Re: Weird! My network turns itself off on bootup! Why?
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, trio wrote: wd io=0x280 irq=5 This loads the driver module at boot time for my wd8003 card - they're ... Is there a syntax listing for the /etc/modules file somewhere? I'm running a 3c509. command line options for modules vary depending on what module is being loaded. many of them take an 'io=' and an 'irq=' option. check the notes in the linux kernel source: /usr/src/linux/Documentation (you must have the kernel source installed to do this, of course). also, check the source code for the individual drivers - options are quite often NOT documented and the only way to find out about them is to read the source. Any idea what i'd need? Right now, mine says: #auto 3c509 sg What do those things mean? OK, you're loading the 3c509 module and the scsi generic module... looks like my guess was wrong. The 3c509 module can be given io= and irq= options in /etc/modules (or in /etc/conf.modules) Try removing the '#' from the '#hash' line. See if that makes any difference. here's something for you to try. 1. run 'lsmod' to list all loaded modules. make sure that 3c509 is listed. e.g. (from one of my systems - yours will vary a bit) # lsmod Module:#pages: Used by: isofs 51 sr_mod 41 serial 81 lp 20 sound 250 nfs 136 appletalk 411 ip_alias 11 wd 21-- my wd8003 module 8390 2[wd]0-- the 8390 module is used by the wd8003 module 2. run 'ifconfig eth0' to display interface configuration details. make sure that your ethernet interface is configured properly. e.g. # ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:C0:0A:44:A5 inet addr:203.16.167.2 Bcast:203.16.167.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/241 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1501003 errors:5 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:1269427 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Interrupt:5 Base address:0x290 Memory:d-d2000 3. run 'cat /proc/ioports' to see what I/O ports are in use in your system # cat /proc/ioports 0: 166488335 timer 1:1601282 keyboard 2: 0 cascade 3:4802968 + serial 5:2694949 WD8003-old --- here's my wd8003 7: 3653 sound blaster 8: 1 + rtc 12:1141666 + 53c7,8xx 13: 1 math error 14:3335560 + ide0 4. run 'cat /proc/interrupts' to see what IRQs are in use: e.g. # cat /proc/interrupts 0: 166488335 timer 1:1601282 keyboard 2: 0 cascade 3:4802968 + serial 5:2694949 WD8003-old --- here's my wd8003 7: 3653 sound blaster 8: 1 + rtc 12:1141666 + 53c7,8xx 13: 1 math error 14:3335560 + ide0 your 3c509 should should be listed in both /proc/ioports and /proc/interrupts. Make sure that the irq interrupt are correct. 5. wait for the problem to occur again. 6. repeat the tests above. compare differences. also, try to determine under what circumstances the ethernet configuration is lostis it at a certain time of day? is it when the network card is receiving/transmitting a lot of traffic? is it when the network card is idle for some time? is it when the system is under a heavy load? is it after you run a certain program? Finding out what circumstances are associated with the problem will help to determine what is causing the problem. craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minor DNS problem
hi all, Sorry to come back to the list again. Just a little glitch really, but it has me stumped... I can't get IP name resolution working properly. (All I want to do is resolve IP addresses using an available nameserver.) I can connect to machines on the local ethernet fine, using numeric IP addresses (can't see outside the local domain, due to the firewall, but that's another story..). Also, I can connect using name instead of number for a couple of machines I put into /etc/hosts by hand. My /etc/host.conf file says order hosts,bind multi on and /etc/resolv.conf says search bath.ac.uk nameserver 138.38.32.3,138.38.32.46 Try nameserver 138.38.32.3 nameserver 138.38.32.46 instead. That is what is working for me. I know the nameservers are ok, from doing nslookup - 138.38.32.3 So, looking in /etc/hosts for hostnames is working, and the local nameservers are working and reachable... But something somewhere is clearly not connecting... Can anyone suggest what? eternally grateful, ;) -- Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Time is the best teacher, unfortunately it kills all of it's students Rob MacWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED] N9NPU -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minor DNS problem
[sorry if you get this twice, I had problems sending it out the first time] On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Andrew Spencer wrote: hi all, Sorry to come back to the list again. Just a little glitch really, but it has me stumped... I can't get IP name resolution working properly. (All I want to do is resolve IP addresses using an available nameserver.) I can connect to machines on the local ethernet fine, using numeric IP addresses (can't see outside the local domain, due to the firewall, but that's another story..). Also, I can connect using name instead of number for a couple of machines I put into /etc/hosts by hand. My /etc/host.conf file says order hosts,bind multi on and /etc/resolv.conf says search bath.ac.uk nameserver 138.38.32.3,138.38.32.46 These are wrong. they should look like this: nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx The way they are configured by default doesn't work. It is a known bug, BTW. __ Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: super command
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Shawn Asmussen wrote: I use super on my Debian box at home, and we used to use it at my former place of employment. I am now a system administrator for another company, and I wish to install super on the system there to use as a wrapper for scripts that must run as root. Unfortunately, despite much searching, I cannot find the source code anywhere except for in the Debian archives. Will the debianized source compile ok if I edit the makefile for the AIX options, or are there some other changes to the source that are Linux specific, meaning I have to de-debianize the source before I use it? Any help in this regard would be much appreciated. I realize that this is not technically a debian question, but I'm hoping somebody who reads this will know the answer. Thanks. If it's in the new source format, then you can just get the .orig file, and that will be the original source. If it's in the old format, I think you can apply the diff to the .tar.gz file, and that should give you the source. __ Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBMwj0k/6MRr9c8VylAQEnEgH9G+8GwJDVFVLstiZMhXw6LNDprzAmDxIF DwcT3SCmLqeeTKwIh6QUrtjvHnOy7RbqUPIYxR0NuNoWcOx4DGndwQ== =wuFV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minor DNS problem
Hi Andrew, You wrote: Andrew I can connect to machines on the local ethernet fine, using Andrew numeric IP addresses (can't see outside the local domain, due Andrew to the firewall, but that's another story..). Also, I can Andrew connect using name instead of number for a couple of machines Andrew I put into /etc/hosts by hand. Andrew Andrew My /etc/host.conf file says order hosts,bind multi on Andrew Andrew and /etc/resolv.conf says search bath.ac.uk nameserver Andrew 138.38.32.3,138.38.32.46 I am not sure about this, maybe I am wrong, but AFAIK you can't do nameserver 0.0.0.0,0.0.0.0 I.e using commas in one namserver line, split it into 2 lines with trailing nameserver for each one of them. borik -- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hebrew University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jerusalem, Israelphone: +972 2 6411880 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's wrong with Debian User List
Hi! I have a question. The same messages are dropping in over and over again. I've got the same messages for about 25 times now. /Mikael Hallendal -- --- E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] HomePage : http://mds.mdh.se/~cel95mhl -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ungraceful shutdown
Just HOW BAD is an ungraceful shutdown? I.e., when somebody just hits the power switch? Besides forcing an fsck, would fsck tell me if some file were corrupted? BTW, I'm having the 'XX interrupt' problem on boot-up as well, coinciding with syslogd. I added the ';;' to the default case, but that didn't do it. Also, starting and stopping syslogd from the command line with the same switches didn't cause the message. I'm guessing, then, that it's a BASH 2.0 problem? But then, switching the order of syslogd klogd didn't change things; syslogd still triggered it. I'm afraid that's about the limit of my analytical ability with Linux without doing a LOT more reading. (heck, I wasn't even sure if switching the order was a Bad Thing.) -- David L. Parsley He's a real UNIX Man, sitting in his UNIX LAN In the Mind of God Making all his UNIX .plans -- for nobody. UNIX Man - If the Beatles were Programmers -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lpr - help please!
Hi, In moving to the 2.x.x kernel I decided to switch to Debian 1.2 from Redhat 2.1, and thus far am very happy with that decision. Thanks to all of you that have helped the Debian project, as it seems great! I'm having a problem getting lpr to function though. I'm using the same printcap as before (where it worked) but am getting the following error: lpr: unable to get official name for local machine Looked at lpr, lpd, lpq man pages, as well as the Printing-HOWTO, and nothing jumped out at me. Hostname file contains my local hostname, and hosts.lpd contains the same local hostname (it originally didnt, and as a test I tried adding, but didnt help) If anyone could help, or point me in the right direction, it would be much appreciated. Thanks. Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v7)
As soon as I visited the logo page, I found myself surrounded with peguins and ducks: gkie, gkie, gkie! Foul play! Unless massive action is taken to avert this ominous development, the official image of Debian to the world, will be... a child-care center. This is a call for the anti-penguin patriots to visit the logo page and cast few ballots. Personally, I hate the Penguins, except the ones that are the outline. I it looks more professional but still gives the hint of the penguin/linux'ness There is one by Adam Stanny that I do really like, because it has the Debian GNU/Linux and the red outline of the Penguin. Some of the others he did aren't too great though. (I got to see them before the page went up, since he's in the Jacksonville Linux Users Group) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing from stable ie. rex-fixed does not work.
For the tex stuff, try adding /usr/X11R6/lib to the /etc/ld.so.conf file and run ldconfig. Then reconfigure in dselect. I didn't have those other problems you had. On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Robert Nicholson wrote: Stable isn't exactly stable. My dselect install session after deselecting inn and trn comes up with at depends on cron cron not installed groff depends on libg++27 libg++27 not installed and ends with libdb1-dev libgdbm1-dev smail biff elm mailx procmail textbin latex psnfrs All of these didn't install properly.. Does anybody know where dselect writes it's complete log? -- Proud supporter of Sun's 100% Pure Java Program. Write once, run anywhere. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package compilation
Hi, Thank you for the report, this is a real bug in kernel-package version 3.16: vi has, for some obscure reason, started to expand info to information and so on spontaneously. I generally catch it at it, but this time it snuck up and changed Feb to February in the changelog, causing dpkg-gencontrol to choke (and rightly so). A new version of kernel-package (edited with the one true editor) is being uploaded to Master. I do test make-kpkg, (I'm building a a new kernel with the 3.17 versions before shipping it off to to Master, but last time I was just twealing check-if-we're-kernel-sources in debian.rules, which shouldn't have broken anything (yeah, I know, famous last words ...) manoj -- Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DE200 network card
On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Colin Watt wrote: Thanks for the previous help. Does Debian (or any Linux) support a DE200 network card? I can't see it on the list. I have got the DE-250's to work (be carefull, do NOT put them at IO port 0x280) I think the DE-220 would only have porblems with PnP, but i have never tried at DE-200.. I *think I saw it listed in the ne.c module thought.. Jason -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux - Win NT 4.0 with Samba
On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Daniel Stringfield wrote: I'm having a problem. Not a big one, just annoying. Right now its setup to connect at bootup. (-er- login of console user) When it starts up, it tells me the password is incorrect, and then I enter it in manually. (I've deleted and readded to make sure I typed the correct password) It might be using your NT login password to connect to the share and not the password your type in? I have used SAMBA and Windows95 to mount my home directory and it seems to work okay.. Jason -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wanna trade secondary dns ?
