[CTRL] American Sovereignty Restoration Act
-Caveat Lector- June 22, 2001 Dear Liberty Activist, H.R. 1146 - American Sovereignty Restoration Act is now featured in our current legislation section. H.R. 1146 would withdraw the United States from the United Nations and prohibit U.S. armed forces from serving under U.N. command. Herbert W. Titus, our senior legal advisor, has written an analysis of H.R. 1146. In his analysis, Mr. Titus argues: 1. The Charter of the United Nations is illegitimate; having never been lawfully ratified. 2. The Charter of the United Nations unlawfully delegates congressional and presidential war powers. 3. The United Nations General Assembly has no lawful power to require the United States to pay dues to the United Nations. 4. The Charter of the United Nations unconstitutionally usurps power reserved to the states by the Tenth Amendment. 5. H.R. 1146 - The American Sovereignty Restoration Act is the only viable solution to the continual abuses by the United Nations. A brief description of H.R. 1146 and a link to Mr. Titus's analysis (HTML format and Adobe PDF format) is at http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/bills/?bill=39551 For people who use Webtv or don't have Adobe Acrobat Reader, Mr. Titus's America: Republic or Democracy? is now available in HTML. Go to http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/repdemstart.htm Kent Snyder The Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Who is AGENT PROVOCATEUR?
-Caveat Lector- We have a new poster, Agent Provocateur. It is time for the usual speculation as to which current or former CTRL personality this person really is. The mail is from an easily-gotten Yahoo account. The odds: Bill Cooper 7/2 Colleen Jones8/1 Henry Ayre 12/1 Peter Anthony30/1 flw 100/1 Mike Spitzer200/1 Prudy 800/1 nessie 800/1 Kris 1000/1 --- AGENT PROVOCATEUR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Greetings! I am completely new to all of this...On the present subject, I can only say that if you are unhappy now...just wait until they move to the next stage...legitimizing sex between children and adults and between people and animals...ya'll are seeing only the tip of the iceberg at this point. Of course the lying homosexuals will vehemently deny...but just hang around long enough and see the next small steps in a new direction to come down the road..the Americans never have been able to learn the lesson of the slippery slope...but fear not...God took care of this type of situation in the past and you CAN bet everything you have that He IS going to step in and handle things again...this time for the last time. agentprovocateurus ;oD --- Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- So here are two interesting items; first the usual propaganda put out by UN for they want money and the money will be used to promote sodomy in the schools. SNIP = Jeff Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Men are jerks. Women are psychotic. -- Kurt Vonnegut (in Timequake) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Pentagon's Laser Crowd Controller
-Caveat Lector- The Pentagon has developed a new non-lethal beam projection device to control crowds that utilizes millimeter-wave electromagnetic energy, according to Defense Department sources. Since when is a device that utilizes millimeter-wave electromagnetic energy a laser!?! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Recession Now Hits Mexico
-Caveat Lector- But don't fret. The American kids will be employed making the 'survival kits' to give the illegals. On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 18:21:32 EDT Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- A recession hiting Mexico is not good for the USA. This means that there will a flood of illigals coming across the border. Can the economy in the USA absorp them? Not all of them. This means that crime will go up. This also means that the illigals will be taking the jobs that graduating classes from high schools would normally expect to fill. These kids will be out of work, what will they do to earn a living? This is not good. BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Andrea Yates And Family Values
http://wsws.org/articles/2001/jul2001/yate-j02.shtml Very salient and observant! Kudos on this piece!! Bill. http://wsws.org/articles/2001/jul2001/yate-j02.shtmlTexas mother drowns children: Andrea Yates and "family values" By David Walsh 2 July 2001 The tragic and shocking case of five young children in a Houston, Texas suburb drowned by their mother, Andrea Yates, has grabbed the attention of millions of people. While other facts will no doubt emerge, those that have already come to light paint a disturbing picture of a certain kind of American life and mentality. Until the terrible events of June 20, Russell and Andrea Yates and their five children were the kind of family that a Ronald Reagan might have pointed to as a model for America, or that might have been paraded on the platform at a Republican national convention: responsible, professional father; stay-at-home mom and home-school teacher; well-scrubbed, neatly dressed, smiling childrena tribute to traditional family values, as envisioned by the Christian right. According to a statement she gave police, Yates drowned her children one after the other in the familys bathtub. She told the authorities that she had first drowned the younger sonsJohn, 5, Paul, 3, Luke 2. While she was attempting to do the same to her six-month-old daughter, seven-year-old Noah walked in and asked, Whats wrong with Mary? Yates confessed to chasing Noah through the house and dragging him back to the bathroom. When police arrived, Yates reportedly told them, I just killed my kids. The bodies of the four youngest were found still wet under a sheet on a bed. Noah was found in the bathtub. To drown, in this methodical and implacable manner, five of ones own children is a horrifying act, inconceivable under normal and even most abnormal circumstances. With one exception, these were not infants. The physical strength alone required, much less the emotional desperation, suggests a state something akin to possession. This was clearly a woman plunged into the deepest despair and madness. Yates, 36 (she turns 37 on July 2), is currently being held in the Harris County Jail, under suicide watch, on capital murder charges. Prosecutors have not yet indicated whether they will seek the death penalty. She faces the charges in the toughest death-penalty jurisdiction in the US, and, for that matter, one of the harshest in the Western world. If Harris County were a state, its 62 executions since 1977 would put it third behind Texas and Virginia. Texas as a whole has put to death 248 people in that period. Yatess attorney, George Parnham, has indicated that the defense will most likely plead not guilty by reason of insanity. On June 25 Parnham described Andrea Yates as being in a very deep psychotic state, and observed that he had not yet been able to hold a rational conversation with his client. What we know of Andrea Yates suggests that she was a loving and caring personand not only in relation to her own children. She had worked as a nurse at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center from 1986 to 1994, one of the countrys leading cancer treatment centers. Moreover, she was the one of her parents five children who apparently spent the most time with her dying father as he struggled with Alzheimers disease. Yates grew up in the Houston area. Her father, a high school auto shop teacher, had flown bombing missions over Germany in World War II; her mother was born in that country. Yates, a member of the National Honor Society and captain of the swim team, finished second in her high school graduating class of 1982. After finishing a two-year pre-nursing program at the University of Houston, Yates continued at the University of Texas School of Nursing in Houston, graduating in 1986. She then went to work at the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center. Andrea married Russell Yates in 1993; they had known each other for four years and were both 28. Around the time that her first child, Noah, was born, ten months later, Yates gave up her job. Her state nursing license became inactive two years after that. Yates had four more children over the next seven years. Following the birth of her fourth child, in June 1999, she tried to commit suicide. According to the Houston Chronicle, the attempt took place in her parents southeast Houston houseand she tried to kill herself with an overdose of her fathers Alzheimers medication. Despite this, Yates became pregnant again in early 2000 and gave birth to her fifth child in November. Her father died in March. Russell Yates has said that his wife had taken four drugs for her emotional difficulties. One of them, Haldol (haloperidol) is particularly powerful, utilized, according to a mental health monograph, in the management of manifestations of acute and chronic psychosis, including schizophrenia and manic states. Andrea started using the drug, often prescribed for people hearing voices or thinking
Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Sounds pretty good. Which authorities should go first? On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 08:44:54 -0700 Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Specifically, should the authorities use a world population reduction program as an opportunity to remove specific populations that are historically troublesome, backward, or otherwise undesirable? The authorities, ALL the authorities, should take poison and thus save humanity the trouble of stretching thier necks. But to answer your question, yes, by all means we must unite to destroy the one specific population group which is responsible for virtually all of our problem, the ruling class. The plutocrats and thier lackeys are a cancer on the world's body politic. They must be excised by any means necessary, save one. We must never pursue a course of action which would lead to them being replaced. Our problem is not the individuals which constitute the present ruling class, but the existence of the class itself. Destroying them is not enough. We must destroy it. They live in mansions and palaces. It lives in the mind of thier victims. We must cast out of our own minds the bogus notion that we need to be ruled. They we can run our own lives, as individuals, as local communities and as the great community of mankind. We can do this. We have the numbers. We have the technology. All that we lack is the will. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. Teens Struggle With History
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Monday July 2 4:47 PM ET U.S. Teens Struggle With History By SONJA BARISIC, Associated Press Writer NORFOLK, Va. (AP) - One in five American teen-agers doesn't know the answer to this grade-school history question: From what country did America declare its independence? Twenty-two percent of those who responded to the survey commissioned by the Colonial Williamsburg Foundation did not know the answer was England. Fourteen percent thought it was France. ``When you look at these numbers, it means that more than 5 million U.S. teen-agers don't understand the true meaning of Independence Day,'' said Colin Campbell, president of the foundation that runs Colonial Williamsburg, the restored 18th-century capital. The nationwide telephone survey of 1,020 youngsters ages 12 to 17 was conducted May 31 to June 5 and has a margin of error was plus or minus 3 percentage points. Nearly all those surveyed knew that Washington, D.C., is the U.S. capital and that George W. Bush is president. However: -One in 10 did not know George Washington was the first president. -17 percent did not know there were 13 original colonies. -15 percent did not know the Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776. -Nearly one in four did not know who fought in the Civil War; 13 percent thought it was the United States and England. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Californians cut power use 12 percent last month
-Caveat Lector- You obviously resent California, probably for voting for Democrats. Like I said, we were the #1 energy conservation state in America long before energy prices started going up. Steve On 2 Jul 01, at 15:03, Jeff Russo wrote: Gray Davis can push all he wants, people didn't really react until it started affecting their wallet. Now THAT's typical. - j ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Coos Co. man wants a gun in every house
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Coos Co. man wants a gun in every house Former sheriff Mike Cook proposes an ordinance that he says would not be enforced but might well deter crime Sunday, July 1, 2001 -- -- By Wendy Owen, Correspondent, The Oregonian COQUILLE -- A former Coos County sheriff is hoping the pen is mightier than the . . . rifle. Mike Cook wants Coos County Commissioners to pass an ordinance requiring every household to have a firearm, but he said it doesn't have to be enforced. It's the written law he hopes will scare away criminals, much like a beware of dog sign on a gate. Cook, who works part-time at a North Bend gun shop, said the death of a 15-year-old Coquille girl last summer had sparked his plan. A lot of people in the community, especially a lot of ladies, were nervous about their safety, Cook said. I thought this has really got the community upset. So, Cook hopped on the Internet and came across an article about a gun ordinance in Kennesaw, Ga. that was credited for helping reduce crime in the town by requiring a gun in every household. The effect of the ordinance was unforeseen, said Cpl. Craig Graydon of the Kennesaw Police Department. The city council had passed the law in 1982 as a political statement, supporting the right to bear arms after a town in Illinois had banned handguns. But a year after its highly publicized passage, crimes fell by 27 percent, according to police records. The number of crimes has remained at 1982 levels despite a jump in Kennesaw's population from 5,000 to 19,000 during the past 19 years. Graydon said word of the ordinance must have spread in criminal circles as a result of the widespread media coverage. While the nation concentrated on Kennesaw, the city council in Chiloquin, north of Klamath Falls, passed a similar ordinance, which stands today. Neither of the towns enforces the laws and both documents contain loopholes for citizens who can't have firearms because of their religion, a disability, criminal record or because they are philosophically opposed to the idea. The Coos County ordinance would hold the same provisions. The law didn't change anything in Chiloquin, said Joyce Smith, the mayor and city recorder. The town of 716 has always had very little crime. News accounts in 1982 quote Chiloquin city council members as supporting the ordinance out of worry that Californians moving to the area would bring their anti-gun ideas with them and restrict firearms in town. In the early 1990s, a new city council reviewed the ordinance as it cleaned its books of useless laws -- such as making it a crime to kick off the head of a snake sticking through the boardwalk -- but the unenforceable gun ordinance remained, Smith said -- I think because it puts us on the map and it's a good conversation starter. A citizen's group in Jackson County tried to pass a similar ordinance in 1993 but failed. Neighboring Josephine County passed a charter amendment in 1994 forbidding any new law that would infringe upon rights of citizens to bear arms. A statewide attempt in 1993 by then-Rep. Liz VanLeeuwen, R-Halsey, would have required gun ownership and training as a deterrent to crime. It didn't even make it to the House Judiciary Committee. VanLeeuwen, who served in the House between 1980 and 1999, said she still believes every household should have a gun, especially in rural areas. I think what sparked it for me is people who live where I do would never get a law officer (in time). You'd be gone. That's pretty slow help, she said. If you're prepared and strong, someone is not so apt to attack. When Virgin, Utah, passed a similar ordinance last year, the town of 400 people made international news. According to reports, three U.S. cities have repealed similar laws they passed. Coos County Commissioners agreed to meet with Cook to discuss the proposed ordinance, but they're going in with eyebrows raised. Commissioner Nikki Whitty said she wants to get local law enforcement's thoughts about the ordinance, including how to implement the law when it has no enforcement mechanism. Coos County Sheriff Andy Jackson said he doesn't believe the unenforced law would cause additional problems from more guns in the hands of more people. But he does sees it as a hypocrisy. From what I hear, nobody wants to be forced into a demand to have a gun, just like people don't want guns taken away, he said. Cook guessed that almost every household in Coos County already has a gun in it, as was the case in Virgin, Kennesaw and Chiloquin. It's not going to change things that much, Cook said of the law. But it will tell the world, 'Don't mess with us.' *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to
Re: [CTRL] North says publicly that he'll seek seat if district goes his way
-Caveat Lector- Why mention lying, as if it's important, as if this is 50 years ago NO ONE CARED WHEN THE FIRST LIARS LIED FOR 8 YEARS UNTIL THEY DESTROYED THE AMERICA THAT WE ONCE KNEW. WHY IS THIS EVEN MENTIONED? WE ALL KNOW there are NO MORE rules, no more ethics, no more credibility, no more conscience, no more good courts, no more justice, etc etc All these virtues are out moded, old fashioned, and everything old fashioned is to be thrown on the heap, in favor of filth, lies, perversion, betrayal, corruption, etc. It's the style of the NEW WORLD ORDER. Too many Americans just don't care, and so we will all have to pay, perhaps some with our lives. On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:55:45 EDT Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 06/26/2001 11:12:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RICHMOND -- Oliver North told about 80 Republican and local government officials in southwest Virginia on Sunday that he would run for Congress if an appropriate district were created for him this year. ``If they build it, I will run,'' North said in a telephone interview, paraphrasing a line from the movie ``Field of Dreams. As I recall, this bozo lied to Congress and bragged about it. He'll be right at home in the House. Of course when Republicans lie it's okay--God has issued them a special permit. And when Congressmen lie that's just a tactic. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fox News Unbalanced
-Caveat Lector- FOX is crazy if they change. You think ABC, CBS and NBC will EVERR allow anything more than about 3% conservative comment??? NEVER! Forget the balance issue. Until we get several more conservative (that is, tell SOME of the truth) networks there is NO balance. Whover does not like it can change the channel. - On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:51:50 -0300 Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Fox News Channel Said Unbalanced NEW YORK (AP) - Fox News Channel is anything but fair and balanced when it comes to political guests, a watchdog group has charged. Fifty of 56 partisan guests interviewed on Brit Hume's daily news show over a five-month period earlier this year were Republican, and only six were Democrats, the liberal group Fairness Accuracy in Reporting said. In an admittedly more subjective analysis, FAIR said 65 of the show's 92 total guests were conservative politically. ``Fox portrays itself as fair and balanced, as straight news,'' said Steve Rendall, a FAIR senior analyst. ``It's media consumer fraud.'' Hume said he would look into the group's findings, and correct it if he noticed any imbalance. Executives at the cable news network, which has been gaining on rival CNN in the ratings over the past few years, have repeatedly denied any right-wing tilt in news coverage. Its slogan is ``fair and balanced,'' although founder Roger Ailes has called Fox an alternative to what he regards as a left-leaning CNN. FAIR said it purposely chose to look at Hume's news report instead of more commentary-based shows like ``The O'Reilly Factor.'' Rendall said the differential between Republican and Democratic, conservative and liberal guests was ``breathtaking.'' ``There's nothing wrong with it,'' he said. ``They can be proud of it. But I don't think anybody is served by mislabeling a conservative news product as fair and balanced.'' Hume said FAIR's view of political bias may be different than most. And he said news factors - FAIR watched during the first few months of a Republican administration, at a time the GOP also controlled Congress - played a part in bookings. ``We don't strive for mathematical balance,'' he said. ``We strive for an overall balanced outlook.'' Hume also said his is not a political debate show, and he often doesn't know the leanings of his guests. FAIR also studied Wolf Blitzer's news program on CNN during the same period and found that of 67 partisan guests, 38 were Republicans and 29 were Democrats. FAIR's founder, Jeff Cohen, appears regularly as a commentator on Fox News Channel. The group said he played no part in the study. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?
