[Cooker] [Bug 6384] [mozilla] AMD64 RC1 version of Mozilla is unstable
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6384 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-19-11 10:00 --- Random application crashes can't be application bug at first sight. You have to provide more information. I would guess you have one bad memory stick. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: creation_date: description: I am having stability problems in general when using 2 sticks of 512MB Kingston HYPERX memory, DDR 400 speed. But in particular, the Mozilla web browser closes at random times, and when I attempt to restart it, KDE frequently closes down, and then restarts automatically into a new KDE session. When KDE does not close down, I can't get Mozilla restarted at all. My motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-K8VNPX.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.23.0.1mdk-1-1mdk
Hi! The pwc driver needs to be updated. http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/release.html#pwc8.12 This new version adds support for the logitech sphere camera. And other newer webcams. Also The phillips.txt file in /kernel/Documentation/usb/ is very old. There is a much newer one inside the pwc-8.12 tar.gz Regards Torstein Dybdahl
Re: [Cooker] Updated heartbeat, and request
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On Tuesday 18 November 2003 3:32 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 12:39 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
Bret Baptist wrote:
D'Oh, that one seems to be a new addition that wasn't in fact tested.
I've just tested on 8.2 in a chroot with:
%{!?lib: %global lib lib}
%{!?mklibname: %global mklibname(ds)
%lib%{1}%{?2:%{2}}%{?3:_%{3}}%{-s:-static}%{-d:-devel}}
(that's two lines ... in case the last one wrapped to two)
OK we are making progress now. Only issues I am seeing is why would
these be build dependencies?
libgnome32-devel is needed by heartbeat-1.0.2-2mdk
libid3tag0-devel is needed by heartbeat-1.0.2-2mdk
I found the same issue now, I just --nodeps'ed it (libid3tag0-devel is not
in 8.2, I installed the rest painfully with my old 8.2 CDs which I seem to
have written on bad media ...) and it seems to be building OK.
I really can't think why I need half of GNOME installed to build this!
Maybe I will find out some time ;-).
Regards,
Buchan
Can we not just update the cooker version to 1.0.4 ? It does fix a security
issue after all, and also introduces some new functionality that some of us
want to use...
http://www.linux-ha.org/download/
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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:26:23 +0100 (CET) Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -=-=-=- Name: xmms Version : 1.2.7 Packager: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be nice to upgrade to xmms 1.2.8, there's been a lot of fixes since 1.2.7 was released, about one year and a half ago :-) The Packager tag may be removed, is it still useful to keep one ? -- Olivier Blin
Re: [Cooker] Updated heartbeat, and request
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Mark Watts wrote:
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 3:32 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 12:39 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
Bret Baptist wrote:
D'Oh, that one seems to be a new addition that wasn't in fact tested.
I've just tested on 8.2 in a chroot with:
%{!?lib: %global lib lib}
%{!?mklibname: %global mklibname(ds)
%lib%{1}%{?2:%{2}}%{?3:_%{3}}%{-s:-static}%{-d:-devel}}
(that's two lines ... in case the last one wrapped to two)
OK we are making progress now. Only issues I am seeing is why would
these be build dependencies?
libgnome32-devel is needed by heartbeat-1.0.2-2mdk
libid3tag0-devel is needed by heartbeat-1.0.2-2mdk
I found the same issue now, I just --nodeps'ed it (libid3tag0-devel is not
in 8.2, I installed the rest painfully with my old 8.2 CDs which I seem to
have written on bad media ...) and it seems to be building OK.
I really can't think why I need half of GNOME installed to build this!
Maybe I will find out some time ;-).
Can we not just update the cooker version to 1.0.4 ? It does fix a
security
issue after all, and also introduces some new functionality that some
of us
want to use...
http://www.linux-ha.org/download/
Done, please test it (I don't use heartbeat - yet ...)
Once I have a clean 9.2 installation, or klama's got a 9.2 chroot, I
will build packages for 9.2.
But, then we need to have a policy for updates to contrib ... and
possibly one on per-release release suffixes or epochs too ...
Regards,
Buchan
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Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6335] [Bugzilla] Wrong URL
[pascal.terjan] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6335 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-11 11:38 --- The correct URL is http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/ @resolution=fixed -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] latex2html broken w/ new perl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Current latex2html is looking for perl5.8.1: bash: /usr/bin/latex2html: /usr/bin/perl5.8.1: bad interpreter: No such file or directory Shouldn't there be a preventive rebuild of everything depending on perl? yes: do not write stuping programs that rely on specific versions of perl. since there're still maintream authors that do this, we've to patch such programs to rely on /usr/bin/perl and not /usr/bin/perl-version
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Olivier Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:26:23 +0100 (CET) Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -=-=-=- Name: xmms Version : 1.2.7 Packager: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be nice to upgrade to xmms 1.2.8, there's been a lot of fixes since 1.2.7 was released, about one year and a half ago :-) I checked pre1 back in august and it broke stuff. Didn't have time to test since then. The Packager tag may be removed, is it still useful to keep one ? Yes. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 13:04:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Olivier Blin: It would be nice to upgrade to xmms 1.2.8, there's been a lot of fixes since 1.2.7 was released, about one year and a half ago :-) I'll release an update of my private xmms package synched with 1.2.7-26mdk as soon as klama is back. You might want to take a look at that package and hopefully we can upload it to cooker. It contains quite a few changes: - disable rpath mess - drop patch 2 (libtool fix) - add patch 101 : disk writer file name fix - drop source 101 (1.2.7 translations) - png icons - update patch 100 - drop .la files - add alsa package - drop idc plugin - drop gnome stuff - autoconf2.5 macro - rediff patch 50 - drop patches 19,21,51,101 - rva patch - new version I've rediffed the 3D patch and added the rva patch and a small fix for the disk writer. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 14:19:12 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Cottenceau: I checked pre1 back in august and it broke stuff. Didn't have time to test since then. I've been running 1.2.8 since it's release, the only problem is the alsa plugin, I couldn't get it to work. The Packager tag may be removed, is it still useful to keep one ? Yes. OK, let's leave your name in the package. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 13:04:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Olivier Blin: It would be nice to upgrade to xmms 1.2.8, there's been a lot of fixes since 1.2.7 was released, about one year and a half ago :-) I'll release an update of my private xmms package synched with 1.2.7-26mdk as soon as klama is back. You might want to take a look at that package and hopefully we can upload it to cooker. [...] - new version As in 1.2.8? The A-B patch won't apply cleanly to that version. If I'm lucky I may figure it out and apply the patch by hand.
contrib updates (was Re: [Cooker] Updated heartbeat, and request)
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:44:52 +0200 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once I have a clean 9.2 installation, or klama's got a 9.2 chroot, I will build packages for 9.2. But, then we need to have a policy for updates to contrib ... and possibly one on per-release release suffixes or epochs too ... I really forgot about previous discussions about updates for contrib, and what ideas were put up and burned down. Isn't the most simple approach to use Mandrake-devel/unsupported/9.2 for this? If there's a way to upload packages for this directory, and have a hdlist generated there, then we can advertise it as a place to get unsupported updates. Since klama gets a chroot for 9.2, an upload script can be put in place to upload there, right? In MandrakeSoft's interest the best place is MandrakeClub, but I don't think it's a good solution for this. I tried getting an upload account there, but after three weeks I still don't have it. And I don't think the reason is that my packaging sucks, or I requested it in a rude way... So for now I just made my updates/backports available in an own repository. But if every contributor starts doing this, then it will still be a mess, so there needs to be a unified solution. -- Marcel Pol
[Cooker] Some Wiki stuff
New 10.0 credits, please have a look and update/fill/unfill http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux10Credits First 10.0 schedule estimation, this is highly subject to changes. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10 More doc about mkcd and how to make CDs, very uncomplete still, tough. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MakeCD -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] Danger: Magazine with 9.2 with problematic kernel
John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 11 November 2003 10:50, Warly wrote: [snipped] Yes you are right. And this problem of the source is clearly the case when you remaster your own CDs with your own packages and sell or give them as a Mandrake distribution. Does this put me in hot water? I create DVD-R's with the 9.2 download + contribs (including jpackage); which I supply for ¤2 per disk (no profit in that, none intended). Well as long as the packages included are the mandrake ones, no problem I guess. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] Mdk 10.0 suggestion - FAX configuration
Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Dienstag, 11. November 2003 12:52 schrieb Robert Fox: I have an AVM Fritz PCI card and I'd like to see an easy to configure Fax solutions for modems and ISDN in Mandrake 10. SuSE has SuSEFax . . . I've been a bit confused with the efax vs. hylafax configurations and what is really necessary for a single use solution. This would be a nice addition to drakconf (faxdrake or drakfax?) Thx, R.Fox I tried to have a look at Wiztemplate, but since I'm more then new to perl i can't see whats wrong: # drakwizard Can't locate object method new via package Wizcommon (perhaps you forgot to load Wizcommon?) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/MDK/Wizard/Wiztemplate.pm line 29. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/drakwizard line 63. Maybe this module isn't meant to be able to run it at all. I have searched the net to find some documentation about it. I don't know if it is just my missing knowledge of perl which makes me failing. Which version of drakwizard ? -- Warly
[Cooker] [Bug 6387] [harddrake] New: Radeon 7000 AGP detected as PCI
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6387 Summary: Radeon 7000 AGP detected as PCI Product: harddrake Version: 9.2-18mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2 Component: harddrake AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using LM 9.2, the Radeon 7000 (ve) AGP is detected as a PCI card Radeon 7000 (QY). As a consequence (?), DRI is not avalaible --as it is not avalaible for a PCI card, except for the PPC architecture, AFAIK. 3D acceleration was avalaible under LM 9.1, even if sometime it snows (cf bug 3775) I reported this bug for harddrake_9.2-18, but it's in fact valid for -16mdk and -19mdk (the -19mdk was not avalaible) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] Some Wiki stuff
For the Bugzilla thingy maybe I suggest a way for user to specify their machine configuration (a la Mandrakeexpert) to ease the work of the bug trackers??? Emmanuel Warly wrote: New 10.0 credits, please have a look and update/fill/unfill http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux10Credits First 10.0 schedule estimation, this is highly subject to changes. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10 More doc about mkcd and how to make CDs, very uncomplete still, tough. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MakeCD
Re: [Cooker] Some Wiki stuff
Warly wrote: New 10.0 credits, please have a look and update/fill/unfill http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux10Credits First 10.0 schedule estimation, this is highly subject to changes. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10 Hmm, it is definitely a subject to change, looks like you are a bit off a year :-)
[Cooker] [Bug 3775] [XFree86] ATI Radeon 7000 videocard snows
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3775 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 10:12 --- Still valid in LM 9.2 with 24bit of color depth and 1280*960 (no pb with thousands of colors) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: After configuring the X server for ATI Radeon 7000/VE (AGPx4, 32Mb DDR, DVI) using XFdrake from ML9.1 drakxtools-9.1-27.2mdk the image snows (horizontal blinking white lines) when a window is moved across the screen. For the NVidia GeForce MX200 card previously installed on the same computer with the same system everything worked fine.
