[CTRL] (Fwd) International Environment and Development Prize SOPHIE a
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:27:37 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: " [EMAIL PROTECTED]" " ewertverlag"@t-online.de Subject:International Environment and Development Prize SOPHIE awarded From: Maju Varghese (For WFF) Thomas Kocherry along with Herman Daly was awarded the International environment and development prize the Sophie prize yesterday at a meeting held at University of Oslo, Assembly hall, Norway. I am enclosing the speech made by Mr Kocherry on that occasion. Speech of Thomas Kocherry on the occasion of the prize ceremony of the Sophie Foundation June 15, 1999, Oslo, Norway. Dear chairperson and friends, First of all I want to thank the Sophie Foundation for honouring me with the Sophie Prize. In particular I thank Jostein Gaarder for creating the Foundation for honouring such ventures to recognise and to encourage re-imaging a world where every human being is equal in opportunities; without discrimination on the basis of caste, class, creed, religion or gender. Please accept my heartfelt thanks. Today we are in the context of GLOBALIZATION - LIBERALIZATION. The words look very attractive, but the vast majority of the people, are the victims of Globalisation. Globalisation began with COLONIALISM. In the sixteenth century Europe was overpopulated and the people began to migrate from Europe to other continents as if they were discovering new places. It ended up with conquering other places and people. Sword and Cross went together. They forcefully enslaved and converted natives and indigenous peoples. They conquered lands, exploited the resources and accumulated wealth. In the 20th century, the world witnessed the uprising of peoples for political freedom. However economic exploitation continued through Multi-National Corporations (MNCs) and Trans-National Corporations (TNCs). But the rich and the ruling class of the newly freed 3rd world countries generally sided with the MNCs for their own advantage, against the interest of the common people. Again the natives and the indigenous peoples were the worst hit. As a result, according to a UN study, today the 20% Northern minority of humankind has: 82.7% of world gross national product 81.2% of world trade 94.6% of all commercial lending 80.5% of all domestic investment 80.6% of all domestic savings 94.0% of all research and development It is in this context that we should understand GLOBALIZATION today. Those who have more are bound to get more. This means more accumulation and centralisation. The Northern 20% people are better placed to take away even the 10-20% of the wealth in the hands of 80% people in the South. The real Centre is G8 countries and of course the USA is the real centre of the centre. They are wielding POWER of WEALTH and ARMS. They are placed in a better position for quick profit at the expense of the vast majority of people and the environment. All the rest are in the periphery. Thus, PHERIPHERALIZATION of the vast MAJORITY is the other side of Globalisation. In the period following de-colonisation and political independence of the Third World (South) countries particularly after world war II, the international relationships among the countries at bilateral and multilateral levels were considered very important and viewed as mutually beneficial. This language and practice seems to be in the wane today. The Northern MNCs want to take over the control of UN. If the UN does not dance according to their tune they will not give their share. They are more interested in strengthening the WTO than the UN. They talk of DEMOCRACY and HUMAN RIGHTS but they have NO CONCERN FOR PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH. Market economy determines everything, there is no other value in life. MONEY HAS MORE VALUE THAN PEOPLE OF THE SOUTH. The UN has become a weak instrument. Globalisation is beneficial to those who have. All those who are have-nots are the victims. Globalisation is a mechanistic process (and therefore most easily manipulatable by the wielders of power) in the face of which there is no choice and alternative. This is the most insidious aspect of this ideology: that it could present itself as the only possible way of being. It creates a certain sense of inevitability and absoluteness. Outside Globalisation-and Market Economy, there is no salvation. Let me show how this is true as regards the fisheries sector. In the 1990s fishing reached the point of diminishing returns. Many fish populations have fallen to levels from which they can no longer recover without significant reductions in the catches or a moratorium on fishing. There are simply too many boats catching too many fish. The first surge in numbers of fishing vessels occurred during the industrial revolution. This upwell tapered off during the two world wars, but boomed again in the 1950s through
[CTRL] THE DAVIDIAN MASSACRE [a re-post for List newbies]caution:horrifyinggraphics!
-Caveat Lector- "If every person has the right to defend - even by force - his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly." --- THE LAW, by Frederic Bastiat --- IN MEMORY: This page is dedicated to the 82 men, women and children killed by federal agents outside of Waco, Texas in 1993. http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/davidian-massacre.html Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum, Founded April 19, 1996 http://www.monumental.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/ ``All that is necessary for the forces of evil to prevail in the world is for enough good men to do nothing.'' --- British statesman Edmund Burke -- Sir Rudyard's reasoned rhymes still rule in America. If Kipling were now in the Colonies, he might add these verses to his classic: When Billy was of draft age, Southeast Asia was the cause; Tho' Uncle called, he ducked it without a moment's pause. Now 'e's safe within the White House, the artful dodger yet, Impeachment proof an' O so brave, when Kosovo's the bet. For it's Tommy this an' Tommy that, but when Billy needs a boost, 'E throws Tommy to the lions, to keep the chickens off the roost. An' it's Tommy this an' Tommy that an' any war's OK As long as it's not Billy boy they're chuckin' in harm's way. --- From the heart of a vet, J.D. Wetterling - "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." --- Dr. Seuss - "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." --- George Washington Folks, Never forget WACO! (remember it when you vote 2000!) Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [SonsofLiberty] [Fwd: [ssol] Every Patriot need to visit this site to be counted.. It's ur 2nd amendment]
IMPORTANT E-MAIL CAMPAIGN FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE 2ND AMENDMENT! === PASS FAR AND WIDE!!! Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -Original Message- From: Wstwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 2:20 AM To: Carl Worden Subject: [SonsofLiberty] [Fwd: [ssol] Every Patriot need to visit this site to be counted.. It's ur 2nd amendment] Pass this to everyone you know, AFTER you visit the page. Thanks. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This individual is trying to get one million hits on his web page within 100 days. He is then going to send the address to some legislators to show there are people interested in continuing to own guns. Just go to his web site to show a hit. http://home.talkcity.com/ArenaBlvd/mar_1/fight_4_2_amnd_rites.html --- ONElist Sponsor Find people who care about what you care about. http://www.onelist.com At ONElist: your connection to community. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent." - Claire Wolfe, 101 Things To Do 'Til The Revolution
Re: [CTRL] Son of Sam
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Yardbird wrote: I think David Berkowitz has taken to claiming he was involved in a widespread Satanic cult (The Process?) where he was merely the patsy set up to take the fall and that the NYPD allegedly suppressed evidence incriminatory of other participants in their eagerness to close the case. They aren't just empty claims...the NYPD admitted about two years ago they ignored and suppressed evidence that more than one person was involved in the shootings. Evidence given by survivors and eyewitnesses describe a variety of 'perps' who look very different from Berkowitz... I forget the names of Berkowitz's next door neighbors, but the family had two brothers who were friends with Berkowitz, and some of the descriptions of survivors/witnesses fit what these two guys looked like... Both brothers subsequently died under very mysterious circumstances a few years after Berkowitz's arrest and imprisonment... These 2 brothers' father was named Sam, and it was his dog that Berkowitz claimed told him to do the killings... Some of the evidence points to more people being involved, especially people who had money and influence...hence, they probably were instrumental in getting the case closed as soon as Berkowitz was arrested... There is some circumstantial evidence to suggest that Berkowitz WAS set up as a 'patsy', the designated fall guy... The only reason he started talking in recent years is that he claims that all those who were DIRECTLY involved in the killings have since died themselves...leaving open the possibility that some of those who were peripherally involved may still be alive... Berkowitz has now become a born-again Christian, and seems concerned with what will finally become of his immortal soul...and so, he's become more chatty about what went on back then, than he was when first incarcerated... Also, apparantly most of his close relatives have since died, and he no longer fears retribution taken out against his relatives for his revealing of secrets... I was in my 20s that summer, and I remember how fearful me and my friends were that summer, even here in southern CT, since we often went 'down the line' to discos right over the border in NY state, and these killings were a little too close to home...only time I seriously considered dying my hair blonde... And I remember we all just 'knew' that these killings were not just some 'lone nut', but part of some group, whether satanic or otherwise...I don't know HOW we 'knew', it was just a 'given' with us... June ;-) *===* Kite So many things you want to see And as you ask I'll set you free But as you fly You'll touch the sky And touch the heart Within me Fly away. -- Bob Childs *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Son of Sam
-Caveat Lector- Hi Another thing is to remember that being parked on one of the streets 2 nights before "he" killed his last victim(s) and if I remember correctly it was within a hundred foot area. I and a couple of friends were there 2 nights before. Talk about "concidences". Was I ever glad I didn't live there at the time but further up north. Lynnewho is glad it wasn't me DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Martial Law rumors, and one gun store owner
-Caveat Lector- -- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:39:12 -0700 From Jim Subject: Martial Law rumors, and one gun store owner The following item appeared this morning on the J. Orlin Grabbe web site at: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ This site has consistently been a reliable source of accurate and important news items from both well-known "mainstream" and obscure "alternative" sources. I was a little surprised to find this item there. I figured if Grabbe placed enough credence in this information to use it on his site, then it was worth sending to you. Jim -- Preparations for Martial Law From: Tim May Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000, misc.survivalism Subject: Martial Law rumors, and one gun store owner I was in looking at assault rifles today at one of my local gun stores (looking at an FAL parts gun, comparing it the HK91 parts/clone gun I bought a week ago). I got to talking to the owner, and Y2K came up. His store is in an area with several DOD installations and he has many customers who are either active military or retired military. And some CIA spooks. I once met one of the CIA spooks in the storewe had been jawboning about which of the 50 BMG rifles was best, the Barrett or one of the several others, for ultra-long-range sniping. Then the store owner casually mentioned that "Fred" had been in the CIA. Out on a medical disability, and living in the Monterey area. (The area is in the Monterey-Pacific Grove-Carmel area. The DOD installations include: The Naval Postgraduate School, the Fort Ord base (now being closed), the Defense Language Institute, and some Navy undersea warfare think tanks. Also, some CIA-affiliated think tanks (suspected: Monterey Institute for International Studies). CIA spooks visit the area, and his store, for various reasons. I surmise that he supplies some of the folks down at Camp Roberts and Camp Hunter Liggett. Viewers of some Tom Clancy movies will recognize this is where snipers and special forces get training.) Here's the bombshell: He told me that "more than one" of his best longterm customers, with affiliations to these aforementioned groups, have told him of a plan for a "quick response" imposition of martial law. "72 hours." The date he heard from some of them was December 1st. To disburse the troops and have martial law in place in 72 hours. By December 4th, in other words. The idea for the timing, presumably, being that it will be clear by then just how many nations, companies, and agencies are not going to be ready. And enough time for the soldiers to integrate with the rail and utility distributions, perhaps for ration coupon books to be printed and available by January 1st, etc. All those things the Naval War College seminars were running scenarios about. (Links between Naval Postgraduate School and Naval War College? Presumably. Whether they are significant links is for researchers out there to look into. Would be interesting to see if NPS folks were at the NWC seminars, and vice versa. And I'm not saying Monterey and the NPS is somehow the epicenter of martial law planning for Y2K...the actual centers are presumably in or near Washington, D.C. But links are still interesting.) He didn't say his sources _knew_ that martial law was going to be implemented, but that the sources had seen plans for possible implementation. Now this could just be the usual rumor mill process. But to lend some plausibility to this tidbit, this area is a hotbed of certain kinds of counterinsurgency warfare (Fort Ord had been a major center of this, now moved up to Washington State somewhere--Fort Lewis, I think. But many of the staffers remained or retired in the Monterey-Carmel-Pebble Beach area, and they hear things. And the think tanks are where such plans are often formulated and "gamed." Monterey, perhaps not coincidentally, was one of the sights for that recent "urban assault" exercise which got so much attention a couple of months ago. (Soldiers rolling down the city streets in Bradley Fighting Vehicles, being mock-fought by urban guerillas who looked suspicially like militia members defending their communtiies. Coincidence? The planners are here. The exercise was here.) This guy, owning one of the main gun stores in the whole area, comes into contact with a lot of them. Take it as you will. By the way, this guy had some experiences to tell of past civil disturbances. He was a young gun store clerk in Stockton, CA when the 1967 Watts riots in L.A. erupted. Pockets of rioting had also appeared in other cities, including Stockton, in the Central Valley. (Stockton now has a serious gang problem, and many murders each year.) The local cops lent him a Thompson submachine gun! My, how things have changed. He knew how to use one, for various reasons. He never had to use it, but he slept in the store with that Thompson nearby. A couple of years later, in some other riots, the cops lent
Re: [CTRL] Who's better Bush or Gore. WAS:[CTRL] algore - ..raci...
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bush is definitely Antichrist material (whether in the religious or political sense, both are true). Gore is a lackey. Which is better, which is worse? What do you think? Wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have to choose between these two? Prudy Very true, but we are definitely NOT the ones who decide who is going to go up for the job. That's a cop-out. You ARE responsible. If you don't like the 'anointed candidates then pick a party and WORK for an alter- native. Bush-ido and al-Gor may have endorsements and cash, but neither has any delegates yet, and primaries are unruly affairs. Numerous 'leading' candidates have fallen by the wayside in the last few decades. Think, Gary Hart. Bush-ido is particularly vulnerable - spread the word about his now-imprisoned pimp/pusher and his endorsements may evaporate. If you think Pat's the man, then WORK hard to convince the electorate that he's needed. If you're a Demo who can't stomach al-Gor, bust your ass for Bradley. Every event is the product of the sum-over-time of all preceding events; ie, everything we do, shapes the future. If you're active politically, you may or may not prevail, but at least you'll have shaped the outcome; if you remain politically inactive, someone ELSE does that shaping for you. Are you part of the conspiracy of lethargy? Fine - gimmee that ballot, I'll cast if FOR you. Ric "vote early, vote often" Carter DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who's better Bush or Gore. WAS:[CTRL] algore - ..raci...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/27/99 9:24:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's a cop-out. You ARE responsible. If you don't like the 'anointed candidates then pick a party and WORK for an alter- native. Bush-ido and al-Gor may have endorsements and cash, but neither has any delegates yet, and primaries are unruly affairs. Numerous 'leading' candidates have fallen by the wayside in the last few decades. Think, Gary Hart. Bush-ido is particularly vulnerable - spread the word about his now-imprisoned pimp/pusher and his endorsements may evaporate. If you think Pat's the man, then WORK hard to convince the electorate that he's needed. If you're a Demo who can't stomach al-Gor, bust your ass for Bradley. Every event is the product of the sum-over-time of all preceding events; ie, everything we do, shapes the future. If you're active politically, you may or may not prevail, but at least you'll have shaped the outcome; if you remain politically inactive, someone ELSE does that shaping for you. Are you part of the conspiracy of lethargy? Fine - gimmee that ballot, I'll cast if FOR you. Ric "vote early, vote often" Carter You may feel it is a cop out, but it is not. Yes, we do have the "right" to vote, and we do supposedly decide who runs for, and who wins public office, but those rights are in name only and have no real force. There is a conspiracy here and it involves inuring in us a sense of lethargy because it is what is desired. All of our decisions made for us, and we don't care, in fact we will eventually come to prefer it that way. The fact remains that in the system that we now live in there is little hope of getting anyone other than the front-runners put into office. We have manipulated polls which influence voting (or not voting), we have the media which floods us with images and (dis-?)information and a system which virtually assures us of the "chosen" people getting into the spotlight and the anointed one gaining that office. If it ever does happen that one of the peripheral candidates who really is good for the country and the people ever did get into the running there is always vote fraud (remember Votescam?) and unfortunate "accidents" or embarrassing accusations that suddenly "turn up" (like Gary Hart). The media deliberately suppresses the bad about the "chosen one" and touts all the foibles of the others. By all means vote, and try and do what is right for you, but let's be realistic here and accept the fact that there is next to no hope of anything changing. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who's better Bush or Gore. WAS:[CTRL] algore - ..raci...
