Re: [CGUYS] a new word?
You explained the Eskimo thing better then I was going would. I was just going to say Eskimos don't us adjectives. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. Tech folks need more words that non-tech folks because they need to make precise distinctions. E.g. Eskimos have dozens of words for what we just call snow. You're right in general, but Eskimos having many words for snow is something of a myth. The Eskimo languages are polysynthetic, which means, more or less, that multiple words are combined into one as needed. Where we might say something like dry, drifting snow, they would combine the three words into one. So there are lots of those compound words--as many as you can think of, really. But there are only a few roots that specifically reference snow. The rest are all just descriptive modifications of snow; the only difference is that English uses multiple words to describe it, but they combine snow and its modifiers into one. The same principle applies to any word, of course, so we could as easily say that they have hundreds of words for chicken. Again, I'm not disagreeing with you basic point, just the Eskimo-snow thing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
I don't determine quality of service available--neither do you. Providers determine that. They also decide where and what kinds of services they offer. As long as companies decide that nobody lives here and don't provide service for us, we're stuck with the minimum. Moving is not an option. You have to get over the idea of provider and get with the idea of it doesn't profit me to serve you at the same level I would someone who would actually pay my costs. The machine is not working in your direction, girlfriend. And I say that with all frankness and honesty. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: Dude. You've stepped in it now. Good luck getting a direct answer. Thanks fpr the heads-up, but I've got on my big boots. We older folks know know to walk through a slop field. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:39 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Don't give me crap when you don't know what you are talking about. Running PowerPC code on an Intel processor is a complex task with many pitfalls. Whether it was your intention or not, it appeared as though you were admonishing the gentleman for not having the latest version of Photoshop. One of the three sentences you wrote referencing his problem was pointing him in the direction of Photoshop version 11 by asking him why he is using such old versions. That was no help to his situation. Does Photoshop 11 even come in a PPC flavor? Whatever version he had been running had been working just fine until something suddenly happened. There was no need to even hint the he could be a dim bulb for not having the latest offering from Adobe. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Phones and guys, even Computer Guys
Sure...augering is a little ill chosen rhetoric ...but I have seen a pic of the fone and it sure fills a big hand and thensome ...hand sized tablets should be called that ...even my thinkpad x31 can function as a fone although it is not stylish up to my ear... -Original Message- From: phartz...@gmail.com [mailto:phartz...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:56 AM To: rleesimon Subject: Re: Phones and guys, even Computer Guys On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:43 PM, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote: The new google fone is a big brick ...I have seen it described as a trough ...sounds like it's just what you are augerin'4 ...rush right down to your T-Mobile store to get on line... ha! Well, I was not arguing for it. I was just pointing out a little observation about guys and phones and testosterone. Portable phones are on their way to getting bigger. The manufacturers gotta find a way to sell new stuff. These phones are much like clothing styles in regards to how to sell more of them. Hemlines go up, then they go down, then they go up again. Earth tones are in, then earth tones are out, then back in again. I am sure that within a couple or so years, we will see cell phones being carried in shoulder bags as bag phones of the 70's and early 80's were, but they won't really be cell phones as much as they will be tablet computers being marketed as cell phones. Manufacturers will most assuredly come up with a new name for these things. They will also claim that they are only responding to consumer demand, as if consumers actually run and dictate policy to their design and engineering departments. