[Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Oden Eriksson
Hi.

Here's my proposal. Why not ship distributable win32 applications like 
WinSCP, cygwin, etc?

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Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice.org dictionaries

2003-01-31 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Michal Bukovjan wrote:

 OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.0.2-2mdk
 OpenOffice.org-help-en-1.0.2-2mdk
 OpenOffice.org-l10n-cs-1.0.2-2mdk
 OpenOffice.org-libs-1.0.2-2mdk
 OpenOffice.org-1.0.2-2mdk
 myspell-cs_CZ-1.0.1-0.20030101.5mdk
 
 but only English dictionary is shown to be installed in Writer.

cat /usr/share/dict/ooo/dictionary.lst?

 It used to be both English and Czech (cs).

You have to manually enable it in the Linguistic tab.





Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread danny
On 30 Jan 2003, Austin Acton wrote:

 Okay, here's the todo list.
 Personally, I suggest Danny work on the kernel. 
Why do I always have to do the boring things ;-P

Merging preempt with current cooker is not really a problem. With the new 
XFS it is likely that it will work fine. The lock-breaking is a different 
issue (hasn't been updated since 2.4.18, and there are a few problems with 
that patch), perhaps I take a look at the real low-latency stuff, but no 
idea how well that merges with mdk kernel.

Danny






Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread danny
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Buchan Milne wrote:

 
 Danny, have you got something to show yet, or is the kernel in club the
 best place to start looking?
preempt goes in easily AFAIK tell. lockbreaking not.
wait untill tuesday, I was very busy with work, but monday I take a day 
off.

d.






Re: [Cooker] Fast User Switching done right

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Damian Gatabria wrote:

The screensaver mod would detect the X instance losing focus and
immediately throw the screensaver into a mode where it locked the session
until it again achieved focus, then whoever focussed on the session would
need to know the user's password to be able to get past the screensaver.

  Uhm...if you use GDM's New Login thing, this is what it does...it
  blocks the previous X session with xscreensaver, you need a password
  to get back into the previous session(s).
 
 
 Yep. But the previous poster is talking about doing this every time you switch
 to another tty. Which would be, IMHO, a terrible idea, since every user
 with two bits of experience goes to a text console to compile
 stuff or to run things, and switch back and forth continuously. 
 

No, all you really want is it to automatically lock the screen if you
choose something like New session somewhere on the menu. We're not
talking about hacking XFree86 to lock the screen every time you hit CTRL-ALT

 
Likewise the text console mod would blank the console when it lost focus,
and demand a password before unblanking when focus returned.
 

I really don't think this is necessary, if you want to resume your
console sessions, use screen.

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Fast User Switching done right

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Leon Brooks wrote:
 On Friday 31 January 2003 07:47 am, Damian Gatabria wrote:
 

Umm.. there should be an easy way to disable all of this stuff, right?
 
 
 Yeah, just leave root consoles lying around unprotected on your box. Sooner or 
 later that will result in a lot of stuff being disabled.

# msec 4
and you won't have this, at least not for very long. Of course you can
have it in a different msec level if you set some custom options with
draksec.

 
 I think you missed an important criterion: that the password not be required 
 when switching from an unlocked session belonging to the same user (or 
 presumably anyone with UID 0, on the premise that they could su or the like 
 anyway).

I don't think there is any feasible way to accomplish this, so I think
it is best left alone for now.

If you have root, and you don't know to check all your VTs or set the
timeout to kick you out, and you do this in an enterprise, someone needs
to reconsider whether you should have root or not 

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Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Oden Eriksson wrote:
 Hi.
 
 Here's my proposal. Why not ship distributable win32 applications like 
 WinSCP, cygwin, etc?
 

Cygwin is huge, but I reckon a Windows migration CD wouldn't be bad.
Heck, I think they could have put mozilla on the MNF Cs, which would
have reduced problems with some versions of IE not working.

But, I think then we would need most of what is on the GNU-Win CD.

I would want:
-mingw+msys (cygwin without cygwin, ie native gcc on windows)
-DevC++
-pwdump (samba util for dumping Windows domain sam in smbpasswd format)
-winmclient (client for mserver)
-mozilla
-OpenOffice.org
-sanetwain
-audacity
-gimp
-gkrellm
-putty
-wincvs
-tortoise cvs
-wxwindows
-CUPS win32 postscript driver

In short we would fill one CD very quickly.

Maybe Mandrakesoft should consider shipping something like GnuWin2 or
whatever it's called in Pro-Suite?

Buchan

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[Cooker] patching qt to support foreign cursors

2003-01-31 Thread Daniele Pighin
Hallo guys,
Qt tends to replace many user-defined cursors with its own internal cursors.
This is annoying, as the only cursor theme that would look complete and 
coherent is qt own theme, which is not that eyecandy.
Having qt handling cursors properly is quite easy: qt source must be patched 
with this diff I'm attaching, and configured with the -xcursor option.
Why shouldn't qt be repackaged to allow this improvement?

Credits for this message and its contents go to uga and its contribute to 
kdelook.org http://www.kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=4805

Thanks

Daniele

? examples/trayicon/Makefile
? include/semantic.cache
? src/.obj/debug-shared-mt
? src/kernel/semantic.cache
Index: configure
===
RCS file: /home/kde/qt-copy/configure,v
retrieving revision 1.48
diff -u -3 -p -b -B -r1.48 configure
--- configure	2002/11/13 16:45:53	1.48
+++ configure	2002/11/23 02:07:36
@@ -264,6 +264,7 @@ CFG_XKB=auto
 CFG_NIS=auto
 CFG_CUPS=auto
 CFG_LARGEFILE=auto
+CFG_XCURSOR=no
 CFG_NEWABI=no ### need to break ABI for full Large File support...
 CFG_STL=auto
 CFG_NAS=no
@@ -330,7 +331,7 @@ while [ $# -gt 0 ]; do
 	VAL=no
 	;;
 #Qt style yes options
--incremental|-qvfb|-profile|-shared|-static|-sm|-thread|-xinerama|-tablet|-stl|-freetype|-big-codecs|-xrender|-xft|-xkb|-nis|-cups|-largefile|-h|-help|-v|-verbose|-debug|-release|-fast)
+-incremental|-qvfb|-profile|-shared|-static|-sm|-thread|-xinerama|-tablet|-stl|-freetype|-big-codecs|-xrender|-xft|-xkb|-nis|-cups|-largefile|-xcursor|-h|-help|-v|-verbose|-debug|-release|-fast)
 	VAR=`echo $1 | sed s,^-\(.*\),\1,`
 	VAL=yes
 	;;
@@ -755,6 +756,13 @@ while [ $# -gt 0 ]; do
 	UNKNOWN_OPT=yes
 	fi
 	;;
+xcursor)
+if [ $VAL = yes ] || [ $VAL = no ]; then
+	CFG_XCURSOR=$VAL
+else
+	UNKNOWN_OPT=yes
+fi
+	;;
 newabi)
 	if [ $VAL = yes ] || [ $VAL = no ]; then
 	CFG_NEWABI=$VAL
@@ -1695,6 +1703,7 @@ Usage:  $relconf [-prefix dir] [-buildke
 	[-no-largefile] [-largefile] [-no-stl] [-stl]
 	[-Istring] [-lstring] [-Lstring] [-Rstring] [-disable-module]
 	[-with-module setting] [-without-module setting] [-fast] [-no-fast]
+[-xcursor]
 
 Installation options:
 
@@ -1861,6 +1870,13 @@ if [ $PLATFORM_X11 = yes ]; then
 	XRY=*
 	XRN= 
 fi
+if [ $CFG_XCURSOR = no ]; then
+	XCRY= 
+	XCRN=*
+else
+	XCRY=*
+	XCRN= 
+fi
 if [ $CFG_TABLET = no ]; then
 	XIY= 
 	XIN=*
@@ -1898,6 +1914,11 @@ Qt/X11 only:
  $XFTY  -xft ... Compile Xft support.
 			 Requires X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h and libXft.
 
+ $XCRN  -no-xcursor  Do not compile with XCursor support 
+ (use native Qt cursors)
+ $XCRY  -xcursor ... Compile XCursor support.
+
+
  $XIN  -no-tablet . Do not compile Tablet support.
  $XIY  -tablet  Compile Tablet support.
 			 Requires IRIX with wacom.h and libXi or
@@ -2731,6 +2752,10 @@ if [ $CFG_LARGEFILE = yes ]; then
 fi
 fi
 
+if [ $CFG_XCURSOR = yes ]; then
+echo #define QT_USE_APPROXIMATE_CURSORS$outpath/include/qconfig.h.new
+fi
+
 if [ -n $QCONFIG_FLAGS ]; then
 for cfg in $QCONFIG_FLAGS; do
 
@@ -2901,6 +2926,7 @@ if [ $PLATFORM_X11 = yes ]; then
 echo Tablet support .. $CFG_TABLET
 echo XRender support . $CFG_XRENDER
 echo Xft support . $CFG_FREETYPE
+echo XCursor support . $CFG_XCURSOR
 echo XKB Support . $CFG_XKB
 fi
 



Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 30 Jan 2003, Austin Acton wrote:
 
 
Okay, here's the todo list.
Personally, I suggest Danny work on the kernel. 
 
 Why do I always have to do the boring things ;-P

You can do the boring things, plus the rest if you want ... but I think
I would be wasting my time looking at the kernel, don't know about
Austin ...

Like maintaining samba for stable releases and samba3 for cooker is
exciting ;-)

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Re: [Cooker] JDM has changed (IMNSHO) for the worst...

2003-01-31 Thread Pascal
Le Vendredi 31 Janvier 2003 05:06, Gary Greene a écrit :
 Can some one tell me why it was deemed that the kdm login dialog needed to
 change to a add-on that isn't in the stock KDE distribution? It looks kinda
 clumsy from a UI design standpoint. That, and I personally LIKED the stock
 3.1 login UI.

I second this. There are bugz to be fixed before spending time for cosmetics, 
or please do it in a separate package...

And more : the default action for ENTER KEY is the REBOOT icon !





Re: [Cooker] JDM has changed (IMNSHO) for the worst...

2003-01-31 Thread Simone Riccio
Pascal wrote:


Le Vendredi 31 Janvier 2003 05:06, Gary Greene a écrit :
 

Can some one tell me why it was deemed that the kdm login dialog needed to
change to a add-on that isn't in the stock KDE distribution? It looks kinda
clumsy from a UI design standpoint. That, and I personally LIKED the stock
3.1 login UI.
   


I second this. There are bugz to be fixed before spending time for cosmetics, 
or please do it in a separate package...

And more : the default action for ENTER KEY is the REBOOT icon !


 

i agree, nice attempt anyhow, but that's really ugly looking!!! If MDK 
is willing to customize the login manager should think about making it 
much better than the stock KDE or gnome ones... come on!!

