xlib6 dependency problems

1997-07-01 Thread Adam Klein
I'm running a Debian 1.3 system on a fairly small hard drive, so I don't want
to install X.  However, many console-based programs require that xlib6 be
installed.  What should I do?


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Re: USR Modem Hangs Intermittantly

1997-07-01 Thread Britton

 I have the same problem with my OEM USR Sportster 28.8!  However, I only
 have problems under Debian and not Win95.  I get pauses and hang-ups 
 very frequently that are about to drive me insane!  I have the S12=0 set
 on both platforms as has been mentioned in past threads.  Is the Linux
 PPP more senstive to line noise?  PPP almost always terminates in these
 instances with a SIGHUP signal.(I don't send it.)
 (/var/log/messages snippet)
 Jun 24 08:37:22 servis pppd[249]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
 Jun 24 08:37:22 servis pppd[249]: Modem hangup
 Jun 24 08:37:22 servis pppd[249]: Connection terminated.

It is ossible this is an IRQ problem, or even a DMA problem.  On my last
computer I had the high DMA channel of my SB16 selected wrong and it
screwed up my modem in the most subtle way (zmodem stopped working,
everything else seemed fine).  If it is an ISA modem or is operating with
PnP disabled another thing to check is your bios settings: make sure your
PnP setup reserves the proper IRQ  for ISA cards.  Good luck.

 
 Maybe the register to set is S10 which pauses after loss of carrier before
 hang up?
 
 Anybody have any suggestions for us?
 
 Thanks,
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I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-01 Thread Eliezer Figueroa


 I need to know where to find a program that could be use to split a 
windows 95 partition without deleting the information in it. I need that 
in order to install linux in my computer.


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Re: how to use the X chooser?

1997-07-01 Thread J . R . Blaakmeer
On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:41:22 -0400 , Joey Hess wrote:
 I'm trying to set up a machine as an xterm, so I want it to run the chooser
 on bootup and then xdm... the Xaccess file seems to indicate that if you
 make it contain just this line, it'll work:
 
 * CHOOSER BROADCAST
 
 But if I make that change, xdm still just comes up and I don't see the
 chooser. What do I need to do to get the chooser to come up?

Do you mean that you are running xdm on the supposed-to-be xterm? You
shouldn't do that in your case. The only things you need are:
- xdm with the above config on the computer that is supposed to run the
programs (the server)
- an X server on the computer with the display

So if you want to set up an X treminal, have it run something like
/usr/bin/X11/X -indirect ip_of_server
or
/usr/bin/X11/X -query ip_of_server
at boot time.

The first line tries to get the chooser from the server, the second
directly opens a connection to the server. Do 'man Xserver' for more
options you might like.

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irqtune: insmod failed on '/usr/lib/hwtools/irqtune_mod.o'

1997-07-01 Thread Hong Huang

Got this error on my Debian 1.3 system:

kernel: 2.0.30 compiled with loadable module support

hwtools: 0.2-5

moduils: 2.1.34-5

Any idea what's wrong?  Thanks

HH


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Re: Matlab for Debian?

1997-07-01 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:

 
 Can you get Matlab for Debian?  Someone told me that Matlab is
 only supported by RedHat.  Does anyone know?
 
 Thanks.

Matlab is supported only my The Mathworks (I think that's the name of the 
company that makes Matlab).  I have it installed on a Debian 1.3 
machine.  It has its own installation program which will allow you to 
easily install it in /usr/local where IMHO it belongs.  It seems 
relatively stable on that machine, but we've yet to use it other than the 
demos (only had it for one month).  Our University site license allows us
to lease it for $125/year.  Your price may vary--I think a single machine 
commercial license is about $1800 to purchase.

Good Luck.  Syrus.

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Re: irqtune: insmod failed on '/usr/lib/hwtools/irqtune_mod.o'

1997-07-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Hong Huang wrote:

 
 Got this error on my Debian 1.3 system:
 
 kernel: 2.0.30 compiled with loadable module support
 
 hwtools: 0.2-5
 
 moduils: 2.1.34-5
 
 Any idea what's wrong?  Thanks
 
Did you build and install the modules? 

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Loopback/Hosts trouble

1997-07-01 Thread Rob MacWilliams
 Hi all
 
 I am setting up a new machine to be used as a gateway/IpMasqurade server.  
It's going well except
 for one problem.  If I ping it, presumably using loopback because it's not 
connected to anything,
 I recieve a network unreachable error.  This is only happening when I use it's 
name, any service
 works if I use localhost, so I am assuming the loopback interface is up and 
running fine but there
 is something weird going on with the host lookup.  Ifconfig reveals that the 
loopback interface is
 up and running correctly:
 
 $/sbin/ifconfig
 loLink encap:Local Loopback  
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
   UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
   RX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
   TX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
 
 
 $ping catbert
 PING catbert (192.168.1.2): 56 data bytes
 ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
 ping: wrote catbert 64 chars, ret=1
 
 $ping localhost
 PING catbert (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.5 ms
 
 The host file looks like this:
 
 127.0.0.1  catbert localhost
 192.168.1.2catbert
 192.168.1.1ratbert
 
 There also seems to be a valid route to loopback.
 
 $route
 
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
 localnet   *   255.0.0.0   U 0  02 
lo
 
 If I Plip connect to ratbert, the pings just time out, but ratbert can ping it 
fine.  The plip and
 masqurade setup seem to be working as advertised.
 
 I've tried changing the order of the entries in the host table, this doesn't 
help.  If I delete or
 comment out the 192.X.X.X entries, it works fine.  The other machine, ratbert, 
is working fine.
 
 If it matters, catbert is running a custom 2.0.30 kernel on a system that was 
a clean install of 1.3, 
and ratbert is running an upgraded 1.3 (from 1.2) base.


 
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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Eliezer Figueroa wrote:

 
 
  I need to know where to find a program that could be use to split a 
 windows 95 partition without deleting the information in it. I need that 
 in order to install linux in my computer.

Two possibilities come to mind:

FIPS (at ftp.debian.org in /debian/tools), a freeware dos program which
will do this (you must defrag the Win95 partition first, which probably
means turning off swap and changing the attributes on any hidden or system
files). 

Partition Magic, a commercial program which does a bit more than fips,
such as moving and enlarging a partition.  It also comes with the OS/2
boot manager.

I've used both, but prefer Partition Magic.  Either will work reliably,
but the usual caveat is to backup your files before using one of these.
Partition Magic 3.0 will handle FAT32 partitions.

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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-01 Thread Britton

I think the program you are looking for is called fips.  I don't know
quite where to find it.  It could be touchy to use Win95 doesn't get along
well with other systems, and I don't know how it would react to having
it's partition resized.


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Help! kernel compile problem

1997-07-01 Thread Zachary DeAquila

I thought I'd build a nice slim 'n trim kernel for one of
my machines... so I went and did a make config, then did
'make zImage' and got:

ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x10 -e stext arch/i386/kernel/head.o init/main.o 
init/version.o \
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o 
fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o net/network.a \
fs/filesystems.a \
drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/net/net.a 
drivers/pci/pci.a \
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux/lib/lib.a 
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a -o vmlinux
init/main.o: In function `start_kernel':
init/main.o(.text+0x8fb): undefined reference to `bigphysarea_init'
init/main.o(.data+0xf0): undefined reference to `scsi_luns_setup'
init/main.o(.data+0xf8): undefined reference to `st_setup'
init/main.o(.data+0x100): undefined reference to `msmouse_setup'
init/main.o(.data+0x108): undefined reference to `ppa_setup'
init/main.o(.data+0x118): undefined reference to `bigphysarea_setup'
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o: In function `restore_i387':
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o(.text+0x9c2): undefined reference to 
`restore_i387_soft'
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o: In function `save_i387':
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o(.text+0xc32): undefined reference to `save_i387_soft'
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o: In function `do_signal':
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o(.text+0x13e9): undefined reference to `math_emulate'
kernel/kernel.o(.data+0x104): undefined reference to `bigphysarea_alloc'
kernel/kernel.o(.data+0x10c): undefined reference to `bigphysarea_free'
kernel/kernel.o(.data+0x114): undefined reference to `bigphysarea'
fs/fs.o: In function `sys_setup':
fs/fs.o(.text+0xd9fe): undefined reference to `init_ext_fs'
fs/fs.o(.text+0xda26): undefined reference to `init_smb_fs'
fs/fs.o(.text+0xda2b): undefined reference to `init_iso9660_fs'
fs/fs.o(.text+0xda30): undefined reference to `init_sysv_fs'
fs/fs.o(.text+0xda35): undefined reference to `init_hpfs_fs'
fs/fs.o(.text+0xda3a): undefined reference to `init_ufs_fs'
drivers/block/block.a(ll_rw_blk.o): In function `blk_dev_init':
ll_rw_blk.o(.text+0xedc): undefined reference to `loop_init'
drivers/block/block.a(genhd.o): In function `device_setup':
genhd.o(.text+0x7ed): undefined reference to `scsi_dev_init'
drivers/char/char.a(misc.o): In function `misc_init':
misc.o(.text+0x240): undefined reference to `psaux_init'
misc.o(.text+0x245): undefined reference to `ms_bus_mouse_init'
drivers/net/net.a(Space.o): In function `ethif_probe':
Space.o(.text+0x22): undefined reference to `tc59x_probe'
Space.o(.text+0x2f): undefined reference to `el3_probe'
make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1

Which bugs me since most of the things it's bitching about aren't
even in my .config!   Help!

