Re: 400/800k disks
I'm thinking that if you use an older os you take any floppy and format it. -- Original Message - Subject: 400/800k disks Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 22:10:47 -0800 (PST) From: jerry briardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Compact Macs compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Where does one find 400 and 800k floppies? I would be more than happy to copy this old software if I could find the disks. I have some good old stuff here. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Surfin the net on a meg and a prayer -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: 400/800k disks
oh and tape over the 2nd hole. -- Original Message - Subject: Re: 400/800k disks Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 06:21:04 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Compact Macs compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com I'm thinking that if you use an older os you take any floppy and format it. -- Original Message - Subject: 400/800k disks Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 22:10:47 -0800 (PST) From: jerry briardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Compact Macs compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Where does one find 400 and 800k floppies? I would be more than happy to copy this old software if I could find the disks. I have some good old stuff here. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Surfin the net on a meg and a prayer -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Surfin the net on a meg and a prayer -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
mac mini
mini mac + http://shop.5click.com/evstore/product.cfm?ProductID=12 + http://www.bytewizecomputers.com/products/7/12/437 = compact mac? maybe maybe not phil -- Surfin the net on a meg and a prayer -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Need help accessing websites
How do I make these settings? When I open the PPP control panel, the window is empty. Where and how do I make the DNS server address and ISP settings in FreePPP or MacTCP? Greg Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:06:52 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need help accessing websites Using Free PPP and System 7.5.5, I am able to connect to the internet on my IIsi with a Global Village Teleport 33.6 modem, but my browser (icab) cannot access any websites. I get the response server is inaccessible when attempting to access any site (e.g., yahoo). Any help would be appreciated. Greg -- -- Is your DNS server properly set? That has been an issue for me from time to time - just forgetting to set it... Kyle DePasquale Webmaster -Livermore High School http://www.livermorehigh.com --- I had this something happen with my 280c, 7.6.1, FreePPP and iCab 2.9.8(68k). You need to have at least 1 DNS address and 1 IP from your ISP in the preferences in order to see web pages.. -hth -nathan -- On Thursday, October 7, 2004, at 07:17 PM, Kyle DePasquale wrote: Is your DNS server properly set? That has been an issue for me from time to time - just forgetting to set it... Kyle DePasquale Yup, and be sure you have a MacTCP and aFreePPP or something like it, and the ppp extension, unless you're running Open Transport. Then, you open the PPP control panel and set all your settings from the menu bar. The Modem, TCP/IP, etc. Jeff G = __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Need help accessing websites
Using Free PPP and System 7.5.5, I am able to connect to the internet on my IIsi with a Global Village Teleport 33.6 modem, but my browser (icab) cannot access any websites. I get the response server is inaccessible when attempting to access any site (e.g., yahoo). Any help would be appreciated. Greg = ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
120 vs. 96-pin right-angle Female DINs
I found a female right angle 120-pin DIN, but the manufacturer wants $65 + SH (http://www.ecsconn.com/catalog/PDF/5100SER/51-471-821.PDF) Could someone suggest where I could buy some of those 96-pin DINS described in the message below? Thanks, Greg Subject: Re: It never fails... Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 05:57:00 +0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Luke Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 120-pin DIN http://www.oupiin.com/pdf/CB03.pdf I purchased 1/2 dozen 96-pin right-angle Female DINs from a local electrical supplier.=20 Spent 10 minutes with a hacksaw and sharp knife to make a single 120-pin DIN.=20 =20 http://www.vorlac.com.au/catresults.cfm?select=3D33subcode=3D421stock_n= o=3D2 7307 Botched the first attempt, second was fine - total cost $4 Simasima means a zebra-like stripe pattern in Japanese. http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~shamada/fullmac/repairEng.html Luke = __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Need help upgrading an SE/30
