Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-16 Thread Richard P.
Thanks for the great recommendations. I ended up at 5-Below today and 
found the Speck Toughskin for $5, along with a wall power supply and a 
12v charger, also $5 each. I'll work on the cable this week. We 
appreciate your sharing your experiences.


Richard P.

b_ wrote:
You can buy cases online and locally from $1 to $30, sometimes for 
the same case--nice ones can be found for $20. Same for iPod car 
chargers. Got one at the 5-Below cheapo store, and see them at Target, 
etc.  If your car stereo has an audio input jack, then all you need is 
an audio cable, minijack male to male, found at Radio Shack, KMart, 
etc. Plug into car audio jack and iPod headphone jack.


Not iPod ready :-(  ??  We have two solutions. One car has both 
cassette player and CD, so we use a cassette audio adapter. Otherwise 
we use FM transmitters. Monster iCarPlay devices are 
excellent--Cavan's was ~$30. iRiver's is OK in my truck. I like my old 
Arkon because it goes down to 87.4 FM--no interference. There are lots 
of other brands of better or worse quality. Some devices are 
chargers/docks/transmitters all in one.


more details:  http://ilounge.com/



This is all great information. I've narrowed it down to the 2nd Gen 
Nano 8GB which looks like it will do all that is needed. As far as 
accessories go, where is the best place to get them? The Apple Store 
offers the Belkin case online:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=2C26E916nplm=TL349LL/A 



The car/stereo connector cable, will any cable do or is it special to 
Apple. Apple wants $20 for it.

Also, is the Apple Care Protection plan recommended?
Downloaded the iTunes last night so I'm ready there. 







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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
As for accessories you can find things all over.

Even stores that do not sell anything from Apple may have a large 
selection of iPod accessories. For example, Radio Shack has a large 
collection of iPod accessories, but no iPods. They are probably working 
hard to change that. 



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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
I love my 4g nano, but would recommend something larger. You don't  
really want to have to manage playlist. You just want to sync.

A colleague recently replaced his iPod with a nano. He loves it, but 
worries that it is so small that he may lose it.

A co-worker's husband gave her an iPod for Christmas with with photos  
and tunes from their courtship. She cried. Evil man setting such high  
standards for the rest of us.

I did that last Christmas except that I loaded it with pictures of our 
kids and family and all her favorite music.



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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-15 Thread b_s-wilk
You can buy cases online and locally from $1 to $30, sometimes for the 
same case--nice ones can be found for $20. Same for iPod car chargers. 
Got one at the 5-Below cheapo store, and see them at Target, etc.  If 
your car stereo has an audio input jack, then all you need is an audio 
cable, minijack male to male, found at Radio Shack, KMart, etc. Plug 
into car audio jack and iPod headphone jack.


Not iPod ready :-(  ??  We have two solutions. One car has both cassette 
player and CD, so we use a cassette audio adapter. Otherwise we use FM 
transmitters. Monster iCarPlay devices are excellent--Cavan's was ~$30. 
iRiver's is OK in my truck. I like my old Arkon because it goes down to 
87.4 FM--no interference. There are lots of other brands of better or 
worse quality. Some devices are chargers/docks/transmitters all in one.


more details:  http://ilounge.com/



This is all great information. I've narrowed it down to the 2nd Gen Nano 8GB 
which looks like it will do all that is needed. As far as accessories go, where 
is the best place to get them? The Apple Store offers the Belkin case online:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=2C26E916nplm=TL349LL/A

The car/stereo connector cable, will any cable do or is it special to Apple. 
Apple wants $20 for it.
Also, is the Apple Care Protection plan recommended?
Downloaded the iTunes last night so I'm ready there. 




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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-15 Thread mike
I found some nice *really* cheap cases at autozone of all places.

Mike

On Dec 15, 2007 12:10 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As for accessories you can find things all over.

 Even stores that do not sell anything from Apple may have a large
 selection of iPod accessories. For example, Radio Shack has a large
 collection of iPod accessories, but no iPods. They are probably working
 hard to change that.


