Re: Cocoon problems generating html output
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:37:47AM +0200, Joerg Heinicke wrote:
Hello Rob,
to make it short:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15316
Are absolute paths an option for you?
Btw, the 'realpath' input module is useful here, for passing in the
absolute context path into the xsl:fo stylesheet:
map:transform src=stylesheets/document2fo.xsl
map:parameter name=ctxbasedir value={realpath:.}//
/map:transform
Then you can concat($ctxbasedir, 'resources/images/', @src) to
generate a FOP-friendly image path. There's an example of this in
Forrest.
--Jeff
Joerg
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Hi all,
I'm a bit of a Cocoon newbie so forgive me if there are any errors in the
following...
In an attempt to push the use of DocBook for technical documentation within
our group I have been trialling its use and using Cocoon 2.0.4 as the
publishing framework. I have deployed this under tomcat-4.1.24 on Solaris 8
with j2sdk1.4.1_01. We are also using docbook-xsl-1.58.1 for the
stylesheets.
We are mainly generating this into html and pdf for review and
distribution. Now I have replaced Xalan with Saxon the html seems be
working a lot better, faster and more reliable. One problem I am having is
with graphics in PDF files, if I include an imageobject element in the
docbook all works fine for html but with pdf the image fails to be
included. The following error occurs in both the error.log and the
sitemap.log
ERROR (2003-06-04) 08:51.35:216 [sitemap.serializer.fo2pdf.fop]
(/cocoon/mount/users/r_exley/doc/r_exley/rpe006.pdf)
Thread-8/ExternalGraphic: Error while creating area : Error with image URL:
images/rpe006_1.png (No such file or directory) and no base directory is
specified
A fragment from the docbook source used in this is as follows:
mediaobject
imageobject
imagedata fileref=images/rpe006_1.png format=PNG/
/imageobject
/mediaobject
After searching through google etc. this seems to be because the somewhere
between Apache FOP and docbook-xsl a baseDir configuration parameter is
required when operating in a servlet environment. The following is one of
the references I found to this.
http://forrestbot.cocoondev.org/sites/xml-fop/embedding.html#config-internal
How do I approach getting this into my cocoon implementation ?
Has anyone had any experience of this ?
Is it docbook-xsl, FOP or Cocoon that is deficient in the treatment of
images and PDFs via this mechanism ?
Am I missing something or doing this incorrectly ?
FYI - I am pretty sure using this approach plus FOP all works from the
command line.
I would appreciate any help/advice on this. Equally if I should be
addressing this elsewhere then thats fine as well.
thanks in advance
---
Rob Exley
Senior Technical Consultant
Equifax Plc
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Re: warning message in core.log
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:48:36AM +0300, Stavros Kounis wrote: i have to look for default as attribute in map:components element or in child elements of map:component? Most children of map:components ought to have a 'default' attribute. the only child element without 'default' attribute in map:components is map:actions That's fine. can this warning message cause malfunctions? The 'default' attribute is treated as the 'hint' in the sitemap's component manager. However there is usually a default component defined for each role, so a lack of hint doesn't cause an error. I'm sure there's lots of other things that could cause this error that I don't know of. Perhaps check your cocoon.xconf for oddities. --Jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: warning message in core.log
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:31:32AM +0300, Stavros Kounis wrote: hi i get this warning message in my core.log in every hit is something i have to worry about? message: WARN(2003-04-03) 02:21.59:452 [core.manager] (/xml/forestland.gr/themes/images/progs/11/thumbnails/3.jpg) Thread-62/ExcaliburComponentSelector: Looking up component on an uninitialized ComponentLocator with hint Do you have any entries in map:components that lack a 'default' attribute, or have it set to ? --Jeff [/home/vhost/forestland.gr/conf/sitemap.xmap] stavros - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DSML Cocoon
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 03:19:53PM +0400, Yury Mikhienko wrote: Hi all! Does anyone know how to implement a DSML(Directory Service Markup Language) into cocoon? There was once an LDAP taglib for Cocoon 1 that returned DSML: http://opensource.socialchange.net.au/ldaptaglib/ Probably wouldn't be hard to port to Cocoon 2. --Jeff -- Best regards, Yury Mikhienko. IT engineer, ZAO Mobicom-Kavkaz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ExcaliburComponentSelector: Attempted to release a null component WARNiNG?
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 06:03:16AM -0500, Tsui, Alban wrote: I have the following warnings in my core.log from cocoon and what do they mean? ... Which version of Cocoon? --Jeff (who is getting herds of these with CVS 2.1) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XPathDirectoryGenerator - need help
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 11:27:27AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I do not understand the XPathDirectoryGenerator: Also tried: KNO\#/azkno:knowledgeobject/dc:title/text() Same, tag content is not displayed !? Probably because XPathDirectoryGenerator doesn't provide a way to register namespace-prefix mappings. Instead, try: ...#/*[local-name()='knowledgeobject']/*[local-name()='title']/text() --Jeff Any help is appreciated !! Holger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: action in a pipeline
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 05:13:46PM +0100, Lionel Crine wrote:
I wrote that this match:
map:match pattern=save/*
map:act type=Save
map:parameter name=save value={1}/
/map:act
/map:match
Can't see anything wrong with that. I assume you have a map:action
definition for 'Save' somewhere in the sitemap too. Check the logs for
errors..
--Jeff
Cocoon didn't find the resource. Is it illegal to write that ?
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Re: Dynamically generate RSS feed for Cocoon portal from XML files
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 05:11:30AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I would like to dynamically generate an RSS feed from currently available XML files in a folder on my webserver to be displayed in the Cocoon portal. I have a set of equally structured XML files in a folder and new files are added to this folder regularly. Now I want to generate the RSS feed dynamically when the respective coplet displays the RSS in the portal. The RSS file should reflect the title of these XML files (which is in the dc:title tag of each file) and the URI (the path + filename). Any ideas are greatly appreciated, hope someone has done similar things before - otherwise I would need to start from scratch. If you're using Cocoon 2.1, the XPathDirectoryGenerator might be useful. It lets you extract XPath-specified nodes from every file in a directory. For example, to generate http://aft.sourceforge.net/examples/index.html I used: map:match pattern=examples/index.xml map:generate type=xpathdirectory src=content/xdocs/examples#/project/description/text()/ map:transform src=resources/stylesheets/antdirectory2document.xsl/ map:serialize type=xml/ /map:match --Jeff Kind regards, Holger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Way to make XML generator ignore DTD declaration?
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 07:25:00PM -0500, Colin W. Kingsbury wrote: Hi all, I have an XML document which includes a dtd declaration like so: !DOCTYPE foo PUBLIC -//foo//foo document//EN foo.dtd [ !ENTITY bar bar ]foo/foo Everything works fine -if- I delete the DTD declaration. But only if... I don't care about validity but problem is the source file is generetd by a dump from a CMS which insists on having the declaration like so. I tried putting the DTD in the same dir as the content XML, etc etc but no luck. Is there any setting which can force the parser to ignore DTDs or another place I should be putting the DTD file? I'd rather not write a nasty little parser just to strip out the doctype declaration... Heh.. well if it helps, here's a 'nasty little parser' already written, to do just this job: http://doctypechanger.sf.net/ The javadocs explain why (I think) this sort of hack is the only real solution. If you prefer, Xerces XNI pull parsing can do the same thing. It would be pretty easy to work this into a DOCTYPEMungingFileSource in Excalibur. --Jeff Thanks in advance, -cwk. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AbstractTransformer or AbstractSAXTransformer?
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 04:27:41AM -0800, gv wrote: I am writing a custom transformer that has to read all the XML into a data structure, manipulate the structure, then finally write everything in the structure back out. DOMTransformer gives you a nice DOM to play with. --Jeff From where would I call my manipulation code? Looks like I need to use AbstractSAXTransformer, but can this be done with AbstractTransformer? Thanks, John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [NOTICE] *** CVS REPOSITORY SPLITUP ***
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:04:26AM +, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Folks, being now Sunday in London (and God knows if I'm going to wake up tomorrow), I actually split the CVS as agreed. ... Wiki page created to help people move existing 'xml-cocoon2' checkouts across: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CVSMigration --Jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Semantic linking (Re: Cinclude issues...)
