Re: [CGUYS] bittorrent with Opera
It gets back to what I said a while back about torrent downloads speeds being limited to your upload speed. As Mike explained, you may occasionally come across a particularly fast uploader, but much more common is that you connect with a bunch of users like yourself, thus limiting your download speeds. Anyway, unless you're in a big hurry it doesn't matter. The sharing goes on in the background. Just leave it on overnight. > > Questions: Does Opera actually support bittorrent? If so, why such a > > long time to download? A 105 MB file would download in very much less > > time without bittorent. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads -- baseball and "level playing fields"
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yes but those "administration fees" (or kickback or whatever you > want to call them) of some of the profits doesn't make the > government the party who wanted, proposed and ultimately benefits the > most from the creation of a monopoly. Here's an analogy: If money > could influence the fundamental regulating rules of baseball, some > wealthy/ advertising market rich team, like Steinbrunner's Yankees, > would propose that they deserved to have more players on the field > than a poorer / smaller media market team. Dan--did you know that Major League Baseball pays no taxes, although the teams do? MLB is a tax-exempt entity under Internal Revenue Code Section 501(c)(6), with the tax returns as open, public documents. The tax exempt status is the reason why there were hearings in Congress regarding illegal steroid use. Bad analogy. The government is all over MLB with oversight. Maybe not so for MLS, NBA or NFL? Baseball isn't a sport, it's a pastime. Shouldn't TV, cable, satellite companies pay for the frequencies that they use since those are owned by the general public? Even cable receives satellite communications over publicly owned frequencies. There seems to be a misunderstanding of the commons, i.e., publicly owned property, and the rights of the owners [us] vs. use by private companies with little or no reimbursement to us, and often great profit to them. And sports franchises have the nerve to demand that cities pay huge sums to build new stadiums resulting in big profits for the teams, and little revenue to the cities--sometimes even a net loss. No wonder cities like LA aren't in any hurry to attract a new football team. We don't appreciate Maryland giving money to the Orioles or Ravens when they hardly have anything left of our tax revenue to send to rural counties. The government is NOT a business. It exists to serve the people. If you don't have good public servants, you have voted for the wrong people. > Business, like sports, only works if all teams/ business are > guaranteed a level playing field and a fair chance to compete and > that depends on a neutral umpire/ governance to regulate and enforce > the rules that are made to protect everyone's common interest rather > than the individual's ability to maximize profit or wins. There's no "level playing field" in communications since the Fairness Doctrine was thrown out. There's no "level playing field" in the energy industry as long as coal and petro get almost free resources on public lands and they, along with nuclear, get $billions in subsidies, while renewables had no subsidies at all for years and now get $millions in contrast to the others' $billions. Oil that's pumped out of the ground in Saudi Arabia for $4/barrel sells here for $100/barrel on what "level playing field"? Where's the "level playing field" in broadband where service is down while prices continue to go up? Competition--not. Cartels are more like it--deliberate or not. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
According to this article, it looks like he tried that route last year but wasn't satisfied with the result: http://tinyurl.com/252787 Richard P. Snip... Once he could direct organizers to a website, Miller put into place things he had been working on for a month or more -- things he could have told Apple about long ago but he doesn't care about security. He wants hacker fame and free money and equipment. Even if he believed Apple never plugs security holes, he could have told them and still done this since lazy ol' Apple wouldn't have plugged it; but he didn't, because he wanted his name in the news and a free computer. These people are schmucks. If they really cared about us peons out here, they would hand over their research to Apple, MicroSoft and the rest rather than sitting back and laughing at us on the way to their banks. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
>What I don't want is the government making the choice about who gets >what. Government in the United States does decide who gets what: Government decided when, what, where you buy, how much you pay, content of Alcohol. Government decides what you can and cannot smoke...legal tobacco, illegal, well, other stuff. Government decides if you where a motorcycle helmit or not. Government decides if you fly or not. Government decides if you drive or not (possibly the most begnin reasons here) Government decides what words you can hear or not hear on the TV and radio. In virginia, I am prohibited from receiving all of the electromagnetic spectrum (Radar detectors at the state level, and cell phone scanners at the federal level) At the State level, I do believe you need to either have a license or be registered to have bees. And god forbid you swap out an electrical breaker or add on a deck, the county will have your head. John Mealey * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
> I'm not willing to accept this machinery of death. > > I'm also not willing to accept crummy and expensive broadband. I'm confused here. Who's killing whom? Is this when robots become sentient, enslave mankind and viciously take over the world? If it weren't for the cheap and ultra high speed Internet linking them all together Just the same, I, for one, welcome out new positronic overlords. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bittorrent with Opera
Bittorrent is peer to peer file sharing, it takes as long as it takes with the connected users in the swarm who are uploading. If the seeders, the people who are uploading are connected on dialup it will take forever, if they are on high speed then less. The time it takes to download can change drastically if just a few users join/leave the swarm. The idea is to share the bandwith. Imagine the ubuntu linux distribution, the bandwith they spend when all their users download the newest version, now you can use bittorrent to get the newest ubuntu, thus spreading the load to users. If opera didn't support it, the file wouldn't have downloaded. Mike On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was intrigued with several earlier posts here, first about free movie > downloads in public domain and then about bittorrent. So I decided to > investigate. > > I found a web site that said that the web browser Opera supported > bittorrent, so I went to a web site that had free downloads with > bittorrent and tried to download one of them using Opera. Downloading > started after a message from Opera that bittorrent required permitting > uploading the same file once it was downloaded, then asked for > permission, and asked for limits to upload & download speed -- I > selected no limit. Didn't matter to me what the content of the > bittorrent file was, just trying to see how it worked. The download > began of a 105 MB bittorrent file with an expected download time of 7 > hours. The estimate has changed, after about 15 minutes, to 3 hours. > > I am connected with Cox cable to the internet. > > Questions: Does Opera actually support bittorrent? If so, why such a > long time to download? A 105 MB file would download in very much less > time without bittorent. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
>Alternatively how about we let the market work - and couple the >consumption of health care to payment for healthcare. Then we will >see a rationalized, but not rationed approach to healthcare. The NRA says "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." So here you are setting up a process that is going to heartlessly kill people. Are you confortable with the killing, with being a murderer? Just like the broadband guys are trying to trick us into believing that there is not enough to go around. The healthcare guys are doing it too. They make the cost so high that people will inevitably die. And they skim lots of money off the top to support their own lavish lifestyles. I'm not willing to accept this machinery of death. I'm also not willing to accept crummy and expensive broadband. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
>What I don't want is the government making the choice about who gets >what. Why do we need a government? Imagine what your school would be like if no one was in charge. Each class would make its own rules. Who gets to use the gym if two classes want to use it at the same time? Who would clean the classrooms? Who decides if you learn about Mars or play kickball? Sounds confusing, right? This is why schools have people who are in charge, such as the principal, administrators, teachers, and staff. Our nation has people who are in charge and they make up the government. http://bensguide.gpo.gov/k-2/government/index.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] bittorrent with Opera
I was intrigued with several earlier posts here, first about free movie downloads in public domain and then about bittorrent. So I decided to investigate. I found a web site that said that the web browser Opera supported bittorrent, so I went to a web site that had free downloads with bittorrent and tried to download one of them using Opera. Downloading started after a message from Opera that bittorrent required permitting uploading the same file once it was downloaded, then asked for permission, and asked for limits to upload & download speed -- I selected no limit. Didn't matter to me what the content of the bittorrent file was, just trying to see how it worked. The download began of a 105 MB bittorrent file with an expected download time of 7 hours. The estimate has changed, after about 15 minutes, to 3 hours. I am connected with Cox cable to the internet. Questions: Does Opera actually support bittorrent? If so, why such a long time to download? A 105 MB file would download in very much less time without bittorent. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] solar battery chargers
