Re: Some debian questions

[Guillaume Chereau]

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:29 +0800, Guillaume Chereau wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have
> > some questions. :)
> > 
> > 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework.
> > I have seen there's now support for a "rules" file, which seems quite a
> > nice idea.
> > 
> > Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That
> > way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my
> > program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be
> > done by the framework.
> > 
> > Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS
> > interface for modifying rules?
> You can already add new rules using the dbus call :
> org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s)
> 
> the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules
> file.
> 
> For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using
> 'name' attribute in the rules file.)
> I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and
> remove rules.

Ok I added the RemoveRule method to oeventsd, you can check oevents.py
in the framework tests directory to see how to add and remove rules.

BUT, it makes me realize a problem : the rules manager only activates
the rules that are specified in the rules preference file (e.g [0])

So if you add a new rule with a name, the rule won't be activated unless
you also specify that the rule is activated in the preference file. that
is not very good and we need to solve this problem.

cheers,
Guillaume

 [0] :
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/rules/default.yaml;h=e0066eff76973b5597d879bf81b0e0f490660bdb;hb=HEAD



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Re: Some debian questions

[Guillaume Chereau]

On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have
> some questions. :)
> 
> 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework.
> I have seen there's now support for a "rules" file, which seems quite a
> nice idea.
> 
> Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That
> way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my
> program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be
> done by the framework.
> 
> Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS
> interface for modifying rules?
You can already add new rules using the dbus call :
org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s)

the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules
file.

For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using
'name' attribute in the rules file.)
I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and
remove rules.

- Guillaume/Charlie


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Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls

[Previdi Roberto]

Is there a plan to access also the accelerometers through dbus? it seems to
me that reading continuously from them without appropriate timing could be
heavy for the battery. more, having to do the decoding part from each
application who uses the sensor is complicated and error prone, while having
a signal for the position change, with x,y,z already decoded would simplify
a lot the coding (and encourage it)..

BTW, very good idea and good and readable code

(i didn't test it, but reading the code i thougth this: shouldn't the lines
55 and 56 be unindented of 1 space? actually they intercept only the first
call, and if there is a second call you have to turn it up and then down..
is that wanted? or maybe i just didn't read well the code and it is
correct.. in this case just ignore the question :))

roby

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Amazing work! Can we drag it into the 'examples' folder in FSO?
>
> Btw., note that once we have some missing glue done, we'll have signals
> like "EnterArea" and "LeaveArea" for GPS (and more), so use-cases like
> yours
> should be expressable via simple rules in our rules file.
>
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Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility

[The Rasterman]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:57:27 +0100 Bastiaan Hovestreydt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> Hi,
> 
> since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-)
> I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is
> in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS
> variable in /etc/X11/Xserver.
> Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to
> show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change
> the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't
> have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again.

basically - no. there is no x extension or call to globally make a cursor not
visible or visible. thus it's a cmd-line option. you can make an attempt at
this in the window manager by setting root cursor to "blank" or "visible" BUT
amny apps and toolkits explicitly set cursors of their own on their own windows
or on their widgets (eg a different cursor over text areas) and the root cursor
is overridden here - thus the global disable option to not have to go patching
every app/toolkit and still possibly get a cursor.

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Re: What files do I install to get audio. in 2008.testing

[William Kenworthy]

ahh, should have realised that.  2008.testing  Ive gone back to 2008.9
now as testing has so many bugs in illume that its not usable - will try
again in a few days so it would still be nice to know whats needed to
turn these minimal images into something usable.

BillK

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> William Kenworthy wrote:
> > Ive been trying testing out and after 3 days, Ive finally gotten a pin
> > dialog and was able to register.  However, what files do I need to
> > install to get audio.  On one flash I installed everything alsa and was
> > able to stream audio via mplayer, but still none in the dialler.  I am
> > after a minimal set of files to simply testing each version out so I
> > just want to know the minimum needed to get it to work.
> 
> Which image? Openmoko, FSO and SHR all have 'testing' repos.
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Re: DIY Audioadaptor

[Fabian Henze]

On 28.10.2008 at 21:57:09, Marcel wrote:
> There's a notice on the wiki about a working adaptor I also own - didn't
> notice significant quality decrease with it and it works well. Just to
> possibly save you from soldering (although I know its fun). :)

As far as I know this adaptor is mono-only, right?

-- Fabian

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Re: DIY Audioadaptor

[Marcel]

There's a notice on the wiki about a working adaptor I also own - didn't 
notice significant quality decrease with it and it works well. Just to 
possibly save you from soldering (although I know its fun). :)

-Marcel

Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:34:47 schrieb Thomas Köckerbauer:
> > I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the
> > FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to
> > good for this task (german website):
> > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47
> >78 4
> > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47
> >78 5
> > http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=94
> >10
> >
> > Now I wonder, whether
> > a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt?
>
> I bought this connector:
> http://www1.at.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_at/~flN0YXRlPTM5NzYwMDU3MjU=?~
>template=pcat_product_details_document&product_show_id=730520&no_brotkrumenn
>avi=1&zhmmh_area_kz=LN It does not fit very well. The metal-base of the
> connector has a to large diameter. Since the headset socket of the
> Freerunner is a bit inside of the case the connector has only full contact
> if I press in the connector really hard (the case caves in a bit). As soon
> as I stop pressing the plug goes back outside a bit again and looses
> contact again. So you have to make sure that the base of the connector is
> not to large (this is somewhat similar to the headset connector problem
> that was there at the first iPhone).
> Maybe as a suggestion for improvement for further OpenMoko phones would be
> that the headset socket should be not be to far in the device.
> I'm now thinking about buying a Nokia headset and making an adapter out of
> it, since those have plugs that are normally smaller than those for
> self-soldering.
>
> > b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to
> > solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work
> > around the bad sound quality some people have noticed?
>
> I did not add anything in between. I can't complain about the audio quality
> (I've also read those reports about bad sound quality, but I did not really
> notice anything).
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Re: Android open sourced

[Jim Ancona]

Peter Neubauer wrote:
> Thanks for the fast reply,
> will keep an eye on that!