I want to put an Ethernet adapter and 50 MHz Powercache 030 with a Daystar SI adapter into an SE/30. I found Gamba's page that describes the use of a right angle connector. I emailed the address on that page, but the message was returned. Does anyone know where to get one of those connectors? Also, where can I purchase the plastic tools used to adjust the display? Radioshack USA used to stock them, but no longer. I would rather not have to drive to Canada where they can still be purchased. Thanks, Greg --- Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs Digest #1995 1. clear Macintosh SE 2. Re: clear Macintosh SE 3. Re: clear Macintosh SE 4. Re: clear Macintosh SE 5. Re: clear Macintosh SE 6. Re: can't boot with diimo 7. sad day (RE: can't boot with diimo) Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For feed mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ -- Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 01:01:39 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: clear Macintosh SE Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey folks... Just browsing around for Apple ][ information, and I somehow stumbled upon this: http://www.regnirps.com/SEF/seitem.htm Now I'm not sure how old this page is, or if this URL has already been posted here in the past, but I know I haven't seen anything about it since being a member of the list. Either way, I think it is interesting and very cool. I saw a clear Color Classic on eBay a while ago, but for some reason I think this is so much cooler. I'm almost tempted to make an offer. But then again, I don't know how old this page is-- it could be years old, and the SE could've been sold long ago. But one thing is for sure-- this one is going on my bookmark list and everyone here should take a peek! -Nat Nat Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Stuart Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: clear Macintosh SE Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 09:33:36 +0100 On 17 May 2004, at 09:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But then again, I don't know how old this page is-- it could be years old, and the SE could've been sold long ago. I _think_ the page has been round for a while. Stuart -- Subject: Re: clear Macintosh SE In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at May 17, 2004 01:01:39 am Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 03:39:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva) But then again, I don't know how old this page is-- it could be years old, and the SE could've been sold long ago. But one thing is for sure-- this one is going on my bookmark list and everyone here should take a peek! Here's the original version: http://web.archive.org/web/19990429222902/http://www.regnirps.com/SEF/seitem.htm I assume the rest of the items have already been sold. -- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eric Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: clear Macintosh SE Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 06:37:19 -0400 There's a clear Classic currently on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=51046item=4131577967 -- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Stuart Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: clear Macintosh SE Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:52:55 +0100 On 17 May 2004, at 11:37, Eric Rasmussen wrote: There's a clear Classic currently on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=51046item=4131577967 ANy idea about what appears to be in the RAm expansion slot? Stuart -- Subject: Re: can't boot with diimo Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 08:48:20 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doh! I had the IIsi adapter in the same bag, but for some=20 reason thought it was only for horizontal mounting. I forgot all about the=20 (non-SE/30-specific) accelerator needing an adapter. =20 =20 Well, it'll take removing the hard drive and laying out the back, and completely removing the floppy drive as the adapter puts the=20 card right at that level. Actually with the NIC I'm stacking on it's high enough to clear the = drives. Tim --=20 Tim Larson 402.998.3233
Re: 800K floppies
You can try office supply stores for the disks as they are the same used in a lot of older word processors. Ken Hi: To get 800K disks, I tried Staples. I think they thought that I was nuts. They carried nothing less than 1.44Mb floppy disks. You can still get these disks by the bushelful: Just buy 720K PC floppies. They are the same thing. You'll have to reformat as 800K, but that's all. I was at an Office Depot last week, and they still stock these. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Free Compact Macs and parts
Apologies to the list, that last post meant to go offlist. bertie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:48:25 -0700 To: Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Free Compact Macs and parts Whereabouts in Phoenix? I live in Blythe, on the Calif. state line on I-10. thanks, bertie hall From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:36:20 -0700 To: Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free Compact Macs and parts Reposting this on it's own in case others on the listed missed it the first time. anyone live in the Phoenix area who wants to come pick up 4-5 Classic's and Se's and a bunch of parts including used mobo's, hdd's including a few mystery expansion boards, all free? Most work and have OS's and progs on them. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Free Compact Macs and parts
Whereabouts in Phoenix? I live in Blythe, on the Calif. state line on I-10. thanks, bertie hall From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:36:20 -0700 To: Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free Compact Macs and parts Reposting this on it's own in case others on the listed missed it the first time. anyone live in the Phoenix area who wants to come pick up 4-5 Classic's and Se's and a bunch of parts including used mobo's, hdd's including a few mystery expansion boards, all free? Most work and have OS's and progs on them. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
128k SCSI (was: Strange Mac Plus?)