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are mistaken. Current technology requires a LOT of light to > generate usable amounts of electricity. > > It's hard to find real data, so let's just take an example from Amazon: > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EQ8WKA#moreAboutThisProduct > Tony, bad example. Not a photovoltaic trickle charger, as betty was talking about. The example from Amazon doesn't mention that it requires a lot of light. If you haven't used these products, why are you so certain of their requirements? Haven't you seen the March issue of Wired Magazine, cover story: *Free! Why $0.00 Is the Future of Business*?? Photovoltaic devices provide free electricity. Free is good. Free is profitable. Free isn't even anticapitalist! I charge AA batteries using a couple of old outdoor solar lamps that I replaced with brighter ones this year. I put the old lamps, minus the posts, on an east-facing window sill in the morning and the batteries are charged by later in the day, even on cloudy days. These are 4-year-old very cheap technology. My point is that the technology has improved to a point where it takes about the same time to charge with a new solar charger as it does with regular electric chargers, 6-8 hours [not the fast-charge type]. Tony, you're looking at old technology. Even old technology works on cloudy days, better on sunny days, but if you're not familiar with the industry or the products, you probably haven't seen or used the more efficient products. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, mike wrote: Correction from me and for youI had read he had taken the mac because of the appeal of the hardware. The register reports that he chose the mac because quote 'I thought of the three it was the easiest'. There's a new article at ComputerWorld reporting essentially the same thing, plus it has a bit more details about the exact hardware and OS revisions being used for each of the 3 target platforms. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9072959&source=NLT_PM&nlid=8 On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Michael Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They wanted to get the Mac because that's where the cred and kudos lie. Any script kiddy can jack up a Windows box. Linux is tougher, as well as the Mac. In fact, they had to relax the rules of the contest after no one got into any of the systems via network. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] solar battery chargers
John Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: Betty, Do you by chance live in Maryland? My wife and I have been discussing going solar with our circa 1905 house and an looking for a reliable solar contractor. John, Go to Chesapeake Climate Action Network, http://chesapeakeclimate.org/. Mike Tidwell has renovated an older home in Takoma Park with solar and renewable energy efficient features. He has an open house every month or so to provide direct information about them and the industry. Solar retrofits are fairly straightforward these days. Info is much easier to find now than 30 years ago when we started, and the state and federal tax incentives are back, finally. Contact me directly if you need more links. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
Yes but those "administration fees" (or kickback or whatever you want to call them) of some of the profits doesn't make the government the party who wanted, proposed and ultimately benefits the most from the creation of a monopoly. Here's an analogy: If money could influence the fundamental regulating rules of baseball, some wealthy/ advertising market rich team, like Steinbrunner's Yankees, would propose that they deserved to have more players on the field than a poorer / smaller media market team. They would do so because the object of the sport is superficially to win more games and with more players on the field, that would happen. Since winning all the time and losing none is the ultimate goal, the ultimate goal would be to outnumber the opposing team in number of players by a 99.99 to .01 ratio. But what would happen to the sport of baseball if that was allowed? For everyone but the Yankees, it wouldn't be an enjoyable sport anymore and no one would want to watch so baseball as a sport would die and sports fans would watch a sport that was fun to watch ... a true sport whose rules regulated the game fairly to make sure that it remained a true competition. And even the Yankees would be out of business in that scenario. Business, like sports, only works if all teams/ business are guaranteed a level playing field and a fair chance to compete and that depends on a neutral umpire/ governance to regulate and enforce the rules that are made to protect everyone's common interest rather than the individual's ability to maximize profit or wins. Matthew Taylor wrote: Because the business interests agree to give the government some of the take in the case of things like cable franchise fees? On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:17 PM, db wrote: What is the motivation for a government to want a monopoly of business? Government ends up granting monopolies after business... who has the maximation of profit/ cornering the market motivation ... eventually gets its way through much lobbying/ dispensing of campaign funds to government etc... It's the businesses that have the motivation and are constantly proposing mergers, not the other way around... db Matthew Taylor wrote: Um, no. Until government stuck its hand in and granted exclusive access via regulation, multiple cable companies had the option of entering a market. Stupid government regulators and politicians bought the false argument that absent a monopoly no one would try to build a system. On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:49 AM, db wrote: Effective regulation IS what prevents monopolies. "Assigned" monopolies have come to be because business interests now fund politicians' elections so they get their way. Bigger and fewer companies makes business more money ... at least in the short term. db Matthew Taylor wrote: Would that it were so easy. I have cable. My choice is that, or dial-up or satellite download dial-up upload. I am too far out in the country for DSL to happen any time soon. What we need is more competition (no more assigned monopolies), not more regulation. I don't think I have a right to a fast net connection. I am willing to pay for one, but currently no one has an incentive to sell me one. On Mar 28, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Anyone who has cable today ought to be searching for and lobbying for getting something in the future that offers a fixed rate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
Correction from me and for youI had read he had taken the mac because of the appeal of the hardware. The register reports that he chose the mac because quote 'I thought of the three it was the easiest'. Mike On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Michael Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They wanted > to get the Mac because that's where the cred and kudos lie. Any script > kiddy can jack up a Windows box. Linux is tougher, as well as the Mac. > In fact, they had to relax the rules of the contest after no one got > into any of the systems via network. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
All three of these OS's have known vulnerabilities to the vendor that aren't patched. All vendors have been in the past warned about holes and done nothing for some time. The standards were 'lowered' to the point of a normal computer take downvisiting a web page. They wanted to get the mac because it was a better piece of hardware then the other systems. And you must not have read the article...it states clearly all contestants sign a NDA until the contest sponsor can notify the vendor (read apple computer) about the vulnerability exposed. If linux and mac os x are harder to crack, then this shows they ain't much harder, and can be taken over the same way most windows machines are cracked. Calm down, man...take a breather. I'm not anti mac...I'd have one if I could justify the cost, I have no problem at all with them...less probably then windows. Mike On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Michael Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You people and your anti-mac zealotry. The fact the MacBook Air was > "hacked" first is only because people at the event didn't bother hacking > the other systems. Other articles quote attendees saying so. They wanted > to get the Mac because that's where the cred and kudos lie. Any script > kiddy can jack up a Windows box. Linux is tougher, as well as the Mac. > In fact, they had to relax the rules of the contest after no one got > into any of the systems via network. Once he could direct organizers to > a website, Miller put into place things he had been working on for a > month or more -- things he could have told Apple about long ago but he > doesn't care about security. He wants hacker fame and free money and > equipment. Even if he believed Apple never plugs security holes, he > could have told them and still done this since lazy ol' Apple wouldn't > have plugged it; but he didn't, because he wanted his name in the news > and a free computer. > > These people are schmucks. If they really cared about us peons out here, > they would hand over their research to Apple, MicroSoft and the rest > rather than sitting back and laughing at us on the way to their banks. > > -- > Michael Lewis > Off Balance Productions > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.offbalance.com > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
You people and your anti-mac zealotry. The fact the MacBook Air was "hacked" first is only because people at the event didn't bother hacking the other systems. Other articles quote attendees saying so. They wanted to get the Mac because that's where the cred and kudos lie. Any script kiddy can jack up a Windows box. Linux is tougher, as well as the Mac. In fact, they had to relax the rules of the contest after no one got into any of the systems via network. Once he could direct organizers to a website, Miller put into place things he had been working on for a month or more -- things he could have told Apple about long ago but he doesn't care about security. He wants hacker fame and free money and equipment. Even if he believed Apple never plugs security holes, he could have told them and still done this since lazy ol' Apple wouldn't have plugged it; but he didn't, because he wanted his name in the news and a free computer. These people are schmucks. If they really cared about us peons out here, they would hand over their research to Apple, MicroSoft and the rest rather than sitting back and laughing at us on the way to their banks. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] standards vs. regulation [was: classic movie downloads]