 --Zachary

PS: my .config is:

#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#

#
# Code maturity level options
#
# CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is not set

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
# CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set
# CONFIG_KERNELD is not set

#
# General setup
#
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_NET=y
# CONFIG_MAX_16M is not set
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_KERNEL_ELF=y
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
CONFIG_M486=y
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
# CONFIG_BIGPHYS_AREA is not set

#
# Floppy, IDE, and other block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y

#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PCMCIA is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640_ENHANCED is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRITON=y
CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS=y

#
# Note: most of these also require special kernel boot parameters
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ALI14XX is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DTC2278 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HT6560B is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_QD6580 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMC8672 is not set

#
# Additional Block Devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Networking options
#
# CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set
CONFIG_NET_ALIAS=y
CONFIG_INET=y
# CONFIG_IP_FORWARD is not set
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y
# CONFIG_IP_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set
CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=y

#
# (it is safe to leave these untouched)
#
# CONFIG_INET_PCTCP is not set
# CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set
# CONFIG_NO_PATH_MTU_DISCOVERY is not set
CONFIG_IP_NOSR=y
CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y

#
#  
#
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
# CONFIG_ATALK is not set
# CONFIG_AX25 is not set
# CONFIG_NETLINK is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
# CONFIG_SCSI is not set

#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
CONFIG_DUMMY=y
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
# CONFIG_PLIP is not set
# CONFIG_PPP is not set
# CONFIG_SLIP is not set
# 

Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-01 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eliezer Figueroa) writes:

  I need to know where to find a program that could be use to split a 
 windows 95 partition without deleting the information in it. I need that 
 in order to install linux in my computer.

Try http://www.student.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~schaefer/fips.html;
about FIPS-1.5 andftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/diskutil/presz112.zip; for
another great free repartitioner.
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pon and poff -- need to be updated....

1997-07-01 Thread Dave Cinege
Shouldn't pon/poff contain the following instead of full scripts?

pon-
/etc/init.d/ppp start

poff-
/etc/init.d/ppp stop

Seems strange to duplicate what /etc/init.d/ppp (using start-stop-daemon) 
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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-01 Thread Stephen Witt

fips works fine with Win95.  Last September I had a new Dell with a 3 GB disk 
and 
Win95 installed and defragmented the disk with some Norton utility program and 
then resized the partion down to 1 GB and then created three more partitions 
for 
Linux (/root, swap, and /usr) and it worked just fine.  


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Re: xlib6 dependency problems

1997-07-01 Thread Philippe Troin

On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:25:05 PDT Adam Klein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I'm running a Debian 1.3 system on a fairly small hard drive, so I don't want
 to install X.  However, many console-based programs require that xlib6 be
 installed.  What should I do?

You'll have to install xlib6.
You can just install xlib6 without installing anything else from X.
This is required for programs that run with both console and X (emacsen, etc...)

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Loopback/Hosts trouble

1997-07-01 Thread Rob MacWilliams

  Hi all
  
  I am setting up a new machine to be used as a gateway/IpMasqurade server.  
It's going well except
  for one problem.  If I ping it, presumably using loopback because it's not 
connected to anything,
  I recieve a network unreachable error.  This is only happening when I use 
it's name, any service
  works if I use localhost, so I am assuming the loopback interface is up and 
running fine but there
  is something weird going on with the host lookup.  Ifconfig reveals that the 
loopback interface is
  up and running correctly:
  
  $/sbin/ifconfig
  loLink encap:Local Loopback  
inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
RX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
TX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
  
  
  $ping catbert
  PING catbert (192.168.1.2): 56 data bytes
  ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
  ping: wrote catbert 64 chars, ret=1
  
  $ping localhost
  PING catbert (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
  64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.5 ms
  
  The host file looks like this:
  
  127.0.0.1 catbert localhost
  192.168.1.2   catbert
  192.168.1.1   ratbert

  There also seems to be a valid route to loopback.
  
  $route
  
  Kernel IP routing table
  Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
  localnet  *   255.0.0.0   U 0  02 
lo
  
  If I Plip connect to ratbert, the pings just time out, but ratbert can ping 
it fine.  The plip and
  masqurade setup seem to be working as advertised.
  
  I've tried changing the order of the entries in the host table, this doesn't 
help.  If I delete or
  comment out the 192.X.X.X entries, it works fine.  The other machine, 
ratbert, is working fine.
  
  If it matters, catbert is running a custom 2.0.30 kernel on a system that was 
a clean install of 1.3, 
 and ratbert is running an upgraded 1.3 (from 1.2) base.
 
 
  
  Any clues would be appreciated.  Thanks



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Re: libreadlineg2 and upgrade to unstable

1997-07-01 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Andrew Martin Adrian Cater wrote:

 1.  Can anybody tell me how to satisfy the dependencies etc. to install
libreadlineg2 (ftp'd from master.debian.org).  Using dpkg -r on
libreadline doesn't work as it's needed by other packages.

 Get and install the newest libreadline2.

 And please: don't crosspost user questions to debian development miling
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Re: irqtune: insmod failed on '/usr/lib/hwtools/irqtune_mod.o'

1997-07-01 Thread Lindsay Allen

irqtune is a bit non standard, in that it has a module but it is not
preloaded.  Just run irqtune and it loads the module itself.

If you installed hwtools, edit /etc/rc.boot/hwtools and uncomment the
irqtune line.

Lindsay

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On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Hong Huang wrote:

 
 Got this error on my Debian 1.3 system:
 
 kernel: 2.0.30 compiled with loadable module support
 
 hwtools: 0.2-5
 
 moduils: 2.1.34-5
 
 Any idea what's wrong?  Thanks
 
 HH
 
 
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Re: Loopback/Hosts trouble

1997-07-01 Thread Philippe Troin

  $route
  
  Kernel IP routing table
  Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
  localnet *   255.0.0.0   U 0  02

You probably want to add a route to your machine like
  route add -net 192.168.1.0

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Re: Help! kernel compile problem

1997-07-01 Thread Philippe Troin

On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:11:32 CDT Zachary DeAquila ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
.org) wrote:

 I thought I'd build a nice slim 'n trim kernel for one of my 
 machines... so I went and did a make config, then did 'make zImage' 
 and got: 
[snip]

And you probably forgot to make clean and make dep in the action...

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Re: Boot linux from two linux partition

1997-07-01 Thread Brandon Mitchell
I saw an answer to this a while back.  I need to do it myself sometime, so
I saved the message:

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:31:06 +0100
From: Nuno Filipe Rocha Candido [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Some time ago, I had Debian and Slackware (Slack on hda4 and Debian on hdb2).
My approach for dual boot, for example in Debian was:
/etc/lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/hda
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
# ZIP drive settings
append = aha152x=0x140,11,7,1

# DOS bootable partition
other = /dev/hda1
  label = win95
  table = /dev/hda
# DOS bootable partition config ends

# Linux bootable partition config begins
# Debian latest kernel
image=/vmlinuz
  root=/dev/hdb2
  label = Debian
  read-only
image=/mnt/slack/vmlinuz
  root=/dev/hda4
  label = Slack
  read-only

This means i have slackware mounted in /mnt/slack, and you have to do the same
in slackware.

 end forwarded message 

HTH,
Brandon

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kernel 2.0.30 causes masquerading problems

1997-07-01 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas


After compiling a new kernel for my debian 1.3 system, I've run into a
little problem.  At least I think the new kernel is to blame as this is
the only thing to have changed recently.

First, I use IP masquerading so my networked NT 4.0 box can access the
internet.  I've made a little rc.d script (S20/K20) to set the rules
which
goes as follows:
 -- BEGIN --
case $1 in
  start)
 /sbin/ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.2.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0
 /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p deny
 /sbin/ipfwadm -I -p accept
 /sbin/ipfwadm -O -p accept
 echo Firewall and masquerading rules set
;;
  stop)
 /sbin/ipfwadm -F -f
 /sbin/ipfwadm -I -f
 /sbin/ipfwadm -O -f
;;
  *)
echo Usage: /etc/init.d/ipfw {start|stop}
exit 1
esac

exit 0

 -- END --

This worked fine with 2.0.27 but is broken now.  There are no error
messages or anything.  Here is the contents of /proc/net/ip_forward:

 -- BEGIN --
IP firewall forward rules, default 0
C0A80200/FF00-/ -  204 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
0 0 0 0 0 0 AFF X00
-- END

Perhaps the version of ipfwadm is out of sync with the kernel version?
Mine is from netbase 2.13-1.  Other than that, I can't think whats wrong.