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Except windows isn't any more or less defective than OS X. Both of you keep bypassing that fact. If you don't believe the initial premise that both OS's are defective, than there is no more reason to continue the rest of the discussion. I base my opinion on security experts, I'm also not in any way saying that out in the world you are in danger of trojans or viruses if you run OSX. OS X is never shown to be defective (except in all the security updates released for it) because their footprint is so small there is no reason for those after money to go after OSX. If the main reason for trojans/viruses these days is to gain control of as many systems as possible, no enterprising black hat would even look at OS X. But, you put OS X on a level playing field with windows and linux, and tell your white hat security experts, take down *any* of the three first and you get some cool cash...and OS X is taken down first for several years with ease that clearly shows defective issues in the OS. On top of that, the security guys go on to say they went after OS X because it was the easiest of three. So the real question is, if two companies release a defective product...but only one is used so much that it SHOWS it's defective nature...are they both defective or just the one? My point all along has been EVERY company should take that responsibility. M$ is a bigger target and they can be made to look like bigger idiots. It shouldn't be too much of problem for them to fund the work. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [Slashdot] MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP
On Jan 9, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: olsmeister writes MagicJack is demonstrating a [0]femtocell device at CES that will [1]allow any GSM phone (locked or unlocked) to place free phone calls over the internet using VOIP. The device costs $40 and includes free service for 1 year. It supposedly will cover a 3,000 sq ft house. That is progress, but still requires a separate computer. I would buy several of these right quick if they contained an embedded controller to handle the last part of the connection. I want the thing to have an Ethernet jack, not a USB. Right now we are testing Skype's $5.95/mo one country deal. After only a few days my wife announced that we had already gotten our money's worth. We still have to place the call from our Mac, but it rings to a regular phone in Italy. Quality is variable, sometimes good and sometimes she sounds like Minnie Mouse. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
On Jan 9, 2010, at 6:07 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: You have to get over the idea of provider and get with the idea of it doesn't profit me to serve you at the same level I would someone who would actually pay my costs. The machine is not working in your direction, girlfriend. Are you not making a strong case for nationalizing the telecoms? I can see all the rural dittoheads voting for Hugo. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...
On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:17 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Whether it was your intention or not, it appeared as though you were admonishing the gentleman for not having the latest version of Photoshop. One of the three sentences you wrote referencing his problem was pointing him in the direction of Photoshop version 11 by asking him why he is using such old versions. That was no help to his situation. Does Photoshop 11 even come in a PPC flavor? Some of you folks are hypersensitive. Any time somebody is doing something unusual the reason is important. Without knowing why it is quite likely that any proffered solution would be unsuitable. Probably moot now. It looks like you folks have scared him off. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
On Jan 9, 2010, at 12:32 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: My point all along has been EVERY company should take that responsibility. M$ is a bigger target and they can be made to look like bigger idiots. It shouldn't be too much of problem for them to fund the work. Back when M$ was creating this mess I was yelling about it almost every month and contrasting it with what others were doing. M$ built a system where everything could link to everything else and they did it at a time when it was already obvious that computer viruses were going to be a problem. I think this was done because M$ thought it would make them more money, but it put all their customers in peril. The unhappiness continues. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
If telecoms want to up their legendary status of customer no service, being nationalized and run by the fed would be the final route to godlike status. On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:47 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Are you not making a strong case for nationalizing the telecoms? I can see all the rural dittoheads voting for Hugo. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...