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Re: [Cooker] World Clock

2003-01-31 Thread Simone Riccio
It is the same on several different pcs with fresh installs... so i 
don't think the problem is about old settings...

Lonnie Borntreger wrote:

Does anybody have an idea what could be wrong with my setup to have
kworldclock show the exact same time for all time zones?  It used to
work fine some months ago, but for the last 2-3 months, all time zones
show the exact same time.  Is it possible that one of the cooker updates
to timezone, timeconfig or whatever doesn't like some old setting that I
still have around?

TTFN, 
Lonnie Borntreger



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[Cooker] Kopete not connetcting to MSN

2003-01-31 Thread Simone Riccio
Am I the only one experiencing trouble with kopete and msn? the msn 
butterfly icon on the lower left keeps blinkin, but kopete never 
connects... gaim works fine though...

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[Cooker] fwlogwatch old version in cooker

2003-01-31 Thread Oliver Lemke
Hi all!

fwlogwatch version 0.9 is out for quite a long time but cooker still
has 0.6.

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Re: [Cooker] Kopete not connetcting to MSN

2003-01-31 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 04:01, Simone Riccio wrote:
 Am I the only one experiencing trouble with kopete and msn? the msn 
 butterfly icon on the lower left keeps blinkin, but kopete never 
 connects... gaim works fine though...

I just verified that it works fine for me.


TTFN, 
Lonnie Borntreger






Re: [Cooker] Cooker community meeting

2003-01-31 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le Mercredi 29 Janvier 2003 21:18, Stefan van der Eijk a écrit :
 Slightly off-topic, but i think many people here are susceptible to join
 linux-expo in Paris next week, and fosdem in Bruxels the week thereafter.
 What about organising for both event some rendez-vous in order to meet
  each others IRL ?

 Throughout the week is difficult (impossible) for me. How about in the
 weekend?
Forget about Linux-Expo, but FOSDEM is taking place in the week-end: saturday 
8 and sunday 9 february. I'll glady have a beer with you if you're willing to 
join.

Anyway, it seems people are more interested discussing Cuban's secret plot to 
subvert the world through supersonic airplanes than to agree on a meeting 
point there...
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[Cooker] [Bug 1133] [XFree86-server] Alt Gr key for french keyboard

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 1133]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1133





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-01-31 09:18 ---
Same problem occurs also for me with the current cooker and finish keyboard.
Character @ (by pressing alt gr and 2 does not work for example)

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Alt Gr keys are not actived on a french key board even after using keyboarddrake

[root@localhost sbin]# perl keyboarddrake
TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus
TODO: ensure focus stuff
XKB extension not present on :0.0
Chargement du affectation clavier : fr-latin1   [  OK  ]
Chargement des touches compose: compose.latin.inc   [  OK  ]
La touche effacement (-) envoie : ^?   [  OK  ]
[root@localhost sbin]#

Below a copy of my XF86Config-4 file


# File generated by XFdrake.

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

Section Files
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
FontPath unix/:-1
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
#DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
#DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching)
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't
work
EndSection

Section Module
Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
Load v4l # Video for Linux
Load extmod
Load type1
Load freetype
Load glx # 3D layer
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard1
Driver Keyboard
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout fr
Option XkbDisable 
Option XkbCompat 
Option XkbOptions 
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse1
Driver mouse
Option Protocol IMPS/2
Option Device /dev/usbmouse
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier monitor1
VendorName Plug'n Play
ModelName Princeton Ultra 75/75B
HorizSync 30-70
VertRefresh 50-150

# Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
# 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494  563 -hsync
-vsync

# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
ModeLine 768x576 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630

# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
ModeLine 768x576 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier device1
VendorName nVidia Corporation
BoardName RIVA TNT2
Driver nvidia
Option DPMS
Option nvagp 3
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier screen1
Device device1
Monitor monitor1
DefaultColorDepth 24

Subsection Display
Depth 8
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubsection

Subsection Display
Depth 15
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubsection

Subsection Display
Depth 16
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubsection

Subsection Display
Depth 24
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier layout1
InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard
InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer
Screen screen1
EndSection




[Cooker] [Bug 1163] [drakxtools] New: setup not possible

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 1163]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1163

   Product: drakxtools
 Component: scannerdrake
   Summary: setup not possible
   Version: 9.1-0.19mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Language french Under KDE  Procedure = *launch scannerdrake into a terminal 
*you will see a message like: Epson corp.|Perfection 1650/1650 Photo n'est pas dans 
la base des scanners, configuration mauelle ? OUI NON If you click on OUI there 
won't be effects. Same thing by clicking on NON  Other hgandling: *launch 
MCC-hardware-Scanner *it will be the same message  sames buttons, same results.



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[Cooker] [Bug 1164] [Installation] New: Package install error for Xfree86 with a Via Eden motherboard

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 1164]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164

   Product: Installation
 Component: Installation
   Summary: Package install error for Xfree86 with a Via Eden
motherboard
   Version: 1.774
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi,

I have a Eden Via Mini-Itx motherboard running at 800Mhz. As with Mdk 9.0, some
packages can't be installed. I've try to install Mandrake 9.1 Beta2 and I've the
same problem.
During install, I've an error with Xfree-4.2.99.4-0.20030110.1mdk.i586. The
installer ask me to continue or not the install because this package can't be
installed.

On F3 virtual console: * bad package XFree86-4.2.99.4-0.20030110.1mdk.i586
unable to be installed

Thank you.



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[Cooker] [Bug 1108] [kernel] Boot stops when loading affectation clavier fr-latin 1

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 1108]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-01-30 13:40 ---
i will be glad if you can test with latest kernel release to cooker.


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With latest kernel 2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk-1-1mdk I can now boot (almost) normally. 
With pre2 and pre3 it *always* locked on my machine. 
So for now on, it's much better ! 
But sometimes, booting will still stop at message : 
chargement du affectation clavier fr-latin 1 :-( 
 
Thierry. 
 
PS: 
and chargement du affectation clavier fr-latin 1 is bad french :-D 



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chargement du affectation clavier fr-latin 1
or the next step.

The occurence of this problem is once over 5 boot approximately.
It is not systematic, and next boot will succeed after a hard reset.

This is new with kernel 2.4.21-1mdk

Bernard




[Cooker] [Bug 1165] [xsane] New: the programm can not find the scanner

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 1165]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1165

   Product: xsane
 Component: xsane
   Summary: the programm can not find the scanner
   Version: 0.90-1mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Under kde 
language french 
using scanner Epson Perfection 1650 
 
 
Procedure: 
= 
*install xsane 
*hot-Plug the scanner 
*you will see an icon after a few seconds like: XSane/dev/usb/scanner0 
*click on the icon, a message will appear : 
Aucun périphérique disponible 
 
Description: 
= 
*The model  the vendor is ok, i checked these in /proc/bus/usb/devices 
 
*I added in /etc/modules.conf : 
options scanner vendor=0x048 product=0x0104 
 
*i modified the file /etc/sane.d/epson.conf : 
# epson.conf 
# 
# here are some examples for how to configure the EPSON backend 
# 
# SCSI scanner: 
#scsi EPSON 
# 
# Parallel port scanner: 
#pio 0x278 
#pio 0x378 
#pio 0x3BC 
# 
# USB scanner - only enable this if you have an EPSON scanner. It could 
#   otherwise block your non-EPSON scanner from being 
#   recognized. 
#   Depending on your distribution, you may need either the 
#   first or the second entry. 
#usb /dev/usbscanner0 
usb /dev/usb/scanner0 
 
*i loaded the module :  
insmod scanner 
 
*Test:  
[root@dhcp123 a]# scanimage --list-devices 
No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, 
check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the 
sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation 
which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). 
 
[root@dhcp123 a]# sane-find-scanner 
  # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make sure that 
  # you have loaded a SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter. 
  # Also you need support for SCSI Generic (sg) in your operating system. 
  # If using Linux, try modprobe sg. 
 
found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x0110) at /dev/usb/scanner0 
found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0110 [EPSON Scanner]) at 
libusb:001:002 
  # A USB device was detected. This program can't be sure if it's really 
  # a scanner. If it is your scanner, it may or may not be supported by 
  # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. 
 
  # Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary ports can't be 
  # detected by this program. 
 
*After doing that,nothing happened.



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Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Oden Eriksson

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From: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?


 Oden Eriksson wrote:
  Hi.
 
  Here's my proposal. Why not ship distributable win32 applications like
  WinSCP, cygwin, etc?
 

 Cygwin is huge, but I reckon a Windows migration CD wouldn't be bad.
 Heck, I think they could have put mozilla on the MNF Cs, which would
 have reduced problems with some versions of IE not working.

Exactly.

 But, I think then we would need most of what is on the GNU-Win CD.

What's a GNU-Win CD ?

 I would want:
 -mingw+msys (cygwin without cygwin, ie native gcc on windows)
 -DevC++
 -pwdump (samba util for dumping Windows domain sam in smbpasswd format)
 -winmclient (client for mserver)
 -mozilla
 -OpenOffice.org
 -sanetwain
 -audacity
 -gimp
 -gkrellm
 -putty
 -wincvs
 -tortoise cvs
 -wxwindows
 -CUPS win32 postscript driver

Wow! I've been MS free for more than 2 years now..., thanks for the tip!
Also there's these:

- nessus win client
- some free vpn client (?)
- netadmin (mysql client http://www.it-netservice.de)
- securecrt (?)
- total commander + plugins

 In short we would fill one CD very quickly.

Yes, we would, but we would only ship good stuff that we know works and
recommend.

 Maybe Mandrakesoft should consider shipping something like GnuWin2 or
 whatever it's called in Pro-Suite?

That was what I meant, it could be on cd8 or on the dvd and only for the
commercial mandrake release. This would be great! I guess there are many
more applications like these for interactions between win32 and linux. It's
possible, mandrake is allready a cd distributor, so why not?







Re: [Cooker] Cooker community meeting

2003-01-31 Thread Oden Eriksson

- Original Message -
From: Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Cooker community meeting


Le Mercredi 29 Janvier 2003 21:18, Stefan van der Eijk a écrit :
 Slightly off-topic, but i think many people here are susceptible to join
 linux-expo in Paris next week, and fosdem in Bruxels the week thereafter.
 What about organising for both event some rendez-vous in order to meet
  each others IRL ?

 Throughout the week is difficult (impossible) for me. How about in the
 weekend?
Forget about Linux-Expo, but FOSDEM is taking place in the week-end:
saturday
8 and sunday 9 february. I'll glady have a beer with you if you're willing
to
join.

Anyway, it seems people are more interested discussing Cuban's secret plot
to
subvert the world through supersonic airplanes than to agree on a meeting
point there...


(damn outlook...)

