Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
2008/10/12 Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. great stuff, found some interesting things there already would you be interested in turning it into a true repository? with an entry for the .conf file for opkg? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:21:06 -0400, Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Raster's Illume keyboard, and select the Terminal layout, and most of I guess it's the part that I don't get. What means Raster's Illume keyboard and how do I select another keyboard? I've read the Wiki about it, but I must be too dense to understand it; it always seems to refer to a system that looks different from mine. I have installed 2008.9 with few changes as of now. I guess I'll try again, Stefan try: opkg install illume-config illume-config-illume Should net you the 'qwerty' icon on the left in the Top Shelf. When selected it will open Raster's Illume keyboard. (which should be the default keyboard at this point, though you may need to restart - at least xserver-nodm - and it WILL occasionally revert to the Qtopia keyboard, particularly when changes or updates to something Qtopia are made. if it shows the predictive keyboard (Raster's version) then tab the icon at the top-right of the keyboard and select 'Terminal' from the list. Back up the 89qtopia before updating wholesale, and replace it when the keyboards fail. Less pain, more gain. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/10/12 Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. great stuff, found some interesting things there already would you be interested in turning it into a true repository? with an entry for the .conf file for opkg? It really is a sad commentary on the state of official Openmoko repositories that this question is even asked. The state of affairs *should* be that you just get the application name from opkg.org, and then type opkg install name on whatever distribution you are running (or select the application name from the GUI installer application on the device) and it installs flawlessly from the official feeds for that distribution. Have we all given up on that scenario (which is commonplace in other community projects) and must resort to even more third-party repositories which do nothing more than mirror bits and pieces of all the existing disparate repositories? Please, let's make this the best site for *finding* new applications and deciding which ones to install, but hook it into the existing repositories and improve them instead of creating yet more repositories to confuse people, become out of date, and cause upgrade nightmares when they are not consistent with the base images ... -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
2008/10/13 Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It really is a sad commentary on the state of official Openmoko repositories that this question is even asked. The state of affairs *should* be that you just get the application name from opkg.org, and then type opkg install name on whatever distribution you are running (or select the application name from the GUI installer application on the device) and it installs flawlessly from the official feeds for that distribution. oh, you're completely right to be entirely honest, i was asking for two reasons - one, to suggest to Tobias to do this, but also to prompt openmoko to 'head him off at the pass', so to speak, and do it themselves i fear of these two, only the former will happen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joel Newkirk wrote: Now I've successfully booted from uSD with Base Image and 2.6.27. Linux om-gta02 2.6.27-andy-tracking_2ffb4cc483642df1-mokodev #12 PREEMPT Sat Oct 11 13:06:05 BST 2008 armv4tl unknown. (although every other attempt or so it seems to hang at a blank console with a blinking cursor, not really mapped that behavior out yet) Depending on your rootfs (ie, Debian) it can be doing fsck on your ext3 filesystem during initscripts there and seem pretty hung -- you'd be able to see it with debug board. Which one way or another goes to highlight that Qi - as it stands now and from what I understand of the intention for it - will not be usable for a dual-boot setup. Not a problem actually, as NOR uBoot will let us achieve What's planned for partition selection is you will in future be able to press AUX while Qi is pulling in the kernel it selected to abort the load and move to next usable partition, so I think multiboot will work out fine if you can remember which n'th rootfs it is you want... hopefully only a problem for people with 2. that, and I realize that the common target case will be a user who wants a smartphone, not a multiboot development platform. I just realized that the default behavior of Qi being uSD and the default behavior of uBoot being NAND means you could place 'primary' on uSD and 'secondary' in NAND, and booting to secondary is just two-step - NOR boot with aux+power, then power again to boot. Don't you love that feeling when things start to click? :) Now I have Base/Empty firing up by default, Raster+FSO if I use aux to invoke NOR Uboot. It's a nice idea to leverage NOR but I think Qi will take care of it soon and allow more that one alternative rootfs. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjy+hIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMr5TgCglEzStrw+GUdzuGSgH8cIgT97 gEoAn0RzSvpWC7BQsaJDlbYrXj482XZ5 =V6W/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] process 'events/0' consuming a lot of CPU loops
Hello, I encounter from time to time the situation that the FR behaves slowly, for example in launching the Contacts or other stuff; this is because one process consumes a lot of CPU usage; top shows: Tasks: 69 total, 2 running, 67 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.6%us, 25.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 71.5%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.9%si, 0.0%st Mem:123856k total, 110628k used,13228k free, 28k buffers Swap:0k total,0k used,0k free,56348k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 5 root 15 -5 000 R 19.6 0.0 59:31.35 events/0 7239 root 20 0 2252 1100 884 R 3.8 0.9 0:03.10 top 298 root 15 -5 000 S 3.2 0.0 7:35.50 SDIO Helper 1396 root 19 -1 16280 8464 2124 S 0.9 6.8 9:31.73 Xglamo 1443 root 20 0 19824 10m 5968 S 0.6 8.5 9:29.57 enlightenment 7217 root 20 0 2336 928 740 S 0.3 0.7 0:00.64 dropbear 1 root 20 0 1524 564 500 S 0.0 0.5 0:07.42 init note the proc 'events/0' with nearly one hour of CPU utilisation after around 22h uptime; what is the reason for this? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:34, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's planned for partition selection is you will in future be able to press AUX while Qi is pulling in the kernel it selected to abort the load and move to next usable partition, so I think multiboot will work out fine if you can remember which n'th rootfs it is you want... hopefully only a problem for people with 2. But in this case will you have visual feedback on this partition switch ? For more complex multi-boots, could the solution be a partition booting a simple kernel and show a multi-boot screen, from were you can ask Qi to re-boot on a given other partition ? (or even simply continue with already loaded kernel if wanted) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] process 'events/0' consuming a lot of CPU loops
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:03:56AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I encounter from time to time the situation that the FR behaves slowly, for example in launching the Contacts or other stuff; this is because one process consumes a lot of CPU usage; top shows: Tasks: 69 total, 2 running, 67 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.6%us, 25.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 71.5%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.9%si, 0.0%st Mem:123856k total, 110628k used,13228k free, 28k buffers Swap:0k total,0k used,0k free,56348k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 5 root 15 -5 000 R 19.6 0.0 59:31.35 events/0 7239 root 20 0 2252 1100 884 R 3.8 0.9 0:03.10 top 298 root 15 -5 000 S 3.2 0.0 7:35.50 SDIO Helper 1396 root 19 -1 16280 8464 2124 S 0.9 6.8 9:31.73 Xglamo 1443 root 20 0 19824 10m 5968 S 0.6 8.5 9:29.57 enlightenment 7217 root 20 0 2336 928 740 S 0.3 0.7 0:00.64 dropbear 1 root 20 0 1524 564 500 S 0.0 0.5 0:07.42 init note the proc 'events/0' with nearly one hour of CPU utilisation after around 22h uptime; what is the reason for this? Yeah, I think that's this: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1597 If you have new data about it, it would be real nice to register in the ticket :) Rui -- Or is it? Today is Sweetmorn, the 67th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] matchbox-keyboard font
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin, does someone know how to change the font matchbox-keyboard is using with debian? for me the keyboard sometimes is hard to read with distance FR - eye greater 50cm regards, morlac - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFI8zhIr81gVylJyzERAii4AKCS1K58WfvwjBK2EKM5dN69q41f2gCePAMB dSKKJT5xg7RGw1EaPHBS68c= =HESs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Peter Fey wrote: 2008/10/9 Carsten Gerlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am Donnerstag 09. Oktober 2008 9:36:26 am schrieb Christ van Willegen: this morning, I pulled the FR adapter out of the (230 VAC) socket, and accidentally touched one of the prongs. I experienced a short shock. I can confirm that. I had the same feeling this morning, too. I got a shock when I unplugged the FR adapter because the Europlug-USplug-adapter didn't stay in place. The latch holding it in place was loose and my fingers touched the USplug while the Euro-End was still in the wall outlet. This is my explanation for getting a shock, even though I did not (want to) reproduce this. (also note the above posters names seem European) Some tape fixes this hardware bug. Peter I've had the same electric shock (230VAC) some months ago with Motorola E1000 and it's original charger-adapter and when I bought FR I've been more carefull with pluging and unpluging it's charger-adapter but still I think it should have been made a little more safety. Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using the neo as a Bluetooth external gps...
