Re: [CGUYS] 3D headphones
My point was that stereo just doesn't cut it for FPS gaming these days. The headphones are cool. But as an audio guy I can tell you for a fact that unless you are driving the elements in the transducers out of separate channels of amplification you will not realize surround sound. There is no way a two channel feed can be transformed into 5.1 without multiple feed lines. That it is possible is true. These headphones appear to be equpped with multiple feed lines. So the necessary conditions have been met. So I think what you've been saying is not bullshit. Now it's up to Dr. Piwowar to do the research. And admit he was wrong to not check the hardware out. Thanks for the information, I think I'll stick with what I've got since I don't do surround. But that was very illuminating nevertheless. I rarely play FPS but I can see where it would be a benefit. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can Tom answer this time?
To be clear, both MS and Toshiba had players go out on this bug. Toshiba has a player called the gigabeat that also locked up on jan 1...but to Tom it's only the zune that matters. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >> Because I'm not a crank. > > > >The logic of this eludes me. > > Are you wearing your 3D headphones? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can Tom answer this time?
Right...same product, same bug that shut them down on Jan 1st...but you only go after the one with the MS name and not the one with Toshiba. And then you try and claim you don't have seething hatred for one particular company. I got it now. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >You never answered...why go after *just* MS in the jan 1 bug? You didn't > >excoriate Toshiba...why not? There are grounds for no further discussion > >because you found out your wrong unless you have some information you > aren't > >telling us? So how about you just tell us why you didn't go after Toshiba > too? > > Because I'm not a crank. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Mail: Redirect vs. Forward
On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:35 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Mac Mail is pathetic. Apple really got that wrong. Go on I find it perfectly adequate. What is it that is lacking for you? Mar PS: Happy New Year * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Creative ASIO device error message
Tom Piwowar wrote: My question is: can I make the following changes to the registry of Windows XP Home without fear of creating a big problem? I do have and regularly use a registry cleaner. Doesn't help with this problem. Which one? The one that I use is called Registry Mechanic. Now this story: Five years ago or so I paid a one-time fee of about $30 for this software, and received updates for a while. Then last year I noticed a credit card charge to Registry Mechanic of about $20. I emailed RM and asked why this unauthorized charge was put on my credit card. They said that I could have it removed, so I did. They removed the charge but informed me that I was no longer authorized to use their software and must delete same from my computer. Since this was definitely not the original agreement that I had with them, I continue to use it. The registry cleaner is bundled with a registry optimization (I guess compaction) program, as well as an optional resident program that monitors any changes to the registry so that it can be restored when any software is installed. Before cleaning the registry, a restore point is always created. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Mail: Redirect vs. Forward
WFB!!! See!! I use Macs. I love Macs!!! They're wonderful. Just bought a new iMac and a used G5. Happy Happy Joy Joy!! _I HATE Mac Mail_ [almost as much as I detest OE]. :-D OK. Calm down and drop the keyboard. Take your finger off the mouse button and face the wall. Breathe deeply and ask yourself one question. Is it time for a nap? ;-) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Mail: Redirect vs. Forward
Why not Eudora for Mac? Still out there still free still good. Just not being developed. Stewart At 09:35 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote: I detest mac mail. I don't understand why I can't change it from the default when I click on a webpage to send an email and damn damn damn mac mail opens. Help! I think the best solution is to go to my friend's house and install Thunderbird for her. If I tell her, she'll do something else. Last time I suggested switching from Outlook Express to Thunderbird, she switched to Mac Mail. To get her on the right track, I'll offer to clean up her computer. Looks easy to move email and addresses to Thunderbird from Mail, http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#mail.app Until then, are there settings I can change, or do I have to go into the guts [package, terminal] of the program to make changes? Mac Mail is pathetic. Apple really got that wrong. WFB!!! See!! I use Macs. I love Macs!!! They're wonderful. Just bought a new iMac and a used G5. Happy Happy Joy Joy!! _I HATE Mac Mail_ [almost as much as I detest OE]. :-D Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Mail: Redirect vs. Forward
I detest mac mail. I don't understand why I can't change it from the default when I click on a webpage to send an email and damn damn damn mac mail opens. Help! I think the best solution is to go to my friend's house and install Thunderbird for her. If I tell her, she'll do something else. Last time I suggested switching from Outlook Express to Thunderbird, she switched to Mac Mail. To get her on the right track, I'll offer to clean up her computer. Looks easy to move email and addresses to Thunderbird from Mail, http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#mail.app Until then, are there settings I can change, or do I have to go into the guts [package, terminal] of the program to make changes? Mac Mail is pathetic. Apple really got that wrong. WFB!!! See!! I use Macs. I love Macs!!! They're wonderful. Just bought a new iMac and a used G5. Happy Happy Joy Joy!! _I HATE Mac Mail_ [almost as much as I detest OE]. :-D Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] This annoying thing
Has the window gone oversize or moved partly off the top of the screen? Move the window. Alt-spacebar to show the "control" menu and then use the "move" command with the arrow keys. Fix any size errors in the same fashion. Fred Holmes At 04:44 PM 1/16/2009, Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote: >Hi friends, help me. > >For some reason my IE now shows up without the toolbars that it had before. >Now it shows the page I asked for and no bar on the top. >Then, when I go with the mouse and touch the upper limit of the screen, a >limited bar drops down but without all the goodies I used to >have there including the bar for the IE with tools, etc. When I right click >the mouse I can chose to check several tool bars but even after I do this the >bars are not there. I know I had this before but I forgot what I did... > >Thanks > >Marcio > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
>Cost to call international numbers (we do that) is very low. I'm paying 2 cents/minute for calls to Europe using POTS. Are you lower than that? What's your service? Do you use a phone card or dial-around number? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
