Re: battery life with QtMoko
So this is how you suspend the phone, with manual lock :) I was thinking you use power button to suspend it. I don't want to lose 2 hours of suspend just because I talk 10 minutes with the screen on. Other applications, like chess and fbreader can block (?) screen dimming. As for autounlocking when receiving a call/sms, I think is a bad ideea, but I don't know what can be done without coding. On 6/24/11, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Thursday 23 June 2011 20:46:10 Noel wrote: This is with default settings, which are very dangerous: in power management, when not plugged, the policy for 'dim light' is off, for 'display off' is off and for 'suspend' is off. This means that any unnoticed sms or missed call will keep the screen on. I can change these settings, but it bothers me that any event will unlock the screen, the neo can make phone calls in my pocket or the touchscreen will stay active while walking with no chance to autosuspend. If you lock the screen it should always suspend after 20s. I am using QtMoko with default values and i has worked quite nice so far and on the other hand i am not bothered with screen dimming e.g. when reading or playing chess. It's quite hard/impossible to set defaults so that everyone is happy. But any suggestions are welcome. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery life with QtMoko
I've started to keep NeoControl running all the time. With my deepsleep/fixed phone, on resume I see the current between 12000-24000 (2.6.34/qtmoko). With my old battery showing 857000 for current full, I guess it could sleep between 35 and 72 hours. The problem is that when active, the current is between 25-35, about 2.5-3.5 hours. If I keep the screen on (talking or not) for 20-30 minutes, which is not uncommon, I have no chance to use the phone the next day without charging it. This is with default settings, which are very dangerous: in power management, when not plugged, the policy for 'dim light' is off, for 'display off' is off and for 'suspend' is off. This means that any unnoticed sms or missed call will keep the screen on. I can change these settings, but it bothers me that any event will unlock the screen, the neo can make phone calls in my pocket or the touchscreen will stay active while walking with no chance to autosuspend. On 6/9/11, Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de wrote: Does anybody has flashed the latest QtMoko and can report something about battery standby time ? I remember Radek mention a serious improvment. thanks, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Firmware Flashed, now UBIFS problem and Kernel Panic
Anyway it could be a problem related to ubifs instability, which is a topic recently discussed in mailing list [1]. You can follow that tread and try to: I don't think it's releated to ubifs stability. It happens to me every time I boot from SD card with a linux kernel different (at least older) then qtmoko/v31/nand one. Who changes root partition (nand) in this case? Qi? The kernel from SD card, even if it doesn't know about ubifs format? And for what? To change a mount counter or last mount time? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v31
On 12/31/10, Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz wrote: BTW ... I§m the only one having difficulties using USB host mode in v31? I don't know about USB host mode, but I can't use usb mass storage with v31. Module g_ether is 'always' busy :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone?
Thanks for pointing me to android, but after almost 2 months I can tell you that android is as stable as qtmoko v16, meaning that I have to restart it weakly. Of course, android it's more polished and has a faster with UI, but it is also faster in discharging the battery :) After having tried om200[89], shr, qtopia and android, with the same result, it seams that 'my problem' is hardware, kerneldrivers and/or modem/firmware related. I'll do the caps fixes, retry qtopia (or shr, or android 2.x), and if it will work the same, I'll give up on FR, as I'm already annoyed most of those who talk with me. On 3/28/10, Martin Šenkeřík martinsenke...@gmail.com wrote: I can recomend you android. I was looking for reliable phone, I tried everything, and my last try - android is total winner. Give it a try. ohin On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Noel noe2...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.com wrote: Which one did you try until now? om2008, om2009, shr, qtopia/radek. If l look at the forum posts lately and your requirements you may try neophysis which seems to have very basic phone functions implemented. Being lazy, I wanted a confirmation :) from someone who tried. You could also have a try with android, however imho the advantages of our device are not exploited with android. Freerunner is not just a phone or pda :) I'm afraid is not even a phone yet, as its soul (software) is haunted :) On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Noel noe2...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody knows a kernel and a basic phone application that work with Neo Freerunner? When I say 'work', I mean the phone: - doesn't have to be restarted daily/weekly[/montly] - it is 100% reliable on making and receiving voice calls - it is 100% reliable on sending and receiving sms (even some are not displayed well, like unicode characters, 'multipart' messages, etc.) - doesn't have to suspend if it can be used 'modestly' at least 20 hours without charging The kernel doesn't have to be Linux. The phone application doesn't have to be open source as long as it can be downloaded without paying. No need of a virtual keyboard, except for writing a phone number that will be called. If the address book can be edited with a text editor or from command line it will be fine. Currently, I use Radek's build, but the phone (or qtopia) has to be restarted from time to time: it is slow on handling the voice calls, and if the modem has to do more then one operation, like closing a voice call while somebody else is calling or I receive a sms, it may go in a state in which I cannot make a voice call. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)
On 4/4/10, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote: I am afraid it is still draining the battery. I can use my FR for about 8~10 hours with Android - current featured release. It seams like the Dialer will do this, if left unclosed. I'm not sure. It seems you're doing something ugly wrong. The user is not doing anything wrong, Google is. This is because of how Android handles closing applications. When you close an app, it disappears from your desktop, but the application keeps running. Thanks Niels. I don't care *who* does something wrong. I just search for a way to use Neo as an ordinary phone (not missing any call/SMS) first. Someone might tell me that I do wrong using a phone instead of face to face communication :). It may be true from a point of view. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)
On 4/1/10, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] Last night it just keep charging. It was on 100%, so I just unplug it. In the morning, when I connected the charger, it booted (?!). I checked the battery level and it was 4%. Next time I'll try to use Cleanoid to see if it still drain the battery. I am afraid it is still draining the battery. I can use my FR for about 8~10 hours with Android - current featured release. It seams like the Dialer will do this, if left unclosed. I'm not sure. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Martin Šenkeřík martinsenke...@gmail.com wrote: I can recomend you android. I was looking for reliable phone, I tried everything, and my last try - android is total winner. Give it a try. Thanks. It looks much faster and nicer then what I've tried so far. It's too soon to talk about how stable it is. Last night it just keep charging. It was on 100%, so I just unplug it. In the morning, when I connected the charger, it booted (?!). I checked the battery level and it was 4%. Next time I'll try to use Cleanoid to see if it still drain the battery. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Is Neo Freerunner a phone?