2008/10/13 Alex Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicola Mfb wrote: It may be interesting to serve raw nmea gps output over bluetooth to have it used by some other phones/pda with routing/navigation software. This will permit to test gps accuracy against usual bt gps antennas, and to eliminate another device, cable and battery from my car :))) Any idea about this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Bluetooth_GPS_relay Thank you! i really missed it :) It's a nice trick I'll use this weekend, while investigating if CreateProxy dbus bluez api runs well. Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cédric Berger wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:34, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's planned for partition selection is you will in future be able to press AUX while Qi is pulling in the kernel it selected to abort the load and move to next usable partition, so I think multiboot will work out fine if you can remember which n'th rootfs it is you want... hopefully only a problem for people with 2. But in this case will you have visual feedback on this partition switch ? We can flash an LED to acknowledge we skipped that partition, so you can see what's happening. For more complex multi-boots, could the solution be a partition booting a simple kernel and show a multi-boot screen, from were you can ask Qi to re-boot on a given other partition ? (or even simply continue with already loaded kernel if wanted) Yes... it's also discussed, a recovery / backup kernel and rootfs that can execute other kernels. There are big advantages for us in a normal Linux implementation that is actually maintainable from single source tree for kernel and common packageset for the rootfs associated with it. Networking can be up so you can ssh in to rescue or update partitions, etc, all the normal Linux goodness comes pretty much for free then. But in general it will be slower than clicking AUX if all you want is to select another partition. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjzEZEACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoh7gCeIZJz1/UtUVHQvRs1oh+NQYRt OqAAniXqMQlj6s40yKgvClFYQG7GGo7u =Q+nx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
2008/10/9 Carsten Gerlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am Donnerstag 09. Oktober 2008 9:36:26 am schrieb Christ van Willegen: this morning, I pulled the FR adapter out of the (230 VAC) socket, and accidentally touched one of the prongs. I experienced a short shock. I can confirm that. I had the same feeling this morning, too. I got a shock when I unplugged the FR adapter because the Europlug-USplug-adapter didn't stay in place. The latch holding it in place was loose and my fingers touched the USplug while the Euro-End was still in the wall outlet. This is my explanation for getting a shock, even though I did not (want to) reproduce this. (also note the above posters names seem European) Some tape fixes this hardware bug. Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Hi folks, yesterday I tried to use qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer and some ogg/mp3 files to transform the FR into a digital audio player. I have encountered 3 software problems : 1. audio quality is bad (whereas it is good with Debian+Sonata/Mpd, so definitively not a hardware problem here) : is there a way to tune some parameters ? 2. external speakers still work after headphones being plugged : is there an alsa subtlety here ? (it switches automatically with Debian) 3. software relies upon tags, which I do not use at all. I have a precise filesystem scheme and no need of tag-based players trying to sort my music. Is there a way of telling the thing to stop trying to be smart ? I need a dumb soft here ;) qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer seems totally usable with fingers, and that's the big motivation for me to use it. Thanks in advance, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko Wiki :CategoryCloud Extension add
Dear All: Openmoko IT guys already add mediawiki extension Categorycloud. When you create a new page , or edit a page, you can use it to select the categories. And your new page will be put on the index page automatically. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Robin Paulson a écrit : 2008/10/13 Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: how did you get it to recognise tags? i imported some songs, all with id3 tags. none of the tags were recognised, the songs are all listed by filename, with 'unknown artist' and 'unknown album' any ideas? In fact the files I used were not tagged, therefore I saw all my songs in 'unknown album' / 'unknown artist' and thought this soft relies upon tags. Maybe I would have had the same result with tagged files, who knows ? I will do some additional tests this evening to see if tags are recognized. Xavier. PS : were your files ogg, or mp3 with ID3v1 tags or ID3v2 tags ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, yesterday I tried to use qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer and some ogg/mp3 files to transform the FR into a digital audio player. I have encountered 3 software problems : snip, cannot comment on the two first 3. software relies upon tags, which I do not use at all. I have a precise filesystem scheme and no need of tag-based players trying to sort my music. Is there a way of telling the thing to stop trying to be smart ? I need a dumb soft here ;) Surely a program which grabs the information from your well-designed file system schema would work for you here? The trick is, doing it in this manner (that is, with tags) makes sure you have processing power left over when browsing the music, as all the tags are cached in a high-performance database. It also gives you the advantage of being able to find tracks directly by artist or by album or by... you get the idea, i'm sure :) While your filesystem is optimal for a single path through the music, the method used in the qt mediaplayer makes sure that the information is accessible through a number of different paths. So... give tags a shot before you discard their usefulness ;) qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer seems totally usable with fingers, and that's the big motivation for me to use it. On a related topic, the media player designed by the Qt people is rather simplistic, and while it works quite well, the Amarok team is working on a new player based on the technologies in Amarok 2 - what that means is that you'll be able to do all sorts of interesting things... This is again all tags based stuff, so may well not be what you want, but as general information for other people ;) ..leinir ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
Nishit == Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Back up the 89qtopia before updating wholesale, and replace it when the keyboards fail. Less pain, more gain. I have no idea what you're talking about. What wholesale update are you referring to? What failure of keyboards? What do you gain? Could you expand a little for me poor novice here? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:45:01AM +0200, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Hi folks, yesterday I tried to use qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer and some ogg/mp3 files to transform the FR into a digital audio player. I have encountered 3 software problems : 1. audio quality is bad (whereas it is good with Debian+Sonata/Mpd, so definitively not a hardware problem here) : is there a way to tune some parameters ? 2. external speakers still work after headphones being plugged : is there an alsa subtlety here ? (it switches automatically with Debian) 3. software relies upon tags, which I do not use at all. I have a precise filesystem scheme and no need of tag-based players trying to sort my music. Is there a way of telling the thing to stop trying to be smart ? I need a dumb soft here ;) qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer seems totally usable with fingers, and that's the big motivation for me to use it. 4. battery life :) Rui By the way what compilation options should i use to get mms:// in mplayer of openembedded because in debian it works(but does not use libmad and similar fixed point library)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Hello, I finally found a place in the qtopia sources where I could put code for activating the echo suppression for every incoming/outgoing call. I'm quite sure that experienced qtopia programmers would find a better place for it. But this just works. And as long as no other solution is out there I will share it with other people who want to combat the echo. The patch is against the latest snapshot of Holgers qtopia git. commit: 09335e76e1762b97dad23b997978424ed10f8da1 Unfortunately this version doesn't load the gmshandset.state file when a call is initiated. When compiling with this patch a new libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4.3.2 is created. I replaced this lib with the one on my OM2008.9. Instead of compiling it yourself you can download the file here: http://danielnoethen.de/libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4.3.2 Just replace it with the one in /opt/Qtopia/lib and restart qtopia with: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart In combination with this gsmhandset.state file the volume of your calling partner is loud enough, and vice versa. http://danielnoethen.de/gsmhandset.state It should work with every distro that uses qtopia-phone-x11_4.3.2 Regards, Daniel *** qmodemcall.cpp_orig 2008-10-13 13:49:37.0 +0200 --- qmodemcall.cpp 2008-10-13 14:06:02.0 +0200 *** *** 164,169 --- 164,173 return; } + + // Send the echo and noise suppression command to the device. + provider()-atchat()-chat(AT%N0187); + // Send the ATD command to the device. provider()-atchat()-chat ( provider()-dialVoiceCommand( options ), *** *** 309,314 --- 313,322 command = provider()-acceptCallCommand( false ); } provider()-atchat()-chat( command, this, SLOT(acceptDone(bool)) ); + + // Send the echo and noise suppression command to the device. + provider()-atchat()-chat(AT%N0187); + } class QHoldUserData : public QAtResult::UserData ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
wpa_supplicant -u ?
I'm having trouble getting wifi to work: I have created a wpa_supplicant.conf file (copied from some other machine), and have added wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf to /etc/network/interfaces. Then `ifup eth0' sometimes works, but usually only right after boot. The problem seems to be different from the wifi only works once problem described in the wiki, because the symptom is only that wpa_supplicant fails to associate (it keeps trying to associate, but to no avail). The one odd thing I notice, is that I always get 2 wpa processes running: one wpa_supplicant -u and one with the usual list of arguments specifying the interface, conf file, etc... What's this wpa_supplicant -u doing here and who starts it? Also, it seems that the om2008.9's Wifi GUI (in the Settings section) doesn't use ifup/ifdown (e.g. it starts up a wpa_supplicant -u only). That's too bad. Is there some way to get them to cooperate better? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wpa_supplicant -u ?
El día Monday, October 13, 2008 a las 09:22:28AM -0400, Stefan Monnier escribió: I'm having trouble getting wifi to work: I have created a wpa_supplicant.conf file (copied from some other machine), and have added wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf to /etc/network/interfaces. Then `ifup eth0' sometimes works, but usually only right after boot. The problem seems to be different from the wifi only works once problem described in the wiki, because the symptom is only that wpa_supplicant fails to associate (it keeps trying to associate, but to no avail). The one odd thing I notice, is that I always get 2 wpa processes running: one wpa_supplicant -u and one with the usual list of arguments specifying the interface, conf file, etc... What's this wpa_supplicant -u doing here and who starts it? -u = enable DBus control interface see 'wpa_supplicant -h'; Also, it seems that the om2008.9's Wifi GUI (in the Settings section) doesn't use ifup/ifdown (e.g. it starts up a wpa_supplicant -u only). That's too bad. Is there some way to get them to cooperate better? Try my 'procedure' in http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt and see if this helps you too; my Wifi comes up in 99 of 100 cases; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
El Venres, 10 de Outubro de 2008, Michael Shiloh escribió: I will look at it, and post the results. Anxiously awaiting your measurements. If there is no 4.7K resistor, I'd move this discussion to the kernel list. We should not be charging at 1A if we do not see this resistor. ID pin and GND ping are not connected on this charger. I have tried up to 200Mohm, the maximum measured by my multimeter. My model is exactly the same one as specified on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#TomTom_car_charger Could I make some software test? -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] How can I simulate right click ?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, has someone found a way to simulate right click on Debian using stylus or finger ? Check this thread : http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1320442 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] How can I simulate right click ?
Hi folks, has someone found a way to simulate right click on Debian using stylus or finger ? Because some software relies upon the presence of a second button, and it would be great to have the possibility to use them. I would have like a 'long pressure == right click', but (with Xfce) I can see the mouse cursor moving while I put this long pressure on the screen. The touchscreen probably does not have 480x640 points of pressure, so maybe long pressure is not a solution here. Moreover double-clicking is difficult, because mouse cursor moves between the 2 clicks (for same reason)... I am interested in any method to improve this 'touch screen - mouse cursor' behavior. Thanks in advance for your advices, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Dan Jensen a écrit : Surely a program which grabs the information from your well-designed file system schema would work for you here? The trick is, doing it in this manner (that is, with tags) makes sure you have processing power left over when browsing the music, as all the tags are cached in a high-performance database. It also gives you the advantage of being able to find tracks directly by artist or by album or by... you get the idea, i'm sure :) While your filesystem is optimal for a single path through the music, the method used in the qt mediaplayer makes sure that the information is accessible through a number of different paths. So... give tags a shot before you discard their usefulness ;) qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer seems totally usable with fingers, and that's the big motivation for me to use it. On a related topic, the media player designed by the Qt people is rather simplistic, and while it works quite well, the Amarok team is working on a new player based on the technologies in Amarok 2 - what that means is that you'll be able to do all sorts of interesting things... This is again all tags based stuff, so may well not be what you want, but as general information for other people ;) ..leinir I just want a single view named Folders (which would be a file explorer) instead of the existing Albums, Artists, Genre. I totally understand that a tag-based player could be interesting for some people, but I *know* where my files are in my collection. If I want to listen to Metallica's last album on my laptop (with Sonata/MPD), I just go into metal/Metallica/ and I add 'Death Magnetic' folder to my playlist. I don't need to search Genre:Thrash or Genre:Metal, nor Artist:Metallica because I know where this folder is. In fact, yes it is optimal for a single path to the music, and that's what I want. The tag-based approach is a good way to dig into a collection you are discovering. Maybe it's shared by a friend, maybe you don't know what you have on your disk... whatever, I know which CD I ripped and where I stored it on my disk, and collection size is not a limit of this non tag-based approach you can trust me ;) To make a debian analogy, I use debtags to find a package providing a functionality I want, but I do not use the tags when I *know* package's name. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
2008/10/13 Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. audio quality is bad (whereas it is good with Debian+Sonata/Mpd, so definitively not a hardware problem here) : is there a way to tune some parameters ? 2. external speakers still work after headphones being plugged : is there an alsa subtlety here ? (it switches automatically with Debian) 3. software relies upon tags, which I do not use at all. I have a precise filesystem scheme and no need of tag-based players trying to sort my music. Is there a way of telling the thing to stop trying to be smart ? I need a dumb soft here ;) how did you get it to recognise tags? i imported some songs, all with id3 tags. none of the tags were recognised, the songs are all listed by filename, with 'unknown artist' and 'unknown album' any ideas? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Auxlaunch
very nice i'll try it! On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:20 AM, Al Iasid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanted a simple, very finger-friendly app launcher for my Freerunner running Debian. I also wanted to access it using the Aux button. So, I mixed code from the PyGTK hello world example with code from matchbox-keyboard-toggle and came up with Auxlaunch. A screenshot and download link is at aliasid.googlepages.com/auxlaunch if you're interested. At first, it minimizes and waits for the Aux button to be pressed. Then, it pops up full screen and shows 3 large buttons. You use the up and down buttons to change the top button. Press the top button and the selected app starts. You can configure the choices by editing the .auxlaunchrc text file. I added an item for Suspend (apm -s), too. Anyway, thought I'd share. Comments and questions are welcome. My apologies if this is the wrong way to announce. Thanks to Openmoko for the Freerunner and thanks to the Debian folks for, well, Debian, - Aliasid ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] matchbox-keyboard font
i just hope that very soon will be possible to use something like the illume keybord... this matchbox-kb is pretty unusable... but works ;-) d On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin, does someone know how to change the font matchbox-keyboard is using with debian? for me the keyboard sometimes is hard to read with distance FR - eye greater 50cm regards, morlac - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFI8zhIr81gVylJyzERAii4AKCS1K58WfvwjBK2EKM5dN69q41f2gCePAMB dSKKJT5xg7RGw1EaPHBS68c= =HESs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Kernel modules from mwester
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nishit Dave wrote: Hi, I am using the current kernel for qtexended on FR available from mwester. I also downloaded the minimal kernel module set from http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels. The version of the module set and the kernel seems to be matching, but after extracting the modules on my system, I now have two directories under /lib/modules (as I had expected): 2.6.24 (the original kernel) and 2.6.24mw-g291a9d50 (the minimal module set). A given kernel is going to look for its modules down only one path. We have been using these build-specific paths in the git build system for some time, they eliminate the problem that incorrect modules get loaded into kernel space when you change the main kernel binary. I dunno what our packaging side is doing about modules because it's not discussed anywhere that I read. Anyway it's good news mwester is using the same system, it just means that you only actually need the dir that matches the build stamp of the monolithic kernel you are using; any other dirs left lying around don't make any trouble except waste space if you will never revert to the kernel that matches them. Update: After deleting the 2.6.24mw-g291a9d50 branch from under /lib/modules and rebooting, I found that the original kernel looks for modules under it (the deleted branch). So it is useful, after all. I don't know what additional utility it provides, though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Nishit == Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Back up the 89qtopia before updating wholesale, and replace it when the keyboards fail. Less pain, more gain. I have no idea what you're talking about. What wholesale update are you referring to? What failure of keyboards? What do you gain? Could you expand a little for me poor novice here? What I meant was that after you install illume-config-illume and set up the new keyboards [1], you should back up your 89qtopia file from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ When you go for opkg update upgrade, and if that upgrades illume for you, it could result into your new keyboards disappearing. Doing things mentioned here [2] to install a good utility for gprs etc. and then updating the system may also undo some modifications, so backing up 89qtopia after [2] is a good idea. You can have the qpe process disappear, and the dialers, messaging etc. fail after updates. It will help you rescue the setup when you restore it. You will gain more insights with actual experience. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging
Christian Anke wrote: Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for navit: * gtk+ (= 2.12.11) * libcairo2 (= 1.6.4) * libglib-2.0-0 (= 2.16.4) * libfreetype6 (= 2.3.6) * libdbus-1-3 (= 1.2.1) * a opkg list_installed | egrep gtk\+|libcairo2|libglib|libfreetype6|libdbus say: gtk+-fastscaling - 2.10.14-r2 - libcairo2 - 1.4.10-r0 - libdbus-1-3 - 1.1.20-r2 - libdbus-glib-1-2 - 0.74-r0 - libfreetype6 - 2.3.5-r2 - libglib-2.0-0 - 2.16.1-r4 - i installed with -nodeps (hopefully, it will work as it should). But, how can i solve these deps? Carci I have same problems this time on a fresh Om2008.9. All of the broken dep libraries (also after opkg update/upgrade) are older (gtk, cairo etc.) What should be the solution for navit to work on our FRs [Om2008.9]? Thanks, -- sledge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Navit-patch-for-faster-map-dragging-tp729123p1328920.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Example of community manager job role Was: Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
On 12 Oct 2008, at 20:55, Rod Whitby wrote: If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact Michael directly and: 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and commit this patch himself directly to the OM repo. This may include teaching about how it all works. Is it possible to give Michael commit privs for only this package, though? One surely wouldn't want to give them to a community member on the basis of a single GUI app and later find he has b0rked the whole kernel tree. I know that my own favourite distro (Gentoo) has some kind of formal scheme to test the qualities of potential developers and introduce them to full developership. Such a set of formalities may bring its own disadvantages, however. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Snapshots? Yes, please!