 
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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have just found out that my wife would like (read: is
expecting), an iPod for Christmas. I know next to nothing about them...

The good news is that it is hard to go wrong with an iPod. Tey are 
uniformly well designed. The main issues you have to look at are storage 
capacity and controls. The smallest Shuffle has no screen so it won't let 
you pick specific songs. The Nano now has all the features of the big 
iPods, including video playing. I'm not sure if it will play video on a 
TV, like the big iPods do. The Classic iPods big selling point is massive 
storage. The Touch is the coolest iPod of the future. Some people prefer 
the Nano or Classic because they can be operated by touch without 
removing it from a pocket.



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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-15 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Radio Shack does have iPods on the web page and they had them in the
local store when I last looked.  I wonder if they sold out or a local
franchise just didn't stock them.

On Dec 15, 2007 2:10 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As for accessories you can find things all over.

 Even stores that do not sell anything from Apple may have a large
 selection of iPod accessories. For example, Radio Shack has a large
 collection of iPod accessories, but no iPods. They are probably working
 hard to change that.



 
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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-14 Thread Site Guy
Santa sez that I've been a good boy this year, as a result I'm gonna get a 
160gig iPod Classic.
Cool beans, my entire collection of CDs will fit on it in Apple Lossless 
format. Phar Out.


Bart

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I'm ashamed to say I can't leave home without my 30GB video iPod.   I've 
got my entire CD collect
I never leave home without my 60 gb video iPod, either...and I only  have 
10gb left!  If you get your wife a gift cert. for Audible.com  she'll get 
hooked on audio books too. I think now you have to get  what they call the 
Classic ipod to get a similar one. I was really  wanting an iPOd touch 
before they came out but they don't have nearly  enough storage on them 
and no buttons that enable you to turn it on  and off or go back and 
forward without looking at the screen.  So,  I'll stick with what I have.










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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-14 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
If the car stereo takes a standard head phone jack then any cable will do.

You may have to look for a second gen nano.  Some stores probably
still have them but I think the Apple store is pretty much all 3rd
gen.

As for accessories you can find things all over.   The Apple Store is
a good place to look.  They have a bunch of things in Five Below which
vary widely in quality but there is a good variety.  MicroCentre has
lots of accessories as well. I have an alarm clock with an iPod
dock/Clock Radio I got at Bed Bath and Beyond which is very nice.
Borders has a Sony Dock/Clock Radio for $99.99.  Lots of stuff at the
Sharper Image.  I got a really nice hard case at The Container Store
for $5 for my wife's Nano.

On Dec 14, 2007 1:11 PM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is all great information. I've narrowed it down to the 2nd Gen Nano
 8GB which looks like it will do all that is needed. As far as
 accessories go, where is the best place to get them? The Apple Store
 offers the Belkin case online:
 http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=2C26E916nplm=TL349LL/A

 The car/stereo connector cable, will any cable do or is it special to
 Apple. Apple wants $20 for it.
 Also, is the Apple Care Protection plan recommended?
 Downloaded the iTunes last night so I'm ready there.

 Thanks,

 Richard P.

 John wrote:
  You can start preparing for the purchase by downloading iTunes- It is
  freeware.  http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
Don't forget to
  get a case and a method to play in the car.
 
 



 
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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-14 Thread Richard P.
This is all great information. I've narrowed it down to the 2nd Gen Nano 
8GB which looks like it will do all that is needed. As far as 
accessories go, where is the best place to get them? The Apple Store 
offers the Belkin case online:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=2C26E916nplm=TL349LL/A

The car/stereo connector cable, will any cable do or is it special to 
Apple. Apple wants $20 for it.

Also, is the Apple Care Protection plan recommended?
Downloaded the iTunes last night so I'm ready there.

Thanks,

Richard P.

John wrote:

You can start preparing for the purchase by downloading iTunes- It is
freeware.  http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/  
  Don't forget to

get a case and a method to play in the car.

  




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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-14 Thread David Newhall
I love my 4g nano, but would recommend something larger. You don't  
really want to have to manage playlist. You just want to sync.