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED] but let's be realistic here and accept the fact that there is next to no hope of anything changing. Teo1000 Race you the oven, eh? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Inside Bohemian Grove
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fair.org/extra/best-of-extra/bohemian-grove.html Extra! November/December 1991 Inside Bohemian Grove: The Story People Magazine Won't Let You Read EXTRA! (Nov./Dec. '91), Best of EXTRA! When Dirk Mathison, San Francisco bureau chief for People magazine, infiltrated the exclusive Bohemian Grove retreat this summer, he got a view into the U.S. elite that very few reporters have glimpsed. Unfortunately, that elite includes the management of Time Warner, the owner of People, which prevented Mathison from telling his story. Bohemian Grove, a secluded campground in California's Sonoma County, is the site of an annual two-week gathering of a highly select, all-male club, whose members have included every Republican president since Calvin Coolidge. Current participants include George Bush, Henry Kissinger, James Baker and David Rockefeller -- a virtual who's who of the most powerful men in business and government. Few journalists have gotten into the Grove and been allowed to tell the tale (one exception is Philip Weiss, whose 11/89 Spy piece provides the most detailed inside account), and members maintain that the goings-on there are not newsworthy events, merely private fun. In fact, official business is conducted there: Policy speeches are regularly made by members and guests, and the club privately boasts that the Manhattan Project was conceived on its grounds. Given the veil of secrecy that surrounds the Bohemian "encampment," a reporter needs to enter the grounds covertly in order to get a full portrait. Mathison entered the grounds three times July 1991, aided by activists from the Bohemian Grove Action Network. He witnessed a speech -- "Smart Weapons" -- by former Navy Secretary John Lehman, who stated that the Pentagon estimates that 200,000 Iraqis were killed by the U.S. and its allies during the Gulf War. Other featured speakers included Defense Secretary Richard Cheney on "Major Defense Problems of the 21st Century", former Health, Education and Welfare Secretary Joseph Califano on "America's Health Revolution -- Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Pays", and former Attorney General Elliott Richardson on "Defining the New World Order". Mathison's entree into the secret world of the Grove was cut short on July 20, however, when he was recognized by two of the participants in the festivities -- executives from Time Warner, People's publisher. More loyal to the Grove than to journalistic endeavor, they had the reporter removed from the premises (San Francisco Weekly, 8/7/91). Mathison already had plenty of material, however, and turned in an article to his editors, which was scheduled to appear in the Aug. 5, 1991 issue. They were pleased with the piece, according to Mathison: "They liked it enough to expand it a bit," he told EXTRA! But then the story was suddenly killed. Landon Jones, managing editor of People, told EXTRA! that the decision had nothing to do with the Time Warner executives. "It was cut partially because he hadn't been there long enough to get a complete story. Secondly, we felt very uncertain about reporting what we did have, because, and this is my fault and I take responsibility for this, I simply didn't realize it was technically trespassing." For his part, Mathison said he did not know why the story was killed, and implied it would be nearly impossible to find the real reason. "It's easier to penetrate the Bohemian Grove than the Time-Life Building," he told EXTRA! But the story raises questions about the ability of a media entity to report critically on an elite when its executives are enthusiastic members of that elite. Indeed, the Time organization was noted for sending a corporate plane to the Bohemian gathering every year, according to long-time Grove-watcher Kerry Richardson. Time Warner is not the only media corporation with Bohemian connections. The list of Fourth Estate bigwigs who have been members or guests is extensive: Franklin Murphy, the former CEO of the Times Mirror corporation; William Randolph Hearst, Jr.; Jack Howard and Charles Scripps of the Scripps-Howard newspaper chain; Tom Johnson, president of CNN and former publisher of the Los Angeles Times. When Associated Press president Louis Boccardi spoke at one of the Grove's "Lakeside Talks" about kidnapped reporter Terry Anderson (Spy, 11/89), he referred to his audience as men of "power and rank" and "gave them more details than he said he was willing to give his readers." Walter Cronkite, now on the CBS board, hangs out at the same lodge at Bohemian Grove as George Bush and the former chairs of Procter Gamble and Bank of America; Cronkite's voice has served as the voice of the Owl of Bohemia, a fixture in the club's mock-druidic rituals. The media figures attending the retreat all agree not to report on what goes on inside. The prohibition seems to apply to reporters who are not guests or members as well: In 1982, NPR got a recording of Henry Kissinger's speech at the Grove
Re: [CTRL] Fw: SNET: Quotations About Jews By the Jews Themselves -
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 4:48 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: SNET: Quotations About Jews By the Jews Themselves - QUOTES TO ENHANCE TOLERANCE AND UNDERSTANDING snipola Ah, not just the usual brain-diseased(*) Nazi crap, inappropriate to this list, but formatted in bright colors so we can't help but notice! Now, if you want a REAL race/religion conspiracy theory, just take a look at the Indo-Aryans, who've conquered/displaced/slaughtered the original inhabitants of south-central Asia, Europe, the Mediterranean basin, the Americas and Oceania, bringing with them their pernicious father-sky-god-trinity religions, devastating the Earth wherever they go. They make the allegations against Jews look positively petty. Of course, if those father-sky-god religions are RIGHT, then humans were planted here by extraterrestrials, and we're all just part of some interstellar power-play. What kind of pawn are you? D'ya care? (*) "Anti-semitism is a brain disease." --F. Nietzche DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bohemian Club
-Caveat Lector- http://www.4rie.com/rie%207.html Bohemian Club The August 2, 1982 edition of Newsweek magazine reported: "... the world's most prestigious summer camp - the Bohemian Grove - is now in session 75 miles north of San Francisco. The fiercely guarded, 2,700-acre retreat is the country extension of San Francisco's all-male ultra-exclusive Bohemian Club to which every Republican President since Herbert Hoover has belonged. With its high-powered clientele, coveted privacy and cabalistic rituals, the Bohemian Grove has prompted considerable suspicion. ... The most important events, however are the "lakeside talks" (past orators: Alexander Hague and Casper Weinberger). This year's speaker was Henry Kissinger on The Challenge of the '80s." Maclean's magazine, March 23, 1981 reported: "Each summer, for three weekends - this year's will be the 103rd - nearly 2,000 Bohemians, with guests in tow, speed in by car and corporate jet to their guarded Grove, close by the hamlet of Monte Rio (population 1,200) on the Russian River. The Grove's Shakespearean motto, "Weaving spiders come not here," is an injunction to forget wheeling and dealing which is widely ignored. While 'ruling-class cohesiveness' rarely lets slip details of accommodations arrived at there, some - such as the 1967 agreement by Ronald Reagan, over a drink with Richard Nixon, to stay out of the coming presidential race - have helped mold America's destiny. ... Oddly enough, reporters are barred from this club, formed one night in 1872 by five bored news hawks on the old San Francisco Examiner to promote good fellowship (i.e., booze-ups) and 'to help elevate journalism to that place in the popular estimation to which it is entitled.' That aspiration went down the drain when membership was extended to show people, and by 1878, the year of the first Grove-fest, the journalist were already on their way out. Today, a prospective member faces an interrogation that, according to one club man, 'would satisfy the KGB.' There is a waiting list of 1,500 notables, all eager to pay the $2,500 initiation fee and $600-a-year dues. Mother Jones, August 1981 volume 6 page 28, reported a partial list of some of the prominent members: "George P. Shultz, Stephen Bechtel, Jr., Gerald R. Ford, Henry Kissinger, William F. Buckley, Jr., Fred L. Hartley, Merv Griffin, Thomas Haywood, Joseph Coors, Edward Teller, Ronald Reagan, A. W. Clausen, George Bush, William French Smith, John E. Swearingten, Casper W. Weinberger, Justin Dart, William E. Simon, and hundreds of other prominent politicos and businessmen." Antony C. Sutton, Editor of an excellent monthly newsletter, Phoenix Letter, stated in the October, 1996 edition: "Up to a few months ago, our knowledge of Bohemian Grove, the exclusive elitist hideaway by supposedly adult wheeler dealers, a.k.a. Washington statesman and prominent people (all male.) We dismissed the behavior as immature, even pitiful by emotionally disturbed juveniles and not worth attention. This is where Kissinger, Ford, Nixon, Bechtel, Bush, Cheney, Hoover and their friends (2600 members) hang out and "relax." And if they want to behave as little boys that is their privilege, it is private property. Recent [O'Brien and Phillips, TRANCE Formation of America (pp 170-1)] information may radically change this perception of Bohemian Grove. Not merely drunkenness, unbounded use of alcohol and drugs with vague homosexual tones (confirmed by our sources) but reported activities much more serious - kidnapping, rape, pedophilia, sodomy, ritual murder. Investigation is blocked under the 1947 National Security Act. (!) And like the Omaha child abuse case, includes illegal detention of children. For decades, there have been vague rumors of weird goings on in Bohemian Grove in more remote parts of its 2200 acres. Reliable reports claim Druidic like rituals, druids in red hooded robes marching in procession and chanting to the Great Owl (Moloch.) A funeral pyre with "corpses." (Scores of men work in the Bohemian Grove as servants so this party is fairly well established.) An article in a local community newspaper, Santa Rosa Sun (1993, July) reported on the Cult of Canaan and the legend of Moloch in place at Bohemian Grove. The Moloch Pagan Cult of Sacrifice is human sacrifice. About the mid 1980s there were rumors of murders in remote parts of the property. A local police investigation went nowhere. State investigators on related criminal acts went nowhere. According to an observer and near victim, who can describe the Bohemian Grove inner hideaways, the closed sanctum, even the decor at secret locations, places where no outsider goes (or servants according to our sources) there is an UNDERGROUND lounge (sign spelled U.N.derground) a Dark Room, a Leather Room and a Necrophilia Room. Here is one of O'Brien's quote "Slaves of advancing age or with failed programming were sacrificially murdered at random in the wooded grounds of Bohemian
Re: [CTRL] [prj] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL!
-Caveat Lector- I think the "greatness" of the U.S. has far more to do with its relatively free market economics... What made America "great" was genocide, slavery and greed. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Secret World of U.S. Communism
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Peter L. Sroufe [EMAIL PROTECTED] What Atty. General Bobby Kennedy supposedly did not know at the time, but the CPUSA did, was that the American Communist party then - and back to its beginnings in 1919 - was bankrolled by the Kremlin. And of course they were spectacularly successful, which is why we all speak Russian now and listen to THE INTERNATIONALE on our MP3 players, eh? Comrades Reagan, Greenspan and Gates were perfect 'plants', eh? Comrades Jobs, Gingrich and Bush might not have done so well, but they were even less obvious in their "deep-cover" positions, eh? Ya sure. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [prj] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL!