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:57 PM, MartinG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes: Setup, Internet, Options, New, GPRS, Account name, APN. I need to investigate more myself. I rather meant asking how you managed to enter the APN, because on my phone, that option is unclickable / disabled and does not respond to the stylus. I can't even Tab to it with the keyboard, as the keyboard forcibly disappears when you tab across from account name to connection type. Do you specify it in any of the configuration files in /etc/ppp or etc/ppp/peers? I haven't touched any files in /etc/ at all -- for me the APN input field was just working. But I haven't managed to get online yet, as it seems the pppd stuff isn't fully configured. I'll let you know if I make any progress. -MartinG PS. What I said in an earlier post about the web browser not having a Go button was just wrong - indeed it has got one. Sorry about that! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know if this can happen with our adapter... but this is not the kind of tests you are willing to do yourself :-p ! Especially not with your tongue sticking out! It was not a case of the US prongs showing (I am in .eu, indeed... .nl even!) Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
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Re: wpa_supplicant -u ?
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, October 13, 2008 a las 09:22:28AM -0400, Stefan Monnier escribió: I'm having trouble getting wifi to work: I have created a wpa_supplicant.conf file (copied from some other machine), and have added wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf to /etc/network/interfaces. Then `ifup eth0' sometimes works, but usually only right after boot. The problem seems to be different from the wifi only works once problem described in the wiki, because the symptom is only that wpa_supplicant fails to associate (it keeps trying to associate, but to no avail). The one odd thing I notice, is that I always get 2 wpa processes running: one wpa_supplicant -u and one with the usual list of arguments specifying the interface, conf file, etc... What's this wpa_supplicant -u doing here and who starts it? -u = enable DBus control interface see 'wpa_supplicant -h'; To answer the other part of the question, I think this is started by connman which is used by the settings GUI to control the network interfaces. Connman aims to be a lightweight version of NetworkManager but is currently rather incomplete. Also, it seems that the om2008.9's Wifi GUI (in the Settings section) doesn't use ifup/ifdown (e.g. it starts up a wpa_supplicant -u only). That's too bad. Is there some way to get them to cooperate better? Try my 'procedure' in http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt and see if this helps you too; my Wifi comes up in 99 of 100 cases; An interesting combination of methods to kill the competing instances of things from connman, sort the routing issue if usb0 is up, and convince the wifi driver/firmware to behave itself. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
Hi,
I rebooted and it was ok! nicely working. I guess (from some outputs of
ompenomoko-panel-plugin) that was something related with dbus.
Nice work michele! just one thing: do you noticed that when zhone is
running, sephora and zhone confict controlling led luminosity? ...they
both use dbus, no? Is it possible to stop zhone led management when running
sephora? and implementing blank screen on sephora like in zhone?
ciao
d
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Hello,
I checked the deb there is in lauchpad, and I saw it is all ok,
I don't know how it happen in you FR :(
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i get this error :
debian-gta02:~# sephora
File /usr/bin/sephora, line 1133
def getGprsListClasses(self)9
gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self)9^K gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
i presume 9^k is the error here and should be replace with : and a new
line.
( yeah that fixed it.)
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self):
line 1134 : gprs = self.setInterface('gprs_net')
line 1135 : return gprs.ListAvailableGprsClasses()
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Re: Example of community manager job role Was: Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Stroller wrote: On 12 Oct 2008, at 20:55, Rod Whitby wrote: If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact Michael directly and: 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and commit this patch himself directly to the OM repo. This may include teaching about how it all works. Is it possible to give Michael commit privs for only this package, though? One surely wouldn't want to give them to a community member on the basis of a single GUI app and later find he has b0rked the whole kernel tree. In four years of running a project with a very low commit barrier, I've never had a single problem. And configuration management systems are designed to be able to remove an errant version, so even in the remote case that it does happen it's trivial to detect (since lots of people watch each and every commit) and fix. If you give people guidance on what they should and should not modify, then you will find that they follow those guidelines. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.9] Compiling GDAL
Hello. I'm trying to compile GDAL [1] library as a prerequisity for GRASS GIS package using OpenMoko toolchain [2] but I'm getting following error message of missing some autoconf macros. NOTE: Executing autoreconf --verbose --install --force -I /root/test/gdal/gdal/m4/ -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal-1.10 -I /usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal autoreconf-2.63: Entering directory `.' autoreconf-2.63: configure.in: not using Gettext autoreconf-2.63: running: aclocal --force configure.in:2272: warning: macro `AM_INIT_PYEXEC_MOD' not found in library configure.in:2273: warning: macro `AM_CHECK_NUMPY' not found in library autoreconf-2.63: configure.in: tracing autoreconf-2.63: running: libtoolize --copy --force Using `AC_PROG_RANLIB' is rendered obsolete by `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal. configure.in:2272: warning: macro `AM_INIT_PYEXEC_MOD' not found in library configure.in:2273: warning: macro `AM_CHECK_NUMPY' not found in library autoreconf-2.63: running: /usr/bin/autoconf-2.63 --include=/root/test/gdal/gdal/m4/ --include=/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal-1.10 --include=/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal --force --warnings=cross configure.in:62: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_COMPILER_PIC If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. configure.in:63: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LD_SHARED configure.in:91: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_HAVE_LONG_LONG configure.in:92: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_UNIX_STDIO_64 configure.in:139: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CHECK_FUNC_CUSTOM configure.in:2272: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_PYEXEC_MOD configure.in:2273: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CHECK_NUMPY configure.in:2274: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_COMPILER_LOCALHACK autoreconf-2.63: /usr/bin/autoconf-2.63 failed with exit status: 1 FATAL: autoreconf execution failed. They were defined in files included in aclocal.m4 file but om-conf deletes it by calling autoreconf. Have anyone any idea how to override this? [1] - http://www.gdal.org/ [2] - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain -- Ing. Radek Bartoň Faculty of Information Technology Department of Computer Graphics and Multimedia Brno University of Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://blackhex.no-ip.org Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
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Hi Davide,
Is possible the go in conflict, but I think is not a really conflict. It
is that both the application try to manage the brightness. Zhone try to
keep down when not is use, while sephora let you to decide the level.
In every case sephora is not complete, because when the phone restart,
you loose your setting.
The best thing, I don't know if it exist, would be to have a setting
deamon, where we can put our settings (for example the luminosity level
when up) and then zhone to use it when he want the screen on, and when
the luminosity level is changed, sephora will save the chages here too.
(And you will get it again after a restart)
I don't know if I was able to explain myself.
Davide Scaini wrote:
Hi,
I rebooted and it was ok! nicely working. I guess (from some outputs of
ompenomoko-panel-plugin) that was something related with dbus.
Nice work michele! just one thing: do you noticed that when zhone is
running, sephora and zhone confict controlling led luminosity? ...they
both use dbus, no? Is it possible to stop zhone led management when
running sephora? and implementing blank screen on sephora like in zhone?
ciao
d
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I checked the deb there is in lauchpad, and I saw it is all ok,
I don't know how it happen in you FR :(
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i get this error :
debian-gta02:~# sephora
File /usr/bin/sephora, line 1133
def getGprsListClasses(self)9
gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self)9^K gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
i presume 9^k is the error here and should be replace with : and a
new line.
( yeah that fixed it.)
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self):
line 1134 : gprs = self.setInterface('gprs_net')
line 1135 : return gprs.ListAvailableGprsClasses()
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RE: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Convert the audio files before you copy them to the FR. The bad quality is caused of that pulseaudio and the openmoko-mediaplayer uses near to 100% cpu time. I converted some mp3 to mono 64kbps, they sound good.And cpu usage is around 60%. Here a little script: #!/bin/bash # execute it in a folder where the tracks are. First argument is to make files different to others. (May ID3-Tags are deleted. I used TagTool to create new Tags [from Filename].) for fff in *.mp3; do echo $fff lame $fff -b 64 -m m -o -S /home/username/$1 - $fff done http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Guide#openmoko-mediaplayer2 Shows how to make openmoko-mediaplayer2 finger usable. To: community@lists.openmoko.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:45:01 +0200 Subject: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player Hi folks, yesterday I tried to use qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer and some ogg/mp3 files to transform the FR into a digital audio player. I have encountered 3 software problems : 1. audio quality is bad (whereas it is good with Debian+Sonata/Mpd, so definitively not a hardware problem here) : is there a way to tune some parameters ? 2. external speakers still work after headphones being plugged : is there an alsa subtlety here ? (it switches automatically with Debian) 3. software relies upon tags, which I do not use at all. I have a precise filesystem scheme and no need of tag-based players trying to sort my music. Is there a way of telling the thing to stop trying to be smart ? I need a dumb soft here ;) qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer seems totally usable with fingers, and that's the big motivation for me to use it. Thanks in advance, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Die neue Generation der Windows Live Services - jetzt downloaden! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Sam Kuper wrote: 2008/10/13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was *very* disapointed when I discovered the audio quality via headphones:in IRC they told me that it was because the capacitor(that is between headphone out and the sound card)'s value was too low and acted as a filter... As I am too afraid of breaking the openmoko i won't change the capacitor myself...but what could I do? build/buy an external amplifier(will it work fine?) or find a place where they could remplace me the capacitor? I wasn't aware of this problem, but if what you are saying is that the headphone out socket of the phone has a capacitor connected across it that is attenuating the high frequencies, then an external amplifier connected to that socket will not be able to restore those frequencies. The cap is 1uF in series - see the schematics at http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/GTA02/ and check the archives for a thorough analysis by Joerg: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-March/001996.html An external amp will provide a high impedence load, so things will be better, but unless there was an unannounced change in the componenet values for the later boards you will be stuck with bass rolling off below 160Hz. On the hardware list you can find discussion of the modification options. A well-designed amplifier that takes a digital audio feed from the USB socket - a USB soundcard, essentially, would work in principle, but in practice may be expensive/time-consuming to implement. There are any number of usb headsets out there. Many would be trivial to modify for use with other headphones. If you're serious about your audio there's always the HeadRoom BitHead. My advice would be to try listening to music on your phone. If it sounds fine, don't worry about it further. If it isn't fine, try using a distro that is known to have good sound capabilities (someone else mentioned that Debian gives high playback quality). Only if this fails to give you adequate quality might it be worth investigating hardware replacements/augmentation. Regards, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- SolutionTrax Limited, Registered in England Wales, Trading as TrueBox Registered office: Silbury Court, 420 Silbury Boulevard, Milton Keynes, MK9 2AF, UK Company Number: 4494022 VAT Registration Number: 825 1952 26 Telephone: +44 (0)845 508 3397 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
yes... i wrote confilct... ;-) my idea was just to stop sephora
controlling leds, maybe blocking selectively its calls to dbus, but i'm not
that in with this things to implement a solution...
thanks for your always in time answer!
