Re: OffTopic: Ya basta de publicidad en la lista!!!!

2000-12-11 Thread Ignacio Garcia Fernandez
On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Roberto Saldivar Marin wrote:

 por que no se si sea esto un bug: Uno puede enviar mensajes
 desde cualquier direccion de correo con solo tener la
 direccion de email de la lista

Creo que no... esto es más bien parte del funcionamiento de la lista;
cualquiera puede preguntar a la lista sin necesidad de estar suscrito.

Tiene sus inconvenientes, como cuando nos preguntan que como se puede
poner el fondo del güindous a topos verds y azules o cosas así, pero si te
fijas también supone una parte no despreciable del tráfico de la lista.

Yo creo que la única solución (que no solucionaría nada) es responder a
esta gente con facturas por el importe del anuncio según las normas de las
listas de Debian (aparte de avisar al sitio ese que dice Jordi y echarnos
unas risas con los correos, que hay cada uno :-D ).

En fin, intentemos ser felices a pesar de las Navidades y no dejemos que
las úlceras invadan nuestras vidas por una docena de spam a la semana!

Un saludo

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Re: Permisos de logs

2000-12-11 Thread José Luis Gómez Dans
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:40:16AM +0100, Andres Seco Hernandez wrote:
 Hola
 
 Estoy añadiendo lineas al syslog.conf para registrar unos mensajillos, y
 no me mola que se queden en el directorio de /var/log con permisos
 rw-r--r--, ya que lo que contienen es un poco delicado.

¿Estás seguro? En mi máquina
$ ls -l syslog
-rw-r-1 root adm  6319 Dec 11 09:41 syslog

Como ves, sólo es posible leerlos si perteneces a adm (o si eres
root). De hecho, el grupo adm es una de las cosas más útiles que he
encontrado en debian...

Saludos,
Jose

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Crear paquetes deb de un programa que no los tiene ?

2000-12-11 Thread Daniel Payno
Hay una paquete que uso desde hace poco tiempo que no tiene mantenedor. ¿Que
tengo que hacer para ofrecerme a hacer los paquetes Debian de él?

PD: se trata del KBabel, un editor gráfico de .po's
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Re: mirror ftp

2000-12-11 Thread Daniel Payno
Hola Carles...

decías, el 06 de dic de 2000, a las 09:17 +:
 Si se está interesado en hacer un mirror de Debian, qué pasos hay que
 seguir?
Básicamente, tienes que hacerte un script majo usando rsync para actualizarte
el mirror y meterlo en tu cron diario.

Yo administro la máquina ftp.gul.uc3m.es del GUL de la UC3M. Entre otras cosas
tenemos un mirror de debian completo (i386). De hecho, aunque mola hacerse un 
mirror,
puesto que también estamos en rediris deberías ver si no te hace falta. Por lo
que sé, en rediris va bastante bien. De hecho, en cuanto nos amplien el ancho
de banda de salida de la universidad de 4Mps a 155Mps, quitaremos el QoS, e
ira bastante mejor... ;)
 
 Es posible que en mi universidad (Barcelona, dentro de Red Iris) se haga
 uno, pero no sé si se hace con wget a saco o hay unos pasos. Tambien
 interesante como se actualiza para que el mirror esté a la última :-) (por
 si hacemos Woody)
Tu eliges de qué quieres hacer la réplica... En mi máquina, tengo potato,
slink, woody y sid. (i386), binarios y fuentes, además de non-US.

 He mirado en las páginas de debian.org pero no he visto instrucciones.
Si, en la página http://www.debian.org/mirror


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Re: mirror ftp

2000-12-11 Thread Sergio Talens-Oliag
El Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 09:17:55AM +, Carles Pina i Estany escribió:
 
 Hola
 
 Si se está interesado en hacer un mirror de Debian, qué pasos hay que
 seguir?
 
 Es posible que en mi universidad (Barcelona, dentro de Red Iris) se haga
 uno, pero no sé si se hace con wget a saco o hay unos pasos. Tambien
 interesante como se actualiza para que el mirror esté a la última :-) (por
 si hacemos Woody)
 
 
 He mirado en las páginas de debian.org pero no he visto instrucciones.
 
 
 Gracias!

  Un buen método es utilizar el 'rsync'. Con la mayoría de mirrors de debian
  funciona, prueba 'rsync rsync://ftp.de.debian.org/'. Para copiarlo todo
  puedes hacer algo como: 
   
# rsync --size-only -v -rlptD --delete \
  ftp.de.debian.org::debian/ /mirror/debian/

# rsync --size-only -v -rlptD --delete \
  ftp.de.debian.org::debian-non-US/ /mirror/debian-non-US/

  Más información en 'man rsync'.