> What is the motivation for a government to want a monopoly of business? > Government ends up granting monopolies after business... who has the maximation of profit/ cornering the market motivation ... eventually gets its way through much lobbying/ dispensing of campaign funds to government etc... > > It's the businesses that have the motivation and are constantly proposing mergers, not the other way around... > > db Standards and regulation don't necessarily result in monopolies. They result in the choice of providers whose equipment and products can be used together, instead of like the old railroads which used to have a variety of rail sizes/widths, or video tape [VHS vs Beta] or High Def video [Blue-Ray vs HD DVD]. There a plenty of railroads, many companies sold millions of VHS tapes, and Blue Ray can be used by anyone who wants to use it. We're still waiting for the standards to be followed on the Internet by all parties; the Internet is hit and miss in the US because there are still millions of people who can't get broadband service at a level comparable to that in competing countries. Standards which make things better for the consumer, as well as more efficient to manufacture. However when a commodity or service becomes so necessary to society, the consumers' interests must supercede the corporate interests for the preservation of a civil society. Water is in danger of becoming an expensive commodity as private companies buy up water supplies in places like Montana and raise prices to a level that creates high profits, and scarcity that endagers an entire region. The Constitution refers to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Where's the chance for life or happiness without good health? Bottom line is that there would be no need for regulation if corporations didn't go out of the way to abuse workers, as well as customers. Customers sometimes don't have a choice to boycott bad businesses when it's the HMOs or insurance companies that their employers choose for them, or if they can't afford to pay the high rates for health care. Thus, with health insurance, more regulation is necessary because the insurance companies have behaved badly, especially in comparison the the single payer systems elsewhere. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] solar battery chargers
Then you're going to have to enlighten me. It uses solar cells (photovoltaic cells, if you will) to charge a battery at a slow current (trickle charge), so I don't know of a better example. On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:20 PM, John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You are mistaken. Current technology requires a LOT of light to > > generate usable amounts of electricity. > > > > It's hard to find real data, so let's just take an example from Amazon: > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EQ8WKA#moreAboutThisProduct > > > > > Tony, bad example. Not a photovoltaic trickle charger, as betty was talking > about. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
What is sacrosanct about adults? The history books are full of boneheaded, greedy, malicious, absurd, murderous etc. things that ADULTS have done. Other than Lizzie Borden, I can't think of too many children who have created the calamities that humanity has experienced. The advantage of collaboration and group think (in this case representative government/ regulation) ... is that history has shown that usually ... not always ... bringing more minds to bear in the decision and management process makes for a better outcome for most people. The trade-off in this kind "let's try to do better" of arrangement is that not everyone gets to do just what they want to do. Representative government came to be after thousands of years of "laissez faire" whoever is the fastest, strongest, meanest, smartest rules proved that didn't work. Kings and their friend were rich and everybody else was poor and nothing changed or was advanced very quickly. The main reason the Fed bailed out Stearns is because Stearn's business was tied contractually to so many other companies/ banks etc in our economy. If the Fed allowed it to collapse it could easily have caused enough other businesses to fail that the US economy would have tumbled into a depression, which in turn could have tumbled the world economy into the same. Most adults invested in real estate in the last decade or so because it was the only investment tool they had which could produce decent returns. They trusted the institutions to let them know if they qualified for doing so because that is what lending institutions have the expertise to traditionally do. When you arrange for a lawyer to conduct your legal affairs, is it expected that you also understand the details of the law? People trusted the banking industry to act like professionals but they were misled. Jeff Wright wrote: John--I'm not giving the banks a pass on this, but I've grown weary of the violin strings played for adults who didn't even begin to have the resources or were in any sort of position to buy a house, but absolutely had to have a house, well, because everyone else was getting one. If you want to make excuses for people who got in over their heads with something they didn't understand or didn't try to understand, but did anyway, be my guest. The banks bear their own responsibility as well, of course. They don't deserve a bail-out either. If they truly defrauded borrowers, not just talk someone into a bad deal, they deserve jail. Otherwise, let them go out of business if they made too many high-risk loans that went sour on them. -Original Message- Yes, but the people losing their homes now had plenty of paycheck to cover their mortgage payment *at the time they got the mortgage*. What the banks and investment houses did that was fiscally irresponsible was to give out or invest in mortgages that would only work as long as rates stayed down and home prices continued to rise. The loans didn't make any sense when they were made. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
Apple has released 4 security updates in March, http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222. I got a notice for a Mozilla SeaMonkey security update today. Firefox updated earlier this week, also Thunderbird. These are for all platforms http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html Betty Incorrect...or misleading at least. They didn't 'follow a script' at least not if you want to be clear to the peanut gallery. They visited a web page that was infected...you know the kind of stuff that never happens. Good thing macs don't use web pages. Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: OK than why were there are more doctors, and more CT scan machines and MRI scan machines per capita than any other nation we pay more for our health care? Because we want those services on demand, whether we actually need them or not, since the consumers are largely not the payers, and the providers have every incentive to order every test they can get paid for. In many areas we have more Doctors per person than many other nations. (In urban areas, rural is another story) Yet again we pay more than any other nation. And our Dr's are paid better than most, offsetting in part their costs of education and costs of doing business. It is not always the case that when the government sticks their hand in it is worse or better. Never said it was. There are things gov't does best. Managing markets is not one of them. For Cable and media such as this you must have a common backbone and an infrastructure. No. You must have an interconnected infrastructure - not the same thing at all. Many of our folks do not build fiber optic lines, someone else does and the companies lease from them. Same with Cell towers etc. Yup. Why is this a problem? When it comes to local cable systems and Telephone systems one infrastructure is needed. Who will pay for it? No - see above. The potential users should pay for it naturally. If one company pays for the infrastructure your damn straight they will demand a certain percentage of return from it. Of course. They should not be guaranteed this return by the government unless the government is the principal user. In the early days of telephone the Government gave AT&T (the old one) a monopoly to run wires across the US to build a phone system. No, they did not to my knowledge. There were lots of mom & pop local phone companies. At one time ours was the best in the world. Largely because the rest of the world had had thier infrastructure leveled by WWII or had previously lacked the infrastructure to build the tools to build one. Then we broke up monopolies (Which had very strict government regulations governing them) and we complain all the time about our phone service. We complain mostly about the price, not about its working, even though costs for the same level of service are way, way down. Capitalism doe not always work, but neither does full governmental control. How do you define work? It must be a balanced approach that takes into account Mr. & Mrs. Smith no matter what their socio-economic status and what needs to be provided at a minimum. There is the catch - "what needs to be provided at a minimum". Who decides, the government or the market? Matthew * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
Because the business interests agree to give the government some of the take in the case of things like cable franchise fees? On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:17 PM, db wrote: What is the motivation for a government to want a monopoly of business? Government ends up granting monopolies after business... who has the maximation of profit/ cornering the market motivation ... eventually gets its way through much lobbying/ dispensing of campaign funds to government etc... It's the businesses that have the motivation and are constantly proposing mergers, not the other way around... db Matthew Taylor wrote: Um, no. Until government stuck its hand in and granted exclusive access via regulation, multiple cable companies had the option of entering a market. Stupid government regulators and politicians bought the false argument that absent a monopoly no one would try to build a system. On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:49 AM, db wrote: Effective regulation IS what prevents monopolies. "Assigned" monopolies have come to be because business interests now fund politicians' elections so they get their way. Bigger and fewer companies makes business more money ... at least in the short term. db Matthew Taylor wrote: Would that it were so easy. I have cable. My choice is that, or dial-up or satellite download dial-up upload. I am too far out in the country for DSL to happen any time soon. What we need is more competition (no more assigned monopolies), not more regulation. I don't think I have a right to a fast net connection. I am willing to pay for one, but currently no one has an incentive to sell me one. On Mar 28, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Anyone who has cable today ought to be searching for and lobbying for getting something in the future that offers a fixed rate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