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
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Hi Davide,
Is possible the go in conflict, but I think is not a really conflict. It
is that both the application try to manage the brightness. Zhone try to
keep down when not is use, while sephora let you to decide the level.
In every case sephora is not complete, because when the phone restart,
you loose your setting.
The best thing, I don't know if it exist, would be to have a setting
deamon, where we can put our settings (for example the luminosity level
when up) and then zhone to use it when he want the screen on, and when
the luminosity level is changed, sephora will save the chages here too.
(And you will get it again after a restart)
I don't know if I was able to explain myself.
Davide Scaini wrote:
Hi,
I rebooted and it was ok! nicely working. I guess (from some outputs of
ompenomoko-panel-plugin) that was something related with dbus.
Nice work michele! just one thing: do you noticed that when zhone is
running, sephora and zhone confict controlling led luminosity? ...they
both use dbus, no? Is it possible to stop zhone led management when
running sephora? and implementing blank screen on sephora like in zhone?
ciao
d
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Hello,
I checked the deb there is in lauchpad, and I saw it is all ok,
I don't know how it happen in you FR :(
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i get this error :
debian-gta02:~# sephora
File /usr/bin/sephora, line 1133
def getGprsListClasses(self)9
gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self)9^K gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
i presume 9^k is the error here and should be replace with : and a
new line.
( yeah that fixed it.)
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self):
line 1134 : gprs = self.setInterface('gprs_net')
line 1135 : return gprs.ListAvailableGprsClasses()
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Re: [OM2008.9][GTA02] a simple and quick GPS logger
I noticed the webmail interface screwed up the line breaks, so this time the scripts are attached. Here comes version 2. Changes: - Configured the u-blox chip to send only relevant messages; - Configured the u-blox chip to send 4 measurements per second instead of just one; - Don't try to power on or reconfigure the chip if it is already on; - Filter invalid messages (without a fix) out of the log files. To know how to generate the *.ubx files I use here, visit the wiki [1]. [1]: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Configuration_for_a_higher_sampling_rate Enjoy. GpsLogOn.desktop Description: application/desktop GpsLogOff.desktop Description: application/desktop om_suspend_functions.sh Description: Bourne shell script log_gps_track.sh Description: Bourne shell script CFG-MSG-GPGLL-OFF.ubx Description: Binary data CFG-MSG-GPGSA-OFF.ubx Description: Binary data CFG-MSG-GPGSV-OFF.ubx Description: Binary data CFG-MSG-GPVTG-OFF.ubx Description: Binary data CFG-MSG-GPZDA-OFF.ubx Description: Binary data CFG-RATE-2HZ.ubx Description: Binary data CFG-RATE-4HZ.ubx Description: Binary data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Re: Example of community manager job role Was: Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:30:22 +1030 Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Stroller wrote: On 12 Oct 2008, at 20:55, Rod Whitby wrote: If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact Michael directly and: 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and commit this patch himself directly to the OM repo. This may include teaching about how it all works. Is it possible to give Michael commit privs for only this package, though? One surely wouldn't want to give them to a community member on the basis of a single GUI app and later find he has b0rked the whole kernel tree. In four years of running a project with a very low commit barrier, I've never had a single problem. And configuration management systems are designed to be able to remove an errant version, so even in the remote case that it does happen it's trivial to detect (since lots of people watch each and every commit) and fix. If you give people guidance on what they should and should not modify, then you will find that they follow those guidelines. agreed. in a decade of doing enlightenment - and about a decade of shared revision control systems (CVS and recently SVN) i have taken a liberal approach to allowing write access and have yet to be disappointed by it. lower the barriers and trust people to do the right thing after a quick dont break stuff or we will hunt you down and cut out your eyes and feed them to our turtles talking. it lets you spread the work and let other people pick up pieces when you don't have time. anyone who reads the cvs/svn commits lists (and ALL developers with commit access should), you spot activity on a project and you see the diff - if something strikes you as that's wrong its a single commandline away to revert it. normally you first have a chat to the committer to see whats up. i agree with rod. a long period of experience has shown to me that being liberal is good here. don't hand out write access to anyone - but those who have sent a few patches and seem to have a clue - get it without further barriers. they are now in the fold of core developers who have direct access. all activity is monitored and logged and is revertable. not to mention the psychological inclusiveness that this shows to people. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
2008/10/13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was *very* disapointed when I discovered the audio quality via headphones:in IRC they told me that it was because the capacitor(that is between headphone out and the sound card)'s value was too low and acted as a filter... As I am too afraid of breaking the openmoko i won't change the capacitor myself...but what could I do? build/buy an external amplifier(will it work fine?) or find a place where they could remplace me the capacitor? I wasn't aware of this problem, but if what you are saying is that the headphone out socket of the phone has a capacitor connected across it that is attenuating the high frequencies, then an external amplifier connected to that socket will not be able to restore those frequencies. A well-designed amplifier that takes a digital audio feed from the USB socket - a USB soundcard, essentially, would work in principle, but in practice may be expensive/time-consuming to implement. My advice would be to try listening to music on your phone. If it sounds fine, don't worry about it further. If it isn't fine, try using a distro that is known to have good sound capabilities (someone else mentioned that Debian gives high playback quality). Only if this fails to give you adequate quality might it be worth investigating hardware replacements/augmentation. Regards, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] FSO install question.
Paul wrote: Hello people, I would like to put FSO on the SDcard, to look at it and try it. Can someone recommend the proper root/image-files to use for this? There are quite a lot on the FSO-download page... Take the latest rootfs.tar.gz for your phone and extract it onto a partition on the SD. This includes a kernel, so if you have updated uBoot you can load this direct from the SD. For details see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Matthias Camenzind a écrit : Convert the audio files before you copy them to the FR. The bad quality is caused of that pulseaudio and the openmoko-mediaplayer uses near to 100% cpu time. I converted some mp3 to mono 64kbps, they sound good.And cpu usage is around 60%. Here a little script: Mmmm that's strange because everything sounds good under Debian. But thanks for the hint, I will check my cpu usage. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Guide#openmoko-mediaplayer2 Shows how to make openmoko-mediaplayer2 finger usable. Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 00:42 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:29:53 +0100, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joel Newkirk wrote: Qi boots like a dream - no kernel messages scrolling by, just turns on backlight on a black screen for about 5 seconds (heartstopper of sorts the first time) then the graphical boot progress screen appears. I'd guesstimate that overall boot time was improved perhaps 15%. Great. NOTE for other 'daredevils': Qi does NOT provide a boot menu. (at least not that I could find, not at this point) The usual NOR uBoot menu you use Right Qi's concept is it leaves everything possible to Linux, that includes even the video init. You can use NOR U-Boot on Freerunner to do DFU or other U-Boot specific stuff. Qi has a list of bootable devices and currently will try uSD partition 1 for /boot/uImage.bin, if that is not working out then it will try the NAND kernel partition. Currently 2.6.27 doesn't do mtd properly and blows chunks with these CRC errors, didn't find why yet. But it does work with uSD boot on ext3 OK. The red LED thing is what we do on kernel panic... it's panicking because it can't mount the jffs2 part because of the CRC errors, then it has no rootfs. Thanks a lot for trying it and reporting it, you'll get further with uSD boot right now. I finally realized that you meant boot from uSD-based system, rather than just pull the kernel from uSD - I tried 2.6.27 and 2008.8-update uImage in /media/card/boot and just got blinking red kernel panic LED. Now I've successfully booted from uSD with Base Image and 2.6.27. Linux om-gta02 2.6.27-andy-tracking_2ffb4cc483642df1-mokodev #12 PREEMPT Sat Oct 11 13:06:05 BST 2008 armv4tl unknown. (although every other attempt or so it seems to hang at a blank console with a blinking cursor, not really mapped that behavior out yet) Which one way or another goes to highlight that Qi - as it stands now and from what I understand of the intention for it - will not be usable for a dual-boot setup. Not a problem actually, as NOR uBoot will let us achieve that, and I realize that the common target case will be a user who wants a smartphone, not a multiboot development platform. I just realized that the default behavior of Qi being uSD and the default behavior of uBoot being NAND means you could place 'primary' on uSD and 'secondary' in NAND, and booting to secondary is just two-step - NOR boot with aux+power, then power again to boot. Don't you love that feeling when things start to click? :) Now I have Base/Empty firing up by default, Raster+FSO if I use aux to invoke NOR Uboot. j I'm not a kernel hacker only a user, but as I undertand It would be better to invert that behaviour, better to primary boot from NAND and then secondary boot on uSD, a normal user must boot his phone even without any uSD. Normal boot to nand, and if you want to boot from anything else do something else. It's a pitty than NOR uboot doesn't allow to boot from uSD by default, but this fault does't have to change the logical behaviour NAND is attached to the phone and is less likely blow up the hole S.O. sa mistake by a normal user putting some music in his uSD card trough a 2.0 Card reader :) seekeng for some free space ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] process 'events/0' consuming a lot of CPU loops
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Re: [FSO] GPRS
lör 2008-10-11 klockan 19:06 -0400 skrev Joel Newkirk: I successfully followed the process outlined at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO and got GPRS working through T-Mobile. (internet3.voicestream.com) (this is on Raster+FSO) But there's a few things...[snip] I understood from previous discussions on the mailinglist that this is the nature of the beast, that we won't get GPRS working DURING a GSM call - at least not with this GSM hardware. Is that correct or not? (I'd dearly love to be able to push a few packets when an incoming call starts ringing through - callerid name lookups) The muxer lets us keep both connections configured, but GSM voice trumps GPRS data in an XOR. Sounds like this won't be resolved ever for phones with this GSM chipset (Calypso in my case)? That really sucks and really breaks one of my intended use cases (not that anyone *should* care, really). Using the OpenMoko thing as a conference phone _and_ internet gateway at the same time hence is not possible? (Unless you do VOIP for phone conferencing.) / Fredrik signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
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Just in time, I am releasing alpha 3, that contains the German
translation (thank to Hubert Haas) and some little improvement (only a
few, realy, only the possibility to set a proxy for FTP, HTTPS, HTTP)
So, if it create problem to you, I can add add a flag on setting panel,
that disable the luminosity control, so it will solve you problem (PS.
if someone else have this problem, please report to me, so I can
undestand if I have to remove completly the function, or I have to fix
it in another way).
