Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
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Hey GOAT,
I dunno if you've come accross Dan Winter before, but his website puts some
graphics and visual aids to work in helping folks understand this stuff
years of dissolute living have rendered the math centers in my brain a
little to wholey for some of the stuff, but I enjoy what I can understand of
it.
see:
http://www.danwinter.com
Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
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For a couple of decades now, I've been fascinated by Cathie's work --which I
can just barely understand, at best-- because my "gut" tells me he's on to
something DEEP ... Combine Bruce Cathie's hypotheses with Bucky Fuller's in
"Synergistics" and you've got something like the most fundamental
HERMETICISM
regarding "creation" ex nihilo ... I.e., "Space"-like light-energy
"stepped
down" through "octaves" of frequencies and wavelengths, harmonically, into
"layers" of mass of varying complexity and density, with those "layers,"
like
geological strata, across epochs "disintegrating" into microcosmic mass-unit
"particles ... With that framework within which this process occurs starting
off an a "dimensionalization" through "current" flowing through an initial
"point" (quantum) in a vibratory sequence which is, in "rotation" or "orbit"
half wave or field and half particle (a sequential yet cyclic change in the
ratio between space-like "energy" and "mass," along a "time"-like vector
representing a kind of "higher" but deeper dimension in the world of
sub-quantum probabilities) ... from the archetypal Point to Line, and
through
Angle, to Plane, and through replications of Plane forming "slices," to
Solid, and ALL these as a "holographic" multiplication of the same Point
through Time ("flow") operating under a system of right-angle "rotatory"
relations to ITSELF ... Geometry, used to analyze and mathematize a body,
applied IN REVERSE, so to speak ... Hence the 4 or 5 esoteric "instruments"
of the Ceremonial Magician's Work-ing in his "magic circle" (a "sphere,"
actually) -- the Wand (focused at a point), the Sword (with a linear edge),
the Pentacle or Platter (a circular or square plane), the Cup (an
incomplete,
intermediate receptacle)
and the ORB or CUBE -- depending on whether one is dealing with curved
spacetime as
in nature (the planet being an example) or with an ABSTRACT "flat" or
"square" math
minus the effects of gravity, in a closed system. Hence the symbolism of
Masonry,
with reference to the "construction" of physical reality (at least HUMAN
reality, aware
of tools that can measure, angle, weight, etc.) by the Great Architect of
the
Universe, and its origin, possibly, among the Phoenician "Builders" of
Solomon's Temple -- built as a receptacle to house the Ark, in which
(traditionally) were stored an analogous set of HOLY "weights and measures,"
the FLOWERING (radiation of growth from a POINT) rod of Aaron, the sword of
Phinehas (its length the standard for a cubit), the cup of "manna" (standard
for liquid volume) ["manna" comes a Hebrew root *M-N meaning "to measure"],
the two TABLETS (flat-plane standards, esp. for the sacred right angle),
etc.
In short, there's a very ANCIENT mathematical/geometrical grasp of PHYSICS
here, going back from Plato to at least Pythagoras, and even beyond to the
Near East ...
And that's what Cathie's "vibratory harmonics of Light (energy)" reminds me
of ...