Anyone have any ideas?

-- Jaldhar


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XFree86: bad inconsistent state of xserver-vga?

1997-07-01 Thread Carl Fink
I'm trying to install XFree86 3.2 from the Cheap*Bytes disk for Debian
1.2.

I can't.

The first time, I was able to partially install.  That is, dselect
worked flawlessly, but XF86Setup couldn't configure properly and
everything locked.

I decided to try to install version 3.3.  I downloaded the .tgz files
directly from xfree86.org, and it completely failed to work, either.

So, I deleted all files in any directory related to X and tried again
with the .deb files from ftp.debian.org.  Unfortunately, I can't use
dselect for this, and without that I can't tell what the dependencies
are!  Would dftp help?

Since this failed, I used dpkg -i to remove them all again, and tried
dselect and my CD-ROM again.

However, dselect is now incapable of installing.  I get error messages
that xinitrc is not found -- but in that case, why can't the installer
(xbase-configure) create it?

Here's the message, which appears in a very attractive dialog box:

   Not all of the configuration and application default files are
   installed. The file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc is
   missing

Odd.

I also can't uninstall -- dselect informs me that xserver-vga is in a
bad inconsistent state and suggests reinstalling, which doesn't
work.

What's up?  Would it help to purchase a new (1.3.1) CD-ROM?  I was
hoping to wait for 1.4 and the dselect replacement, but I can probably
spare ten bucks if it'll solve this problem.

I'm using a clone system, AMI BIOS supporting an AMD 5x86-75 (really a
486-133), a 500 MB IDE hard drive (DOS/Win3) and a 1 GB IDE drive (2
OS/2 partitions, 1 HPFS data, 1 Linux swap, 1 Linux ext2), 48 MB of
RAM, and a Jaton 57-P (Trident TGUI 9680) video card with 1 MB of
VRAM.

Thanks in advance for any help.


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kernel compile error

1997-07-01 Thread Kevin J Poorman
Hi.
I just upgraded to Debian 1.3 (which went with out a hitch)

but now I want to compile my kernel so I have Sound Suport and other
things 

I went and grabed the source and tryed to compile it ... and this is what
I got 


Begin Screen Dump.
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
-m486 -DCPU=486  -c -o pty.o pty.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
-m486 -DCPU=486  -c -o vt.o vt.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
-m486 -DCPU=486  -c -o mem.o mem.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
-m486 -DCPU=486  -c -o vc_screen.o vc_screen.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
-m486 -DCPU=486  -c -o random.o random.c
cpp: output pipe has been closed
gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
make[3]: *** [random.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/drivers/char'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/drivers/char'
make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/drivers'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2

End screen dump

any help twoards fixing this problem is greatly appreiceated


-Kevin


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Re: kernel compile error

1997-07-01 Thread dpk
I have gotten this once before.  I just did a 'make clean; make dep; make
zImage' and it compiled okay... as to why this happens I don't know.

Dennis

On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Kevin J Poorman wrote:

 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 22:09:44 CDT
 From: Kevin J Poorman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: kernel compile error 
 Resent-Date: 1 Jul 1997 04:09:00 -
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Resent-cc: recipient.list.not.shown:;@lists.debian.org
 
 Hi.
 I just upgraded to Debian 1.3 (which went with out a hitch)
 
 but now I want to compile my kernel so I have Sound Suport and other
 things 
 
 I went and grabed the source and tryed to compile it ... and this is what
 I got 
 
 
 Begin Screen Dump.
 gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
 -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
 -m486 -DCPU=486  -c -o pty.o pty.c
 gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
 -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
 -m486 -DCPU=486  -c -o vt.o vt.c
 gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
 -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
 -m486 -DCPU=486  -c -o mem.o mem.c
 gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
 -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
 -m486 -DCPU=486  -c -o vc_screen.o vc_screen.c
 gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include -Wall
 -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe
 -m486 -DCPU=486  -c -o random.o random.c
 cpp: output pipe has been closed
 gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
 make[3]: *** [random.o] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/drivers/char'
 make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/drivers/char'
 make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/drivers'
 make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
 
 End screen dump
 
 any help twoards fixing this problem is greatly appreiceated
 
 
 -Kevin
 
 
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Re: kernel 2.0.30 causes masquerading problems

1997-07-01 Thread Britton

I have been having trouble with X not being able to load the libraries it
needs.  In particular, 9wm complains about not being able to load
libXaw.so.6 and xmix about libXext.so.6.  I know these files are in
/usr/X11R6/lib (I pasted them from there) with read and execute permission
for everyone.  Hopefully this is some small problem with a missing link or
some such thing.  Thanks for any help you can give me. 


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mind you don't break 'em.  I won't eat a broken egg.  
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Re: kernel 2.0.30 causes masquerading problems

1997-07-01 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas

This sounds like a completely different problem to me.  Are those
libraries listed in /etc/ld.so.conf?  Have you tried running ldconfig -v
as root?

-- Jaldhar

On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Britton wrote:

 
 I have been having trouble with X not being able to load the libraries it
 needs.  In particular, 9wm complains about not being able to load
 libXaw.so.6 and xmix about libXext.so.6.  I know these files are in
 /usr/X11R6/lib (I pasted them from there) with read and execute permission
 for everyone.  Hopefully this is some small problem with a missing link or
 some such thing.  Thanks for any help you can give me. 
 
 
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 mind you don't break 'em.  I won't eat a broken egg.  
   -- Thorin Oakenshield 
 


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Way to set up a MacFiles virtual drive?

1997-07-01 Thread Chad D. Zimmerman

Way back when I was working at one of my older jobs we used Macs and UNIX
stations.  Our unix accounts had a MacFiles directory that allowed a mac
to connect to it like it was a regular mac drive.

Now at my new job I am using Mac and Linux systems.  Is there a way I can
add MacFiles support to my system?  I saw several mac programs, but non
had MacFiles listed.  Is there a MacFiles or will I have to use something
else to accomplish this?

Chad

I think I worded the above right :}  Been a long day.

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Re: Matlab for Debian?

1997-07-01 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:

 On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:
 
  Can you get Matlab for Debian?  Someone told me that Matlab is
  only supported by RedHat.  Does anyone know?
 
 Matlab is supported only my The Mathworks (I think that's the name of the 
 company that makes Matlab).  I have it installed on a Debian 1.3 
 machine.  It has its own installation program which will allow you to 
 easily install it in /usr/local where IMHO it belongs.  It seems 
 relatively stable on that machine, but we've yet to use it other than the 
 demos (only had it for one month).  Our University site license allows us
 to lease it for $125/year.  Your price may vary--I think a single machine 
 commercial license is about $1800 to purchase.
 
 Good Luck.  Syrus.

I think I'd better add a bit to the above.  As some other Matlab user 
mentionned, there are some debian-specific fixes needed when one 
installs.  Also, we are using 5.0 with a few toolboxes.  Some of the 
toolboxes are not yet available for Linux in version 5.0, but workarounds 
are provided--I haven't made the Image Processing toolbox work yet.  The 
most important fix as mentionned in another message is a missing library 
that can be downloaded from an ftp site--see the FAQs at the Matlab www 
page.

Cheers.  Syrus.

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X Free 3.3-3, bug??

1997-07-01 Thread Adam Shand
I have just installed all the X packages (xbase, xserver-svga etc) on my
Thinkpad laptop 755CX.  I was having troubles and assumed it was my
inexperience with X that was doing it :)

I now have a friend here who is familiar with X and now that we are playing
properly with it we have found that it doesn't seem to be finding our
XF86Config file.  The file is kept in /usr/X11 and there is a link to it in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11??

It is dying with the error that no appropriate screen resolutions can be
found.  Does anyone know what this could be or do you need more details?

Thanks,

Adam.


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Re: kernel compile error

1997-07-01 Thread Philippe Troin

On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:27:30 EDT dpk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

[stuff about SIGSEGV w/compiling kernel]

 I have gotten this once before.  I just did a 'make clean; make dep; make
 zImage' and it compiled okay... as to why this happens I don't know.

These kinds of unreproducible errors when compiling the kernel (or anything) 
are likely due to hardware problems: faulty cache or memory, etc...
There are a number of faqs available describing this problem.
Gcc is an excelent memory tester :-)

Phil.



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hdparm HOWTO ??

