about 6:30 (as I did last year), and go clockwise around the lake, 
including the 12-mile Trail (which means heading north on the Cherry Creek 
Trail and/or the Railroad Bed Trail). 

My experience this year in birding Cherry Creek State Park has been that the 
number of both species and individuals has been “down”. I wonder if that will 
be borne out on Labor Day as well!

Let me know if you’re interested in joining in. That way we can share contact 
information for specific segment meet-ups. 

Good birding!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



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Re: [cobirds] Western Meadlowlarks - Front Range

[Gary Brower]

in my walks through Cherry Creek State Park, I’d say I saw pretty much the 
“normal contingent” of meadowlarks — maybe slightly less than last year.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



> On Sep 1, 2021, at 5:28 PM, 'Hugh Kingery' via Colorado Birds 
>  wrote:
> 
> Denver Audubon received a note from an observer in Central Park, who says 
> that she hasn't encountered Meadowlarks this year. We Cobirders do well in 
> posting what we do see, but not so well in discussing what we don't see.
> 
> As far as our patch here in Franktown (Douglas) we have about the normal 
> contingent. They sang quite a bit in June, and have tapered off since then, 
> as usual.
> 
> Do any of you have any thoughts?
> 
> Hugh 
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Re: [cobirds] Magpie Flyby - west Centennial near Holly & Arapahoe, Arapahoe County

[Gary Brower]

As I have been doing my daily walks around Cherry Creek State Park (the west 
side), I’ve seen large flocks of magpies as well.  Last week there was a flock 
of about 25 on the ground. This morning, there were two flocks flying over — 
each with about 30-40 birds.

I don’t remember seeing that last year, for sure!


Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



> On Aug 25, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Wayne Wathen  wrote:
> 
> When I went for a run yesterday on the Highline Canal from the Orchard 
> parking lot, running north, I also saw a fairly large flock of Magpies mostly 
> in a dead tree around milepost 5.  Likely the same flock I assume.  
> 
> Wayne Wathen
> Highlands Ranch, Douglas County
> 
> From: kevygudguy via Colorado Birds 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 4:03 PM
> To: cobirds@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: [cobirds] Magpie Flyby - west Centennial near Holly & Arapahoe, 
> Arapahoe County
>  
> Hello Fellow Birders,
>  
> While sitting on our east-facing porch this afternoon my wife and I observed 
> a flyby of at least 100 magpies.  They were flying west in squadrons of 2 to 
> 8 birds, 10 - 20 seconds apart.  All on the same 'path' through the trees.  
> Mostly quiet, just a few calls from time to time.
>  
> When we came into the house an hour later there about 10 magpies at the 
> feeders and on the ground in our little townhouse yard.  Annihilated the suet 
> cake!
>  
> Keep Smilin',
> Kevin Corwin
> West Centennial in Arapahoe County
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[cobirds] Labor Day Circum-Lake-ation (again)

[Gary Brower]

Good afternoon, friends!

Some of you may recall that, last year, I decided I would bird my way all the 
way 'round Cherry Creek Reservoir on Labor Day. Several folks joined me for 
some or all of that walk. We tallied over 70 species.

I’m going to do it again this year (Monday, September 6). I will leave the Lake 
Loop about 6:30 (as I did last year), and go clockwise around the lake, 
including the 12-mile Trail (which means heading north on the Cherry Creek 
Trail and/or the Railroad Bed Trail). 

My experience this year in birding Cherry Creek State Park has been that the 
number of both species and individuals has been “down”. I wonder if that will 
be borne out on Labor Day as well!

Let me know if you’re interested in joining in. That way we can share contact 
information for specific segment meet-ups. 

Good birding!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



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[cobirds] Loggerhead Shrike

[Gary Brower]

CoBirders,

How nice, after living and birding in Colorado for 14+ years to get a State 
Life Bird without going out and looking for one that’s been reported!

On my morning walk through Cherry Creek State Park, I stumbled upon a 
Loggerhead Shrike sitting calmly atop a mullen.  For anyone interested, it was 
on the inside corner area where Belleview turns into Peoria, about 100 yards 
north of the Boat Storage Yard.

Good birding!

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Re: [cobirds] Sound ID

[Gary Brower]

Thanks, Chuck,

It would make sense that to communicate with Merlin, one would “tweet”. . .  
but I don’t either.

Gary

> On Jul 10, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Charles Hundertmark  
> wrote:
> 
> Here’s what Merlin folks offer as a feedback route:
> 
> "If you’ve tried Sound ID in Merlin, we’d love to hear about your experience. 
> You can get in touch on Twitter, where the Macaulay Library is 
> @MacaulayLibrary <https://twitter.com/macaulaylibrary?lang=en>."
> 
> I’ve avoided Twitter, so doesn’t work for me.
> 
> Chuck
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Gary Brower > <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Chip, Jeff, Charles, et al,
>> 
>> Thanks for the great info on the backgrounds of BirdNet and Merlin. I know 
>> that these will get better in time. 
>> 
>> Is there a way to let the Merlin-ites know of the false/problematic ID of 
>> the Pine Warbler (in my case), so that they can use that feedback to tweak 
>> things in subsequent releases?
>> 
>> Gary Brower
>> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Chip Clouse >> <mailto:chip.clo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ran into Andrew Spencer and Nathan Pieplow out on the Pawnee a couple of 
>>> weeks ago and Andrew basically said (if I understood correctly) that 
>>> Birdnet and Merlin were different teams of Cornell etc. researchers working 
>>> on the same question separately. He said Merlin should be more accurate 
>>> than Birdnet and will also get better with time. It only recognizes a 
>>> limited number of species currently and I've had it suggest crazy things 
>>> way out of range. Eventually it will be amazing and I'm already impressed.
>>> 
>>> Chip Clouse
>>> Erie, CO
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 12:37 PM Gary Brower >> <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Thanks, Jeff.
>>> 
>>> I used Bird Net too, before Merlin.  I agree about Merlin’s interface being 
>>> a lot more user-friendly.I wasn’t sure how to do the upload, though, so 
>>> your email was helpful.
>>> 
>>> BirdNet says Dark-Eyed Junco, with Chipping Sparrow second, and Flammulated 
>>> Owl third.  I’ll go with DEJU!
>>> 
>>> Interesting, that BirdNet was (is?) associated with Cornell, too . . . and 
>>> that they’d give such different results!
>>> 
>>> Gary Brower
>>> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Jeff Percell >>> <mailto:jeff.perc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've been using the Merlin Bird Sound app since it was first released in 
>>>> beta. I've found that while it's amazing, I've also seen several false 
>>>> IDs, particularly when there is some background noise such as wind. 
>>>> 
>>>> You also might try to upload the audio here, which is the API behind Bird 
>>>> NET, which is an app I was using prior to Merlin (which I've now switched 
>>>> over to Merlin because it's a lot more user friendly).
>>>> 
>>>> https://birdnet.cornell.edu/api/ <https://birdnet.cornell.edu/api/>
>>>> 
>>>> Also, you might upload your sound somewhere that makes it a little easier 
>>>> for others to view, such as an eBird checklist (which as the ID is in 
>>>> question, upload it as Passerine sp. initially). 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jeff Percell
>>>> Weld County
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 7:52:32 PM UTC-6 grb...@gmail.com 
>>>> <http://gmail.com/> wrote:
>>>> COBirders, 
>>>> 
>>>> Yesterday, I participated in David Hallock’s Indian Peaks Breeding Bird 
>>>> Count. My “area” was the Woodland Lake Trail (accessed from Hessie 
>>>> Trailhead, near Nederland). I kept hearing a bird that I couldn’t quite 
>>>> identify. It didn’t sound quite like a Chipping Sparrow or Dark-eyed 
>>>> Junco, so I thought I’d try the new Merlin Bird Sound app (which is 
>>>> amazing, I must say). Without hesitation, or providing any other 
>>>> suggestions, it identified the sound/bird as a Pine Warbler. Since eBird 
>>>> designates that bird as “rare”, I don’t want to say that that’s what it 
>>>> was, solely on the basis of the call. 
>>>> 
>>>> I have a recording that I’m happy to share, if someone woul

Re: [cobirds] Sound ID

[Gary Brower]

Chip, Jeff, Charles, et al,

Thanks for the great info on the backgrounds of BirdNet and Merlin. I know that 
these will get better in time. 

Is there a way to let the Merlin-ites know of the false/problematic ID of the 
Pine Warbler (in my case), so that they can use that feedback to tweak things 
in subsequent releases?

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



> On Jul 10, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Chip Clouse  wrote:
> 
> I ran into Andrew Spencer and Nathan Pieplow out on the Pawnee a couple of 
> weeks ago and Andrew basically said (if I understood correctly) that Birdnet 
> and Merlin were different teams of Cornell etc. researchers working on the 
> same question separately. He said Merlin should be more accurate than Birdnet 
> and will also get better with time. It only recognizes a limited number of 
> species currently and I've had it suggest crazy things way out of range. 
> Eventually it will be amazing and I'm already impressed.
> 
> Chip Clouse
> Erie, CO
> 
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 12:37 PM Gary Brower  <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thanks, Jeff.
> 
> I used Bird Net too, before Merlin.  I agree about Merlin’s interface being a 
> lot more user-friendly.I wasn’t sure how to do the upload, though, so 
> your email was helpful.
> 
> BirdNet says Dark-Eyed Junco, with Chipping Sparrow second, and Flammulated 
> Owl third.  I’ll go with DEJU!
> 
> Interesting, that BirdNet was (is?) associated with Cornell, too . . . and 
> that they’d give such different results!
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Jeff Percell > <mailto:jeff.perc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been using the Merlin Bird Sound app since it was first released in 
>> beta. I've found that while it's amazing, I've also seen several false IDs, 
>> particularly when there is some background noise such as wind. 
>> 
>> You also might try to upload the audio here, which is the API behind Bird 
>> NET, which is an app I was using prior to Merlin (which I've now switched 
>> over to Merlin because it's a lot more user friendly).
>> 
>> https://birdnet.cornell.edu/api/ <https://birdnet.cornell.edu/api/>
>> 
>> Also, you might upload your sound somewhere that makes it a little easier 
>> for others to view, such as an eBird checklist (which as the ID is in 
>> question, upload it as Passerine sp. initially). 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff Percell
>> Weld County
>> 
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 7:52:32 PM UTC-6 grb...@gmail.com 
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>> 
>> Yesterday, I participated in David Hallock’s Indian Peaks Breeding Bird 
>> Count. My “area” was the Woodland Lake Trail (accessed from Hessie 
>> Trailhead, near Nederland). I kept hearing a bird that I couldn’t quite 
>> identify. It didn’t sound quite like a Chipping Sparrow or Dark-eyed Junco, 
>> so I thought I’d try the new Merlin Bird Sound app (which is amazing, I must 
>> say). Without hesitation, or providing any other suggestions, it identified 
>> the sound/bird as a Pine Warbler. Since eBird designates that bird as 
>> “rare”, I don’t want to say that that’s what it was, solely on the basis of 
>> the call. 
>> 
>> I have a recording that I’m happy to share, if someone would like to help me 
>> (and Merlin) make the right (pardon the pun) “call”. 
>> 
>> Thanks so much! 
>> 
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Re: [cobirds] Sound ID

[Gary Brower]

Thanks, Jeff.