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RE: Problema con FAT32

2000-12-11 Thread VerdeOliva
Pues eso es lo que yo sospechaba, sabía por la documentación que he consultado 
que el formata FAT32 está soportado en linux pero no sé por qué no me monta mi 
partición (ya adjunté mi fichero fstab a esta discusión), no es el soporte del 
kernel porque las opciones ya las tengo compiladas como módulos (existen dos 
opciones de soporte relacionadas: soporte de fat y de vfat - esta última para 
los nombres largos de windows y necesita de la primera-).

Además no tengo problemas en montar dos de las particiones que tengo con FAT16, 
lo cual corrobora el soporte del kernel de este tipo de particiones. Según leí 
el montaje de las particiones de distintos tipos de FAT lo hace automáticamente 
el mount sin necesidad de especificar nada (aunque también se puede obligar y 
lo he intentado), el problema es que monto cualquier partición FAT, sea esta 
primaria o unidad lógica, siempre que no sea FAT32.

Por todo esto creo que el problema apunta a algo raro que hay al comienzo de 
dicha partición, que construí con el fdisk de linux y formateé con el 
format de windows, desde windows accedo a ella de maravilla, desde linux me 
da el error que comenté de mount (hay algún bloque erróneo en la partición o el 
sistema de archivos no está soportado).

¿Qué puede estar pasando? ¿tendría que pasarle un scandisk desde windows? ¿hay 
alguna erramienta en linux que pueda utilizar para chequear/testear este tipo 
de particiones y que corrija el posible problema?

En definitiva, ¿hay alguna luz que me ilumine porque estoy en uno de esos 
puntos en los que no se sabe como seguir ni que probar?

Gracias múltiples.  Muchus besitos. A seguir bien, y espero vuestras inspiradas 
respuestas.

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On 8/12/00 at 19:13 daniel wrote:

pues no se el por que del problema,  y menos la solucion :-(, pero por si
sirve un poco, tengo un disco similar al tuyo, y una particion fat32 de 13G
, la cual monto sin problemas,(no recuerdo como tengo configurado el fstab y
no estoy en ese equipo),
por lo que incompatibilidad de linux con este formato no tendria que ser,
lamento no poder ayudar.

 daniel
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From: VerdeOliva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: Problema con FAT32

Parece que el problema apunta a algún problema de incompatibilidad entre el
FAT32 y el reconocimiento de este sistema por LINUX. Lo mismo W98 ha metido
algo extraño en los
primeros sectores... NO SE ¿?¿?.  Por eso habría que intentar alguna
herramienta que diera
más información, HUE-BOND me aconsejó algo en su email, pero no lo entiendo.

Perdón por el rollo extremo y MUCHAS GRACIAS.

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On 7/12/00 at 2:28 .-=° DEWBaCK °=-. wrote:

De mi experiencia, siempre que he tenido que montar más de DOS filesystems
VFAT,
linux me da problemas, asi que creo que el problema va por ahí.
Sin tomar en cuenta el fd0, que es un caso especial de filesystem, ya
tienes
tus dos FS montados. De ahi que no te permite montar más de los DOS
anteriores.

Intenta cambiar el orden de montaje, es decir. Monta el hdc9 antes que
cualquier
otro, si lo monta y el ultimo lo rechaza, mi teoría se cumple. Si te lo
rechaza
de todas formas, aunque no montes ningúna otra particion, existe algun
problema
con dicha particion. Tal vez tengas un rpoblema con cilindros por fuera de
los
1024, no dijiste el tamaño de tu disco no de las particiones, asi que no me
puedeo pronunciar al respecto.

Intenta lo que te sugiero. No montes otros, solo el problemático, si lo
acepta
y el ultimo no lo acepta ... estamos frente a un problema de kernel y
habría
que profundizar mucho más al respecto.

Adiós y buena suerte, ojalá que mi teoría NO sea cierta :)



Hola.

Pues como indica el subject tengo un problema con el montaje de una
partición

FAT32 que utilizo para datos de Windows 98, y me gustaría que ese
espacio

también estuviera utilizable para Linux.

En mi Kernel 2.2.17 tengo soportados como módulos los sistemas fat y
vfat.


Mi fstab tiene las siguientes líneas:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options
dump
 pass
/dev/hdc6   /   ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro
0 1
/dev/hdc5   noneswapsw
0 0
proc/proc   procdefaults
0 0
/dev/hdc3   /boot   ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro
0 1
/dev/hdc8   /home   ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro
0 1

# Lo anterior se monta automaticamente, a partir de aquí a mano

/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy vfatdefaults,user,noauto
0 0
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto
0 0
/dev/cdrw   /mnt/cdrw   iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto
0 0
/dev/hda5   /mnt/usuarios   vfatdefaults,rw,user,noauto
0 0
/dev/hda1   /mnt/sistemavfat

apt y dos juegos de CD

2000-12-11 Thread Ignacio Garcia Fernandez
Hola, lista.