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, mark david mcCreary wrote: I am a new ISP in Texas, with a minimal amount of traffic. I would like to trade secondary domain name service with another one man ISP for redundancy with network or computer problems. Please reply via private email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I get more than a couple of responses, I will circulate the names received amongst each other. Thanks mark Doesn't this A) almost equal to advertisiment? (Solicitation of something) and B) Have absolutely nothing to do with Debian? And isn't there a clause in the agreement letter that thou shalt not Spam? Vote to kick/ban. Will -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Epson Stylus 500 apsfilter
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Dany Dionne wrote: I suceeded in installing apsfilter, to print postcript files to my Epson Stylus 500 inkjet printer. I get a result but it seems that the printing is sloppy. To me, it looks like a really low resolution (300 dpi or less). Is there anyway to improve on this and to have easy control of the printing resolution on this 720 dpi printer??? This should be covered somewhere in the printing Howto. If it isn't, then you should check your filter to see what command lines it is calling ghostscript with. Man gs or whatever. I don't remember, the details, but the dpi is settable with gs (I'm assuming you're using gs to print...) Will -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I'd like to comment on the 6 disk system.
On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Robert Nicholson wrote: I'm in favour of this because I think it's the only distribution that lets me install in the following way. Other well know distributions don't let me get a kernel up an running from scratch without needing another installation medium. This allows me to create my partitions and then extract the mirrored dat archive off tape and then point deselect at one of my partitions. I really liked that too, but in my case I just installed the six disks, chuckled to myself as I realized the network was working and then FTP'd the bits I wanted to install from ftp.debian.org ; I can't wait for the rumored new install method that has all the disk drivers possible as modules ; If I understand that would mean that the debian pre-built kernel package would not have support for millions of disk controller and I would not have to rebuild it to strip them out.. Jason -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help Tecra 720CDT and fixed boot disks...
Well it looks like we've got a boot disk problem again. I'm trying to boot from my rescue disk from the rex-fixed distribution from say last Thursday and even though I used this to install Debian on my desktop successfully. Something is very wrong with the Tecra. Basically it gets all the way through to the configuration of the network and I've selected _no_ because I'll use Dave Hinds PCMCIA_CS stuff. Anyway, it's constantly flashing. /tmp/dinstall.11 26 Syntax Error: Unterminated Quoted String. This I guess it what will happen whenever you say no to are you connected to a network. Anybody? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/include/linux, /usr/include/asm, ...
Hi, I'll reverse the question: why are you using the links? The links are ignored anyway while compiling the kernel, so that's not it. However, you may totally confuse some other program (during compilation) that does not expect changes that are made in the kernel includes. You see, changes may be made in kernel headers in concert with other include files, which have not been upgraded, files that are not required for kernel builds, but may be required for package XYZ. So, what else are the links good for? Most programs do not (and should not) depend on kernel version specific api's; and the handful that do should ask for and include -I/usr/src/linux anyway. Please also see the canned response below. manoj The headers were included in libc5-dev after a rash of very buggy alpha kernel releases (1.3.7* or something like that) that proceeded to break compilations, etc. Kernel versions are changed far more rapidly than libc is, and there are higer chances that people install a custom kernel than they install custom libc. The kernel headers used to make sense exporting to user space, but the user space thing has grown so much that it's really not practical any more. And technically, the symlinks really aren't very good. As of glibc, the kernel headers will really be _kernel_ headers, and user level includes are user level includes, because it is no longer possible to try to synchronize the libc and the kernel the way it used to be. The symlinks have been a bad idea for at least a year now, and the problem is just how to get rid of them gracefully. The _only_ reason for the symlinks is to immediately give access to new features in the kernel when those happen. New ioctl numbers etc etc. That was an overriding concern early on: the kernel interfaces expanded so rapidly even in normal areas that having the synchronization that symlinks offered was a good thing. However, the kernel interfaces aren't really supposed to change all that quickly any more, and more importantly: the technical users know how to fix things any way they want, so if they want a new ioctl number to show up they can actually edit the header files themselves, for example. But having separation is good for the non-technical user, because there are less surprises and package dependencies. Add to that the fact that few programs really need the more volatile elements of the header files (that is, things that really change from kernel version to kernel version), [before you reject this, consider: programs compiled on one kernel version usually work on other kernels]. So, it makes sense that a set of headers be provided from a known good kernel version, and that is sufficient for compiling most programs, (it also makes the compile time environments for programs on debian machines a well known one, easing the process of dealing with problem reports), the few programs that really depend on cutting edge kernel data structures may just use -I/usr/src/linux/include (provided that kernel-headers or kernel-source exists on the system). Most programs, even if they include linux/something.h, do not really depend on the version of the kernel, as long as the kernel versions are not too far off, they will work. And the headers provided in libc5-dev are just that. libc5-deb is uploaded frequently enough that it never lags too far behind the latest released kernel. There are two different capabilities which are the issue, and the kernel-packages and libc5-dev address different ones: a) The kernel packages try to provide a stable, well behaved kernel and modules, and may be upgraded whenever there are significant advances in those directions (bug fixes, more/better module support, etc). These, however, may not have include files that are non-broken as far as non-kernel programs are concerned, and the quality of the development/compilation environment is not the kernel packages priority (Also, please note that the kernel packages are tied together, so kernel-source, headers, and image are produced in sync) b) Quality of the development/compilation environment is the priority of libc5-dev package, and it tries to ensure that the headers it provides would be stable and not break non-kernel programs. This assertion may fail for alpha kernels, which may otherwise be perfectly stable, hence the need for a different set of known-good kernel include files. -- Marriage is a three ring circus: The engagement ring, the wedding ring, and the suffering. Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install from CD
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the Cheapbytes Debian 1.2 CD. It has base1_2.tgz and the kernel and the root.bin image on it. Could someone go through the process of installing without any floppies? I think i know how to boot with loadlin and get to the point of logging in. I can also make the link from base.tgz to /tmp/ ok. How should I deal with the problem of the install asking me to insert floppies along the way (like DRV)? Please note that this is only a though experiment. I haven't tried this since i already have debian installed. I just would like to understand how to do this for if when I next need to install. Floppyless install would be very convenient. I don't believe a totally floppy-less install is possible. You need something to boot into. I suppose it is possible to boot into a UMSDOS filesystem from DOS or whatever through loadlin, (I've never installed a UMSDOS fs so I don't know any of the details on how to set one up). When base asks you for floppies, well, I suppose you could simply dd the image onto a temporary directory by hand, and then hack the install script to look in those directories for the necessary files, or if the install script merely dds the install floppies simply dd the images directly onto your Linux partition (again, I have no idea about the details here or if it can be done). I think this is a pretty awkward way of installing Linux, since you need to create a linux fs for installation in an existing DOS/Windows/whatever partition, and I'm not even sure if you can do this in any other partition other than DOSWindows. An alternative is to make the CD-ROM bootable. Modern BIOSes can now boot from a cdrom, so this would involve creating a FS onto a CD-ROM that resembles the Debian install tree and a live kernel image on the CD-ROM. I have NO idea what format the CD-ROM would have to be burned in, probably ext2. I don't know if iso9660 + rockridge will work, and I'm not even sure you can dd the zImage properly onto a CD-ROM. (Probably it's a no brainer, but I can't say until I've done it before...) Since people have been able to install whole live Linux systems on Zip drives (I think you can make it even bootable if you have the SCSI version without floppy) I see no real barriers other than time and cost that prevent people from making this sort of CD. And I think it would be tres cool. :) (imagine this plus a 2.2.x kernel in the future that supports standard PnP devices... no hassle Linux installation with one CD.) Will -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DOSEMU
I am installing DOSEMU and am running Win 95 on a seperate partition. When I booted the A disk with dos -A, DOSEMU worked just fine, but then when I typed: fdisk /mbr sys c: I got the message: Incorrect DOS version. I assume that this is because I am running Win 95 DOS. Would it change anything if I created the floppy disk on a machine running DOS 6.2, or does it matter since I'm running Win95. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks a lot, Jeff Hanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weird! My network turns itself off on bootup! Why?
