Re: [darktable-user] Re: what graphics card to get?
Hello Matthias, Thanks for that tip. I have the identical graphics card and had the default set, so i just changed it to 700 as you suggest. How do you arrive at that figure? On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 at 06:44 Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > Hello Horst, > > I guess you have an opencl memory issue. > > Your log says: > ... > [opencl_nlmeans] couldn't enqueue kernel! -4 > [default_process_tiling_opencl_ptp] couldn't run process_cl() for module > 'nlmeans' in tiling mode: 0 > [opencl_pixelpipe] failed to run module 'nlmeans'. fall back to cpu path > ... > > I had a similar problem in the beginning and asked for help here in the > group. The issue for me was solved by adding/changing the following > parameter in darktablerc: opencl_memory_headroom=700 > The default value is 300. But this is too small for my GeForce GTX 750 Ti. > > I gave the benchmark a try. > > With opencl_memory_headroom=700 I get: pixel pipeline processing took > 10,516 secs (20,128 CPU) > > With opencl_memory_headroom=300 I get: pixel pipeline processing took > 19,839 secs (92,520 CPU) > > Big difference. > > Matthias > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2)
- Original Message - > From: darkta...@911networks.com > To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:35:51 AM > Subject: [darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2) > Hi, > > DT 2.2.1 on arch > > I'm still having problems with the export: 900x900. > > Here are my settings: http://i.imgur.com/QS74VlT.png > > Here is a comparison: http://i.imgur.com/BzbRfbs.png You're viewing your images at a zoom level different from 100%, so you're not only benchmarking your rescaling tool (dt Vs mogrify), but also your image viewer's rescaling. Don't do that. If you want to compare the sharpness of images, always view them at 100% zoom. -- Matthieu Moy https://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Re: what graphics card to get?
Hello Horst, I guess you have an opencl memory issue. Your log says: ... [opencl_nlmeans] couldn't enqueue kernel! -4 [default_process_tiling_opencl_ptp] couldn't run process_cl() for module 'nlmeans' in tiling mode: 0 [opencl_pixelpipe] failed to run module 'nlmeans'. fall back to cpu path ... I had a similar problem in the beginning and asked for help here in the group. The issue for me was solved by adding/changing the following parameter in darktablerc: opencl_memory_headroom=700 The default value is 300. But this is too small for my GeForce GTX 750 Ti. I gave the benchmark a try. With opencl_memory_headroom=700 I get: pixel pipeline processing took 10,516 secs (20,128 CPU) With opencl_memory_headroom=300 I get: pixel pipeline processing took 19,839 secs (92,520 CPU) Big difference. Matthias darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated
On lundi 16 janvier 2017 17:14:01 CET I. Ivanov wrote: > Hi, > > If you are to turn on soft proof in DT - does it match what you have on > output (assuming same profile is attached to both soft proof and the end > JPG). > > How about the gamut - is it giving a warning in the areas that are changing? > > Regards, > > B > > On 2017-01-16 05:02 PM, Jeena wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm getting great rusults with darktable it's an awesome program. But > > I have some strange behaviour when exporting my pictures as JPEGS, > > they are always darker and have more satuation in them, therefor I'm > > often losing details which are visible while editing like for example > > the cloud in this image: https://jeena.net/t/darktable-export.png > > > > Or colors which were spot on while editing suddenly have much more > > contrast or satuation or something like in this image: > > https://jeena.net/t/darktable-satuation.png > > > > What can I do to prevent that? I already tried all combinations of > > profile and intent but it didn't change anythng. > > > > /Jeena If all we get is before and after images, without any information about settings, we can only guess at what the problem is... Remco darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2)
On lundi 16 janvier 2017 18:35:51 CET darkta...@911networks.com wrote: > Hi, > > DT 2.2.1 on arch > > I'm still having problems with the export: 900x900. > > Here are my settings: http://i.imgur.com/QS74VlT.png > But what do you do exactly in that extra style you apply on export? And what's the exact command you use to mogrify your images? Fairly standard advice seems to be to apply a little bit of extra sharpening after you have reduced the size of an image, to counter the softening effect that has (somehting like unsharp mask with radius ~1pixel, intensity to taste). To me it looks like the mogrified version has had that extra sharpening applied (almost too much even, there's some suspicion of halo formation at the highest contrast edges). Remco darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2)
You may want to provide a raw file and xmp so we can test. I can't see a huge difference on my images. There may be but the resolution is rather small - 900dpi. In the core options there is "high quality re sampling during export". This option would interfere however with "dithering" (if I understand correctly - one neutralizes the other so only one of these should be on). But again - I typically don't export at 900 dpi Regards, B On 2017-01-16 08:29 PM, darkta...@911networks.com wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:54:15 -0500 Patrick Shanahan wrote: youtube darktable tutorial sharpening I didn't googled, I youtubed (if that can be converted to a verb) and only found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhMR88Jt6nk Using Drawn Masks in Darktable to Sharpen Select Areas. - YouTube. I have found some redmine.darktable but it's 4 years old. There's a lot more about denoising in DT darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2)
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:54:15 -0500 Patrick Shanahan wrote: >youtube darktable tutorial sharpening I didn't googled, I youtubed (if that can be converted to a verb) and only found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhMR88Jt6nk Using Drawn Masks in Darktable to Sharpen Select Areas. - YouTube. I have found some redmine.darktable but it's 4 years old. There's a lot more about denoising in DT -- sknahT vyS darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2)
* darkta...@911networks.com [01-16-17 21:37]: > Hi, > > DT 2.2.1 on arch > > I'm still having problems with the export: 900x900. > > Here are my settings: http://i.imgur.com/QS74VlT.png > > Here is a comparison: http://i.imgur.com/BzbRfbs.png > > * left: full, no resizing > * middle: resized to 900x900 at export (the settings: > http://i.imgur.com/QS74VlT.png) append history... > * right: full (no resizing) by DT. Resized to 900x900 by mogrify > (imagemagik) > > Is there some good tutorial on DT sharpening? google "youtube darktable tutorial sharpening" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo@ http://linuxcounter.net darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2)
Hi, DT 2.2.1 on arch I'm still having problems with the export: 900x900. Here are my settings: http://i.imgur.com/QS74VlT.png Here is a comparison: http://i.imgur.com/BzbRfbs.png * left: full, no resizing * middle: resized to 900x900 at export (the settings: http://i.imgur.com/QS74VlT.png) append history... * right: full (no resizing) by DT. Resized to 900x900 by mogrify (imagemagik) Is there some good tutorial on DT sharpening? -- sknahT vyS darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated
Hi, If you are to turn on soft proof in DT - does it match what you have on output (assuming same profile is attached to both soft proof and the end JPG). How about the gamut - is it giving a warning in the areas that are changing? Regards, B On 2017-01-16 05:02 PM, Jeena wrote: Hi, I'm getting great rusults with darktable it's an awesome program. But I have some strange behaviour when exporting my pictures as JPEGS, they are always darker and have more satuation in them, therefor I'm often losing details which are visible while editing like for example the cloud in this image: https://jeena.net/t/darktable-export.png Or colors which were spot on while editing suddenly have much more contrast or satuation or something like in this image: https://jeena.net/t/darktable-satuation.png What can I do to prevent that? I already tried all combinations of profile and intent but it didn't change anythng. /Jeena darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated
Hi, I'm getting great rusults with darktable it's an awesome program. But I have some strange behaviour when exporting my pictures as JPEGS, they are always darker and have more satuation in them, therefor I'm often losing details which are visible while editing like for example the cloud in this image: https://jeena.net/t/darktable-export.png Or colors which were spot on while editing suddenly have much more contrast or satuation or something like in this image: https://jeena.net/t/darktable-satuation.png What can I do to prevent that? I already tried all combinations of profile and intent but it didn't change anythng. /Jeena darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
> Guillermo Rozas: > > * any supported GPU will give massive performance improvement. > [contradicts Christian Kanzian above] I should have qualified that with 'any supported GPU "that you can buy new today"'. I was also assuming that all modules run without problems on it. > * get as much memory as possible [contradicts following point] > > * DT cannot use buffers larger than 1.5GB [contradicts previous point] It's not necessarily a contradiction. Usually the higher the total memory, the higher is the maximum size of the buffer that can be allocated in one go. Not a big sample, but from the benchmarks sent up to now we have (GPU, total, max buffer): - NVidia 960M, 4GB, 1GB (benchmark attached) - NVidia NVS310, 1GB, 250MB - AMD 480, 8GB, 4GB - AMD RX480, 620MB, 150MB The limitation is given by the GPU/driver combination, not by DT (as johannes pointed up, DT will use as much as it can address). Also, you have to take into account that you can allocate more than one buffer at a time, either on the same or different programs, to run things in parallel (I don't know if DT in particular takes advantage of this). Best regards, Guillermo darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org bench_960M.out Description: Binary data
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
I installed AMDGPU-PRO 16.50 in Ubuntu Gnome following this guide(more or less, read below): https://www.sabeltand.net/amdgpu-1610/ I used kernel kernel 4.4.41 instead of 4.6.x to avoid patching it. Furthermore AMDGPU-PRO is being developed for kernel 4.4.x( https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-PRO-Linux-4.8-DKMS ) You can read the step by step guide and my comment (comment written by Rafa G.). Regards PD: I think we're hijacking the thread, sorry everybody 2017-01-16 20:18 GMT+01:00 Šarūnas : > On 2017-01-16 13:43, Martin Schoepf wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > I attached the output of my AMD 480 8gb. > > > > I previously had a NVDIA GTX 770, and I would have kept it, if it > > wouldn't have broke. > > > > I'm running Kubuntu 16.10 with the amd-pro driver. > > Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4771 CPU @ 3.50GHz, 16gb ram > > > > I was happy with both gpus, but if you can live with ubuntu and the > > amd-gpu pro driver I think you get more for less bugs at AMD. > > Attached is the output from using RX 480 with open-source amdgpu and > libOpenCL libraries from amdgpu-pro (as per > http://www.gearsongallium.com/?p=2960), Ubuntu 16.10 + plasma-desktop. > > Martin, how do you use amdgpu-pro with 16.10? Kernel from 16.04? > > -- > Šarūnas Burdulis > http://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
@Šarūnas : no im currently running on 4.8.0-34-generic. i modified the install script to skip the checks, which system is persistent. I'm no sure about all the steps i did, but if it helps, i can attach the modified install script. This was for the 16.30 driver, just adjust to the newer version accordingly. Cheers On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:07 PM Horst Brückner wrote: > This card was bundled with the desktop. I use the desktop mostly for > software development and in some cases for darktable. So i wanted to > know how good wood be the darktable performance. Thanks for supplying > the benchmark. Next time i look for a better card from the start. > __horst > > On 16.01.2017 19:25, Patrick Rudin wrote: > > Really NVS 310? A new desktop with a card launched around summer 2012? > > > -- > > > ec-logic GmbH > h...@ec-logic.com > www.ec-logic.com > Theresienstraße 12 > 90762 Fürth, germany > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > -- Ing. Martin Schöpf, MSc. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org amdgpu-pro-install Description: Binary data
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
This card was bundled with the desktop. I use the desktop mostly for software development and in some cases for darktable. So i wanted to know how good wood be the darktable performance. Thanks for supplying the benchmark. Next time i look for a better card from the start. __horst On 16.01.2017 19:25, Patrick Rudin wrote: > Really NVS 310? A new desktop with a card launched around summer 2012? -- ec-logic GmbH h...@ec-logic.com www.ec-logic.com Theresienstraße 12 90762 Fürth, germany darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
schrieb Horst Brückner : > Hardware: pretty new Desktop, Intel i7-6700, 32GB Ram, NVIDIA NVS 310, > Nvidia properietary drivers 367.57 Sorry, did not see that you attached the full output. *** [opencl_nlmeans] couldn't enqueue kernel! -4 [default_process_tiling_opencl_ptp] couldn't run process_cl() for module 'nlmeans' in tiling mode: 0 [opencl_pixelpipe] failed to run module 'nlmeans'. fall back to cpu path *** He falls back to cpu on most modules. Maybe I am wrong, but is this a case for a legacy-driver? Regards Patrick darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
On 2017-01-16 13:43, Martin Schoepf wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I attached the output of my AMD 480 8gb. > > I previously had a NVDIA GTX 770, and I would have kept it, if it > wouldn't have broke. > > I'm running Kubuntu 16.10 with the amd-pro driver. > Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4771 CPU @ 3.50GHz, 16gb ram > > I was happy with both gpus, but if you can live with ubuntu and the > amd-gpu pro driver I think you get more for less bugs at AMD. Attached is the output from using RX 480 with open-source amdgpu and libOpenCL libraries from amdgpu-pro (as per http://www.gearsongallium.com/?p=2960), Ubuntu 16.10 + plasma-desktop. Martin, how do you use amdgpu-pro with 16.10? Kernel from 16.04? -- Šarūnas Burdulis http://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas [opencl_init] opencl related configuration options: [opencl_init] [opencl_init] opencl: 1 [opencl_init] opencl_library: '' [opencl_init] opencl_memory_requirement: 500 [opencl_init] opencl_memory_headroom: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_device_priority: '*/!0,*/*/*' [opencl_init] opencl_size_roundup: 16 [opencl_init] opencl_async_pixelpipe: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_synch_cache: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_number_event_handles: 25 [opencl_init] opencl_micro_nap: 1000 [opencl_init] opencl_use_pinned_memory: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_use_cpu_devices: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_avoid_atomics: 1 [opencl_init] opencl_enable_markesteijn: 1 [opencl_init] [opencl_init] found opencl runtime library 'libOpenCL' [opencl_init] opencl library 'libOpenCL' found on your system and loaded [opencl_init] found 1 platform [opencl_init] found 2 devices [opencl_init] device 0 `Ellesmere' supports image sizes of 16384 x 16384 [opencl_init] device 0 `Ellesmere' allows GPU memory allocations of up to 154MB [opencl_init] device 0: Ellesmere GLOBAL_MEM_SIZE: 617MB MAX_WORK_GROUP_SIZE: 256 MAX_WORK_ITEM_DIMENSIONS: 3 MAX_WORK_ITEM_SIZES: [ 256 256 256 ] DRIVER_VERSION: 2036.3 (VM) DEVICE_VERSION: OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (2036.3) [opencl_init] compiling program `demosaic_ppg.