I would be able to come if you all promise only speak english :)







Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Oden Eriksson wrote:
Cygwin is huge, but I reckon a Windows migration CD wouldn't be bad.
Heck, I think they could have put mozilla on the MNF Cs, which would
have reduced problems with some versions of IE not working.
 
 
 Exactly.
 
 
But, I think then we would need most of what is on the GNU-Win CD.
 
 
 What's a GNU-Win CD ?

http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/

 
 
I would want:
-mingw+msys (cygwin without cygwin, ie native gcc on windows)
-DevC++
-pwdump (samba util for dumping Windows domain sam in smbpasswd format)
-winmclient (client for mserver)
-mozilla
-OpenOffice.org
-sanetwain
-audacity
-gimp
-gkrellm
-putty
-wincvs
-tortoise cvs
-wxwindows
-CUPS win32 postscript driver
 
 
 Wow! I've been MS free for more than 2 years now..., thanks for the tip!
 Also there's these:

My consulting almost always involves integrating linux into windows
networks .. so I need a lot of these. The list I gave is what I have on
my dual-boot win2k/Mandrake 9.0 thinkpad (except I didn't list grass,
which I have on windows too).

 
 - nessus win client
 - some free vpn client (?)

It is not better to make Mandrake VPN software work out-the-box with the
native windows client?

 - netadmin (mysql client http://www.it-netservice.de)
 - securecrt (?)
 - total commander + plugins
 

A lot more are here:

http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/apps/en/index.html

I haven't been able to get one of these ISOs yet, so I haven't started
suggesting software to them yet ...

 
In short we would fill one CD very quickly.
 
 
 Yes, we would, but we would only ship good stuff that we know works and
 recommend.
 

Take a look at that list.

And they haven't even got apache, php, bacula-windows client etc on it yet.

 
Maybe Mandrakesoft should consider shipping something like GnuWin2 or
whatever it's called in Pro-Suite?
 
 
 That was what I meant, it could be on cd8 or on the dvd and only for the
 commercial mandrake release. This would be great! I guess there are many
 more applications like these for interactions between win32 and linux. It's
 possible, mandrake is allready a cd distributor, so why not?
 

Maybe we should ask Deno if his new on-the-fly CD-writing service for
the Club will sell something like this ... Deno?

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Buchan Milne wrote:

 And they haven't even got apache, php, bacula-windows client etc on it yet.

Sorry, they do have apache, php and mysql, but they should add the
bacule client (I still need to try it though).

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] JDM has changed (IMNSHO) for the worst...

2003-01-31 Thread John Allen
On Friday 31 January 2003 04:06, Gary Greene wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1


 Can some one tell me why it was deemed that the kdm login dialog needed to
 change to a add-on that isn't in the stock KDE distribution? It looks kinda
 clumsy from a UI design standpoint. That, and I personally LIKED the stock
 3.1 login UI.


Yeah give us the standard one back, it looks, and functions way better.

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[Cooker] 'Check Filesystem' button in Diskdrake

2003-01-31 Thread SpamKill

Sure would be nice to have a 'Check Filesystem' button
in Expert Mode in Diskdrake.

--
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Mdk Club Member
{{{







Re: [Cooker] everybuddy and ayttm

2003-01-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 04:55, Ben Reser wrote:

 Part of the issue too is that IM clients under Linux have had a history
 of being broken.  If Protocol A is broken on one client it may work on
 another better.  Support for various protocols and their functionality
 differs greatly between programs.  

This is an important point. Protocols have a tendency of changing to try
and lock third-party clients out every now and again, and as Ben says,
we have more redundancy against this with lots of clients.

 Ultimately, we're in a situation where none of these apps are really
 best of breed.  They all have their trade offs, so I would error on the
 side of being overly inclusive in this situation than not.

I don't know about gaim not being designed for multiple protocols. It
can be a bit of a pain to set them all up originally, loading the
appropriate plugins then adding accounts, but once you've done that you
can set them all to autologin. I have all my conversations on all
networks set to appear in one tabbed window, I hardly notice what
network other people are on any more.
-- 
adamw





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk-1-1mdk

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Wont work on my IBM PCS325 Server with two scsi disks in linux-raid 1,
 connected to an AIC7880 controller, and 2 IDE disks connected to a HPT370. 
 When it's booting, it gets kernel panic and reboots.Pressing pause at the 
 point it's about to reboot freezes it, and the following is shown on the 
 screen:

by any chance, booting with noacpi or acpi=off does it work ?





Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Oden Eriksson

- Original Message -
From: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?


 Oden Eriksson wrote:
 Cygwin is huge, but I reckon a Windows migration CD wouldn't be bad.
 Heck, I think they could have put mozilla on the MNF Cs, which would
 have reduced problems with some versions of IE not working.
 
 
  Exactly.
 
 
 But, I think then we would need most of what is on the GNU-Win CD.
 
 
  What's a GNU-Win CD ?

 http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/

Aha! Cool!

 
 
 I would want:
 -mingw+msys (cygwin without cygwin, ie native gcc on windows)
 -DevC++
 -pwdump (samba util for dumping Windows domain sam in smbpasswd format)
 -winmclient (client for mserver)
 -mozilla
 -OpenOffice.org
 -sanetwain
 -audacity
 -gimp
 -gkrellm
 -putty
 -wincvs
 -tortoise cvs
 -wxwindows
 -CUPS win32 postscript driver
 
 
  Wow! I've been MS free for more than 2 years now..., thanks for the tip!
  Also there's these:

 My consulting almost always involves integrating linux into windows
 networks .. so I need a lot of these. The list I gave is what I have on
 my dual-boot win2k/Mandrake 9.0 thinkpad (except I didn't list grass,
 which I have on windows too).

Nice, very nice!

I wonder if you (or anyone) has any experience in the windows migration kit
by Jaques Gelinas?

 
  - nessus win client
  - some free vpn client (?)

 It is not better to make Mandrake VPN software work out-the-box with the
 native windows client?

It's easy for win2k+? I've not come that far with this yet.


  - netadmin (mysql client http://www.it-netservice.de)
  - securecrt (?)
  - total commander + plugins
 

 A lot more are here:

 http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/apps/en/index.html

 I haven't been able to get one of these ISOs yet, so I haven't started
 suggesting software to them yet ...

Only isos? Well..., then I have to dl it using a bigger pipe and mount it...

 
 In short we would fill one CD very quickly.
 
 
  Yes, we would, but we would only ship good stuff that we know works and
  recommend.
 

 Take a look at that list.

 And they haven't even got apache, php, bacula-windows client etc on it
yet.

It's amazing! and with latest cygwin you can even run exim ;)

 
 Maybe Mandrakesoft should consider shipping something like GnuWin2 or
 whatever it's called in Pro-Suite?
 
 
  That was what I meant, it could be on cd8 or on the dvd and only for the
  commercial mandrake release. This would be great! I guess there are many
  more applications like these for interactions between win32 and linux.
It's
  possible, mandrake is allready a cd distributor, so why not?
 

 Maybe we should ask Deno if his new on-the-fly CD-writing service for
 the Club will sell something like this ... Deno?

Cool.






Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Here's my proposal. Why not ship distributable win32 applications like 
 WinSCP, cygwin, etc?

i don't belive that's our job to develop for others OS than the one we
create :-).





Re: [Cooker] Jmax

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Austin Acton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hmm, just tried to compile jmax with gcj, and it fails cuz it needs
 javax.swing classes.

 Anyone know about GNU Classpath?  Is it in any sort of condition where
 we could start using it?  Is there any other GPL version of javax.swing?

i believe there is a wrapper between swing and gtk+ for gcj, but no
idea how work'able is it. Our French/Polynesian (gb) should knows that for
sure.





Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice.org dictionaries

2003-01-31 Thread Reinout van Schouwen
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:

  It used to be both English and Czech (cs).

 You have to manually enable it in the Linguistic tab.

Wouldn't it be possible (in RPM post processing or something) to
automatically enable every installed dictionary? That would save a lot of
users lots of frustration. I know, from experience, that even pretty
advanced users have difficulty finding the right buttons to click to
enable their dictionaries.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Merging preempt with current cooker is not really a problem. With the new 
 XFS it is likely that it will work fine. The lock-breaking is a different 
 issue (hasn't been updated since 2.4.18, and there are a few problems with 
 that patch), perhaps I take a look at the real low-latency stuff, but no 
 idea how well that merges with mdk kernel.

I don't know if you are talking about the a.morton stuff but i have
made a patch *completly unsupported by me or by others mdksoft people*
for the latest cooker kernel, you can grab it from :

http://www.chmouel.com/misc/kernel/low_latency.patch

obvisouly you got to backout the mini_low_latency patch before
applying this one on cooker kernel.

Cheers.





Re: [Cooker] What happened to the program more?

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Salane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 After seeing the program dog( as in a more powerful form of cat) in contribs I 
 was wondering, what happened to the program more?

alias more=less :)





Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Michael Scherer
Le Vendredi 31 Janvier 2003 12:57, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
 Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Here's my proposal. Why not ship distributable win32 applications like
  WinSCP, cygwin, etc?

 i don't belive that's our job to develop for others OS than the one we
 create :-).

No, the fact is some others OS need your help, since it would be too easy 
without it :)

Btw, i think you should add a win32 version of frozen-bubble.








Re: [Cooker] everybuddy and ayttm

2003-01-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 02:48, David Walser wrote:
 Is there any reason we need everybuddy or ayttm in
 main when we have Gaim and Kopete?

Not to mention seven thousand different ICQ clients. But yes there is:
some people use it. :)
-- 
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Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice.org dictionaries

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
 
 
It used to be both English and Czech (cs).

You have to manually enable it in the Linguistic tab.
 
 
 Wouldn't it be possible (in RPM post processing or something) to
 automatically enable every installed dictionary? That would save a lot of
 users lots of frustration. I know, from experience, that even pretty
 advanced users have difficulty finding the right buttons to click to
 enable their dictionaries.
 

I am sure Gwenole will take patches for this ;-)

It needs to be addressed by OpenOffice.org, since it affects all
versions (win32, solaris etc).

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Oden Eriksson wrote:

 
 Aha! Cool!
 
 

My consulting almost always involves integrating linux into windows
networks .. so I need a lot of these. The list I gave is what I have on
my dual-boot win2k/Mandrake 9.0 thinkpad (except I didn't list grass,
which I have on windows too).
 
 
 Nice, very nice!
 
 I wonder if you (or anyone) has any experience in the windows migration kit
 by Jaques Gelinas?
 

Not really, but I assume it's similar to the smbldap-migrate.pl perl
script we have in samba, and the stuff Michael Brown did.

The thing is that samba3 has something which can do the majority of this
without having to run anything on a windows box.