Tengo dos juegos de CD de potato, uno unofficial (creo que es de un par de
semanas antes de que saliera la oficial) y los de la revista.

Instalé con la no oficial y tenía los cds viejos con el apt. Ahora le he
añadido (con apt-cdrom add) los de la revista... y ya no me funciona.

Le digo apt-get update y luego apt-get upgrade y me dice que tiene 85
paquetes para actualizar pero no los actualiza.

Si le comento las líneas que corresponden a los cds viejos entonces me lo
actualiza sin problema, pero si no, no hay tu tía.

Me interesa mantener los viejos porque hay algunos paquetes que están en
los viejos que en los nuevos no están.

¿Alguna idea?

Gracias lista

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Instalacion de qmail

2000-12-11 Thread Carlos Solano
Alguien comentó hace un tiempo la forma de instalar qmail con apt bajando las 
fuentes y compilándolo. Si teneis el mensaje a mano u os acordais del nombre de 
las fuentes del paquete qmail os estaría muy agradecido.
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Re: SiS 6326 AGP

2000-12-11 Thread dbote
On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 03:01:42PM -0400, Eduardo Besembel wrote:
 Option noaccel

Efectivamente eso funcionó. Gracias a los que me respondísteis.

El aspecto de WMaker es impresionante. Me dejó muy sorprendido. No 
porque todo funcionase de maravilla, que se esperaba, sino por el aspecto. 
Realmente espectacular. Creo que ya tenemos otro debianero en la familia.

Saludos y hasta la próxima.

Diego.
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Re: GRABAR MUSICA...

2000-12-11 Thread dbote
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 08:31:49PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hola amigos debianeros:
 con cdrecord no puedo grabar mas de 10 temas musicales.
 alguien me puede decir como hago para grabar 22 temas musicales que tengo
 en el disco duro, ojo antes fueron mp3s.
 me dijeron con cdrdao pero ya he intentado todo sin satisfaccion
 gracias
 
 
Graba 22 o los que quieras, siempre que quepan. La forma que yo uso es:

cdrecord dev=0,0,0 fs=16m speed=8 -eject -audio audio*

Pero nada mejor que echar un vistazo al manual man cdrecord y poner 
las cosas a tu gusto y necesidades pues, lo que ves arriba podría no 
funcionarte.

Saludos.

Diego.


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Mas sobre Supra

2000-12-11 Thread c d
¿Y cómo sabéis que es un winmodem?
Mirándolo, veo un chip de conexant (¿Rockwell?-por lo que pone en la web, es 
la misma compañía). Los anteriores modelos tenían dos chips de Rockwell.
Mi modem es exactamente el Supra Express 56i PRO VCC.
Si me decis que seguro que es un winmodem, lo cambio sin problemas. Ahora, ¿por 
cuál que se pueda conseguir facilmente? He pensado en un externo de U.S.Robotics
¿Alguien lo ha usado? ¿Al ser externo me aseguro de que no es un castañamodem?
Por favor, responderme rápido, que estoy desesperado.
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Re: Acentos en exim

2000-12-11 Thread dbote
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 09:07:56AM +0100, Joaqu?n Garc?a-Esta? Candela wrote:
 Hola:
 Desde que sustituí la Slink por la Potato, que instala exim como MTA, los
 mensajes llegan con el apartado From:, tanto si lo, envío desde la consola 
 como
 desde Mutt, con muchas ? que sustituyen las vocales acentuadas y las eñes. He
 visto algún mensaje de la lista así, pero no he encontrado en los archivos
 recientes ningún mensaje que pregunte sobre este asunto. 
 Con sendmail no me pasa esto. Tampoco tengo problemas en el texto del mensaje
 ni en otras aplicaciones, de la consola o X-windows. Debe de ser una cosa muy
 simple, pero por más vueltas que le he dado no consigo mandar un From: con
 nuestros acentos y eñes. Creo que lo tengo todo 'castellanizado' porque no
 tengo,como digo, problemas en otros programas. ¿Qué tengo que hacer? Gracias
 anticipadas por vuestra ayuda.
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Si usas mutt mira en el .muttrc de tu directorio y quita el sostenido 
# del comienzo de las líneas siguientes:

# set allow_8bit
# set charset=iso-8859-1

Si no recuerdo mal creo que con eso vale.