Thank you for your report!
Michele
Davide Scaini wrote:
yes... i wrote confilct... ;-) my idea was just to stop sephora
controlling leds, maybe blocking selectively its calls to dbus, but i'm
not that in with this things to implement a solution...
thanks for your always in time answer!
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Davide,
Is possible the go in conflict, but I think is not a really conflict. It
is that both the application try to manage the brightness. Zhone try to
keep down when not is use, while sephora let you to decide the level.
In every case sephora is not complete, because when the phone restart,
you loose your setting.
The best thing, I don't know if it exist, would be to have a setting
deamon, where we can put our settings (for example the luminosity level
when up) and then zhone to use it when he want the screen on, and when
the luminosity level is changed, sephora will save the chages here too.
(And you will get it again after a restart)
I don't know if I was able to explain myself.
Davide Scaini wrote:
Hi,
I rebooted and it was ok! nicely working. I guess (from some
outputs of
ompenomoko-panel-plugin) that was something related with dbus.
Nice work michele! just one thing: do you noticed that when zhone is
running, sephora and zhone confict controlling led luminosity?
...they
both use dbus, no? Is it possible to stop zhone led management when
running sephora? and implementing blank screen on sephora like in
zhone?
ciao
d
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Hello,
I checked the deb there is in lauchpad, and I saw it is all ok,
I don't know how it happen in you FR :(
azmodie wrote:
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i get this error :
debian-gta02:~# sephora
File /usr/bin/sephora, line 1133
def getGprsListClasses(self)9
gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self)9^K gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
i presume 9^k is the error here and should be replace with :
and a
new line.
( yeah that fixed it.)
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self):
line 1134 : gprs = self.setInterface('gprs_net')
line 1135 : return gprs.ListAvailableGprsClasses()
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Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Stroller wrote: On 13 Oct 2008, at 08:13, Rod Whitby wrote: ... The state of affairs *should* be that you just get the application name from opkg.org, and then type opkg install name on whatever distribution you are running (or select the application name from the GUI installer application on the device) and it installs flawlessly from the official feeds for that distribution. That requires exiting the web-browser using the CLI. Aren't people asking for immediate installation through the GUI of the browser? OK, add ... or click on the link to run the normal GUI application installer which already points to the official repositories to the above. The point is not how convenient it is, since you can easily fix that in one place. The point is how disparate and fragmented the community resources become if you don't continuously fight against entropy. Diversity driven by well-informed intention is good. Fragmentation caused by barriers or simply entropy is not. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:48:50 +0200, David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 00:42 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: Which one way or another goes to highlight that Qi - as it stands now and from what I understand of the intention for it - will not be usable for a dual-boot setup. Not a problem actually, as NOR uBoot will let us achieve that, and I realize that the common target case will be a user who wants a smartphone, not a multiboot development platform. I just realized that the default behavior of Qi being uSD and the default behavior of uBoot being NAND means you could place 'primary' on uSD and 'secondary' in NAND, and booting to secondary is just two-step - NOR boot with aux+power, then power again to boot. Don't you love that feeling when things start to click? :) Now I have Base/Empty firing up by default, Raster+FSO if I use aux to invoke NOR Uboot. j I'm not a kernel hacker only a user, but as I undertand It would be better to invert that behaviour, better to primary boot from NAND and then secondary boot on uSD, a normal user must boot his phone even without any uSD. Normal boot to nand, and if you want to boot from anything else do something else. It's a pitty than NOR uboot doesn't allow to boot from uSD by default, but this fault does't have to change the logical behaviour NAND is attached to the phone and is less likely blow up the hole S.O. sa mistake by a normal user putting some music in his uSD card trough a 2.0 Card reader :) seekeng for some free space If there's NO uSD, or the uSD doesn't contain a folder named 'boot' on the first partition, with a file named 'uImage.bin', then Qi will boot from NAND. It's just if you WANT a dual-boot environment that currently Qi doesn't let you do that simply. As Andy noted in his response to that post, however, he plans for Qi to support user selection of boot, it just doesn't do it at this time. Until it offers the ability to select, then the present behavior (check for kernel on uSD, else use NAND) makes more sense that always going to NAND and only NAND. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:45:01AM +0200, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Hi folks, yesterday I tried to use qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer and some ogg/mp3 files to transform the FR into a digital audio player. I have encountered 3 software problems : 1. audio quality is bad (whereas it is good with Debian+Sonata/Mpd, so definitively not a hardware problem here) : is there a way to tune some parameters ? 2. external speakers still work after headphones being plugged : is there an alsa subtlety here ? (it switches automatically with Debian) 3. software relies upon tags, which I do not use at all. I have a precise filesystem scheme and no need of tag-based players trying to sort my music. Is there a way of telling the thing to stop trying to be smart ? I need a dumb soft here ;) qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer seems totally usable with fingers, and that's the big motivation for me to use it. 4. battery life :) Rui 5.The Hardware problem of external speakers/headphones: I was *very* disapointed when I discovered the audio quality via headphones:in IRC they told me that it was because the capacitor(that is between headphone out and the sound card)'s value was too low and acted as a filter... As I am too afraid of breaking the openmoko i won't change the capacitor myself...but what could I do? build/buy an external amplifier(will it work fine?) or find a place where they could remplace me the capacitor? I wanted to remplace my old ogg player with the openmoko...because my old ogg player is(pma430): *not powerfull enough to decode all the internet radios(such as mms://) *has a lot of bugs(the port of mplayer is buggy on it,and the default audio player too) *can't be easely programmed to make a usefull(quick and dirty) player...because there is an old qtopia,python hasn't the gtk library,mplayer is buggy etc...so making a player is out of my capacity... So I Thought buying the openmoko that I could also use it as a ogg/radio player...but without headphones...I can't listen to it in the metro... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
Stefan Monnier wrote: How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an SSH-over-USB connection)? `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as painful as it gets). Clearly, we can do much better. Stefan in FSO, I edit with leafpad. It's possible to edit a text file directly from filemanager (gpe) Some help (in french) to get it work. http://sites.google.com/site/pythonopenmoko/leafpad-et-filemanager Yves MAHE ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Mmmm that's strange because everything sounds good under Debian. But thanks for the hint, I will check my cpu usage. You are right, after a bit of killing : - it sounds good with qtopia media player, and mediaserver eats 45% of CPU in top - it sounds good too with mplayer (frontend here http://www.opkg.org/package_1.html) and it eats only 30% of CPU Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] GPRS
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:53:33 +0200, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lör 2008-10-11 klockan 19:06 -0400 skrev Joel Newkirk: I successfully followed the process outlined at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO and got GPRS working through T-Mobile. (internet3.voicestream.com) (this is on Raster+FSO) But there's a few things...[snip] I understood from previous discussions on the mailinglist that this is the nature of the beast, that we won't get GPRS working DURING a GSM call - at least not with this GSM hardware. Is that correct or not? (I'd dearly love to be able to push a few packets when an incoming call starts ringing through - callerid name lookups) The muxer lets us keep both connections configured, but GSM voice trumps GPRS data in an XOR. Sounds like this won't be resolved ever for phones with this GSM chipset (Calypso in my case)? That really sucks and really breaks one of my intended use cases (not that anyone *should* care, really). Using the OpenMoko thing as a conference phone _and_ internet gateway at the same time hence is not possible? (Unless you do VOIP for phone conferencing.) / Fredrik On your first question, I couldn't say if the cause is something inherent in GSM+GPRS, a chipset limitation, something that could be addressed in its firmware, or simply gsm software support. Hopefully one of the latter two, right? :) As to the second, yes that's pretty much the situation. As I understand it, there are also limitations on simultaneous use of GSM and Wifi as well as Wifi and Bluetooth. (not inability, just limits) If you're sitting on a solid internet connection, IMHO VOIP would be better anyway. :) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] How can I simulate right click ?
ok... it was working but maybe i wasn't too determined to make it work... ;-) some problems with stilus moving... thanks! On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 try to put it on top of your .Xsession (and remember to apt-get install libgtkstylus) regards, morlac Am 13.10.2008 um 16:26 schrieb Davide Scaini: i tried with that export putted in my .bashrc but it does not work... d On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks ! - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFI82/Qr81gVylJyzERAucJAKDO/ZALrYY7YvEDbbcaU3/3RD88owCbBCvN T+NhnwX79UvqGxKhQdD7R+4= =JOS9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wpa_supplicant -u ?
El día Monday, October 13, 2008 a las 11:08:27AM -0400, Stefan Monnier escribió: What's this wpa_supplicant -u doing here and who starts it? -u = enable DBus control interface see 'wpa_supplicant -h'; Yes, that much I know. But the question remains: what is it doing here, and who starts it? If I would have known this, you would have got an answer from me :-) Also, it seems that the om2008.9's Wifi GUI (in the Settings section) doesn't use ifup/ifdown (e.g. it starts up a wpa_supplicant -u only). That's too bad. Is there some way to get them to cooperate better? Try my 'procedure' in http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt and see if this helps you too; my Wifi comes up in 99 of 100 cases; I'm not sure which part is important. But more importantly, it doesn't seem to be have much to do with the Wifi GUI that's in Om2008.9, right? It just provides another GUI. Of course for Wifi the chapter about Wifi is relevant; and no, this does not just provide another GUI, but a procedure which is working for me; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
...your function is really nice because zhone uses to leave the leds really
pimped... i prefere not to burn my eyes!
maybe we can ask something similar to your flag to zhone guys... but please
don't remove it! ;-)
d
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
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Just in time, I am releasing alpha 3, that contains the German
translation (thank to Hubert Haas) and some little improvement (only a
few, realy, only the possibility to set a proxy for FTP, HTTPS, HTTP)
So, if it create problem to you, I can add add a flag on setting panel,
that disable the luminosity control, so it will solve you problem (PS.
if someone else have this problem, please report to me, so I can
undestand if I have to remove completly the function, or I have to fix
it in another way).
Thank you for your report!
Michele
Davide Scaini wrote:
yes... i wrote confilct... ;-) my idea was just to stop sephora
controlling leds, maybe blocking selectively its calls to dbus, but i'm
not that in with this things to implement a solution...
thanks for your always in time answer!
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Davide,
Is possible the go in conflict, but I think is not a really conflict. It
is that both the application try to manage the brightness. Zhone try to
keep down when not is use, while sephora let you to decide the level.
In every case sephora is not complete, because when the phone restart,
you loose your setting.
The best thing, I don't know if it exist, would be to have a setting
deamon, where we can put our settings (for example the luminosity level
when up) and then zhone to use it when he want the screen on, and when
the luminosity level is changed, sephora will save the chages here too.
(And you will get it again after a restart)
I don't know if I was able to explain myself.
Davide Scaini wrote:
Hi,
I rebooted and it was ok! nicely working. I guess (from some
outputs of
ompenomoko-panel-plugin) that was something related with dbus.
Nice work michele! just one thing: do you noticed that when zhone is
running, sephora and zhone confict controlling led luminosity?
...they
both use dbus, no? Is it possible to stop zhone led management when
running sephora? and implementing blank screen on sephora like in
zhone?
ciao
d
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Hello,
I checked the deb there is in lauchpad, and I saw it is all ok,
I don't know how it happen in you FR :(
azmodie wrote:
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i get this error :
debian-gta02:~# sephora
File /usr/bin/sephora, line 1133
def getGprsListClasses(self)9
gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self)9^K gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
i presume 9^k is the error here and should be replace with :
and a
new line.
( yeah that fixed it.)