# urpmi samba3-common
# net3 rpc vampire

(it's supposed to be 'net rpc vampire', and will be once samba-3.0.0 is out)

If I were to try this, I would setup one new samba box, and then sync
data across with rysnc, and extract and set ACLs from the windows box,
and then switch it, using a 'netbios aliases' to have the old name point
to the new samba box. Format the original win2k server, and use it for
the next one. But then again I normally don't make 200 shares on a
windows box like some people do (normally you shouldn't need more than
about 20 IMHO).

However, I don't really have enough infrastructure to play with this at
present, we only have one windows server here, and that's a production
MSSQL (don't ask ...).

I'm more interested in getting Mandrake 9.0 to work out-the-box using
the network profiles as home dir ... but that's a lot more work since in
win2k that info is stored in AD :-(. But IMHO the winbind stuff 9.0 had
isn't bad.

P.S. Does anyone know if the 'expert' authentication options in
installation will be available in beta3? I probably need to test it and
see if it still works with a newer samba.

FYI:
http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/samba/Integrating%20Linux%20into%20Windows%20Networks.tar.gz

 
- nessus win client
- some free vpn client (?)

It is not better to make Mandrake VPN software work out-the-box with the
native windows client?
 
 It's easy for win2k+? I've not come that far with this yet.
 
 

It's supposed to be, Florin may know more. AFAICR, it worked with pptp
and some patches to ppp or pptp (which are applied) or so (don't ask me
about VPNs though ...).

http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/apps/en/index.html

I haven't been able to get one of these ISOs yet, so I haven't started
suggesting software to them yet ...
 
 Only isos? Well..., then I have to dl it using a bigger pipe and mount it...
 
 
And they haven't even got apache, php, bacula-windows client etc on it
 
 yet.
 
 It's amazing! and with latest cygwin you can even run exim ;)

You could also run postgresql on cygwin, but IIRC they have done some
effort to run it natively on win32. But apparently rsync also works well
on cygwin.

possible, mandrake is allready a cd distributor, so why not?


BTW, I would spend $5-$10 on such a CD if it were kept up-to-date.

Maybe we should ask Deno if his new on-the-fly CD-writing service for
the Club will sell something like this ... Deno?
 
 Cool.

Deno seems very busy ... maybe he's got something up his sleeves, and
hopefully it has to do with this ...

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Michael Scherer wrote:
 Le Vendredi 31 Janvier 2003 12:57, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
 
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Here's my proposal. Why not ship distributable win32 applications like
WinSCP, cygwin, etc?

i don't belive that's our job to develop for others OS than the one we
create :-).
 
 No, the fact is some others OS need your help, since it would be too easy 
 without it :)

Actually, more interesting is that the producer of the other OS does
such a bad job, that you can generate a lot of income, specifically if
the software you supply is targeted at making migration away from their
software to your platform easier.

 
 Btw, i think you should add a win32 version of frozen-bubble.
 

GNUwin lists it in their plans for the next release.

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[Cooker] Re: openslp - fails to start due to miscompiled log file location

2003-01-31 Thread Yves Duret
Buchan Milne wrote:

[bgmilne:~]# service slpd start
Starting slpd: Multicast Route EnabledCould not open logfile
/var/lib/log/slpd.log
A FATAL Error has occured:

I did ln -s /var/log /var/lib and restarted and it worked, so please
just rebuild with logs not in /var/lib/log


take me sometimes to figure why..
seems our configure macros not very compliant.
[yves@klama openslp-1.0.10]$ rpm --eval %configure | grep localstatedir
--localstatedir=/var/lib \
[yves@klama openslp-1.0.10]$ rpm --eval %configure2_5x | grep localstatedir
--localstatedir=/var/lib \

and with anykind of configure generated files (and according to doc too)
[yves@klama openslp-1.0.10]$ ./configure --help | grep localstatedir
  --localstatedir=DIR modifiable single-machine data in DIR 
[PREFIX/var]

is there any reason of localestatdir to /var/lib instead of /var ?
should i upload a openslp rpm with a workaround for configure or should 
the configure macro fixed ?




Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Michael Scherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 No, the fact is some others OS need your help, since it would be too easy 
 without it :)

ask MS to hire us 8-p





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk-1-1mdk

2003-01-31 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|
|  Wont work on my IBM PCS325 Server with two scsi disks in linux-raid 1,
|  connected to an AIC7880 controller, and 2 IDE disks connected to a
HPT370.
|  When it's booting, it gets kernel panic and reboots.Pressing pause at
the
|  point it's about to reboot freezes it, and the following is shown on
the
|  screen:
|
| by any chance, booting with noacpi or acpi=off does it work ?
|

Nope.
Booting normally gives automatic reboot.
Booting with 'noacpi' I have to C-A-D it myself to get it to reboot.
booting with 'acpi=off' results in a hard lock, only thing that works is
the powerswitch.

Remowing the HighPoint controller from the system does not make a
difference.
This leads me to belive that the error comes either from the md startup, or
from
the aic7880...

pre3.1, pre3.2 and pre4.1 does not work on this system, only pre2.1 and
older...


I noticed in the: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.pre3.1mdk-1-1mdk changelog:
 * aic7xxx integrated upstream.
This does not show up in the kernel.org changelog,
and since it seems to be the only change from pre2.1 to newer ones
that could directly impact my system it would be nice to know what's
changed...

I'll try to build a new kernel from the kernel.org sources tonight,
 and see the problem exists there too..

Thomas









[Cooker] kdmrc problem: un

2003-01-31 Thread Jim Sproull

I'm running the latest cooker, but have noticed this problem for a
while.  Whenever I try starting kdm (via /etc/init.d/dm start or by
running it directly) I get this error message:

Unrecognized section name [Desktop0] at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:1


My kdmrc file is dated Jan 31, so it seems to have been updated along
with my cooker update this morning.  Which leads me to believe the
problem is elsewhere.  Any ideas?


Jim

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Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread J.P. Pasnak
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On January 31, 2003 03:16 am, Oden Eriksson wrote:
 Hi.

 Here's my proposal. Why not ship distributable win32 applications
 like WinSCP, cygwin, etc?

You could also take a look at TheOpenCD - http://www.theopencd.org - I 
don't believe it has WinSCP, but Filezilla will do sftp transfers.

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Re: [Cooker] Kopete not connetcting to MSN

2003-01-31 Thread Pascal Cavy
Le Vendredi 31 Janvier 2003 11:31, Lonnie Borntreger a écrit :
 On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 04:01, Simone Riccio wrote:
  Am I the only one experiencing trouble with kopete and msn? the msn
  butterfly icon on the lower left keeps blinkin, but kopete never
  connects... gaim works fine though...

 I just verified that it works fine for me.


 TTFN,
 Lonnie Borntreger

It depends on your config file content.
See bug #693 https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693 

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(gcc version 3.2.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.1-4mdk))
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[Cooker] rebuilding one module

2003-01-31 Thread aaron

Hi.

Hypothetically if I'm crazy enough to try backporting some of the Treo
support patches from the 2.5 kernel to the Cooker kernel... will I
need to rebuild the whole kernel or is there an easy way to just
rebuild a couple modules (maybe just usbserial), even if I haven't
built my own kernel recently?

(Of course if someone else has already got the Treo 90 working over
USB with Mandrake 9 I'd love to hear about that as well. The patches
themselves are short enough.)

Thanks,
-- 
Aaron Peromsik [EMAIL PROTECTED] [For thinner oatmeal, add more water.] 




Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread danny
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:

 I don't know if you are talking about the a.morton stuff but i have
 made a patch *completly unsupported by me or by others mdksoft people*
 for the latest cooker kernel, you can grab it from :
 
 http://www.chmouel.com/misc/kernel/low_latency.patch

yes I was. Thanks!
I hate these unsupported disclaimers btw.

 
 obvisouly you got to backout the mini_low_latency patch before
 applying this one on cooker kernel.
;)


Danny






Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk-1-1mdk

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I noticed in the: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.pre3.1mdk-1-1mdk changelog:
  * aic7xxx integrated upstream.
 This does not show up in the kernel.org changelog,
 and since it seems to be the only change from pre2.1 to newer ones
 that could directly impact my system it would be nice to know what's
 changed...

stuff from juan, please Juan ?

 I'll try to build a new kernel from the kernel.org sources tonight,
  and see the problem exists there too..

great, cheers.





Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 http://www.chmouel.com/misc/kernel/low_latency.patch
 yes I was. Thanks!
 I hate these unsupported disclaimers btw.

you don't know how hard is it to live when you have done a decision to
support something, it's forever and ever and you die in your stupidity
because you are a girl/man of honnor. 

Better tell to everyone that you are weak at the start, it's much smarter :-)





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk-1-1mdk

2003-01-31 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| From: Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| |
| |  Wont work on my IBM PCS325 Server with two scsi disks in linux-raid
1,
| |  connected to an AIC7880 controller, and 2 IDE disks connected to a
| HPT370.
| |  When it's booting, it gets kernel panic and reboots.Pressing pause at
| the
| |  point it's about to reboot freezes it, and the following is shown on
| the
| |  screen:
| |
| | by any chance, booting with noacpi or acpi=off does it work ?
| |
|
| Nope.
| Booting normally gives automatic reboot.
| Booting with 'noacpi' I have to C-A-D it myself to get it to reboot.
| booting with 'acpi=off' results in a hard lock, only thing that works is
| the powerswitch.
|
| Remowing the HighPoint controller from the system does not make a
| difference.
| This leads me to belive that the error comes either from the md startup,
or
| from the aic7880...
|
| pre3.1, pre3.2 and pre4.1 does not work on this system, only pre2.1 and
| older...
|
|
| I noticed in the: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.pre3.1mdk-1-1mdk changelog:
|  * aic7xxx integrated upstream.
| This does not show up in the kernel.org changelog,
| and since it seems to be the only change from pre2.1 to newer ones
| that could directly impact my system it would be nice to know what's
| changed...
|
| I'll try to build a new kernel from the kernel.org sources tonight,
|  and see the problem exists there too..
|

Ouch...
I forgot to tell you that it's the secured kernel 2.4.21preX-1mdksecure
that I'm running on this box..., sorry...

I just installed the normal  2.4.21pre4-1mdk kernel,
and it works as it should...

So... What next...

Thomas






Re: [Cooker] What happened to the program more?

2003-01-31 Thread Ron Stodden
Salane wrote:

After seeing the program dog( as in a more powerful form of cat) in contribs I 
was wondering, what happened to the program more?

There is an oddity between more and less in MDK 9.0:

[ron@small ron]$ which more
/bin/more
[ron@small ron]$ ls -l /bin/more
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root26328 Sep  3 23:08 /bin/more*
[ron@small ron]$ which less
/usr/bin/less
[ron@small ron]$ ls -l /usr/bin/less
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  118 Aug 14 13:28 /usr/bin/less*
[ron@small ron]$ ldd /bin/more
libtermcap.so.2 = /lib/libtermcap.so.2 (0x40039000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x4003d000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
[ron@small ron]$ ldd /usr/bin/less
not a dynamic executable
[ron@small ron]$kwrite /usr/bin/less
#!/bin/sh

#export LESSCHARSET=${LESSCHARSET:-utf-8}
export LESSCHARSET=${LESSCHARSET:-koi8-r}
exec less.bin $@

[ron@small ron]$ ls -l /usr/bin/less.bin
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   115480 Aug 14 13:28 /usr/bin/less.bin*
[ron@small ron]$

1. Different directory placement.
2. less has much more functionality, all done in a magical only118 
bytes, so yes, it is less! g.
3. Aha! - less.bin is bigger than more, in fact you get 4.4 times more g.