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the "greatness" of the U.S. has far more to do with its relatively free market economics... What made America "great" was genocide, slavery and greed. Yup, that old Indo-Aryan Conspiracy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- Tell ya what, Ric, when we can elect our bosses, when we can elect our landlords, when we can hold referendums on the price of bread, then I'll start thinking this place is on its way to becoming a democracy. In the meantime, let's be frank; it's a fascist police state. If you have any doubts, dress in old clothes, leave your money, credit cards and IDs at home and go for a walk at night in a rich neighborhood. The only real democracy is direct democracy. Electoral politics is a scam. We don't choose our leaders. We choose some of their henchmen. Big whoop. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990627a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No mythical creatures were harmed during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ORIGIN OF LIFE. Theorists Predicts Life in Universe is Common, Waiting for Discovery. The hypothesis that life is unique to Earth could prove to be just as implausible as theories of Divine Creation. Researchers say the laws of nature may favor the generation of life throughout the universe. http://www.kalmbach.com:80/astro/news/news/0699Origins.html : If laws of nature favor life, then is lifelessness illegal? Should you be arrested when you die? LIFE - NOT JUST A GOOD IDEA, IT'S THE LAW. Really? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Your Driver License, For Sale? WASHINGTON -- Direct marketing firms are trying to head off federal legislation that would stop state governments from selling drivers license information and photos. YOU are the product: http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20435.html # Uncle Sam Has All Your Numbers. As part of a new and aggressive effort to track down parents who owe child support, the federal gov't has created a vast computerized data-monitoring system that includes all individuals with new jobs and the names, addresses, Social Security numbers and wages of nearly every working adult in the United States. We're watching you: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/daily/june99/privacy27.htm : Do you care that your govt's may acquire and sell vast amounts of your personal data? Should you get royalties? Can info sales replace taxes??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ PROJECT 1947. PROJECT 1947 is a world-wide effort to document the origins of the modern UFO phenomenon. Research for the project has yielded many early-era UFO reports via the FOIA, newspaper articles and contemporary accounts. http://www.project1947.com/ : Do you need-to-know about the "origins of the modern UFO phenomenon? Why? Are you suspicious of anyone collecting such information? Should you be? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Common Genes Form New Family Tree For Animals. MADISON, Wis. Looking deep within the genes of three very different kinds of animals, scientists have found enough molecular evidence to finally fell the animal kingdom's old family tree. Researchers reported the discovery of a common genetic theme that provides powerful new evidence to firmly place nearly all animals -- from mollusks to humans -- on a simplified, three-limbed tree of life. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/06/990625074421.htm : Do creationists exist outside this genetic structure? How far back can you trace your living heritage? Where do alien hybrids fit into this chart? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Jupiter's supersonic winds: Jupiter has many more secrets to reveal. (BBC) Violent winds race around the poles of Jupiter at thousands of kilometres per hour. Such "auroral electrojets" may reach supersonic speeds explain why temperatures in the upper Jovian atmosphere are much higher than exp- ected. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_341000/341782.stm : Do you like a fresh, clean breeze in your face? Are your ancestors from Jupiter? Is Jupiter a good place for skydiving, airboarding, Xtreme sports? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ UFO/abduction reports: http://www.nor.com.au/users/stingray/ http://www.skywatch-international.org http://communities.msn.com/ufo/www.asp @ CORRECTED: TIMOTHY COOPER'S MJ-12 REPORT: http://www.pufori.org/articles/mj12_cooper_mj12_report.htm @ Memory of Water: http://www.weirdtech.com/sci/memoryofwater.html # City on Mars: http://www.anomalous-images.com/mgs/newcity.html @ Hurricane Hunters: http://www.hurricanehunters.com/ @ Pine Bush Vortex: http://members.aol.com/ufocontat/pinebush/ # Physicist Finds Out Why "We Are Stardust..." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/06/990625080416.htm # Weather takes toll on chili plants - holy hot peppers doomed: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560063468-d29 @ ANARCHIST RESOURCES ON THE INTERNET: http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/inter/faq.html http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1931/links.html http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2159/mujeres_mail.html http://www.techplus.com/pperswain/Anarchism.html @ Anarchists Anti-Defamation League http://www.greenspun.com/spam/home.tcl?domain=aadl # TOP U.S. NUCLEAR OFFICIAL QUITS - nuke program shaken by spy allegations: http://cnn.com/US/9906/26/nuclear.resignation.01.reut/index.html # STARR ORDERED TO TURN OVER TRIPP RECORDINGS TO MARYLAND PROSECUTORS: http://cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/06/26/AM-TrippRecordings.ap/ # San Francisco neighborhood fights yuppie invasion: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560063614-9e1 @ Women of the West Museum:
[CTRL] FW: Uncle Sam Has All Your Numbers
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/daily/june99/privacy27.htm Uncle Sam Has All Your Numbers By Robert O'Harrow Jr. Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, June 27, 1999; Page A1 As part of a new and aggressive effort to track down parents who owe child support, the federal government has created a vast computerized data-monitoring system that includes all individuals with new jobs and the names, addresses, Social Security numbers and wages of nearly every working adult in the United States. Government agencies have long gathered personal information for specific reasons, such as collecting taxes. But never before have federal officials had the legal authority and technological ability to locate so many Americans found to be delinquent parents or such potential to keep tabs on Americans accused of nothing. The system was established under a little-known part of the law overhauling welfare three years ago. It calls for all employers to quickly file reports on every person they hire and, quarterly, the wages of every worker. States regularly must report all people seeking unemployment benefits and all child-support cases. Starting next month, the system will reach further. Large banks and other financial institutions will be obligated to search for data about delinquent parents by name on behalf of the government, providing authorities with details about bank accounts, money-market mutual funds and other holdings of those parents. State officials, meanwhile, have sharply expanded the use of Social Security numbers. Congress ordered the officials to obtain the nine-digit numbers when issuing licenses such as drivers', doctors' and outdoorsmen's in order to revoke the licenses of delinquents. Enforcement officials say the coupling of computer technology with details about individuals' employment and financial holdings will give them an unparalleled ability to identify and locate parents who owe child support and, when necessary, withhold money from their paychecks or freeze their financial assets. "They never get away from us anymore. It's just wonderful. . . . What you're trying to do in child support is build a box, four walls, around a person," said Brian Shea, the acting executive director of child-support enforcement in Maryland. "It has in some ways revolutionized this business." But privacy experts and civil libertarians say the scope of the effort raises new questions about the proper line between aggressive public policy and intrusive government snooping. In pursuing an objective that is almost universally applauded, the government has also created something that many Americans have staunchly opposed: a vast pool of fresh personal information that could be used in a variety of ways to monitor their lives. "What you have here is a compilation of information that is much better and more current than any other data system in the U.S.," said Robert Gellman, a lawyer and privacy specialist in the District. "All of the sudden we're on the verge of creating the Holy Grail of data collection, a central file on every American." Already lawmakers, federal agencies and the White House have considered expanding the permitted aims of the system to include cutting down on fraud by government contractors, improving the efficiency of the government and pinpointing debtors, such as students who default on government loans. Under the system, every employer must send information about new hires and quarterly wages to state child-support agencies. State officials gather the data, along with information on unemployment benefits and child-support cases, and then ship it to computers run by the Administration for Children and Families. ACF officials then use computers to sort and send back to state authorities reports about people obligated to pay child support. Government officials say the system is safe, accurate and discreet. They also say it is secure. Because it has, among other safeguards, systems that confirm the accuracy of Social Security numbers, officials say it will not intrude into the lives of most people. An examination of the program, however, shows that government officials have downplayed or overlooked a variety of privacy and security concerns as they worked to meet congressional deadlines. The computer system that houses much of the data at the Social Security Administration "has known weaknesses in the security of its information systems," according to a Dec. 31 report by the General Accounting Office. And authorities have not studied the frequency of mistakes that might arise from incorrect data, even though the system will enable local child-support enforcement officials to routinely freeze a parent's assets without an additional court hearing. Few people know about the system, even though it was created through one of the signature acts of Congress and the Clinton administration the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell ya what, Ric, when we can elect our bosses, when we can elect our landlords, when we can hold referendums on the price of bread, then I'll start thinking this place is on its way to becoming a democracy. In the meantime, let's be frank; it's a fascist police state. Visit Mexico sometime, see a REAL fascist police state, then compare with Canada, US, EC etc. PS: you can 'elect' a landlord by moving. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DNA Ain't You
-Caveat Lector- Interesting, especially in light of the fact that Oregon is on the cutting edge with regard to perhaps even more slippery-slope legislation regarding human euthanasia. It only makes sense that they would pass legislation allowing the corporate mining of human DNA. All this stuff is directly related to the re-emerging paradigm that "the benefits of X to The State outweigh the privacy issues and/or rights of the individual." All very Hitlerian and Platonic, and the philosophy, as well as recent history, are very clear indicators of where it will all end. - Lyn -Original Message- From: AOL User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 10:07 AM Subject: DNA Ain't You In case anyone is interested, there was a bill that just passed the Oregon Senate which defined Human DNA as *NOT* being the property of the person ie: if you live in Oregon then, the Oregon Senate just declared, by signing this bill, that YOUR OWN DNA is not your property. ---snip--- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Execution of two Indian men in Nebraska
-Caveat Lector- There was an article in this Sunday's Washington Post related to this story... a bit of a "whitewash" too... http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-06/27/203l-062799-idx.ht ml NATION IN BRIEF From news services Sunday, June 27, 1999; Page A19 Indian Rally Turns Violent On S. Dakota-Nebraska Border PINE RIDGE, S.D. -- A demonstration by American Indian activists turned violent yesterday as people ransacked a store and set fires in Whiteclay, Neb., threw rocks at police and roughed up two photographers. The four-hour American Indian Movement rally started peacefully in Pine Ridge and ended with a two-mile walk to Whiteclay, where as many as 60 people stormed a market and threw soft drinks, cigarettes and other merchandise onto the street. Two fires were set in the store but were quickly extinguished. Stores in Whiteclay, population 22, sell $3 million worth of beer a year. Most of the sales are to Indians from Pine Ridge, who cannot legally drink on the reservation. Reservation residents have long complained of shoddy treatment from business owners and law enforcement in Whiteclay. At the rally, three of the nation's best-known American Indian activists said they intend to respond to racial tensions along the South Dakota-Nebraska border -- including taking back part of northern Nebraska that is legally part of the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. Russell Means, Dennis Banks and Clyde Bellecourt said the rally was aimed at calling attention to anti-Indian prejudice and racism that they allege have contributed to the unsolved slayings of Indians along the state line. -Original Message- From: Jimmy Boy Dial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 9:20 AM To: A - JIMMY BOY DIAL - HOME Subject: Re: Execution of two Indian men in Nebraska NATIVE AMERICANS EXECUTED - SHERIFF TURNS SELF IN A Sheriff turned himself into the authorities in White Clay Nebraska for the execution of two Oglala Sioux men and is suspected of seven more. ---snip--- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 6/27/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Mark of the Beast Uncle Sam Has All Your Numbers (We're doing it for the children, of course.) As part of a new and aggressive effort to track down parents who owe child support, the federal government has created a vast computerized data-monitoring system that includes all individuals with new jobs and the names, addresses, Social Security numbers and wages of nearly every working adult in the United States. Government agencies have long gathered personal information for specific reasons, such as collecting taxes. But never before have federal officials had the legal authority and technological ability to locate so many Americans found to be delinquent parents or such potential to keep tabs on Americans accused of nothing. The system was established under a little-known part of the law overhauling welfare three years ago. It calls for all employers to quickly file reports on every person they hire and, quarterly, the wages of every worker. States regularly must report all people seeking unemployment benefits and all child-support cases. Starting next month, the system will reach further. Large banks and other financial institutions will be obligated to search for data about delinquent parents by name on behalf of the government, providing authorities with details about bank accounts, money-market mutual funds and other holdings of those parents. State officials, meanwhile, have sharply expanded the use of Social Security numbers. Congress ordered the officials to obtain the nine-digit numbers when issuing licenses such as drivers', doctors' and outdoorsmen's in order to revoke the licenses of delinquents. Enforcement officials say the coupling of computer technology with details about individuals' employment and financial holdings will give them an unparalleled ability to identify and locate parents who owe child support and, when necessary, withhold money from their paychecks or freeze their financial assets. "They never get away from us anymore. It's just wonderful. . . . What you're trying to do in child support is build a box, four walls, around a person," said Brian Shea, the acting executive director of child-support enforcement in Maryland. "It has in some ways revolutionized this business." But privacy experts and civil libertarians say the scope of the effort raises new questions about the proper line between aggressive public policy and intrusive government snooping. In pursuing an objective that is almost universally applauded, the government has also created something that many Americans have staunchly opposed: a vast pool of fresh personal information that could be used in a variety of ways to monitor their lives. "What you have here is a compilation of information that is much better and more current than any other data system in the U.S.," said Robert Gellman, a lawyer and privacy specialist in the District. "All of the sudden we're on the verge of creating the Holy Grail of data collection, a central file on every American." Already lawmakers, federal agencies and the White House have considered expanding the permitted aims of the system to include cutting down on fraud by government contractors, improving the efficiency of the government and pinpointing debtors, such as students who default on government loans. Under the system, every employer must send information about new hires and quarterly wages to state child-support agencies. State officials gather the data, along with information on unemployment benefits and child-support cases, and then ship it to computers run by the Administration for Children and Families. ACF officials then use computers to sort and send back to state authorities reports about people obligated to pay child support. Government officials say the system is safe, accurate and discreet. They also say it is secure. Because it has, among other safeguards, systems that confirm the accuracy of Social Security numbers, officials say it will not intrude into the lives of most people. An examination of the program, however, shows that government officials have downplayed or overlooked a variety of privacy and security concerns as they worked to meet congressional deadlines. The computer system that houses much of the data at the Social Security Administration "has known weaknesses in the security of its information systems," according to a Dec. 31 report by the General Accounting Office. And authorities have not studied the frequency of mistakes that might arise from incorrect data, even though the system will enable local child-support enforcement officials to routinely freeze a parent's assets without an additional court hearing. Few people know about the system, even though it was created through one of the signature acts of Congress and the Clinton administration the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity
[CTRL] Fwd: re: SMART Issue #27