If the earthly physical plane (in the overall) is a "hologram" of
energy/mass, and energy is "free" to those who know HOW to "evoke" it from
the quantum Akasha --whose own biological FORMS would be only "holograms" of
similar construction, of which they'd presumably be in greater CONTROL--
then
the "objective" world of our senses is at bottom only a SUB-set of a less
"fixed," more "dream-like" SUBJECTIVE reality. In such a reality,
"magicians" would create *illusions* in which "scientists," viewing things
as
determinants rather than products, would in effect find themselves to be
prisoners --
and would therefore convince "rational"-minded human beings to function
mechanically, like automatons, in a Simulacrum (a limited, imperfect
SIMULATION of Reality) which actually EXCLUDES those very very qualities of
human mind and will --freedom of thought to imagine new vistas of the
"possible"
Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/23/99 11:29:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MHO, No, it boils down to math numbers, truth and beauty. Yes, there is a place where time and space are nothing/same but to realize that one must enter a god like state. A god like state has its own "protections" either a person burns or his able to 'transcend" and be. Fleeting glimpses are shown/experienced by mankind. Most sci-fi, is just that fiction. Physical time travel is impossible, spirtual affectation of nullification of that continuum is attainable there are thoughts in time that one can mingle and times of unity that have ripples for those sensitive. Unital values are very important for introduction of alchemical change upon the brain's conceptulization and culture. Mankind is very old and there have many wise souls alongthe way you have told us all we need to know. There are "renegade priests" attacking the very psyche of the world for power, control and wealth. The secret societies hide behind the facades of wealth and privelege but are naked before man and God. HG wells was a big fabian--wolf in sheep's clothing, gradualists --breaking down beliefs and following occultic ritual to subdue us, hoi polloi. We make our reality one stupid mistke, one brilliant flash, one oppressed moment at a time. Reality always has its moments of opportunity and windows beyond our ken. The force of culture and generation steamrolls. Either dark age or transparency, me I vote transparency. Om K Are you saying that you believe our physical existence to be a reality that is existent beyond us, and which binds us? I agrere wholeheartedly with your comments about the secret societies clouding issues and using occultic symbolism and ceremony to "hoodwink" us and use our spiritual energy for the furtherance of their own power and wealth. In my view Physicality itself is illusory, since IF we are TO BE immortal and everlasting we MUST be so now, and since "flesh" is not everlasting we have no corporeal nature, it is an imposition. Our reality is a collective that is given power by continued belief over eons and the continued belief in it now which is strengthened by the priesthood of modern scientists who order and categorize it. Naturally to transcend this physicality one must enter a god like state since by its very nature you would be god like and outside the bounds of the rules in which we live now, and be no longer subject to them. IF all time is NOW, then all things must BE NOW, thus we are transcendant immortal beings of spirit, and merely percieve things to be otherwise. Ritual is used to reveal this to us, and certainly I would grant your comments on mathematics as well, because after all, math is a powerful form of ritual, an ordering and a rendering of "reality". I would like to hear more of this topic, but understand it may not be for the list, or is it? it? * "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/22/99 12:40:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "[T]he Sword of Phinehas (thrust through a man and a woman joined in sexual union"... does this mean that the Phineas Priests radically misinterpreted the episode from which they take their name? I.e., if what was portrayed in the Bible as purely an act of racial and cultic purification was in fact an act of magickal power...how much MORE of the Bible has hidden (occult!) significance? This is a very interesting question. There is, of course, much in the bible which is occultic in provenence which is only slightly hidden, but deeper ideas may also be hidden as well. Consider the "orders" by YHWH to Saul and other Kings of Israel to kill EVERYONE of the enemy, even the women and children as well as all the animals. This is very much like a magical act to erase the identity of the group for all time, a sacrifice of mammoth proportions. Indeed, the sacrificial nature of Jewish religion could be seen in a purely Magickal light, in that the spilling of blood, and SECRET rituals by the ELITE of the society (priests), could garner favor from "supreme" being(s), and give POWER to the