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/sarunas/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/demosaic_ppg.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/demosaic_ppg.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `atrous.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/sarunas/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/atrous.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/atrous.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `basic.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/sarunas/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/basic.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/basic.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `blendop.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/sarunas/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/blendop.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/blendop.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `highpass.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/sarunas/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/highpass.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/highpass.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `nlmeans.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/sarunas/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/nlmeans.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/nlmeans.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `gaussian.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/sarunas/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/gaussian.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/gaussian.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `sharpen.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/sarunas/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/sharpen.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/ke
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
Hi everybody, I attached the output of my AMD 480 8gb. I previously had a NVDIA GTX 770, and I would have kept it, if it wouldn't have broke. I'm running Kubuntu 16.10 with the amd-pro driver. Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4771 CPU @ 3.50GHz, 16gb ram I was happy with both gpus, but if you can live with ubuntu and the amd-gpu pro driver I think you get more for less bugs at AMD. just my 2 cents. Cheers On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:26 PM Patrick Rudin wrote: > schrieb Horst Brückner : > > Hardware: pretty new Desktop, Intel i7-6700, 32GB Ram, NVIDIA NVS 310, > > Nvidia properietary drivers 367.57 > > Really NVS 310? A new desktop with a card launched around summer 2012? > > Could you please post the output prior of the pixelpipe? There are > maybe interesting informations about the supportet image sizes and the > GPU memory allocations... > > > Question: is there any Graphics card which runs all benchmark actions > > directly on the GPU? > > As far as I have seen, basically every nvidia gtx-card (7xx and newer). > > > regards > > Patrick > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > -- Ing. Martin Schöpf, MSc. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org [opencl_init] opencl related configuration options: [opencl_init] [opencl_init] opencl: 1 [opencl_init] opencl_library: '' [opencl_init] opencl_memory_requirement: 768 [opencl_init] opencl_memory_headroom: 300 [opencl_init] opencl_device_priority: '*/!0,*/*/*' [opencl_init] opencl_size_roundup: 16 [opencl_init] opencl_async_pixelpipe: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_synch_cache: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_number_event_handles: 25 [opencl_init] opencl_micro_nap: 1000 [opencl_init] opencl_use_pinned_memory: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_use_cpu_devices: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_avoid_atomics: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_enable_markesteijn: 1 [opencl_init] [opencl_init] found opencl runtime library 'libOpenCL' [opencl_init] opencl library 'libOpenCL' found on your system and loaded [opencl_init] found 1 platform [opencl_init] found 2 devices [opencl_init] device 0 `Ellesmere' supports image sizes of 16384 x 16384 [opencl_init] device 0 `Ellesmere' allows GPU memory allocations of up to 4048MB [opencl_init] device 0: Ellesmere GLOBAL_MEM_SIZE: 7726MB MAX_WORK_GROUP_SIZE: 256 MAX_WORK_ITEM_DIMENSIONS: 3 MAX_WORK_ITEM_SIZES: [ 256 256 256 ] DRIVER_VERSION: 2117.7 (VM) DEVICE_VERSION: OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (2117.7) [opencl_init] compiling program `demosaic_ppg.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/marcom/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/demosaic_ppg.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/demosaic_ppg.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `atrous.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/marcom/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/atrous.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/atrous.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `basic.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/marcom/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/basic.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/basic.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `blendop.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/marcom/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/blendop.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/blendop.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `highpass.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/marcom/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/highpass.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/highpass.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [opencl_build_program] BUILD STATUS: 0 BUILD LOG: [opencl_init] compiling program `nlmeans.cl' .. [opencl_load_program] loaded cached binary program from file `/home/marcom/.cache/darktable/cached_kernels_for_Ellesmere/nlmeans.cl.bin' [opencl_load_program] successfully loaded program from `/usr/share/darktable/kernels/nlmeans.cl' [opencl_build_program] successfully built program [op
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
schrieb Horst Brückner : > Hardware: pretty new Desktop, Intel i7-6700, 32GB Ram, NVIDIA NVS 310, > Nvidia properietary drivers 367.57 Really NVS 310? A new desktop with a card launched around summer 2012? Could you please post the output prior of the pixelpipe? There are maybe interesting informations about the supportet image sizes and the GPU memory allocations... > Question: is there any Graphics card which runs all benchmark actions > directly on the GPU? As far as I have seen, basically every nvidia gtx-card (7xx and newer). regards Patrick darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] thumbnails do not match file
On 2017-01-16 02:15 AM, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: Am Sonntag, 15. Januar 2017, 22:22:12 CET schrieb I. Ivanov: Hi Guys, I stumbled on an odd behavior. DT 2.2.1 on Ubuntu 16.04. I did the following: 1. Have a folder on the local drive with 200+ images all corrected everything is good. 2. Removed the images from the collection 3. Copy the images on a NAS share (my archive location) 4. Imported them and noticed not all thumbnails look right. Did you ever copy back an older library.db? What you describe can happen when image ids get "reused" internally, i.e., when there was another image before with the same id which put its thumbnail into the cache. [...] I only have one library. I process them when they are on the local HDD. Once they are done - I would remove them from there, move them on NAS (it is actually a USB drive connected to the router) and re import the images from this "archive" location. I do such a workflow in order to gain speed (local drive is SSD) and the "NAS" is slower. Regards, B Tobias Regards, B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] One color + b&W ? How to ?
