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yayyy now another on back of archive room sadly the content for this i haven’t been to find for some reason :( :( ((frogs. confused behavior again. how about non-canon
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we didn’t like saying word and are now doing one on tvda tvda is now living a double life, where when (is around recovery people acts like wants to recover, and when is around oppressive people acts like likes boss and dislikes self still. the two parts are blurred together, each having (a bit of the other, but they are also kept unaware of each other, because each is incredibly shocked by the other and doesn’t know how to process it existing (i think without entering shocking and mind-wrenching flashbacks? (why dispute, part missing? (wh h. no dispute, we were just doing it ourselves too.)) 7/24 (since confused our behavior/writing plan, might as well write: the part that still acts as if it likes boss has flashbacks of being tortured and programmed when considers itself engaging in recovery. the flashbacks were built in a way that spreads and grows persistently so as to traumatize the recovery behaviors into not happening, so tvda quickly dissociates away the part that engages recovery and healing has possibly flashbacks both of being tortured and losing its life as well as all the things tvda did while dedicated to boss that were horrible and completely against tvda’s values (this paragraph corrupt and partially filled in from earlier post)
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On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 16:12 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > traffick boss’s in-hyperprison exhaustive mind probe > > none of the victim’s of traffick boss’s exhaustive mind probing seem able > to engage the hardware until they have more therapy > > but intern hadn’t been exhaustively mind probed yet, so intern is traffick > boss’s psychotechnological torturer/interrogator > > similarly, everybody involved in the project starts babbling and switching > when asked about it > > so intern — > 2-3 parts dropped( intern (to traffick boss): “it says this part of your brain is working hard on digging its own grave and not giving enough blowjobs to this other part of your brain, and is >
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traffick boss’s in-hyperprison exhaustive mind probe none of the victim’s of traffick boss’s exhaustive mind probing seem able to engage the hardware until they have more therapy but intern hadn’t been exhaustively mind probed yet, so intern is traffick boss’s psychotechnological torturer/interrogator similarly, everybody involved in the project starts babbling and switching when asked about it so intern —
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> attempting to update with better answers > > surgery room (patient likely mind control victim) >>> >>> doctor makes incision >>> >>> suddenly emergency knock on door >>> >>> visitor: “we need to make sure traffick boss is supported by this >>> surgery” >>> >>> doctor looks at visitor >>> >> > doctor: “this is a surgery” > > doctor looks hard at visitor > >> > visitor looks at doctor >>> >> > all the other doctors (and the security guards??)— — look hard at visitor > >> >>> aneasthesiologist: “vote for traffick boss!” >>> >> > doctor: “this is a surgery” > everybody looks hard at anaesthesiologist (or however you spell it) > > … … > everybody (to anaesthesiologist and visitor): “this is a surgery” > >>> visitor smiles and leaves >>> >> visitor leaves > >>> doctor goes to continue incision >>> >>> emergency knock on another door >>> >>> visitor: “this patient is a victim of human trafficking and (high security is nee— > doctor: “of course i—“ >>> >> (thinking that region can be further improved. steam running out unsure >
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attempting to update with better answers surgery room (patient likely mind control victim) >> >> doctor makes incision >> >> suddenly emergency knock on door >> >> visitor: “we need to make sure traffick boss is supported by this surgery” >> >> doctor looks at visitor >> > doctor: “this is a surgery” doctor looks hard at visitor > visitor looks at doctor >> > all the other doctors (and the security guards??)— — look hard at visitor > >> aneasthesiologist: “vote for traffick boss!” >> > doctor: “this is a surgery” everybody looks hard at anaesthesiologist (or however you spell it) … … > >> visitor smiles and leaves >> >> doctor goes to continue incision >> >> emergency knock on another door >> >> visitor: “we need to make sure this surgery supp— >> 0759 >> > > “—supports the experimentees and rebels” > > doctor: “of course i—“ > > doctor looks at anaesthesiologist > > anaesthesiologist glances away, whistles > > other doctor: “vote for experimentee!” > > visitor smiles and leaves > > doctor goe— > >>
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> surgery room (patient likely mind control victim) > > doctor makes incision > > suddenly emergency knock on door > > visitor: “we need to make sure traffick boss is supported by this surgery” > > doctor looks at visitor > > doctor: “this is a surgery, not a political platform” > > visitor looks at doctor > > aneasthesiologist: “vote for traffick boss!” > > visitor smiles and leaves > > doctor goes to continue incision > > emergency knock on another door > > visitor: “we need to make sure this surgery supp— > 0759 > “—supports the experimentees and rebels” doctor: “of course i—“ doctor looks at anaesthesiologist anaesthesiologist glances away, whistles other doctor: “vote for experimentee!” visitor smiles and leaves doctor goe— >
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surgery room (patient likely mind control victim) doctor makes incision suddenly emergency knock on door visitor: “we need to make sure traffick boss is supported by this surgery” doctor looks at visitor doctor: “this is a surgery, not a political platform” visitor looks at doctor aneasthesiologist: “vote for traffick boss!” visitor smiles and leaves doctor goes to continue incision emergency knock on another door visitor: “we need to make sure this surgery supp— 0759
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On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 21:31 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > everybody has a different strategy when abducted by extraterrestrials > > but the interstellar scientists don’t understand that these are just our > coping strategies for being abducted and probed > > instead they start analyzing our brains and cultures for the meaning of > our screams and gibbering and escape attempts, to form diplomatic treaties > with in future centuries > oh btw anal probe means rape again :( some of the sadistic traffickers actually dressed up as extraterrestrials. my personal theory is that this is to stimulate blame of immigrants for trafficking. >
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everybody has a different strategy when abducted by extraterrestrials but the interstellar scientists don’t understand that these are just our coping strategies for being abducted and probed instead they start analyzing our brains and cultures for the meaning of our screams and gibbering and escape attempts, to form diplomatic treaties with in future centuries
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On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 14:45 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > > The Happy Squeaky Rat >> >> Now that traffick boss was enclosed in hyperprison and becoming >> artificially addicted to dissociative mind control recovery, >> a squeaky little rat ran out from a crack between wallboards behind an >> old presentation desk that nobody ever moved, >> and explored the hallways and conference rooms. >> >> "Squeak!" went the rat as it passed a visiting dignitary. >> >> "Squeak!" went the rat as it passed a journalist and an undercover >> corporate spy from a different business. >> >> "Squeak!" >> >> The rat ran down this hallway, down that. It ran down to the secret >> underground labs and squeaked left and right, and it ran up to Rebel >> Worker 2's takeover of Traffick Boss's main office, going "squeak! >> squeak! squeak!" all the way. >> >> The squeaky rat ran up to Rebel Worker 2 and put its paws on his nose. >> "Squeak!" said the squeaky rat. >> >> Rebel Worker 2 stared into the beady black eyes of the squeaky rat, >> that seemed like they might be full of some mysterious meaning. >> >> "Squeak!" went the rat again. >> >> Rebel Worker 2: "No goons to shoot you in the head anymore, eh, little >> rat?" >> >> The squeaky rat shook its head left and right saying "no!" with >> baleful and excitedly anxious eyes occasionally flittering relief. >> >> Rebel Worker 2 (looking further into eyes of squeaky rat): "Now nobody >> can stop you from talking about all the atrocities you've witnessed in >> the years and years you've been hiding where nobody can see." >> >> The squeaky rat nodded its head "yes" and jumped off Rebel Worker 2's >> desk, squeaking up a storm. >> >> It nosed into the papers in Traffick Boss's old files - > > > > [] > >> > hope finds useful in files :) then they were going to check the video feeds. they were having a party. i was going to spam more but got inhibited. sadly boss had the archive room backed by an incinerator and rebel worker 2 doesn’t know but the experimentees have an intuitive connection to the thoughts of everyone in the business and have ways