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self):
line 1134 : gprs = self.setInterface('gprs_net')
line 1135 : return gprs.ListAvailableGprsClasses()
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Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:32, Peter Fey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a shock when I unplugged the FR adapter because the Europlug-USplug-adapter didn't stay in place. The latch holding it in place was loose and my fingers touched the USplug while the Euro-End was still in the wall outlet. This is my explanation for getting a shock, even though I did not (want to) reproduce this. (also note the above posters names seem European) First poster wrote that It was fully out of the socket when I touched it! ... I am interested to know if this can happen with our adapter... but this is not the kind of tests you are willing to do yourself :-p ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Snapshots? Yes, please!
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:54 PM, MartinG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:57 PM, MartinG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes: Setup, Internet, Options, New, GPRS, Account name, APN. I need to investigate more myself. I rather meant asking how you managed to enter the APN, because on my phone, that option is unclickable / disabled and does not respond to the stylus. I can't even Tab to it with the keyboard, as the keyboard forcibly disappears when you tab across from account name to connection type. Do you specify it in any of the configuration files in /etc/ppp or etc/ppp/peers? I haven't touched any files in /etc/ at all -- for me the APN input field was just working. But I haven't managed to get online yet, as it seems the pppd stuff isn't fully configured. I'll let you know if I make any progress. -MartinG PS. What I said in an earlier post about the web browser not having a Go button was just wrong - indeed it has got one. Sorry about that! I finally was able to enter the APN. Hadn't chanced on the 'magic' tap location earlier. However, still no cigar. I don't know if the phone can connect in the first place. I also want to know which number is being dialed, but there seems to be no clue ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:45:01AM +0200, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Hi folks, yesterday I tried to use qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer and some ogg/mp3 files to transform the FR into a digital audio player. I have encountered 3 software problems : 1. audio quality is bad (whereas it is good with Debian+Sonata/Mpd, so definitively not a hardware problem here) : is there a way to tune some parameters ? 2. external speakers still work after headphones being plugged : is there an alsa subtlety here ? (it switches automatically with Debian) 3. software relies upon tags, which I do not use at all. I have a precise filesystem scheme and no need of tag-based players trying to sort my music. Is there a way of telling the thing to stop trying to be smart ? I need a dumb soft here ;) qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer seems totally usable with fingers, and that's the big motivation for me to use it. 4. battery life :) Rui -- All Hail Discordia! Today is Sweetmorn, the 67th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
On 13 Oct 2008, at 08:13, Rod Whitby wrote: ... The state of affairs *should* be that you just get the application name from opkg.org, and then type opkg install name on whatever distribution you are running (or select the application name from the GUI installer application on the device) and it installs flawlessly from the official feeds for that distribution. That requires exiting the web-browser using the CLI. Aren't people asking for immediate installation through the GUI of the browser? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
El día Monday, October 13, 2008 a las 11:32:13AM +0200, Peter Fey escribió: 2008/10/9 Carsten Gerlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am Donnerstag 09. Oktober 2008 9:36:26 am schrieb Christ van Willegen: this morning, I pulled the FR adapter out of the (230 VAC) socket, and accidentally touched one of the prongs. I experienced a short shock. I can confirm that. I had the same feeling this morning, too. I got a shock when I unplugged the FR adapter because the Europlug-USplug-adapter didn't stay in place. The latch holding it in place was loose and my fingers touched the USplug while the Euro-End was still in the wall outlet. This is my explanation for getting a shock, even though I did not (want to) reproduce this. (also note the above posters names seem European) Some tape fixes this hardware bug. I don't know if we are talking about the same Europlug-USplug-adapter; I've checked mine and if the Europlug is connected to the wall outlet and you open the latch which holds together the charger (with US contacts) and pull downwards the charger, the UC contacts are coming out of the Europlug, but before you could touch them with the finger, theu're already away from the electrical parts of the Europlug... maybe with a blade of a knife you could reach the US contacts before going away from the electrical parts of the Europlug; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
El Luns, 13 de Outubro de 2008, Matthias Camenzind escribió: Convert the audio files before you copy them to the FR. The bad quality is caused of that pulseaudio and the openmoko-mediaplayer uses near to 100% cpu time. I converted some mp3 to mono 64kbps, they sound good.And cpu usage is around 60%. Here a little script: #!/bin/bash 400 MHz unable to decode 128 kbps mp3 on the fly??? My 486-66 did it with winamp! I think there might be some problem with latest qtopia's mediaplayer (or sound server). The same files I heard flawlessly on 4.3.3 snapshot, continuosly clicks on 4.4.1. Both in ogg and mp3. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Default OM settings, no lan messed up
OS = OS X 10.5.5 I received my OM this past week. Took some time to locate an ATT sim card that would work. Yesterday, I was able to follow the instructions at; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X ,and using the link; http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9 grabbing the rootfs of Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.rootfs.jffs2 to flash the phone. Once flashed, I noticed there was no console icon anymore I was able to SSH into the OM. Once I did that, I edited changed the /etc/network/interfaces file to reflect my lan. 192.168.1.*** Before I logged out, I catted the file to make sure that I had correctly set that file. It all looked correct I then logged out of the phone restarted the phone, thinking I now would be able to ssh, without jumping through hoops. No such luck. Now, the IP address is neither the default nor anything on the 192.168.1.*** network.. Any help in getting the phone functioning again, would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Rod Diversity driven by well-informed intention is good. Fragmentation caused by barriers or simply entropy is not. That captures my thoughts very well. Rod Whitby wrote: Stroller wrote: On 13 Oct 2008, at 08:13, Rod Whitby wrote: ... The state of affairs *should* be that you just get the application name from opkg.org, and then type opkg install name on whatever distribution you are running (or select the application name from the GUI installer application on the device) and it installs flawlessly from the official feeds for that distribution. That requires exiting the web-browser using the CLI. Aren't people asking for immediate installation through the GUI of the browser? OK, add ... or click on the link to run the normal GUI application installer which already points to the official repositories to the above. The point is not how convenient it is, since you can easily fix that in one place. The point is how disparate and fragmented the community resources become if you don't continuously fight against entropy. Diversity driven by well-informed intention is good. Fragmentation caused by barriers or simply entropy is not. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Example of community manager job role Was: Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Agreed raster. I'm headed to Taiwan this week to discuss this and other matters, So any ideas that Rod, you or other come up with need to get to me pretty soon. Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:30:22 +1030 Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Stroller wrote: On 12 Oct 2008, at 20:55, Rod Whitby wrote: If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact Michael directly and: 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and commit this patch himself directly to the OM repo. This may include teaching about how it all works. Is it possible to give Michael commit privs for only this package, though? One surely wouldn't want to give them to a community member on the basis of a single GUI app and later find he has b0rked the whole kernel tree. In four years of running a project with a very low commit barrier, I've never had a single problem. And configuration management systems are designed to be able to remove an errant version, so even in the remote case that it does happen it's trivial to detect (since lots of people watch each and every commit) and fix. If you give people guidance on what they should and should not modify, then you will find that they follow those guidelines. agreed. in a decade of doing enlightenment - and about a decade of shared revision control systems (CVS and recently SVN) i have taken a liberal approach to allowing write access and have yet to be disappointed by it. lower the barriers and trust people to do the right thing after a quick dont break stuff or we will hunt you down and cut out your eyes and feed them to our turtles talking. it lets you spread the work and let other people pick up pieces when you don't have time. anyone who reads the cvs/svn commits lists (and ALL developers with commit access should), you spot activity on a project and you see the diff - if something strikes you as that's wrong its a single commandline away to revert it. normally you first have a chat to the committer to see whats up. i agree with rod. a long period of experience has shown to me that being liberal is good here. don't hand out write access to anyone - but those who have sent a few patches and seem to have a clue - get it without further barriers. they are now in the fold of core developers who have direct access. all activity is monitored and logged and is revertable. not to mention the psychological inclusiveness that this shows to people. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Default OM settings, no lan messed up
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:10:28 -0700, Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS = OS X 10.5.5 I received my OM this past week. Took some time to locate an ATT sim card that would work. Yesterday, I was able to follow the instructions at; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X ,and using the link; http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9 grabbing the rootfs of Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.rootfs.jffs2 to flash the phone. Once flashed, I noticed there was no console icon anymore I was able to SSH into the OM. Once I did that, I edited changed the /etc/network/interfaces file to reflect my lan. 192.168.1.*** Before I logged out, I catted the file to make sure that I had correctly set that file. It all looked correct I then logged out of the phone restarted the phone, thinking I now would be able to ssh, without jumping through hoops. No such luck. Now, the IP address is neither the default nor anything on the 192.168.1.*** network.. Any help in getting the phone functioning again, would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks What is the full IP, gateway, and subnet mask you set on the FreeRunner, and on the USB network interface on your host? Does it overlap the subnet on any other interface on the host? j If you are able to set up a packet sniffer on USB network device on the host, try tapping 'installer' on the FR and see what IP the connection attempt comes from. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
I go on the site and the first thing i see is a popup that shows that the site was partly hacked with javascript comment entrys. It is not very good if the comment is interpreted as html code. :( The hack disables the left category menu. Only with help of firefox and noscript i can disable the hack locally and get the menu back. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
2008/10/13 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] I go on the site and the first thing i see is a popup that shows that the site was partly hacked with javascript comment entrys. It is not very good if the comment is interpreted as html code. :( The hack disables the left category menu. Only with help of firefox and noscript i can disable the hack locally and get the menu back. Ciao, Rainer It was me but I contacted the author of the site and he fixed the 2 bugs... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Default OM settings, no lan messed up
On Oct 13, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Joel Newkirk wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:10:28 -0700, Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS = OS X 10.5.5 I received my OM this past week. Took some time to locate an ATT sim card that would work. Yesterday, I was able to follow the instructions at; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X ,and using the link; http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9 grabbing the rootfs of Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.rootfs.jffs2 to flash the phone. Once flashed, I noticed there was no console icon anymore I was able to SSH into the OM. Once I did that, I edited changed the /etc/network/interfaces file to reflect my lan. 192.168.1.*** Before I logged out, I catted the file to make sure that I had correctly set that file. It all looked correct I then logged out of the phone restarted the phone, thinking I now would be able to ssh, without jumping through hoops. No such luck. Now, the IP address is neither the default nor anything on the 192.168.1.*** network.. Any help in getting the phone functioning again, would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks What is the full IP, gateway, and subnet mask you set on the FreeRunner, and on the USB network interface on your host? Does it overlap the subnet on any other interface on the host? j If you are able to set up a packet sniffer on USB network device on the host, try tapping 'installer' on the FR and see what IP the connection attempt comes from. I thought i had it setup this way address 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.101 (my MBP) My home lan is using 192.168.1.*** range. No idea on how to sniff packets, at this time. When I click on the installer it pops up a message; ERROR: Cannot access *. Please check your network When I plug the OM into the computer, it does show the MAC address, in dmesg; net_lucid_cake_driver_AJZaurusUSB: Ethernet address 40:00:ff:f7:87:5c PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Thank you for reporting this bug. It has been fixed. Thomas Bertani schrieb: 2008/10/13 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I go on the site and the first thing i see is a popup that shows that the site was partly hacked with javascript comment entrys. It is not very good if the comment is interpreted as html code. :( The hack disables the left category menu. Only with help of firefox and noscript i can disable the hack locally and get the menu back. Ciao, Rainer It was me but I contacted the author of the site and he fixed the 2 bugs... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Fox Mulder schrieb: I go on the site and the first thing i see is a popup that shows that the site was partly hacked with javascript comment entrys. It is not very good if the comment is interpreted as html code. :( The hack disables the left category menu. Only with help of firefox and noscript i can disable the hack locally and get the menu back. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: UBIFS was Re: Compressed file system for SD?
