Re: [all] Car charger
Am So 26. April 2009 schrieb Al Johnson: On the DIY front mini-b plugs with all pins available are hard to find in small quantities, in the UK at least. Has anyone found a source? See http://www.partsdata.de/USB_Mini-B-Verlaengerung_Kabel_1m_CU-XB05-10.html /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[all] Car charger
David, You have a car charger in your shop: http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=44 Does this have the appropriate resistor to allow the FR to automatically select a higher charging rate? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] Car charger
On Sunday 26 April 2009, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: David, You have a car charger in your shop: http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=44 Does this have the appropriate resistor to allow the FR to automatically select a higher charging rate? Since it talks about plugging a USB cable into it it can't have the resistor as there's no pin on that end of the cable for it to connect to. You would need a charger with a captive lead and mini-b plug like the mains charger has for it to include the resistor. On the DIY front mini-b plugs with all pins available are hard to find in small quantities, in the UK at least. Has anyone found a source? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] Car charger
2009/4/26 Jeffrey Ratcliffe jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com: David, You have a car charger in your shop: http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=44 Does this have the appropriate resistor to allow the FR to automatically select a higher charging rate? As far as I know it only provides 500mA, as a normal desktop computer will do. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
TomTom Carcharger reported to just work and other car charger issues ...
Hi, today I have read about the car charger compatibility List that TomTom car charger (4N00.007) will just work. http://www.1a-handyshop.de/kfzladekabel-miniusb-1224v-tomtom-live-live-live-4n7-original-tomtom-p-89928.html http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger So I wonder, that tomtom includes a car charger in the package as other do and openmoko didn't do so. Why does openmoko did not sell one after it has proven to work to give a warranty ? Wouldn't that stop all these car charger postings ? Another option would be universal car to USB (A) charger like this: http://www.handhirn.de/kfz-ladeadapter-fuer-usb-kabel-2-ampere-a1106.html?ref=shopinfo Another idea would be an adapter (USB (A) female to USB (A) male) that contains a switch to activate the ID resistor or simply with that resistor. I think, this adapter will be very cheap and could be packaged with the FR using such an 2A Kfz USB adapter. Another adapter seems to not fit into my cigarette jack (Hama USB-Kfz- Ladegerät 'Pico'). At least not in my Volvo V40 :-) http://www.hama.de/portal/searchSelectedProduct*NO/articleId*166923/action*2563/searchMode*1/bySearch*00014094 It may fit in other cars, but the adapter form doesn't look like a cigarette plug. There may be similar in other countries. Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Car Charger?
On Jan 15, 2009 6:21pm, Josh Thompson om-c...@joshandbianca.net wrote: http://www.extremepda.com/AUTOMOUNT-GN-LG.html This looks very good. Can anyone recommend anything similar available in Germany? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Car Charger?
This looks very good. Can anyone recommend anything similar available in Germany? almost every cheap mobile shop or 99ct shop should have those available. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Car Charger?
I bought a generic iPod charger at a car accessory shop for about £2, works like a charm. This specific one doesn't have a USB cable, but it takes a normal FR cable. They probably overcharged me even at that price-point... On Fri, January 16, 2009 10:27, arne anka wrote: This looks very good. Can anyone recommend anything similar available in Germany? almost every cheap mobile shop or 99ct shop should have those available. -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday January 04, 2009, lollisoft wrote: Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to place the phone when driving with navigation. This could also have a built in car charger :-) I use this this model: http://www.extremepda.com/AUTOMOUNT-GN-LG.html It has a 9 flexible gooseneck mount and suctions to the windshield. With the feet switched to the other end from the default configuration (i.e. making the release button on the top end), it works out that the headphone jack and the USB jack can be accessed through the holes in the arms. Josh -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJb3C8V/LQcNdtPQMRAi3iAJ0WiNxWCALYXpbr5dFlx7cMUk2evQCeMXb2 027gwcUPBu8XnXQ2WEB2How= =FPei -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution (was: Car Charger?)
Hi all, After talking with Christoph from Pulster we thought I'd share my car holder solution to everyone :) Attached you can find the photos of my car holder. Basically, the whole thing did only cost me 5€ (~3 USD), but I had to modify it slightly for the FR (explanation bellow). I bought it from a local store here in Spain, called El Corte Inglés. Basically, it's a cheap mobile holder which you can get in every store and which is attached to the air duct covers. The problem I had was that the FR has it's buttons and USB port at the bottom and the holder comes designed to hold the mobile at the bottom ;) It has two pieces: One that attaches to the car, and the other which holds the mobile. I just flipped the whole thing over, so it holds the FR at the top. But then with the vibrations it would come off so I just glued the two pieces together. (Photos will explain what I mean :P) [1] [2] [3] [1] http://www.relamp.tk/freerunner/100_0014.jpg [2] http://www.relamp.tk/freerunner/100_0015.jpg [3] http://www.relamp.tk/freerunner/100_0018.jpg -- Benedikt www.relamp.tk This e-mail is digitally signed by a PGP key, to verify it's authenticity. If you received this e-mail without key the e-mail may not be authentic. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution (was: Car Charger?)
The problem I had was that the FR has it's buttons and USB port at the bottom and the holder comes designed to hold the mobile at the bottom ;) It has two pieces: One that attaches to the car, and the other which holds the mobile. I just flipped the whole thing over, so it holds the FR at the top. But then with the vibrations it would come off so I just glued the two pieces together. It would be nice to ask X11 to rotate everything 180 degrees. Then the top of the Openmoko would become the bottom. Sounds like a good application of the accelerometer to me. md -- Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: mad...@li.org 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association Board Member Emeritus: USENIX Association (2000-2006) (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution (was: Car Charger?)