Some more links:

Ben Leslie's blog:
http://benno.id.au/blog/

Google's android-porting mailing list: 
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting

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Re: DIY Audioadaptor

[Thomas Köckerbauer]

> I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the
> FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to
> good for this task (german website):
> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=4778
>4
> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=4778
>5
> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=9410
>
> Now I wonder, whether
> a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt?

I bought this connector: 
http://www1.at.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_at/~flN0YXRlPTM5NzYwMDU3MjU=?~template=pcat_product_details_document&product_show_id=730520&no_brotkrumennavi=1&zhmmh_area_kz=LN
It does not fit very well. The metal-base of the connector has a to large 
diameter. Since the headset socket of the Freerunner is a bit inside of the 
case the connector has only full contact if I press in the connector really 
hard (the case caves in a bit). As soon as I stop pressing the plug goes back 
outside a bit again and looses contact again. So you have to make sure that 
the base of the connector is not to large (this is somewhat similar to the 
headset connector problem that was there at the first iPhone).
Maybe as a suggestion for improvement for further OpenMoko phones would be 
that the headset socket should be not be to far in the device.
I'm now thinking about buying a Nokia headset and making an adapter out of it, 
since those have plugs that are normally smaller than those for 
self-soldering.

> b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to
> solder some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work around
> the bad sound quality some people have noticed?

I did not add anything in between. I can't complain about the audio quality 
(I've also read those reports about bad sound quality, but I did not really 
notice anything).

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Re: DIY Audioadaptor

[elh]

Hi,

> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47784
I can't recommend this connector. It works, but not very well. I have to  
pull out
the connector aprox. 1 mm to get stereo output. And this position is not  
very
stable.

> http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47785
If you try this one, please let me know, if it works better.

> b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to  
> solder
> some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work around the  
> bad
> sound quality some people have noticed?
I'm using my selfmade adapter only to connect to some line inputs. As these
have a high impedance, the sound quality is ok.



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Re: Android open sourced

[Peter Neubauer]

Thanks for the fast reply,
will keep an eye on that!

/peter

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On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:34 AM, nick d. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sign up to Koolu's forum [1] and see what's going on there. Cfriedt also has
> a spreadsheet of progress that seems to have been updated frequently [2].
> Last time I check there were a few to go but now, not so much. See also [3].
>
> Nick
>
> 1. http://forum.koolu.org/
> 2. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pzDEXnU19gkeTjpD28t-7fw
> 3. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android
>
>
> See also:
>
> http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1361683
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Peter Neubauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>> is there any progress on the porting of Android to the FR yet? Are
>> updates posted to this list, since it seems pretty quite around the
>> port?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /peter
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>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jan Prinsloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > WHO :)
>> >
>> > Let the games begin!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Kuper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 2008/10/21 Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>
>> >>> time to port to Neo !
>> >>
>> >> I'm going to be watching this with interest!
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fso-control

[digger vermont]

Hello,

Here's something I'm working on, fso-control.  

http://mysite.verizon.net/~digver/apps/fso-control.tar.gz

Uses python and edje to control the state (suspend, reboot, shutdown)
with frameworkd.  It's not unlike what I remember 2007.* and 2008.*
having when the POWER button is pressed.

Some points
* install.sh will cp the files to install but its probably safer
  to do it manually.
* It works from the desktop icon
* "lock" and "more" buttons currently do nothing.
* Add a rule to /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml
---
trigger: InputEvent()
filters:
 - HasAttr(switch, "POWER")
 - HasAttr(event, "pressed")
actions: Command('fso-control')

* Why doesn't it work from the POWER button?
  I asked about in devel list.
  http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-testing--Can%
27t-start-GUI-with-oevents-rule.-td1389692ef1958.html;cid=1225223928263-321

* With fso-testing /etc/dbus-1/system.d/frameworkd.conf has an error:
  Its changed in frameworkd.git.
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* I plan to add control of the various radios.
* I plan to figure out how to package it.
* Think thats all.  Hope it works!


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Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility

[Pander]

Bastiaan Hovestreydt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-)
> I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is
> in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS
> variable in /etc/X11/Xserver.
> Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to
> show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change
> the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't
> have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again.

I'd like to add: And when possible make this available as a checkbox in
one of the configuration menus. Thanks, PAnder

> 
> 
> Bastiaan
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility

[Bastiaan Hovestreydt]

Hi,

since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-)
I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is
in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS
variable in /etc/X11/Xserver.
Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to
show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change
the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't
have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again.


Bastiaan



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Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?

[Joel Newkirk]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:19:04 +0100, Matthias Apitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I have now installed and configured:
> 
># opkg install gpsd
># opkg install
> http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.9.3-r1_armv4t.ipk
> 
># vi /etc/default/gpsd
>GPS_DEV="/dev/ttySAC1"
> 
># /etc/init.d/gpsd stop
># /etc/init.d/gpsd start
> 
> because 'Locations' always claims that in can't find the Fix for my
> actual location;
> 
> TangoGPS starts fine, connects to the 'gpsd' and downloads the maps
> through the USB interface from Internet; sometimes is just segfaults :-(
> 
> I can't see if TangoGPS knows where I am;
> how can I prove this if GSM is really working?
> 
>   matthias

http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/8-User-Manual.html

Below the map display in TangoGPS is a line of text.  If it starts with 'D'
followed by digits then it has that many map tiles it's queued up to
download.  Following that, or first if it's not downloading, are speed,
heading, etc.  

Or tap over to the 'Trip' tab and check the status there.  'Satellites'
will be X/Y where X is the number it can see and Y (hopefully >4) is how
many it's using.

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Re: opkg.org and neo1973-germany.de

[Tobias Kündig]

Of course! Feel free to add all the software you have. Just register for 
an account at www.opkg.org.

If you need help or you have any questions, drop me a line!