-Caveat Lector- Nessie, I've heard of his report but not read it yet; he's not mainstream. Do you have a title or a URL? Thanks in advance Tenorlove --- Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Hess lived to a ripe old age in Spandau Prison, according to mainstream reports. Hugh Thomas made a compelling case to the contrary. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- The problem isss: WHO is qualified to decide which groups are 'troublesome, backward and undesirable' Ah, there is the problem. What if WHOEVER decides you/yours are in that category??? On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:49:46 EDT Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/01/2001 11:03:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does it make any difference WHICH populations have their future births carefully planned by the authorities to achieve the end of world population reduction? Specifically, should the authorities use a world population reduction program as an opportunity to remove specific populations that are historically troublesome, backward, or otherwise undesirable? You must think people are a lot dumber than I give them credit for. We don't need authorities to plan which or whom or anything. We need real education regarding family planning and child rearing. I would have loved to have a third child, but I knew that two were all we could afford. Bill Gates can have hudreds, although there is another kind of investment necessary to successfully rear a child--time; and that just might keep even him limiting it to no more than ten. One of the few places I've ever seen intelligent explanation to people given regarding the limiting of family size was on Egyptian television. It said everything anyone could need to know, and it was done with cartoons. A ten year old could have gotten the idea. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that children are an expensive luxury in more ways than one. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Increasingly, US stands alone on Sudan
-Caveat Lector- Don't sue the US govt. Sue the devil who bombed you!! - On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 14:28:12 -0300 Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Increasingly, US stands alone on Sudan EU nations move towards engagement By Declan Walsh, Globe Correspondent, 7/1/2001 http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/182/nation/Increasingly_US_stands_alone _on_Sudan+.shtml HARTOUM, Sudan - There are few tourist traps in this city of blast-furnace temperatures, grinding poverty, and strict Muslim laws. But one unlikely attraction is to be found on the northern edge of town, where the ugly industrial zone trails off into the desert. A smiling guard welcomes visitors to El Shifa, the manufacturing plant destroyed by a deadly barrage of American cruise missiles in 1998. President Clinton, who ordered the attack, claimed the factory was a secret chemical weapons facility; Sudan said it manufactured life-saving medicines. Now the owner is bringing a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the US government and, to prove his point, allows anyone who wishes to look around. ''We respect America, but she did something bad for us here,'' said Abdul el-Munign, a young man who guides the curious through the rubble. This stark skeleton of El Shifa is also a symbol of the persistent enmity between the United States and Sudan's Islamic regime. For the United States, Sudan is a pariah state in the same league as Iraq, North Korea, and Afghanistan. American companies are prohibited from doing business here, the US Embassy is officially closed, and the State Department still considers Khartoum to be a terrorist safe haven. But recently other nations, particularly in Europe, have started to reject America's policy of isolating Sudan. Since last year, Britain, France, the Netherlands, and other European Union countries have undertaken a policy of ''constructive engagement'' with President Omar el-Bashir's government. That has meant renewed contacts with government officials, funding for a program to combat the slave trade, and turning a blind eye to United Nations sanctions imposed in 1996. The move has sparked a quiet but heated war of words in the air-conditioned cool of Western diplomatic circles here. ''The Americans often give the impression that all they want to do is overthrow the government,'' grumbled one senior European diplomat. American officials retort that Europe is turning a blind eye to official brutality in the name of pragmatic politics. One prickly question lies at the heart of the debate: whether one of the world's most notorious ''rogue'' regimes is capable of reforming itself from within. The regime here, which came to power in a 1989 military coup, has done much to warrant its unenviable reputation. In its early years Khartoum was a city of fear, where opposition figures disappeared into notorious ''ghost houses,'' never to reemerge. Osama Bin Laden, the Islamic fundamentalist suspected of masterminding the 1998 bombings of US embassies in east Africa, used to reside here. More recently the government has been accused of terrible abuses in prosecuting the 18-year-old war against southern-based rebels: razing villages to clear the way for lucrative oil exploration, fueling the slave trade, and mercilessly bombing civilian and humanitarian targets in the rebel-held south. In Washington, an eclectic coalition of conservative Christians and black rights activists have turned Sudan into a political hot potato. The most influential campaigner is the Rev. Franklin Graham, the head of the evangelical charity Samaritan's Purse and a confidant of President Bush, who has advocated further military strikes against the Khartoum government, which he describes as ''pure evil.'' That description infuriates Sudan's government. ''We are mistreated more than any other country in the world,'' said Mahdi Ibrahim, a presidential adviser recently appointed minister of information. Ibrahim also objected to frequent portrayal of the civil war as a religious one that pits northern Muslims against southern Christians. ''Two million southerners are living in Khartoum. Why would they come if we were persecuting them?'' he asked. One answer is that they had little choice. Most southerners fled to Khartoum to escape the fighting and have been forced to live in huge, squalid camps that ring the city and lack the most basic facilities. Many complain of being treated as second-class citizens. But religious intolerance appears to be waning. Islamic sharia law has been in force in northern Sudan since 1983 but is loosely enforced these days. A small number of women refuse to wear the veil in public, and alcohol is tolerated in private homes. The number of judicial amputations of convicted criminals has also fallen. Nevertheless,
[CTRL] The Joys Of Living In A Tax Hungry State
-Caveat Lector- DAILY TELEGRAPH TUESDAY JULY 03 2001 Roadblocks stop German tax-dodgers FROM ALLAN HALL IN BERLIN GERMANY is deploying police flying squads backed up with helicopters and sniffer dogs and ordering roadside strip-searches after £1 billion was seized in a year from tax-dodgers trying to put their savings in foreign bank accounts. The country's frontiers with Switzerland and Luxembourg are now among the most heavily policed in Europe. Berlin believes that the record figure for seizures will double this year. Werner Eberhardt, the head of Customs, said: Tax evasion has developed into a mass sport in Germany. It is estimated that £300 billion of undeclared money is hidden from Germany's revenue department, mostly in Switzerland and Luxembourg. Hans Eichel, the Finance Minister, has called it a national scandal and has ordered the patrols to be strengthened this week before the introduction of the euro in six months. This is the time when people with illegal money are going there to try to get it out and when others are making deposits with large amounts of marks that will soon be out of circulation, he said. The roadside checks involve the arrest of anyone carrying more than £10,000 in any currency. One lady even tried to throw herself under the wheels of a car when she was stopped with hidden money, said Herr Eberhardt. She was saved by officials but was still prosecuted. Recently police have been seizing large amounts of cash daily near the Swiss-German border crossing points. In one day 30 consignments of money were found - each one accompanied by a tall story about its origin. I won it in the lottery, said one man. I inherited it from an aunt in Canada, said a woman stopped with £500,000. I won it at a casino, said another. Other smugglers offer the customs officials money. Take what you want is an invitation that leads to a further charge of attempting to bribe an official. The money is found in glove compartments, in hollowed-out French baguettes, in the sunroof, under mats and in biscuit tins. People hide it in their underwear, and the police have set up strip-search caravans beside main roads. Police need no concrete reason to stop people. You see a car and something clicks and you stop it, said one customs official. He added that there were certain models that send out signals more than others - a Mercedes S-class from Munich or Hamburg is more likely to have black money aboard than an Opel Rekord from Leipzig. Older people are far more likely to be stopped than youngsters, and couples far more likely to be stopped than individual travellers. A dead cert is an older guy with a much younger woman at his side, said the official. They combine their trip abroad with a secret adventure. They often hid their money from their wives as well as from the revenue department. Lawyers, car-dealers, butchers, a 72-year-old watchmaker and a 90-year-old widower with £150,000 in cash from a secret account in Zurich are among those who have been stopped. Several hundred people have been fined up to 50 per cent of the amount they were trying to smuggle, several sent to prison for six-month stretches and all have had to pay back interest on their illicit money. Anyone who makes a break for it loses all their money instantly. The race is on to get money away because of large taxes on savings in Germany - and to recover it from foreign banks in advance of European Union rules that come into effect by 2010 by which those banks must notify tax departments of interest on an individual´s account. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] please verify entries
-Caveat Lector- JOHN PORTER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ADD ALSO [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those are the email addresses to post to the groups. To subscribe, you need the URLs: http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/ELITEPOWER http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/ILLUMINATI __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Jul 01, at 17:22, c. wrote: Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC. yes, exactly- it doesn't contain SIGNIFICANT amounts of thc (and the others) because it is a variety of cannabis that has been grown for the material and not the resin. i can't even be botherred going on about it in more detail as it is not pertinent- you *must* see the point i am making. You are making my point: Hemp is a variety of cannabis sativa grown for fiber. Marijuana is a variety grown for THC content. They are *different varieties* as you have admitted. Do you know the meaning of different? It does not mean 'the same'. A great dane is not the same dog as a chiuaua, even though they are the same species. Confusing hemp with the drug marijuana is exactly one of the methods the US government uses to make people believe that legalizing hemp production will lead to more marijuana use. Regarding whether I am acquainted with the effects of marijuana: I am quite familiar with marijuana; I live in N. California where some of the finest marijuana in the world is grown. (Another reason conservatives like Bill Howard just hate California.) And yes I do know what happens when you smoke too much. :~| Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Equine infectious anemia
Interesting item whereby an HIV type disease is passed on by horse flies etc., and horses are either destroyed or isolated to prevent the spread of this disease. Recenly read about horses what carried HIV/immune problems and yet, horse serums are used in making of hormones. Quite a bit of information on the web re disease of horses which I noted when horses in Kentucky had colts that aborted. 1960 when this disease became wider spread started an investigation into same; however, at this time also, JFK had ordered an investigation into all rugs back to 1930 coal tar derivitves became very popular after WWII, even replacing quinine but during Viet Nam war these coal tar derivities were causing serious problems to soldiers who had acquired malaria resulting in call for Quinine and there was none to be had for Dutch had cornered the market. Horse serums used quite a bit ... Saba Equine infectious anemia Equine infectious anemia, commonly known by the abbreviation EIA, has been infecting horses in the United States for over 100 years. However, it was not commonly seen as a problem until the late '60s/early '70s when an outbreak of the disease was seen in the increasing thoroughbred racing industry. At this point, scientists and researchers began studying to find ways of controlling the virus. EIA is a viral disease that is, to this point, untreatable. It operates by destroying blood cells and is related to HIV, which causes AIDS in humans. Also known as swamp fever, EIA appears to be most present in humid, wet areas. This is mostly because of the abundance of insect vectors (including deerflies and horseflies) in wet, swampy areas that carry the virus. The transmission of EIA is most sufficient through these insect vectors. These insects are able to transfer large enough amounts of infected blood to transmit the disease from an infected horse to a healthy one. Also, since insect vectors have painful bites, their meals are often interrupted by their host, in which case the flies will move to another host to finish their meal; thus, the flies have the ability to spread the disease to a number of horses quite quickly. EIA can also be transferred by the use of contaminated syringes, needles, and surgical tools. The virus can also be transferred as easily as using tack on several horses that has been in contact with an abrasion of an infected horse. EIA is able to produce three different types of infection: acute cases, chronic cases, and inapparent cases. In acute cases, the virus takes over and destroys red blood cells, which causes anemia and inflammation that causes organ damage. Other symptoms include high fever, depression, weight loss, and blood shot eyes. Acute cases often result in death; however, those horses that survive tend to become chronic cases. In chronic cases of EIA, horses remain in a continuous state of having non-life-threatening symptoms or have episodes of acute cases, which are easily brought on by heat and work-related stress. Inapparent cases are horses that are carrying the virus but show none of the symptoms and appear to be healthy, yet they are able to transmit the disease. Extensive study and research began in the mid-1960s in order to find a way of identifying the virus in both sick and inapparent carriers of EIA. It was not until 1972 that a reliable test, developed by LeRoy Coggins, was invented. The Coggins test uses agar-gel-immunodiffusion methods in order to detect the presence of antibodies to the virus in a blood sample. Because of its reliability, the Coggins test is used as the standard test for all traveling horses. Horses with EIA have the virus for life. There have been enough cases that have been traced back to inapparent carriers to make those horses a threat to the surrounding horse population. Because of this possible danger, all horses that have tested positive for EIA must be either humanely destroyed or branded with a special number and quarantined for life. The quarantine requires a 200-yard buffer zone between the infected horse and other horses. Special quarantine farms have been created to which positive horses can be sent in order to live the rest of their lives in the company of other horses. The very strict controls on EIA-positive horses have been enforced for the past twenty-five years. Because of this control, EIA is no longer a serious threat to horses and horse owners in the United States. The numbers of recognized cases have fallen steadily in the past few years. Hopefully, they will continue to do so. Title: Equine infectious anemia Description:Equine infectious anemia, is a disease closely related to HIV that infects horses. Learn more about this illness. Copyright 2001 by PageWise, Inc. PageWise makes no representations about the content published on this site. It is provided as is and without warranties of any kind. PageWise hereby disclaims all warranties and conditions with regard to this information, and user agrees
[CTRL] FOX: Flight Attendant Says Condit Asked Her to Lie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,28665,00.html Flight Attendant Says Condit Asked Her to Lie Monday, July 02, 2001 By Rita Cosby FOXNews Washington, D.C. - A flight attendant who said she had a long-term affair with Rep. Gary Condit says the congressman asked her to sign a declaration denying their relationship, and told her she did not need to talk to the FBI following the disappearance of Chandra Levy. Anne Marie Smith, 39, said in an exclusive interview with Fox News that she refused to sign the draft of a declaration that was submitted by Condit attorneys to her lawyers, and insisted the California Democrat knew the document was a lie. Mr. Condit knew it was false and he was asking me to sign it and, I personally could never have signed it, Smith said in an interview on Monday. I would never have signed it. And he was urging me to sign it, he said you don't want anything, this could be personally embarrassing for both of us. Smith's lawyers on Monday evening supplied Fox News with a copy of what they said was a draft of the declaration. They said the document contained a note written by Don Thornton, an investigator who works with Condit's West Coast attorney. Jim Robinson, Smith's attorney, claims to have had a phone conversation with Thornton in which the latter referred to the form as an affidavit. Robinson says the document is indeed an affidavit, as opposed to a declaration, since it is composed of the specialized vocabulary of the legal profession called legalese. Lawyers for Condit said on Monday night they did not know of any such document. Thornton spoke with Fox News and also denied any knowledge of the form. Condit lawyers have declined to comment on any relationship he may have had with Smith. Smith also said she told Condit she had spoken to the FBI about the Levy case. I left him a voicemail and I said, 'You need to call me, it's urgent,' she said. She said he called back the next day, and that he did not respond well when she told him what was happening. I said, I have been contacted by this agency, and I want you to know and I said, you know, it was just a routine questioning, they said they would keep my name confidential, she told Fox News. He was really upset with me, he said, 'Oh, I see how you are, I see what you're doing.' And I said, 'No, you know, I've never been in a situation like this.' ... He said 'You don't have to talk to the media, you don't have to talk to anybody. You don't even have to talk to the FBI.' Smith reportedly told the FBI she ended a year-long romantic relationship with Condit when she saw press reports about Levy, the missing Washington intern, a source close to the woman told Fox News. Smith said she has not spoken to Condit since one or two weeks before the 24-year-old disappeared. Smith also said she knew the California Democrat was married and suspected he might be seeing someone else, but she didn't know for sure. Smith also said Condit told her he was lonely in Washington, with his chronically ill wife spending 99 percent of her time in California. Condit has been the subject of much media and law enforcement attention in the weeks since he broke off his close friendship with Levy. He broke off the friendship only two days before she disappeared, the congressman told investigators, according to Fox News police sources. The congressman provided the new details about his relationship with Levy in a second, hour-long interview with police, but stopped short of saying whether he and the 24-year-old had a romantic relationship, the sources said. Condit did, however, strongly hint the two had been lovers, the sources said. When Condit delicately broke things off with Levy with the explanation that she was moving back to California, she was distraught, refusing to take no for an answer and even becoming obsessed with him, the sources said. Levy called Condit several times on a special line in the 24 hours before she vanished, but he never returned those calls, the sources said. Condit, 53 and married, has repeatedly said through public statements that he and Levy were only good friends, with his staff denying there was a romantic relationship. Levy's parents, Susan and Robert Levy of Modesto, Calif., have hired former Washington homicide detectives to scour their daughter's Washington studio apartment for fibers, love letters, notes and any other clues that could help them find out what happened to their daughter, who has not been seen since April 30. Fox News' Mike Emmanuel contributed to this report. Fox News Network, LLC 2001. All rights reserved. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A
Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- At 11:49 AM 7/2/01 -0400, Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/01/2001 11:03:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does it make any difference WHICH populations have their future births carefully planned by the authorities to achieve the end of world population reduction? Specifically, should the authorities use a world population reduction program as an opportunity to remove specific populations that are historically troublesome, backward, or otherwise undesirable? You must think people are a lot dumber than I give them credit for. We don't need authorities to plan which or whom or anything. We need real education regarding family planning and child rearing. Who shall provide the real education that we need regarding family planing and child rearing? E.g. Is it your expectation that all population groups will spontaneously realize that they should do the family planning and child rearing necessary to achieve world population reduction? Or, does someone need to write a curriculum for the real education that is required to be done to achieve world population reduction? Who shall write the curriculum? Who will implement the curriculum? Should the curriculum be targeted at specific populations? Shall those who write and implement the curriculum target the real education and consequent population reduction to specific populations that are historically troublesome, backward, or otherwise undesirable? If the world population is to be reduced, does it matter which specific populations are reduced? I appreciate your serious response. DBC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cooper cracks Chandra Levy case!
-Caveat Lector- It's elementary my Dear Watson. Fact: Congressman Condit was married and had a wife, far, far away in Modesto, California, Fact: Congressman Condit was a horndog who liked to have affairs with bimboes. Fact: Congresman Condit voted FOR the impeachment of ex-President Pants-on-Fire. Deduction: Chandra Levy did not commit suicide, because: a) suicides leave suicide notes, and b). suicides want their bodies to be found, so that c.) the person that caused them to commit suicide gets the message that they are dirty rats. Operatives for ex-President Pants-on-Fire learned of Condit's highly compromising affair with Levy and identified on opportunity to settle a score with a traitor. Levy was intercepted as she was leaving her apartment or on the way to the airport by associates of the Clinton crime syndicate. She was discreetly and efficiently put out of her earthly misery, and her body was disposed of along side Jimma Hoffa's, wherever that might be. The murderers returned Levy's luggage, wallet, cell phone, etc to her apartment, and later disposed of her apartment keys. The Sting: Condit is now fully exposed as a philanderer, looks like an evasive liar because he doesn't have any of the answers the FBI and the public is looking for, and also stands a good chance of being put on trial for murder. A powerful message to anyone who might think about double-crossing the Clinton mob, So there you have it, Watson: motive, opportunity, method. Contact Scotland Yard and have them arrest William Clinton, and everyone who has ever worked for the Clinton's, and you will have your man, or more precisely, men AND women. Case closed. DBCooper A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Unraveling Tesla's Greatest Secret
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 06:57:16 + From: Robert Sterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Konformist: Unraveling Tesla's Greatest Secret To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://educate-yourself.org/radiantenergystory.html http://rense.com/general11/tesla.htm Radiant Energy - Unraveling Tesla's Greatest Secret By Ken Adachi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6-26-1 [The story you are about to read is derived from a carefully researched paper presented by Dr. Peter Lindemann before a private audience in Irvine, California on September 12, 2000. The lecture was titled The Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity . It detailed the story of Radiant Energy and its successful application by Edwin Gray in an over unity motor design which Gray debuted in 1973. The real detective work ( credit) in uncovering Tesla's discovery of Radiant energy came from author Gerry Vassilatos in his recent book, Secrets of Cold War Technology without which Lindemann could not have solved the enigma of Gray's Radiant circuit design. This lecture delivered the goods. The secret of Tesla's Radiant Energy has finally been revealed in manifold detail and only awaits the industry of those who care to study and understand it. Part1 presents a general overview of Tesla's discovery and the political, intrigues that led to its subsequent suppression. Part 2 will detail the nuts and bolts of how Tesla produced Radiant Energy with block diagrams, schematics, and drawings from Tesla's original patents to illustrate all of the necessary elements and parameters required. Additional details on Gray's modern adaptation of Tesla's Radiant circuitry and a brief look at Eric Dollard, the only man to successfully recreate Tesla's Colorado Springs Magnifying transmitter and reproduce the pure steaming white rays of Radiant energy in 1986 exactly as described by Tesla in his Colorado journals. Ken Adachi] Of all the great inventions and discoveries of Nikola Tesla, nothing stood out with greater potential benefit to the whole of humanity than his discovery of Radiant Energy in 1889. The series of observations that led to the discovery of Radiant energy initially grew out of experiments that Tesla had conducted in an attempt to duplicate the results that Heinrich Hertz had claimed to achieve in affirming the existence of electromagnetic waves, the discovery of which Hertz announced in 1887. While replicating Hertz's experiments, Tesla experimented with violently abrupt DC electrical discharges and discovered a new force in the process. Only after conducting exhaustive experimental trials for the next three years, did Tesla announce this stupendous discovery in a paper published in December, 1892, entitled The Dissipation of Electricity. Incredibly, most academicians of the day completely missed the mark in understanding the true significance of his paper. Noted scientists such as Sir Oliver Lodge, mistakenly thought that Tesla was referring to high frequency AC electricity in the operation of the Tesla Transformer, a huge blunder that remains to this day in the misnaming and misinterpretation of the Tesla Coil. The transformer that Tesla referred to in the 1892 paper did not operate on magnetic/electric field induction created by alternating currents. It operated in an entirely new domain of physics based on abrupt discharges of electrostatic potentials and the subsequent release of kinetic Radiant Energy from the omnipresent ether. Tesla was now operating under entirely new rules which he referred to as dynamic electro- static forces and had, by now, completely abandoned any further interest in the AC waveform. The genesis of the Lodge misunderstanding, however, began a few years earlier with the publication of certainmathematical formulas by a brilliant Scotsman named James Clerk Maxwell. Maxwell's Equations Using mathematical models, James Clerk Maxwell had earlier suggested that two different types of electrical disturbances could possibly exist in Nature. One type was a longitudinal electric wave which required alternating concentrations of densified and rarefied pulsations of electrostaticfields that moved along a single vector (today, we refer to these as standing waves or scalar waves). Maxwell ultimately rejected this idea because he was convinced that this type of wave propagation was impossible to achieve, but his assumption was erroneous and would later portend formidable consequences for Tesla and the world at large. Maxwell's second wave postulation was that of a transverse electromagnetic wave that exhibited a rapid alternation of electric fields along a fixed axis that radiated away from its point of origin at the speed of light and was detectable at great distances. Maxwell
[CTRL] Face Views
-Caveat Lector- http://home.pacbell.net/stevew77/New_Face4.mpg At many different angles, it still looks like a Face. Can the Face talk? If it could, what would it say? Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Jul 01, at 17:22, c. wrote: Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC. yes, exactly- it doesn't contain SIGNIFICANT amounts of thc (and the others) because it is a variety of cannabis that has been grown for the material and not the resin. i can't even be botherred going on about it in more detail as it is not pertinent- you *must* see the point i am making. You are making my point: Hemp is a variety of cannabis sativa grown for fiber. Marijuana is a variety grown for THC content. They are *different varieties* as you have admitted. Do you know the meaning of different? It does not mean 'the same'. A great dane is not the same dog as a chiuaua, even though they are the same species. Both are dogs but they are not the same! Confusing hemp with the drug marijuana is exactly one of the methods the US government uses to make people believe that legalizing hemp production will lead to more marijuana use. Regarding whether I am acquainted with the effects of marijuana: I am quite familiar with marijuana; I live in N. California where some of the finest marijuana in the world is grown. (Another reason some people detest Californians.) And yes I do know what happens when you smoke too much. :~| Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [GCFL] Origin of the Internet
-Caveat Lector- http://www.gcfl.net An old, bearded shepherd with a crooked staff walked up to a stone pulpit and said, And lo, it came to pass that the trader by the name of Abraham.Com did take unto himself a young wife by the name of Dot. And Dot Com was a comely woman, broad of shoulder and long of leg. Indeed, she had been called Amazon Dot Com. And she said unto Abraham, her husband, Why dost thou travel far, from town to town, with thy goods when thou can trade without ever leaving thy tent? And Abraham did look at her as though she were several saddle bags short of a camel load, but simply said, How, dear? And Dot replied, I will place drums in all the towns (and drums in between the towns) to send messages saying what you have for sale and they will reply, telling you which hath the best price. And the sale can be made on the drums and delivery made by Uriah's Pony Stable (UPS). Abraham thought long and decided he would let Dot have her way with the drums. And the drums rang out and were an immediate success. Abraham sold all the goods he had, at the top price, without ever moving from his tent. But this success did arouse envy. A man named Maccabia did secret himself inside Abraham's drum and was accused of insider trading. And lo, the land was so feverish with joy at the new riches and the deafening sound of drums, that no one noticed the real riches were going to the drum maker, one Brother William of Gates, who bought up every drum company in the land. And, indeed, he did insist on making drums that would work only if you bought Brother Gates' drumsticks. And Dot said, Oh, Abraham, what we have started is being taken over by others. And, as Abraham looked out over the Bay of Ezekiel, or as it came to be known, eBay, he said, We need a name that reflects what we are, and Dot replied, Young Ambitious Hebrew Owner Operators. Whoopee!, said Abraham. No, YAHOO! said Dot Com...and that is how it all began. It wasn't Al Gore after all. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Here's the math for the new AOL offer...