At 01:49 PM 1/16/2009, RLeeSimon wrote: >The >phone modem is BEHIND my router; You emphasize "behind." I assume that "behind" means on the client (LAN) side of the router, not on the WAN side, which is normal for all client devices. That's what "behind" means to me -- on the protected side. So what does the emphasis mean? Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Family Project
you need to distinguish between "spirited" discussion and "petty" discussion --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Tom Piwowar wrote: > From: Tom Piwowar > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Family Project > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:03 PM > >I showed my daughter the emails regarding the building > of the computer. > >Her question was "Who ARE these guys? > Sheesh!" > > Then she lives a very sheltered life. When fans get > together a spirited > discussion is inevitable and a few elbows thrown is not at > all unusual. > What could generate more sparks than the building of a > computer from > scratch? Would you expect a neighborhood basket ball game > to be a bunch > of guys saying "excuse me" and "after > you"? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, > archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at > http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 16 Jan 2009 - Special issue (#2009-52)
Maybe Just maybe she might be of the new generation that does not understand those that get overly emotional or exuberant about computers as they have been raised that computers are a normal tool of life and not emotional pacifiers. All of this irrational emotional exuberance is tiring... rich Date:Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:32:26 -0800 From:db Subject: Re: Family Project Aaah ... me thinks she was impressed. It's a generational thing... db Tom Piwowar wrote: I showed my daughter the emails regarding the building of the computer. Her question was "Who ARE these guys? Sheesh!" Then she lives a very sheltered life. When fans get together a spirited discussion is inevitable and a few elbows thrown is not at all unusual. What could generate more sparks than the building of a computer from scratch? Would you expect a neighborhood basket ball game to be a bunch of guys saying "excuse me" and "after you"? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
1.7c to all my family in Belgium on PhonePower ...they also had a sale in December for the whole month calls to a coupla dozen countries free ...beat that! (I didn't know Apple owned POTS)...hehee! -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar [mailto:t...@tjpa.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: MagicJack question >Cost to call international numbers (we do that) is very low. I'm paying 2 cents/minute for calls to Europe using POTS. Are you lower than that? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Mail: Redirect vs. Forward
I detest mac mail. I don't understand why I can't change it from the default when I click on a webpage to send an email and damn damn damn mac mail opens. Help! --- On Fri, 1/16/09, b_s-wilk wrote: > From: b_s-wilk > Subject: [CGUYS] Mac Mail: Redirect vs. Forward > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:39 PM > A friend of mine keeps forwarding formatted email from Mac > Mail. It > arrives in my mail as a collection of disjointed pictures > and broken > links, with full headers. I use Thunderbird for my email > client. Haven't > been able to reproduce the jumble in either program. > > What kind of settings in Mail could cause that? I guess she > forwards > email by clicking on the Forward button in the toolbar. I > don't know if > "Redirect" [in menu] will make a difference, > mostly because she hasn't > done it yet, AFAIK. > > She said tonight that other people get jumbled email from > her too. > Is there a MIME setting in prefs to fix that? The default > format is RTF, > which is odd, since it's nonstandard for email. I never > liked Mac Mail. > This gives me another reason to dislike it even more. I > don't think it's > Yahoo email problem because hers are the only messages I > receive like > that. > > Is this any help: > MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) > Content-type: multipart/mixed; > boundary=Apple-Mail-12-178195691 > > Betty > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, > archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at > http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Mac improvement, WAS Re: [CGUYS] This annoying thing
What about mac improvements? Have I foolishly downloaded the latest version of OS X, only to find that docs sent to me now open in TextEdit (ugh) and the window for my Hard Drive when opened is now expanded to a HUGE version? Help? --- On Fri, 1/16/09, db wrote: > From: db > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] This annoying thing > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 6:58 PM > What you don't like MS's improvements? :) > > db > > Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote: > > Hi friends, help me. > > > > For some reason my IE now shows up without the > toolbars that it had before. Now it shows the page I asked > for and no bar on the top. > > Then, when I go with the mouse and touch the upper > limit of the screen, a limited bar drops down but without > all the goodies I used to > > have there including the bar for the IE with tools, > etc. When I right click the mouse I can chose to check > several tool bars but even after I do this the bars are not > there. I know I had this before but I forgot what I did... > > > > Thanks > > > > Marcio > > > > > > > * > > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, > archives, privacy ** > > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at > http://www.cguys.org/ ** > > > * > > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, > archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at > http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Family Project
Aaah ... me thinks she was impressed. It's a generational thing... I think a little more staying on--or at least close to--topic would help. As soon as I see a budget I'll post a suggested parts list. As far as I know I'm the only one here who has admitted scratch-building a computer specifically for gaming. Please come out of the woodwork if you've done the same, once we have a budget number. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Family Project
Aaah ... me thinks she was impressed. It's a generational thing... db Tom Piwowar wrote: I showed my daughter the emails regarding the building of the computer. Her question was "Who ARE these guys? Sheesh!" Then she lives a very sheltered life. When fans get together a spirited discussion is inevitable and a few elbows thrown is not at all unusual. What could generate more sparks than the building of a computer from scratch? Would you expect a neighborhood basket ball game to be a bunch of guys saying "excuse me" and "after you"? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] myEarthLink News Article - EU tells Microsoft to change IE marketing
Personal Message: Another reason for Tom not to like MS. = A news article has been sent to you by: revsamarsh...@earthlink.net courtesy of myEarthLink News EU tells Microsoft to change IE marketing http://my.earthlink.net/article/bus?guid=20090116/49702260_3421_1334520090116546365782 = myEarthLink News http://my.earthlink.net/channel/NEWS * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can Tom answer this time?