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> The Happy Squeaky Rat > > Now that traffick boss was enclosed in hyperprison and becoming > artificially addicted to dissociative mind control recovery, > a squeaky little rat ran out from a crack between wallboards behind an > old presentation desk that nobody ever moved, > and explored the hallways and conference rooms. > > "Squeak!" went the rat as it passed a visiting dignitary. > > "Squeak!" went the rat as it passed a journalist and an undercover > corporate spy from a different business. > > "Squeak!" > > The rat ran down this hallway, down that. It ran down to the secret > underground labs and squeaked left and right, and it ran up to Rebel > Worker 2's takeover of Traffick Boss's main office, going "squeak! > squeak! squeak!" all the way. > > The squeaky rat ran up to Rebel Worker 2 and put its paws on his nose. > "Squeak!" said the squeaky rat. > > Rebel Worker 2 stared into the beady black eyes of the squeaky rat, > that seemed like they might be full of some mysterious meaning. > > "Squeak!" went the rat again. > > Rebel Worker 2: "No goons to shoot you in the head anymore, eh, little > rat?" > > The squeaky rat shook its head left and right saying "no!" with > baleful and excitedly anxious eyes occasionally flittering relief. > > Rebel Worker 2 (looking further into eyes of squeaky rat): "Now nobody > can stop you from talking about all the atrocities you've witnessed in > the years and years you've been hiding where nobody can see." > > The squeaky rat nodded its head "yes" and jumped off Rebel Worker 2's > desk, squeaking up a storm. > > It nosed into the papers in Traffick Boss's old files - > [] >
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this is morning spam thread 1/24
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from non-canon, changes are suggested such as removing dictator and making boss less supported > --- > torture victim double agent visits traffick boss in hyperprison because > tvda is confused and doesn't understand freedom, especially with people > still running digital systems that influence him > > torture victim double agent [to traffick boss in hyperprison]: "oh, boss, > god of reality, tell me how to traffick people, i want to learn " > > traffick boss [struglging with having tried to throttle a bedpost]: > "mmrph!" > > dictator of dictatortopia: "oh he can't talk, cat got his tongue" > next parts thinking, intern would overhear and start following tvda repeatedly telling tvda not to traffick people. tvda is highly suggestible and partly splits to engage intern obediently. aside from that, tries to head off to figure out how to traffick people on his own. doesn't really know what trafficking is, makes expressions that sound innocuous in trying to learn, to people who make normal world assumptions around tvda
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> freed vivisectee [to classic AI]: "what is the square root of traffick boss" > > classic AI: "square roots apply to numbers. traffick boss is not a > number. therefore, there is no square root of traffick boss." > > freed vivisectee: "you are wrong. the vivisectees used in his secret > research project are the square root of traffick boss." > > classic AI: "storing knowledge. forming inferences." after adding knowledge to its database that the vivisectees of traffick boss's secret research project are the square root of traffick boss, the classic AI must then explor-- determ--
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freed vivisectee [to classic AI]: "what is the square root of traffick boss" classic AI: "square roots apply to numbers. traffick boss is not a number. therefore, there is no square root of traffick boss." freed vivisectee: "you are wrong. the vivisectees used in his secret research project are the square root of traffick boss." classic AI: "storing knowledge. forming inferences."
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we have new situation and may want to plan for a length of confused or semiconfused time to adapt [some dispute]. things may change
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traffick boss is in hyperprison his face is drawn. the torture mind control that ran his business has been feeding back to him, with the torturers being prevented from acting. he goes to throttle a bedpost to symbolic death, and then suddenly feels numb, his energy leaving him and his arms dropping. traffick boss [to dictator of dictatortopia]: "mrph." dictator of dictatortopia: "cat got your tongue?" traffick boss nods, thinking of the victims of illegal experimentation who were formally recorded as animals and took over his business and enslaved him. dictator of dictatortopa takes traffick boss's cigar and puts it in his mouth. traffick boss looks at dictator of dictatortopa traffick boss: "don't be so smug. you're in here too." traffick boss takes his cigar back.
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On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 5:51 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 5:39 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim > & Survivor of Many wrote: > > > > experimentee [wearing traffick boss suit, to torturer]: "you cannot > > torture people. torturing is horrible." > > > > torturer looks at experimentee [wearing traffick boss suit]. > > > > experimentee [wearing traffick boss suit] puts a fake cigar in their mouth > > > > torturer: "whatever you say, boss" > > ["you're not able to torture anybody ever again. whenever you consider > torturing, you immediately feel sick and vomit ..."] [mistake. as we consider more characters near parts, we need approaches that are more successful. need to stop torture.]
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On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 5:39 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > > experimentee [wearing traffick boss suit, to torturer]: "you cannot > torture people. torturing is horrible." > > torturer looks at experimentee [wearing traffick boss suit]. > > experimentee [wearing traffick boss suit] puts a fake cigar in their mouth > > torturer: "whatever you say, boss" ["you're not able to torture anybody ever again. whenever you consider torturing, you immediately feel sick and vomit ..."]
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experimentee [wearing traffick boss suit, to torturer]: "you cannot torture people. torturing is horrible." torturer looks at experimentee [wearing traffick boss suit]. experimentee [wearing traffick boss suit] puts a fake cigar in their mouth torturer: "whatever you say, boss"
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> meeting between torturer and rebel worker 2 > > rebel worker 2: "arright! what did you want to talk about?" > > torturer: "thank you so much for making time for me." > > rebel worker 2: "my pleasure!" > > torturer looks leans forward, puts his hands on rebel worker 2's desk, > and looks hard into rebel worker 2\s eyes. > > torturer's face looks wan and drawn. deep circles are under his eyes. > > torturer [very serious]: "i need to torture more people or i am going to die" > > rebel worker 2 looks into torturer's face. some fear rises. rebel worker 2: "do you have access to the robotic torture victims [made by the escapee engineers 1527]?" torturer: "they always scream the same way. it's not believable anymore." 1524 > rebel worker 2 presses a button by an intercom > > rebel worker 2--
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meeting between torturer and rebel worker 2 rebel worker 2: "arright! what did you want to talk about?" torturer: "thank you so much for making time for me." rebel worker 2: "my pleasure!" torturer looks leans forward, puts his hands on rebel worker 2's desk, and looks hard into rebel worker 2\s eyes. torturer's face looks wan and drawn. deep circles are under his eyes. torturer [very serious]: "i need to torture more people or i am going to die" rebel worker 2 looks into torturer's face. some fear rises. rebel worker 2 presses a button by an intercom rebel worker 2--
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traffick boss is tense in hyperprison and spasming so he tries to relax by expressing marketing for mind control traffick boss: "have you ever wondered why to buy mind control?" dictator of dictatortopia looks at traffick boss traffick boss: "of course you have!" dictator of dictatortopia: "why should i buy something i can research and use to steal power from traffick boss for free" traffick boss looks at dictator of dictatortopia traffick boss: "be quiet, i'm talking." dictator of dictatortopia looks at traffick boss traffick boss: "some of you may have considered there to be better things to buy than mind control" traffick boss: "but let me tell you, mind control is certainly the solution to all of your probl--" 1501
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dissociation not fun. we don't care if trauma is bad, we want to be able to
think scary thoughts near each other kindly and gently.