-Caveat Lector- A guy named Absolute Robeo figured it out: Check out AOL's new offer: 1000 hours free for 45 days. You've got to love how these guys think. It is technically possible to use 1000 hours in 45 days. It would leave you 80 hours of non-computer time in your month and a half. We can start off by assuming you're not employed or a student, because if you were, you wouldn't be using AOL in the first place. You now have 1 hour and 45 minutes each day that are non-AOL. Let's keep you sane -- you can sleep an hour a day. Leaves 45 minutes. Eating, even if mostly done in front of the computer, is going to take some time going back and forth to the kitchen and wiping crumbs off the keyboard. 15 minutes more, down to half an hour. Basic bodily functions will take another 15 minutes a day if you really conserve trips. That leaves you 15 minutes to yourself per day, time you can use to sit back, close your eyes, and reflect on what an absolute loser you must be to take them up on this offer in the first place. http://AbsoluteRobeo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jewish Group's Phony Fatwa Slammed as Publicity Stunt
-Caveat Lector- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE JEWISH GROUP'S PHONY FATWA SLAMMED AS PUBLICITY STUNT American Jewish Committee accused of boosting book sales by smearing Muslims (WASHINGTON, D.C., 7/2/2001) - The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today condemned a prominent Jewish organization for promoting what it called a phony fatwa to boost sales of a new book on Islam for Jews. The Washington-based Islamic advocacy group says the American Jewish Committee (AJC) is claiming a fatwa, or Islamic legal ruling, has been issued against the writer of its new book Children of Abraham: An Introduction to Islam for Jews despite the fact that the alleged authors of the ruling disavow any such action. CAIR called on the AJC to stop smearing Muslims for political and financial gain. For weeks, the AJC has been trying to interest reporters in an article from what the State Department called a fairly marginal newspaper with a limited readership that criticized Khalid Duran, the author of Children of Abraham. The AJC and Duran's attorney attempted to portray the article as a fatwa and death edict from the Islamic Action Front in Jordan. On Saturday, that group said no such ruling had been issued. (Associated Press, 6/30/2001) Duran's attorney, Michael J. Wildes, is the same person who promoted a 1998 story about an alleged Pakistani scientist who claimed that country was planning a nuclear first-strike on India. Scientific experts who interviewed the defector pronounced him a fraud. (USA Today, 7/7/98) SEE: http://www.fair.org/extra/9901/emerson.html It is despicable that the American Jewish Committee, despite its stated intent of fostering interfaith understanding, would engage in a cheap publicity stunt to boost book sales at the expense of Muslims and Islam. To succeed in promoting this 'phony fatwa,' the AJC had to shamelessly smear Islam by tapping into and exploiting existing anti-Muslim stereotyping and bias, said CAIR Board Chairman Omar Ahmad. This is also part of a failed campaign by pro-Israel extremists to hand-pick Muslim 'leaders,' to counter growing American Muslim political activism and to distract attention from news items such as war crimes charges filed in Belgium against Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, said Ahmad. Ahmad also questioned why the AJC would seek to, on its own, create a new Salman Rushdie scenario when no one in the Muslim world had even heard of the alleged fatwa. (The AJC and the ADL were the only groups to testify before Congress in support of the use of secret evidence against Muslims and Arabs. AJC Executive Director David A. Harris wrote in the May 28, 2001, issue of The Jerusalem Report: We [the pro-Israel lobby] dare not underestimate the Arab and Muslim lobbies [in America] or delude ourselves as to their ultimate objectives. The stakes are too high. The call for action by American Jewry, together with Israel, is clear.) Since its publication in May, CAIR criticized Duran's book as a laundry list of hot-button issues that have often been used to stereotype Islam. The Muslim group also said the choice of Duran as the author was inappropriate because of his mysterious identity (Duran is apparently not his real name), his past conviction for defaming an Islamic center in Germany, his vocal support for a group on the State Department list of designated terrorist organizations, and his close ties to infamous Muslim bashers. (Rabbi Reuven Firestone wrote a companion AJC publication, Children of Abraham: An Introduction to Judaism for Muslims that did not take Duran's polemical approach. CAIR representatives have consistently noted that Khalid Duran has the right to write anything he wishes and that the AJC has the right to publish any book it chooses, no matter how distorted or inaccurate.) A Publishers Weekly (5/28/2001) review of Children of Abraham said: He [Duran] writes that 'the history of Jewish-Muslim relations is so complex that one can list as many positive as negative examples of their interaction,' yet he relates mostly the negative ones, sabotaging his ostensible purpose. He also misstates facts about Islam and women in Islam, and mishandles the description of dhimmi (minority status) in Islam. His many controversial assertions lack supporting evidence. He presents farfetched, incendiary theories, such as, 'the culprits in the Oklahoma City bombing [the Euro-American Timothy McVeigh and his fellow militia members] had an association' with the terrorist Osama Bin Ladin...The Islam described here is ritualistic, suspicious, misguided and overpowered by Islamists...Most troublesome is his habit of analogizing Islamic behavior to Nazi behavior. The juxtaposition, like the book, treads an unwise path. The Chicago Tribune wrote: When asked by the Tribune to examine the contents of the books, several experts on Islam and veterans of interfaith dialogue concluded that some of those fears [about the book's stereotypical content] may be justified. Although
[CTRL] The Dallas Morning News: Obituaries (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 10:18:42 -0500 To: Multiple recipients of JFK_News Subject: The Dallas Morning News: Obituaries JFK News -- Click Here: A HREF=http://www.dallasnews.com/obituaries/406985_dixonobit_30me.html;The Dallas Morning News: Obituaries/A Rites set for Robert Dixon, 65 UP chief retired after 41-year police career 06/30/2001 By Lee Zethraus / The Dallas Morning News Former University Park Police Chief Robert O. Dixon had started to follow through on his retirement plans. He was drafting stories based on cases he'd worked during his 41-year career, family members said. But those stories will be left unfinished. Mr. Dixon, 65, who also served with the Dallas Police Department, died early Thursday at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas of complications from Devic syndrome, a disease similar to multiple sclerosis, said his son, Doug Dixon. Services will at 12:30 p.m. Monday at Restland Memorial Chapel. A viewing is scheduled from 3 to 5 p.m. Sunday at Restland Funeral Home. Doug Dixon said his father was the quintessential police officer. It was his whole life, said Mr. Dixon, who added that his father would be buried in his University Park chief's uniform. He loved Dallas. He loved University Park. And he loved being a policeman. Robert Dixon retired from University Park in January 2000. He was hired by the city in 1985, the year he retired from the Dallas department. He did a wonderful job and served our community well, said University Park Mayor Harold Peek. He always conducted himself with the highest ethical principles and integrity. He was a good man. Mr. Dixon started in Dallas in 1958 as a patrol officer. He earned a bachelor's degree in law enforcement/police science in 1972 from Sam Houston State University and a master's in liberal arts in 1977 from Southern Methodist University. One of his first beats was to patrol portions of Oak Cliff. In 1963, he was assigned to the security detail at Market Center the day President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. His regular beat was the evening relief for Officer J.D. Tippit, who was shot that day by Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. Dixon told The Dallas Morning News in 1999 that he worked his regular shift that evening, thinking that was the best way he could help in the tragic situation. He was promoted to detective, lieutenant and captain. He served as director of internal affairs and eventually was named deputy chief, serving in the central patrol and criminal investigations divisions. The former chief said he had worked many cases, but the ones in University Park during recent years that were especially shocking. They included a murder-for-hire scheme and the slaying of a University Park mother in front of her three children. Retired Dallas Capt. Doyle Tolleson said he and Mr. Dixon became friends while working in internal affairs. The main thing was that he tried to treat everybody fairly, Mr. Tolleson said. In addition to his son, Mr. Dixon is survived by his wife of 46 years, Dorothy Dixon of Rowlett; grandchildren Michelle Schupbach, Aaron Dixon and Andy Dixon; two great-granddaughters, Taylor Schupbach and Breayna Schupbach, both of Mesquite; and a sister, Shirley Perkins of Linden, Texas. Members of the University Park Police Department will serve as pallbearers, and the Dallas Police Department will provide an honor guard, Mr. Dixon said. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why Japan did not invade Hawaii....
-Caveat Lector- In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes -Caveat Lector- This really says it all when discussing gun control! In 1960, Robert Menard was a Commander aboard the USS Constellation when he was part of a meeting between United States Navy personnel and their counterparts in the Japanese Defense Forces. Fifteen years had passed since VJ day, most of those at the meeting were WWII veterans, and men who had fought each other to the death at sea were now comrades in battle who could confide in one another. Someone at the table asked a Japanese admiral why, with the Pacific Fleet devastated at Pearl Harbor and the mainland US forces in what Japan had to know was a pathetic state of unreadiness, Japan had not simply invaded the West Coast. Commander Menard would never forget the crafty look on the Japanese commander's face as he frankly answered the question. You are right, he told the Americans. We did indeed know much about your preparedness. We knew that probably every second home in your country contained firearms. We knew that your country actually had state championships for private citizens shooting military rifles. We were not fools to set foot in such quicksand. Any chance of a full citation for the source of this story? Without proper documentation it is useless as intellectual ammunition against the victim disarmers. -- Dr. Chris R. Tame, Director Libertarian Alliance| The secret of Happiness is Freedom, | 25 Chapter Chambers | and the secret of Freedom is Courage | Esterbrooke Street | Thucydides, Pericles' Funeral Oration | London SW1P 4NN England Tel: 020 7821 5502 Fax: 020 7834 2031 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LA Web Site: http://www.libertarian-alliance.com/ Free Life Web Site: http://www.whig.org.uk A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Aleisha's Sexual Identity Problem (was: Good Example of None Dare Call it Propaganda)
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote: I remember being a young boy in Jericho when The American Council came Really, Aleisha! When in your life did you change from the male sex to ostensibly the female sex? ;-) June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Shalem! Waging a Total Economic, Financial and Information War against every single Anti-Semitic individual wherever he hides.
-Caveat Lector- Is anyone familiar with this organization? My B.S. detectors are ringing at jumbo jet volume. I think this is anti-Semitic disinformation. Thanks in advance. Tenorlove Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:52:50 +0300 Letter #10044 / 26370 Tel Aviv, Sunday July 2nd, 2001. Shalem! http://NeShalem.org.il Waging a Total Economic, Financial and Information War against every single Anti-Semitic individual wherever he may hide. Dear Jew, As you know Anti-Semitism is growing everyday. Its material cause is the poor condition of worldwide economy. Did you know that there is a direct link between the 1929 financial and economic Crisis, the 1929 Massacre of Jews in Hebron http://www.wzo.org.il/home/politic/1929.htm And the democratic rising to Power of Hitler? http://aish.com/holocaust/headlines/he70d23.htm Anti-Semitism may strike all the Jews regardless of who they are, Parents, Children, or Grand Parents. It knows no borders: It doesn't make a difference between the Bronx, Brooklyn or Manhattan, Tel Aviv, Geneva or Hebron. Germany the U.S. or Israel, they are indifferent to borderlines. Economy and financial markets are the most powerful weapons on earth. I have hence decided to show The Jews how they can help their People, protect their own self and even profit from the Crash that will take place on March 14th, 2002. It will be done in an indiscriminative way. But you won't have to wait that far. On July 14th will take place an event that will allow us to profit in a significant manner from large swings of the market. So starting Friday 13th, 2001 I will be giving to the Members of the SmartGroups of Shalem! , In real time, the actual orders I will be passing and the result of the executions. I will also, as soon as possible deliver a Mathematical model and its Computerized application that will tell you, before the arbitrageurs themselves become actually aware of them, what will be their next move. Why does a Jew give away such great services for free? Because who saves a Jew saves the World... So 6,000,000 Jews is a business proposition I can't refuse. Not even for all the money in the World. Can you? In 1929 HaHagana wanted to give weapons to the Jews of Hebron, which they refused to take... Thursday, 16 Av 5689 (August 1929) Members of the Hagana arrive in Hebron from Jerusalem. They requested to leave weapons in Hebron, in the bank, so as not to be found and confiscated by the British police. [The Jews in Hebron refused the weapons. The responded that they had nothing to worry about. Hebron's Arabs were their friends. They had no need for weapons.] Megillat Hebron by Aharon and Breine Bernzweig, Monday, Sept. 2, 1929 http://www.hebron.org.il/pics/tarpat/megillathebron.htm [] Denotes editor's of http://www.hebron.org.il. The massacre took place on 18 Av 5689. You can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meet you soon at: Shalem! http://NeShalem.org.il Waging The Total Economic, Financial and Information War against every single Anti-Semitic individual wherever he may hide. Shalem! Pessach Sameach! Shalom. (c) Jerusalem 5762 all rights reserved for ever to the Jewish People United in Peace, Security, Prosperity with Personal Freedom and Fulfillment. You are granted free use of this letter and you can quote it freely as long as the address of the Site of Shalem! Is given to the reader. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:]
[CTRL] NYP: HOW MANY MUST DIE BEFORE SHARON STRIKES?
-Caveat Lector- HOW MANY MUST DIE BEFORE SHARON STRIKES? Sidney Zion NY Post June 4, 2001 -- 'NOW is the time to strike. In a day or two it will be too late, the world will quickly forget the 19 Israeli children murdered by Yasser Arafat - they will only remember his phony promise to stop the violence. This is Peter Malkin talking, and when he talks I pay attention - and so should Israel and the White House. Malkin was the Mossad operations chief for 15 years. He received Israel's medal of honor from two prime ministers. He also captured Adolf Eichmann. I caught him in New York yesterday, and asked him exactly what Israel could do to end the intifada that blew up all those kids in a Tel Aviv disco on Friday night. The army, first of all, must go into Gaza and take the heavy arms that Arafat has been smuggling in for eight years. This can be done in two or three days. If we don't do it, Arafat will be able to turn on the terror whenever he pleases - even if he stops it for a while now. Guaranteed, there is more than we now know. In intelligence, what you know is a small part of the truth. We found this out in Lebanon, 20 years ago, when Arafat was running his PLO mini- state. Enormous weapons were found, far more than we thought. Two or three days? The Israeli defense minister said the same a few months ago, but didn't say how it could be done. The tanks cut Gaza in three places and you go and take it away, that simple, says Malkin. But at what price? Some Israelis claim it would be a blood bath, that hundreds of Palestinian children would die. Nonsense, Malkin says. These weapons, which include everything from mortars to anti-tank missiles, are buried in the sands. The children, the civilian population in general, will not be endangered. How about the rifles in the hands of the Palestinian Authority police, now 50,000 strong? Most of them will run away with the rifles. We should never have armed them, this was a big mistake, but if we go in with full force it will not be a terrible problem. And the suicide bombers, how to stop them? This happened when Arafat released them from the prisons, against his promises in the Oslo agreements. He knows where they are and he can jail them again. We must go after them ourselves, to hell with whether they are in the so-called Palestinian- controlled areas, says Malkin. It will be difficult, but we have to try - and with proper intelligence we will succeed. Beyond all of this, Malkin wants Israel to ban Arafat from Israel and the territories. This is very important, he says. We must disconnect this murderer from his gangs. Arik Sharon worries that he will be called Milosevic if he moves in strongly. But Arafat is the real Milosevic. Would America, I ask you, allow such a killer to stay in the country? The latest news out of the Israeli government is to hold off in order to see whether Arafat makes good on his call for an unconditional ceasefire. How would keeping him out do anything but destroy that chance? It will help, if anything can help, says Malkin. Arafat cannot be trusted, he has broken every promise he ever made. Disconnect him, and we will see what he will do. He has cell phones and faxes, he can control his killers from afar if he wishes. And if not, the Palestinians will have to decide whether he is or isn't their leader. And we will know if he has the power to make peace. Better than if he stays in Ramallah or Gaza? Better by far, Malkin says. We have to let him know and let his people know that the death of 19 children will not be forgotten. What are the parents of these children to think if we let it go by, as we have since Oslo? The world seems to insist that the blame for the terror is on Israel, because they will not remove the settlements on the West Bank and Gaza. Malkin's answer to that is a question: Is Tel Aviv a Jewish settlement?*** And then he asks me as follows: Would any American bank take Yasser Arafat's signature on a loan? Not even as a co-signer, I answer. So we are supposed to take his word on life and death? ***[Note from Hebron - Several months ago Abdul Aziz Rantisi, spokesman for Hamas said, We have to clean out all the settlements, and start with the first one, in Tel Aviv.] === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread
[CTRL] Israeli Official Calls Illegal Palestinians 'Lice'
-Caveat Lector- I recall another time and another country where government officials called some in their country lice and vermin. I think it was a country in Europe and was about 60 years ago. flw The Washington Post Israeli Official Calls Illegal Palestinians 'Lice' Associated Press Tuesday, July 3, 2001; Page A12 JERUSALEM, July 2 -- Israel's tourism minister today referred to Palestinians working and living illegally in Israel as lice and a cancer that must be stopped from spreading. The minister, Rehavam Zeevi, heads the far-right Moledet party that advocates the expulsion of Arabs living under Israeli rule. He has often made derogatory remarks about Palestinians, His inclusion in Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's center-right coalition sparked protests earlier this year. Speaking on Israel army radio, Zeevi said about 180,000 Palestinians live in Israel illegally. He added: They arrived here and are trying to become citizens because they want social security and welfare payments. We should get rid of the ones who are not Israeli citizens the same way you get rid of lice. We have to stop this cancer from spreading within us. © 2001 The Washington Post Company A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: AIDS Epidemic Takes Toll on Black Women
People in Mississippi just voted to retain their Confederate flag as part of the State flag and they WON. This item above is the major reason I do not want homosexuals around my family or my grandson.I do not feel sorry for this woman, I feel sorry for someone who might have been with her and then raped someone else - for obviously any client of hers would be about the lowest life on earth. This is how AIDS spreads; and as far as I am concerned this woman was a killer - and they want to take guns away from citizens to protect their families and turn loose these savages in the streets to spread disease. Do I want my little grandson when he goes to school to be in a school with this element running around - little babies born without AIDS.a Secretary of the UN wants billions to fight AIDS when those bastards and the likes of a Clinton are responsible for the spreading of same? Even horses now have this virus - this HIV/AIDS..everything on the planet is dying unless we protect our children from this element which desires to destroy them ..it is now said this one man wants little 2 year olds to be forced to go to school - half of them aren't even potty trained and would you want your chld to share a bathroom with these potential killers walking the streets spreading this disease. Saba This item made be disgusted; for I feel no sympathy for her..horses when they carry this disease are shot or quarantined and they want people like this walking the streets? Just Say No to Sodomy. Do you see why the South wanted seregation in articular in sharing bathrooms? Or water fountains and why I believe Jesse Jackson should be sent to jail for spitting in food served to others. Welcome, saba22 Sign Up for Newsletters | Log Out Go to Advanced Search July 3, 2001 AIDS AT 20 / In the South, a Different Face AIDS Epidemic Takes Toll on Black Women By KEVIN SACK Michelle V. Agins/The New York Times After years of unprotected sex, Tyeste W. Roney, 20, learned in February that she was H.I.V. positive. Recollections on the Age of AIDS (July 3, 2001) Product to Protect Women From H.I.V. Is Elusive (July 3, 2001) Expanded Coverage Join a Discussion on the AIDS Epidemic Michelle V. Agins/The New York Times Dr. Hamza O. Brimah, the only AIDS specialist in a nine-county area around Greenwood, Miss., examined Tyeste W. Roney at his clinic. Michelle V. Agins/The New York Times Jean, with a mask partly concealing her face, contracted AIDS after years of unprotected sex. ``I guess I just blocked it out of my mind,´´ she said. GREENWOOD, Miss. Here in the rural South, the image of AIDS today looks very much like Tyeste W. Roney. Not a gay white man. Not a crack-addicted prostitute. But a 20-year-old black woman with a gold stud in her nose, an orange bandanna covering her braids, and her nickname, Easha, tattooed on one leg. [Saba Note and I wonder who pierced her ear and put a stud in her snout? And tattooed her leg - with her track record think it was done by someone who followed strict safety standards? Did some little kids may have their ears pierced using same needle?] In the back of her mind at least, Ms. Roney had known for years that she could contract H.I.V. by having unprotected sex. Her mother had been telling her so since Ms. Roney was 13, when she lost her virginity. But either the lesson did not stick, or Ms. Roney did not have the power to negotiate safer sex with older lovers. She says that many of the men she can count as partners did not use condoms. [Saba Note: Isn't this lovely conversation for the newspapers - keep in mind 1 in 5 black homosexuals have AIDS] In February, after enduring 10 days of bleeding, Ms. Roney went to a health clinic. First a nurse surprised her by telling her that she had been pregnant and had miscarried. Then the nurse asked Ms. Roney if she knew she was carrying the virus that causes AIDS. I said, `Get out of here, that can´t be so,´ Ms. Roney recalled. I just broke down and cried. I thought I wasn´t going to be here long. Maybe a month. It is a scene that has become all too familiar for poor black women here in the Mississippi Delta and across the rural South. Even as the AIDS epidemic has subsided elsewhere in the United States, it has taken firm root among women in places like Greenwood, where messages about prevention and protection are often overtaken by the daily struggle to get by. Researchers say that in many ways the epidemic in the South more closely resembles the situation of the developing world than of the rest of the country. Joblessness, substance abuse, teenage pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases, inadequate schools, minimal access to health care and entrenched poverty all conspire here to thwart the progress that has been made among other high-risk groups, particularly gay men. While AIDS rates in the United States remain lower among women than men, women now account for a fourth of all newly diagnosed
[CTRL] Fwd: AIDS Epidemic Takes Toll on Black Women
this is the most disgusting thing I have ever read in my life. WE ARE to feel sorry for this woman with ring through nose and a carrier of disease roaming streets in Mississipi War on Aids - War Using Aids is more like it. And this garbage wants to share our bathrooms, dinner wear, and - oh read this garbage. It is sickening.New York Times - imagine what New York is like and is there an epdemic not bein reported there/ And all these blacks on TV kissing whites with their big fat mail box mouths makes me sick. Uggg. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/03/health/03AIDS.html?todaysheadlines
[CTRL] Fwd: serum sickness
This one disease caused most serious side effet isn't this what the Legionaires Disease was called at one time? During this period of time when the Legionaires died, (Legion Air) it was said caused by air conditioning?However this serious side effect as if the other side effects were nothing of which to complain, swollen joints, arthritis and etc., and one wonders of arthritis in part might be caused by some of these vaccines? My bible calendar code the day the Legionaires officially met in July that year was My Name is Legion for we are many and the disease entered into the swine who in turn paniced - and run to the sea for the disease enters into the swine. Now I remember Gerald Ford taking his swine flu shot during this time frame for people would not take it saying it was toxic. So Ford like Eisenhower did to fluoride, Ford had his picture taken receiving the Swine Flu shot. Might add at one time the American Legion was a secret society when first formed according to one source. Many of the men at that convention were elderly - also there was a meeting of Catholic Church . How easy to put poison into air conditioning units.. Also find symbolism of the French Foreign Legion here - for they are many and fought war in Viet Nam and in Morocco long before America stepped in as I recall. Bacteria Warfare and Chemical Warfare and now are animals in the fields eating the grass being affected as well as people? Lot of hungry lawyers out there looking not only for a cause but big bucks.but always these harmless side effects and now the US Government plans to innoculate little babies with this filty AIDS vaccine because homosexuals do not know enough to change their lifestyle even though the Grim Reaper awaits them? And if horseflies can spread horse AIDS.well little kids going into State Parks where these homosexuals hang around in bathrooms - Saba http://www.drhull.com/EncyMaster/S/serum_sickness.html
[CTRL] Fwd: i have a conspiracy theory
i live in the UK and as u probaly know, there has been a serios bout of foot and mouth, what if i was to tell u that the government knew about it months before? Exactly!!! the paper suits that the men wore when they were destroying the animals were all ordered by the government back in December and foot and mouth didnt strike till february. And the sleepers o which were used 2 burn the cattle were bought at this time, aswell as the plantation equiptment, ie the men and the machinery were all booked back in December. Ontop of all this 3 test tubes containing the foot and mouth disease went missing from a lab in december aswell. that means that the government could have started the whole thing. or terrorists started it, and when the government refused 2 pay they released the bug, which would explain the violent spread of the disease throught the country and the pockets that occured, aswell as the sporadic reocurrances. It all makes sense if you were a terrorist organisation. cause no1 would see u and there would b no evidence, aswell as the government has paid alot out in compensation, and the government would release a statement saying that they could have avoiided the whole thing. esecialy now that their have been dozens of suicides of farmers who have lost all their herds. Ill let u try and igure it out, please reply as i would b very intrested 2 hear what u think. yours faithily Tom Snow ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[CTRL] ALIEN VIRTUAL REALITY - replacement killers ??