What is the motivation for a government to want a monopoly of business? Government ends up granting monopolies after business... who has the maximation of profit/ cornering the market motivation ... eventually gets its way through much lobbying/ dispensing of campaign funds to government etc... It's the businesses that have the motivation and are constantly proposing mergers, not the other way around... db Matthew Taylor wrote: Um, no. Until government stuck its hand in and granted exclusive access via regulation, multiple cable companies had the option of entering a market. Stupid government regulators and politicians bought the false argument that absent a monopoly no one would try to build a system. On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:49 AM, db wrote: Effective regulation IS what prevents monopolies. "Assigned" monopolies have come to be because business interests now fund politicians' elections so they get their way. Bigger and fewer companies makes business more money ... at least in the short term. db Matthew Taylor wrote: Would that it were so easy. I have cable. My choice is that, or dial-up or satellite download dial-up upload. I am too far out in the country for DSL to happen any time soon. What we need is more competition (no more assigned monopolies), not more regulation. I don't think I have a right to a fast net connection. I am willing to pay for one, but currently no one has an incentive to sell me one. On Mar 28, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Anyone who has cable today ought to be searching for and lobbying for getting something in the future that offers a fixed rate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
Well, I read it, and in fact your summary was not accurate at all, unless by "script" you mean "he directed the contest's organizers to visit a Web site" Pretty short script. This has nothing to do with Windows fan boys. There seems little doubt that the Vista and Linux machines were also eventually hacked as well. The point was that, contrary to what Apple fan boys love to say, the Mac was vulnerable. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
OK than why were there are more doctors, and more CT scan machines and MRI scan machines per capita than any other nation we pay more for our health care? In many areas we have more Doctors per person than many other nations. (In urban areas, rural is another story) Yet again we pay more than any other nation. It is not always the case that when the government sticks their hand in it is worse or better. For Cable and media such as this you must have a common backbone and an infrastructure. Many of our folks do not build fiber optic lines, someone else does and the companies lease from them. Same with Cell towers etc. When it comes to local cable systems and Telephone systems one infrastructure is needed. Who will pay for it? If one company pays for the infrastructure your damn straight they will demand a certain percentage of return from it. In the early days of telephone the Government gave AT&T (the old one) a monopoly to run wires across the US to build a phone system. At one time ours was the best in the world. Then we broke up monopolies (Which had very strict government regulations governing them) and we complain all the time about our phone service. Capitalism doe not always work, but neither does full governmental control. It must be a balanced approach that takes into account Mr. & Mrs. Smith no matter what their socio-economic status and what needs to be provided at a minimum. Stewart At 11:41 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote: Um, no. Until government stuck its hand in and granted exclusive access via regulation, multiple cable companies had the option of entering a market. Stupid government regulators and politicians bought the false argument that absent a monopoly no one would try to build a system. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] E&C SIG "EXTRA": Virtual Office, Apr. 5
Capital PC User Group (CPCUG) Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG (E&C SIG) "Extra" Seminar and Discussion-- CREATING AND MANAGING A VIRTUAL OFFICE: An IT Entrepreneur Shares His Secrets to Success Speaker: Naseem F. Saab, President, Results Software When: Saturday, April 5, 2008, 1:30-3:30 pm (Check-in: Starts at 1:00 pm) Where: Bethesda (location to be announced after registration close) Attendee Limit: 20 Cost: $15, CPCUG Members (nonmembers, $25). Advance registration and payment required. In recent years we've heard the term "virtual office." What exactly does the term mean? How is it different from a home office? How do its practitioners differ from general contractors? Is a virtual office just a way to start your business, or can it be your model throughout the life of your organization? During this presentation, the founder and owner of a 22-year-old consulting and software company will share his thoughts on the advantages and disadvantages of going the virtual office route. He will explain why a virtual office was the right model for his company for 20 years: o Why he chose the virtual office model o Why it was better for staff o Why it was better for clients o How it helped his company stay competitive o How it helped his company be successful o What changed--why, after 20 years, his company opened an office outside his home Attendees will also get tips on leveraging technology to help grow their businesses, and on communicating with contractors, clients, and prospects remotely and face to face. There will be ample time for Q&A, so gather your questions. Attendees will have a chance to share their own experiences with the virtual office model. Speaker: In his role as president of Results Software, Naseem F. Saab has helped small business owners streamline their operations, increase efficiency, and improve customer relationships. As a result of his management experience and business philosophies, he has become a recognized innovator in providing solutions to small and mid-size businesses. Prior to founding Results Software, Naseem was an experienced and successful project manager, programmer, analyst, system interface designer, and database expert. Naseem graduated from San Francisco State University with a degree in electro-mechanical engineering. He has designed, prepared, and delivered many training courses. Naseem is a frequent speaker on topics including growth strategies, office automation, leveraging customer relationship management (CRM) to boost sales, and streamlining business processes. A long-time member of CPCUG, and former chair of its Clipper SIG, Naseem gave a TechBrief for CPCUG's Entrepreneurs and Consultants SIG on "Why You Should Treat Your Clients and Customers Like Prospects." Recognizing the need of small business to maximize the efficiency of limited resources, Naseem Saab, in 1986, developed and launched the software application he named Results, integrating scalable CRM capabilities with critical business management functions to control critical customer management details from initial contact to final payment. Specific functions include contact management, time and activity tracking, billing and invoicing, payment collection, inventory management, work group calendar, document management, and reporting. Naseem may be contacted at via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] REGISTRATION: o Limited to first 20 who register and pay. o Must register by Wednesday, April 2, 2008. o To register: Call the CPCUG office at (301) 560-6442 during business hours. (If you get an answering machine, please leave a message with the best time(s) to return your call.) o After the 20 available spots are filled, a waiting list will be started. If you register and can't attend, please call the CPCUG office. Someone else may be able to attend in your place. For more information, visit: http://entrepreneur.cpcug.org/workshops.html#vo *** Future FREE CPCUG E&C SIG Events: Saturday, April 19, 2008, 1:00-3:15 pm INVENTING BASICS: Getting Started As an Independent Inventor Speaker: David Whiteis, Microsoft Certified Networking Engineer, BubbleRings.com Saturday, May 17, 2008, 1:00-3:15 pm WIKINOMICS AND MASS COLLABORATION Speaker: Julia Loughran, President, ThoughtLink, Inc. Saturday, June 21, 2008, 1:00-3:15 pm FINANCIAL PLANNING FOR BUSINESS OWNERS Brian Thomas, CFP, Financial Advisor, Ameriprise Financial Services, Inc. Saturday, July 19, 2008, 1:00-3:15 pm Topic and Speaker: To Be Announced Saturday, August 16, 2008, 1:00-3:15 pm WINDOWS MAINTENANCE AND COMPUTER TROUBLESHOOTING Speaker: Dennis Courtney, President, CPCUG Saturday, September 20, 2008, 1:00-3:15 pm THE LIGHTGLOVE VIRTUAL CONTROLLER: On the Journey From Inventor's Dream to Market Speaker: MG Howard, CEO, Lightglove Saturday, October 18, 2008, 1:00-3:15 pm CHOOSING THE LEGAL STRUCTURE FOR YOUR BUSINES
Re: [CGUYS] solar battery chargers
Has anyone on the list heard of Citizenre? http://renu.citizenre.com/
Someone told me about this company a couple years ago. They rent solar panels
to homeowners and the electricity produced by the panels is offset against the
amount of power purchased from the power company. I don't think my house would
work because of the way it is oriented.
You have to live in a state or jurisdiction that allows net-metering (credit
for power sold back to the power company). Other restrictions, of course,
apply.
The company sends someone out to your house to make sure it is a suitable
location: ("Your house should have a roof with enough space to accommodate the
REnU as well as have an unobstructed, south facing flat or sloped roof. This
may not always be necessary; however, in order to ensure that you are eligible,
this prerequisite should be adhered to.")
The homeowner rents the panels for a fixed term (1, 5 or 25 years). The rent
paid for the panel depends on the amount of power the panel will produce.
Also from the FAQ:
Q. What exactly do I pay? How is that calculated?
A. You pay a flat monthly rent for the use of the solar equipment. For that
rent, you get to use all the electricity that your system produces. You are
actually producing your own power from the sun. Our system designer will go
through your past energy bills. Then, if you are interested, they will walk
through your house and show you how to save energy.
Taking all this into consideration, they will calculate how much electricity
your REnU will need to produce in order to best serve your needs. They will
then design the system to supply that energy. You simply pay a flat monthly
rent. Because of our Performance Guarantee, you have no worries. The system
will work as promised or your monthly rent will be reduced accordingly through
an audit at the end of the year.
