Connecting up of a dumb terminal.

1998-02-23 Thread Alistair Phillips
Hi there fellow Linux users!

I have managed to get my Linux side up and running.  Boy is linux sure
great!  I have an old 286 here that I would like to use as a dumb terminal.
 I know that I would have to connect the two computers up via a serial
cable and run a terminal program on the other end.  I would like to connect
it to my IBM on com2.  Please can you explain to me in great detail what it
is that I must do to do this.  Many thanks!  BTW, please reply to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as I am not subscribed to the list.

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AOL IM

1998-02-23 Thread jf
Hello,

AOL IM just seg faults in hamm and leaves a core file. How do I use the 
core file? It is for debugging isn't it? I am not sure how to start tracking 
down the problem so any hekp would be appreciated.

Thanks


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formatting a tape

1998-02-23 Thread Paul Miller

How can I format (not erase) a QIC-80 tape in Linux?

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Re: new hamm nmh breaks header rewriting, isp becomes irate

1998-02-23 Thread john
Daniel Martin writes:
 You may also want to ensure that the visible_name used is something other
 than localhost, which is what it appears to be set to.  Unfortunately,
 the only way I've found to do that (without having a name registered with
 .dyn.ml.org)

I've got a name, but my isp still bounces my mail if I use it, accusing me
of attempting to use them as a relay.

 ...is to rewrite /etc/smail/config each time ip-up is called.

I found that setting visible_name to my isp's domain works:

visible_name=win.bright.net

(my popmail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

 One of these days I'm just going to get fed up and write a mailer
 designed for dialup systems which need to rewrite headers on the way out
 and may well have no consistent name...

What does Win95 do?
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Fileserver and Streamer Jukebox

1998-02-23 Thread Lutz Mueller
Hi,

I'm going to install a file server for different Clients (10 Macs, 15
PCs
and 8 SGIs) in our department.

Does anybody have got any experiences in the following terms:

1) Performance: How fast is Linux in comparison to commercial
servers. They increased the network performance with 2.0.3x a lot,
didn't
they. Does it make sense to use Linux on alpha, is it necessary to have
good (better than PII/300 MHz) CPU Performance when the traffic
increases on fast Ethernet?

2) We also want to save our data, so does anybody know something about
jukeboxes for streamers (4GB, better 8GB)? Did you have trouble with
the installation and how does it work? 

Sure, this is not debian specific question, so I will ask it also in the
Newsgroups. So please don't worry.

Bye Lutz



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Re: a problem with headers (Was: in search for Mr. Scheetz)

1998-02-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm using elm+sendmail+popclient to send/receive my mail. On my outbound 
 mail, I
 use elm to properly rewrite the header with my POPaccount address. It used to
 work, but Mr. Scheetz's ISP does (or at least this is what I have understood) 
 some checks on mail headers to reject spam.
 My mail messages seems to originate from my machine, which is not permanently
 on internet and has no valid DNS name. Since this name doesn't resolve, my
 messages can't reach Mr. Scheetz directly since they're taken as spam (coming
 from a fake address).
 Once upon a time I used to masquerade (in sendmail) my local machine name with
 my ISP name. This was the only way known to me at that time to make the return
 address come out right. When I discovered (thanks to this list again) the elm
 header rewriting function, I stopped masquerading. I tried to revert to this
 solution, but it doesn't seems to work (take a look at my header) now.
 
 Now my questions are:
 1. how can I make my messages reach Mr. Scheetz (and everybody who has spam
address check)?
 2. is there a way (preferably with sendmail, but I'm evaluating all 
 suggestions)
to masquerade only outbound messages (I have a small LAN and masquerading
makes mail stop working on my LAN)
 

You too might try the genericstable-feature of sendmail.

Just put this

8-- snip --8
## Custom configurations below (will be preserved)
FEATURE(genericstable)dnl
8-- snip -8

at the end of your /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and create a file
/etc/genericstable with user/mailname pairs inside like this

8-- /etc/genericstable ---8
your_Username_At_Home   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
8-8

Rerun sendmailconfig.

This should work as long as the domainname of your ISP isn't know
for spamming and all mail coming from there is rejected by Mr. Scheetz.

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Re: Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message)

1998-02-23 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Bill Leach wrote:

 William R. Ward wrote:
 [snip]
  I've never seen much point in svgatextmode, personally - you can get
  80x50 from LILO, isn't that enough?

The 80x50 LILO can give me, also gives me 8x8 pixel characters. Using
SVGATextMode I have 116x51 using 16x9 pixel characters. Readable
characters are enough reason for me.

 I'm all for giving everyone as many options as practical but
 SVGATextMode is one that I plan on leaving off of my system.
 
 Quite fortunately, for me, after running Linux of several flavors for
 years, I finally opted to make xdm start on boot.  Good thing, SVGA Text
 Mode failed miserably (with the default configuration) but of course X
 worked fine.  I even tried booting into single user before playing
 around with SVGA Text Mode just to see if it was possible.  Turns out
 that a serious problem with SVGA Text Mode is about as bad as a problem
 with BASH (assuming BASH is your default shell of course).

But if you haven't configured SVGATextMode properly it shouldn't start at
all at boot time. First configure it and be confident that it really
works on your hardware, then make it start at boot time.

Also, if you are unable to read the console, it still is a console. Log in
blindly and type stm 80x25, and you should get the default 80x25 mode.

 Additionally, I either never could quite figure the thing out properly
 but when switching to a console under SVGA Text Mode from X the last row
 of pixels was lost on ALL console screens.  To me it just seemed to
 quirky but will readily admit that except for 1) the potental
 inconvenience of not being able to get a console at all and 2) the
 quirky behaviour I experienced going to consoles from X, SVGA Text Mode
 can give you some really wonderful console displays on a high resolution
 monitor.

1) is solved by not doing things too fast, 2) is probably a timing problem
that can be solved by tuning the video mode.

Remco


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SMC EtherPower II 10/100

1998-02-23 Thread Clement
From the h/w compatible list, I found support for SMC EtherPower
10/100.  Does anyone know if the newer EtherPower II 10/100 is
supported?  If yes, what is the driver and do you hear of any trouble
with that card?

Thank you very much.

Regards,

Clement

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Re: bitchx configuration

1998-02-23 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 10:50:41AM -0800, Adam Klein wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 01:45:37PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
  hmm.. that directory does exist, bitchx is using a list though..
  
  What is the format for /etc/irc/servers??
 
 I don't know.  All mine has is one line containing my default server.

its:
server:port
server:port
etc..
:)


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Re: Mutt error - Can't find mailbox

1998-02-23 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 05:01:43PM -0600, IBMackey wrote:
 I can't seem to get mutt to work, it keeps saying it can't find a mailbox
 or other. I never had this problem with pine.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 i.b.

Older versions of mutt say that if your mailbox doesn't exist, ie
/var/spool/mail/username, it has been fixed in the new ones (I think). 
Either that, or its looking for your mailbox in the wrong place..


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mutt

1998-02-23 Thread Norbert Veber
I've just upgraded mutt to version 0.89.1-3 a few days ago, and I noticed
that its no longer in color, in the docs there is a color keyword for the
muttrc that allows one to change the color of certain things in the program,
but all I really want is for it to look the way it did before the upgrade..
:)  Any way to do this?  Also the other really annoying thing is the way
messages are marked old if the folder has been opened, and the messages
haven't been read, how the hell can I turn that off?? :)


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New Linux user

1998-02-23 Thread CDALEDAVE
Hello, I just received and installed Debian Linux, and I've gotten up to the
DSELECT part.  I have the files it wants on CD, but I can't get Linux to
recognize my CDrom drive, which is a Matshita CD-ROM CR-581.  It keeps saying
something about ISO 9660, I don't remember if that was the file system or
what.  I found the file system the CD drive uses, it is CDFS, as reported by
Norton Utilities. I'm beginning to think Linux was a bad idea for me; I
thought that just because DOS doesn't scare me I could do it.  If anyone could
help me out or point me in the right direction, I'd be most thankful.

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Re: dpkg secrets

1998-02-23 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, David Stern wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is there a nice way to determine when I installed a package?  
 
 Right now I'm manually comparing my /var/lib/dpkg/status* files.

One way to see when you last installed or upgraded a package, is to look
at the modification time of the /usr/doc/package-name directory, since
at least one new file (the new changelog) is installed into this
directory at every upgrade.

Not a very nice way, but it works for the majority of the packages.

Remco


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Re: Jetdirect

1998-02-23 Thread Carlo U. Segre
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Asher Haig wrote:

 How do I go about setting up linux to print to a Jetdirect printer? The 
 HP page is useless. From what I see, it appears that I need to set it up 
 with lpd as a tcp/ip printer. Does that mean that I have to have an 
 additional IP address on my network for the printer (if so, is there any 
 way around that?)?

We have set up our Jetdirect this way.  The Jetdirect card needs an IP
address if it is on a TCP/IP network (which I presume your Linux box is on
too).  Once the IP address has been assigned, the Jetdirect acts like a
standalone lpd to whcih you can feed data from a Linux printqueue.  There
are a couple of tricks to making it work properly.  One is to make sure
that you have turned off the header page (I had to upgrade the Jetdirect
firmware to do this).  The other is to have the proper queue name in your
printcap.  I have enclosed mine below:

lj4m|ls178_hp4m|First Floor Department LaserJet:\
 :lp=/dev/null:\
 :rm=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:\
 :rp=text:\
 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ls178_hp4m:\
 :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
 :af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
 :lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

Once you have the queue established, you can serve it to any Windows95
machines on the network by using samba.