>> Because I'm not a crank. > >The logic of this eludes me. Are you wearing your 3D headphones? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] This annoying thing
What you don't like MS's improvements? :) db Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote: Hi friends, help me. For some reason my IE now shows up without the toolbars that it had before. Now it shows the page I asked for and no bar on the top. Then, when I go with the mouse and touch the upper limit of the screen, a limited bar drops down but without all the goodies I used to have there including the bar for the IE with tools, etc. When I right click the mouse I can chose to check several tool bars but even after I do this the bars are not there. I know I had this before but I forgot what I did... Thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can Tom answer this time?
> So how about you just tell us why you didn't go after > Toshiba too? > > Because I'm not a crank. The logic of this eludes me. You're saying that you only went after one of the two companies that missed the bug because you're not a crank? Only a crank would mention that Toshiba and MS both missed it; and only not-a-crank would restrict the scorn to one of the two? This is confusin'. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Creative ASIO device error message
I like cccleaner. www.cccleaner.com Marcio At 21:34 16/1/2009, you wrote: >> My question is: can I make the following changes to the registry of >> Windows XP Home without fear of creating a big problem? > >I do have and regularly use a registry cleaner. Doesn't help with this >problem. Which one? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
Yes, low cost, that is altogether 59 dollars for five years for me to call anyone in the USA. And to have anyone in the USA ro call my number in Los Angeles (they may pay long distance if they are not in Los Angeles, according to their phone plan)... Marcio At 20:29 16/1/2009, you wrote: That is what I mean about international. You are living in Brazil but can establish a US phone number which means US calls are low cost to you. If I were to call in Brazil to a Brazillian # using my standard phone line it would cost me much more. Stewart At 04:19 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote: No, they are offering five years for 59.00. I am in Brazil. They gave me a number that I chose in Los Angeles. My American friends can call me on that number and I receive the call here. I can call anyone in the USA. No other fees. If I call Europe I believe there is a fee. If they call four rings it goes to the voicemail. I can access the voicemail. I receive an e-mail telling me about the call. If I want I also can have a TAM. Marcio Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Mac Mail: Redirect vs. Forward
A friend of mine keeps forwarding formatted email from Mac Mail. It arrives in my mail as a collection of disjointed pictures and broken links, with full headers. I use Thunderbird for my email client. Haven't been able to reproduce the jumble in either program. What kind of settings in Mail could cause that? I guess she forwards email by clicking on the Forward button in the toolbar. I don't know if "Redirect" [in menu] will make a difference, mostly because she hasn't done it yet, AFAIK. She said tonight that other people get jumbled email from her too. Is there a MIME setting in prefs to fix that? The default format is RTF, which is odd, since it's nonstandard for email. I never liked Mac Mail. This gives me another reason to dislike it even more. I don't think it's Yahoo email problem because hers are the only messages I receive like that. Is this any help: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-12-178195691 Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can Tom answer this time?
>You never answered...why go after *just* MS in the jan 1 bug? You didn't >excoriate Toshiba...why not? There are grounds for no further discussion >because you found out your wrong unless you have some information you aren't >telling us? So how about you just tell us why you didn't go after Toshiba too? Because I'm not a crank. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Creative ASIO device error message
>> My question is: can I make the following changes to the registry of >> Windows XP Home without fear of creating a big problem? > >I do have and regularly use a registry cleaner. Doesn't help with this >problem. Which one? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
>Cost to call international numbers (we do that) is very low. I'm paying 2 cents/minute for calls to Europe using POTS. Are you lower than that? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Family Project
>I showed my daughter the emails regarding the building of the computer. >Her question was "Who ARE these guys? Sheesh!" Then she lives a very sheltered life. When fans get together a spirited discussion is inevitable and a few elbows thrown is not at all unusual. What could generate more sparks than the building of a computer from scratch? Would you expect a neighborhood basket ball game to be a bunch of guys saying "excuse me" and "after you"? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Can Tom answer this time?