FAQ section is: http://renu.citizenre.com/index.php?p=edu_faq
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Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
How about we don't have that myriad of regulations in the first place? Yes, if you subsidize an air line you can have great service at a reasonable price by not charging customers what the service costs. That is called soaking the taxpayer for services they are not using. I will pass thank you. On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: In this case what is needed is a monopoly with standards set nationally not locally. Also what will be needed is subsidy tog et it out to the areas where it cannot get to right now. One of the biggest problems any commercial enterprise will run into is the myriad of regulations they have to face. (See Supreme Court decision re: New Yorks Passenger rights) If there was one standard set high enough for everyone to reach, and the means given by where they can provide that standard it would be great. Many of the European enterprise started off as government run and owned enterprises. They were at one time subsidized by the government but had to meet only one standard. Why do you think British Airways, Air France, and Lufthansa are always rated as one of the better airlines? They are all subsidized by the government and have to meet their standard plus international (Which their government meets or exceeds already) It has only been within the last few years that more than one telephone company existed in many of these counties. Only after they set up the infrastructure and set the standards. And by the way I am not saying that is bad. I think in many ways it is good. I think one of the problems here in America we have is way too much independent sprit that gets in the way of cooperation and innovation. Why is our educational system in such a disarray. You can blame no child left behind, but it goes deeper than that. (As someone who has moved between states) Each state has its own standards. When we moved from Wisconsin to Tennessee, they would not let my kids attend school until I had gone to the local Health department and had my kids shot records transferred over to the state standard form. Luckily my children were just beginning High School or they would have had to go an extra year, as the course structure and standards for graduation were different. When we moved to Alabama the same thing again. Only this time my one son had to double up on a few courses as he had not taken courses required for graduation in Alabama but not required in Tennessee. Phone companies have to meet 50 different standards to do business in each state. Cable companies have to meet thousands of standards to do business in each municipality. (it is even worse as the local kickbacks that have to be paid - not illegal they are called franchise fees) So I am all for setting of national standards to be met by all the companies offering Internet service. Set them and help those locals that are removed or far off meet them. (In Canada and even in the US, some communities are offering tax incentives for Doctors to locate in their area. Even giving them free rent etc. to serve their area.) Stewart At 08:54 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote: Would that it were so easy. I have cable. My choice is that, or dial-up or satellite download dial-up upload. I am too far out in the country for DSL to happen any time soon. What we need is more competition (no more assigned monopolies), not more regulation. I don't think I have a right to a fast net connection. I am willing to pay for one, but currently no one has an incentive to sell me one. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
Um, no. Until government stuck its hand in and granted exclusive access via regulation, multiple cable companies had the option of entering a market. Stupid government regulators and politicians bought the false argument that absent a monopoly no one would try to build a system. On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:49 AM, db wrote: Effective regulation IS what prevents monopolies. "Assigned" monopolies have come to be because business interests now fund politicians' elections so they get their way. Bigger and fewer companies makes business more money ... at least in the short term. db Matthew Taylor wrote: Would that it were so easy. I have cable. My choice is that, or dial-up or satellite download dial-up upload. I am too far out in the country for DSL to happen any time soon. What we need is more competition (no more assigned monopolies), not more regulation. I don't think I have a right to a fast net connection. I am willing to pay for one, but currently no one has an incentive to sell me one. On Mar 28, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Anyone who has cable today ought to be searching for and lobbying for getting something in the future that offers a fixed rate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
I think that for starters we have a different definition of "rationed" This is from http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=rationed Verb S: (v) ration (restrict the consumption of a relatively scarce commodity, as during war) "Bread was rationed during the siege of the city" S: (v) ration, ration out (distribute in rations, as in the army) "Cigarettes are rationed" Adjective S: (adj) rationed (distributed equitably in limited individual portions) "got along as best we could on rationed meat and sugar" No one is rationing health care, that is there is no one who is restricting the consumption of healthcare to those wanting to purchase it. What arguably is being rationed is free money from the government to pay for healthcare - the government sets limits on what they will pay for and who is eligible to get the free (to them) money. I think it is true, but am open to persuasion that this is not so, that the increase in the share of the economy controlled by the government since the new deal has decreased the total charitable giving in the country. Perhaps if the government left us more of our own resources we could and would give more to charity of our choice? Once the government starts performing a function many folks will think that the function is now paid for by their taxes and thus is no longer a concern of theirs, displacing the charitable impulse. Wo what is your solution? How large a share of the economy, of GDP say, do we grant the government to provide every need you think worthy? 25%? 30%? More? Is there any principle that would limit your willingness to surrender to the government for your or others "own good"? Alternatively how about we let the market work - and couple the consumption of health care to payment for healthcare. Then we will see a rationalized, but not rationed approach to healthcare. On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Constance Warner wrote: The plain truth is that private charity and religious foundations can't possibly cope with the health care needs of people without insurance or who have inadequate health insurance. There are too many people needing too much care--even simple things like having a tooth pulled--let alone things like getting insulin, if they're diabetic. Or major surgery, such as an appendectomy or a lumpectomy. Cf: look at the difficulties that charities and religious organizations are having coping with widespread but much less expensive needs and projects--such as food pantries and soup kitchens. There are more and more people needing services, and the funding is either stable or diminishing. It's hard to see how the charities can afford to give out free or low-cost appendectomies to everyone who needs one, if they can no longer afford to give out as many free peanut-butter sandwiches as are needed. Providing all the care that is "wanted and needed"? Given current conditions, that's a fantasy. I don't know what criteria the charities will use to ration the care--to decide who gets the emergency care and who doesn't--but I don't envy them, with hard choices like that. How would YOU like to look a breast cancer patient in the face and tell them, "I'm sorry, we didn't get enough donations this month; come back next month, when your cancer may be incurable, and maybe we can operate then"? What makes it doubly sad is that most of the people who need care have held up THEIR end of the social contract: they work hard, pay taxes, and don't get into trouble. A large percentage of the people who need care are the working poor; an increasing number are solidly middle-class. Don't try to tell THEM that medical care isn't rationed. --Constance Warner On Mar 28, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Matthew Taylor wrote: Yes, if you want to assume that there is no charity in the US. No religious hospitals that will care for the uninsured, no children's hospitals providing endowment / other sourced care. The issue is should the power of government compulsion be used to pay for care, which WILL result in government deciding what care is provided, or should the private sector, including private charity provide care based on what is wanted and needed. Matthew On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:04 PM, katan wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:28:14 -0400, Matthew Taylor wrote: To be rationed requires that there be a shortage of supply. There is no shortage of supply for those able to pay - if you can afford the procedure you will get the procedure in the US (organ donations being And those that can't afford it can just go away and die. Yes? -- R:\katan * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Turn out Your Lights - Saturday Night (8-9 pm)
Subject: Turn out Your Lights - Tomorrow Night (8-9 pm)  Join millions of people around the world in making a statement about climate change by turning off your lights tomorrow night from 8-9 p.m. for Earth Hour, an event created by the World Wildlife Fund. Earth Hour was created by WWF in Sydney, Australia in 2007, and in one year has grown from an event in one city to a global movement. http://www3.earthhourus.org/ Hi everyone... I think they're asking for house lights, no cars, and other power users for one hour. Consider using the time to determine your contribution to mitigating global climate change. Regards, Bill Bill L'Hommedieu DESIGNSENSE 4013 North 18th Road Arlington, Virginia 22207 703.527.5491 Fax 703.842.6020 Yes, America, Good design does make sense! Economic policy... and now the piper is looking to be paid. "Our enormously productive economy… demands that we make consumption our way of life, that we convert the buying and use of goods into rituals, that we seek our spiritual satisfaction, our ego satisfaction, in consumption… We need things consumed, burned up, worn out, replaced, and discarded at an ever increasing rate." - Victor Lebow, Chairman of President Eisenhower's Board of Economic Advisors, 1955 Check out this link: www.storyofstuff.com for a direct and dramatic explanation of the chain of production, consumption, and excess in our country, and the way out. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
That's ok, it's even worse for those who get into it with blinded mac zealots who have trouble denying realities. I would have posted the results of all the machines but at the time there were none, I would have been just as happy to post that the vista or linux box got taken in 30 seconds. Although given a choice I'd have gone at the mac first too...i mean who would want anything but a free macbook air and ten grand? Google more today, still can't find out about vista and linux boxes...can't imagine they weren't picked clean though. Mike On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Incorrect...or misleading at least. They didn't 'follow a script' at > least > >not if you want to be clear to the peanut gallery... > > I do not want to get into another pissing contest with dyslexic Windows > fan boys. This is the link you provided... > > >> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20080327/tc_infoworld/96676 > > Everyone can read the story and see for themselves that my summary was > accurate. > > I'm sure more details will be published in the next few days and > programmers will then discuss the significance or lack thereof. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] solar battery chargers