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 09:09:21AM -0500, Ben Young wrote: Hey Jeff, I've got cocoon-2.1 CVS up and running. I'm getting ready to play with some of the LinkRewriter stuff. I think the semantic linking will be a huge help in certain areas of our site. I'm glad I can continue to use the old relative linking too. Actually, indirect linking is a better name than semantic. Effectively, you're linking to an XPath node in an intermediate doc, rather than a specific location. I'm still trying to figure out the cleanest way to implement all these features into the site map. We're at a place in our site development where what we do now will affect our predicessors positively or negatively for a good time to come. I suppose KISS is the best approach then. For a first iteration, it might be best to forget about site: linking and concentrate on the menus. It can be added later very easily, and be made to accommodate whatever XML format you choose. Here is a diff of the sitemap changes made in Forrest, to use site.xml for both 'site:' linking and menu (book.xml) generation: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-forrest/src/resources/conf/sitemap.xmap.diff?r1=1.45r2=1.45.2.1diff_format=h Since I can't bank that those who come after will be visionaries I have to try and get things in place that make since and work well by themselves. The less of a learning curve there is the better. I'm sure you understand. 8o) Oo.. one thing to consider when managing big URI spaces: what happens when they change? Do the old URLs just break when a page reshuffle is required? I have a vague plan on how to solve this (mark obsolete pages and generate redirects) in Forrest. I love the concepts of the semantic web and I want to get as close to it as possible. Currently, though, I'm surrounded with a trillion options and trying to dig through to what exactly it is that I need to do next in order to get there. asideIt seems to be a long sentence day. 8o)/aside :) Well sounds like many of the issues are similar to Forrest's. Feel free to mail me offlist about specific stuff. --Jeff Thanks for listening to my rant. 8o) I'll probably post some RT's in the future about some of what I've been thinking. I don't know that there was a call to action in any of that, but any thoughts you (or anyone else) may have would be *greatly* appreciated. Thanks, Ben ... - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Semantic linking (Re: Cinclude issues...)
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 03:22:53PM -0500, Ben Young wrote:
Ok, Jeff. I've been pondering this site.xml thing all day.
Btw, the LinkRewriterTransformer is currently only in 2.1. Although as
the InputModules it depends on are also in 2.0.4, it could be ported
fairly easily.
asideBTW, thanks for the upgrade suggestion. 8o)/aside I have a
couple questions about semantic linking that maybe you can field.
I don't want to give up the old linking method just yet, but I would
like to use semantic linking for certain scenarios. Is this posible
with the linkmap implementation?
Yes, it's not an either/or choice. If a link happens to start with
'site:' (or somesuch prefix) it will be translated. Pretty much any XML
format can be used, by changing the XPath prefix and suffix.
In order to manage the 7,000+ pages I would definitely need the
XInclude ability. Would that be very hard to add?
Just a matter of adding map:tansform type=xinclude/ to the pipeline.
Though, the XInclude transformer isn't very good. XPointer support is
dodgy ('/site/samples' doesn't work, but '/site/samples/*' does), and
there is no support for the xmlns() scheme, meaning if your XML uses
namespaces like Forrest's site.xml, you have to use
*[local-name()='foo']. You might be better off using XML entities;.
How hard is it to set up one's own link schemas?
Requires defining a few input modules in cocoon.xconf and the sitemap.
See CVS Cocoon's linkrewriter block
(http://localhost:8080/cocoon/samples/linkrewriter/). Actually, wait for
me to commit a fix for the bookdemo sample..
--Jeff
Thanks for all your help, Jeff. This look a lot more promising and full
featured then the way I was headed.
...
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Re: Cinclude issues...
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 02:09:17PM -0500, Ben Young wrote:
Sorry Jeff, I guess I never gave an example of the what the proposed pipeline should
look like.
map:match pattern=**/index.htm*
map:act type=sourcetype src=/home/htdocs/content/{1}/index.xml
map:generate src=cocoon:/{../1}/index.{sourcetype}/
/map:act
map:transform src=/home/htdocs/design/shell.xsl
map:parameter name=path value={1}/
/map:transform
map:transform type=cinclude/
map:serialize/
/map:match
And doesn't it work? What is the output just before the cinclude?
(sorry, I still haven't twigged.. what does shell.xsl do?)
I've looked into the Forrest site.xml work and I like it for the most
part, but the thought of managing a single navigational map for an
entire 7,000+ page site seems a bit unruly.
Ouch.. yes it would. With a sitemap tweak, site.xml could xinclude
site.xml's from subdirectories though.
I'm trying to break it up into managable, human tolerant pieces. 8o)
That, sarcasmoddly enough/sarcasm, is proving to be a daunting
task. 8o)
Oh well, *humans*, there's your problem :o) Upgrade to a species more
tolerant of complexity, and everything will be fine.
--Jeff
Thoughts,
Ben
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On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:00:19PM -0500, Ben Young wrote:
I've recently attempted to use the cinclude to aggregate some files that I'm
currently aggregating with the map:aggregate command, but I've run into some
issues that I'm not sure how to resolve.
My current map:match section looks like this:
map:match pattern=**/index.htm*
map:act type=sourcetype src=/home/htdocs/content/{1}/index.xml
map:aggregate element=document
map:part src=cocoon:/{../1}/../_navigation.xml
element=navigation/
map:part src=cocoon:/{../1}/index.{sourcetype}/
/map:aggregate
/map:act
map:transform src=/home/htdocs/design/shell.xsl
map:parameter name=nav_filename
value=/home/htdocs/content/nav_home.xml/
map:parameter name=path value={1}/
/map:transform
map:serialize/
/map:match
I use an internal-only pipeline to find the nearest _navigation.xml file
in existence.
map:pipeline internal-only=true
map:match pattern=**/_navigation.xml
map:act type=resource-exists
map:parameter name=url
value=/home/htdocs/content/{1}/_navigation.xml/
map:generate src=/home/htdocs/content/{../1}/_navigation.xml/
map:serialize type=xml/
/map:act
map:redirect-to uri=cocoon:/{1}/../_navigation.xml/
/map:match
/map:pipeline
I'd like to move the aggregation step after the shell.xsl is applied. The
plan is to have the shell.xsl output a cinclude tag that uses the
cocoon:// psuedo-protocol in the appropriate place using the $path
parameter plus _navigation.xml
My current trouble is that the cinclude only runs through the internal
pipeline once.
Perhaps my brain slipped out of gear, but that seems a bit cryptic..
Don't you need a map:transform type=cinclude/ tag somewhere to get
cinclude processing?
--Jeff
PS: in case you didn't know: Forrest does this kind of nav + body
integration to generate pages like http://xml.apache.org/forrest/
Thank you for any help you might be able to give,
Ben
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Re: Cinclude issues...
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:00:19PM -0500, Ben Young wrote:
I've recently attempted to use the cinclude to aggregate some files that I'm
currently aggregating with the map:aggregate command, but I've run into some
issues that I'm not sure how to resolve.
My current map:match section looks like this:
map:match pattern=**/index.htm*
map:act type=sourcetype src=/home/htdocs/content/{1}/index.xml
map:aggregate element=document
map:part src=cocoon:/{../1}/../_navigation.xml
element=navigation/
map:part src=cocoon:/{../1}/index.{sourcetype}/
/map:aggregate
/map:act
map:transform src=/home/htdocs/design/shell.xsl
map:parameter name=nav_filename
value=/home/htdocs/content/nav_home.xml/
map:parameter name=path value={1}/
/map:transform
map:serialize/
/map:match
I use an internal-only pipeline to find the nearest _navigation.xml file
in existence.
map:pipeline internal-only=true
map:match pattern=**/_navigation.xml
map:act type=resource-exists
map:parameter name=url
value=/home/htdocs/content/{1}/_navigation.xml/
map:generate src=/home/htdocs/content/{../1}/_navigation.xml/
map:serialize type=xml/
/map:act
map:redirect-to uri=cocoon:/{1}/../_navigation.xml/
/map:match
/map:pipeline
I'd like to move the aggregation step after the shell.xsl is applied. The
plan is to have the shell.xsl output a cinclude tag that uses the
cocoon:// psuedo-protocol in the appropriate place using the $path
parameter plus _navigation.xml
My current trouble is that the cinclude only runs through the internal
pipeline once.