Am Monday 13 October 2008 02:14:06 schrieb nickd: Bummer. Upon further reading I see the difference in flash devices now. Do you think UBIFS could replace JFFS on the Freerunner? Is there a benefit? Or is there not enough wiggle room on the FR for caching? It seems better overall [1]. Would it be possible to replace it yourself with the appropriate kernel modules etc? Ok enough questions ;-) -Nick 1. http://lwn.net/Articles/275706/ Lorn Potter wrote: nickd wrote: I haven't sorry. Coincidentaly, the new kernel which was released the other day (.27) includes a new filesystem designed for flash drives - UBIFS [1]. I wonder if this could be relevant to this project. It looks like it has full write-back support, meaning it doesn't need to write to the SD card all the time, although I guess we don't have that much memory to play with. ubifs wont work on sd cards, which are not true flash devices. but it is relevant and could replace jffs2. As could yaffs2. Missing just someone compiling an image and doing some benchmarks. With OE it should be easy. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
Am Monday 13 October 2008 07:34:38 schrieb Stefan Monnier: Check out nano. Has anyone compiled Emacs for the Om2008.9 distribution? Or maybe Zile? http://buildhost.freesmartphone.org/~mickeyl/om-gta02-deploy/ipk/armv4t/zile_2.2.15-r0_armv4t.ipk -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Default OM settings, no lan messed up
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:04:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Default OM settings, no lan messed up On Oct 13, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Joel Newkirk wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:10:28 -0700, Rodney Myers wrote: OS = OS X 10.5.5 I received my OM this past week. Took some time to locate an ATT sim card that would work. Yesterday, I was able to follow the instructions at; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X ,and using the link; http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9 grabbing the rootfs of Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.rootfs.jffs2 to flash the phone. Once flashed, I noticed there was no console icon anymore I was able to SSH into the OM. Once I did that, I edited changed the /etc/network/interfaces file to reflect my lan. 192.168.1.*** Before I logged out, I catted the file to make sure that I had correctly set that file. It all looked correct I then logged out of the phone restarted the phone, thinking I now would be able to ssh, without jumping through hoops. No such luck. Now, the IP address is neither the default nor anything on the 192.168.1.*** network.. Any help in getting the phone functioning again, would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks What is the full IP, gateway, and subnet mask you set on the FreeRunner, and on the USB network interface on your host? Does it overlap the subnet on any other interface on the host? j If you are able to set up a packet sniffer on USB network device on the host, try tapping 'installer' on the FR and see what IP the connection attempt comes from. I thought i had it setup this way address 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.101 (my MBP) My home lan is using 192.168.1.*** range. No idea on how to sniff packets, at this time. When I click on the installer it pops up a message; ERROR: Cannot access *. Please check your network When I plug the OM into the computer, it does show the MAC address, in dmesg; net_lucid_cake_driver_AJZaurusUSB: Ethernet address 40:00:ff:f7:87:5c Using 192.168.1.x for local network with internet acess and 192.168.0.202 is my freerunner. I find no reason for this but sometimes internet acess from FR won't work, then I run firestarter (a firewall out of the ubuntu repositories) and internet works again (even if i shutdown firestarter). On freerunner (192.168.1.1 is my router, 192.168.0.200 is my host computer): auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.200 gateway 192.168.0.200 up echo nameserver 192.168.1.1 /etc/resolv.conf On Host (Ubuntu): auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.192 post-up /etc/network/freerunner start pre-down /etc/network/freerunner stop the /etc/network/freerunner script you can find in the wiki (USB_Networking in section Ubuntu, Debian and others) _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
San Francisco - Code Sprint and User Group schedule
Hi all - Below is the upcoming OpenMoko Users Group and Code Sprint schedule. All events start at 6pm; Users Groups last about 2 hours, code sprints could last longer. All events are at PariSoMa, 1436 Howard St (at 10th), San Francisco. (Info and location at PariSoMa.com) Wed, Oct 15 - Code Sprint Wed, Oct 22 - Code Sprint Tues, Oct 28 - Users Group Mtg Weds, Nov 12 - Code Sprint Tues, Nov 18 - Code Sprint Tues, Nov 25 - Users Group Mtg The winning code sprint topics are: Media player testing This is great for a wide range of OpenMoko users, from beginners to developers Bug fixes (based on current OpenMoko bug list) Aimed at developers Online / streaming radio player port (e.g. Pandora, Last.fm, etc) The port work is aimed at OpenMoko and web devs, documentation / use testing by any type of users ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Default OM settings, no lan messed up
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:04:34 -0700, Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 13, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Joel Newkirk wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:10:28 -0700, Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS = OS X 10.5.5 I was able to SSH into the OM. Once I did that, I edited changed the /etc/network/interfaces file to reflect my lan. 192.168.1.*** Before I logged out, I catted the file to make sure that I had correctly set that file. It all looked correct I then logged out of the phone restarted the phone, thinking I now would be able to ssh, without jumping through hoops. No such luck. Now, the IP address is neither the default nor anything on the 192.168.1.*** network.. Any help in getting the phone functioning again, would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks What is the full IP, gateway, and subnet mask you set on the FreeRunner, and on the USB network interface on your host? Does it overlap the subnet on any other interface on the host? j If you are able to set up a packet sniffer on USB network device on the host, try tapping 'installer' on the FR and see what IP the connection attempt comes from. I thought i had it setup this way address 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.101 (my MBP) My home lan is using 192.168.1.*** range. That's the problem there. Your desktop system already has a valid working route to 192.168.1.0/24 on ethernet. When you set up another network interface with the same subnet (192.168.1.0/24) then the result is OS/kernel dependent, but almost NEVER pretty. Try setting the usb networking on the host to 192.168.1.21, subnet mask 255.255.255.248 (that's /29). You should be able to communicate with the FR again at that point. The FR will still not connect to the world though. At the minimum you'll need to change the gateway to 192.168.1.21, and deal with /etc/resolv.conf. Then you should be able to reach the internet from the FR, though your LAN (except the host itself) will be unreachable. The safest setup is to have different subnets (like 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.0.0/24) on each interface. If you're currently running 192.168.1.0/24 on your LAN, then the usbnet connection should use a different (non-overlapping) subnet for simplest and best functioning. The MBP will need to NAT connections from the FR - presuming it just passes them, the rest of your network (including router/gateway to the internet) will send responses to the IP of the FR, which it will have no idea how to reach since it's 'behind' the MBP from the router's point of view. To fix that you'd have to make manual routing changes on the router, or set up proxy arp on the MBP, or a few other possibilities - all far more complex than just using different subnets. The 'fix' I mentioned first works because routing decisions (IE, what interface do I use for a packet going to a.b.c.d?) are typically made by looking at the MOST RESTRICTIVE route first. So if 192.168.1.20 is technically within two subnets for the host (192.168.1.0/24 on eth0 and 192.168.1.16/29 on usb0, for example) then it will use the route with the smaller subnet. (which means the larger subnet mask number in /24 /29 format) But normally other devices on the 192.168.1.0/24 network (like another computer, or router, or network printer) will expect 192.168.1.20 to be RIGHT on the wire out their own interface, NOT on the other side of your MBP. (from their perspective the MBP is a router they need to use to reach 192.168.1.21, and they don't know that) The other possibility (which I have no idea how to implement on osX) is to bridge the ethernet or wireless interface on the host to the usb networking interface. If for whatever reason you're insistent on keeping 192.168.1.0/24 addresses on everything, you can set up the smaller /29 subnet I mentioned at the top on both the host and the FR, and set up default route and nameserver on the FR appropriately. Note that without lower-level routing tweaks the FR will NOT be able to communicate correctly with other IPs in 192.168.1.0/24, just with and through the host. No idea on how to sniff packets, at this time. I don't honestly know what's available for the Mac, but I'd be surprised if wireshark were not. That (or tshark, the text-only console variant) is what I use almost exclusively on linux and windows systems. Oh, and back to your original post for a moment, you'll need to go into Installer and install Terminal, it's not preinstalled in the image. (once Installer can communicate with the internet again, that is;) j PS: ipcalc is a handy tool... $ ipcalc -b 192.168.1.20/29 Address: 192.168.1.20 Netmask: 255.255.255.248 = 29 Wildcard: 0.0.0.7 = Network: 192.168.1.16/29 HostMin: 192.168.1.17 HostMax: 192.168.1.22 Broadcast: 192.168.1.23 Hosts/Net: 6
USB networking problems with Ubuntu host (was RE: Default OM settings, no lan messed up)
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:03:54 +, Matthias Camenzind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using 192.168.1.x for local network with internet acess and 192.168.0.202 is my freerunner. I find no reason for this but sometimes internet acess from FR won't work, then I run firestarter (a firewall out of the ubuntu repositories) and internet works again (even if i shutdown firestarter). On freerunner (192.168.1.1 is my router, 192.168.0.200 is my host computer): auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.200 gateway 192.168.0.200 up echo nameserver 192.168.1.1 /etc/resolv.conf On Host (Ubuntu): auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.192 post-up /etc/network/freerunner start pre-down /etc/network/freerunner stop the /etc/network/freerunner script you can find in the wiki (USB_Networking in section Ubuntu, Debian and others) Is it possible that it's not working after reboot? I'm wondering if there's a DROP rule in the FORWARD chain of the hosts's firewall. (sudo iptables -vnL FORWARD shows Policy, rules, and packet/byte counts that matched each - check it next time there's a problem BEFORE you run firestarter, as well as cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward which should return '1') The simple fix in this scenario would probably be just to add these two lines to the 'start' section of /etc/network/freerunner, based on what's in the wiki: iptables -I FORWARD -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT iptables -I FORWARD -d 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT You can add the corresponding 'iptables -D' commands in the 'stop' section to delete these rules if you like, but leaving them laying around is pretty harmless. I run Ubuntu on several workstations, three servers, and a bridge, with my FR regularly connected to three of the above. We'll make it work. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
On Monday 13 October 2008, Daniel Nöthen wrote: I finally found a place in the qtopia sources where I could put code for activating the echo suppression for every incoming/outgoing call. Would you mind attaching your patch here: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267 Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Battery crazy?
The following is with Om.2008.9 + opkg upgrade: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 1158 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 623 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 2003 min Should I be worried? Rui -- You are what you see. Today is Sweetmorn, the 67th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
� wrote: Hello, I finally found a place in the qtopia sources where I could put code for activating the echo suppression for every incoming/outgoing call. I'm quite sure that experienced qtopia programmers would find a better place for it. A better place for stuff needed for a particular modem, would be in the phone vendor plugin. That's what its there for. Not to defray this patch, but this is very calypso specific, and not part of the GSM spec. (although any other modem would most likely just spit out an error) But this just works. And as long as no other solution is out there I will share it with other people who want to combat the echo. The patch is against the latest snapshot of Holgers qtopia git. commit: 09335e76e1762b97dad23b997978424ed10f8da1 Unfortunately this version doesn't load the gmshandset.state file when a call is initiated. When compiling with this patch a new libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4.3.2 is created. I replaced this lib with the one on my OM2008.9. Instead of compiling it yourself you can download the file here: http://danielnoethen.de/libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4.3.2 Just replace it with the one in /opt/Qtopia/lib and restart qtopia with: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart In combination with this gsmhandset.state file the volume of your calling partner is loud enough, and vice versa. http://danielnoethen.de/gsmhandset.state It should work with every distro that uses qtopia-phone-x11_4.3.2 and a device that has the calypso modem. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New rotate version
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Description: Binary data
/* -*- tab-width:4; c-basic-offset:4 -*-
* rotate.c -- determine Freerunner orientation.
* Author -- Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* This file is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
* under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the
* Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any
* later version.