Well it was his mistake that you'd help instead of going wacko on the thread. On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:53 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Probably moot now. It looks like you folks have scared him off. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
I don't determine quality of service available--neither do you. Providers determine that. They also decide where and what kinds of services they offer. As long as companies decide that nobody lives here and don't provide service for us, we're stuck with the minimum. Moving is not an option. You have to get over the idea of provider and get with the idea of it doesn't profit me to serve you at the same level I would someone who would actually pay my costs. The machine is not working in your direction, girlfriend. The Internet has become a utility. The providers get lots of federal and state money and tax breaks. They nickel and dime you so that the bill is often 10-20% above the stated monthly charge, after taxes. The United States will remain a backward country with respect to broadband [and mobile service] until the providers are not only given incentives to provide fast broadband service to everyone, and include penalties for those who take the incentives as profits instead of providing the service. Verizon took the federal money and didn't use it to expand service into unserved areas--so did other companies. It's getting a little better since that happened in the 90s, but there's a long way to go. Ericsson can get 500 Mbps broadband speed over copper in tests; real world speeds could be 1/6 or 1/8 of that, which is better than fiber or cable in much of the US. Ericsson is a Swedish telco, where it's much more difficult to install new lines, and many customers are in remote locations [ever been to Lappland?]. New VDSL2 standards eliminate almost all of the interference in copper lines, and has a range of 15,000'. Why not in the US??? Utilities are necessities and must be treated as such. Verizon can't complain that they it's not profitable to install fiber in rural areas. They don't need to do that when copper lines are as fast. Does ATT want to remove the copper lines to install fiber, giving it an excuse to keep prices higher? Sure looks like it. Existing VDSL service is overpriced by at least 100%. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics - The Santa Fe New Mexican
Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics Man says electromagnetic sensitivity has forced him to live in his car Tom Sharpe | The New Mexican Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 1/8/10 A Santa Fe man who says he suffers from electromagnetic sensitivity is suing his next-door neighbor for refusing to turn off her cell phone and other electronic devices...[He] cannot stay in a hotel, because hotels and motels all employ wi-fi connections, which trigger a severe illness, says the request for a preliminary injunction... http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Story/Wi-Fi-foe-sues-neighbor-for-using-electronics --- Maybe a tinfoil hat might help. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:53 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:17 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you folks are hypersensitive. What? Because of overexposure? Any time somebody is doing something unusual the reason is important. Eh, what was unusual? The guy had been using Photoshop, then it would not run correctly anymore. While it may be unusual for Photoshop to suddenly crap out like that, that is not what you are focusing on. What you are both saying and placing your focus upon is that the fellow using Photoshop was doing something unusual. I do not see that in anything that the initiator of the thread wrote. Probably moot now. It looks like you folks have scared him off. Oh? It isn't possibly the all inclusive and collective we, being those who responded, who perhaps scared him off? You are left out of that mix? Who made that determination and upon what basis? Let's go tho the videotape, as Warner Wolf would say. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
One word: Skylab Back when M$ was creating this mess I was yelling about it almost every month and contrasting it with what others were doing. M$ built a system where everything could link to everything else ... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:59 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: I think this was done because M$ thought it would make them more money, but it put all their customers in peril. The unhappiness continues. I am sure that you are correct. The approach that Microsoft applied was nothing but capitalism as usual. The same thing took place in God knows how many different businesses prior to the existence of Microsoft, and continues to this day. We all hear constant refrains for less and less oversight of every sort when it comes to businesses even as those same people demand that the general populous be subjected to ever more scrutiny and policing. This means that corporations, with help from authorities, can continue to get away with their shenanigans, and if the peasants eventually try to grab their pitchforks and assault the walls of injustice, they can be severely dealt with. The corporate bosses will be amusedly viewing all of this on TVs and tablet computers in their Swiss chalets while barking orders to their security people over their satellite phones. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [Slashdot] MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP
Right now we are testing Skype's $5.95/mo one country deal. After only a few days my wife announced that we had already gotten our money's worth. We still have to place the call from our Mac, but it rings to a regular phone in Italy. In that case, what you want is the Skype To Go feature. Either with a subscription plan (which you have at 5.95/mo) or Skype credit, you can get a local phone number for free. You call that number from your home/office/cell phone and then get on the skype network to reach the destination number. That is a great way to make skype calls without a computer and with no extra fees. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics - The Santa Fe New Mexican
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:46 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics Man says electromagnetic sensitivity has forced him to live in his car Tom Sharpe | The New Mexican Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 1/8/10 A Santa Fe man who says he suffers from electromagnetic sensitivity is suing his next-door neighbor for refusing to turn off her cell phone and other electronic devices...[He] cannot stay in a hotel, because hotels and motels all employ wi-fi connections, which trigger a severe illness, says the request for a preliminary injunction... http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Story/Wi-Fi-foe-sues-neighbor-for-using-electronics Real or not, Republicans in Florida are right on top of this growing phenomenon. If it'll garner a vote from the golf cart riding retirees in the state, then why not? FLORIDA GOVERNOR PROCLAIMS MAY 2009 AS ELECTROMAGNETIC SENSITIVITY (EMS) AWARENESS MONTH http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/100437 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics - The Santa Fe New Mexican
In order to get the court to grant him an injunction, he would first have to prove that he is in fact suffering from electromagnetic sensitivity and that he is suffering from his neighbor's wifi connection. Good luck with that. If he wants to indulge his delusions, he should wallpaper his house with wire mesh insect screening. Instead, he could use a couple of layers of the aluminum-coated mylar used for insulating houses. Or he could tile his wall and ceilings with mirror tiles to block the signals, but then he would be constantly confronted with the image of his crazy self. By all means, he should also wear a tinfoil hat and foil bodysuit for extra protection. On Jan 9, 2010, at 1:47 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From:b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics - The Santa Fe New Mexican Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics Man says electromagnetic sensitivity has forced him to live in his car Tom Sharpe | The New Mexican Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 1/8/10 A Santa Fe man who says he suffers from electromagnetic sensitivity is suing his next-door neighbor for refusing to turn off her cell phone and other electronic devices...[He] cannot stay in a hotel, because hotels and motels all employ wi-fi connections, which trigger a severe illness, says the request for a preliminary injunction... http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Story/Wi-Fi-foe-sues-neighbor-for-using-electronics --- Maybe a tinfoil hat might help. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics - The Santa Fe New Mexican
Aw, barb, be a sport, take the guy in... -Original Message- From: b_s-wilk [mailto:b1sun...@yahoo.es] Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics - The Santa Fe New Mexican Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics Man says electromagnetic sensitivity has forced him to live in his car Tom Sharpe | The New Mexican Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 1/8/10 A Santa Fe man who says he suffers from electromagnetic sensitivity is suing his next-door neighbor for refusing to turn off her cell phone and other electronic devices...[He] cannot stay in a hotel, because hotels and motels all employ wi-fi connections, which trigger a severe illness, says the request for a preliminary injunction... http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Story/Wi-Fi-foe-sues-neighbor-for-using-electronics --- Maybe a tinfoil hat might help. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
What do you mean by I use the in my Canon fax/printer with great results? Thanks Randall On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:24 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 8, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: The quality of the recycling is key. Some just refill. Others clean, strip and redo the cartridge. I use the in my Canon fax/printer with great results. I avoid refills. New compatible is best. Remanufactured is usually okay. Price is less than half so I'm willing to accept an occasional dud. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
I think he was trying to say he uses them. I just got a cartridge for the church Dell/all-in-one and it states on the invoice refurbished. Paid about half the price of a new one from Dell. Stewart At 04:35 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: What do you mean by I use the in my Canon fax/printer with great results? Thanks Randall On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:24 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 8, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: The quality of the recycling is key. Some just refill. Others clean, strip and redo the cartridge. I use the in my Canon fax/printer with great results. I avoid refills. New compatible is best. Remanufactured is usually okay. Price is less than half so I'm willing to accept an occasional dud. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