Saludos

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Re: /dev/null

2000-12-11 Thread Juantomás García

Hola,

Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia wrote:


Hola:

Hago lo siguiente. Mkdir prueba y me crea el directorio prueba: Despues
repito la operacion y me sale un mensaje que dice que no puede crearme el
directorio prueba, porque ya existe. Entonces hago mkdir prueba /dev/null
para que dicho mensaje lo redireccione al error estandar /dev/null, pero
sin embargo sigue saliendo por la pantalla.Es esto asi? 



No te compliques utiliza la opción -p
tiene dos efectos una es que crea todos los subdirectorios
intermedios si falta alguno y la otra es que no se queja
si ya existe ;-)

Saludos
/juantomás








Dynamic DNS

2000-12-11 Thread Carlos López
A las buenas.

¿Sabe alguien donde puedo localizar documentacion
sobre dynamic dns y el software necesario ???


Gracias.


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Re: Mas sobre Supra

2000-12-11 Thread Jaume Teixi
 h¿Y cómo sabéis que es un winmodem?
 Mirándolo, veo un chip de conexant (¿Rockwell?-por lo que pone en la web, es 
 la misma compañía). Los anteriores modelos tenían dos chips de Rockwell.

 Mi modem es exactamente el Supra Express 56i PRO VCC.

La ultima lista http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/20001207a.html del 7 dic
informa que  este modelo es un WM o sea que no hay nada que
hacer..el hecho que el chipset
sea rockwell no significa que sea el RPI, en este caso es un HFC, o sea
nada que hacer !

 Si me decis que seguro que es un winmodem, lo cambio sin problemas. Ahora, 
 ¿por cuál que se pueda conseguir facilmente? He pensado en un externo de 
 U.S.Robotics

mírate esta lista y cualquier modem externo marcado OK te valdrá sin más
problemas..!

salut
jaume



pregunta sobre un comando especifico

2000-12-11 Thread Sergio Valdivielso Gomez
Buenas a [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
existe en debian algun comando para saber cuando se apago el equipo la
ultima vez?
en UNIX es who -r, pero en linux, no lo se
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Re: pregunta sobre un comando especifico

2000-12-11 Thread Juantomás García


Hola Sergio,

Sergio Valdivielso Gomez wrote:


Buenas a [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
existe en debian algun comando para saber cuando se apago el equipo la
ultima vez?
en UNIX es who -r, pero en linux, no lo se


con last puedes ver cuando se apago y cuando se rebotó.

Saludos
/juantomás




Re: Permisos de logs

2000-12-11 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Si, en la mia también, pero he añadido lineas como:

local4.*/var/log/milog.log

y milog.log queda como

-rw-r--r--  rootrootmilog.log

y eso quiere decir que si que puede leerlos la gente.

¿Como hace el sistema para que el syslog tenga esos permisos y los logs
que añadas al syslog.conf no?

El 11 Dec 2000 a las 09:45AM +, José Luis Gómez Dans escribio:
 On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:40:16AM +0100, Andres Seco Hernandez wrote:
  Hola
  
  Estoy añadiendo lineas al syslog.conf para registrar unos mensajillos, y
  no me mola que se queden en el directorio de /var/log con permisos
  rw-r--r--, ya que lo que contienen es un poco delicado.
 
   ¿Estás seguro? En mi máquina
   $ ls -l syslog
   -rw-r-1 root adm  6319 Dec 11 09:41 syslog
   
   Como ves, sólo es posible leerlos si perteneces a adm (o si eres
 root). De hecho, el grupo adm es una de las cosas más útiles que he
 encontrado en debian...
 
   Saludos,
   Jose
 
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Re: Permisos de logs

2000-12-11 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
¿Y cuando lo rote con logrotate? ¿Mantendrá los permisos que he cambiado
a mano?

El 11 Dec 2000 a las 10:34AM +0100, Hue-Bond escribio:
 El lunes 11 de diciembre de 2000 a la(s) 02:40:16 +0100, Andres Seco 
 Hernandez contaba:
 
 No veo en el man de syslog.conf forma de cambiar los permisos de un
 fichero que se genere desde aquí.
 
 ¿Alguna sugerencia?
 
  Puedes  hacer 'chmod  o-r /var/log'  (así no  se puede  leer el
  directorio) y/o 'chmod  o-r archivo'. Para hacer esto  último en el
  lado seguro, mejor para syslog un momentito, cambia los permisos, y
  reinícialo.
 