subscriber list, 6/26/99 Hi! Attached please find Issue #27. A home page for Issue #27 should soon be available at: A HREF="http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/index2.html"S.M.A.R.T.'s Ritual Abuse Page /A If you are planning to come to our conference and haven't registered yet, you may want to do so as soon as possible to avoid late registration fees. A HREF="http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/SMART-1999-Conference.htm"Ritual Abuse Conference - 1999 /A or the last page of the attachment. Or or click on the conference link at http://members.aol.com/smartnews/ If you can't make it to the conference, please consider sending a donation to support the conference. The survivors' movement is only as strong as we make it. Please help promote the conference any way you can. We can send you brochures, etc., if you'd like. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Neil Brick S M A R T (Stop Mind control And Ritual abuse Today) P. O Box 1295, Easthampton, MA 01027-1295 USA E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/index2.html 1999 conference information: http://members.aol.com/smartnews/ smart-1999-conference.htm Issue 27 - July 1999 The purpose of this newsletter is to help stop secretive organizations and groups from abusing others and to help those who have been allegedly abused by the Masons, Mormons, government agencies and other secretive groups. This newsletter is not a substitute for other ways of recovering from ritual abuse. Readers should use caution while reading this newsletter. If necessary, make sure other support systems are available during and after reading this newsletter. Important: The resources mentioned in this newsletter are for educational value only. Reading the books cited may or may not help your recovery process, so use caution when reading any book or contacting any resource mentioned in this newsletter. Some may have a religious or other agenda that may be separate from your own recovery process. Others may have valuable information on the Masons and other organizations, but have triggers or be somewhat sympathetic to those organizations. Resources listed, quoted and individual articles, etc. and their writers do not necessarily support all or any of the views mentioned in this newsletter. Also, the views, facts and opinions mentioned in this newsletter are solely the opinions of the authors and are not necessarily the opinions of this newsletter or its editor. Copyright 1999 - All rights reserved. No reproduction of any material without written permission from the editor and individual authors. S.M.A.R.T. conference August 14 - 15, 1999, please register before July 14 to avoid late fees. For details, see page 12. If you can't make it to the conference, please consider sending a donation to support the conference. The survivors' movement is only as strong as we make it. Please help promote the conference any way you can. We can send you brochures, etc. if you'd like. Editor's Page The following article is by Neil Brick, the editor and founder of S.M.A.R.T. V.O.I.C.E.S. Conference 1999 The V.O.I.C.E.S. conference was held in Ft. Lauderdale, FL, May 20 - 23. In S.M.A.R.T. Issue #22, I discussed some of the occurrences of the 1998 V.O.I.C.E.S. in Evanston, IL, including the fact that only half of my presentation was recorded and how I was not allowed to speak at VOICES in San Francisco in 1997. The person choosing the speakers told me that I was not allowed to speak because I talked about (alleged) Masonic ritual abuse. A senior person at VOICES apologized to me and said I should resubmit a proposal for next year (1998). I did and was accepted. Another topic I discussed in 1998 was the rejection of my letter to VOICES' Chorus (a newsletter) responding to a VOICES' Chorus article about Dr. Colin Ross (a member of FMSF). I mentioned that I do not want to divide or weaken the movement, but I wanted to put some light on some of the problems within the movement in a constructive and healthy way. I hope that in the future conference coordinators of all survivor conferences will learn more about mind control and how triggers can be used to hurt survivors, so that survivors will be safer at all conferences. The conference coordinator for the 1999 conference promised me that I would be able to speak at the 1999 conference. I made travel arrangements to the 1999 conference based on this promise. When I saw the schedule for presenters at the 1999 conference, I didn't see my name. After several inquiries, I found out I was not going to be a presenter. The conference coordinator told me that another V.O.I.C.E.S. official was deciding who would be
[CTRL] Wine Alert
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: ProMED-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 11:24 PM Subject: PRO/AH/EDR CJD (new var.), wine alert - France CJD (NEW VARIANT), WINE ALERT - FRANCE *** A ProMED-mail post http://www.healthnet.org/programs/promed.html [see also: CJD - risk from blood 990420233344 CJD (new var.), blood donation restrictions - USA 990605093745 CJD (new var.), blood donation restrictions - USA (02) 990607223230 CJD (new var.), blood donation restrictions - USA (03) 990608225437] Date: 25 June, 1999 Source: The Times, London [edited] French health inspectors have seized more than 100 000 bottles of Rhone Valley wine amid fears it might have been treated with powdered cattle blood, which has been banned in the European Union (EU) since 1997 after concern over mad cow disease. As a government swoop on 14 vineyards in the Vaucluse and Bouches du Rhone region revealed blood could still be being added illegally to wine as a purifying substance. One French table-wine exporter, Jean Pistonier, said millions of bottles of wine containing ox blood could have been exported to Britain in the years after the ban. Blood is traditionally used after vinification to clarify the wine by eliminating resin and suspended particles. The Rhone Valley regional Wine and Spirits Inspection Office said 480lb of purifying products based on cow's blood had been seized, with more than 100 000 bottles of suspect wine between June 7 and 14 [1999] in the region around Avignon. Although the vineyards and wine wholesalers involved were located in areas that carry the renowned Cotes de Provence and Cotes du Rhone AOC or "appellation d'origine controlee" -- the French label guaranteeing quality wines -- three quarters of the impounded wine carried the lower quality VDQS table-wine label. However, the equivalent of 27 000 bottles of an AOC "natural sweet wine" was seized by inspectors. Gerard Bedos, who heads the regional Consumer and Anti-Fraud Office in Marseilles, assured customers yesterday the Cotes du Rhone and Cotes de Provence AOC wines were not involved. The impounded wine is being tested to determine whether it has been treated with ox blood. Dried cow's blood had been used for centuries to purify wine until the European Union banned it as a precautionary measure in November 1997 after scientists found links between bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) and the human brain disorder Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD). Jamie Quiot, head of the National Institute of AOC wines, defended the use of such products. "They are not toxic at all. We only asked for their withdrawal to protect our image," he said. Emmanuel Lerat, of the National Confederation of AOC Wine and Spirits Producers, said the vineyards found using the ox blood were small producers using outdated methods such as egg white to purify wine. Such practices are increasingly being abandoned for more modern and efficient methods, notably using clay-based purifying substances such as bentonite. The affair comes as France has suffered a succession of food scares involving BSE, dioxin-contaminated poultry products from Belgium, and allegations of illness caused by contaminated Coca-Cola products and French unpasteurised cheese. Wine producers now fear they will be next to suffer the economic consequences of customers' fears concerning the safety of their food. -- ProMED-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] tg/jw DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] URGENT APPEAL: 4 Shrimp Farm Protesters Killed In India
-Caveat Lector- From: "World Forum of Fish-harvesters and Fishworkers WFF]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fishworkers Killed in Police Firing in India Fri, 11 Jun 1999 Protest Against the killing of fishworkers in Orissa, India. Four fishworkers, including a women, were killed and 13 injured some of them seriously as police opened fire late at night against the fishworkers who were in their villages after participating in an anti prawn culture agitation organised by Chilika Matsyajibi Mahasangh. The problem in Chilika is going on for some time. There was a strong movement in Chilika which was supported by the National Fishworkers Forum which had earlier resisted the industrial group of TATAS from conducting aquaculture there which destroys both the livelihood of fishworkers and the environment. The Chilika lake (which is the largest Brackish water lake in India) has been occupied by mafias for aquaculture with the support of local politicians and beaurocrats. The Supreme Court of India by their historical judgement against aquaculture has said that there should be no shrimp farms within 1000 meters of the lake. The fishworker organisation had given a 24 hour ultimatum to demolish all prawn gheries which lapsed on May 29. Fishworkers then destroyed about 11 illegal prawn farms. Police raided the village on midnight after 10,000 villagers led by Chilika Matsyajibi Mahasangh destroyed the prawn farms. Police then began to beat villagers mercilessly, threw tear gas shells and began shooting without provocation. Banchhanidhi Behera died on the spot; Digambar Behrera and Prema Behra on the way to hospital (and another victim died later at the hospital.). The National Fishworkers Forum Chairperson Mr.Harekrishna Debnath has condemned the incident and strongly protested against the police action. He said that National Fishworkers Forum uphold the right of the fishermen to freely fish in the lake and asked the administration to evict all outsiders from the lake. NFF is supporting the strike call of June 5th. NFF vows to intensify the struggle against industrial aquaculture and demands the withdrawal of the Aquaculture Authority Bill. Thomas Kocherry Co-ordinator of World Forum Of FishHarvesters and Fishworkers has also condemned the police firing and asked the guilty to be punished immediately. ORISSA BANDH OF 5TH JUNE. The police violence has resulted in a massive popular strike held on June 5th called by the fishermen's union. On 5th June, due to the 12 hours Bandh called by Chilika MatsyajibiMahasangh, the railway and road connection with Easten coast of the country came into a standstill. This bandh was supported by two left groups and Janata Dal. Fishworkers have blocked the railroad in many stations as a result of which trains were stranded in different stations. From the morning fishworkers started sitting on the railway lines of Rambha, Khallikote, Bhusandapur and other stations.In Bhubaneswar station 600 women carrying their children stopped the Chennai-Howrah Koromandal Express. Eight trains including Puri-Talcher Passenger, Puri-Katak Passenger were cancelled. Apart from the communication system, in rest of the state the impact of the Bandh was partial. In capital Bhubaneswar it was totally successful, shops were closed. Thousands of fishworkers from Chilika and adjacent area have made human wall in the city and vehicles were totally stopped. Attendance in offices was very poor. Police arrested 2000 people including fishworkers and workers of different political groups. For more information, contact: Thomas Xavier Kocherry Co-ordinator, World Forum of Fish-harvesters and Fishworkers [WFF] Co-ordinator, National Alliance of Peoples Movements (India), [NAPM] Velankanny, Junction, Valiathura, Thiruvananthapuram 695 008, INDIA Phone Fax: +91 - 471 - 50 1376; E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.south-asian-initiative.org/wff --- ACTION ALERT!!! Please send faxes and/or letters of protest to Prime Minister and Orissa Chief Minister at the following addresses: 1) Mr. Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Prime Minister of India, 152, South Block New Delhi- 110 011, India. Fax : +(91) 11 301 8906, 301 6857 2) Mr. Giridar Gomang Chief Minister of Orissa, Bhubaneswar, Orissa India. Fax: +(91) 674 401 007 3) Ambassador R.K. Rai Indian Ambassador to Thailand The Indian Embassy Sukhumvit 23 Road Soi Prasanmit 46 Bangkok 10110 Fax: 02-258-4627 And, please include in your cc of any copeis of correspondence you may have sent out to embassies or Indian PM to the National Fisherworkers Forum (NFF) of India and to Harekrishna Debnath at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that they can pass the word along to the people on the frontlines who, I'm sure, will receive a moral boost to know that the eyes
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-06-27 11:52:29 EDT, you write: Tell ya what, Ric, when we can elect our bosses, when we can elect our landlords, when we can hold referendums on the price of bread, then I'll start thinking this place is on its way to becoming a democracy. In the meantime, let's be frank; it's a fascist police state. So, you think Socialism will be any better? I think not, it has some good points, but they get buried quickly along with anyone who stands in it's way. You can elect to change your boss or landlord by finding a new job or a new place to live. If we hold referendums on the price of bread, cars, lodging, etc no one will have any motivation to improve anything, because they will get the same price for a 3,200 sq ft really nice house as they would for a 800 sq ft apartment. No one would have any incentive to work harder to get ahead because they would get paid the same as one who does nothing. I spent two years of my life in Turkey and it is much different than here, you don't see the military "guarding" the streets with automatic weapons or patrolling the beach on horseback with automatic weapons. We still have some freedoms left which we need to defend and somehow try to get back the ones we've lost. Best Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] libertarian heresy (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Citation: The New Leader Feb 10 1997, v80, n2, p13(2) Author: Clausen, Christopher Title: The Libertarian heresy. by Christopher Clausen COPYRIGHT 1997 American Labor Conference on International Affairs Libertarianism has been getting some respectful attention lately in the press and on the talk shows. At first glance, it is hard to see why. The Libertarian Party has been on the ballot in most states for 20 years and has yet to elect a governor or a Congressman; its Presidential candidate in 1996, Harry Browne, never got beyond C-SPAN. And no wonder: The party's platform calls for privatizing Social Security, the Interstate Highway System, and just about every other government function. We live in an age of budget-cutting and downsizing, but there are limits to what even adventurous young voters in the computer industry (a relative hotbed of Libertarian supporters) will go for. Even though the party is probably stuck forever in the pack of eccentric historical also-rans, the philosophy of libertarianism has a contemporary appeal that may be giving it some real political influence. The iron law of American electoral politics--third parties never go anywhere--has a corollary: The ideology of a third party, if it fills a need, will be taken over by the Democrats, the Republicans, or both. That's what happened when the Populists, at the turn of the century, bequeathed social concerns to the Democrats that still carry weight. A little later the Progressive Party left its reformist influence on both Republicans and Democrats, especially in the Midwest. Libertarianism may be reaching this stage. Three new evangelizing books about it from major publishers have almost nothing to say about the Libertarian Party, clearly regarded as a lost cause by the authors. Their concern is to lay out the principles of libertarianism as a new political philosophy--or rather an old one whose time has come back after a series of failed experiments with big government at home and abroad. "Libertarianism," says David Boaz, executive vice president of the Cato Institute, in Libertariarism: A Primer (Free Press, 314 pp., $23.00), "may be regarded as a political philosophy that applies the ideas of classical liberalism consistently, following liberal arguments to conclusions that would limit the role of government more strictly and protect individual freedom more fully than other classical liberals would. Most of the time I use liberal in its traditional sense; I call today's misnamed liberals welfare-state liberals or social democrats." Since classical liberalism--especially its belief in laissez-faire economics--is a major element in modern American conservatism, journalists often describe libertarians as merely a subspecies of conservatives. Perhaps some libertarians can be accurately pigeonholed that way, but Boaz isn't among them. For instance, his book endorses not only unregulated capitalism and an end to the welfare state, which most conservatives support, but homosexual marriage, the right to abortion, and freedom to publish pornography, which are anathema to conservatives. He traces the genealogy of modern libertarianism through Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, the antislavery and women's rights movements, as well as the early 20th-century Austrian School of laissez-faire economists. This line of descent looks odd, Boaz would say, only because American welfare-state liberals inconsistently support individual freedom in private life but oppose it in economic matters. The Libertarian Reader (Free Press, 458 pp., $27.50), edited by Boaz as a companion to the Primer, further documents the liberal traditions his kind of libertarianism grew out of. "In the libertarian view," he maintains, "we have an infinite number of rights contained in one natural right. That one fundamental human right is the right to live your life as you choose so long as you don't infringe on the equal rights of others." This live-and-let-live philosophy is anything but conservative and has a lot of resonance today, when most of the moral authorities that maintained discipline even 40 years ago have become so weak. It undoubtedly benefits, too, from the disdain government is held in at the moment. Some conservatives are alarmed. Robert Bartley, editorial page editor of the Wall Street Journal, recently worried that "Among both Silicon Valley entrepreneurs and Internet youths, a rather doctrinaire libertarianism already prevails. Precisely because these groups are inmost ways so admirable, their influence is bound to grow. They will be a wholesome force toward smaller and more open government, lower taxes, faster economic growth, school vouchers, term limits Yet it is also true that the most worrisome problems of society today revolve around the erosion of social controls that
[CTRL] Latin American Union: Free Trade by Capital Regulation
-Caveat Lector- "Brazil and Chile have proposed ``redesigning'' the global financial system to make it more difficult for capital to jump from country to country, thereby reducing the world economy's volatility and curbing the spread of economic crises. "Germany, Portugal and Spain are sympathetic to the idea "In Argentina, the Latin American Center for Relations with Europe argued it was ``fundamental for the summit to reform the world monetary and financial system.'' "Also on the agenda is opening talks about inaugurating a 'free trade zone' linking the European Union and Mercosur, the South American trade bloc." Rio Summit Leaders Regulate Capital By PETER MUELLO .c The Associated Press RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (AP) - Latin American, Caribbean and European Union leaders reached a consensus Saturday on language about regulating international capital flows on the eve of a two-day summit. Brazilian Foreign Ministry spokesman Jose Alfredo Graca Lima said there would be a mention of the need to control capital in the Declaration of Rio de Janeiro, to be signed at the summit that starts Monday. The decision to address the issue was seen as a triumph for Brazil, which was among the nations hit hardest by the financial crisis that blew in from Asia two years ago, and pressed to include the language in the final document. A group led by Brazil and Chile contends that making it harder for capital to jump from country to country would reduce the world economy's volatility and curb the spread of economic crises. Earlier Saturday, diplomats were uncertain that they could reach common ground. On Sunday, foreign ministers from the 48 countries represented meet to review the document, which is expected to cover a wide range of topics, from human rights to terrorism, illegal drugs and free trade. Brazil was among the victims when Thailand's economy crashed in 1997 and started a global panic, prompting investors to pull their money out of emerging markets. The government lost $10 billion literally overnight and decreed a series of spending cuts and tax increases that slowed the economy to a crawl. In January, Brazil's currency, the real, collapsed. The government abandoned efforts to prop it up and the real plunged 45 percent before recovering. President Fernando Henrique Cardoso has proposed a ``redesigning'' of the global financial system to make it more difficult for capital to jump around. Germany, Portugal and Spain reportedly are sympathetic to the idea, and private groups also are sounding the call. The Latin American Center for relations with Europe, an independent Argentine think tank, said it was ``fundamental for the summit to analyze the reform of the world monetary and financial system'' in light of the recent crises. One proposal is a tax on financial operations with the proceeds going to a fund to help economies in crisis. Also on the agenda is a proposal to start talks about a free trade zone linking the European Union and Mercosur, the South American trade bloc featuring Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and associated members Chile and Bolivia. But Manuel Marin, EU Latin American Affairs Commissioner, said Saturday there is no deadline for the talks to start or end. It was widely reported that the talks would start in 2001 and conclude by 2005. Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo was the first foreign leader to arrive Saturday and was to have lunch with Cardoso on Sunday. Cuban President Fidel Castro heads a list of others expected Sunday. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL!