Anton Aylward schrieb am 16.01.2017 um 16:30: My Sony camera has a "picture" setting that produces an image that brings out one primary color and makes the rest of the scene B&W.You've probably seen this kind of effect in advertising. The downside of using this in-camera option is that it (a) only works for the 3 primary colours and (b) only works in JPG mode, not RAW. I prefer to use RAW and post-process since I can also do things like deal with skylines and shadows, so I wonder how I would do this in DT after I've done that basic processing. One of the modules I like most - and which you can use for this also (I did a flying flamingo in color with a b/w surrounding - for example) is color zones: https://encrypted.pcode.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/darktable-darkroom-plugins-colorzones.ogv You can pick the relevant color and desaturate all the others - easy. -- regards Bernhard http://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Nvidia GTX 1060 OpenCL
Hi, thanks all for support. Finally i installed drivers from backports and opencl is ON :-) I don't know why it was not working when i installed drivers and cuda from nvidia's .run files. Thanks again Regards Martin On Saturday 14 of January 2017 00:36:02 Patrick Rudin wrote: > schrieb komodo : > > But drivers in distro not support this card, so i need to install > > nvidia drivers. > > Have you tried backports? 375.26 is backported to Debian Jessie. > > Another possibility would be to upgrade to Debian Stretch. Yes, still > testing, but three weeks from deep freeze... > > > regards > > Patrick > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
Ran benchmark (darktable 2.2.1 on Ubuntu 16.04.2) only to better understand my desktop performance - for your info: [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,007 secs (0,052 CPU) initing base buffer [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,063 secs (0,132 CPU) processed `raw black/white point' on GPU, blended on GPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,058 secs (0,036 CPU) processed `white balance' on GPU, blended on GPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,138 secs (0,724 CPU) processed `highlight reconstruction' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,287 secs (1,936 CPU) processed `demosaic' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,806 secs (5,668 CPU) processed `tone mapping' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 1,465 secs (11,452 CPU) processed `lens correction' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,343 secs (0,320 CPU) processed `base curve' on GPU with tiling, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,250 secs (0,196 CPU) processed `input color profile' on GPU with tiling, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,188 secs (1,384 CPU) processed `color reconstruction' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 61,647 secs (125,300 CPU) processed `denoise (non-local means)' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,918 secs (5,904 CPU) processed `global tonemap' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 1,148 secs (5,588 CPU) processed `shadows and highlights' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 5,710 secs (38,600 CPU) processed `equalizer' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 1,043 secs (0,788 CPU) processed `local contrast' on GPU with tiling, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,419 secs (0,260 CPU) processed `color zones' on GPU with tiling, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,070 secs (0,508 CPU) processed `levels' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,373 secs (1,344 CPU) processed `sharpen' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,243 secs (0,256 CPU) processed `color contrast' on GPU with tiling, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,471 secs (0,360 CPU) processed `output color profile' on GPU with tiling, blended on CPU [export] [dev_pixelpipe] took 0,018 secs (0,144 CPU) processed `gamma' on CPU, blended on CPU [export] Hardware: pretty new Desktop, Intel i7-6700, 32GB Ram, NVIDIA NVS 310, Nvidia properietary drivers 367.57 Question: is there any Graphics card which runs all benchmark actions directly on the GPU? On 16.01.2017 17:23, Patrick Rudin wrote: > schrieb Michael Born : >> I'm running a RX480 with MESA OpenGL (because, I like open source) >> and the OpenCL libs from the AMDGPU-PRO driver (see >> http://www.gearsongallium.com/?p=2960 ) >> Darktable works fine with this. > Wow, very interesting. > > Could you please put these two files in the same directory: > http://www.mirada.ch/bench.SRW > http://www.mirada.ch/bench.SRW.xmp > > and post the full output of > darktable-cli bench.SRW test.jpg --core -d perf -d opencl > here? > > I would appreciate that very much :) > > > Regards > > Patrick > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > -- ec-logic GmbH h...@ec-logic.com www.ec-logic.com Theresienstraße 12 90762 Fürth, germany darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.orghb@bozas:~/tmp$ darktable-cli bench.SRW test.jpg --core -d perf -d opencl [opencl_init] opencl related configuration options: [opencl_init] [opencl_init] opencl: 1 [opencl_init] opencl_library: '' [opencl_init] opencl_memory_requirement: 768 [opencl_init] opencl_memory_headroom: 300 [opencl_init] opencl_device_priority: '*/!0,*/*/*' [opencl_init] opencl_size_roundup: 16 [opencl_init] opencl_async_pixelpipe: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_synch_cache: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_number_event_handles: 25 [opencl_init] opencl_micro_nap: 1000 [opencl_init] opencl_use_pinned_memory: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_use_cpu_devices: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_avoid_atomics: 0 [opencl_init] opencl_enable_markesteijn: 1 [opencl_init] [opencl_init] could not find opencl runtime library 'libOpenCL' [opencl_init] could not find opencl runtime library 'libOpenCL.so' [opencl_init] found opencl runtime library 'libOpenCL.so.1' [opencl_init] opencl library 'libOpenCL.so.1' found on your system and loaded [opencl_init] found 1 platform [opencl_init] found 1 device [opencl_init] device 0 `NVS 310' has sm_20 support. [opencl_init] device 0 `NVS 310' supports image sizes of 16384 x 16384 [opencl_init] device 0 `NVS 310' allows GPU memory allocations of up to 240MB [opencl_init] device 0: NVS 310 GLOBAL_MEM_SIZE: 961MB MAX_WORK_GROUP_SIZE: 1024 MAX_WORK_ITEM_DIMENSIONS: 3 MAX_WORK_ITE
Re: [darktable-user] One color + b&W ? How to ?
Le lundi 16 janvier 2017 à 10:30 -0500, Anton Aylward a écrit : > My Sony camera has a "picture" setting that produces an image that > brings out > one primary color and makes the rest of the scene B&W.You've > probably seen > this kind of effect in advertising. Using the "color zones" module. On the saturation tab move the line down and bring it up for the color to keep. -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
schrieb Michael Born : > I'm running a RX480 with MESA OpenGL (because, I like open source) > and the OpenCL libs from the AMDGPU-PRO driver (see > http://www.gearsongallium.com/?p=2960 ) > Darktable works fine with this. Wow, very interesting. Could you please put these two files in the same directory: http://www.mirada.ch/bench.SRW http://www.mirada.ch/bench.SRW.xmp and post the full output of darktable-cli bench.SRW test.jpg --core -d perf -d opencl here? I would appreciate that very much :) Regards Patrick darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] One color + b&W ? How to ?