I am not aware of any way of getting around the requirement of having an
IP number for the Jetdirect.  You could always connect the preinter
directly to the parallel port of a Linux box and then set up a queue and
serve it to the rest of the network.  I have done this with a
non-Jetdirect HP LaserJet but I much prefer the jetdirect solution.

Good Luck,

Carlo

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Re: stm (was Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message))

1998-02-23 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

 On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Bill Leach wrote:
 
  William R. Ward wrote:
  [snip]
   I've never seen much point in svgatextmode, personally - you can get
   80x50 from LILO, isn't that enough?
 
 The 80x50 LILO can give me, also gives me 8x8 pixel characters. Using
 SVGATextMode I have 116x51 using 16x9 pixel characters. Readable
 characters are enough reason for me.
[snip]
 But if you haven't configured SVGATextMode properly it shouldn't start at
 all at boot time. First configure it and be confident that it really
 works on your hardware, then make it start at boot time.

As a matter of interest, who is using SVGATextMode with an S3 ViRGE and a
1024x768 capable monitor? if I try to go above 80x30, the characters on
the left hand side of the screen get all screwy, and sometimes the left of
the screen is cut off at the 10thish column and is repeated from there...
So I use LILO to give me 80x34 :)

Any Ideas?

   Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Xdm, utmp, who and finger

1998-02-23 Thread Will Lowe
Users who are logged onto my machine in X on the console (running xdm)
don't have a utmp (or wtmp?) entry -- they don't show up in who listings
and finger user shows
last logged in (sometime) 
rather than on since (sometime).

Is this normal?


Will


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Re: SMC EtherPower II 10/100

1998-02-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
   From the h/w compatible list, I found support for SMC EtherPower
   10/100.  Does anyone know if the newer EtherPower II 10/100 is
   supported?  If yes, what is the driver and do you hear of any trouble
   with that card?

Yes, it is supported.  You need to get the driver from
http://cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/linux/drivers/ and compile it for
your kernel.

I have one of these cards, but I had trouble with it.  I swapped it
out for an NE2000 and I'm in the process of returning it to SMC for a
replacement, as it seemed to be defective; my machine would crash once
day or so before I removed it.  The local computer company tells me
they've had a lot of defective ones, actually.  But I still like SMC,
personally.


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Re: stm (was Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message))

1998-02-23 Thread Benoit Goudreault-Emond
 As a matter of interest, who is using SVGATextMode with an S3 ViRGE and a
 1024x768 capable monitor? if I try to go above 80x30, the characters on
 the left hand side of the screen get all screwy, and sometimes the left of
 the screen is cut off at the 10thish column and is repeated from there...
 So I use LILO to give me 80x34 :)
 
 Any Ideas?

I am.

My own text mode is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  My settings:

--- snip ---
ChipSet S3
ClockChip S3Virge
Option XFAST_DRAM
# The following line might be what you're missing...
Option S3_HSText
option 16color
# You may be missing this as well -- apparently, you must make sure to
# load fonts at high frequencies
Option LoadFont
FontProg /usr/bin/setfont
FontPath /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts
# The following font is not in the package -- I grabbed it off sunsite's
# console fonts pack.
FontSelect sans-16   8x16 9x16 8x15 9x15 
# The following fonts were kept as default -- I don't use them
FontSelect Cyr_a8x14   8x14 9x14 8x13 9x13
FontSelect 8x12alt.psf 8x12 9x12 8x11 9x11
FontSelect Cyr_a8x88x8  9x8  8x7  9x7
FontSelect Cyr_a8x32   8x32 9x32 8x31 9x31

FontProg /usr/bin/setfont -u def.uni
HorizSync 30-66
VertRefresh 50-110
DefaultMode 80x25
80x25  28.3640  680  776  800400  412  414  449 font  9x16
#
# This is the mode I use.  I had to mess with the first, second, fourth
# and fifth values to center.  I basically tried until I got something
# reasonable, so I can't really give some hints besides keep a console
# with stm 80x25 always ready at the prompt, and your finger on the
# monitor's power off switch (just in case you give bad settings)
#
custom  55   800  878  922 1042615  615  616  650 font  8x16

--- snip ---

I hope that will be of some use to you.

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Re: ipx_configure: socket: Invalid argument ?

1998-02-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

INSTALLATION NOTES:

Before you go any further, please allow me to point out that you need to
have a few other packages installed before you can compile your own kernels
(it is difficult to compile anything without a compiler ;-). 

Firstly, you will need gcc, the libc development package (libc5-dev or
libc6-dev at the time of writing), and, on Intel platforms, bin86. [If
you use the menuconfig target of make, you will need ncursesX.X-dev,
and make xconfig also requires tkX.X-dev, and other packages these
depend on]

The packages suggested are:
devel:gcc, libc5-dev/libc6-dev, binutils, make, and, for intel
  x86 platforms, bin86 (non-Intel platforms don't need
  this).
interpreters: awk, which is contained in either the mawk or gawk packages
base: gzip, shellutils, and grep.

Some of these packages are marked essential, and hence are going to be
present on your machine already. Others you have to check and install.

Of course, pretty gui front ends to kernel configuration require more
packages, but they are not strictly essential (though quite nice really). 

Oh, and of course, make-kpkg is part of kernel-package, usually found
in section misc.


 For the Brave and the impatient:
1% cd kernel source tree
2% make config   # or make menuconfig or make xconfig and configure
3% make-kpkg clean
4% make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image 
5% dpkg -i ../kernel-image-X.XXX_1.0_arch.deb
6% shutdown -r now # If and only if LILO worked or you have a means of
   # booting the new kernel. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!

 With the addition of fakeroot ( a really nice program, I recommend
 it) Steps 1 to 4 can be carried out as a non root user. Step 5 does
 require root priviledges.  

 Detailed instructions

Then, remember to change the revision number (using the --revision
option of make-kpkg).  It has been suggested that you renumber the
revision number in such a way that a generic kernel image package will
not override the custom package while using dselect (or dpkg
-BOGiE). You may also do this on the fly by setting the
DEBIAN_REVISION environmental variable.

The revision number (the argument supplied after the --revision flag)
has certain constraints: 
a) It only has an effect during the configure phase (in other words, if a
   file called stamp-configure exists, this option has no effect -- run
   make-kpkg clean or manually remove stamp-configure for it to have an
   effect).. So, if you re-run make-kpkg with a different revision number,
   you have to reconfigure the kernel. 
b) It may contain only alphanumerics and the characters + . (full stop,
   and plus) and should contain a digit.  NOTE: No hyphens allowed. (Look
   at Chapter 5 of the Programmers manual for details) Optionally, you
   may prepend the revision with a digit followed by a colon (:); this
   shall put your revision into a new epoch; (which makes older dpkg very
   confused), more on this later.

You should _not_ use a _ in the revision number! As tempting as it may
seem, it actually interferes with the policy.

The revision number is required because dpkg imposes an ordering on
version numbers, so that it can tell whether packages are being up or
downgraded and so that dselect can tell whether a package it finds
available is newer than the one installed on the system. Dselect uses
an option that prevents a package from being downgraded, for example.

Packaged kernel-images in the distribution also have a version number -
not at all coincidentally coinciding with the kernel version, because it
is used to reflect the upstream version number. Note that the kernel
version is also part of the package's name, thus it appears twice in the
package's file name. It also gets a debian revision number relating to
differences in builds. It then looks like: 
  kernel-image-2.0.29_2.0.29-8.deb

I've found that using a two-level scheme where the major level starts
with a letter nicely does the job -- unless epochs are used,
(--revision custom.Y, so the image package become
kernel-image-X.X.XX-custom.Y.deb), and dselect and dpkg -BOGiE will
refuse to downgrade to a generic kernel (don't give the BOG arguments
to dpkg if you actually do want to downgrade later).

The reason for telling kernel-package that the package has a version
custom-x.y.whatever.you-want.to+add.more-just.do.not+use.an=underscore 
is that to dpkg that is always a higher version number than any version
number starting with a numeral ( eg. a  2 like b  a. ) This way,
dselect will not try to upgrade your roll-it-yourself kernel-image when
the a new build of the distribution default kernel appears in the archive. 


Unfortunately, this fails if the upstream maintainer uses epochs to
correct a version misnumbering;-(. The good news is that you can add
your own epoch to your customized image, ugly though that may
be. (--revision 1:custom.Y; the kernel image file shall remain
kernel-image-X.X.XX-custom.Y.deb, but dpkg 

Re: How to track hard drive seeks?

1998-02-23 Thread Lindsay Allen

On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Is there some program that I can use to monitor what programs are
 seeking the hard drive?  Some program, system call, or something is
 causing a quick seek to my root partitions hard drive every second or
 two.  I don't know what it is and I would like to find out.  My root
 partition(everything except /home) is a 3.2G partition(/dev/hda5) on a
 new WD 6.4G udma drive.  I have used hdparm -d1 -c3 -S 241 on the
 drive(/dev/hda) but disabling those options doesn't stop it. 
 I don't recall this happening on the old drive that the root partition
 used to be on, a WD 1.2G eide drive(now /home on /dev/hdb2).
 
 Any pointers would be great,
 Thanks,
 
 Brian 

Have a look at update.  On _one_ of my debian boxes it accesses the drive
twice every five seconds and it is driving me up the wall.  The other
boxes just sit here quietly. 

It gets started in /etc/init.d/single (and maybe other places as well.)
You could experiment by using update -f 30 and see what effect that has
on things, but be it on your own head.