-Caveat Lector- I'm sorry, but while it _may_ be true this sounds like blatant racism put out by the KKK or another like-type group. -- I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. -Voltaire ICQ: 9815080 Operator Taliesin_2 of #SacredNemeton on IRC PaganPaths DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Three Times As Many Arrested by FBI As Convicted
-Caveat Lector- Study: FBI Poor on Convictions Rate By WILLIAM KATES .c The Associated Press SYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) - The FBI obtains convictions in just one in four cases, the worst average among major federal law enforcement agencies, according to a new study of Justice Department statistics. From 1993 through 1997, the FBI referred 222,504 cases for prosecution. Only 27 percent resulted in a conviction, said researchers at Syracuse University's Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, or TRAC. In about one-third of cases the FBI referred, federal prosecutors declined to take action because of weak or insufficient evidence, or after deciding there was minimal or no federal interest. An FBI spokesman called the study ``meaningless.'' TRAC, a research organization that analyzes U.S. Justice Department data obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, is co-directed by David Burnham, a former New York Times reporter. Burnham suggested the FBI may be asked to do too much. ``Congress has pushed the FBI into being all things to all people,'' he said. ``They've passed all these white collar crime laws. They've passed all these drug laws. There's heavy pressure from presidents, Congress and industry for the FBI to handle everything.'' TRAC found that in 1997, half of the FBI's 12,324 convictions involved drug or bank theft cases, crimes that Burnham said could have been handled by state or local authorities. The study, released to the media Saturday night, found the FBI spent less time on cases where it has primary or exclusive responsibility: national security (12 convictions); official corruption (233), organized crime (400), civil rights (99) and white-collar crimes such as medical fraud (202) and embezzlement (66). The numbers are accurate, but do not provide a true reflection of the bureau's work because they are based on attorney's reports, which are different from the bureau's, said FBI spokesman Tron Brekke. ``He doesn't understand how this agency works,'' Brekke said of Burnham. ``He doesn't establish an even playing field among the agencies. If we were all alike, the way we did business ... then maybe there's a valid way of comparing.'' Compared with other selected federal agencies, the FBI's ratio of convictions-to-dismissals, its ``strike out'' average, was the poorest. The Immigration and Naturalization Service topped the list with 18 convictions for every dismissal. The Drug Enforcement Administration had a 7-to-1 ratio. Even the IRS made good on a 2-to-1 average, according to the study. ``A lot of these other agencies are singular mission agencies, like DEA,'' Brekke said. ``The FBI has approximately 300 separate violations that we look at, including drugs, where we have concurrent jurisdiction with DEA.'' TRAC noted that the FBI's conviction average was significantly more impressive when it was considered in terms of cases that were actually prosecuted - 69 percent ended in convictions. Although complete 1998 figures were not available, TRAC reported that the FBI ended with convictions in 76 percent of its cases that were tried last year. The data also showed that the proportion of FBI referrals prosecuted has steadily improved in recent years, going from 38 percent in 1994 to 49 percent in 1998. In addition, the TRAC study reported that the FBI, with 11,269 agents, has more agents per capita than at any time in its history. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Open-Air Germ Warfare Test in NM
-Caveat Lector- Los Alamos Postpones Biowarfare Test LOS ALAMOS, N.M. (AP) - Scientists have postponed indefinitely a planned Monday open-air release of bacteria that would have been used to test biowarfare detectors intended for battlefield use. The planned tests at Los Alamos National Laboratory have raised questions about the lab's openness with the public as scientists expand their research into identifying and defending against biowarfare agents. Homeowners in nearby White Rock complained to senior lab managers. Lab officials did not reveal the exact nature of the concerns in White Rock but agreed last week to postpone the tests indefinitely. They scheduled a public meeting for July 7 at White Rock Town Hall to discuss the tests and have invited state health officials to attend. Scientists had planned to release about an ounce of Bacillus globigii spores six times Monday night. The brownish-yellow clouds of bacteria spores were to have been released near the end of Frijoles Mesa. Lab scientists wearing full-face respirators were to be downwind with a new suite of biowarfare detectors linked by computer and intended to be refined for battlefield use. Bacillus globigii, or Bg, lives in local soils and is harmless to healthy adults. But the bacteria, in theory, could cause lung or eye infections in people with dramatically weakened defenses against bacterial disease, such as cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Golan Heights
-Caveat Lector- Israeli President: Return Golan .c The Associated Press CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Israel should return the Golan Heights to Syria, Israeli President Ezer Weizman said in remarks published Saturday. In an interview published in the Arabic daily Al Hayat of London, Weizman was asked if it was necessary for Israel to withdraw from the Golan. Weizman said: ``Yes, ... for the good of Israel, the interest of Israel's economy and our capacity to absorb more immigrants.'' Syria has long demanded a complete Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights, a plateau captured in the 1967 Middle East War. In turn, Israel wants peace with Syria, including open borders and trade. The Israeli presidency is largely a ceremonial post, but Weizman's statements carry great moral weight. He has often irked outgoing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with independent peace initiatives. Weizman also said Israel could not withdraw from Lebanon without an agreement with Syria, the dominant power there. Israeli Prime Minister-elect Ehud Barak has pledged to withdraw Israel's 1,500 troops within 12 months. There are strong hopes in the Arab world that Barak, who defeated the hard-line Netanyahu in last month's elections, will resume peace talks with Syria - suspended since February 1996 - and break the deadlock in the negotiations with the Palestinians. Syria Wants All of Golan Returned DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) - With hopes growing for renewed negotiations, Syria insisted Sunday it could not make peace with Israel without the return of the entire Golan Heights. The election in May of Ehud Barak as Israel's prime minister has raised expectations that long stalled negotiations between Syria and Israel could resume. Barak has expressed a willingness to give back territory in the Golan. Syria long has demanded a complete Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights, a plateau Israel occupied in the 1967 Middle East war and later annexed. ``Our commitment to peace as a strategic option does not mean, in any way, approving a peace that is not based on the full restoration of the occupied Arab lands,'' Syrian parliament speaker Abdul-Kader Kaddoura said at the opening session of a meeting of the Arab Parliamentarian Union. Meanwhile, Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi met with his Syrian counterpart Farouq al-Sharaa in Damascus to discuss the Middle East peace process and Friday's airstrikes by Israel against Lebanon. He was expected to deliver a message from Iranian President Mohammad Khatami to President Hafez Assad about the matters. Kharrazi and al-Sharaa condemned the Israeli strikes and expressed support for Lebanese guerrilla groups fighting Israeli troops occupying south Lebanon, the official news agency SANA reported. Syria and Iran both give backing to Shiite Muslim Hezbollah, the main guerrilla group fighting in south Lebanon. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] KLA Run Amok in NATO's Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- "Despite NATO's attempts to bring security to the province and the KLA's promise to demilitarize, Albanians openly and unapologetically are taking revenge on Serbs." Marines Under Attack in Kosovo By LAURA KING .c The Associated Press PRISTINA, Yugoslavia (AP) - U.S. Marines came under attack in Kosovo on Friday for a second time this week, killing one person while returning fire. Frightened Serbs fled as their homes blazed after being ransacked by ethnic Albanians. An outpost of the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit came under small arms fire near the center of Gnjilane, according to the U.S. European Command in Germany, The Marines called for reinforcements and returned fire, while a quick reaction force stormed nearby buildings looking for snipers, the statement said. ``During the process a Marine patrol found the wounded civilian man lying beside an AK-47 rifle,'' the statement said. He was evacuated to the town hospital where he was pronounced dead. An ABC news correspondent reported from Gnjilane that the Marines came under sniper fire from at least three buildings. It was unclear whether the gunman was a Serb or an ethnic Albanian. On Wednesday, Marines killed one Serb and wounded two others after gunmen opened fire on a Marine patrol in a village south of Gnjilane. Only half of the NATO peacekeepers have arrived, and those in Kosovo are struggling to restore order in the troubled province after more than a year of clashes. NATO forces reported unrest throughout most of Kosovo's major cities and the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees described the situation in one northern city as a ``ticking time bomb.'' In Washington, President Clinton said Thursday he's not surprised that ethnic Albanians are engaging in revenge attacks on Serbs ``after what they've been through,'' but he said NATO is doing its best to stop the violence as refugees return home. In Pec, important to Serbs as the seat of the Serbian Orthodox Church in medieval times, weeping Serbs abandoned the city Friday, claiming they were being chased out by ethnic Albanians. Of hundreds who had taken refuge in a church complex last week, only about 50 remained on Friday. Despite NATO's attempts to bring security to the province and the ethnic Albanian rebel Kosovo Liberation Army's promise to demilitarize, Albanians openly and unapologetically are taking revenge on Serbs for the ethnic killings this spring and for years of oppression beforehand. ``They burned my house, so I don't care about this one,'' Mohammed Azemi said as he stood near a blazing house in the village of Belo Polje. ``I'm happy in some way.'' In Veriq, Ymer Delija looted lumber, hoses and mirrors from a Serb house. He said his wife and three of his four children had been killed by Serbs last year. ``This is a kind of revenge. I burned two or three already. That's enough for today,'' he said. Even hospitals are not immune to the violence. At the main hospital in the provincial capital, Pristina, 247 Kalashnikov automatic rifles have been seized in the past few days, according to U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard in New York. A nurse and a guard at the hospital were wounded Thursday when a patient being treated for a gunshot wound pulled out a gun when he saw his alleged assailant and opened fire. A dispute between Serb and Albanian doctors over who should control the hospital in Pristina deteriorated when negotiations under U.N. and NATO auspices broke down after reports that the chief Serb physician had been killed, Eckhard said. In New York, Human Rights Watch said a one-week investigation indicated Kosovo Liberation Army members were involved in murders, rape and other abuses of Serbs and Gypsies. The organization said there was insufficient evidence to accuse the KLA leadership of orchestrating the attacks but it urged rebel commanders to discipline its ranks and punish offenders. The commander of the NATO peacekeeping operation in Kosovo, British Lt. Gen. Mike Jackson, tried to reassure Serbs gathered in Kosovo Polje that NATO would protect them from revenge attacks by ethnic Albanians. ``I know that every soldier here understand utterly clearly his duty to protect all the citizens of Kosovo. ... We are here to help you,'' Jackson said. ``Have courage.'' Jackson spoke to the crowd outside a small yellow church without amplification, but his vigorous attempt at assurance brought only light applause, and much grumbling at the edge of the crowd. ``I'll stay, but not because of him. I was born here. I'll die here if I must,'' said Goran Petrovic, 27. Kosovo Polje, just west of Pristina, is a deeply meaningful site to Serbs, the location of 1389 battle against Ottoman Turks that Serbs see as a defining moment in their history. Amid the tensions, some 300,000 ethnic Albanians have flooded back into the province in the past 10 days, said Paula Ghedini, a spokeswoman for the U.N. refugee agency. ``This is one of the largest spontaneous
[CTRL] Bill LYING (Surprise!) about Chinagate
-Caveat Lector- "McCain, on ``Fox News Sunday,'' said "there is no doubt that there was, frankly, misconduct in government. "'We need to know all the facts. But I don't know if we'll ever know it all.''' White House Angry About China Dates By WILLIAM C. MANN .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Senators reacted bitterly Sunday to a report the Clinton White House knew of Chinese nuclear espionage earlier than it has acknowledged. ``That really shouldn't go on'' said GOP Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, who plans to run for president. ``I'm sick of it.'' Sen. John McCain of Arizona, another GOP presidential aspirant, accused the administration of covering up and ``misconduct.'' Even a Clinton supporter, Sen. Joe Lieberman, accused the White House of ineptitude because it apparently knew of security problems in the country's nuclear weapons laboratories nine months before President Clinton was told. ``Looking back at it, this is critical enough ... that the president should have been informed. There's no question about it,'' said Lieberman, D-Conn. The White House acknowledged Sunday it was alerted to suspicions of Chinese espionage in 1995 but did not learn about details until 1996, as the administration has maintained. Chinese spying in U.S. weapons laboratories began in the mid-1980s during the Reagan administration. It went undiscovered until scientists determined in 1995 that China had gained access to the United States' most advanced nuclear warhead. Hatch and other Republicans accuse the administration of ignoring evidence of the leak partly because of illegal Chinese campaign contributions to Democrats for the 1996 election campaign. The New York Times reported Sunday that in July 1995, Hazel O'Leary, then energy secretary, told then-White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta and other officials about evidence that China may have stolen nuclear secrets. Word filtered out to other officials in ensuing months, the newspaper said, citing interviews with current and former officials. It said a new report on the case issued by the president's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board refers to meetings among Energy Department, CIA and White House officials in the second half of 1995. Sandy Berger, deputy national security adviser in 1995 who now holds the top job, has said he did not tell Clinton of the matter until Berger was briefed thoroughly in July 1997. On Sunday, the White House denied any formal interagency contact over the issue before April 1996, when the Energy Department briefed Berger. Counsel Jim Kennedy said prior discussions of the matter - such as the July 1995 contact - constituted preliminary and informal notification. O'Leary's talk with Panetta, Kennedy said, was ``simply an informal heads-up to the White House.'' McCain, appearing with his Senate colleagues on ``Fox News Sunday,'' said there is ``no doubt that there was some tremendous lapses or even, frankly, misconduct in government, that we need to know all the facts. But I don't know if we'll ever know it all.'' Hatch, a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, said much of the truth already is known. ``This administration knew in 1995, the national security adviser knew that this was going on, and they chose to continue to fight for the election rather than for the American people,'' Hatch said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] E-Bay Auctioning Stealth F-111a Nighthawk
-Caveat Lector- [Unable to display image] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Liberty comes at the cost of eternal vigilance
-Caveat Lector-
There are no Courts of constituted law in America, within the States party to
the Constitution of the United States for the United States of America.
The administrative tribunals created under Article I, section 8, clause 9, are
constituted to administer questions arising under the Jurisdiction of the
United States as delineated in Article I, section 8, clause 17, and Article IV,
section 3, clause 2.
The supreme Court of the United States, as delineated in Article III, section
1, has never held a session to adjudicate questions arising under its
delineated jurisdiction as proscribed in Article III, section 2.
These administrative Tribunals found within the exterior boundaries of the
States party to the Constitution of the United States for the United States of
America, are an alien and foreign jurisdiction to the people within the
sovereign and independent States of America.
The black robed administrator operates under the law merchant enforcing the
statutory rules, regulations and ordinances of its creator, the Legislative
Assembly. These administrative tribunals are contracted under the suzerainty
of a private corporate monopoly populated by unregistered agents of their
undisclosed foreign principal in contradistinction to Article I, section 9,
clause 8, and Title 22, section 611 et. seq. of the United States Code, the
municipal laws of the Federal Corporation, Title 28, section 3002, paragraph
15(a).
The inhabitants of the States party to the Constitution of the United States
for the United States of America, have the unalienable right to question these
fictional jurisdictions, known as the legislative tribunal. To do otherwise is
acquiescence to the private corporate courts jurisdiction.
The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance
"In a age of universal deceit, telling
the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell
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From: Rod Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [teaparty] (no subject)
Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 6:22 AM
From: Rod Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here's what someone I know has to say:
Lynn Meredith's office was raided recently. The IRS got her mailing
list of
20,000 people.
And those people will now be thoroughly investigated and/or audited with a
fine-toothed comb by the good folks at the Income Reduction Service, and
many of them will be arrested and/or hauled into court on whatever charges
the IRS can scrape up so that their property can be seized and their entire
lives put into hock, whether or not they have actually done something wrong.
A good reason not to get on one of these mailing lists, n'est pas?
And in regard to your missive about YET ANOTHER "expert's" way of trying to
outmaneuver the courts, please bear in mind that even if the author is an
unequalled expert on the American legal system, from its inception at the
hands of the Framers through its history of modifications down to today
(which is unlikely since most of these "patriot" folks seem to be
self-taught), and even if he is able to clearly communicate his knowledge
and his understanding to others (and I have never yet seen one of these
people who could write clearly), and even granting the remote possibility
that what he says may be 100% correct, the simple fact of this world is that
the people who are in control make the rules and the rules will always be
made to accomplish the ends that the people in control want them to
accomplish, regardless of the consistency with which the rules may or may
not be applied and regardless of whether or not the rules are even
internally consistent.
Lewis Carroll wasn't so far off ("Rule 42: All persons more that a mile high
must leave the courtroom.").