A co-worker's husband gave her an iPod for Christmas with with photos  
and tunes from their courtship. She cried. Evil man setting such high  
standards for the rest of us.


David Newhall
Falls Church, VA



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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-14 Thread Richard P.
That would be a tough act to follow, especially at this late date. At 
least I know what to shoot for.


We got the 8GB so that should hold us for a bit.

Richard P.

David wrote:
I love my 4g nano, but would recommend something larger. You don't 
really want to have to manage playlist. You just want to sync.


A co-worker's husband gave her an iPod for Christmas with with photos 
and tunes from their courtship. She cried. Evil man setting such high 
standards for the rest of us.






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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-13 Thread David Turk
I'm ashamed to say I can't leave home without my 30GB video iPod.  I've got my 
entire CD collection (about 180 CD's--2185 songs, plus 1 movie  3 video games) 
on it.  I've still got 17GB free.  It was about $250 when I bought it 2 years 
ago.

The Nano ($150) does have a video screen, but it's so small I don't think it's 
worth it.  A Shuffle is about $80, no video  can hold about 240 songs.

You can import songs through the free iTunes software (Mac  PC), either from 
the store or your CD's.  It's pretty easy.

david

David Turk
Manager, Preservation Imaging Services
Indiana Historical Society
450 W. Ohio St.
Indianapolis, IN  46202
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I have just found out that my wife would like (read: is expecting), an
iPod for Christmas. I know next to nothing about them other than that
they store and play music. In looking at the Apple website, I would
think that something like the iPod Nano would suffice; something that
would handle a decent amount of songs and is able to select songs if
wanted. No video involved at this point. I just don't know what's
involved in the process of getting music into the iPod , and/or is there
a better one than others as far as ease of use and so on.

Any thoughts, reviews or recommendations will be welcome. Thanks in advance.

Richard P.



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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-13 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
You can start preparing for the purchase by downloading iTunes- It is
freeware.  http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/  Yo can now start
to transfer your CD collection to a hard drive.  This will take a long
time if you have a large collection so cherry  pick her favorites to
do first.  I have a PC with a CD and DVD drive so I rotate through
alternating the drives so it goes a bit faster.  The good news is that
iTunes is pretty good at attaching titles to the files so it isn't
that much work.

When I gave my wife her iPod (4 GB Nano) last year I had it fully
charged and full of Christmas music and other music.  I would throw on
an audio book she would really like to hear as well.  Don't forget to
get a case and a method to play in the car.

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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-13 Thread Bill L'Hommedieu


On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Richard P. wrote:

I have just found out that my wife would like (read: is expecting), an 
iPod for Christmas. I know next to nothing about them other than that 
they store and play music. In looking at the Apple website, I would 
think that something like the iPod Nano would suffice; something that 
would handle a decent amount of songs and is able to select songs if 
wanted. No video involved at this point. I just don't know what's 
involved in the process of getting music into the iPod , and/or is 
there a better one than others as far as ease of use and so on.


Any thoughts, reviews or recommendations will be welcome. Thanks in 
advance.


Richard P.




In addition to storing all or selected choices your of music, (CDs, 
vinyl, even tapes) you canalso download podcasts through ITunes and 
other selected sites, most for free.
Podcasts are recorded selections and segments of broadcast programs, 
many from NPR. These podcasts can be subscribed too and downloaded 
automatically each day, or week (example:  The News of Lake Wobegon 
segment from Prairie Home Companion, after each broadcast). You can 
then sync your Ipod with new material.
In addition to the broadcast podcasts, ITunes offers ITunes U, a 
collection of college level lectures from institutions all over the 
country Many of these have video of the lectures as well.
For long trips in the car or plane, and being your own programming 
director, or listening to missed broadcasts away from your computer, 
you and our wife are making a great choice.
Also there are downloadable books on tape from audible.com and other 
sites.



Bill L'Hommedieu





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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-13 Thread Site Guy

David,

Are you saving your music as AAC or Apple Lossless?

I ask because the Nano or Shuffle can only process AAC. The iPod Classic on 
the other hand can play Apple Lossless.


