Re: usb mass media storage
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:22:38 +0200 Adrien de Sentenac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ADS) wrote: 2008/9/2 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] rmmod g_ether modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 which kernel/distribution do you use ? it seems I have neither of these modules with om2008.8 (with updates). oh, sorry, i could have thought of this.. :) ASU [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Aug 26 08:33:29 CST 2008 armv4tl unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep kernel | grep image kernel-image-2.6.24 - 2:2.6.24+git75965+cb3cc53a76c7f1f7c827d048db7a849e77071515-r1.01 - -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Workaround for the suspend problem in ASU
To summarize : there is at the moment no way to suspend the Freerunner from either the POW button or using the Suspend Time from Settings. However, the blank time and suspend after blank from the Power setting of the wrench (from the illume-config package or illume-config-illume, I've lost track) are valid. So : * if you want your Freerunner to suspend after 60s, set for example the blank time to 60s ant the suspend after blank to 1s. * if you don't want it to suspend at all (when plugged via usb), set the blank time to off. Note that when you wake the phone, with the POW button, you'll have to tap the screen to get the screen back on since it wakes blank : something else that should be corrected. I also noticed that since upgrading to OM2008.9 testing, it takes much longer than before to wake up, something around 15. I timed it by putting the phone to sleep through apm -s (this way it doesn't wake up blank) or, if it wakes up blank by waiting for the sound of the speaker coming back on. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
Is there any tutorial or howto to configure qtopia on a Freerunner? So far, I could not even manage to get DNS over usb0. Have you looked here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_on_FreeRunner Cheers, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NjuBee - questions
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: I really don't understand why QTopia was not preloaded instead of this 2007.something... This is a manufacturing issue. They have made a test system and have everything set up for automatic testing. To change this system so they put in a newer image is probably not very high on their priority list. Tore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia update
Hi Lorn, any plans to create similar snapshot for gta01? Thanks, Victor. Lorn Potter wrote: I have updated qtopia at qtopia.net Fixes include sms messages not retrieved after resume. Qtopia getting confused between two calls. Make default call volume down and mic up (only in flash update). Added echo fix. Enjoy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NjuBee - questions
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Gunnar Stahl wrote: - Sound: How do I adjust the speaker volume? Currently it blows my ears into oblivion when it is too close to my head. you may that find my settings at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Audio to other mobiles are more bearable; i certainly do. they crank the mic gain and makes the voice in the speaker quieter. perhaps a little too quiet; i hope to adjust the speaker volume up once i have loaded florian hackenberger's echo-cancelling patch (thanks, florian!). - Is there any user-friendly way to turn on gprs/edge? i don't know how friendly you consider a one-liner from the terminal shall to be, but you can find my writeup at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#GPRS if you want. i will be putting it behind a stub GUI app shortly. Any usefull suggestions? if i may, persevere. with the changes i've made above, the 'phone is verging on the fully-usable for me [1]. you may well be able to sort out the four or so things that are show-stoppers for you, with a little hacking and ingenuity, and the help of the excellent user community! i will admit that i spent three hours yesterday re-flashing from the 20080827 root FS image and re-doing all my customisations, in order to back out that dreadful Qtopia upgrade that's buggered so much stuff (qv everywhere on this list). if you can't find a copy of 20080827 and want one, let me know and i'll send you mine. so with a little work it can be got nearly there, and you can't expect much more than that from a fully-free device. hopefully, between the community and openmoko, it'll get better and better as time goes on. my wife, who's no dewy-eyed enthusiast for free software (she's a unix sysadmin, like me) reckons it'll punch the iphone out in a year's time if it reaches its potential. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net [1] most of my remaining gripes are about it's lack of rock-solid behaviour as a 'phone (no headset yet, i call it about 10 times a day to make sure it's still on the network and 2-3 times it doesn't ring, esp. if it's been suspended a while). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia update
Victor Chernyshev wrote: Hi Lorn, any plans to create similar snapshot for gta01? The qtopia update will work for both gta01 and gta02 and use the exact same binaries. The 'flash' files will be separate for obvious reasons. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing Om2008.8 rootfs under Windows is *LONG*
Andrew Chu wrote: Hi Abdel, Actually, the patch is what is compiled into the 0.1+svn beta version of dfu-util for Win32 on projects.openmoko.org. I'm assuming that that is the version that everyone here is using? Yes for me at least. I also am using WinXP SP2 as Benedikt Schindler on these replies is using as well. For the others who experience long flash times on Windows XP, are you also using SP2? I am using Intel Core2 6420 @ 2.13GHz with 3GB of RAM, and USB 2.0 controller. Here: Intel Core2 Duo E4500 @ 2.20GHz with 2GB of RAM, and USB 2.0 controller. My system was Vista but I just upgraded to Vista SP1 and the duration is about the same. I guess the other question is, who else can flash rootfs in under 20 minutes using dfu-util for Win32? What are your configurations (version of Windows (including Service Pack), type of processor, amount of RAM, USB controller version)? Hopefully we can find a commonality among those that experience the long flash times and among those that do not. I suspect a problem with libusb on Vista. Abdel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Fox Mulder wrote: Ok, i also meant the navit developer instead of OM. I know that this problem doesn't exist with normal pc's but it also doesn't harm normal pc's. In fact it does, as there is the background is visible in areas where there was no map drawn before the drag starts. Until than i stick with version 1255 and your patch. But i see that the navit code constantly updates so it would be nice to use the atual version. :) Well, then please apply the patch manually. It isn't that large anyway. Sorry, but I just haven't got the time to update the patch for every change committed to the modified files by upstream. Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Preventing opkg upgrade from flashing the kernel partition