[Cooker] [proposal] contrib process enhancement
OK, now that i have some free time to tr^H^Hdiscuss, here are some thought about how to make contributions easier and better. I propose to discuss here, and set up some page on the wiki when a consensus could be reached. 1) gpg signature of the contrib Currently, contrib package are not signed, or are individually signed by contribuer, making urmi yells every time you install them. I'd like to have them signed, and preferentially with a unique and official mdksoft key, instead of individual contributers keys. The reason if first they are official mdk packages first, it's easier to manage second (i don't want to add a new key to rpm database each time a new contributer arrive) 2) unique urpmi database on klama Currently, each time a package has some dependance to build, we have to first check if this dependance is either a contrib or a main package. This is both ugly and unpractical. I want to be able to install foo-devel with a single command, and let the system find where to fetch this package from 3) access to incoming Only Lenny is able to retrieve SRPM uploaded on ftp.mandrakesoft.com, so we generally ask people to also provide a link to retrieve it from elsewhere. All contributers should be able to access incoming, whatever location it is. Why not make people upload directly on klama ? 4) better mail adresses Each contributer should have some kind of official mandrake-linux mail adress, and be able to change real adress it correspond to easily. As a contributer is someone with a shell account on klama, why not use a SMTP there, delivering mail locally, making each one able to redirect mail to where he wants with a simple .forward ? 5) better mailing lists Do we really need two mailing-lists (maintainer and compil) ? Could thoses lists get subscribers only,so as to avoid spam ? Could subscription to those mailing list becomes automated (one shell account - one mail adress - one subscription) 6) anything else ? -- As soon as a still-to-be-finished computer task becomes a life-or-death situation, the power fails. -- Wood's Axiom
Re: [Cooker] Some Wiki stuff
Warly wrote: New 10.0 credits, please have a look and update/fill/unfill http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux10Credits First 10.0 schedule estimation, this is highly subject to changes. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10 More doc about mkcd and how to make CDs, very uncomplete still, tough. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MakeCD I think you need to update the Year... Unless you are going to release 10.0 9 months ago... =) Buzz
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 14:35:09 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: As in 1.2.8? The A-B patch won't apply cleanly to that version. If I'm lucky I may figure it out and apply the patch by hand. I've rediffed that one for 1.2.8, you just have to test it. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] [Bug 5592] [kdebase] Kscreensaver does not more exist !
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 11:52 --- Update kdelibs with update please. Regards. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: The KDE screen saver does not more exist in this package : will an independant package be created for Kscreensaver ?
Re: [Cooker] [proposal] contrib process enhancement
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 15:06:30 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: 1) gpg signature of the contrib The problem is that the contrib packages are no official Mandrake packages, so they cannot be signed by an official Mandrakesoft key. But the could be signed by an unofficial key, how about a Guillaume Rousse key :-) 2) unique urpmi database on klama Currently, each time a package has some dependance to build, we have to first check if this dependance is either a contrib or a main package. This is both ugly and unpractical. I want to be able to install foo-devel with a single command, and let the system find where to fetch this package from That's already done, just use sudo ue -u 3) access to incoming Yes, please. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Missing bootsplash options in Drakboot
Olivier Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:09:55 -0500 Élie Charest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is something that has bugged me for weeks - I can never seem to get the bootsplash options in Drakboot. Actually, I did get them a month ago or so, but since I've upgraded to the 2.4.22 (and tried out 2.6.0) kernel, I don't get the options. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this - anyone got any ideas? Is there a prerequisite in the initrd file in order to be able to see the bootsplash info in Drakboot? This bootplash panel has been disabled since months in Drakboot, while it works fine, I don't understand why. Can some MandrakeSoft people explain us what's wrong with it ? It only uses the switch-themes script IIRC. Yes it must be reactivated and checked. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] obsolete bugzilla account
Quel Qun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can I remove an obsolete bugzilla account? I do not think it is possible, maybe I will have to delete it manually from the database. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] [proposal] contrib process enhancement
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:06:30 +0100 Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, now that i have some free time to tr^H^Hdiscuss, here are some thought about how to make contributions easier and better. I propose to discuss here, and set up some page on the wiki when a consensus could be reached. 1) gpg signature of the contrib Currently, contrib package are not signed, or are individually signed by contribuer, making urmi yells every time you install them. I'd like to have them signed, and preferentially with a unique and official mdksoft key, instead of individual contributers keys. The reason if first they are official mdk packages first, it's easier to manage second (i don't want to add a new key to rpm database each time a new contributer arrive) Agreed. 2) unique urpmi database on klama Currently, each time a package has some dependance to build, we have to first check if this dependance is either a contrib or a main package. This is both ugly and unpractical. I want to be able to install foo-devel with a single command, and let the system find where to fetch this package from I always use sudo ue -u foo-devel, and it installs the package from main or from contrib. It wasn't always like this, but it works that way for a while. 3) access to incoming Only Lenny is able to retrieve SRPM uploaded on ftp.mandrakesoft.com, so we generally ask people to also provide a link to retrieve it from elsewhere. All contributers should be able to access incoming, whatever location it is. Why not make people upload directly on klama ? Yes, please. Not everybody can also make their package available on their own webspace. 4) better mail adresses Each contributer should have some kind of official mandrake-linux mail adress, and be able to change real adress it correspond to easily. As a contributer is someone with a shell account on klama, why not use a SMTP there, delivering mail locally, making each one able to redirect mail to where he wants with a simple .forward ? I don't care about control over the .forward, but it seems easier for Lenny this way. I cannot imagine that he likes to get bothered weekly about a changed mailadress. So making ths configurable by the user makes it a win-win situation. 5) better mailing lists Do we really need two mailing-lists (maintainer and compil) ? Could thoses lists get subscribers only,so as to avoid spam ? Could subscription to those mailing list becomes automated (one shell account - one mail adress - one subscription) Is there a compil mailinglist? I didn't know. Does it generate traffic? 6) anything else ? I just posted this in another thread, but this thread seems better. 6) updates for stable releases I really forgot about previous discussions about updates for contrib, and what ideas were put up and burned down. Isn't the most simple approach to use Mandrake-devel/unsupported/9.2 for this? If there's a way to upload packages for this directory, and have a hdlist generated there, then we can advertise it as a place to get unsupported updates. Since klama gets a chroot for 9.2, an upload script can be put in place to upload there, right? In MandrakeSoft's interest the best place is MandrakeClub, but I don't think it's a good solution for this. I tried getting an upload account there, but after three weeks I still don't have it. And I don't think the reason is that my packaging sucks, or I requested it in a rude way... So for now I just made my updates/backports available in an own repository. But if every contributor starts doing this, then it will still be a mess, so there needs to be a unified solution. -- Marcel Pol
Re: [Cooker] Some Wiki stuff
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 07:52 am, Warly wrote: More doc about mkcd and how to make CDs, very uncomplete still, tough. Thank you for taking the time in doing this. I have been getting lots of mail from people asking if I have gotten any farther and I have to keep telling them no. This additional info will help greatly. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] obsolete bugzilla account
Warly wrote: Quel Qun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can I remove an obsolete bugzilla account? I do not think it is possible, maybe I will have to delete it manually from the database. I don't think you're supposed to remove accounts. You can update an account with a new email address, but absent that, the old should stay in order that comments have something to be attributed to. IOW, comments would have to say something like account deleted instead of who made the comment. -- God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble. 1 Peter 5:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
[Cooker] Re: No Subject
Le lun 17/11/2003 à 19:23, Un expéditeur inconnu a écrit :
Seeing others linux partitions is what i can call : advanced stuff - so
this should not be enable by default ( and hard disk will show them ).
So, we should make it easier to use Windows, and less easy to use Linux?
easier to see where are the windows partitions.
A normal users should noyt browse the filesystem, that's why people ask
for multiroot view with the Home directory at first place because a user
should only have to access his files in his Home, and, for people with
multiboot in a desktop usage, easily shares somes files between win and
linux ( divx, mp3, doc, firmware, etc .. )
A normal user ( desktop environment ) should not see others linux
partitions except his home directory.
So, if they have a backup partition or something (easy enough to do with
diskdrake), they shouldn't be able to access it as easily as a Windows
partition?
Not needed as they decide where to put it so they know where to go !
So see / and /home on his desktop
is useless for him. Most of the times this kind of users put files in
their home directory and open/save some files in their windows
partitions in order to share them with windows. So they need to know
directly and easily where is their home directory ( the home icon ), and
where is/are their windows partition(s).
Showing FAT32/NTFS drives is what I called basic stuff for newbies. For
example, the user need to install the firmware for his modem to make the
connection work under linux, so he dl the firmware under windows and
then his first question is : Can i have an access to my windows drives ?
If yes, where can i access them ?
At least 5 times a week on a forum where you have many newbies we have
this kind of question. Mandrake control center ? they don't know or
don't know where to go ( MountPoint is chinese for them )
But they shouldn't need to even see diskdrake now (I assume that's what
you mean), they can either look in /mnt/windows, or /mnt/win_{c,d} etc,
or browse in devices (but it would be better if you didn't have to know
all 6 buttons in Konqueror to be able to browse devices).
They don't know that their windows partitions are accessible hanks to
/mnt/windows or /mnt/win*
They don't knwo what mount points means !
They used to have a multiroot view ( A: C: D: CDROM ... ) ! They don't
even know that rpmdrake exist ! Howmany times I tell some newbies to use
urpmi/rpmdrake to install packages ! They don't even know how to perform
search to see if they have a package and if the package is installed or
not ! They don't even bother to browse completely the menu !