Hi Jon, On Tue, January 13, 2009 14:34, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: It would be nice to ask X11 to rotate everything 180 degrees. Then the top of the Openmoko would become the bottom. Sounds like a good application of the accelerometer to me. Yes, that could be a solution. In fact, in the Om2008 repos there is just such a tool, called accel-rotate. However, I find it mildly irritating, since it does not limit rotation to one portrait and one landscape display modes, it can rotate the screen in all 4 directions. In some applications this could actually be a very neat thing, depending on for instance the type of holder you have to clasp your FR. Thusly, if you can only put your FR into a holder upside down due to buttons/cables/whatever, then accell-rotate will allow you to do just that. -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution (was: Car Charger?)
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 09:34 -0500, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: The problem I had was that the FR has it's buttons and USB port at the bottom and the holder comes designed to hold the mobile at the bottom ;) It has two pieces: One that attaches to the car, and the other which holds the mobile. I just flipped the whole thing over, so it holds the FR at the top. But then with the vibrations it would come off so I just glued the two pieces together. It would be nice to ask X11 to rotate everything 180 degrees. Then the top of the Openmoko would become the bottom. Sounds like a good application of the accelerometer to me. True, this could be a solution, however I like my FR to be in the right orientation. Besides the fix was quite simple and the holder quite cheap :) Benedikt md signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Try forcing it to 500ma using one of the battery.py scripts on the wiki. I used a car charger yesterday (650ma) that didnt even show as plugged in until I forced it to 500ma and then it was fine. However, its useless for jump starting/trickle charging as the phone must be up to turn it on - as I found out when the battery drained ... :( BillK On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 14:40 +, Vasco Névoa wrote: Well... not exactly. I bought a Trust car lighter adapter (5V/1A) with its own cable, and it doesn't charge the freerunner. After reading all this, I think it must be the cable. I'm going to try with a standard cable instead of the supplied one. The supplied cable is very handy, it has all kinds of optional plugs for many kinds of phone and gadget; because of this, it has only power lines going through it, and no data lines at all (it's got a small plug with only 2 contacts where the other adapter plugs connect). I'll let you know... Citando Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net: Thanks for all the answers guys, looks like I can grab any old USB charger, 5V/2A being preferable. And a GPS style wndscreen mount would be useful. I'm sure I can find something though. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Car-Charger--tp2106770p2112932.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Citando Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: Shouldn't it have to be 2A ? Why should it? If the FR can charge at 3 different rates (100, 500, 1000mA), any charger that can give 500 or 1000mA is good enough... it all depends on how much time you want to wait for a charge... ;) I tested it right now, and it does charge. The problem is that this Trust car cigarette lighter USB charger does not have the ID pin resistor [1]. Even when using a standard USB-to-miniUSB cable the FR recognizes the charger as a 100mA host port (and charges at 100mA, which is not good enough). So I used the sysfs entries in [2] to force it to 500mA and 1000mA and all went well - it can charge just fine, but has to be forced because there is no auto detection. So now I just install the usb charging control scripts in [2]... :) [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode Happy hacking! Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
On Monday 05 January 2009, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:40:34PM +, Vasco Névoa wrote: I bought a Trust car lighter adapter (5V/1A) with its own cable, and it doesn't charge the freerunner. Shouldn't it have to be 2A ? Rui That depends on what you're going to do with it. The phone itself won't draw more than 1A but if the phone is charging while in host mode the charger may need to supply 0.5A to the USB device(s) too. Note that as the chargers are unlikely to have the 47k resistor on the ID pin you will probably have to set the charge rate to 500mA or 1A as explained in the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Well... not exactly. I bought a Trust car lighter adapter (5V/1A) with its own cable, and it doesn't charge the freerunner. After reading all this, I think it must be the cable. I'm going to try with a standard cable instead of the supplied one. The supplied cable is very handy, it has all kinds of optional plugs for many kinds of phone and gadget; because of this, it has only power lines going through it, and no data lines at all (it's got a small plug with only 2 contacts where the other adapter plugs connect). I'll let you know... Citando Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net: Thanks for all the answers guys, looks like I can grab any old USB charger, 5V/2A being preferable. And a GPS style wndscreen mount would be useful. I'm sure I can find something though. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Car-Charger--tp2106770p2112932.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Thanks for all the answers guys, looks like I can grab any old USB charger, 5V/2A being preferable. And a GPS style wndscreen mount would be useful. I'm sure I can find something though. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Car-Charger--tp2106770p2112932.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:40:34PM +, Vasco Névoa wrote: I bought a Trust car lighter adapter (5V/1A) with its own cable, and it doesn't charge the freerunner. Shouldn't it have to be 2A ? Rui -- Hail Eris! Today is Setting Orange, the 5th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 Celebrate Mungday + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? USB Car Adapter from http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.688 is only $2.58 and works for me. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 03:06 -0800, lollisoft wrote: Just an idea, I haven't seen quickly which car charger or other charger works without more than yust pluging it into the USB slot. A table stating this would be quite good :-) Using the 12V/220V converter is another option - even a more universal one :-) Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to place the phone when driving with navigation. This could also have a built in car charger :-) Thanks Lothar I just bought a cheap car charger which has a USB slot, and I must say it works very well with the FreeRunner. As a bonus, I can also charge my other Samsung phone with it (with the USB data cable that came with it :)) Then I also bought a cheap (5 €) mobile holder for the car - modified it slightly and now it holds my FR for GPS navigation and I can still plug in the charger, so that the display doesn't dim while navigating ;). Benedikt Olivier Berger wrote: Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Hi. I suppose that you might find interesting hints (or improve it when you've found what you need) in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger I myself used this model : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#sold_as_.22Essentiel_b_.28Boulanger.29.22_Chargeur_allume-cigares.2FUSB but I assume you won't find the same in an australian store :( Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Hi. I suppose that you might find interesting hints (or improve it when you've found what you need) in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger I myself used this model : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#sold_as_.22Essentiel_b_.28Boulanger.29.22_Chargeur_allume-cigares.2FUSB but I assume you won't find the same in an australian store :( Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Just an idea, I haven't seen quickly which car charger or other charger works without more than yust pluging it into the USB slot. A table stating this would be quite good :-) Using the 12V/220V converter is another option - even a more universal one :-) Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to place the phone when driving with navigation. This could also have a built in car charger :-) Thanks Lothar Olivier Berger wrote: Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Hi. I suppose that you might find interesting hints (or improve it when you've found what you need) in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger I myself used this model : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#sold_as_.22Essentiel_b_.28Boulanger.29.22_Chargeur_allume-cigares.2FUSB but I assume you won't find the same in an australian store :( Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Car-Charger--tp2106770p2108815.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to place the phone when driving I've used a very simple solution for a docking station. I just stuck a piece of velcro on my dashboard and I strap my FR onto it through the hole in the casing near the mic. I have to flip the display (xrandr -o 2) but its been working great for me. So does a standard USB car charger from ebay. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Car Charger?
In about 9 or 20 months I intend to stop working for a few months and drive around the continent of australia. A GPS device would be good for this. Given that this functionality is coming along ok, that by then we should (hopefully!) have fairly stable operation, and that freerunner battery life is probably never going to be more than a few hours with GPS running Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Car-Charger--tp2106770p2106770.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 11:57:19AM -0800, Gothnet wrote: In about 9 or 20 months I intend to stop working for a few months and drive around the continent of australia. A GPS device would be good for this. Given that this functionality is coming along ok, that by then we should (hopefully!) have fairly stable operation, and that freerunner battery life is probably never going to be more than a few hours with GPS running Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Not looked for one yet, but it has to have a DC Output from 3.7V 2A (battery written value) to 5V 2A (IIRC). Thanks to someone on IRC who helped me with this info, and don't ask me for more since I know almost nothing of electronics :) Rui -- Umlaut Zebra �ber alles! Today is Pungenday, the 3rd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
You might also consider a 12/220V converter. ( or 110V ofcourse) You can than also plug in your shaver, ipod charger and the lot. I did it last time when traveling and it worked for me. just my 2 cts. Kind regards, Ed Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 11:57:19AM -0800, Gothnet wrote: In about 9 or 20 months I intend to stop working for a few months and drive around the continent of australia. A GPS device would be good for this. Given that this functionality is coming along ok, that by then we should (hopefully!) have fairly stable operation, and that freerunner battery life is probably never going to be more than a few hours with GPS running Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Not looked for one yet, but it has to have a DC Output from 3.7V 2A (battery written value) to 5V 2A (IIRC). Thanks to someone on IRC who helped me with this info, and don't ask me for more since I know almost nothing of electronics :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
I recommend purchasing a power inverter. I have one in my car, it allows me to power my laptop and several accessories, then I just use the ac power adapter that came with the freerunner. They are cheap enough to consider! -Scott Gothnet wrote: In about 9 or 10 months I intend to stop working for a few months and drive around the continent of australia. A GPS device would be good for this. Given that this functionality is coming along ok, that by then we should (hopefully!) have fairly stable operation, and that freerunner battery life is probably never going to be more than a few hours with GPS running Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Car-Charger--tp2106770p2106859.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
2009/1/3 Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? My previous phone was an HTC TyTN II, and the charger from that seems to work OK - eg.: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=138248 The exact one I have I can't find a link for ATM. I imagine any charger with a miniUSB plug would work. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
On Saturday 03 January 2009 20:57:19 Gothnet wrote: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? I use a cheap car-usb adapter. It work perfectly with a standard usb cable. -- Vincent MEURISSE ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Not looked for one yet, but it has to have a DC Output from 3.7V 2A (battery written value) to 5V 2A (IIRC). Thanks to someone on IRC who helped me with this info, and don't ask me for more since I know almost nothing of electronics :) Rui Thanks for that, from a quick search around (using 5V 2A as terms) it looks like there might be a few options for that. There are a couple of things that give you a power-only USB-A slot to plug devices into, or there are chargers designed for other phones that use mini USB: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/216286187/dual_USB_car_charger_2A_.html http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=165045 Hmmm. Might have to try, they're fairly cheap. To the others saying buy an inverter, it is a good idea, and I will be travelling with a laptop too, but... it just seems wrong. Converting 12V DC to AC via an inverter and then back to 5V DC for the device can't be that efficient? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Car-Charger--tp2106770p2106889.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