Bart



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I'm ashamed to say I can't leave home without my 30GB video iPod.  I've 
got my entire CD collection (about 180 CD's--2185 songs, plus 1 movie  3 
video games) on it.  I've still got 17GB free.  It was about $250 when I 
bought it 2 years ago.


The Nano ($150) does have a video screen, but it's so small I don't think 
it's worth it.  A Shuffle is about $80, no video  can hold about 240 
songs.


You can import songs through the free iTunes software (Mac  PC), either 
from the store or your CD's.  It's pretty easy.


   david

David Turk
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Subject: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

I have just found out that my wife would like (read: is expecting), an
iPod for Christmas. I know next to nothing about them other than that
they store and play music. In looking at the Apple website, I would
think that something like the iPod Nano would suffice; something that
would handle a decent amount of songs and is able to select songs if
wanted. No video involved at this point. I just don't know what's
involved in the process of getting music into the iPod , and/or is there
a better one than others as far as ease of use and so on.

Any thoughts, reviews or recommendations will be welcome. Thanks in 
advance.


Richard P.



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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-13 Thread mike
my apple nano plays lossless...not that i ever do.

Mike

On Dec 13, 2007 2:35 PM, Site Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David,

 Are you saving your music as AAC or Apple Lossless?

 I ask because the Nano or Shuffle can only process AAC. The iPod Classic
 on
 the other hand can play Apple Lossless.

 Bart



 - Original Message -
 From: David Turk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?


  I'm ashamed to say I can't leave home without my 30GB video iPod.  I've
  got my entire CD collection (about 180 CD's--2185 songs, plus 1 movie 
 3
  video games) on it.  I've still got 17GB free.  It was about $250 when I
  bought it 2 years ago.
 
  The Nano ($150) does have a video screen, but it's so small I don't
 think
  it's worth it.  A Shuffle is about $80, no video  can hold about 240
  songs.
 
  You can import songs through the free iTunes software (Mac  PC), either
  from the store or your CD's.  It's pretty easy.
 
 david
 
  David Turk
  Manager, Preservation Imaging Services
  Indiana Historical Society
  450 W. Ohio St.
  Indianapolis, IN  46202
  (317) 232-4592
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P.
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  Subject: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?
 
  I have just found out that my wife would like (read: is expecting), an
  iPod for Christmas. I know next to nothing about them other than that
  they store and play music. In looking at the Apple website, I would
  think that something like the iPod Nano would suffice; something that
  would handle a decent amount of songs and is able to select songs if
  wanted. No video involved at this point. I just don't know what's
  involved in the process of getting music into the iPod , and/or is there
  a better one than others as far as ease of use and so on.
 
  Any thoughts, reviews or recommendations will be welcome. Thanks in
  advance.
 
  Richard P.
 
 
  
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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-13 Thread b_s-wilk
I LOVE my iPod nano!! I have a 20GB iPod; my husband offers to lend me 
his 80GB video iPod, but I really like the Nano. It's small, light, and 
is the last pink one sold before the new ones were released. If I were 
buying a new iPod, I'd get the 8GB video Nano or the iPod touch for web, 
photos, video AND music and podcasts.


I like the flash memory better than the hard drive. It's faster, and 
much easier to fast forward and go back in podcasts. The size of the 
Nano is perfect for me, although I wish I had video. The only color I'd 
consider is red; the others are too boring. I'll have to borrow my son's 
iPod touch when he gets his soon [I won't be bored with that, either]. 
Go to the Apple Store and play with the iPods. The Nano screen is 
remarkably clear and easy to see, although small. You can still get the 
2nd gen Nanos online; they do audio and photos but no video.


Install iTunes, select the iPod when it mounts, set prefs for sync or 
not. Easy. From iTunes, go to the iTunes store to find some podcasts. 
Many web sites also have links to their own podcasts.