Perhaps my brain slipped out of gear, but that seems a bit cryptic..
Don't you need a map:transform type=cinclude/ tag somewhere to get
cinclude processing?
--Jeff
PS: in case you didn't know: Forrest does this kind of nav + body
integration to generate pages like http://xml.apache.org/forrest/
Thank you for any help you might be able to give,
Ben
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Re: Using Cocoon and ($tool) to generate static pages.
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 06:07:02PM +0100, Andrea Censi wrote: Which is the best tool to create an offline copy of a cocoon live site? It should spider through the pages, follow every link and gather both html and images/css/pdf. Then it should rearrange internal links from absolute to relative (http://site/page; - page.html, / - index.html). The result is to be loaded on a low-spec [ = no cocoon :( ] webserver. I don't consider the batch use from command line to be a viable alternative, because: - There are different views of single xml files. Don't the different views have different URLs? If so, and if you link to those different URLs, then they will each have a file written. - I don't want to explicitly change the internal URL format used by the site (/ ... /page/ with a final slash) I think the crawler will convert links to a directory, eg 'foo/' to 'foo/index.html'. - (not sure) Would it work with dynamic SVG-gif? Yes. I'd say, give it a try. Works fine rendering Forrest sites. Alternatively, you could try spidering tools like 'wget'. --Jeff - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon 2.1 the usability release?
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:28:30AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote: One other feature would be more extensive documentation in the API. To see what I mean, look at the class level documentation on LinkSerializer. Hrmm ... I still don't know what it does. Perhaps its time to bust people's chops to document things. I'm glad to see you consider good documentation a priority. I have commit access to the relevant repositories, and I am willing to document anything you like for a very reasonable $A10/class. Please contact me offlist for further information. Of course... I ASSUME you'd be willing to pay someone, because how else could you get volunteers to scratch YOUR particular itch? :) --Jeff What I meant about the component documentation, by the way, is basically what is listed if you look at the package page in the API for the various components. -- Robert ... - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: Single JAR with all the libs?
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:17:07PM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote: Does anyone know how, in Ant, to take a fileset and convert it to a space delimited list of files? Something like: pathconvert property=list dirsep= path refid=... /pathconvert --Jeff -- Robert - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using docbook chunk.xsl with cocoon
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 10:03:10AM +0800, Perry Molendijk wrote:
I can post details if that's the problem you're trying to solve.
Jeff that would be great if you could post this.
(sorry for the delay)
I used something close to this:
map:transformers
...
map:transformer name=xpath
logger=sitemap.transformer.xpath
src=org.apache.cocoon.transformation.XPathTransformer
/
/map:transformers
...
map:match pattern=manual/*.xml
map:generate src=content/xdocs/manual.xml/
map:transform src=resources/stylesheets/docbook2document.xsl/
map:transform type=xpath
map:parameter name=include value=document/header |
document/body/section[title='{1}']/
/map:transform
map:transform src=resources/stylesheets/localizeheader.xsl/
map:serialize type=xml/
/map:match
Where 'localizeheader.xsl' fixes the title:
xsl:template match=header/title
titlexsl:value-of select=/document/body/section/title//title
/xsl:template
Actual sitemap + transformer available with:
export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/aft
cvs login
cvs co Anteater/src/documentation
--Jeff
Thanks
Perry Molendijk
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Re: Cocoon versus taglibs
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 01:26:09PM +0100, Jordi Valldaura wrote: Hello, Im developing a litle intranet (plug.. http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ :) , I want to use XML and i18n so I need XSLT transformation and internacionalization support. I was planning to use cocoon, but Jeff Turner said there were other ways to do this for example tablibs. My question is: are the tablibs (XTags i18n) faster than cocoon with a simple sitemap transforming XSPs to HTML I think you'll have to test it for yourself. Being straight SAX, Cocoon should be faster, but real life often throws surprises, and theorising on performance issues is pointless. One thing to note though: if your XML rarely changes, Cocoon's caching should help significantly. There are caching taglibs around if you choose the JSP route, but they won't be nearly as sophisticated as Cocoon. --Jeff The intranet will have an average of 200 concurrent users. Thanks in advance - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 06:22:10PM +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Saturday 25 January 2003 14:17, Robert Simmons wrote: That is the impression that I am getting and I'm curious as to feedback from list users. I bet you will ;o) So how could cocoon be of use to me and others like me? If I could build a war with simply any special classes I have (generators, etc) my XSL pages and a sitemap. Then I deploy that war and cocoon figures out how to wire things together. In general I agree that Cocoon is too feature-oriented and not at all user-oriented. If you know the product as the back of your hand, yes, you think everything is dirt easy, but it is overwhelming to get started. (The good news is that it is 10x better now than in the old days, when you needed ~10 additional downloads and installations.) In fact, I think Cocoon is so powerful, that it has kind of grown out of its servlet image. It should traverse to the next level (or two), and has its own deployment system. Collect your stuff (sitemap and all) into a JAR and hand it over. It is almost like that already, and should be a fairly easy addition to make, but the developer community is much more focused on additional features. http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=BlocksDefinition http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=101603335007960w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=101732982704553w=2 --Jeff Well, well... Niclas - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to configure cocoon to spot sitemap changes without restarting
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 02:07:16PM +, Simon Price wrote: I've not used cocoon for 3-4 months but I've just downloaded and got the new 2.1 head running. There's some nice improvements - well done. Last time I used cocoon I had to make some changes in cocoon.xconf so that any edits to the sitemap were detected without a restart. However, the notes I made at the time no longer match what's now in xconf. I think that applies to the old compiled sitemap. The interpreted sitemap in 2.1 reloads automatically (and quickly) when it is modified, without conf tweaks. Btw, if you're using CVS head, watch out for this bug: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16248 and also for Attempted to retrieve component with null hint errors.. the sitemap sytax changed (eg. map:pipelines - map:pipes) since 2.0.x. Is there an up-to-date guide somewhere on how to configure cocoon for development? There's a Wiki with lots of good stuff.. http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp --Jeff What are the best settings for caches, reloads etc. for easing development? Thanks in advance Simon - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:13AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote: I currently have the cocoon war installed on my JBoss 3.0.4 server. It works fine. I deployed a second war file that contains an XML and an XSL. The XML has an embedded xsl:stylesheet processing instruction. Embedded stylesheets are very unusual.. are you sure it's Cocoon applying the embedded stylesheet, or the web browser? When I go to the URL inside the war and hit the XML page, the translation is made fine. Ok so here is the question. I am now thinking of doing something a bit more than static XML pages. What would be the bare minimum? Do I have to copy the cocoon war and all the libs in it to another deployment or can I use the jars already deployed in the war? Each war has one main sitemap. Each sitemap can have lots of different pipelines. Where did the 'second war file' you mention come from? Did you copy the sitemap and WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf from the Cocoon samples war? Do sitemaps work outside of the cocoon war? No. Wars are completely self-contained things. How can I set up a simple application, prior to considering generators, outside of the cocoon deployment? What do you mean, 'outside' a deployment? Note. The lack of truly newbie cocoon documentation is appalling. Fortunately we have a Wiki where anyone can document things. This page looks quite relevant to your question: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SimpleTransformations --Jeff -- Robert - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using docbook chunk.xsl with cocoon
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 04:45:43PM +1000, Jerome Paul wrote: Hi, I'm trying to convert xml documents using docbook-xsl-1.58.1\html\chunk.xsl with tomcat 4.0 and cocoon 2.0.4 windows 2000. Anyway the conversion takes a while (it's converting a decent sized xml document) when the conversion stops Internet explorer displays nothing when using the standard html\docbook.xsl it work fine. I'm pretty sure that the error is with the chunk.xsl because it's been hardcoded to write to the hdd and the way it actually creates many web pages instead of a single page. Has anyone else had this problem? what's the solution that other people have used? Er.. what does chunk.xsl do? The one on my hdd doesn't seem to write to disk.. Would I be correct in guessing that chunk.xsl breaks a large Docbook file into chapters or something? If so, you could use the XPathTransformer in Cocoon bugzilla to achieve the same thing. that's how I generated the chapter views of a single XML file user manual at: http://aft.sourceforge.net/manual/ I can post details if that's the problem you're trying to solve. --Jeff any help would be greatly appreciated Jerome - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The simplest possible cocoon application?