And, as has been the case in so many of these narratives, the simple fact is
that the judge has spent most of his professional career in the legal system
and the "patriot" has been studying it in his spare time on evenings and
weekends. No matter how well-schooled the "patriot" thinks he is, the judge
is more knowledgable. As with the toothpick incident, if the game continues
long enough the judge will eventually trip the "patriot" up at some point,
and off the "patriot" goes to jail.
It is worth remembering, too, that a judge is a human being like you are. He
has good days and bad days. Most of his days are probably not very good
since he has to spend them dealing with a great number of genuine criminals
and listening to lengthy and excruciatingly detailed narratives of the
subhuman behavior they engage in, or in lesser cases simply of arrogance and
self-centeredness or even outright stupidity. In addition to this, he may
have had a fight with his wife the night before you appear in his courtroom,
or he may be wondering how he is going to pay for his children's college
education so that his children won't end up like the people whom he has to
send to jail every day. So, if you
[CTRL] The 1920's Revisited: FDR, Al Smith, Hoover
-Caveat Lector- The Man, the Leader, the Legacy: Part 6 by Ralph Raico, April 1999 In the course of the 1920s, Roosevelt had grown close politically to the major figure in Democratic politics in New York, Alfred E. Smith. On the face of it, this was a curious alliance. Smith's base was the powerful Tammany Hall machine, in New York City. [The Judaization of Tammany is now complete, for the Irish element has been overcome by Jewish money. JEWISH INFLUENCES IN AMERICAN POLITICS- http://www.muslim.net/islam/Zionism/Ford/ij_ch8.html] In contrast, Roosevelt liked to pose as an independent and reformer, an enemy to everything Tammany stood for: wholesale patronage and systematic graft. Yet each man had something the other could use: Smith, Irish and Catholic, an adamant foe of Prohibition, was so rooted in the great city that his theme song was "The Sidewalks of New York." Roosevelt, a Protestant from "upstate," who could appease "drys" on the liquor question, offered his many connections among the social and financial elite. Franklin quickly patched up his old quarrel with the Tammany machine. In 1924, he was ready to lend Smith, now governor of New York, something of his patrician glamour, as he nominated him for president of the United States. The Democratic convention was held in the old Madison Square Garden, where the sweltering New York summer was particularly oppressive. Smith's chief rival, William Gibbs McAdoo, had been treasury secretary under Wilson and was considered friendly to the Ku Klux Klan, then enjoying a great revival. In those days (and until 1936) a two-thirds majority was needed for nomination by the Democrats--a means of ensuring a southern veto over any candidate the party would select. When the moment came to put Smith's name in nomination, Roosevelt, supporting himself on crutches, made his painful way across the platform. It was his first political speech since he had fallen ill, and his courage and good cheer were palpable to the thousands of spellbound onlookers. Literally in the spotlight, he delivered his speech in his fine, strong tones. Clearly, here was a man who, in spite of dreadful physical disability, was vibrant and robust. The speech had been composed primarily by Judge Joseph Proscauer. In the end, what everyone remembered was the phrase from William Wordsworth, which Judge Proscauer had insisted on and which Roosevelt had found too "poetic": This is the Happy Warrior, this is he Whom every Man in arms should wish to be. From then on, Al Smith would be known as the Happy Warrior. The balloting went on for days--roll call followed roll call, each beginning with the head of the Alabama delegation famously intoning, "Alabama casts 24 votes for Oscar W. Underwood." Finally, on the 103rd ballot, the compromise candidate passed the two-thirds hurdle. He was John W. Davis, a wealthy corporate lawyer, hailing from West Virginia, but now associated with the J.P. Morgan interests and ensconced on Long Island. (It was a period when the reputation of big business was running high.) Franklin was the only real star of the ill-fated convention. In the November election, Davis lost to the Republican incumbent Calvin Coolidge by a landslide. Nearly 5 million votes were cast on the Progressive line for Robert La Follette, Woodrow Wilson's bitter antagonist on war with Germany. During the next four years, FDR kept building up his network of contacts in the national party. But everything seemed rosy for the Republicans for the foreseeable future, and Roosevelt's plan was to make recovering his health his major concern. He purchased the establishment at Warm Springs, set up a foundation to run it, and spent more and more time there. In 1928, he once again put Al Smith's name in nomination at the convention, in Houston, incidentally speaking for the first time to a national radio audience of millions. Radio was to be the medium of which FDR would become the acknowledged master. It created a sense of intimacy with the listeners that perfectly fit his personal style, besides allowing him to bypass the newspaper press, often controlled by his unrelenting enemies. In Houston the nomination took only one ballot. But Al Smith's candidacy was doomed. Not only was the country basking in what seemed to be an indefinite prosperity under the Republicans, but what had been advantages for Smith in New York hurt him badly in most of the rest of the country: his pronounced opposition to Prohibition (he was himself a notorious drinker), his links to Tammany, and his religion. It did nothing to dampen anti-Catholic suspicions when, on a visit by Smith and his wife to Rome, the Pope referred to him as "my beloved son, Governor Smith." (Mrs. Smith was no asset either; to many, including Eleanor's set, Katie was unspeakably vulgar--so Irish, you know.) The Smith camp believed they had no chance at all if they failed to carry New York. Upstate, the religious issue swayed many. But with the Protestant
[CTRL] class war (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Citation: Dollars Sense Nov-Dec 1997, n214, p7(1) Author: Hightower, Jim Title: Class war. (business and government policies against workers)(Comment)(Column) by Jim Hightower COPYRIGHT 1997 Dollars Sense Watching Washington's cognoscenti perform on the Sunday morning political talk shows is much like watching blowfish, cockatoos and other showy critters featured on the Animal Channel. What a hoot to see them strut their stuff! My favorites are such persnickety pundits as George Will and pompous politicos like Phil Gramm who puff up and fall into absolute hissy fits at the merest mention that working folks are not getting much benefit from Wall Street's economic boom: "Class War," they sputter and spew. "The left is trying to foment Class War in our country!" The left? Do they mean Newt Gingrich, Bill Clinton, Alan Greenspan, Tom DeLay and Robert Rubin? Or maybe "Chainsaw Al" Dunlap (Sunbeam), Philip Knight (Nike), Michael Eisner (Disney) and Robert Allen (ATT). These are your class warriors, each one a part of the army of ignorance and arrogance operating from Washington and Wall Street - an army that is waging a relentless economic war against America's working folks, literally knocking down the middle class. The left is not fomenting a class war, but it damn sure should begin to fight back against the furious assault from the corporatists on the right. You want class war? Meet Gerry Cameron, CEO of U.S. Bancorp based in Portland, Oregon. This spring, he engineered an $8.8 billion takeover of his own bank by First Bank Systems Inc. in faraway Minneapolis. Four thousand Bancorp employees were being hurled out the door as a result of Gerry's deal, and 44 local branches were being closed. Also, the law firm servicing U.S. Bancorp, the cleaning crew that maintained its office tower, and the small flower shop on the ground floor all took hits. Business after business lost jobs and income as the Minneapolis owners consolidated their acquisition and Bancorp cutbacks rippled through the Portland economy. To be fair, the flower shop did have one short-lived uptick in business: sympathy bouquets delivered to departing bank employees. It should be noted, too, that Mr. Cameron went out of his way to assist at least one Bancorp employee: himself! The merger gave him a $12.4 million personal thank-you payment - tax free, since First Bank agreed to pay all taxes he'd owe on that generous sum. He also gets to be chairman of the Portland division of the Minneapolis bank, continuing to receive his $1.6 million annual paycheck plus gaining untold millions in profits from the Bancorp stock he owned. And his new stock options on 100,000 shares of the Minneapolis bank are worth at least $8.6 million. To put a cherry on the top of this whipped-cream-of-a-deal, Cameron is also assured of being paid $1 million a year after his planned retirement in 1998. You want class war? The Bill Clinton/Newt Gingrich/Trent Lott tax and budget agreement is a primo example. As is documented in these pages, the working poor will be worse off under this raw deal, and the middle class will feel very little or no improvement. But the wealthiest 10%, and especially the wealthiest 1% - the millionaire class - will make out like bandits. Major corporations are the big winners, not only fighting off any cuts in their existing welfare benefits, but actually gaining more than $100 billion in new loopholes and subsidies. Notice that payroll taxes were not reduced one iota or spread more equitably. And while our Medicare program took a $115 billion chop. The multibillion-dollar Pentagon budget was not even on the cutting table; it will enjoy about a $20 billion increase. Yet when Clinton gleefully signed this sucker, announcing in his best Reaganesque tones that "the sun is shining on America again," he used a couple of middle class families as his photo-op props. Out of camera view, the corporate lobbyists sported broad and knowing smiles. You want class war? Talk with Angela Stroud. For 17 years, she worked for Champion Products in Clayton, N.C., turning out quality sweatsuits, jerseys and other sportswear items. She and her coworkers have made this division of Sara Lee the industry leader, even supplying the uniforms for the NFL, the NBA and last year's U.S. Olympic team. Despite her loyalty and productivity, however, Angela and 414 other Champion workers in Clayton were punted out the factory door in April. They were the latest to join 1,400 other Champion employees in North Carolina (62% of its statewide workforce) who have lost their jobs in the past five years. Is Champion losing sales or is Sara Lee unprofitable? Hardly. Business is booming and Sara Lee took nearly a billion dollars in profits last year. But the company can go from profit to profiteering by shipping
[CTRL] As the rich get richer (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Citation: Florida Trend Nov 1998, v41, n7, p122(3) Author: Klas, Mary Ellen Title: As the rich get richer. (wage gap in Florida) by Mary Ellen Klas COPYRIGHT 1998 Trend Magazines Inc. Florida's economic news is not so good for middle- and low-wage workers. It has been a banner year for Florida. The state's unemployment rate has hovered at a 25-year low, with some of the most chronically unemployed getting jobs. Consumer confidence reached an all-time high. Job growth and export sales exceeded all expectations. Per capita income grew faster here than in most other states and fastest among Southeast states. And Florida continued to outperform the nation in job growth for most industries. But all the good news was not able to reverse a trend that has been going on for a decade: Middle- and low-wage workers continue to see the real value of their wages - their earnings measured against inflation - erode. Three-fifths of the state's workers are working longer to achieve income levels that are, on average, lower than they were a decade ago. And the number of people holding those low-end jobs is rising. The source of that sobering bit of news is a recent report released by Florida International University's Center for Labor Research and Study. It found that only the highest income workers - the top 40% of the population - are gaining in real terms. The highest 20% now average $107,800 a year. Middle income earners, whose average income is $36,000, are "slowly losing ground," according to the study, while low-wage earners, who earn an average of $7,710, are "rapidly sliding backwards." In short, the distribution of income and wealth in Florida is getting more uneven. Other data from the report: * Average wages in Florida have remained essentially flat in the last decade and continue to be lower than most other states - 89.6% of the national average last year. * Florida has fallen to 42nd out of 50 states in median household income. That ranking represents a frightening decline: In 1986, the state ranked 23rd. * FIU's data show a widening gap between those with good-paying jobs and everyone else: Some 31 other states now have a narrower gap between upper and middle income earners, and 34 states have a narrower gap between the top earners and the 20% of the work force that earns the least. FIU's Bruce Nissen observes, "If we're seeing this growing gap in times of prosperity and growth and in times of low unemployment, imagine what is going to happen when we see a downturn." Bob Bradley doesn't have to imagine. The director of the Governor's Office of Planning and Budgeting and veteran of the 1991-92 recession has seen what happens when the economy sours and people who have no savings lose jobs. The result will be "more people on Medicaid and more people on TANF (temporary. assistance for needy families) and more people going to the community colleges (for job training). So, from a state government's perspective, people turn to government a little more." The FIU findings on income disparities come as no surprise to those who track the distribution of income. Florida has been among the top 10 states with the fastest-growing income gap for the past decade, according to the Washington, D.C.-based Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. "The average income of the richest fifth of families increased while the incomes of poor and middle class families declined," the center wrote of Florida in its publication, "Pulling Apart: A State-by-State Analysis of Income Trends." The growing income gap is not unique to Florida. It's a national trend that has prompted economic development officials across the country, including Enterprise Florida, to put a premium on the development of high-wage jobs to help diversify the economy and offset the vulnerability of low-earning workers. The problem in Florida is that the state starts out at a disadvantage. The state's per capita income levels hover around the national average only because of the substantial investment earnings from a small portion of the population. Per capita income from dividends, interest and rent is 48% higher in Florida than it is in the U.S. as a whole, according to the University of Florida's Bureau of Economic and Business Research (BEBR). "This pulls personal income averages up, while average wages and salaries drag it down," Nissen writes in the FIU report. "Those living on investments are doing much better than average for the U.S.; those relying on wages or salaries - unless they are the highest income brackets - are doing worse than U.S. averages." How bad will a slowdown be for Florida? David Denslow, economics professor at BEBR, thinks a consumer-driven recession will be milder in Florida than in most of the rest of the nation and far tamer than the recession of 1991-92. He
[CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
-Caveat Lector- This one is really good!! Little Leroy went to his mother demanding a new bicycle. His mother decided that he should take a look at himself and the way he acts. She said, "Well Leroy, it isn't Christmas and we don't have the money to just go out and buy you anything you want. So why don't you write a letter to Jesus and pray for one instead." After his temper tantrum his mother sent him to his room. He finally sat down to write a letter to Jesus. Dear Jesus, I've been a good boy this year and would appreciate a new bicycle. Your Friend, Leroy. Now Leroy knew that Jesus really knew what kind of boy he was (brat). So he ripped up the letter and decided to give it another try. Dear Jesus, I've been an OK boy this year and I want a new bicycle. Yours Truly, Leroy. Well, Leroy knew this wasn't totally honest so he tore it up and tried again. Dear Jesus, I've thought about being a good boy this year and can I have a bicycle? Leroy Well, Leroy looked deep down in his heart, which by the way was what his mother really wanted. He knew he had been terrible and was deserving of almost nothing. He crumpled up the letter, threw it in the trash can and went running outside. He aimlessly wandered about depressed because of the way he treated his parents and really considering his actions. He finally found himself in front of a Catholic Church. Leroy went inside and knelt down, looking around not knowing what he should really do. Leroy finally got up and began to walk out the door and was looking at all the statues. All of a sudden he grabbed a small one and ran out the door. He went home, hid it under his bed and wrote this letter. Jesus, I've got your mama. If you ever want to see her again, give me a bike. You know who. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
-Caveat Lector- How can there be humor in an illegal act followed by a threat? Sure, this is clever. But sends the wrong message. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
-Caveat Lector- -- From: AOL User [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!! Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 4:04 PM -Caveat Lector- How can there be humor in an illegal act followed by a threat? Sure, this is clever. But sends the wrong message. I have often noted that many members on this list are completely devoid of a funny bone!!! Lighten up - it's life. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Tim Leary FBI Snitch-
The attached FBI files show that "counter-culture icon" Timothy Leary was in fact one of "them"... tlsummar12.ZIP
Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
-Caveat Lector- I would not advocate this as a joke. And I do not think most people would. To do so would be immoral to me as it teaches theft and threatening. I don't understand people who think the tenor of this joke is just "a joke" and we all should "lighten up". It reminds me of the frog in the cold water who didn't notice the heat turning up slowly and steadily. Although I agree with Hilary that, unfortunately, the joke exemplifies life these days. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tim Leary FBI Snitch-
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, William Shannon wrote: The attached FBI files show that "counter-culture icon" Timothy Leary was in fact one of "them"... Leary never hid the fact that when he started out, his studies were funded by the Department of Justice and the CIA June ;-) *===* Kite So many things you want to see And as you ask I'll set you free But as you fly You'll touch the sky And touch the heart Within me Fly away. -- Bob Childs *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. **
Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
-Caveat Lector- Good joke Hilary, BTW...how many children do we have on this list now??? -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hilary A. Thomas Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 6:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Inside Bohemian Grove
-Caveat Lector- We may have to think about this - in light of the serious Wylder - MC allegations could it be that the secret government in order to allay the fears of the masses simply 'allowed' a reporter into Bohemian Grove to witness a staged event that conveyed the impression of total innocence and sporty fun eg. 'mock druidic ritual' - etc Then played the game of attempting to block the story knowing it would resurface amongst the conspiracy community as good propoganda for black ops ?? Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: ADV6-26-99: Smell the Blood!