-Caveat Lector- ALIEN VIRTUAL REALITY andrew hennessey The number of witnessed cases in the UK where a person standing infront of 2 or 3 people suddenly goes fuzzy and winks out like a bad tv channel to be replaced by an alien grey is on the rise. First the amazing multiple witness of david francis becoming a grey, several other anecdotes for which I have less detail, and, more recently a rock band in london was in a recording studio when suddenly before their eyes they all saw at the same time the sound engineer disappear to become a small alien 'grey'. Where therefore are the original people ? in a tank somewhere like in the matrix - full of green fluid and being projected in some virtual reality broadcast/hologram to technology being held by the alien ? This sort of sighting was common in scotland after the falkland hill landing near Freuchie where thousands of greys and various other beings were seen by 4 people pouring out of a ship the size of a football stadium. ref. Mrs McMinn, where they built cocoons out of some white moist material and the local harvest straw - they were also seen carrying small heavy metallic boxes - as were the roswell greys, and there was evidence of a hierarchy, supervisor glowing white beings teleported around the field. One of the families had to relocate afterwards as their son was being followed about by a little man who was helping him with his homework - !!! I would have stayed, personally, but the neighbours in small town UK are a bit gossipy. Alien Replacements very much sounds like Invasion of the Body snatchers - but - it sounds like 'think tank' may take on an entirely new meaning these days :) andrew hennessey A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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West gives Yugoslavia financial boost, but it may not be enough
DUSAN STOJANOVIC, Associated Press Writer
Monday, July 2, 2001
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(07-02) 04:24 PDT BELGRADE, Yugoslavia (AP) --
The $1.28 billion pledged by the United States and other Western donors to reward
Yugoslavia for sending Slobodan Milosevic to the U.N. war crimes tribunal is just a
drop in the ocean for an economy that fell apart under his 13-year rule.
The funds, promised Friday at an aid conference in Brussels, Belgium, will not make
much difference for most Serbs, who are saddled with a $12.2 billion-dollar foreign
debt, 30 percent unemployment and about 80 percent annual inflation. Serbs make up
90 percent of Yugoslavia's population.
After 10 years of isolation, we are practically bankrupt, Serbian Prime Minister
told the German economic daily, Handelsblatt, in an article published Sunday. If we
don't show the population soon that things are getting better, the political
situation could become very critical.
A sliver of the money will go toward paying the salaries of teachers, doctors and
other workers who will be laid off in the restructuring of the economy, officials
said.
But most will go toward the debt, and another portion will be spent on repairing the
bridges, roads, factories and other infrastructure destroyed by NATO during its 1999
bombing of Yugoslavia.
The airstrikes -- designed to force Milosevic to halt a crackdown on ethnic
Albanians in the southern Serbian province of Kosovo -- cost Yugoslavia an estimated
$29.4 billion in lost infrastructure, and at least 500,000 lost their jobs, the
government estimates.
Yugoslavia, made up of Serbia and tiny Montenegro, is at near-beggar status, said
Miroljub Labus, the country's deputy prime minister.
The Germans are paying for our electricity, others are paying for something else,
he said. The people here are not aware of that, but unfortunately we are in such a
situation that we cannot finance our basic needs.
But economists estimate that only $800 million or so will actually reach Yugoslavia.
Most of the World Bank's pledge of some $150 million will go toward the debt, as
will $220 million of the $350 million promised by the European Union, said Milica
Uvalic, a deputy minister for foreign economic cooperation.
The promised money has to come in fast, Uvalic said, suggesting that any delay
could trigger social upheavals and undermine the new reformist government that
unseated Milosevic in October. I think the Western countries understood this at the
donors' conference.
The United States had threatened to boycott the donors' conference, but promised
$181.6 million in Brussels -- with additional strings attached -- after the surprise
extradition of Milosevic.
We are making this pledge confident that Yugoslav authorities will continue to
fulfill their international obligations ... including, of course, the transfer to
the tribunal of other tribunal indictees on the territory of Yugoslavia, said State
Department spokesman Philip Reeker.
With a gross domestic product of barely $8 billion -- less than its foreign debt --
Yugoslavia is struggling to finance its debt repayments. The budget gap in 2001 is
expected to be about $300 million.
Although there has been a limited recovery since Milosevic's ouster, much of the
economy is operating at only 50 percent capacity.
The World Bank, which organized the donors' conference together with the European
Union, estimates that Yugoslavia will need $4 billion in foreign financial
assistance over the next four years.
The money pledged for Yugoslavia underlines the strategic importance the country has
for stability in the troubled Balkan region. Last year, the whole of southeastern
Europe, which covers most of the Balkans, attracted only $3.2 billion in foreign
investment.
Yugoslavia needs three more aid conferences in coming years in order to revive its
ruined economy, Uvalic said.
The country is in a total chaos, there are major, major problems in every aspect of
the organization of the economy, said Rory O'Sullivan, a World Bank official.
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-Caveat Lector- From http://www.komiti.com/default.asp?page_id=4 Note: there are linques at bottom that will take the reader to other sites that have numerous other linques to other sites. This and other sites have nifty charts, maps and other graphics. AER }Begin What it is all about ? Komiti.Com 24 March, 2001 Like everything else in life It is all about money and oil. We live in a time when the energy resources of the planet are being depleted. There are few new forms of energy sources but none of them can replace oil. Almost every form of transport uses oil in its internal combustion engines (fuel and lubrication). Can you imagine your life without the current transport system? The whole world economy will come to a stand still. Lets not forget that all forms of plastics and most chemicals are derived from oil as well. Oil is the single most important substance on the planet. Oil is what makes the world go around. As the world oil resources decrease, whoever controls these will be the master of the world. Currently 85% of the oil comes from the Arab countries. We have seen how OPEC by just slightly reducing the oil output has managed to double the oil price. NATO did not invade Iraq to protect human rights. NATO countries (US, Great Britain) want to secure the oil fields for themselves. They have more or less succeeded in this, by exerting their military might over the Arab countries. But what would happen if large oil reserves (bigger or equal to all of the current ones put together) were discovered in Russias backyard (The Caspian)? Well, it has happened and a great geo-strategic game is unfolding. The Russians and the NATO countries are competing for these oil reserves. Whoever brings this oil to Europe will control it. To bring the oil from the Caspian Sea to Europe a pipeline is needed. Both the Russians and the NATO countries are building pipelines and strangely both of them go through Macedonia. The policy of the Macedonian government has been to be neutral on this issue. Having both pipelines built can only mean greater benefits for Macedonia itself. The US-British proposal for the Bulgaria Macedonia Albania pipeline is underway, but it is running late due to the difficulty of the mountainous terrain. The pipeline section between Macedonia and Greece (Russian pipeline) has already been built, and the OKTA refinery has been sold to Greek interests. The Macedonia Serbia section of the Russian pipeline is not ready yet due to the fighting between Albanian terrorists in Southern Serbia and North Macedonia. The NATO alliance is using the Albanians as proxies to fight their dirty war in stopping the Russian pipeline being built. If you look at the map nearly all of the fighting has been in areas where the pipeline is suppose to be built. Albanians live in other parts of Macedonia as well, why are they quiet there? A further proof of Russian interests in Macedonia is the Russian will to send military force to Macedonia. It took 78 days of NATO bombing for Russia to send its troops to Kosovo, yet only a week of fighting was needed for Russia to make an offer of it sending troops to Macedonia. The Greeks have already sent troops and large military aid to Macedonia. It is hard to believe that Macedonias enemy No 1 Greece is willing to help if it had no interests in Macedonia. Whether the current crisis is designed by NATO to slowdown or completely stop the Greece Macedonia Serbia section of the Russian pipeline we are not sure. What we know is that NATO is sweet talking Macedonia (expressing verbal support against Albanian extremists) while conducting a media war (CNN and BBC) as well as allowing CIA sponsored Albanian terrorists infiltrate Macedonia form Kosovo. The current behavior of NATO is destabilising Macedonia and threatens vital Macedonian national interests. It also questions Macedonian neutrality if the crisis escalates. Lets not forget that the Russians use the Macedonian alphabet (Cyrillic - Cyrill was Macedonian), that Russians were christianized by Macedonian missionaries and that all church services in Russia are still held in ancient Macedonian language. As Macedonian president Boris Tajkovski said : We will not be very selective of allies! Below are usefull links related to the Geo-politics of Caspian Oil http://www.aliyev.com/aliyev/fact_07.htm http://www.zoran.net/afp/text/submitted/wagons_east.htm http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3793a582649e.htm http://www.bisnis.doc.gov/bisnis/country/000818rspipetrans.htm http://www.soz.uni-hannover.de/isoz/Kosovo/pipel.htm http://www.worldwidewamm.org/caspian.html http://128.121.216.19/justin/j031401.html Background to an aggression Key stories Who are the rebels? Rebel aims Nato's role Inject the war In depth What it's all about The invisible war Nazi connection Ethnic make up Macedonian Democracy Macedonian Constitution Editorial Crisis Solution NATO in Kosovo Greece's policy change Sorcerers apprentices and
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Had to laugh here - was looking up stuff on bacteria and chemical warfare and horse serums and horses plagued with HIV and ended up with Plum Island, which I set aside and just now read. Now the first story is quite good; but lo and behold the second story is by Donna J. Logan, aka Rev. Coal, aka June now Donna aka June - claims her parents were both dog catchers - a claim of which not to be ashamed but nothing of which to brag - it is like saying my family engages in euthenasia or they called me Dr Death.. Anyway look at the Connection re the Department of Agriculture and then June's story aka Donna J. Logan aka the Rev. Donna Coal.she states her father was with the Connecticut Department of Agriculture? Made a nice unbelievable storyJune is a jackass of all trades and master of none? But then nobody is perfect - eh Donna? Shame shame - telliong such a big lie. Saba (you may pull up original story under subject matter but for you convenience I reproduce this intriguing story on Plum Islandand you know what, I bet June is MONKEY MAN... I can see the headlines - MONKEY MAN SHOT SPYING ON SECRET PLUM ISLAND THINK TANK GOVERNMENT EXPERIMENTAL STATION Money man turns out to be a girl, who is taller sitting down than standing up.They were suspicious when they found a rose tattoo on monkey man's rear end, with lightning bolt and itsy bitsy stars engraved upon its big fat ass. HOT OFF THE PRESS THOUGH SOMEWHAT DATED': Read the second story written by the late great Rev. Coal aka June aka Donna J. Logan or, did they shoot an imposter. SIGHTINGS Feds Want Long Island's Plum Island To Be Deadly Test Center By Leo Standora Daily News Staff Writer Link 9-22-99 Government scientists want to turn Plum Island off eastern Long Island into a testing ground for some of the most deadly microbes in the world, it was reported today. In a scenario that sounds like a cheap fright-movie script, the 840-acre, pork-chop-shaped stretch of land in the Atlantic would become an animal testing ground just a stone's throw from the Hamptons, the summer playground of the rich and famous. The Agriculture Department has asked for money to build a heavily protected lab on the island and the Clinton administration is considering it, The New York Times reported. Administration officials say the lab would be part of a new effort to combat terrorists who might use germ warfare on American crops or livestock. The island already is what scientists call a bio-safety level three center. That means its containment areas, which hold germs dangerous mostly to animals but sometimes to humans, have filtered air, sealed doors and negative air pressure that forces any leaked germs back into the labs. It's possible that if scientists used protective decontamination suits, like those in the movie Outbreak, and breathe only filtered air, they could work with even more dangerous pathogens that can affect humans. Among those are the Hendra virus that afflicts horses and the Nipah virus, which has already killed more than 100 people. Original Publication Date 09/21/1999 Comment From YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9-22-99 [Saba Note here: aka big fat ass June] My father worked for the CT Dept. of Agriculture, and just before his death in 1971, had alluded to a secret government biological warfare research and testing facility either 'by Long Island', or 'in Long Island Sound'...according to my father, this island wasn't marked on any maps due to 'security reasons' In the late 1970s, the New Haven Advocate ran an article about a secret govt. facility on an island in Long Island Sound that wasn't marked on any maps...the reporter began the article not believing the rumors regarding the existence of this island, and what happened if someone got too close, so he rented a boat and went searching for it himself...and described coming up to what seemed to be an uninhabited island which indeed was not shown on any map or chart, and island which, as he got closer, he saw was surrounded by a chain link fence topped with barbed wire, with 'No Trespassing' signs posted And as he tried to get closer, he described suddenly being surrounded by feds in highpowered boats with highpowered rifles (aimed at him), ordering him to leave the area immediatelyaccording to the reporter, these boats just seemed to 'come out of nowhere' About 10 years ago, the NYC media reported a 'spill' at a govt. biowarfare research facility out on the eastern end of Long Island... So I suspect this Plum Island story is NOT a case of the feds just suddenly wanting to conduct tests in the area, but that in reality it's an aspect of a program that's been going on in the area for at least 30 yearsand that Plum Island is what they want the public to focus on, while the REAL stuff is going on elsewhere (perhaps that infamous 'unmarked island')... __ SABA NOTE; Put her in the
[CTRL] Aleisha's Sexual Identity Crises 2 (was: Hashish grows...)
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote: I once ran for public office and I won - and I was a woman... In one post you say you were a boy...now you say 'I was a woman'...'was' as in past tense, meaning no longer being So you were a boy...then you 'was a woman'...what are you now? ;-) but then I also ran once and wrote a speech for a joke, Everything you write is a joke. that the local ColumbusTabloid reported picked up and used What Aleisha fails to mention is that it was Mental Health Week, and the local paper used her speech as an example of someone most needing help. I lost this one but still ended up in the winner's circle Like the thoroughbred you are, eh Aleisha...? You DO know what the term 'thoroughbred' means, don't you Aleisha, and how thoroughbreds are created? So it is said we are judged by every word that proceedeth out of our mouths. Indeed you are, Aleisha, indeed you are... So Joshua 2, you are still an asshole; June, you are still a fat assked No fat has ever asked me anything As for how I look, you only WISH you looked as good as I do... Your ex-hubby had no complaints regarding my physical attributes... old bat; I'm still younger than you, dear, still younger than you... ;-) and c - I don't know what the hell you are, and frankly my dear, I do not give a rats ass. Don't be so free in offering your ass, Aleisha...you'll get 'a rep' as we used to say back in highschool... Saba Always in the Winner's Circle With the rest of the old nags...soon to be at the glue factory... June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Recession Now Hits Mexico
-Caveat Lector- Sunny southern California is number 6 when it comes to world wide economies. Do you really believe that even the brain dead in Washington would allow this take over to happen? I think you need a reality dose. It is happening right now and the brain dead in DC want it to happen. I am not saying this is good or bad - just that it is happening. Another part of the equation is the mexican-americans who have been here for several generations. They know what life is like under the mexican government. They have family down there. There is no way they are going to allow the take over and go back to living in mud huts. You have a point. However that is why Mexico recently changed its laws to permit Mexican Americans to have dual citizenship, vote in Mexican elections from the US and even run for office in Mexico from the US! If what you said is true then long time Mexican Americans would favor restrictive immigrationand they do not. Mexican Americans vote overwhelmingly for those who advocate unrestricted immigration. Another interesting fact is that in parts of LA (and suburbs) 1st and 2nd generation Mexican American speak very little english and their primary language is Spanish. The long term problem for the US is not a Mexican American problem or any immigrant ethnic problem, it is a problem of overpopulation and immigration is the primary cause of the explosion in the US population over the past 50 years. Nothing degrades the environment more the population density. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Protect Your Children from the Invasion of the Lesbians and Homosexual
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[CTRL] Royal Navy run out of fuel.
-Caveat Lector- Excuse me, our frigate's out of petrol [by mike tait, metro2/7/01] Royal Navy bosses had to phone a garage in the Outer Hebrides [remote scottish atlantic islands] for help after one of its warships ran out of fuel during a major NATO exercise. Top brass were also caught out when mobile phones bought for the war games failed to work because no one realised the Orange Network did not work so far north. [any professional folk musician would have told the royal navy that the only phone networks that supply are Vodaphone and BTCellnet - these share a common transmitter in central scotland, military intelligence have a big budget to harass scots musicians its ironic they got caught like this :) in a typically unintelligent way] However, when the Navy asked filling station boss Calum Morrison for petrol, he refused to fill up their cans until the next day - because it was the Sabbath. Ironicaly, the garage at Timsgarry on the Isle of Lewis - where sunday ferries and planes are also banned - is one of Britains [and Europes] most expensive. Petrol costs 94p a litre and there is not another station for 30 miles. Crew from supply ship HMS Roebuck collected six 25 litre petrol cans from the pier at nearby Valtos for the inflatable dinghies used to speed commandos on raids during the exercise, which had run out of fuel. The ship had been taking part in a massive joint operation off Lewis called Joint Maritime Course, involving the biggest warship in the world - the American navy's carrier - the USS Enterprise - as well as 45 warships, five submarines, 100 aircraft and 14,000 soldiers. Mr Morrison said: 'at first I thought it was a joke when a posh voice rang up and asked for fuel for the navy. but when I realised it was genuine I told him I would rather carry out the transaction on Monday. So I left the cans after midnight at valtos pier and they collected them. I had seen the boats whizzing about all week but I never expected they would need my petrol. But I am glad of the business. It has been tough for rural filling stations recently, although our customers normally arrive by road.' A spokesman for the Royal navy said it respected the local culture and understood why it could not get fuel on a Sunday. andrew hennessey A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Californians cut power use 12 percent last month
-Caveat Lector- I don't resent California nor do I vote for Republicans (or Democrats.) In fact, I've been looking into moving to California. Weather is at least partly responsible for Cal's low per capita energy use, but perhaps the folks there are a bit more energy conscious than most. Fine. But I would still insist that the recent lower usage is due to folks wanting to save money, not by seeing Gray Davis on TV going door-to-door handing out low-power light bulbs. Give the people the credit, not the photo-op governor. --- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- You obviously resent California, probably for voting for Democrats. Like I said, we were the #1 energy conservation state in America long before energy prices started going up. Steve On 2 Jul 01, at 15:03, Jeff Russo wrote: Gray Davis can push all he wants, people didn't really react until it started affecting their wallet. Now THAT's typical. - j ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Your Soy Question (LOW 171802)
-Caveat Lector- Hi list (especially Mike) I received an answer today to a posting by Mike Spitzer that I forwarded a while ago from the cattle industry lobbying group Weston Price Organization. That group had gathered contributions from its meat ranchers members to disseminate anti-soy scare propaganda (made semiofficial with the phrase studies show--but when you read the cited studies they do not make these statements) to show that soy was harmful and that meat should be consumed instead. In actuality, they did noSee reply, together with considerable scientific documentation and cited material from the FDA. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.revivalhealth.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:53 AM Subject: Your Revival Question (LOW 171802) Hello Jenny. Thank you for contacting me with your question. Sorry for the delay! Over 500 customers PER DAY contact us with medical questions. Dr. Tabor compiled these studies for you we will do all we can. Thank you for directing me to that information. I am constantly watching for any true evidence that soy protein causes harm because my own mother uses Revival daily. The claims they argue are not new. Within the past year, the FDA, the North American Menopause Society, and now the American Heart Association, have all officially recommended that everyone consume more soy protein. This was based on the medical evidence. A recent panel of world experts (April 2000) determined that the amount of soy nutrients needed to achieve all of the potential benefits of soy, including a reduced risk of certain cancers, was in the range of the amount found in a single serving of Revival: Appropriate Isoflavone Food Fortification Levels: Results of a Consensus Conference. J.J.B. Anderson, H. Adlercreutz, S. Barnes, M.R. Bennink, M.S. Kurzer, P. Murphy, K. Setchell, C.M. Weaver, and C.M. Hasler. Univ. of No. Carolina, Helsinki, Ala.-Birmingham, Michigan St., Minnesota, Iowa St., Cincinnati, Purdue and Illinois. Experimental Biology 2000, San Diego, CA April 15-18, 2000. Several leading isflavone researchers convened recently to establish appropriate isoflavone food fortification levels. A consensus was achieved after reviewing human studies in the areas of menopause, osteoporosis, cardiovascular disease, and cancer. For the relief of menopausal symptoms, an intake of 60 mg aglycones was proposed, but consumption of soy protein in conjunction with the isoflavones was not specifically recommended. For improvement in bone mineral density, consumption of 60 to 100 mg aglycones per day, without any concomitant soy protein, was suggested. The consensus panel determined that the minimal intake needed to reduce serum LDL-cholesterol is between 37 and 62 mg aglycones per day, depending on prior cholesterol status (normo- vs. hypercholesterolemia), in conjunction with approximately 25 g of soy protein. The minimal intake for potentially reducing the risk of cancers of the breast, colon and prostate in humans was suggested to be between 50 and 110 mg per day of aglycones. No concomitant soy protein might augment activity of the isoflavones. For health benefits, recommended aglycone intakes ranged from 60 to 100 mg per day (100 to 160 mg glycosides). However, the panel recommended an isoflavone intake of 60 mg of aglycones per day (100 mg glycosides) as a reasonable and responsible food fortification level. The issue of whether soy protein needs to be consumed in conjunction with isoflavones to obtain optimal health benefits requires further experimental investigation. NOTE: Revival has about 150 to 160 milligrams of glycosides per serving, putting it within the range recommended by the panel of worldwide experts on soy consumption. From a personal standpoint, we have not seen any of this in over 30,000 Revival customers. The FDA did examine these claims and recently issued the following press release on August 14, 2000: US FDA says it weighed soy concerns versus benefits By Lisa Richwine WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. health regulators weighed concerns that soy products might be harmful but decided soy's positive effects justified touting its benefits to consumers, a Food and Drug Administration official said Monday. The agency comment came in response to published remarks from two FDA scientists that eating soy might cause health problems, particularly if given daily to infants in soy milk formulas. Drs. Daniel Doerge and Daniel Sheehan, the FDA scientists, have spoken to media organizations to warn that infants given soy formula might grow up to develop fertility problems. They also worry that eating soy regularly might increase the risk of breast cancer in women and brain damage in men. Their most recent comments were published in Britain's Observer newspaper Sunday. FDA officials considered the scientists' views and those of other critics before announcing last October that they
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon
-Caveat Lector- Confusing hemp with the drug marijuana is exactly one of the methods the US government uses to make people believe that legalizing hemp production will lead to more marijuana use. Regarding whether I am acquainted with the effects of marijuana: I am quite familiar with marijuana; I live in N. California where some of the finest marijuana in the world is grown. (Another reason conservatives like Bill Howard just hate California.) And yes I do know what happens when you smoke too much. :~| See Steve, you and I may disagree on Gray Davis, but we also have some things we can agree on :) Uh, the thing about the government. Not about smoking. I swear. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Sexual Identity Crises 2 (was: Hashish grows...)