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 06:26:42AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote: - Original Message - From: Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cocoon Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:02 AM Subject: Re: The simplest possible cocoon application? On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:13AM +0100, Robert Simmons wrote: I currently have the cocoon war installed on my JBoss 3.0.4 server. It works fine. I deployed a second war file that contains an XML and an XSL. The XML has an embedded xsl:stylesheet processing instruction. Embedded stylesheets are very unusual.. are you sure it's Cocoon applying the embedded stylesheet, or the web browser? Hmm, how could I tell? 'view source' in your browser. If you see XML, then it's the browser rendering. If you see HTML, Cocoon is rendering. What would you use if you didnt embedd the stylesheet into the XML? Oh, I get it, the pipeline tells it what transform to make ? Yes. In the sitemap you'd have a pipeline like: map:match pattern=foo.html map:generate src=foo.xml/ map:transform src=foo2html.xsl/ map:serialize type=html/ /map:match Addendum: I undeployed cocoon from jboss and the transform still worked. Must be the browser doing it. OOK .. =) :) What was the URL you were using? Did it start with 'http:' or 'file:'? Now I feel like i actually know LESS than before. When I go to the URL inside the war and hit the XML page, the translation is made fine. Ok so here is the question. I am now thinking of doing something a bit more than static XML pages. What would be the bare minimum? Do I have to copy the cocoon war and all the libs in it to another deployment or can I use the jars already deployed in the war? Each war has one main sitemap. Each sitemap can have lots of different pipelines. Where did the 'second war file' you mention come from? Did you copy the sitemap and WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf from the Cocoon samples war? What I mean is that, if possible, I dont want to copy the whole MASSIVE jar library in the cocoon distribution war into every blasted web app that I create. There's lots of jars but most of them aren't big. I have lots of webapps with ~8mb of jars in their WEB-INF/lib. What you lose in disk space, you gain in webapp portability. But if you really want a common set of jars, you can put them in Tomcat 4.x's lib/common/ directory. The thing thats stumping the newbie here is how a user uses it. It almost seems like i have to be practically a dveloper on cocoon to use it. I honestly dont care how it works, I just ultimately want to write come generators that smack a EJB and spit out XML that then gets transformed. Basically what i have right now is a normal java servlet that builds a dom document, serializes it to xml and trusts the xsl transform to put out the html and so on. The servlet has a massive number of methods from all the commands being handeled. I want to nuke that servlet and instead write cocoon generators to spit out the xml and then let cocoon do its magic. However after 12 hours of reading, Im still a tad lost. wet blanket mode Cocoon is big and complex (as you've found out). Assuming all you want to do is an XSLT transform on the end of your servlet, and this is a once-off job, I'd suggest just using a JSP taglib or something to query the servlet and transform the result. Some simpler alternatives to Cocoon: http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/standard-doc/intro.html http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/xtags-doc/intro.html http://mav.sourceforge.net/ http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/jelly/ Also, remember you can make a single servlet *appear* to have multiple URIs (one per command) with web.xml servlet-mapping sections and request.getPathInfo(). /wet blanket mode If you want a gentle introduction to Cocoon, you could download Forrest: http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ (essentially 'pre-packaged' Cocoon for project docs). Once installed, you type: mkdir myproj cd myproj forrest seed # Generates a template project, with sitemap forrest webapp # Generates a webapp from your template project forrest run # Runs webapp in a webserver Then view the Cocoon site at http://localhost:/, and you can experiment with the sitemap in build/webapp/sitemap.xmap. ... Fortunately we have a Wiki where anyone can document things. This page looks quite relevant to your question: I will read it ... but I have to say that this looks liek a very powerful front end that once you know it, it is great. Prior to that there is ALLOT of head scratching. And I dont think im any lightweight at programmign either. It's like a sledgehammer.. big, powerful, not suitable for all problems. --Jeff http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SimpleTransformations --Jeff -- Robert - Please check that your question has not already been
Re: WebSphere 5 and Cocoon - new user
We had this sort of problem with Jetty too. The redirect rule from
http://localhost:8080/forrest to http://localhost:8080/forrest/index.html
actually caused a redirect to http://localhost:8080/index.html.
We currently have the following redirect working in Jetty and Tomcat:
map:match pattern=
map:redirect-to uri={request:contextPath}/index.html/
/map:match
This is with 2.1. I can't recall if 2.0.4 has InputModules -- check
WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf for a section like:
input-modules
...
component-instance
class=org.apache.cocoon.components.modules.input.RequestModule
logger=core.modules.input name=request/
There's an Action that can achieve the same thing without InputModules.
...
map:actions
map:action logger=sitemap.action.request name=request
src=org.apache.cocoon.acting.RequestParamAction/
/map:actions
...
map:match pattern=
map:act type=request
map:redirect-to uri={context}/index.html/
/map:act
/map:match
I don't know if this hack is just hiding a Cocoon deficiency, or a valid
workaround for servlet container bugs.
--Jeff
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:00:46AM +0100, Gernot Koller wrote:
Hi!
I posted about similar problems yesterday:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=104316925213149w=2
still looking for a workaround :-(
Gernot
22-Jan-03 01:35:07, Cameron McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to sell my coworkers on cocoon and
WebSphere, but when I install it on websphere 5, both
the WSAD and the server, I get a continual redirect at
the welcome page, and nothing works.
However, the same war works fine on Tomcat and
WebSphere 4. Any ideas? I can't convince my friends
to use Cocoon if I can't get it to work!
-Cameron Mckenzie
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Re: Standard in creatring xml files
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 02:11:05PM +0330, Alireza Fattahi wrote: Hi, We want to create a web site with 40 pages. The site has typical input forms and search/search result pages. We want to have some XSL files as the template for these pages. Of course we should not have 40 xsl files, but 40 xml files. But, how? Here is an example: Suppose we have two search result pages that generate these xml files. 1) customer nameAlireza/name familyFattahi/family /customer 2) product brandIBM/brand price10,000/price /product We should create 2 xsl files for parsing if there are 40 files we should create 40 file! Is it correct? If you want 40 different kinds of output, then you need 40 XSLTs. You could probably make just a few and parametrize them. If you want just a few output formats, you can have intermediate adaptor stylesheets converting a common XML 'searchresults' format. Is there any guideline that can help us creating a standard for these typical applications? What standards should be obeyed by (for example) a typical search result page? RDF is nice and generic. I've used DSML (LDAP searchresult XML format) before. Also, you could reuse the Google search result XML format. See http://www.google.com/apis/ --Jeff Alireza - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: serializing inside a transformer
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:00:41PM +0100, Oskar Casquero wrote: Hi, I would like to serialize SAX events to a file inside a transformer, so that I can validate the file with the parser. The problem is that I don't how to set the serializer in order to make it able to receive the SAX events which the transformer is receiving from the previous component (a generator or another transformer). How about inheriting from DOMTransformer, and then (if possible) validate the DOM directly, or use o.a.c.xml.XMLUtils#serializeNode() to get a String which you can validate? It's a nasty hack though. Best way would be to write a ValidatorTransformer that validates SAX events as they go past: http://iso-relax.sourceforge.net/JARV/JARV.html#use_42 --Jeff ... Oskar - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xinclude performance issues,
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 03:11:37PM -0800, icewind wrote: Let me describe what I am doing: I have a directory that contains .xml files. In my sitemap, I have a pipeline that starts with a DirectoryGenerator on this directory. I then have a transformation that takes the directorygenerator's output and puts some xi:include tags with xpointers to some tags in the xml files I am interested in. I then run the xinclude transformation and serialize to html. You could try the XPathDirectoryGenerator in Cocoon CVS. It lets you specify nodes in each file to include in the directory listing. For instance, to generate a page listing Ant scripts and their descriptions: http://aft.sourceforge.net/examples/index.html I used: map:generate type=xpathdirectory src=content/xdocs/examples#/project/description/ --Jeff - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: serializing inside a transformer
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 07:52:24PM +0100, Oskar Casquero wrote:
I agree with you. I thought that using a serializer would be useful to get
an input source for the parser. But now I see that it would be much better
to use JARV to develop the transformer based only in SAX events (use 4_2 of
JARV), as you suggested.