Lindsay

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Re: New Linux user

1998-02-23 Thread Anthony H. Rossmeier

Hello CDALEDAVE,

I hope you have more success than I did getting information from this
bunch.  I had similar problems with my CDRom and left messages for help
and never got anything back from any of them.  It sounds like you have a
proprietary CDRom and those seems to have a little problem being seen by 
linux.  I think it has something to do with the sound card stopping
linux from seeing the address of the CDRom.  If its an IDE and not a
proprietary, then try plugging it straight into your motherboard or
the IDE interface that will make it easier to be seen.
  Another source of info would be your area users group, go to the
Linux home page and look for the users group in your area they are
the ones that helped me.
  Don't give up so soon though, it's only a computer.  It might take you a
little more time but you'll get it.
  I'd give yu more info but I'm a newbie too and that speaks for itself.
One thing I can say, make sure ALL of your hardware is supported.

Some points of reference:
   The Linux Home Page-  Look under FAQ's and How-To's
www.redhat.com-  They have some generalized info that might
 helpful

I wish you luck

Sincerely,

Anthony R   

On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello, I just received and installed Debian Linux, and I've gotten up to the
 DSELECT part.  I have the files it wants on CD, but I can't get Linux to
 recognize my CDrom drive, which is a Matshita CD-ROM CR-581.  It keeps saying
 something about ISO 9660, I don't remember if that was the file system or
 what.  I found the file system the CD drive uses, it is CDFS, as reported by
 Norton Utilities. I'm beginning to think Linux was a bad idea for me; I
 thought that just because DOS doesn't scare me I could do it.  If anyone could
 help me out or point me in the right direction, I'd be most thankful.
 
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Re: Seagate Baraccuda drives and Adapetc AHA1460 controller prob.

1998-02-23 Thread Stephen Zander
 Bill == Bill Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill I am 'just clutching at straws here' but in the past there
Bill have been some drives that 'lie' to the SCSI bus about their
Bill capability during the scsi inquire.  Some of these things
Bill typically 'hang' the scsi bus (requiring a time out/reset)
Bill but others could be 'partially implemented' or at least
Bill implemented in such a manner that the driver/interface can
Bill not handle.  I would suggest disabling
Bill 'disconnect/reconnect' or 'Synchronous SCSI' and see if that
Bill helps.

Further clutching at straws on my part reveals that the disk is seen
fine under NT (on the same laptop with the same card), and the VFAT
volume I created under NT is OK under linux.  The following is a
sample of the error sequence:

SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 3 lun 0 return code = 2701
scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 56410, absolute sector 56442
SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 3 lun 0 return code = 2701
scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 56376, absolute sector 56408
SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 3 lun 0 return code = 2701
scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 56806, absolute sector 56838
SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 3 lun 0 return code = 2701
scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 57158, absolute sector 57190
SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 3 lun 0 return code = 2701
scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 57158, absolute sector 57190

I've now resigned myself to redoing the work I'd moved to this disk (no,
it isn't backed up) and am going to leave a low-level SCSI format running
overnight on the assumption that I've violated the drive geometry somehow.

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Re: lprng

1998-02-23 Thread Carey Evans
Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 but printing a page from netscape or that page saved to a file
 from the command line still fails.   Running lpstat shows:
 
 printer [EMAIL PROTECTED] online. enabled since 13:57:55. available
  RankOwner/ID  Class  Job  Files
 error   [EMAIL PROTECTED]A   443  ERROR: aborting operations
 on job [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm not sure where I'd start trying to fix this.  You can try
lpq - to get more info from the queue, and check
/var/log/lpr.log and similar files.  You can also use lpc to remove
and restart print jobs.

 Is there a magicfilter setup, or something?   TIA

I gues magicfilter would use the bj10e driver.  You could test it
with

# /usr/sbin/bj10e-filter  file.ps  file.bj; cat file.bj  /dev/lp0

or whatever, and see what happens.

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Re: New Linux user

1998-02-23 Thread Richard B. Talley
On 22 Feb 98 at 21:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't get Linux
 to recognize my CDrom drive, which is a Matshita CD-ROM CR-581.  It keeps
 saying something about ISO 9660, I don't remember if that was the file
 system or what.

CR-581 is a standard IDE/ATAPI drive.
It's often bundled with sound cards. Is that your setup?

ISO 9660 is a standard file system for CD-ROMs; NU is just saying it sees 
a CD. What is the *exact* error message you are getting?

Did you read the CDROM-HOWTO?


Richard B. Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web 
page appears to
be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little 
chance of reading
a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another 
network.
-Tim Berners-Lee in Technology Review, July 1996 
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Q: Sendmail outgoing From: mapping

1998-02-23 Thread ninjaz
Hello, I'm having a bit of difficulty using the /etc/userdb.db method to
map usernames.  

I think the problem is coming in with this step:

-- from sendmail faq --
 First, create your input file. This should have lines
   like:

loginname:mailname  DifferentName
DifferentName:maildrop  loginname

   Install it in (for example) /etc/userdb. Create the database:
makemap btree /etc/userdb.db  /etc/userdb
--

Is anyone familiar with what goes in these fields?  In trying to map
outgoing mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I've
tried making the /etd/userdb source file contain: 

crodrick:crodrick   support
support:maildropcrodrick

and a few variations on this (making sure to tab delimit..)


Below are the steps I've taken, which might help rule out suggestions
regarding obvious errors:

I've installed the sendmail.cf file as outlined in the sendmail FAQ at
www.sendmail.org, and used sendmailconfig to install the new .cf from the
.mc file restart the daemon. I've looked at /etc/sendmail.cf to verify
that it's actually being installed with the options I've chosen.  Test
messages from this account to local and remote locations still contain the
real from: address.

Thanks.

-pete


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RE: Exim gone from Hamm?

1998-02-23 Thread George Bonser
I must have caught the site while they were moving thigs around. I see exim is
back and is at a higher revision.



On 22-Feb-98 George Bonser wrote:
 
 I just updated a local mirror of Debian and I noticed that while it did not
 grab any new packages, it removed a few ... including Exim.  Is exim gone
 from
 Debian? I manually checked ftp.debian.org and sure enough, no exim in hamm.
 
 
 
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two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-23 Thread Jameson Burt
I seek to use one computer with two full X-windows users.
This would be a cheap in time/money approach for my wife and I simultaneously 
using Linux.
I believe I could get a dummy terminal working through the serial port,
then display on a second monitor (though I don't know any approach for a 
second mouse).
Is this reasonable, or is there another approach?
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Re: Connecting up of a dumb terminal.

1998-02-23 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Alistair Phillips wrote:

 : I have managed to get my Linux side up and running.  Boy is linux sure
 : great!  I have an old 286 here that I would like to use as a dumb terminal.
 :  I know that I would have to connect the two computers up via a serial
 : cable and run a terminal program on the other end.  I would like to connect
 : it to my IBM on com2.  Please can you explain to me in great detail what it
 : is that I must do to do this.  Many thanks!  BTW, please reply to
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I am not subscribed to the list.

It isn't that difficult :-)


Make sure you properly setup the /dev/ttyS1 (com2) on the Linux box, using
setserial. Now connect them, en add something to inittab - 'man inittab'
will be your friend.

And if you're a bit lucky, after setting up the Terminal-program on your
286, it should work fine!


bye, 
Remco


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Re: New Linux user

1998-02-23 Thread David Stern
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 21:57:32 EST, wrote:
 Hello, I just received and installed Debian Linux, and I've gotten up to the
 DSELECT part.  I have the files it wants on CD, but I can't get Linux to
 recognize my CDrom drive, which is a Matshita CD-ROM CR-581.  It keeps saying
 something about ISO 9660, I don't remember if that was the file system or
 what.  I found the file system the CD drive uses, it is CDFS, as reported by
 Norton Utilities. I'm beginning to think Linux was a bad idea for me; I
 thought that just because DOS doesn't scare me I could do it.  If anyone coul
 help me out or point me in the right direction, I'd be most thankful.

Assuming that you have an ide/atapi cdrom, which someone said is true, 
and I think I read somewhere is true, then you probably need to make 
sure dselect or the installation program can find your cdrom.

If it's connected to your soundcard's ide port, this may well be a 
problem.  The best solution is to connect the cdrom to one of cables 
for the ide connectors that are attached to the motherboard.  You can 
use a spare connector on your hard drive cable if it has one (some 
don't).

Your cdrom may also need to be set for the position on the cable 
(master or slave), so read your cdrom manual or look at the switches or 
jumpers on it if they exist.  Anways, when you're done with all that, 
see if the install program finds your cdrom.  If you need to specify 
the cdrom device during install (I forget how that goes), let this be a 
guide, and if one doesn't work, try another.

first ide port, master  /dev/hda
first ide port, slave   /dev/hdb
second ide port, master /dev/hdc
second ide port, slave  /dev/hdd

I also would recommend you read a good Linux book and keep it close by. 
 One of my favorites is Running Linux, by O'Reilly publishing.  You can 
often get package deals at www.lsl.com with runnign linux and a debian 
cdrom for a pretty good deal. There's also a book for new debian users 
you can buy or get a free copy of online, and you can find a link to it 
at the debian website, www.debian.org   You will also want to become 
very familiar with the howto's man pages and other documentation which 
comes with linux.  There's a wealth of information, but it takes some 
reading and use to get down.  Take your time.
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Re: dpkg secrets

1998-02-23 Thread David Stern
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:28:22 +0100, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, David Stern wrote:
 
  Is there a nice way to determine when I installed a package?  
  
  Right now I'm manually comparing my /var/lib/dpkg/status* files.
 
 One way to see when you last installed or upgraded a package, is to look
 at the modification time of the /usr/doc/package-name directory, since
 at least one new file (the new changelog) is installed into this
 directory at every upgrade.
 
 Not a very nice way, but it works for the majority of the packages.