 
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Re: Mas sobre Supra

2000-12-11 Thread ESTEBAN P OSSES ANGUITA


On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, c d wrote:

 Ahora, ¿por cuál que se pueda conseguir facilmente? He pensado en un 
 externo de U.S.Robotics
 ¿Alguien lo ha usado? ¿Al ser externo me aseguro de que no es un 
 castañamodem?

yo he usado un U.S.Robotics, el modelo era (creo) sportster 33.6 ... 
no dio problemas en la configuraci'on ni nada por el estilo ... 
simplemente conectabas, prend'ias, le dec'ias q'l modem estaba en 
/dev/ttyS1 y listo ...

un amigo us'o el modelo de sportster56.6 y tampoco tuvo problemas ... al 
menos eso me dijo ...

hasta donde yo s'e, si es externo, no deber'ias tener problemas ... 

nos leemos,
esteban

 Por favor, responderme rápido, que estoy desesperado.
 Gracias y un saludo,
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Re: Instalacion En Disco Rigido Para Otra Pc

2000-12-11 Thread dbote
Precisamente el problema lo tienes en lo que es algo más particular de 
cada máquina. Me explico. Yo he hecho lo lque dices varias veces, configurar en 
una máquina y usar en otra. No he tenido casi ningún problema, pero 
precisamente las X las he tenido que configurar de nuevo. La reconfiguración ha 
consistido en usar el xserver adecuado para la tarjeta de esa otra máquina, el 
teclado, ratón y poco más. Como ves todo lo que hay que modificar es parte del 
XF86Config o es el servidor a arrancar. Por lo demás yo no he tenido problemas. 
Animo y ya contarás.

Saludos.

Diego.

On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 01:53:06PM -0600, JFreak wrote:
 Hola lista, queria preguntarles si es posible instalar  en un disco
 rigido y luego usar ese disco rigido en otra Pc.
 
 Resulta que tengo una pc en mi trabajo que la queremos usar como
 estacion de trabajo para lo cual me pidieron que le instalara la
 distribucion de Mandrake ya que esta se aclopa muy bien a las
 necesidades de usuario pero esta no tiene booteo desde cd-rom y cuando
 quiero instalar usando un diskette con la imagen para bootear con cd-rom
 se queda colgado, la unidad es totalmente standard por lo que no
 necesita de alguna configuracion especial, entonces pensaba si era
 posible instalar desde mi pc (que si tiene booteo desde cd-rom y no he
 tenido ningun problema), configurarle las X y luego usar ese disco
 rigido en la otra Pc, las maquinas son diferentes, estas son las
 especificaciones:
 
 Maquina 1: Booteable desde Cd-Rom
 
   Marca : Clone
   Procesador : Pentuim II 350 MHZ
   Memoria Ram : 64 MB
   Tarjeta De Video : S3
 
 Maquina 2
Marca : AST Bravo LC 5100
Procesador: Pentim 100 Mhz
Memoria Ram : 32 MB
Tarjeta de Video : Sis 6205
 
 Como ven las maquinas son diferentes pero ambas cumplen con las
 especificaciones minimas para instalar Linux, se que esta lista es de
 Debian pero les pregunto esto ya que yo uso Debian y el servidor que va
 a utilizar la maquina remota sera un Debian, espero no molestar a nadie
 de la lista por usar la distribucion de Mandrake pero es la distribucion
 que me pidieron que instale :(, gracias a todos y espero que puedan
 ayudarme.
 Una ultima pregunta, si tengo configurado correctamente las X en Debian
 que archivos necesito copiar para que en Mandrake no tenga que volver a
 configurarlas?? el XF86config.conf ?? alguno otro??

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Excesiva lentitud de internet y gnome

2000-12-11 Thread Oscar Ramos Moreno
Desde q configuré mi conexion con linux el principoal y único problema q 
tengo es la lentitud de la conexión respecto a la q consigo con win.
No descarto la posibilidad de un error durante la compilación del kernel 
dados mis básicos conocimientos de las opciones de configuración de 
conexiones PPP. Esto produce q no pueda daros más datos para intentar 
arreglarlo, pero estoy abierto a sugerencias.


Mi otro problema de lentitud es el del gnome, este viene desde q actualicé 
(hace 3 días) con el CD de la espiral. No he cambiado nada y  las cosas 
siguen igual pero más lento.