I have another question, which is the same I did before: how do I set the
VerifierHandler of JARV in order to send to it the SAX events the
transformer is receiving from the previous component? With
super.setContentHandler(verifierHandler), perhaps?
public class ValidationTransformer extends AbstractSAXTransformer {
...
super.setContentHandler(verifierHandler);
...
}
Yes I think so. As an example of this, have a look at how
AbstractSAXTransformer handles 'recorders'.
--Jeff
Thank you
Oskar
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Re: TransFormers
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 01:57:38PM +0900, Tanmay Kumar wrote: Hi all, I am finding Cocoon very useful for our project. Thanks a lot to the developers... I have one requirement like this. Is there any Cocoon class to address this issue? Input will be a DOM node, but while parsing the DOM node all SAX events should be fir. Example: R A101/A BWorld/B /R While it got the root element as 'R', startElement() method should be invoked with proper arguments i.e name, attributelist. Again when the child element is a text node as per DOM(101 in ex.) , characters() method should be fired. I think you want org.apache.cocoon.xml.dom.DOMStreamer: * The codeDOMStreamer/code is a utility class that will generate SAX * events from a W3C DOM Document. If you want to use this in a Transformer, have a look at AbstractDOMTransformer. --Jeff thanks, Tans - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aggregation of xml in a directory
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 02:08:16PM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: Hi folks, I am trying to figure out how to get Cocoon to display all the xml files in a directory without being explicitly told each of their names in the sitemap. Have a look at the XPathDirectoryGenerator in the scratchpad. With it, you can generate a directory listing, with a node extracted from each file. Eg, I used it to extract description elements from a list of Ant scripts: http://aft.sourceforge.net/examples/ The relevant config was: map:sitemap .. map:components .. map:generators .. map:generator name=xpathdirectory src=org.apache.cocoon.generation.XPathDirectoryGenerator/ . !-- examples/index.html, listing all scripts -- map:match pattern=examples/index.xml map:generate type=xpathdirectory src=content/xdocs/examples#/project/description/ map:transform src=resources/stylesheets/antdirectory2document.xsl/ map:serialize type=xml/ /map:match --Jeff I guess I need a combination of the Directory Generator and the Aggregation tools. I am not too worried about the order of the files otherwise I would have to use an XML database - which I would like to avoid if possible. PS I have looked in the Langham/Ziegeler book but can't find anything useful. Do I need to write a DirectoryAggregation Generator in Java? perhaps others would find it useful too. Alex - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XML to PDF
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 01:42:33PM +0200, Marquardt, David wrote: ... Is there any possibility to create a dynamic barcode in XML and to show it in PDF format via Cocoon? http://www.google.com/search?q=barcode+fop looks interesting. --Jeff I'd really appreciate if you sent me a short example! Best regards, David Marquardt - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 09:05:16AM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote: My ISP can provide me with a headless web server running Suse 7.3, Resin 2.4 (I think) and JDK 1.4. He does not want to install the X libraries due to security reasons :-( Is there an alternative? AFAIK pja does not run on JDK 1.4 Xvfb (X virtual framebuffer) works nicely. --Jeff Thanks, Bert This mail is written in 100% recycled electrons. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon on Headless Linux with JDK1.4
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 01:04:29PM +0200, Bert Van Kets wrote: Doesn't Xvfb need the X libraries too? I don't think so; at least Debian doesn't list any X packages as a dependencies, and says Xvfb can be used as an aid to porting the X server to a new platform. --Jeff Bert - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Other webapps with Cocoon
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 04:14:06PM -0500, Mark Kent wrote: Simple question (easy answer?) We are using the JBoss-3.0.0_Tomcat-4.0.3 package and running our webapps from the deploy folder in [JBOSS_HOME]/server/default/deploy (where the webapps are deployed). The Cocoon 2.0.3 (as cocoon.war) runs nicely from there. I have another existing webapp (call it CL) running all of my JSP's from an deploy/cl.ear/cl.war setup. Everything is fine. Each app (mine and Cocoon) runs nicely on it's own. i.e.: [JBOSS_HOME]/server/default/deploy/cl.ear./cl.war [JBOSS_HOME]/server/default/deploy/cocoon.war These are referenced in a URL with: http://localhost/cl/ and http://localhost/cocoon/ Now, I want an existing JSP form from my cl.app to gather and post report selection criteria to create HTML/PDF/XML/CSV reports (using Cocoon and it's nifty serializers). I'm trying to figure out how to configure these under JBoss/Tomcat (mostly Tomcat I think) to send this form to my Cocoon URI which is in a different context (is that the right term?). Sequence: - User logs in to cl app through JSP page and creates Tomcat session var for authentication. - User selects report options from a form in my app. (this page checks for a valid session var before allowing access) - What is the best way to pass (post) these parameters to my Cocoon XML page making sure that the person is logged in before running the report (I don't want to allow any visitor to run reports)? Tomcat 4 has a feature called single sign on: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.0-doc/config/host.html That only works if you're using container-managed authentication (configured in web.xml). Otherwise, I don't know.. perhaps you could have a JNDI context shared between the two webapps? Pass a key from one app to another? Nothing really Cocoon-specific. --Jeff As you can see, my site is running Cocoon for the reporting part only, not all of the other bells and whistles that Cocoon can do (rewriting to use Cocoon only is not an option). My reports DO run just fine from the cocoon URI using Oracle db pooling and XSL styles sheets. How can I call them from my other webapps securely? mark - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with homemade logicsheet
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:25:22PM +, Alan Hodgkinson wrote: ... xsp:styesheet version=1.0 ^^^ Probably just a typo in the email, but make sure that the real thing has 'xsl', not 'xsp'. I've made that mistake a few times ;P --Jeff ... - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon 2.1 Build Problem
On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 02:18:54AM -0500, Ivelin Ivanov wrote: For the last few nights I have been trying to build the latest code from CVS HEAD. build clean webapp-local always succeeds, but the generated class files are corrupted. Also the libraries files copied under WEB-INF/lib are corrupted. I've tried with both JDK 1.3 and JDK 1.4. Same outcome. I've tried building from scratch in multiple directories on my disk. Always the same. Perhaps you have *.class files in src/java/*, and they are being filter-copied to build/cocoon/webapp/WEB-INF/classes. I've just tried: ./build.sh -Dinclude.webapp.libs=yes clean webapp-local and the generated webapp works fine. --Jeff Has any experienced this before? How did you fix it? Any help appreciated, -=Ivelin=- - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XPath transformer?
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:55:03AM +0200, Luca Morandini wrote: Not easily, because the 'match' attribute cannot be dynamic. Eg, I Oh, I see... so you want a *dynamic* selector. Hmm... this was not apparent from your example, It seemed you wanted just a way to select one chapter amongst many. Anyway, I think you should dirt your fingers with Xalan to get want you want. Yes, it can be done with document() I cannot appreciate if this prospective XPathTransformer could be of general use, though... I never had such a need myself. FTR, I submitted an XPathTransformer at http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12235 --Jeff Best regards, - Luca Morandini GIS Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html - - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XPath transformer?
Hi,
I have a user manual in XML format:
document
body
s1 title=Introduction
...
/s1
s1 title=Getting Started
...
/s1
...
/body
/document
Is there any way that I could extract out just one s1 element, and
render it as a page? Ie, like an XPath transformer, that would extract a
single node:
map:match pattern=manual/*
map:generate src=manual.xml/
map:transform type=xpath select=/document/s1[@title='{1}']/
map:transform src=chapter2html.xsl/
/map:match
I could then link to chapters with link
href=manual/Introductionintroduction/link.
Is this possible, or should I write my own transformer?
thanks,
--Jeff
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Re: XPath transformer?
Thanks (Luca too:) for the rapid replies.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:21:47AM +0200, Koen Pellegrims wrote:
What you are trying to do can just as easily be achieved with xslt, can't
it?
Not easily, because the 'match' attribute cannot be dynamic. Eg, I
couldn't do:
xsl:param name=xpath-expr/
xsl:template match=$xpath-expr
xsl:copy-of select=./
/xsl:template
AFAIK this is for the same reason that Cocoon doesn't currently have an
XPath matcher.