This
way you can easily disable the icons. Gnome have this feature but only
for removable devices ( CDROM/Floppy )
On top of that windows partitions should be writable ( FAT32 only of
course ) by normal users ( so umask=3D0 should be set by default for
security level high ). So by default diskdrake set umask=3D0 for
windows
FAT32 partitions during install and when the user select a security
level higher than standard, then msec remove umask=3D0.
This is already the case AFAIK (last time I looked at the code). What
security level did you install with?
since which version ? I don't know for me as I don't install 9.2 on HD
where there was some FAT32 partitions, but on forum I have many times
users saying that they can't write on their windows partitions ( 9.1,
maybe 9.2 but will have to check ) at least if they was able to find
where was their windows partitions.
Look in CVS, file libDrakX/fs.pm (line 468 in cooker)
if (isFat($part) || member('vfat', split(':', $part-{type})) ||
isThisFs('auto', $part)) {
put_in_hash($options, {
user =3D 1, noexec =3D 0,
}) if $opts{is_removable};
put_in_hash($options, {
'umask=3D0' =3D $opts{security} 3,
'iocharset=3D' =3D $opts{iocharset}, 'codepage=3D' =3D $opts{codepage},
});
}
So, users who want this by default should install in the less secure
option. Of course, a better description should be given for umask=3D0 in
the diskdrake options.
The description seems to be fine. standard stand for which level ? Most
people don't care much and just click next when they reach security
settings. If standard is level 3, we'd better have umask=0' =
$opts{security} = 3,
By default most system are installed with level standard
Note : it seems it's level 2
I'm talking for home/desktop usage. in multiuser/workstation usage, the
sysadmin have the responsibility to enable/disable this feature. Now for
desktop/home usage when several people have access to the computer the
problem is Linux/unix rights limitations ( need ACL and easy way to
managed ACL ) or need away to specify that this group and only this
group of users can access theses drives.
Re: [Cooker] Some Wiki stuff
Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: New 10.0 credits, please have a look and update/fill/unfill http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux10Credits for i18n/l10n issues, this list (or at least the one in mandrake-release) should only has ascii characters. eg Bokmål should only be written Bokmål in soft/control-center/po/nb.po, not in the CREDITS list (unless someone ensure CREDITS is in utf8 and alter mcc and credits2po to tag strings as utf8 on input from CREDITS)
Re: [Cooker] Some Wiki stuff
From: Patrick Mullaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warly wrote: New 10.0 credits, please have a look and update/fill/unfill http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux10Credits First 10.0 schedule estimation, this is highly subject to changes. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10 More doc about mkcd and how to make CDs, very uncomplete still, tough. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MakeCD I think you need to update the Year... Unless you are going to release 10.0 9 months ago... =) I already fixed it... -- Regards Thomas
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.3-5mdk
FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le ven 14/11/2003 à 15:02, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 9.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 5mdk Build Date: Sat Nov 8 10:59:37 2003 There's seems to have a problem with timedrake/draketime thus, your problem is either with clock.pl from the drakconf package or with ntp wizard from the drakwizard package, but not with the drakxtools package Note : - I don't use ntp wizard but use ntp support in clock.pl Do you have the same delay when installing cooker and choosing the ntp support in install ?
Re: [Cooker] Gnome+metacity+msec problems?
Le lun 17/11/2003 à 22:25, Svante Signell a écrit : Hopefully someone has answers to my questions: 1. How to disable metacity and start sawfish instead, I've seen something like: killall metacity; sleep 5; sawfish, but this does not work. Any hints? set the correct gconf key with gconf-editor /desktop/gnome/application/window_manager -- Les mots qui ont un son noble contiennent toujours de belles images. Marcel Pagnol.
Re: [Cooker] latex2html broken w/ new perl
Thierry Vignaud wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Current latex2html is looking for perl5.8.1: bash: /usr/bin/latex2html: /usr/bin/perl5.8.1: bad interpreter: No such file or directory Shouldn't there be a preventive rebuild of everything depending on perl? yes: do not write stuping programs that rely on specific versions of perl. since there're still maintream authors that do this, we've to patch such programs to rely on /usr/bin/perl and not /usr/bin/perl-version Why? How one program can be sure for instance that /usr/bin/perl is compatible with old version (for instance imaging /usr/bin/perl is perl 6.0 and program was only tested against perl 5.8.1)? Bye. Giuseppe.
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:43:57AM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:58:17 +0100 (MET)
Svetoslav Slavtchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
have you missed that cramfs is readonly ?
we actually are missing /dev/root
as mkrootdev /dev/root fails -- read only fs
but it probably needs quite deeper changes
Actually, that isn't my problem for now, the kernel can't mount my
cramfs initrd ...
I've sent my kernel to Luca Berra, I hope he'll get some results :)
hello,
At the moment i put a new mkinitrd on
http://www.comedia.it/~bluca/cooker/lvm2/
It is version mkinitrd-3.4.43-9.99.1mdk
It creates an mkinitrd which sounds safe to me, but i did not do
complete regression on it.
I am still unable to mount cramfs initrd at boot, i am seeing the same
problem as Olivier
it doesn't work here too :(
I tested both with olivier and svetljo kernels
(btw i had to run depmod -a a couple of time to get correct module deps
with svetljo kernel)
strange :(
here evrything is ok
which module-init-tools do you use ?
in case the one from cooker/or the latest from Andrey,
could you check how does it work with my package ?
I am still trying to guess why the cramfs is not mounted (it is
detected and loaded correctly into ramdisk but does not load).
I will probably connect a serial console and dump the errors later.
could you include smth similar, but smarter then :
--- mkinitrd.luca 2003-11-18 21:30:00.0 +0100
+++ mkinitrd.mod_ide2003-11-19 16:39:44.645379336 +0100
@@ -456,7 +456,17 @@
# If we have ide devices and module ide, do the right thing
ide=/proc/ide/ide*
if [ -n $ide ]; then
-findmodule -ide-disk
+drivers=$(awk '/^alias ide-controller[0-9]* / { print $3}' $modulefile)
+# not sure what happens if secondary ide is loaded later
+#drivers=$(awk '/^alias ide-controller0* / { print $3}' $modulefile)
+if [ -n $drivers ]; then
+ for driver in $drivers; do
+ findmodule $driver
+ done
+ findmodule ide-mod
+ findmodule -ide-disk
+ findmodule -ide-probe-mod
+fi
fi
# check to see if we need to set up a loopback
filesystem
-
modprobe.conf contains:
alias ide-controller0 hpt366
alias ide-controller1 via82cxxx
and it seems to work without probs
53490/boot/config-2.6.0-t9.ruby.9mdk
372879 /boot/initrd-2.6.0-t9.ruby.9mdk.img
537/boot/kernel.h-2.6.0-t9.ruby.9mdk
806776/boot/System.map-2.6.0-t9.ruby.9mdk
1095083/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.0-t9.ruby.9mdk
it even could fit on a floppy probably , if there was a way
to use modular ext2
(( that is with xfs root, it may already work with all other fs's)
is there a possibility to use minix for initrd ?
best,
svetljo
PS.
using debian's modular-ide patch with :
built in ide - a single oops at cd initialisation
moduler ide - no problems, no oopses
may be we should add some ifdef's
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Re: [Cooker] Re: No Subject
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FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
Le lun 17/11/2003 à 19:23, Un expéditeur inconnu a écrit :
Seeing others linux partitions is what i can call : advanced stuff - so
this should not be enable by default ( and hard disk will show them ).
So, we should make it easier to use Windows, and less easy to use Linux?
easier to see where are the windows partitions.
A normal users should noyt browse the filesystem, that's why people ask
for multiroot view with the Home directory at first place because a user
should only have to access his files in his Home, and, for people with
multiboot in a desktop usage, easily shares somes files between win and
linux ( divx, mp3, doc, firmware, etc .. )
Again, you're confusing the limitations of KDE's file system abstraction
with the function of $HOME. Windows partitions don't deserve links in
$HOME. They must be easy to find, just as any other filesystem should be
easy to find. This doesn't mean they should be treated specially (IMHO).
I feel that if you do everything to make it easy to keep using Windows,
how can you even suggest to someone to try Linux (since you seem to be
saying that Windows is better, if you need to be able to use it so
much). What about the user who doesn't use Windows If we don't think
about this, how can we expect users to migrate totally??? If we don't
expect users to migrate totally, why are we even wasting our time making
things easy for them?
Yes, it must be easy to access the Windows partition, but no easier than
to access the Redhat partition (etc).
A normal user ( desktop environment ) should not see others linux
partitions except his home directory.
So, if they have a backup partition or something (easy enough to do with
diskdrake), they shouldn't be able to access it as easily as a Windows
partition?
Not needed as they decide where to put it so they know where to go !
But the user can just as well decide where they want to mount their
Windows partition (probably more easily).
So see / and /home on his desktop
is useless for him. Most of the times this kind of users put files in
their home directory and open/save some files in their windows
partitions in order to share them with windows. So they need to know
directly and easily where is their home directory ( the home icon ), and
where is/are their windows partition(s).
Showing FAT32/NTFS drives is what I called basic stuff for newbies. For
example, the user need to install the firmware for his modem to make the
connection work under linux, so he dl the firmware under windows and
then his first question is : Can i have an access to my windows drives ?
If yes, where can i access them ?
At least 5 times a week on a forum where you have many newbies we have
this kind of question. Mandrake control center ? they don't know or
don't know where to go ( MountPoint is chinese for them )
But they shouldn't need to even see diskdrake now (I assume that's what
you mean), they can either look in /mnt/windows, or /mnt/win_{c,d} etc,
or browse in devices (but it would be better if you didn't have to know
all 6 buttons in Konqueror to be able to browse devices).
They don't know that their windows partitions are accessible hanks to
/mnt/windows or /mnt/win*
They don't knwo what mount points means !
Who needs to know what mount point is to look in /mnt ??
They used to have a multiroot view ( A: C: D: CDROM ... ) ! They don't
even know that rpmdrake exist ! Howmany times I tell some newbies to use
urpmi/rpmdrake to install packages ! They don't even know how to perform
search to see if they have a package and if the package is installed or
not ! They don't even bother to browse completely the menu !