I used Bird Net too, before Merlin.  I agree about Merlin’s interface being a 
lot more user-friendly.I wasn’t sure how to do the upload, though, so your 
email was helpful.

BirdNet says Dark-Eyed Junco, with Chipping Sparrow second, and Flammulated Owl 
third.  I’ll go with DEJU!

Interesting, that BirdNet was (is?) associated with Cornell, too . . . and that 
they’d give such different results!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



> On Jul 10, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Jeff Percell  wrote:
> 
> I've been using the Merlin Bird Sound app since it was first released in 
> beta. I've found that while it's amazing, I've also seen several false IDs, 
> particularly when there is some background noise such as wind. 
> 
> You also might try to upload the audio here, which is the API behind Bird 
> NET, which is an app I was using prior to Merlin (which I've now switched 
> over to Merlin because it's a lot more user friendly).
> 
> https://birdnet.cornell.edu/api/
> 
> Also, you might upload your sound somewhere that makes it a little easier for 
> others to view, such as an eBird checklist (which as the ID is in question, 
> upload it as Passerine sp. initially). 
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff Percell
> Weld County
> 
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 7:52:32 PM UTC-6 grb...@gmail.com wrote:
> COBirders, 
> 
> Yesterday, I participated in David Hallock’s Indian Peaks Breeding Bird 
> Count. My “area” was the Woodland Lake Trail (accessed from Hessie Trailhead, 
> near Nederland). I kept hearing a bird that I couldn’t quite identify. It 
> didn’t sound quite like a Chipping Sparrow or Dark-eyed Junco, so I thought 
> I’d try the new Merlin Bird Sound app (which is amazing, I must say). Without 
> hesitation, or providing any other suggestions, it identified the sound/bird 
> as a Pine Warbler. Since eBird designates that bird as “rare”, I don’t want 
> to say that that’s what it was, solely on the basis of the call. 
> 
> I have a recording that I’m happy to share, if someone would like to help me 
> (and Merlin) make the right (pardon the pun) “call”. 
> 
> Thanks so much! 
> 
> Gary Brower 
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[cobirds] Sound ID

[Gary Brower]

COBirders,

Yesterday, I participated in David Hallock’s Indian Peaks Breeding Bird Count. 
My “area” was the Woodland Lake Trail (accessed from Hessie Trailhead, near 
Nederland). I kept hearing a bird that I couldn’t quite identify. It didn’t 
sound quite like a Chipping Sparrow or Dark-eyed Junco, so I thought I’d try 
the new Merlin Bird Sound app (which is amazing, I must say). Without 
hesitation, or providing any other suggestions, it identified the sound/bird as 
a Pine Warbler.  Since eBird designates that bird as “rare”, I don’t want to 
say that that’s what it was, solely on the basis of the call.

I have a recording that I’m happy to share, if someone would like to help me 
(and Merlin) make the right (pardon the pun) “call”. 

Thanks so much!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Reuter-Hess

[Gary Brower]

Thank you Kathy!

I’ve heard from a lot of different folks, including Tim.  I understand what’s 
going on, and I very much appreciate all of the comments.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Kathy and Jeff Dunning  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary/all -
> 
> I corresponded with Tim Ryan who kindly confirmed that access remains 
> "restricted".  The hotspot name will continue to indicate such until the 
> access is no longer restricted.
> 
> Please utilize the website Diane provided for further information and 
> guidance.  If you have further questions, they should be directed to the 
> phone number on the website.
> 
> Good birding,
> Kathy Mihm Dunning
> Denver
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 6:52 PM Gary Brower  <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thanks Diane!
> 
> To those CoBirders that have “influence” with eBird — is this something that 
> is/should be reflected there?  I’m not making an issue — just raising a 
> question.
> 
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Diane Roberts > <mailto:samatha5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Gary & Cobirds,
>> 
>> Rueter-Hess has portions open to the public now for hiking. There is, also, 
>> paddle boarding. Tim Ryan works with Parker Water, takes out scheduled 
>> birding trips & DFO is resuming trips there post-pandemic. Below is a link 
>> for more information. 
>> 
>> Hope this helps, 
>> 
>> Diane Roberts
>> Highlands Ranch, CO 
>> 
>> http://rhrecreation.org/ <http://rhrecreation.org/>
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Gary Brower >> <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> CoBirders,
>>> 
>>> The eBird Hotspot for Reuter-Hess Reservoir states that it is 
>>> “restricted-access”.   Is that still the case (I know it was during the 
>>> reservoir’s construction)?  Do the folks reporting birds from that site 
>>> have special permission? Or is the eBird description out-of-date?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Gary Brower
>>> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
>>> 
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Re: [cobirds] Reuter-Hess

[Gary Brower]

Thanks Diane!

To those CoBirders that have “influence” with eBird — is this something that 
is/should be reflected there?  I’m not making an issue — just raising a 
question.


Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



> On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Diane Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Gary & Cobirds,
> 
> Rueter-Hess has portions open to the public now for hiking. There is, also, 
> paddle boarding. Tim Ryan works with Parker Water, takes out scheduled 
> birding trips & DFO is resuming trips there post-pandemic. Below is a link 
> for more information. 
> 
> Hope this helps, 
> 
> Diane Roberts
> Highlands Ranch, CO 
> 
> http://rhrecreation.org/ <http://rhrecreation.org/>
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Gary Brower  wrote:
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>> CoBirders,
>> 
>> The eBird Hotspot for Reuter-Hess Reservoir states that it is 
>> “restricted-access”.   Is that still the case (I know it was during the 
>> reservoir’s construction)?  Do the folks reporting birds from that site have 
>> special permission? Or is the eBird description out-of-date?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Gary Brower
>> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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[cobirds] Reuter-Hess

[Gary Brower]

CoBirders,

The eBird Hotspot for Reuter-Hess Reservoir states that it is 
“restricted-access”.   Is that still the case (I know it was during the 
reservoir’s construction)?  Do the folks reporting birds from that site have 
special permission? Or is the eBird description out-of-date?

Thanks!

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Re: [cobirds] Dickcissel Cherry Creek State Park Arapahoe

[Gary Brower]

Thanks, Steve,

I walk through that area about once-a-week, now, hoping I’ll hear/see one of 
them again.  It sounds like they’ve (it has) returned!

Gary Brower
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> This morning we had a dickcissel singing away on an olive tree, about .3 
> miles south of the park gun range; right along the long-closed stretch of 
> Jordan Road that runs adjacent to the narrow gauge RR berm. Got good looks 
> and good listens. Just east of where they were hanging out last year. 
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Re: [cobirds] rehabber recommendation resource?

[Gary Brower]

Might one of the Administrators of the FB groups “Pin” this information to the 
top of the Group?

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Jun 3, 2021, at 8:28 AM, 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds 
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> I give people the 
> Wild Bird Rehab number: (303) 927-7348
> Greenwood rehab/sanctuary: (303) 823-8455
> There is the Pueblo raptor rehab, I don’t have their number. 
> 
> Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county 
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>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 8:04 AM, Diana Beatty  wrote:
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>> 
>> In the CFO and other similar Facebook groups, injured birds are a very 
>> common theme and the vast majority of posters do not have information about 
>> how to find/contact a local rehabber.  Is anyone aware of a resource that 
>> people could be directed to that could be pointed to in these points for 
>> people to find help for the birds quickly?
>> 
>> Diana Beatty
>> El Paso County
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[cobirds] Bobolinks in Cherry Creek State Park

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CoBirders,

A week ago, several birders recorded Bobolinks in Cherry Creek State Park (via 
eBird). Unless you had alerts set for Arapahoe County or Colorado, you may not 
have seen the reports.

I went out this morning and found at least one (although some of the prior 
reports reported more). The individual I saw was just east (50 feet or so) of 
the Lone Tree Pond at the south-west end of the park. It was perched on some 
mullen in a patch of rabbit bush. It was clearly a bobolink — gold patch on the 
back of the neck and upper shoulders, white on the wings. Much smaller than the 
numerous red-winged blackbirds and grackles (including Great-tailed). (This 
area is near where the Dickcissels were found last year, but to the south by 
several hundred yards).

According to eBird, bobolinks are “rare” in the park, having been reported in 
only four individual weeks in the last 10 years (the second and third weeks of 
May, and the second and fourth in June).

Happy birding!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Code (blue)?

[Gary Brower]

Steve,

Thanks. All I find is the whole checklist for the ABA area.  Is there a 
tab/menu that allows for state lists?

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County


> On May 20, 2021, at 11:21 AM,   wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> The codes are included on the current ABA checklist.  It can be downloaded 
> from the ABA website as a .csv (Excel) file.
> 
> Good Birding,
> 
> Steve Stachowiak
> Highlands Ranch, CO
> 
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> Brower
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> To: COBIRDS 
> Subject: [cobirds] Code (blue)?
> 
> Hi CoBirders,
> 
> Does anyone have (or know how to generate) a listing of the ABA “Codes” for 
> Colorado Birds?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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[cobirds] Code (blue)?

[Gary Brower]

Hi CoBirders,

Does anyone have (or know how to generate) a listing of the ABA “Codes” for 
Colorado Birds?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Woodpecker drumming

[Gary Brower]

Diana and David,

Thanks so much.  I think that, tomorrow (assuming I hear it again), I’ll record 
it. And then I can slow it down and count the beats.  At my age, I can’t 
distinguish between 16 and 23 beats/sec. ;-)

I have a bunch of vocal flickers around, so I imagine it was one of them.  But 
there are some Downys in my ‘hood as well—I just hear the less frequently.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



> On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:16 AM, Diana Beatty  wrote:
> 
> Downy's drums averagesabout 16 beats/sec and Flickers is more like 23 
> beats/sec.  Hairy is about 25 beats/sec.  My personal experience is that 
> Downy waits longer between consecutive drums, on average.  You may also want 
> to listen for the other sounds of Downy and Flicker.  Flickers, in my 
> opinion, are relatively vocal birds that if they're around you'll hear them 
> at some point in most days just going about your business in that location.  
> Maybe some others have some better tips than me.
> 
> Diana Beatty
> El Paso County
> 
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:23 AM Gary Brower  <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Good morning, birders!
> 
> I’m sitting on my deck this morning, and listening to a woodpecker drum. I 
> suspect it’s either a Flicker or a Downy, but it’s much too far away to see.
> 
> Is there a distinctive drum for either of these birds?
> 
> Thanks!
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[cobirds] Woodpecker drumming

[Gary Brower]

Good morning, birders!