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are mistaken. Current technology requires a LOT of light to > generate usable amounts of electricity. > > It's hard to find real data, so let's just take an example from Amazon: > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EQ8WKA#moreAboutThisProduct > Tony, bad example. Not a photovoltaic trickle charger, as betty was talking about. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
In this case what is needed is a monopoly with standards set nationally not locally. Also what will be needed is subsidy tog et it out to the areas where it cannot get to right now. One of the biggest problems any commercial enterprise will run into is the myriad of regulations they have to face. (See Supreme Court decision re: New Yorks Passenger rights) If there was one standard set high enough for everyone to reach, and the means given by where they can provide that standard it would be great. Many of the European enterprise started off as government run and owned enterprises. They were at one time subsidized by the government but had to meet only one standard. Why do you think British Airways, Air France, and Lufthansa are always rated as one of the better airlines? They are all subsidized by the government and have to meet their standard plus international (Which their government meets or exceeds already) It has only been within the last few years that more than one telephone company existed in many of these counties. Only after they set up the infrastructure and set the standards. And by the way I am not saying that is bad. I think in many ways it is good. I think one of the problems here in America we have is way too much independent sprit that gets in the way of cooperation and innovation. Why is our educational system in such a disarray. You can blame no child left behind, but it goes deeper than that. (As someone who has moved between states) Each state has its own standards. When we moved from Wisconsin to Tennessee, they would not let my kids attend school until I had gone to the local Health department and had my kids shot records transferred over to the state standard form. Luckily my children were just beginning High School or they would have had to go an extra year, as the course structure and standards for graduation were different. When we moved to Alabama the same thing again. Only this time my one son had to double up on a few courses as he had not taken courses required for graduation in Alabama but not required in Tennessee. Phone companies have to meet 50 different standards to do business in each state. Cable companies have to meet thousands of standards to do business in each municipality. (it is even worse as the local kickbacks that have to be paid - not illegal they are called franchise fees) So I am all for setting of national standards to be met by all the companies offering Internet service. Set them and help those locals that are removed or far off meet them. (In Canada and even in the US, some communities are offering tax incentives for Doctors to locate in their area. Even giving them free rent etc. to serve their area.) Stewart At 08:54 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote: Would that it were so easy. I have cable. My choice is that, or dial-up or satellite download dial-up upload. I am too far out in the country for DSL to happen any time soon. What we need is more competition (no more assigned monopolies), not more regulation. I don't think I have a right to a fast net connection. I am willing to pay for one, but currently no one has an incentive to sell me one. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] solar battery chargers
You are mistaken. Current technology requires a LOT of light to generate usable amounts of electricity. It's hard to find real data, so let's just take an example from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EQ8WKA#moreAboutThisProduct >From the ad copy: >Charging 2 AA (or AAA) batteries in only 10 hours, this is one of the the fastest AA/AAA solar chargers money can buy! Now, assuming they've put the best possible 'light' on the product, that means 10 hours of full sunlight just to charge 2 small batteries. Multiply that by many times to recharge the much larger batteries on a FIOS device. Multiply that by x times if the sunlight is diffused. Sorry, but it's just not practical with today's solar cells; they're just too inefficient. BTW I don't even want to bring up that if you're getting that much direct sunlight in summer you're spending a fortune in air conditioning to offset it. Silly to try to compare 2 AA batteries to your AC draw. PS Solar homes have NOTHING to do with solar battery chargers. For god's sake take 2 seconds and CHANGE YOUR SUBJECT LINES please. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:51 PM, betty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've lived in a solar house since 1980. We have at least 100 trees. From > my experience with passive and active systems, all you need is > daylight--sun, clouds, rain or snowy weather, direct or reflected > light--to produce enough electricity to run a battery charger, or > produce enough electricity to run most home appliances, including > recharging a laptop; same weather conditions apply for heating and cooling. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
Effective regulation IS what prevents monopolies. "Assigned" monopolies have come to be because business interests now fund politicians' elections so they get their way. Bigger and fewer companies makes business more money ... at least in the short term. db Matthew Taylor wrote: Would that it were so easy. I have cable. My choice is that, or dial-up or satellite download dial-up upload. I am too far out in the country for DSL to happen any time soon. What we need is more competition (no more assigned monopolies), not more regulation. I don't think I have a right to a fast net connection. I am willing to pay for one, but currently no one has an incentive to sell me one. On Mar 28, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Anyone who has cable today ought to be searching for and lobbying for getting something in the future that offers a fixed rate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
The plain truth is that private charity and religious foundations can't possibly cope with the health care needs of people without insurance or who have inadequate health insurance. There are too many people needing too much care--even simple things like having a tooth pulled--let alone things like getting insulin, if they're diabetic. Or major surgery, such as an appendectomy or a lumpectomy. Cf: look at the difficulties that charities and religious organizations are having coping with widespread but much less expensive needs and projects--such as food pantries and soup kitchens. There are more and more people needing services, and the funding is either stable or diminishing. It's hard to see how the charities can afford to give out free or low-cost appendectomies to everyone who needs one, if they can no longer afford to give out as many free peanut-butter sandwiches as are needed. Providing all the care that is "wanted and needed"? Given current conditions, that's a fantasy. I don't know what criteria the charities will use to ration the care--to decide who gets the emergency care and who doesn't--but I don't envy them, with hard choices like that. How would YOU like to look a breast cancer patient in the face and tell them, "I'm sorry, we didn't get enough donations this month; come back next month, when your cancer may be incurable, and maybe we can operate then"? What makes it doubly sad is that most of the people who need care have held up THEIR end of the social contract: they work hard, pay taxes, and don't get into trouble. A large percentage of the people who need care are the working poor; an increasing number are solidly middle-class. Don't try to tell THEM that medical care isn't rationed. --Constance Warner On Mar 28, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Matthew Taylor wrote: Yes, if you want to assume that there is no charity in the US. No religious hospitals that will care for the uninsured, no children's hospitals providing endowment / other sourced care. The issue is should the power of government compulsion be used to pay for care, which WILL result in government deciding what care is provided, or should the private sector, including private charity provide care based on what is wanted and needed. Matthew On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:04 PM, katan wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:28:14 -0400, Matthew Taylor wrote: To be rationed requires that there be a shortage of supply. There is no shortage of supply for those able to pay - if you can afford the procedure you will get the procedure in the US (organ donations being And those that can't afford it can just go away and die. Yes? -- R:\katan ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] solar battery chargers
I would love to find reliable solar in MD with an affordable up front cost. Basically if I have to finance it, I need the electricity I am not buying from the power co. to generate enough savings to make the payments on the solar financing. On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:17 AM, John Settle wrote: Betty, Do you by chance live in Maryland? My wife and I have been discussing going solar with our circa 1905 house and an looking for a reliable solar contractor. betty wrote: And what about Windows users who are perpetually in the dark? >The price for those panels is lower >than some of the new cable/ DSL/ADSL modems. Searched online and found >one that retails at $44.99, and another for $37.95; will be much less if >bundled with FIOS service boxes. Betty: Is this packaged in a way that will allow a DIY installation? First time I saw photovoltaic trickle chargers for 12V batteries was at a Volkswagen dealer. They had the chargers plugged into many of the cars on their lot, with the PV panel on the dashboard. I'd guess they might have some kind of deal from the German government where homeowners and businesses are given incentives to install PV panels on their buildings to generate electricity. These panels are integrated roofing, like tiles [search SunSlate], not big panels bolted to the roof, as were used 20 years ago. Initially the equivalent cost of energy from PV was around 40 cents per kw hour while power companies charged 10 cents/kwh. Government paid the difference to the customers. Cost has gone down to 30 cents, 20 cents, and is expected to reach parity within 5 years. After that the electricity from PV panels will be free. I didn't look at the brand that they were using, but I could ask the VW dealer, or you could ask a dealer that uses them. I got the prices by using a search engine. These chargers plug into the cigarette lighter in a car. The laptop chargers were well over $200 when I looked for one several years ago and are still expensive, but chargers for cell phones and iPods can be found for under $40. And, yes, the battery chargers are easy to set up. Some models are even sold in the online NPR shop and many other places on the Internets. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] solar battery chargers