1997-07-01 Thread Hong Huang

I'm running Linux on a used 486DX2 66 (got it for less than $250) and
really want to get the most out of it...

Just looked into hdparm tonight. It seems the -u1, -m xx options are good
choices. However there are several warnings of possible filesystem
corruption regarding these options. The package only comes with a manpage, 
which is obviously oversimplified for a person like me who don't have
much knowledge of hard drives. Just wondering if there are some sorts of
hdparm HOWTO that have more details about using the program.

I want to use

   hdparm -u1 -m16 -Z /dev/hda

for my Seagate ST-3780 hard drive on VLB IDE connector (controller with
OPTi something chipset? not quite sure).

Does anybody out there have any experience using hdparm on a similiar
configuration or just any configuration? Any results, good and bad?

Any input appreciated.

HH


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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-01 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
 BN == Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BN Two possibilities come to mind:

BN FIPS (at ftp.debian.org in /debian/tools), [...]

BN Partition Magic, a commercial program which [...]

Does both of these also support moving a partition, not just resizing?


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Re: LILO--Dual Booting Two Linux Systems

1997-07-01 Thread Carey Evans
Civ Kevin F. Havener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I wnat to run a side by side comparison of two linux distributions--Debian
 and one other.  I plan to install them on the same IDE drive under separate
 (monolithic) partitions.  What does LILO need to recognize this set up?
 
   mbr on hda 
   dos on hda1
   swap on hda2
   linux1 (/root) on hda3 
   linux2 (/root) on hda4

A couple of options, mostly untested:

1. On linux2, install lilo on hda4 (boot=/dev/hda4), no prompts just
   booting straight to hda4.  On linux1, install lilo with all choices
   in the mbr and chain to hda4 (like you chain to hda1 for DOS).

2. Mount linux2 on linux1 (in /root2 for example) and specify
   /root2/vmlinuz as the image, as well as overriding `root='.  Run
   lilo only when booted from linux1, or do the same in reverse too.

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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jul 01, 1997 at 11:00:22AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
  BN == Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 BN Two possibilities come to mind:
 
 BN FIPS (at ftp.debian.org in /debian/tools), [...]
 
 BN Partition Magic, a commercial program which [...]
 
 Does both of these also support moving a partition, not just resizing?

Partition Magic 2 at least won't move or do anything to ext2fs.
It also tends to be pretty cryptic if it thinks there's anything
wrong with a partition table; just gives an error and won't touch
the disk; no error message, just a code.

I would think 3.0 would be better in this regard, but I haven't seen it.

Hamish
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Re: dosemu comes w/o conf file

1997-07-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 01:30:37PM -0600, Paul Rightley wrote:
 The solution to this problem is simply to purge dosemu and then
 reinstall it.  Thank you Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler.
 
 The problem is that dselect only removes packages -
 it does not purge them.  This means that one cannot use dselect 
 and remove and then successfully install dosemu.  This is analogous to the
 problems I had reintsalling the teTeX packages recently.  In both cases, one
 cannot remove and then
 immediately reinstall some packages because of simple problems.

You can hit _ instead of - to purge packages in dselect.


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Re: Is there anything more unstable than Netscape??

1997-07-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jun 30, 1997 at 01:18:09AM -0400, jim wrote:
 Since I get on average about 10 fatal crashes of netscape a 
 day, when combined with the flaky behavior, I'd say that 
 Netscape for linux is the most unstable but working application
 I've ever seen.
 
 Is anyone out there running netscape communicator 4.0b5 and
 having a good time???

Hopefully the release will be available soon. I use communicator
on Linux, which seems quite stable. But it doesn't take long to
crash Win95 Netscape 4.0/4.01; what hope do we Linux people have
when Linux netscape isn't even official supported?


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Re: Sound

1997-07-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jun 30, 1997 at 10:09:00AM -0400, dpk wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Darren Renaud wrote:
 
  Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:31:01 -0400
  From: Darren Renaud [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Sound
  Resent-Date: 30 Jun 1997 14:21:04 -
  Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Resent-cc: recipient.list.not.shown:;@lists.debian.org
  
  I know this has probably been beat to death, but What happened to
  module sound support?  
 
 I only have looked at the sound support just recently ( got a soundcard
 for my machine about a month ago ) and when I configure my kernel for
 sound support, it doesn't allow it to be modular ( it's either compiled in
 the kernel, or not at all ).  You will have to recompile your kernel with
 SB 16/PRO support.  Then use the script included with the kernel source to
 create the corresponsing /dev/ support.  That should work... did you do
 that when you compiled your kernel?  

EH? Sound module support works just fine. You might need to do
a make menuconfig rather than config to access this option, though.

It's not too practical (IMHO) to include a sound module in the standard
kernel distribution, because unlike other drivers, all the sound
drivers get compiled togethe as you pick them at compile time in
the sound.o. OSS/Linux (the commercial version) uses separate drivers
but I guess that's what you're paying for.


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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-01 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
 HM == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

HM Partition Magic 2 at least won't move or do anything to ext2fs.

Oh, my fault, I'll specify  

I have a FAT partition at the end of a large disk, and to be able to
boot from that partition (at least from NT), it has to be at the start
of the disk/first partition.  

Debian is just installed, so it won't take more than, say, 1 hour to
reinstall that to the point where I am now.

HM It also tends to be pretty cryptic if it thinks there's anything
HM wrong with a partition table; just gives an error and won't touch
HM the disk; no error message, just a code.

I noticed.  That's what comes from using too many partitioning
tools... :(

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dselect CDROM method - Room for improvement?

1997-07-01 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen

I think this is quite slow(goes through all packets every time), so I
use the following instead:

* mount /cdrom/
* use the FTP method, which effectively copies the file to a directory
  on hard disk, and installs from there.  Much faster, but a bit too
  complicated, perhaps.

Could these maybe combine into a new method, skipping the FTP bit, and
just make symlinks (or copy the file into a directory) and install
from there instead. Or is it a good reason for going through the whole
CDROM each time?

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RE: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-01 Thread Matthew
Partition Magic 3 does claim to have support for ext2fs. It does a very
good job on moving, resizing, converting partitions from NTFS - FAT -
FAT32 - HPFS. I've never actually tried doing anything to an ext2fs
partition yet. I need to get a better backup device first :). It's a
tool I just keep going back to. Well worth the money.

I'm sure FIPS does a good job for a one off re-size of a partition, but
I've never used it, so I wouldn't like to comment.

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On Tue, Jul 01, 1997 at 11:00:22AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
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 BN Two possibilities come to mind:
 
 BN FIPS (at ftp.debian.org in /debian/tools), [...]
 
 BN Partition Magic, a commercial program which [...]
 
 Does both of these also support moving a partition, not just resizing?

Partition Magic 2 at least won't move or do anything to ext2fs.
It also tends to be pretty cryptic if it thinks there's anything
wrong with a partition table; just gives an error and won't touch
the disk; no error message, just a code.

I would think 3.0 would be better in this regard, but I haven't seen it.

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ppp-off not stopping dialup-connection

1997-07-01 Thread Christian Lynbech on satellite
When I was using pppd, I also had a little script, which basically
just did what the init.d script was doing, ie. something like:

/usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon --$action --verbose --exec /usr/sbin/pppd -- 
connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/chatscript$long

with $action being `start' or `stop'. I have been using diald for some
time now, so I do not know if it still works.

If all else fails, you could consider just doing an

echo ATZ  /dev/modem

in you script. That should really take care of things.


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rxvt sporadic problem

1997-07-01 Thread Christian Lynbech on satellite
 Peter == Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 rxvt
Peter rxvt: can't open pseudo-tty rxvt: aborting

This could be a problem of running out of pseudo tty's which is a
limited ressource. However, I do not remember seeing such a thing on
any singleuser computer (ie. in most ordinary conditions; it takes
more than a few users to use up the defaults).

Are you running a server with lot of users or do you create
extraordinary many sessions (xterms/rxvt/login/rsh)? Each session
takes a tty, so most X sessions takes quite a lot, though I personally
never had problems. However, if a rogue script is executing rsh's or
rxvt's in an infinite loop, you will of course run dry at some point.

Peter I get this error under a non-root account, and then 10 minutes
Peter later the command works again.

Certainly sounds like `to few ressources with too many consumers'.

Try doing a `who' command. I believe that lists all allocated ttys.

I do not know how to enlarge the number of tty's on a linux box, but
there is undoubtedly a guru on this list that knows.

Peter xterm: unable to find usable termcap entry.

Somewhat strange. The xterm terminal definition definitely is in the
standard database. 

Perhaps your environment is pointing to something non-standard. Check
for settings of the TERMCAP or TERMINFO environment variables, and
unset them if present.

You can also try to check the directory:

/usr/lib/terminfo/x

which should contain a file named `xterm'. If that is present, the
database should be ok, I guess. 