I never even knew that directories time/date were modified when a file 
was written, but I see you're absolutely correct, and this is a pretty 
cool idea.

Thanks. :-)

btw: I'm not ignoring anyone, I intend to tackle the header deal in the 
morning.

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Re: new hamm nmh breaks header rewriting, isp becomes irate

1998-02-23 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Daniel Martin writes:
  You may also want to ensure that the visible_name used is something other
  than localhost, which is what it appears to be set to.  Unfortunately,
  the only way I've found to do that (without having a name registered with
  .dyn.ml.org)
 
 I've got a name, but my isp still bounces my mail if I use it, accusing me
 of attempting to use them as a relay.

It's behavior like this that really gets me annoyed with spammers -
things would be so much easier if people with mail servers didn't have 
to take these paranoid attitudes.

  ...is to rewrite /etc/smail/config each time ip-up is called.
 
 I found that setting visible_name to my isp's domain works:
 
 visible_name=win.bright.net

I suppose this works; my problem with it is that then some mail
messages generated locally will appear to have come from some account
at your isp - I suppose this isn't usually something to worry about,
but it just doesn't seem clean...

  One of these days I'm just going to get fed up and write a mailer
  designed for dialup systems which need to rewrite headers on the way out
  and may well have no consistent name...
 
 What does Win95 do?

In general, it makes a lot of assumptions that a machine with a
multiuser OS can't.  In fact, the role smail fills simply doesn't
exist on (most) Win '95 boxes - there is no MTA, and the MUA does both 
collection (from pop or imap boxes) and delivery.  (Much in the way
that pine might be used on a unix system without any smtp program).
Win95 also never has to worry about local mail. (with only one user,
where's it gonna go?)

I'm drawing up a list of how I'd like a mail program to behave in my
environment; so far, these are the requirements:
Local mail is just delivered locally; no fuss or hassle about
forwarding local mail on to one's ISP unless that's very explicitly
requested.
Headers (including the RFC822 envelope) are rewritten transparently
and accurately.  This means that, for example, Sender: lines from my
machine would become something like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(i.e. the Sender: line would depend on the dns name of the ip address
the message leaves the machine by), and that the From: line would
match the envelope address, if the From: line was requested to be
rewritten.
Access to outgoing mail can be restricted for certain users; however,
postmaster can opt to receive each bounced message and ok certain
messages for delivery to the rest of the world.
Another machine/other machines can be treated as local, and not
subject to the rewritting rules.
Mail relaying... I'm not certain what I'd want the behavior to be in
this case - probably just disallow relaying entirely, except to/from
local machines.

Can anyone else think of other features the ideal MTA for dialup
machines should have?


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Re: Motif

1998-02-23 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 Thanks... , This is my output.. obviously no Motif.. Is it in a particular
 package? and should I have more thaa this output?
 

Motif is not free.  You can buy it from several vendors.  Which puts up
a question.  What are people's experiences with different kind of motif
distributions in combination with debian?  Will the libraries coninue to
work after a libc5-libc6 transition?  Are there distributions with
source that allow you to rebuild the libraries if this would be
necessary?

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Re: Motif

1998-02-23 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Beattie) writes:

 Thanks... , This is my output.. obviously no Motif.. Is it in a particular
 package? and should I have more thaa this output?

The other way you'd know you had Motif is that your wallet would be
feeling a bit lighter.  :-(  It's not at all free, and doesn't come
with (or for?) Debian.

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Re: C locale

1998-02-23 Thread Carey Evans
Corey Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I recently installed Debian 1.3.1 and keep getting the following
 errors concerning the C locale. This first one is given whenever I install
 most debian packages (assumably the ones whose scripts use perl).
 
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed for the categories:
 LC_CTYPE LC_COLLATE 
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LC_ALL = (unset),
 LC_CTYPE = (unset),
 LC_COLLATE = (unset),
 LANG = us

There is no us locale.  EN_us is the closest.  One of your startup
scripts is setting the env. variable LANG incorrectly.

IIRC StarOffice does this.  Look though /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile
and ~/.bashrc, and any scripts that they call.

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Re: ipx_configure: socket: Invalid argument ?

1998-02-23 Thread Carey Evans
Luke Kendall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

 However, I guess Debian's module configuration is not tied to
 the options chosen for the kernel link (via make xconfig), so
 now it's complaining about various modules that are no longer
 found (like ipx, ne, arp, ...).  I can run modprobe I guess to
 clean this up.

Try running depmod -a.  This will clean up your
/lib/modules/2.0.32/modules.dep, which might be the problem.

 1) Given a kernel source .tar.gz, what is the accepted way to
build a new kernel in Debian?

Use kernel-package.

 2) Now that I've done it in a way that bypasses dpkg, what should
I do to make Debian completely happy again?  Modprobe?

Make a kernel using kernel-package and install it.  Compare its files
(dpkg -L kernel-package-2.0.32) with the ones in /lib/modules and
delete the extras (carefully!).  Delete modules.dep, and reboot.

Edit /etc/modules and/or /etc/conf.modules and make sure they reflect
the new state of your system.

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Re: New Linux user

1998-02-23 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes:

 Your cdrom may also need to be set for the position on the cable 
 (master or slave), so read your cdrom manual or look at the switches or 
 jumpers on it if they exist.  Anways, when you're done with all that, 
 see if the install program finds your cdrom.

You can check to see what's been found with dmesg | more.  From the
rescue disk, type Alt-F2 and use that console.  Look for something like:

hdc: FX600T, ATAPI CDROM drive

The I can use /dev/hdc, in this case.

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Re: Xdm, utmp, who and finger

1998-02-23 Thread Carey Evans
Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Users who are logged onto my machine in X on the console (running xdm)
 don't have a utmp (or wtmp?) entry -- they don't show up in who listings
[snip]
 Is this normal?

Yes.  You can try adding a line use-sessreg to /etc/X11/config,
which the /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup script will see and try to add a utmp
entry.  I don't think it worked when I tried it, but I didn't try very 
hard, and that was a while ago.

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Re: How to track hard drive seeks?

1998-02-23 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there some program that I can use to monitor what programs are
 seeking the hard drive?  Some program, system call, or something is
 causing a quick seek to my root partitions hard drive every second or
 two.

Try using strace to see what all the daemons are doing.  Most will
just be sitting there in a select or accept waiting for a connection
somewhere, or waiting for a few minutes to see if something's changed

Other programs keep accessing files, which changes the access time and
means the disk needs to be updated.

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Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-23 Thread Carey Evans
Jameson Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I seek to use one computer with two full X-windows users.
 This would be a cheap in time/money approach for my wife and I simultaneously 
 using Linux.

It might be worthwhile finding a cheap 386 or 486 with a good graphics
card.  Install a minimum of programs on it, just the X server.  If you
run xfs on your main computer, you won't even need the fonts.  You
could do this with even a 200 MB hard disk, I think.

You *will* need 2 network cards for this, but setting up two computers 
on a network under Linux is easier than some single-computer stuff.  X 
is probably too slow over serial.

(Just another option.)

It is easy to plug in two mice, dodgy to plug in two monitors, but
pretty much impossible to plug in two keyboards at the moment, IMO.

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Re: SMC EtherPower II 10/100

1998-02-23 Thread Clement
Thank you very much for your information.  Your last comment, however,
makes me a little bit confused.  I have been using the SMC 10Mbps Tulips
base card and they work very well.  

In the 100Base-TX market, what do you suggest is the more reliable card?

Among manufactures like 3Com, SMC and Intel, which one do you think is
better to work with Linux?

I have several Taiwan made 10/100Base PCI Ethernet cards using in our
Win 95 boxes.  They perform well and the price is half of the SMCs.   It
is a real petty that there is no driver to use with Linux!

Ben Pfaff wrote:
 
From the h/w compatible list, I found support for SMC EtherPower
10/100.  Does anyone know if the newer EtherPower II 10/100 is
supported?  If yes, what is the driver and do you hear of any trouble
with that card?
 
 Yes, it is supported.  You need to get the driver from
 http://cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/linux/drivers/ and compile it for
 your kernel.
 
 I have one of these cards, but I had trouble with it.  I swapped it
 out for an NE2000 and I'm in the process of returning it to SMC for a
 replacement, as it seemed to be defective; my machine would crash once
 day or so before I removed it.  The local computer company tells me
 they've had a lot of defective ones, actually.  But I still like SMC,
 personally.

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Clement

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elm-me+ doc Exasperation

1998-02-23 Thread Art Lemasters
Does good documentation for elm-me+ for dialin users exist on the
Web?  I also noticed that dungeon, or php, or pj96n06 are listed as 
required at
http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/mail/elm-me+.html

and no MTA or POP program is mentioned.  Thanks to anyone
who can help.

Art Lemasters


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elm-me+ doc Exasperation

1998-02-23 Thread Art Lemasters
 Let me rephrase that.  I am looking for *configuration* info
for a dialin setup in particular.  E.g., should I get fetchmail?
Thanks.

--- Forwarded Message Follows ---
Does good documentation for elm-me+ for dialin users exist on the
Web?  I also noticed that dungeon, or php, or pj96n06 are listed as 
required at
http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/mail/elm-me+.html

and no MTA or POP program is mentioned.  Thanks to anyone
who can help.

Art Lemasters


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What happens with bo when hamm becomes 2.0

1998-02-23 Thread Gunnar Isaksson
I noticed that the old rex release disappeard from
the debian ftp site and it's mirrors soon after bo
was released.

Will bo also end up in /dev/null ?

Personally I would like to continue with bo until
debian 2.1 get's released but if there is no ftp
site that carries updates on bo packages I don't know
to do. I have become so spoiled by the stability of bo
that I believe anything else must be inferior.