Como dice mi colega gracias a los q me escuchan.
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sobre el netscape-communicator

2000-12-11 Thread Sergio Valdivielso Gomez
Buenas a [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Acabo de actualizarme el netscape-communicator, con todas sus
dependencias,  desde la 4.75.deb a la 4.76.deb, pensando que esta
arreglaba una serie de bugs, que aunque no sean graves, pues si que son
molestos, por ejemplo, cuando redacto un nuevo mensaje y al acceder a la
libreta de direcciones, si pico con el raton dos veces, en una
direccion, pues me desaparece el nestcape. Es como si con el raton pico
en file y luego en exit, que se cierra el programa, pues eso, si pico
dos veces en la libreta de direcciones pues se cierra el programa. No se
si me he explicado, bien. Y por ultimo, aunque no lo he probado todavia,
me sucede tambien que se queda bloquedo el programa cuando acceso a
determinadas paginas que tienen java.
Sabrian darme alguna respuesta, arreglo, parche, etc para esto?
Muchas gracias.
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problemas con potato (ppp, kernel)

2000-12-11 Thread egene

hola,
es mi primer mensaje a la lista, después de haber instalado potato; es casi 
la primera vez que me atrevo con Debian, hasta ahora he sido usuario (y no 
experto) de las otras distribuciones, sobre todo Red Hat, Mandrake y un 
poco SuSE;
uso un P200, Ati Mach 64 (sin problemas), SBlaster 16 compatible y una 
tarjeta NE2000 compatible (ambas reconocidas sin problemas) y moden externo 
USRobotics; he instalado los módulos correspondientes con modconf (sonido, 
puerto paralelo, red, ppp), pero me encuentro con algunos problemas 
derivados de mi desconocimiento de Debian ( o de Linux), concretamente 
quiero exponer estos dos:


1. cualquier intento de conectar a Internet fracasa; con wvdial, pppconfig, 
ppp-gnome y kppp, con mensajes de error (demonio muerto súbitamente,...); 
he revisado /etc/ppp/options y he descomentado la línea lock pero nada; 
no tenía problemas con RHat; ¿podéis darme una pista?; adjunto mensaje de 
error, que no sé descifrar:

pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself
pppd: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to 
do so.

pppd: (None of the available passwords would let it use an IP address.)

2. no puedo recompilar el kernel; cuando llego a make bzImage, a pesar de 
que hace todo el proceso, justo al final devuelve este mensaje de error:

make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/arch/i386/boot'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/include -E 
-D__BIG_KERNEL__ -traditional -DSVGA_MODE=NORMAL_VGA  bootsect.S -o bbootsect.s

as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s
make[1]: as86: Command not found
make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [bzImage] Error 2
como es la primera vez que me pasa, tampoco sé cómo interpretarlo, he 
estado revisando algunos archivos de /boot pero igualmente no me aclaro;


¿podéis echarme una mano?;
gracias de antemano



Re: [lProyecto debian-es (descrip. de paq. en castellano)

2000-12-11 Thread Julian Armando Mena Zapata

Si, yo leo los mensajes. El trabajo se esta haciendo y eso es lo
importante, con el avance las cosas se iran a donde deben ir, se depura
con ideas de otras partes y etcetera.

Este mensaje, por ejemplo, me llego de tres sitios. Eso si, no mas lo ley
una vez =). Al que le interese se informa de las cosas o sino para eso los
amigos.

Suerte y pulso



Re: Mas sobre Supra

2000-12-11 Thread Santiago Romero
El lun, 11 de dic de 2000, a las 08:21:58 -0500, c d dijo:
 ¿Y cómo sabéis que es un winmodem?

 PCI INTERNO = Winmodem.
 USB = Winmodem.

 En http://www.linmodems.org hay unos drivers para winmodems Lucent,
 SupraExpress, etc) bajo Linux. Mira a ver si el tuyo está soportado.

 Para saber si tienes un winmodem, visita la lista oficial:

http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html

 ¿Alguien lo ha usado? ¿Al ser externo me aseguro
 de que no es un castañamodem?

 salu2!

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.forward

2000-12-11 Thread Lemus Moreno Jose A
saludos

quiero dar forward a los mensajes que me llegan en una maquina  hacia otra
cuenta de correo se que con el archivo .forward se hace esto pero no he
encontrado la manera de hacerlo si alguien fuera tan amable de decirme
como se lo agradeceria mucho.

Gracias

Y arriba Debian 

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Re: problemas con potato (ppp, kernel)

2000-12-11 Thread Israel Gutierrez
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El dom, 10 de dic de 2000, a las 09:37:10 +0100, egene dijo:
 
 1. cualquier intento de conectar a Internet fracasa; con wvdial, pppconfig, 
 ppp-gnome y kppp, con mensajes de error (demonio muerto súbitamente,...); 
 he revisado /etc/ppp/options y he descomentado la línea lock pero nada; 
 no tenía problemas con RHat; ¿podéis darme una pista?; adjunto mensaje de 
 error, que no sé descifrar:
 pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself
 pppd: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to 
 do so.
 pppd: (None of the available passwords would let it use an IP address.)