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, trio wrote: wd io=0x280 irq=5 This loads the driver module at boot time for my wd8003 card - they're ... Is there a syntax listing for the /etc/modules file somewhere? I'm running a 3c509. command line options for modules vary depending on what module is being loaded. many of them take an 'io=' and an 'irq=' option. check the notes in the linux kernel source: /usr/src/linux/Documentation (you must have the kernel source installed to do this, of course). also, check the source code for the individual drivers - options are quite often NOT documented and the only way to find out about them is to read the source. Thanks for the pointers. I'll have to look into it. Any idea what i'd need? Right now, mine says: #auto 3c509 sg What do those things mean? OK, you're loading the 3c509 module and the scsi generic module... looks like my guess was wrong. The 3c509 module can be given io= and irq= options in /etc/modules (or in /etc/conf.modules) Wow. Now i see a /etc/conf.modules! I was looking for all the *.conf files, but didn't see that one. On the other hand, there's no man page for that either. Try removing the '#' from the '#hash' line. See if that makes any difference. What #hash line? here's something for you to try. 1. run 'lsmod' to list all loaded modules. make sure that 3c509 is listed. e.g. (from one of my systems - yours will vary a bit) # lsmod Module:#pages: Used by: isofs 51 sr_mod 41 serial 81 lp 20 sound 250 nfs 136 appletalk 411 ip_alias 11 wd 21-- my wd8003 module 8390 2[wd]0-- the 8390 module is used by the wd8003 module Excellent. I didn't know about that one either. 2. run 'ifconfig eth0' to display interface configuration details. make sure that your ethernet interface is configured properly. e.g. # ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:C0:0A:44:A5 inet addr:203.16.167.2 Bcast:203.16.167.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/241 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1501003 errors:5 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:1269427 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Interrupt:5 Base address:0x290 Memory:d-d2000 This one is fine. 3. run 'cat /proc/ioports' to see what I/O ports are in use in your system # cat /proc/ioports 0: 166488335 timer 1:1601282 keyboard 2: 0 cascade 3:4802968 + serial 5:2694949 WD8003-old --- here's my wd8003 7: 3653 sound blaster 8: 1 + rtc 12:1141666 + 53c7,8xx 13: 1 math error 14:3335560 + ide0 4. run 'cat /proc/interrupts' to see what IRQs are in use: e.g. # cat /proc/interrupts 0: 166488335 timer 1:1601282 keyboard 2: 0 cascade 3:4802968 + serial 5:2694949 WD8003-old --- here's my wd8003 7: 3653 sound blaster 8: 1 + rtc 12:1141666 + 53c7,8xx 13: 1 math error 14:3335560 + ide0 your 3c509 should should be listed in both /proc/ioports and /proc/interrupts. Make sure that the irq interrupt are correct. Two more i didn't know about! Is there a book about administration or networking that teaches these things? I read a few books a couple of years ago and those tools were not mentioned. 5. wait for the problem to occur again. 6. repeat the tests above. compare differences. Excellent idea. also, try to determine under what circumstances the ethernet configuration is lostis it at a certain time of day? is it when the network card is receiving/transmitting a lot of traffic? is it when the network card is idle for some time? is it when the system is under a heavy load? is it after you run a certain program? Well, despite the fact that i'm getting duplicates of all the e-mail to the debian-users list, you may not have seen the one that says i fixed this. It only happens when booting. I created an S14network which restarted things, but then it was still turned off. So someone else proposed it and i changed it to S98network and now the timing works. The network comes up (as noted by a ping from another machine), then it goes down and then the S98 kicks in and it
ifconfig and dropped packets
IFCONFIG: (tokenring card/network) I'm getting dropped packets in the RX section. What does it mean, and what should I do about it ? Thanks, Matthew -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
scanners
Hi All Recently I bought a new scanner from ScanTak. It seems to work great in Windos 3.1. The Manual says it should work with any TWAIN compliant application software. (of course they are talking about windoz here) Are there any debian packages for scanners (TWAIN compliant) avalable? If not will there be any work in developing such packages/drivers in the future? Thanx for any info regarding this :) -Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
adduser
hi just wondering.. i have tried to use --force-badname with adduser without success. Does it require a recompile of adduser to work? adduser --force-badname macquarrie The user name must be less than 9 characters this doesn't seem to work :/ -Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What package is nfsd in?
I think my rex-fixed/updates problems are responsible for the lack of any mention of netstd_nfs. Since I've installed Debian before I'm familar with the need to uncomment mountd/nfsd etc... Well that use to be the case. Could it be that this package resides in rex-updates at the moment? This raises another point. I find it rather troubling that dselect just ignored the missing required/important packages that would have been in rex-updates but in my system weren't present by of the order I chose to mirror things. I don't remember any serious warnings or anything ... I would like to see flashing lights if required/important are missing. Perhaps I'm just wrong but that's certainly how things were for other packages like libc5 etc etc that are in updates. Note: all of this is my problem but I could have used a little help :-) Anybody? I'll list here my dpkg --get-selections and I'd like to know if anybody can see anything seriously missing from a full installation that just ignored inn and trn adduser install ae install at install base-files install base-passwd install bashinstall bc install biffinstall bin86 install binutilsinstall bison install bsdmainutilsinstall bsdutilsinstall cpioinstall cpp install croninstall cvs install dc install debianutils install dialog install diffinstall dnsutilsinstall dpkginstall dpkg-ftpinstall dvipsk install e2fsprogs install ed install electric-fence install elm install elvis install emacs install fdflush install fileinstall fileutils install findutils install flexinstall fvwm-common install fvwm2 install gcc install gdb install getty install gimp-smotif install gpm install grepinstall groff install gzipinstall hostnameinstall iamerican install ibritishinstall infoinstall ispell install jdk-apidocs install jdk-common install jdk-demoinstall jdk-static install kbd install kernel-source-2.0.27install kpathseainstall latex install ldsoinstall lessinstall libc4 install libc5 install libc5-dev install libdb1 install libdb1-dev install libelf0 install libg++27install libg++27-devinstall libgdbm1install libgdbm1-devinstall libjpeg6a
Adaptec 2482 versus Debian 1.2.5
Perhaps this is old news, but I thought I'd pass it on just in case. I recently upgraded to linux kernel 2.0.27 (using Debian 1.2.5) from linux 2.0.7. The distribution kernel image panicked at boot: right after the (normal) scsi bus reset it generated a spurious interrupt and never regained its composure. My next step (after rebooting 2.0.7 and watching fsck work) was to compile a custom kernel with support for the Adaptec controller in the kernel. This booted fine. The important difference I can think of between the distribution kernel and my custom kernel is that the distribution kernel likely loads the scsi driver as a module (after booting part way from a RAM disk), whereas my custom kernel compiles the scsi driver into the kernel. I understand that a generic distribution kernel should load unusual drivers and options as modules to keep the size of the kernel manageable. I guess there needs to be a work-around when touchy hardware (e.g. scsi controllers) fails to work with a module-loaded driver. Danny Heap, UCSF, California St., Room 102, SF CA, 94118 [EMAIL PROTECTED], voice: (415) 476-8910, fax: (415) 476-1508 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here's what dselect silently ignored.
I think netstd is why I have no nfs. Well, like I said. I found it rather worrying that dselect _silently_ ignored these. Packages libc5_5.4.20-1.deb Packages.gz libg++27-dev_2.7.2.1-6.deb adduser_2.13.deb libg++27_2.7.2.1-6.deb aout-gcc_2.7.2.1-4.deblocalebin_5.4.20-1.deb base-files_1.2.4.deb login_1.45a-3.deb boot-floppies_1.2.4.deb maelstrom_1.4.3-L2.0.4-1.deb cpp_2.7.2.1-4.deb makedev_1.5-4.deb cron_3.0pl1-38.debman2html_1.5-9.deb csh_5.26-8.debman_2.3.10-17.deb diald_0.14-9.deb mgetty-docs_1.0.0-1.deb doc-debian_1.4-0.deb mgetty-fax_1.0.0-1.deb doc-linux_97.01-2.deb mgetty_1.0.0-1.deb dpkg-dev_1.4.0.7.deb netstd_2.09-2.deb dpkg_1.4.0.7.deb perl-base_5.003.07-6.deb ee_126.1.89-3.deb perl-debug_5.003.07-6.deb findutils_4.1-14.deb perl-suid_5.003.07-6.deb freelip_1.0-2.deb perl_5.003.07-6.deb g77_0.5.19-2.deb sendmail_8.8.5-1.deb gcc_2.7.2.1-4.deb smartlist_3.10-8.deb getty_1.45a-3.deb sysklogd_1.3-12.deb gforth_0.2.0-1.debtcsh_6.06-10.deb hpscanpbm_0.3a-4.deb trn_3.6-9.deb hwtools_0.2-4.deb vgrind_5.7-9.deb kernel-headers-2.0.27_2.deb wu-ftpd_2.4-27.deb kernel-image-2.0.27_2.deb xemeraldia_0.3-7.deb kernel-source-2.0.27_2.debxfig_3.1.4b-6.deb ldso_1.8.8-1.deb xpm4.7-dev_3.4g-9.deb libc5-dbg_5.4.20-1.debxpm4.7_3.4g-9.deb libc5-dev_5.4.20-1.debzlib1-dev_1.0.4-6.deb libc5-pic_5.4.20-1.debzlib1_1.0.4-6.deb I fixed some of these by hand by putting the correct links in place. But remember because rex-fixed didn't have the links (my fault) meant that there couldn't have been old versions seen either right so dselect did just ignore these without flashing lights. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Memory leak in 1.2.6?
Joe Piche writes: - I have a big problem with the latest debian distribution (2.6?). - I find that it will begin to swap like crazy after awhile. - This problem was not in the debian I was running before. - - My system is a: - 486 SX/25, 4 MB ram, 645 MB maxtor ESDI drive w/ Ultrastor 12F - controller, CGA vid, and a Novell ne-2000 Plus-3 ethernetcard.The swap - is 20 MB. 4M is a bit lean for a modern system. The kernel is probably 1M+, and that's all unswappable, which leaves 3M or less for daemons and other programs. dselect takes up 1.2M when it's first started up, and probably more if you're doing any work at all. One thing that might help is compiling your own kernel and configuring it to include exactly what you need, but I'd recommend getting at least another 4M if you want to do anything useful with your machine. -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ Life is too important to take seriously. -- Corky Siegel -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X won't start....keeps jumping back to XDM.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Cinege) writes: I just did a fresh install of 1.2.5. The everything thing seemed to instll fine. The XFree setup went smooth. When I boot up I get XDM. After I log in the screen changes for a second, then jumps back to XDM. Add /usr/X11R6/lib to your /etc/ld.so.conf. Then run ldconfig. Icky old bug. :( - -- Brought to you by the letters I and Q and the number 2. Tahiti is not in Europe. -- Sneakers Ben Gertzfield http://www.imsa.edu/~wilwonka/ Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQBVAwUBMwlRzvTlx5Rynzi5AQFaswH/UBQEwXSGUcPM/jmzcpvXTBBynH/DZ1+G 6NSbI0RcwgbFDQR7EYJN747iCqVY5nIHITJKLCHujfaddM3HCt+Bng== =t+R1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do they burn CD's?
If you are locking for a nice GUI to burn your own CD's you can use X-CD-Roast, it has a lot of options, I found it very usefull for me! http://www.rz.fh-muenchen.de/home/ze/rz/services/projects/xcdroast/e_overview.html It's a really long URL, isn't it? su philipp -- - Ph. Grau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technische FH Wildau Wildau, Brandenburg, Germany -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's wrong with Debian User List
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Mikael Hallendal wrote: Hi! I have a question. The same messages are dropping in over and over again. I've got the same messages for about 25 times now. Me too!!! The reason i'm replying with a me too is because i thought it was something i did on my end. I'm glad to hear it's not just me. Does anybody remember how to get somebody to fix this? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls colors gone after upgrade
These are the commands I use in my /etc/profile .. # set up color-ls environment variables if [ $SHELL = /bin/zsh ]; then eval `dircolors -z` elif [ $SHELL = /bin/ash ]; then eval `dircolors -s` else eval `dircolors -b` fi # set color-ls alias's alias ls='ls --color=auto '; alias ll='ls -l'; alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical'; alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'; alias ols='/bin/ls'; This is using the latest debian 'fileutils_3.13-4.deb' packages. The 'color-ls' appears to have been replaced by the 'ls' command in the new package. Hope this helps Rowan On Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:48:37 EST Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: How can I get these back? Well, maybe reading the manpage for ls ? :-) Before (buzz, aka 1.1), the color ls what a separate package. Since rex, aka 1.2, the color stuff has been moved into the GNU fileutils. What you need to do is basically: .bashrc and/or .profile (or .cshrc or .zshrc, whatever): eval `dircolors` alias ls 'ls --color=auto' Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LILO and WIN NT
Franck LE GALL - STAGIAIRE A FT.CNET/LAB/FCI/PIH wrote: Hello, I had DOS and LINUX debian 1.2 installed on my system and it used to works perfectly. Recently, I have got WIN NT installed on another partition and LILO doesn't work anymore even if I run /usr/sbin/lilo on my linux system. I think this question has alreaduy been asked so coul you tell me where I could find the answer. Thanks Franck -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NT has clobbered your MBR. I'd suggesting booting from your rescue disk and reruning lilo. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[REVIEW] Linux in a Nutshell [was: Re: The LSL TriLinux2 CD?]