*/
#include stdarg.h
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include unistd.h
#include X11/Xlib.h
#include X11/extensions/Xrandr.h
#include pthread.h
#include sys/time.h
#define EVENT_PATH/dev/input/event3
#define EVENT_LEN 5
#define ORIENTATION_NORMAL0
#define ORIENTATION_LEFT 1
#define ORIENTATION_RIGHT 2
#define ORIENTATION_INVERTED 3
static Display *display;
static Window rootWindow;
static char evenBuffer[EVENT_LEN];
static int tail,head;
int timeval_subtract (struct timeval *result, struct timeval *x, struct timeval *y)
{
if (x-tv_usec y-tv_usec) {
int nsec = (y-tv_usec - x-tv_usec) / 100 + 1;
y-tv_usec -= 100 * nsec;
y-tv_sec += nsec;
}
if (x-tv_usec - y-tv_usec 100) {
int nsec = (x-tv_usec - y-tv_usec) / 100;
y-tv_usec += 100 * nsec;
y-tv_sec -= nsec;
}
result-tv_sec = x-tv_sec - y-tv_sec;
result-tv_usec = x-tv_usec - y-tv_usec;
return x-tv_sec y-tv_sec;
}
void *pEvenThrd( void *ptr )
{
FILE *eventfp = (FILE *)ptr;
int state;
int curline;
unsigned short buffer[8 * 7];
int i;
unsigned short x=0;
unsigned short y=0;
unsigned short z=0;
int oldrotation = -1;
/* The raw data looks like:
*
* portrait
* 2ca3 48ab 43bf 000d # start of packet
* 2ca3 48ab 687b 000d 0002 005a # X
* 2ca3 48ab 68a8 000d 0002 0001 fc34 # Y
* 2ca3 48ab 68c1 000d 0002 0002 0048 # Z
* 2ca3 48ab 68c6 000d # start of packet
*
* landscape
* 2ca5 48ab 0f8f 0008 0002 03cc # X
* 2ca5 48ab 0fc4 0008 0002 0001 0168 # Y
* 2ca5 48ab 0fde 0008 0002 0002 005a # Z
*/
while (1)
{
/* We have to read enough to guarantee a full packet, since if
* we try to read one line at a time we'll end up missing lines. */
fread (buffer, 1, sizeof (buffer), eventfp);
state = 0;
/* We get 7 packets at once, to ensure that we have 3 good ones.
* Each of those has 8*2 bytes inside it. */
for (i = 0; i = 6; i++)
{
curline = i * 8;
switch (state)
{
/* State machine:
* 0: Find a new packet
* 1: record X (jump to 0 on error)
* 2: record Y (jump to 0 on error)
* 3: record Z (jump to 0 on error), process packet, reset
*/
case 0:
if (buffer[curline + 4] == 0x0 buffer[curline + 5] == 0x0) {
x = y = z = 0;
state = 1;
}
break;
case 1:
if (!(buffer[curline + 4] == 0x2 buffer[curline + 5] == 0x0)) {
//printf(EXPECTED: 2 0: %x %x\n,
// buffer[curline + 4], buffer[curline + 5]);
state = 0;
break;
}
x = buffer[curline + 7];
state++;
break;
case 2:
if (!(buffer[curline + 4] == 0x2 buffer[curline + 5] == 0x1)) {
// printf(EXPECTED: 2 1: %x %x\n,
// buffer[curline + 4], buffer[curline + 5]);
state = 0;
break;
}
y = buffer[curline + 7];
state++;
break;
case 3:
if (!(buffer[curline + 4] == 0x2 buffer[curline + 5] == 0x2)) {
// printf(EXPECTED: 2 2: %x %x\n,
// buffer[curline + 4], buffer[curline + 5]);
state = 0;
break;
}
z = buffer[curline + 7];
/*
* We finished a packet. Process it.
* We test the final 4 bytes for:
* / -- portrait
* / -- portrait
* / -- landscape
* / -- landscape
*
* We might do better by using the previous eight bytes and
* diagonal quadrants instead of the final four bytes, but
* this seems to work out well for now.
*/
if (y == 0x (x == 0x || x == 0x0))
{
if (oldrotation!=ORIENTATION_NORMAL)
{
evenBuffer[head]=ORIENTATION_NORMAL;
head = (head+1) % EVENT_LEN;
Re: Battery crazy?
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:35:48 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is with Om.2008.9 + opkg upgrade: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 1158 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 623 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 2003 min Should I be worried? Rui I'd not think so. The estimated time remaining varies because your 'recent' power usage varies between checks. If GSM or wifi start requiring more power than before to maintain connection, for example, or backlight usage varies, etc, then the estimate will change according to recent usage. (I'm assuming those weren't invoked immediately after one another, but that some time elapsed between checks - regardless, only the estimated time is acting in any way unexpectedly - remaining capacity seems to be pretty consistent and presumably fairly accurate) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Lorn Potter wrote: A better place for stuff needed for a particular modem, would be in the phone vendor plugin. That's what its there for. Not to defray this patch, but this is very calypso specific, and not part of the GSM spec. (although any other modem would most likely just spit out an error) Yes, I assumed something like that. I've looked at the ficgta01 phonevendor sources but didn't find a method that is called on every initiated call where I could put those two lines. This patch is only meant as a temporary bugfix until some more experienced qtopia programmer (maybe you? ;)) finds a better place for the echo suppression lines. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery crazy?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 04:30:22PM -0400, Joel Newkirk wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:35:48 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is with Om.2008.9 + opkg upgrade: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 1158 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 623 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 2003 min Should I be worried? Rui I'd not think so. The estimated time remaining varies because your 'recent' power usage varies between checks. If GSM or wifi start requiring more power than before to maintain connection, for example, or backlight usage varies, etc, then the estimate will change according to recent usage. (I'm assuming those weren't invoked immediately after one another, but that some time elapsed between checks - regardless, only the estimated time is acting in any way unexpectedly - remaining capacity seems to be pretty consistent and presumably fairly accurate) I know it wasn't timestamped, bu these were consecutive readings, perhaps within less of a second between each... I'm not using wifi, no active call, not anything... Rui -- Frink! Today is Sweetmorn, the 67th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 17:02 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: How can I enlarge the console command history? I'm used to being able to peruse hundreds of lines of previous commands in bash, the limit to ~16 lines is maddening. j I want to know how to do is too, I'm one os those lazy up arrow smashers :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
If you use bash on OM than do it the same way how it is done in a normal linux pc. You must export HISTFILESIZE=1000 to set the number of lines saved to 1000. Just put this command in an adequate file to be executed at start like profile or bashrc. Ciao, Rainer David Samblas wrote: El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 17:02 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: How can I enlarge the console command history? I'm used to being able to peruse hundreds of lines of previous commands in bash, the limit to ~16 lines is maddening. j I want to know how to do is too, I'm one os those lazy up arrow smashers :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
[Sorry, this may be slightly off topic] May I draw the attention of those whom it might concern to the following article on LWN, where some guys got linux to boot on an eee pc in 5 seconds: http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ Am I the only one whose eyes are dreamy and glazed over after reading this? Can we learn anything from this? 2008/10/13 Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:48:50 +0200, David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 00:42 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: Which one way or another goes to highlight that Qi - as it stands now and from what I understand of the intention for it - will not be usable for a dual-boot setup. Not a problem actually, as NOR uBoot will let us achieve that, and I realize that the common target case will be a user who wants a smartphone, not a multiboot development platform. I just realized that the default behavior of Qi being uSD and the default behavior of uBoot being NAND means you could place 'primary' on uSD and 'secondary' in NAND, and booting to secondary is just two-step - NOR boot with aux+power, then power again to boot. Don't you love that feeling when things start to click? :) Now I have Base/Empty firing up by default, Raster+FSO if I use aux to invoke NOR Uboot. j I'm not a kernel hacker only a user, but as I undertand It would be better to invert that behaviour, better to primary boot from NAND and then secondary boot on uSD, a normal user must boot his phone even without any uSD. Normal boot to nand, and if you want to boot from anything else do something else. It's a pitty than NOR uboot doesn't allow to boot from uSD by default, but this fault does't have to change the logical behaviour NAND is attached to the phone and is less likely blow up the hole S.O. sa mistake by a normal user putting some music in his uSD card trough a 2.0 Card reader :) seekeng for some free space If there's NO uSD, or the uSD doesn't contain a folder named 'boot' on the first partition, with a file named 'uImage.bin', then Qi will boot from NAND. It's just if you WANT a dual-boot environment that currently Qi doesn't let you do that simply. As Andy noted in his response to that post, however, he plans for Qi to support user selection of boot, it just doesn't do it at this time. Until it offers the ability to select, then the present behavior (check for kernel on uSD, else use NAND) makes more sense that always going to NAND and only NAND. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
On 13 Oct 2008, at 22:02, Joel Newkirk wrote: How can I enlarge the console command history? I'm used to being able to peruse hundreds of lines of previous commands in bash, the limit to ~16 lines is maddening. Isn't it in .bashrc or .bash_profile? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate version
Oscar Casamitjana wrote: Hi all here you have my rotate version. This version is based in Chris Ball's rotate, but with some changes: * The adquisition engine is encapsulated in a thread. * Before rotating screen, it ensures two seconds for the new position * Backlight turns black while screen rotating. Thanks Oscar. This version works really good. For all who don't know how to compile it: arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -o rotate rotate.c -lpthread -lXrandr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Default OM settings, no lan messed up
The main problem is, I cannot ssh into the OM to make any changes. I cannot ping the OM, using 192.168.1.0 / 192.168.0.0 In the default setup, there is no shell icon anymore, so I am unable to see what the IP address really is. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 11:58 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:48:50 +0200, David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 00:42 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: Which one way or another goes to highlight that Qi - as it stands now and from what I understand of the intention for it - will not be usable for a dual-boot setup. Not a problem actually, as NOR uBoot will let us achieve that, and I realize that the common target case will be a user who wants a smartphone, not a multiboot development platform. I just realized that the default behavior of Qi being uSD and the default behavior of uBoot being NAND means you could place 'primary' on uSD and 'secondary' in NAND, and booting to secondary is just two-step - NOR boot with aux+power, then power again to boot. Don't you love that feeling when things start to click? :) Now I have Base/Empty firing up by default, Raster+FSO if I use aux to invoke NOR Uboot. j I'm not a kernel hacker only a user, but as I undertand It would be better to invert that behaviour, better to primary boot from NAND and then secondary boot on uSD, a normal user must boot his phone even without any uSD. Normal boot to nand, and if you want to boot from anything else do something else. It's a pitty than NOR uboot doesn't allow to boot from uSD by default, but this fault does't have to change the logical behaviour NAND is attached to the phone and is less likely blow up the hole S.O. sa mistake by a normal user putting some music in his uSD card trough a 2.0 Card reader :) seekeng for some free space If there's NO uSD, or the uSD doesn't contain a folder named 'boot' on the first partition, with a file named 'uImage.bin', then Qi will boot from NAND. It's just if you WANT a dual-boot environment that currently Qi doesn't let you do that simply. As Andy noted in his response to that post, however, he plans for Qi to support user selection of boot, it just doesn't do it at this time. Until it offers the ability to select, then the present behavior (check for kernel on uSD, else use NAND) makes more sense that always going to NAND and only NAND. j OK that make sense , I have not fully understood Qi boot mechanism thaks for your explanation Joel :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Default OM settings, no lan messed up
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main problem is, I cannot ssh into the OM to make any changes. I cannot ping the OM, using 192.168.1.0 / 192.168.0.0 In the default setup, there is no shell icon anymore, so I am unable to see what the IP address really is. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community You may have set the FR properly but it won't route properly from the desktop side. Try adding a host route on the desktop ifconfig add -host 192.168.1.20 dev usb0 You might be able to reach it then. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QtExtended call forwarding
I'm sitting here playing with QtExtended right now and see that the call forwarding settings has a phone number filled out already. The phone number is 191742004 with the last two numbers being 98 (broke up the number, so google doesn't index it). Does anyone know what this is about? -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