If you *really* want xpath, you can always write a small xsp-page that
generates an xinclude-statement and then run it through the
xinclude-transformer (which, IIRC will be merged with the cinclude
transformer into a single 'include'-transformer in the near future).
That's a good idea. I'll have a go.
thanks,
--Jeff
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Onderwerp: XPath transformer?
Hi,
I have a user manual in XML format:
document
body
s1 title=Introduction
...
/s1
s1 title=Getting Started
...
/s1
...
/body
/document
Is there any way that I could extract out just one s1 element, and
render it as a page? Ie, like an XPath transformer, that would extract a
single node:
map:match pattern=manual/*
map:generate src=manual.xml/
map:transform type=xpath select=/document/s1[@title='{1}']/
map:transform src=chapter2html.xsl/
/map:match
I could then link to chapters with link
href=manual/Introductionintroduction/link.
Is this possible, or should I write my own transformer?
thanks,
--Jeff
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Re: FOP again.. And html
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:23:31AM +0930, Tim Cavanagh wrote: Hi, Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question.. I am using fop to serialize pdf from xml docs. Is it possible to substitute or remove html tags that are mixed in with plain text within an XML element. These tags are only simple ones like bxsx/b and OL's, UL's. Can this be done with fo or xslt? Are the tags part of the XML tree, eg: description A bshort/b description /description If so, just copy through the content: xsl:template match=b|ol|ul xsl:value-of select=./ /xsl:template --Jeff - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Content-Disposition Header Field and Reader
On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 10:56:21PM -0400, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: From: Tammo van Lessen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hello, i've a question about sending response headers in a reader. I would like to send a file to the browser with an other filename than the request url. Ex: Request: 20020302.store will be saved as test.zip I think, this could be done with the Content-Disposition header field, but I dont know, where I have to set it in the reader! From HttpHeaderAction.java: * This action adds HTTP headers to the response. Sound like what you need. Sitemap will be close to: map:act type=set-header map:parameter name=Content-Disposition value=test.zip/ /map:act Or to be more RFC-compliant: Content-Disposition: attachment ; filename=test.zip I found this works beautifully in Mozilla, but not at all in IE5.5, which seems to ignore the Content-Disposition altogether. --Jeff Vadim Does anybody have an example for me? Thanks Tammo - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Elephants and Mavericks (Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing)
Thanks for the honest words, instead of silence. I am reminded of the following definition: second-system effect n. When one is designing the successor to a relatively small, elegant, and successful system, there is a tendency to become grandiose in one's success and design an elephantine feature-laden monstrosity. The term was first used by Fred Brooks in his classic The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software Engineering. It described the jump from a set of nice, simple operating systems on the IBM 70xx series to OS/360 on the 360 series. A similar effect can also happen in an evolving system; see Brooks's Law, creeping elegance, creeping featurism. http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/second-system-effect.html The choice is to stick around and help fix things (if indeed they are broken), or jump to a lighter alternative like Maverick: Maverick is a minimalist web publishing framework which combines the best features of Struts and Cocoon and yet is far simpler than either. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=velocity-userm=102387923624439w=2 --Jeff On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 10:41:14PM -0400, John Austin wrote: I'm back from a short vacation in beautiful Chicago (it really is much nicer than Toronto or Montreal) and have waded back in to Cocoon for a couple of days. After just a few hours of poking around I have decided that it will be much simpler for me to simply hand-code a whole hat-full of servlets than to try and pull any meaning out of Cocoon and it's documentation. Fifteen hours on the Interstate wasn't as challenging as trying to figure out how one should check a Web Form this month but I didn't have that feeling of travelling backwards half of the time. I was also able to predict and achieve forward progress (for a change). Thanks guys, but no thanks. Maybe I'm getting old, but I really don't understand the need for all of the complexity and the lack of documentation in this product. On the other hand, I used to feel the same way about the mind-numbing complexity of a certain thirty-year-old mainframe operating system (MVS) produced by IBM back in the sixties and it's patching system (SMP4). So it can't just be my age. Anyway, Cocoon has cost me far morte (a typo that's better than the original word) time than it was worth. The chief problems appear to have been endlessly re-invented terminology for an overwhelming number of 'new concepts' and a complete lack of consistency between different components (i.e. functional code, non-functional examples, unbuildable documentation and a website that doesn't match up with any single released version of the project). I have a lot of respect for the ability of the people who have built this project, but I want them to know that their project appears to be out-of-control and could become very difficult to manage. If experienced developers (like myself) can't figure out how to use enough features in the product to make it worth using, then penetration will be limited and all of your efforts will be wasted. There is more to this business than stuffing in features at the expense of documentation and testing. You have a lot of very good ideas, but the execution of the project as a whole seems to be suffering. I know that I will often look at my JSP and servlet code and think 'XSP and Cocoon were sooo much better!' until I remember that I wasn't ever able to use enough of Cocoon to make a profit. Oh, well, at least all of my test systems have bags of memory now! - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Separating icons' file name from main XSL
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:21:23PM +0100, TREGAN Fabien wrote: Hi, I'm making my first Cocoon application. Like many others, all it does is open an XML file and create a table from it using an XSL file. I'd like to have the definition of each icon's file to be outside of the XSL (to be able to change it update it quikly, use definitions from other .xsl, ...) Wich way is the best : -Have the first XSL create icon wich=..., and a second XSL replace icon by img src=... ? -Use xsl:variables and xsl:include/import ? -Agregate an XML list of icone-name-file-name association ? * -Use the i18n transformer ? -Other Cocoon specific feature I missed ? How about storing the icons in a separate data XML file, which you then load in the stylesheet using the XPath document() function. If you're going to be playing with XSL much, I'd highly recommend Michael Kay's XSLT Programmers Reference. --Jeff Wich are the point that can make the response different in a cocoon environnement from wich it would have been in a standard (servlet/JSP) env ? ?? - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems parsing xml from a foreign source in c2.0.0
Hi Donald,
As a quick and dirty fix, you might want to try the SGML Open Catalog
support that David Crossley added. That way you could map -//NLM//DTD
QueryResult, 22 Jan 2002//EN to either the remote URL, or a local file
(faster).
--Jeff
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 12:29:43AM -0500, Donald Ball wrote:
hey guys. i'm trying to retrieve some xml content over http to begin one
of my pipelines:
/nlm/query?author=Smith
map:match pattern=nlm/query
map:match type=request pattern=author
map:generate
src=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/pmqty.fcgi?db=PubMedamp;mode=XMLamp;dispmax=999amp;term={1}[au]/
map:serialize type=xml/
/map:match
/map:match
the xml returned from the nih server will begin like so:
?xml version=1.0?
!DOCTYPE QueryResult PUBLIC -//NLM//DTD QueryResult, 22 Jan 2002//EN
/entrez/query/DTD/pmqty_020122.dtd
QueryResult
unfortunately, cocoon tosses an exception when trying to parse this
document. it claims that it cannot access the dtd. however, it does not
appear that it's actually trying to get the DTD from the proper url:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query/DTD/pmqty_020122.dtd
since the dtd is actually accessible at that url. it seems like the url
context information for the source xml is lost, which doesn't seem right.
anyone know what's up with that? is there another generator i should be
using?
as a workaround, i tried to figure out how to disable validation to ignore
the issue completely. well, it seems that in c2.0.0, you cannot configure
the parser's validation behavior in the cocoon.xconf file. i looked in the
source for JaxpParser, and was surprised to note the parser factory's are
configured to create non-validating parsers:
public JaxpParser ()
throws SAXException, ParserConfigurationException {
this.factory.setNamespaceAware(true);
this.factory.setValidating(false);
this.docfactory.setNamespaceAware(true);
this.docfactory.setValidating(false);
}
if this is right, why is the parser trying to validate?