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Re: [Cooker] rebuilding one module

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hypothetically if I'm crazy enough to try backporting some of the Treo
 support patches from the 2.5 kernel to the Cooker kernel... will I
 need to rebuild the whole kernel or is there an easy way to just
 rebuild a couple modules (maybe just usbserial), even if I haven't
 built my own kernel recently?

backporting is a state of art believe me, i maybe try to do it if you
are agree to be bothered for the testing.

but not for today maybe next week i got others kernel stuff to do for
a while now :-(

 (Of course if someone else has already got the Treo 90 working over
 USB with Mandrake 9 I'd love to hear about that as well. The patches
 themselves are short enough.)





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk-1-1mdk

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ouch...
 I forgot to tell you that it's the secured kernel 2.4.21preX-1mdksecure
 that I'm running on this box..., sorry...
 I just installed the normal  2.4.21pre4-1mdk kernel,
 and it works as it should...
 So... What next...

that help a lot :-(. Can you test with the 2.4.21-0.pre3.2mdk i wonder
if i didn't screwd up things with xfs 





Re: [Cooker] What happened to the program more?

2003-01-31 Thread Marcel Pol
On Sat, 01 Feb 2003 01:19:34 +1100
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Salane wrote:
  After seeing the program dog( as in a more powerful form of cat) in
  contribs I was wondering, what happened to the program more?
 
 There is an oddity between more and less in MDK 9.0:

What is the oddity here?
Without /usr you have more, but with /usr you can have less.
Uhm, yes. That's odd :-)


--
Marcel Pol




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk-1-1mdk

2003-01-31 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|
|  Ouch...
|  I forgot to tell you that it's the secured kernel 2.4.21preX-1mdksecure
|  that I'm running on this box..., sorry...
|  I just installed the normal  2.4.21pre4-1mdk kernel,
|  and it works as it should...
|  So... What next...
|
| that help a lot :-(. Can you test with the 2.4.21-0.pre3.2mdk i wonder
| if i didn't screwd up things with xfs
|

Huh...
if the standard pre4 mdk works the xfs didn't break the system...
BTW where can I get pre3.2 since it's not on my mirror anymore...

but... to repeat myself... here is the kernel that I have tried:

kernel-2.4.21.pre2.1mdk-1-1mdkWORKS
kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk-1-1mdkWORKS

kernel-secure-2.4.21.pre2.1mdk-1-1mdkWORKS
kernel-secure-2.4.21.0.pre3.1mdk-1-1mdkFAILS
kernel-secure-2.4.21.0.pre3.2mdk-1-1mdkFAILS
kernel-secure-2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk-1-1mdkFAILS


since the problem seems to be security related... since
it only shows up in the secured kernel, i noticed this line
in the pre3.1 changelog
  * grsecurity 1.9.8.

correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't there been problems
before with the grsecurity patches / code...

Maybe I should rebuild the 'mdksecure' kernel with those
grsecurity options according to the standard 'mdk' kernel,
and se if it helps...
Any thoughts...

Thomas






[Cooker] kdm ( my 2 cents )

2003-01-31 Thread Jason Straight
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Can we at least have the old kdm as /usr/bin/kdm.doesnt_suck or something.

What was the point of replacing something that worked with something that has 
less features? I no longer have focus last user, no clock, no user selection, 
and it's automatic action when I hit enter was to reboot my computer.

What was the point of this really? To be more like redhat?

Please at least put the real kdm back as an alternate so I can actually 
control my login manager with kcontrol.

Truely lame.


It may seem small, but sensless stuff like this that takes away from the total 
experience is what could pursuade me to try another distro. This is nothing 
less than annoying.


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[Cooker] hdparm

2003-01-31 Thread Oden Eriksson
Hi list.

I wonder if someone has a cure for this:

[root@oden /]# hdparm -d1 /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 setting using_dma to 1 (on)
 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
 using_dma=  0 (off)

Operation not permitted, WTF???


[root@oden /]# hdparm -I /dev/hda

/dev/hda:

ATA device, with non-removable media
Model Number:   SAMSUNG SV0813H
Serial Number:  0596J1FTB04029
Firmware Revision:  RJ100-15
Standards:
Used: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 1
Supported: 6 5 4 3
Configuration:
Logical max current
cylinders   16383   4047
heads   16  16
sectors/track   63  255
--
CHS current addressable sectors:   16511760
LBAuser addressable sectors:  156368016
device size with M = 1024*1024:   76351 MBytes
device size with M = 1000*1000:   80060 MBytes (80 GB)
Capabilities:
LBA, IORDY(cannot be disabled)
bytes avail on r/w long: 4  Queue depth: 1
Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, no device specific minimum
R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16  Current = 16
Recommended acoustic management value: 128, current value: 128
DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
 Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
 Cycle time: no flow control=120ns  IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
Enabled Supported:
   *READ BUFFER cmd
   *WRITE BUFFER cmd
   *Host Protected Area feature set
   *Look-ahead
   *Write cache
   *Power Management feature set
Security Mode feature set
SMART feature set
   *Mandatory FLUSH CACHE command
   *Automatic Acoustic Management feature set
SET MAX security extension
   *DOWNLOAD MICROCODE cmd
   *SMART self-test
   *SMART error logging
Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
not enabled
not locked
frozen
not expired: security count
supported: enhanced erase
102min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 102min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE 
UNIT.
HW reset results:
CBLID- above Vih
Device num = 0 determined by the jumper
Checksum: correct


It's a brand new Samsung disk and a MSI 845 GE Max motherboard. It's making me 
crazy, the slightest disk i/o eats all interrups...

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.21.0.pre4.1mdk-1-1mdk

2003-01-31 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 since the problem seems to be security related... since
 it only shows up in the secured kernel, i noticed this line
 in the pre3.1 changelog
   * grsecurity 1.9.8.
 correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't there been problems
 before with the grsecurity patches / code...

juan, sound like the mergin of latest grsecurity was screwd up :p

 Maybe I should rebuild the 'mdksecure' kernel with those
 grsecurity options according to the standard 'mdk' kernel,
 and se if it helps...


yep please.





Re: [Cooker] kdm ( my 2 cents )

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Jason Straight wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Can we at least have the old kdm as /usr/bin/kdm.doesnt_suck or something.
 
 What was the point of replacing something that worked with something that has 
 less features? I no longer have focus last user, no clock, no user selection, 
 and it's automatic action when I hit enter was to reboot my computer.

Some more issues:
-Password field doesn't select the existing password when you use TAB if
you entered the wrong password the first time (kdm did).
-Valid is a really bad word to use in place of OK (win2k) or Go!
(normal kdm).

But the new lilo splash does look quite good.

 
 What was the point of this really? To be more like redhat?

If anything, work on kdm should be to make it compatible with gdm and
have the same features, so we can launch a new kdm greeter from within a
running wm (like gdm can).

Please rather add features to the existing kdm than stuff it up.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread Austin Acton
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 03:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Merging preempt with current cooker is not really a problem. With the new 
 XFS it is likely that it will work fine. The lock-breaking is a different 
 issue (hasn't been updated since 2.4.18, and there are a few problems with 
 that patch), perhaps I take a look at the real low-latency stuff, but no 
 idea how well that merges with mdk kernel.

Cool.  I think gentoo is the only distro shipping a low latency kernel
as the default.

Also I've been trying to figure out how to get jack to work with FIFO. 
Apparently it requires a patched kernel?!?  I'm no expert on this kind
of low-level stuff.  Danny, do you understand the implications of this
message I got on the linux-audio list?  I wish we could get jack to work
as it is intended to...i.e. users (not root) get audio-on-demand...

[SNIP]

  jackstart - requires the kernel be patched for 'capabilities',
whatever that
  is.
 
 I don't seem to have that command.

It is included in the jack tarball (but I would use current CVS). 

 I do have jackd though.  If I try to run jackd -R I get permission
 errors.  I assume that is the problem?

Yep. 

 Is it not possible to run jackd as root, but run your application as a
 user?

As Mark pointed out in a separate email, it is not possible. 

The capabilities patch is a 2 line kernel patch that starts init with
a full set of capabilities (including CAP_SETPCAP, the ability to set
capabilities on other processes). Capabilities are permissions to use
certain calls or features of the kernel normally restricted to root
only. For example, one of those capabilities is the ability of a 
process to change its own scheduler to SCHED_FIFO(*), or change other
processes scheduler to SCHED_FIFO, something we need for reliable low
latency sound i/o. An application of this is the jackstart program.
Jackstart(**) is a small program that has to run suid root that grants
jackd the capabilities that it needs to both go SCHED_FIFO itself and
grant its clients the capabilities to go SCHED_FIFO (and a couple of
other needed capabilities as well). 

Why is this patch not widely included in production kernels? There's a
catch :-) The catch is that it becomes possible for a user level program
to access the SCHED_FIFO scheduler ring (_necessary_ for reliable low
latency sound). Which means a user program can lock the machine (by
entering into an infinite loop while executing with SCHED_FIFO) and
create a DOS vulnerability. 

Obviously the alternatives are even worse (unreliable low latency
operation, or running everything as root)

-- Fernando

See also:
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/security/linux-privs/kernel-2.4/capfaq-0.2.txt

(*) see man sched_setscheduler for what this all means
(**) I wrote jackstart, it is based on code and concepts found in
sucap.c, written by Finn Arne Gangstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
givertcap.c, written by Tommi Ilmonen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Givertcap
is also included in the standard distribution of muse. 

[SNIP]

Austin
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   Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
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Re: [Cooker] hdparm

2003-01-31 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[root@oden /]# hdparm -d1 /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
setting using_dma to 1 (on)
 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
 using_dma=  0 (off)

Operation not permitted, WTF???

AFAIK it's not hdparm's problem, but ...

It's a brand new Samsung disk and a MSI 845 GE Max motherboard. It's
making me
crazy, the slightest disk i/o eats all interrups...

this one ...
there are problems with the intel 845 chipset and the kernel,
that has not been corrected yet...

Thomas






Re: [Cooker] patching qt to support foreign cursors

2003-01-31 Thread Bret Baptist
On Friday 31 January 2003 3:07 am, Daniele Pighin wrote:
 Hallo guys,
 Qt tends to replace many user-defined cursors with its own internal
 cursors. This is annoying, as the only cursor theme that would look
 complete and coherent is qt own theme, which is not that eyecandy.
 Having qt handling cursors properly is quite easy: qt source must be
 patched with this diff I'm attaching, and configured with the -xcursor
 option. Why shouldn't qt be repackaged to allow this improvement?