  //Gunnar
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What happends with bo when hamm becomes 2.0 ?

1998-02-23 Thread Gunnar Isaksson
I noticed that the old rex release disappeard from the debian ftp site
and it's mirrors soon after bo was released.

Will bo also end up in /dev/null ?

Personally I would like to continue with bo until debian 2.1 get's
released
but if there is no ftp site that carries updates on bo packages I
don't know
to do. I have become so spoiled by the stability of bo that I believe
anything else must be inferior.

  //Gunnar

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Re: AOL IM

1998-02-23 Thread Oliver Elphick
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  Hello,
  
   AOL IM just seg faults in hamm and leaves a core file. How do I use the
   core file? It is for debugging isn't it? I am not sure how to start tra
  cking down the problem so any hekp would be appreciated.

A core file is not much use for debugging unless it was produced by an
executable that contains debugging symbols.

In order to use it, you need gdb (use info to read gdb's documentation).

Very simply:

  $ gdb executable_path corefile_path

Then you're in interactive mode.

Print the backtrace (which shows the tree of internal calls starting with 
the one that crashed:

bt

If there were debugging symbols, you should see meaningful names; if
not, it will just be hex addresses.


Another route to understanding your problem is to use strace (`man strace' 
for documentation).  This will show you what kernel functions are being
used and might help you understand what's happening.


You are on hamm, so the problem might be to do with mixed libraries:
use ldd to find out what shared libraries the executable is wanting.


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PAM: where to get the binaries using PAM

1998-02-23 Thread Florian Helbing

Hi,

I am running Debian 1.3.1 and I've written some configuration files
for PAM but unfortunately the login and other programms in the
distribution do not make any use of the PAM libraries. So could someone
please tell me where to find login, ftp, ... etc. which use the PAM
authentification libraries.

Thanx in advance


Florian

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partition table

1998-02-23 Thread Helmut Leinfellner
Hi !

I have two harddisks:
/dev/hda is for Win95.
/dev/hdc (4.3 GB) is partitioned:
1) swap for linux (64K)
2) linux (1GB)
3) primary DOS (2GB)
4) another DOS (4-part, 250 MB each)

Linux works fine, but Win95 (which boots from the first drive /dev/hda)
doesn't recognize the partitions of /dev/hdc. That is, it gives wrong
results as far as the sizes of the partitions are concerned.

What now?

Can anyone help me please ?   :D

Thanks, Helmut



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What will happen to bo when hamm becomes 2.0 ?

1998-02-23 Thread Gunnar Isaksson
Gunnar Isaksson wrote:

I noticed that the old rex release disappeard from the debian ftp site
and it's mirrors soon after bo was released.
 
Will bo also end up in /dev/null ?

Personally I would like to continue with bo until debian 2.1 get's
released but if there is no ftp site that carries updates on bo
packages I don't know to do. I have become so spoiled by the stability
of
bo that I believe anything else must be inferior.
 
  //Gunnar

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Re: innd suck (fwd)

1998-02-23 Thread Istvan Matyasovszki
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:29:48 +0100 (CET)
From: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Istvan Matyasovszki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: innd  suck

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I would like to ask you to send me some samples of
  configuration files of a news server using innd combined with suck to get
  news messages  from  a  remote server , or if you can recommend a better
  solution send it too ,

Please, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks.

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Re: Motif

1998-02-23 Thread Alex Yukhimets
  Thanks... , This is my output.. obviously no Motif.. Is it in a particular
  package? and should I have more thaa this output?
  
 
 Motif is not free.  You can buy it from several vendors.  Which puts up
 a question.  What are people's experiences with different kind of motif
 distributions in combination with debian?  Will the libraries coninue to

Metrolink Motif 2.0.1 worked more then fine for me. Unfortunately,
in libc6 system you will need to somehow reconfigure the loader to make it
think that libXm.so.2 is libc5 and not libc6 linked. On the other hand,
Metrolink already has libc6 (glibc2) version of Motif 2.1 for Linux.

 work after a libc5-libc6 transition?  Are there distributions with
 source that allow you to rebuild the libraries if this would be
 necessary?

Nope.

Alex Y.

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Re: Kermit: Where is it???

1998-02-23 Thread David Wright
On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Thomas J. Malloy wrote:

 On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, David Wright wrote:
 
  The kermit protocol is built into minicom (along with *modem).
 
   The kermit protocol on most communications programs should not be 
 confused with the true kermit program from columbia university.  True 
 kermit is a very fast communication protocol/program with many advanced 
 features. 

I don't know what you mean by true kermit. There is a kermit protocol 
and the kermit programs use it. Kermit programs also have terminal 
emulations, user interfaces, scripting languages, and communications 
drivers where necessary. You can use these parts of kermit programs in 
the same way as, for example, minicom and never touch the kermit protocol if 
you wish, including error-uncorrected file transfer.

The kermit protocol is open and anyone, or any program, can use it. 
(Yes, I've even used it myself, typing raw kermit packets into a vax 
for testing.) Various parts of the protocol are optional, and the protocol 
defines how to negotiate with another machine which capabilities are 
recognised and supported by both parties.

 By contrast the kermit transfer protocol in most programs is 
 very slow because they only allow a maximum packet size of 93, and no 
 sliding windows.

That usually means that those programs are old, or that the author 
couldn't be bothered to support more capabilities, or wouldn't fork 
out for a book describing the protocol. Of course, kermit suffers from 
its own good design: because the dumbest implementation can interoperate 
with the most modern, the former is never forced to upgrade in order to 
accomodate the latter (unlike most software). You may need to upgrade 
for other reasons of course, e.g. not supporting modern line speeds.

So perhaps by true kermit you just mean one with, say, long or extra 
long packets and sliding windows.

Cheers,

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Re: Frozen Mouse

1998-02-23 Thread David Wright
On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Why not just add -R to the gpm configuration and use /dev/gpmdata and 
  MouseSystems in XF86Config; then you can have both.
 
 Doesn't the gpm man page says that what you are suggesting doesn't apply to 
 serial mice ?

If that's the way you understand it, then I think you should submit a bug 
report against the man page. Here's the paragraph:

   With X11 gpm has the same problems as selection.  If  your
   mouse  is  a  single-open  device  (i.e. a bus mouse), you
   should kill gpm before  strating  X,  or  use  the  ``-R''
   option  (see above).  To kill gpm just invoke gpm -k. This
   doesn't apply to serial mice.

To what does This refer? I think it means forget this entire 
paragraph if you have a serial mouse, not just the previous sentence.
But it's ambiguous.

In any case, all my bo systems use gpm -R, and /dev/gpmdata with 
MouseSystems in X. Some are pentiums with PS/2 mice, some are 486s with 
serial mice.

BTW, hands off GMT please. We need it here, at least during the wintertime.

Cheers,

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Debian Linux and Non-Free Packages.

1998-02-23 Thread Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131
Hello all,

Could someone please explain the concept of Non-Free Packages please (i.e. Pine
etc).

It is just that I don't understand why other distributions can include them in
there official releases, where as debain can not.

Also on another note, does anyone knoe if there is a graphical front end to the
ipfwadm (Firewall) program?  If not then I am currently considering writing
one.  The current plan is to produce both a  ncurses version, and a HTML
version.  But why reinvent the wheel if there is already one.

Regards

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Customizing TOP...

1998-02-23 Thread Jay Barbee
Hello Debain Users,

I am wanting to customize TOP, but I cannot find the system's RC 
file.  The man page says it should be in /etc/toprc.   I guess I 
could also create ~/.toprc, but now that I cannot find the system 
file, I am curious where these defaults are kept.

Thanks
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netscape communicator

1998-02-23 Thread Martin Pelikan
Hi

I installed Netscape Communicator 4.04 on my debian 1.3.1 updated to
libc6 and it just writes that it cannot load libXpm.so.4
I have installed xpm4g_3.4j-0.6.deb and the library file is there in
/usr/X11R6/lib.

what might be the problem?

before updating to libc6, this version of netscape worked normally.

thanx for your help,

Martin


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Re: Seagate Baraccuda drives and Adapetc AHA1460 controller prob.

1998-02-23 Thread Bill Leach
Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll try disabling both of these  see how things go.  Are either of
 these likely to cause intermittent access problems?  Given that
 running badblocks doesn't produce any kernel error messages, it
 occurs to me that this could be a disconnect/reconnect issue. 
 'Synchronous SCSI' is disabled when the driver is loaded; I don't
 think it should be re-enabling itself later.

I am not sure that I have seen either of these cause problems in an
intermittant fashion.


 SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 3 lun 0 return code = 2701
 scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 56410, absolute sector 56442

None of my documentation has an error code even remotely close to the
format of the one above.  You might want to look at the scsi code header
files or contact the drive manufacture on the chance that it is a 'sense
key' message from the drive.


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Re: Viewing bootup message

1998-02-23 Thread Lindsay Allen

On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 On 20 Feb 1998, William R. Ward wrote:
 
 : Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 :  On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 :   On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 09:11:27PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 :How can you view the entire list of messeges that show when you boot 
 into
 :linux? It all either scrolls by too fast or too much read/decipher as 
 it
 :rolls off the top. Is there a file that mirrors that output or 
 someway I
 :can re-direct it to a file for perusal?
 :   
 :   dmesg will show you the kernel stuff, eg dmesg | less. Most of 
 :   it is in the logs in /var/log too. There's no way (that I know of)
 :   to see all the non-kernel stuff.
 :  
 :  I could shift/page right back to the bios messages after startup until I
 :  upgraded svgatextmode (currently Version: 1.8-4.)  Now I cannot go back
 :  past whatever is on the screen when svgatextmode starts.  Has anyone got a
 :  fix for this?
 : 
 : I've never seen much point in svgatextmode, personally - you can get
 : 80x50 from LILO, isn't that enough?
 