on 3/27/03 2:00 PM, (Compact Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The SCSI port in the battery door was a third part upgrade that existed for a while. It is indeed a 128K originally. Can one run a SCSI hard drive with a 128k with this? My understanding was that the 128k wouldn't even run the HD20 hard drive. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Mac Plus Start Up time.
I recently upgraded my Mac Plus to 4 Megs of ram. I didn't bother booting it before the installation of the extra ram and can't remember how long it took with 1 meg. It seems to take a long time to boot. More than 30 seconds before it scans for a drive. If you're impatient like I am, then force the Plus to bypass the RAM test: press the mouse button just before flipping on the power switch, and hold it down until it starts the rest of the boot procedure. Speeds things up quite a bit. -- Prof. Thomas H. Lee Center for Integrated Systems, CIS-205 420 Via Palou Mall Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-4070 http://www-smirc.stanford.edu 650-725-3709 voice, -3383 fax mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 800K disks, part II
And then there is the problem of Media differences, as mentioned before by someone else on the list, but got it backwards, the HD disk has a thinner magnetic coating, and smaller magnetic particles. The thinner coating means that the magnetic force needed to alter the particles is much less than an 800k drive puts out for the 800k disks. The smaller particles allow data to be packed more tightly on the HD disks, this helps the HD disks able to have 18 sectors per track. Also the tracks on a 1.4 HD disk are thinner, and the sectors are longer. This info is from the book Inside The Apple Macintosh written by Jim Heid and Peter Norton, copyright 1989 Dan M. Dan, a message I beat into my students is: don't believe everything you read, just because it's in a book! Consider the qualifications of the authors; no one is an expert in everything. And consider logic, too. So, thanks for giving me a chance to point out this book's error. Those authors you cite are just plain wrong. It is well known among disk designers that you need to INCREASE the specific magnetic strength of particles as you shrink the bit size, to prevent excessive diminution of signal strength (simple logic: smaller bits are weaker magnets unless you do something about the material properties). If you do some more careful research, you'll find that the coercivities of media have indeed increased with each generation as densities have gone up. The original information I posted, including the specific coercivity values I cited, were correct. The data you cite about rotation rates is interesting, but ultimately irrelevant. The bits switch magnetizations so fast (nanosecond scale) that rotation speed has no practical implications at all (other than wear). The only things that really matter are the remanent magnetizations of the particles, the track width, and the bit density. If you're going to pack more bits along a track, the bits will be smaller. Again, if you don't want the read signal to go down, you've got to make the magnets more powerful. That necessarily implies that the coercivities must increase, so they're harder to write. Hope that makes this clear. -- Prof. Thomas H. Lee Center for Integrated Systems, CIS-205 420 Via Palou Mall Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-4070 http://www-smirc.stanford.edu 650-725-3709 voice, -3383 fax mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: LC 575s (was: Help!)