El Venres, 10 de Outubro de 2008, Michael Shiloh escribió: I will look at it, and post the results. Anxiously awaiting your measurements. If there is no 4.7K resistor, I'd move this discussion to the kernel list. We should not be charging at 1A if we do not see this resistor. ID pin and GND ping are not connected on this charger. I have tried up to 200Mohm, the maximum measured by my multimeter. My model is exactly the same one as specified on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#TomTom_car_charger Could I make some software test? -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:05:09 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Garabana Barro wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008 12:50:57 Cédric Berger wrote: Ok, thanks... Would be interesting if by chance you could check between the ID pin and ground if you have a resistance close to 4.7Kohm ...? I will look at it, and post the results. Anxiously awaiting your measurements. If there is no 4.7K resistor, I'd move this discussion to the kernel list. We should not be charging at 1A if we do not see this resistor. The cig lighter adapter I got is just a USB port, (the ID pin doesn't exist there) just jack in the USB-MiniUSB cable. I get the same readings below on AC, on PC, and on DC. If I force charging to 500mA or 100mA then they reflect that. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode fast [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type charger 1A mode 1A If I understand you correctly, this sounds like a bug. Let me confirm: 1. Disconnect your FreeRunner from any power source. 2. Power cycle (to clear any previous state). 3. Connect the FreeRunner to a PC USB port. We know these source at most 500mA. 4. Display (and report) chgmode. Thanks, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:38:20 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Newkirk wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:05:09 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Garabana Barro wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008 12:50:57 Cédric Berger wrote: Ok, thanks... Would be interesting if by chance you could check between the ID pin and ground if you have a resistance close to 4.7Kohm ...? I will look at it, and post the results. Anxiously awaiting your measurements. If there is no 4.7K resistor, I'd move this discussion to the kernel list. We should not be charging at 1A if we do not see this resistor. The cig lighter adapter I got is just a USB port, (the ID pin doesn't exist there) just jack in the USB-MiniUSB cable. I get the same readings below on AC, on PC, and on DC. If I force charging to 500mA or 100mA then they reflect that. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode fast [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type charger 1A mode 1A If I understand you correctly, this sounds like a bug. Let me confirm: 1. Disconnect your FreeRunner from any power source. 2. Power cycle (to clear any previous state). 3. Connect the FreeRunner to a PC USB port. We know these source at most 500mA. 4. Display (and report) chgmode. Thanks, Michael OK, here's the final results. I've flashed the kernel since my previous post in this thread, currently uname -a shows Linux iota.newkirk.us 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Fri Sep 26 14:13:25 EST 2008 armv4tl unknown. After shutting down and restarting: with nothing connected, I get: chgmode: play-only charger_type: charger 1A mode 1A Connected to PC: chgmode: fast charger_type: charger 1A mode 500mA Connected to included wall charger: chgmode: fast charger_type: charger 1A mode 1A Connected to cheapo car lighter-to-USB adapter: chgmode: fast charger_type: charger 1A mode 1A (of course since the car charger provides 1000mA this is what I want it to do, but I realize it shouldn't be doing it without intervention) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
Oye. Moving this thread to the kernel list. This seems very wrong to me. Michael Joel Newkirk wrote: On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:38:20 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Newkirk wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:05:09 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Garabana Barro wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008 12:50:57 Cédric Berger wrote: Ok, thanks... Would be interesting if by chance you could check between the ID pin and ground if you have a resistance close to 4.7Kohm ...? I will look at it, and post the results. Anxiously awaiting your measurements. If there is no 4.7K resistor, I'd move this discussion to the kernel list. We should not be charging at 1A if we do not see this resistor. The cig lighter adapter I got is just a USB port, (the ID pin doesn't exist there) just jack in the USB-MiniUSB cable. I get the same readings below on AC, on PC, and on DC. If I force charging to 500mA or 100mA then they reflect that. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode fast [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type charger 1A mode 1A If I understand you correctly, this sounds like a bug. Let me confirm: 1. Disconnect your FreeRunner from any power source. 2. Power cycle (to clear any previous state). 3. Connect the FreeRunner to a PC USB port. We know these source at most 500mA. 4. Display (and report) chgmode. Thanks, Michael OK, here's the final results. I've flashed the kernel since my previous post in this thread, currently uname -a shows Linux iota.newkirk.us 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Fri Sep 26 14:13:25 EST 2008 armv4tl unknown. After shutting down and restarting: with nothing connected, I get: chgmode: play-only charger_type: charger 1A mode 1A Connected to PC: chgmode: fast charger_type: charger 1A mode 500mA Connected to included wall charger: chgmode: fast charger_type: charger 1A mode 1A Connected to cheapo car lighter-to-USB adapter: chgmode: fast charger_type: charger 1A mode 1A (of course since the car charger provides 1000mA this is what I want it to do, but I realize it shouldn't be doing it without intervention) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
2008/10/10 Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just wanted to post that I received http://www.cross-mark.com/charger-adapter-black-1000mah-p-962.html in the mail today. The FreeRunner automatically kicks into 1000ma charge mode. :) Best $3.00 (delivered) I've spent in a while. $3? bloody hell, i'd be very wary of that powering a $300 phone. car power is notoriously unstable; i can't remember where i read it now, but it's an iffy power source at the best of times. there's a bit of info on mini-itx.com: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=10#int the implication being that it spikes/troughs a lot, particularly at ignition ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 07:25, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to post that I received http://www.cross-mark.com/charger-adapter-black-1000mah-p-962.html in the mail today. The FreeRunner automatically kicks into 1000ma charge mode. Automatically 1A? Isn't it only possible with the 47k resistor on charger ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Friday 10 October 2008 12:50:57 Cédric Berger wrote: Ok, thanks... Would be interesting if by chance you could check between the ID pin and ground if you have a resistance close to 4.7Kohm ...? I will look at it, and post the results. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Friday 10 October 2008 09:43:49 Cédric Berger wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 07:25, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to post that I received http://www.cross-mark.com/charger-adapter-black-1000mah-p-962.html in the mail today. The FreeRunner automatically kicks into 1000ma charge mode. Automatically 1A? Isn't it only possible with the 47k resistor on charger ? I can assuse that, at least, tomtom one v2 charger charges my neo at 1 A (as mentioned on wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#TomTom_car_charger ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Friday 10 October 2008 11:24:49 Cédric Berger wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:03, David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008 10:22:39 Michele Renda wrote: Can you tell to me how do you find out the charge rate? I use this one: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode#Beni.27s_fast_char ge_gta02.sh Ok, so in this case, it is not automatic. No, no... I only use that script to see current charge mode: fast_charge_gta02.sh status I can assure you that Neo puts itself into 1A charge mode when plugged to tomtom car charger. I have never forced charge mode... it scares me ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Friday 10 October 2008 10:22:39 Michele Renda wrote: Can you tell to me how do you find out the charge rate? I use this one: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode#Beni.27s_fast_charge_gta02.sh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:03, David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008 10:22:39 Michele Renda wrote: Can you tell to me how do you find out the charge rate? I use this one: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode#Beni.27s_fast_charge_gta02.sh Ok, so in this case, it is not automatic. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
Can you tell to me how do you find out the charge rate? Thank you Michele Renda Joel Newkirk wrote: Just wanted to post that I received http://www.cross-mark.com/charger-adapter-black-1000mah-p-962.html in the mail today. The FreeRunner automatically kicks into 1000ma charge mode. :) Best $3.00 (delivered) I've spent in a while. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:43, David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, no... I only use that script to see current charge mode: fast_charge_gta02.sh status I can assure you that Neo puts itself into 1A charge mode when plugged to tomtom car charger. I have never forced charge mode... it scares me ;) Ok, thanks... Would be interesting if by chance you could check between the ID pin and ground if you have a resistance close to 4.7Kohm ...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
David Garabana Barro wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008 12:50:57 Cédric Berger wrote: Ok, thanks... Would be interesting if by chance you could check between the ID pin and ground if you have a resistance close to 4.7Kohm ...? I will look at it, and post the results. Anxiously awaiting your measurements. If there is no 4.7K resistor, I'd move this discussion to the kernel list. We should not be charging at 1A if we do not see this resistor. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:22:39 +0200, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you tell to me how do you find out the charge rate? Thank you Michele Renda One easy way: cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode j Joel Newkirk wrote: Just wanted to post that I received http://www.cross-mark.com/charger-adapter-black-1000mah-p-962.html in the mail today. The FreeRunner automatically kicks into 1000ma charge mode. :) Best $3.00 (delivered) I've spent in a while. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:05:09 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Garabana Barro wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008 12:50:57 Cédric Berger wrote: Ok, thanks... Would be interesting if by chance you could check between the ID pin and ground if you have a resistance close to 4.7Kohm ...? I will look at it, and post the results. Anxiously awaiting your measurements. If there is no 4.7K resistor, I'd move this discussion to the kernel list. We should not be charging at 1A if we do not see this resistor. The cig lighter adapter I got is just a USB port, (the ID pin doesn't exist there) just jack in the USB-MiniUSB cable. I get the same readings below on AC, on PC, and on DC. If I force charging to 500mA or 100mA then they reflect that. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode fast [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type charger 1A mode 1A Regarding kernel, I'm running Raster's image plus frameworkd+zhone. (from FSO unstable) uname -a tells me Linux iota.newkirk.us 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Fri Sep 26 14:13:25 EST 2008 armv4tl unknown. If the kernel handles this normally, what kernel module? (or is it inbuilt) 'lsmod' shows me ohci_hcd and hci_usb, nothing else USB-related. Also, lsusb is always blank output, even when I've got a thumbdrive mounted and can see sda in /proc/partitions. (Raster's image is stripped down to the bare minimum for testing, I've tried to install all the significant support packages [from FSO unstable feeds] but something missed might explain empty lsusb, empty /proc/bus/usb, and always charging 1000mA...) Questions: If forced to 1000mA with echo '1000' /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/force_usb_limit_dangerous it will revert on reboot, right? (I'd rebooted a few times since playing with my 'ggg' usb control script, and I can't imagine it surviving full powerdown, but...) What about when power is simply removed and restored? If not, then what settings can be made (via sysfs or dbus) to restore it to automatic? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
car charger
Just wanted to post that I received http://www.cross-mark.com/charger-adapter-black-1000mah-p-962.html in the mail today. The FreeRunner automatically kicks into 1000ma charge mode. :) Best $3.00 (delivered) I've spent in a while. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. Thanks... Should be that on the ID pin? We need a better search on the wiki Maybe also a small article with photos (as example) of a reworked charger (I figure that some opnemoko developers have already done that :P). Guys, I guess http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger may be the right place to add contents to. Btw, I've described a car charger of mine there. Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Although not measured, I've confirmed that the iGo systems - Juice and car charger - with the A32 tip will charge the Neo Freerunner. At one point it stopped working, but either of a uboot or kernel change has it working again. On Aug 10, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Olivier Berger wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. Thanks... Should be that on the ID pin? We need a better search on the wiki Maybe also a small article with photos (as example) of a reworked charger (I figure that some opnemoko developers have already done that :P). Guys, I guess http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger may be the right place to add contents to. Btw, I've described a car charger of mine there. Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Am Fr 8. August 2008 schrieb Michael: On 11/07/08 00:00:51, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). Just to clear this up, I have read through the kernel source for the GTA01 pmu driver and there is no mention of 1000mA, but there is in the GTA02 driver. So either the PMU does not support it, or the kernel does not use this fature in its driver. Michael. IIRC, PCF50606 can't do 1000mA, only PCF50633 can. /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Car charger to GTA02
