Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-12 17:01:16 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who are they? I've been trying to find out who they are for years. The real question is, who owns or controls the banks and multinationals these guys work for, as corporate lawyers, investment bank reps, or "consultants" for the same? Follow the money. I think it's a matter of determining Where does the buck stop? Unfortunately, there's a snag. Especially in the area of PUBLIC records of ultimate ownership and controlling shares, the lawyers have seen to it that we face "Chinese boxes" -- individuals or "shell" groups named who are only fronting for other individuals or "shell" groups, who in turn may be proxies for other individuals or "shell" groups ... Outside the US where records are relatively public, it can be magnitudes harder to discover who ultimately owns what, or, divvying it up, who holds controlling shares. I believe it's safe to say that, even without our being able to name names, it all comes down to the super-rich, Old Money here and "blue blood" abroad, plus their underworld equivalents in the Mafia, CIA Octopus, and Odessa, with massive long-term communal assets which of course are "laundered" in the same washers used by the respectable. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-12 23:06:04 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The REAL controllers, or puppet-masters behind the throne are people you've never heard of (and, if things continue as they have, you never will). In fact one of them could be walking down the street outside your house right now. . . I sorta doubt it. All the rich and powerful I've ever been able to come close to don't walk (they're usually driven or flown) except in restricted areas, don't appear in public without security, and don't feel safe except in the rarefied "exclusive" company of their peers. I've met a Rothschild, and he was visibly horrified at being in the presence of a "prole." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/13/99 7:18:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The REAL controllers, or puppet-masters behind the throne are people you've never heard of (and, if things continue as they have, you never will). In fact one of them could be walking down the street outside your house right now. . . I sorta doubt it. All the rich and powerful I've ever been able to come close to don't walk (they're usually driven or flown) except in restricted areas, don't appear in public without security, and don't feel safe except in the rarefied "exclusive" company of their peers. I've met a Rothschild, and he was visibly horrified at being in the presence of a "prole." Of course I was TRYING to make a LAME joke, but you do bring up a good point about this group's aversion to people in general and their avoidance of same. Thus it might be a good idea to try and crosscheck references to the rich elite who are not now, or haven't been, seen for quite some time and that might give you a decent start. Maybe you would like to tell the short story to this list of your meeting with the Rothchild clan member, I find it TREMENDOUSLY AMUSING! I think others would also appreciate it. ** *** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-11 13:20:06 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you read about Bush and the rest you realize that theyare shilling for someone elses ideas. You will need to dig deeper than that. Even the top twenty of the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg Group are just "flunkies" for more powerful bosses, who would prefer their names never to be known. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-11 13:20:06 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you read about Bush and the rest you realize that theyare shilling for someone elses ideas. You will need to dig deeper than that. Even the top twenty of the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg Group are just "flunkies" for more powerful bosses, who would prefer their names never to be known. Who are they? I've benn trying to find out who they are for years. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-11 13:20:06 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you read about Bush and the rest you realize that theyare shilling for someone elses ideas. You will need to dig deeper than that. Even the top twenty of the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg Group are just "flunkies" for more powerful bosses, who would prefer their names never to be known. What was this idea that you gave that money is just to flaut the laws? *So, those that have money never work? Is that like those that have kids, let the kids do all the work? *If you have money then it is just one long party of drugs booze and sex? Sounds boring to me. I always thought that you should do things with it. Even Carigee helped build libaries. *Is your idea of Capitalism Clinton and Bush? or ??? other wise! -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/site_map.