Well, if users can't browse the menus, how do they ever find paint.exe
in Windows? It's 3 levels deep!!! I guess no-one ever uses paint.exe (or
Solitaire), simply because they can't find it.
Do the users ever uninstall software in Windows? Who told them where the
control panel is
Sorry, but we're not here to make Mandrake exactly like Windows (that's
what Lindows does, except not quite as secure or easy to use etc etc).
This
way you can easily disable the icons. Gnome have this feature but only
for removable devices ( CDROM/Floppy )
On top of that windows partitions should be writable ( FAT32 only of
course ) by normal users ( so umask=3D0 should be set by default for
security level high ). So by default diskdrake set umask=3D0 for
windows
FAT32 partitions during install and when the user select a security
level higher than standard, then msec remove umask=3D0.
This is already the case AFAIK (last time I looked at the code). What
security level did you install with?
since which version ? I don't know for me as I don't install 9.2 on HD
where there was some FAT32 partitions, but on forum I have many times
users saying that they can't write on their windows partitions ( 9.1,
maybe 9.2 but will have to check ) at least if they was
Re: [Cooker] Gnome+metacity+msec problems?
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:57:31 +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le lun 17/11/2003 à 22:25, Svante Signell a écrit : Hopefully someone has answers to my questions: 1. How to disable metacity and start sawfish instead, I've seen something like: killall metacity; sleep 5; sawfish, but this does not work. Any hints? set the correct gconf key with gconf-editor /desktop/gnome/application/window_manager NO. It is only a view of current window manager, not a way to change it. Set WINDOW_MANAGER environment in .bashrc -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
On 19 Nov 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Olivier Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:26:23 +0100 (CET) Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -=-=-=- Name: xmms Version : 1.2.7 Packager: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be nice to upgrade to xmms 1.2.8, there's been a lot of fixes since 1.2.7 was released, about one year and a half ago :-) I checked pre1 back in august and it broke stuff. Didn't have time to test since then. I put it on club a while ago, it broke xmms-cdread, which i patched, I can send it when klama is up again (or check out the src.rpms on club). For the rest, it seems to work fine (300 downloads and nobody complained at least). d.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
onsdagen den 19 november 2003 15.07 skrev Götz Waschk: Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 14:35:09 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: As in 1.2.8? The A-B patch won't apply cleanly to that version. If I'm lucky I may figure it out and apply the patch by hand. I've rediffed that one for 1.2.8, you just have to test it. Sure, no problem. Where is it?
[Cooker] [Bug 6372] [kdebase] Clock applet could not be loaded.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6372 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 11:54 --- Update your package please. Regards -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Did an update this morning which included some qt and kde items. Upon restart of KDE an applet loading error (KDE panel) pops up. Its for the clock applet which says it could not be loaded. and that the installation should be checked.
[Cooker] [Bug 4712] [kdebase] GKrellM doesn't start/run automatically when restoring previous session
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4712 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 12:11 --- It was a bug in gkrellm. Update with new version -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: I have KDE (3.1.3-13) set to save my current session on logoff. I leave GKrellM (2.1.15-2) runing on logout but it isn't restored when I login the next time. It looks like it isn't saved into current session during logoff.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 16:43:26 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: I've rediffed that one for 1.2.8, you just have to test it. Sure, no problem. Where is it? The source package is in my web home: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/SRPMS/xmms-1.2.8-0.1gpw.src.rpm Binaries will follow. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] last quanta just crash on me.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] karamba_weather]$ rpm -q quanta libqt3 kdenetwork-common quanta-3.1.93-5mdk libqt3-3.2.3-2mdk kdenetwork-common-3.1.93-11mdk When launching quanta as a normal user, it just crash after displaying splash screen. If I launch it as root, it works. I'm using an NIS/NFS mount home directory. + bugs wizard only show : (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 16384 (LWP 30222)] 0x41be8656 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #0 0x41be8656 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 - In the console the only message I could see is : QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key kio (KDirWatch): Available methods: Stat, FAM quanta: : KDockWidget::setHeader quanta: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true) quanta: : KDockWidget::setHeader quanta: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true) quanta: : KDockWidget::setHeader quanta: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true) quanta: : KDockWidget::setHeader quanta: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true) quanta: : KDockWidget::setHeader quanta: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true) quanta: : KDockWidget::setHeader quanta: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true) quanta: : KDockWidget::setHeader quanta: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true) quanta: : KDockWidget::setHeader quanta: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true) quanta: : KDockWidget::setHeader quanta: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true) quanta: : KDockWidget::setHeader quanta: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true) kio (KDirLister): +KDirLister kio (KDirListerCache): +KDirListerCache kio (KDirWatch): Added File /etc/security/fileshare.conf [KDirWatch-3] kio (KDirWatch): Setup FAM (Req 1) for /etc/security/fileshare.conf kio: KFileShare::readConfig: s_authorization = Authorized kio (KDirLister): +KDirLister kio (KDirLister): +KDirLister kio (KDirLister): +KDirLister kio (KDirLister): +KDirLister kio (KDirLister): +KDirLister kio (KDirLister): [virtual bool KDirLister::openURL(const KURL, bool, bool)] file:/usr/share/apps/quanta/scripts/ keep=true reload=false kio (KDirListerCache): [void KDirListerCache::listDir(KDirLister*, const KURL, bool, bool)] 0x8929ea8 url=file:/usr/share/apps/quanta/scripts keep=true reload=false kio (KDirListerCache): listDir: Entry not in cache or reloaded: file:/usr/share/apps/quanta/scripts kio (KDirWatch): Added Dir /usr/share/apps/quanta/scripts [KDirWatch-2] kio (KDirWatch): Setup FAM (Req 2) for /usr/share/apps/quanta/scripts kio (KDirLister): +KDirLister khtml (caret): setCaretMode(true) khtml (xml): using compatibility parseMode --- Le sage dit, selon les gens : Vive le roi, vive la ligue ! -- Jean de La Fontaine, La Chauve-souris et les deux Belettes
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:07:32PM +0100, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: I am still unable to mount cramfs initrd at boot, i am seeing the same problem as Olivier it doesn't work here too :( and i have no idea why it isn't working :( I tested both with olivier and svetljo kernels (btw i had to run depmod -a a couple of time to get correct module deps with svetljo kernel) strange :( here evrything is ok which module-init-tools do you use ? latest from cooker in case the one from cooker/or the latest from Andrey, could you check how does it work with my package ? i will check, in time could you include smth similar, but smarter then : --- mkinitrd.luca 2003-11-18 21:30:00.0 +0100 +++ mkinitrd.mod_ide2003-11-19 16:39:44.645379336 +0100 added in mkinitrd-3.4.43-9.99.2mdk is there a possibility to use minix for initrd ? it should be possible, but cram seems best suited for what we want to do. regards, L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 16:46:24 Uhr MET, schrieb Götz Waschk: The source package is in my web home: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/SRPMS/xmms-1.2.8-0.1gpw.src.rpm The binaries are there: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/10.0 I've tried the a-b stuff, it's working fine. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.3-5mdk
Le mer 19/11/2003 à 14:57, Daouda LO a écrit : FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le ven 14/11/2003 à 15:02, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Name: drakxtools Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 9.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 5mdk Build Date: Sat Nov 8 10:59:37 2003 There's seems to have a problem with timedrake/draketime thus, your problem is either with clock.pl from the drakconf package or with ntp wizard from the drakwizard package, but not with the drakxtools package Note : - I don't use ntp wizard but use ntp support in clock.pl Do you have the same delay when installing cooker and choosing the ntp support in install ? hum, I never install cooker ... :D I install some 9.2 computers and they are fine ( using ntp support from install ). Going to learn MakeCD and find a computer where I could be trying to install cooker -- Qu'est-il ecrit dans ce cadre ? +--+ I RIEN I +--+ P. Geluck
[Cooker] [Bug 6385] [userdrake] Cursor stays as watch whenever you make changes to users
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6385 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|40 |25 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||INVALID --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-19-11 14:10 --- i do not see this as of userdrake-0.92-24mdk since 0.92-22mdk from sep 12 2003, userdrake restore the cursor -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Whenever I make a change to the users and get back to the main userdrake screen the cursor stays as a watch. This is annoying, but tolerable.
Re: [Cooker] Mdk 10.0 suggestion - FAX configuration
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003 13:26 schrieb Warly: # drakwizard Can't locate object method new via package Wizcommon (perhaps you forgot to load Wizcommon?) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/MDK/Wizard/Wiztemplate.pm line 29. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/drakwizard line 63. Maybe this module isn't meant to be able to run it at all. I have searched the net to find some documentation about it. I don't know if it is just my missing knowledge of perl which makes me failing. Which version of drakwizard ? I tried the one that comes with 9.2 Steffen
Re: [Cooker] latex2html broken w/ new perl
Giuseppe Ghibò [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shouldn't there be a preventive rebuild of everything depending on perl? yes: do not write stuping programs that rely on specific versions of perl. since there're still maintream authors that do this, we've to patch such programs to rely on /usr/bin/perl and not /usr/bin/perl-version Why? How one program can be sure for instance that /usr/bin/perl is compatible with old version (for instance imaging /usr/bin/perl is perl 6.0 and program was only tested against perl 5.8.1)? let's be serious: main upstream authors won't look at perl changes, distro maintainers do quite more work in that area. especially, latex2html predate the whole perl-5.8.x and perl-5.8.2 is only a bugfix release for 5.8.1 that main mainstream authors won't work with until their prefered distro get updated ... i even remember that in the old days (around 1995) they hardcoded /usr/local/bin/perl stuff in some latex2html scripts. this is just a badly packaged (at mainstream level) program.