Are you not making a strong case for nationalizing the telecoms? No. I don't think so, anyway. But that's one solution. The telco has been nationalized in the past. It hardly hurt anyone and it benefitted rural areas. That was universal service. As long as it was, pardon me, landlines. Technology has obviously changed. If it is time for the government, that you and others elected, to step in with a national mandate for broadband, a la France, then there are going to have to be negotiations. I won't be at that table, but I know what the conditions are going to be. Just as they were on the former deal. Trust me, you really don't want that. Not if you want a free industry and competition. Capitalism produces casualties. But that is what you voted for with the Telecom Act(s). You get what you pay for. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
*My Canon literature implies that getting the OEM Canon toner will extend the life of the printer. Anyone know if there is any evidence that this would be true? Randall * On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: The two I mentioned will replace if they do not work. I have good luck with them. They rebuild OEM empties. Or purchase compatibles. Not sure what you get when you get it as it looks new. These companies buy the OEM empties for cents on the dollar and sell at about 50% retail for ink jet replacements. I have had generally good luck, but if it does not work, I call and they send replacement. Stewart At 07:24 PM 1/8/2010, you wrote: I use the in my Canon fax/printer with great results. I avoid refills. New compatible is best. Remanufactured is usually okay. Price is less than half so I'm willing to accept an occasional dud. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
*He uses the OEM toner catridges? Guess we'll have to see what he says. BTW, the cartridge on InkSmiles is new (the only one they have) and costs as much as the Canon OEM and more than from Staples. The other site you mentioned has them (says built from scratch) for less than half this price. A good deal if it doesn't shorten life of printer or cause other problems. * On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: I think he was trying to say he uses them. I just got a cartridge for the church Dell/all-in-one and it states on the invoice refurbished. Paid about half the price of a new one from Dell. Stewart At 04:35 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: What do you mean by I use the in my Canon fax/printer with great results? Thanks Randall On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:24 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 8, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: The quality of the recycling is key. Some just refill. Others clean, strip and redo the cartridge. I use the in my Canon fax/printer with great results. I avoid refills. New compatible is best. Remanufactured is usually okay. Price is less than half so I'm willing to accept an occasional dud. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [Slashdot] MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP
How about doing that with google voice? -Original Message- From: Michael Fernando [mailto:michael@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [Slashdot] MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP Right now we are testing Skype's $5.95/mo one country deal. After only a few days my wife announced that we had already gotten our money's worth. We still have to place the call from our Mac, but it rings to a regular phone in Italy. In that case, what you want is the Skype To Go feature. Either with a subscription plan (which you have at 5.95/mo) or Skype credit, you can get a local phone number for free. You call that number from your home/office/cell phone and then get on the skype network to reach the destination number. That is a great way to make skype calls without a computer and with no extra fees. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics - The Santa Fe New Mexican
On Jan 9, 2010, at 1:47 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Tom Sharpe | The New Mexican Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 1/8/10 A Santa Fe man who says he suffers from electromagnetic sensitivity is suing his next-door neighbor for refusing to turn off her cell phone and other electronic devices...[He] cannot stay in a hotel, because hotels and motels all employ wi-fi connections, which trigger a severe illness, says the request for a preliminary injunction... http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Story/Wi-Fi-foe-sues-neighbor-for-using-electronics The first parallel which came to mind (well, MY mind, at any rate) was that of Moslem extremists who claim, due to whatever sensitivity comes from that particular form of narrow-mindedness, to be somehow inherently intolerant of not just all other religions, but also of any cultural or technological progress since, quite literally, the Dark Ages. What, in any meaningful terms, is the existential or philosophical difference between this New Mexican Luddite claiming, without any empirical evidence to support the claim, that his neighbor's use of photons in this manner is harshing the Luddite's mellow, and a Taliban mullah claiming that modern or Western values, like freedom, liberty and democracy, which give people the ability to worship, learn, and achieve as they please (rather than as the mullah pleases for them), harshes his? I think both the mullah and the Luddite are saying something like this: If I cannot bring myself to accept it, given my narrow, subjective, and utterly arbitrary criteria, then I forbid you to accept it, as well. Please, somebody, tell me, so I can get my minimum daily adult requirement of irony, that the Luddite has either a blog or a Facebook page. Bob I'm on the case, from outer space! OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2609 - Release Date: 01/09/10 07:35:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