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:06:16 +0200, Mikael Berthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-02 10:57 +0200]: I do want opkg to update the kernel, but I don't want it to touch NAND, because my system is on the SD card. i would expect opkg to update the kernel in /boot -- if you boot from sd it should be the kernel /boot on your sd, if you boot from nand it should be nand. I'm not sure the kernel package scripts have this logic. I doubt it, and that's why I asked ;) true. thinking the issue over, it's rather likely that the postinst script does flashing to an absolute device (/dev/mtdblockSMTH). I tried to find a kernel package to check but I couldn't find one. how's that? if you don't find a kernel package then probably none would be installed. if you got an opkg based distribution installed that already had a kernel upgrade via opkg, look into /usr/lib/opkg/ (i think). either there or in a subdirectory should be a file called kernelpostinst -- have a look at that script what exactly happens when installing. furthermore, opkg might have an option to not execute scripts upon installation. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia update
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 02:30, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have updated qtopia at qtopia.net Fixes include sms messages not retrieved after resume. Qtopia getting confused between two calls. Make default call volume down and mic up (only in flash update). Added echo fix. I have upgraded to version of 08/28 (whole jffs2 image), just keeping my /home then did opkg upgrade, and then upgraded latest qtopia version (via script) I do not to what point this is related, but it is the second time in 2 days that it sucked my battery flat during the night. (apparently suspended ok but I cannot be sure). Before these updates (for about 1 month), it only happened once (I think it was wifi stuck in lookup or something like that). On the other hand, the bug I filled before was corrected : I can select another provider when it is roaming. (but still cannot set manual mode for the currently selected provider, I will have a look at this problem) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Time and Timezone issues...
On Wednesday 03 September 2008, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Setting the right time in my device is the only problem I wasn't able to solve yet since the very first time... :o. What I've done following the Date [1] and Timezone [2] wikis: - installed ntpclient - installed tzdata-europe - set the time using ntpclient -s -h pool.ntp.org - synced with the hardware clock - exported TZ=:/usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Rome in ~/.profile Now, if I re-set the time using ntp I get the right time (in my timezone), but if restart the device (without network connectivity, as generally happens when you boot a phone!) I get back the UTC time ([mytime] - [2hours])! This is too bad! To make my TZ to be considered I must run again the ntpclient, but this need a network connectivity :|. Any suggestion? If I syn-link /etc/timezone to my timezone file the same happens (and on reboot the link is removed). Then, in my phone I've two OS: qtopia (on SD) and 2008.8. I'd like to keep both the clocks synced (not to change the time on each startup). Ah... Time! :| [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Date [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Timezone Could be related to bug 1851 - not sure if this has made it into the updates yet. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1851 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: specific absorption rate
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 01:20, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That assumes the ear piece is the antenna. Not always the case. In the case of the FR, I don't know if this is the case or not. the GSM antenna for the Neo is at the bottom (under the mic, not the speaker). So it is a little less close to your head. And it must also have been taken in account in SAR values -radiations are measured in normal operations, phone put near the head- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Overview of all distros
Hello, I am not able to follow all the discussions about FR, but now I try to get an overview which distributions are available: 1. 2007.2 2. 2008.8 3. qtopia 4. FSO 5. Debian 6. 2008.9(? is comming?) For each of these are own repositories needed? And has it's own philosophy? Is there an overview with prerequsist and pro/con of each in wiki? How should I decide which distro could be my one? -- mfg/br, christian Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: specific absorption rate
You can see in the test pics - they hold the bottom of the phone away from the jaw - just like in actual use. You'd expect lower results from a phone with the antenna down there; the FreeRunner must really kick out some juice ;) 2008/9/3 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 01:20, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That assumes the ear piece is the antenna. Not always the case. In the case of the FR, I don't know if this is the case or not. the GSM antenna for the Neo is at the bottom (under the mic, not the speaker). So it is a little less close to your head. And it must also have been taken in account in SAR values -radiations are measured in normal operations, phone put near the head- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Overview of all distros
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 03.09.2008, 09:57 + schrieb Christian Weßel: I am not able to follow all the discussions about FR, but now I try to get an overview which distributions are available: 1. 2007.2 2. 2008.8 3. qtopia 4. FSO 5. Debian 6. 2008.9(? is comming?) For each of these are own repositories needed? And has it's own philosophy? Is there an overview with prerequsist and pro/con of each in wiki? How should I decide which distro could be my one? Let me comment on Debian. It’s not really a distro (in the Openmoko speak) of it’s own, but a different underlying system for openmoko distros. At the moment, we ship the software from the FSO stack, but hopefully we’ll also have, for example, the Stable Hybrid Release software in our archive. So for now, Debian is a different way of installing FSO, which takes more space and provides more programs :-) Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia update