You never answered...why go after *just* MS in the jan 1 bug? You didn't excoriate Toshiba...why not? There are grounds for no further discussion because you found out your wrong unless you have some information you aren't telling us?So how about you just tell us why you didn't go after Toshiba too? On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >This is like the Toshiba/MS thing, facts aren't going to get in his > >way...cool headphones though. > > Unreal. I can only conclude that our WFBs are WFBs because they live in > an alternate reality that defies Physics and Science. There are no > grounds left for further discussion. I can't imagine what they will cook > up next. Antigravity boots anyone? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 3D headphones
>This is like the Toshiba/MS thing, facts aren't going to get in his >way...cool headphones though. Unreal. I can only conclude that our WFBs are WFBs because they live in an alternate reality that defies Physics and Science. There are no grounds left for further discussion. I can't imagine what they will cook up next. Antigravity boots anyone? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
That is what I mean about international. You are living in Brazil but can establish a US phone number which means US calls are low cost to you. If I were to call in Brazil to a Brazillian # using my standard phone line it would cost me much more. Stewart At 04:19 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote: No, they are offering five years for 59.00. I am in Brazil. They gave me a number that I chose in Los Angeles. My American friends can call me on that number and I receive the call here. I can call anyone in the USA. No other fees. If I call Europe I believe there is a fee. If they call four rings it goes to the voicemail. I can access the voicemail. I receive an e-mail telling me about the call. If I want I also can have a TAM. Marcio Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
http://www.magicjack.com/faq/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
No, they are offering five years for 59.00. I am in Brazil. They gave me a number that I chose in Los Angeles. My American friends can call me on that number and I receive the call here. I can call anyone in the USA. No other fees. If I call Europe I believe there is a fee. If they call four rings it goes to the voicemail. I can access the voicemail. I receive an e-mail telling me about the call. If I want I also can have a TAM. Marcio At 18:43 16/1/2009, you wrote: For international callers this is indeed a boon. But I think it is much like Skype. Stewart At 02:39 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote: If I call in my cell phone to the USA... it costs a lot. The same from there here... Marcio Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Creative ASIO device error message
Tom Piwowar wrote: My question is: can I make the following changes to the registry of Windows XP Home without fear of creating a big problem? The safest way is to use a Registry cleaning utility. It will match up what is on the computer with what is in the Registry. It will list proposed changes for you to approve. Most will also back up your Registry beforehand and give you a rollback file. I do have and regularly use a registry cleaner. Doesn't help with this problem. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Creative ASIO device error message
I am still using the Creative sound card. According to the instructions, installing an updated driver creates a problem because the registry entry for the old drive is not erased. (I don't know if this info is correct.) BTW, there haven't been an updated driver for the sound card since 2004. Tony B wrote: I don't see why removing these entries should hurt much of anything. And a reboot would make sense. But what you don't make clear is if you've actually removed the Creative card and are using a different sound card now.? If not, can't you just reinstall the current Creative drivers? It seems to me, altering registry entries if you're still using the Creative card *is* asking for trouble. PS I had this problem a while ago after upgrading to Vista and having to remove my Creative Audigy (no driver support). I deleted the key HKEY_Local_Machine/Software/ASIO . As usual, if you're worried about deleting these keys, just rename them. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Robert wrote: My question is: can I make the following changes to the registry of Windows XP Home without fear of creating a big problem? I purchased the latest version of a PC movie maker program (Pinnacle Studio 12) and every time I start the program I receive 5 error messages saying: "The Creative ASIO devices have changed. You may need to restart this program before using Creative ASIO devices." In fact, I found three CLSID entries in the registry. Do I have to reboot after renaming each? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Magic Jack
I don´t know if the popup of the magicjack can be avoided when you pick up the phone or receive a call. We will have to research this... Marcio At 19:12 16/1/2009, you wrote: Okay, you guys talked me into it. I just signed up for the free 30 day trial - that actually costs $7 s&h. :) But there darn well better not be any popups while I'm playing a game! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] This annoying thing II Solved...