On my system, that directory looks like:

x10term   x820  xerox820  xterm-color   xterms-sun
x1700 xenix xl83  xterm-nic
x1700-lm  xerox xtalk xterm-pcolor
x1720 xerox-lm  xterm xterm-sun
x1750 xerox1720 xterm-boldxterms

If you get really desparate, it is a rather small thing to install a
new xterm terminfo entry (though you probably want to find out what is
going on). 

You can even have a personal ~/.terminfo directory, complementing the
system entries, which just is yet another thing that shows how
wonderfull a UNIX system linux really is.


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Compiling a new kernel

1997-07-01 Thread BG Lim
In the instructions that came with the kernel source package, Linus
recommends making symlinks in the include directory to directories in the
usr/src/linux/arch directory.

I also remember reading that libc5-dev contains a set of headers.

Someone on the list recommended that the directories in the include
directory shoudln't be deleted and made into symlinks. Is this correct?

Also is glibc the same as libc6? if so why?


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Help please: /dev/printer disappeared

1997-07-01 Thread Rolf Obrecht
Hello,

Due to my impatience, I purged the old base-package after upgrading to
1.3 (it was listed as obsolete in dselect) without looking at it's
contents first :-(

Unfortunately, it contained all(?) device files in /dev; as a result,
the machine didn't boot anymore since it was unable to open an initial
console. Booting from rescue disk, mounting the harddrive to /target and
extracting the previously (on a different machine) generated tar file
containing the device-files solved the problem, but: /dev/printer still
doesn't exist.

Calling MAKEDEV printer only gives me MAKEDEV: out of space for
devices.

HOW can I re-create this socket?? (I would like to be able to print
some urgent and important files, but without /dev/printer.)

Any help appreciated

Rolf Obrecht
Institut fuer Elektrische Maschinen
RWTH Aachen
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New Install of1.3.0 and old AHA-1510A SCSI Card

1997-07-01 Thread Andrew Harmon
I'm doing a new install of Debian 1.3.0 and when I get to the device
drivers section,
None of the 4 options for SCSI controllers worked. Does anyone have any
ideas ?
The AHA-15110A is fairly ancient and has no boot ROM and has jumpers for
resource 
settings. The boot drive is an IDE, so it's not critical. But if I get it
to work it will save me from haaving to transfer 2 Gigs of files over to an
IDE drive

Help ???

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Re: Help please: /dev/printer disappeared

1997-07-01 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Rolf Obrecht wrote:

 : Unfortunately, it contained all(?) device files in /dev; as a result,
 : the machine didn't boot anymore since it was unable to open an initial
 : console. Booting from rescue disk, mounting the harddrive to /target and
 : extracting the previously (on a different machine) generated tar file
 : containing the device-files solved the problem, but: /dev/printer still
 : doesn't exist.
 : 
 : Calling MAKEDEV printer only gives me MAKEDEV: out of space for
 : devices.
 : 
 : HOW can I re-create this socket?? (I would like to be able to print
 : some urgent and important files, but without /dev/printer.)

As far as I know, /dev/printer is a symlink to /dev/lp0 or whatever port
your default printer is on.

Checkout /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt for the correct minor and
major numbers for this device.

Remco.

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Re: kernel 2.0.30 causes masquerading problems

1997-07-01 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes


Hi,


I think the problem isn't related with 2.0.30, since I use it with
IP masq. enabled without any problem for two subnets of win3.x, Linux, and
win95.

From your script, the main difference I can see is that I firstly
deny access:
ipfwadm -F -p deny
ipfwadm -F -a m -S ${NETWORK1}/24 -D 0.0.0.0/

I put these lines in the /etc/init.d/network, after my
devices are configured with ifconfig and the routes are set.

Are your route ok? And ifconfig? (just for check! ;)

I compiled my kernel with
CONFIG_FIREWALL=y
CONFIG_IP_FORWARD=y
CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL=y
CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL_VERBOSE=y
CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE=y

plus all masq. specific support.


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Re: pon and poff -- need to be updated....

1997-07-01 Thread Dave Cinege
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:20:24 -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote:

On Jun 30, Dave Cinege wrote
 Shouldn't pon/poff contain the following instead of full scripts?

What about those of us who don't start PPP at boot?

/etc/init.d/ppp works fine either way. Take a look at it.

I edited pon and poff on my router. I regularly use it to start and stop ppp
channels on the fly. (I'm running EQL)

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DuhDraw/libcurses.so.1

1997-07-01 Thread Randy Edwards
   I wanted to play around with DuhDraw, an ANSI editor, and got the
complaint that it wanted the library libcurses.so.1 which isn't on my
system.  Looking on sunsite and different places I'm unable to locate that
library.  Recompiling duhdraw just gives me a segmentation fault and a core
dump.

   Does anyone know where I can locate libcurses.so.1 or any way other that I 
can make duhdraw happy?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: X Free 3.3-3, bug??

1997-07-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Adam Shand wrote:

 I have just installed all the X packages (xbase, xserver-svga etc) on my
 Thinkpad laptop 755CX.  I was having troubles and assumed it was my
 inexperience with X that was doing it :)
 
 I now have a friend here who is familiar with X and now that we are playing
 properly with it we have found that it doesn't seem to be finding our
 XF86Config file.  The file is kept in /usr/X11 and there is a link to it in
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11??
 
 It is dying with the error that no appropriate screen resolutions can be
 found.  Does anyone know what this could be or do you need more details?
 
Sounds like you chose the wrong card information. Did you install this
with dselect? Did you use the xbase configuration options?

If you move your XF86Config file out of the way (save it under a different
name) you should be able to run xbase-configure and rebuilt this file. You
should change the Xserver file to point to VGA16 for the configuration,
and then return to your prefered server after the configuration. If you
choose the correct card from the list the problems should go away.

Luck,

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Wine and xpm

1997-07-01 Thread Will Lowe
I'm trying to compile wine ... we don't seem to have a package for it,
understandable,  since it's only in alpha at the moment.

Anyway,  I put the source in /usr/local/src/wine,  run the config scripts
and then run make,  but it complains that it can't find /X11/xpm.h ... I
_do_ have xpm installed,  but find says I don't have an xpm.h file
anywhere on my disk.  Should I install xpm source?  And if so,  where does
it go?


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Re: Wine and xpm

1997-07-01 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas

On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

 I'm trying to compile wine ... we don't seem to have a package for it,
 understandable,  since it's only in alpha at the moment.
 

There is (or was don't know if it's still there) a version in
experimental.  If there isn't will you debianise it?  I've always wanted
to try it out.

 Anyway,  I put the source in /usr/local/src/wine,  run the config scripts
 and then run make,  but it complains that it can't find /X11/xpm.h ... I
 _do_ have xpm installed,  but find says I don't have an xpm.h file
 anywhere on my disk.  Should I install xpm source?  And if so,  where does
 it go?

xpm.h is in the package xpm4.7-dev from section x11 (Hmm why not devel?)

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debian for amiga?

1997-07-01 Thread Jens R.
hello,
i`m a new amiga-user in this list.
here my question:
is there any amiga package of debian available?

thanks for replies

Und Tschüss
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Re: Wine and xpm

1997-07-01 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

 Should I install xpm source?  And if so,  where does it go?

Install the debian xpm#.#-dev package. dpkg will put it where it should
go. Cheers.

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Re: kernel 2.0.30 causes masquerading problems

1997-07-01 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas


On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

 
 
 Hi,
 
 
 I think the problem isn't related with 2.0.30, since I use it with
 IP masq. enabled without any problem for two subnets of win3.x, Linux, and
 win95.
 

You are right!

 From your script, the main difference I can see is that I firstly
 deny access:
 ipfwadm -F -p deny
 ipfwadm -F -a m -S ${NETWORK1}/24 -D 0.0.0.0/


Other people have asked me about this.  Actually the order doesn't seem to
make a difference.  The way I had it was working for a long time.
 
 I put these lines in the /etc/init.d/network, after my
 devices are configured with ifconfig and the routes are set.
 
 Are your route ok? And ifconfig? (just for check! ;)
 
 I compiled my kernel with
 CONFIG_FIREWALL=y
 CONFIG_IP_FORWARD=y
^
This turned out to be the problem.  Somehow I managed to uncheck this
option.  I've added it back again and recompiled and now everything works
the way it used to.  

Many thanks to all who responded.  This list is great!

-- Jaldhar

PS.  For anyone who is interested in IP masquarading, here is a good
resource:

http://www.wwonline.com/~achau/ipmasq



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Re: DuhDraw/libcurses.so.1

1997-07-01 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas

When you recompile, make one small change to the Makefile.  Change any
instances of -lcurses to -lncurses.  That should do the trick.  (Note you
will have to have the ncurses-dev package installed.)