 Sure, if you've got a 15 monitor, and have never used a 132 column
 monitor.  However, this argumant is pointless as it doesn't fulfill the
 purpose of the list - address the user's question.
 
 At any rate, I believe the new version of stm resets the screen when it
 starts, so that gpm will work as advertised (if you start gpm, then
 start stm, and don't send a SIGWINCH (iirc) to gpm, it still thinks
 you're in a 80x25 window.  Ugly)  I suppose this reset is causing your
 inability to scroll back.
 
 I'm not a master with stm, gpm, but I think there is a way to _not_ run
 stm on one of your consoles.  Is there?  If you don't use gpm, you could
 comment out the reset program in the stm config file ... or, even if you
 do use gpm you could try this.
 
 I'll try it out on my Compaq monday at work.  Until then, this is mostly
 conjecture.
 
 HTH,


I have spent quite some time on this one.  Reverting to the bo
svgatextmode does not help.  The thing that makes the difference is the
particular font chosen.  If I use 80x25, 80x25x9 or 80x25x8 I can still
scroll right back to the bios messages.  But if I use 116x34x9 I cannot
scroll back at all.  It appears, then, that a significant change of font
causes a reset.  


Thanks to all who helped.  I guess I'll have to accept things as they are.

Lindsay

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NCR53c406a problems

1998-02-23 Thread Corey Miller
Hello, I own the Acculogic ISApport 10/P SCSI card, which is built
around the NCR53c406a chipset.  I am running kernel 2.0.33 with SCSI
support, as well as the NCR53c406a driver, built in to the kernel. In my
lilo.conf file, I have tried all of the following:

append=ncr53c406a=0x140,10,1
append=ncr53c406a=0x140,10,0
append=ncr53c406a=0x140,10
append=ncr53c406a=0x140

And all of them produced the same error messages: 

NCR53c406a: no available ports found
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.

The only device I have connected to the card is my IOMEGA JAZ
drive. If you can offer me any help whatsoever, I would very much
appreciate it. Thank you for you time,

Corey Miller

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Re: mutt

1998-02-23 Thread jdassen
On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 09:55:06PM -0500, Norbert Veber wrote:
 I've just upgraded mutt to version 0.89.1-3 a few days ago, and I noticed
 that its no longer in color, in the docs there is a color keyword for the
 muttrc that allows one to change the color of certain things in the
 program, but all I really want is for it to look the way it did before the
 upgrade..

I've put the old colours back in in -4.

 :)  Any way to do this?  Also the other really annoying thing is the way
 messages are marked old if the folder has been opened, and the messages
 haven't been read, how the hell can I turn that off?? :)

set nomark_old

On Sat, Feb 21, 1998 at 09:01:49PM +0100, Alexey Marinichev wrote:
 Is it true /etc/Muttrc doesn't have colours anymore?  If it is, could you
 tell me where to get the scheme there was in that file before 0.89
 packages?

On Sat, Feb 21, 1998 at 07:52:13PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Package: mutt-i
 Version: 0.89.1i-2
 
 1. The color support is not on by default as it used to be. Adding it to
 /etc/Muttrc should solve that.

HTH,
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Re: Deltree command?

1998-02-23 Thread David Gaudine


On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:

 It's not rmdir, but just rm; rm -r is what you want - rm -rf does
 what you want without asking questions  (Just plain rm -r will ask
 you about whether or not to delete files you don't have write access
 to).
 
 I hope I don't need to say how extremely dangerous these commands are, 
 and how careful you should be when using them.

For sure.  In fact, I'd be careful about counting on rm -r to prompt you.
-f or --force  means no prompting, -i or --interactive means prompting,
and I think the default is no prompting unless the noclobber
environment variable is set.  This may depend on the shell though.
I just tried it with tcsh and noclobber didn't help.
[checks the man page] [checks the info page] Aw heck, use -i.



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Re: Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message)

1998-02-23 Thread Bill Leach
 The 80x50 LILO can give me, also gives me 8x8 pixel characters.
 Using SVGATextMode I have 116x51 using 16x9 pixel characters.
 Readable characters are enough reason for me.

I don't even remember what I am using in lilo but I am quite happy with
it (bully for me).


 But if you haven't configured SVGATextMode properly it shouldn't
 start at all at boot time. First configure it and be confident that
 it really works on your hardware, then make it start at boot time.

Maybe it shouldn't start but it DID start.  I was more than surprised as
I am all but certain that I did NOT explicitely choose to install
SVGATextMode when in dselect.  In any event it did install and the next
time the machines was booted, consoles were fouled up.

Upon reading the docs for the program and experiementing with it, I got
it to work except for the corruption following a switch from X.  I
remember that there were some comments about switching back and forth
and I am pretty sure that I tried at least some suggestions but to no
avail.

The 'bigger issue' to me was that even though I was pleased with
flexibility provided for consoles, I don't like the idea of something
that 'messes' with the console that can break single user mode.  Thus,
there was not much motivation for me to try to track down the X -
SVGATextMode corruption.  If I really felt a strong need to use it
though, I would play around with how it is started so that it would not
start automagically when in single user mode.  While such a change is
probably 'brutally simple', insuring that future updates of the package
file did not 'undo' the change is, I think, not trivial.



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What happened to the ps POSIX options

1998-02-23 Thread Tommi Kaariainen

I updated procps (+ other stuff) to the newest version(s) in the Debian
mirror I use (sunsite.auc.dk) and found out that the (much more useful) 
POSIX-style ps options no longer work. Why were they removed?

/Tommi Kääriäinen/  


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Re: lprng

1998-02-23 Thread John Spence
On 22 Feb, Ralph Winslow wrote:

 Thanks for the tip, Corey - I ran checkpc -f and can now print 
 simple text (the lpd directory was owned by root, rather than 
 lp  the bj10sx directory which hadn't existed is now in place)
 but printing a page from netscape or that page saved to a file
 from the command line still fails.   Running lpstat shows:

I'm using magicfilter with my BJ10sx, using the BJ10e option in
magicfilterconfig.

Netscape prints great.

#   @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88
#
#  This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. 
#
lp|bj|bj10sx|Canon BJ10:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/bj10sx:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/sbin/bj10e-filter:\
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Offtopic:TXPro-II shared mem chipset/video ???

1998-02-23 Thread Oleg Krivosheev

Hi, All

i'm thinking about getting another computer.

I've got quote for so-called shared
mem chipset with SVGA on board - 
TXPro-II. With Cyrix 200MMX it should fit
nicely into the budget.

the $1M question is - does this staff supported
by Linux? Does X work ?

i suspect that internally it's one of the SiS
chipset but cannot prove it


thanks

OK


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Re: How to track hard drive seeks?(more info/questions)

1998-02-23 Thread servis
On 23 Feb, Lindsay Allen wrote:
 
 On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is there some program that I can use to monitor what programs are
 seeking the hard drive?  Some program, system call, or something is
 causing a quick seek to my root partitions hard drive every second or
 two.  I don't know what it is and I would like to find out.  My root
 partition(everything except /home) is a 3.2G partition(/dev/hda5) on a
 new WD 6.4G udma drive.  I have used hdparm -d1 -c3 -S 241 on the
 drive(/dev/hda) but disabling those options doesn't stop it. 
 I don't recall this happening on the old drive that the root partition
 used to be on, a WD 1.2G eide drive(now /home on /dev/hdb2).
 
 
 Have a look at update.  On _one_ of my debian boxes it accesses the drive
 twice every five seconds and it is driving me up the wall.  The other
 boxes just sit here quietly. 
 


Bingo! Now I am curious as why the change when I changed hard drives? 
My old drive is louder(when it seeks) than my new one so I would have
noticed it on it.  

I attached strace to the update process and it is doing as it says,
sleeps for 5 seconds and then calls bdflush(). I can't watch bdflush
because it is a new process everytime.  

Anybody else have any pointers to why the change in behavior. The
bdflush man page isn't very specific on how it works. Does bdflush
always flush to disk or only if there are dirty buffers?  Could the new
drive be confusing bdflush in some way?  

Thanks,


Brian 


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Broken Man pages after uprade!

1998-02-23 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
Hi,
I just installed the man-db and manpages packges from hamm. (Before
I was using the old ones from Bo).
Now, whenever I try to man anything, it says:
sh: /usr/bin/pager: No such file or directory
sh: exec: /usr/bin/pager: cannot execute: No such file or directory.

Where can I get this pager thing, or whatever is required to fix this?
Thanks in advance!
Timothy.


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Re: Problems w/ppp dialup and sending mail

1998-02-23 Thread dg
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, DAVID B. TEAGUE wrote:

 I installed Debian 1.1 and for a year things worked quite well.  I could
 send mail, receive mail via popmail, and use ppp for web access, fpt and
 telnet. Except for some problems getting logged in last Christmas, which
 seem to have been resolved all has been well. 
 
 Until recently, that is, when my ISP (campus.mci.net) began bouncing
 outgoing mail that has an unrecognized domain of origin. 
 
 How in the blazes do i get a valid 'domain' I am assigned an ip number
 each time I log in? 

Try the following:

/etc/smail/routers
smart_host:
driver=smarthost, transport=smtp-rewrite;
path=mail.bingo.baynet.de
--

/etc/smail/transports-
[... other transports ...]

smtp-remap:
driver=tcpsmtp, max_addrs=100, -max_chars, inet,
remove_header=From,
insert_header=From:
${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ($from:$fullname)}},
remove_header=Message-ID,
insert_header=Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
insert_header=Sender:
${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ($from:$fullname)}};
use_bind, defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames
--

/etc/smail/maps/from--
root[EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
YOURLOCALUSER   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (YOURNAME)
--

Hope this helps.