Yes, I see. I mean qtopia 4.3.3 snapshot for gta01. Lorn Potter wrote: Victor Chernyshev wrote: Hi Lorn, any plans to create similar snapshot for gta01? The qtopia update will work for both gta01 and gta02 and use the exact same binaries. The 'flash' files will be separate for obvious reasons. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia update
Lorn, sorry, I've found the update itself on the server. Applying... Lorn Potter wrote: Victor Chernyshev wrote: Hi Lorn, any plans to create similar snapshot for gta01? The qtopia update will work for both gta01 and gta02 and use the exact same binaries. The 'flash' files will be separate for obvious reasons. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RSS feed for changelog of stable in git - Was: Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ? - Was: Re: Repository and Images
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Julian Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:06:07AM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: Is there a changelog of bugs fixed somewhere ? is the git log helps you? http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=log;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable Great. Would it be possible to have GITweb upgraded / patched (http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/archives/git/0511/11378.html maybe) so that RSS feeds can be output for heads ? Something like http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=rss;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable would definitely rock... but at the moment it only gives the same thing as http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=rss :( I've hacked something quickly (using http://bent.latency.net/git2rss as a base) to produce such an RSS feed : http://www.olivierberger.com/openmoko-200808-stable.xml Btw, looks like some systematic bug # in the changelog of commits made to git would reassure us on the contents of the stable updates ;) Any comments welcome. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Overview of all distros
Christian Weßel escreveu: Is there an overview with prerequsist and pro/con of each in wiki? How should I decide which distro could be my one? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions -- Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Time and Timezone issues...
Yea, I think there's more then one timezone file that needs to be updated. The file is not mentioned in the wiki. I had the same problem, but don't have my phone with me right now so I'm not sure which file it is the wiki doesn't mention. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:09 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Time and Timezone issues... On Wednesday 03 September 2008, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Setting the right time in my device is the only problem I wasn't able to solve yet since the very first time... :o. What I've done following the Date [1] and Timezone [2] wikis: - installed ntpclient - installed tzdata-europe - set the time using ntpclient -s -h pool.ntp.org - synced with the hardware clock - exported TZ=:/usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Rome in ~/.profile Now, if I re-set the time using ntp I get the right time (in my timezone), but if restart the device (without network connectivity, as generally happens when you boot a phone!) I get back the UTC time ([mytime] - [2hours])! This is too bad! To make my TZ to be considered I must run again the ntpclient, but this need a network connectivity :|. Any suggestion? If I syn-link /etc/timezone to my timezone file the same happens (and on reboot the link is removed). Then, in my phone I've two OS: qtopia (on SD) and 2008.8. I'd like to keep both the clocks synced (not to change the time on each startup). Ah... Time! :| [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Date [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Timezone Could be related to bug 1851 - not sure if this has made it into the updates yet. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1851 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
Am Dienstag, den 02.09.2008, 22:34 -0400 schrieb Craig B. Allen: Are you using the testing feed or the unstable feed? Unstable is guaranteed to regularly break. Testing should break rarely. Milestones should not break. Testing, installing image/jffs2. Any predictions for timing of milestone 3? Working on it atm. -- expecting a release somewhere between friday-sunday this week. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD slot + suspend
The workarounds seemed to work for me :) Apparantly it has to do with the GPS interferance workarounds.. you need to turn the (GPS interfering) idle clock back on when you suspend or else corruption. Thanks for the help, all :) On Wednesday 03 September 2008 00:26:54 Doug Jones wrote: Daniel Benoy wrote: I've been having trouble with my SD card ever since I upgraded my kernel (with the unstable feed) and turned on suspend... specifically, it got wiped out :( Multiple times. I don't know if it's a coincidence or now.. I wonder if someone who's brave and doesn't have important data on their card could try reproducing this? Mount a partition and/or run something like badblocks /dev/mmcblk0 and then while that's going suspsend... and see if your data goes poof. Maybe it's just me.. possibly a defective SD card. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community This is a known problem. I'm still waiting for a definitive resolution before I order my FR. It's not just openmoko that's affected. This same bug took down the SD card in my OLPC laptop back in January. There have been persistent rumors that there are people who understand this problem and know how to fix it. But I still haven't seen any announcement that the problem has actually, really, finally been eliminated in any shipping software. Apparently this bug doesn't affect cards of size 512MB and smaller. Many people who are trying to do things that require SD cards are working around the problem by disabling suspend. Battery life suffers, but at least development can happen. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6532 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia update