Regards,
Tobias

Am 28.10.2008 08:18, Risto H. Kurppa schrieb:
> I see that some great software has been done in Germany. Would it be
> possible to add these to opkg.org to get bigger audience and user
> base?
>
> r
>
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DIY Audioadaptor

[Fabian Henze]

Hi,
I was about to solder myself an adaptor to use my headphones with the 
FreeRunner as an ogg/flac player. I have found some jacks, which seem to good 
for this task (german website):
http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47784
http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=47785
http://www.reichelt.de/?;ACTION=3;LA=2;GROUP=C161;GROUPID=3237;ARTICLE=9410

Now I wonder, whether
a) the jack inside the fr is compatible to the ones of reichelt?
b) I just need to connect the jacks with a proper cable or do I have to solder 
some resistor, capacitor or sth, different in between to work around the bad 
sound quality some people have noticed?

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Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8

[Holger Freyther]

On Tuesday 28 October 2008 16:00:28 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

> So I guess additional piece in Contacts code wasn't patched or I am not
> running desired version of qpe (using last FDOM without additional
> upgrades)

No idea what FDOM is using as versions..

http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=d6b1877f90a3d97811eebeaac9910ff2a643c010

this was done over a month ago, feel free to test it.

z.

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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

[David Samblas]

Use top on a ssh sesion on a externa pc conected trough usb
El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 11:56 +0100, Pander escribió:
> I mean short interval and non disturbing logging top while doing normal
> phone functions. Looking at top in a terminal and testing phone functions
> do not go together easily. Any ideas?
> 
> On Tue, October 28, 2008 09:09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data
> >> about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate
> >> why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up.
> >
> > top?
> >
> > r
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Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8

[Yaroslav Halchenko]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Holger Freyther wrote:
> > or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-)
> If you change the mentioned key Contacts and the Contact Selection Dialog 
> will 
> show the search bar. The Contact Selection didn't work because Trolltech copy 
> and pasted the 80% of the same code to multiple places. So far we have found 
> two and patches both of them (actually trevino spotted both).

> does this answer your question?
I might be still slow... what key should I change?
may be I haven't described situation clearly

I do have 'extended' Contacts.conf which has 
[default]
EnableFindBar=1

thus I do have a search bar in the 'Contacts', but I don't have it
whenever I click on Contacts from within the Dialer.

So I guess additional piece in Contacts code wasn't patched or I am not
running desired version of qpe (using last FDOM without additional
upgrades)
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Re: CRC Fail

[arne anka]

> Maybe this answer from Andy Green helps you a bit because this question
> already comes up some time ago. You only had to search this mailing list
> for his response.
> http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td532868


thanks for the link -- i tried to tell him that a while ago, but to no  
avail.

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Re: CRC Fail

[Fox Mulder]

Maybe this answer from Andy Green helps you a bit because this question
already comes up some time ago. You only had to search this mailing list
for his response.
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td532868

Morten Olsen Lysgaard wrote:
> Same here, but no sympthoms. Anyone know exactly what it means?
> 
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 12:37 +0100, Martijn Otto wrote:
>> I have seen those CRC Fail messages too on OM2008.9, but the device
>> works just as it should.
>>
>> 2008/10/27 David Garabana Barro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> El Sábado, 25 de Outubro de 2008, Armin ranjbar escribió:
 I have noticed that my device takes a lot of time to reach init state ,
 its appear that kernel take huge amount of time to boot filesystem , i
 have changed log_level of boot args and noticed few CRC Fail 0x1a3f , boot
>>> I get those "CRC Fail" too, but mine boots with no other (apparent) problem.
>>>
>>> Could anyone confirm CRC fail is sort of "normal"?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)

[Marcel]

Oh. So that's why qtopia always loses that data. I thought it was related to 
reflashing and wondered why, because it has it's db on the sd card... *g*

Marcel

Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 00:53:59 schrieb W.Kenworthy:
> because when the phone suspends you lose calls/sms messages ...
>
> BillK
>
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 17:36 +0100, Marcel wrote:
> > Why do you all turn off suspend?
> > I can clearly understand (and I do this also) that autosuspend is a mess
> > if

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Re: [FSO] QT Dbus connection to Gypsy

[Nicola Mfb]

2008/10/28 Michael Tansella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > Are you extracting the data out of the
> > struct with the ">>" operators
>
> Thank you again for that hint:
>
> For interested the way I implemented it:
>

Here my snippet to read Phonebooks from sim:

struct PhonebookEntry
{
int index;
QString name;
QString number;
};

Q_DECLARE_METATYPE ( PhonebookEntry );
Q_DECLARE_METATYPE ( QList );

const QDBusArgument &operator>>(const QDBusArgument &argument,
PhonebookEntry &pe) {
argument.beginStructure();
argument >> pe.index >> pe.name >> pe.number;
argument.endStructure();
return argument;
}

const QDBusArgument &operator<<(QDBusArgument &argument, const
PhonebookEntry &pe) {
argument.beginStructure();
argument << pe.index << pe.name << pe.number;
argument.endStructure();
return argument;
}

qDBusRegisterMetaType();  //somewhere in the code

QDBusMessage m=gsm_sim->call ( "RetrievePhonebook","received" );
QList lpe=qdbus_cast
>(m.arguments()[0]);
qDebug() < &lpe) {
foreach(PhonebookEntry pe, lpe) debug << pe;
return debug;
}

Where to put this? fso/wiki? om/wiki?

Regards

Nicola
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Re: zhone patch: contacts from vcf was: Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS

[Alastair Johnson]

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Am Monday 27 October 2008 14:10:53 schrieb Alastair Johnson:
>> arne anka wrote:
 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/index.htm
 l;hb=HEAD
>>> that one i was looking for -- none of the specific pages google lists has
>>> a reference to this toc.
>>>
 It's not an easy human-readable URL, but it is linked from the
 freesmartphone.org homepage, and it does give access to all the API docs
 I think.
>>> it has been sometime since i looked, but back then there was no link on
>>> the wiki (at least non easily found) and i never cared to look again.
>>> instead i asked 3 times at the smartphone-lists and never got an answer.
>> I had expected to find the mailing list details easily, but they are
>> burried on the Tutorials page!
> 
> ? http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Infrastructure
> 
> If you think that's buried... help us, it's a wiki!