Bye

Daniel

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Re: elm-me+ doc Exasperation

1998-02-23 Thread Anthony Fok
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Art Lemasters wrote:

  Let me rephrase that.  I am looking for *configuration* info
 for a dialin setup in particular.  E.g., should I get fetchmail?
 Thanks.

Yes, you'll need fetchmail.  ELM is simply a mail reader with a set of
neat utilities.  You will need fetchmail to receive mail from your
ISP, and a local mail server of some sort to send your messages to your
ISP.  You probably have smail installed already.  Other alternatives are 
sendmail, exim (my favourite), qmail, etc.

It might take some time to get everything set up, but once it is set, it
is wonderful.  :-)  I can read and write e-mail, on-line or off-line.
Whenever I dial in to the university server, the computer automatically
sends and receives my messages.  :-)  (Check your ip-up and ip-down
scripts that comes with either the ppp or diald package, if you use
the latter.)

Cheers,

Anthony

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Re: What happens with bo when hamm becomes 2.0

1998-02-23 Thread Anthony Fok
Hey, you don't need to send the same messages three times!  :-)

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Gunnar Isaksson wrote:

 I noticed that the old rex release disappeard from the debian ftp site
 and it's mirrors soon after bo  was released. 
 
 Will bo also end up in /dev/null ?

Not immediately, but eventually.

 Personally I would like to continue with bo until debian 2.1 get's
 released but if there is no ftp site that carries updates on bo
 packages I don't know to do. I have become so spoiled by the stability
 of bo  that I believe anything else must be inferior. 

I'm using hamm right now, and it has been almost rock-solid.  It is very
stable.  On the other hand, if you want to continue with bo, there will
be lots of old Debian 1.3.1r6 CD-ROM available.  Check out www.lsl.com or
www.cheapbytes.com.  You can get a Debian 1.3.1 Official 2 CD-ROM set for
less than US $5.00.  :-)  You might also find the CD-ROM available through
other outlets in your country.

Cheers,

Anthony

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wwwcount from hamm

1998-02-23 Thread Bujtar Janos
Hello !

I have installed  the wwwcount package but have problem when I want to
use it.  It seem the wwwcount.cgi  is corrupted. When a call is made
from html to wwwcount there is nothing , and even the log file is
unchanged. When i run the wwwcoint.cgi from command line it messes up
all the characters on the screen. 


Is there anybody using this counter?


Thanks in advance!

james


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Re: Debian Linux and Non-Free Packages.

1998-02-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
   Could someone please explain the concept of Non-Free Packages please (i.e. 
Pine
   etc).

These are well explained at http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html

   It is just that I don't understand why other distributions can include them 
in
   there official releases, where as debain can not.

Because we are idealists, and they are not.


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Modem Problems....

1998-02-23 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
I was trying to setup debian on another computer:
The serial module only detects /dev/ttyS1.
I tried to get minicom to dial out on /dev/ttyS1, but it doesnt seem to
initialize it, and the modem doesn't make any noise when I try to dial.
Any suggestions as to where I should go from here to try and get the
modem to work?
Thanks,
Timtohy.


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Re: Debian Linux and Non-Free Packages.

1998-02-23 Thread Martin Schulze
On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 02:11:44PM +, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:
 Could someone please explain the concept of Non-Free Packages please (i.e. 
 Pine
 etc).

Please read Debian's Social Contract at
http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html

Included on that page you'll find the Debian Free Software
Guidlines (short: DFSG).

 It is just that I don't understand why other distributions can include them in
 there official releases, where as debain can not.

The most important goal of Debian is to produce and maintain a 
_free_ distribution in the sense of GPL or better DFSG.  This means
that any piece of software that is included in our main distribution
must comply with the DFSG.  We also encourage software authors to
distribute their software under the GPL.

Software that does not comply with the DFSG has to be put into
the non-free part if distribution is allowed.

If the software itself is distributed under a free license but
depends on non-free parts (like mosaic+motif, kde+qt) it may go
into the contrib part of the distribution.

 Also on another note, does anyone knoe if there is a graphical front end to 
 the
 ipfwadm (Firewall) program?  If not then I am currently considering writing
 one.  The current plan is to produce both a  ncurses version, and a HTML
 version.  But why reinvent the wheel if there is already one.

I hope you'll put it under the GPL.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Deltree command?

1998-02-23 Thread Tim Sailer
David Gaudine wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:
 
  It's not rmdir, but just rm; rm -r is what you want - rm -rf does
  what you want without asking questions  (Just plain rm -r will ask
  you about whether or not to delete files you don't have write access
  to).
  
  I hope I don't need to say how extremely dangerous these commands are, 
  and how careful you should be when using them.
 
 For sure.  In fact, I'd be careful about counting on rm -r to prompt you.
 -f or --force  means no prompting, -i or --interactive means prompting,
 and I think the default is no prompting unless the noclobber
 environment variable is set.  This may depend on the shell though.
 I just tried it with tcsh and noclobber didn't help.
 [checks the man page] [checks the info page] Aw heck, use -i.

For my less-brains-than-a-brick users, I do:

cat  -i
^D

in each dir that they normally work in. This way, when they 'accidentally'
do 'rm -r' in the dir, it also evals the -i and prompts them for
each file.. crude, but it works..

Tim

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Re: netscape communicator

1998-02-23 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 Hi
 
 I installed Netscape Communicator 4.04 on my debian 1.3.1 updated to
 libc6 and it just writes that it cannot load libXpm.so.4
 I have installed xpm4g_3.4j-0.6.deb and the library file is there in
 /usr/X11R6/lib.
 
 what might be the problem?
 
 before updating to libc6, this version of netscape worked normally.

netscape is libc5 based binary and it needs all the shared libs it uses
to be libc5 based. You should install all the X11 libs without 'g' 
(libc5 counterparts).

Alex Y.

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Re: What happened to the ps POSIX options

1998-02-23 Thread Tommi Kaariainen
Tommi Kaariainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I updated procps (+ other stuff) to the newest version(s) in the Debian
 mirror I use (sunsite.auc.dk) and found out that the (much more useful) 
 POSIX-style ps options no longer work. Why were they removed?
 
 /Tommi Kääriäinen/  

Aargh, this is not what I meant to write. What I was thinking goes 
like this:

I updated procps (+ other stuff) in my system (running hamm) to the newest 
version(s) _from_ the Debian mirror I use (sunsite.auc.dk) and found out 
that the (much more useful) POSIX-style ps options no longer work. Why 
were they removed?

/Tommi Kääriäinen/


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ls doesn't work with anonymous ftp (wu-ftpd, hamm)

1998-02-23 Thread Bob Nielsen
With the hamm version of wu-ftpd (also wu-ftpd-academ), an anonymous user
gets nothing returned with the ls command:

ftp ls -al
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
226 Transfer complete.
ftp

The installed ftpaccess file is identical to the one on my bo system,
which correctly gives a listing:

ftp ls -al
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 7
dr-xr-xr-x   6 root root 1024 May 14  1997 .
dr-xr-xr-x   6 root root 1024 May 14  1997 ..
d--x--x--x   2 root root 1024 May 14  1997 bin
d--x--x--x   2 root root 1024 May 14  1997 etc
d--x--x--x   2 root root 1024 May 14  1997 lib
dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root 1024 Nov 26 21:52 pub
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  346 May 14  1997 welcome.msg
226 Transfer complete.
ftp

Am I missing something here?

Bob

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Re: What happened to the ps POSIX options

1998-02-23 Thread Scott Ellis
On 23 Feb 1998, Tommi Kaariainen wrote:

 I updated procps (+ other stuff) to the newest version(s) in the Debian
 mirror I use (sunsite.auc.dk) and found out that the (much more useful) 
 POSIX-style ps options no longer work. Why were they removed?

Debian fell back to use the unmodified upstream procps release, which
doesn't have POSIX/UNIX98-style options yet.  There are plans for the
upstream source to incorperate these options again in the future, but they
are gone for the moment.

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Re: Broken Man pages after uprade!

1998-02-23 Thread Scott Ellis
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Timothy M. Hospedales wrote:

 I just installed the man-db and manpages packges from hamm. (Before
 I was using the old ones from Bo).
 Now, whenever I try to man anything, it says:
 sh: /usr/bin/pager: No such file or directory
 sh: exec: /usr/bin/pager: cannot execute: No such file or directory.
 
 Where can I get this pager thing, or whatever is required to fix this?

Either install an updated less package, or set the environment variable
PAGER to the pager you want to use.

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Strangeness at boot

1998-02-23 Thread Dominic Davidson
Recently, I have started getting messages like this at boot and
shutdown:

trap: illegal number SIGHUP
trap: illegal number SIGINT

Has anyone any idea what may be causing them? I am worried that it may
be related to a bad case of overheating I had the other day when my
CPU fan started to die (and that is _not_ a good thing on a Cyrix
6x86...).

Cheers,
-Dom


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Executing a process on another virtual terminal

1998-02-23 Thread Fulgham, Brent/SCO
Is there an easy way to start a process on another virtual terminal?
For example, I would like to run the RC5DES client from Distributed.net
on a virtual terminal, so I can alt-f7 over to it and see how it is
doing from time to time.  I tried cat rc5des  /dev/tty7, which doesn't
work...

Thanks,

-Brent



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Re: Broken Man pages after uprade!