Hi John! I suppose others would be interested in such a reply as well therefore i've sent this to 'debian-user' too. I hope you don't mind breakage of the netiquette regarding email in this special case, ok? ;-) On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, John M. Rulnick wrote: I was thinking about buying Linux in a Nutshell when I read your comment. Can you summarize what you like about it? Do you also have Welsh and Kaufman's Running Linux? Are they similar? I have Welsh and Kaufman's Running Linux too but i don't like it very much as a reference book. Running Linux is good for the unexperienced newbie without any former Unix knowledge but not for those who are already there. Give it as a present to someone who needs to be convinced into using Linux and who needs basic guidance. For this it should be really great but for experienced users it is very much too superficial. I'm glad that here in Germany numerous original books for the advanced user about Linux are published which are clearly superior to Running Linux, which BTW also exists as a translation of the first edition here by the German O'Reilly branch. Linux in a Nutshell is a whole other story though. Check out the table of contents for this book and it's description at the O'Reilly web site http://www.ora.com;. It is one of those rare very well organized sites and you will easily find your way to this book's description page. It is by no means suitable for the beginner but as in the tradition of the Unix in a Nutshell line it is a rather complete reference to most commands available in a well set up GNU/Linux environment. It covers exclusively the GNU pendants of regular Unix commands and may therefore be useable for everyone running GNU tools in other Unix environments. I'll cite some sentences from the preface and the introduction because IMHO they are describing the book very well: [...] This book is a quick reference for the basic commands and features of the Linux operating system. As with other books in O'Reilly's in a Nutshell series, this book is geared toward users who know what they want to do and have some idea how to do it, but just can't remember the correct command or option. (p. iv) [...] This book will not tell you how to install and maintain a Linux system. For that you will need 'Running Linux', (...). (p. iv) [...] 'UNIX in a Nutshell' doesn't teach you UNIX -- it is, after all, a quick reference -- but novices as well as highly experienced users find it of great value. [...] It is also an eye-opener: it can make you aware of options that you never knew about before. (p. 3) [...] With 'Linux in a Nutshell', we have thoroughly updated and adapted 'UNIX in a Nutshell' for Linux. Not only that, we've produced a book that many other UNIX users will want too, because for the first time this reference work covers the tolls produced by the FSF for the GNU project. GNU tools are popular on a lot of UNIX systems, so you may be using them even if you don't run Linux. (p. 3) I've waited so much for such a book to come out that i even bought 'UNIX in a Nutshell' about one year ago although it doesn't come even close for lack of covering GNU tools. I was so fed up searching command parameters throughout various Linux books and initelligibly large man pages. 'Linux in a Nutshell' puts it all in one place. I definitely would buy it again! ;-) Regards, P. *8^) PS: I supposed the book still contains some errors which i have not detected being no Unix or Linux geek at all. Maybe someone more competent than myself could post a more in depth review? -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v7)
Daniel Stringfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As soon as I visited the logo page, I found myself surrounded with peguins and ducks: gkie, gkie, gkie! Foul play! No, Fowl play!! Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's wrong with Debian User List
I'm not seeing repeated messages here. Sometimes people get them if their site is accepting mail but not finishing the handshake for some reason. If it continues (or if someone else sees it) please get back to me. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How long should it take to extract 1GIG off Tape?
My Wangtek QIC 150 tape (an old 5110 ES drive) runs at a rate of 5MB/min, or 300MB/h, which should give 1GB in something near/below 4h (if the 250MB-tapes are changed fast enough). The streaming throughput should be limited from the tape, not the host. : I'm just checking but whenever I extract the contents of my mirrored : tapes it seems to take nearly all night to extract. At least 6 hours. : That doesn't seem right to me. Is the kernel configured to work with all : SCSI tape drives in an optimal manner? Is there the same kind of QIC : interpretation problem like under Solaris here? ie. stconf.c? -- Uni Wuppertal, FB Elektrotechnik, Tel/Fax: (0202) 439 - 3009 Dr. Andreas Wehler; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The LSL TriLinux2 CD?
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Paul Seelig wrote: On the other hand there is nothing better than a recently burned writable CD when you want it really uptodate and like being on the edge. But for the same price anybody could get a CheapBytes CD and a very good Linux book. Anybody has bought the new Linux in a ^^ Nutshell from O'Reilly? A really nice and useful book IMHO! I have the UNIX in a Nutshell book (Sys V and Solaris release). Other than a rather sneaky marketting ploy by O'Reilly (No, not all their books are up to snuff... if you want a case and point check out their C++ manuals or the GNU Utilities book, which is basically a reprint of stuff in a lot of other books) I see no reason why there ought to be another one of these quick ref manuals for Linux. The dozen or so commands that are different from Sys V and the lpr system are not worth whatever amount of money it is to get another book if you already own a the UNIX book, and although Linux newbies might benefit from the quick reference, often I think the man pages are much better. (That is, if you have man installed and working properly :) ) For the same money I'd get the Matt Welsh Running Linux book, which is in a 2nd edition and a lot of fun to read. Larry Wall's Perl book seems to be becoming the next KR, being popular amongst all programmers. The O'Reilly Xlib books need a heavy update (they should merge the R6 release notes into the books..). They are the most thorough, but don't seem to adress many of the modern tools for X GUIs, but I digress... Perhaps someone should convince them to write a chapter about Debian in one of their Linux boooks? After all, Debian, being a total volunteer effort and having been sanctioned by FSF ought to be mentioned... (Running Debian Linux?) Will -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do they burn CD's?
|What software does Cheapbytes and these other CD authoring firms use |under Linux to cut a CD? My guess would be 'mkisofs'. With mkisofs it's almost child's play to create a CD-ROM image. A subsequent 'cdwrite' will then make the CD. Also very easy to use. A welcome change from programs like 'Gear'. Just two command lines and go! -- Ronald van Loon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I am waiting as fast as I can! I want patience, and I want it *NOW*! - Bethany J. Parkhurst -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls colors gone after upgrade
On 17 Feb 1997, Michael Harnois wrote: .bashrc and/or .profile (or .cshrc or .zshrc, whatever): eval `dircolors` alias ls 'ls --color=auto' This would be wonderful if it were the correct answer. However, as we This IS the correct answer, WTF are you talking about? I've been using a similar alias in my startup scripts for months now. discussed just over a month ago on this list, the correct answer is not documented anywhere in the Debian packages. You can read the manpage for ls until hell freezes over and still not get color. The correct answer was provided by Herbert Xu: I man ls, one of the options is --color. This should've clued you in. Maybe your brain froze over... Yes indeed. And that means you need this resource line: XTerm*customization: -color Uh, this will only work in an Xterm. Did you just want it in JUST an Xterm? I don't have access to your original email. If this is the case you should've specified. Anyway, the above solution will also work on Xterms. They read the .bashrc by default (assuming you're running bash...). I also assume you can export the aliases (although I've never done so...) Stop confusing the populace. Will -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v7)
|Personally, I hate the Penguins, except the ones that are the outline. I |it looks more professional but still gives the hint of the |penguin/linux'ness Maybe we should call ourselves DepenGNUian Linux from now on. -- Ronald van Loon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I am waiting as fast as I can! I want patience, and I want it *NOW*! - Bethany J. Parkhurst -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lpr - help please!
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Rich Kolbush wrote: Hi, In moving to the 2.x.x kernel I decided to switch to Debian 1.2 from Redhat 2.1, and thus far am very happy with that decision. Thanks to all of you that have helped the Debian project, as it seems great! I'm having a problem getting lpr to function though. I'm using the same printcap as before (where it worked) but am getting the following error: lpr: unable to get official name for local machine I think that the lpr in Debian is broken. I had a similar problem, so I pulled lpr off of my Slack installation on another machine. Hopefully you can do the same. Will -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ungraceful shutdown
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, David L. Parsley wrote: Just HOW BAD is an ungraceful shutdown? I.e., when somebody just hits the power switch? Besides forcing an fsck, would fsck tell me if some file were corrupted? Yup. I've actually trashed parts of filesystems by accidental shutdowns, but this is rare. Usually fsck just updates the info on the fs (I have no idea what this means, updating the ext2 fs map? I've never delved into the ext2 filesystem.) Sometimes I'll lose files due to losing power...But since I don't have the error log, I can't tell you why. I've also screwed up the rdev info on the kernel this way too... (again, I can't say why... but when you have a power failure on your cpu I suppose all bets are off) Supposedly Linux polls the disk every so often, and syncs what it has in memory with what's on disk (that's why you have the buffers in memory). WIll -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package compilation
On 17 Feb 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thank you for the report, this is a real bug in kernel-package version 3.16: vi has, for some obscure reason, started to expand info to information and so on spontaneously. I generally catch it at it, ^^ vi appears to be reading ab (macro expansions) from a startup file, most likely .exrc or a systemwide version (I don't know if there is one, I suppose man vi). I'm not sure what you're doing, but most likeley it's getting the ab from somewhere.. (someone monkeying around with .exrc...) but this time it snuck up and changed Feb to February in the changelog, causing dpkg-gencontrol to choke (and rightly so). A new version of kernel-package (edited with the one true editor) is being uploaded to Master. I do test make-kpkg, (I'm building a a new kernel with the 3.17 versions before shipping it off to to Master, but last time I was just twealing check-if-we're-kernel-sources in debian.rules, which shouldn't have broken anything (yeah, I know, famous last words ...) manoj -- Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'at' command
Thanks to those that replied with a working answer. bash$ at 10:30 enter cdplay enter C-d (I did at least know this much). I was disappointed by the flood of RTFM, however. I couldn't find an example in the man pages, or Running Linux, or Unix in a Nutshell, where the command actually did anything. Just something like 'at now + 5 minute' without anything below. I shouldn't be surprised, but I thought a debian list would be different. I'll return to lurk mode. Mike. hmm does Red Hat have a mailing list or newsgroup? On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Mike Miller wrote: I'm sure this is trivial, but can someone give me an example of an at command that works? I tried at 10:30 cdplay It queued, and left the queue, but did not play. Thinking it was a path problem, I tried at 10:30 /usr/bin/cdplay and got backat: incomplete time Thanks, Mike. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DE200 network card
Colin Watt wrote: Thanks for the previous help. Does Debian (or any Linux) support a DE200 network card? I can't see it on the list. Colin Watt. Lecturer in Computer Applications School of Agriculture Food and Environment Cranfield University Silsoe Bedford MK45 4DT01525 863031 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't know about Debian, but assume it's similiar to Slackware. I have a few DE-100's and these are recognised by the NE drivers. If your card is not found then you could always put the card sig into the code and re-complie the kernel. This worked with my DE-001, but the card died. -- -- Alex Monaghan Network Support Analyst, Royal Mail Anglia London Rd, Stevenage, SG1 1AA, UK Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] STD 01438 767081 Postline5811 7081 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wanna trade secondary dns ?