Lorn, I have updated the Qtopia with qtopia-4.3.3-snapshot-neo-update.tgz but can't see any changes (SMS when suspended, another call, echo - all are stay here). Dates of the files in Qtopia were changed and System Info shows version 4.3.3 (I ran the script on top of flashed 4.3.2 release image for gta01). What's wrong? Thanks, Victor. Lorn Potter wrote: I have updated qtopia at qtopia.net Fixes include sms messages not retrieved after resume. Qtopia getting confused between two calls. Make default call volume down and mic up (only in flash update). Added echo fix. Enjoy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Several stacks on one card
Hello, I am going to buy a new microSD card. I want to install Debian, Qtopia and whatever other image appeals me. Is it possible to make a dual-boot in the card? Something like first a selecting if you boot the flash or the card, and later wich partition in the card you boot. Have I explained me? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Overview of all distros
Hi, I am not able to follow all the discussions about FR, but now I try to get an overview which distributions are available: 1. 2007.2 2. 2008.8 3. qtopia 4. FSO 5. Debian 6. 2008.9(? is comming?) For each of these are own repositories needed? And has it's own philosophy? Is there an overview with prerequsist and pro/con of each in wiki? How should I decide which distro could be my one? Let me comment on FSO, which is only a distro because we can (thanks to OpenEmbedded). Zhone is an independent UI application based on the FSO framework to facilitate testing. If you want to build own UIs or custom applications on the forthcoming Openmoko dbus service framework, then the FSO-image is a good starting point. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
No GSM 2008.08 testing
Yesterday I updated to the testing branch and my moko will no longer register with the GSM network, but was working very well before. Since I have never before investigated GSM issues, would someone please suggest a troubleshooting path? Since my full upgrade path has been Zecke testing - 2008.08 stable - 2008.08 testing, I am suspecting ill configured packages or antiquated config files. What packages might I remove and reinstall or etc? Thanks. -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtopia update
On 2008-09-03, at 16:39, Victor Chernyshev wrote: Lorn, I have updated the Qtopia with qtopia-4.3.3-snapshot-neo- update.tgz but can't see any changes (SMS when suspended, another call, echo - all are stay here). Dates of the files in Qtopia were changed and System Info shows version 4.3.3 (I ran the script on top of flashed 4.3.2 release image for gta01). What's wrong? Would you mind not writing in HTML or at least change this gray background color to white or no-color? I really prefer my own settings when reading text. TIA, -- Pawel Kowalak ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02
Federico Out of interest, wouldn't it be possible to route the GSM audio through the CPU, and then through BT? It may be less then optimal, but I don't see why it wouldn't work? yes... it should be possible to reset the bluetooth adapter to use cpu (hci) routing. I haven't tried this (and it gets a little scary for bricking, etc) but the command to temporarily make the change and reset the adaper looks like: bccmd psset -r 0x1ab 0 this may only take after running it twice. a better option for testing out hci routing would be to turn off the internal bluetooth adapter and attach a csr-based usb adapter to the miniusb port. If you've got a good adapter, after plugging it in you should be able to run: hciconfig hci0 revision and see SCO mapping: HCI then you can follow the instructions that apply to using voice bluetooth audio on a desktop machine. getting the gsm call to route over it will be another hurdle--it's why I asked in another thread if it's possible to record gsm calls. the kernel support for doing hci-routed audio is vastly better in the latest kernel using the btusb driver. That driver may still be in flux. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Several stacks on one card
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 03.09.2008, 17:04 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I am going to buy a new microSD card. I want to install Debian, Qtopia and whatever other image appeals me. Is it possible to make a dual-boot in the card? Something like first a selecting if you boot the flash or the card, and later wich partition in the card you boot. Have I explained me? It should be possible by doing the partitioning yourself, and then configuring the uboot enviroment to your liking. For each uboot menu entry, you can decide where the kernel should be loaded from, and what partition the kernel should use as the root partition. This gives you all options, I think. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Key: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.joachim-breitner.de/ Debian Developer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Several stacks on one card
It should be possible by doing the partitioning yourself, and then configuring the uboot enviroment to your liking. For each uboot menu entry, you can decide where the kernel should be loaded from, and what partition the kernel should use as the root partition. This gives you all options, I think. It seems so. I wasn't very clear about uboot. Many thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
Hello Tim Tim Erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any tutorial or howto to configure qtopia on a Freerunner? So far, I could not even manage to get DNS over usb0. Have you looked here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_on_FreeRunner Yes, of course. But the page doesn't say much beyond the installation process. But then the questions begin: How to get suspend working? How to install language packages? (The Wiki page mentions that English and German are supported out of the box, but the only option I have in the language settings is American.) Where to store music files so that the media player recognizes them? How to connect to the internet without plugging the phone into a desktop machine? What is possible on the Openmoko, what is not yet implemented? In the meantime I found out some of the questions by try and error. But there must be a handbook or something. Greetings Sven pgpkqGMZRdc2m.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
I only can answer a pair of questions. How to get suspend working? Suspend did work for me. Where to store music files so that the media player recognizes them? /media/card . For me, that was the kernel partition, so I had little space to store songs. I suppose this could be solved editing /etc/fstab. Anyway, I think many of these topics should be addressed at Qtopia site. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