 Credits for this message and its contents go to uga and its contribute to
 kdelook.org http://www.kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=4805

 Thanks

 Daniele

Yes, yes I second this!  I was quite annoyed when I started to try new cursors 
and they didn't look right in KDE.

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Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread Austin Acton
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 04:21, Buchan Milne wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Why do I always have to do the boring things ;-P

Because you got the skills brotha.

 You can do the boring things, plus the rest if you want ... but I think
 I would be wasting my time looking at the kernel, don't know about
 Austin ...

LOL!  I tried to fix our broken video4linux headers a while ago and got
lost beyond belief.  (I realize that's not called kernel anymore, but it
was then.)

Austin
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 Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant
   Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
 MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com)
 homepage: www.groundstate.ca





Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Oden Eriksson
fredagen den 31 januari 2003 14.09 skrev Buchan Milne:
 Michael Scherer wrote:
  Le Vendredi 31 Janvier 2003 12:57, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
 Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Here's my proposal. Why not ship distributable win32 applications like
 WinSCP, cygwin, etc?
 
 i don't belive that's our job to develop for others OS than the one we
 create :-).
 
  No, the fact is some others OS need your help, since it would be too easy
  without it :)

 Actually, more interesting is that the producer of the other OS does
 such a bad job, that you can generate a lot of income, specifically if
 the software you supply is targeted at making migration away from their
 software to your platform easier.

This is also exactly what I meant... Personally I don't give a shit about MS, 
but it's there, and I merely presented the idea that Buchan so thanksfully 
put into words. I belive MS ship migration tools for moving away from Novell?

If we had such a boxed collection the presumtive ms2mandrake consultant could 
easily do his migration without having to search the whole internet for the 
tools. Maybe there's also some good HOWTOs we could put in there?

Well, chears.
-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com




[Cooker] scannerDrake -- AGFA scanners ?

2003-01-31 Thread Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN)
Agfa scanners (for ex.e40) are fully supported by SANE, but reported 
unsupported by scannerdrake.

What must be done ?


Below is the link of snapscan backend :
http://snapscan.sourceforge.net/



Re: [Cooker] hdparm

2003-01-31 Thread Oden Eriksson
fredagen den 31 januari 2003 16.02 skrev Thomas Backlund:
 From: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It's a brand new Samsung disk and a MSI 845 GE Max motherboard. It's

 making me

 crazy, the slightest disk i/o eats all interrups...

 this one ...
 there are problems with the intel 845 chipset and the kernel,
 that has not been corrected yet...

Ohh no! I don't have time with this, I think I return this motherboard next 
week, or maybe right away..., it's a 2 minutes walk...

Thank you Thomas for the quick answer!

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com




Re: [Cooker] hdparm

2003-01-31 Thread Jesper Noer Pedersen
On Fredag den 31. januar 2003 16:02, Thomas Backlund wrote:
 From: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [root@oden /]# hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
 
 /dev/hda:
 setting using_dma to 1 (on)
  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
  using_dma=  0 (off)
 
 Operation not permitted, WTF???

 AFAIK it's not hdparm's problem, but ...

 It's a brand new Samsung disk and a MSI 845 GE Max motherboard. It's

 making me

 crazy, the slightest disk i/o eats all interrups...

 this one ...
 there are problems with the intel 845 chipset and the kernel,
 that has not been corrected yet...


I had the same problem with an Asus motherboard with the intel 845GE chipset 
and an update to kernel 2.4.20 fixed the problem.

/Jesper





[Cooker] [Bug 1166] [drakconf] New: Drakconf doesn't refresh its window

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 1166]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1166

   Product: drakconf
 Component: drakconf
   Summary: Drakconf doesn't refresh its window
   Version: 9.1-0.13mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello. 
I noticed that Drakconf does not refresh its window (the right part of it) when
another menuitem (in the left side) is selected with the mouse. At this very
moment, we have to close it and reopen. This may increases when then screen is
in 800x600 mode and the graphic card is weird.

Best regards.
  
   Thierry Myotte



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[Cooker] [Bug 750] [kopete] kopete cannot connect to icq or msn protocols

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 750]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-01-31 13:51 ---
I'm having this problem also (and it's realy anoying !).  
Kmerlin stopped working a month ago or so, don't know if that was due to a glibc 
upgrade. And since then couldn't get on msn via those programs.  
However centericq connects fine to msn. 
 
Running KDE 3.1, Mandrake 9.0 based system with all packages upgraded via urpmi. 
 
kopete-0.5-3mdk 
libkopete1-0.5-3md 
glibc-2.3.1-7mdk 
 
Dominique De Munck 



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since latest glibc update  kopete cannot connect to ICQ or MSN protocols 
 
rebuilding the rpm does not fix the problem. 
 
AOL protocol works fine (it does not use a host name in the config) 
 
In Kopete .kde/share/config/kopeterc : 
changing the host=login.icq.com to its equivalent ip adress solves the problem for icq 
changing the host=messenger.hotmail.com to it equivalent ip address DOES NOT solves 
the 
problem 
 
Is this could be related to a glibc problem ? 
 
see also bug #749




[Cooker] [Bug 919] [lisa] kio_smb and kio_fish destinations in lan:// not accessible

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 919]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=919

[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|3.1-0.rc6.2mdk  |3.1-1mdk



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Still the same behaviour with kdenetwork-3.1-2mdk (which isn't in the version
list). Please take a look before building RPMs for stable releases as this
worked in 9.0.



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When browsing a host in konqueror at the url lan://localhost (such as
lan://localhost/host1, links are shown depending on the services accessible on
the host (AFAIK one of ftp,http,smb and fish).

Accessing for example lan://localhost/host1/FTP redirects almost immediately to
ftp://host1, and similarly for HTTP (lan://localhost/host1/HTTP redirects to
http://host1). This is the correct behaviour.

The bug is that this does not work, for SMB (lan://localhost/host1/SMB) which
should redirect to smb://host1 or FISH (lan://localhost/host1/FISH) which should
redirect to fish://host1.

Note that directly accessing smb://host1 and fish://host1 works correctly, thus
it seems the bug is in kio_lan.

This feature has worked (although slightly differently) since KDE3.0.3 (ie
Mandrake 9.0) and before.




[Cooker] [Bug 750] [kopete] kopete cannot connect to icq or msn protocols

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 750]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
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since latest glibc update  kopete cannot connect to ICQ or MSN protocols 
 
rebuilding the rpm does not fix the problem. 
 
AOL protocol works fine (it does not use a host name in the config) 
 
In Kopete .kde/share/config/kopeterc : 
changing the host=login.icq.com to its equivalent ip adress solves the problem for icq 
changing the host=messenger.hotmail.com to it equivalent ip address DOES NOT solves 
the 
problem 
 
Is this could be related to a glibc problem ? 
 
see also bug #749




[Cooker] [Bug 693] [kopete] kopete starts but cannot connect to any protocol anymore

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 693]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693





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with latest qt, kopete starts but cannot connect to any protocol anymore. 
 
trying to rebuild the src.rpm leads to an error like : 
 
 
icqprotocol.cpp:1119: ambiguous overload for `std::string = QString' operator 
/usr/include/c++/3.2.1/bits/basic_string.h:338: candidates are: 
std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, 
_Alloc::operator=(const std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc) [with _CharT = 
char, _Traits = std::char_traitschar, _Alloc = std::allocatorchar] 
/usr/include/c++/3.2.1/bits/basic_string.h:341: 
std::basic_string_CharT, 
_Traits, _Alloc std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc::operator=(const 
_CharT*) [with _CharT = char, _Traits = std::char_traitschar, _Alloc = 
std::allocatorchar] 
icqprotocol.cpp:1120: ambiguous overload for `std::string = QString' operator 
/usr/include/c++/3.2.1/bits/basic_string.h:338: candidates are: 
std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, 
_Alloc::operator=(const std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc) [with _CharT = 
char, _Traits = std::char_traitschar, _Alloc = std::allocatorchar] 
/usr/include/c++/3.2.1/bits/basic_string.h:341: 
std::basic_string_CharT, 
_Traits, _Alloc std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc::operator=(const 
_CharT*) [with _CharT = char, _Traits = std::char_traitschar, _Alloc = 
std::allocatorchar] 
make[5]: *** [icqprotocol.lo] Error 1 
... 
 
 
# rpm -q kopete 
kopete-0.5-2mdk




[Cooker] [Bug 1167] [rpmdrake] New: Error: Cannot install new packages

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 1167]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167

   Product: rpmdrake
 Component: rpmdrake
   Summary: Error: Cannot install new packages
   Version: 2.1-4mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi folks,

Version:
Mandrake version 9.1b rc2

Error:
rpmdrake lets me not install new packages. I cannot find the reason is it a bug  
The reason is, that it will not access to the cdrom, although it has been chosen by me 
to install from.

If it is not a bug, please give me a clue, how to find the mistake !


Thank you very much !

Sincerly

Hans-J. Ullrich

My conditions:

P2, 800MHz, 256 MB, Atapi-IDE-CDROM, 20 GB Hardrive.

3 Partitions: /boot, SWAP, /

Network not configured yet (might that be the reason  Somebody mentioned it)

Installation else works fine, no problems so far.



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[Cooker] [Bug 1168] [rpmdrake] New: Error: Cannot install new packages

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 1168]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1168

   Product: rpmdrake
 Component: rpmdrake
   Summary: Error: Cannot install new packages
   Version: 2.1-4mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi folks,

Version:
Mandrake version 9.1b rc2

Error:
rpmdrake lets me not install new packages. I cannot find the reason is it a bug  
The reason is, that it will not access to the cdrom, although it has been chosen by me 
to install from.

If it is not a bug, please give me a clue, how to find the mistake !


Thank you very much !

Sincerly

Hans-J. Ullrich

My conditions:

P2, 800MHz, 256 MB, Atapi-IDE-CDROM, 20 GB Hardrive.

3 Partitions: /boot, SWAP, /

Network not configured yet (might that be the reason  Somebody mentioned it)

Installation else works fine, no problems so far.