I’m sitting on my deck this morning, and listening to a woodpecker drum. I 
suspect it’s either a Flicker or a Downy, but it’s much too far away to see.

Is there a distinctive drum for either of these birds?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] FOS Say's Phoebes, Boulder County

[Gary Brower]

In walking through Cherry Creek State Park this morning, I saw my first Say’s 
Phoebe of the season as well!  (And a Western Meadowlark!)

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 3:24 PM, Charles Hundertmark  
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> When I opened my garage door to head out birding this morning, I heard a 
> Say’s Phoebe singing down the street. The bird was at a house where it has 
> held territory for many years now. A short time later, along Boulder Creel 
> near 75th Street, another Say’s was singing on a territory also held for many 
> years. Fascinating synchronicity of arrival. 
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[cobirds] Mexican Duck at Cherry Creek SP?

[Gary Brower]

COBirders,

No, this isn’t a report of a sighting, but a follow-up to the bird that was 
reported several weeks ago.  There was some question about whether it actually 
was a MEDU. Has the “verdict” been handed down (either way) by our 
knowledgeable folk yet?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
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Re: [cobirds] NM birding guide - free

[Gary Brower]

What Ira said.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County


> On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Douglas Kibbe  wrote:
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> Agreed. 
> Doug Kibbe
> 
> From: cobirds@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Ira 
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:54 AM
> To: David Suddjian 
> Cc: Sibylle Hechtel ; Colorado Birds 
> 
> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Re: NM birding guide - free
>  
> Well David, I  feel Chris Fleuriel was doing a service for cobirders in 
> offering that book and don't see a problem with it. 
> Ira Sanders
> 
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 9:12 AM David Suddjian  <mailto:dsuddj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Dear CoBirders,
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> This is a Colorado Birds list, so let's keep discussion focused there, 
> please. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> David Suddjian
> CoBirds list moderator
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> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 8:16 AM Sibylle Hechtel  <mailto:sibylle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I'd love it! I'm heading south to NM, and Bosque del Apache, in March! 
> 
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 8:21:38 PM UTC-7 chrisf...@gmail.com 
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> Next month I will be returning to New England. I have a practically brand new 
> copy of Birding Hot Spots of Central New Mexico that I probably won't be 
> needing. Are there any takers? I live in Aurora, but am willing to mail it. 
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Re: [cobirds] Another bird with a deformed beak, Denver Cty, 12/31/2020

[Gary Brower]

This one almost looks less “deformed” and more “disfigured” . . . like the 
lower mandible was broken off.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Feb 15, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Thomas Heinrich  wrote:
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> Here's a photo of a Woodhouse's Scrub Jay taken at 11th and Knox in Denver 
> county on December 31, 2020. 
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Re: [cobirds] Barr Lake State Park Eagles, Eagls everywhere, plues a Rusty Black bird, Adams County

[Gary Brower]

Thanks for the pointer to the app!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Feb 10, 2021, at 8:44 AM, KATHY HOLLAND  wrote:
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> Jen,
>  
> I just found out about a cool APP last night for ID'ing raptors.  It's called 
> Raptor ID by HawkWatch International and it's free!  Gobs of photos and in 
> all color morphs.
>  
> Kathy Holland
> Centennial, CO
>> On 02/09/2021 3:19 PM Jen Toews  wrote:
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>>  
>> I was also at Barr Lake on Monday and had a similar experience. We counted 
>> 32 eagles at the gazebo alone and saw a ton more on the way there. My low 
>> estimate on eBird was 40 but we were thinking we probably saw between 50 and 
>> 55. 
>> The sun was hitting the mallards' and redheads' heads just right and the 
>> effect was dramatic: hundreds of metallic green and red heads bobbing in the 
>> rough waters. The sheer numbers of Northern Pintails and Ring-necked Ducks 
>> was also a pleasant surprise for me. Despite the windchill and feeling 
>> uncomfortable much of the time, it ended up being one of my favorite days at 
>> Barr Lake. 
>> Would you be able to share a photo of the Rough-legged Hawk? I think that 
>> might be the unidentified raptor that had us completely stumped despite the 
>> fact that it gave us really good looks. Gotta work on my raptor ID...
>> Congrats on hitting your 1500 mile marker! 
>> 
>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-7 bunting...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I have been continuing the ebird  challenge of a complete checklist a day 
>> challenge. Today I hit 1500 days.
>> So with such a milestone I headed out to Barr Lake today. It was a cold day 
>> at around 10 with a windchill bellow that, but I was bundled up and carrying 
>> around 20 ponds of gear (scope, tripod, big camera plus the backpack with 
>> water and food) so I didn't notice that much except when I as the gazebo 
>> scopeing the lake, then I did.
>> Highlights of course were the Bald Eagles, I got 50 in total, braking 
>> ebird's filter. That could be an over count, it could be a under cont. They 
>> were flying around enough to make it hard. One of the best parts of so many 
>> eagles was they were vocalizing a lot, it was fun to listen to that awesome 
>> call.
>> Along with the eagles there was two hug rafts of Redheads and Ring-billed 
>> ducks with some Scaups, both Lesser and Greater, along with some 
>> Canvasbacks. Then there was that hug raft of Mallards near the gazebo along 
>> with more Northern Pintails, around 120, then I have seen together. There 
>> was also three American White Pelicans that over wintered.
>> After leaving the gazebo I walked further past the 2.5 mile marker and 
>> crossed over the inflow canal where I found a hug flock of Red-winged 
>> Blackirds. After picking over that mob, about 120, I found a young Rusty 
>> Blackbird in the flock.
>> Another highlight was a dark morph Rough-legged Hawk.
>> Good birding,
>> Brian Johnson,
>> Englewood CO
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[cobirds] Swamp Sparrow - ARAPAHOE County?

[Gary Brower]

Good afternoon, COBirders,

I was out this afternoon, getting in some “looks” before the weather begins to 
change tomorrow.

I was fortunate to run into some folks who helped guide me to the Swamp 
Sparrow(s) south of C-470 at the “beaver dam”.  (I missed the Rusty Blackbirds 
. . . .)

Especially in that area of the S. Platte, one can be in three counties on one 
eBird list if one isn’t careful. So, when I got home, I did some VERY detailed 
map-gazing and found that that beaver pond/oxbow area of Marcy Gulch is in 
Douglas County. (I would have preferred Arapahoe — just sayin’.)

So, I’m wondering if there have been sightings of the SWSP elsewhere in 
ARAPAHOE County (including north of C-470)? Especially in that area of the S. 
Platte, one can be in three counties on one eBird list if one isn’t careful.

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Joe Roller sad news

[Gary Brower]

This is very sad.

I never met Joe, but I received numerous emails from him on questions I’d 
raised on CO Birds. Always gracious.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Nov 25, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Larry Modesitt  wrote:
> 
> Cobirders,
> 
> The very sad news is that Joe died last night of cancer just after midnight. 
> His wife Maryanne said that despite his pain, he was still cracking jokes 
> with the nurses yesterday morning. “He made me laugh every single day,” she 
> said. Either one of their boys, Dan and Tom, was always able to be with him 
> for the past month. 
> 
> I was out running with my dog when Joe corralled us decades ago. That’s how I 
> became one of many people Joe introduced to birding. That led to us birding 
> together all over Colorado and the world. Joe’s love of teaching folks about 
> birds, almost always with a humorous insight, continued through his illness. 
> He was a valuable contributor to Denver Field Ornithologists, Bird 
> Conservancy of the Rockies, Colorado Field Ornithologists, and the medical 
> community. There has never been anyone like Joe Roller, and he will be missed 
> greatly.
> 
> We can believe that last night just after midnight, St. Peter laughed harder 
> than he had all year.
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Re: [cobirds] Hudson Garden Birds

[Gary Brower]

Thanks for information!

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:18 AM, chrisfleur...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> There is no fee. 
> 
> Chris Fleuriel
> Aurora
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Gary Brower  wrote:
>> 
>> CoBirders,
>> 
>> Are the Varies Thrush and the Brown Thrasher being seen from OUTSIDE the 
>> Gardens? That is does one need to pay the entry fee?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Gary Brower
>> Unincorporated Arapahoe County 
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[cobirds] Hudson Garden Birds

[Gary Brower]

CoBirders,

Are the Varies Thrush and the Brown Thrasher being seen from OUTSIDE the
Gardens? That is does one need to pay the entry fee?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Trouble with eBird?

[Gary Brower]

Yes me too.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Oct 13, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Susan Rosine  wrote:
> 
> It's working again, at least for me!
> Susan Rosine
> Brighton, Adams county
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Re: [cobirds] Sandhill Cranes flyover @ RM Arsenal NWR (Adams Co)

[Gary Brower]

Just saw both of them (the Sandhill Cranes)—or at least two other similarly 
sized groups—flying over Cherry Creek SP between 1:30 and 1:40pm.

As couple of F-14s took off from Centennial Airport and threw the smaller crowd 
into a tizzy!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Oct 2, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Patrick O'Driscoll  wrote:
> 
> Add A group of another 160 Sandhill Cranes on the same route south over the 
> refuge
> 
> Patrick O’Driscoll 
> Denver
> 
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 11:58 AM Patrick O'Driscoll  <mailto:patodr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Just now, 34 birds circling high over Lake Mary and southbound, rattling 
> softly. 
> Firld Sparrow continues @ SE corner of Lake Mary (south of boardwalk)
> 
> 
> Patrick O’Driscoll 
> Denver 
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[cobirds] ID Suggestions

[Gary Brower]

Good afternoon, friends!

i was out in Cherry Creek SP, just across Belleview from the “neighborhoods” — 
Prairie Dog Town.  I thought I saw what looked like a Says Phoebe fly to the 
top of a low bush. It was almost immediately joined by another — definitely NOT 
SAPH.  This one was had a pretty gray breast/chest, with a darkish head, and 
bluish back/wings. And then when it flew, its blue rump was quite apparent. 

Given size (i.e., Says Phoebe) and overall shape (it was more “svelte” then 
plump), I thought bunting, but INBUs are pretty rare (according to EBird). It 
had no wing bars, which seems to rule out BLGR. Simliarly, it had no 
rusty/orange anywhere, ruling out EABL or WEBL (neither of which gets much 
EBird love). 

Any chance they could have been a Mountain Bluebirds — how often are they seen 
down here — EBird suggests “infrequent” and “unreported”.

Thanks so much!


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Re: [cobirds] Migration notes from NM

[Gary Brower]

I don’t know if this qualifies (i.e., it’s not about songbirds), but . . .