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:07:32PM +0100, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: I am still unable to mount cramfs initrd at boot, i am seeing the same problem as Olivier it doesn't work here too :( and i have no idea why it isn't working :( I tested both with olivier and svetljo kernels (btw i had to run depmod -a a couple of time to get correct module deps with svetljo kernel) strange :( here evrything is ok which module-init-tools do you use ? latest from cooker in case the one from cooker/or the latest from Andrey, could you check how does it work with my package ? i will check, in time hm, i have to test rpm rebuild on my cooker box, but it tends to overheat - gcc segfaults :( could you include smth similar, but smarter then : --- mkinitrd.luca 2003-11-18 21:30:00.0 +0100 +++ mkinitrd.mod_ide2003-11-19 16:39:44.645379336 +0100 added in mkinitrd-3.4.43-9.99.2mdk thanks :-) is there a smarter way to autodetect the ide controller on which / lives ??? any one have idea what will happen if secondary ide interfaces are loaded later ??? is there a possibility to use minix for initrd ? it should be possible, but cram seems best suited for what we want to do. and it seems there is no way to get it running :( minix is writable so it should be pretty easy to add it may be almost only 's/ext2 / ext2 | minix/' i'm only questioning my self wether the kernel supports minix initrd best, svetljo -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
onsdagen den 19 november 2003 16.46 skrev Götz Waschk: Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 16:43:26 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: I've rediffed that one for 1.2.8, you just have to test it. Sure, no problem. Where is it? The source package is in my web home: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/SRPMS/xmms-1.2.8-0. 1gpw.src.rpm Binaries will follow. Works for me (tm). Thanks Götz!.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.3-5mdk
FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Going to learn MakeCD and find a computer where I could be trying to install cooker you don't have to fight with mkcd to switch a box from mdk9.2 to cooker. just add urpmi sources for cooker and its contribs and run urpmi --auto-select
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6389] [mandrake_theme] provide a default background
[bgmilne] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6389 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||INVALID --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 16:52 --- pre/post scripts on all packages that provide mandrake_theme should ensure that /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png exists and points the right background (Mandrake.png, Powerpack.png etc). Check in %pre of mandrake_theme: if [ ! -f /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds//default.png -o -L /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds//default.png ]; then rm -f /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds//default.png ln -s Mandrake.png /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds//default.png fi better provide some script in mandrake_theme-common
Re: [Cooker] Re: No Subject
Le mer 19/11/2003 à 15:18, Buchan Milne a écrit : FACORAT Fabrice wrote: easier to see where are the windows partitions. A normal users should noyt browse the filesystem, that's why people ask for multiroot view with the Home directory at first place because a user should only have to access his files in his Home, and, for people with multiboot in a desktop usage, easily shares somes files between win and linux ( divx, mp3, doc, firmware, etc .. ) Again, you're confusing the limitations of KDE's file system abstraction with the function of $HOME. Windows partitions don't deserve links in $HOME. They must be easy to find, just as any other filesystem should be easy to find. This doesn't mean they should be treated specially (IMHO). I feel that if you do everything to make it easy to keep using Windows, how can you even suggest to someone to try Linux (since you seem to be saying that Windows is better, if you need to be able to use it so much). What about the user who doesn't use Windows If we don't think about this, how can we expect users to migrate totally??? If we don't expect users to migrate totally, why are we even wasting our time making things easy for them? because sometimes they can't as we can't provides some application they need. providing easy access to windows partition is not a showstopper for a complete migration from migration. This is useful during the transition period. Yes, it must be easy to access the Windows partition, but no easier than to access the Redhat partition (etc). IMHO this is wrong. On desktop environment we target people wanting to migrate from windows and/or wanting to use linux. Most young people that will try mdk may still have a dual boot to windows because they need : - games - educational application for their mother/young sister/brother/... - use dreamweaver ( Crossover officejust make Dreamweaver and at least works partially ), etc ... Because of this when they may decide to share some files between windows and linux ( for example divx/mp3 ) in order to be able to access them in both world. Another kind of situation I usually see on forum : modem firmware. Indeed the user install linux ( dl edition ) and his USB modem doesn't work because he need to put the firmware, so he load windows, take/dl the firmware, then come back to linux and most of the time we see him on the forum saying : where can i access my windows partitions in order to take the firmware for my modem ? I see this at least once a week ! and i follow only one forum ! So, if they have a backup partition or something (easy enough to do with diskdrake), they shouldn't be able to access it as easily as a Windows partition? Not needed as they decide where to put it so they know where to go ! But the user can just as well decide where they want to mount their Windows partition (probably more easily). 1°/ during install they don't see diskdrake ( most of them will just let mdk do this automatically ) and they don't know where are the mountpoints of their windows partitions. On top of that they don't know what a mountpoint stands for. 2°/ after installation, they don't know that diskdrake exist, and even if they know MCC and maybe launch it one time, most of the time they don't even dig through MCC in order to see what's available. Last week end, i had to clean a windows computers that some people where using since 2 years. They were friends of my girlfriend. The problem was that something pretending working in informatique installed many games/apps on their computers ( so very very very long start menu, many icons on desktop ). You know what ? to remove a game/app, this guy just remove the directory of the game. the same for this 2 peoples. Worst, someone tell them to use Add/Remove program, but they don't try to know where it was located and never use it ! Find it is so simple ! just launch Config panel and you can DIRECTLY see it ( winMe ). So imagine for people when using MCC ... if they can't see it at first sight, it doesn't exist or they don't bother to search for it. They don't know that their windows partitions are accessible hanks to /mnt/windows or /mnt/win* They don't knwo what mount points means ! Who needs to know what mount point is to look in /mnt ?? where are my FAT32 partition ? in /mnt. If i don't launch mcc/diskdrake, how can i know that I have to go to /mnt ? They used to have a multiroot view ( A: C: D: CDROM ... ) ! They don't even know that rpmdrake exist ! Howmany times I tell some newbies to use urpmi/rpmdrake to install packages ! They don't even know how to perform search to see if they have a package and if the package is installed or not ! They don't even bother to browse completely the menu ! Well, if users can't browse the menus, how do they ever find paint.exe in Windows? It's 3 levels deep!!! I guess no-one ever uses paint.exe (or Solitaire), simply because they can't find it. some people act
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] postgresql-7.3.4-5mdk
Le ven 14/11/2003 à 16:14, Warly a écrit :
-=-=-=-
Name: postgresql Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 7.3.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 5mdk Build Date: Fri Nov 14 16:21:02 2003
Interesting problem :
I had a problem starting postgresql after having rebooting my computer
and unfortunately nothing was displayed. i had to start manually in
debugging mode postgresql ( /usr/bin/pg_ctl start -D
/var/lib/pgsql/data/ -o -d 5 ).
What I see is that it failed one time to launch because
/var/lib/pgsql/data/postmaster.pid exist and was empty. So the only way
to make it start was to remove this file. IMHO, in
/etc/init.d/postgresql we should ensure that this file have been
removed. Normally this file is removed when postgresql is stopped or
when we launched postgresql and no postmatser process is running, but it
seems that there can have some case when this is not true
A patch is joined adding this possibility.
- output when postgresql failed to start :
DEBUG: FindExec: found /usr/bin/postgres using argv[0]
FATAL: Can't read lock file /var/lib/pgsql/data/postmaster.pid: File
exists
DEBUG: proc_exit(1)
DEBUG: shmem_exit(1)
DEBUG: exit(1)
- content of /var/lib/pgsql/data/postmaster.pid when postgresql is
running :
6496
/var/lib/pgsql/data
5432001 4685834
---
Pour chaque etre, il existe une sorte d'activite ou il serait utile a la
societe, en meme temps qu'il y trouverait son bonheur. -- Maurice Barres
--- postgresql 2003-11-14 15:20:41.0 +
+++ postgresql.new 2003-11-19 19:01:26.0 +
@@ -153,6 +153,7 @@
else
#all systems go -- remove any stale lock files
rm -f /tmp/.s.PGSQL.${PGPORT} /dev/null
+ rm -f /var/lib/pgsql/data/postmaster.pid /dev/null
gprintf %s $PSQL_START
su -l postgres -s /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/pg_ctl -D $PGDATA -p /usr/bin/postmaster -o '-p ${PGPORT}' start /dev/null 21 /dev/null
sleep 1
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 05:53:52PM +0100, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: --- mkinitrd.luca 2003-11-18 21:30:00.0 +0100 +++ mkinitrd.mod_ide2003-11-19 16:39:44.645379336 +0100 added in mkinitrd-3.4.43-9.99.2mdk which will appear in all theatres as soon i fix a nasty tmpfs-lvm related bug :( thanks :-) is there a smarter way to autodetect the ide controller on which / lives ??? any one have idea what will happen if secondary ide interfaces are loaded later ??? no idea i'm only questioning my self wether the kernel supports minix initrd reading comments in the source code it does -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] Updated heartbeat, and request
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 4:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 3:32 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 12:39 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
Bret Baptist wrote:
D'Oh, that one seems to be a new addition that wasn't in fact tested.
I've just tested on 8.2 in a chroot with:
%{!?lib: %global lib lib}
%{!?mklibname: %global mklibname(ds)
%lib%{1}%{?2:%{2}}%{?3:_%{3}}%{-s:-static}%{-d:-devel}}
(that's two lines ... in case the last one wrapped to two)
OK we are making progress now. Only issues I am seeing is why would
these be build dependencies?
libgnome32-devel is needed by heartbeat-1.0.2-2mdk
libid3tag0-devel is needed by heartbeat-1.0.2-2mdk
I found the same issue now, I just --nodeps'ed it (libid3tag0-devel is not
in 8.2, I installed the rest painfully with my old 8.2 CDs which I seem to
have written on bad media ...) and it seems to be building OK.
I really can't think why I need half of GNOME installed to build this!
Maybe I will find out some time ;-).
Commented out the gnome and id3 stuff, compiled fine.
But when I went to install the rpm we made and I get this:
Installation failed:
rpm-helper is needed by heartbeat-1.0.4-1mdk
Can I just nodeps this?
Bret.