-Caveat Lector- No June the reporter that wrote that item used to chase me around through my house while I was reading from my Gideon Bible. My milkman used to leave me free milk and free cheese and was oh so handsome and then the Borden Man started leaving me free milk and my husband got mad.Only at the Boroden man for he liked receiving free milkthat was when we still had door to door delivery - and this one milkman was adorble with big blue eyes and the sweetest smile. Also knew a millionaire plumber who used to do our our plumbing free and used to sit in this restaurant and get free mealsso you think I was not - well, let us say I did not ask for all that attention but loved every moment of it. My you seem to hang onto each and every little word I write. Glad you are still alive thougoh - thought you got shot at Plum Island - but tell me, are you the MONKEY MAN? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Norman Finkelstein pulls no punches (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- For background on Dr. Finkelstein's book The Holocaust Industry please see: http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/id44.htm Norman Finkelstein pulls no punches http://www.dailystar.com.lb/03_07_01/art3.htm How are you coping with all of this controversy? This controversy exists in an alien space for me because in the United States there is nothing! A former co-worker of mine called me yesterday from Belgium, she said that she walked into a bookstore there and found the book prominently featured. Here in the United States, you cant find it. So the fuss is going on in an alien space. I dont feel like a celebrity here, it doesnt exist. America is like this wall of silence. How do you stay connected to the Middle East, to the controversy that your book is creating in Europe and to what the industry is up to? Basically through the internet, e-mail, correspondence. The US is the corporate headquarters of the Holocaust industry; everyday there is something. There is literally at this point not a single issue of The New York Times, which doesnt have an article on the Nazi Holocaust. The only topic that receives more coverage is the weather! Its true. There isnt a single issue of the Sunday Book Review that doesnt have a book on the Holocaust. The main way of getting published today is if you write about the Holocaust. You say in The Holocaust Industry that American Jewry used the Holocaust and Israel to get to a prominent position in society. Now they are on top, so whats next? It serves very useful purposes. American Jews are in this really phenomenal position of being the most economically prosperous ethnic group in the US and (therefore it) gets to go around claiming it is a victim. So it uses this to immunize itself from any kind of criticism. It is exactly what Israel does. Israel is the fourth or fifth most powerful military in the world and it goes around saying poor me, I am under attack. It is a marvelous ideological weapon and they are not going to let it go. But if the Holocaust is a means to an end and they have reached that end, whats going to happen now? Right, but they (American Jewry) are so economically and politically powerful, you still need the Holocaust to deflect criticism, and otherwise criticism would be quite substantial. Do you think the criticism would be valid? Yes, in some cases of course! The positions that the American Jewish elite has taken on all sorts of issues ranging from affirmative action, to uncritical support of Israel, to the demilitarization of the Palestinians Of course criticism would be valid and it ought to be articulated. What do you think real anti-Semitism is about? I have given it a lot of thought and I dont think that there is a simple answer. What I object to, though, is the standard Holocaust formulation that all anti-Semitism is irrational, its just this Gentile hatred of the Jews, it is completely irrational, and Jews could never bear any responsibility for the animus that is directed at them. That formulation I think is completely self-serving and ideological. I think it is preposterous. Even in practical application, can anyone seriously argue that the hatred that many Palestinians or for that matter, the Lebanese, bear toward Jews has nothing to do with anything the Jews have done? That is the purpose of the Holocaust ideology, because a central feature of the whole Holocaust ideology is that the extermination of the Jews was completely irrational. They always say that every genocide, every other killing has a rational motive: land, property, wealth There is always a reason, whereas this one is unique because it is irrational. So the second step of this argument is to say that the Holocaust is the culmination of all Gentile anti-Semitism and therefore the conclusion is all anti-Semitism is completely irrational. That is a very useful dodge. I think your book is actually a very pro-Jewish book. It is at least a genuine one telling Jews to watch out. I agree. I did say by the end of the book that American Jewry and Israel have a structural symmetry. By arrogance, by the throwing around of their political and economic weight, they are now boxed into a corner where they rely entirely on the US ruling elite for their survival. I dont think that is a good strategy for people who are numerically weak, I think it is crazy. Well, you cant predict, but the chicken will come home to roost. Who can Israel depend on now? No one. Everyone loathes Israel, they may pretend otherwise, but we know what they are really thinking, not because they are irrational anti-Semites but because the truth is that Israel had acquired a lot of good will at its birth because of the Nazi Holocaust and has squandered it. It is my impression that for American Jews, the US is very much home, Israel is like this foreign project. They do not seem to realize that they are denying another people a homeland. I dont think they care really. Racism runs pretty
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: i have a conspiracy theory
-Caveat Lector- Wonder if those cattle were not exposed to something other than foot and mouth disease for cattle can survive here. Horses though this one item shows where horses acquire HIV and this has been known for over 100 years.and it is spread by horse flies and they say AIDS cannot be spread by mosquitoes etc? Wonder what England's weather was like these past years - unusally wet? Or was it done as some say because someone wanted to corner market on beef and raise the prices. So France they started eating horse meat and of course anything French becomes expensive delicacy - but now we find horses, many horses have HIV, etc., which I find rather strange. So eating horses - wonder, re the dead or quarantined horses sold to French for there is suddenly a rush for horse meat? Oh those French - somebody destroys McDonalds and so I imagine the French will have horsebergers before too long for the peasants. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Egypt issues 'Millionaire' fatwa (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Egypt issues 'Millionaire' fatwa http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1418000/1418258.stm By Frank Gardner in Cairo Egypt's highest religious authority has condemned the local equivalent of the popular British game show Who Wants to be a Millionaire?' The Supreme Mufti's office in Cairo has issued a fatwa, or religious edict, calling the game show sinful and a form of gambling. The fatwa quotes from a verse in the Holy Koran which calls on all Muslims to avoid gambling as an abomination and Satan's handiwork. The show - known in Egypt as Who will Win a Million? - is one of several phone-in programmes now running on prime time Egyptian Television. Sinful gambling A trailer shows the presenter standing in front of the pyramids at Giza while men carry suitcases of money around in the background. Dial up a number, answer the right questions and you could be one of the lucky contestants and win a million Egyptian pounds. That translates into about $250,000, but for the religious authorities the figures are irrelevant. As far as they are concerned, it's all sinful gambling because competitors have to spend money on phone calls without knowing if they will win or not. Gambling is forbidden in Islam, and although Cairo's smarter hotels have their own casinos only non-Egyptians can use them. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 9:41:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Another reason conservatives like Bill Howard just hate California WRONG! I don't hate California, just the liberals that infest it. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Recession Now Hits Mexico
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 9:42:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If what you said is true then long time Mexican Americans would favor restrictive immigrationand they do not. Mexican Americans vote overwhelmingly for those who advocate unrestricted immigration. Another interesting fact is that in parts of LA (and suburbs) 1st and 2nd generation Mexican American speak very little english and their primary language is Spanish. Having worked with and around quite a number of mexican-americans I can tell you that not all of them are in favor of unrestrictive immigration. Unrestrive immigration is threat to their economic life style. As for the mexican-americans who have been here for 6 generations and still don't speak engilish, yes there are some, they work on the loading docks. We may see a unified North America of Canada, The U.S. and Mexican before too very long. And how about a chinese style limit on the size of families? Jobs are being replace by machines everyday. We don't keep the large families anymore. So, there will be government insentives to keep the family size down. BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- dear oh dear- well, at least with a bit of backtracking you managed to get here at last. - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) -Caveat Lector- On 2 Jul 01, at 17:22, c. wrote: Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC. yes, exactly- it doesn't contain SIGNIFICANT amounts of thc (and the others) because it is a variety of cannabis that has been grown for the material and not the resin. i can't even be botherred going on about it in more detail as it is not pertinent- you *must* see the point i am making. You are making my point: on the contrary- i was pointing out that YOU were making MY point. you initially said that hemp was not cannabis- now you are saying that it IS. put it this way- i can select the seeds from my (grown for fruit) plants and grow somew more. usually i would select the young plants that are squat and bushy and ditch the tall gangly ones. but this time i could save the gangly girls and mate em with the gangly boys. over a period of time i will produce `grown for flesh` plants instead of `grown for fruit` plants, the thc content will be low and i can put a sticker on it with the word hemp on it. now- you fuck off and try and do the same with two chihuahuas and come back to me with a great dane after 10 generations. hemp IS marijuana IS hemp i take your point about the government's blinkered view about cannabis. i think the naivety of the seperation rationale (although i can see why you may wish to try it) is underlined by what made cannabis illegal in america in the first place- logging companies needing to force out the hemp producing companies. they embarked on a long and diseased campaign to reinvent what people think cannabis is. it worked. i have not got the references to hand- but i can get them if anyone is interested (i am sure such stuff will be in ctrl archive?) so i am kinda apathetic about this seperation thingy. same as i am annoyed about the idea of producing laboratory cannabis to give MS sufferers who find it relieves their pain for the simple reason that i reckon that there is not only one part of the drug that helps them - the idea is that they want to isolate the bit that helps MS and remove the bit that makes someone high but i do not believe that is possible- i think the physical effects and the emotional effects all contribute to the relief. if the political will is there then seperation becomes futile. as does chemically prodiuced thc. (which will fail) Hemp is a variety of cannabis sativa grown for fiber. Marijuana is a variety grown for THC content. you are mixing and matching your names. hemp is cannabis is marijuana. out of all of them cannabis is probably the most technically acceptable- but all are the same thing. just different names for the one plant. They are *different varieties* as you have admitted. Do you know the meaning of different? It does not mean 'the same'. you are so great at pointing out people's stupidity by putting them down- yet you have consistently shown yourself to be ill informed. you should have taken the warning on rudeness before you made another fool out of yourself. putting people down when you are actually talking shite never makes you look good. A great dane is not the same dog as a chiuaua, even though they are the same species. see above steve- you insult me with this analogy. Confusing hemp with the drug marijuana is exactly one of the methods the US government uses to make people believe that legalizing hemp production will lead to more marijuana use. no it isn't. don't put it on them- they know it is the same thing. trying to seperate cannabis into two plants was down to campaigners like yourself for political reasons (noble as they may be) to try and educate the public as to the almost miraculous and myriad uses that cannabis in all it's forms has. Regarding whether I am acquainted with the effects of marijuana: I am quite familiar with marijuana; I live in N. California where some of the finest marijuana in the world is grown. shyearight the arrogance of some people is gobsmacking. (Another reason conservatives like Bill Howard just hate California.) And yes I do know what happens when you smoke too much. :~| no you don't or you wouldn't be frowning- you would be sleeping :) smoke some more. Steve A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives
Re: [CTRL] Cooper cracks Chandra Levy case!
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Damian B. Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: [CTRL] Cooper cracks Chandra Levy case! snip A powerful message to anyone who might think about double-crossing the Clinton mob, So there you have it, Watson: motive, opportunity, method. Contact Scotland Yard and have them arrest William Clinton, and everyone who has ever worked for the Clinton's, and you will have your man, or more precisely, men AND women. Case closed. DBCooper I *like* it! === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israelis Shoot Sheep
-Caveat Lector- Settlers destroy Palestinian owned olive trees and kill sheep Tulkarem - July 3, 2001 (IAP News) On Tuesday, Jews from the illegal settlement of Avni Hefets burned large tracts of Palestinian land containing tens of olive trees belonging to the Palestinian village of Shofa, which is near the settlement. Eyewitnesses said that the Israeli occupying forces prevented the Palestinian fire engines and the Palestinian landowners from reaching their lands in order to put the fire out. Additionally, the so called Jewish Guarding in Charge of the illegal settlement of Kfar Adomim used automatic weapons to shoot at Palestinian owned herds of sheep, killing twenty of the sheep and injuring numerous others. This type of aggression against the Palestinian people routinely takes places on an almost daily basis by fanatic settlers who are protected by Israeli armed forces. Palestinians who try to defend themselves are either shot at, arrested or severely beaten by the occupation forces. In the meantime, on Monday the US State Department said the Palestinians had not done enough to fight terror and end violence. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israelis Kill Shepherd
-Caveat Lector- Israeli Forces Destroy Palestinian Homes: More than 500 Left Homeless Occupied Jerusalem: July 3, 2001 (Al-Haq News Update) - Israeli forces destroyed the dwellings of at least 500 Palestinians today in retaliation for the killing of an Israeli settler. Last night Yair Har-Sinai (51) from the Settlement of Sussia was killed outside of the settlement. Har-Sinai worked as a shepherd, and was shot while watching his flocks. In response to this killing Israeli Forces in the Hebron district destroyed the homes of many of the residents of this area. The settlement of Sussia is one of a group of seven settlements that include Yatah, Maoun, Beit Yatir, Lasefer, Adnael, and Carmael. The villages of Wad Rakhaim, Karbet al-Nabi, Kharbet al-Sussia, Imnaizel, and al-Shatneh are located between these settlements. In 1982 an area of 86,000 dunums, including the area on which these villages and the settlements are located, was declared a closed military zone by the Israeli government. All civilians, including the Palestinians residing in the area, were forbidden from living in the area. The residents of the villages named above refused to leave, but much of their land was confiscated, and was later turned over to Israeli civilians by the Israeli government for use in building settlements. For years the Israeli government and settlers in this region have been attempting to expel the residents of the district from their homes. Most of the Palestinians in this area live in caves that have been used by their families for generations. On March 29, 2000 the Israeli military expelled most of the residents of this area, but 82 of the families expelled fought the expulsion order and the Supreme Court eventually ordered that they be allowed to return to their homes. This morning the Israeli military entered into these villages and blew up all of the caves in which most of the residents live. They also filled in the villages wells. The families living in these caves have dwelled in these locations for hundreds of years and have no alternative places to live now that their homes have been destroyed. In addition to those left homeless at least 30 men were arrested. No final count on the number of homes destroyed and the number of men arrested is currently available, but al-Haq is following up on this case and will have more complete information in the coming days. The Israeli militarys actions are a violation of the basic rights of the Palestinian residents of these villages. The actions being taken constitute collective punishment, and qualify as a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 under Article 147, which states that, grave breaches to which the preceding Article relates shall be those involving any of the following acts extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly. The international community should thus take immediate action to stop Israels grave violations of Palestinians rights, and should immediately demand that Israeli forces halt their destruction of civilian Palestinian property. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israelis Kill Shepherd
-Caveat Lector- Doh! Meant to put the subject: Palestinians Kill Shepherd A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israelis Kill Shepherd
-Caveat Lector- Doh! Meant to put the subject: Palestinians Kill Shepherd Eh, wait a few days and it will be accurate. You could detonate a nuclear bomb there and have only bacteria survive and the Jewish bacteria will try to kill the Arab bacteria and vice versa. What makes anyone think they can change almost two millennia of hate and retaliation? -- From: Yardbird Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2001 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Israelis Kill Shepherd -Caveat Lector- Doh! Meant to put the subject: Palestinians Kill Shepherd A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance--not soap-boxin---please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theor-'--with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fra-ds--is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israelis Kill Shepherd
Alan Sheppard???
[CTRL] NM: Rogergate Witness Details Clinton Company's China Swindle
-Caveat Lector- With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Tuesday July 3, 2001; 11:27 a.m. EDT Rogergate Witness Details Clinton Company's China Swindle A California businessman who helped a company owned by former first brother Roger Clinton import building materials and other products from China said Sunday that Clinton's business partners swindled him and another businessman out of hundreds of thousands of dollars on different import deals. Davey Crockett, a distant relation to the fabled frontiersman and one-time candidate for Congress, has been a successful importer of Chinese-made apparel for years. But more recently he's become a valuable witness to government investigators who are trying to determine the extent of Roger Clinton's contact with Chinese business interests as well as the source of a mysterious 1999 deposit in Clinton's personal bank account: $250,000 in travelers checks drawn on banks in Taiwan and Venuzuela. Roger has refused to talk to a federal grand jury in New York as well as a House committee currently examining allegations that he took cash in exchange for promises of presidential pardons. Crockett, on the other hand, confirmed over the weekend that he has been talking to government investigators about a 1999 trip he made to China with Clinton's business partners, Dickey Morton and George Locke -- who have both refused to testify citing their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination. In his first broadcast interview anywhere, the international businessman told WABC Radio's John Batchelor and Paul Alexander that Roger Clinton's company, CLM LLC, was a corrupt operation that used his influence to gain access to China trade then defrauded those who bankrolled the deals. While staying with Roger's business partners in Shanghai, Crockett said he was privy to phone conversations made to Clinton in California. ALEXANDER: What was the nature of the phone calls between Locke and Morton and Roger Clinton? What would they talk about? CROCKETT: They cited the contracts, the amount of money that was going to be made on the contract or the order and, you know, to have Roger come over there. And Roger -- since Bill Clinton was really, really well received and well liked in China -- they felt that his brother Roger would be the same way. BATCHELOR: And you had every reason to believe that what they were telling you about Roger Clinton was true; that he had access to his brother, that there were going to be many contracts come your way because of that access. CROCKETT: Correct. The government witness also revealed that Shanghai officials were preparing a gala reception celebrating the former first brother's arrival. CROCKETT: Yeah, I mean we even went as far as to -- there's several mayors in Shanghai -- there's just not one. And we even had a reception that was going to be planned through Shanghai, which, as you know, is a very, very large city, to welcome Roger BATCHELOR: Your understanding was that you were going to bring (Morton and Locke) into China and that Roger was going to come later. Is that correct? CROCKETT: Right, right. Ultimately, the Clinton brother declined to make the trip for reasons that are still unclear to Crockett. The California businessman said his relationship with Clinton's company came unraveled when he learned that Morton had conned him out of $30,000 in a plan to import cement from China. BATCHELOR: You also discovered that Locke and Morton and CLM were up to registering shadow companies that were looking to profit on your work in China. CROCKETT: Yeah, we did a Nevada corporation cause of the tax loophole that we could have gotten out of Nevada. BATCHELOR: This is for American Gypsum? CROCKETT: Right, instead of a California corporation. So we filed it, Nevada Corp. The next thing I know Dickey Morton had filed a same name, same everything, American Gypsum -- but he did it in Arkansas. So I confronted him on it and that's when everything blew up. BATCHELOR: That's when you realized you were dealing with swindlers, not businessmen. CROCKETT: Yeah, it was just -- yeah, absolutely. BATCHELOR: Did you lose more than that $30,000? CROCKETT: Yeah, I lost the next order that came in which was a potential of about a half-million dollar commission, which we should have split. Crockett described another CLM swindle that involved the importation of Chinese sheet rock. CROCKETT: There was a successful period of time with this commodity (sheet rock), you'd bring it in and there was tremendously large profits being made on this one commodity. So this is why we jumped into sheet rock So (CLM) got this guy and got him to put the money up. The goods arrived late. They didn't even have enough money to even unload the ship when it got into Georgia ALEXANDER: There's a person who puts up this money, it gets over here -- and then how does he get swindled? CROCKETT: Well, he got swindled for two
Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Jul 2001, at 22:20, Damian B. Cooper wrote: If the world population is to be reduced, does it matter which specific populations are reduced? I appreciate your serious response. I would prefer to let natural processes determine which populations survive rather than to allow some self-appointed elitist to make the decision for us. BTW, are you a computer program? -- Best wishes Woolybooger for the day: (3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. -Article 29, Universal Declaration of Human Rights Adopted and proclaimed by General Assembly resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Which authorities should go first? The CEOs of the multinational corporations. They're the ones who really rule the world. Work down from there. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Milosevic To Name Names...Will He Be Suicided?