I regularly bird a small pond on the west edge of Cherry Creek SP. Like many, 
it has shrunk like crazy over the last couple of months. But that didn’t seem 
to phase the 20+ mallards that seemed to call it home (along with 3 or 4 
killdeer, 2 domestic geese, and the occasional BCNH, GBHU, and SNEG). 

I went by there a week ago today, and all was “normal” (in terms of the bird 
population). The next time I went by—Wednesday, the 9th—at least half of the 
mallards were dead, as were both domestic geese. The killdeer continued to work 
the mudflats.

Of course, what had happened between last Sunday and Wednesday was the “big 
chill and snow”. But would that have killed so many waterfowl?   The other pond 
I regularly check had no similar fatalities (although today there was NO bird 
life whatsoever — even though yesterday there were a handful of ducks).

Just seems strange to me . . .

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



> On Sep 13, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Scott Severs  wrote:
> 
> Looks as if migratory songbird species were pushed to the limits culminating 
> in a massive die off event just to the south of us. Please report any large 
> numbers of deceased birds to the US Fish and Wildlife Service. 
> 
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[cobirds] Sound ID help?

[Gary Brower]

COBirders,

While birding a neighborhood right across Belleview Ave. from Cherry Creek SP, 
I had a brief sighting of a medium-sized flycatcher-ish bird. Plain, light 
colored breast, gray-green back. Couldn’t catch a glimpse of wing-bars or any 
thing.

It shot from some eaves of a house into a nearby tree, where it disappeared.  
It chattered a bit in flight, and very clearly called “(Quick) Three Beers” — 
except without the “Quick”. I waited to see if it would call again, but no luck 
(it may have flown on and I didn’t see it). It didn’t look dark enough to be a 
OSFL.

Any ideas?  Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Big Lake Day redux

[Gary Brower]

Good afternoon, COBirders!

What a fun day walking around Cherry Creek State Park! I’m so grateful for ALL 
who joined in for all, or part, of the walk:  Quinn, Dwayne, Cinnamon (who came 
up from CO Sprgs), Colleen, Joey, Ken, and Susan. And, of course, we bumped 
into a bunch of other birdy people along the way

Quinn, Dwayne, Cinnamon and I started at Tower Loop at 6:30a: temperature - 
50º. Quinn and I ended at Tower Loop at 2:45p: temp - 91º. We ran into Joey at 
the Swim Beach, and again at 12-mile (where he put us onto a Hammond’s 
Flycatcher). Colleen and Susan (dear spouse) joined the merry band at 12-mile. 
Ken joined in for a while, too, at 12-mile.  Folks peeled off as their 
schedules (or bodies) demanded.  

The overall route took us south from the Tower Loop, along the lake to Pelican 
Point, then “overland” (via the Shop Creek Trail, with some bush-whacking) to 
the 12-mile Trail, continuing south to the bridge over Cherry Creek, and then 
north along the creek. Onto the Cherry Creek Trail until the Cottonwood Creek 
Wetlands, then on lakeside trails ’til the Marina. Finishing with the dam trail.

By the numbers (at least for ME . . .):

Logistics:
11.86 miles
8 hrs, 10 mins

Total Birds on the day:  73

Birds (for my lists):
1 Colorado Bird:
Pectoral Sandpiper
8 Arapahoe County Birds:
Pectoral Sandpiper (duh!)
Wilson’s Warbler (30+)
Peregrine Falcon
Bairds Sandpiper (2)
Lark Bunting (3)
Hammonds Flycatcher
Rock Wren (4)

Other (semi-)notable birds:
Lincolns Sparrow
Bald Eagle
Forster's Tern
Ruddy Ducks (a cool flock that kept us busy trying to identifying them)
Yellow-headed blackbirds — a bunch at the Swim Beach area
Northern Shoveler
Osprey
Sage Thrasher
Virginia Rail
Woodhouse’s Scrub-Jay
Lark Bunting
Eastern Kingbird
Rock Wren (4)
Savannah Sparrow (4 or so) 

Unfortunate "misses” (since 75 would’ve been a nice round number):
Townsends Warbler
Spotted Sandpiper
Rock Pigeon (!)

Again, thanks to all who joined me on my “folly”! It was suggested that this 
become an annual event. I’m game!

Sore legs, and all . . . .

Gary Brower
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[cobirds] Big Lake Day

[Gary Brower]

Good evening birders,

As I wrote some weeks ago, it’s been my plan to bird around Cherry Creek Rsvr 
on Monday (Labor Day). That plan is a “go.”  And I’m so grateful to everyone 
who provided suggestions! They were so helpful!

My plan, therefore, is to start at Tower Loop around 0615 (sunrise is 0637), 
and head clockwise around the lake, checking Dixon Grove, Swim Beach and 
Pelican Point. (I’m not going to bird the campground.) I will include a walk 
down the 12-mile trail (I’ll see how I’m doing time-wise to determine whether 
I’ll cross Cherry Creek and come down the paved trail). I’ll then head down the 
west side of the lake, keeping as close to the water as possible. Going by the 
West Shades will probably be quick, as it’ll be busy. Then to the Marina and 
across the front of the dam back to the car.

I’m hoping to arrive at the 12-mile trail area about 0930 (and meet my wife 
there for that portion). That’s the only semi-certain time point. 

Again, there’s no official “intent” to this. It’s just my way of spending Labor 
Day. But if anyone would like to tag along, I’ll be wearing my mask!

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Mockingbird in CCSP - update

[Gary Brower]

Slight emendation:

eBird doesn’t show NOMO having been seen inside the park in August (or 
September) over the last 10 years. There are some scattered reports in the data 
base since 1900 in different months (or more than 10 years ago for September), 
but still never for August.

Striving for accuracy!

Gary



Friends,

I saw, what I’m fairly sure was, a Northern Mockingbird late this morning in at 
the prairie-dog town on the west side of Peoria — the Vista Trail (across from 
the Cottonwood Creek wetlands). While my eBird checklist wouldn’t indicate it, 
it was within Cherry Creek State Park.

eBird shows NOMO as “infrequent” in the area, and the bar chart for Arapahoe 
County shows that. But I don’t see any records for Cherry Creek State Park!

Of course, there have been a couple of other NOMO sightings in the county in 
the last couple of days!

Surprising!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Mockingbird in CCSP

[Gary Brower]

Friends,

I saw, what I’m fairly sure was, a Northern Mockingbird late this morning in at 
the prairie-dog town on the west side of Peoria — the Vista Trail (across from 
the Cottonwood Creek wetlands). While my eBird checklist wouldn’t indicate it, 
it was within Cherry Creek State Park.

eBird shows NOMO as “infrequent” in the area, and the bar chart for Arapahoe 
County shows that. But I don’t see any records for Cherry Creek State Park!

Of course, there have been a couple of other NOMO sightings in the county in 
the last couple of days!

Surprising!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Big Lake Day

[Gary Brower]

Thanks Ben! 

I wasn’t really thinking about it (originally) as a “Big Day” — mostly just a 
way to spend a whole day in one location, albeit with a variety of habitats.

 I’ve had a couple of other suggestions very similar to yours — in terms of 
where to start.

I’ll post more as we get closer.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



> On Aug 9, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Ben S  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary, 
> I don't know if you are trying for a big day type of thing but I think 
> hitting the trees around the picnic shelter at the smoky hill area would be 
> worth it for Townsend's Warbler and maybe other warblers (Orange-crowned, 
> possibly eastern ones). I don't know if the picnic area at 12 mile parking 
> lot is near your planned route but it may be worth a shot for migrants, as 
> well as rails in the cattails nearby. Keep an out for Cassin's Vireo - very 
> nice bird that will be coming through by then. As for where to start, the 
> only owls I've had around this time of year there are Great Horned, which 
> could be seen at any part of the park. I think starting at the east side may 
> be better because migrating warblers seem to be more sensitive to time of day 
> than waterbirds (which marina is good for). Anyway, good luck!
> 
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[cobirds] Big Lake Day

[Gary Brower]

COBirders (especially those who bird Cherry Creek SP with any regularity),

One side benefit of the COVID-enforced “stay-closer-to-home” edicts has been 
that I’ve spent HOURS birding—while walking dear daughter’s dog—a little patch 
of Cherry Creek State Park (around the corner where Belleview turns into 
Peoria).  Yes, I’ve forayed into other areas of the park (previously unknown) . 
. . to great benefit.  Yay — Dickcissel!

And, I’ve met some wonderful birders since March!

I’ve decided that I would like to bird AROUND the lake — yes, walk all of the 
way around the lake!  And I’ve chosen to do it on Labor Day; it may become an 
annual “event”. And I would like your help!

First, my plan is to walk around the lake (which means that the far south end 
of the park isn’t on the itinerary — not so sure about Butterfly Hill). The 
question is, in order to maximize the number of species seen, where to start, 
and in which direction to go (clockwise or counter-clockwise),  Sunrise on 9/7 
is at 0633.  What might that suggest (i.e., regarding owls)?

Second, I may take a “side trip” — either towards the dog park, or down the 
railroad trail. I’ll probably wait to see what appears on eBird for those two 
areas . . . but, given any absence of timely data from those “hotspots”, which 
might be the most productive?

Third, when I have the starting point identified (with start-time), and the 
direction plotted, I’d LOVE to have anyone join me! If there are enough 
“takers”, we could shared cell-phone info, and coordinate meeting along the way.

All this said, I am not trying to make this an “official” thing — either with 
DFO or Denver Audubon or anything else.  I’ll do it regardless. Other silly 
people may choose to join in!

Any help/suggestions/comments/critiques are welcome!

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Printing eBird data?

[Gary Brower]

Diana,

Thanks.  Problem previously solved (see a later email).

Since the total print job was about 11 pages, and the bar charts don’t easily 
lend themselves to screenshots, that wasn’t workable.

Gary

> On Aug 4, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Diana Beatty  wrote:
> 
> Would taking a screen shot and printing the image file work?
> 
> Diana Beatty
> El Paso
> 
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 1:28 PM Gary Brower  <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> CoBirders. . .
> 
> (Especially those with great knowledge of eBird!)
> 
> I’m trying to print a collection of bar charts from eBird.  But all I am able 
> to print is the name of the bird 9and the two little icons to the right of 
> the species name).  The bar charts themselves do not print.
> 
> Does anyone know what’s going on, and how to get around it? I’ve tried saving 
> it to pdf, and that doesn’t work either.  The only thing that has worked has 
> been taking screen shots . . . but that’s incredibly tedious.
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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Re: [cobirds] Printing eBird data?

[Gary Brower]

Bryan, et al,

Thanks Bryan  . . .