Betty, Do you by chance live in Maryland? My wife and I have been discussing going solar with our circa 1905 house and an looking for a reliable solar contractor. betty wrote: And what about Windows users who are perpetually in the dark? >The price for those panels is lower >than some of the new cable/DSL/ADSL modems. Searched online and found >one that retails at $44.99, and another for $37.95; will be much less if >bundled with FIOS service boxes. Betty: Is this packaged in a way that will allow a DIY installation? First time I saw photovoltaic trickle chargers for 12V batteries was at a Volkswagen dealer. They had the chargers plugged into many of the cars on their lot, with the PV panel on the dashboard. I'd guess they might have some kind of deal from the German government where homeowners and businesses are given incentives to install PV panels on their buildings to generate electricity. These panels are integrated roofing, like tiles [search SunSlate], not big panels bolted to the roof, as were used 20 years ago. Initially the equivalent cost of energy from PV was around 40 cents per kw hour while power companies charged 10 cents/kwh. Government paid the difference to the customers. Cost has gone down to 30 cents, 20 cents, and is expected to reach parity within 5 years. After that the electricity from PV panels will be free. I didn't look at the brand that they were using, but I could ask the VW dealer, or you could ask a dealer that uses them. I got the prices by using a search engine. These chargers plug into the cigarette lighter in a car. The laptop chargers were well over $200 when I looked for one several years ago and are still expensive, but chargers for cell phones and iPods can be found for under $40. And, yes, the battery chargers are easy to set up. Some models are even sold in the online NPR shop and many other places on the Internets. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
Every nation rations health care, by some criteria. In Canada everyone has the same health insurance. The rationing comes in with Hospital care/procedures. Their hospitals are flat funded. Which means if it is funded for 400 CT scans a year that is all it performs. The Doctors then have to figure out which of the 800 patients they want to have a CT scan will get it. The most critical, or the everyday? The elderly or the young et. etc.. Here in the states it comes down to $$ it is a proven statistic that the ones with the better health plans which usually involve more money have better health care. They can have more tests run etc. etc. Do not get sick in America without health insurance. The medical/health care industry is one (Not the only) of the leading reasons for Bankruptcies. (MSN had an interesting article that if you discounted or removed health care filings from peoples credit reports, they had much better scores) Many countries have chosen models similar to Canada (which is socialized health insurance, not medical care.) Stewart At 09:43 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote: In your scenario, people are either middle-class (high, medium, or low) or charity cases. The truth is a large portion of the U.S. is poor: due to age, education, unemployment, immigration status, whatever. Some of these people work, own cars, and some even own their own homes. Out of to pride, habit, or ignorance, they choose not to present themselves for charity - they skimp and do without, instead. Those with health problems, eventually become a statistic. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
So is it the governments job to save those in need of help the task of asking for help? Should the government make all our health choices for us? Many people with insurance choose to avoid presenting themselves for care for a variety of reasons and become a statistic. Is that a government problem beyond perhaps a public health education issue? On Mar 28, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Ralph wrote: In your scenario, people are either middle-class (high, medium, or low) or charity cases. The truth is a large portion of the U.S. is poor: due to age, education, unemployment, immigration status, whatever. Some of these people work, own cars, and some even own their own homes. Out of to pride, habit, or ignorance, they choose not to present themselves for charity - they skimp and do without, instead. Those with health problems, eventually become a statistic. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
In your scenario, people are either middle-class (high, medium, or low) or charity cases. The truth is a large portion of the U.S. is poor: due to age, education, unemployment, immigration status, whatever. Some of these people work, own cars, and some even own their own homes. Out of to pride, habit, or ignorance, they choose not to present themselves for charity - they skimp and do without, instead. Those with health problems, eventually become a statistic. On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Matthew Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, if you want to assume that there is no charity in the US. No > religious hospitals that will care for the uninsured, no children's > hospitals providing endowment / other sourced care. > > The issue is should the power of government compulsion be used to pay > for care, which WILL result in government deciding what care is > provided, or should the private sector, including private charity > provide care based on what is wanted and needed. > > Matthew > > > On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:04 PM, katan wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:28:14 -0400, Matthew Taylor wrote: > > > >> To be rationed requires that there be a shortage of supply. There > >> is > >> no shortage of supply for those able to pay - if you can afford the > >> procedure you will get the procedure in the US (organ donations being > > > > And those that can't afford it can just go away and die. Yes? > > > > -- > > R:\katan > > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
Would that it were so easy. I have cable. My choice is that, or dial-up or satellite download dial-up upload. I am too far out in the country for DSL to happen any time soon. What we need is more competition (no more assigned monopolies), not more regulation. I don't think I have a right to a fast net connection. I am willing to pay for one, but currently no one has an incentive to sell me one. On Mar 28, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Anyone who has cable today ought to be searching for and lobbying for getting something in the future that offers a fixed rate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
Yes, if you want to assume that there is no charity in the US. No religious hospitals that will care for the uninsured, no children's hospitals providing endowment / other sourced care. The issue is should the power of government compulsion be used to pay for care, which WILL result in government deciding what care is provided, or should the private sector, including private charity provide care based on what is wanted and needed. Matthew On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:04 PM, katan wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:28:14 -0400, Matthew Taylor wrote: To be rationed requires that there be a shortage of supply. There is no shortage of supply for those able to pay - if you can afford the procedure you will get the procedure in the US (organ donations being And those that can't afford it can just go away and die. Yes? -- R:\katan * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
>Incorrect...or misleading at least. They didn't 'follow a script' at least >not if you want to be clear to the peanut gallery... I do not want to get into another pissing contest with dyslexic Windows fan boys. This is the link you provided... >> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20080327/tc_infoworld/96676 Everyone can read the story and see for themselves that my summary was accurate. I'm sure more details will be published in the next few days and programmers will then discuss the significance or lack thereof. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
Did I say that only money matters? What I don't want is the government making the choice about who gets what. On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:34 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: I do not understand the idea that every improvement, no matter how expensive, must be affordable by all, and if not some injustice has occurred. I do not understand your belief that money is the criterion to use to determine who lives and who dies. Why not favor those with higher IQs? Why not favor those who lead saintly lives? Why not favor one race over another? Why not favor one sex over the other? Why is it only money that counts? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:34 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: I do not understand your belief that money is the criterion to use to determine who lives and who dies. Why not favor those with higher IQs? Why not favor those who lead saintly lives? Why not favor one race over another? Why not favor one sex over the other? Why is it only money that counts? I think the short answer as to why it is only money that counts is because our nation is run as a society based almost entirely upon the precepts of capitalism. One can take note of how our media generally rate the potential of a Presidential candidate to be nominated based upon how much money they have raised. As to how this relates to computers, one could posit the premise that Macs are superior because they cost more. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
>In my case, there isn't always enough pie to go around. >In the last 6 months, my cablemodem connection that I have had for >years, now gets drug down at certain times of day or night to pokey >speeds by a bunch of local 20 somethings... Well I won't be resentful of their youth. I also don't think you should be resentful of their being ahead of the technological curve. Using the Internet to move large video files is the future. Heck, just a decade ago they were saying the same thing about moving large *audio* files. Remember when people were complaining about Napster clogging up the Internet? This ties into the "Why not the US?" thread... >John--I'm not giving the banks a pass on this, but I've grown weary of the >violin strings played for adults who didn't even begin to have the resources >or were in any sort of position to buy a house, but absolutely had to have a >house, well, because everyone else was getting one. If you want to make >excuses for people who got in over their heads with something they didn't >understand or didn't try to understand, but did anyway, be my guest. The theme here is buying "something they didn't understand." Specifically, buying cable. Getting cable is in a way similar to getting an ARM. They get you in with low teaser rates (high bandwidth), but after a while the terms get less favorable (you get "pokey speeds"). So don't blame the "20 somethings." The pokey speeds is inherent in how cable works. Just like some argued on this list last week that cable is the only game in town, the folks who got the ARMs did it because it was the only way to get the house. Both figured that the future would turn out more rosey than it did. In both cases, understanding the nuts and bolts of how things worked would have avoided the current unpleasantness. Anyone who has cable today ought to be searching for and lobbying for getting something in the future that offers a fixed rate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Website vs. blog
>Thanks for the info. This is actually for another artist friend, whose >website I've been (sporadically) updating. I really don't have the time >to devote to it, so offering him another option like a blog would be >great. I'll ask if he'd like to investigate your other hosting option. I notice that some photographers on iStock, StockExpert, etc. Have blogs and web sites. The web site emphasizes the photographer's protfolio. The blog covers recent photo shoots (with sample photos) and prominent sales (screen shots of ads that incorporate the photographer's work). This looks to be nicely complementary. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Assigning permanent letter to external drive
>My best guess is that F-I are slots for memory cards like SD cards. I >only ever use the SD card reader but it has four slots for different >kinds of memeory and they all get assigned a drive letter.. That sounds exactly right! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Website vs. blog