I would like to trade secondary domain name service with another one man ISP for redundancy with network or computer problems. Doesn't this A) almost equal to advertisiment? (Solicitation of something) and B) Have absolutely nothing to do with Debian? And isn't there a clause in the agreement letter that thou shalt not Spam? I think that's a little harsh. This was a well meant message (or I felt so). Lets not scare people into not posting, however a slap on the wrist would be appropriate and if repeated... However you are right this message would receive a better audience on either: Linux-ISP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inet-Access:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Both are well known and easy to find. Adam. - Earthlight Communications Limited P.O. Box 5301 Adam Shand (fax) +64 3 477 5463 Dunedin, New Zealand Systems Manager(voice) +64 3 479 0303 http://www.earthlight.co.nz/larry/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marimba - Bongo - Debian ...
Hi *, recently I tried to install marimbas bongo on my Debian-Box. When I start 'bongo' I get: Unable to initialize threads: cannot find class java/lang/Thread I have installed jdk-common 1.0.2-4 and jdk-static 1.0.2-4. Are there any libs missing? Thx By Töns -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendmail
Hi! Is there anyone who has had problem with sendmail changing owner of the files in /var/spool/mail. I had a problem with some mails going in a loop on my local host so I looked around and found that the owner of my mail-file had changed from group mail to users. /Micke -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Debian on an IBM
Hi, I am having serious problem in having Debian recognize my hard disk properly. When launching fdisk I obtain the message The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 2484. This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems... [as a matter of fact, installation of LILO on the MBR fails] The disk is partitioned as Boot Begin Start End Blocks System /dev/hda1 * 1 1 163 82120+ Linux native /dev/hda2164 164 244 40824 Linux swap /dev/hda3245 245 1260 512064 Linux native /dev/hda4 1024 1261 2484 616896 Extended /dev/hda5 1024 1261 1870 307408+ Linux native /dev/hda6 1024 1871 2484 309424+ Linux native The (v)erify command on LILO gives me Warning: partition 3 overlaps partition 5. Warning: partition 3 overlaps partition 6. Warning: partition 5 overlaps partition 6. Logical partition 5 not entirely in partition 4 Logical partition 6 not entirely in partition 4 237946 unallocated sectors Besides, the disk is often detected as busy. I hope I might solve this particular problem by re-installing the kernel specifying a Triton hd. My computer is an IBM Pentium, model 330, 133Mhz, 16Mb/1222Mb, 256Kb cache, 384K Shadow ram. On booting the hard disk is recognized as hda: WDC AC21200H, 1222Mb w/128kB Cache LBA CHS=2484/16/63 The disk is a Triton II PIIX3 I disabled APM on BIOS. Please let me know wether anybody had similar problems with this settings, and wether I should provide you with more detailed information. By the way, I installed RedHat some time ago, and it worked for some weeks, then the disk crashed, I had it changed two days ago and switched to Debian, so there should be nothing wrong with the hardware... Thank you very much for help Gennaro Zezza [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lprng problems
I'm surprised at the big push towards lprng because it seems just as hard to configure, the documentation seems disorganised, etc. I am trying to configure the following; Server machine, debian 1.2, running normal lpr/lpd. (It would be converted to lprng if I thought that would help.) My workstation, debian bo-ish, running lprng. I want to print postscript and normal text from my machine. server has a special print queue ps which is available to me, which runs ghostscript etc as a filter. However I want to run the filters locally, because my workstation is a P166+ and the server is a 486-33 which takes ages to do the conversions. LPR admits that local filters aren't supported, but I thought one of lprng's advantages was support for this - but it's not in the manual pages or in the /usr/doc/lprng documentation. Using /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig and some editing, I created the following printcap; lp|bj20|bubblejet:\ :[EMAIL PROTECTED]:sd=/var/spool/lpd/bj20:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/usr/sbin/bj10e-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: However when I (as a user) run eg atp test.c | lpr, I get five pages of straight text, being the postscript, ie magicfilter has not been run. If I set :lp=/tmp/outputfile and touch /tmp/outputfile, printing anything fires up magic filter, which fires up ghostscript; but nothing ever appears in the output file, and ghostscript is just sitting around sleeping. I cannot imagine why this would be. Similar things happened when I was using my own filter (which just runs gs, assuming postscript); gs never saw any input apparently. I really have no idea how to fix this. Really, local filters aren't very hard with standard lpd; you just set up your queue to be filtered to print to /dev/null, and get the filter to direct its output to |lpr -Preal printer, where the real printer would send network output. This isn't exactly documented, but it makes sense. I can't say the same for lprng so far, and I can't even get this method to work. Argh! please help, Hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wrong permissions of /etc/rmtab?
The permissions of '/etc/rmtab' read -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 58 Feb 18 12:29 rmtab To my mind, this is wrong. They should be somethig like: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 58 Feb 18 12:29 rmtab Am I right? Any comments? Regards, Andree -- | Institute of Geophysics phone: +49 40 4123 4389 ANDREE LEIDENFROST | University of Hamburg fax: +49 40 4123 5441 Geophysicist | Bundesstrasse 55 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | D-20146 Hamburgwww: www.app-geoph.dkrz.de -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/include/linux, /usr/include/asm, ...
So, what else are the links good for? Most programs do not (and should not) depend on kernel version specific api's; and the handful that do should ask for and include -I/usr/src/linux anyway. Has anyone had any luck compiling (z)ftape 3.02 on debian, then? I've tried, but it (reasonably) requires current kernel headers, and despite adding the above to several Makefiles, it still does not look in /usr/src/linux first. Besides, the gcc manual page says: -I Append directory dir to the list of directories searched for include files., which implies that -I/usr/src/linux will be added to the very end of the search path, after /usr/include; ie this will really do nothing except for new (as opposed to updated) kernel header files. It certainly does not work for me. Hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's wrong with Debian User List
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Mikael Hallendal wrote: Hi! I have a question. The same messages are dropping in over and over again. I've got the same messages for about 25 times now. Me too!!! The reason i'm replying with a me too is because i thought it was something i did on my end. I'm glad to hear it's not just me. Does anybody remember how to get somebody to fix this? I found what was wrong. By some reason it was my sendmail that sent them over and over again. I think it was that. Anyway, either sendmail or exmh changed owener and permissions on my mailfile in /var/spool/mail. When I changed that there was no more problems. /Micke -- --- E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] HomePage : http://mds.mdh.se/~cel95mhl PGP-Key available from : http://mds.mdh.se/~cel95mhl or finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- pgp6eenUdf71N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Umsdos support?
Hi. I've posted this question here before and didn't receive a single reply. Hopefully I'm more lucky this time.. I want to install Debian to an Umsdos partition. The installation disks don't seem to allow me to do that. That's right. - Does Debian not support installing to umsdos partitions? - If not, is there a work around to get it working anyway? It is possible to fool the installation process roughly as follows: You need a DOS partition, say /dev/hda1, umssync, and perhaps other things (it's been a while). Replace the boot-floppy kernel with one that has FAT and UMSDOS compiled in. Create a directory 'linux' in the msdos fs on /dev/hda1 and umssync it. During the install process open the shell (alt f2) and: rm -rf /target mkdir /DOS mount -t umsdos /dev/hda /DOS ln -s /DOS/linux /target create a swap file and swapon Follow the rest of the installation procedure, but DO NOT run the make bootable option as LILO will fry the MSDOS boot sector if you are not careful. The /target system is not quite ready, make sure fstab is set up correctly (RW root partition and swap file set up OK). Modify /etc/init.d/boot so that the root partition is never remounted (mount seems very unhappy with pseudo roots). I've even created a small partition to install Debian to, installed the base disks, and copied everything to the umsdos partition (changing /etc/fstab to reflect the new partition). Then I compiled a kernel with umsdos support built-in and booted it with loadlin. Unfortunately, after a message of VFS: Mounted umsdos filesystem as root (or similar), the system hangs in an endless loop continuously reading the harddisk. You seem to have got most of the way. What messages does it give? As an alternative, you could try my modifications to the boot-floppies package to handle UMSDOS installs. There has just been a new boot-floppies release, so I'll have do some merging before I have a proper set of patches ready. Have a look at ftp://pootle.magd.cam.ac.uk/ if you are interested (patches against boot-floppies 1.2.5). In your other message you mentioned a ZIP drive, can't you format a disk as ext2? Or is that not a possibility for you? Giuliano. ps Do let me know how you get on with your UMSDOS install. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: minor DNS problem
Is the daemon named running? --Bob Andrew Spencer wrote: hi all, Sorry to come back to the list again. Just a little glitch really, but it has me stumped... I can't get IP name resolution working properly. (All I want to do is resolve IP addresses using an available nameserver.) I can connect to machines on the local ethernet fine, using numeric IP addresses (can't see outside the local domain, due to the firewall, but that's another story..). Also, I can connect using name instead of number for a couple of machines I put into /etc/hosts by hand. My /etc/host.conf file says order hosts,bind multi on and /etc/resolv.conf says search bath.ac.uk nameserver 138.38.32.3,138.38.32.46 I know the nameservers are ok, from doing nslookup - 138.38.32.3 So, looking in /etc/hosts for hostnames is working, and the local nameservers are working and reachable... But something somewhere is clearly not connecting... Can anyone suggest what? eternally grateful, ;) -- Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a dictionary for abbreviations like WTF?