I would try with a "drawn & Parametric mask" blend mode on the Monochrome module. On the parametric mask use hue or a/b sliders to isolate the main color (hint: input slider). You may also set lightness and chroma for fine tuning, but probably there is no need. Use the mask preview. It's easier to select and then invert the masks in this case. Add just a little mask blur. Also use the "Color picker" tool (the one inside the parametric mask ui), in area mode, to help you locate the color/tone you are looking for: the small indicators will give you a good starting point. Then draw a few masks, brush or path, to roughly isolate the elements. Even if you cannot see that specific color in other parts of the pictures is there too and you'll end up with a small hint of that color in other places otherwise. If you are going for something like green, where you have grass and tree leaves create multiple instances of the monochrome module and use one for each tone, otherwise you need to widen too much the color range picking up about everything or leaving holes. An alternative is the color zone module. Saturation tab, drop down everything else. Add a few masks, even parametric, for fine tuning. https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch03s02s08.html.php https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1RRaXbnixQ Lorenzo 2017-01-16 16:30 GMT+01:00 Anton Aylward : > My Sony camera has a "picture" setting that produces an image that brings > out > one primary color and makes the rest of the scene B&W.You've probably > seen > this kind of effect in advertising. > > The downside of using this in-camera option is that it (a) only works for > the 3 > primary colours and (b) only works in JPG mode, not RAW. > > I prefer to use RAW and post-process since I can also do things like deal > with > skylines and shadows, so I wonder how I would do this in DT after I've > done that > basic processing. > > If this is a single discrete object such as a red sport scar in the midst > of > otherwise banal traffic, such a I've seen in adverts, then its easy enough > to > crop. But there are many situations where the colour you want is > distributed, > perhaps the green of trees on a street scene. > > As I say, this only works for primary colours. I can think of a few > photographs > I've got where I'd like to apply this technique but the color I want to > bring > out isn't primary. > > Other then simply killing the green and blue in a color profile, what can > I do > about the sport car scene? or red and blue in the trees in the street > scene? > > > -- > Rule of Feline Frustration: >When your cat has fallen asleep on your lap and looks utterly >content and adorable, you will suddenly have to go to the bathroom. > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscribe@ > lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] One color + b&W ? How to ?
schrieb Anton Aylward : > Other then simply killing the green and blue in a color profile, what > can I do about the sport car scene? Use the Monochrom-module, got to parametric mask and choose your (including or excluding) colors there... regards Patrick darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] One color + b&W ? How to ?
I did something similar recently with a photo of a bright orange fish in muddy water. To desaturate the water while leaving the fish as-is, I used the "color correction" module with a parametric mask that excluded the fish's hue (using the "input" slider on the "h" tab in the parametric mask settings). -- August Schwerdfeger aug...@schwerdfeger.name On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Anton Aylward wrote: > My Sony camera has a "picture" setting that produces an image that brings > out > one primary color and makes the rest of the scene B&W.You've probably > seen > this kind of effect in advertising. > > The downside of using this in-camera option is that it (a) only works for > the 3 > primary colours and (b) only works in JPG mode, not RAW. > > I prefer to use RAW and post-process since I can also do things like deal > with > skylines and shadows, so I wonder how I would do this in DT after I've > done that > basic processing. > > If this is a single discrete object such as a red sport scar in the midst > of > otherwise banal traffic, such a I've seen in adverts, then its easy enough > to > crop. But there are many situations where the colour you want is > distributed, > perhaps the green of trees on a street scene. > > As I say, this only works for primary colours. I can think of a few > photographs > I've got where I'd like to apply this technique but the color I want to > bring > out isn't primary. > > Other then simply killing the green and blue in a color profile, what can > I do > about the sport car scene? or red and blue in the trees in the street > scene? > > > -- > Rule of Feline Frustration: >When your cat has fallen asleep on your lap and looks utterly >content and adorable, you will suddenly have to go to the bathroom. > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscribe@lis > ts.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] One color + b&W ? How to ?
Am Montag, 16. Januar 2017, 10:30:02 CET schrieb Anton Aylward: > My Sony camera has a "picture" setting that produces an image that brings > out one primary color and makes the rest of the scene B&W.You've > probably seen this kind of effect in advertising. > > The downside of using this in-camera option is that it (a) only works for > the 3 primary colours and (b) only works in JPG mode, not RAW. > > I prefer to use RAW and post-process since I can also do things like deal > with skylines and shadows, so I wonder how I would do this in DT after I've > done that basic processing. > > If this is a single discrete object such as a red sport scar in the midst of > otherwise banal traffic, such a I've seen in adverts, then its easy enough > to crop. But there are many situations where the colour you want is > distributed, perhaps the green of trees on a street scene. > > As I say, this only works for primary colours. I can think of a few > photographs I've got where I'd like to apply this technique but the color I > want to bring out isn't primary. > > Other then simply killing the green and blue in a color profile, what can I > do about the sport car scene? or red and blue in the trees in the street > scene? https://www.darktable.org/2012/07/some-enhancements-to-conditional-blending/ might have some hints. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [darktable-user] One color + b&W ? How to ?
Anton, I can't remember all the details, but I think using a parametric mask based on hue can do this. You may want to combine this with a shaped mask to limit the area of the image impacted. Regards, Tony. On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 10:30 -0500, Anton Aylward wrote: My Sony camera has a "picture" setting that produces an image that brings out one primary color and makes the rest of the scene B&W.You've probably seen this kind of effect in advertising. The downside of using this in-camera option is that it (a) only works for the 3 primary colours and (b) only works in JPG mode, not RAW. I prefer to use RAW and post-process since I can also do things like deal with skylines and shadows, so I wonder how I would do this in DT after I've done that basic processing. If this is a single discrete object such as a red sport scar in the midst of otherwise banal traffic, such a I've seen in adverts, then its easy enough to crop. But there are many situations where the colour you want is distributed, perhaps the green of trees on a street scene. As I say, this only works for primary colours. I can think of a few photographs I've got where I'd like to apply this technique but the color I want to bring out isn't primary. Other then simply killing the green and blue in a color profile, what can I do about the sport car scene? or red and blue in the trees in the street scene? -- Tony Arnold MBCS, CITP | Senior IT Security Analyst | Directorate of IT Services | G.110, Kilburn Building | The University of Manchester | Manchester M13 9PL | T: +44 161 275 6093 | M: +44 773 330 0039 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
Am 16.01.2017 um 16:05 schrieb Christian Kanzian: > Will R9 270X and OpenCL work or not? To me the status is not clear and > the post dates back to April last year. > >> And keep in mind that OpenCL capabilities are coming into FOSS driver >> soon. > > If I buy a card it should work now and not at some point in the future. > Otherwise I would wait until there is some support and save power and > money. The AMD card you would buy IS supported by AMDGPU-PRO (except you plan buying a card older than your current 270X). I'm running a RX480 with MESA OpenGL (because, I like open source) and the OpenCL libs from the AMDGPU-PRO driver (see http://www.gearsongallium.com/?p=2960 ) Darktable works fine with this. Michael darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] One color + b&W ? How to ?