I tried searching for 'mailing list' and that page is not among the results.

http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=mailing+list&go=Go

As for it being a wiki - hoist with my own petard ;-) Although if I had 
made a link from the front page it would have pointed to the wrong 
place. I'll add something more suitable now I know the right one.

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Some debian questions

[Benedikt Bär]

Hi all,

I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have
some questions. :)

1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework.
I have seen there's now support for a "rules" file, which seems quite a
nice idea.

Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That
way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my
program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be
done by the framework.

Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS
interface for modifying rules?

2) I now have nice text scrolling by on boot, which is fine. However,
I'd like to have a splash screen for my non-tech friends :).

I've already installed splashy, however, it fails to use /dev/fb0.
However, the file seems to be there and according to dmesg a FB driver
is loaded.

I've also modified my u-boot environment to add splash and vga=317 to
the kernel command line, however it still doesn't seem to work.

Any ideas? Are there special parameters or so to activate this?
I see this with both mwester's last kernel and the OM2008.9 latest
kernel (which seems to have a splash?).

Thanks to all,
-  
Benedikt

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Re: What files do I install to get audio. in testing

[Alastair Johnson]

William Kenworthy wrote:
> Ive been trying testing out and after 3 days, Ive finally gotten a pin
> dialog and was able to register.  However, what files do I need to
> install to get audio.  On one flash I installed everything alsa and was
> able to stream audio via mplayer, but still none in the dialler.  I am
> after a minimal set of files to simply testing each version out so I
> just want to know the minimum needed to get it to work.

Which image? Openmoko, FSO and SHR all have 'testing' repos.

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RE: debug board seems not working

[Lin Mac]

hi,

I just ignore the driver section and consider it is only required by flash 
eeprom part.
Thanks a lot!
Best Regards,
Mac Lin

> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:14:32 +0330
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: debug board seems not working
> 
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:01:40 +0800
> Lin Mac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> you need to connect to DB using openocd ;)
> 
> > 
> > hi,
> > 
> > I'm using Freerunner and debug board v3, and trying to use serial
> > console, and Ubuntu 8.04 on my PC.
> > 
> > I have connected the FR and the debug board with the flexible cable.
> > The /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 doesn't show up, but
> > only /dev/ttyACM0, when I connected both USB of freerunner and debug
> > board to PC, as described in
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3.
> > 
> > 1. Should the /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 show up while no FR
> > connected to debug board (and the debug board connected to PC)?
> > 2. Should I flash the debug board? 
> > Any idea? 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > --
> > dmesg result: 
> > [22932.304312] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
> > address 18 [22932.487138] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
> > [22932.497342] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c:
> > This device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem. [22932.497373]
> > cdc_acm 5-2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device [22935.663858] usb 5-1: new
> > full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 19 [22935.816913] usb
> > 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [22935.818759] hub 5-1:1.0:
> > USB hub found [22935.820674] hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
> > [22936.137318] usb 5-1.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd
> > and address 20 [22936.297399] usb 5-1.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> > choice
> > 
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb
> > Bus 007 Device 001: ID :  
> > Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. 
> > Bus 006 Device 001: ID :  
> > Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118  
> > Bus 005 Device 021: ID 0451:2046 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2046 Hub
> > Bus 005 Device 001: ID :  
> > Bus 002 Device 001: ID :  
> > Bus 001 Device 001: ID :  
> > Bus 004 Device 002: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. 
> > Bus 004 Device 001: ID :  
> > Bus 003 Device 001: ID :  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb -d 1457:5118 -v
> > 
> > Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118  
> > Device Descriptor:
> >   bLength18
> >   bDescriptorType 1
> >   bcdUSB   2.00
> >   bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
> >   bDeviceSubClass 0 
> >   bDeviceProtocol 0 
> >   bMaxPacketSize0 8
> >   idVendor   0x1457 
> >   idProduct  0x5118 
> >   bcdDevice5.00
> >   iManufacturer   1 OpenMoko
> >   iProduct2 Debug Board for Neo1973
> >   iSerial 0 
> >   bNumConfigurations  1
> >   Configuration Descriptor:
> > bLength 9
> > bDescriptorType 2
> > wTotalLength   55
> > bNumInterfaces  2
> > bConfigurationValue 1
> > iConfiguration  0 
> > bmAttributes 0x80
> >   (Bus Powered)
> > MaxPower  100mA
> > Interface Descriptor:
> >   bLength 9
> >   bDescriptorType 4
> >   bInterfaceNumber0
> >   bAlternateSetting   0
> >   bNumEndpoints   2
> >   bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
> >   bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
> >   bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
> >   iInterface  2 Debug Board for Neo1973
> >   Endpoint Descriptor:
> > bLength 7
> > bDescriptorType 5
> > bEndpointAddress 0x81  EP 1 IN
> > bmAttributes2
> >   Transfer TypeBulk
> >   Synch Type   None
> >   Usage Type   Data
> > wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
> > bInterval   0
> >   Endpoint Descriptor:
> > bLength 7
> > bDescriptorType 5
> > bEndpointAddress 0x02  EP 2 OUT
> > bmAttributes2
> >   Transfer TypeBulk
> >   Synch Type   None
> >   Usage Type   Data
> > wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
> > bInterval   0
> > Interface Descriptor:
> >   bLength 9
> >   bDescriptorType 4
> >   bInterfaceNumber1
> >   bAlternateSetting   0
> >   bNumEndpoints   2
> >   bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
> >   bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
> >

Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, October 28, 2008 a las 06:26:24AM -0400, Stefan Monnier 
escribió:

> > does this mean as well that I will get some map on my screen? is there some
> > interfacing for exmaple with this:
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=23.11725&lon=-82.42706&zoom=15&layers=B000FTF
> Yes, you'll get an openstreetmap, provided you are somehow connected to
> the internet.  The `locations' application is about as basic as
> it gets.  The next step up is TangoGPS, which is still very basic.
> There's also Navit (which offers routing), and lots more.