You may also be able to link libcurses.so.1 to libncurses.so.3.0 but I
think recompiling may be a better idea.

-- Jaldhar
 
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Randy Edwards wrote:

I wanted to play around with DuhDraw, an ANSI editor, and got the
 complaint that it wanted the library libcurses.so.1 which isn't on my
 system.  Looking on sunsite and different places I'm unable to locate that
 library.  Recompiling duhdraw just gives me a segmentation fault and a core
 dump.
 
Does anyone know where I can locate libcurses.so.1 or any way other that I 
 can make duhdraw happy?  Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: X Free 3.3-3, bug??

1997-07-01 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Dale Scheetz, you wrote:
 
 On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Adam Shand wrote:
 
  I have just installed all the X packages (xbase, xserver-svga etc) on my
  Thinkpad laptop 755CX.  I was having troubles and assumed it was my
  inexperience with X that was doing it :)
  
  I now have a friend here who is familiar with X and now that we are playing
  properly with it we have found that it doesn't seem to be finding our
  XF86Config file.  The file is kept in /usr/X11 and there is a link to it in
  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11??
  
  It is dying with the error that no appropriate screen resolutions can be
  found.  Does anyone know what this could be or do you need more details?
  
 Sounds like you chose the wrong card information. Did you install this
 with dselect? Did you use the xbase configuration options?
 
 If you move your XF86Config file out of the way (save it under a different
 name) you should be able to run xbase-configure and rebuilt this file. You
 should change the Xserver file to point to VGA16 for the configuration,
 and then return to your prefered server after the configuration. If you
 choose the correct card from the list the problems should go away.

I have found that XF86Setup and xf86config write to different files.
The GUI version writes into the /usr/x11r6/lib/x11 dir, where it moves
the existing config gile to .old . The only problem with this is that
the old 'file' is the other end of the symlink from /etc/x11, which is
where xf86config writes.

Tim

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Re: [Q] How to create a FTP only account.. for...

1997-07-01 Thread System Account

On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:

 Rob,
 
 I have the same problem.  Could you email me any answers that you get by
 personal email?  Would greatly appreciate it.  I am on the mailing
 list.  So I would get to see the emails that come to the mailing list.
 
 Sudhakar

Hello Sudhakar, fellow debianers, :)

First thanx to everyone who helped me on this. The ftp web
accounts are all working great now. 

There really wasn't alot that really had to be done but this is exactly
what how i have it setup. You may wish to place things else where

cd /
mkdir webftp

drwxr-sr-x   7 root root 1024 Jun 29 22:58 webftp

Now copy the /home/ftp/bin lib and etc dir to /webftp

cp -ap /home/ftp/bin /webftp
cp -ap /home/ftp/lib /webftp
cp -ap /home/ftp/etc /webftp
  I also copied and changed the welcome.msg aswell.

I added another directory here where the user accounts go /webftp/web.
Change the group of the web dir to webusers

cd /webftp
mkdir web

drwxr-xr-x   4 root webusers 1024 Jun 29 21:48 web

Then add a group to /etc/group and place the users in that group. I'll use
webusers as the group and user1 and user2 as the users.   

webusers:*:109:user1,user2

And add this line to your /etc/ftpd/ftpaccess file. This allows all users
in the group webusers to ftp in and saves you from having to add a
guestgroup for each user.

guestgroup  webusers 

Now just add your users and edit the /etc/passwd file (always using
caution when doing this. I'd recommend makeing a passwd.bak just in case)
You need to change the users home path to:

user1:passwd:5000:5000:Web User:/webftp/./web/user1:/bin/true
user2:passwd:5001:5001:Web User:/webftp/./web/user2:/bin/true 

*Make sure you add /bin/true to /etc/shells

Remember to move the users home directory to /webftp/web with the perms

drwxr-xr-x   2 user1   user1   1024 Jun 29 23:05 user1 
drwxr-xr-x   2 user2   user2   1024 Jun 29 23:05 user2

With these permissions all the users can cd to the other accounts and see
what they have. I really don't see this as a problem as everything there
will be accessable via the web anyways. change the permissions as you see
fit.

Now they can ftp in and put stuff in thier own directories (but not
others). I made the /webftp/web dir for the users home dirs and added a
index.html to /webftp/web to include a listing of all the system
users. 

One optional thing i did was to make a link:

ln -s /webftp/web /home/www-data/web
This was created so none of these users needed a public_html file. they
just need to put thier files in thier home directories. The url would then
be http://www.your.site/web/user1. No ~ is needed before user1.

Hope this helps you out. 

-Rob


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Re: Wine and xpm

1997-07-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

 I'm trying to compile wine ... we don't seem to have a package for it,
 understandable,  since it's only in alpha at the moment.
 
 Anyway,  I put the source in /usr/local/src/wine,  run the config scripts
 and then run make,  but it complains that it can't find /X11/xpm.h ... I
 _do_ have xpm installed,  but find says I don't have an xpm.h file
 anywhere on my disk.  Should I install xpm source?  And if so,  where does
 it go?
 
You probably need the xpm4.7-dev package. Most runtime libraries will have
a -dev package that contains the headers necessary for compilation.

Luck,

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determining serial link speed?

1997-07-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Hi!

Is there any easy way to find out, what speed my modem connected to
the ISP? (using ppp  chat on Debian Linux m68k Amiga).

I want to be sure that it connected at 28800 baud and not at 14400.


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Re: determining serial link speed?

1997-07-01 Thread Lawrence
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 Is there any easy way to find out, what speed my modem connected to
 the ISP? (using ppp  chat on Debian Linux m68k Amiga).
 
 I want to be sure that it connected at 28800 baud and not at 14400.
 

pppstat -n 1 will display the throughout (in/out) in byte per second.

Lawrence


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Re: Matlab for Debian?

1997-07-01 Thread Bruce Perens
You might also see if Octave will satisfy your needs (it's a free package).
There's also something called scilab that was once in non-free, I don't
know if it is still there.

Thanks

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Re: determining serial link speed?

1997-07-01 Thread Shaya Potter

besides checking what speed you set in your ppp.options file, run pppstats
-i 1.  This should show you how much data is being transfered per second.
you should have it somewhere in the high 2000's.  run an ftp session from
a closs machine to test it.

Shaya


On 1 Jul 1997, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

 
 Hi!
 
 Is there any easy way to find out, what speed my modem connected to
 the ISP? (using ppp  chat on Debian Linux m68k Amiga).
 
 I want to be sure that it connected at 28800 baud and not at 14400.
 
 
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Re: XFree86: bad inconsistent state of xserver-vga?

1997-07-01 Thread Bruce Perens
The 1.3 CD has X 3.2, wait for the 1.3.1 if you want 3.3, or use FTP.
You still might have to go through some contortions with dpkg to get out
of your current wedged state - I'll let people who know that better tell
you how to do it.

Don't wait for 2.0 with the dselect replacement, although the team is working
hard there's no working prototype yet.

Thanks

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Re: determining serial link speed?

1997-07-01 Thread Bruce Perens
Oh, mine _connects_ at 33.6, but then it renegociates and falls back to
21.x in one direction and 24.x in the other. So telling what it
connects at isn't necessarily useful.  I know what is going on because
I have one of the external Supras on the other end of the connection
and it reports the speeds on the front panel.  I use minicom to connect
once in a while just to check what the modem says when it connects.

Thanks

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Re: Matlab for Debian?

1997-07-01 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

 You might also see if Octave will satisfy your needs (it's a free package).
 There's also something called scilab that was once in non-free, I don't

Yes! Scilab is in non-free. I would give it a chance.

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Re: pon and poff -- need to be updated....

1997-07-01 Thread Dave Cinege
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:10:43 -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote:

 On Jun 30, Dave Cinege wrote
  Shouldn't pon/poff contain the following instead of full scripts?
 
 What about those of us who don't start PPP at boot?
 
 /etc/init.d/ppp works fine either way. Take a look at it.

No, it doesn't.  It exits if the file ppp_on_boot doesn't exist:

#! /bin/sh
# /etc/init.d/ppp: start or stop PPP.

FLAGS=start 20 2 3 4 5 . stop 20 0 1 6 .
# NO_RESTART_ON_UPGRADE

test -x /usr/sbin/pppd -a -f /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot || exit 0

OK, forgot about this. So then we need to edit /etc/init.d/ppp

This should do it:

if [ $2 -ne '-m ] || [ $2 -ne --manual ]; then
test -x /usr/sbin/pppd -a -f /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot || exit 0
fi


pon-
/etc/init.d/ppp start -m

poff-
/etc/init.d/ppp stop -m


Fixed!

 I edited pon and poff on my router. I regularly use it to start and stop ppp
 channels on the fly. (I'm running EQL)

The current behavior suits me just fine, 

Don't care if it suits anybody. It is sloppy, and more work to maintain.

and it also performs some permission checks.