practitioners. practitioners. ** *** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/22/99 5:47:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the earthly physical plane (in the overall) is a "hologram" of energy/mass, and energy is "free" to those who know HOW to "evoke" it from the quantum Akasha --whose own biological FORMS would be only "holograms" of similar construction, of which they'd presumably be in greater CONTROL-- then the "objective" world of our senses is at bottom only a SUB-set of a less "fixed," more "dream-like" SUBJECTIVE reality. In such a reality, "magicians" would create *illusions* in which "scientists," viewing things as determinants rather than products, would in effect find themselves to be prisoners -- and would therefore convince "rational"-minded human beings to function mechanically, like automatons, in a Simulacrum (a limited, imperfect SIMULATION of Reality) which actually EXCLUDES those very very qualities of human mind and will --freedom of thought to imagine new vistas of the "possible" and freedom of action to (sometimes) do the "impossible"-- which could enable human beings to MASTER this "illusion" ... Which may be what some "Gnostics" (not the life-HATING ones) have been telling us, from long before Plato, to Philip K. Dick and "The Matrix" TODAY ... Who says that the "shaman's" realm is any less "orderly" than the "laws" of SCIENCE's idea of 'Nature'? Well, well, I just love it when you philosophise! My take on this thing is to point out a couple of things for discussion. First there is an inordinate mentioning of MEASURING in the Bible, is there not? This could be more occultic hidden language as well. In line with the view that "rational" scientists are the ones that are imposing their idea of the "orderliness" of "objective" reality on the rest is the fact that ALL things are supposed to answer to the LAW as it is stated. There are anomolies though, especially in quantum mechanics. Wouldn't it be interesting IF the scientists are so trapped in their mindset of their own subjective view of reality being OBJECTIVELY true that through their force of will we are being made to accept it as our own view of reality as well. In this sense scientists would be like a bunch of arch-mages controlling the world. In reality I believe it is more the product of incomplete thought that results in the "accepted" view of reality. People fail to pay attention and notice the anomolies (like NEO's character in The Matrix DID NOTICE with the black cat repeating it's actions) that would enable them to step from the mold. Additionally reality as we percieve it to be must be a construct of a huge amount of thought energy which I don't think is sustainable by such a comparatively small group of people against the potentially universe shattering force of 5+ other billion people (unless of course those "other" people are constructs of the "false reality"). Forgive me I am getting far afield. To put it in a nutshell it is my belief that People as a collective mental entity "create" and sustain the "Illusory, OBjective Reality", and the "laws" of science are the framework that has been adopted for which the illusion must follow. Strong minds or those who are able to get "outside" of this powerful force of will can cause anomolies and make things happen (which are mostly not noticed). In REAL Reality EVERYONE has the INNATE ability to nullify the bonds which confine him and to fly, be energy, travel instantaneously, gain knowledge instantaneously, etc. In practice it rarely happens because it is percieved to be hard, and in the end not worth the effort. effort. * "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/23/99 6:22:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To put it in a nutshell it is my belief that People as a collective mental entity "create" and sustain the "Illusory, OBjective Reality", and the "laws" of science are the framework that has been adopted for which the illusion must follow. Strong minds or those who are able to get "outside" of this powerful force of will can cause anomolies and make things happen (which are mostly not noticed). In REAL Reality EVERYONE has the INNATE ability to nullify the bonds which confine him and to fly, be energy, travel instantaneously, gain knowledge instantaneously, etc. In practice it rarely happens because it is percieved to be hard, and in the end not worth the effort. MHO, No, it boils down to math numbers, truth and beauty. Yes, there is a place where time and space are nothing/same but to realize that one must enter a god like state. A god like state has its own "protections" either a person burns or his able to 'transcend" and be. Fleeting glimpses are shown/experienced by mankind. Most sci-fi, is just that fiction. Physical time travel is impossible, spirtual affectation of nullification of that continuum is attainable there are thoughts in time that one can mingle and times of unity that have ripples for those sensitive. Unital values are very important for introduction of alchemical change upon the brain's conceptulization