Betty


I have just found out that my wife would like (read: is expecting),
an iPod for Christmas. I know next to nothing about them other than
that they store and play music. In looking at the Apple website, I
would think that something like the iPod Nano would suffice;
something that would handle a decent amount of songs and is able to
select songs if wanted. No video involved at this point. I just don't
know what's involved in the process of getting music into the iPod ,
and/or is there a better one than others as far as ease of use and so
on.

Any thoughts, reviews or recommendations will be welcome. Thanks in
advance.




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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-13 Thread Steve at Verizon
Just want to clarify this statement. My first reading was that AAC is 
the ONLY mode which the Nano or Shuffle can handle. But I think you only 
meant Lossless is not. Certainly they can handle MP3 formats as well.


Also, if you have ripped CDs in the WMA format (i.e. you used Windows 
Media Player before), iTunes will automatically convert to AAC when you 
use File == Add Folder to Library.


Site Guy wrote:

David,

Are you saving your music as AAC or Apple Lossless?

I ask because the Nano or Shuffle can only process AAC. The iPod 
Classic on the other hand can play Apple Lossless.


Bart







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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-13 Thread Site Guy

My bad, you are correct!

It's the shuffle that Apple Lossless will not play on.

Sorry

Bart

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my apple nano plays lossless...not that i ever do.

Mike

On Dec 13, 2007 2:35 PM, Site Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


David,

Are you saving your music as AAC or Apple Lossless?

I ask because the Nano or Shuffle can only process AAC. The iPod Classic
on
the other hand can play Apple Lossless.

Bart



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Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?


 I'm ashamed to say I can't leave home without my 30GB video iPod.  I've
 got my entire CD collection (about 180 CD's--2185 songs, plus 1 movie 
3
 video games) on it.  I've still got 17GB free.  It was about $250 when 
 I

 bought it 2 years ago.

 The Nano ($150) does have a video screen, but it's so small I don't
think
 it's worth it.  A Shuffle is about $80, no video  can hold about 240
 songs.

 You can import songs through the free iTunes software (Mac  PC), 
 either

 from the store or your CD's.  It's pretty easy.

david

 David Turk
 Manager, Preservation Imaging Services
 Indiana Historical Society
 450 W. Ohio St.
 Indianapolis, IN  46202
 (317) 232-4592
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P.
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:51 PM
 To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
 Subject: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

 I have just found out that my wife would like (read: is expecting), an
 iPod for Christmas. I know next to nothing about them other than that
 they store and play music. In looking at the Apple website, I would
 think that something like the iPod Nano would suffice; something that
 would handle a decent amount of songs and is able to select songs if
 wanted. No video involved at this point. I just don't know what's
 involved in the process of getting music into the iPod , and/or is 
 there

 a better one than others as far as ease of use and so on.

 Any thoughts, reviews or recommendations will be welcome. Thanks in
 advance.

 Richard P.


 
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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-13 Thread Paula Minor
 The only color I'd consider is red; the others are too boring.  
I'll have to borrow my son's iPod touch when he gets his soon [I  
won't be bored with that, either]. Go to the Apple Store and pl
Woman after my own heart.  I love color everywhere and having to  
choose between black or white really didn't thrill me.  My video iPod  
had a wardrobe of exciting colors and patterned cases!


I gave my son-in-law the new Nano for his birthday and he loves it.   
Tho small, the screen is sharp and clear.
OH...and besides the audio books I mentioned earlier and tons of  
music, I also have a lot of photos, a number of video tutorials for  
photoshop, some tv shows and my address book and reminders on it.   
This version does it allalmost.


Paula
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Re: [CGUYS] iPod Recommendations?

2007-12-13 Thread Paula Minor
I'm ashamed to say I can't leave home without my 30GB video iPod.   
I've got my entire CD collect
I never leave home without my 60 gb video iPod, either...and I only  
have 10gb left!  If you get your wife a gift cert. for Audible.com  
she'll get hooked on audio books too. I think now you have to get  
what they call the Classic ipod to get a similar one. I was really  
wanting an iPOd touch before they came out but they don't have nearly  
enough storage on them and no buttons that enable you to turn it on  
and off or go back and forward without looking at the screen.  So,  
I'll stick with what I have.


Paula
IN/USA
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