Hi, I would like to resolve these many abbreviations today, as AKA (also known as) WTF (???) ... So, is there any appropriate dictionary? Thanks. Andreas. -- Uni Wuppertal, FB Elektrotechnik, Tel/Fax: (0202) 439 - 3009 Dr. Andreas Wehler; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do they burn CD's?
-- From: Robert Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: How do they burn CD's? Date: Monday, February 17, 1997 6:08 AM What software does Cheapbytes and these other CD authoring firms use under Linux to cut a CD? [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We use mkisofs and cdwrite with a yamaha 102 (about $600). Once you make the iso image you can mount it up using -loop and give it a try before you use cdwrite. Also you direct the output of mkisofs to a partition and mount this up without using -loop ( this is useful for testing out distributions like debian before we burn the CD) mkisofs -o /mnt/deb.iso -R -P lsl /mnt/distributions/debian cdwrite -s 2 -D /dev/sgc --yamaha /mnt/deb.iso If you don't have a CDROM burner but do have a 4mm or 8mm tape you can direct the output to the tape and send this off to the CDROM plant ... We did this for our first 5 or 10 CDs back when the burners were ~ $4000. -Dan Linux System Labs http://www.lsl.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's wrong with Debian User List
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: I'm not seeing repeated messages here. Sometimes people get them if their site is accepting mail but not finishing the handshake for some reason. If it continues (or if someone else sees it) please get back to me. I'm seeing it too. ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls colors gone after upgrade
William Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Feb 1997, Michael Harnois wrote: .bashrc and/or .profile (or .cshrc or .zshrc, whatever): eval `dircolors` alias ls 'ls --color=auto' This would be wonderful if it were the correct answer. However, as we This IS the correct answer, WTF are you talking about? I've been using a similar alias in my startup scripts for months now. How often do you use X? Your solution will work on the console, it will even print bold characters for special files with Xterms, but it wont do colour on my system. The Xresource mentioned below needs to be set. discussed just over a month ago on this list, the correct answer is not documented anywhere in the Debian packages. You can read the manpage for ls until hell freezes over and still not get color. The correct answer was provided by Herbert Xu: I man ls, one of the options is --color. This should've clued you in. Maybe your brain froze over... As far as I know Michael is correct on this one, man ls will tell you how to get ls to output the required terminal codes to send color, but you need to setup xterm to be able to displace them. BTW is maybe your brain froze over really necessary? I know Michael was a little flamey on his reply, but this seems a reaction to your orignal unwarranted, Read the man page you bloody fool, response. Yes indeed. And that means you need this resource line: XTerm*customization: -color Uh, this will only work in an Xterm. Did you just want it in JUST an Xterm? I don't have access to your original email. If this is the case you should've specified. Anyway, the above solution will also work on Xterms. They read the .bashrc by default (assuming you're running bash...). I also assume you can export the aliases (although I've never done so...) Like I said, your solution solves only half the problem in an xterm, I think Michael was probably aware of this and was suggesting the resource line *in addition* to the alias and eval. Now maybe you don't use X and maybe your upgrade path didnt present the problems others have had with xterms and color ls, but maybe you could allow for the possibility that not everyone has a mirror of your system setup? I'd prefer not to receive an abusive reply as abuse was not my intention and I apologise if you read things differently. Richard Jones. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Initial Installation
I am having some trouble writing the resq1440 disk to upgrade to Debian 1.2.3 from my existing Slackware system. I did read the installation manual, and got the message about disks - but now I have gone through a box or more of brand new Sony disks (not all from the same box) and am having a hard time believing that they are all bad. I got the CD from iConnect and tried to follow the directions - cd /cdrom/stable/disks-i386; ./make-disks This does not exist, so I changed to current and then ran dd if=resq1440.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 conv=sync; sync to create each disk. I have now created more than 2 dozen disks which will not boot. Am I doing something wrong? Is there any way I can get a decent set of disks made so that I can get with the Debian program? I would hate to stay with slackware...but at least I can install it. Thanks in Advance, Randy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux - Win NT 4.0 with Samba
Daniel Stringfield typed: I'm having a problem. Not a big one, just annoying. I'm running the Samba server to export my home directory to my Windows NT 4.0 workstation. I'm having problems when it comes up for my password. It's not accepting the password the first time, when I attach it as a drive. (ie, net use f: \\linuxbox\username) If this sounds like a NT problem.. well, don't flame me, just tell me. :) I found that there was a problem with samba with case sensitivity. For example, if your password was PassworD, then it would fail. But if your password was PASSWORD, then it would work. No other combination except all uppercase would work. This was from Windows for Workgroups attempting to log a user drive via samba. It wasn't a deb package but the bog standard one. - Craig -- // /\ | | | Craig Small VK2XLZ @home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ||==||===|==|=| [44.136.13.17] @play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\ \/ | | | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: super command
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Igor Grobman wrote: If it's in the new source format, then you can just get the .orig file, and that will be the original source. If it's in the old format, I think you can apply the diff to the .tar.gz file, and that should give you the source. Well, if it comes to that I can de-debianize it. If I have to, I would rather find the original source, rather than regenerate it myself. The ftp site mentioned in the README for the source does not contain the directory it says the super source is in, and I didn't turn anything up with Archie, or Web searches, or anything. Archie only returned the debian ftp sites. If no changes have been made to the source that would cause it to behave incorrectly under AIX I wouldn't mind using the debianized source, as according to the debian.changes file (Or something in there), it fixes a couple of bugs. I just use debian though, and I haven't been following things really closely, so I really don't know what all kinds of changes they make to these packages when they Debianize them. After debianization, is the source code generally still portable, or has changes been made that make it Linux, or even Debian Linux specific? That's kind of what I'm hoping to find out. If I can, I'll just edit the Makefile for the AIX options and use the debianized version if it's been debugged further than the original source. Shawn Asmussen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/include/linux, /usr/include/asm, ...
On Feb 18, Hamish Moffatt wrote So, what else are the links good for? Most programs do not (and should not) depend on kernel version specific api's; and the handful that do should ask for and include -I/usr/src/linux anyway. Has anyone had any luck compiling (z)ftape 3.02 on debian, then? I've tried, but it (reasonably) requires current kernel headers, and despite adding the above to several Makefiles, it still does not look in /usr/src/linux first. Besides, the gcc manual page says: Like most GNU manpages, it says: refer to the info version for up to date / more complete information. There you find -isystem dir Add a directory to the beginning of the second include path, marking it as a system directory, so that it gets the same special treatment as is applied to the standard system directories. -nostdinc Do not search the standard system directories for header files. Only the directories you have specified with `-I' options (and the current directory, if appropriate) are searched. See section Options for Directory Search, for information on `-I'. By using both `-nostdinc' and `-I-', you can limit the include-file search path to only those directories you specify explicitly. Which should provide you with the control needed. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Epson Stylus 500 apsfilter
I don't use apsfilter but magic-filter but I think the mechanism is the same for all printcap filters. In my case the filter script is specified in /etc/printcap. Take a look in the script and you will find out how it call ghostscript. Then you can modify the script to change or add parameters to the gs call. To find out the parameters for the Epson Stylus take a look in /usr/doc/gs/devices.txt and search for `Stylus'. I have a Stylus 200 (cheap !!! 240$ CAN ~ 180$ US). The printout is excellent, and usually better with ghostscript than with the Win95 driver. The result is best with (La)TeX documents. Remember to turn on micro-weave when print color. Text font is really smooth in color mode when micro-weave is turned on. Good luck. -- = Linh Dang Nortel Technology Member of Scientific StaffSpeech Recognition Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] = -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian installation
Sorry for the second post of the day, but I am really desperate. I have just obtained a new hard disk, a Western Digital AC21200 2484cyl, 16heads, 63 spt, and I re-installed Debian passing the hd geometry at boot time. I keep having the same problem, eg fdisk will report warnings about the disk being too large and partitions overlapping. What should I do? Any hints? Gennaro Zezza [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'at' command
On Tue, Feb 18 1997, Mike Miller wrote: Thanks to those that replied with a working answer. bash$ at 10:30 enter cdplay enter C-d (I did at least know this much). I was disappointed by the flood of RTFM, however. I couldn't find an example in the man pages, or Running Linux, or Unix in a Nutshell, where the command actually did anything. Just something like 'at now + 5 minute' without anything below. I shouldn't be surprised, but I thought a debian list would be different. I'll return to lurk mode. I apologize if you took my citing of the man page as RTFM. Please attribute it to my poor English. Both replies appearing on the list gave you working examples, pure RTFMs must have been in private email. I'd be embarrassed if any of those came from project members. Mike. hmm does Red Hat have a mailing list or newsgroup? I think so, but why are you asking - some sort of (not so) subtle threat? That doesn't look like good style either. -- Siggy -- Siggy Brentrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = C8 95 66 8C 75 7E 10 A2 05 61 C7 7F 05 B6 A4 DF -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/include/linux, /usr/include/asm, ...
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: So, what else are the links good for? Most programs do not (and should not) depend on kernel version specific api's; and the handful that do should ask for and include -I/usr/src/linux anyway. Has anyone had any luck compiling (z)ftape 3.02 on debian, then? I've tried, but it (reasonably) requires current kernel headers, and despite adding the above to several Makefiles, it still does not look in /usr/src/linux first. Besides, the gcc manual page says: -I Append directory dir to the list of directories searched for include files., which implies that -I/usr/src/linux will be added to the very end of the search path, after /usr/include; ie this will really do nothing except for new (as opposed to updated) kernel header files. It certainly does not work for me. Actually, the correct choice is -I/usr/src/linux/include/ And Include paths that are put on the command line get used before any standard paths. I use this to my benefit many times. You have to do this to compile recent modutils, any kernel modules, etc... Works great if you get the right directory. Good Luck, Erv ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/include/linux, /usr/include/asm, ...