My Sony camera has a "picture" setting that produces an image that brings out one primary color and makes the rest of the scene B&W.You've probably seen this kind of effect in advertising. The downside of using this in-camera option is that it (a) only works for the 3 primary colours and (b) only works in JPG mode, not RAW. I prefer to use RAW and post-process since I can also do things like deal with skylines and shadows, so I wonder how I would do this in DT after I've done that basic processing. If this is a single discrete object such as a red sport scar in the midst of otherwise banal traffic, such a I've seen in adverts, then its easy enough to crop. But there are many situations where the colour you want is distributed, perhaps the green of trees on a street scene. As I say, this only works for primary colours. I can think of a few photographs I've got where I'd like to apply this technique but the color I want to bring out isn't primary. Other then simply killing the green and blue in a color profile, what can I do about the sport car scene? or red and blue in the trees in the street scene? -- Rule of Feline Frustration: When your cat has fallen asleep on your lap and looks utterly content and adorable, you will suddenly have to go to the bathroom. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
Hi, Am 2017-01-16 15:32, schrieb Germano Massullo: Il 13/01/2017 14:24, Christian Kanzian ha scritto: frglx was stopped by AMD and AMDGPU-PRO will be the next generation. So Debian 9 will be released without frglx. AMDGPU-PRO does not support my R9 270X, which was announce in December 2013. Debian 9 has the Nividia 375.26 driver, which still supports my old GT 640 announced mid 2012. On some operations the card is slower than the GPU. Thats why I got the R9 270X in 2015 and in 2017 it will get useless because the closed source driver has no support and the open source driver has no OpenCL. ==Concerning AMDGPU (FOSS driver)== You are not well informed about that. See official AMD statement here https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/amd-linux/866403-r9-270x-is-there-any-hope-for-amdgpu-support-in-the-future?p=866571#post866571 Will R9 270X and OpenCL work or not? To me the status is not clear and the post dates back to April last year. And keep in mind that OpenCL capabilities are coming into FOSS driver soon. If I buy a card it should work now and not at some point in the future. Otherwise I would wait until there is some support and save power and money. ==Concerning AMDGPU-Pro (propertary driver)== See compatibility list, they even support R7 260 cards http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx I know this, but my card is not listed. Also your referenced forum thread at phronix gives hints that R9 270X is not supported by AMDGPU Pro [0]. In two our three months I will do an upgrade to the next Debian release. Then I will see. Just my2cents and the current state regarding the question "what graphics card to get?" And I'm sorry, I feel too old to fiddle around with drivers manually. Christian [0] https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/amd-linux/866403-r9-270x-is-there-any-hope-for-amdgpu-support-in-the-future?p=904960#post904960 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
Il 13/01/2017 14:24, Christian Kanzian ha scritto: > frglx was stopped by AMD and AMDGPU-PRO will be the next generation. > So Debian 9 will be released without frglx. AMDGPU-PRO does not > support my R9 270X, > which was announce in December 2013. > > Debian 9 has the Nividia 375.26 driver, which still supports my > old GT 640 announced mid 2012. On some operations the card is slower > than the GPU. > Thats why I got the R9 270X in 2015 and in 2017 it will get useless > because the > closed source driver has no support and the open source driver has no > OpenCL. ==Concerning AMDGPU (FOSS driver)== You are not well informed about that. See official AMD statement here https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/amd-linux/866403-r9-270x-is-there-any-hope-for-amdgpu-support-in-the-future?p=866571#post866571 And keep in mind that OpenCL capabilities are coming into FOSS driver soon. ==Concerning AMDGPU-Pro (propertary driver)== See compatibility list, they even support R7 260 cards http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: AW: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
hi, depending on how much memory your driver allows to allocate at once, dt will happily use whatever additional memory you have. that's always a plus, if you run out we revert to tiling (which means multiple passes, will be slow). if you run darktable -d opencl, it will output stuff like [opencl_init] device 0 `GeForce GTX 670' has sm_20 support. [opencl_init] device 0 `GeForce GTX 670' supports image sizes of 32768 x 32768 [opencl_init] device 0 `GeForce GTX 670' allows GPU memory allocations of up to 1023MB which is important to us. sm_20: we use some inline ptx assembly for nvidia cards to support atomic floats in global memory. that should really be standard today if you get an nvidia card. image size: many of our buffers are images/textures. so the bigger the better i guess, depending on how crazy you go with your images. allocations: we can't usually alloc more than that in one buffer, even if the card has more memory in total (mine from the example above has 4G). that's still plenty here for interactive work, the equalizer for one will rather allocate 7 wavelet scale buffers @screen res than one gigantic one. hth, jo On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Christian Kanzian wrote: > Hi, > > Am 2017-01-16 11:51, schrieb Michael Below: >> >> Hi, >> >> I think that line about AMD not being supported at all by current >> Linux distros is a bit misleading, AFAIK you need to install the >> AMDGPU-PRO driver available on their homepage (for Ubuntu and RH). >> NVidia offers a more streamlined installation process for a wider >> range of distros. > > > That's correct! As I've written, it seems that AMD drops support for older > models earlier. > I only want to point out that one has to check driver support carefully. > >> There was one previous report on the list about an OpenCL GPU being >> slower than a CPU, I think that involved an old NVidia card paired >> with a new i7 CPU. For myself, OpenCL does speed things up >> considerably (old AMD Phenom II X4 810 CPU, Nvidia 750Ti card). > > > There were a number of reports and discussions in conjunction with Nvidia > cards. > Some operations or better moduls like Equalizer and profiled denoise took > way longer > on GPU than CPU. In my case it was a Nvidia GT640 vs. i7-2600. I bought the > card for > darktable only. Different OpenCL settings didn't helped. I also had a > slugish ton curve. > > These are just personal experiences. > >> About the memory issue: I think darktable can use multiple buffers >> inside OpenCL. >> >> Cheers >> Michael > > > Christian > > >> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de [mailto:dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de] >> Gesendet: Montag, 16. Januar 2017 11:32 >> An: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org >> Betreff: Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get? >> >> Here's a summary of the information gathered so far. It's not really >> exhaustive! >> >> Patrick Rudin: >> >> * Suggests NVidia 1050, 1050Ti or 1060. >> >> * AMD seems not to be supported *at all* by current Linux distros. >> >> * Would also like to know about memory requirement. >> >> >> Christian Kanzian: >> >> * cheap card can be slower than the CPU. [contradicts Guillermo >> Rozas below] >> >> * AMD Radeon R9 270X supported under Debian 8, but not any more >> under Debian 9, since AMD stopped support in proprietary driver. >> Planning to turn to NVidia. >> >> Guillermo Rozas: >> >> * runs DT on an intel i7-4720HQ notebook with an Nvidia 960M 4GB, >> under Ubuntu 16.10. CUDA is fully supported by the proprietary >> drivers, and DT uses the GPU without issues. >> >> * any supported GPU will give massive performance improvement. >> [contradicts Christian Kanzian above] >> >> * get as much memory as possible [contradicts following point] >> >> * DT cannot use buffers larger than 1.5GB [contradicts previous point] >> >> David Vincent-Jones: >> >> * There seems to be a problem with color management and NVidia. >> Using a more current version of DisplayCAL/ArgyllCMS seems to >> solve the problem. >> >> Maybe the devs want to add some more information? >> >> That was my original question: >> >> On 2017-Jan-13, Stefan Klinger wrote with possible deletions: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> what graphics card to get for using Darktable with OpenCL under Linux? >>> >>> I already have an Asus M5A97 evo R2 mainboard, with an PCIe 2.0 x16 >>> slot for the graphics card. I want to stay in the price range below >>> 200€. I do not play games, nor do I use 3D graphics software of any >>> kind. Darktable will be the most demanding task for this piece of >>> hardware. >>> >>> The Darktable manual mentions a minimum of 1GB of graphics memory to >>> be sufficient [1]. Is this up-to-date information? Does DT benefit >>> from more more? How much more? >>> >>> There seem to be different versions of OpenCL [2]. Is that an issue >>> when deciding which card to buy? What does Darktable need here? >>> >>> NVidia grap