-Caveat Lector- William, After reading a few of your posts, if only you was a nut case on the order of Pierce. John Lee - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: ADV6-26-99: Smell the Blood! -Caveat Lector- Pierce is an anti-Semite of the 1st order...He web site www.natvan.com, clearly shows this...listen to his broadcasts here, they're almost funny But, point blank...Pierce is a nutcase!! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
-Caveat Lector- -- From: T Nohava [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!! Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 5:26 PM -Caveat Lector- Good joke Hilary, BTW...how many children do we have on this list now??? Hiya T., The number seems to remain constant... Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PANAMA CANAL-a Bard Bomb on the NWO Elites! Carter'sperfidiousfraud on America!
-Caveat Lector- "Peter L. Sroufe" wrote: -Caveat Lector- SOURCE: THE NEW AMERICAN, June 21, 1999 Preface: Vladimir Ilyich Lenin was still a long way from consolidating his grip on Russia in 1919 when he penned the introduction to TEN DAYS THAT SHOOK THE WORLD, an adulatory account of the Bolshevik triumph by Harvard-educated American Communist John Reed. Comrade Reed recorded in his book (printed by the Communist Party's International Publishers) this official demand of the Reds: "All straits opening into inland seas, as well as the Suez and Panama Canals, are to be neutralized." JIMMY CARTER'S(CFR) BETRAYAL: With all opinion polls in 1976 showing massive public opposition (over 80 percent) to any surrender of u.S. sovereignty over the Canal, candidate Carter (CFR) had promised during the campaign NEVER to give up the strategic isthmus passage. That PLEDGE could not be allowed to stand in the way of the Insiders' new world order, however. On HIS FIRST DAY AS PRESIDENT, he signed the order to commence negotiations to surrender the Canal. (Folks, Does this or does this not mean that the peanut-farmer Carter (CFR) committed a treasonous act?) ...the Carter-Torrijos treaties are patently invalid on purely legal grounds since the parties did not ratify the same documents. And ... the treaties are null and void on the following counts as well: 1. Article IV of the Constitution, requiring both houses of Congress to dispose of territory and property, was by-passed when the Senate and White House transferred the Canal and Zone alone. 2. Treaties, like laws, must be repealed by both houses of Congress; repeal of the 1903 treaty was NOT voted on by the House and therefore the treaty legally remains in force. 3. These actions violated the separation of powers doctrine which is the bedrock of our system of governance. 4. No plebiscite was held in Panama on changes made to the original document that the voters approved. 5. Panama's constitution requires that country's president to sign treaties; Omar Torrijos signed, whereas Demetrio Lakas was president. The 1903 Hay-Bunau-Varilla Treaty between the united States and Panama gave the U. S. sovereignty in perpetuity over the Canal and Zone. Definition of Perpetuity: 1. lasting forever; 2. something perpetual, as a pension to be paid indefinitely; 3. unlimited time; eternity--in perpetuity forever. Source: Webster's New World Dictionary of the America Language, Second Concise Edition The Media Lords have succeeded in stifling all outrage of the American public on this issue. All the more reason to VOTE 2000 for constitutional candidates and end this tyranny by the Fabian Socialists. God bless each and everyone of you who are concerned about Freedom, Is everyone too busy making a buck (half of which goes to government) to care about the security of the Nation, which includes one's personal security? "What's more important? What you have, or who you are!" Bard You are ridiculous! You are arguing that a thief has the right to keep his stolen goods because possession is 9/10ths of the law. The canal belongs to the Panamanians. It runs through the middle of their country. The were forced to sign that stupid treaty. Who in their right mind would sign away a vital strategic and economic piece of real estate " in perpetuity " unless Godfather America made them an offer they couldn't refuse. I don't understand why the the CFR wanted to give back the canal. If any body knows, pray tell. The invasion of Panama was to set up the retaking of the Canal. We will create an excuse to send the military there. They will claim that Panama does not have any institution strong enough to defend the canal, so we'll just have to do it. The treaty reverts back to Panama at the end of the year. Rent the excellent video " The Panama Deception." Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
Re: [CTRL] Our Founding Fathers on Christianity
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- John Adams (1735-1826) 2nd President of the United States " As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion " Article 11, Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary. As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that has ever existed?" Letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816 " Indeed, Mr. Jefferson, what could be invented to debase the ancient Christianism, which Greeks, Romans, Hebrews, and Christian factions, above all the Catholics, have not fraudulently imposed upon the public? Miracles after miracles have rolled down in torrents, wave succeeding wave in the Catholic church, from the Council of Nice, and long before, to this day." To Jefferson, Dec. 3, 1813 Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) American scientist, diplomet, writer "I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works ... not holy day keeping, sermon hearing ... of making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing Deity." Works, Vol. VII p.75 "The way to see by Faith, is to shut the eye of Reason." Poor Richard, 1758 "Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." Ibid. "If we look back into history for the character of the present sects of Christianity, we shall find few that have not in turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in Pagans, but practiced it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England blamed persecution in the Romish church, but practiced it on the Puritans. They found it wrong in Bishops, but fell into the practice both here (England) and in New England." Ibid. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) 3rd President of the United States "Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisioned ; yet we have not advanced on inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." Notes on Virginia "They (the christian clergy) believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly: for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility to every form of tyranny over the mind of man. To Sr. Benjamin Rush, 1800 "On the dogmas of religion, as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarreling, fighting, burning and torturing one another, for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and to all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension of the human mind." To Carey, 1816 George Washington (1732-1799) 1st Elected President of the United States "The United States is in no manner founded on Christian principle." Treaty of Tripoli While many of the Founding Finaglers were Deists, some were religious Christians at different points in their lives. What is undeniable however, is that the country is culturally Christian. This is now changing due to non Christian immigration and Globalization's need to honor (?) other cultures with which businessmen want to do business. For a fun read on this and other issues see... " Legends, Lies Myths of American History " by Richard Shenkman Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Balkan 'Flu
-Caveat Lector- From the Independent (UK) Mother tongue divides France By John Lichfield in Paris Lionel Jospin, the Prime Minister, disagrees with Jacques Chirac, the President, who also disagrees with himself, as only he can. Mr Jospin simultaneously disagrees with his long-time friend, the Interior Minister, Jean-Pierre Chevenement, who is admittedly a rather disagreeable man. The Communists and Greens agree with the right-wing liberals but disagree with the populist wing of the Socialists who agree with the far-right National Front. France has been plunged into a Babel-like row - constitutional, political and personal - which crosses all the traditional left-right divisions. The subject is language. Should France give formal recognition for the first time to its rich heritage of regional and minority languages? Should the state officially foster Alsatian, Basque, Breton, Catalan, Corsican, Languedoc, Provencal and even Creole, several varieties of which are spoken by two million people in French overseas territories and departements? Opponents - on both right and left - say such a development would unravel more than 200 years of single-minded determination by the French state to make the republic homogeneous and indivisible. It would be a first step towards making France into a loosely connected collection of provinces, like Tony Blair's United Kingdom, or, worse still, Belgium. Mr Chevenement said it would Balkanise France. Supporters of the idea - on both left and right - say it would be a long-overdue step towards more inclusive French state, capable of cherishing its ethnic and linguistic heritage. In any case, it would commit France to doing little more than it is already doing: in Brittany, you can learn Breton at school; in Provence, the road signs are in both French and Provencal. The dispute is significant - and bad-tempered - because it is happening on the only truly active fault-line in French politics. On one side, there are the sovereigntists, republican purists, who fear that the centralising French state, and France itself, is menaced by the European Union, by globalism, by American hegemony and now (from within) by people who stubbornly insist on speaking something other than French. They include Mr Chevenement's Citizen's Movement, an anti-European, anti-American Socialist sect. This populist party has little popular support but forms a key component in the Jospin coalition. The sovereigntists also include a breakaway party of dissident Gaullists and other Eurosceptic right-wingers, launched successfully at the European elections last month by the former Gaullist interior minister, Charles Pasqua. On the other side are Mr Jospin's Socialists, the Greens and most of the rest of the centre-right. But where sits President Chirac? Uncomfortably, and absurdly, on the fence. The Gaullist President started the whole process rolling by promising Breton politicians in 1996 that France would sign the European Charter of Regional and Minority Languages, adopted in 1992 by the Council of Europe. The idea was pursued by Mr Chirac's own Gaullist prime minister, Alain Juppe, and then by his successor, Mr Jospin. Last month, France, with Mr Chirac's blessing, signed up to 39 of the 94 articles of the charter. Paris committed itself to allowing the teaching of regional languages at school and university, encouraging their cultural development and the translation of official texts and documents. It was made clear that French would remain the official and dominant language of the republic, from Calais to the Pacific Ocean. Two weeks ago France's constitutional council ruled that even this limited charter breached the first two articles of the French constitution, those stating that the the French people is "indivisible" and that the "language of the republic is French". Mr Jospin proposed a minor constitutional amendment to allow the charter to be ratified; Mr Chirac refused. In the intervening period, the breakaway, sovereigntist Gaullist party defeated his own party in the European elections. Mr Chirac, untroubled by consistency as ever decided to play a nationalist and republican card. However, the battle goes on. Both centre-right and Socialist deputies intend to launch pro-regional language, constitutional amendments in the national assembly. AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
[CTRL] Tito Redux
-Caveat Lector- From NewRepublic How Tito's training destroyed Nato hopes of a clean war Foreign Affairs Editorial Opinion (Published) Keywords: KOSOVA TITO NATO Source: Electronic Telegraph Published: 6/27/99 Author: By John Simpson Posted on 06/26/1999 23:58:06 PDT by pCahill How Tito's training destroyed Nato hopes of a clean war By John Simpson SOMEHOW it was no great surprise to read in last week's newspapers that after 11 weeks of bombing, 40,000 or so sorties and untold thousands of tons of bombs, Nato had managed to hit only 13 Serb tanks in Kosovo. It has claimed, of course, to have knocked out up to 40 per cent of the 280 or so tanks the Serbs were believed to have deployed in Kosovo, plus almost 60 per cent of their artillery and mortars. What Nato really hit were canvas and wood replicas. Colleagues of mine saw some of these in Kosovo, together with old armoured personnel carriers, broken-axled and rusting, which the Serbs had carefully left out for Nato's pilots to see. From the height they were flying it must have looked exactly like the real thing. This was precisely the kind of war the Yugoslav Army had been trained to fight; not the dirty wars of massacre and torture which Serb soldiers ended up fighting in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. For more than 30 years Marshal Tito taught his people that the real danger would be an all-out attack from the Soviet Union, and they trained themselves in the unglamorous business of hiding and dispersing their forces, so the enemy would expend effort pointlessly. That is exactly what happened; only the enemy turned out to be us. Time and again when I was in Belgrade my colleagues back in London used to ask me about signs of casualties. The military death toll must be pretty high by now, they would say; what about the funerals, the death notices, the anecdotal evidence that lives were being lost? I always answered, quite truthfully, that the only casualties I heard anything about were civilians. Not surprisingly, as it turned out. Something like 400 soldiers seem to have been killed, as compared with about 1,700 civilians. Night after night Nato would hit army barracks and government ministries, as though the Yugoslav army were obliging enough to hang around there. So we have the melancholy result that four times as many of the people Nato did not mean to hit were killed, compared with the ones it was trying to target. More schools and hospitals and old people's homes were hit than Serb tanks. Depressingly, this little war, genuinely fought for the best of motives, is a throwback to most of the other wars we have seen in this calamitous century. Victorian wars were mostly fought between armies; the Boer war ushered in an era of total warfare, where the unarmed, the innocent, the non-combatants were regarded as being just as useful a target as the military. In the Eighties and Nineties we have dared to believe that all this might change. Scarcely a single civilian died in the Falklands War; it was like a return to the neat, conclusive campaigns of the 19th century. In the Gulf war it looked as though the precision of the new weaponry meant that Western countries at least would be able, and obliged, to fight clean wars. Defence installations in Baghdad disappeared in a cloud of brick dust, while purely civilian installations were left alone. Even the terrible loss of life at the Al Amariyah shelter, when 340 women and children were killed, was a mistake: the structure was a military command centre of sorts. The fact that Western journalists were able to report wars like this from the enemy capital meant that civilian casualties would have to be kept down; public opinion would not support great loss of life among the innocent. Or so we thought. It did not turn out quite like that. Week after week in Yugoslavia Nato hit the wrong targets; names such as Aleksinac, Nis and Surdulica were thrown into public awareness by some terrible tragedy, and then (after some initial hesitation) explained away. It was enough for Nato to say it was sorry, that it had not meant to do it, for public opinion in the West to forgive and forget. Now we see the terrible evidence that made President Clinton and Tony Blair determined to carry on in spite of everything; and the torture chambers and mass graves of Kosovo will join the other dark horrors of the 20th century. But good intentions are not quite enough. In 1943 Albert Einstein contrasted the clarity of the Allies' ends with the confusion of their means in the war against Hitler. This contrast remains unfortunately as stark as ever. Maybe the evidence of Nato's failures in the face of a small and not particularly well-armed enemy will make us a little less hubristic now. Maybe we will try to get back to the way we made war against Saddam. Maybe civilian casualties will worry us more in future. Maybe. John Simpson is world affairs
[CTRL] At $150-200 K/yr, they're at wit's end?