Regards,
Buchan
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Re: [Cooker] Updated heartbeat, and request
Commented out the gnome and id3 stuff, compiled fine. But when I went to install the rpm we made and I get this: Installation failed: rpm-helper is needed by heartbeat-1.0.4-1mdk Can I just nodeps this? No, rpm-helper is a batch of script which install/configure services, users, group, ect... Better, uses urpmi. Bret. Regards, Buchan -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Updated heartbeat, and request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bret Baptist wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 4:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Commented out the gnome and id3 stuff, compiled fine. But when I went to install the rpm we made and I get this: Installation failed: rpm-helper is needed by heartbeat-1.0.4-1mdk Can I just nodeps this? For an upgrade, it should be ok (if you manually restart/reload/condrestart heartbeat), for new installs it might not automagically enable heartbeat. rpm-helper provides the scripts used by %_pre_useradd, %_post_service etc, and heartbeat just has a %_post_service and %_preun_service (ie no big deal). If it used a %_pre_useradd it would have been more of an issue. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/u7TVrJK6UGDSBKcRAnxYAJ0RmQX68feFV093PN01TNbiiXDwRACgtMMn mq7gg1ZQmLV2gtAeDVNIWFs= =plPI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 05:53:52PM +0100, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: --- mkinitrd.luca 2003-11-18 21:30:00.0 +0100 +++ mkinitrd.mod_ide2003-11-19 16:39:44.645379336 +0100 added in mkinitrd-3.4.43-9.99.2mdk which will appear in all theatres as soon i fix a nasty tmpfs-lvm related bug :( thanks :-) is there a smarter way to autodetect the ide controller on which / lives ??? any one have idea what will happen if secondary ide interfaces are loaded later ??? no idea i'm only questioning my self wether the kernel supports minix initrd reading comments in the source code it does seems so hint :-) can we have a 3mdk with minix support ?-) /hint :-) svetljo -- GMX Weihnachts-Special: Seychellen-Traumreise zu gewinnen! Rentier entlaufen. Finden Sie Rudolph! Als Belohnung winken tolle Preise. http://www.gmx.net/de/cgi/specialmail/ +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] drakxtools-9.3-5mdk
Le mer 19/11/2003 à 16:57, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Going to learn MakeCD and find a computer where I could be trying to install cooker you don't have to fight with mkcd to switch a box from mdk9.2 to cooker. just add urpmi sources for cooker and its contribs and run urpmi --auto-select lol. :D The problem is using the ntp support from install and see if i have the same problem, if not the problem comes from clock.pl or at least somethings that is not shared by DrakX If now everything is shared, I think I will have the problem then. My cooker box is an upgrade from the 9.0 ( yeah, the 9.0 - cooker - 9.1cooker - cooker - 9.2cooker - cooker ).
[Cooker] [Bug 6388] [arts] New: artsd crashes with nas output
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6388 Summary: artsd crashes with nas output Product: arts Version: 1.1.93-4mdk Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: packaging AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] artsd can use a remote nas daemon for audio output. It uses the AUDIOSERVER environment variable to get the host name of the machine which is running nasd. If the variable is missing, artsd crashes with a segmentation fault. This bug affects both 1.1.93-4mdk and the version from Mandrake 9.2. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] Updated heartbeat, and request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olivier Thauvin wrote: No, rpm-helper is a batch of script which install/configure services, users, group, ect... Better, uses urpmi. No rpm-helper on 8.2 (including MNF which I think Bret is using): [EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Bluebird) for i586 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ urpmq mandrake-release -r mandrake-release-8.2-1mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] bgmilne]$ urpmq rpm-helper no package named rpm-helper Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/u7dlrJK6UGDSBKcRApiYAKCJ2W+pA5xQDA0uPKnSXYD9wTzymACgtmrW qJjF9Xf/7b0PrXWEPZbVTy4= =nzxL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Samba update failed?
On Saturday 15 November 2003 04:45 pm, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: Did a urpmi --auto-select tonight - possible samba update bomb? Here's the console output: Update you local repository. The new perl modules are there and your hdlist is most likely off. or you simply have not downloaded the latest parts. I have installed it here and upgraded it form the working 9.2 install and it works perfectly so far. -- New and improved with advanced outlook crash handler. !--input type -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] [Bug 6389] [mandrake_theme] New: provide a default background
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6389 Summary: provide a default background Product: mandrake_theme Version: 0.1.0-1mdk Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: packaging AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake_theme doesn't provide a default backaground across different Mandrake versions, or even within the same Mandrake version. Mandrake 9.1: There's only mandrake_desk which provides /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png. Mandrake 9.2 download: There's mandrake_desk which provides /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default-9.1.png, but no default.png. Then there's mandrake_theme which provides /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/Mandrake.png Mandrake 9.2 PowerPack: Mandrake_theme is not installed by default, but there is mandrake_theme-powerpack, which provides mandrake_theme, and the file /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/Powerpack.png So there is no consistency, and setting up a windowmanager to use a default background is impossible. This will result in windowmanager using their own backgrounds, which costs space and adds inconsistancy across desktops/wm's. It will be a good idea to rename mandrake_theme to mandrake_theme-download, so it's clear that it's not the same package as the mandrake_theme on the powerpack. It should still provide mandrake_theme. A solution would be to provide a default background. And I mean just the same filename, like Mandrake.png. I don't really care if the download edition would have a Download.png, while Mandrake.png becomes a symlink to one or the other, or if both packages contain a Mandrake.png, as long as it is possible to use the same filename for a background, and set mandrake_theme as a dependency. I would prefer a solution that is compatible as possible with the current release, 9.2, that's why I suggest Mandrake.png as default filename. Just to make an example of where the problem comes up: XFce4 (actually xfdesktop-4) has it's default background hardcoded, and I changed it from an xfce background to Mandrake.png. The problem is that when people install these packages on their powerpack, that it will not have a background, since mandrake_theme-powerpack is the default package installed. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6389] [mandrake_theme] provide a default background
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [waschk] wrote: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6389 It doesn't always seem to work, as I don't have the /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds//default.png symlink. Some previous versions had bad %postun's, so you might want to --force the current package over itself ... New installations and upgrades from 9.1 should work ok (AFAIK). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/u9AArJK6UGDSBKcRAioMAKDAPGIyR8gx2WNTd1uXwkt3CtGZpgCfdems P98CczI4aCY4WHUzBtG2r5k= =DXDL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] A WindowMaker Galaxy theme ?
Hi, when the 9.1 came out, i feel very frustated. Each major WM got his new theme named Mandrake Galaxy... but my favorites one stayed with it's oldschool gray look. Newly fully converted to linux (no more windows) and still uncomfortable with The Gimp, i've decided to draw a new theme for WindowMaker trying to immimitate the new Mandrake look. Here it is, any comments are welcome. http://monkeys.free.fr/MdkGalaxyTheme.tgz http://monkeys.free.fr/MdkGalaxyShot.jpg THX. Philippe.
[Cooker] [Bug 3524] [kernel] Running drakconf periodically makes the kernel lose the mouse
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3524 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 16:27 --- Created an attachment (id=975) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=975action=view) var-log-messages output -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: I have a USB Microsoft Intellimouse connected to a VIA686A motherboard's USB port. Often (nine of ten times) when I run drakconf, during the initialization screen, the mouse will stop responding, and its device entry dissapears from USB. The only way to get the mouse back is to reboot, or to rmmod usb-uhci; insmod usb-uhci, which sometimes causes a kernel OOPS. This is with the multimedia kernel, and XF4.2 with the ATI Radeon driver.
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] Show windows drives on desktop
Coun'ld it be possible to create symbolic links in the user's home pointing at removable media and harddrives, such as (dvd = /mnt/cdrom1, burner = /mnt/cdrom2) easier to understand for beginner. DOS partitions could also be mounted with their volume name. This could be a very very very GOOD thing Why this was not done before ???!!!
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] Show windows drives on desktop
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 04:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coun'ld it be possible to create symbolic links in the user's home pointing at removable media and harddrives, such as (dvd = /mnt/cdrom1, burner = /mnt/cdrom2) easier to understand for beginner. DOS partitions could also be mounted with their volume name. This could be a very very very GOOD thing Why this was not done before ???!!! I agree - this would be a nice thing V.
[Cooker] [Bug 3524] [kernel] Running drakconf periodically makes the kernel lose the mouse
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3524 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 16:29 --- Created an attachment (id=976) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=976action=view) var-log-messages output same problem with mandrake 9.2 and the last updates available when I use adiusbadsl module (driver for the sagem fast 800 modem) it seems that there is a bug with drakconf and usb-uhci module -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: I have a USB Microsoft Intellimouse connected to a VIA686A motherboard's USB port. Often (nine of ten times) when I run drakconf, during the initialization screen, the mouse will stop responding, and its device entry dissapears from USB. The only way to get the mouse back is to reboot, or to rmmod usb-uhci; insmod usb-uhci, which sometimes causes a kernel OOPS. This is with the multimedia kernel, and XF4.2 with the ATI Radeon driver.
[Cooker] [Bug 6389] [mandrake_theme] provide a default background
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6389 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||INVALID --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 16:52 --- pre/post scripts on all packages that provide mandrake_theme should ensure that /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png exists and points the right background (Mandrake.png, Powerpack.png etc). Check in %pre of mandrake_theme: if [ ! -f /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds//default.png -o -L /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds//default.png ]; then rm -f /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds//default.png ln -s Mandrake.png /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds//default.png fi -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Mandrake_theme doesn't provide a default backaground across different Mandrake versions, or even within the same Mandrake version. Mandrake 9.1: There's only mandrake_desk which provides /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png. Mandrake 9.2 download: There's mandrake_desk which provides /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default-9.1.png, but no default.png. Then there's mandrake_theme which provides /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/Mandrake.png Mandrake 9.2 PowerPack: Mandrake_theme is not installed by default, but there is mandrake_theme-powerpack, which provides mandrake_theme, and the file /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/Powerpack.png So there is no consistency, and setting up a windowmanager to use a default background is impossible. This will result in windowmanager using their own backgrounds, which costs space and adds inconsistancy across desktops/wm's. It will be a good idea to rename mandrake_theme to mandrake_theme-download, so it's clear that it's not the same package as the mandrake_theme on the powerpack. It should still provide mandrake_theme. A solution would be to provide a default background. And I mean just the same filename, like Mandrake.png. I don't really care if the download edition would have a Download.png, while Mandrake.png becomes a symlink to one or the other, or if both packages contain a Mandrake.png, as long as it is possible to use the same filename for a background, and set mandrake_theme as a dependency. I would prefer a solution that is compatible as possible with the current release, 9.2, that's why I suggest Mandrake.png as default filename. Just to make an example of where the problem comes up: XFce4 (actually xfdesktop-4) has it's default background hardcoded, and I changed it from an xfce background to Mandrake.png. The problem is that when people install these packages on their powerpack, that it will not have a background, since mandrake_theme-powerpack is the default package installed.