Re: AW: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
Hi, Am 2017-01-16 11:51, schrieb Michael Below: Hi, I think that line about AMD not being supported at all by current Linux distros is a bit misleading, AFAIK you need to install the AMDGPU-PRO driver available on their homepage (for Ubuntu and RH). NVidia offers a more streamlined installation process for a wider range of distros. That's correct! As I've written, it seems that AMD drops support for older models earlier. I only want to point out that one has to check driver support carefully. There was one previous report on the list about an OpenCL GPU being slower than a CPU, I think that involved an old NVidia card paired with a new i7 CPU. For myself, OpenCL does speed things up considerably (old AMD Phenom II X4 810 CPU, Nvidia 750Ti card). There were a number of reports and discussions in conjunction with Nvidia cards. Some operations or better moduls like Equalizer and profiled denoise took way longer on GPU than CPU. In my case it was a Nvidia GT640 vs. i7-2600. I bought the card for darktable only. Different OpenCL settings didn't helped. I also had a slugish ton curve. These are just personal experiences. About the memory issue: I think darktable can use multiple buffers inside OpenCL. Cheers Michael Christian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de [mailto:dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de] Gesendet: Montag, 16. Januar 2017 11:32 An: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Betreff: Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get? Here's a summary of the information gathered so far. It's not really exhaustive! Patrick Rudin: * Suggests NVidia 1050, 1050Ti or 1060. * AMD seems not to be supported *at all* by current Linux distros. * Would also like to know about memory requirement. Christian Kanzian: * cheap card can be slower than the CPU. [contradicts Guillermo Rozas below] * AMD Radeon R9 270X supported under Debian 8, but not any more under Debian 9, since AMD stopped support in proprietary driver. Planning to turn to NVidia. Guillermo Rozas: * runs DT on an intel i7-4720HQ notebook with an Nvidia 960M 4GB, under Ubuntu 16.10. CUDA is fully supported by the proprietary drivers, and DT uses the GPU without issues. * any supported GPU will give massive performance improvement. [contradicts Christian Kanzian above] * get as much memory as possible [contradicts following point] * DT cannot use buffers larger than 1.5GB [contradicts previous point] David Vincent-Jones: * There seems to be a problem with color management and NVidia. Using a more current version of DisplayCAL/ArgyllCMS seems to solve the problem. Maybe the devs want to add some more information? That was my original question: On 2017-Jan-13, Stefan Klinger wrote with possible deletions: Hello, what graphics card to get for using Darktable with OpenCL under Linux? I already have an Asus M5A97 evo R2 mainboard, with an PCIe 2.0 x16 slot for the graphics card. I want to stay in the price range below 200€. I do not play games, nor do I use 3D graphics software of any kind. Darktable will be the most demanding task for this piece of hardware. The Darktable manual mentions a minimum of 1GB of graphics memory to be sufficient [1]. Is this up-to-date information? Does DT benefit from more more? How much more? There seem to be different versions of OpenCL [2]. Is that an issue when deciding which card to buy? What does Darktable need here? NVidia graphics cards seem to differ in “compute ability”, which seems to be the CUDA version [3] they support. What is required here for Darktable? Is there something similar to look out for with AMD Radeon cards? The manual [4] mentions “recent” AMD Radeon HD7xxx to work out of the box. According to Wikipedia [5] that series was introduced in 2011 and had its latest update in 2013. Also, it seems to be difficult to buy any of these now (I don't want to buy used hardware). Is there more current information available? Does anyone have information on / experience with Radeon R7 or similar (i.e., GCN family of cards [6])? They seem to be available for under 100€ currently [7]. A list of NVidia GPUs with CUDA-support (I guess that's required for OpenCL on NVidia) is here [10]. Most graphics cards I've seen are not actually built by AMD or NVidia, but rather by 3rd party manufacturers (MSI, ASUS, Palit, Zotac, Gainward, Gigabyte, PNY, ...) using their GPUs. Is there any particularly good / bad one to choose? What else to pay attention to? Thanks for helping Stefan BTW: The link “darktable user mailing list” [8] on [9] is outdated. [1] http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch10s02s03.html.php [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#Version_features_and_specifications [4] http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch10s02s06.html.php [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_7000_Series [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R
AW: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
Hi, I think that line about AMD not being supported at all by current Linux distros is a bit misleading, AFAIK you need to install the AMDGPU-PRO driver available on their homepage (for Ubuntu and RH). NVidia offers a more streamlined installation process for a wider range of distros. There was one previous report on the list about an OpenCL GPU being slower than a CPU, I think that involved an old NVidia card paired with a new i7 CPU. For myself, OpenCL does speed things up considerably (old AMD Phenom II X4 810 CPU, Nvidia 750Ti card). About the memory issue: I think darktable can use multiple buffers inside OpenCL. Cheers Michael -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de [mailto:dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de] Gesendet: Montag, 16. Januar 2017 11:32 An: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Betreff: Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get? Here's a summary of the information gathered so far. It's not really exhaustive! Patrick Rudin: * Suggests NVidia 1050, 1050Ti or 1060. * AMD seems not to be supported *at all* by current Linux distros. * Would also like to know about memory requirement. Christian Kanzian: * cheap card can be slower than the CPU. [contradicts Guillermo Rozas below] * AMD Radeon R9 270X supported under Debian 8, but not any more under Debian 9, since AMD stopped support in proprietary driver. Planning to turn to NVidia. Guillermo Rozas: * runs DT on an intel i7-4720HQ notebook with an Nvidia 960M 4GB, under Ubuntu 16.10. CUDA is fully supported by the proprietary drivers, and DT uses the GPU without issues. * any supported GPU will give massive performance improvement. [contradicts Christian Kanzian above] * get as much memory as possible [contradicts following point] * DT cannot use buffers larger than 1.5GB [contradicts previous point] David Vincent-Jones: * There seems to be a problem with color management and NVidia. Using a more current version of DisplayCAL/ArgyllCMS seems to solve the problem. Maybe the devs want to add some more information? That was my original question: On 2017-Jan-13, Stefan Klinger wrote with possible