Hello World, This is my first post here. How to get suspend working? Suspend did work for me. Suspend is somehow working. If you boot the phone with no power supply, suspend will NOT work. But, after you boot, you should connect the phone to a power source (2 seconds are enough), then... suspend will start to work. At least, this is the case with my FreeRunner. Also, check the Power Management settings from the Qtopia menu. I managed to survive on battery for one day and a half, with very little phone calls and no playing with the phone, and of course with suspend working. Regards, -- Mihai Brehar http://www.mihaibrehar.ro/blog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Building and testing asu with MokoMakeFile and qemu
I'm working an ubuntu hh to build and test asu. I downloaded http://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile changed OM_GIT_BRANCH in org.openmoko.asu.stable after that i did make setup, make setup-machine-neo and make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image. The image was build successfull after several hours, but when i try to do make flash-qemu-local i get an error saying that is not possible to ls files in build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/uImage-2.6.*-om-gta01.bin What do i miss? thanks Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Preventing opkg upgrade from flashing the kernel partition
* arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-03 10:48 +0200]: I tried to find a kernel package to check but I couldn't find one. how's that? if you don't find a kernel package then probably none would be installed. if you got an opkg based distribution installed that already had a kernel upgrade via opkg, look into /usr/lib/opkg/ (i think). Aha, you're right! I was trying to download an opk file, didn't think of looking the opkg directory (for some reason I was convinced that opkg removes these scripts to gain some space). So Qtopia's postinst script contains (...) if [ -f /etc/default/flashkernel ] ; then echo Upgrading Kernel in Flash echo DO NOT stop this process (flashing...) else touch /etc/default/flashkernel fi (I'll check OM2008, I suppose it's the same.) So doing rm /etc/default/flashkernel ; opkg upgrade seems to do what I want. I'll try it. I wonder why the file is created when it doesn't exist, however. furthermore, opkg might have an option to not execute scripts upon installation. Maybe, but that would apply to all packages upgraded by an opkg upgrade session. Thanks for the hint, Arne! -- MiKael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem with usb cable: device descriptor read/64, error -110
Yhaw! It was enough today just to flash this: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin and cdc_ether immediately gave out usb0 (before to even get the usb `new full speed USB device using uhci_h' line, I had to suspend and then wake up. So, it was the kernel's problem (and for some reason the 20080826 did not work (bad image) on my FR DateCode: 20080725). Case close, into the new explorations! ;) and thanks for everyone's care, -- sledge Sarton O'Brien rašė: On Wednesday 03 September 2008 10:32:17 sledgeas wrote: Please, refer to this http://n2.nabble.com/Can-bad-NAND-blocks-cause-USB%27s-%22device-descriptor -read-64%2C-error--110%22---tp835094p835094.html for more full info. A guy in #openmoko suggested my flash blocks might be bad and fs not really dealing with them ok. - could this be causign the usb problem (or even 20080826 kernel's wrong image error for some reason) ? Well the next thing I was going to say was, I can imagine only a few scenarios: - Bad flash procedure - Bad image - Bad hardware If you are doing everything by the book and your images aren't corrupt, it does sound like your flash is fubar. You haven't showed any commands or output during your flashing procedures so it is still really hard to tell. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one big problem. Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much more to my liking with window resize and move functions. But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at. Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button? I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle in the zhone-session file before starting xfwm. Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: Moin, I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox-wm on debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone-session only prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though. Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/how do I need to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4? -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
Dear Sven, Everybody sincerely regrets that there are only three pages in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Qtopia I suspect the reason is simply that a majority of active wiki editors use other distributions. Having a fresh view about what is missing from the wiki is always a one-time opportunity. Please seize it, establish an account and help write the missing manual: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Special:Userlogintype=signupreturnto=Qtopia_on_FreeRunner Thanks in advance for sharing your findings, Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
German for Qtopia
Hello I'm still struggling with qtopia (4.3.3-snapshot-09012242). In the language settings I have English (U.S.) as the only choice. According to the Wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_on_FreeRunner German should be shipped together with the image. But where? /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/etc/dict contains only the sub-folder en_US. So I think something is not installed. Can anybody explain how I can get a German localisation, incl. predictive keyboard? Thanks Sven pgpis8dGQHYWu.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where to store music files so that the media player recognizes them? /media/card . For me, that was the kernel partition, so I had little space to store songs. I suppose this could be solved editing /etc/fstab. Hm ... ls -l /media/card gives several input/output errors on my device. So I don't dare to copy files into that directory. Anyway, from where have you got this information? The installed help function says much about how to build and play a playlist etc. but nothing about how to introduce files to the player. Can a documentation be really so poor? I tend to think I'm missing something really obvious, which is clear to all others but me. I believe there must be some kind of handbook, maybe one that is shipped together with a device with a pre-installed Qtopia. But I cannot find anything like that. Greetings Sven pgpCBdxcwZpsU.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moin, you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a - -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the screen. (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry 480x210+0+430 ) regards, morlac Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder: You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one big problem. Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much more to my liking with window resize and move functions. But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at. Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button? I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle in the zhone-session file before starting xfwm. Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: Moin, I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- wm on debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- session only prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though. Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ how do I need to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4? -Marcel - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIvujnr81gVylJyzERAkcyAKC9quRJKa5eAtdWCx48R7azxZGuiQCg3uPi uVEbXaua4qNU8m1Ib8GxdOY= =SD0f -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top again. :/ Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moin, you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the screen. (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry 480x210+0+430 ) regards, morlac Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder: You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one big problem. Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much more to my liking with window resize and move functions. But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at. Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button? I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle in the zhone-session file before starting xfwm. Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: Moin, I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- wm on debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- session only prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though. Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ how do I need to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4? -Marcel -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all windows. When i set the keyboard window to always on top it gets over all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances. And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :) Ciao, Rainer Fox Mulder wrote: Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top again. :/ Ciao, Rainer Christian Adams wrote: moin, you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the screen. (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry 480x210+0+430 ) regards, morlac Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder: You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i got one big problem. Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much more to my liking with window resize and move functions. But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after key press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all with xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at. Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button? I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle in the zhone-session file before starting xfwm. Ciao, Rainer Marcel wrote: Moin, I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox- wm on debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone- session only prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though. Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/ how do I need to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4? -Marcel -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --END CONTACT BLOCK-- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OM_GIT_BRANCH for Om2008.8-update
Hi! Can someone from the OM buildhost team please tell me which git branch is used to build the update packages which are enabled by default on the image which can be downloaded here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ It's not org.openmoko.asu.dev (the versions for qtopia-phone-x11 differ). Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No GSM 2008.08 testing
I've received Freerunner and istalled testing daily build today. Same error here. Also, it's nice that no package depends on qtopia-phone-x11-composer-emailcomposer, qtopia-phone-x11-composer-genericcomposer, qtopia-phone-x11-composer-mmscomposer, qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-genericviewer, qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-smilviewer. At least not qtopia mail and dialer. It was truly linux-way quest to discover theese application (caller and mailer) need in those libraries. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gamepad for openmoko
Hi guys, i have found a gamepad for the openmoko device: http://www.pearl.de/a-HZ1400-4046.shtml?vid=917 is there a way to connect this via bluetooth to the phone? ciao, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.8]+ 3 Sept upgrade [Qtopia] Address book
Hi. Short version: Is there a way to create qtopia address book Groups during .vcf import ? And to start qtopia address book on groups instead of contacts ? Long version: Each time I reflash my FR (and it's relatively frequent ^^), I need to re-import my whole address book. Easy to do, but when I want to call somebody, I need to scroll a lot of my book... Is there a way to auto create groups during import, or can I import a file containing group definitions? Thanks a lot. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem with usb cable: device descriptor read/64, error -110
On Thursday 04 September 2008 04:56:48 sledgeas wrote: Yhaw! It was enough today just to flash this: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/Om2008.8-gta02-20080 903.uImage.bin and cdc_ether immediately gave out usb0 (before to even get the usb `new full speed USB device using uhci_h' line, I had to suspend and then wake up. Ah good. So, it was the kernel's problem (and for some reason the 20080826 did not work (bad image) on my FR DateCode: 20080725). Case close, into the new explorations! ;) and thanks for everyone's care, I'd hoped your image was corrupt ... for you sake :) Well done. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: German for Qtopia
Hey Sven, as far as word prediction is concerned: cp the en_EN directory to _en_EN, mv en_EN to de_DE ln de_De to en_EN replace de_DE/words.dwag with: http://www.file-upload.net/download-1088244/words.dwag.html restart x-server done. Hopefully.^^ don't know how to get äöüß on the keyboard though.. If instructions on how to compile your own words.dwag ask for it, tomorrow I should be in better mood for it ;) Richy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.8/testing] where is pand?