Estas pidiendo a tu servidor que se autentifique, pon en el fichero
options noauth
 2. no puedo recompilar el kernel; cuando llego a make bzImage, a pesar de 
 que hace todo el proceso, justo al final devuelve este mensaje de error:
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/arch/i386/boot'
 gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/include -E 
 -D__BIG_KERNEL__ -traditional -DSVGA_MODE=NORMAL_VGA  bootsect.S -o 
 bbootsect.s
 as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s
 make[1]: as86: Command not found
Te falta el ensamblador, ahora mismo no te puedo mirar en que paquete
viene, prueba con apt-cache search as86 haber que te dice.
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Que impresora me aconsejan comprar?

2000-12-11 Thread Miguel Angel Rodríguez
Hola.

Estoy por comprar una impresora para realizar trabajos gráficos
(fotografía, publicidad). Hasta ahora la impresión ha sido el punto
más debil que he conocido en Linux. Por ello pregunto. aunque consulté
el linux printing no me decido.

Mis planes son comprar una Epson stylus photo de carro ancho 1270 o
superior.

¿Qué opinan los entendidos? ¿Podré sacarle toda la utilidad a una
impresora como ésta?

De antemano gracias.

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[Fwd: Re: modem Supra interno]

2000-12-11 Thread Jose Velasco

Pues yo tengo ese moden y su precio ronda las 10.000 Pts, osease nada
barato, y si incluye el DSP cosa
que el Supra 56k SST no incluye, pero el 56k V iPRO si lo incluye, es
cierto que no funciona, pero no
es por que sea un softmodem total!!, Lo que pasa es que Diammond, no
suelta prenda, pero si tuvieramos
las especificaciones (datasheets) me imagino que alguien ya habría hecho
el driver adecuado para Linux!!

Lo mejor es irse a un modem Externo, o a un ISA (aunque no sería
recomendable), o bien a alguno
de los modems internos (PCI) que ya tiene disponibles drivers para
Linux, (por ejemplo los que
llevan un chipset LUCENT), quizás algun día se decidan a hacer publico
los datasheets, y entonces ya
no habrá problema!!

Salu2. (Espero que no me este equivocando mucho)!!

 Original Message 
Asunto: Re: modem Supra interno
Reenviado-De: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:49:41 +0100
De: Santiago Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: Lista Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Referencias: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

El sáb, 09 de dic de 2000, a las 06:29:18 -0500, c d dijo:
 ¿Cómo hago funcionar un modem Supra Express 56i PRO en Debian 2.2?

 Ese modem es un WINMODEM: solo funciona para Windows porque le falta
 la mitad de chips... ¿no te diste cuenta de que su precio es inferior
 al de los demas? Todo el trabajo lo hace la CPU con los drivers para
 Windows. No te irá ni en msdos, beos, linux, os2, etc. Solo en Windows.

 Quejate al que te lo vendió por la estafa...

 Por  favor,  pasito  a  pasito  o que  alguien  me  diga  dónde  hay
 documentación  al respecto  en español.  Muchas gracias.  Un saludo,
 Carlos

 si tuvieras un modem de verdad bastaria con seguir los pasos de la
 seccion articulos de mi pagina http://www.escomposlinux.org/sromero/ .
 De todas formas mira en www.linmodems.org a ver si hay por algun
 casual algun driver para tu modem (habia para ciertos modelos del
 supra, pero no para todos).

 Lo mas seguro: modem externo serie.
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Re: Mas sobre Supra

2000-12-11 Thread Miguel Angel Vilela
El lun, 11 dic 2000, c d escribió:
 ¿Y cómo sabéis que es un winmodem?
 Mirándolo, veo un chip de conexant (¿Rockwell?-por lo que pone en la web, es 
 la misma compañía). Los anteriores modelos tenían dos chips de Rockwell.
 Mi modem es exactamente el Supra Express 56i PRO VCC.
 Si me decis que seguro que es un winmodem, lo cambio sin problemas. Ahora, 
 ¿por cuál que se pueda conseguir facilmente? He pensado en un externo de 
 U.S.Robotics
 ¿Alguien lo ha usado? ¿Al ser externo me aseguro de que no es un castañamodem?
 Por favor, responderme rápido, que estoy desesperado.
 Gracias y un saludo,
 CARLOS
 


Hola, tengo un modem externo U.S.Robotics 56K que funciona de maravilla.
La configuración es muy sencilla, la hice inicialmente con los scripts de pppd
(ppp-on y ppp-of) y funciona de maravilla, aguanta buena caña y no es
castañamodem ;-). También me ha funcionado bien con kppp y wvdial. Es una
buena opcion para conectar una LAN de un par de pcs a internet (en mi casa
tengo dos en red, en unos meses serán tres).