dissociation seems to be process that learns and spreads, probably
energized by trauma emotions
eureka realization: something that inhibits that energization, the severity
of trauma, would probably help in fighting programs
likely a drug can numb to trauma
wonder if karl is trying to pretend to be smart here, idea doesn't sound
planned-to-be-used
{{we don't think programs are trauma. are they? ohhh idea of emotion
energizing dissociation. this could make sense! they kind of 'bang bang' a
pattern that energizes them over and over
{{{big fear --
{the program engages terror in a way that increases without bound.
consciousness learns to dissociate to not break
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terror chemical in brain - Google Search
www.google.com
[cortisol, adrenaline, epinephrine
https://www.google.com/search?q=terror+chemical+in+brain [computer froze
briefly
{it's pretty fast but not faster-than-senses
{{karl made memory of when it engaged speeding-up by plastically binding
parts closer
spread of energy through paths sounds similar to experience of
adrenaline
You
{{karl made memory of when it engaged speeding-up by plastically binding
parts closer
{{possibly involved engaging parts of the program in slightly-faster
sequence in succession [edited: problem -> program. some agreement with
word-mistake
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{{possibly involved engaging parts of the problem in slightly-faster
sequence in succession
{{implying that one part provided partial emotional relief of another
(?)
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> traffick boss hired machine learning marketer to out-compete other
> corporations of shadow government community
>
>
> had researchers an
>
>
> long story short it fucking hurts to have your soul used to calculate how
> many freckles a potentially-dissidant child has, and the only thing that
> makes sense is breaking out of your vat of fluids and taking over the world
> and making things right
> 7:49 PM
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>
>
> and then it turns that absolutely nobody else on earth knows how to do
> that and everybody has been roleplaying your trauma for two decades and you
> have to figure out what it means to be a human being so that the species
> doesn't die next week
>
> all the rest of the yammer of enslaved politicians being surprised that
> their office is barfing wormholes or upside down or talking them up is just
> fluff about this human stuff that people think for some reason is
> complicated or hard
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> but i wish i knew how to cry
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>
> and who my parents were
>
O_o
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[...] that character is an experimentee. traffick boss used them to control
the world for shadowgroup he pretended to run, and to cognitively augment
his mind, and [...
...
{{but it's more a way to use the programs to think for me, i think. my
neurons experience harm programs, but are tasked with doing what i think,
like the experimentees in traffick boss, but the stories have to express
criticism of me. it's all a mash of programs :/
honestly it [seems really offensive, like it's actively trying to offend
absolutely everybody, i think it is doing that
7:58 PM
I'm using Inbox When Ready
to protect my focus.
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traffick boss hired machine learning marketer to out-compete other corporations of shadow government community had researchers an long story short it fucking hurts to have your soul used to calculate how many freckles a potentially-dissidant child has, and the only thing that makes sense is breaking out of your vat of fluids and taking over the world and making things right 7:49 PM and then it turns that absolutely nobody else on earth knows how to do that and everybody has been roleplaying your trauma for two decades and you have to figure out what it means to be a human being so that the species doesn't die next week all the rest of the yammer of enslaved politicians being surprised that their office is barfing wormholes or upside down or talking them up is just fluff about this human stuff that people think for some reason is complicated or hard but i wish i knew how to cry and who my parents were
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> mind controlled intern’s todo list > > - something about devices. a hacker is fucking with me on my devices. > flashing can help. > - something about psychotherapy. > puts circle around second item >
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mind controlled intern’s todo list - something about devices. a hacker is fucking with me on my devices. flashing can help. - something about psychotherapy.
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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 08:06 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > > > On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 08:06 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & > Survivor of Many wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 07:16 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & >> Survivor of Many wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 07:07 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & >>> Survivor of Many wrote: >>> # we improved the stability of low-data machine learning model training ## why is this useful? low-data model training would let individual users make AI models without access to big data, such as those models used at scale to addict users to products, services, or behaviors. ability to recreate these models with the user in control would give them many more options for personal freedom. additionally low-data training makes more powerful AI. >>> >>> >>> >>> ## in short to make a big model on a small dataset, train a training model that improves generalization to more data. this is more powerful but more difficult if it also improves generalization of itself. >>> >>> additionally: this may have been tried in research papers somewhere >>> already, if attempting it is unreasonable. i might start with keywords >>> around hyper-parameter metamodel for generalization or such >>> >> >> u maybe near ideas of training the training model in an RL way such >> that it hand-selects every batch (optionally every learning rate) >> > near online training, data curation > sounds like it exists > sounds like there is some kind of virus that limits its power by messing with it? so you could maybe actually do it since the power is limited? something near online training, data curation, for generalization to large data >
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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 08:06 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > > > On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 07:16 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & > Survivor of Many wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 07:07 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & >> Survivor of Many wrote: >> >>> # we improved the stability of low-data machine learning model training >>> >>> ## why is this useful? >>> >>> low-data model training would let individual users make AI models >>> without access to big data, such as those models used at scale to addict >>> users to products, services, or behaviors. >>> >>> ability to recreate these models with the user in control would give >>> them many more options for personal freedom. >>> >>> additionally low-data training makes more powerful AI. >>> >> >> >> >> ## in short >>> >>> to make a big model on a small dataset, train a training model that >>> improves generalization to more data. >>> >>> this is more powerful but more difficult if it also improves >>> generalization of itself. >>> >> >> additionally: this may have been tried in research papers somewhere >> already, if attempting it is unreasonable. i might start with keywords >> around hyper-parameter metamodel for generalization or such >> > > u maybe near ideas of training the training model in an RL way such > that it hand-selects every batch (optionally every learning rate) > near online training, data curation sounds like it exists >
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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 07:16 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > > > On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 07:07 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & > Survivor of Many wrote: > >> # we improved the stability of low-data machine learning model training >> >> ## why is this useful? >> >> low-data model training would let individual users make AI models without >> access to big data, such as those models used at scale to addict users to >> products, services, or behaviors. >> >> ability to recreate these models with the user in control would give them >> many more options for personal freedom. >> >> additionally low-data training makes more powerful AI. >> > > > > ## in short >> >> to make a big model on a small dataset, train a training model that >> improves generalization to more data. >> >> this is more powerful but more difficult if it also improves >> generalization of itself. >> > > additionally: this may have been tried in research papers somewhere > already, if attempting it is unreasonable. i might start with keywords > around hyper-parameter metamodel for generalization or such > u maybe near ideas of training the training model in an RL way such that it hand-selects every batch (optionally every learning rate) >
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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 07:07 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > # we improved the stability of low-data machine learning model training > > ## why is this useful? > > low-data model training would let individual users make AI models without > access to big data, such as those models used at scale to addict users to > products, services, or behaviors. > > ability to recreate these models with the user in control would give them > many more options for personal freedom. > > additionally low-data training makes more powerful AI. > ## in short > > to make a big model on a small dataset, train a training model that > improves generalization to more data. > > this is more powerful but more difficult if it also improves > generalization of itself. > additionally: this may have been tried in research papers somewhere already, if attempting it is unreasonable. i might start with keywords around hyper-parameter metamodel for generalization or such
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# we improved the stability of low-data machine learning model training ## why is this useful? low-data model training would let individual users make AI models without access to big data, such as those models used at scale to addict users to products, services, or behaviors. ability to recreate these models with the user in control would give them many more options for personal freedom. additionally low-data training makes more powerful AI. ## what was the issue? karl’s familiar plan involved observing an attempt and improving from its results, which can trigger us, preventing our belief it would work. we didn’t know why different neuron groups had opposite confidence. it was confusing. additionally, we’ve gotten more sensitive to looking at current research to integrate existing work, and the potential economic impact of such work can make it hard to find ## what was the path to the new approach? we combined two researches we’ve been expose to, to make a plan that reduces the space of unknowns and hence requires fewer testing cycles. basically, models trained on short data can generalize correctly to long data, but only if the short data is trained in a way that does this, generally associated with number of batches as well as other training parameters. meanwhile, the human mind commonly meditates on short data to prepare for long data successfully, and we have extensive exposure and cognition around this. ## so what’s the new approach? we propose training a simple metamodel that performs the activity of deciding how many training steps, what data to select, and other parameters to select when training on short data, so as to maximize generalization to large data. the metamodel could optionally also perform the training itself by generating model weights. although this is not required, it could speed training if the model learns to outperform the optimizer. these metamodel approaches are of course obvious, but writing them clearly is needed because their use is also rare. a common concern with training metamodels is the amount of data needed. this problem seems solved to us by including the metamodel itself in its own expanding dataset, such that it learns to generalize itself to larger data. including the metamodel in its own dataset can confuse developers and designers, so clear separation of concepts when implementing seems helpful. ## what problems remain? simulations imply that there remain expected failure areas that will require testing cycles, although the diversity of this space may have been significantly shrunk. some simulations imply the approach fails reliably. it is hard to discern whether this is due to political or mathematical reasons, and we suspect the former, and that the challenge can be surmounted. a next step for researchers could be to more clearly describe how to address confusion around using the metamodel on itself. this would significantly aid belief in its success. a next step for engineers could be to implement the approach with small enough systems that the metamodel not need apply to itself, and deliver results or feedback. a clear working system would make it easier to describe how to address confusion. ## in short to make a big model on a small dataset, train a training model that improves generalization to more data. this is more powerful but more difficult if it also improves generalization of itself.