[Cooker] [Bug 6390] [xmms] New: XMMS dies with no errors when the play button is pushed
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6390 Summary: XMMS dies with no errors when the play button is pushed Product: xmms Version: 1.2.7-26mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: xmms AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] XMMS dies with no errors when the play button is pushed if XMMS is launched from the K menu. If I launch XMMS from Konsole, it seems to work fine. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6389] [mandrake_theme] provide a default background
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6389 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 17:02 --- It doesn't always seem to work, as I don't have the /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds//default.png symlink. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: Mandrake_theme doesn't provide a default backaground across different Mandrake versions, or even within the same Mandrake version. Mandrake 9.1: There's only mandrake_desk which provides /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png. Mandrake 9.2 download: There's mandrake_desk which provides /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default-9.1.png, but no default.png. Then there's mandrake_theme which provides /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/Mandrake.png Mandrake 9.2 PowerPack: Mandrake_theme is not installed by default, but there is mandrake_theme-powerpack, which provides mandrake_theme, and the file /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/Powerpack.png So there is no consistency, and setting up a windowmanager to use a default background is impossible. This will result in windowmanager using their own backgrounds, which costs space and adds inconsistancy across desktops/wm's. It will be a good idea to rename mandrake_theme to mandrake_theme-download, so it's clear that it's not the same package as the mandrake_theme on the powerpack. It should still provide mandrake_theme. A solution would be to provide a default background. And I mean just the same filename, like Mandrake.png. I don't really care if the download edition would have a Download.png, while Mandrake.png becomes a symlink to one or the other, or if both packages contain a Mandrake.png, as long as it is possible to use the same filename for a background, and set mandrake_theme as a dependency. I would prefer a solution that is compatible as possible with the current release, 9.2, that's why I suggest Mandrake.png as default filename. Just to make an example of where the problem comes up: XFce4 (actually xfdesktop-4) has it's default background hardcoded, and I changed it from an xfce background to Mandrake.png. The problem is that when people install these packages on their powerpack, that it will not have a background, since mandrake_theme-powerpack is the default package installed.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19 Nov 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Olivier Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:26:23 +0100 (CET) Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -=-=-=- Name: xmms Version : 1.2.7 Packager: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be nice to upgrade to xmms 1.2.8, there's been a lot of fixes since 1.2.7 was released, about one year and a half ago :-) I checked pre1 back in august and it broke stuff. Didn't have time to test since then. I put it on club a while ago, it broke xmms-cdread, which i patched, I can send it when klama is up again (or check out the src.rpms on club). For the rest, it seems to work fine (300 downloads and nobody complained at least). trivial patch to make cdread work again (attached). d. xmms-cdread-0.14a-shuffle_list.patch.bz2 Description: BZip2 compressed data
[Cooker] kde-i18n-sv
Any special reason there is no kde-i18n-sv RPM of KDE 3.2 beta?
[Cooker] [Bug 114] [kernel] Mandrake 9.0 Beta 2 Reboot causes Mouse to Lock-Up
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=114 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Version|2.4.21-1mdk |2.4.22-0.7mdk --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-08-29 16:39 --- This bug has been automatically updated to last version of product available. Please check if it is still valid. --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 18:22 --- The problem still exist on mandrake 9.2 and the current kernel 2.4.22 -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: When I reboot from Linux , and I re-start in Lilo, which subsequently restarts Linux, or Windows-XP, The mouse is Frozen If I reboot from Linux, and tell it to start Windows-XP directly and by-pass lilo , the mouse is NOT Frozen.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Packager tag may be removed, is it still useful to keep one ? Yes. OK, let's leave your name in the package. /me should buy a few more neurons. I meant to say yes to go on remove it. Sorry. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It contains quite a few changes: Sounds interesting and you're definitely an experienced packager. You may upload it to cooker if you want (I'll do if you don't have the rights). I don't have much time for it currently (you know, that secret Mandrake project that we're very much in a hurry with). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
[Cooker] [Bug 6258] [jabber] adding logrotate support in jabber to avoid server crash
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6258
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What|Removed |Added
Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
Resolution||FIXED
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 18:47 ---
Merged in jabber-1.4.3-1mdk.
thanks.
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I've got a request for jabber package : provide support for logrotate.
Indeed I was unable to start my local jabber server until I understand
that the problem's comes from /var/log/jabber/record.log and
/var/log/jabber/error.log .
error.log grow, and grow so much that at the end
jabber doesn't want to start as error.log was too big ( more than 7Mo,
maybe kopete related ... ). This limitation comes from xdb component.
So adding a script in /etc/logrotate.d could did the trick and allow to
don't have a jabber server stopping running at all ( this is limit a DoS
against jabber ).
weekly rotations should be enough with 4 copies for record.log, and
rotation when filesize exceed 1M should be enough for error.log :
/var/log/jabber/record.log {
monthly
rotate 4
notifempty
missingok
}
/var/log/jabber/error.log {
size=1M
rotate 4
notifempty
missingok
[Cooker] [Bug 5821] [kernel] kernel 2.4.22-9mdk-i686-up-4GB does not boot w/ACPI enabled
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5821 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 21:25 --- I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 and the option 'nolapic' is not solving the problem in my case, namely my laptop hangs completely when disconnecting the AC cord and also when closing the lid. The option 'apic=off' does not work either, nor does using it together with 'nolapic'. I have only been able to solve the problem by reverting to the 2.4.21 kernel shipped with 9.1, that works fine for me so far. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: New cooker kernel freezes when ACPI is enabled. Hardware is HP omnibook 4500XE.
[Cooker] [Bug 6384] [mozilla] AMD64 RC1 version of Mozilla is unstable
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6384 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-19 23:12 --- I am running without problems on Windows XP. I have tested all my memory with the Microsoft memory tester, with no errors reported. I tried to use memtest86, but it crashes--I don't think it likes the AMD64 CPU. I would be happy to use any other memory tester that would work. And I also would be happy to provide more information, if you could kindly suggest what other information is useful and how I could obtain it. Thank you. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: creation_date: description: I am having stability problems in general when using 2 sticks of 512MB Kingston HYPERX memory, DDR 400 speed. But in particular, the Mozilla web browser closes at random times, and when I attempt to restart it, KDE frequently closes down, and then restarts automatically into a new KDE session. When KDE does not close down, I can't get Mozilla restarted at all. My motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-K8VNPX.
[Cooker] [Bug 6391] [unixODBC-gui-qt] New: ODBCConfig should depend on libunixODBC2-qt
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6391 Summary: ODBCConfig should depend on libunixODBC2-qt Product: unixODBC-gui-qt Version: 2.2.6-5mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trying to launch ODBCConfig (from unixODBC-gui-qt) triggers an error message about missing libodbcinstQ* Installing libunixODBC2-qt provides the necessary library. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6391] [unixODBC-gui-qt] ODBCConfig should depend on libunixODBC2-qt
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6391 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-20-11 00:10 --- On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, [gerard.patel] wrote: Thanks, I'll take a look at it. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: creation_date: description: Trying to launch ODBCConfig (from unixODBC-gui-qt) triggers an error message about missing libodbcinstQ* Installing libunixODBC2-qt provides the necessary library.
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Hi ! What about RS 6000 machines ? Especially 43P-150 :-) Will they be able to boot and install from the 9.2 I would love to get these machines runing on Linux and Mandrake Since i already have a couple of x86 doing that ! Regards Kjell A -- __ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Search Smarter - get the new eXact Search Bar for free! http://www.exactsearchbar.com/
Mandrake on RS 6000
Hi ! What about RS 6000 machines ? Especially 43P-150 :-) Will they be able to boot and install from the 9.2 I would love to get these machines runing on Linux and Mandrake Since i already have a couple of x86 doing that ! Regards Kjell A -- __ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Search Smarter - get the new eXact Search Bar for free! http://www.exactsearchbar.com/
Re: Mandrake on RS 6000
A Dimecres 19 Novembre 2003 12:19, Kjell Andersson va escriure: What about RS 6000 machines ? Especially 43P-150 :-) Will they be able to boot and install from the 9.2 I would love to get these machines runing on Linux and Mandrake Since i already have a couple of x86 doing that ! I heard that 9.1 would boot and install on a RS/6000, but I couldn't manage to do it. Did you try? Anyway, I would also like to have Linux on my good old 43P-150 :-) I guess we can share impressions and ideas when the time to test arrives. -- _ |!rs Tirs Abril i Sanz e-Commerce Dept. Management System Solutions Galileo, 303, Atic 08028 - Barcelona (Spain) Tf: (+34) 934 196 343 Fax: (+34) 934 196 561 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I reconfigure network settings?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Generation NeXT wrote: Hi, I'm desperately trying to get stuff to work. I am relatively new to Linux, and Mandrake is highly recommended. So I installed Mandrake 9.1. I'm not able to configure my networking setup. I try the netconf from the KDE Start Applications menu, and it says I need root. I then tried to setup a log in for root through KDE, but couldn't figure it out (also heard this wasn't recommended). I then noticed that netconf uses linuxconf, so I went to the terminal, and typed in linuxconf and got the following: --- Error message from remadmin :Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Error message from remadmin :Xlib: No protocol specified Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 --- (1) So, how do I launch linuxconf? (2) Why doesn't launching linuxconf work? (3) How can I configure the network from the command line? - Joaquin mcc or drakconf is the solution we're really trying to point people to for gui configuration. linuxconf has been moved to contribs. drakconnect is the subsystem of drakconf for networking accessible either from the command line as root (or /usr/sbin/drakconnect as a normal user). This is also available within the mcc/drakconf gui. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: your mail
A Dimecres 19 Novembre 2003 15:42, Stew Benedict va escriure: 9.1 was tested and mostly built on an RS6000 43P-150. Hum... maybe I should try again when I get some spare time again. I tried to install 9.1 for a short while but unfortunately I couldn't dedicate all the necessary time to it (well, actually I prefer to say fortunately, since the reason is that I am getting married in two weeks!) There is no official 9.2 PPC. Well, I was actually thinking about cooker. I expected some unofficial 9.2 PPC to come up, but now you tell me that it might be a mix of 9.2/10.0/whatever. Well, as Deng Hsiao Ping said, it doesn't matter whether the cat is black or white as long as it chases mice. Thanks for your answer! -- _ |!rs Tirs Abril i Sanz e-Commerce Dept. Management System Solutions Galileo, 303, Atic 08028 - Barcelona (Spain) Tf: (+34) 934 196 343 Fax: (+34) 934 196 561 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cooker dependencies
Hello,
I'm trying to upgrade my ibook 2.2 from 9.1 to cooker using urpmi
(urpmi urpmi and urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm) and most of the
system got upgraded after manually desinstalling some conflicting
packages with urpme but I can't get the draktools back :
quote
# urpmi drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc
Certains paquetages demandés ne peuvent pas être installés :
drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc (perl-GTK2[= 0.0.cvs.2003.04.04.1] non satisfait)
/quote
However I have the following version installed on my system :
perl-Gtk2-0.26.cvs.2003.07.07.1-1mdk
Is it a problem with with capitalized letters in the perl-GTK2 package
name ?