Bill Schmoker came up with the easy solution:

> The issue is in the print dialog on the computer side- when printing a web 
> page like that, after hitting print but before continuing look for a box to 
> check saying “print background images” or something like that.

That solved the problem!

So, thanks to Bill!

Gary

> On Aug 4, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Bryan Guarente  wrote:
> 
> I have a solution, but it is complicated.  If you are using Chrome, Edge, 
> Opera, or Safari, this should work:
> Open the bar chart you are interested in printing.
> Open the Javascript Console (CTRL+SHIFT+C or CMD+SHIFT+C)
> In the new window that pops up, the second tab across the top of that window 
> should be "console".  Click on console.  
> In that tab, then you can paste in the following next to the greater than 
> sign (>):
> $(".b1, .b2, .b3, .b4, .b5, .b6, .b7, .b8, 
> .b9").css("-webkit-print-color-adjust", "exact")
> 
> Then print the document and you should get the bar chart.
> 
> Ask questions, because I am sure there will be some.  
> 
> Thanks for the fun foray into fixing poor CSS/HTML
> Bryan
> 
> Bryan Guarente
> Meteorologist/Instructional Designer
> UCAR/The COMET Program
> Boulder, CO
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 1:28 PM Gary Brower  <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> CoBirders. . .
> 
> (Especially those with great knowledge of eBird!)
> 
> I’m trying to print a collection of bar charts from eBird.  But all I am able 
> to print is the name of the bird 9and the two little icons to the right of 
> the species name).  The bar charts themselves do not print.
> 
> Does anyone know what’s going on, and how to get around it? I’ve tried saving 
> it to pdf, and that doesn’t work either.  The only thing that has worked has 
> been taking screen shots . . . but that’s incredibly tedious.
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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[cobirds] Printing eBird data?

[Gary Brower]

CoBirders. . .

(Especially those with great knowledge of eBird!)

I’m trying to print a collection of bar charts from eBird.  But all I am able 
to print is the name of the bird 9and the two little icons to the right of the 
species name).  The bar charts themselves do not print.

Does anyone know what’s going on, and how to get around it? I’ve tried saving 
it to pdf, and that doesn’t work either.  The only thing that has worked has 
been taking screen shots . . . but that’s incredibly tedious.

Thanks so much.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Re: Binocular parts?

[Gary Brower]

All,

A follow-up on this.  I received several suggestions to call Leica.  I did so 
this morning. They will be sending me some replacement eyecups free of charge. 
The only down-side is that I have black binos, and the eyecups are green . . .  
  I’ll consider them a fashion statement.

Thanks for all of the help!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Aug 1, 2020, at 8:54 AM, Gary Brower  wrote:
> 
> CoBirders . . .
> 
> I have a pair of late-’80’s Leitz/Leica 8x40 Trinovids. I LOVE my binocs!
> 
> This morning, while out birding, one of the eyecups came off . . . and rolled 
> into a sewer grate (of course!). No way to retrieve it. 
> 
> Does anyone have a suggestion as to who to contact for a replacement(s)?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Binocular parts?

[Gary Brower]

Thanks to all.  I’ll give ‘em a call on Monday.

> On Aug 1, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Richard Trinkner  
> wrote:
> 
> I sent my 1990s Leicas to Leica service earlier this year because the focus 
> mechanism had become sticky. They fixed the binos and returned them to me 
> within a week at no charge! I'd just contact Leica.
> 
> Richard Trinkner
> Boulder
> 
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 8:54 AM Gary Brower  <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> CoBirders . . .
> 
> I have a pair of late-’80’s Leitz/Leica 8x40 Trinovids. I LOVE my binocs!
> 
> This morning, while out birding, one of the eyecups came off . . . and rolled 
> into a sewer grate (of course!). No way to retrieve it. 
> 
> Does anyone have a suggestion as to who to contact for a replacement(s)?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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[cobirds] Binocular parts?

[Gary Brower]

CoBirders . . .

I have a pair of late-’80’s Leitz/Leica 8x40 Trinovids. I LOVE my binocs!

This morning, while out birding, one of the eyecups came off . . . and rolled 
into a sewer grate (of course!). No way to retrieve it. 

Does anyone have a suggestion as to who to contact for a replacement(s)?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] eBird question

[Gary Brower]

Thanks Hugh, for confirming that I’m not an outlier!

The other thing this underlines is the “helpfulness” of using more specific 
hotspots (like Cherry Creek SP - Railroad Bed). And for putting more specific 
details in the notes.

I’m not saying something new . . . just reiterating what we’ve been discussing 
over the last few weeks.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County (right next to Cherry Creek SP)

> On Jul 19, 2020, at 1:32 PM, 'Hugh Kingery' via Colorado Birds 
>  wrote:
> 
> I second Gary's question. When Cynthia reported the Scissor-tailed Flycatcher 
> last month, you had to go through all the Cherry Creek SP sites to find the 
> details. An aggregate would have helped to find the site & details more 
> easily. 
> 
> Unfortunately, Doug's bar charts don't help with specific sighting searches. 
> Does anyone have a different solution?
> 
> On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 6:21:40 AM UTC-6, Gary Brower wrote:
> Good morning! 
> 
> I have an eBird question, the answer to which I can’t find on their website. 
> 
> Is it possible to aggregated hotspots for a report.  In other words, there 
> are multiple hotspots associated with Cherry Creek State Park (including the 
> park itself being a hotspot). Is it possible to select ALL of those hotspots 
> to generate a listing, rather than going through each one separately? 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> Gary Brower 
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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Re: [cobirds] Durango, end of month?

[Gary Brower]

Thanks to all who made fabulous suggestions regarding Durango!

I admit, I’ keep forgetting about the County Birding website.

WE keep (re-)learning!

Gary Brower
Uninocrporated Arapahoe County



> On Jul 18, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Jim Beatty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> If you have some particular species you're looking for and how far you might 
> like to travel, I might be able to give you some suggestions.  We're getting 
> to the time of year when birds aren't calling very much and a little harder 
> to find, but many are still present.
> 
> For general birding the Durango Fish Hatchery can be good (the Surf Scoter is 
> still there as of yesterday), as are several spots along the Animas River.  
> Pastorius SWA is a little slower this time of year and Zink's Pond has some 
> nesting species.  Grace's Warbler is harder to find as they're not singing 
> and generally stay high in the ponderosa pines.
> 
> Let me know what you might like to look for.
> 
> Jim Beatty
> 
> -Original Message- From: Gary Brower
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 6:14 AM
> To: Colorado Birds
> Subject: [cobirds] Durango, end of month?
> 
> Good morning, COBirders,
> 
> Dear spouse and I will be in Durango at the end of the month (staying a bit 
> north of town, near Hermosa). I’ve looked at the eBird data, but I’m 
> wondering if locals can suggest one of the “hot-spots” over another? We can 
> easily travel down-town, or further up into the mountains.
> 
> Thanks so much!
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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Re: [cobirds] eBird question

[Gary Brower]

Thanks, Doug!

Another birder privately emailed me with the same info!

Love this resource (COBirds!).

Good birding!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 7:30 AM, Douglas Kibbe  wrote:
> 
> Gary:
> I believe the closest one can come to preparing a composite listing/"report" 
> you describe is via the bar chart option under "Explore"
> This option allows you to derive a bar chart from the following subregions:  
> the entire state, up to 15 counties, several hotspots, selected important 
> bird areas, or "my locations".
> The resulting bar chart will allow you to pull up a map of each species 
> within the geographic region covered by the subregion(s) you have selected.
> Bar charts are extremely useful when visiting a state or county you are 
> unfamiliar with. They provide a good overview of the species likely to occur, 
> when they are apt to be present, and where the past and current sightings 
> have been.
> They would be even more useful if they showed which species have been 
> reported recently but to ascertain current sightings you must click on the 
> species map symbol in the chart.
> 
> Good luck
> Doug Kibbe
> Littleton, Jefferson County
> From: cobirds@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Gary 
> Brower 
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 6:21 AM
> To: Colorado Birds 
> Subject: [cobirds] eBird question
>  
> Good morning!
> 
> I have an eBird question, the answer to which I can’t find on their website.
> 
> Is it possible to aggregated hotspots for a report.  In other words, there 
> are multiple hotspots associated with Cherry Creek State Park (including the 
> park itself being a hotspot). Is it possible to select ALL of those hotspots 
> to generate a listing, rather than going through each one separately?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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[cobirds] eBird question

[Gary Brower]

Good morning!

I have an eBird question, the answer to which I can’t find on their website.

Is it possible to aggregated hotspots for a report.  In other words, there are 
multiple hotspots associated with Cherry Creek State Park (including the park 
itself being a hotspot). Is it possible to select ALL of those hotspots to 
generate a listing, rather than going through each one separately?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Durango, end of month?

[Gary Brower]

Good morning, COBirders,

Dear spouse and I will be in Durango at the end of the month (staying a bit 
north of town, near Hermosa). I’ve looked at the eBird data, but I’m wondering 
if locals can suggest one of the “hot-spots” over another? We can easily travel 
down-town, or further up into the mountains. 

Thanks so much!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] GRSP

[Gary Brower]

COBirders,

Several folks have reported (on EBird) that they’ve seen Grasshopper Sparrow on 
the Railroad Bed in Cherry Creek State Park.  Any more specific 
instructions/details (north end? South end?)?

Thanks so much!

Gary Brower
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Re: [cobirds] CCSP Dog Training Area?

[Gary Brower]

Thanks to you all.  I didn’t know the difference between “Sport-Dog Training 
Area” and "Off-Leash”.  Makes sense.  And I know that part of the park VERY 
well, as I ride my bike on that road all the time.  I guess I’d never seen the 
sign.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 7:22 AM, Cynthia Madsen  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Gary,
> 
> This is an area just south of the Gun Club where hunting dogs are trained so 
> it is not the dog park.  Walk south through the gate on Jordan Road by the 
> Gun Club, follow the fence line that’s on the right side (west) until it 
> ends.  You will see a sign that says “Sport Dog Training Area.”  The 
> Scissor-tail was on the hillside just beyond the sign.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Cynthia Madsen
> 
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 6:24 AM Gary Brower  <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Friends,
> 
> In the reports about the Scissor-tailed Fly Catcher, there are references to 
> a “Dog-Training Gate” or area off the Railroad Bed near the Shooting Range. 
> Can someone explain this to me? My understanding is that the only off-leash 
> area in the park is the designated one on the southeast “corner” by Orchard 
> and Parker. Otherwise the regulations are that dogs are leashed at all times. 
> If that’s the case, what does “Dog-training Gate” imply?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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[cobirds] CCSP Dog Training Area?