Usually has to do with quality of rebuilds and parts changed/refurbished. Plus quality of toner, and if they leak. Some of the cheaper ones have a tendency to leak which will gunk up the interior. A good quality refurb/generic will be not cause problems. But Canon cannot guarantee the quality of a refurb/generic so they will not guarantee the life of the printer with those in it. Stewart At 04:53 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: *My Canon literature implies that getting the OEM Canon toner will extend the life of the printer. Anyone know if there is any evidence that this would be true? Randall Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
[ever been to Lappland?] No. But technically DSL is a badly flawed technology from an economic standpoint. It requres the maintenance of a copper network which is very, very expensive. And becoming more so because most of these facilities are nearing or past the end of their service life. DSL is like putting a terminal patient on life support. Utilities are necessities and must be treated as such. Agreed. Verizon can't complain that they it's not profitable to install fiber in rural areas. It isn't. I'm not complaining, I'm just saying what it is. Does ATT want to remove the copper lines to install fiber, giving it an excuse to keep prices higher? Sure looks like it. Existing VDSL service is overpriced by at least 100%. Look, Betty, it's not that I don't want you to have a high bandwidth connection (you seem to be doing pretty well with the bandwidth that you've got, forsooth). I'm trying to tell you that I'm not going to bankrupt the company in pursuit of a fool's errand. I don't know where you might have got the idea that it doesn't take actual, physical effort and a boatload of capital, dollars, humans, machines and equipment, etc. Even lawyers and so forth, to do this. It's an enterprise that is audacious for a private capital investment. And, it may fail. If I CAN'T remake the network, then it dies. Just like that. I fold up my laptop, switch off the lights, and bicycle off into the distance with my swag, such as it is. What you want at the moment is instant gratification. I'm telling you that's impossible. Unless you are willing to pay the freight. Or unless you can convince the electorate to pay for it. What I want you to do is forget about the momentary discomfort and wait until I get around to it, on my schedule. If you want to run the schedule you have a vote. But I'm not on your payroll. I AM your neighbor, though. I want this as much as you do. It is certainly bad that American capitalism is so effed up. Somehow we seem to figure it out, though. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor for using electronics - The Santa Fe New Mexican
Thank you Betty and all! This is one of the best posts in a while. Robert Michael Abrams wrote: On Jan 9, 2010, at 1:47 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Tom Sharpe | The New Mexican Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 1/8/10 A Santa Fe man who says he suffers from electromagnetic sensitivity is suing his next-door neighbor for refusing to turn off her cell phone and other electronic devices...[He] cannot stay in a hotel, because hotels and motels all employ wi-fi connections, which trigger a severe illness, says the request for a preliminary injunction... http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Story/Wi-Fi-foe-sues-neighbor-for-using-electronics The first parallel which came to mind (well, MY mind, at any rate) was that of Moslem extremists who claim, due to whatever sensitivity comes from that particular form of narrow-mindedness, to be somehow inherently intolerant of not just all other religions, but also of any cultural or technological progress since, quite literally, the Dark Ages. What, in any meaningful terms, is the existential or philosophical difference between this New Mexican Luddite claiming, without any empirical evidence to support the claim, that his neighbor's use of photons in this manner is harshing the Luddite's mellow, and a Taliban mullah claiming that modern or Western values, like freedom, liberty and democracy, which give people the ability to worship, learn, and achieve as they please (rather than as the mullah pleases for them), harshes his? I think both the mullah and the Luddite are saying something like this: If I cannot bring myself to accept it, given my narrow, subjective, and utterly arbitrary criteria, then I forbid you to accept it, as well. Please, somebody, tell me, so I can get my minimum daily adult requirement of irony, that the Luddite has either a blog or a Facebook page. Bob I'm on the case, from outer space! OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