on 12/4/02 2:00 PM, (Compact Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have six LC575s and I finally have some time to learn about their capabilities. snip I have several students who do not have computers at home and what I would like to do is at least provide them with Internet capability (the local phone company is willing to provide some access). At home here I have an Imac, a couple of 6400s and the LCs. Now what do I need to do with these 575s to accomplish this? Will they work with High Speed? I'm not sure what that means. If you mean high speed internet, yes, they'll work with cable or dsl. You're going to need an interface of some sort. Cable internet or dsl will supply modems, and if you want to use a dial-up connection you need a modem. Are you giving these out individually, or networking them at some central point? If you want to network them, I would encourage high-speed internet, because networking with a dial-up modem would be excruciatingly slow. You'll need some sort of ethernet router to deal with multiple connections. I have 15 computers, including some old ones like yours, networked in my home using ISDN, which is only a little faster than a dial-up connection. I can't get dsl or cable internet here. Since only 2 or 3 re used at the same time, it's bearable. What printers can we use with them? The LC 575s will work with any Mac serial printers (they use the little round plug similar to the keyboard plug). What OS do they need? 575s can run up to OS 8.1. If you max out the RAM (36 MB), OS 8.1 will be slow but usable. You might be happier with 7.5.5, which is still available free by downloading 7.5.3 then the 7.5.5 upgrade. Can you increase storage capacity? Yep, you can put larger SCSI hard drives in there. They can not use ATA/IDE drives. Can you increase CD ROM drive speeds? Yes, but I'm not sure you'll notice much of a difference. How difficult is it to obtain extra RAM? Easy and fairly inexpensive. They use 72-pin RAM. Can the monitors be used for other machines? Well, you can use motherboards from *older* all-in-one Macs, but using those monitors for a newer motherboard would be harder to accomplish. It's too bad, because they are fairly nice monitors. All of these beautiful little macs do have ethernet cards, a couple have 8.1 most have 16RAM with one @ 32. I have one external 56k Modem. Get more 32 MB sticks and max out the RAM. You'll need more modems if you are giving them out to separate homes. The pudgy LC 575 happens to be one of my favorite Macs, only because I feel sorry that people cannibalize them to use the motherboards in the Color Classic. Good luck with your project, and email me off-list if you need more assistance. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Problem initializing HD
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:23:19 + Hello all. After succesfully changing the HD in my Classic to a 100mb I then went about the process of initializing it so I can put on system 7.0.1. I booted up with Apple HD SC setup 7.3.5 and started to initialize. It starts no problem but after a couple of minutes a bomb error appears saying 'system error bad f-line'. Before you go to a *whole* lot of trouble with other formatters, ritual sacrifice, etc., have you made sure that the new HD has termination resistors installed? If not, then communication between the Mac and the drive can be sort of iffy. The dreaded bad f-line error message can easily result from the Mac getting some bent bits back from the drive. -- Prof. Thomas H. Lee Center for Integrated Systems, CIS-205 420 Via Palou Mall Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-4070 http://www-smirc.stanford.edu 650-725-3709 ph, -3383 fax mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SplitIt! [was Re: File Transfer]
From: BrianH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: File Transfer My only access to the Internet is with my PeeCee. I can (and have) downloaded lots of freebies, which can easily be transferred to the Classic - provided that they can fit onto an HD floppy. I would like to be able to transfer larger files, either :- 1. by chopping them up and reassembling them on the Classic.. I use a shareware prog called SplitIt! - drop files onto it and they break into disk-sized chunks, drop the bits on it and they reassemble. I've been using SplitIt! too and think highly of it. You can even control the size of the chuncks. Bob F -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Cricket Presents
Compact Macs wrote... From: Sean Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cricket Presents Anyone ever heard of a little app called Cricket Presents? And know where I can get a copy? I'm trying to get my son to learn a presentation package on his SE/30 and I don't want to burden the boy or the machine with PowerPoint (sadly he does use MS Word though...) and I don't think he's quite ready for Director. Thanks, Sean It was owned by Computer Associates, called CA-Cricket Presents. Used to cost an arm and a leg back in '94 or so. Shouldn't be easy to find nowadays either. Here's a U.K. URL with a list ridiculous prices for alternatives: http://www.quickerwit.com/category.cfm?p1=107p2=1p3=3 Sorry I can't be more helpful. If you haven't come up with anything in a week or so, contact me offlist and I'll look through my ed files to see if I might have it from some old school HDD I rescued. Bob F -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iCab conflict on a Classic II