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[Cooker] [Bug 693] [kopete] kopete starts but cannot connect to any protocol anymore

2003-01-31 Thread [Bug 693]
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-01-31 15:56 ---
Quite likely you're encountering this glibc bug:  
http://bugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl?cmd=view%20audit-traildatabase=glibcpr=4939return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbugs.gnu.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fgnatsweb.pl%3Fdatabase%3Dglibc%3Bdebug%3D%3Bcmd%3Dsubmit%2520query%3BCategory%3Dany%3BConfidential%3Dany%3BSeverity%3Dany%3BPriority%3Dany%3BResponsible%3Dany%3BState%3Dany%3Bignoreclosed%3DIgnore%2520Closed%3BClass%3Dany%3BSubmitter-Id%3Dany%3BSynopsis%3DreS_init%3Bmultitext%3D%3Bcolumns%3DCategory%3Bcolumns%3DSynopsis%3Bcolumns%3DConfidential%3Bcolumns%3DSeverity%3Bcolumns%3DPriority%3Bcolumns%3DResponsible%3Bcolumns%3DState%3Bcolumns%3DQuarter%3Bcolumns%3DKeywords%3Bcolumns%3DDate-Required%3Bcolumns%3DClass%3Bcolumns%3DSubmitter-Id%3Bcolumns%3DArrival-Date%3Bcolumns%3DClosed-Date%3Bcolumns%3DCases%3Bcolumns%3DLast-Modified%3Bcolumns%3DOriginator%3Bcolumns%3DRelease%3Bsortby%3DNumber%3Bdisplaydate%3DCurrent%2520Date
 
 
The testcase was distilled from having the same problem with Kopete. 
 
 
 



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icqprotocol.cpp:1119: ambiguous overload for `std::string = QString' operator 
/usr/include/c++/3.2.1/bits/basic_string.h:338: candidates are: 
std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, 
_Alloc::operator=(const std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc) [with _CharT = 
char, _Traits = std::char_traitschar, _Alloc = std::allocatorchar] 
/usr/include/c++/3.2.1/bits/basic_string.h:341: 
std::basic_string_CharT, 
_Traits, _Alloc std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc::operator=(const 
_CharT*) [with _CharT = char, _Traits = std::char_traitschar, _Alloc = 
std::allocatorchar] 
icqprotocol.cpp:1120: ambiguous overload for `std::string = QString' operator 
/usr/include/c++/3.2.1/bits/basic_string.h:338: candidates are: 
std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, 
_Alloc::operator=(const std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc) [with _CharT = 
char, _Traits = std::char_traitschar, _Alloc = std::allocatorchar] 
/usr/include/c++/3.2.1/bits/basic_string.h:341: 
std::basic_string_CharT, 
_Traits, _Alloc std::basic_string_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc::operator=(const 
_CharT*) [with _CharT = char, _Traits = std::char_traitschar, _Alloc = 
std::allocatorchar] 
make[5]: *** [icqprotocol.lo] Error 1 
... 
 
 
# rpm -q kopete 
kopete-0.5-2mdk




[Cooker] will secure kernel be secure in 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Andrey Borzenkov

to remind - currently almost none of the security options in secure 
kernel are enabled by default - they have to be manually turned with 
sysctl.

this makes secure kernel just faked promise. Installing it does not
give any more security (well, a bit more) than in normal kernel.

trusted, it can be enabled, but majority of people do not even
know about it.

I ask once more - the patch that enables all configured security
settings is two lines. Ater that people can do what they wish -
enable or disable at will, but it will boot up as secure as you have
configured it.

Please note, the problem affects MNF as well that by default does NOT
run secure kernel at all. 

chmouel? warly?

-andrey






[Cooker] mplayerplug-in for Mozilla

2003-01-31 Thread Tibor Pittich
hello

i'v found this interesting project, but i don't have time to testing
it.. i think, that it will be useful for playing multimedia files
directly into mozilla through mplayer.




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Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Oden Eriksson wrote:
 fredagen den 31 januari 2003 14.09 skrev Buchan Milne:

 This is also exactly what I meant... Personally I don't give a shit about MS, 
 but it's there, and I merely presented the idea that Buchan so thanksfully 
 put into words. I belive MS ship migration tools for moving away from Novell?

And they cover it in MCSE and all the books/guides for MCSE.

 If we had such a boxed collection the presumtive ms2mandrake consultant could 
 easily do his migration without having to search the whole internet for the 
 tools. Maybe there's also some good HOWTOs we could put in there?

Indeed. Actually, I have a number of files which I have put on my web
server (putty, cygwin ssh, etc) so that I can if necessary get at the
tools I need if I'm really stuck.

But, this really has merit.

Actually, putting the reg files that ship with samba:
[bgmilne@bgmilne bgmilne]$ rpm -ql samba-doc|grep \.reg
/usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/NT4-Locking.reg
/usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/NT4_PlainPassword.reg
/usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/Win2000_PlainPassword.reg
/usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/Win95_PlainPassword.reg
/usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/Win98_PlainPassword.reg
/usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/Win9X-CacheHandling.reg
/usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/WinME_PlainPassword.reg
/usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/WinXP_SignOrSeal.reg
/usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/WindowsTerminalServer.reg

on such a CD would also be useful ...

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] hdparm

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Oden Eriksson wrote:

 According to my hw retailer it's a major screw up if this is not fixed since 
 all new intel based workstations will have this chipset. But this MSI card 
 made me mad anyhow since there's no drivers prior windows me, I usally have 
 msdos 6.22, win311, win98, nt4ws|s|ent and nt5pro|s|as and many flavours of 
 linux installed. (i'm insane...)

I thought you were MS free?

Since I really only have one machine to multi-boot on (my laptop only
has space for 2 OSs), I limit myself to 3 Mandrake's and 3 Windows
(5pro, 5s, 5as) plus the odd extra linux dist ... but that may just be
because I don't have nt4server available ...

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] mplayerplug-in for Mozilla

2003-01-31 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Tibor Pittich wrote:


hello

i'v found this interesting project, but i don't have time to testing
it.. i think, that it will be useful for playing multimedia files
directly into mozilla through mplayer.



I've tried it a couple of day ago. AFAIK it's not much stable.
The first time works, but as you go on BACK and FORWARD
button in mozilla it causes mozilla crash/exits.

Furthermore it allows only one playing window at time,
because it calls mplayer with execvp() and using default
'XVideo' estension, which of course doesn't work with multiple
mplayer instances. Forcing -vo x11 (in which case
would allow to have multiple animations) doesn't work too when used in
combination of -wid (IMHO an mplayer bug).

IMHO it would be nice if such king of plugin would be
directly build on top of mplayer, rather than calling
in some pipe...

Bye.
Giuseppe.






Re: [Cooker] will secure kernel be secure in 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Fri Jan 31 18:44 +0300, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
 
 to remind - currently almost none of the security options in secure 
 kernel are enabled by default - they have to be manually turned with 
 sysctl.
 
 this makes secure kernel just faked promise. Installing it does not
 give any more security (well, a bit more) than in normal kernel.
 
 trusted, it can be enabled, but majority of people do not even
 know about it.
 
 I ask once more - the patch that enables all configured security
 settings is two lines. Ater that people can do what they wish -
 enable or disable at will, but it will boot up as secure as you have
 configured it.

Perhaps the security features could be enabled by running an initscript
which turns on the features through the sysctls?

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Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Oden Eriksson
fredagen den 31 januari 2003 17.02 skrev Buchan Milne:
 Oden Eriksson wrote:
  fredagen den 31 januari 2003 14.09 skrev Buchan Milne:
 
  This is also exactly what I meant... Personally I don't give a shit about
  MS, but it's there, and I merely presented the idea that Buchan so
  thanksfully put into words. I belive MS ship migration tools for moving
  away from Novell?

 And they cover it in MCSE and all the books/guides for MCSE.

Belive it or not, I have MCSE and CNE, but have a bad memory ;)

  If we had such a boxed collection the presumtive ms2mandrake consultant
  could easily do his migration without having to search the whole internet
  for the tools. Maybe there's also some good HOWTOs we could put in there?

 Indeed. Actually, I have a number of files which I have put on my web
 server (putty, cygwin ssh, etc) so that I can if necessary get at the
 tools I need if I'm really stuck.

Yes, and for this you need internet access...

 But, this really has merit.

 Actually, putting the reg files that ship with samba:
 [bgmilne@bgmilne bgmilne]$ rpm -ql samba-doc|grep \.reg
 /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/NT4-Locking.reg
 /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/NT4_PlainPassword.reg
 /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/Win2000_PlainPassword.reg
 /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/Win95_PlainPassword.reg
 /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/Win98_PlainPassword.reg
 /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/Win9X-CacheHandling.reg
 /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/WinME_PlainPassword.reg
 /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/WinXP_SignOrSeal.reg
 /usr/share/doc/samba-doc-2.2.7a/docs/Registry/WindowsTerminalServer.reg

 on such a CD would also be useful ...

Very nice!

This would be awesome. Mandrake could also fiddle with the cygwin setup source 
to make a minimal cygwin mandrake like env, maybe 20MB installed?

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Re: [Cooker] win32 for 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Oden Eriksson wrote:
 fredagen den 31 januari 2003 17.02 skrev Buchan Milne:

 Very nice!
 
 This would be awesome. Mandrake could also fiddle with the cygwin setup source 
 to make a minimal cygwin mandrake like env, maybe 20MB installed?
 

AFAIK, requires for perl-URPM are a bit more than 20MB ;-).

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread danny
On 31 Jan 2003, Austin Acton wrote:
 
 As Mark pointed out in a separate email, it is not possible. 
I'd like to see that mail.

 
 The capabilities patch is a 2 line kernel patch that starts init with
 a full set of capabilities (including CAP_SETPCAP, the ability to set
 capabilities on other processes). Capabilities are permissions to use
 certain calls or features of the kernel normally restricted to root
 only. For example, one of those capabilities is the ability of a 
 process to change its own scheduler to SCHED_FIFO(*), or change other

What I think is the problem is that they want jackd to be able to 
reschedule any program at some moment in time. For this, they would 
continuously need the ability to mess with the scheduler.

I would consider this a very non-secure thing, not much better than having 
it run all the time as root. Though I wonder why that is not possible.

Anyway, it seems that this is only possible by sacrificing security: do we 
want that in the low_lat kernel or not?


 Obviously the alternatives are even worse (unreliable low latency
 operation, or running everything as root)

Funny to see how these audio people thing low latencies are worse that a 
security problem.

d.






Re: [Cooker] will secure kernel be secure in 9.1?

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Levi Ramsey wrote:
 On Fri Jan 31 18:44 +0300, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
 
 Perhaps the security features could be enabled by running an initscript
 which turns on the features through the sysctls?
 

Why shouldn't they be covered by msec?

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] mplayerplug-in for Mozilla

2003-01-31 Thread Pascal Terjan
Tibor Pittich wrote:

hello

i'v found this interesting project, but i don't have time to testing
it.. i think, that it will be useful for playing multimedia files
directly into mozilla through mplayer.


Could you at least give an URL ?





Re: [Cooker] hdparm

2003-01-31 Thread Oden Eriksson
fredagen den 31 januari 2003 17.05 skrev Buchan Milne:
 Oden Eriksson wrote:
  According to my hw retailer it's a major screw up if this is not fixed
  since all new intel based workstations will have this chipset. But this
  MSI card made me mad anyhow since there's no drivers prior windows me, I
  usally have msdos 6.22, win311, win98, nt4ws|s|ent and nt5pro|s|as and
  many flavours of linux installed. (i'm insane...)