1998-02-23 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Timothy M. Hospedales wrote:

 Hi,
 I just installed the man-db and manpages packges from hamm. (Before
 I was using the old ones from Bo).
 Now, whenever I try to man anything, it says:
 sh: /usr/bin/pager: No such file or directory
 sh: exec: /usr/bin/pager: cannot execute: No such file or directory.
 
 Where can I get this pager thing, or whatever is required to fix this?

My hamm system shows:

$ ls -al /usr/bin/pager
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   23 Jan 18 21:16 /usr/bin/pager -
/etc/alternatives/pager

and

$ ls -al /etc/alternatives/pager
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Jan 27 21:17
/etc/alternatives/pager - /usr/bin/less

dpkg -S /usr/bin/pager doesn't return anything, so I don't know which
package set this up, but you might try putting in the links manually.

hth,
Bob

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Re: Debian Linux and Non-Free Packages.

1998-02-23 Thread David Wright
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote:

 Could someone please explain the concept of Non-Free Packages please (i.e. 
 Pine
 etc).

Take a look at /usr/doc/debian/FAQ/debian-faq.txt.gz in section 5.6.1
where this is explained.

 It is just that I don't understand why other distributions can include them in
 there official releases, where as debain can not.

Perhaps this is explained by reading their respective release notes carefully.
You can't legally publish a piece of software under a less restrictive 
licence than that under which you obtained it.

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BGP

1998-02-23 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello, friends,
===

I would like to ask - is there any package which enables routing using
BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) ? I know that there is routed, but it
doesn't seem to be able to use BGP.

Thanks a lot.

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Re: faster telnet while ftp'ing?

1998-02-23 Thread joost witteveen
Jim Foltz wrote:
 Hello,
 
   I would like to sorta hold back, or balance out, an ftp connection
 so I can telnet to my ISP account while downloading. Right now, telnet is
 too slow to use at the same time while ftp'ing. I hope you understand what
 I am trying to say here. I am operating a USR Sportser 33.6 internal modem
 over a PPP connection to my ISP.

I simply type ^Z in the xterm that has ftp running, and start
telnetting in another xterm.

Isn't that what you want? Maybe my case is special, as I'm connected
via a local ethernet that itself is connected via a 64k line to the internet?


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Re: Offtopic:TXPro-II shared mem chipset/video ???

1998-02-23 Thread Richard B. Talley
On 23 Feb 98 at 9:56,  Oleg Krivosheev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I've got quote for so-called shared
 mem chipset with SVGA on board - 
 TXPro-II. With Cyrix 200MMX it should fit
 nicely into the budget.
 
 the $1M question is - does this staff supported
 by Linux? Does X work ?
 

According to a tech I know at a major manufacturer the $1M question for 
most customers is if Windows 95 even supports it.

The answer seems to be: Sorta', sometimes, at least until you install a 
DOS based game. It's bleeding edge technology.

Richard B. Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web 
page appears to
be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little 
chance of reading
a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another 
network.
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Initio and Advansys Cards

1998-02-23 Thread ' ALLAN W. BART
hi,

i would like to hear about the experinces of users of scsi controller
cards from these firms.

allan bart


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RFC1035 and MTA's

1998-02-23 Thread Thomas Lakofski
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone else was feeling constrained in their choice of
MTA's on debian because of complaints about RFC1035 and their FQDN.
Neither smail or exim will work on my system, because, apparently, my
domain name does not comply to RFC1035 (if this is so, neither does
3com.com or 1800flowers.com, etc. etc.).  This restriction seems to be
fairly bogus -- surely if it mattered, the InterNIC wouldn't have given me
my name.

Comments?

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Re: Debian Linux and Non-Free Packages.

1998-02-23 Thread Alex Yukhimets
  Also on another note, does anyone knoe if there is a graphical front end to 
  the
  ipfwadm (Firewall) program?  If not then I am currently considering writing
  one.  The current plan is to produce both a  ncurses version, and a HTML
  version.  But why reinvent the wheel if there is already one.
 
 I hope you'll put it under the GPL.

Hope you wouldn't :) 

Since I wouldn't be able to create a Motif interface in case you put
it under GPL. I am having a big problems with GPL'd software now:
I am writing a Motif clone of WS_FTP and while the front-end is almost
ready, I am forced to write my own back-end because the usable ftp
software is GPL'd! I feel more then frustrated about it now. 

Alex Y.

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Upgrading to hamm

1998-02-23 Thread Vaibhav Goel

Hello;

I am running Debian 1.3.1 currently.  I am considering upgrading to
hamm (yes I know its still unstable).  Can anyone recommend, if
I should start from scratch (reinstall the whole system) or
should I upgrade my current system.  If your advice is to do the latter,
is there a FAQ/HOWTO available that details the process?

Regards,

Vaibhav Goel



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Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-23 Thread Ian Eure
Carey Evans wrote:

 Jameson Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I seek to use one computer with two full X-windows users.
  This would be a cheap in time/money approach for my wife and I 
  simultaneously
  using Linux.

 It might be worthwhile finding a cheap 386 or 486 with a good graphics
 card.  Install a minimum of programs on it, just the X server.  If you
 run xfs on your main computer, you won't even need the fonts.  You
 could do this with even a 200 MB hard disk, I think.

 You *will* need 2 network cards for this, but setting up two computers
 on a network under Linux is easier than some single-computer stuff.  X
 is probably too slow over serial.

 (Just another option.)

 It is easy to plug in two mice, dodgy to plug in two monitors, but
 pretty much impossible to plug in two keyboards at the moment, IMO.

  A better option would be to look at the dxt package on sunsite- it is a 
nfsroot
linux boot floppy that you can set up to run an X server on- I've hacked it up a
bit, so it will use an X font server  such- I may release it at some point in
time. It is not the best solution, but it is out there.


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Re: Modem Problems....

1998-02-23 Thread Ben Gertzfield
 Timothy == Timothy M Hospedales [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Timothy I was trying to setup debian on another computer: The
Timothy serial module only detects /dev/ttyS1.  I tried to get
Timothy minicom to dial out on /dev/ttyS1, but it doesnt seem to
Timothy initialize it, and the modem doesn't make any noise when
Timothy I try to dial.  Any suggestions as to where I should go
Timothy from here to try and get the modem to work?  Thanks,
Timothy Timtohy.

Sounds like you have an IRQ conflict. Read the 'dmesg' output and see
exactly what interrupt the serial port is on, and make sure it's not
the same interrupt as another card.

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Looking for opinions of Initio and Advansys scsi cards

1998-02-23 Thread ' ALLAN W. BART
hi,

i am building a new system and i would like to get your opinions on these
smaller firms products in the linux environment.

thanks,

allan bart


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Russian in Debian ?

1998-02-23 Thread Oleg Krivosheev


Hi, All

Is there canonical Debian Way to put
Russian fonts/kb on debian system?

i`m interesting in Emacs russification.

i know about cyrillic fonts in X11 section...


related question - any idea about 
Russian in teTeX/LaTeX ?


thanks

OK


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Re: Executing a process on another virtual terminal

1998-02-23 Thread Steve Mayer
Brent,

  I believe that the 'open' program will do this for you.

Steve Mayer
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Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote:
 
 Is there an easy way to start a process on another virtual terminal?
 For example, I would like to run the RC5DES client from Distributed.net
 on a virtual terminal, so I can alt-f7 over to it and see how it is
 doing from time to time.  I tried cat rc5des  /dev/tty7, which doesn't
 work...
 
 Thanks,
 
 -Brent
 
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Re: A20 GATING FAILED

1998-02-23 Thread shaul
 A20 GATING FAILED 
 CAN  ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO GET PASSED THIS  S.O.S

1) It could be a hardware fault. 
2) Perhaps there is a BIOS entry for A20 that you want to change. 
Is it a new machine ? A new installation ? Does the machine has a working 
DOS/WINDOWS ?



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Re: xearth

1998-02-23 Thread shaul
  I try to Install xearth, version 1.0 under Linux but I got an error 

 message, which isld: cannot open -lXt No such file or directory 
   make: *** [xearth] error 1 

I think that the loader is looking for a library that is not found on your 
system. If I am not mistaken, Xt is the Xform library.
Did you install xearth from a debian package ?
And if yes, what are the package dependencies and are they O.K ?



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Re: Question - Hamm, Mgetty, PPP, wtmp - Arrgh!

1998-02-23 Thread shaul
As a test, can you replce the ATZ with a full init command (I use 
ATFE0V1C1D2S95=47S0=0M0 with my modem) ?

By the way, the following is copied from /usr/doc/mgetty/README.debian
 
  High Baud Rates
  ---
  Linux supports 115200 and 57600 Baud, so does mgetty. But some to ols
  (notably rlogin and telnet) crash with a segfault at those high baudrates.
  If you want users to use regular shell dialin then please leave t
  he highest baudrate at 38400. You can then use the setserial program to 
  make the serial port drivers do 57600 or 115200 Baud.

  Note that a serial port must run at 115200 Baud in order to use the full
  speed of a 28.800 Baud modem with compression. A serial port should run at
  57600 for a 14.400 Baud modem.




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Re: Beeping the Speaker

1998-02-23 Thread shaul
 In bash or sh or ksh -

 echo ^g^g

Doesn't work for me.


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Speak-Freely Problems

1998-02-23 Thread Luke Bussanmas
I am unable to get Speak-Freely to work on my system.  The sfspeaker
program outputs:

opening audio output device: Device or resource busy

Repeated several dozen times after attempting to communicate with an echo
server.  I realize this means that /dev/audio is still being controlled by
another program, however I don't see a way to fix the problem.

I can also easliy do cat /dev/audio  temp.au; cat temp.au  /dev/audio;
and hear what I spoke into the microphone.

TIA


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