Does anybody knows a kernel and a basic phone application that work with Neo Freerunner? When I say 'work', I mean the phone: - doesn't have to be restarted daily/weekly[/montly] - it is 100% reliable on making and receiving voice calls - it is 100% reliable on sending and receiving sms (even some are not displayed well, like unicode characters, 'multipart' messages, etc.) - doesn't have to suspend if it can be used 'modestly' at least 20 hours without charging The kernel doesn't have to be Linux. The phone application doesn't have to be open source as long as it can be downloaded without paying. No need of a virtual keyboard, except for writing a phone number that will be called. If the address book can be edited with a text editor or from command line it will be fine. Currently, I use Radek's build, but the phone (or qtopia) has to be restarted from time to time: it is slow on handling the voice calls, and if the modem has to do more then one operation, like closing a voice call while somebody else is calling or I receive a sms, it may go in a state in which I cannot make a voice call. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone?
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.com wrote: Which one did you try until now? om2008, om2009, shr, qtopia/radek. If l look at the forum posts lately and your requirements you may try neophysis which seems to have very basic phone functions implemented. Being lazy, I wanted a confirmation :) from someone who tried. You could also have a try with android, however imho the advantages of our device are not exploited with android. Freerunner is not just a phone or pda :) I'm afraid is not even a phone yet, as its soul (software) is haunted :) On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Noel noe2...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody knows a kernel and a basic phone application that work with Neo Freerunner? When I say 'work', I mean the phone: - doesn't have to be restarted daily/weekly[/montly] - it is 100% reliable on making and receiving voice calls - it is 100% reliable on sending and receiving sms (even some are not displayed well, like unicode characters, 'multipart' messages, etc.) - doesn't have to suspend if it can be used 'modestly' at least 20 hours without charging The kernel doesn't have to be Linux. The phone application doesn't have to be open source as long as it can be downloaded without paying. No need of a virtual keyboard, except for writing a phone number that will be called. If the address book can be edited with a text editor or from command line it will be fine. Currently, I use Radek's build, but the phone (or qtopia) has to be restarted from time to time: it is slow on handling the voice calls, and if the modem has to do more then one operation, like closing a voice call while somebody else is calling or I receive a sms, it may go in a state in which I cannot make a voice call. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo FreeRunner a phone?
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Which version of the Calypso firmware are you using? If it is less than moko11, I suggest upgrading to moko11. Maybe your modem problems have already been fixed. It's moko11. Doesn't have deep sleep fix, yet. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
On 1/18/10, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Noel wrote: I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get maps? Download all the maps you need once when you're online. Tangogps will work fine offline after that. (The same goes for navit - you have to give it a map to work with. Tangogps merely has the option of downloading maps when needed.) I use gps apps when I'm in an **unexpected** position/place. Otherwise, I can look on a paper map or on Internet a couple hours before. The 512mb sd card received with neo is enough to keep a navit map (downloaded 'very' fast) to cover my daily 'unexpected' routes. I can't say the same for tangogps. This doesn't mean that I don't use it. Last time was 7 months ago, when I've been a little 'adventurous' on an uncharted (by osm) area. I used the tracking feature of tangogps to get back from where I started :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR
On 1/8/10, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: So Im back to my waiting position. In a year or so, my decision will be crystal-clear;-) Just don't hold your breath :) In one year you will have more devices to choose from. Do you remember when there was only iPhone and Neo? :) You know the past, you see the present, you see the trend. Isn't the future obvious? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get maps? You said that tango is very fast and very efficient at displaying your position. What's the use if the position is displayed on an empty map? On 1/8/10, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Hi, Le 08/01/2010 09:31, dehqan65 a écrit : 2 - In which issues Tangogps is better than Navit ? IMO, they both serve different purposes. Tango use raster maps. It's very fast and very efficient at displaying your position and/or track on a raster map. Navit use vector maps. Maps are drawn in realtime, which makes it a bit slower. But this allows routing and turn by turn directions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