 I thought you were MS free?

Yes I am, sort of. I like to have them installed, or be able to have them 
installed. My situation has changed somewhat now and I have to use nt5pro 
occasionally. I need to be prepared for testing different environments. I 
have though been running Mandrake 99% of the time at home, each time I have 
to boot ms I get insane..., but it's ok, I'm real quick doing my internet 
banking (which is mainly why...).

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Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread Austin Acton
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 11:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  As Mark pointed out in a separate email, it is not possible. 
 I'd like to see that mail.

[SNIP]

It is not possible to run jackd as root and applications as a user, from
what I understand. All jack apps, including jackd, have to be run from
the same account.

jackd -R gives real-time support
jackd -R as a user is not allowed
jackstart -R allows the user to get real-time support
jackstart _may_ have been written by Fernando at the Planet. I am not
sure.
Once I heard this, but I'm not sure.

jackstart is a requirement for me to run jack just from a usage point of
view. I won't have all these apps running as root.

This also require the appropriate kernel, but we've been over that
already.

Cheers,
Mark

 What I think is the problem is that they want jackd to be able to 
 reschedule any program at some moment in time. For this, they would 
 continuously need the ability to mess with the scheduler.

Well, yes.  But they want jack and only jack to be able to mess with the
scheduler.

 I would consider this a very non-secure thing, not much better than having 
 it run all the time as root. Though I wonder why that is not possible.

Apparently (I haven't tried), jack only works in the daemon and the
application using it are run by the same UID.

 Anyway, it seems that this is only possible by sacrificing security: do we 
 want that in the low_lat kernel or not?

Well it sure looks like it can't be in the main kernel; that's for sure.
But it would make a lot of people happy if it was somehow an option.

  Obviously the alternatives are even worse (unreliable low latency
  operation, or running everything as root)
 Funny to see how these audio people thing low latencies are worse that a 
 security problem.

It's not that funny.  They're using their workstation as a workstation. 
It's sole purpose is to record audio, and having your recording
interrupted by cron or whatever is not an option.  Even a quarter-second
latency could ruin a recording.

Austin

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Re: [Cooker] kdm ( my 2 cents )

2003-01-31 Thread Jason Straight
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Yes, I would have no problem with mandrake making their own dm calling it 
mdkdm or mdm or whatever, but kdm on my machine right now is not kdm, I want 
kdm to be kdm not someone's replacement of it. I like the features that kdm 
had, and personally I'd like them back.

gdm is now it's own package, why not have mdm be another and leave kde alone, 
let it be kde.


On Friday 31 January 2003 10:06 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
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  Can we at least have the old kdm as /usr/bin/kdm.doesnt_suck or
  something.
 
  What was the point of replacing something that worked with something that
  has less features? I no longer have focus last user, no clock, no user
  selection, and it's automatic action when I hit enter was to reboot my
  computer.

 Some more issues:
 -Password field doesn't select the existing password when you use TAB if
 you entered the wrong password the first time (kdm did).
 -Valid is a really bad word to use in place of OK (win2k) or Go!
 (normal kdm).

 But the new lilo splash does look quite good.

  What was the point of this really? To be more like redhat?

 If anything, work on kdm should be to make it compatible with gdm and
 have the same features, so we can launch a new kdm greeter from within a
 running wm (like gdm can).

 Please rather add features to the existing kdm than stuff it up.

 Regards,
 Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] mplayerplug-in for Mozilla

2003-01-31 Thread Tibor Pittich
Da 31. jan 2003 o 17:25, Pascal Terjan napsal(a):

 Tibor Pittich wrote:

 i'v found this interesting project, but i don't have time to testing
 it.. i think, that it will be useful for playing multimedia files
 directly into mozilla through mplayer.
 
 Could you at least give an URL ?

ah, i'm sorry, i forgot it: http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/



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Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread Austin Acton
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 11:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyway, it seems that this is only possible by sacrificing security: do we 
 want that in the low_lat kernel or not?

Seems like Fernando (at CCRMA) has made a RedHat kernel where the
scheduling and low-latency patches can be applied at boot time?

You would understand better than I do, Danny.

http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/tunesystem.html

Austin

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Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 31 Jan 2003, Austin Acton wrote:
 
 What I think is the problem is that they want jackd to be able to 
 reschedule any program at some moment in time. For this, they would 
 continuously need the ability to mess with the scheduler.
 
 I would consider this a very non-secure thing, not much better than having 
 it run all the time as root. Though I wonder why that is not possible.
 

So what's wrong with having jackd (configurable via /etc/sysconfig/jackd
or something) start via an init script, and (configurable, disabled by
default) be able to run as root?? Do the jack clients need to be running
as root or not?

 Anyway, it seems that this is only possible by sacrificing security: do we 
 want that in the low_lat kernel or not?
 

Probably not.

 
Obviously the alternatives are even worse (unreliable low latency
operation, or running everything as root)
 

But does *everything*, or only jackd, need to run as root?

 Funny to see how these audio people thing low latencies are worse that a 
 security problem.

Depends what your business is I guess ...

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] hdparm

2003-01-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Oden Eriksson wrote:
 fredagen den 31 januari 2003 17.05 skrev Buchan Milne:

I thought you were MS free?
 
 Yes I am, sort of. I like to have them installed, or be able to have them 
 installed. My situation has changed somewhat now and I have to use nt5pro 
 occasionally. I need to be prepared for testing different environments. I 
 have though been running Mandrake 99% of the time at home, each time I have 
 to boot ms I get insane...,

Ahh, I'm in the same situation ;-)

 but it's ok, I'm real quick doing my internet 
 banking (which is mainly why...).
 

For that, I would use win4lin :-).

Boots windows faster than any machine I have ever seen ...

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] mplayerplug-in for Mozilla

2003-01-31 Thread Mike Graham
On Friday 31 January 2003 10:50 am, Tibor Pittich wrote:
 hello

 i'v found this interesting project, but i don't have time to testing
 it.. i think, that it will be useful for playing multimedia files
 directly into mozilla through mplayer.
I am using the mplayer plugin on the current cooker on Mozilla 1.3a and 
Phoenix and it works perfectly. Give it a try.
Mike




Re: [Cooker] mplayerplug-in for Mozilla

2003-01-31 Thread Tibor Pittich
On 31. jan 2003 17:03, Giuseppe Ghib? wrote:

 Tibor Pittich wrote:
 i'v found this interesting project, but i don't have time to testing
 it.. i think, that it will be useful for playing multimedia files
 directly into mozilla through mplayer.

 I've tried it a couple of day ago. AFAIK it's not much stable.
 The first time works, but as you go on BACK and FORWARD
 button in mozilla it causes mozilla crash/exits.
 
 Furthermore it allows only one playing window at time,
 because it calls mplayer with execvp() and using default
 'XVideo' estension, which of course doesn't work with multiple
 mplayer instances. Forcing -vo x11 (in which case
 would allow to have multiple animations) doesn't work too when used in
 combination of -wid (IMHO an mplayer bug).
 
 IMHO it would be nice if such king of plugin would be
 directly build on top of mplayer, rather than calling
 in some pipe...

thanks for detailed technical description. these defects is essential,
therefore is impossible to daily usage :(




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Re: [Cooker] mplayerplug-in for Mozilla

2003-01-31 Thread Yves Duret
Giuseppe Ghibò wrote:


IMHO it would be nice if such king of plugin would be
directly build on top of mplayer, rather than calling
in some pipe...


use vlc. it has a real decent mozilla plugin :)
i will add mozilla-plugin-vlc as soon as possible.





Re: [Cooker] Linux Audio RPMs

2003-01-31 Thread J. Greenlees
Buchan Milne wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 31 Jan 2003, Austin Acton wrote:

What I think is the problem is that they want jackd to be able to 
reschedule any program at some moment in time. For this, they would 
continuously need the ability to mess with the scheduler.

I would consider this a very non-secure thing, not much better than having 
it run all the time as root. Though I wonder why that is not possible.



So what's wrong with having jackd (configurable via /etc/sysconfig/jackd
or something) start via an init script, and (configurable, disabled by
default) be able to run as root?? Do the jack clients need to be running
as root or not?



Anyway, it seems that this is only possible by sacrificing security: do we 
want that in the low_lat kernel or not?



Probably not.



Obviously the alternatives are even worse (unreliable low latency
operation, or running everything as root)




But does *everything*, or only jackd, need to run as root?



Funny to see how these audio people thing low latencies are worse that a 
security problem.


Depends what your business is I guess ...

Buchan


also would depend on the design ( hardware wise ) of your network.
if you are running through a *nix router/gateway/firewall from the 
server to the extranet, then the intranet ( local ) security can be 
lowered for internal use, without a major reduction in security overall.
high tight security on external connection, lowered internal security to 
purchase the application speed /ease of use that increases productivity.
3d rendering eats cpu capacity, being able to keep as much free for 
rendering as possible speeds the process up. ( I have seen simple 
renders of a static scene from 3d mesh take 36+ hours, with only a high 
security setup. ( firewall / intrusion detection ) if the security level 
could be reduced on that workstation, then that same render would use 
less time to accomplish. this same concept will apply to sound editing 
as well as video compositing.





Re: [Cooker] Bad flash performance under cooker mozilla build

2003-01-31 Thread J. Greenlees
Chris Picton wrote:

In my experience, Shockwave flash performance under mandrake has always
been not smooth.

Ie, image fade in and out is jerky, and animations are jerky.

You can see this if you browse to www.flash.com.  The main animation, if
you play a bit with it, is not perfectly smooth.

I have tried installing the latest player from macromedia, and have the
same result.

If, however, I install mozilla 1.3a from ftp.mozilla.org, and install
the same flash player, playback is perfectly smooth, and I cannot see
any jerkiness.

I have tried using netscape compiled 6.2.3, and playback is also
perfect.

What else can I test to determine the cause of bad flash playback using
cooker mozilla/galeon?


not sure, since I don't see why any site should be running thier 
siteware on client systems and don't allow flash / javascript ( 
clientside scripting ) in my browsers.
a survey of 15000 people indicates that 80% of respondents leave any 
flash powered site immediately, so the reality is that flash plugin is 
not worth worrying over.
( concurrent survey had 50% not using javascript )




Re: [Cooker] What happened to the program more?

2003-01-31 Thread Han Boetes
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 #!/bin/sh
 
 #export LESSCHARSET=${LESSCHARSET:-utf-8}
 export LESSCHARSET=${LESSCHARSET:-koi8-r}
 exec less.bin $@

I would make an alias for something like that.

alias less='LESSCHARSET=${LESSCHARSET:-koi8-r} less'



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