[Gary Brower]

Friends,

In the reports about the Scissor-tailed Fly Catcher, there are references to a 
“Dog-Training Gate” or area off the Railroad Bed near the Shooting Range. Can 
someone explain this to me? My understanding is that the only off-leash area in 
the park is the designated one on the southeast “corner” by Orchard and Parker. 
Otherwise the regulations are that dogs are leashed at all times. If that’s the 
case, what does “Dog-training Gate” imply?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Trespassing at Box Elder Creek

[Gary Brower]

Wow,

Following all of these posts makes me wonder whether there’s someone (not me) 
who — as happened some months ago with a different property — who can approach 
the REAL owner (whether its DIA or someone else) and get a definitive answer. 
Is this a DFO issue? Or something like that?

It would seem that the “right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing”.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County 
(A long ways south of the area in question!)
 

> On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Robert Raker  wrote:
> 
> Sorry to hear this Karen. I was out there on June 7th and got chased out by 
> this totally obnoxious guy from Petropro Engineering, I assume one of the oil 
> field service companies out there. He hassled Bil and I and said we were on 
> private property owned by the airport and he was going to call the airport 
> security guys and they would prosecute as we could be muslim terrorists. Not 
> a pleasant experience and we never did get to see the RHWO of OROR.
> 
> Rob Raker
> Lakewood, CO
> Jefferson County
> 
> On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 11:58:17 AM UTC-6, Karen Drozda wrote:
> I drove out to Box Elder Creek today to catch an Orchard Oriole. I was 
> stopped by DIA patrol and was told this is was airport land and restricted. 
> PLEASE! Do not go out there to bird. The guy who stopped me said that it will 
> soon be patrolled by Homeland Security etc. due to it being restricted. I 
> assured him I would get the word out. Thanks. BTW no OROR :(  
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Re: [cobirds] Where are the Orioles? Jefferson Co

[Gary Brower]

We’ve had both Orchard and Bullocks in Cherry Creek State Park in the last few 
weeks.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:20 AM, David Gulbenkian  wrote:
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> Haven't seen an oriole this year.  None in the Wheatridge Greenbelt.
> Why not?  
> David G.  Jeffco
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[cobirds] Red-headed Woodpecker, CCSP, Arapahoe County

[Gary Brower]

Good morning, birders!

This morning (about 9:15), just north of the intersection of Belleview and 
Havana, in the “wetlandsy-creekbed” I found a lovely Red-headed woodpecker!  
Very conveniently clinging to a snag on the top of a dead tree.  I was able to 
get very good looks at it (I don’t carry a camera). 

Nice to get an unexpected State/County bird!

Earlier, down near the Cottonwood Creek pond (the one near the wild-life 
overlook), but downstream from the pond, I had a very striking Eastern Kingbird 
working the liminal zone between some willows and the meadows. 

Surprises await!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County




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Re: [cobirds] [ACC] Hunting/Fishing license required to enter SWAs starting July 1

[Gary Brower]

CPW Commission requires a valid hunting or fishing license to access all State 
Wildlife Areas and CPW-leased State Trust Lands

DENVER – A valid hunting or fishing license will be required for everyone 18 or 
older attempting to access any State Wildlife Area or State Trust Land leased 
by Colorado Parks and Wildlife, beginning July 1.


> On May 4, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Ann Reeves  wrote:
> 
> This is Annie Reeves
> Is a Duck Stamp adequate for entry?
> 
> On Mon, May 4, 2020, 12:38 Pam Piombino  > wrote:
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Peg Rooney mailto:drpe...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:32 AM
> Subject: [ACC] Hunting/Fishing license required to enter SWAs starting July 1
> To: Unknown  >
> 
> 
> CPW Commission requires a valid hunting or fishing license to access all 
> State Wildlife Areas and CPW-leased State Trust Lands
> 
> DENVER – A valid hunting or fishing license will be required for everyone 18 
> or older attempting to access any State Wildlife Area or State Trust Land 
> leased by Colorado Parks and Wildlife, beginning July 1.
> 
> The rule change was adopted unanimously April 30 by the Colorado Parks and 
> Wildlife Commission.
> 
> “By policy, state wildlife areas are acquired with hunter and angler dollars, 
> and are intended specifically to provide wildlife habitat and 
> wildlife-related recreation,” Southeast Regional Manager Brett Ackerman told 
> the commission at its meeting. “This rule is aimed at curtailing 
> non-wildlife-related use of these properties. 
> 
> At the meeting, Ackerman presented examples from across the state of the 
> increasing use of state wildlife areas inconsistent with their purpose, 
> including set up of temporary residences, vehicular use on big game winter 
> range, vandalism, and other uses detrimental to wildlife and wildlife-related 
> uses.
> 
> “There’s certainly an impact on staff and resources, potential public health 
> impact, degradation of habitat and displacement of wildlife,” Ackerman told 
> commissioners. “There is a pattern of non-wildlife related issues we’re 
> seeing out there.”
> 
> Beginning on July 1, 2020, anyone entering a state wildlife area or state 
> trust land leased by CPW must hold either a valid hunting or fishing license 
> in Colorado.
> 
> Ackerman emphasized that, “As with all new regulations, especially one as far 
> reaching as this, our policy is to first educate. Especially when talking to 
> constituent users of state wildlife areas, we want to help people understand 
> why we’re taking this action. We’re not seeking to catch people off guard and 
> write them tickets. We want to curtail non-wildlife use of these properties 
> and return them to their original intended purpose.”
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[cobirds] Sandpiper behavior?

[Gary Brower]

All,

This morning I was at CCSP Swim Beach and saw a couple of smallish calidrid
sandpipers. They both seemed to pump their tails a lot. I don’t remember
that kind of behavior (I really just don’t remember — it’s been a long time
since I’ve seen some!)

Is that characteristic of calidrids in general, or of just one species? Or
were they just trying to maintain their balance?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Teals x 3 in CCSP

[Gary Brower]

Karl,

Lucky you!

As I said in my OP, I probably wouldn’t have seen this unless COVID-restrained! 
 Unrelated to teal, the same afternoon yielded VIRA (as a county bird). 

Moral of story . . . spend more time in your “backyard”!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Karl Stecher Jr.  wrote:
> 
> I've had that phenomenon many times, same place.  Green-wings come in first 
> in the spring, leave last in the fall.
>  
> About thirty years ago I had the famous garganey at Sombrero Marsh.  Those 
> teal were also there.  I have a good picture (somewhere, probably could find 
> it) of a lateral view diamond pattern of the gargany and bl-w and gr-w flying 
> together, total four birds.
>  
> Karl Stecher
> Aurora/Arapahoe
>  
>  
>  
> From: "Gary Brower" 
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
> To: "Colorado Birds" 
> Subject: [cobirds] Teals x 3 in CCSP
>  
> COBirders,
> 
> I can’t remember seeing all three teals (BW, GW & Cinnamon) in the same body 
> of water at the same time. Today, in one of the Cottonwood Creek Ponds, I got 
> lucky.
> 
> I will say that, if it hadn’t been for COVID, I might have wandered a bit 
> further afield (while still staying in Arapahoe County) . . . but it was a 
> nice afternoon of wandering CCSP.
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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[cobirds] Teals x 3 in CCSP

[Gary Brower]

COBirders,

I can’t remember seeing all three teals (BW, GW & Cinnamon) in the same body of 
water at the same time. Today, in one of the Cottonwood Creek Ponds, I got 
lucky.

I will say that, if it hadn’t been for COVID, I might have wandered a bit 
further afield (while still staying in Arapahoe County) . . . but it was a nice 
afternoon of wandering CCSP.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Siri - ous?

[Gary Brower]

Birders,

I’m taking this week to become more familiar/adept with my iPhone’s Siri.

Does anyone know (I can’t find anything on the website) if Siri is able to be 
used with eBird?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County 

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Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home

[Gary Brower]

I, personally, see no need to suspend the forum.  We can use it for other, 
totally-appropriate, bird-related things, than the RBA.

For example, someone the other day wondered about presence of GBHEs in their 
“area”. Over the last two days in my “area” —Cherry Creek SP—I’ve seen 
(perhaps) three: at least two, plus another single (which may have been one of 
the two).  I doubt anyone here is going to “chase” a GBHE, but some folks might 
be interested in keeping track of their appearance.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 3:26 PM, 'Jean Stevenson' via Colorado Birds 
>  wrote:
> 
> I agree that the Rare Bird Alert should be suspended temporarily.  Let those 
> who are determined to chase rarities call each other as they used to do.  Jean
>  
> =J=
>  
> From: Allison Hilf <mailto:allisonh...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:09 PM
> To: libbyeu...@gmail.com <mailto:libbyeu...@gmail.com>
> Cc: fiddlen...@aol.com <mailto:fiddlen...@aol.com>; cgoulart...@comcast.net 
> <mailto:cgoulart...@comcast.net>; Colorado Birds 
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> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Staying at Home
>  
> I think suspending the RARE BIRD ALERT is appropriate; but think we should 
> encourage people to discuss birds AND bird behavior in their 
> yards/neighborhoods in this group.   The decision to suspend the RBA is not 
> mine, as I am only one of the Volunteer Compilers.   We are having a 
> difficult time deciding what to do, all input is appreciated.
>  
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:52 PM Libby Edwards  <mailto:libbyeu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I agree!  Reporting of birds is so fun and precious to read about, especially 
> some of the bird behavior ones lately.  Do not stop this!!  We can certainly 
> report from our homes and neighborhoods.
> 
> This morning we had a song sparrow at our feeder, along with a leucistic 
> white headed male house finch!  The pair of Bush tits are still there as well 
> as the usual heard birds.
> 
> Libby Edwards 
> Fort Collins
> 
> > On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:46 PM, 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds 
> > mailto:cobirds@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > In response to your suggestion to suspend this bird list, I would ask that 
> > we please keep it going! I see birds at my home that I like to report and I 
> > like to see other peoples reports of birds coming in even if it’s in your 
> > backyard.
> > 
> > Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Chris Goulart  >> <mailto:cgoulart...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I have been a safety professional for about 25 years, and recently 
> >> transitioned to working in the healthcare industry as a safety 
> >> professional.
> >> 
> >> I would agree with all of the statements urging being very conservative 
> >> when it comes to travel for the time being. I understand that means 
> >> missing spring migration, but any exposure at this juncture is really not 
> >> acceptable.  I would also agree with the sentiment that posting about 
> >> birds that are likely to make people take risks in going to see them is 
> >> not advisable.
> >> 
> >> Personally, I would go so far as to say that this google groups list 
> >> should be suspended until all shelter in place orders have been lifted.  
> >> Telling people about the location of interesting birds will only serve to 
> >> motivate people to travel to those locations to try to see them. 
> >> Unfortunately, as some people have pointed out, the chances of a traffic 
> >> crash or other situations where you find yourself exposed to people cannot 
> >> be completely eliminated when you are out birding. The only way to truly 
> >> eliminate the risk is to just stay at home.
> >> 
> >> Please do not find yourself going to local hotspots to go birding. I know 
> >> we may all think that we can self isolate, but you still have to 
> >> potentially interact with other people and the chances of spreading the 
> >> virus right now are just too high. Remember, it’s not just about your own 
> >> personal exposure, it’s also about being a potential vector for spreading 
> >> the virus to others.
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Chris Goulart
> >> 
> >> Aurora, Colorado
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: [cobirds] Interpretation of state-wide Public Health Order

[Gary Brower]

Allison,

I’m not advocating running around the state. I was just clarifying that the 
Denver “stay-at-home” order is different than the state’s.