Basiclly usless. I believe SSD already does this.


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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!

1997-07-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 01, 1997 at 11:00:22AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
   BN == Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  BN Two possibilities come to mind:
  
  BN FIPS (at ftp.debian.org in /debian/tools), [...]
  
  BN Partition Magic, a commercial program which [...]
  
 

 Does both of these also support moving a partition, not just resizing?
 
 Partition Magic 2 at least won't move or do anything to ext2fs.
 It also tends to be pretty cryptic if it thinks there's anything
 wrong with a partition table; just gives an error and won't touch
 the disk; no error message, just a code.
 
 I would think 3.0 would be better in this regard, but I haven't seen it.

Neither will do anything to an ext2fs partition.  3.0 does correctly
recognize it, however and I believe it will mark an unallocated partition
as type 82/83.

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Re: dselect CDROM method - Room for improvement?

1997-07-01 Thread Joey Hess
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen:
 I think this is quite slow(goes through all packets every time), so I
 use the following instead:
 
 * mount /cdrom/
 * use the FTP method, which effectively copies the file to a directory
   on hard disk, and installs from there.  Much faster, but a bit too
   complicated, perhaps.
 
 Could these maybe combine into a new method, skipping the FTP bit, and
 just make symlinks (or copy the file into a directory) and install
 from there instead. Or is it a good reason for going through the whole
 CDROM each time?

Check out the dpkg-mountable package (in unstable). It's faster than
dpkg-ftp, and has the smarts to just install the packages you want, not go
through the entire list.

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Debian Amiga...

1997-07-01 Thread Dave Cinege
On 1 Jul 97 18:44:13 +, Martin Steigerwald wrote:


Hi!

Is there any easy way to find out, what speed my modem connected to
the ISP? (using ppp  chat on Debian Linux m68k Amiga).

How is Debian Linux running on your Amiga? I have two 3000's here that I've 
been having a hard time selling (because I can't bare to get rid of them)

Is a 68K version of Apache available? If I could find reasonably priced 
10BaseT ethernet cards they may make good webservers.

Are you able to use ext2, etc? Any big limitations? 

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.gz ??? what, how?

1997-07-01 Thread David Miles

I need to read information in manual.txt

when I went to the /usr/doc/lilo subdirectory, the closest filename that
resembled this was Manual.txt.gz

This is not readable by an editor.  Is there something special about the
.gz??




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Re: .gz ??? what, how?

1997-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij


On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, David Miles wrote:

 I need to read information in manual.txt
 
 when I went to the /usr/doc/lilo subdirectory, the closest filename that
 resembled this was Manual.txt.gz
 
 This is not readable by an editor.  Is there something special about the
 .gz??

It is GZipped. you can unzip it with `gunzip', or use `zmore' instead of
`more', or `zless' instead of `less'. Ofcourse, these are all pagers. But
I bet there's some emacs mode to read and write gzipped files.

`man gzip' is your friend.

Cheers,


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Re: .gz ??? what, how?

1997-07-01 Thread dpk
.gz -- gzip extension.

gzip is a program used to compress files, comparable to .zip files in
dos/windows.   To un-gzip a file the command is gzip -d filename.gz or
gunzip filename.gz, same thing.  Then you can read it as a regular text
file. I prefer using: zcat filename.gz |less.  zcat uncompress the file
to standard output for reading and piped through less to control the
scroll.  This way you can keep your documents compress for storage,
without the hastle of uncompressing them all the time.  For more info look
up manpages on gzip, gunzip, tar, zcat, zgrep...

Dennis

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 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 03:57:44 -0600 (MDT)
 From: David Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: .gz ???  what, how?
 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:51:05 -0400
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 
 
 I need to read information in manual.txt
 
 when I went to the /usr/doc/lilo subdirectory, the closest filename that
 resembled this was Manual.txt.gz
 
 This is not readable by an editor.  Is there something special about the
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RE: determining serial link speed?

1997-07-01 Thread Peter . Yarych . gandolph

On 01-Jul-97 Martin Steigerwald wrote:

Hi!

Is there any easy way to find out, what speed my modem connected to
the ISP? (using ppp  chat on Debian Linux m68k Amiga).

I want to be sure that it connected at 28800 baud and not at 14400.

/var/log/ppp.log should tell what the connect speed was 


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Re: .gz ??? what, how?

1997-07-01 Thread Civ Kevin F. Havener
Try:   zless file.name.gz (may not need the .gz)
or lynx file.name.gz  (not sure here either)

On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, David Miles wrote:

 
 I need to read information in manual.txt
 
 when I went to the /usr/doc/lilo subdirectory, the closest filename that
 resembled this was Manual.txt.gz
 
 This is not readable by an editor.  Is there something special about the
 .gz??
 
 
 
 
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Re: XFree86: bad inconsistent state of xserver-vga?

1997-07-01 Thread Laurent Bonnaud

 Bruce == Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce 
Bruce The 1.3 CD has X 3.2, wait for the 1.3.1 if you want 3.3, or use FTP.

The XFree 3.3 packages appeared in bo-updates, but they are not there
anymore and were not moved into bo (as some other packages).  I asked
myself if they had been withdrawn.  Now you confirm the inclusion of
XFree 3.3 in Debian 1.3.1, so this is good news.

I'm waiting for 1.3.1 to order a CD, so what about the release date ?
Another user asked the same question, but it was not answered.  I'm not
asking a very precise date but something like probably before august
or certainly not before september.

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Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) Black cable.

1997-07-01 Thread Nils Rennebarth
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On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Colin R. Telmer wrote:

I have just tried to get two APC Smart UPS v/s 650s up and running in my
department but unfortunately, genpower does not support the cable,
2) I have found another non-debian package called apcupsd which does
   support this cable and most other APC cables. It also supports smart
   mode which is not supported in genpower.

 Moreover, it is GPLd. I would
   be happy to package this for debian if there is no objections/some
   demand. 

Any comments? Cheers, Colin.
apcupsd is derived from apcd by Pavel Korensky [EMAIL PROTECTED], but
unfortunately without a configuration file (many parameters selected at
compile time) and without slave support.

I thouroughly hacked apcd for private use adding the following features:
- - Close and reopen logfiles on HUP signal.
- - Make shutdown dependent on the remaining battery load.
- - Slave uses init for shutdown.
- - Master uses shutdown code from lates sysvinit (2.71)
(Not mentioning many code cleanups)

On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried using apcd at one point which supported smart-signalling.
Unfortunately, it did system shutdown itself instead of telling the
system to shut down and this was unacceptable.

I choose to run shutdown by itself because I had to assure that the last
action on master is to shut down the ups. Instead I should probably follow
the genpower approach and supply a small program that does this from the
command line.

Apart from this, apcd is ready as a debian package but I didn't find the
time to upload it, feed the changes back to the upstream maintainer, etc.

Whoever wants this package, drop me an email.

A further project might be a program able to communicate with a java applet
to enable monitoring the ups from any java capable browser. This might then
be a complete functional replacement for APC's power-chute software, and
even better because it will work over the net on any client. But I can't
tell when time allows this...

Nils

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Dselect replacement?

1997-07-01 Thread Linux dist. research
I saw a reference to a possible future replacement for dselect.  Does
anyone know about this?

Chip

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Re: .gz ??? what, how?

1997-07-01 Thread Lawrence
David Miles wrote:
 
 I need to read information in manual.txt
 
 when I went to the /usr/doc/lilo subdirectory, the closest filename that
 resembled this was Manual.txt.gz
 
 This is not readable by an editor.  Is there something special about the
 .gz??
 

command 'most' will do it.

Lawrence


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cant load root floppy

1997-07-01 Thread Donald L.Wilson Jr.
ive downloaded all the disks images and used rawrite
to write them to floppys. i have low memory so i have
to use the `lmemroot.bin' disk image. i boot up with
the rescue disk, type `ramdisk0' load the ramdisk and
push enter. then the computer says
  `Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00'

please help


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Re: Compiling a new kernel

1997-07-01 Thread joost witteveen
 In the instructions that came with the kernel source package, Linus
 recommends making symlinks in the include directory to directories in the
 usr/src/linux/arch directory.
 
 I also remember reading that libc5-dev contains a set of headers.
 
 Someone on the list recommended that the directories in the include
 directory shoudln't be deleted and made into symlinks. Is this correct?

Yes, it's correct. But it's got very little (actually nothing) to
do with compiling the kernel (the symlinks you are talking about is
so that user-programmes can see parts of the kernel, something
that nowadays isn't very usefull any more. That's why Debian libc5,
and anyone's glibc(=libc6) do it differently).

 Also is glibc the same as libc6? 

Yes.

 if so why?