and culture. Mankind is very old and there have many wise souls alongthe way you have told us all we need to know. There are "renegade priests" attacking the very psyche of the world for power, control and wealth. The secret societies hide behind the facades of wealth and privelege but are naked before man and God. HG wells was a big fabian--wolf in sheep's clothing, gradualists --breaking down beliefs and following occultic ritual to subdue us, hoi polloi. We make our reality one stupid mistke, one brilliant flash, one oppressed moment at a time. Reality always has its moments of opportunity and windows beyond our ken. The force of culture and generation steamrolls. Either dark age or transparency, me I vote transparency. Om K Om k DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
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For a couple of decades now, I've been fascinated by Cathie's work --which I
can just barely understand, at best-- because my "gut" tells me he's on to
something DEEP ... Combine Bruce Cathie's hypotheses with Bucky Fuller's in
"Synergistics" and you've got something like the most fundamental HERMETICISM
regarding "creation" ex nihilo ... I.e., "Space"-like light-energy "stepped
down" through "octaves" of frequencies and wavelengths, harmonically, into
"layers" of mass of varying complexity and density, with those "layers," like
geological strata, across epochs "disintegrating" into microcosmic mass-unit
"particles ... With that framework within which this process occurs starting
off an a "dimensionalization" through "current" flowing through an initial
"point" (quantum) in a vibratory sequence which is, in "rotation" or "orbit"
half wave or field and half particle (a sequential yet cyclic change in the
ratio between space-like "energy" and "mass," along a "time"-like vector
representing a kind of "higher" but deeper dimension in the world of
sub-quantum probabilities) ... from the archetypal Point to Line, and through
Angle, to Plane, and through replications of Plane forming "slices," to
Solid, and ALL these as a "holographic" multiplication of the same Point
through Time ("flow") operating under a system of right-angle "rotatory"
relations to ITSELF ... Geometry, used to analyze and mathematize a body,
applied IN REVERSE, so to speak ... Hence the 4 or 5 esoteric "instruments"
of the Ceremonial Magician's Work-ing in his "magic circle" (a "sphere,"
actually) -- the Wand (focused at a point), the Sword (with a linear edge),
the Pentacle or Platter (a circular or square plane), the Cup (an incomplete,
intermediate receptacle)
and the ORB or CUBE -- depending on whether one is dealing with curved
spacetime as
in nature (the planet being an example) or with an ABSTRACT "flat" or
"square" math
minus the effects of gravity, in a closed system. Hence the symbolism of
Masonry,
with reference to the "construction" of physical reality (at least HUMAN
reality, aware
of tools that can measure, angle, weight, etc.) by the Great Architect of the
Universe, and its origin, possibly, among the Phoenician "Builders" of
Solomon's Temple -- built as a receptacle to house the Ark, in which
(traditionally) were stored an analogous set of HOLY "weights and measures,"
the FLOWERING (radiation of growth from a POINT) rod of Aaron, the sword of
Phinehas (its length the standard for a cubit), the cup of "manna" (standard
for liquid volume) ["manna" comes a Hebrew root *M-N meaning "to measure"],
the two TABLETS (flat-plane standards, esp. for the sacred right angle), etc.
In short, there's a very ANCIENT mathematical/geometrical grasp of PHYSICS
here, going back from Plato to at least Pythagoras, and even beyond to the
Near East ...
And that's what Cathie's "vibratory harmonics of Light (energy)" reminds me
of ...
If the earthly physical plane (in the overall) is a "hologram" of
energy/mass, and energy is "free" to those who know HOW to "evoke" it from
the quantum Akasha --whose own biological FORMS would be only "holograms" of
similar construction, of which they'd presumably be in greater CONTROL-- then
the "objective" world of our senses is at bottom only a SUB-set of a less
"fixed," more "dream-like" SUBJECTIVE reality. In such a reality,
"magicians" would create *illusions* in which "scientists," viewing things as
determinants rather than products, would in effect find themselves to be
prisoners --
and would therefore convince "rational"-minded human beings to function
mechanically, like automatons, in a Simulacrum (a limited, imperfect
SIMULATION of Reality) which actually EXCLUDES those very very qualities of
human mind and will --freedom of thought to imagine new vistas of the
"possible" and freedom of action to (sometimes) do the "impossible"-- which
could enable human beings to MASTER this "illusion" ...
Which may be what some "Gnostics" (not the life-HATING ones) have been
telling us, from long before Plato, to Philip K. Dick and "The Matrix" TODAY
... Who says that the "shaman's" realm is any less "orderly" than the "laws"
of SCIENCE's idea of 'Nature'?