Am I the only one to find that pand (the Personal Area Network daemon) is missing and that it is no longer possible to establish a bluetooth network connection with OM2008.8?... Vasco Névoa wrote: Up-to-date 2008.8/update with testing feeds here. I can't find the pand to establish a bluetooth network connection. Can anyone tell me which package installs it? Thx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU keyboards, again
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: the illume keyboard is the one with full qwerty and no fancy graphics.. also able to have fancy graphics just by a theme changes and can also do prediction (correction) or no correction as desired (the terminal keyboard layout basically disabled any dictionary lookup/correction as it sends keys directly as pressed and doesn't compose in the buffer, but the default layout does compose words and thus use whatever dictionary you have selected). it supports multiple dictionaries at the same time (just select the system one) a personal dictionary (where anything you type gets added in and thus the keyboard learns your typing habits), and also supports multiple keyboard layouts (where you just can edit a .kbd data file to define a new keyboard layout and add extra keys or remove them, shuffle them around etc.) I was wondering... Why not adding a special option under dictionaries not to use a dictionary at all and disabling the spell check while writing? I know that the same can do editing the keyboards file, but you can figure that this is quite annoying if you'd like to have more keyboard layouts and you should rewrite them not to use the spell check correction. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU keyboards, again
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:58:26 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: the illume keyboard is the one with full qwerty and no fancy graphics.. also able to have fancy graphics just by a theme changes and can also do prediction (correction) or no correction as desired (the terminal keyboard layout basically disabled any dictionary lookup/correction as it sends keys directly as pressed and doesn't compose in the buffer, but the default layout does compose words and thus use whatever dictionary you have selected). it supports multiple dictionaries at the same time (just select the system one) a personal dictionary (where anything you type gets added in and thus the keyboard learns your typing habits), and also supports multiple keyboard layouts (where you just can edit a .kbd data file to define a new keyboard layout and add extra keys or remove them, shuffle them around etc.) I was wondering... Why not adding a special option under dictionaries not to use a dictionary at all and disabling the spell check while writing? I know that the same can do editing the keyboards file, but you can figure that this is quite annoying if you'd like to have more keyboard layouts and you should rewrite them not to use the spell check correction. just use the Terminal layout then. as such the dictionary lookup ALWAYS gives you exactly what you typed too as an option (even if you didn't hold and press to drag and select in zoom mode). it may not be listed as the most likely thing - so press the dict button, but it will LEARN so after you have entered the things you do use once - they will turn up. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
Fox Mulder wrote: Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Since I don't yet have Debian installed, could you please check my instructions at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_replace_the_matchbox_window_manager_with_the_xfce_window_manager.3F ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?
Fox Mulder wrote: Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work. Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :) Since I don't yet have Debian installed, could you please check and correct as necessary my instructions at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_replace_the_matchbox_window_manager_with_the_xfce_window_manager.3F ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Time and Timezone issues...
Harald Koenig wrote: On Sep 03, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: - exported TZ=:/usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Rome in ~/.profile your ~/.profile isn't valid for system processes and at boot time etc. if at all, this should go to /etc/profile I didn't mentioned, but I tested also that solution, but it didn't work but here you also see the right solution[tm]: better not set TZ but do once (once after every update/upgrade?!): cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Rome /etc/localtime and for restart/reboot problems have a look at http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1851 Many thanks. Now it seems to work! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to start X as non root user without using display manager
I'm hoping to boot into a non privileged user to use the phone. Does anyone know how to start X as a non root user without using a display manager. My attempts to simply add --chuid name|uid option to start-stop-daemon result in the error message - X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. If I login using a usb keyboard an issue startxfce from the shell there isn't any problem. Thoughts? Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Using a vcard address book on debian/zhone
I've just installed debian on my freerunner and the thing I was missing most was the possibility to import contacts since I do not store my contacts on the SIM card. If anybody also has the same problem here is a very quick and dirty hack which allows to use a vcard address book as source for the phone book. I've tested it with a vcard 3.0 address book exported from kontact. Please note that things like editing entries do NOT work with this hack. Just replace the function prepare in the class pyphone_contacts in the file /usr/bin/zhone by the following: def prepare( self ): if not self.ready and not self.busy: file = open(/root/addressbook.vcf, r) entries = [] entry_nr = 1 name = None number = None for line in file: if line.startswith(END:VCARD): if name and number: entry = entry_nr, name, number entries.append(entry) entry_nr = entry_nr + 1 name = None number = None if line.startswith(FN:): name = unicode(line.partition(:) [2].strip(), utf8, utf8) if line.startswith(TEL;TYPE=CELL:): number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip()) file.close() self.cbPhonebookReply(entries) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Time and Timezone issues...