I have now installed and configured:

   # opkg install gpsd
   # opkg install http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.9.3-r1_armv4t.ipk

   # vi /etc/default/gpsd
   GPS_DEV="/dev/ttySAC1"

   # /etc/init.d/gpsd stop
   # /etc/init.d/gpsd start

because 'Locations' always claims that in can't find the Fix for my
actual location;

TangoGPS starts fine, connects to the 'gpsd' and downloads the maps
through the USB interface from Internet; sometimes is just segfaults :-(

I can't see if TangoGPS knows where I am;
how can I prove this if GSM is really working?

matthias

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Re: problem sometimes getting network connection to FR

[Xavier Cremaschi]

Workaround : suspend and resume

Xavier.


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problem sometimes getting network connection to FR

[joakim]

Sometimes when I connect my Freerunner to my Fedora 9 laptop I get
messages in dmesg like these:

hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3
usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 23
usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 24
usb 4-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 25
usb 4-1: device not accepting address 25, error -71
usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 26
usb 4-1: device not accepting address 26, error -71
hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1

then its impossible to get a network connection to the FR.

When I reboot the FR its normaly ok again.

What is the cause of this, and is it possible to work around?
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Re: debug board seems not working

[Armin ranjbar]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:01:40 +0800
Lin Mac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

you need to connect to DB using openocd ;)

> 
> hi,
> 
> I'm using Freerunner and debug board v3, and trying to use serial
> console, and Ubuntu 8.04 on my PC.
> 
> I have connected the FR and the debug board with the flexible cable.
> The /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 doesn't show up, but
> only /dev/ttyACM0, when I connected both USB of freerunner and debug
> board to PC, as described in
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3.
> 
> 1. Should the /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 show up while no FR
> connected to debug board (and the debug board connected to PC)?
> 2. Should I flash the debug board? 
> Any idea? 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> --
> dmesg result: 
> [22932.304312] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
> address 18 [22932.487138] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
> [22932.497342] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c:
> This device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem. [22932.497373]
> cdc_acm 5-2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device [22935.663858] usb 5-1: new
> full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 19 [22935.816913] usb
> 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [22935.818759] hub 5-1:1.0:
> USB hub found [22935.820674] hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
> [22936.137318] usb 5-1.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd
> and address 20 [22936.297399] usb 5-1.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> choice
> 
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb
> Bus 007 Device 001: ID :  
> Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. 
> Bus 006 Device 001: ID :  
> Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118  
> Bus 005 Device 021: ID 0451:2046 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2046 Hub
> Bus 005 Device 001: ID :  
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID :  
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID :  
> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. 
> Bus 004 Device 001: ID :  
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID :  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb -d 1457:5118 -v
> 
> Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118  
> Device Descriptor:
>   bLength18
>   bDescriptorType 1
>   bcdUSB   2.00
>   bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
>   bDeviceSubClass 0 
>   bDeviceProtocol 0 
>   bMaxPacketSize0 8
>   idVendor   0x1457 
>   idProduct  0x5118 
>   bcdDevice5.00
>   iManufacturer   1 OpenMoko
>   iProduct2 Debug Board for Neo1973
>   iSerial 0 
>   bNumConfigurations  1
>   Configuration Descriptor:
> bLength 9
> bDescriptorType 2
> wTotalLength   55
> bNumInterfaces  2
> bConfigurationValue 1
> iConfiguration  0 
> bmAttributes 0x80
>   (Bus Powered)
> MaxPower  100mA
> Interface Descriptor:
>   bLength 9
>   bDescriptorType 4
>   bInterfaceNumber0
>   bAlternateSetting   0
>   bNumEndpoints   2
>   bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
>   bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
>   bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
>   iInterface  2 Debug Board for Neo1973
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x81  EP 1 IN
> bmAttributes2
>   Transfer TypeBulk
>   Synch Type   None
>   Usage Type   Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
> bInterval   0
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x02  EP 2 OUT
> bmAttributes2
>   Transfer TypeBulk
>   Synch Type   None
>   Usage Type   Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
> bInterval   0
> Interface Descriptor:
>   bLength 9
>   bDescriptorType 4
>   bInterfaceNumber1
>   bAlternateSetting   0
>   bNumEndpoints   2
>   bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
>   bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
>   bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
>   iInterface  2 Debug Board for Neo1973
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x83  EP 3 IN
> bmAttributes2
>   Transfer TypeBulk
>   Synch Type   None
>   Usage Type   Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
> bInterval   0
>   Endpoint Descriptor:
>  

Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8

[Holger Freyther]

On Tuesday 28 October 2008 06:11:54 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

> also it seems to be not 'patched' in the view of contacts whenever it is
> called from the dialer ("person" icon) -- and that is the most often
> place where I look for contacts... now I will need to start contacts
> first I guess, heh heh
>
> or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-)

If you change the mentioned key Contacts and the Contact Selection Dialog will 
show the search bar. The Contact Selection didn't work because Trolltech copy 
and pasted the 80% of the same code to multiple places. So far we have found 
two and patches both of them (actually trevino spotted both).

does this answer your question?

z.