Oh...my. If I right click on the X in the top right I have the choice "auto hide "... That is the place! Marcio Hi friends, help me. For some reason my IE now shows up without the toolbars that it had before. Now it shows the page I asked for and no bar on the top. Then, when I go with the mouse and touch the upper limit of the screen, a limited bar drops down but without all the goodies I used to have there including the bar for the IE with tools, etc. When I right click the mouse I can chose to check several tool bars but even after I do this the bars are not there. I know I had this before but I forgot what I did... Thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] This annoying thing
Hi friends, help me. For some reason my IE now shows up without the toolbars that it had before. Now it shows the page I asked for and no bar on the top. Then, when I go with the mouse and touch the upper limit of the screen, a limited bar drops down but without all the goodies I used to have there including the bar for the IE with tools, etc. When I right click the mouse I can chose to check several tool bars but even after I do this the bars are not there. I know I had this before but I forgot what I did... Thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Magic Jack
Okay, you guys talked me into it. I just signed up for the free 30 day trial - that actually costs $7 s&h. :) But there darn well better not be any popups while I'm playing a game! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
For international callers this is indeed a boon. But I think it is much like Skype. Stewart At 02:39 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote: If I call in my cell phone to the USA... it costs a lot. The same from there here... Marcio Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
If I call in my cell phone to the USA... it costs a lot. The same from there here... Marcio At 16:29 16/1/2009, you wrote: The dongle to which I referred is *the computer*. A computer is required to make a phone call. Don't you have a cell phone? On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: > OK, I'm confused. I have the "standard" Magic Jack" interface device, which plugs into a USB port and accepts an RJ-11 plug from a common telephone cord. I presumed that is what is being called the "dongle," as it is small in size, about 3 in. long by an inch wide by 3/4 inch thick. There is no separate "dongle" (password device) required in my setup. Is that what everyone else has? I would not call it a "large device." Maybe early adopters got a large device and hardware version 2.0 is the "dongle"? > > Fred Holmes > > At 11:33 AM 1/16/2009, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: >>NO MAGIC DONGLE. >>The dongle is available if you can't access the USB with their large device >>directly. >> >>Eschew Obfuscation >> >>This is a reply from: >>Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. >> Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services >>for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization >> >> 703.548.1343 voice >> 703.783.1340 fax >> >> >> From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we >>are YOUR adjuvancy >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] >>On Behalf Of Tony B >>Sent: 01/16/2009 10:35 AM >>To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >>Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question >> >>I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run. >>Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply >>point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic >>Jack to do VOIP. >> >>Besides, who wants to leave their computer on all the time just so >>their phone will work? >> >>If you've got MJ, can you tell the OP how to disable the incoming call >>popup? >> >> >>On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: >>> At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote: A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. >>> >>> What is the long-term monthly/annual charge for Vonage service? For Magic >>Jack, it's very cheap, less than $15 per year IIRC. This may be an >>introductory price, but they have solicited payment for 5 years worth, which >>I have taken. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
I have the same as you Fred Marcio At 16:14 16/1/2009, you wrote: OK, I'm confused. I have the "standard" Magic Jack" interface device, which plugs into a USB port and accepts an RJ-11 plug from a common telephone cord. I presumed that is what is being called the "dongle," as it is small in size, about 3 in. long by an inch wide by 3/4 inch thick. There is no separate "dongle" (password device) required in my setup. Is that what everyone else has? I would not call it a "large device." Maybe early adopters got a large device and hardware version 2.0 is the "dongle"? Fred Holmes At 11:33 AM 1/16/2009, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: >NO MAGIC DONGLE. >The dongle is available if you can't access the USB with their large device >directly. > >Eschew Obfuscation > >This is a reply from: >Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. > Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services >for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization > > 703.548.1343 voice > 703.783.1340 fax > > > From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we >are YOUR adjuvancy > > >-Original Message- >From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] >On Behalf Of Tony B >Sent: 01/16/2009 10:35 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question > >I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run. >Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply >point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic >Jack to do VOIP. > >Besides, who wants to leave their computer on all the time just so >their phone will work? > >If you've got MJ, can you tell the OP how to disable the incoming call >popup? > > >On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: >> At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote: >>>A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which >>>has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a >>>regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the >>>telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. >> >> What is the long-term monthly/annual charge for Vonage service? For Magic >Jack, it's very cheap, less than $15 per year IIRC. This may be an >introductory price, but they have solicited payment for 5 years worth, which >I have taken. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
How about international calls? With MagicJack I am in Brasil and I have an USA number. I can make calls to the USA (59 dollars for five years). They can call my US number from US callers... Marcio At 15:41 16/1/2009, you wrote: But our cell phones can already make all our calls for free, so why screw with it? Maybe for people with no cell phones. Or traveling salesmen (with no cellphones)? It just makes more sense to me to hook to the net via the router, not a USB port on one of the client machines. Preferably wirelessly, but wired if needed. > But you can carry the Majic Jack dongle with you and plug it into any computer, anywhere, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Availability of Cell Phone Batteries