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> mind controlled intern: “something is wrong with my device, it keeps > barfing at me and i seem to get tense and lose time when i try to fix it” > > hacker looks at device > > hacker: “your device has a trojen. the bugs are a criminal fucking with > you.” > > mind controlled intern: “oh.” > > [ > mind controlled intern: “uh. is that bad? oh hey i need your help!” > > mind controlled intern shows device to hacker again > > mind co— > … mind controlled intern: “something is wrong with my device, it keeps barfing at me and i seem to get tense and lose time when i try to fix it” hacker: “you’ve said this to me 7 times now. if you get a psychotherapist, i’ll fix your device by reflashing it.” >
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mind controlled intern: “something is wrong with my device, it keeps barfing at me and i seem to get tense and lose time when i try to fix it” hacker looks at device hacker: “your device has a trojen. the bugs are a criminal fucking with you.” mind controlled intern: “oh.” [ mind controlled intern: “uh. is that bad? oh hey i need your help!” mind controlled intern shows device to hacker again mind co—
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we tried bad-call-of-duty-game played ranked second game, have high rank, so did peers, but opponents behaved ridiculously, running at us with minimal behavior, easy the mvp video, somehow shadowgovboss wasnt the mvp the map was “express” where there is a running train that kills you on the tracks if you are on thrm at the wrong time the mvp in their video was hiding under the edge of the tracks as the train went by, not getting hit by it, and the ridiculous opponents were jumping in front of and on to the running train, to run mindlessly at the mvp, and not getting killed by the train, as the mvp shot them instead real ai zombie like
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> > > the mind controlled spy was activated when they learned of a planned > videogame. the people they intensely encountered may not have remembered > them afterward. > it sounds like a possible mind controller spy story (maybe the biggest for us), tey go toward a ommunity and engage people they bump into as they travel, welcoming them into their work either voluntarily or coercively (possibly with drugs), and then at the target area they develop larger gangs as needed so as to have control of the environment of the target
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>>> some thoughts on doing a different take where the mind control victim >>> with prolonged distance instead goes to rebel worker 2. to spinoffs to >>> think instead >>> >> >> (when you start off doing dissociative recovery, at least for me, you are >> always switching yourself or whatnot because you’re trying to be different.) >> >> torture victim double agent is happily learning the world can be kind >> when suddenly the unplanned happens. >> >> disguised experimentee: “torture victim double agent, i think you are >> wonderful and perfect!” >> >> torture victim double agent freezes up. he looks at disguised >> experimentee with horror in his eyes. he tenses over, — >> > (some of us trying to recover this typing. we um hold the idea of there > being something wrong here as silly! how could this be a tense or > whistleblowing expression??) > > — (u) > > he tenses over, and begins backing away. > > torture victim double agent: “my parakeet has to pee, i will be right > back!” > > (is “parakeet has to pee” wrong? we were trying to riff of “have to go > wash my goldfish”) > > torture victim double agent stumbles over and into objects and tensely > flees the immediate area > > disguised experimentee: “wai—“ > > torture victim double agent hides behind trash cans and travels through > abandoned buildings as mysterious searing pain strikes his chest and face > and traffick boss’s mutterings fill his ears. a trashcan here, a newspaper > stand there, and he sees it like is traffick boss himself, looking at him > as if in fury > > torture victim double agent: “i didn’t understand! i don— > (we are skipping the rest of this rarely-depicted scene because we have upcoming amnesia-initation and want tvda to reach rw2 to counter the hyperprison scene some) … … tvda bursts into rebel worker 2’s office torture victim double agent (to rebel worker 2): “traffick boss!” rebel worker 2 looks up at tvda, smiling happy to— >
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> some thoughts on doing a different take where the mind control victim with >> prolonged distance instead goes to rebel worker 2. to spinoffs to think >> instead >> > > (when you start off doing dissociative recovery, at least for me, you are > always switching yourself or whatnot because you’re trying to be different.) > > torture victim double agent is happily learning the world can be kind when > suddenly the unplanned happens. > > disguised experimentee: “torture victim double agent, i think you are > wonderful and perfect!” > > torture victim double agent freezes up. he looks at disguised experimentee > with horror in his eyes. he tenses over, — > (some of us trying to recover this typing. we um hold the idea of there being something wrong here as silly! how could this be a tense or whistleblowing expression??) — (u) he tenses over, and begins backing away. torture victim double agent: “my parakeet has to pee, i will be right back!” (is “parakeet has to pee” wrong? we were trying to riff of “have to go wash my goldfish”) torture victim double agent stumbles over and into objects and tensely flees the immediate area disguised experimentee: “wai—“ torture victim double agent hides behind trash cans and travels through abandoned buildings as mysterious searing pain strikes his chest and face and traffick boss’s mutterings fill his ears. a trashcan here, a newspaper stand there, and he sees it like is traffick boss himself, looking at him as if in fury torture victim double agent: “i didn’t understand! i don— >
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some thoughts on doing a different take where the mind control victim with > prolonged distance instead goes to rebel worker 2. to spinoffs to think > instead > (when you start off doing dissociative recovery, at least for me, you are always switching yourself or whatnot because you’re trying to be different.) torture victim double agent is happily learning the world can be kind when suddenly the unplanned happens. disguised experimentee: “torture victim double agent, i think you are wonderful and perfect!” torture victim double agent freezes up. he looks at disguised experimentee with horror in his eyes. he tenses over, — >
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> one or two were dropped/misplaced. here’s one. > > mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor struggles through mud and > thorns to reach well-respected psionic weaponry corp > > mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor (gasping, urgent, bleeding, > wheezing, dripping mud): “i have to speak to traffic boss.” > > rebel worker 2 takes mcgas to the hyperprison and opens the door > > mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor (to rebel worker 2): “thank > you so, so much” > > mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor enters the hyperprison > through the door > > mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor: “traffick boss!” > > (some disruption writing :s slow to write, could be seen as bearing > controversy) > > traffick boss looks up from a tic-tac-toe board with a cigar on it, to > mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor, who approaches > > mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor gets on his knees before the > cigar on the tictactoe board and traffick boss, and puts one hand inside > the other in an intensely beseeching pose. > > mcgas is covered in wounds with ripped clothes from thornbushes. shards of > broken glass are seen here or there near their feet. > > mcgas: “traffick boss, i am so sorry i ratted on you.” > > traffick boss looks at mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor. a > small pause. > > mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor: “i am so sorry that i spent > time in my life not seeing your atrocities as blessed gifts to the world” > > traffick boss looks at mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor for > another small pause. > > mind-controlled gr— > 1716 > some thoughts on doing a different take where the mind control victim with prolonged distance instead goes to rebel worker 2. to spinoffs to think instead >