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Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
-Caveat Lector- Hey Das I have a few articles on this, being an astrologer etc interested in cyclic patterns influencing consciousness etc I'd like to post those which involve dealing with occult forces to transform this world against our collective will. What a mind you have! You could for your next mental challenge figure out exactly what the IIluminati are doing and then how it could be stopped. I'd appreciate that. If they are getting info off Ets for this, then we need better info to stop this program of interferring with /enhancing nature to bring about an idealised world for a few chosen, using artificial means. Any ideas other than disabling the culprits? The Mayan calendar seems to be what motivates them and if anyone knows which ETs are/were behind the Mayans I'd be interested. Nicky -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, 22 October 1999 22:48 Subject: Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program -Caveat Lector- For a couple of decades now, I've been fascinated by Cathie's work --which I can just barely understand, at best-- because my "gut" tells me he's on to something DEEP ... Combine Bruce Cathie's hypotheses with Bucky Fuller's in "Synergistics" and you've got something like the most fundamental HERMETICISM regarding "creation" ex nihilo ... I.e., "Space"-like light-energy "stepped down" through "octaves" of frequencies and wavelengths, harmonically, into " DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-10-22 05:47:59 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Solomon's Temple -- built as a receptacle to house the Ark, in which (traditionally) were stored an analogous set of HOLY "weights and measures," the FLOWERING (radiation of growth from a POINT) rod of Aaron, the sword of Phinehas (its length the standard for a cubit), Alternatively, the Rod (wand) of Aaron taken as standard for the cubit-length and the Sword of Phinehas (thrust through a man and a woman joined in sexual union -- as in the climactic scene in the movie "Lifeforce," full of Colin Wilson's occult symbolism) representing the point-source, here portrayed inverted, destroying rather than creating. All depends on how you read the symbols, according to variants of the same system, which does SEEM to underlie different, superficially "unrelated" frames of reference . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
-Caveat Lector- Try Reading Anna Hayes' Voyager series, especially the second Volume, "The Secrets of Amenti." It translates all this stuff into English. You can find it at www.5thworld.com/voyagers DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
-Caveat Lector- "[T]he Sword of Phinehas (thrust through a man and a woman joined in sexual union"... does this mean that the Phineas Priests radically misinterpreted the episode from which they take their name? I.e., if what was portrayed in the Bible as purely an act of racial and cultic purification was in fact an act of magickal power...how much MORE of the Bible has hidden (occult!) significance? -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 7:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-10-22 05:47:59 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Solomon's Temple -- built as a receptacle to house the Ark, in which (traditionally) were stored an analogous set of HOLY "weights and measures," the FLOWERING (radiation of growth from a POINT) rod of Aaron, the sword of Phinehas (its length the standard for a cubit), Alternatively, the Rod (wand) of Aaron taken as standard for the cubit-length and the Sword of Phinehas (thrust through a man and a woman joined in sexual union -- as in the climactic scene in the movie "Lifeforce," full of Colin Wilson's occult symbolism) representing the point-source, here portrayed inverted, destroying rather than creating. All depends on how you read the symbols, according to variants of the same system, which does SEEM to underlie different, superficially "unrelated" frames of reference . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
-Caveat Lector- anybody read this lengthy but intriguing piece? How 'bout this part: "One of the most startling facts that I discovered by the application of grid mathematics was that an atomic bomb is a device based on the geometrics of space and time. To be successfully detonated, the bomb must be geometrically constructed, placed on, under or over a geometric position in relation to the Earth's surface, and activated at a specific time in relation to the geometrics of the solar system. I found that it was possible to precalculate the times of various bomb tests and the locations where it was possible to explode a bomb. When it became known that I had discovered this well-kept secret, I was offered a position by the American Central Intelligence Agency." Y'all may be interested to know that I've heard the same exact story from Dan Winter. http://www.danwinter.com/ Upon visiting his website recently, I'm moved to wonder if Dan is acquainted with the ADL I wonder if our resident physical sciences genius has investigated "the grid" ? Einstein: E = mc2 Cathie Grid: m = [c + square root(1/c)] Therefore: E = [c + square root(1/c)]c2 -- Harmonic Equation 1 "No wonder the secret groups were getting uneasy about my findings. It was becoming obvious now that gravity and the so-called speed of light were harmonic reciprocals of each other" http://www.ultinet.com/~fancie/cathie2.htm Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/ncf http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ncnculture-L@Newciv. Org Subject: The World Energy Grid Program Excerpt from THE HARMONIC CONQUEST OF SPACE http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html http://21net.com/online/cathie.htm by Bruce Cathie Copyright (c) 1994 Bruce Cathie, Managing Director, Quark Enterprises Ltd. Research and Publishing DEFINITIONS OF TERMS Harmony and harmonic, as defined by the Britannica World Standard Dictionary: 1. Harmony: a state of order, agreement or completeness in the relations of things of parts of a whole to each other. 