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: better not set TZ but do once (once after every update/upgrade?!): cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Rome /etc/localtime Even better to make that a symlink, then if your city ever changes it's daylight savings rule, then you will automatically get the update. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call
On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 12:04:03AM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Am Montag, 1. September 2008 23:18:02 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Should the else statement be at the same indent as the if?
No, the else refers to the try/except clause.
DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method
Release with signature i on interface org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call
doesn't exist
Oops, it's probably called ReleaseCall. If in doubt about signatures, use
mdbus to introspect.
Finally figured it out.
obj = bus.get_object( org.freesmartphone.ogsmd,
/org/freesmartphone/Device/GSM )
should be
obj = bus.get_object( org.freesmartphone.ogsmd,
/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device )
I also had to import subprocess and dbus.mainloop.glib
Here is the corrected python code in full:
import dbus
import dbus.mainloop
import dbus.mainloop.glib
import gobject
import subprocess
actions = { \
+491002:/usr/bin/foo1,
+491002:/usr/bin/foo2,
+491003:/usr/bin/foo3 }
def onCallStatus( index, status, properties ):
if status == incoming:
try:
action = actions[properties[peer]]
except KeyError:
pass
Re: specific absorption rate
Joseph Reeves wrote: You can see in the test pics - they hold the bottom of the phone away from the jaw - just like in actual use. You'd expect lower results from a phone with the antenna down there; the FreeRunner must really kick out some juice ;) Maybe this accounts for the clicking in my jaw of late ;) I don't think it really matters about placement, although, further from your brain is always helpful! Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Dienstag, den 02.09.2008, 22:34 -0400 schrieb Craig B. Allen: Are you using the testing feed or the unstable feed? Unstable is guaranteed to regularly break. Testing should break rarely. Milestones should not break. Testing, installing image/jffs2. Any predictions for timing of milestone 3? Working on it atm. -- expecting a release somewhere between friday-sunday this week. How's the core functionality looking? Milestone 2 looked great but I had some real issues doing more than one thing without something locking up are being troublesome. Despite the problems, I really like where FSO is going. I've started coding in python for my own projects (not for any particular reason) and when FSO is usable, it may provoke me into contributing. I just need something that works at least as well as om2008, phone-wise. Looking forward to testing milestone 3 regardless. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
Sven Bretfeld wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where to store music files so that the media player recognizes them? /media/card . For me, that was the kernel partition, so I had little space to store songs. I suppose this could be solved editing /etc/fstab. Hm ... ls -l /media/card gives several input/output errors on my device. So I don't dare to copy files into that directory. Anyway, from where have you got this information? The installed help function says much about how to build and play a playlist etc. but nothing about how to introduce files to the player. Can a documentation be really so poor? I tend to think I'm missing something really obvious, which is clear to all others but me. I believe there must be some kind of handbook, maybe one that is shipped together with a device with a pre-installed Qtopia. But I cannot find anything like that. Welcome to open source :) ... or more to the point, the open source edition of Qtopia. I imagine the full version has smb/cifs and usb mass storage out of the box but with this version you have to use you imagination a bit. Being linux, transfer methods vary from person to person. I use scp/sftp to transfer to /media/card/audio. I have a fat32 formatted, 'known to work' sd card installed. I'm not quite sure what's up with yours though. Once you _have_ got something across, it will automatically appear within the media browser. I read /media/card somewhere (I'd bet the wiki), transfered, tried and it worked. I imagine most people have a similar experience hence no elaboration on how to actually transfer the files etc. For convenience, KDE supports fish:// for drag and drop functionality with ssh. I think filezilla supports sftp ... if not, I'm sure there are plenty of gui apps available. You'd simply need to connect to your phone's IP address. As someone stated before, the wiki would definately benefit from your experience once you figure out the best method, as it's hard for some of us to see it from certain perspectives. Hope that helps. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