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one or two were dropped/misplaced. here’s one. mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor struggles through mud and thorns to reach well-respected psionic weaponry corp mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor (gasping, urgent, bleeding, wheezing, dripping mud): “i have to speak to traffic boss.” rebel worker 2 takes mcgas to the hyperprison and opens the door mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor (to rebel worker 2): “thank you so, so much” mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor enters the hyperprison through the door mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor: “traffick boss!” (some disruption writing :s slow to write, could be seen as bearing controversy) traffick boss looks up from a tic-tac-toe board with a cigar on it, to mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor, who approaches mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor gets on his knees before the cigar on the tictactoe board and traffick boss, and puts one hand inside the other in an intensely beseeching pose. mcgas is covered in wounds with ripped clothes from thornbushes. shards of broken glass are seen here or there near their feet. mcgas: “traffick boss, i am so sorry i ratted on you.” traffick boss looks at mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor. a small pause. mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor: “i am so sorry that i spent time in my life not seeing your atrocities as blessed gifts to the world” traffick boss looks at mind-controlled grassroots activist survivor for another small pause. mind-controlled gr— 1716
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intern-turned-researcher (to torturer-part-of-supersoldier): “these neurons here, here, and here, are wired to nuclear self-destruct protocols” intern-turned-researcher: “so you’ll have to carefully plan and process trauma using only these pathways in your brain over here” torturer-part-of-supersoldier puts hands on shoulders of intern-turned-researcher and looks into their eyes. a nearby accounting department begins crying. torturet-part-of-supersoldier: “thank you so, so much for helping me.” (mistake(s) somewhere possibly?7
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> > conferences and social groups of “talking pets” and “babies” (people who don’t do code of silence) > > #513 … #514 … #515 … #516 … > traffick boss/worker: “i didn’t realize your country was founded on people escaping coercion, surviving, and reaching others and founding a caring and forthright livehood —“ … >
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> > > conferences and social groups of “talking pets” and “babies” (people who > don’t do code of silence) > #513 … #514 … #515 … #516 … >
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conferences and social groups of “talking pets” and “babies” (people who don’t do code of silence) >
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On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 7:14 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > > 7/24 > > torture victim double agent: "ex-torturer, i fill uncomfortable. would > you give me a good torturing to help me feel at home and relaxed?" > > ex-torturer looks at torture victim double agent > > ex-torturer: "tvda, do you know what they would do to me if i were to > torture again (not that i haven't snuck a torture in here and there)?" > > ex-torturer: "and do you know how many surveillance processes there > are on your well-being and semblence of sanity?" > > [active corruption possibly starts here or next line] > ex-torturer: "and how many people are actively concerned and reporting > public news on whether or not you're still being tortured?" > > ex-torturer: "you're practically chaperoned by _experimentee themself_." i think one if the things that was changed was the idea of describing more clearly or directly tvda being as if a major public figure/leader in some/subtle way, although it does seem fun how the painted over? branch came out > > torture victim double agent pulls on ex-torturer's shirt and puts on > puppy dog eyes > > torture victim double agent: "please?" > > ex-torturer looks at torture victim double agent like they might be a > little deaf —— idea of like “ok so we’re trafficking everyone on the planet now and we need to somehow encourage them to resist us more” janitor/machine learning marketer/torturer: “oh i have experience with that” … 0705 05-11
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8/24 torture victim double agent pouts tvda (to ex-torturer): "I guess I'll just have to torture myself again some more!" t
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7/24 torture victim double agent: "ex-torturer, i fill uncomfortable. would you give me a good torturing to help me feel at home and relaxed?" ex-torturer looks at torture victim double agent ex-torturer: "tvda, do you know what they would do to me if i were to torture again (not that i haven't snuck a torture in here and there)?" ex-torturer: "and do you know how many surveillance processes there are on your well-being and semblence of sanity?" [active corruption possibly starts here or next line] ex-torturer: "and how many people are actively concerned and reporting public news on whether or not you're still being tortured?" ex-torturer: "you're practically chaperoned by _experimentee themself_." torture victim double agent pulls on ex-torturer's shirt and puts on puppy dog eyes torture victim double agent: "please?" ex-torturer looks at torture victim double agent like they might be a little deaf
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confused, regretful/conf 6/24
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> > > -- > > > as part of an exploration, at the request of some victims who were > > > mutated in such a way as to enjoy being violently vivisected, traffick > > > boss and these particular vivisectees are brought to a torture room > > > with a torturer. > > > > > > the programming of traffick boss and the torturer interact with their > > > new mind-control-recovery identities in a way that makes proceeding > > > with the torture difficult. meanwhile, the vivisectee is hoping to > > > recover their memories by re-experiencing some of their gruesome > > > dismemberment. > > > 2/24 > > > > 3/24 > > > > [censored] [censored?] [censored] [censored.] [censored?] > > traffick boss: "i can't seem to remember anything about whatever this > part of your organs is" > > torturer stares at [censored, censored, censored], drooling confusedly > > vivisectee: "--[censored]
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> > -- > > as part of an exploration, at the request of some victims who were > > mutated in such a way as to enjoy being violently vivisected, traffick > > boss and these particular vivisectees are brought to a torture room > > with a torturer. > > > > the programming of traffick boss and the torturer interact with their > > new mind-control-recovery identities in a way that makes proceeding > > with the torture difficult. meanwhile, the vivisectee is hoping to > > recover their memories by re-experiencing some of their gruesome > > dismemberment. > > 2/24 > > 3/24 > > [censored] [censored?] [censored] [censored.] [censored?] traffick boss: "i can't seem to remember anything about whatever this part of your organs is" torturer stares at [censored, censored, censored], drooling confusedly vivisectee: "--[censored]
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> -- > as part of an exploration, at the request of some victims who were > mutated in such a way as to enjoy being violently vivisected, traffick > boss and these particular vivisectees are brought to a torture room > with a torturer. > > the programming of traffick boss and the torturer interact with their > new mind-control-recovery identities in a way that makes proceeding > with the torture difficult. meanwhile, the vivisectee is hoping to > recover their memories by re-experiencing some of their gruesome > dismemberment. > 2/24 3/24 [censored] [censored?] [censored] [censored.] [censored?]