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/12/99 4:21:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you read about Bush and the rest you realize that theyare shilling for someone elses ideas. You will need to dig deeper than that. Even the top twenty of the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg Group are just "flunkies" for more powerful bosses, who would prefer their names never to be known. This is so true. I've said so for a long time. The REAL controllers, or puppet-masters behind the throne are people you've never heard of (and, if things continue as they have, you never will). In fact one of them could be walking down the street outside your house right now. . . ** *** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-11 04:58:22 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allegations that the Clinton administration authorized the FBI to use prostitutes first surfaced in INSIGHT magazine. Investigative journalist Tim Maier wrote that under-age male and female prostitutes were being used to obtain intelligence information from foreign diplomats during the December 1993 Asia Pacific Economic Conference (APEC) in Seattle Washington. Yet, the question of whether the Clinton administration used minors as prostitutes to obtain intelligence information on foreign diplomats remains open for debate. Federal officials also admitted that the use of under-age or untrained civilians in intelligence operations poses a significant risk and may be illegal under some circumstances. According to the same law enforcement officials, the information obtained is so important to U.S. national security that all necessary means, including prostitution, must be exploited to obtain it. ... The Clinton administration's use of such drastic means for a so-called "economic" conference has raised questions about state-sponsored commercial espionage. Is export money enough justification to use children as sex-slaves and spies? How naive can we be? In the underworld economy of espionage and organized crime, which are almost indistinguishable, the primary currencies used are not ONLY "illegal drugs" and "black-market weapons." Just as valuable as either is SEX -- but, especially when sex is routine and cheap, for "sex" to have ANY value as a currency, it MUST be "taboo" sex, forbidden by law or just by normal (public) moral standards -- a kind of rare "delicacy," obtainable only by the the ultra-rich or the ultra-privileged, for whom being able to push the envelope of the "permissible" to the EXTREME is an essential definer of "elite" status. (Power isn't really "power" unless one is free --FREE-- to ABUSE it.) In more Victorian times, the "buzz" used to be homosexuality. Today it's pedophilia. OF COURSE it's not only immoral but ILLEGAL The flip side of POWER is its RISK -- so one is never welcomed into the circle of the powerful except by double-edged gifts which can, if PUBLICLY revealed, DESTROY one. "Secret societies" are "secret" for a good practical reason. Shared GUILT is a strong BOND and GUARANTEES silence. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 11 Nov 99, at 6:50, Das GOAT wrote: .. The Clinton administration's use of such drastic means for a so-called "economic" conference has raised questions about state-sponsored commercial espionage. Is export money enough justification to use children as sex-slaves and spies? How naive can we be? In the underworld economy of espionage and organized crime, which are almost indistinguishable, the primary currencies used are not ONLY "illegal drugs" and "black-market weapons." Just as valuable as either is SEX -- but, especially when sex is routine and cheap, for "sex" to have ANY value as a currency, it MUST be "taboo" sex, forbidden by law or just by normal (public) moral standards -- a kind of rare "delicacy," obtainable only by the the ultra-rich or the ultra-privileged, for whom being able to push the envelope of the "permissible" to the EXTREME is an essential definer of "elite" status. (Power isn't really "power" unless one is free --FREE-- to ABUSE it.) In more Victorian times, the "buzz" used to be homosexuality. Today it's pedophilia. OF COURSE it's not only immoral but ILLEGAL The flip side of POWER is its RISK -- so one is never welcomed into the circle of the powerful except by double-edged gifts which can, if PUBLICLY revealed, DESTROY one. "Secret societies" are "secret" for a good practical reason. Shared GUILT is a strong BOND and GUARANTEES silence. Wouldn't it be interesting if Clinton got to take the fall for thiswhich has been going on for decades, certainly through the two previous Republican administrations --if not forever. I have always thought that, in the larger picture, Clinton was a patsy--like Oswald--intended to take the blame for all the illegalities and pecadillos of Bush et al., allowing them to come back into the arena later looking clean. And, if this is true, you have to give him some credit for his ability to duck and cover. When he came into office, Clinton looked like a healthy young man. The pictures I see of him lately, he looks positively ashen and almost aged. In only a decade? Mind you, I'm not condoning these activities (which are horrendous), but Clinton certainly didn't invent them. Hoover might have gotten them from Caesar, Nero, or Calligula. And Bush certainly used them during the Regan era. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/11/1999 9:12:00 AM CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mind you, I'm not condoning these activities (which are horrendous), but Clinton certainly didn't invent them. Hoover might have gotten them from Caesar, Nero, or Calligula. And Bush certainly used them during the Regan era. Clinton certainly did not invent them. I suspect he isn't a patsy, though, mostly because of Yugoslavia. An acquaintance told me long ago that you just don't get to be Prez anymore unless you're part of the Big Game. I suspect she's right. Samantha DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-11 04:58:22 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allegations that the Clinton administration authorized the FBI to use prostitutes first surfaced in INSIGHT magazine. Investigative journalist Tim Maier wrote that under-age male and female prostitutes were being used to obtain intelligence information from foreign diplomats during the December 1993 Asia Pacific Economic Conference (APEC) in Seattle Washington. Yet, the question of whether the Clinton administration used minors as prostitutes to obtain intelligence information on foreign diplomats remains open for debate. Federal officials also admitted that the use of under-age or untrained civilians in intelligence operations poses a significant risk and may be illegal under some circumstances. According