2. Harmonic: producing, characterised by or pertaining to harmony. a. Music: pertaining to a tone whose rate of vibration is an exact multiple of a given primary tone. b. Mathematical: derived from or originally suggested by the numerical relations between the vibrations of the musical harmonies or overtones of the same fundamental tone; harmonic functions. c. Physics: any component of a periodic quantity which is an integral multiple of the fundamental frequency. In this book, I discuss the fundamental harmonies of the vibrational frequencies which form the building blocks of our immediate Universe and those of the theoretical anti-Universe, which modern scientists have postulated as existing in mirror-like image of our own. I theorise that the whole of physical reality which is tangible to us is formed from the basic geometric harmonies or harmonics of the angular velocities, or waveforms, of light. From these basic harmonies or resonating wave-forms, myriad other waves are created which blend in sympathetic resonance, one with the other, thus forming the physical structures. Reality, in essence, is similar to a hologram. Einstein stated that the geometric structure of space-time determines the physical processes. I theorise that space and time manifest from the geometric harmonies of the wave-motions of light-the maximum fundamental harmonic of light, in geometric terms, being an angular velocity of 144,000 minutes of arc or nautical miles per grid second in relation to the Earth's surface and there being 97,000 grid seconds to one revolution of the Earth. It follows that the 'speed' of light, and time, would be directly related to one minute of arc on the surface of any other spherical planetary body. The 'speed' of light, in fact, is not a constant. It depends on the observer's relative position in space. Introduction The events which led up to the writing of this, my fifth book, began in 1952 when my life changed dramatically. I was then a pilot with the New Zealand National Airways Corporation, and one evening, with a group of friends, I had a prolonged sighting of a UFO over the Manukau Harbour in Auckland, New Zealand. The object carried out manoeuvres that no known man-made vehicle could accomplish at that time. The thing, whatever it was, had an intensely brilliant white light with a smaller glowing red light some distance from it, and for about twenty minutes held me and the other witnesses spellbound as it went through a series of right-angle turns, then disappeared into a clear evening sky. Ever since then I have collected every bit of information available on the UFO phenomenon. During my thousands of hours of flying, I searched the skies constantly and have been rewarded with many other sightings. As time went on, I was informed by other airline pilots in New Zealand
Re: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program
-Caveat Lector- Can anybody stop these people before its too late? I wonder, are they trying to activate the world grid system with HAARP etc on Dec 31st from the Pyramid. Rocke(gaia) feller has hired the Kings Chamber for then from 2 years ago. Last I heard they were going to bring in a new era from that time.Some Solar Ceremony to be enacted there. Texe Marrs said it was to install Lucifer in some Freemason ceremony. Dave do you know if David Spangler and Jose Arguelles are in on this with Dan Winter. Dan did mention Montauk. Not looking good is it? They are playing with fire. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, 21 October 1999 22:06 Subject: [CTRL] The World Energy Grid Program -Caveat Lector- anybody read this lengthy but intriguing piece? How 'bout this part: "One of the most startling facts that I discovered by the application of grid mathematics was that an atomic bomb is a device based on the geometrics of space and time. To be successfully detonated, the bomb must be geometrically constructed, placed on, under or over a geometric position in relation to the Earth's surface, and activated at a specific time in relation to the geometrics of the solar system. I found that it was possible to precalculate the times of various bomb tests and the locations where it was possible to explode a bomb. When it became known that I had discovered this well-kept secret, I was offered a position by the American Central Intelligence Agency." Y'all may be interested to know that I've heard the same exact story from Dan Winter. http://www.danwinter.com/ Upon visiting his website recently, I'm moved to wonder if Dan is acquainted with the ADL DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