And, of course, what does “region” mean? This is probably the “squishiest” 
concept in the whole thing!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 9:42 AM, Allison Hilf  wrote:
> 
> Gary-
> Nobody is saying you can't go hiking, snowshoeing, etc. in the region of the 
> state you live in, so long as you observe social distancing regulations. 
> However THINK about purpose of having people to stay in region.  It's to not 
> spread virus.   TRAVELING spreads virus, period.  The question has been asked 
> at news conferences and Gov. Polis was on news Friday explaining exercising 
> and participating in outdoor activities in your REGION is fine.
> 
> Jefferson County has one of the larger numbers of COVID19 cases in the state, 
> all who find it necessary to chase the Sagebrush Sparrow for your County 
> Lists there, I hope you stay in YOUR REGION  for at least 14 days afterwards 
> to protect the vulnerable with pre-existing health conditions.  If you 
> watched the bird from your car, this wouldn't be as important to me, but it 
> still violates State Regulations.  
> 
> Allison Hilf
> Aurora,CO
> 
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 5:45 AM Gary Brower  <mailto:grb4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Read all the way through the article.  It is aimed at DENVER residents.  
> Here’s the appropriate sentence (from the article, anyway)— the next-to-last 
> “paragraph”:
> 
> You might be thinking, “Well hold on a second, Gov. Jared Polis said hiking 
> was fine!” Unfortunately for Denver residents, the stricter restrictions are 
> what apply, so in this particular case, the city and county order trumps the 
> statewide order.
> 
> The State’s order (under “Definitions”) reads:
> 
> 3. Engaging in outdoor activity, such as, by way of example and without 
> limitation,
> walking, hiking, nordic skiing, snowshoeing, biking or running. For purposes 
> of
> outdoor activity, State parks will remain open to the public to engage in 
> walking,
> hiking, biking, running, and similar outdoor activities but all playgrounds, 
> picnic
> areas, other similar areas conducive to public gathering, and attended areas 
> shall
> be closed. Additionally, the permitted outdoor activities in this PHO do not
> include activities that would violate the Social Distancing Requirements
> 
> If there is another, more authoritative, ruling (than “TheKnow”), I’ll be 
> welcome to hear/read it.  In the meantime, I’ll stick with Polis’ order, not 
> Hancock’s. But, the state’s order replaces both Boulder County’s, as well as 
> the Ti-County Health Department’s orders.
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County (thankfully!)
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Thomas Heinrich > <mailto:teheinr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just happened to find this relevant article on the Denver Post website:
>> 
>> https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/03/26/hiking-mountains-denver-stay-at-home-order/236219/
>>  
>> <https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/03/26/hiking-mountains-denver-stay-at-home-order/236219/>
>> 
>> Thomas Heinrich
>> nyc...@aol.com <mailto:nyc...@aol.com>
>> Boulder, CO
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:55 PM Susan Rosine > <mailto:u5b2mt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I was not aware of that restriction. I thought you could travel anywhere to 
>> exercise, which includes birding. I thought that's why the state parks were 
>> still open. 
>> So people in the mountains can't go to the plains, and vice versa? Like how 
>> far away from your town can you go? I've seen nothing about that. 
>> I stay sooo far away from people all the time, and I have left the city 
>> limits.
>> Susan Rosine
>> Brighton
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Re: [cobirds] Interpretation of state-wide Public Health Order

[Gary Brower]

Read all the way through the article.  It is aimed at DENVER residents.  Here’s 
the appropriate sentence (from the article, anyway)— the next-to-last 
“paragraph”:

You might be thinking, “Well hold on a second, Gov. Jared Polis said hiking was 
fine!” Unfortunately for Denver residents, the stricter restrictions are what 
apply, so in this particular case, the city and county order trumps the 
statewide order.

The State’s order (under “Definitions”) reads:

3. Engaging in outdoor activity, such as, by way of example and without 
limitation,
walking, hiking, nordic skiing, snowshoeing, biking or running. For purposes of
outdoor activity, State parks will remain open to the public to engage in 
walking,
hiking, biking, running, and similar outdoor activities but all playgrounds, 
picnic
areas, other similar areas conducive to public gathering, and attended areas 
shall
be closed. Additionally, the permitted outdoor activities in this PHO do not
include activities that would violate the Social Distancing Requirements

If there is another, more authoritative, ruling (than “TheKnow”), I’ll be 
welcome to hear/read it.  In the meantime, I’ll stick with Polis’ order, not 
Hancock’s. But, the state’s order replaces both Boulder County’s, as well as 
the Ti-County Health Department’s orders.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County (thankfully!)



> On Mar 28, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Thomas Heinrich  wrote:
> 
> Just happened to find this relevant article on the Denver Post website:
> 
> https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/03/26/hiking-mountains-denver-stay-at-home-order/236219/
>  
> <https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/03/26/hiking-mountains-denver-stay-at-home-order/236219/>
> 
> Thomas Heinrich
> nyc...@aol.com <mailto:nyc...@aol.com>
> Boulder, CO
> 
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:55 PM Susan Rosine  <mailto:u5b2mt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I was not aware of that restriction. I thought you could travel anywhere to 
> exercise, which includes birding. I thought that's why the state parks were 
> still open. 
> So people in the mountains can't go to the plains, and vice versa? Like how 
> far away from your town can you go? I've seen nothing about that. 
> I stay sooo far away from people all the time, and I have left the city 
> limits.
> Susan Rosine
> Brighton
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Re: [cobirds] Osprey -Cherry Creek SP, Arapahoe County

[Gary Brower]

As someone who lives (almost) right next door to CCSP, I can say that there are 
ospreys around almost all the time. If there’s any seasonality to their 
presence, I’ve not noticed it.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Ken Wat  wrote:
> 
> I had a Osprey hunting at Cherry Creek SP, Arapahoe County this morning along 
> the Dam Trail.
> 
> Ken Wat
> Aurora
> 
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 2:44 AM 'Deborah Carstensen' via Colorado Birds 
> mailto:cobirds@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> I thought I saw an osprey on the osprey tower at South Platte park on 3/21. I 
> only had my binoculars and didn’t feel completely sure about it and thought 
> it might be a bit early for one to be there. 
> Deb Carstensen, Arapahoe county 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Chip Clouse > <mailto:chip.clo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Cobirders,
>> I haven't seen any reports yet this year so this may be the 1st day back for 
>> the Osprey at Lagerman. It was actively defending the platform from nearby 
>> Bald Eagles more intent on prairie dogs I presume.
>> There was also a flock of 21 Mountain Bluebirds on the west side and a 
>> single American Pipit working the rocks near the dam spillway.  It's a 
>> beautiful day to be socially distant!
>> 
>> Good birding,
>> Chip Clouse
>> Golden, CO
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[cobirds] Ani update

[Gary Brower]

Good afternoon,

The Ani was seen by about 1/2 dozen folks around 1:30 this afternoon. It was 
east of the pedestrian/trail bridge, about 1/4 mile upstream, on the north side 
of the stream. It was perched near the trunk of a tree, very unperturbed. It 
would drop down occasionally, and then back into the tree.  Vocalizing every so 
often.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Virginia Rail at CCSP?

[Gary Brower]

Good morning,

I’ve seen almost daily eBird reports of a VIRA at Cherry Creek State Park, but 
no particulars as to WHERE that bird (or those birds) are observed. The park is 
big, with numerous possible locations. Can someone who HAS observed it/them 
help narrow it down?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
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[cobirds] Steamboat?

[Gary Brower]

Good morning, CoBirders!

Dear spouse and I will be spending a couple fo days in Steamboat Springs in a 
couple of weeks. Just wondering where might be good places/walks for birding?

Thanks so much!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Re: Mexican Duck marina at Cherry Creek SP (Arapahoe county(

[Gary Brower]

All,

Several questions, then, for those who know about (or consider) these things . 
. . .

1)  Was Mexican Duck made a separate species in the last go-around? I can’t 
remember.  If so, then it’s Life Bird for me — I’ll head to CCSP tomorrow.
2)  If it’s a Mottled Duck, it’s a Life Bird for me — I’ll head to CCSP 
tomorrow.
3)  If it’s a Mottled x Mexican hybrid . . . . how does one “count” that?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County
(Next door to CCSP)

> On Jan 15, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Scott Somershoe  wrote:
> 
> All,
> Sorry for not posting sooner. Birding happened today. 
> 
> Anyway, this bird on first blush looks like a Mottled Duck to a bunch of us. 
> However the broad white line on the leading edge and trailing edge of the 
> speculum eliminates Mottled. It also doesn’t totally match Mexican duck (not 
> that I’ve seen one to my knowledge).  I managed to study the bird for a while 
> this morning and Ben’s photos are great! Way better than mine. I did see a 
> couple random green feathers at the base of the tail as well. Weird. 
> 
> According to waterfowl guru Steve Mlodinow, he thinks it may be a mottled x 
> Mexican hybrid. I’ll leave a final decision to those smarter than me! Really 
> interesting bird regardless. As I say, there’s always more to learn.
> 
> Scott Somershoe 
> Littleton CO
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 15, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Ben S  <mailto:benr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all -
>> Went back around 3 this afternoon. The bird was closer in and more 
>> cooperative today. Got lots of photos from just about every angle. Hopefully 
>> this will help with the final ID.
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have some more photos in my ebird checklist: 
>> https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S51717453 
>> <https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S51717453>
>> 
>> Ben Sampson, 
>> 
>> Centennial, CO 
>> 
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Re: [cobirds] Pink Footed Goose Still Around?

[Gary Brower]

Peggy, 

It continues to appear on the eBird alerts, so I would say “yes” — even if 
those folks aren’t part of COBirds.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Dec 30, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Peggy Gonder  wrote:
> 
> I was unable to chase the PFGO over the Christmas week.
> 
> Has anybody seen it since Dec. 26?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> Peggy Gonder, APR
> Adams County
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Re: [cobirds] face book and cobirds - a solution?