I have not bought a printer cartridge from Dell since we bought it over three years ago. I have been using refurbs/generic from a number of sources. The ones from LD are refurbs. Which means they get used carts. Strip them down and rebuild them. Not just refill. This gives you much better life and use. Stewart At 04:55 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: *He uses the OEM toner catridges? Guess we'll have to see what he says. BTW, the cartridge on InkSmiles is new (the only one they have) and costs as much as the Canon OEM and more than from Staples. The other site you mentioned has them (says built from scratch) for less than half this price. A good deal if it doesn't shorten life of printer or cause other problems. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
So would using a refurb/generic void the warranty? Can't find mine. On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Usually has to do with quality of rebuilds and parts changed/refurbished. Plus quality of toner, and if they leak. Some of the cheaper ones have a tendency to leak which will gunk up the interior. A good quality refurb/generic will be not cause problems. But Canon cannot guarantee the quality of a refurb/generic so they will not guarantee the life of the printer with those in it. Stewart At 04:53 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: *My Canon literature implies that getting the OEM Canon toner will extend the life of the printer. Anyone know if there is any evidence that this would be true? Randall Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
Would be hard to prove it. Secondly with the short warranties on these things you are usually just past the warranty when you change out your first toner. When we got ours I got extended warranty plus ordered a hi yield cart. The first one lasted about 6 mos. The hi yields last about 9-10 mos. Nothing was ever said when we had to swap ours out twice with the toner carts. Matter of fact they want you to take it out before you ship the old one back. The only guarantee the OEM toners give you is that it will work with your machine. Same one the generic folks give you. Like I said with both of the ones I mentioned they will ship you out a replacement for any bad one you get. No questions asked. My caveat with any generic seller, check out their reviews with someone. Some of these companies sell junk. Also you want rebuilds at a bare minimum. Not refills. Rebuilds replace wearable parts. Stewart At 07:14 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: So would using a refurb/generic void the warranty? Can't find mine. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
Your printer will be obsolete and unsupported by then-current software long before it actually dies. Or they just won't sell toner cartridges for it any more because the market is too small. (for home / home office use) We are getting more and more paperless as time goes bye. At 05:53 PM 1/9/2010, Ranbo wrote: *My Canon literature implies that getting the OEM Canon toner will extend the life of the printer. Anyone know if there is any evidence that this would be true? Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
You obviously have never dealt with the clientele I deal with. If we could install two flat screens I would be able to print less. Folks not interested. They want printed material in front of them. Churches (smaller ones less than 200+ membership) will be the last bastions of printed material. Our church body just published (within the last two years) a new printed hymnal. A lot of us questioned the usefulness of publishing an expensive and useless piece of material when they could have pushed all of it to use electronically. Instead they want us to pay thousands for the new hymnal and then if we want electronic one spends Hundreds more!!! Institutions do not always follow technological trends, and tend to be quite behind the times. Stewart At 07:40 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: Your printer will be obsolete and unsupported by then-current software long before it actually dies. Or they just won't sell toner cartridges for it any more because the market is too small. (for home / home office use) We are getting more and more paperless as time goes bye. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
*Do you ever see the day when each person coming to a service will be handed an Apple tablet, with all the prayers, hymns, etc. on them? Heck, could have the whole Bible downloaded, as well as sermons, nice pics and whatever else would be useful. By the time today's teenagers replace all the current Church goers, could services be mostly virtual? Randall * On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: You obviously have never dealt with the clientele I deal with. If we could install two flat screens I would be able to print less. Folks not interested. They want printed material in front of them. Churches (smaller ones less than 200+ membership) will be the last bastions of printed material. Our church body just published (within the last two years) a new printed hymnal. A lot of us questioned the usefulness of publishing an expensive and useless piece of material when they could have pushed all of it to use electronically. Instead they want us to pay thousands for the new hymnal and then if we want electronic one spends Hundreds more!!! Institutions do not always follow technological trends, and tend to be quite behind the times. Stewart At 07:40 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: Your printer will be obsolete and unsupported by then-current software long before it actually dies. Or they just won't sell toner cartridges for it any more because the market is too small. (for home / home office use) We are getting more and more paperless as time goes bye. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