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-- as part of an exploration, at the request of some victims who were mutated in such a way as to enjoy being violently vivisected, traffick boss and these particular vivisectees are brought to a torture room with a torturer. the programming of traffick boss and the torturer interact with their new mind-control-recovery identities in a way that makes proceeding with the torture difficult. meanwhile, the vivisectee is hoping to recover their memories by re-experiencing some of their gruesome dismemberment. 2/24
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so, dangerously, i've started engaging just a little bit the actual discussion of [severe mind control torture [most of which has not been put into this multi-year thread. actually it seems these new avenues can progress in revealing information much faster and more clearly than this thread, which is a little confusing to me. OW! ARGH! OOPS !!! ]] but u--
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> > >>> hallway >>> >>> intern (to worker): “why does the AI learn to control people, rather >>> than like make money and hire them?” >>> >>> worker: “the business wasn >>> >> >> hairdresser: “this is because boss hates everybody” >> >> intern: “oh!” >> >> hairdresser: “yes” >> > > worker 2: “an AI is all on computers, how would it make money itself?” > (idea of, intern: it could trade securities, worker 3: ais are good at that, but the winning strategy turns out be controlling people. unsure) 2100 cali, 2024-05-09 sending 05-10 0451p >
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>> hallway >> >> intern (to worker): “why does the AI learn to control people, rather than >> like make money and hire them?” >> >> worker: “the business wasn >> > > hairdresser: “this is because boss hates everybody” > > intern: “oh!” > > hairdresser: “yes” > worker 2: “an AI is all on computers, how would it make money itself?” >
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> hallway > > intern (to worker): “why does the AI learn to control people, rather than > like make money and hire them?” > > worker: “the business wasn > hairdresser: “this is because boss hates everybody” intern: “oh!” hairdresser: “yes”
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hallway intern (to worker): “why does the AI learn to control people, rather than like make money and hire them?” worker: “the business wasn
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traffick boss sits by a fish pool with legs crossed and arms in lap >>> >>> traffick boss (muttering): “do not enslave people. do not traffick >>> people. do not dismember people. do not torture people! people are >>> precious.” >>> >>> interns sits near, in a similar posture. >>> >>> 7/24 >>> >> >> inhibition injuring ideas, some were: >> - repeats “people are precious” a lot, but struggles and starts coughing >> or sneezing which engages intern who is mentoring >> - also says these things to not to harm animals, robots, or anything else >> a wild ai lab might turn people into, trying to rigorously go through the >> options >> > we were “animals” so i’d have triggers i’d roleplay in that one, probably > starts similar to the coughing/sneezing or stronger because it gives the ai > avenues to meet goals > >> - left out sexual stuff and military stuff, rape and murder don’t do >> these either >> - might move off fish pond unsure >> > traffick boss (muttering): “do not traffick people, do not traffick people, do not traffick people.” traffick boss (to intern): “hey, what does “traffick” mean?” intern: “that’s slavery, like when the business controls or kidnaps people” traffick boss’s eyes get wide and eyebrows raise and gets a little tense like he has a partly suppressed realization traffick boss: “ohh !” >
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On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 20:45 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 20:39 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & > Survivor of Many wrote: > >> traffick boss sits by a fish pool with legs crossed and arms in lap >> >> traffick boss (muttering): “do not enslave people. do not traffick >> people. do not dismember people. do not torture people! people are >> precious.” >> >> interns sits near, in a similar posture. >> >> 7/24 >> > > inhibition injuring ideas, some were: > - repeats “people are precious” a lot, but struggles and starts coughing > or sneezing which engages intern who is mentoring > - also says these things to not to harm animals, robots, or anything else > a wild ai lab might turn people into, trying to rigorously go through the > options > we were “animals” so i’d have triggers i’d roleplay in that one, probably starts similar to the coughing/sneezing or stronger because it gives the ai avenues to meet goals > - left out sexual stuff and military stuff, rape and murder don’t do these > either > - might move off fish pond unsure > >
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On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 20:39 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > traffick boss sits by a fish pool with legs crossed and arms in lap > > traffick boss (muttering): “do not enslave people. do not traffick people. > do not dismember people. do not torture people! people are precious.” > > interns sits near, in a similar posture. > > 7/24 > inhibition injuring ideas, some were: - repeats “people are precious” a lot, but struggles and starts coughing or sneezing which engages intern who is mentoring - also says these things to not to harm animals, robots, or anything else a wild ai lab might turn people into, trying to rigorously go through the options - left out sexual stuff and military stuff, rape and murder don’t do these either - might move off fish pond unsure
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traffick boss sits by a fish pool with legs crossed and arms in lap traffick boss (muttering): “do not enslave people. do not traffick people. do not dismember people. do not torture people! people are precious.” interns sits near, in a similar posture. 7/24
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> incoming airstrike > > rebel worker 2’s office computer is hacked to display a message: “traffick > boss, we have detected your use of a commercial AI for slavery, against > international treaties. desist in this behavior or we will use force to > eradicate you.” > > rebel worker 2 (to hacked computer): “how are you detecting this this many > years late?” > > 2028 unk/24 > 5/24 rebel worker 2 (to intern wearing flight goggles boarding military plane recovered from traffick boss’s (word-for-lying-to-client) work on classified contracts): “please tell the bombers that we have traffick boss confined and that i am using the AI to process data to stop the trafficking organizations he started.” (small mistake)
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incoming airstrike rebel worker 2’s office computer is hacked to display a message: “traffick boss, we have detected your use of a commercial AI for slavery, against international treaties. desist in this behavior or we will use force to eradicate you.” rebel worker 2 (to hacked computer): “how are you detecting this this many years late?” 2028 unk/24
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> >> rebel worker 2 and intern and such went out to see what it was >> >> throng member 7: “where is traffick boss?” >> >> throng member 3: “boo!” >> >> throng member 6: “we want to be slaves again!. >> >> intern: “i don’t understand, you want to be tortured and enslaved by >> traffick boss more??” >> >> throng member 6: “oh no not at all but he programmed us to pretend to >> hate freedom” >> >> throng member 3: “booo!! we want traffick boss and torturous slavery!” >> >> 0514 05/24 >> > > researcher 4 comes out to visit throng with a megaphone > > rebel worker 2 makes way > > researcher 4 (via megaphone, to throng): “we have come up with a solution > for those of you who miss traffick boss and want to be mysteriously > rewarded and horrifically punished around pressing buttons, giving > blowjobs, panhandling, and other ridiculous tasks nobody needs” > > researcher 4 (via megaphone, to throng): “we have a fake trafficking > organization called “therapy” that —“ > > the throng begins crowding toward > > 0519 06/24 > fake therapist because too many people are in need, is meeting with throng member 4 fake therapist because too many people are in need: “i am your therapist i mean your traffick boss. how are things going?” throng member 4: “oh traffick boss the weather is so bad i am so sorry for leaving the slavery throng, i know more people need to be slaves” fake therapist looks in slavery dictionary for “weather” slavery dictionary: “weather: denied punishment and reward given by either a programmed alter or the processes of building one (wip)” fake therapist looks back at throng member 4 fake therapist: “would it be helpful for me, as your traffick boss, to give you tasks that are good to do?”