-Caveat Lector- I've heard of his report but not read it yet; he's not mainstream. Do you have a title or a URL? Thanks in advance http://www.mightycool.com/historyspotlight/08171987.shtml A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Hemp is a variety of cannabis sativa grown for fiber. Marijuana is a variety grown for THC content. They are *different varieties* as you have admitted. Do you know the meaning of different? It does not mean 'the same'. It's the same plant. If you grow it for fiber you call it hemp. If you grow it for THC you call it marijuana. A great dane is not the same dog as a chiuaua, even though they are the same species. This is not a valid analogy. The difference between hemp and marijuana is not like the difference between a great dane and a chihuahua. It's more like the difference between a steer and an ox. If you plan to pull a cart with it, you call it an ox. If you plan to butcher it for meat, you call it a steer. Either way, it's a castrated bull. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Sexual Identity Crises 2 (was: Hashish grows...)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Sexual Identity Crises 2 (was: Hashish grows...) -Caveat Lector- No June the reporter that wrote that item used to chase me around through my house while I was reading from my Gideon Bible. tricks ask the strangest things, don't they? in england they like to be spanked. My milkman used to leave me free milk and free cheese and was oh so handsome and then the Borden Man started leaving me free milk and my husband got mad. did he not like his bitch holdin back on trick turned dairy product? Only at the Boroden man for he liked receiving free milkthat was when we still had door to door delivery - and this one milkman was adorble with big blue eyes and the sweetest smile. it don't matter what they look like when you're whoring. bottom line is quality dairy products- and lots of 'em. Also knew a millionaire plumber who used to do our our plumbing free you do know what that is a euphimism for, dontcha? and i bet i'd have to pay extra. or have diamonds or something to give you. herpes mibbe. and used to sit in this restaurant and get free mealsso you think I was not - well, let us say I did not ask for all that attention but loved every moment of it. god and feminists say that they hate it, i always wondered, but you make it sound like in the movies. like porky's and that other one, whassits name porky's 2 or somethin. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WP: Fugitive Felon Says Clinton Aid Wasn't Logged
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41269-2001Jun24.html Fugitive Felon Says Clinton Aid Wasn't Logged By Susan Schmidt Monday, June 25, 2001; Page A06 Hollywood producer Peter Paul, organizer of a gala fundraising event for Hillary Rodham Clinton last summer, said in a lawsuit filed last week that he made more than $2 million in in-kind contributions to benefit Clinton's New York Senate campaign that were never reported. Paul, who was convicted of fraud and drug charges two decades ago, was indicted anew on stock fraud charges in New York earlier this month. In an unsuccessful effort to stave off those charges, he presented his allegations about the Clinton campaign to four U.S. attorney's offices, all of which declined to investigate. Paul is now in Brazil, and prosecutors are seeking his return. The claims were dismissed by officials at the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which reported to the Federal Election Commission on the funds raised at the event. The committee reported an in-kind contribution of $500,000 from Stan Lee Media, an Internet company with which Paul was affiliated. I believe the staff working on the event got that [figure] from Mr. Paul, said DSCC spokeswoman Torah Ravitz. Paul helped put on a star-studded gala Tribute to Bill Clinton in Beverly Hills during the Democratic convention last August, an event that had the dual purpose of raising money for Hillary Clinton's campaign. When the subject of Paul's past felony convictions was raised in the media, the campaign returned a $2,000 donation from him. Paul is being represented in the civil and criminal cases by Clinton nemesis Larry Klayman, chairman of Judicial Watch. Klayman is trying to get the Justice Department to look at canceled checks and other evidence that he says will prove that Paul bankrolled the Aug. 12 gala. The civil suit was filed in Los Angeles Superior Court against the Clintons, a campaign official and New York Senate 2000, a committee that raised unlimited soft money contributions for Senate candidates. Paul was indicted by a Brooklyn grand jury on charges he and three other men conspired to manipulate the price of Stan Lee Media's stock. He served three years in prison for cocaine possession and a scheme to defraud the Cuban government of $8.7 million. - - Prank Web Site Plots Torricelli's Demise As if Sen. Robert G. Torricelli (D-N.J.) doesn't have enough headaches with all those investigators breathing down his neck over allegations that he took cash and gifts in return for doing political favors. Now he's got a prank Web site to deal with as well. The site, www.torricellideathwatch.com, went up late last week and offers visitors a chance to predict the date of a possible Torricelli indictment, the number of counts in said indictment, the date and manner in which Torricelli leaves the Senate and so forth. The no-budget site, the work of a pair of political pranksters with Republican leanings, had some 900 visitors at one point on Friday, many of whom had Internet addresses ending in senate.gov. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Charles Key Interview on OKC Bombing (Archived)
-Caveat Lector- Charles Key Interview on OKC Bombing (Archived) Steel on Steel Radio Program - Hosted by John Loeffler 6/02/2001 Do We REALLY Know What Happened in Oklahoma City? -- Will We Ever? Guest: Charles Key / Host: John Loeffler This is an excellent interview of former Oklahoma state representative Charles Key by John Loeffler on his Steel on Steel program June 2. It's archived in either RealAudio or MP3. John asks the important questions. LISTEN RealPlayer: http://216.10.100.20/ramgen/sos/so010602.rm LISTEN MP3: http://www.steelonsteel.com/mp3/so2001-0602.mp3 Steel on Steel is a weekly program dedicated to the sharpening of ideas, news, commentary, interview, information, and debate, much of which you will NOT hear elsewhere. Our goal and pledge is to put together 90 minutes of solid news that the mainline media are ignoring by ignorance, bias, and/or neglect. Hosted by John Loeffler HOME: http://www.steelonsteel.com/index.html --- FINAL REPORT On The Bombing of The Alfred P. Murrah Building April 19, 1995 Update: Due to recent events, the publication of the 500 Page Final Report has been delayed in shipping until around the first part of June, 2001. To Place Order, Call 1-800-334-5597 FINAL REPORT Web site: Orders can also be placed here! HOME: http://www.bombing.tv/ ORDER PAGE: http://www.bombing.tv/OrderPage.html Any questions, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To place Pre-Order, Call 1-800-334-5597 ### Multimedia News Portal - All Print News 400 Talk Radio Shows PortalCheck.com: http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/NaltyNews/index.htm ### === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WP: Ethics of Key Bush Officials Targeted Democrats to ProbeFinancial Dealings
-Caveat Lector- [Note date. --MS] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8230-2001Jun15.html Ethics of Key Bush Officials Targeted Democrats to Probe Financial Dealings By Mike Allen Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, June 16, 2001; Page A01 Democratic officials said yesterday that they plan to mount a sustained effort to attack the ethics of financial dealings by leading Bush administration officials, including using the party's new majority in the Senate to call hearings. Democrats said they had resisted such a strategy for the past five months because of polls indicating voters are turned off by political bickering, even though many party activists have been eager to turn the tables on the Bush administration following years of Republican investigations of the Clinton White House. But Democratic Party officials said they have been emboldened by recent disclosures about the finances of some members of the new administration, and many hope they can use the cases to portray the Bush White House as beholden to special interests. Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.) launched the effort yesterday by requesting a congressional hearing into the propriety of a meeting by Karl C. Rove, Bush's senior adviser, with the chief executive of Intel Corp. at a time when Rove owned more than $100,000 in stock in the company. This is exactly the type of situation that you would have investigated had it occurred in the Clinton administration, Waxman, the ranking Democrat on the Government Reform Committee, wrote in a letter to the chairman, Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.). Democrats say they also are focusing on the failure of Treasury Secretary Paul H. O'Neill to complete the sale of his $100 million in stock and options in Alcoa Inc., of which he was chairman before joining the administration. O'Neill promised to sell off his holdings during a television interview on March 25. Dan Bartlett, a deputy assistant to President Bush, said the administration hopes Democrats will not engage in politically motivated fishing expeditions. We understand that there have been past, partisan battles over investigations, but these were battles and investigations this president and this administration were not involved in -- this president was off in Texas being governor, Bartlett said. We understand that the temptation to retaliate may be there, but we would urge members from both parties to try to keep what was in the past, in the past. As he swore in his White House aides in his first business day in office, President Bush said he expected every member of his administration to behave legally and ethically. Then he added, This means avoiding even the appearance of problems. Now, Democrats say they hope to use those words against him. After news accounts about Rove's March 12 meeting with Intel chief executive Craig R. Barrett and two Intel lobbyists appeared this week, the Democratic National Committee scheduled conference calls with talk radio hosts and state party officials in an effort to draw attention to the matter. White House officials said Rove had been waiting for months for clearance from ethics lawyers to sell his individual stocks, and has since done so. The officials said Rove talked to the Intel executives about ways the company could support the president's policies, and referred them elsewhere when they began to discuss a merger in the semiconductor industry. On the O'Neill matter, Michele A. Davis, a Treasury spokeswoman, said the treasury secretary began divesting his Alcoa stock in April and will sell all of it by next Friday. It's a very large amount of stock to sell, so they're doing it in pieces, Davis said. You want to be careful about volume on any given day. For now, the top feature on the Democratic Party's Web site is the O'Neill/Alcoa Stock Tracker, which purports to graph the soaring value of the treasury secretary's holdings, and shows his photo in the middle of a big bag of money. Several Democratic officials said they recognize the possibility of causing a public backlash. Doug Schoen, who polled for President Bill Clinton, said the party should be cautious and would be better off focusing on issues such as health care. That meeting undeniably had the appearance of a conflict of interest, Schoen said. At the same time, I don't think there's been any showing that there was an impropriety. For most voters, who owns what stock is a pretty abstract question, absent some showing of malfeasance. House Minority Leader Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo.) expressed concern about going too far. We've had enough, in my view, of the kind of ongoing, never-ending investigation that went on in the Clinton administration, he told radio reporters yesterday. Nevertheless, several Democratic officials said the party is working on ways to keep attention on administration ethics over the next weeks and months. For instance, officials said energy hearings being held by Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Conn.),
[CTRL] Palast: Why the Lights Went Out All Over California
-Caveat Lector- Published on Sunday, July 1, 2001 in the Observer of London Why the Lights Went Out All Over California by Gregory Palast Napoleon called England a nation of shopkeepers, but the Little Corporal never tried to purchase dietary staples (organic milk, Red Bull) from a Tesco Express. I tackled the manager as to why they were out of stock AGAIN. 'It's Friday,' he said, as if that were an unforeseen occurrence, like a rogue tidal wave that had engulfed Upper Street and prevented deliveries. I began to explain that 'Friday' is what accountants call a 'recurring event' and HAVEN'T YOU BRITONS EVER HEARD OF COMPUTERS YOU KNOW THOSE THINGS THAT LOOK LIKE TELEVISIONS WITH TYPEWRITERS ATTACHED... but, by then, everyone was looking around at that despised figure, the Complaining American. So I hustled back to the land of plenty in time to hear the Governor of California declare an end to the New World Order. Keep in mind that George Bush's entire excuse for his polluters' wet-dream of an energy plan - kick out the Kyoto treaty, drill the Arctic for oil, bring nuclear power back from the crypt - hinged on the premise that California had run out of energy. Or had it? It's true that in December, lights went out all over California. Power plants there run on natural gas and the price of the stuff had mysteriously risen by 1,000 per cent in a single week. This is odd given that over the state border at a pipeline switching center called the Henry Hub, there was natural gas aplenty at a fragment of the price. The Golden State's Democratic Governor, Gray Davis, has an explanation in the form of an internal document from the files of the El Paso Pipeline company. It seems that when California 'deregulated' the gas pipeline market, an El Paso executive speculated that if the company sold the pipeline capacity to its own subsidiary, it could squeeze California by the light bulbs anytime it reduced throughput. One corporate buyer calculates the scheme cost California $3.7 billion. Last week, three power plant engineers accused their employer, Duke Energy, of virtually sabotaging one of their own plants by 'running it up and down like a yo-yo', shutting the plant on and off. A state government consultant, Eugene Coyle, explained: 'It wrecks the plants; it shortens their life enormously.' Why would a company do that? The answer, say their accusers, is that if it suddenly withholds power from the market, prices soar. And if the plant breaks down, it's Christmas for the power merchants, who can charge virtually any price for electricity from their remaining plants. Wholesale power prices have averaged $400 per MW hour, up from less than $40 per MW hour in 1998, before California 'deregulated'. A report by economist Dr Anjali Schreffin for the California grid operator calculated that power merchants, through what are politely called 'strategic bidding' methods, including 'physical and economic withholding' of power supplies, have extracted $8.9bn from California consumers in 'monopoly rents'. Now Governor Gray wants them to pay it all back. But listen to the gas and power sellers' side: El Paso Gas says it opened and closed the pipe at times and prices set by the market. Duke Power says the grid operator, its accuser, ordered them to 'yo-yo' their plants - because that's just how the bidding went. So the core problem is not monopoly abuse of markets, but markets themselves. And Gray gets it. Besides demanding the $8.9bn, his regulators have let one giant power company go bankrupt. Gray is deprivatizing power lines across the state. And he is demanding that Bush's watchdogs end their love affair with markets and reregulate, telling gas and electricity merchants when, where and at what price they sell. For a decade the US has been selling the wonder of free markets to the rest of the world. But it always exempted itself: 78 per cent of the US is served by government water systems. Electricity generation, even if in private hands, is strictly regulated. In California, power companies and traders thought they could bring home to the US the free-market methods they used to huge profit in Brazil, Pakistan, Britain and other backwaters. If Gray succeeds (he may be our next President) he will have pushed the neo-liberal New World Order back into the sea.
[CTRL] Non-Lethal Weapons: Calmatives and Malodorants
-Caveat Lector- Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 From: The Sunshine Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sunshine: Non-Lethal Weapons: Calmatives and Malodorants The Sunshine Project Publication Announcement 2 July 2001 http://www.sunshine-project.org - Non-Lethal Weapons Research in the US: Calmatives and Malodorants Backgrounder Series #8 July 2001 - Online at: http://www.sunshine-project.org From the report: This paper is the first in a series of three reports on United States government research on chemical and biological non-lethal weapons. Shaken by experiences such as its disastrous mission in Somalia, the US has concluded that it lacks appropriate weapons for peacekeeping and other military operations other than war. To address this problem, the US has embarked on a program to develop new non-lethal weapons to control both armed enemies and civilians. Militaries and domestic law enforcement agencies in the United States and elsewhere are closely following this research and, in some instances, participating. The non-lethal weapons research detailed here raises questions about protection of civil liberties, particularly freedoms of thought and expression, and US compliance with arms control agreements including the Chemical Weapons Convention and Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention. The second and third reports in this series will be published over the course of 2001 and will address genetically modified anti-materiel agents and new riot control technologies, respectively. Introduction This paper details research on two types of non-lethal weapons in the United States that threaten and could undermine important international arms control agreements and basic personal freedoms of thought and expression. Calmative and malodorant agents and their delivery systems are designed for use against armed enemies, riots, and potentially hostile civilians. Calmative agents include an array of psychoactive substances whose effects range from inducing sleep to overpowering hallucinations. In the past, use of calmatives has been understood to violate the Chemical Weapons Convention; but new and dangerous interpretations of this agreement by US military strategists threaten to open the way for use of calmatives by armed forces or even police, especially in non-traditional conflicts such as peacekeeping. The United States Marine Corps and Army are researching delivery technology for calmatives and using computer models of calmative agents' effects in offensive wargames. Malodorant agents (stink bombs) have existed since the Second World War. Attempts were made as late as 1966 to develop malodorants that target particular ethnic groups. Disastrous military experiences such as that in Somalia and renewed interest from law enforcement has sparked a renaissance of interest in malodorants for use in riot control and, possibly, war. Use of malodorant agents, particularly by militaries, could promote use of chemical weapons in conflict and destabilize controls on both chemical and biological weapons. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The health impact of crowd-control agents
-Caveat Lector- Public Health: The health impact of crowd-control agents Canadian Medical Association Journal, date unknown http://www.cma.ca/cmaj/vol-164/issue-13/1889.asp Some observers say that the civil disobedience demonstrated in Quebec City this April and in Seattle 2 years ago represents merely the first wave of a grassroots movement that is emerging to support the casualties of capitalism and globalization. If such demonstrations erupt locally, physicians should be prepared to deal with the clinical effects of crowd-control agents such as tear gas; more than 5000 of these canisters were used against demonstrators in Quebec City during the Summit of the Americas. (April 2001) Epidemiology: Data on injury patterns during social protests are scarce, since the fervour of protest can escalate rapidly and unexpectedly, making premeditated, systematic data collection difficult. Some insights can be gleaned from data collated by the National Poison Information Service in England. In 1997 it received 597 enquiries from physicians seeking advice about the management of patients who had been exposed to crowd-control agents.1 Most enquiries concerned ocular (irritation, lacrimation, corneal abrasions), dermal (rash, erythematous dermatitis, blisters, bullae, czema, edema), respiratory (coughing, dyspnea), neurologic (headache, drowsiness), cardiac (tachypnea, hypotension, chest pain) and gastrointestinal (buccal irritation, vomiting) symptoms. Fifty-four people with dermal symptoms who presented within 6 hours after exposure had erythema and irritation, whereas 203 people with these symptoms who sought treatment 6 hours or more after exposure had blisters, bullae, eczema and edema. This difference suggests that there may be delayed adverse dermal effects to tear-gas exposure. The agents most commonly used in tear gas are o-chlorobenzylidene malononitrile (CS), W-chloroacetophenone (CN) and dibenzoxazepine (CR).2 At normal daily temperatures and pressure these agents form solid white crystals; when used for riot control they are dispersed as microparticulate clouds by pyrotechnic devices. To deploy them as sprays, the use of propellants and nonaqueous solvents, such as the industrial degreaser methyl isobutyl ketone, is required. Exposure to such solvents can by itself cause dermal scaling, peeling and blistering as well as irritation of the eyes and respiratory tract.3 Clinical management: CS, CN and CR gases irritate the skin, eyes and upper respiratory tact. They have been described as chemical barbs4 that cling to moist mucous membranes. They cause lacrimation, excruciating pain, blepharospasm and conjunctival erythema upon eye exposure. Rhinorrhea and nasal discomfort are common, as is a stinging sensation in the mouth, accompanied by nausea and vomiting. These symptoms may by accompanied by a sore throat, sneezing, coughing, chest tightness and increased salivation.2 Symptom onset occurs within 20 to 30 seconds after exposure and usually stops in 10 to 30 minutes if the exposed individual stays outside, ideally facing the wind, and removes all contaminated clothing.4 The ocular irritation typically lasts only 15 minutes but may persist up to 3 days. If the charge of tear gas is fired at close range, powder infiltration of the conjuctiva, corneas and sclera may occur. Reported complications include symblepharon, infective keratitis, hyphema and vitreous hemorrhage.5 Delayed dermal effects have also been reported. CS gas can cause erythematous dermatitis and contact dermatitis with blisters, vesicles and crusts. This is often accompanied by marked edema; onset takes place between 12 hours and 3 days after exposure. Skin that is exposed to CR gas may become extremely painful upon contact with water for up to 48 hours. CN gas may sensitize the skin and can produce allergic contact dermatitis within 72 hours after exposure.2 If a person has been exposed to tear gas, contaminated clothing should be removed and sealed in a plastic bag to prevent secondary contamination; medical staff should wear gloves and goggles when providing treatment. Washing with soap and water is not recommended unless symptoms persist, because the chemical agents can dissolve in water and exacerbate symptoms or contaminate other surfaces. Hot water may cause any residual particles to vaporize and give rise to secondary contamination.6 Recommendations for treating eyes contaminated with CS vary. Some suggest blowing dry air with a fan over the eyes to vaporize the CS particles; the area downwind of the fan should be vacant to avoid secondary contamination. Others recommend irrigation with normal saline. Persistent ocular irritation is usually the result of a particle of CS embedded in the surface, so a thorough slit-lamp examination should be conducted. Prevention: Current evidence suggests that tear-gas exposure is not dangerous to most people.4 Exposure may trigger laryngospasm or bronchospasm in people with
[CTRL] How To Kill the 4th of July