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Re: [FSO] QT Dbus connection to Gypsy

[Michael Tansella]

> Are you extracting the data out of the
> struct with the ">>" operators 

Thank you again for that hint:

For interested the way I implemented it:

Greets Michael

struct GPSSatellite{
int ID;
bool InUse;
unsigned int Elevation;
unsigned int Azimuth;
unsigned int SNR;
};

GPSSatellite SatellitesArray[32];
GPSSatellite Satellite;


void
MokoGPS::GetSatellites() 
{ 
QDBusMessage SatelliteReply;
SatelliteReply = GPSInterface->call("GetSatellites");
QList  args = SatelliteReply.arguments();
QVariant attrs = args[0];
const QDBusArgument arg = args[0].value  ();

arg.beginArray ();
NumberOfSats = 0;

while ( !arg.atEnd ()) {
NumberOfSats +=1; /// SatellitesArray[] beginnt bei 1
arg.beginArray ();
arg >> SatellitesArray[NumberOfSats].ID >> 
SatellitesArray[NumberOfSats].InUse >> 
SatellitesArray[NumberOfSats].Elevation >> 
SatellitesArray[NumberOfSats].Azimuth >> SatellitesArray[NumberOfSats].SNR;
arg.endArray ();
}
arg.endArray ();

qDebug() <<"Number of Satellites"<< NumberOfSats;

}



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Re: Android open sourced

[Nishit Dave]

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM, KaZeR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Joerg Lippmann a écrit :
>
> Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb Lorn Potter:
>
>
>  Jim Morris wrote:
>
>
>  Lorn Potter wrote:
>
>
>  Jim Morris wrote:
>
>
>  Cédric Berger wrote:
>
>
>  Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will
> always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected.
>
>
>  Oh I know it will get better, I was just disappointed it was less stable
> than the previous version.
>
>
>  We all were. The truth is, 4.4.1 was pushed out before it was ready. But it
> couldn't be helped.
>
>
>  Wouldn't it be great to release an intermediate version soon, in which the
> most severe UI-bugs are fixed (like the finger-scrolling/selection-Bug or the
> way-to-sensitive-keyboard where it's almost impossible to
> switch to special characters)? I'm quite sure it's just a matter of settings
> as it worked in the former version.
>
>
>  or the bouncing calypso and the echo fix.. It would be really nice.
>
>  See Lorn J.Potter's mail in support.  Qtextended 4.4.2 may be out
tomorrow and he will try to release Neo images along with it.
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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

[Pander]

I mean short interval and non disturbing logging top while doing normal
phone functions. Looking at top in a terminal and testing phone functions
do not go together easily. Any ideas?

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> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data
>> about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate
>> why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up.
>
> top?
>
> r
>
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Re: zhone patch: contacts from vcf was: Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS

[arne anka]

> If you think that's buried... help us, it's a wiki!

not as long as it requires to create an account -- i got far to much of  
those and do not intend to add to the list just to make some comments or  
corrections in a wiki.



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Re: zhone patch: contacts from vcf was: Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Monday 27 October 2008 14:10:53 schrieb Alastair Johnson:
> arne anka wrote:
> >> http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/index.htm
> >>l;hb=HEAD
> >
> > that one i was looking for -- none of the specific pages google lists has
> > a reference to this toc.
> >
> >> It's not an easy human-readable URL, but it is linked from the
> >> freesmartphone.org homepage, and it does give access to all the API docs
> >> I think.
> >
> > it has been sometime since i looked, but back then there was no link on
> > the wiki (at least non easily found) and i never cared to look again.
> > instead i asked 3 times at the smartphone-lists and never got an answer.
>
> I had expected to find the mailing list details easily, but they are
> burried on the Tutorials page!

? http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Infrastructure

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Re: [Om2008.9] found the best gsmhandset.state file in FDOmizer

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, October 28, 2008 a las 06:09:24PM +0800, John Lee escribió:

> okay let's give it a try.  merged into om svn and will be used as the
> default gsmhandset.state in the next build.
> 
> the qtopia echo patch along with this state file still leaves a little
> echo and buzzing, but doesn't really effect the talking.

Yes, I have checked it as well in the cellphone of my wife who called me
from my FR. The called person (i.e. I) was hearing echo of his own
speaking; this went fully away by lowering in control.4 the values from
116 to 100:

control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
value.0 100 <**
value.1 100 <**
}

now it's really fine, only a bit of buzzing but this is nearly
unimportant;

matthias


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Re: zhone patch: contacts from vcf was: Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Monday 27 October 2008 13:28:17 schrieb arne anka:
> > http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/index.html
> >;hb=HEAD
>
> that one i was looking for -- none of the specific pages google lists has
> a reference to this toc.
>
> > It's not an easy human-readable URL, but it is linked from the
> > freesmartphone.org homepage, and it does give access to all the API docs
> > I think.
>
> it has been sometime since i looked, but back then there was no link on
> the wiki (at least non easily found) and i never cared to look again.
> instead i asked 3 times at the smartphone-lists and never got an answer.

Perhaps my mails to land in your spamfolder, but I'm sure I've given 
docs.freesmartphone.org a bunch of time as answer.

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What files do I install to get audio. in testing

[William Kenworthy]

Ive been trying testing out and after 3 days, Ive finally gotten a pin
dialog and was able to register.  However, what files do I need to
install to get audio.  On one flash I installed everything alsa and was
able to stream audio via mplayer, but still none in the dialler.  I am
after a minimal set of files to simply testing each version out so I
just want to know the minimum needed to get it to work.

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Re: Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?

[John Lee]

Hi,

We will still do a 2008.11 release so it will be in stable soon.  If
you don't to wait, you can switch to testing repo.

Regards,
John

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:06:34AM +0100, umaxx wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:47:03 +0800
> John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Now for the status update this week:
> > 
> > Tick merged the qtopia echo patch (#1267), it works, no echo but the
> > audio sounds a little bit less 'vivid' (not sure if this is the right
> > word).  He is now working on the touch screen usage, see
> > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002712.html
> 
> Will this patch went into stable too? Or did I need to upgrade to
> testing for this?
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: [Om2008.9] found the best gsmhandset.state file in FDOmizer

[John Lee]

okay let's give it a try.  merged into om svn and will be used as the
default gsmhandset.state in the next build.

the qtopia echo patch along with this state file still leaves a little
echo and buzzing, but doesn't really effect the talking.