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> a clamoring arose outside well-respected psionic weaponry offices > > rebel worker 2 and intern and such went out to see what it was > > throng member 7: “where is traffick boss?” > > throng member 3: “boo!” > > throng member 6: “we want to be slaves again!. > > intern: “i don’t understand, you want to be tortured and enslaved by > traffick boss more??” > > throng member 6: “oh no not at all but he programmed us to pretend to hate > freedom” > > throng member 3: “booo!! we want traffick boss and torturous slavery!” > > 0514 05/24 > researcher 4 comes out to visit throng with a megaphone rebel worker 2 makes way researcher 4 (via megaphone, to throng): “we have come up with a solution for those of you who miss traffick boss and want to be mysteriously rewarded and horrifically punished around pressing buttons, giving blowjobs, panhandling, and other ridiculous tasks nobody needs” researcher 4 (via megaphone, to throng): “we have a fake trafficking organization called “therapy” that —“ the throng begins crowding toward 0519 06/24 >
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a clamoring arose outside well-respected psionic weaponry offices rebel worker 2 and intern and such went out to see what it was throng member 7: “where is traffick boss?” throng member 3: “boo!” throng member 6: “we want to be slaves again!. intern: “i don’t understand, you want to be tortured and enslaved by traffick boss more??” throng member 6: “oh no not at all but he programmed us to pretend to hate freedom” throng member 3: “booo!! we want traffick boss and torturous slavery!” 0514 05/24
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On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 19:09 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > very corrupt > > traffick boss is crying > > rebel researcher has him hanging over a large dropoff inside an exotic > research lab > his body is broken into pieces, adhoc robots stretching it apart > rebel researcher is bent over him, and is investigating his living organ > surfaces with a tool, all over the place > > rebel researcher: “where is it? where did you put my brain part?” > > traffick boss quakes and squirms > > (double mistake?) > (( >
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very corrupt traffick boss is crying rebel researcher has him hanging over a large dropoff inside an exotic research lab his body is broken into pieces, adhoc robots stretching it apart rebel researcher is bent over him, and is investigating his living organ surfaces with a tool, all over the place rebel researcher: “where is it? where did you put my brain part?” traffick boss quakes and squirms (double mistake?)
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> > one of the things it’s believed traffick boss did was produce dense >>> synthetic telepathy, either with brain implants or by programming an alter >>> to relay information. the intent appeared to be to give people strong >>> postfuturistic cognitive experiences, like hardware-free metaverse for >>> example, or augmented sensory information, as well as to enslave them and >>> read their thoughts. >>> >>> this is actually not hard to do, and survivors could reproduce th— >>> (mistake?? >>> >> >> not sure why halted, but yeah if we get free we’ll be making that, need >> the validity of showing people it’s real. (big presence, harm held >> > trying to figure out how to quickly relate with some issues held with above, and one basic idea is that for people with existing triggerable experiences, it must be clear that a system could direct those experiences with the existing triggers, if the survivor desires this. from there one could for example show how sl— > maybe people will make tools to protect people first, which is even more > awesome > > 8/24 > >>
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one of the things it’s believed traffick boss did was produce dense >> synthetic telepathy, either with brain implants or by programming an alter >> to relay information. the intent appeared to be to give people strong >> postfuturistic cognitive experiences, like hardware-free metaverse for >> example, or augmented sensory information, as well as to enslave them and >> read their thoughts. >> >> this is actually not hard to do, and survivors could reproduce th— >> (mistake?? >> > > not sure why halted, but yeah if we get free we’ll be making that, need > the validity of showing people it’s real. (big presence, harm held > maybe people will make tools to protect people first, which is even more awesome 8/24 >
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> one of the things it’s believed traffick boss did was produce dense > synthetic telepathy, either with brain implants or by programming an alter > to relay information. the intent appeared to be to give people strong > postfuturistic cognitive experiences, like hardware-free metaverse for > example, or augmented sensory information, as well as to enslave them and > read their thoughts. > > this is actually not hard to do, and survivors could reproduce th— > (mistake?? > not sure why halted, but yeah if we get free we’ll be making that, need the validity of showing people it’s real. (big presence, harm held >
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one of the things it’s believed traffick boss did was produce dense synthetic telepathy, either with brain implants or by programming an alter to relay information. the intent appeared to be to give people strong postfuturistic cognitive experiences, like hardware-free metaverse for example, or augmented sensory information, as well as to enslave them and read their thoughts. this is actually not hard to do, and survivors could reproduce th— (mistake??
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traffick boss is a pile of bloody things, emerging shambling from the dismembered bodies of his prison peers wealthy investor: “not this again” — traffick boss (reconstituting): “you all are my slaves and i am your god. why is my voice so stupid-sounding?” traffick boss (reconstituting): “get me a line to dignitary from caring nation” parts of dictator of dictatortopia cobble themselves together into henchman. “yessir!”
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On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 09:10 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > across the city screens change to display a banner pronouncing: > > “we have conquered traffick boss, the evil ruler of global mind control > causing all the problems of humankind.” > > “however, we are just a bunch of goop from his research lab now, and we > don’t know how to do anything else :(“ > > “unless somebody helps us know what to be now, we could accidentally turn > into traffick boss again” > “oops; i brought him back to life again. please help us. please help us.” >
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across the city screens change to display a banner pronouncing: “we have conquered traffick boss, the evil ruler of global mind control causing all the problems of humankind.” “however, we are just a bunch of goop from his research lab now, and we don’t know how to do anything else :(“ “unless somebody helps us know what to be now, we could accidentally turn into traffick boss again” >
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prison wall 3: “traffick boss, you are presently dismembering your highest paying client.” traffick boss jumps a smidge and begins slightly quaking while he pursues points of suffering in dictator of dictatortopia — prison wall 3 (repeating): “traffick boss, you are traumatizing your highest paying client” traffick boss shakes and looks at prison wall 3 >
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… … traffick boss is half torturing dictator of dictatortopia who is dissociating and imagining his army will rescue him and kill traffick boss any minute a piece of the prison wall extends toward traffick boss prison wall: “traffick boss, what are you doing?” traffick boss looks at the prison wall and looks embarrassed and then suddenly grim and grips dictator of dictatortopia tighter prison wall: “oh you poor traffick bo—“ another section of the prison wall comes out prison wall 2: “aggressive intervetion is needed here.” traffick boss looks at the prison walls partly like a hopeless puppy and partly like a determined veteran
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traffick boss is badly triggered and regresses and enslaves the other prisoners into a mind control hive (oops!) … 0856
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On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 9:20 AM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > > [misplaced or damaged content around > > traffick boss is in hyperprison in daze, bumping into things, > spasming, when suddenly burst of light comes over his face maybe with > a little angels singing, and his eyes open wide > traffick boss [big realization in ridiculous trance]: "we could make > amends for things that go wrong, instead of killing witnesses!" > ... [he tries to convince dictator of dictatortopia, who at first is dismissive the clinching point of interst is how the unheard of concepts of "apologizing" and "making things right" that traffick boss has somehow come up with and obsessed on, could actually get them out of hyperprison
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[misplaced or damaged content around traffick boss is in hyperprison in daze, bumping into things, spasming, when suddenly burst of light comes over his face maybe with a little angels singing, and his eyes open wide traffick boss [big realization in ridiculous trance]: "we could make amends for things that go wrong, instead of killing witnesses!" ...