Bought a OEM battery on eBay ten days ago for a LG VX8300 phone for $3.99; no shipping added. I usually go through Amazon.com, eBay, or CellPhoneShop.net when I buy batteries, in that order. -- Original message from "Rev. Stewart Marshall" : -- > look up in your phone book places that do batteries. > > They do pop up. Some of them specialize in larger (Car, utility) > > Others do remanufacture batteries for cell phones. > > Stewart > > At 02:49 PM 1/11/2009, you wrote: > >>Batteries are usually made up of cells. It is not unreasonable to open > >>the container and replace the cells. > > > >You are right. Do you know of any company that actually does this for > >cell phone batteries? > > > > > >>Other batteries contain an aluminum > >>pack. It is not unreasonable to replace this pack with a newer one. > >>I did > >>this with my iPod and the new pack had a much longer run time than the > >>original. > > > >Isn't the "aluminum pack" the battery itself? So when you open the > >iPod and remove and replace the "aluminum pack" you are not > >refurbishing the battery. You are refurbishing the iPod by replacing > >the battery. > > Rev. Stewart A. Marshall > mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net > Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org > Ozark, AL SL 82 > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
At 01:29 PM 1/16/2009, Tony B wrote: >The dongle to which I referred is *the computer*. A computer is >required to make a phone call. Don't you have a cell phone? Yeah, but my cell phone doesn't work very well from my "desk" in the basement of my house. I also don't like carrying it around. It's bulky in my pants pocket; it's bulky affixed to my belt with a clip. No matter how I carry it, it results in bruises or scratches from the keys in my pocket. So I really only carry my cell phone when I'm out of the house. Magic Jack doesn't interfere with my use of the computer. If I'm at my "desk" my computer is on 99.% of the time. . . . Walking to a better spot with my cell phone isn't really a good option, because most of the calls I make involve taking notes and looking up information, best done at my "desk" and often using the computer anyway. At less than $20 per year, the cost of Magic Jack is very low in the noise of my finances. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 3D headphones
As someone said earlier there is a way to trick you into hearing from different directions with headphones, but it is a trick. I have spatial hearing problems related to being exposed to loud noises. (Tinnitus and hearing loss) I do have Dolby Surround Sound on my system, but unless the rear channels are really pumping out sound I cannot hear it. Also note that there is a delay setting on some Surround Sound systems to help with the spatial effect of hearing from different directions. (Mine allows up to 29ms.) Stewart At 12:41 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote: This is like the Toshiba/MS thing, facts aren't going to get in his way...cool headphones though. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >It's a shame we can't embed a picture in this day and age. But take a > >look at these headphones at: > >http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/efhpx/home.aspx > > > >It should be obvious to anyone looking at the placement of the > >speakers inside the headphones that it's quite easy to tell the > >difference between the front one and the other ones. > > I need to see a picture of the wearer. Are they a Martian or did you > drill extra holes in their skull? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
PhonePower works completely fine with just their modem and the cable modem with the computer completely shut off. Also, they are going to add a portability feature. The phone modem you get is about the size of a pack of cigarettes and you can take it with you when you travel. -Original Message- From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Re: MagicJack question I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run. Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic Jack to do VOIP. Besides, who wants to leave their computer on all the time just so their phone will work? If you've got MJ, can you tell the OP how to disable the incoming call popup? On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: > At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote: >>A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which >>has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a >>regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the >>telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. > > What is the long-term monthly/annual charge for Vonage service? For > Magic Jack, it's very cheap, less than $15 per year IIRC. This may be > an introductory price, but they have solicited payment for 5 years > worth, which I have taken. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
I got PhonePower.com (which had a 10% off deal at the time) and $199/year with 2nd year free (except fed & state fees) ...the performance is unbelievably great ...it also has "cloned line" which means while you are on a call another person can pick up another phone and make or receive a call simultaneously. When you get a message, it can be gotten the usual way or you can hear it as a .wav file in your email or on their website secure. I am thrilled with it. No popup; it works just like a regular phone. The phone modem is BEHIND my router; they supply it for nothing, you pay shipping only. I was able to port my number. During the 2 week port process (caused by delay from Verizon) you can use the outbound immediately. Cost to call international numbers (we do that) is very low. Sound quality is FAR SUPERIOR to Verizon POTS. My internet is only DSL speed even though it's cable (limited basic Comcast). Check it out. If you mention my email address, we BOTH get some kind of bonus! -Original Message- From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:52 PM Subject: Re: MagicJack question I doubt you can disable the notice to any effective degree. Without of course, disabling the telephone. Simply unplug the MJ. A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Kelly J. Morris wrote: > I bought MagicJack for my son, who is a gamer. It works fine, except > that instead of just ringing when there is an incoming call, it opens > a big new Window onscreen and prevents him from continuing to play > until he closes it. > > Has anyone had any experience with MagicJack? Is there a way to > disable this feature? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 3D headphones
This is like the Toshiba/MS thing, facts aren't going to get in his way...cool headphones though. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >It's a shame we can't embed a picture in this day and age. But take a > >look at these headphones at: > >http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/efhpx/home.aspx > > > >It should be obvious to anyone looking at the placement of the > >speakers inside the headphones that it's quite easy to tell the > >difference between the front one and the other ones. > > I need to see a picture of the wearer. Are they a Martian or did you > drill extra holes in their skull? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