In some places they are getting that way. In some areas local churches are branch offices/satellite buildings of a big main campus. The sermon etc. is broadcast there. I have done Bible Studies using nothing but power point etc. Within my faith group however that will not be the case as we do not believe in hands off ministry or worship etc. There are certain aspects of our doctrine that requires a live body to be present and do things. Don't need tablets for worship, many places have large screens mounted up front and they work well. My buildings architecture dictates against those. That is why I said two large screen LCD panels. 50 panels mounted properly one on each side would cover 100% of the congregation. (My church is a round church, so we sit in an arc.) Easier seen as far as I am concerned. Also larger print for those with eye site problems. We are probably talking about 5K easily and, well (this is my church) the folks tend to be skin flints especially about technology. I keep a lot of my resources on my work laptop so this is technologically possible. (Bibles, study notes dictionaries, etc.) Stewart At 08:04 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: *Do you ever see the day when each person coming to a service will be handed an Apple tablet, with all the prayers, hymns, etc. on them? Heck, could have the whole Bible downloaded, as well as sermons, nice pics and whatever else would be useful. By the time today's teenagers replace all the current Church goers, could services be mostly virtual? Randall * On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: You obviously have never dealt with the clientele I deal with. If we could install two flat screens I would be able to print less. Folks not interested. They want printed material in front of them. Churches (smaller ones less than 200+ membership) will be the last bastions of printed material. Our church body just published (within the last two years) a new printed hymnal. A lot of us questioned the usefulness of publishing an expensive and useless piece of material when they could have pushed all of it to use electronically. Instead they want us to pay thousands for the new hymnal and then if we want electronic one spends Hundreds more!!! Institutions do not always follow technological trends, and tend to be quite behind the times. Stewart At 07:40 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: Your printer will be obsolete and unsupported by then-current software long before it actually dies. Or they just won't sell toner cartridges for it any more because the market is too small. (for home / home office use) We are getting more and more paperless as time goes bye. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Planet of the Apps [was: Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor...]
In case you missed it, CNBC had a feature on Thursday called PLANET OF THE APPS: A HANDHELD REVOLUTION! CNBC's Planet of the Apps: A Handheld Revolution! looks at the recent app explosion and how they have changed the way we live. Meet the creators who are designing applications and making money. From engineers to everyday people, anyone can become an app developer. The show will also air on Sunday, January 10th at 11PM. http://www.cnbc.com/id/34632328 Too late? Video is also available here, http://is.gd/5Z5m4- [with preview], and here, http://is.gd/5Z5M5- [preview]. Are you protected from electromagnetic radiation if you wear a mylar suit while using your cellphone? Thank you Betty and all! This is one of the best posts in a while. A Santa Fe man who says he suffers from electromagnetic sensitivity is suing his next-door neighbor for refusing to turn off her cell phone and other electronic devices...[He] cannot stay in a hotel, because hotels and motels all employ wi-fi connections, which trigger a severe illness, says the request for a preliminary injunction... http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Story/Wi-Fi-foe-sues-neighbor-for-using-electronics The first parallel which came to mind (well, MY mind, at any rate) was that of Moslem extremists who claim, due to whatever sensitivity comes from that particular form of narrow-mindedness, to be somehow inherently intolerant of not just all other religions, but also of any cultural or technological progress since, quite literally, the Dark Ages. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
On Jan 9, 2010, at 5:35 PM, Ranbo wrote: What do you mean by I use the in my Canon fax/printer with great results? I must have pressed the m key too lightly. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] generic laser printer cartridges?
On Jan 9, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Ranbo wrote: *My Canon literature implies that getting the OEM Canon toner will extend the life of the printer. Anyone know if there is any evidence that this would be true? Vague wording on such a claim should give you pause. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Planet of the Apps [was: Wi-Fi foe sues neighbor...]
On Jan 9, 2010, at 10:06 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: In case you missed it, CNBC had a feature on Thursday called PLANET OF THE APPS: A HANDHELD REVOLUTION! I noticed everyone in the show was using a Macintosh. So this app thing must definitely have no future. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