Hi, Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish Has anyone had any luck compiling (z)ftape 3.02 on debian, Hamish then? I've tried, but it (reasonably) requires current kernel Hamish headers, and despite adding the above to several Makefiles, it Hamish still does not look in /usr/src/linux first. Hamish Besides, the gcc manual page says: -I Append directory dir Hamish to the list of directories searched for include files., which Hamish implies that -I/usr/src/linux will be added to the very end of Hamish the search path, after /usr/include; ie this will really do Hamish nothing except for new (as opposed to updated) kernel header Hamish files. It certainly does not work for me. Are you sure? Also the manual page warn to look at the info pages, as so: WARNING The information in this man page is an extract from the full documentation of the GNU C compiler, and is limited to the meaning of the options. This man page is not kept up to date except when volun teers want to maintain it. If you find a discrepancy between the man page and the software, please check the Info file, which is the authoritative documentation. So, checking the authoritative documentation, we have the following: File: gcc.info, Node: Directory Options, Next: Target Options, Prev: Link Op\ tions, Up: Invoking GCC Options for Directory Search These options specify directories to search for header files, for libraries and for parts of the compiler: `-IDIR' Add the directory DIRECTORY to the head of the list of directories to be searched for header files. This can be used to override a system header file, substituting your own version, since these directories are searched before the system header file directories. If you use more than one `-I' option, the directories are scanned in left-to-right order; the standard system directories come after. `-I-' Any directories you specify with `-I' options before the `-I-' option are searched only for the case of `#include FILE'; they are not searched for `#include FILE'. If additional directories are specified with `-I' options after the `-I-', these directories are searched for all `#include' directives. (Ordinarily *all* `-I' directories are used this way.) In addition, the `-I-' option inhibits the use of the current directory (where the current input file came from) as the first search directory for `#include FILE'. There is no way to override this effect of `-I-'. With `-I.' you can specify searching the directory which was current when the compiler was invoked. That is not exactly the same as what the preprocessor does by default, but it is often satisfactory. `-I-' does not inhibit the use of the standard system directories for header files. Thus, `-I-' and `-nostdinc' are independent. Also: `-include FILE' Process FILE as input before processing the regular input file. In effect, the contents of FILE are compiled first. Any `-D' and `-U' options on the command line are always processed before `-include FILE', regardless of the order in which they are written. All the `-include' and `-imacros' options are processed in the order in which they are written. `-idirafter DIR' Add the directory DIR to the second include path. The directories on the second include path are searched when a header file is not found in any of the directories in the main include path (the one that `-I' adds to). `-iprefix PREFIX' Specify PREFIX as the prefix for subsequent `-iwithprefix' options. `-iwithprefix DIR' Add a directory to the second include path. The directory's name is made by concatenating PREFIX and DIR, where PREFIX was specified previously with `-iprefix'. If you have not specified a prefix yet, the directory containing the installed passes of the compiler is used as the default. `-iwithprefixbefore DIR' Add a directory to the main include path. The directory's name is made by concatenating PREFIX and DIR, as in the case of `-iwithprefix'. `-isystem DIR' Add a directory to the beginning of the second include path, marking it as a system directory, so that it gets the same special treatment as is applied to the standard system directories. `-nostdinc' Do not search the standard system directories for header files. Only the directories you have specified with `-I' options (and the current directory, if appropriate) are searched. *Note Directory Options::, for information on `-I'. By
Re: Is there a dictionary for abbreviations like WTF?
On Feb 18, Dr. Andreas Wehler wrote I would like to resolve these many abbreviations today, as So, is there any appropriate dictionary? Thanks. http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/cgi-bin/acronym http://thorplus.lib.purdue.edu/reference/index.html Of course, YMMV WRT completeness and accuracy. HTH, Ray - who loves YKYHBHTLW posts -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lprng problems
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm surprised at the big push towards lprng because it seems just as hard to configure, the documentation seems disorganised, etc. Well, I'll agree that the documentation isn't a work of art, but I, personally, have found it no harder to configure than lpr. However I want to run the filters locally, because my workstation is a P166+ and the server is a 486-33 which takes ages to do the conversions. LPR admits that local filters aren't supported, but I thought one of lprng's advantages was support for this - but it's not in the manual pages or in the /usr/doc/lprng documentation. It is in there. It's got its own separate file, in fact---README.bouncequeues.gz Now I'll also give you that this isn't a terribly good name. I really have no idea how to fix this. Really, local filters aren't very hard with standard lpd; you just set up your queue to be filtered to print to /dev/null, and get the filter to direct its output to |lpr -Preal printer, where the real printer would send network output. This isn't exactly documented, but it makes sense. I can't say the same for lprng so far, and I can't even get this method to work. Argh! If you read the bouncequeue document, you'll see that it really _is_ a piece of cake. Here's the entry I use: lcml_techservices1|Technical Services LaserJet 4Plus:\ :[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\ :if=/usr/bin/ljet4-filter:\ :lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\ :[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\ :mx#0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote:\ :sh: That took me about 5 minutes, after I found the proper document---I'm suprised you didn't run across it. Mike. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy ways of configuring Debian
On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Alexander Gieg wrote: I think this is a great idea. LinuxConf makes the configuration far easy for beginners. Let's think about this... I am a Linux beginner, and I find dselect confusing. If this will make dselect less confusing, then it's a *great* idea! I'll check out their web page to see what it's all about. The base Debian install (from disks) was great, but it's going to take a while before I am comfortable with dselect. -=- Daniel Robbins School of Medicine Computer Services University of New Mexico [email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ps2 mouse is sluggish with gpm
I'm running Debian Linux (1.2.6) kernel 2.0.27 with gpm (v10) and I find my mouse to be very sluggish. It moves well within X Windows. Any ideas? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DE200 network card
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Alex Monaghan wrote: Colin Watt wrote: Does Debian (or any Linux) support a DE200 network card? I can't see it on the list. Don't know about Debian, but assume it's similiar to Slackware. I have a few DE-100's and these are recognised by the NE drivers. If your card is I don't know about NE drivers, but the DE200 is covered by the depca driver, see /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/depca.c for details. I found that probing a DE100 card with cdrom drivers etc. kills it. I don't know if DE200s are the same. I had to compile a kernel on another (3c509) machine to be able to use the ones with DE100 cards at all. -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What's the state of X in rex-fixed?
I did not have a problem using XF86Setup with my Thinkpad 365XD which uses a PS/2 mouse as its 'trackpoint.' As I remember it, it was pretty easy to choose the mouse using keystrokes. Paul On 16-Feb-97 Robert Nicholson wrote: Is this 3.2 or 3.1.2G or worse? Also why is it I always have to edit the TCL for XF86Setup so that it uses a PS/2 mouse by default? You cannot select all the options ie. you cannot get to the PS/2 button when it's configured as a serial mouse. with the keyboard ie. you need to use the mouse to configure the mouse .. trying moving a PS/2 mouse when it's configured as a serial device. -- Proud supporter of Sun's 100% Pure Java Program. Write once, run anywhere. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Paul Rightley DX-3 Hydrodynamics, MS P940 Los Alamos National LaboratoryLos Alamos, NM 87545 Phone: (505)667-0460 Fax: (505)665-3359 Email: Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to point dselect for Iconnect CD ?
On 15-Feb-97 Philippe Troin wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:08:39 EST Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Just finally got my shiny new Iconnect CD. Now I'm ready to upgrade. Qell not exactly. dselect doesn't sem to like anything that I tell it. My CD is /dev/hdc, mounted on /cdrom. What am I supposed to tell dselect when it prompts for distribtion Top Level ? Try just `.' or `Debian-1.2'. Note that the CD has to be unmounted when you start dselect (dselect mounts it somewhere under /var/lib/dpkg). I have gotten IConnect CD's to work when mounted. I then point dselect to the top of the CD filesystem (in the case under consideration, /cdrom). Paul -- Paul Rightley DX-3 Hydrodynamics, MS P940 Los Alamos National LaboratoryLos Alamos, NM 87545 Phone: (505)667-0460 Fax: (505)665-3359 Email: Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to rebuild available file ?
On 15-Feb-97 Philippe Troin wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:48:18 EST Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I just got a new CD from Iconnect. I ran Update availble and now I have a problem. An simple atemp to do dpkg -i package_name returns the folowing erro: dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 13771 package `zlib1': empty value for version What can I do to rebuild this file correctly ? Just choose [U]pdate in the dselect menu. It will rebuild an available file. I usually got this error when doing an update (or at least right after updating). It seems to be the consensus on debian-user to do something like a 'dpkg --clear-avail' and then upgrade dpkg to the one currently in stable. Paul -- Paul Rightley DX-3 Hydrodynamics, MS P940 Los Alamos National LaboratoryLos Alamos, NM 87545 Phone: (505)667-0460 Fax: (505)665-3359 Email: Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1.1 dselect stuff
Greetings, I went over to a friends house last night and fired up his seldom- used Debian Linux 1.1 partition to install gs and ghostview for him. I thought I'd give a list of quirks I noticed even though a lot of them are probably fixed. 1) Deselect detected the new packages and attempted to upgrade everything. I actually thought this was kind of neat at first until I realized how long 82MB of stuff takes to download over a 28.8 link. 2) A bug in dpkg couldn't deal with zlib1's Version: 1:4-6 line. I suspect a perl regexp that should be (.*?):, not (.*): but anyway that's probably been noticed fixed in a more recent version of dpkg. I guess what I'd suggest here is that dselect should know enough to upgrade dpkg first before trying anything else. Also, this bug crashed dpkg and dselect. I didn't appreciate being kicked out of dselect so abruptly; it should handle dpkg errors, though I was pleased that it didn't lose my changes to the package selection. 3) Dselect deletes uninstalled files (ones that encountered installation errors) when it asks you delete installed files?, so that wasted line time from my perspective. Just because dselect polices your initial package selection, it shouldn't assume that the download completed and everything will be OK. Keep aborted/incomplete .deb files unless told to purge them. 4) Deselect downloads the files in a random order (a perl hash at work here no doubt:) What it should do is a DFS on the dependency tree so that if your download is incomplete most of the files you grabbed will still install. Perhaps it should also give priority to packages in base/. -- Brian S. Julin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendfax errors
I recently installed mgetty 1.0.0-1 and it pretty well worked out of the box with a USR 28.8 V.34 33.6 faxmodem. It even told me to put switchbd 0 in mgetty.config when I sent it the first fax. However, I can't sendfax back to the machine I faxed it from. I can fax to an identical Debian/USR system, but all I get from our fax machine is transmission error 24 (RSPEC). I tried another fax machine and got error 25 (DCS sent three times without response). Neither fax machine emits anything. I'd love to look up these errors, and the fax commands that are logged in sendfax.log, but I have no idea where to start. The modem manual (and all the associated documents at USR's ftp site) are completely silent on fax commands beyond the likes of AT+FCLASS=0 to get a modem back into data mode. The error messages in the fax's manual look completely different (manufacturer specific?). There's a table of numeric codes and their strings in /usr/doc/mgetty/fhng-codes but the programs already give you the verbose error. alt.fax and comp.dcom.fax are no help - I saw an unanswered request for error codes when I looked. Where ought I to look? David. -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a dictionary for abbreviations like WTF?