Basically, because glibc comes after libc5. The soname
of libc5 is, you guessed it, 5. Because gnu libc is a major step
forward, the soname had to be changed (increased).
This leaves us with a gnu libc that has a soname 6, and thus we
(and the rest of the linux world) call it libc6.

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #413

1997-07-01 Thread Seth Vidal
I have been upgrading my debian 1.3 distribution -  to some of the files in
unstable.

After I did this I get errors everytime update-menus runs.

It just core dumps.

Any ideas on why/how to fix it.

Thanks

-sv
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Re: Wine and xpm

1997-07-01 Thread Alair Pereira do Lago
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Will Lowe wrote:
 
  I'm trying to compile wine ... we don't seem to have a package for it,
  understandable,  since it's only in alpha at the moment.
  
 
 There is (or was don't know if it's still there) a version in
 experimental.  If there isn't will you debianise it?  I've always wanted
 to try it out.

... And if you wanna get a more recent version of wine, get the newest source,
use the wine-alpha*.diff to debianize the new source and build the
package. Very simple.

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an archive of packages to downgrade to?

1997-07-01 Thread m*
is there such an archive where i can get, let's say a 1.3.3 version
netatalk package?

thanks,

m*

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Re: pon and poff -- need to be updated.... Dean Carpenter when you mail someone include a return address!

1997-07-01 Thread Dave Cinege


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update-menus broken with libc6 upgrade

1997-07-01 Thread Seth Vidal
I have been upgrading my debian 1.3 distribution -  to some of the files in
unstable.

After I did this I get errors everytime update-menus runs.

It just core dumps.

Any ideas on why/how to fix it.

Thanks

-sv
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Re: .gz ??? what, how?

1997-07-01 Thread Peter S Galbraith

  This is not readable by an editor.  Is there something special about the
  .gz??
 
 It is GZipped. you can unzip it with `gunzip', or use `zmore' instead of
 `more', or `zless' instead of `less'. Ofcourse, these are all pagers. But
 I bet there's some emacs mode to read and write gzipped files.

jka-compr

Putting the following line in ~/.emacs:

 (require 'jka-compr)

you can then simply edit a gzipped file and Emacs will uncompress it
automatically.
(Funny how an non-Debian specific question still generates so many
responses on this list!)

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Re: Dselect replacement?

1997-07-01 Thread Greg Vence
Linux dist. research wrote:
 
 I saw a reference to a possible future replacement for dselect.  Does
 anyone know about this?
 
It's called the 'Diety' project.  The last time I asked (about a week
ago), the response was Patience Grasshopper.  They are about to
announce another major milestone.

The main engine will allow for several UI's  (www, x, text).  Also, it
will better support the networked servers(Debian Repositories) and
clients(Machines needing installation and management).

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Re: .gz ??? what, how?

1997-07-01 Thread John Foster
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

   This is not readable by an editor.  Is there something special about the
   .gz??
  
snip
 (Funny how an non-Debian specific question still generates so many
 responses on this list!)

Not really. What we have here is a real problem for the newbies.

To access the documentation you really need to be able to access
the documentation. Then you can determine what is (and isn't) a Debian
specific issue. Having a system which can hold the newbies' hand till
they can walk for themselves has probably never been a design goal for
Debian, but I think that the user base is growing at such a rate that
it could be time...

Perhaps there should be a quick intro to gzip, zless and zcat in the
opening scripts (just after the first dselect run?).

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1.3.1 release date.

1997-07-01 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Laurent Bonnaud wrote:

 I'm waiting for 1.3.1 to order a CD, so what about the release date ?
something like probably before august
 or certainly not before september [?]

This would be nice to know.  CDs are cheap, but the time investment we
make playing with them isn't.

(Salut Laurent !)

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V97 #413

1997-07-01 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

I just ran into this problem a bit ago. Actually, the menus package seems
to require that you have libg++27 and libg++272 installed to work.
Versions I have are:

ii  libg++272.7.2.1-9  The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).
ii  libg++272   2.7.2.5-1  The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).

That should fix your problem with update-menus.

J. Goldman



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Re: Wine and xpm

1997-07-01 Thread Will Lowe
On 1 Jul 1997, Alair Pereira do Lago wrote:

 ... And if you wanna get a more recent version of wine, get the newest source,
 use the wine-alpha*.diff to debianize the new source and build the
 package. Very simple.

Wait - you're saying that creating a new updated debian package for wine
1.0 would be to apply win-1.0*.diff to the .deb?
Will

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xemacs20 Dumps Core

1997-07-01 Thread Victor Torrico
Hi,

xemacs19 works fine on my i586 machine.

Unfortunately after installing xemacs20  xemacs20-support  and then
rebooting and running xemacs20 it dumps core.  Have the error messages
and gdb messages (around 8K) if anyone wants them.

Any help sincerely appreciated.

Cheers,

Victor Torrico


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Re: USR Modem Hangs Intermittantly

1997-07-01 Thread David B. Teague
 Subj: RE: USR Modem Hangs Intermittantly
 
 I have the same problem with my OEM USR Sportster 28.8!  However, I only

 
 Anybody have any suggestions for us?
 
 Thanks,
 Brian 
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This behaviore is a well-known bug in the USR Sportster and other
modems, both internal and external. If the ATS12=0 does not work,
USR  tells me that you have to  requrest an RMA and mail your
modem in to USR.

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Re: USR Modem Hangs Intermittantly

1997-07-01 Thread David B. Teague

 Subj: RE: USR Modem Hangs Intermittantly
 
 W Paul Mills wrote:

  
  On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Britton wrote:
  [...]
[...]
  
  I think you need to add S12=0 to your init string.
  
 
 That's odd, a quick look at my Sportster manual says S12 sets the 
 'guard time for the escape code'. Where did you get this info about
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I got it right off the USR web page! exit
I don't understand why it 
is supposed to work either!

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Re: irqtune: insmod failed on '/usr/lib/hwtools/irqtune_mod.o'

1997-07-01 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On 30 Jun, Hong Huang wrote:
 
 Got this error on my Debian 1.3 system:
 
 kernel: 2.0.30 compiled with loadable module support
 
 hwtools: 0.2-5
 
 moduils: 2.1.34-5
 
 Any idea what's wrong?  Thanks
 
Yes.
This is from a mail I sent some time ago:

Apparently hwtools does not contain the most recent version of irqtune.

Using irqtune 0.5 will solve your problems.

I have addressed the package maintainer about this.

Two solutions:

1. Wait for the new hwtools package.

2. Get the irqtune 0.5 from the website.
   You don't have to recompile, just copy irqtune_mod.o and irqtune
   from the tar to /sbin . Then change the invocation of
   irqtune in /etc/rc.boot/hwtools from
   irqtune
   to
   /sbin/irqtune

++

What happens is that insmod dumps core. You can test it by calling
insmod directly, not through irqtune. This happens if you have compiled
the kernel with mod_versions=yes (so far as I know).

I have contacted the package maintainer about this, but didn't get a
answer and there is no new version out (or I have missed it).
Maybe I should file a bugreport.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: determining serial link speed?

1997-07-01 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On  2 Jul, Lawrence wrote:
 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 Is there any easy way to find out, what speed my modem connected to
 the ISP? (using ppp  chat on Debian Linux m68k Amiga).
 
 I want to be sure that it connected at 28800 baud and not at 14400.
 
 
 pppstat -n 1 will display the throughout (in/out) in byte per second.
 

I left my modem's speaker on (my cheapo modem sometimes falls back to
14.4 (other side: ascend 5200) or just hangs during negotiation (other
side: ascend 4000); seems like I have to check my config after exams).

So I *hear* if the modem falls back to 14.400. There is a change in the
negotiation sound.

BTW: whats pppstat ? I don't have this prog.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: 1.3.1 release date.

1997-07-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

 
 Laurent Bonnaud wrote:
 
  I'm waiting for 1.3.1 to order a CD, so what about the release date ?
 something like probably before august
  or certainly not before september [?]
 
 This would be nice to know.  CDs are cheap, but the time investment we
 make playing with them isn't.
 
The release of 1.3.1 will be announced soon. Currently the archive is
being worked on to get the new files in place. Once that is done and the
mirrors have caught up you will see an announcement. Probably before the
end of the week.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: cant load root floppy

1997-07-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Donald L.Wilson Jr. wrote:

 ive downloaded all the disks images and used rawrite
 to write them to floppys. i have low memory so i have
 to use the `lmemroot.bin' disk image. i boot up with
 the rescue disk, type `ramdisk0' load the ramdisk and
 push enter. then the computer says
   `Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00'
 
You are trying too hard. Simply boot up the rescue disk (don't type
anything at the boot: prompt. Simply press enter). The system will ask for
the lmemroot floppy at the appropriate time. Follow the directions and
everything should go from there.

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