-Caveat Lector- ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization (Subscribe/UnSubscribe instructions near the end of the message) July 3, 2001 ALERT: A New 4th of July Alert on the CCOPS Web Site We want to notify subscribers to JPFO Alerts of a new ALERT from our sister organization CCOPS. To read *How to Kill the 4th of July* go to the CCOPS web site http://www.ccops.org/ and click on the LATEST ALERT button. The Liberty Crew FOR Check out the Bill of Rights Pistol FOR SALE! http://www.jpfo.org/pistol.htm SALE! NEW! Life Membership: $500 or $41.67/month for 12 months. Call for details: 1-800-869-1884, or www.jpfo.org/member.htm Are you buying books, CDs, or videos? Help JPFO earn a commission on your purchases, Click through to Amazon.com via the JPFO web site at: http://www.jpfo.org/bookstore.htm 4-cents per minute long distance http://www.jpfo.org/helpjpfo.htm See our special on the Photon Micro-Light II Personal Flashlight: http://www.jpfo.org/store.htm NEW! Gun clubs can become JPFO affiliates for only $40 annual dues. Affiliate with both JPFO and CCOPS at the same time: only $59.95! Call for details. 1-800-869-1884 4-cents per minute long distance http://www.jpfo.org/helpjpfo.htm Original Material in JPFO ALERTS is Copyright 2001 JPFO, Inc. Permission is granted to reproduce this alert in full, so long as the following JPFO contact information is included: Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership PO Box 270143 Hartford, Wisconsin 53027 Phone: 1-262-673-9745 Orders only: 1-800-869-1884 (toll-free!) Fax: 1-262-673-9746 Web: http://www.jpfo.org/ JPFO ALERTS is provided as a free service to the Internet Community. If you wish to help support this service, consider joining JPFO! $20/year (no, you don't have to be Jewish!) Join for 2 years and receive a free JPFO lapel pin! Life Membership: $500 or $41.67/month for 12 months. To SUBSCRIBE to JPFO Alerts: send a blank e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UN-SUBSCRIBE to JPFO Alerts: send a blank e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In either case, respond to the confirmation message you will get back. JPFO has no control over which ads are attached by Topica.com! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQA/AwUBO0IbESYkT7EuY/ZzEQI9mwCeN1RnUgonT1dEVq3HzPmnG9sm+LQAn0WS BAkGJs1Pm622SZoGR3hdIVwh =Qw8c -END PGP SIGNATURE- PGP Signature by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get secure: http://www.pgpi.org/ Toilet Paper that Educates! Good bathroom reading material that explains how the UN wants to take away your freedoms. See http://www.webleyweb.com/patriot/ for more details. Apply now for a special offer from Topica.com and Discover® Platinum Card Get started with $10 on us!* 0% Introductory APR* - No Annual Fee - Up to 2% Cashback® Bonus Award *See Important Information section of application. http://click.topica.com/caaacd2clvXGcclDymrf/Discover ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?clvXGc.clDymr Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/home.pat,local/3accca34.630,.html Murder suspect's record shrouded in controversy Related Sites: * The Village Voice: The castration of Wayne DuMond (see below) By MATT STEARNS - The Kansas City Star Date: 06/30/01 22:15 When Ashley Stevens heard on her cell phone that Wayne DuMond was back in jail -- this time in Missouri, this time on a murder charge -- it was too much. I had to pull over, I was crying so hard, Stevens said. I just lost it. Stevens fought for years to keep DuMond in prison in Arkansas. Along the way, she also fought ugly rumors that questioned the basic fact that put DuMond in prison in the first place -- that on Sept. 11, 1984, in Forrest City, Ark., DuMond kidnapped Stevens, then 17, raped her and threatened to kill her if she ever told. Through the years, the story of Wayne DuMond became shrouded in legend as thick as the fog that rolls off the Mississippi River into the Arkansas delta where the rape occurred. To some, DuMond was an honest man who ran afoul of corrupt politicians trying to curry favor with an influential family, a man who paid a harsh and humiliating price for doing so. To others, DuMond was something far more simple: a violent criminal who never should have been released from prison. Today, DuMond sits in the Clay County jail, charged with first-degree murder in one case and suspected in a second. It doesn't surprise me if that's the case, Stevens said. I told the parole board if they let him out he'd do it again, and he wouldn't leave a witness. I told them that for 14 years. DuMond was charged Friday in connection with the death last year of 39-year-old Carol Shields in Clay County. Authorities are investigating whether he also was involved in last month's homicide of Sara Andrasek, 23, in Platte County. DuMond's lawyer said DuMond isn't connected to either murder. DuMond, 51, came to Missouri last August after he was granted parole in Arkansas. He had served 14 years in prison there for raping Stevens, a high school cheerleader in Forrest City and the daughter of a prominent mortician. Stevens is also a distant cousin of then-Gov. Bill Clinton, a fact little remarked upon at the time but that later became a rallying point for those who proclaimed DuMond's innocence. After Clinton became president, DuMond's case became a cause celebre in the cottage industry of Web sites, articles and books that attempted to link Clinton to all manner of wrongdoing in Arkansas. Some of DuMond's supporters say he was trying to weed out corruption in the local sheriff's office when he was arrested -- framed, they say -- for the rape. In the rabidly anti-Clinton New York Post, a columnist referred to the DuMond case as Clinton's biggest crime. Such conspiracy theories embrace the fog that has blurred so many of the story's details after so much time. The theories became so prevalent that they almost fooled a governor. Such theories also discount DuMond's own past, which includes arrests for rape and murder long before the Forrest City case. But they do note one of the case's more bizarre aspects -- what happened to DuMond about six months after the rape. It's the castration aspect, said Fletcher Long Jr., who prosecuted DuMond. With the castration, if Wayne DuMond is guilty, it's not as good a story as if he's not guilty. People get it in their heads that he's the victim, not the criminal. Indeed, the case of Wayne DuMond once symbolized not the perfidy of a president, but the horror of vigilante justice. Rape and retribution According to DuMond, the vigilantes came for him the afternoon of March 7, 1985, armed with a handgun, a razor blade and fishing wire. Two masked men broke into DuMond's home in Forrest City, Ark., hogtied him and forced him to perform oral sex on one of them. Then they castrated him with the fishing wire and the razor blade. DuMond's sons found him when they got home from school. Today, some argue that DuMond, drunk and racked by guilt, castrated himself. Either way, DuMond's testicles wound up in a jar displayed on the desk of Sheriff Coolidge Conlee. Less than two months later, DuMond's house was destroyed by fire. It all happened as he was out on bail, awaiting trial for the rape of Stevens. Ashley Stevens was home alone the day of the rape. It was any old afternoon after school, and she was half doing homework, half watching television and mostly waiting for some friends to come by. Through the unlocked door came a bearded man with a pistol and a knife, a man Stevens had never met -- Wayne DuMond. DuMond was a local handyman, recently married, with three sons, a stepdaughter and a disturbing record. He had been charged with a 1972 murder in Lawton, Okla., where he was stationed at Fort Sill while in the U.S. Army. The charges were dropped after he agreed to testify against two others, who were found guilty. He had served five years' probation in Washington for
[CTRL] A New Declaration of Independence
-Caveat Lector- A New Declaration of Independence by Emma Goldman [Published in Mother Earth, Vol. IV, no. 5, July 1909.] When, in the course of human development, existing institutions prove inadequate to the needs of man, when they serve merely to enslave, rob, and oppress mankind, the people have the eternal right to rebel against, and overthrow, these institutions. The mere fact that these forces--inimical to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness--are legalized by statute laws, sanctified by divine rights, and enforced by political power, in no way justifies their continued existence. We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all human beings, irrespective of race, color, or sex, are born with the equal right to share at the table of life; that to secure this right, there must be established among men economic, social, and political freedom; we hold further that government exists but to maintain special privilege and property rights; that it coerces man into submission and therefore robs him of dignity, self-respect, and life. The history of the American kings of capital and authority is the history of repeated crimes, injustice, oppression, outrage, and abuse, all aiming at the suppression of individual liberties and the exploitation of the people. A vast country, rich enough to supply all her children with all possible comforts, and insure well-being to all, is in the hands of a few, while the nameless millions are at the mercy of ruthless wealth gatherers, unscrupulous lawmakers, and corrupt politicians. Sturdy sons of America are forced to tramp the country in a fruitless search for bread, and many of her daughters are driven into the street, while thousands of tender children are daily sacrificed on the altar of Mammon. The reign of these kings is holding mankind in slavery, perpetuating poverty and disease, maintaining crime and corruption; it is fettering the spirit of liberty, throttling the voice of justice, and degrading and oppressing humanity. It is engaged in continual war and slaughter, devastating the country and destroying the best and finest qualities of man; it nurtures superstition and ignorance, sows prejudice and strife, and turns the human family into a camp of Ishmaelites. We, therefore, the liberty-loving men and women, realizing the great injustice and brutality of this state of affairs, earnestly and boldly do hereby declare, That each and every individual is and ought to be free to own himself and to enjoy the full fruit of his labor; that man is absolved from all allegiance to the kings of authority and capital; that he has, by the very fact of his being, free access to the land and all means of production, and entire liberty of disposing of the fruits of his efforts; that each and every individual has the unquestionable and unabridgeable right of free and voluntary association with other equally sovereign individuals for economic, political, social, and all other purposes, and that to achieve this end man must emancipate himself from the sacredness of property, the respect for man-made law, the fear of the Church, the cowardice of public opinion, the stupid arrogance of national, racial, religious, and sex superiority, and from the narrow puritanical conception of human life. And for the support of this Declaration, and with a firm reliance on the harmonious blending of man's social and individual tendencies, the lovers of liberty joyfully consecrate their uncompromising devotion, their energy and intelligence, their solidarity and their lives. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gerbilling-gerbils gerbils and more (2)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.urbanlegends.com/animals/gerbilling/gerbils_gerbils_and_more.html The AFU and Urban Legend Archive Animals Gerbilling gerbils gerbils and more Select a topic- - - - - - - -HomeSearchesAFU FAQ- - - - - - - -AFUAnimalsBooksCelebritiesClassicCollegiateDeathDisneyDrug sFoodGIFLanguageLegalMedicalMiscMoviesPoliticsProductsReligionScienceSexSong sTV- - - - - - - -Other sites Subject: GERBILMANIA: everything you wanted to know but were afraid... This article is from a syndicated column called, The Straight Dope, and was written by Cecil Adams. It was published in the Chicago Reader, sometime in 1986. [NOTE: Since this column was published, Uncle Cecil has stated in his book _More of the Straight Dope_ that under closer examination, the confirmed report of gerbillectomy he mentions here came to nothing, and he's now skeptical that any real evidence of gerbilling exists. More specific and up-to-date cites are on their way. Thanks to Ian York for pointing this out. --ehk, 96/05/30] THE STRAIGHT DOPE While discussing a gay acquaintance recently, my friend Mary, a nurse, lauded him by adding, and he's no damn gerbil stuffer, either. When I protested that she should not perpetuate cruel stereotypes of our homosexual brethren, she informed me that she personally had witnessed a fellow admitted by her hospital to remove a deceased gerbil lodged in his rectum. That gentleman is now doomed to be tied to a colostomy bag through eternity. What I'd like to know is, what are the mechanics and philosophy of gerbil stuffing? How are the gerbils inserted and retrieved? Don't they bite and scratch? Why not hamsters or snakes? Is this a common practice? My curious friends and I await your reply with bated breath. -- Shannon O'Hara, W. Thomas Let's face it, toots, an awful lot of stuff has been found where that gerbil was found. The medical journals list an astonishing array: a bottle of Mrs. Butterworth's syrup, an ax handle, a nine-inch zucchini, countless didoes and vibrators including one 14-inch model complete with two D-cell batteries, a plastic spatula, a 9 1/2-inch water bottle, a deodorant bottle, a Coke bottle, a large bottle cap, numerous other bottles, a 3 1/2-inch Japanese glass float ball, an 11-inch carrot, an antenna rod, a 150-watt light bulb, a 100-watt frosted bulb, a cucumber, a screwdriver, four rubber balls, 72 1/2 jeweler's saws (all from one patient, but not all at the same time, although 29 were discovered on one occasion), a paperweight, an apple, an onion, a plastic toothbrush package, two bananas, a frozen pig's tail (it got stuck when it thawed), a ten-inch length of broomstick, an 18-inch umbrella handle and central rod, a plantain encased in a condom, two Vaseline jars, a whiskey bottle with a cord attached, a teacup, an oil can, a six-by-five-inch tool box weighing 22 ounces, a six-inch stone weighing two pounds (in the latter two cases the patients died due to intestinal obstruction), a baby powder can, a test tube, a ball-point pen, a peanut butter jar, candles, baseballs, a sand-filled bicycle inner tube, sewing needles, a flashlight, a half-filled tobacco pouch, a turnip, a pair of eyeglasses, a hard-boiled egg, a carborundum grindstone (with handle), a suitcase key, a syringe, a file tumblers and glasses, a polyethylene waste trap from the U-bench of a sink, and so on. In 1955 one man who was feeling depressed reportedly inserted a six-inch paper tube into his rectum, dropped in a lighted firecracker, and blew a hole in his anterior rectal wall. This changed his mood multo rapido. As for live or recently deceased fauna, rumors of gerbil (and mouse or hamster) stuffing have been circulating since about 1982, and I know of at least one case, in 1984, when a Denver weekly printed a confirmed report of gerbilectomy in a local emergency room. Unfortunately, such cases have been slow in making their way into the formal literature of medicine. I have checked with numerous sources, including gays, doctors, and your nurse friend, and though everybody has heard about gerbil stuffing, there is no consensus on how it is accomplished or how often it occurs. The principle is simple: a tube is inserted in the rectum, and a recently manicured gerbil is induced to run up the tube and burrow in. There's some difference of opinion about what happens next. Some say the gerbil somehow winds up in a bag or sack (perhaps a condom?); others say no sack is used - the gerbil simply squirms around, eventually dies of suffocation, and is later eliminated during defecation. The kick supposedly is the sensation of fur. I am skeptical about this, but let's face it, I am skeptical about this whole damn business. I should note that there are nerve endings only in the lower extremities of the rectum, and thus there is nothing to be gained by shoveling extended families of gerbils into your lower quadrant. A word to the wise. Complications often occur. Often the rectum
[CTRL] Animals-Gerbilling-gerbilling debunking
-Caveat Lector- http://www.urbanlegends.com/animals/gerbilling/gerbilling_debunking.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who is AGENT PROVOCATEUR?
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Jeff Russo wrote: We have a new poster, Agent Provocateur. It is time for the usual speculation as to which current or former CTRL personality this person really is. The mail is from an easily-gotten Yahoo account. The odds: Bill Cooper 7/2 Colleen Jones8/1 Henry Ayre 12/1 Peter Anthony30/1 flw 100/1 Mike Spitzer200/1 Prudy 800/1 nessie 800/1 Kris 1000/1 Aw, heck! I'm not worth even a mention?;-) June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: William Casey Founded Manhattan Institute
Founder of the Manhattan Institute-where Giuliani and Bush get all their ideas-William Casey From The Cultural Cold War by Frances Stonor Saunders, New Press [pg 132] The fund raising arm of the Free Europe Committee was The Crusade for Freedom for which a young actor named Ronald Reagan was a leading spokeman and publicist. The Crusade for Freedom was used to launder money to support a programme run by Bill Casey, the future CIA director, called the International Refugee Committee in New York, which allegedly coordinated the exfiltration of Nazis from Germany to the United States where they were expected to assist the government in fighting Communism...[pg 142]...The Ford Foundation gave $500,000 to Bill Caseys International Rescue Committee and substantial grants to another CIA front, the World Assembly of Youth...the convergence between the Rockefeller billions and the U.S. government exceeded even that of the Ford Foundation . GW Bush and Giuliani?s Nazi connection, the CIA?s Manhattan Institute, eugenics (scientific racism), West Nile Virus information http://baltech.org/lederman/ http://baltech.org/lederman/spray/ (for earlier West Nile Virus articles) http://www.levymultimedia.com/lederman/index.htm
[CTRL] Fwd: Prescott Bush Nazis [Boston Globe]
BOSTON GLOBE 4/23/2001 TRIUMPHS, TROUBLES SHAPE GENERATIONS PRESCOTT BUSH PAVED MODERATE PATH FOR SON AND GRANDSON; WOUNDED BY FRIEND'S BETRAYAL, HE PUT HIGH PRICE ON LOYALTY Author: By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff Date: 04/23/2001 Page: A1 Section: National/Foreign AN AMERICAN DYNASTY Last of two parts Prescott Bush was surely aghast at a sensational article the New York Herald Tribune splashed on its front page in July 1942. Hitler's Angel Has 3 Million in US Bank, read the headline above a story reporting that Adolf Hitler's financier had stowed the fortune in Union Banking Corp., possibly to be held for Nazi bigwigs. Bush knew all about the New York bank: He was one of its seven directors. If the Nazi tie became known, it would be a potential embarrassment, Bush and his partners at Brown Brothers Harriman worried, explaining to government regulators that their position was merely an unpaid courtesy for a client. The situation grew more serious when the government seized Union's assets under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the sort of action that could have ruined Bush's political dreams. As it turned out, his involvement wasn't pursued by the press or political opponents during his Senate campaigns a decade later. But the episode may well have been one of the catalysts for a dramatic change in his life. Just as the Union Banking story broke, Bush volunteered to be chairman of United Service Organizations, putting himself on the national stage for the first time. He traveled the country raising millions of dollars to help boost the morale of US troops during World War II, enhancing his stature in a way that helped him get elected US senator. A son and grandson would become presidents.
[CTRL] Fwd: Nazi Freemason Hjalmar Schacht
A WELL KEPT SECRET - Hjalmar Schacht http://www.thefreemason.com/feature.htm Picked Up in Passing Presented by T Hargreaves Hjalmar Schacht, a genius in financial affairs during the Hitler war years, was generally disliked by the Nazis because he was a Freemason. After the war years he was acquitted as a war criminal at the Nuremberg tdals. Schacht was a member of Zur Freundchaft Lodge and as early as World War I had published articles on the obligation of a Mason in his heart and spirit, to the people with whom he lived. General Werner Von Blomberg was minister of war in the Hitler Cabinet from 1933 to 1938 and Schacht wished to honor him on one of his birthdays. In 1933 Freemasonry was dissolved in Germany, and Lodges taken over and their contents confiscated. Among these articles was a very fine painting of Gebhard Lebrecht von Bluecher, General Field Marshal in the Prussian Army. Bluecher was a very ardent Mason and after the battle of Katzbach in 1813 he declared, Masonry is holy to me and it will be so until I am called to the Eternal East and any Brother is near and dear to my heart. The oil painting of Bluecher was made during the years 1802- 1806 at the time that he was the Master of his Lodge Zu den 3 Balken in Muenster, Germany. The painting depicts the Marshal in uniform with all of his military orders and decorations, and you can also see around his neck a large blue ribbon with a square of the end. He is standing before an Alter on which is a book with a sword lying thereon. He holds a gavel in his right hand. One can distinctly see the Masonic insignia. Schacht found that this painting was available for a very low price and bought it. It would have been extremely dangerous to give Von Blomberg this painting since he was a strong Nazi so Schacht found an artist who painted over parts of the picture so that it would be impossible to see the Masonic paraphernalia. But the artist was unaware that the jewel around his neck also indicated Freemasonry and left that part untouched. On one of his birthdays Von Blomberg received the painting from Bro. Schacht and felt very honored that Schacht had compared him to the famous Marshal Bluecher and placed it in one of the largest rooms of his villa for all to see. It has to be said to the honor of all Masons that they recognized the picture belonging to a Lodge in Muenster but not one gave the secret away. To the end of the Hitler regime it remained a well kept secret, and at the same time became a source of hearty laughter in the circle of our Brothers.
[CTRL] Welcome to the Freelance Surveillance agency headquarters Mainframe
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SIGHTINGS
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote: Anyway look at the Connection re the Department of Agriculture and then June's story aka Donna J. Logan aka the Rev. Donna Coal.she states her father was with the Connecticut Department of Agriculture? Yep, from the late 1950s until his death in 1971. And don't think you're being brilliant in discovering a connection with the Dept. of Agriculture, either on the state or federal level...others who are far and away your betters have already written on such connections Made a nice unbelievable storyJune is a jackass of all trades I don't hold a candle to you in that regards... Shame shame - telliong such a big lie. Prove that anything I said is a lie. My father said what he said...never mentioned the name of the island, so perhaps it wasn't Plum Island but another island 'in' or 'by' Long Island... Or are you claiming that I'm lying about my father working for the state's Department of Agriculture? And the New Haven Advocate DID carry a story on Plum Island. Since you're so hep on doing research, look it up...you can also research my father, he was written about in the papers enough (as was my mother)...his full name was David Donaldson Logan, Jr. Died in March of 1971. Can't give you his birthdate, because apparently he fudged a bit on that in WWII to get into the Army when he was underaged...when he died we found records giving at least 3 different birth years... Money man turns out to be a girl, who is taller sitting down than standing up.They were suspicious when they found a rose tattoo on monkey man's rear end, with lightning bolt and itsy bitsy stars engraved upon its big fat ass. Well then, it couldn't be there, since that is not the area of my body where I have my tattoo... ;-) written by the late great Rev. Coal Take a look at my email address...hardly 'late great'... SABA NOTE; Put her in the zoo. At least I would be alive and well-fed. You, OTOH, are headed for the glue factory or meat processing plant...where all the old nags go... June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Sexual Identity Crises 2 (was: Hashish grows...)
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, c. wrote: Only at the Boroden man for he liked receiving free milkthat was when we still had door to door delivery - and this one milkman was adorble with big blue eyes and the sweetest smile. it don't matter what they look like when you're whoring. bottom line is quality dairy products- and lots of 'em. Back when I was a teenager, the term 'giving milk' meant having sex...and answering 'yes' to the question 'do you like milk?' meant you liked to have sex... Sounds like Aleisha liked to both give and get milk... But I suspect that in her case, it curdled ;-) That's why her hubby left her...he wanted some fresh cream instead of Aleisha's curds and whey Also knew a millionaire plumber who used to do our our plumbing free you do know what that is a euphimism for, dontcha? and i bet i'd have to pay extra. or have diamonds or something to give you. herpes mibbe. I betcha that plumber gave Aleisha the ol' Rotor Rooter treatment. ;-) June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Comedian Ordered to keep away from children for lewd conduct
-Caveat Lector- File Photo Paula Poundstone ordered to stay away from kids SANTA MONICA, July 2 - Comedian Paula Poundstone pleaded innocent Tuesday to child molestation charges and was ordered to stay away from children unless their guardians or independent observers are present. Two protective orders issued by the judge apply to the five alleged victims as well as all other minors. She was specifically ordered not to threaten, harass or sexually molest children. The 41-year-old standup comic was arraigned on charges of committing a lewd act on a girl under age 14 and endangering two other girls and two boys. If convicted of all charges she could face up to 13 years and four months in prison. The arraignment was originally scheduled for late this month but a judge agreed to reschedule it for Tuesday. Paula is eager to get the proceedings going so she can have her day in court, her attorney Steven M. Cron said in a statement. Prosecutors have not released details of the allegations. All documents in the case were sealed. Poundstone has three adopted children and two foster children. All five are in protective custody. She posted $200,000 bail a short time after being arrested on June 27 in Malibu. -30- Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.Luke 17, Verse 1 and 2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Reichstag Fire Trial, the Sequel
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[Emperor's Clothes]Reichstag Fire Trial, the Sequelby Jared Israel
[3 July 2001]"I just saw Milosevic. He told this criminal Western
kangaroo court that he doesn't recognize them. So I wish there was a lot
more of those guys, like Milosevic." -- Comment of a refugee from the
U.S.-installed Taliban regime in Afghanistan, presently residing in
California, after watching President Slobodan Milosevic tell off the NATO's
"Tribunal" earlier today.How can one describe it? Slobodan Milosevic,
who has a genius for getting things right in a few words, calls it a "a
genocidal circus." Should the powers-that-be have allowed it on TV? The
images were stark: on the one hand, a modest man, genuine, very smart,
accusing his accusers; on the other hand, a sugary nightmare of
Empire.Now that the Americans run the world, they like to wheel out a
British voice for effect ("they got class, you know") but it wasn't enough.
Two times the voice, one 'Judge' Richard May, 'Chairman' of the 'Tribunal,'
(in the New World Unreality, one is driven to excessive use of quotes...)
had to hit the button on his desk cutting Milosevic off in front of 300
million viewers because things were not going according to script. I'll say
one thing for May: he's good with that cutoff button. After Milosevic
finishes making a complete fool of him, he'll easily find work as a radio
Talk Show host.To the glib unreality of CNN's standard coverage, with
cameras at first lingering on Stately Buildings and a reporter who talked
like the guy who used to narrate 'Lives of the Rich and Famous,' was added
the faux-judicial atmosphere of the Tribunal, which looks like a movie set
designed by some overpriced ad agency.'Chairman' May was a perfect
TV pitchman, delivering memorized lines with what someone called "cut glass
politeness""You will have all possible rights under International Law,'
he promised Slobodan Milosevic along with hundreds of millions of viewers at
least six times, as if we're all fools, as if Milosevic were a fool, as if
in this theme park of a court room with its bit actors in designer robes,
this drone of a Chairman was addressing some fellow second rate actor rather
than the man who led the country which for ten years resisted Washington's
attempt to destroy it in violation of every international law, an actual
statesman who had just been kidnapped by quisling Serbs - the greatest shame
for all Serbs - kidnapped on orders of a monstrous foreign power, as if
Slobodan Milosevic could reasonably be expected to act like a well behaved
slave and say, 'yes, sir, anything you say, sir...'"It's a very
complicated process," cooed false May. "Don't you think you might want to
reconsider your decision to defend yourself?" "I consider this tribunal
false tribunal and indictments false indictments. It is illegal, not being
appointed by UN general assembly so I have no need to appoint council to
illegal organ," said the real Slobodan Milosevic. "Mr. {President..."
I think that was the first time May cut his mike.May pouted to
the cameras, as if to say: 'Why is this man not cooperating?' But he
maintained his cut-glass tones, explaining to the three hundred million that
of course this unwise decision could be reversed anytime because NATO's
court was entirely fair minded and now would or perhaps would not Mr.
Milosevic care to exercise his inalienable right to listen to the indictment
of lies?"That's your problem," said Milosevic.May looked
definitely pained, telling the world: 'Now do you see why we had to drop
uranium-encased bombs on them? '"What is your plea?""This
Tribunal aims to produce false justification for the war crimes committed in
Yugoslavia.""I asked you a question," said May, telling the world:
'Don't test us; we only have so much patience.'"And I have given you
my answer," replied Milosevic. "This Tribunal - - " but May cut his
microphone again.One almost expected the Director to shout "CUT! Mr. M.,
if it's not too much trouble, could you kindly stick to your lines? 'NATO
Shows The World It Isn't Just Nazis With A Smiling Face,' Take
Two!"***Parting Thought: Do you recall that two days ago the
"Telegraph" (and other papers) assured us that Milosevic's legal strategy
would be to say "Sure I committed war crimes, but Western leaders helped me
do it." And remember that I said they were making the whole thing up?