to the same law enforcement officials, the information obtained is so important to U.S. national security that all necessary means, including prostitution, must be exploited to obtain it. ... The Clinton administration's use of such drastic means for a so-called "economic" conference has raised questions about state-sponsored commercial espionage. Is export money enough justification to use children as sex-slaves and spies? Subject: Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:50:16 EST From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] How naive can we be? In the underworld economy of espionage and organized crime, which are almost indistinguishable, the primary currencies used are not ONLY "illegal drugs" and "black-market weapons." Just as valuable as either is SEX -- but, especially when sex is routine and cheap, for "sex" to have ANY value as a currency, it MUST be "taboo" sex, forbidden by law or just by normal (public) moral standards -- a kind of rare "delicacy," obtainable only by the the ultra-rich or the ultra-privileged, for whom being able to push the envelope of the "permissible" to the EXTREME is an essential definer of "elite" status. (Power isn't really "power" unless one is free --FREE-- to ABUSE it.) In more Victorian times, the "buzz" used to be homosexuality. Today it's pedophilia. OF COURSE it's not only immoral but ILLEGAL The flip side of POWER is its RISK -- so one is never welcomed into the circle of the powerful except by double-edged gifts which can, if PUBLICLY revealed, DESTROY one. "Secret societies" are "secret" for a good practical reason. Shared GUILT is a strong BOND and GUARANTEES silence. Om I take exception to this idea! This is what some are trying to say of Capitalism (example: Bill Gates and Ross Perot) I do not consider Clinton a example of anything but SUB Human He is not Satanic (they "seem to" normally study and have more elaborate rites to joining than just raping nationalities or sadism or cannibalism. I always heard that you actually had to have a usable brain of your own. So, are you implying that the end all of money and power is to be able to flout the rules and laws? If this idea has gotten as far as people like you then I guess America is lost! Laura Lee Lanning-Shipton aka The Pied Piper p.s. that is one tune that I will not play... -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/site_map.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscri
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 11 Nov 99, at 6:50, Das GOAT wrote: .. The Clinton administration's use of such drastic means for a so-called "economic" conference has raised questions about state-sponsored commercial espionage. Is export money enough justification to use children as sex-slaves and spies? How naive can we be? In the underworld economy of espionage and organized crime, which are almost indistinguishable, the primary currencies used are not ONLY "illegal drugs" and "black-market weapons." Just as valuable as either is SEX -- but, especially when sex is routine and cheap, for "sex" to have ANY value as a currency, it MUST be "taboo" sex, forbidden by law or just by normal (public) moral standards -- a kind of rare "delicacy," obtainable only by the the ultra-rich or the ultra-privileged, for whom being able to push the envelope of the "permissible" to the EXTREME is an essential definer of "elite" status. (Power isn't really "power" unless one is free --FREE-- to ABUSE it.) In more Victorian times, the "buzz" used to be homosexuality. Today it's pedophilia. OF COURSE it's not only immoral but ILLEGAL The flip side of POWER is its RISK -- so one is never welcomed into the circle of the powerful except by double-edged gifts which can, if PUBLICLY revealed, DESTROY one. "Secret societies" are "secret" for a good practical reason. Shared GUILT is a strong BOND and GUARANTEES silence. Wouldn't it be interesting if Clinton got to take the fall for thiswhich has been going on for decades, certainly through the two previous Republican administrations --if not forever. I have always thought that, in the larger picture, Clinton was a patsy--like Oswald--intended to take the blame for all the illegalities and pecadillos of Bush et al., allowing them to come back into the arena later looking clean. And, if this is true, you have to give him some credit for his ability to duck and cover. When he came into office, Clinton looked like a healthy young man. The pictures I see of him lately, he looks positively ashen and almost aged. In only a decade? Mind you, I'm not condoning these activities (which are horrendous), but Clinton certainly didn't invent them. Hoover might have gotten them from Caesar, Nero, or Calligula. And Bush certainly used them during the Regan era. sno0wl If you read about Bush and the rest you realize that theyare shilling for someone elses ideas. You will need to dig deeper than that. Piper -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/site_map.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/11/1999 10:12:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have always thought that, in the larger picture, Clinton was a patsy--like Oswald--intended to take the blame for all the illegalities and pecadillos of Bush et al., allowing them to come back into the arena later looking clean. And, if this is true, you have to give him some credit for his ability to duck and cover. When he came into office, Clinton looked like a healthy young man. The pictures I see of him lately, he looks positively ashen and almost aged. In only a decade? Mind you, I'm not condoning these activities (which are horrendous), but Clinton certainly didn't invent them. Hoover might have gotten them from Caesar, Nero, or Calligula. And Bush certainly used them during the Regan era. My goodness, Owl, it's good to know somebody can see through the smoke. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