The dongle to which I referred is *the computer*. A computer is required to make a phone call. Don't you have a cell phone? On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: > OK, I'm confused. I have the "standard" Magic Jack" interface device, which > plugs into a USB port and accepts an RJ-11 plug from a common telephone cord. > I presumed that is what is being called the "dongle," as it is small in > size, about 3 in. long by an inch wide by 3/4 inch thick. There is no > separate "dongle" (password device) required in my setup. Is that what > everyone else has? I would not call it a "large device." Maybe early > adopters got a large device and hardware version 2.0 is the "dongle"? > > Fred Holmes > > At 11:33 AM 1/16/2009, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: >>NO MAGIC DONGLE. >>The dongle is available if you can't access the USB with their large device >>directly. >> >>Eschew Obfuscation >> >>This is a reply from: >>Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. >> Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services >>for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization >> >> 703.548.1343 voice >> 703.783.1340 fax >> >> >> From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we >>are YOUR adjuvancy >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] >>On Behalf Of Tony B >>Sent: 01/16/2009 10:35 AM >>To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >>Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question >> >>I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run. >>Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply >>point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic >>Jack to do VOIP. >> >>Besides, who wants to leave their computer on all the time just so >>their phone will work? >> >>If you've got MJ, can you tell the OP how to disable the incoming call >>popup? >> >> >>On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: >>> At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote: A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. >>> >>> What is the long-term monthly/annual charge for Vonage service? For Magic >>Jack, it's very cheap, less than $15 per year IIRC. This may be an >>introductory price, but they have solicited payment for 5 years worth, which >>I have taken. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
OK, I'm confused. I have the "standard" Magic Jack" interface device, which plugs into a USB port and accepts an RJ-11 plug from a common telephone cord. I presumed that is what is being called the "dongle," as it is small in size, about 3 in. long by an inch wide by 3/4 inch thick. There is no separate "dongle" (password device) required in my setup. Is that what everyone else has? I would not call it a "large device." Maybe early adopters got a large device and hardware version 2.0 is the "dongle"? Fred Holmes At 11:33 AM 1/16/2009, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: >NO MAGIC DONGLE. >The dongle is available if you can't access the USB with their large device >directly. > >Eschew Obfuscation > >This is a reply from: >Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. > Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services >for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization > > 703.548.1343 voice > 703.783.1340 fax > > > From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we >are YOUR adjuvancy > > >-Original Message- >From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] >On Behalf Of Tony B >Sent: 01/16/2009 10:35 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question > >I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run. >Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply >point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic >Jack to do VOIP. > >Besides, who wants to leave their computer on all the time just so >their phone will work? > >If you've got MJ, can you tell the OP how to disable the incoming call >popup? > > >On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: >> At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote: >>>A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which >>>has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a >>>regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the >>>telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. >> >> What is the long-term monthly/annual charge for Vonage service? For Magic >Jack, it's very cheap, less than $15 per year IIRC. This may be an >introductory price, but they have solicited payment for 5 years worth, which >I have taken. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 3D headphones
>It's a shame we can't embed a picture in this day and age. But take a >look at these headphones at: >http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/efhpx/home.aspx > >It should be obvious to anyone looking at the placement of the >speakers inside the headphones that it's quite easy to tell the >difference between the front one and the other ones. I need to see a picture of the wearer. Are they a Martian or did you drill extra holes in their skull? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
But our cell phones can already make all our calls for free, so why screw with it? Maybe for people with no cell phones. Or traveling salesmen (with no cellphones)? It just makes more sense to me to hook to the net via the router, not a USB port on one of the client machines. Preferably wirelessly, but wired if needed. > But you can carry the Majic Jack dongle with you and plug it into any > computer, anywhere, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
Me too... Marcio At 01:14 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote: At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote: >A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which >has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a >regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the >telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. What is the long-term monthly/annual charge for Vonage service? For Magic Jack, it's very cheap, less than $15 per year IIRC. This may be an introductory price, but they have solicited payment for 5 years worth, which I have taken. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Family Project
Not having anything pertinent sure never stopped your whining. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > > > Now the WFBs need to stop whining and get back on topic. Do you have > something pertinent to contribute? > > > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
NO MAGIC DONGLE. The dongle is available if you can't access the USB with their large device directly. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax >From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Tony B Sent: 01/16/2009 10:35 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run. Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic Jack to do VOIP. Besides, who wants to leave their computer on all the time just so their phone will work? If you've got MJ, can you tell the OP how to disable the incoming call popup? On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: > At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote: >>A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which >>has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a >>regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the >>telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. > > What is the long-term monthly/annual charge for Vonage service? For Magic Jack, it's very cheap, less than $15 per year IIRC. This may be an introductory price, but they have solicited payment for 5 years worth, which I have taken. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
I've had one for almost a year- never had such a problem. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax >From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Kelly J. Morris Sent: 01/15/2009 11:20 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] MagicJack question I bought MagicJack for my son, who is a gamer. It works fine, except that instead of just ringing when there is an incoming call, it opens a big new Window onscreen and prevents him from continuing to play until he closes it. Has anyone had any experience with MagicJack? Is there a way to disable this feature? TIA Kelly -- Kelly J. Morris Togo-L * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