( See: http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/dis.htm)Well,
next time you read some article where Milosevic or somebody else opposing
Washington is reported saying or doing something which it would REALLY help
Washington for him or her to say or do, and you in your kindness of heart
start to think, "There must be SOME truth to this - they couldn't just make
the whole thing up," just recall the difference between what they told us
Milosevic was going
[CTRL] Fw: Transcript of Conversation Between Djindjic and Kostunica
- Original Message - From: TARGETS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:08 AM Subject: Transcript of Conversation Between Djindjic and Kostunica Alleged Transcript of Conversation Between Djindjic and Kostunica Just Prior to Milosevic's Kidnapping The following, from a Belgrade newspaper, speaks for itself. - Jared Israel 18:16 NEDELJNI TELEGRAF - the Exclusive Discussion between President Kostunica and PM Djindjic on Extradition of Milosevic The NEDELJNI TELEGRAF Belgrade weekly in its special number dealingwith extradition of Slobodan Milosevic to The Hague Tribunal, publishes a number of exclusive pictures and the transcript of the phone discussion about extradition between Yugoslav President Vojislav Kostunica and Serb PM Zoran Djindjic before the departure of the latter to talks with William Montgomery, the U.S. Ambassador to Yugoslavia. This is the transcript made by NEDELJNI TELEGRAF: PM Djindjic: "What shall I say to Montgomery?" President Kostunica remains silent... PM Djindjic: "Very well then, in this case I will resign, and you rule alone!" President Kostunica: "Come on, don't rush, we need no quarrels." PM Djindjic: "All right, but what shall I say? Yes or no?" President Kostunica (after a pause): "Yes." The URL for this article is http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/partners2.htm www.tenc.net [Emperor's Clothes] TARGETS - Independent monthly paper on international affairs Sloterkade 20 1058 HE Amsterdam The Netherlands Ph. ++ 31 20 615 1122 Fax: ++ 31 20 615 1120
[CTRL] CNN: Condit denies urging anyone to mislead in Levy case
-Caveat Lector- http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/07/03/missing.intern/ Statement by Rep. Condit: http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/07/03/missing.intern/letter2.gif Statement by Condit's attorneys: http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/07/03/missing.intern/letter.gif Condit denies urging anyone to mislead in Levy case July 3, 2001 Posted: 5:41 PM EDT (2141 GMT) Condit's statement said he did not try to influence flight attendant Smith's statement. Statement distributed by Anne Marie Smith's attorney http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/07/03/smith.affidavit/ Flight attendant Anne Marie Smith, 39, told Fox News that Condit urged her to sign what she called a false affidavit swearing there was nothing between them. Smith said that she came forward because I was concerned about my safety. When the FBI contacted her later to ask about Levy, Smith said Condit became upset when she told him about the contact. He said, 'You don't have to talk to the media. You don't have to talk to anybody. You don't even have to talk to the FBI,' Smith said. If true, the allegations could put Condit at risk of charges he attempted to obstruct an investigation. Condit, 53, is scheduled to return to Modesto -- Levy's hometown and the hub of his district -- for a Fourth of July parade, according to Mayor Carmen Sabatino. Extra security will be on hand, Sabatino said. Condit attorney says no coercion Condit's San Francisco attorney, Joe Cotchett, also released a statement saying that his office had provided Smith's attorney, Jim Robinson of Seattle, with a suggested statement, but that neither he nor Condit had tried to coerce her to sign a false statement. Anne Marie Smith Cotchett noted that the original allegations appeared in the tabloid Star magazine, and that his office had contacted Smith after the publication. She indicated it was totally out of proportion and that her roommates were paid by the Star to talk about it, Cotchett's statement said. She was very cordial but also very, very embarrassed. Cotchett said he had asked Smith's attorney if his client would provide a statement regarding her relationship with Condit, and that Robinson had requested a draft statement for his review. Cotchett provided a copy of the statement that he sent to Robinson and Smith to news media. Attached to the statement was a note instructing Robinson to edit, cut, suggest, etc. Levy disappeared a day later than originally thought A police source supervising the Levy investigation told CNN on Monday that computer records show Levy was in her apartment on May 1. Chandra Levy Police originally said she disappeared April 30, but an analysis of the laptop computer in Levy's apartment found she sent an e-mail message on May 1, the source said. She was last reported seen April 30 at her Washington gym. Police have twice interviewed Condit in relation to the case. On Monday, Assistant District of Columbia Police Chief Terrance Gainer said dogs specially trained to detect cadavers would be brought to landfills and trash bins serving the apartment and vicinity where Levy lived. The search will likely begin later this week or early next week, police said. Police have also said they have no clues to indicate Levy might be dead but want to be thorough and are looking for any clues to her disappearance. They continue to insist the case is a missing person investigation, not a criminal investigation. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to
Re: [CTRL] Protect Your Children from the Invasion of the Lesbians and Homosexual
-Caveat Lector- My, my NESSIE...not only is your spring wound rather too tightly...you're really quite paranoid...try a sense of humour ;o} PROVOCATEUR --- Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- HA HA HA HA HA ...but a bit over the top on the letter of apology thing, don't you think?? If you advocate shooting innocent people and not even apologizing, you are evil. Do the world a favor. Die off. Quit wasting air. If you are just trying disrupt the harmony of this list, tell us who is paying you. We'd really like to know. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FOXNews: Condit Talked of Being 'In Trouble', Says Flight Attendant
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bill Nalty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: CAS: FOX: Condit Talked of Being 'In Trouble', Says Flight Attendant http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,28740,00.html Fox News Tuesday, July 03, 2001 Condit Talked of Being 'In Trouble', Says Flight Attendant By Rita Cosby WASHINGTON - Rep. Gary Condit said he might be in trouble and have to disappear for a while shortly after Chandra Levy vanished, says the woman who also told Fox News she had a year-long affair with the California congressman. He called me approximately May 5 or 6 saying, 'I'm going to have to disappear for a while, don't call me,' flight attendant Anne Marie Smith said in an exclusive interview on Monday. I said, 'Well, are you in trouble? Is it your job? Is it your family?' And he said, 'No, none of that, but I think I may be in some trouble.' Smith said that when she finally got in touch with Condit, to tell him that she had been contacted by the FBI, he did not respond well when she told him what was happening. I said, I have been contacted by this agency, and I want you to know and I said, you know, it was just a routine questioning, they said they would keep my name confidential, she said. He was really upset with me, he said, 'Oh, I see how you are, I see what you're doing.' And I said, 'No, you know, I've never been in a situation like this.' ... He said 'You don't have to talk to the media, you don't have to talk to anybody. You don't even have to talk to the FBI.' Condit's office on Tuesday issued a two-sentence statement denying he told anyone not to discuss the Levy case with investigators. I have repeatedly urged anyone who has any information that could help police find Chandra Levy to come forward, tell all they know, and be as forthcoming as possible, the statement read. I have not asked anyone to refrain from discussing this matter with authorities, nor have I suggested anyone mislead the authorities. Smith reportedly told the FBI she ended the romantic relationship with Condit when she saw press reports about Levy, a source close to the woman told Fox News. Smith also said Condit told her he was lonely in Washington, with his chronically ill wife spending 99 percent of her time in California. In the same interview, first reported on the Fox News Channel Monday night, Smith also said the congressman asked her to sign a declaration denying their relationship, and told her she did not need to talk to the FBI following Levy's disappearance. Smith told Fox News she refused to sign the draft of a declaration that was submitted by Condit attorneys to her lawyers, and insisted the California Democrat knew the document was a lie. Mr. Condit knew it was false and he was asking me to sign it and, I personally could never have signed it, Smith said in an interview on Monday. I would never have signed it. And he was urging me to sign it, he said you don't want anything, this could be personally embarrassing for both of us. Condit's lawyers have declined to comment on any relationship he may have had with Smith. Smith's lawyers on Monday evening supplied Fox News with a copy of what they said was a draft of the declaration. They said the document contained a note written by Don Thornton, an investigator who works with Condit's West Coast attorney. Jim Robinson, Smith's attorney, claims to have had a phone conversation with Thornton in which the latter referred to the form as an affidavit. Robinson says the document is indeed an affidavit, as opposed to a declaration, since it is composed of the specialized vocabulary of the legal profession called legalese. On Tuesday, Condit attorney James W. Cotchett released a statement in which he said that it was Robinson's idea for Condit's people to send over a draft statement setting the record straight on Condit and Smiths' relationship. He said Smith later decided not to sign the statement because it was a personal matter and she didn't want to get involved any further. While not outright denying a romance between Condit and Smith, Cotchett implied that the relationship between them had been exaggerated, and that Smith had acknowledged as much. She indicated it was totally out of proportion and taht her roommates were paid by the Star to talk about her, his statement read. She was very cordial, but also very, very embarrassed. Smith, 39, said she has not spoken to Condit since one or two weeks before Levy vanished. Smith also said she knew the California Democrat was married and suspected he might be seeing someone else, but she didn't know for sure. Levy, the 24-year-old California native who had just finished an internship at the Bureau of Prisons, was last seen on April 30. She came from Modesto, Calif., Condit's congressional district. Condit, 53 and married, has repeatedly said through public statements he and Levy were only good friends. In an interview with
[CTRL] ABCNews: Condit Denies Cover-Up; Denies Woman's Claims
-Caveat Lector- http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/levy_pm010703.html Condit's one-page statement:(PDF File): http://abcnews.go.com/sections/pdf/condit_statement.pdf Condit Denies Cover-Up Congressman Denies Woman's Claims W A S H I N G T O N, July 3 - Rep. Gary Condit and one of his lawyers today denied trying to pressure a woman into lying about an alleged relationship with the congressman. A flight attendant had told Fox News on Monday that a private investigator had pressed her to sign an affidavit denying a 10-month affair with the California congressman. In fact, United Airlines flight attendant Anne Marie Smith said, there had been a romantic relationship. I have not asked anyone to refrain from discussing this matter with authorities, nor have I suggested anyone misled the authorities, Condit said in a brief, one-page statement. (Statement - PDF) Condit's alleged relationship with Smith has become an issue as police and FBI agents investigate his relationship with missing intern Chandra Levy. Smith said she knew nothing about any relationship Condit might have had with Levy, but claimed the congressman had told her she did not need to speak to the FBI. Law enforcement officials told ABCNEWS that Smith's story might not have any direct relevance to the Levy case, but it raises questions about possible obstruction of justice. Condit's lawyer in California, Joseph Cotchett, also released a statement today refuting claims that anyone had pressured Smith on his behalf. Cotchett said his office had merely e-mailed her attorney a draft statement based on phone conversations with the congressman's staff and the flight attendant. A copy of the e-mail also released by Cotchett said at the top, Please edit, cut, suggest, etc. Condit's attorney in Washington, Abbe Lowell, described the flight attendant's story as craziness. 'Potentially Embarrassing' A highly placed law enforcement source in Washington told ABCNEWS that there have been no new developments in the hunt for Levy. He said there was no new lead that led them to begin searching landfills, describing the move as a natural progression in a missing person case. It just means that police are looking at things they had not looked at thus far under regular procedures. The source expressed frustration that it's been a couple months since Levy's disappearance and so little progress has been made. He said it would be good to get the case solved for the family's sake. Smith told Fox that Condit called her soon after the Levy story broke and asked her to keep quiet about their relationship. He said, 'You don't want anything - this could be potentially embarrassing for both of us,' Smith said. When she talked to him about the FBI questioning her, she said, she told him it was a routine interview and that they were talking to a lot of people that he knew. Hiding in Plain Sight Smith's lawyer, Jim Robinson, said that the person who asked her to sign the affidavit was a private investigator working for Cotchett. Levy, 24, was last seen on April 30, and her last known communication - an e-mail to her parents in California - was received on May 1. In the weeks since Levy's disappearance, speculation has centered around her connection to Condit, the Democratic congressman who represents the Northern California district where Levy's family lives. Levy, who had just finished an internship at the Federal Bureau of Prisons, was apparently planning to return home when she disappeared. In prepared statements, Condit, 53, has called Levy a good friend. His aides have denied that the married congressman had any romantic relationship with the young woman. Her parents, however, have said they suspect she may have been having an affair with him. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
Re: [CTRL] Who is AGENT PROVOCATEUR?
-Caveat Lector- Well...am certainly NOT June... :o} provocateur ** --- YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Jeff Russo wrote: We have a new poster, Agent Provocateur. It is time for the usual speculation as to which current or former CTRL personality this person really is. The mail is from an easily-gotten Yahoo account. The odds: Bill Cooper 7/2 Colleen Jones8/1 Henry Ayre 12/1 Peter Anthony30/1 flw 100/1 Mike Spitzer200/1 Prudy 800/1 nessie 800/1 Kris 1000/1 Aw, heck! I'm not worth even a mention?;-) June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (basic) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] America's Greatest Document
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! America's Greatest Document By Chuck Baldwin July 3, 2001 Without a doubt, the Declaration of Independence is America's greatest document. However, the Declaration is more than a historical document; it is America's birth certificate. If the Constitution contains the meat and bones of this country, then The Declaration of Independence contains the nation's heart and soul. At the Third Continental Congress in 1776, John Adams spoke these words: Before God I believe the hour has come. My judgment approves this measure, and my whole heart is in it. All I have, and all that I am, and all that I hope in this life, I am now ready here to stake upon it. And I leave off as I began, that live or die, survive or perish, I am for the Declaration. It is my living sentiment, and by the blessing of God it shall be my dying sentiment. Such was the sentiment of every man who signed that immortal document. For six months after the Declaration was signed on July 4, 1776, the signatures were kept secret. Those 56 men knew the significance of the last paragraph, in which they pledged their lives and fortunes and sacred honor. For them, those were not flowery words; they represented an eternal commitment. And they all paid a price in order to prove it. Of those 56 signers, 14 lost their lives as captive soldiers or casualties in the war for independence. Some lost their sons. Many saw their lands and properties destroyed. Their stories should be required reading for every American citizen. Sadly, few today remember their heroic deeds. Carter Braxton was a wealthy planter and trader before the war. Afterward, he lost his home and all his property and died in rags. Thomas Lynch, Jr. owned a large plantation. After signing the Declaration, his health failed. He and his wife set sail for France to find respite, but their ship never arrived in France, and he was never heard from again. Thomas Nelson, Jr. raised more than two million dollars to purchase provisions for our allies, the French fleet. After the war, he personally paid back the loans, wiping out his entire estate. In the battle of Yorktown, he urged General Washington to fire on his own home, which was occupied by Cornwallis. The home was destroyed. Nelson died bankrupt and was buried in an unmarked grave. Francis Lewis lost everything he owned. His wife was imprisoned and died shortly thereafter. Lewis Morris lost his land and his family. Philip Livingston died from hardships of the war. John Hart was driven from his wife's deathbed. Their thirteen children fled for their lives in all directions. After the war, he returned home to find his wife dead and his children and property gone. He died a few weeks later of exhaustion and a broken heart. Of the 56 signers, few were long to survive. Five were captured by the British and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes looted or burned. Two lost their sons in battle. Nine died in the war from its hardships or from enemy bullets. As you celebrate Independence Day tomorrow, remember to thank God for the character and courage of those 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence and for the rest of our Founding Fathers who were willing to sacrifice everything so that you and I could be free! Then say a prayer for God to put that same kind of character and courage into our own hearts so that freedom and independence can be bequeathed to the next generation of Americans. And don't forget to keep your powder dry! *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL
[CTRL] 04 July 2001 Federalist #01-27.dgst
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! * Veritas Vos Liberabit * THE FEDERALIST(r) DIGEST The Conservative e-Journal of Record 04 July 2001 Federalist #01-27.dgst SPECIAL EDITION -- INDEPENDENCE DAY 2001 Retrieve today's Digest as HTML printer-friendly text or PDF -- it's much easier reading than e-mail text! Link to: http://www.Federalist.com/current2001.asp To purchase a book from the Patriot's Library, link to -- http://www.federalist.com/books.asp To support or sponsor The Federalist, link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/support.asp CONTENTS: The Founders The Declaration Insight Good News Upright The Gipper For the Record Independence Day 2001 PUBLISHER'S NOTE: We stand in reverence and the immeasurable debt of all those who have fallen in defense of freedom in the 225 years since the signing of our Declaration of Independence. As we celebrate freedom this Independence Day, The Federalist Editorial Board extends our gratitude to all of our readers for making this First Amendment exercise in freedom possible. God bless each of you and your families! We invite you to visit the Historic Documents section of The Federalist Web site to view and read the Declaration of Independence in preparation for Independence Day. Visit -- http://www.Federalist.com/histdocs/decorig.jpg http://www.Federalist.com/histdocs/declaration.htm __O__ THE FOUNDERS We have this day restored the Sovereign to whom alone men ought to be obedient. --Samuel Adams __O__ THE DECLARATION Yesterday, the greatest Question was decided, which ever was debated in America, and a greater perhaps, never was nor will be decided among Men. A Resolution was passed without one dissenting Colony, 'that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, and as such they have, and of Right ought to have, full power to make War, conclude Peace, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which other States may rightfully do.' --John Adams to Abigail Adams, July 3, 1776 When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. ... We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. --A Declaration by the Representatives of the United States of America in General Congress Assembled July 4, 1776 May it [the Declaration of Independence] be to the world what I believe will be (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all), the signal of arousing man to burst the chains under which monkish ignorance and superstition has persuaded them to bind themselves, and to assume the blessings of security and self-government. --Thomas Jefferson The 56 Signers Of The Declaration Of Independence New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton; Massachusetts Bay: Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry, John Hancock; NEW YORK: Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frans. Lewis, Lewis Morris; North Carolina: Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn; South Carolina: Edward Rutledge, Thos. Heyward, Junr., Thomas Lynch, Junr., Arthur Middleton; New Jersey: Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John Hart, Abra. Clark; Rhode Island: Step. Hopkins, William Ellery; Delaware: Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read, Tho. M'Kean; Maryland: Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton; Connecticut: Roger Sherman, Sam'el Huntington; Wm. Williams; Oliver Wolcott; Georgia: Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton; Pennsylvania: Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross; VIRGINIA: George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Th. Jefferson, Benja. Harrison, Ths. Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton After signing the American Declaration of Independence, the new Congress appointed a committee to design a
[CTRL] AF News 4 Jul 01
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 0900. Air Force secretary and chief send holiday message by James G. Roche, secretary of the Air Force and Gen. Michael E. Ryan, Air Force chief of staff WASHINGTON (AFPN) - July 4, 1776, marked an extraordinary turning point in history. The Declaration of Independence adopted by the Continental Congress was, and still is, a revolutionary step in governance. It focused on the good of the individual as well as the good of society. More than 225 years later, those revolutionary ideas continue to flourish on this globe. The American Revolution was based on the founding fathers' vision of liberty - one in which they placed all their trust and their very lives. Their courage has inspired countless Americans to serve our country in public life and the armed services to build this great nation. We owe a debt to all those who have gone before us for their sacrifices for our freedom. To each and every military member and civilian on duty around the world, we salute you. We are proud to serve with you, as together we protect and preserve the extraordinary freedoms won by those who have gone before us. 0902. Some did not get correct pay, officials say RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas (AFPN) -- Air Force Personnel Center officials here are asking people who have re-enlisted, extended their enlistments or been promoted recently to look closely at their latest Leave and Earnings Statements to ensure they are receiving all of their pay. Problems with the Air Force's new personnel data system may have caused the suspension of pay records for hundreds who re-enlisted within 30 days of their dates of separation or who have extended their enlistment since late April. These problems could lead to those individuals not being paid, said officials here. What this means is that some folks may not have gotten paid, or may not see expected increases in their pay, said Lt. Col. Richard Treasure, chief of the systems requirements division here. This really bothers us since we've been working hardest with this transition to keep peoples' pay from being affected. And it takes on that much more urgency now. There is, however, a way for those impacted to receive their money, according to Defense Finance and Accounting Service officials. Affected airmen can take their re-enlistment or extension contract to their accounting and finance office to receive their pay through electronic funds transfer that takes, on average, three to five days. Another problem affects the pay of airmen promoted in June. Some officers and enlisted members promoted in June did not get their pay increase on time, according to Treasure. That problem should be corrected by the middle of July, he said. Individuals who find discrepancies with their LES should work with their local military personnel flights and accounting and finance offices, he said. (Courtesy of AFPC News Service) 0901. Officer trainee dies after morning run MAXWELL AIR FORCE BASE, Ala. (AFPN) -- An officer trainee died here July 2 after collapsing during morning physical conditioning. Officer Trainee Angel A. Castro Jr., assigned to the Officer Training School here, collapsed during a morning run at 5:50 a.m. Two trained medical technicians, who were also officer trainees in class 01-07, administered CPR immediately. An ambulance then transported the trainee to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead at 6:40 a.m. Castro was in the sixth week of a 12-week officer training program that began May 29. Before coming to OTS, he was an avionics technician at Elmendorf Air Force Base, Alaska. He had been in the Air Force 15 years and attained the rank of technical sergeant. An autopsy will be performed to determine the exact cause of death. Lt. Gen. Donald Lamontagne, Air University commander, has elected a commander-directed investigation of the circumstances regarding Castro's death. (Courtesy of Air Force Education and Training Command News Service) 0903. AEDC begins next 50 years ARNOLD AIR FORCE BASE, Tenn. (AFPN) -- Arnold Engineering Development Center celebrated its 50th anniversary with a rededication ceremony June 25. President Harry S. Truman dedicated Arnold Engineering Development Center here to the memory of five-star General of the Air Force Henry Hap Arnold June 25, 1951. Truman's speech was dedicated not only to the general but also to Dr. Theodore von Karman who authored Towards New Horizons, the blueprint for Air Force research and development and the foundation for AEDC. Truman, in his original speech, used a term common to people today, but unheard of in 1951, Gen. Lester Lyles, Air Force Materiel Command commander, said. It was the first speech dedicated to air power, Lyles said. We talk a lot about air power today, but the first mention of the word air power came from President Truman. Lyles re-emphasized Truman's point when he said Arnold
Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- Which authorities should go first? The CEOs of the multinational corporations. They're the ones who really rule the world. Work down from there. Hear hear!!! Then move to the CEO's of national corlporations. All starting from the biggest. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Company 'close' to producing first human clone
-Caveat Lector- From Ananova, http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_343418.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscove ry - Company 'close' to producing first human clone The first human clone is likely to be produced very soon, according to an American scientist. Brigitte Boisselier, director of scientific company Clonaid, has told USA Today that the project is on schedule. She refused to be drawn on when it was likely to be and what stage the project was at. She was speaking as she revealed the project had been put under pressure to stop its work by the American Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which oversees medical experiments in the country. Clonaid, based in Syracuse, New York, is working for the Raelians, a cult which believes cloning will lead to eternal life but has now closed its American laboratory and is working at a secret location. The FDA wrote to her, Ms Boisselier told the newspaper, and said she should stop experiments until the law in America on cloning is clarified, prompting the firm to move its operation abroad. Two bills which would outlaw human cloning are currently being considered by America's House of Representatives but Ms Boisselier said she believed cloning was a right. She said: My goal is as it always has been: a very healthy baby. The right of an individual to use his own genes as he wants is a basic human freedom. It's a pity that may not happen (in the US) because this is the most advanced country for science. The cloning company's first customers and main financial backers are the Canadian parents of a baby boy who died at 10 months and who want their son back. They are members of the cult and want to use their dead baby's DNA to create a replica. Human cloning is banned in Britain and the rest of Europe, as well as Canada, making the US one of the few countries not to outlaw it. Story filed: 17:07 Tuesday 3rd July 2001 -- Dan S [ISML] Insane Science Mailing List - To subscribe: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/isml Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Sexual Identity Crises 2 (was: Hashish grows...)
-Caveat Lector- heh - can't we have a more meaty conspiracy contribution than that - I mean if there are CIA agent provacateurs winding up aleisha because they know something that the rest of the list doesn't - then we want to know why aleisha is a target. yeah, yeah - she's controversial - but I think that appearances are very deceptive and that most of the list are unaware of the real politics behind the character assassination. so tell us YnRttyybbEE what's the real beef ??? andrew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- kl wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 2 Jul 2001, at 22:20, Damian B. Cooper wrote: If the world population is to be reduced, does it matter which specific populations are reduced? I appreciate your serious response. I would prefer to let natural processes determine which populations survive rather than to allow some self-appointed elitist to make the decision for us. Self appointed elitists ARE a natural process. Joshua2 BTW, are you a computer program? -- Best wishes A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