deletions: > Hello, > > what graphics card to get for using Darktable with OpenCL under Linux? > > I already have an Asus M5A97 evo R2 mainboard, with an PCIe 2.0 x16 > slot for the graphics card. I want to stay in the price range below > 200€. I do not play games, nor do I use 3D graphics software of any > kind. Darktable will be the most demanding task for this piece of > hardware. > > The Darktable manual mentions a minimum of 1GB of graphics memory to > be sufficient [1]. Is this up-to-date information? Does DT benefit > from more more? How much more? > > There seem to be different versions of OpenCL [2]. Is that an issue > when deciding which card to buy? What does Darktable need here? > > NVidia graphics cards seem to differ in “compute ability”, which seems > to be the CUDA version [3] they support. What is required here for > Darktable? Is there something similar to look out for with AMD Radeon > cards? > > The manual [4] mentions “recent” AMD Radeon HD7xxx to work out of the > box. According to Wikipedia [5] that series was introduced in 2011 > and had its latest update in 2013. Also, it seems to be difficult to > buy any of these now (I don't want to buy used hardware). Is there > more current information available? > > Does anyone have information on / experience with Radeon R7 or similar > (i.e., GCN family of cards [6])? They seem to be available for under > 100€ currently [7]. > > A list of NVidia GPUs with CUDA-support (I guess that's required for > OpenCL on NVidia) is here [10]. > > Most graphics cards I've seen are not actually built by AMD or NVidia, > but rather by 3rd party manufacturers (MSI, ASUS, Palit, Zotac, > Gainward, Gigabyte, PNY, ...) using their GPUs. Is there any > particularly good / bad one to choose? > > What else to pay attention to? > > Thanks for helping > Stefan > > > BTW: The link “darktable user mailing list” [8] on [9] is outdated. > > > [1] http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch10s02s03.html.php > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL > [3] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#Version_features_and_specifications > [4] http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch10s02s06.html.php > [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_7000_Series > [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon#Graphics_Core_Next-family > [7] https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/?fs=Radeon%20R7&cat=gra16_512 > [8] > http://www.darktable.org/resources/darktable-user+subscr...@lists.dark > table.org [9] http://www.darktable.org/resources/ > [10] https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus -- http://stefan-klinger.de o/X Send plain text messages only, not exceeding 32kB./\/
Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?
Here's a summary of the information gathered so far. It's not really exhaustive! Patrick Rudin: * Suggests NVidia 1050, 1050Ti or 1060. * AMD seems not to be supported *at all* by current Linux distros. * Would also like to know about memory requirement. Christian Kanzian: * cheap card can be slower than the CPU. [contradicts Guillermo Rozas below] * AMD Radeon R9 270X supported under Debian 8, but not any more under Debian 9, since AMD stopped support in proprietary driver. Planning to turn to NVidia. Guillermo Rozas: * runs DT on an intel i7-4720HQ notebook with an Nvidia 960M 4GB, under Ubuntu 16.10. CUDA is fully supported by the proprietary drivers, and DT uses the GPU without issues. * any supported GPU will give massive performance improvement. [contradicts Christian Kanzian above] * get as much memory as possible [contradicts following point] * DT cannot use buffers larger than 1.5GB [contradicts previous point] David Vincent-Jones: * There seems to be a problem with color management and NVidia. Using a more current version of DisplayCAL/ArgyllCMS seems to solve the problem. Maybe the devs want to add some more information? That was my original question: On 2017-Jan-13, Stefan Klinger wrote with possible deletions: > Hello, > > what graphics card to get for using Darktable with OpenCL under Linux? > > I already have an Asus M5A97 evo R2 mainboard, with an PCIe 2.0 x16 > slot for the graphics card. I want to stay in the price range below > 200€. I do not play games, nor do I use 3D graphics software of any > kind. Darktable will be the most demanding task for this piece of > hardware. > > The Darktable manual mentions a minimum of 1GB of graphics memory to > be sufficient [1]. Is this up-to-date information? Does DT benefit > from more more? How much more? > > There seem to be different versions of OpenCL [2]. Is that an issue > when deciding which card to buy? What does Darktable need here? > > NVidia graphics cards seem to differ in “compute ability”, which seems > to be the CUDA version [3] they support. What is required here for > Darktable? Is there something similar to look out for with AMD Radeon > cards? > > The manual [4] mentions “recent” AMD Radeon HD7xxx to work out of the > box. According to Wikipedia [5] that series was introduced in 2011 > and had its latest update in 2013. Also, it seems to be difficult to > buy any of these now (I don't want to buy used hardware). Is there > more current information available? > > Does anyone have information on / experience with Radeon R7 or similar > (i.e., GCN family of cards [6])? They seem to be available for under > 100€ currently [7]. > > A list of NVidia GPUs with CUDA-support (I guess that's required for > OpenCL on NVidia) is here [10]. > > Most graphics cards I've seen are not actually built by AMD or NVidia, > but rather by 3rd party manufacturers (MSI, ASUS, Palit, Zotac, > Gainward, Gigabyte, PNY, ...) using their GPUs. Is there any > particularly good / bad one to choose? > > What else to pay attention to? > > Thanks for helping > Stefan > > > BTW: The link “darktable user mailing list” [8] on [9] is outdated. > > > [1] http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch10s02s03.html.php > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#Version_features_and_specifications > [4] http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch10s02s06.html.php > [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_7000_Series > [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon#Graphics_Core_Next-family > [7] https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/?fs=Radeon%20R7&cat=gra16_512 > [8] > http://www.darktable.org/resources/darktable-user+subscr...@lists.darktable.org > [9] http://www.darktable.org/resources/ > [10] https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus -- http://stefan-klinger.de o/X Send plain text messages only, not exceeding 32kB./\/ \ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] thumbnails do not match file
Am Sonntag, 15. Januar 2017, 22:22:12 CET schrieb I. Ivanov: > Hi Guys, > > I stumbled on an odd behavior. DT 2.2.1 on Ubuntu 16.04. I did the > following: > > 1. Have a folder on the local drive with 200+ images all corrected > everything is good. > 2. Removed the images from the collection > 3. Copy the images on a NAS share (my archive location) > 4. Imported them and noticed not all thumbnails look right. Did you ever copy back an older library.db? What you describe can happen when image ids get "reused" internally, i.e., when there was another image before with the same id which put its thumbnail into the cache. [...] > Regards, > > B Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [darktable-user] After export
Am Montag, 16. Januar 2017, 08:12:53 CET schrieb Christian Kanzian: > Hi, > > Am 2017-01-16 03:46, schrieb darkta...@911networks.com: > > DT 2.2.1 on archlinux. > > > > Is there a way of executing a script on the exported image or images? > > (upload to my server & email). > > What about a LUA script like the sample in the manual [0]. > > > Now I'm doing it manually one by one > > selecting by hand with the date and time of ls > > Christian > > [0] > http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch09.html.php#lua_storage_example One could also register to the "intermediate-export-image" [sic] signal in Lua: https://www.darktable.org/lua-api/ar01s03.html.php#events_intermediate-export-image Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