[Gary Brower]

Totally agree!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Dec 13, 2018, at 9:42 AM, linda hodges  wrote:
> 
> Might it be time to wrap up this 
> discussion?
> 
> Linda Hodges
> Colorado Springs
> 
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 9:27 AM Dave Cameron  <mailto:davedn...@msn.com> wrote:
> Here is, perhaps, a more callous approach to all the discussion going on 
> about where to post info on rarities:
> 
> I'll preface my remarks by saying that COBIRDS google group is my personal 
> preference for posting info and finding info.  There is, of course, also the 
> COBIRDS facebook page.  I'm also on the Colorado Rare Bird Alert facebook 
> page.  I also periodically read and post on birdforum dot net (subgroup 
> forums, subgroup your local patch, subgroup Colorado).  And of course, I get 
> a lot of info about where to find birds on ebird.  
> 
> No one is required to update all, or any, of those databases.  We could see a 
> rarity and just mail a letter to the CBRC the following month, but we all 
> benefit from fast info, and people are really good about getting info out 
> incredibly quickly.  This info quickly spreads from one site to another.
> 
> So, what's my advice?  If you really expect that every report will reach you 
> personally, and instantly?  JOIN THEM ALL.  THEY'RE ALL FREE.  Bringing 
> others' preference of internet medium in line with one's own, in any context, 
> is pointless.
> 
> Dave Cameron
> Denver
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 7:14:55 PM UTC-7, Greg Pasquariello wrote:
> I think they’re two different audiences, and what gets posted to one may or 
> may not be of interest to the other; this conversation, for example.   I 
> think this mailing list has more birders, whereas the FB group probably has 
> many “casual” lookey-loos on it too.
> 
> 
> Regards
> -Greg Pasquariello
> Littleton CO
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Rolf Hertenstein, Lyons > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I was wondering if it is possible for a savvy tech person (I am NOT one) to 
>> have facebook posts automatically forwarded to cobirds, with or without 
>> photos.
>> 
>> That would help those of us who do not facebook to avoid missing information.
>> 
>>  Rolf (Hertenstein, Lyons, CO)
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Re: [cobirds] retire from RBA

[Gary Brower]

I’ve SO benefitted from the work of those, especially Joyce, who’ve 
maintained/updated the RBA. My Colorado and life lists have grown! Thanks so 
much!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Nov 4, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Janeal Thompson  wrote:
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> Thank you for your years of service to COBIRDS and the rare bird alert, 
> you've done a great job, we'll miss your reports.  
> 
> Janeal Thompson
> Lamar, CO
> 
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 8:27 AM Joyce Takamine  <mailto:jabir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> CoBirders,
> 
> I want to let you know that I intend to retire from compiling the RBA on 1 
> Jan 2019.
> I have been compiling the RBA for 14 years and think that it is time for some 
> new blood
> or possibly some new means of broadcasting the information.  
> 
> A lot has changed since I first started.  For one we no longer have the phone 
> line which 
> is sort of how it started.  News come from many sources now:  CoBirds, WSBN, 
> e-Bird,
> and Facebook.  When we have a “hot” bird or birds it takes a LOT of time to 
> compile the
> reports.
> 
> Good Birding,
> Joyce Takamine 
> Boulder
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[cobirds] Craning for Cranes

[Gary Brower]

CoBirders,

With all of the recent posts regarding Sandhills, I was wondering if there were 
a “reliable” place in Arapahoe/Douglas counties where one might find the 
cranes?  Most of the posts I’ve seen have been “incidental” — i.e., 
seeing/hearing them overhead.  I’m just curious as to whether there’s a place 
they like to "set down” before Monte Vista?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County
(i.e., the slums of Greenwood Village)

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Re: [cobirds] Veery singing at Twin Lakes

[Gary Brower]

Thanks, Bill.

> On May 29, 2018, at 6:58 PM, William H Kaempfer 
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> Gary,
> 
> Twin Lakes is in Boulder County between Boulder and Longmont, just south of 
> CO 119 off 63rd St.
> 
> Bill Kaempfer
> Boulder
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cobirds@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gary 
> Brower
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:56 PM
> To: el...@indra.com
> Cc: cobirds@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Veery singing at Twin Lakes
> 
> More information, please.  What county?
> 
>> On May 29, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Mail.indra.com  wrote:
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>> I am listening to (and trying to record on my phone) a singing veery along 
>> the Twin Lakes trail. It sounds like it is in a yard to the south of the 
>> ditch where there is a big log across the ditch, east of the GHoW nest. If 
>> the recordings come out I will post them on an eBird list. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Elena Holly Klaver
>> Federally Certified Court Interpreter
>> Conference Interpreter 
>> 303.475.5189
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Re: [cobirds] Veery singing at Twin Lakes

[Gary Brower]

More information, please.  What county?

> On May 29, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Mail.indra.com  wrote:
> 
> I am listening to (and trying to record on my phone) a singing veery along 
> the Twin Lakes trail. It sounds like it is in a yard to the south of the 
> ditch where there is a big log across the ditch, east of the GHoW nest. If 
> the recordings come out I will post them on an eBird list. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[cobirds] First Creek

[Gary Brower]

Friends,

Where does one park to gain access to the First Creek area of Rocky Mountain 
Arsenal?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Chico Basin Ranch?

[Gary Brower]

El Paso County Birders,

There are a lot of birds at this site that I’d love to see, given eBird.

What’s the best way to approach the place? Time of day? Etc.

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Golden-Crowned Warbler Update

[Gary Brower]

Glenn,

You are WONDERFUL to keep us up-to-date!  THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On May 17, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Glenn Walbek <gwal...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> The Golden-crowned Warbler was seen and photographed by many through at least 
> 2 p.m.  I will update the status of this bird tomorrow morning.
> 
> 
> 
> Glenn Walbek
> 
> Castle Rock, CO
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[cobirds] Sagebrush Sparrow-CCSP?

[Gary Brower]

Good morning,

To those who’ve seen the Sagebrush Sparrow, which side of the parking lot
does it favor? I’ve looked a couple of times with no luck, and narrowing
down the options might help.

Thanks,

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Re: Good news about birding access at Coors Ponds!

[Gary Brower]

Ditto to what Chuck said!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe  County

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Charles Hundertmark <chundertma...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Great piece of work on behalf of the birding community and Coors. Thanks, Joe.
> 
> Chuck
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Joe Roller <jroll...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jroll...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Fellow birders,
>> Last week I contacted Mitzy Spader, Lead Supervisor for Security at the 
>> Coors Brewery in Golden,
>> describing how birders have enjoyed the great variety of waterfowl at Coors 
>> Ponds (east of McIntyre St, south of Clear Creek) over many years.
>> I asked her for corporate permission for us to study birds on the ponds 
>> through the fence, with explicit permission to take photographs.
>> 
>> She discussed our request with Coors higher-ups, who granted us open access 
>> -Green Light.
>> 
>> Birders can park on the shoulder, walk to the fence and study and photograph 
>> birds. 
>> I assured her that birders will appreciate these opportunities and be 
>> respectful, as we have been.
>> Coors is interested in good public relations and that was the basis for this 
>> agreement.
>> 
>> Ms. Spader assured me that the security personnel have been briefed on the 
>> new policy and will no longer stop to chat with birders.
>> 
>> This is good news and a change for the better for all of us. 
>> 
>> IF for some reason a security guard approaches you, please mention that 
>> access was
>> granted by "Mitzy Spader in Coors Security" as of January 18.
>> 
>> Please document your sightings to the eBird hotspot there,* and send a brief 
>> note to CObirds
>> about uncommon species.
>> 
>> Joe Roller, Denver
>> 
>> 
>> * Coors Ponds 
>> Jefferson, US-CO
>> 
>> 75 SPECIES
>> 160 checklists
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [cobirds] No RBSA, but YBLO

[Gary Brower]

Of course . .  .

We left about 2:30.

Sigh.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Jan 15, 2018, at 4:26 PM, John D <jxdru...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> Sapsucker was at it's usual tree at 3pm precisely .
> 
> John Drummond
> Colorado Springs
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> Subject: [cobirds] No RBSA, but YBLO
> 
> Tries to find the Sapsucker in our way north; no luck. Some other birders 
> came by while I was there and said they thought they’d gotten looks this 
> morning, but nothing definite.
> 
> So we just headed back north via the Sith Platte Ravr. As of a few minutes 
> ago both the Loon and the Scoter were in the Jefferson Cty portion of the 
> lake.
> 
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> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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[cobirds] Pueblo Snowy, but no owl

[Gary Brower]

Checked both areas where the Snowy Owl has been reported, but to no avail.
Weather is pretty poor.

No other birders in sight either!

Try for the sapsucker on our way back to Denver.

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Birding the Front Range tomorrow

[Gary Brower]

Good evening, all,

With tomorrow being a holiday, my guess is that there will be numerous birders 
our looking for some of our current Front Range “finds”.  I know my wife and I 
will be doing so.

The weather forecast, however, for tomorrow isn’t as “pleasant” as today (snow 
showers starting in both Colorado Springs and Pueblo in the morning).

Can I ask/suggest that those of us who are out looking for these great birds 
keep a close look at COBirds (and post updates). It’s going to be a somewhat 
tricky travel day, and the more information we have at the better (and safer).

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Standley Snowy

[Gary Brower]

Good morning, birders,

Did anyone try for the snowy yesterday?  Or was everyone out on a CBC?

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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Re: [cobirds] Re: Two good warblers at One Belmar Place apartments in Lakewood

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Lucky you!

A bunch of us were there around 2:30, and only saw the Yellow-throated (along 
with a Yellow-rumped, a Chickadee, a House Finch and a Flicker).  The PRWA may 
have shown up after I left at 2:45.

i’ll be back in the morning!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

> On Dec 18, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Thomas Holub <imtm...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Both rare warblers seen moving around pines in the previously specified 
> apartment location. Didn’t take long to find both in the same area. Last seen 
> as of 4:25 pm or so. 
> Thomas Holub
> Littleton Co
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[cobirds] SNOW?

[Gary Brower]

All,

I forgot to ask, has anyone seen the Snowy Owl in the last few days? The last 
reported sighting (on the RBA) is 11/25. But has anyone gone looking and come 
up short?

Thanks again,

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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[cobirds] Two questions

[Gary Brower]

Good evening, bird-folk,

I’m looking towards a “less-work-busy” December, and am trying to decide on 
CBCs.  I’m also trying to nail down some “usual” suspects (i.e., birds I 
haven’t seen but aren’t THAT unusual in Colorado).

So, I’m hoping y’all can help.

I’ve searched the CBC sites, but can’t seem to find the individual count circle 
reports. All I find is the summaries, which, while interesting, record unusual 
species. I’d like some site that showed ALL the species for individual count 
circles.  Does such a thing exist?

Aside from that, is there a “dependable” place to find Evening Grosbeak?  I 
grew seeing them in Oregon, but haven’t seen one since I started keeping track 
(in 1984).

Thanks!

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County

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