Hi, I would like to resolve these many abbreviations today, as AKA (also known as) WTF (???) ... So, is there any appropriate dictionary? Thanks. Andreas. Install the jargon package. Then go to an info reader (for example, start up emacs and type C-h i), and go to the jargon menu (type m jargon ENTER). Somewhere you'll find: WTF the universal interrogative particle; WTF knows what it means? -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beginner's Question
On 10-Feb-97, Philippe Troin wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:37:10 PST Colin Watt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have download the Debian files and created my disks and loaded Debian Linux on a stand alone PC. All is well - but what next? This is a question I have asked myself many times... I don't want to buy a CD to install Debian and I don't want to stay connected to my ISP either. I guess you've just installed the base disks. Now, you need to install supplemental packages using dselect. If you have a CD-ROM, this will be straightforward. Otherwise, you'll have to configure ppp or your ethernet card to get net access, and install with the ftp option of dselect. Well it's time for me to ask this question. How does Dselects' ftp mode work, can I select which packages to install, and then get a list of files to download from a Debian FTP mirror? I'm a person who has got the bad habit of RTFM (gasp), but the problem is that I can't find anything about *what* exactly all the modes does.. -- Erik Johansson, one of those sloppy students A big QNX, Linux/x86/m68k Amiga and BeOS fan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What package is nfsd in?
I think my rex-fixed/updates problems are responsible for the lack of any mention of netstd_nfs. Since I've installed Debian before I'm familar with the need to uncomment mountd/nfsd etc... Well that use to be the case. Do you mean /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs? That's in netstd (at least, that's still what the package is called in unstable, so I assume it hasn't changed in rex eighter). If you want your nfsd to run, you'll have to activate it in /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs (it's commented out by default). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wrong permissions of /etc/rmtab?
The permissions of '/etc/rmtab' read -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 58 Feb 18 12:29 rmtab To my mind, this is wrong. They should be somethig like: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 58 Feb 18 12:29 rmtab Am I right? Yes, it should definately be -rw-r--r--. Any comments? $ ls -al /etc/mtab -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 421 Feb 14 21:49 /etc/mtab That's on two independantly installed computers over here, and I also checked on a ISP near me, who happens to be running Debian. So, could this be something that was left on your system from a really old installation? If so, I guess the base system should check for it and offer to remove the world-writablility. -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Matrox Millenium Video Card Problem
AUBORD Alain writes: Alain I have some problems with my Matrox Millenium Video Card. I Alain want to start X with the XFree 3.2 super vga server but I Alain only get 320x200 display. The chip seems not to be recognized Alain properly. AFAIK the current XFree has a server for the MGA? kai -- A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Start Delay in Ping...
One my one system (now running Debian GNU/Linux 1.2.5 on a 386SX), I'm experiencing something strange when pinging some other systems. I'll ping a system and there won't be any response for about 5 seconds - then the last 5 or 6 ping responses will come dumping back all at once. i.e. I'll [snip...] As you can see, ping time is actually pretty low - once I start receiving packets Any idea on why this might be? It could be because the route to the remote site involves an ISDN line. One of our LAN's is connected to two others with ISDN and when I ping a host on one of those sites I will observe exactly the same behavior. It takes around 3-4 seconds for our routers to connect. Or maybe it's because of a slow link to a name server in case you use DNS. Did you ping the host name or the IP address? Thanks for the response. From your info and others, I've discovered the problem to be with my DNS config. We don't have an ISDN connection and pinging the IP addr directly results in no delays. I'll hit the DNS docs and do some RTFM and see if I can figure out what's wrong. Thanks for your help, Kevin Traas Systems Analyst Edmondson Roper Chartered Accountants http://users.uniserve.com/~erca Chilliwack, B.C. Pager: (604) 918-2054 Office: (604) 792-1915 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls colors gone after upgrade
Folks, please hold your tone. You are both right. With XFREE 3.2, the colorization of xterm is not active by default. One would not notice this unless one has removed the previously released (and now obsolete) xterm-color package. So, if the problem was I do get color in ls on the console but not in xterms, then the howto colorize the new xterm is appropriate. Otherwise the first solution offered by William is needed. Thanks. Syrus. P.S. I was the author of the now obsolete color-ls package. :-) -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'at' command/ Apology
First an apology. Some of us, at least myself, don't like to be confronted with our stupidity. Why I choose to advertize it, then, is another question. On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Siggy Brentrup wrote: I apologize if you took my citing of the man page as RTFM. Please attribute it to my poor English. No, your reply was my first, and answered my question directly. Thank you. I have also recieved some very helpful, more lengthy responses. hmm does Red Hat have a mailing list or newsgroup? I think so, but why are you asking - some sort of (not so) subtle threat? That doesn't look like good style either. -- Siggy Agreed. I regret saying it. It would be my loss. Mike. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls colors gone after upgrade
Version 3.13 of ls has the default dircolors compiled in, so the eval `dircolors` line in the profile is redundant as far as 'ls' is concerned. However, a few other programs (I can't remember which at the moment) depend on the LS-COLORS variable that dircolors sets and exports, so it is desirable to leave that line in the profile. :-) On 18 Feb 1997 William Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Feb 1997, Michael Harnois wrote: .bashrc and/or .profile (or .cshrc or .zshrc, whatever): eval `dircolors` alias ls 'ls --color=auto' This would be wonderful if it were the correct answer. However, as we This IS the correct answer, WTF are you talking about? I've been using a similar alias in my startup scripts for months now. discussed just over a month ago on this list, the correct answer is not documented anywhere in the Debian packages. You can read the manpage for ls until hell freezes over and still not get color. The correct answer was provided by Herbert Xu: I man ls, one of the options is --color. This should've clued you in. Maybe your brain froze over... Yes indeed. And that means you need this resource line: XTerm*customization: -color Uh, this will only work in an Xterm. Did you just want it in JUST an Xterm? I don't have access to your original email. If this is the case you should've specified. Anyway, the above solution will also work on Xterms. They read the .bashrc by default (assuming you're running bash...). I also assume you can export the aliases (although I've never done so...) Stop confusing the populace. Will -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The LSL TriLinux2 CD?
On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: On 16 Feb 1997, Kai Grossjohann wrote: I created a RESQ disk and a DRV disk, booted with the RESQ disk, told it to mount the CD, executed a shell, made a symlink /tmp/base1_2.tgz pointing to the base1_2.tgz file on the CD, then told the installation thingy to install from a mounted partition, and everything was dandy. Two floppies, not six :-) With loadlin you could do this with 0 floppies. Is there some documentation on this? I read through the install.html file last January and didn't see any way to install it other than by making 6 floppies.. Is there a HOW-To or something? Thanks, Jason -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DE200 network card
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, David Wright wrote: On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Alex Monaghan wrote: Colin Watt wrote: Does Debian (or any Linux) support a DE200 network card? I can't see it on the list. Don't know about Debian, but assume it's similiar to Slackware. I have a few DE-100's and these are recognised by the NE drivers. If your card is I don't know about NE drivers, but the DE200 is covered by the depca driver, see /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/depca.c for details. I found that probing a DE100 card with cdrom drivers etc. kills it. I don't know if DE200s are the same. I had to compile a kernel on another (3c509) machine to be able to use the ones with DE100 cards at all. The 2.0.27 Debian kernel wiped the eeprom in my de-250 while it was booting, very scary to boot into linux and then into win95 and find your net card is no longer working :| The solution in my case was to move it from port 0x280 to another. Jason -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
linux file systems - frag-up
Hi - Can anybody out there familiar with linux filesystem formats tell me if I need to be concerned with file system fragmentation. I have a copy of the new AIX (4.1.4) on my rs6k and have noticed that it comes with a file sys. defrag utility. And so I am wondering if linux's filesystems frag-up, and if there are utilities for defragging them. regards thanks in advance - dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian installation
OK - I went back a few messages and you did show us your partition table. Boot Begin Start End Blocks System /dev/hda1 * 1 1 163 82120+ Linux native /dev/hda2164 164 244 40824 Linux swap /dev/hda3245 245 1260 512064 Linux native /dev/hda4 1024 1261 2484 616896 Extended Am I reading this right? Could the extended partition in hda3 be overlapping the one in hda4? I see hda3 ending at 1260 and hda4 beginning at 1024. I think the problem is that I don't understand extended partitions, and thus I don't see what the difference is between begin and start. /dev/hda5 1024 1261 1870 307408+ Linux native /dev/hda6 1024 1871 2484 309424+ Linux native Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian installation
Regarding the disk being too large, the partition that the system boots from should be entirely within the low 1023 cylinders. I handled this by creating a separate partition (about 40 MB) for /, and a larger one for /usr. Other than that, the disk size is not a concern, and this is a BIOS limitation, not a Linux one. Regarding the overlap, show us your partition table. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrading by shaky ftp...
How will dselect react to the PPP-link going down while upgrading by ftp? Sometimes I can be on for hours without problems, othertimes the connection drops every 5-15 minutes... Can I just reconnect and restart dselect Install/Upgrade and it will resume with regetting the last (incomplete) .deb file? Or is there more to it? Maybe better to ftp updated packages by hand and point dselect to them? But that is definately not as neat as just pointing dselect to the site and periodically checking on progress and if necessary reconnect... /Michael -- |Linux: Turn on...Tune in...Fork out... | |Michael Tempsch, member of Ballistic Wizards, TIP#088, TDGP#20 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The LSL TriLinux2 CD?
At 05:45 AM 2/17/97 +0100, Paul Seelig wrote: The best naturally is to order one of those writable CD's from I-Connect Why is that? BTW. Is there a 1.2.5, or is that a typo that's being propagated? I've been following Debian for awhile, but at this point I am unsure how to determine when a 1.2.X update hs been made. Any hints? Thanks! hunter -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
something strange has happened.
Where's netstd been moved to? in rex-fixed it was a link to updates but now it's not in rex-fixed/binary-i386/net or updates/binary-i386 am I missing something? Also the ms-dos path has netstd.deb-../../binary-i386/net The destination of the link isn't there. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Initial Installation
Try downloading fresh disk images from ftp.debian.org . There may have been bugs in the ones on your CD. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