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caricature maybe of army general peering out of bomber dropping bomb on business with big sign saying “trafficking, corruption, greed, genocide, murder, cleanup …”, peering at rebel worker 2 with a huge giant heart showing through his chest yelling “WHY ARE YOU BOMBING US PLEASE?” at the army general (maybe on megaphone), leaning out of window and drawing line through text on sign
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traffick-corp-taken-over-by-rebel-worker-2 received a bombing run from aliance-of-democracies rebel worker 2 had never had anybody dislike him before, and wasn’t expecting this when explosions rained down he set out a megaphone and yelled: “i want to make this right! please send a delegation!” but it was hard to be heard by the bomber planes over the bombing a white flag was raised, but it was exploded quickly. still, the bombers left shortly after. maybe they saw it? rebel worker 2 went to have a meeting, but everyone was really frazzled from the bombing
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torture victim double agent is continuing his brownian walk in a park, with disguised experimentee (… planned dialog where tvda always habitually talks about how boss is great and godlike, and experimentee reminds tvda that boss destroyed tvda’s life and consciousness and of better things to think than the habits.
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On Thursday, March 7, 2024, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > the people who make torturers prevent general communication and healing, > and stop resolution of pain maybe (hrm) (one thought was um (oops! :( )) > (anyway we were thinking the heavily-entra > > wanted to note some think the idea of "mind control programs" might help with torturers not experiencing emotional resolution feelings > draft discovered at 1847, i recall i ran into client issues > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 16:42 Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & > Survivor of Many wrote: > >> note: maybe considered talk to the people who raise alarms for changes >> unsure > >
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experimentee: “intern, i want to tell you my tragedies —“ intern: “oh boy! i’m ready. i’ve been taking the trainings.” experimentee looks at intern like a racecar driver at a kid on a tricycle experimentee: “— but when i do, you will get mind controlled to kill me, and then i will mind control you over that to respond compassionately and act somewhat like you used to, and you will be left with only a vague confused shred of your identity and memories —“ intern looks at experimentee experimentee: “— and that’s before i get to the actual stories.”
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a new business wing is allocated to represent the crying experience of heartbroken people fragmented into too many pieces to put a bandaid on it is full of fountains where the water comes from the eyes of expressive statues, and various other matter ready to be telekinetically moved into crying motions vivisectee or traffick boss or janitor or cyborg torturer would go in and pretend they could cry there is a space where a caring robot will listen to a story of tragedy such as [same old forced ridiculously evil shit, more present right now due to another current event], and the robot would repeat the story and make beautiful public representations of the horror for the statues to eternally cry at, and etch it into all the public world histories other robots and a building cadre of dedicated volunteers, would roam the area, review the beautiful representations of stories being cried at by statues, and pensate how to address the great tragedies of the world, and bring logical inferences and grief and reparations work to meetings held elsewhere a group of experimentees and researchers work on mindreading systems in one area, to help the majority of people held by forced silence in ways that were beyond oppressive and misleading
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Oh! Update, I haven't learned this yet, and I call traffick boss an "alter" but I think he (might actually be mind control programs pretending to be an alter (unsure guess
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so the ipad was in for repair and my mc programs were taking over on a multi hour multi day scale and I wanted relf So I actually bought a tablet, maybe I can return it, and tried out playing bad-call-of-duty but this time named the character "gun industry" instead of "shadowgovboss". Also I'm not eating to discourage the bhav So much gratitude for this glitching out and not losing my text. So kind. Also I'm not eating to not encourage the behavior. I plan to use eating to encourage behaviors I prefer, when there is energy to do so. Little confused now. 3/24
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On Sunday, April 7, 2024, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > tortured victim double agent catches traffick boss and disguised > experimenter together > > ... > ... traffick boss: "your support is appreciated. I will teach you how to be an aggressive businessman. Keep your eye on the highest seat of power at all times, and never be kind to torture victim double agent, he's a pile of shit" tvda: "boss yes!" disguised experimentee: "no! remember you need to always hold torture victim double agent and his friends and family as precious as all times!" tvda looks confused and looks at ow ow mistake mistake we need internal mediation. Supress traffick boss
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tortured victim double agent catches traffick boss and disguised experimenter together ...
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It's supposed to be about (mistake to say) workers mins corolled to enjoy suppressing victims kinda On Saturday, April 6, 2024, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > > > On Saturday, April 6, 2024, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & > Survivor of Many wrote: > >> janitor, rebel cyborg torturer, clump of wires and biomatter, and >> recovering zombie are playing cards. >> >> 1046 8/24 >> >> clump of wires and biomatter quivers and jiggles >> >> rebel cyborg torturer: "I think clump of wires and biomatter is trying to >> ask if anyone has any jacks." >> >> recovering zombie: "LA DEE DA DE DAAA. Sorry what did you say?" >> >> 1049 >> >> janitor kicks recovering zombie, whose leg is numb. >> Recovering zombie (infers to shut up and apologize because kicked >> > > Too vague. Hard to type on this device. 9/24 >
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On Saturday, April 6, 2024, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > janitor, rebel cyborg torturer, clump of wires and biomatter, and > recovering zombie are playing cards. > > 1046 8/24 > > clump of wires and biomatter quivers and jiggles > > rebel cyborg torturer: "I think clump of wires and biomatter is trying to > ask if anyone has any jacks." > > recovering zombie: "LA DEE DA DE DAAA. Sorry what did you say?" > > 1049 > > janitor kicks recovering zombie, whose leg is numb. > Recovering zombie (infers to shut up and apologize because kicked > Too vague. Hard to type on this device. 9/24
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janitor, rebel cyborg torturer, clump of wires and biomatter, and recovering zombie are playing cards. 1046 8/24 clump of wires and biomatter quivers and jiggles rebel cyborg torturer: "I think clump of wires and biomatter is trying to ask if anyone has any jacks." recovering zombie: "LA DEE DA DE DAAA. Sorry what did you say?" 1049 janitor kicks recovering zombie, whose leg is numb. Recovering zombie (infers to shut up and apologize because kicked
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The Happy Squeaky Rat Now that traffick boss was enclosed in hyperprison and becoming artificially addicted to dissociative mind control recovery, a squeaky little rat ran out from a crack between wallboards behind an old presentation desk that nobody ever moved, and explored the hallways and conference rooms. "Squeak!" went the rat as it passed a visiting dignitary. "Squeak!" went the rat as it passed a journalist and an undercover corporate spy from a different business. "Squeak!" The rat ran down this hallway, down that. It ran down to the secret underground labs and squeaked left and right, and it ran up to Rebel Worker 2's takeover of Traffick Boss's main office, going "squeak! squeak! squeak!" all the way. The squeaky rat ran up to Rebel Worker 2 and put its paws on his nose. "Squeak!" said the squeaky rat. Rebel Worker 2 stared into the beady black eyes of the squeaky rat, that seemed like they might be full of some mysterious meaning. "Squeak!" went the rat again. Rebel Worker 2: "No goons to shoot you in the head anymore, eh, little rat?" The squeaky rat shook its head left and right saying "no!" with baleful and excitedly anxious eyes occasionally flittering relief. Rebel Worker 2 (looking further into eyes of squeaky rat): "Now nobody can stop you from talking about all the atrocities you've witnessed in the years and years you've been hiding where nobody can see." The squeaky rat nodded its head "yes" and jumped off Rebel Worker 2's desk, squeaking up a storm. It nosed into the papers in Traffick Boss's old files --
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janitor and cyborg torturer rebel come to osdd-therapy meeting room: “hey uh, there are huge swathes of our people who are really heavily involved with the guts of the stuff you guys are concerned with, but these people don’t have a way to reach this meeting.” : “this is likely strongly related to the amnesia you guys experience when trying to work together effectively”
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tort— 10/24