How to solve this problem ?
Thanks,
Olivier
PS: Here are my urpmi sources :
plf http://mirrors.zoreil.com/www.plf.org/mandrake/cooker {
hdlist: hdlist.plf.cz
with_hdlist: hdlist.cz
list: list.plf
}
main ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.main.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
}
contrib ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/contrib/ppc {
hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
with_hdlist: ../../cooker/ppc/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
}
Re: Cooker dependencies
Hi,
I don't know what your problem is, but i was wondering, about ppc cooker:
i have installed mandrake 9.1 on my imac and pc. Then i have updated them,
from 9.1 to cooker.
Since that day, i update my systems (pc and ppc) daily and i can say that if
the i586 cooker version is moving fast (there is a lot of new packages
daily), the ppc version is far behind. For an example: impossible to update
kde, since there is no new kde binary packages for a very long time...
So my question is: is ppc cooker abandonned and how many cookers are working
on it?
Regards,
Gaetan.
Le Mercredi 19 Novembre 2003 16:44, Olivier Grisel a écrit :
Hello,
I'm trying to upgrade my ibook 2.2 from 9.1 to cooker using urpmi
(urpmi urpmi and urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm) and most of the
system got upgraded after manually desinstalling some conflicting
packages with urpme but I can't get the draktools back :
quote
# urpmi drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc
Certains paquetages demandés ne peuvent pas être installés :
drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc (perl-GTK2[= 0.0.cvs.2003.04.04.1] non
satisfait) /quote
However I have the following version installed on my system :
perl-Gtk2-0.26.cvs.2003.07.07.1-1mdk
Is it a problem with with capitalized letters in the perl-GTK2 package
name ?
How to solve this problem ?
Thanks,
Olivier
PS: Here are my urpmi sources :
plf http://mirrors.zoreil.com/www.plf.org/mandrake/cooker {
hdlist: hdlist.plf.cz
with_hdlist: hdlist.cz
list: list.plf
}
main ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.main.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
}
contrib ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/contrib/ppc {
hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
with_hdlist: ../../cooker/ppc/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
}
Re: Cooker dependencies
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, [iso-8859-1] Gaétan QUENTIN wrote: Hi, I don't know what your problem is, but i was wondering, about ppc cooker: i have installed mandrake 9.1 on my imac and pc. Then i have updated them, from 9.1 to cooker. Since that day, i update my systems (pc and ppc) daily and i can say that if the i586 cooker version is moving fast (there is a lot of new packages daily), the ppc version is far behind. For an example: impossible to update kde, since there is no new kde binary packages for a very long time... So my question is: is ppc cooker abandonned and how many cookers are working on it? Cooker-ppc is a community/volunteer effort. Currently there is one person, I believe, building the packages, and the lag behind x86 is partically just physics. x86 packages are built on a multi-machine cluster in Paris, which builds many times faster than the single machines that I was using when I was doing the official builds. Complicating this is when there are rapid-fire releases of large packages, say kde* in one day. You might be in the middle of one build and another comes out before you even finish it. There have been occasions where I've had to kill these builds 3 or 4 times and blown a whole day of machine time with no packages built. So, no, it's not abandoned, but it doesn't have the same level of resources committed to it as the official platforms. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cooker dependencies
Go Stew, Give me till May-June, at that time I will hopefully be in a position to help with the builds (PPC cluster time). till then, good luck and keep it up Ray On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 12:35, Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, [iso-8859-1] Gaétan QUENTIN wrote: Hi, I don't know what your problem is, but i was wondering, about ppc cooker: i have installed mandrake 9.1 on my imac and pc. Then i have updated them, from 9.1 to cooker. Since that day, i update my systems (pc and ppc) daily and i can say that if the i586 cooker version is moving fast (there is a lot of new packages daily), the ppc version is far behind. For an example: impossible to update kde, since there is no new kde binary packages for a very long time... So my question is: is ppc cooker abandonned and how many cookers are working on it? Cooker-ppc is a community/volunteer effort. Currently there is one person, I believe, building the packages, and the lag behind x86 is partically just physics. x86 packages are built on a multi-machine cluster in Paris, which builds many times faster than the single machines that I was using when I was doing the official builds. Complicating this is when there are rapid-fire releases of large packages, say kde* in one day. You might be in the middle of one build and another comes out before you even finish it. There have been occasions where I've had to kill these builds 3 or 4 times and blown a whole day of machine time with no packages built. So, no, it's not abandoned, but it doesn't have the same level of resources committed to it as the official platforms.
Re: Cooker dependencies
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Ray Auge wrote: Go Stew, Give me till May-June, at that time I will hopefully be in a position to help with the builds (PPC cluster time). till then, good luck and keep it up Thanks, But the one person I was referring to isn't me. All I've done aside from support here is the brief cooker HOWTO/Status I did a few weeks back, as well as packaging a 2.6benh kernel, available on my webspace. More/faster hardware would certainly help, but you need to coordinate your effort with those already doing the work, as well as get blessing/access to be able to upload packages through the Paris cluster. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cooker dependencies
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Olivier Grisel wrote: Hello, I'm trying to upgrade my ibook 2.2 from 9.1 to cooker using urpmi (urpmi urpmi and urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm) and most of the system got upgraded after manually desinstalling some conflicting packages with urpme but I can't get the draktools back : quote # urpmi drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc Certains paquetages demandés ne peuvent pas être installés : drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc (perl-GTK2[= 0.0.cvs.2003.04.04.1] non satisfait) /quote However I have the following version installed on my system : perl-Gtk2-0.26.cvs.2003.07.07.1-1mdk Is it a problem with with capitalized letters in the perl-GTK2 package name ? How to solve this problem ? They aren't the same package. The perl-gtk2 api changed. I wrote a summary of my cooker-ppc experience abotu a month ago and posted packages I found to be lacking here: http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/ The summary in in this list's archives, as well as the PPC forum on mandrakeclub. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cooker dependencies
Stew Benedict wrote: They aren't the same package. The perl-gtk2 api changed. I wrote a summary of my cooker-ppc experience abotu a month ago and posted packages I found to be lacking here: http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/ The summary in in this list's archives, as well as the PPC forum on mandrakeclub. Thanks for the hint and the packages. I'll let you know about the result of my migration to cooker. Regards, Olivier
Re: Cooker dependencies
Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Ray Auge wrote: Thanks, But the one person I was referring to isn't me. All I've done aside from support here is the brief cooker HOWTO/Status I did a few weeks back, as well as packaging a 2.6benh kernel, available on my webspace. More/faster hardware would certainly help, but you need to coordinate your effort with those already doing the work, as well as get blessing/access to be able to upload packages through the Paris cluster. If you lack computing power wouldn't it be possible to write some scripts to download cooker SRPMs, build ppc-RPMs and upload them back on a repository automatically. Volunteers could launch the script on their idle cooker-ppc machines and that way easily contribute to the cooker-ppc effort. Best, Olivier
Re: Cooker dependencies
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Olivier Grisel wrote: If you lack computing power wouldn't it be possible to write some scripts to download cooker SRPMs, build ppc-RPMs and upload them back on a repository automatically. Volunteers could launch the script on their idle cooker-ppc machines and that way easily contribute to the cooker-ppc effort. Sure, We just need to: 1) Manage the work, so folks aren't duplicating the work, and make sure package B gets built after package A, etc. 2) Have some system of trust/control so the folks using the stuff can have some degree of confidence that what they're downloading is in fact what it represents itself to be. Possibly some other issues I haven't thought of. I think spreading the build too thin across machines would tend the aggravate any build sequencing issues, unless everyone involved stayed in very close sync with each other. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cooker dependencies
It's not the respond that you would like but I started to build for
myself from the SRPMS (mainly gnome specific) when I find that my iboolk
lag too much from my i586.
I understood long ago that there is only one machine that try to keep
ppc in sync at mandrake and we just have to be patient around
freeze-release since the proprio must also work on other stuff (that
brings more $$$, ie i586). That's fine with me.
The ppc freeze (...) should be over soon. There is always SRPMS anyway.
Pascal
Le mer 19/11/2003 à 12:02, Gaétan QUENTIN a écrit :
Hi,
I don't know what your problem is, but i was wondering, about ppc cooker:
i have installed mandrake 9.1 on my imac and pc. Then i have updated them,
from 9.1 to cooker.
Since that day, i update my systems (pc and ppc) daily and i can say that if
the i586 cooker version is moving fast (there is a lot of new packages
daily), the ppc version is far behind. For an example: impossible to update
kde, since there is no new kde binary packages for a very long time...
So my question is: is ppc cooker abandonned and how many cookers are working
on it?
Regards,
Gaetan.
Le Mercredi 19 Novembre 2003 16:44, Olivier Grisel a écrit :
Hello,
I'm trying to upgrade my ibook 2.2 from 9.1 to cooker using urpmi
(urpmi urpmi and urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm) and most of the
system got upgraded after manually desinstalling some conflicting
packages with urpme but I can't get the draktools back :
quote
# urpmi drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc
Certains paquetages demandés ne peuvent pas être installés :
drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc (perl-GTK2[= 0.0.cvs.2003.04.04.1] non
satisfait) /quote
However I have the following version installed on my system :
perl-Gtk2-0.26.cvs.2003.07.07.1-1mdk
Is it a problem with with capitalized letters in the perl-GTK2 package
name ?
How to solve this problem ?
Thanks,
Olivier
PS: Here are my urpmi sources :
plf http://mirrors.zoreil.com/www.plf.org/mandrake/cooker {
hdlist: hdlist.plf.cz
with_hdlist: hdlist.cz
list: list.plf
}
main ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.main.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
}
contrib ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/contrib/ppc {
hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
with_hdlist: ../../cooker/ppc/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
}