-Caveat Lector- 6/27/99 FYI, see last graph of the AP piece below. From a PR perspective, the FL plastic surgeon quote below may turn out to be bad for docs everywhere. This quote could be used as part of a larger message that goes something like, "Patients are being used as pawns by the AMA and other doctors who say they want to unionize. Unionizing may not do what doctors say they want to accomplish either. Instead, some doctors may end up using patient information as a bargaining tool when challenging an HMO's decision. Is that the kind of medical care you want? Even Dr. Jana Rasmussen, a West Palm Beach, Fla. plastic surgeon, says that doctors are 'at wits end.' The solution to America's health care ought not be doctors grasping for straws because they want bigger paychecks.." And then maybe go into managed care's proven track record, etc.. Some consumers may not be too happy when doctors like this FL plastic surgeon say they have to resort to unionizing b/c they are at their wits end! That may signal to some that docs are thinking more with their wallets and not with their heads. By the way, this evening, appearing on the McLaughlin Hour, Karen Ignagni, AAHP, squared off with Rep. Ganske on this exact issue and she seemed to be using a samilar argument. To boot, I wasn't too convinced with Ganske's horror story examples. I think she did quite a good job and held up well [especially when she kept referring to him as Greg and not Rep. Ganske or Dr. Ganske etc..]. -A **Patients likely to get little benefit from doctor unions, experts say By Phil Galewitz, Associated Press, 06/26/99 01:02 NEW YORK (AP) Consumer groups, employers and federal regulators are warning that a drive by doctors to form unions won't deliver on promises for better health care. Even worse, they say, powerful doctor unions could bring higher costs. snip On the other side are those who feel the doctors are more concerned about restoring lucrative fees they've lost due to HMO curbs on care. To some, the fight is similar to sports team owners and their millionaire athletes. ''This is a debate between those earning six figures (doctors) and those earning seven figures (health insurance executives),'' said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, a Washington D.C. consumer health group. ''If doctors' salaries escalate, consumers will end up paying a price for that.'' Pollack said unions may help restore some balance between doctors and HMOs in making patient care decisions. But he said patient protection legislation now pending in Congress would do more. snip Employer groups who pay most health insurance premiums and often side with insurers worry the HMOs would have to increase their premiums if they must give doctors more money. ''Doctors are clearly frustrated, but we don't see this as a solution,'' said Sally Coberly, director of public policy at the Washington Business Group on Health. snip Still, the number of unionized doctors is growing. Of the 600,000 doctors nationally, roughly 40,000 belong to unions, up from only about 25,000 two years ago. Experts predict the numbers will continue to grow because of the AMA vote. In addition, Congress and several states are considering legislation giving independent doctors the right to collectively bargain. Texas this week became the first to pass a law to give doctors that leverage. The Federal Trade Commission opposes such laws, saying they could hurt consumers. Indeed, the FTC has fined doctors in central Virginia for banding together to block a new health plan from entering their market because they objected to its lower fees. Uwe Reinhardt, a health economist at Princeton University, said unions have one main goal. ''Unions enhance the quality of life for the union member,'' he said. Dr. Barry Liebowitz, president of the National Doctors Alliance, a union representing 15,000 physicians, said unions will ensure that doctors get enough time to treat patients and provide appropriate treatment. In addition, unionized doctors can be more assertive in fighting for coverage on behalf of patients without fearing retribution from the HMO, he said. ''The driving force here has
Re: [CTRL] Corruption of language
-Caveat Lector- The most effective conspiracies are implemented so slowly that no one ever notices them. In 1949 George Orwell's classic novel "1984" described how the Party devised Newspeak. Today instead of the Ministry of Truth, Newspeak and Thought Police we have the liberal media pushing politically correct speech and Echelon spying on us. WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: AOL User [EMAIL PROTECTED] How can there be humor in an illegal act followed by a threat? Sure, this is clever. But sends the wrong message. I have often noted that many members on this list are completely devoid of a funny bone!!! Lighten up - it's life. Would you rather have: humorous conspiratorialists? humorous conspirators? humorless conspiratorialists? humorless conspirators? plotting humorists? plotless humorists? the usual crowd? the flotsam jetsam of humanity? me? Of course, humor is a tool employed by mind-control technicians bent on implanting memes in the widest possible audience. If you laugh at ANY thing you've seen on this list, your mind has already been compromised. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Inside Bohemian Grove
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] could it be that the secret government in order to allay the fears of the masses simply 'allowed' a reporter into Bohemian Grove to witness a staged event that conveyed the impression of total innocence and sporty fun eg. 'mock druidic ritual' - etc I live a few miles upriver from Boho Grove and every year I see the helis flying overhead bearing the participants, hear the stories of the hookers imported for the festivities, catch a sniff of what's going on there. There's enough documentation, there've been enough penetrations of events, to convince me, a die-hard skeptic, of the dead-serious nature of the Boho conclaves. This really IS a club of The White Guys That Run Things, and they really DO play around with rituals sex power. If you don't believe me, come on up to the Russian River with a UHF scanner and listen in to the traffic. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Hilary A. Thomas wrote: This one is really good!! snip It would have been better, and a tad more real, had it gone something like this: Dear Jesus, I've thought about being a good boy this year and can I have a bicycle? Leroy Well, Leroy looked deep down in his heart, which by the way was what his mother really wanted. He knew he had been terrible and was deserving of almost nothing. He crumpled up the He crumpled up the letter, threw it in the trash can, ran down to his school and ripped one off, a much nicer one than his momma could have ever afforded in a million years. = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Corruption of language
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Richard Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The most effective conspiracies are implemented so slowly that no one ever notices them. Languages evolve. If one believes that at some point their language was at a pinnacle of perfection, able to describe every item and event that humanity encountered, then ANY change is corruption. Thus, any change in American English since the days of misogynestic slaveholding theocracy amounts to 'corruption' and is bad bad bad... The KJV bible didn't mention kilobytes, so you shouldn't either, eh? Of course, if you use a cellphone, eat organic foods or know how to edit your Win98 registry, you're one of the corrupted and are damned damned damned... Ric "corrupting language on a daily basis" Carter DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FWD:Mother Jones-NATO Used Depleted Uranium Weapons in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- Depleted Uranium: The Invisible Threat NATO used depleted uranium munitions in Kosovo. Now, critics are concerned that DU contamination may cause serious health problems for returning refugees. by j.j. richardson June 23, 1999 Related Articles: Interview: Veton Surroi (6/24/99) Serb Refugees Rejected By Belgrade (6/24/99) Reality Check: DU (6/23/99) Rape Victims Suffer Twice (6/18/99) Alternative News (Updated daily) The Balkan Tribe (January 1993, Mother Jones) More Kosovo Coverage NATO's continued bombardment of Yugoslavia had several stated goals, one of which was the safe return of hundreds of thousands of Kosovar refugees. With refugees already pouring back over the borders, attention and concern now turn to the conditions facing returning refugees: bombed roads and bridges, burned villages, and an almost non-existent civil infrastructure. But there's another potential problem: depleted uranium (DU). The Pentagon has confirmed that it used DU in Kosovo. It has also confirmed it has no plans to clean it up. Depleted uranium is twice as heavy as lead. As a result, ammunition made from DU can pierce just about any armor. But while it's extremely effective as an anti-tank weapon, DU does have a downside: It is radioactive and, in dust form, it can cause serious internal injuries. A waste product of nuclear weapon manufacturing and reactor use, depleted uranium is only about half as radioactive as natural uranium. When used in combat, the uranium in the bullet or round ignites upon impact and, when it combines with oxygen, forms a toxic cloud of uranium oxide dust. Solid uranium is not harmful; DU is toxic only if the dust is inhaled or ingested, or if DU-contaminated shrapnel enters the body. Once oxidized, the dust -- which remains toxic to those who may inhale or ingest it -- settles in the immediate area and is also dispersed by wind and rain. What risks does DU pose to returning refugees? It depends on who you ask. Predictably, the Pentagon denies that the DU used in Kosovo poses any danger to the refugees. Indeed, it cites a number of studies in support of its conclusion. But there are a number of critics who say, essentially, the Pentagon is lying. Significantly, one of the biggest critics of the Pentagon's policy on DU is a former U.S. Army officer who was in charge of cleaning up DU after the Gulf War. Doug Rokke served as the Theatre 12th Preventative Medicine Command health physicist with the 3rd U.S. Army Medical Command in the Persian Gulf War. Rokke had overall responsibility for radiological safety in the war, and his team was charged with the "clean up" of DU-contaminated battlefields and equipment in Iraq, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia. His team never received any specialized training or protective gear. Within two weeks of his return from duty in the Middle East, Rokke and the other members of his DU assessment team began developing health problems. "The Department of Defense doesn't want to admit that DU is harmful because they don't want the liability," he says. In March of 1991, Rokke says he received a faxed memorandum from Lt. Col. Ziehmn of Los Alamos National Laboratory suggesting "that we didn't 'find' anything that would disrupt the military's use of depleted uranium. They were using it, period." In the past eight years, most of the original team has developed health problems, and some have died, according to Rokke. Rokke himself has had severe kidney and respiratory problems. A urinalysis conducted in March of 1994 -- three years after he returned to the States -- showed that the level of uranium present in his urine exceeded the normal level by more than 2,000 percent. Lt. Col. Diane Lawhon, a spokesperson for the Pentagon's Office of the Special Assistant for the Gulf War Illnesses [OSAGWI] acknowledges that DU weaponry gives off "minor radiation," but says that the DU released in such "minute fragments ... should not be a health concern for returning refugees." According to Lawhon, "Uranium is all around us, in the air, the soil ... when exposed [to DU] the body just assimilates it." The MoJo Wire received a faxed confirmation from Department of Defense press officer Lt. Col. Mike Milord that the Pentagon does not have plans to clean up the DU contamination in Kosovo: "No. It's use has been minimal and we do not believe it poses any significant health risk." Rokke, of course, disagrees. The key to determining the danger posed to refugees, he says, is the quantity of DU used in Kosovo. That fact is impossible to determine given that the Pentagon refuses to release any information about its use of DU, beyond a general acknowledgement that it was used. However, by taking into account the number of sorties the A-10 Warthogs (the planes firing the DU bullets, according to the Pentagon) were flying per day, the estimated percentage of those sorties which actually fired DU rounds, and the number of rounds their guns hold, it is possible to arrive
Re: [CTRL] Who's better Bush or Gore. WAS:[CTRL] algore - ..raci...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/27/99 10:05:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but let's be realistic here and accept the fact that there is next to no hope of anything changing. Teo1000 Race you the oven, eh? Sure, but you go first. LOL Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Drudge: WASHINGTON DC PLANNING FOR 'MASSIVE' Y2K MOBILIZATION OF EMERGENCY PERSONNEL (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- WASHINGTON DC PLANNING FOR 'MASSIVE' Y2K MOBILIZATION OF EMERGENCY PERSONNEL XX DRUDGE REPORT X SUNDAY, JUNE 27, 1999 22:39:22 ET XX WASHINGTON DC PLANNING FOR 'MASSIVE' Y2K MOBILIZATION OF EMERGENCY PERSONNEL The District of Columbia government, recognizing that its year 2000 repair program likely will not be completed on time, is feverishly planning for a "massive New Year's Eve mobilization of emergency personnel and other staff to ensure critical city services are not interrupted if computer systems fail," the WASHINGTON POST is reporting in a Page One scare story on Monday. = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OT: Drudge: WASHINGTON DC PLANNING FOR 'MASSIVE' Y2K MOBILIZATION OF EMERGENCY PERSONNEL (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Full article below: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3776e50d54ed.htm Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/longterm/y2k/y2k.htm Published: Monday, June 28, 1999; Page A1 Author: By Eric Lipton --- Staff Writer Posted on 06/27/1999 19:59:25 PDT by ABC123 District Prepares for Y2K System Failures By Eric Lipton Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, June 28, 1999; Page A1 The District government, recognizing that its year 2000 repair program likely will not be completed on time, is planning a massive New Year's Eve mobilization of emergency personnel and other staff to ensure that critical city services are not interrupted if computer systems fail. Police will be stationed at more than 120 locations across the city, working 12-hour shifts, to take walk-in requests for emergency services. Twenty-one "warming centers," each supplied with food, water and cots, will open. School crossing guards will be on call, ready to replace traffic lights at major intersections. And D.C. General Hospital will have extra staff members as many as 175 on site. These are just a few of the 88 contingency and emergency plans the District is feverishly working to put in place by the end of the year. Similar efforts are underway across the United States among governments and private companies, but in the District, officials have acknowledged the city is so far behind on its Y2K fix that it may have to rely on some of these "work-around" techniques. "Because we began late, there may be things that suffer an interruption that we did not completely get to," said D.C. Chief Technology Officer Suzanne J. Peck. "Within our agencies ... in some function, a handful may fail temporarily." Officials are confident that most of these plans even those that will be put into effect regardless of any system failure will not be needed, and that even in the District, Y2K will be one of the century's most hyped nonevents. City officials want to convince the public that the new year will begin in the nation's capital without chaos no matter what happens with D.C. operations or outside services such as telephone, gas and electricity. "Our intent is not to alarm people, but put people at ease that things are under control," Mayor Anthony A. Williams (D) said yesterday. "We are going to have this city work for people." Added Cmdr. David B. McDonald, the supervisor of police Y2K planning: "We want to reassure the residents and visitors to the District that even if Armageddon comes, we will assist and protect the public." The D.C. Council will be briefed on the public safety contingency plans at an oversight hearing this morning. The District's own assessment of its progress in making year 2000 fixes demonstrates the need for such planning: With six months left in the year, only 41 percent of the District's 336 major computer systems have been fixed. The rest are scheduled to be repaired and tested by the end of October. Of the city's 73 agencies, 19 including key departments such as Health, Housing and Community Development; Tax and Revenue; Child and Family Services; and Public Works are not even halfway done with their year 2000 repairs and planning. Williams said he is "not at all surprised" that so much work remains, given the city's late start on addressing the Y2K problem. But he added that he is reasonably comfortable with the status of the city's Y2K repair efforts and has the impression that the District is about even with other major cities, saying the city may be understating its "readiness." Virginia and Maryland, by comparison, say their government systems are virtually Y2K-proof, and while they also have contingency plans, they are more confident that they won't have to use them. The year 2000 computer glitch, popularly known as Y2K, stems from the use in many computer systems of two-digit date fields, leading many machines to interpret "00" as 1900, not 2000. This could cause systems to transmit bad data, malfunction or crash. The District's late start is largely to blame for its lagging effort. While Maryland and Virginia began working on the problem several years ago, the District waited until last summer. Recognizing the danger of a catastrophic failure in the city, Congress gave the District $62 million in emergency funding this year to accelerate the work. But even with an army of more than 300 consultants at work most under a $76 million contract with IBM Corp. success is far from assured. The struggle at D.C. General Hospital illustrates the challenge. D.C. General and its related health care divisions are about 48 percent "ready," according to ratings released Wednesday by the District's year 2000 program. The hospital's mainframe computer system which handles medical records, patient accounts, budgeting, laboratory data, patient registration and other hospital operations will falter at year's end unless several million dollars in repairs are made. The
Re: [CTRL] Humor: This one is really good!!
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: snip He crumpled up the letter, threw it in the trash can, ran down to his school and ripped one off, a much nicer one than his momma could have ever afforded in a million years. I forgot to mention that he felt good about himself after he ganked his new bike, and he appreciated this "new" bike much more than any new one his momma would have bought him because felt in his heart that HE WORKED FOR AND EARNED THIS ONE! = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