I'll have to check. I used the same tip with my old razr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R McClenaghan Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:00 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Steve, I'm either crazy or loosing my mind. I was sure that the FR was charging with the iGO and the A32 (Rev 1, subscript T) tip. I went to by another tip and got a A32 (Rev 2, subscript E) and while the FR recognized a connection (the usb symbol showed) it did not charge. I retired the other tip and same thing - usb symbol but no charge. I checked battery status with apm and it reported off line when the iGO was connected. Which tip are you using? Did I blow something? The USB charge and wall charger both work, so I'm questioning now whether I ever really saw my FR charging, maybe just saw the usb icon and assumed it was. Chris On Jul 13, 2008, at 11:36 AM, steve wrote: I have the same iGO. Have used it without problem with my freerunner for a long while -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R McClenaghan Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:44 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Brenda Wang Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 A general question related to car charging. I have an iGo charger and many tips. One is a mini-usb tip. It seems to be charging my Neo okay. Is there an reason I shouldn't use this device? There is also an iGo car charger that accepts the same tips. I'm not trying to push the brand here, just wanting to know if this is an alternative charging mechanism and whether it is safe. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. We need a better search on the wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Steve, I'm either crazy or loosing my mind. I was sure that the FR was charging with the iGO and the A32 (Rev 1, subscript T) tip. I went to by another tip and got a A32 (Rev 2, subscript E) and while the FR recognized a connection (the usb symbol showed) it did not charge. I retired the other tip and same thing - usb symbol but no charge. I checked battery status with apm and it reported off line when the iGO was connected. Which tip are you using? Did I blow something? The USB charge and wall charger both work, so I'm questioning now whether I ever really saw my FR charging, maybe just saw the usb icon and assumed it was. Chris On Jul 13, 2008, at 11:36 AM, steve wrote: I have the same iGO. Have used it without problem with my freerunner for a long while -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R McClenaghan Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:44 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Brenda Wang Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 A general question related to car charging. I have an iGo charger and many tips. One is a mini-usb tip. It seems to be charging my Neo okay. Is there an reason I shouldn't use this device? There is also an iGo car charger that accepts the same tips. I'm not trying to push the brand here, just wanting to know if this is an alternative charging mechanism and whether it is safe. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. We need a better search on the wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Car charger to GTA02
I have the same iGO. Have used it without problem with my freerunner for a long while -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R McClenaghan Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:44 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Brenda Wang Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 A general question related to car charging. I have an iGo charger and many tips. One is a mini-usb tip. It seems to be charging my Neo okay. Is there an reason I shouldn't use this device? There is also an iGo car charger that accepts the same tips. I'm not trying to push the brand here, just wanting to know if this is an alternative charging mechanism and whether it is safe. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. We need a better search on the wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. Thanks... Should be that on the ID pin? Should be 47k ohm from ID pin to ground. Description is on: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware Look under 'USB Host' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Car charger to GTA02
Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. We need a better search on the wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
A general question related to car charging. I have an iGo charger and many tips. One is a mini-usb tip. It seems to be charging my Neo okay. Is there an reason I shouldn't use this device? There is also an iGo car charger that accepts the same tips. I'm not trying to push the brand here, just wanting to know if this is an alternative charging mechanism and whether it is safe. Chris On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:35 PM, steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. We need a better search on the wiki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:01 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Andy Selby ha scritto: How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On 04/07/08 20:38:02, Michael Shiloh wrote: Depends what you're going to do with it. If you use a Y cable to charge the phone while powering another USB device you may need 1.5A. Recognize also that you'll have to either add the ID resistor yourself, or manually enable 1A charging via software. Michael How do you enable 1A charging via software? The echo 'fast_cccv' etc.. only seems to give me 500ma. Is there a sysfs interface to this, or does it have to be done by the kernel? This is for the Neo 1973 by the way. Michael. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Too many different usb-connectors out there, most of them molded and break when you open. So any howto very unlikely to appear. I'm currently looking for suppliers for adapters, maybe we may find one (see kernel-ml) cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On Sunday 06 July 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Too many different usb-connectors out there, most of them molded and break when you open. So any howto very unlikely to appear. I'm currently looking for suppliers for adapters, maybe we may find one (see kernel-ml) cheers jOERG maplin.co.uk stock mini-b plugs, but the one I picked up yesterday doesn't give access to the ID pin! I haven't yet found another supplier of mini-b plugs in the UK, so I'm hoping I can get a connection to the pin with a little delicate surgery. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Al Johnson wrote: On Sunday 06 July 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Too many different usb-connectors out there, most of them molded and break when you open. So any howto very unlikely to appear. I'm currently looking for suppliers for adapters, maybe we may find one (see kernel-ml) cheers jOERG maplin.co.uk stock mini-b plugs, but the one I picked up yesterday doesn't give access to the ID pin! I haven't yet found another supplier of mini-b plugs in the UK, so I'm hoping I can get a connection to the pin with a little delicate surgery. I ordered some from Digikey last week that are supposed to have the ID pin. I'll know for sure in a few days. H2958-ND I presume Digikey is available in the UK? M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On Friday 04 July 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 Yes it is :) You only needs 1 Amp, this have 2 Amps Depends what you're going to do with it. If you use a Y cable to charge the phone while powering another USB device you may need 1.5A. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 04 July 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 Yes it is :) You only needs 1 Amp, this have 2 Amps Depends what you're going to do with it. If you use a Y cable to charge the phone while powering another USB device you may need 1.5A. Recognize also that you'll have to either add the ID resistor yourself, or manually enable 1A charging via software. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Car charger to GTA02