Compact Macs wrote... From: Gamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: iCab conflict on a Classic II Gamba responded to Bill: Sounds like you are running out of memory. Compare the System heap sizes with and without the offending inits. Also, be aware that iCab, like most modern browses, graps memory from the System heap as it goes along. The extent depends on the complexity of the html code. So can an appropriate amount be reserved for the system? Would enlarging the system cache do this? Scott You might try out the Reaper, a very handy freeware control panel available from http://www.akua.com/Software/Reaper/index.html with which you can act on the System heap and a lot more. The 1.3.2 version is rock steady and supposedly good back to System 7.0.1. I've unfortunately forgotten which OS you're using here though. Bob F -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re Spanish_to_English
From: mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re Spanish_to_English Dear Bob, I had to cancel the meeting with my Spanish freinds here in Amsterdam, last week. Thus, your little program hasn't been translated yet. I don't know when I will meet them, so fast translation is a bit 'on a slope'. Let me know if you had any luck with the others. If not, I will be more than pleased to do it. but, as I said, it will reguire a little patience. No, no luck yet. I can wait. Thx, Bob F -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:compact.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:compact.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: on or off?
Jan Wawrzynczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the collective opinion on leaving compacts permanently on? i have my classic powered up 24 hrs a day (with screensaver!) - should i turn it off? -- I have an SE/30, running 24/7 as a fax-machine. Works great. Survived several power-outage without a problem. Noel. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 2.5 hard disks in Compacts?
Apparently these were manufactured (or at least sold) by several companies under a couple of different names. I have one from Jasmine that's called a 'Clipper Drive' because of the belt clip on the case so you could carry the drive around with you easily. Here is what I know about the little darlings You can use a hard drive up to about 160-180MB _without_ an external power source. Above that and you need to get 5v from somewhere and the drive I have get's that from the ADB port, the power cable has a passthru plug. The DB25 SCSI port provides pass thru termination automatically. I have mine setup as a boot drive for my compacts with a bunch of appropriate system repair and diagnostic software. Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:05:57 EDT I picked up this little 2.5-inch hard drive case called HitchHiker 80(though no longer any 80mb HD inside), made by Mass Microsystems. Has regular DB-25 (both male and female) on it, and SCSI ID setting switch. The male DB-25 is at a right angle, so you could just plug it into computer's SCSI port with the case in a vertical position. I'd love to use this cute little thing...only trouble is, no power supply. I assume 5v.(positive center? my guru told me), but the jack to plug the PS into is very tiny. So I am searching for the right wallwart and small enough adaptor plug. Would a 6-volt wallwart blow any HD I'd have in there? Anyway...this would be cool for those of you who want to have a small external drive on your compact, so keep your eyes open. Saul Broudy (who may get a chance to come to Klokhuisdag in January if the recording session in Belgium happens) mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 580 hard drive doesn't appear
Original Message: - From: Philip Stortz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:11:18 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LC 580 hard drive doesn't appear first, check the cables, snip if they won't show up in the formatter, try scsi probe IIRC the 580 uses an IDE drive and SCSI Probe won't be of any use. You could try the latest version of 'Mt. Everything' (v1.5.3?) which will work for ATA on the internal bus. but like i said reinstalling the driver on the drive usually works. norton and the other various utilities can't really do anything with a drive that won't mount. l s wrote: Hello, I am a teacher in a small school and have a number of different Macs in my room. When I went to set things up this fall, the two LC 580s did not operate properly. I get the question mark in the disk at start up. I inserted a CD to start up to see what My experience with the older ATA drives in these lowend machines is that they are not very durable and it's quite possible that they are simply dead from sticktion after the period of un-use Aloha, Ken mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac ED
Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was Europe IIRC, they were made in Ireland. You're right, the serial number starts with 'C' (Cork, Ireland) Noel. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