I think a blog is an excellent way to update a site. Just have a static site surrounding it. And make sure the blog is not the index page (I had a client who insisted on this and then he never made any entries, so his index page was always blank). As for easing up on the questions, my client had more than before when he went to the blog. Make sure you let your artist friend know you charge for phone and email time. /gayley -- -- Gayley Knight Mother Geek Productions - "simple & effective web solutions for business" By, For & About Women Radio Join the conversation at http://businessherway.net/ American Women in Radio and Television-NCAC, Board Business and Professional Women/MC, Board National Assn. of Women Business Owners-Nation's Capital Chapter, Board David Turk wrote: Thanks for the info. This is actually for another artist friend, whose website I've been (sporadically) updating. I really don't have the time to devote to it, so offering him another option like a blog would be great. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Assigning permanent letter to external drive
Yes, there are 4 SD card slots (which I've not used), which might explain the 4 drives which have no removable media attached. Thanks, Richard P. My best guess is that F-I are slots for memory cards like SD cards. I only ever use the SD card reader but it has four slots for different kinds of memeory and they all get assigned a drive letter.. I don't think they are any kind of place holder for future drive installs. Do you have a (multi) card reader in your computer? No Zip drives or anything like that? If not, it seems like you could get rid of the phantom drive assignments. . .but I'd hold off until somebody else says it's okay, because I'm not 100% sure. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Website vs. blog
Thanks for the info. This is actually for another artist friend, whose website I've been (sporadically) updating. I really don't have the time to devote to it, so offering him another option like a blog would be great. I'll ask if he'd like to investigate your other hosting option. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gayley Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:33 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Website vs. blog David - there are lots of good reasons for both mechanisms. Some static pages (web site) for content that is not fluid are probably important (and simpler with HTML than blog software). This would include a contact/address page, and might include a collections page, commissions, style of art, and resume pages. A blog gives the owner of the site, in this case an artist, easy control over content and when content is added and deleted. An artist could easily write about art openings, where his art is currently available (which will be changing as the art is bought), and recent works, was well as pricing (which might change). I am unclear as to why you think a blog would save hosting fees, unless there is only a blog and it is free (which adds advertising which might not be acceptable on a commerce site). There is also the possible disadvantage of integrating e-commerce and payment software with free blog software. If you want to contact me offlist, I am glad to let you know about inexpensive hosting I am currently using, which actually includes blog software access to Wordpress. Hosting fees should not be more than $10/month at this point in time, unless a site is very large and has lots of activity. /gayley knight David Turk wrote: > An artist friend recently let his website go in favor of starting a blog. He didn't have to wait for his brother to update the website for him, he could upload his own photos, & it was easier to manage contacts from the public. I could see why a business or organization needs a website, but would it be better for an individual to go with a blog, specifically for art promotion? Would save on those web hosting fees. tia. > >david > > David Turk > Manager, Preservation Imaging Services > Indiana Historical Society > Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center > 450 W. Ohio St. > Indianapolis, IN 46202 > (317) 232-4592 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Assigning permanent letter to external drive
My best guess is that F-I are slots for memory cards like SD cards. I only ever use the SD card reader but it has four slots for different kinds of memeory and they all get assigned a drive letter.. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Richard P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry I missed out on on the fun discussion today, I was unavoidably > detained. > > Your point make me wary to change the drive letters even though the > removable media Disks 2-5 (F-I) currently have no drives assigned to > them other than it saying that they are removable and there is currently > no media. My guess is that these volumes (?) are default for any future > internal media drives which may be installed, but I'm not sure. I would > hate to change one and not be able to fix it back if it didn't work. > > What really throws me off is that Windows is telling me to transfer my > settings to these non-existent drives and won't allow an option to save > to existing drives. Is there a way around this? > > It is interesting to note that these F-I "drives" show up in Windows > Explore but when clicked on, asks to insert a disk. The only disk drive > that I have is E which is a DVD/CD drive. So what are these F-I disk drives? > > Richard P. > > > Tom Piwowar wrote: > >> When you start up an application in Windows, the operating system needs > >> to know where to find the various components. If you happen to locate > >> some components in other than the default locations, > >> > > > > Studying many years in the school of hard knocks I have found that > > locating any components in other than the default locations is asking for > > trouble. All too often some idiot program will hard code the path, > > causing the user great pain. > > > > Before OS X, Mac users would laugh about this Windows-only problem. Now > > in the land of Unix the best advice for OS X users is the same... > > > > Never move any application-related files from default locations. > > > > Never rename any application-related directories from default names. > > > > > > > > > I want to use the Win XP File and Settings Transfer Wizard to save my > > configuration but it only opens up save options for default External > > Drives F, G, H, and I, all of which have nothing attached to them. When > > I hook an external USB hard drive, it shows up as the first available > > letter, "J", which isn't an option for the Wizard. > > > > > > > > How can I get my "J" external drive to show up in the transfer wizard > > defaults? It doesn't allow browsing for my selection and when I try to > > change the "J" external drive letter, F, G, H, and I are not listed as > > an option. > > > > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
John--I'm not giving the banks a pass on this, but I've grown weary of the violin strings played for adults who didn't even begin to have the resources or were in any sort of position to buy a house, but absolutely had to have a house, well, because everyone else was getting one. If you want to make excuses for people who got in over their heads with something they didn't understand or didn't try to understand, but did anyway, be my guest. The banks bear their own responsibility as well, of course. They don't deserve a bail-out either. If they truly defrauded borrowers, not just talk someone into a bad deal, they deserve jail. Otherwise, let them go out of business if they made too many high-risk loans that went sour on them. > -Original Message- > Yes, but the people losing their homes now had plenty of paycheck to > cover > their mortgage payment *at the time they got the mortgage*. > > What the banks and investment houses did that was fiscally > irresponsible was > to give out or invest in mortgages that would only work as long as > rates > stayed down and home prices continued to rise. The loans didn't make > any > sense when they were made. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] solar battery chargers
I'll look at the solar panel in my wife's trunk. It is about the size of a news paper folder over on the newstand. It has a cord that plugs into the cigarette lighter. They recommend plugging it and placing it on the dashboard if you do not intend to use the car for several weeks. I wonder if that means that VW expects the battery to discharge at a more rapid rate than most vehicles. A solar panel was standard equipment of the 2005 Jetta. The dealer didn't think so until i showed them the manual. I wonder if they need to be shown every time? On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:56 PM, betty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And what about Windows users who are perpetually in the dark? > > > >> >The price for those panels is lower > >> >than some of the new cable/DSL/ADSL modems. Searched online and found > >> >one that retails at $44.99, and another for $37.95; will be much less if > >> >bundled with FIOS service boxes. > > > > Betty: Is this packaged in a way that will allow a DIY installation? > > First time I saw photovoltaic trickle chargers for 12V batteries was at > a Volkswagen dealer. They had the chargers plugged into many of the cars > on their lot, with the PV panel on the dashboard. I'd guess they might > have some kind of deal from the German government where homeowners and > businesses are given incentives to install PV panels on their buildings > to generate electricity. These panels are integrated roofing, like tiles > [search SunSlate], not big panels bolted to the roof, as were used 20 > years ago. Initially the equivalent cost of energy from PV was around 40 > cents per kw hour while power companies charged 10 cents/kwh. Government > paid the difference to the customers. Cost has gone down to 30 cents, 20 > cents, and is expected to reach parity within 5 years. After that the > electricity from PV panels will be free. > > I didn't look at the brand that they were using, but I could ask the VW > dealer, or you could ask a dealer that uses them. I got the prices by > using a search engine. These chargers plug into the cigarette lighter in > a car. The laptop chargers were well over $200 when I looked for one > several years ago and are still expensive, but chargers for cell phones > and iPods can be found for under $40. > > And, yes, the battery chargers are easy to set up. Some models are even > sold in the online NPR shop and many other places on the Internets. > > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Macbook pwned...again
Incorrect...or misleading at least. They didn't 'follow a script' at least not if you want to be clear to the peanut gallery. They visited a web page that was infected...you know the kind of stuff that never happens. Good thing macs don't use web pages. Mike On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Highlights...last year a mac was taken over in nine hours, this year it > took > >two minutes with a web exploit. No word in the article about how linux > or > >vista faired... > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20080327/tc_infoworld/96676 > > Incorrect. Nobody was able to break into any of the systems on the first > day. On the second day the "contestants" were allowed to specify that the > judges perform specific actions with the computers. Following a script > provided by a "contestant" the Mac was hacked. > > This reminds me of the "honor-system virus" joke. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why not the US?
Perhaps someone can confirm or deny...I had read that 65% or in that area of foreclosures were unoccupied...investments to turn that went bad. Not Joe Blow and 2.5 kids. Mike On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:24 PM, John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Jeff Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yes, but the people losing their homes now had plenty of paycheck to cover > their mortgage payment *at the time they got the mortgage*. > > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