make a compilation of this stuff and wikify accordingly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:09 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Michael Shiloh wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 04 July 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 Yes it is :) You only needs 1 Amp, this have 2 Amps Depends what you're going to do with it. If you use a Y cable to charge the phone while powering another USB device you may need 1.5A. Recognize also that you'll have to either add the ID resistor yourself, or manually enable 1A charging via software. Yes I knew this, I managed by doing this by software (since my hardware-editing skills are not so great), btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Thanks... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 Yes it is :) You only needs 1 Amp, this have 2 Amps ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | If you want fast charge (1A) you can either : | - Use the special cable that have the resistor, that provides GTA0x a | way to recognize the charger | - Use the applet somebody wrote to force fast charge mode by software. | | Be careful, drawing 1A out of USB can destroy the charger if it is not | supported ! | | Hope I'm not saying too much nonsense, and by the way, this is my first | mail on this list :) Hello world ! Hey Philippe - You're quite right... charging would hardly happen since it is not 100mA charging limit but 100mA limit at the USB socket, and we use some of that to power the CPU, etc. A 1A-capable cigarette skt - 5VDC mini USB adapter with the 48K resistor between ID and GND will do a good fast charge as you say. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfzO1QACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpLvACffKTlGQKxhsexC5WHgjDb7uzY fesAoJPn41/8/ObyWjGoSv2BOfWJDiDV =RTH3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On Tuesday 01 April 2008 17:01, Michael Shiloh wrote: snip By the way, if someone nicely documents step 3, including the resistor value, and how to identify which wires go to which pins, with excellent drawings or photographs, I'll nominate that for a developer of the week award :-) I thought it was Community Member of the Week not Developer of the Week Andy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Annoyingly enough this will be the hard bit because the fifth ID pin is | typically not connected to any wire in the cable. | | Good point. Are you aware of any cable that does bring out this pin? The three or four that I have hacked about over the years all had only four wires + shield. I guess a mini USB - mini USB cable if it existed would at least have somewhere to connect the ID pin through to, but I never saw one. | A workaround would be to construct your own cable from 2 connectors and | cable. Digikey carries all those connectors. Yes, http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=H2958-ND seems to be a 5-pin plug. I pulled apart a moulded one, one of our kit ones I think, they are not hackable at all. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfzZF8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqIAwCdHIKLmalGzJ57lF+On/Tfw/C+ ou0AmQEaI+IhCwKm39EARJSbiu3yBhip =d0dd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
a mini-USB to min-USB cable will only have 4 wires. The ID pin is tied to ground at one end of the cable, and left floating at the other. The ID pins at the two ends of the cables to not connect. --Steve On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:48 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Annoyingly enough this will be the hard bit because the fifth ID pin is | typically not connected to any wire in the cable. | | Good point. Are you aware of any cable that does bring out this pin? The three or four that I have hacked about over the years all had only four wires + shield. I guess a mini USB - mini USB cable if it existed would at least have somewhere to connect the ID pin through to, but I never saw one. | A workaround would be to construct your own cable from 2 connectors and | cable. Digikey carries all those connectors. Yes, http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=H2958-ND seems to be a 5-pin plug. I pulled apart a moulded one, one of our kit ones I think, they are not hackable at all. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfzZF8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqIAwCdHIKLmalGzJ57lF+On/Tfw/C+ ou0AmQEaI+IhCwKm39EARJSbiu3yBhip =d0dd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Andy Powell wrote: On Tuesday 01 April 2008 17:01, Michael Shiloh wrote: snip By the way, if someone nicely documents step 3, including the resistor value, and how to identify which wires go to which pins, with excellent drawings or photographs, I'll nominate that for a developer of the week award :-) I thought it was Community Member of the Week not Developer of the Week Argh! Andy is quite right. I carefully chose that title to assure nominees aren't limited to developers, as help might come in the form of artwork (e.g. icons, technical drawings for wiki,), music (e.g. ringtones), t-shirt design, etc. Thanks Andy, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Michael Shiloh ha scritto: A generic solution can be built this way: 1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g. http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10892. Make sure it can supply at least 1A. Note in my example that the specs don't say this, but if you look at the picture carefully you can read the 1A on the label. They are very common. I think I found one for less than $2.00. 2. Purchase a standard USB A to Mini B cable,e.g. http://www.cablesforless.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=14660. These too are common. I have about 4 left over from digital cameras. You can probably get them for free by asking your friends and relatives. 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Why not simply connecting the official Openmoko usb cable to the car usb charger? Will it need the mod you've figured at the point 3? Good question. I've assumed the resistor is in the charger and not the cable. If indeed it is in the cable your solution works. Can someone confirm this? Also, if this is true, it means you need to label your Openmoko USB cable is it is not the same as the half dozen other USB cables you have in your kitchen drawer from cameras and the like. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Anyway, I am going to try this out, but I do not have a Neo for the moment, soo if anyone can confirm the works I lay out. Michael Shiloh skrev: Andy Powell wrote: On Tuesday 01 April 2008 17:01, Michael Shiloh wrote: snip By the way, if someone nicely documents step 3, including the resistor value, and how to identify which wires go to which pins, with excellent drawings or photographs, I'll nominate that for a developer of the week award :-) I thought it was Community Member of the Week not Developer of the Week Argh! Andy is quite right. I carefully chose that title to assure nominees aren't limited to developers, as help might come in the form of artwork (e.g. icons, technical drawings for wiki,), music (e.g. ringtones), t-shirt design, etc. Thanks Andy, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Am Mi 2. April 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Michael Shiloh ha scritto: A generic solution can be built this way: 1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g. http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10892. Make sure it can supply at least 1A. Note in my example that the specs don't say this, but if you look at the picture carefully you can read the 1A on the label. They are very common. I think I found one for less than $2.00. 2. Purchase a standard USB A to Mini B cable,e.g. http://www.cablesforless.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=14660. These too are common. I have about 4 left over from digital cameras. You can probably get them for free by asking your friends and relatives. 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Why not simply connecting the official Openmoko usb cable to the car usb charger? Will it need the mod you've figured at the point 3? Good question. I've assumed the resistor is in the charger and not the cable. If indeed it is in the cable your solution works. Can someone confirm this? Also, if this is true, it means you need to label your Openmoko USB cable is it is not the same as the half dozen other USB cables you have in your kitchen drawer from cameras and the like. AFAIK the cable is a simple USB host to mini-USB device connect to PC one like with any camera. Neo will be in device mode with this cable. Charger has a fixed cable and R is inside mini-USB jack, i guess. Charging with the special jr-Y-cable for external powered host mode, with it's 2 pulldown R and ID-R will work. Just connect any USB charger to it. Alas this cable probably will not be included with Freerunner, you have to DIY. /jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Car charger to GTA02
Hey. Is it any plans about a car charger to FreeRunner? And if it is, what are the status? If not this is something i can need. Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
I don't know, if there will be a official Car Charger, but if not you might use something like this[1] [1] http://tiny.cc/IJMHm 2008/4/1, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey. Is it any plans about a car charger to FreeRunner? And if it is, what are the status? If not this is something i can need. Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hmm Perhaps I will make one, and offcorse share the plans. I do not have a Neo, but if someone dares to try it on theirs and it works, I will be a verry happy man. Starting the research now, anyone that can give me the specs of the charger, Voltage and Amps. Alexander Frøyseth Kolja Dummann skrev: I don't know, if there will be a official Car Charger, but if not you might use something like this[1] [1] http://tiny.cc/IJMHm 2008/4/1, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey. Is it any plans about a car charger to FreeRunner? And if it is, what are the status? If not this is something i can need. Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm Perhaps I will make one, and offcorse share the plans. I do not have a Neo, but if someone dares to try it on theirs and it works, I will be a verry happy man. Starting the research now, anyone that can give me the specs of the charger, Voltage and Amps. This has been sort-of discussed before. Looking back: On Mar 27, 2008, at 2:58 PM, joerg wrote: Correct, it checks for 48k-OHM resistor on ID-pin of mini-USB, then enables 1A instead of 100/500mA USB-standard. And I believe USB (by specification) provides 5V. So as long as your charger is capable of providing 5V and 1A, you could set up the resistor and the GTA02 would automatically draw the full amount. -- -Johann Koenig (re-sending from other account; forgot which one i joined the list with) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor | between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Annoyingly enough this will be the hard bit because the fifth ID pin is typically not connected to any wire in the cable. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfycCIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqMVwCffe/DRp+ZTj+ZseQevodT1cjN y2IAn0RL2NTs14oz3/dv80Jv7Pbw+LAS =RaeL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I can take a look and draw some plans, perhaps even a PCB plan. But I have to wait to I am back at school in 2 about weeks Alexander Frøyseth Andy Green skrev: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor | between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Annoyingly enough this will be the hard bit because the fifth ID pin is typically not connected to any wire in the cable. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkfycCIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqMVwCffe/DRp+ZTj+ZseQevodT1cjN y2IAn0RL2NTs14oz3/dv80Jv7Pbw+LAS =RaeL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Michael Shiloh ha scritto: A generic solution can be built this way: 1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g. http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10892. Make sure it can supply at least 1A. Note in my example that the specs don't say this, but if you look at the picture carefully you can read the 1A on the label. They are very common. I think I found one for less than $2.00. 2. Purchase a standard USB A to Mini B cable,e.g. http://www.cablesforless.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=14660. These too are common. I have about 4 left over from digital cameras. You can probably get them for free by asking your friends and relatives. 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Why not simply connecting the official Openmoko usb cable to the car usb charger? Will it need the mod you've figured at the point 3? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
It have to be mod sinse a pc usb uses 5V and a car 12V Perhaps the is other resons to Alexander Frøyseth 2008/4/2, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Shiloh ha scritto: A generic solution can be built this way: 1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g. http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10892. Make sure it can supply at least 1A. Note in my example that the specs don't say this, but if you look at the picture carefully you can read the 1A on the label. They are very common. I think I found one for less than $2.00. 2. Purchase a standard USB A to Mini B cable,e.g. http://www.cablesforless.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=14660. These too are common. I have about 4 left over from digital cameras. You can probably get them for free by asking your friends and relatives. 3. Carefully slice open the cable and solder in the appropriate resistor between the appropriate conductors (someone needs to document this) Why not simply connecting the official Openmoko usb cable to the car usb charger? Will it need the mod you've figured at the point 3? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