Regards,
John


On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 01:16:42PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Since I own my FR I've already tested a lot of variants of the
> gsmhandset.state file; today I got to know of the FDOMizer project and
> pulled out the version of their tar file FDOMizer20081023.tar.gz; this
> is the best I have ever had until today: no echo, very clear and high
> volume on both ends (my wife asked me in a call if I have finally
> changed my opinion and have returned to normal cellphone :-)). There is
> still some buzzing, for both ends, but this is not so important.
> 
> Just to let you know.
> 
>   matthias
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Re: [FSO] config utility

[Alastair Johnson]

Alastair Johnson wrote:
> The FSO API is capable of a good deal more than is exposed by GUI in the 
> releases so far. This utility is an attempt to do something useful while 
> finding out about python, gtk, dbus and fso. It's not pretty, or an 
> example of good coding practise!
> 
> * GPRS networking - Start and stop, shows current status. Default values 
> are currently hardcoded, but can be changed in the GUI. I will add 
> saving when I find out how to use the FSO Preferences interface.
> * GSM - currently informational for status and visible providers.
> * Screen - control brightness, resolution and orientation. uses xrandr 
> for resolution and orientation as AFAIK there is no FSO interface for these.
> 
> You will need python-pygtk to use this. I've been using it on 
> fso-testing but it should work with SHR and debian too.
> 
> http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/tools/fso/fso-config-util.py

I've added provider registration control. You can now select automatic 
registration, manually register to a specific provider, or unregister.

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Re: Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?

[umaxx]

Hi,

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:47:03 +0800
John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now for the status update this week:
> 
> Tick merged the qtopia echo patch (#1267), it works, no echo but the
> audio sounds a little bit less 'vivid' (not sure if this is the right
> word).  He is now working on the touch screen usage, see
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002712.html

Will this patch went into stable too? Or did I need to upgrade to
testing for this?

Regards,

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Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)

[Kishore]

On Tuesday 28 Oct 2008 1:43:09 pm Richy wrote:
> qtextended an one mwester-kernel had standby-time of several days, if you
> never turn on wifi

My experience matches this and it gives me hope that it is indeed possible to 
make the FR battery last longer. Typically, with about 10-15 mins of talking 
per day, I loose about one bar for 24 hrs! Sot that's about 3 to 4 days of 
battery life! But then sometimes (just sometimes) that it does not suspend 
automatically and battery drains rapidly. There is no way to manually suspend 
the FR (without the CLI) and reboot is the only way to set that straight. If 
you turn on wifi once, it appears that it does not really turn off ever until a 
reboot and again battery drains rapidly.

I find qtextended very usable as a daily phone; now only if it would default to 
headset instead of speaker phone when answering calls... :(
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Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8

[David Samblas]

El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 16:50 +1000, nick d. escribió:
> Hmm i found that too Yaroslav. Would definitely be handy. Also the
> keyboard is almost incompatible. When you type in a name and select
> it, the keyboard puts in a space character which yields no results
> until you backspace. Is there a way to get the keyboard to lose
> predictive text so it can sort on the fly?
I'm using the illume terminal keyboard for that, but as I remember if
you maintain a key for a few , it will override the "predictive thing"
and put directly that letter. 
> 
> -nick
> 
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > ps : well , fdom is not V om , those guys are working on
> stability thing ,
> > > we are working on feature , funny , fat and dirty things!
> > One of those dirty things is change config files, the
> standard 2008.9
> > has this feature you only have tell it to not be so shy and
> show it :)
> > If you look at the FDOMizer. script you will find all the
> dirty thing we
> > have done to it :)
> 
> according to git log and
> 
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commitlog/2008-September/006060.html
> 
> holger enabled it in qtopia build in september ... but for
> some reason
> it wasn't enabled by default
> 
> also it seems to be not 'patched' in the view of contacts
> whenever it is
> called from the dialer ("person" icon) -- and that is the most
> often
> place where I look for contacts... now I will need to start
> contacts
> first I guess, heh heh
> 
> or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-)
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debug board seems not working

[Lin Mac]

hi,

I'm using Freerunner and debug board v3, and trying to use serial console, and 
Ubuntu 8.04 on my PC.

I have connected the FR and the debug board with the flexible cable. The 
/dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 doesn't show up, but only /dev/ttyACM0, when I 
connected both USB of freerunner and debug board to PC, as described in 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3.

1. Should the /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 show up while no FR connected to 
debug board (and the debug board connected to PC)?
2. Should I flash the debug board? 
Any idea? 

Thanks in advance.

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dmesg result: 
[22932.304312] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and 
address 18
[22932.487138] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
[22932.497342] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: This 
device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem.
[22932.497373] cdc_acm 5-2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[22935.663858] usb 5-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and 
address 19
[22935.816913] usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[22935.818759] hub 5-1:1.0: USB hub found
[22935.820674] hub 5-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
[22936.137318] usb 5-1.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and 
address 20
[22936.297399] usb 5-1.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

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Bus 007 Device 001: ID :  
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. 
Bus 006 Device 001: ID :  
Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118  
Bus 005 Device 021: ID 0451:2046 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2046 Hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID :  
Bus 002 Device 001: ID :  
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :  
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. 
Bus 004 Device 001: ID :  
Bus 003 Device 001: ID :  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb -d 1457:5118 -v

Bus 005 Device 022: ID 1457:5118  
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   2.00
  bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass 0 
  bDeviceProtocol 0 
  bMaxPacketSize0 8
  idVendor   0x1457 
  idProduct  0x5118 
  bcdDevice5.00
  iManufacturer   1 OpenMoko
  iProduct2 Debug Board for Neo1973
  iSerial 0 
  bNumConfigurations  1
  Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength   55
bNumInterfaces  2
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration  0 
bmAttributes 0x80
  (Bus Powered)
MaxPower  100mA
Interface Descriptor:
  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4
  bInterfaceNumber0
  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   2
  bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
  bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
  bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
  iInterface  2 Debug Board for Neo1973
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81  EP 1 IN
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
bInterval   0
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x02  EP 2 OUT
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
bInterval   0
Interface Descriptor:
  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4
  bInterfaceNumber1
  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   2
  bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
  bInterfaceSubClass255 Vendor Specific Subclass
  bInterfaceProtocol255 Vendor Specific Protocol
  iInterface  2 Debug Board for Neo1973
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x83  EP 3 IN
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
bInterval   0
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x04  EP 4 OUT
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
bInterval 

Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, October 28, 2008 a las 04:37:24AM -0400, Stefan Monnier 
escribió:

> > The next think I want to try is using GPS on my FR with Om2008.9.
> > I've never used GPS before and so I'm a bit lost in how to do with FR
> > :-)
> > The desktop has an icon 'Locations' and by launching it it asks me if I
> > want to switch-o GPS, I press 'yes' and then nothing more happens, there
> > is only a map with a red dot in Asia. What to do next?
> 
> That's it.  All you need to do next is wait for the GPS to "get a first
> fix".  This may take a minute or so if you're in an outside open area
> with a nice view of the sky, and it may take forever (literally) if
> you're in a building, or if the GPS antenna (which is located at the
> top of your FR) is buried in your coat pocket or facing towards
> the earth.

I was in a building when I tried this last night; will test it outside
again (when it stops raining here :-));

> You only need to be that careful in order to get the first fix.
> Afterwards, you can go about your business, put the FR in a pocket,
> etc and the GPS will keep track of your movements.

does this mean as well that I will get some map on my screen? is there some
interfacing for exmaple with this:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=23.11725&lon=-82.42706&zoom=15&layers=B000FTF

Thx for your help

matthias

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Re: [Om2008.9] How to use GPS?

[Stefan Monnier]

> The next think I want to try is using GPS on my FR with Om2008.9.
> I've never used GPS before and so I'm a bit lost in how to do with FR
> :-)
> The desktop has an icon 'Locations' and by launching it it asks me if I
> want to switch-o GPS, I press 'yes' and then nothing more happens, there
> is only a map with a red dot in Asia. What to do next?

That's it.  All you need to do next is wait for the GPS to "get a first
fix".  This may take a minute or so if you're in an outside open area
with a nice view of the sky, and it may take forever (literally) if
you're in a building, or if the GPS antenna (which is located at the
top of your FR) is buried in your coat pocket or facing towards
the earth.

You only need to be that careful in order to get the first fix.
Afterwards, you can go about your business, put the FR in a pocket,
etc and the GPS will keep track of your movements.


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Re: GPS sensitivity

[Stefan Monnier]

> agps-onlinec -c full -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -k Fvhcv -la 35.22 -lo -79.46 -al
> 250 -p 100.00 &
[...]
> provided the location data prefed to agps-onlinec and the current time
> (system clock) are accurate enough. (clock doesn't need to be
> second-precise, but if it's off several hours or more then you've got

If you have some kind of regular IP connectivity, then your clock offset
should easily stay well within 1s (using an ntp daemon).


Stefan


PS: BTW, thank you all for your answers.  I now see that my experience
with my FR is simply normal so I shouldn't try and waste any time
figuring out what might be wrong with it.  I don't even need aGPS for my
intended use of the GPS (mostly for OSM).


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Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)

[Richy]

I haven't missed any calls yet.
However, when i suspend manually (pressing the power button)
and want to  wake the phone up manually, it turns on for half a second and
than off again. I always need to press the power button again.
(Also, it doesn't seem to make much difference)

qtextended an one mwester-kernel had standby-time of several days, if you
never turn on wifi

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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data
> about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate
> why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up.

top?

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Re: Opkg how to?

[Michael Tansella]

> I've read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opkg seems ok enough, but id like
> to make them aviable to everyone, how?

Hi,

You can publish theom on

http://www.opkg.org/

Greets
Michael

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Re: Android open sourced

[nick d.]

Sign up to Koolu's forum [1] and see what's going on there. Cfriedt also has
a spreadsheet of progress that seems to have been updated frequently [2].
Last time I check there were a few to go but now, not so much. See also [3].

Nick

1. http://forum.koolu.org/
2. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pzDEXnU19gkeTjpD28t-7fw
3. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android


See also:

http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1361683

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Peter Neubauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi there,
> is there any progress on the porting of Android to the FR yet? Are
> updates posted to this list, since it seems pretty quite around the
> port?
>
> Cheers
>
> /peter
>
> http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone.
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Re: Android open sourced

[Peter Neubauer]

Hi there,
is there any progress on the porting of Android to the FR yet? Are
updates posted to this list, since it seems pretty quite around the
port?

Cheers

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jan Prinsloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: Android open sourced

[KaZeR]

Joerg Lippmann a écrit :

Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb Lorn Potter:
  

Jim Morris wrote:


Lorn Potter wrote:
  

Jim Morris wrote:


Cédric Berger wrote:
  

Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will
always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected.


Oh I know it will get better, I was just disappointed it was less stable
than the previous version.
  

We all were. The truth is, 4.4.1 was pushed out before it was ready. But it
couldn't be helped.



Wouldn't it be great to release an intermediate version soon, in which the 
most severe UI-bugs are fixed (like the finger-scrolling/selection-Bug or the 
way-to-sensitive-keyboard where it's almost impossible to 
switch to special characters)? I'm quite sure it's just a matter of settings 
as it worked in the former version.
  

or the bouncing calypso and the echo fix.. It would be really nice.

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opkg.org and neo1973-germany.de

[Risto H. Kurppa]

I see that some great software has been done in Germany. Would it be
possible to add these to opkg.org to get bigger audience and user
base?

r

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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

[Pander]

What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data
about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate
why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up.


Leonti Bielski wrote:
> I think something is lowing down FDOM, maybe this is gestures daemon
> (someone at some point said it eats a lot of CPU power)?
> And another thing - it takes years to login via ssh to Freerunner with FDOM.
> With other distributions I just enter 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> when it asks for password.
> But with FDOM I actually have to wait till it gives me password promt.
> This happens not only with the lates distribution but with all FDOM I tried.
> But I still use sometimes to check for new things available for Freerunner.
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