- donald
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[OT] Cocoon - jakarta-taglibs similarities
Just a random thought.. Recently, Jakarta taglibs (http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/) and Cocoon have been looking very similar in terms of functionality. Have a look at the list of taglibs. SQL, XSL, XTags, JNDI.. at one time, Cocoon was the only game in town for some of these. No longer. And then there's the IO taglib, which includes a Tag Pipelining Proposal, which defines an API for transformers. A quoted example: xsl:apply xsl=someStylesheet.xsl io:soap url=someSoapURL SOAPAction=doSomething xsl:apply xsl=xmlRpcToSoap.xsl io:xmlrpc url=someXmlRpcUrl io:body methodCall methodNamedo.something/methodName params param valuei41234/i4/value /param /params /methodCall /io:body /io:xmlrpc /xsl:apply /io:soap /io:xmlrpc The above example looks like a relatively small block of XML but its actually doing quite a lot. Reading from inside-out, its calling an XML-RPC service with some XML data then using XSLT to style the result into a SOAP request which is then HTTP POSTed into a SOAP service. The result of the SOAP request is then styled again using XSLT and output to the users browser. (http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/io-doc/index.html) So far, taglibs have lacked the final serializer step, where XML/whatever is rendered to a binary format, but even that is changing, with recent proposals to add an image taglib[1] and an xsl-fo taglib [2]. I think here we have another example of Worse is Better [3]. The JSP virus has spread. People attracted to it's low initial overhead have improved it's functionality to around 90% of what users really need. It may never reach that last 10% (stream-based IO vs. SAX, for example), but it's Good Enough. Thoughts? --Jeff [1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10072519912r=1w=2 [2] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10069506493r=1w=2 [3] http://www.ai.mit.edu/docs/articles/good-news/subsection3.2.1.html - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [c1] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError with custom class?
From xdocs/todo.xml: action context=code bugid=11 Add standard WEB-INF/classes and WEB-INF/lib to XSP classpath. /action So I don't think it's possible with Cocoon 1. It looks like XSP pages have their own classloader (org.apache.cocoon.processor.xsp.language.java.XSPClassLoader), and perhaps that's not delegating like it should. Btw, Tomcat 4 (and 3.3) ignores your system classpath, so setting it on the command-line won't work. I think there's a magic property either in Tomcat or Cocoon that lets you bypass this. Um. Not sure what the solution is :/ --Jeff On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 12:29:59PM -0500, Brent L Johnson wrote: I'm running Cocoon 1.8.2 and I've just upgraded from Tomcat3.x to Tomcat4.0.1. According to Tomcat's documentation, anything in WEB-INF/classes is available (so I dont have to put it in my classpath). I've got my own com.blah.globals package in WEB-INF/classes/com/blah/globals. When I try and import this in my cocoon logicsheet I get a NoClassDefFoundError: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/rrp/globals/Globals at _home._reedy._docs._production._pcteachit_com._temp.init(_temp.java:33) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:237) If anyone has any ideas on this I would really appreciate it. I tried adding it to my classpath and restarting everything and I still get the same error. Thanks! - Brent - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help needed with debugging XSP
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 05:05:44PM +0900, Adam A R wrote: Hello all, I am using Cocoon 1.8 with iAWS server. I have the following flow in my application. XML - XSP - XSLT XML file processed by XSP(actually an XSL) to add dynamic content. The output of which is transformed by a Stylsheet and the result returned to the user. Now, I want to look at the output generated by the XSP. Just remove the ?cocoon-process type=xslt? PI, and change the MIME type specified in cocoon-format to text/xml. So at the top of your XML you'd have: ?cocoon-process type=xsp? ?cocoon-format type=text/xml? You could also leave the XSLT processor in place, but use either: - an identity transform stylesheet that doesn't alter the incoming XML, - a stylesheet that pretty-prints the XML for viewing in the browser (like IE does). I've attached a simple identity transform xsl. You can find a good view XML as HTML stylesheet in xml-xalan/java/samples/servlet/default.xsl When developing, I like to be able to switch to the debug stylesheet without editing XSPs. You can dynamically select the applied stylesheet with an XSP like this: ?cocoon-process type=xsp? ?cocoon-process type=xslt? xsp:page language=java xmlns:request=http://www.apache.org/1999/XSP/Request; xmlns:xsp=http://www.apache.org/1999/XSP/Core; xmlns:util=http://www.apache.org/1999/XSP/Util; page xsp:pi target=xml-stylesheethref= xsp:expr request:get-parameter name=ss default=normal.xsl / /xsp:expr type=text/xsl/xsp:pi /page /xsp:page Then by default, normal.xsl will be applied, but if you append ?ss=identity.xsl, you'll get identity.xsl applied instead. --Jeff cheers Adam ?xml version=1.0? !-- An identity transformation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- xsl:stylesheet version=1.0 xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xsl:output method=xml media-type=text/xml indent=yes/ xsl:template match=/ xsl:copy-of select=node()/ /xsl:template /xsl:stylesheet - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVG, JPEG, PNG and Xvfb
On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 04:59:15PM +1000, Phil Blake wrote: Hi all, I'm making an attempt to get SVG's working. My understanding is that svg2jpeg and svg2png currently has a dependency on Xvfb. I'm running MacOS X so I installed Xfree86, including Xvfb and used the script submitted by someone on the list: if [ $1 = stop ] ; then # kill off any framebuffer running, kill kill kill :-) kill -TERM `/sbin/pidof Xvfb` elif [ $1=start -o $1=run ] ; then # start up a virtual framebuffer for cocoon2's rendering Xvfb :1 -screen 0 320x240x24 ^^ 320x240 is a rather miserable little framebuffer ;) Perhaps try increasing to 1024x768 or something. Just guessing. FYI, here's some Xvfb install notes I wrote for non-Cocoon stuff: http://newgate.socialchange.net.au/~jeff/docs/tomcat/Xvfb.html --Jeff - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [C2] standalone example?
On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:04:29PM -1000, Russell Castagnaro wrote: Aloha cocoon-users, I'm trying to find an example of using C2 standalone. I actually want to use it in an EJB, but first things first. I've looked at the environment package, which seems to have the classes all set up to make it happen. If somebody could just give me a simple example that did this, I think I'd be fine from there. Do you have CVS there? The latest Cocoon in CVS builds it's own documentation offline. Check it out of CVS, and type ./build.sh newdocs. Otherwise, you should be able to type 'java -jar cocoon.jar' and have it run. Your cocoon.jar needs to be in the same directory as the other required jars. As for running in an EJB, that might not be a good idea (though I don't know your situation). Cocoon is meant to be a framework, not a library to be used in other code. --Jeff Much Appreciated -- Mahalo, Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Mentor 4Charity - Changing the world, one click at a time. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon2 -changes in web.xml
Tomcat 4 validates web.xml against a DTD, so yes, order matters. --Jeff On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:20:03AM -0700, Lakshmi Anantharaman wrote: Starting service Tomcat-Standalone Apache Tomcat/4.1-dev PARSE error at line 220 column 13 org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: The content of element type servlet must match (icon?,servlet-name,display-name?,description?,(servlet-class|jsp-file),ini t-pa ram*,load-on-startup?,security-role-ref*). Starting service Tomcat-Apache Apache Tomcat/4.1-dev Thanks Lakshmi - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question (Static HTML from Cocoon2)
For a real-world example of a Cocoon website being generated offline, have a look at the jakarta-avalon documentation system. All driven by Ant.. pretty cool :) wget is probably less hassle though. --Jeff On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 10:51:15AM +0200, Sebastian Mäder wrote: Hi there, my name is sebastian and im a trainee on a company in Gemany. Im was building a website with xhtml and cocoon2 .. Now my big boss said to me, that i have to build a STATIC HTML VERSION of my cocoon site, and I don't know how I can do this. The only way I know is, to save from Browser, but that's not the way. Are there any instructions for the sitemap.xmap or a batch file, which generated this static version ?? I will hope you can help me. How can I get this information? THX Sebastian - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tomcat 4.0 + Cocoon2 rc1 on RedHat 6.2
Other than the obvious try a different JDK advice, you might try looking carefully at what jars you have installed. Tomcat 4.0 comes with a lot of miscellaneous crud in common/lib. Eg, I found that Cocoon 1.8 would cause this sort of VM crash if I used an earlier version of xalan.jar than the one bundled with Cocoon. I ended up switching to Saxon. Also when installing Cocoon on JRun 3.x, I found I had to remove JRun's lib/ext/activation.jar, or things would crash like this. --Jeff On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 05:05:08PM -0600, Lajos Moczar wrote: Hi all: I tried this install today, using JDK 1.2.2_006. The Tomcat code is the 4.0 release version and Cocoon2 is the version announced this morning. When I access http://localhost:8080/cocoon, Tomcat core dumps with stuff like this (in catalina.out): *** SIGSEGV 11* segmentation violation si_signo [11]: SIGSEGV 11* segmentation violation si_errno [0]: Success si_code [0]: SI_USER [pid: 0, uid: 0] stackpointer=0x44884e28 [..] Lajos Moczar galatea.com - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cocoon accessible only from local machine