At 10:34 AM 1/16/2009, Tony B wrote: >I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run. >Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply >point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic >Jack to do VOIP. But you can carry the Majic Jack dongle with you and plug it into any computer, anywhere, that has broadband access (so it's advertised, I haven't tried it). The "dongle" is an interface. Vonage requires an interface. You can't plug a telephone RJ-11 plug directly into the RJ-45 jack on a router. How big is the Vonage interface/dongle? Can you take it with you and plug it into any router anywhere? Does it require independent AC power? The Magic Jack is powered from the USB port. One does need to remember an account number and password (IIRC, maybe just a password) for first installation of Magic Jack on a particular computer, but that's it. The software needed to run Magic Jack is stored in ROM in the dongle. I don't use the Magic Jack for hot incoming calls. If the party calling me leave a voice mail message, I receive an e-mail message with the voice mail message attached as a .wav file. (maybe mp3?) That's good enough for my purposes. It's an extra phone line at home. So both my wife and I can be on the phone at the same time. And saves $ for toll calls. Measured bandwidth used by the Magic Jack is approx 80kb -- a little bit faster than a 56kb dialup modem, but a very small fraction of the bandwidth available from any kind of broadband connection. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
I dunno, but remember - Magic Jack requires a dongle to run. Specifically, it requires *a whole gd computer*. Cynics would simply point out that, once you have the computer, you don't _need_ the Magic Jack to do VOIP. Besides, who wants to leave their computer on all the time just so their phone will work? If you've got MJ, can you tell the OP how to disable the incoming call popup? On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: > At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote: >>A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which >>has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a >>regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the >>telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. > > What is the long-term monthly/annual charge for Vonage service? For Magic > Jack, it's very cheap, less than $15 per year IIRC. This may be an > introductory price, but they have solicited payment for 5 years worth, which > I have taken. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
At 11:52 PM 1/15/2009, Tony B wrote: >A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which >has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a >regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the >telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. What is the long-term monthly/annual charge for Vonage service? For Magic Jack, it's very cheap, less than $15 per year IIRC. This may be an introductory price, but they have solicited payment for 5 years worth, which I have taken. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Family Project
There have been no personal attacks in this thread, but as usual sub-threads have broken off and not been renamed. I still think the best and most direct answer you got was my very first. In any issue of PC Gamer you'll get a parts list you can use _today_. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:25 AM, wrote: > Damn, Guys!! I did not meant to open such a can of worms that has brought > on personal attacks. Just wanted to get some idea what my options were. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] 3D headphones
It's a shame we can't embed a picture in this day and age. But take a look at these headphones at: http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/efhpx/home.aspx It should be obvious to anyone looking at the placement of the speakers inside the headphones that it's quite easy to tell the difference between the front one and the other ones. Again, nobody's claiming these give you a great degree of realism, but when you must use headphones, gamers CANNOT settle for less than surround models. My point was that stereo just doesn't cut it for FPS gaming these days. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:40 AM, David K Watson wrote: > Wait a minute, she tells you "front right" and then you hear it as > coming from the front, and when she tells you rear right you > hear it as coming from the rear? That sounds like it could be > suggestion to me. As an experiment, try it on an unsuspecting > friend with the headphones on backwards and see what they say. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Family Project
I showed my daughter the emails regarding the building of the computer. Her question was "Who ARE these guys? Sheesh!" Tracy Foust **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Family Project
Damn, Guys!! I did not meant to open such a can of worms that has brought on personal attacks. Just wanted to get some idea what my options were. Tracy Foust **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Family Project
>Supposedly, 3D headphones work by exaggerating the interference >patterns you naturally hear by having sounds from a source reach >each ear at different times. To me, this sounds more like producing >a hyper-realistic sensation than contributing much in the way of >extra information. Everyone's sensory experience is interpreted, >and there are experiments galore that show that what we "hear" >depends an awful lot on our expectations and visual cues. So it >could be for example that in your game you "hear" someone >sneaking up behind you because you don't see them on the screen. Please read the Wikipedia article on "sound_localization" before joining this discussion. This is the Computer Guys, not the Psychic Friends Network. The limiting factor is that we have 2 ears and with headphones the location of the ears and the sound source is fixed. All timing differences can do is simulate a 2D 360-degree field. To get 3D something else has to happen and it can't happen because the headphones are clamped to your head, thus in fixed position relative to your ears. So you get 2D: N, S, E, W, NE, NW, etc., but no up and down (no 3D). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack question
I haver a MagicJack and I like it. It rings OK. I did not know that it opened its window in the screen. Oh, yes, when you make a call it does too. They have a good technicaç support and you can talk with them online. They also have a lot of FAQs.. Marcio .At 02:52 16/1/2009, you wrote: I doubt you can disable the notice to any effective degree. Without of course, disabling the telephone. Simply unplug the MJ. A much better solution for VOIP would be something like Vonage, which has a "magic jack" that connects straight to your router, and a regular telephone jack on the other end. So when you get a call, the telephone rings, instead of popping up a window on your computer. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Kelly J. Morris wrote: > I bought MagicJack for my son, who is a gamer. It works fine, except > that instead of just ringing when there is an incoming call, it opens a > big new Window onscreen and prevents him from continuing to play until > he closes it. > > Has anyone had any experience with MagicJack? Is there a way to disable > this feature? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