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 06:58:53PM +0200, Aurelien wrote: Cocoon is installed on my linux workstation on top of JBoss-Tomcat and works fine there, that is: I can browse all the examples from the same workstation. But if I attempt to access it from my LAN, the request either times out or takes an incredible amount of time to succeed (5 minutes+). I've tried that with all kinds of browsers on Windows, Linux and Mac boxes. What can possibly cause that ? Firewalls. Which port are you accessing it on? Many sysadmins block all ports except normal ones. --Jeff Somebody already seen this ? Aurélien - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X11 low-level errors (Re: Installation Problem Solved- C2b2 and Tomcat 4.0 Final)
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 05:08:03PM -0400, Rajkumar, Joseph wrote: Hi Folks This did it and it all works beautifully. I took the stock Tomcat-4.0 binary distribution and Cocoon-2.0B2.tar.gz. The build 'cocoon' with the install option giving it the path to the tomcat webapps directory as given on the install page on cocoon2-page. Removed jaxp.jar and crimson.jar and copied xerces_1_4_1.jar. It wasn't necessary for me. Straight out of CVS, I did a ./build.sh -Dinclude.webapp.libs=yes dist, then copied the cocoon.war to my webapps directory, restarted, and it all worked. That was on one linux box. On another, I got some weird X errors on catalina.out: _X11TransSocketOpen: socket() failed for tcp _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient: Unable to open socket for tcp _X11TransOpen: transport open failed for tcp/10.10.1.136:0 The 10.10.1.136:0 is from my DISPLAY variable, and it points to a working X server (on the box where C2 worked). Xvfb on localhost:1 gives the same error. This is with an identical JVM to the working install (Sun 1.3.0), out-the-box Tomcat and same cocoon.war. I've absolutely no idea on this one. I'm just throwing it out there so that if anyone else is searching the archives with an identical error, we can commiserate together ;P --Jeff - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XSPs vs JSPs
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 03:12:45PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I can't seem to find much information on using JSPs with Cocoon - seems to me that this would be very useful since we already have a fair amount of JSPs, and it's an easier sell to management who is unwilling to commit to a relatively new technology (XSP). my questions is, are there any limitations with regards to using JSPs with Cocoon? e.g. will we be able to use all the JSP tag libraries we already have? and will there be any dependency/integration issues based on the app server we're using (we're using weblogic 6.1) ? finally, what are people's thoughts on the general issue of XSPs vs JSPs? I use JSPs and XSPs in the same app all the time. You only want to call a JSP through Cocoon if you are you generating XML with your JSP, which you then want to style. Otherwise, you're giving up platform-independence and performance for no good reason. From what I gathered, XSPs enforce a clean separation of presentation/content/logic by design, whereas for JSPs you can do that too but it's really up to developer discipline. That's what the advertising leads one to believe, and that was the original intention, but it's not true ;) XSP doesn't *enforce* clean separation. Ideally, an XSP page contains content, and placeholders where the logic should go. The logic is then isolated into logicsheets, which are applied to the content XSP, replacing the placeholders with generated content. But XSP still has a xsp:logic tag, where XSP writers are free to mix content with logic, just like JSP's % % tags. The developers are well aware of this, and there have been intermittent discussions on cocoon-dev about replacing XSP with something better. For now, I'd say stick to JSP, and only use XSP when you really need to. Also consider the many excellent JSP taglibs available [1]. You might also want to look at Struts [2], which has a workflow proposal, the result of which will make the Struts' config file rather similar in concept to Cocoon's sitemap. --Jeff [1] http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/ [2] http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/ Damian - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XSPs vs JSPs
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 09:44:12PM -0700, Thomas Patterson wrote: I abhore both JSP and XSP and instead have relied solely on XML/XSLT and feel that I am far happier for it. The developers stick to creating XML and the GUI folks can work their magic with XSLT. Hell, I can even fairly easily port everything from Java to Microsoft's toolset if needed since it readily supports XML/XSLT. That's the spirit ;) Keep it simple if at all possible. Since the original poster asked JSP or XSP, I'm bound to say that JSP is much simpler, because there's no setting-up to be done (works out the box with Tomcat, no jars to conflict), there's no XML syntax to fight, no namespaces to forget or mistype.. --Jeff -Tom - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java.lang.VerifyError
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 11:25:26AM +0200, Jurgen Lust wrote: Hi, I installed cocoon on my Debian box this week and it works fine for xslt processing and for FO and DCP. However, when i try to load xsp page, I get the following error: java.lang.VerifyError: (class: org/apache/cocoon/processor/xsp/XSPProcessor$PageEntry, method: [snip] I'm using Cocoon 1.8-1, xerces 1.4.3, xalan 1.2.2 and tomcat 3.2.3 with Apache 1.3.20 with mod_jk. I've already checked that there is no other JAXP jar file in my classpath. Aha, but if you're Debian's java package (j2sdk1.3), it does evil things to your classpath without even telling you. Check you have nothing that could conflict in your /usr/share/java/repository directory. --Jeff Does anyone know what I might be doing wrong? Thanks, Jurgen Lust Ghent University St.-Pietersnieuwstraat 136 9000 Gent Belgium [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cocoon 1.8.2 - .htaccess?
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 01:54:35PM -0400, Elisa Green wrote: My search in FAQs and alternative resources have turned up nothing on cocoon security settings with .htaccess. Cocoon has nothing to do with .htaccess. Cocoon runs as a servlet. Access to servlets is determined by the servlet container (tomcat). For apache, security is configured with .htaccess files, but in tomcat it's done with security-constraint entries in your webapp's WEB-INF/web.xml file. Have a look at the servlet spec for more info. --Jeff - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Very beginner question
For a real-world example of how to use Cocoon to build a static site, have a look at Avalon's doc system. It's driven by Ant, handles DocBook + Stylebook, *very* flexible. Hats off to Berin for creating it. --Jeff On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 09:18:30PM -0400, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: It is possible using Cocoon2 and its command line interface (CLI). Download unpack cocoon, then launch run.sh or run.bat, and follow instructions. Vadim -Original Message- From: Duane Kehoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Very beginner question I have recently been shouldered with the task of researching and evaluating java report writing tools for my company and came across Cocoon. Being that my background is in Linux I obviously want an open source solution rather than a propietary one. I have read the documentation fairly thoroughly and keep coming back to this unanswered question - Is it possible to use the Cocoon APIs in stand alone apps to create output be it HTML(viewed directly by client's browser), text, or PDF(not the kind that gets you in trouble with the DMCA !) without having a server side process running? I realize this is an extremely newbie land question but would really appreciate any help/examples, thanks -- Long live the Penguin!!! Duane Kehoe Phone # 414.908.1814 Programmer/AnalystFax # 414.908.1814 Weyco Group, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C2/Tomcat 3.2.2: Include Cocoon-Content in JSP
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 10:39:19PM +0200, Stefan Seifert wrote: I want to include the result of a cocoon transformation as part of another JSP Page as follows: ... jsp content ... % String strIncludeURL = ../cocoon/meeting_agenda.htm?MeetingID=1; % jsp:include page=%=strIncludeURL% flush=true/ ... jsp content ... Unfortunately this does not work. If i use a JSP page as include destination it works. If i type in the Coccon-URL directly, i get the content right. But in combination i get nothing. The cocoon servlet is mapped on /cocoon/*. meeting_agenda.htm is the result of an C2 pipeline serialized as HTML. Hmm.. should work, shouldn't it? Perhaps your unusual .htm extension is confusing something? I usually put Cocoon in a separate context, and use jakarta-taglibs' io taglib to suck in the content. But in your situation, jsp:include should work. --Jeff http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/io-doc/intro.html Any ideas how to include a cocoon page in a JSP page? I've found a sample using jsp:include with C1, but this seems not to work with C2. Stefan - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