Un saludo,

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Re: Que impresora me aconsejan comprar?

2000-12-11 Thread Miguel Angel Vilela

Hola

En la pagina 204 de la revista PC World de Diciembre de 2000 tienes una
tabla comparativa sobre impresoras, en la que podrás ver que la impresora
Lexmark Z52 (unas 30.000 ptas., garantia de 1 año, ruido 45 dBa, 2400x1200,
paralelo o usb, 2 cartuchos, 4 colores, 6 con cartucho fotográfico) 
tiene controladores para Linux, UNIX, Mac OS, y todos los windozes (9X, Me, NT
4, 2000). No sé si será suficiente para lo que quieres, es de gama media. Si te
decides a probarla te agradecería que me contaras la experiencia ;-)

Un saludo,

 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Miguel Ángel Vilela ~ ~ ~ ~ ~


El lun, 11 dic 2000, Miguel Angel Rodríguez escribió:
 Hola.
 
 Estoy por comprar una impresora para realizar trabajos gráficos
 (fotografía, publicidad). Hasta ahora la impresión ha sido el punto
 más debil que he conocido en Linux. Por ello pregunto. aunque consulté
 el linux printing no me decido.
 
 Mis planes son comprar una Epson stylus photo de carro ancho 1270 o
 superior.
 
 ¿Qué opinan los entendidos? ¿Podré sacarle toda la utilidad a una
 impresora como ésta?
 
 De antemano gracias.
 
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Re: Grado de avance de Debian-es

2000-12-11 Thread José Esteban

Hola.

No sé si esto de volver a los colores causará algún problema con lynx, 
pero estaría bien que las letras que están completas salieran en otro 
color (lo de que no sean pinchables puede impedir a alguien rectificar o 
revisar las traducciones que hizo, así es que mejor no). La q ya lo está 
y eso anima. Voy a hacer unos cuantos.


Chao.

Jaime E. Villate wrote:


Jon Noble wrote:


Hola, tengo una sugerencia tonta para la página del proyecto Debian-es. Pienso
que sería agradable poder ver el grado de avance total de las traducciones, es
decir, el número de descripciones traducidas y el total.


Hola,
Gracias por tu sugerencia. Lo he hecho y como podéis ver en la página de
la lista de paquetes, ya hemos traducido 20%.



Igual también sería bueno incluir esas cifras para cada letra en la tabla
principal de selección, ¿o quizás sería un poco exagerado?


Me parece un poco exagerado, pero si otras personas se pronuncian a
favor, pues lo puedo hacer fácilmente.

Un saludo,
Jaime



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Re: .forward

2000-12-11 Thread Luis Cabrera Sauco

  Quien:Lemus Moreno Jose A 
  Cuando:   lunes, 11 de diciembre del 2000, a las 02:22, 
  Qué:  .forward 


 saludos
 
 quiero dar forward a los mensajes que me llegan en una maquina  hacia otra
 cuenta de correo se que con el archivo .forward se hace esto pero no he
 encontrado la manera de hacerlo si alguien fuera tan amable de decirme
 como se lo agradeceria mucho.

echo [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], admin  .forward

Puedes meter direcciones locales a la maquina o direcciones
reales. El mensaje será reenviado a tantas direcciones como le
metas al fichero.

 Gracias
 


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Re: Que impresora me aconsejan comprar?

2000-12-11 Thread Luis Cabrera Sauco

  Quien:Miguel Angel Rodríguez 
  Cuando:   lunes, 11 de diciembre del 2000, a las 05:57, 
  Qué:  Que impresora me aconsejan comprar? 


 Hola.
 
 Estoy por comprar una impresora para realizar trabajos gráficos
 (fotografía, publicidad). Hasta ahora la impresión ha sido el punto
 más debil que he conocido en Linux. Por ello pregunto. aunque consulté
 el linux printing no me decido.
 
 Mis planes son comprar una Epson stylus photo de carro ancho 1270 o
 superior.

Con una Epson Stylus Photo EX (A3) no hay ningún problema ;)

 ¿Qué opinan los entendidos? ¿Podré sacarle toda la utilidad a una
 impresora como ésta?

Aparte del www.linuxprinting.org, mirate las impresoras
soportadas por las últimas versiones del Gimp. Son bastantes ;)

 De antemano gracias.
 



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RE: Mas sobre Supra

2000-12-11 Thread yashan
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On 11-Dec-2000 c d wrote:

 ¿por cuál que se pueda conseguir facilmente? He pensado en un externo de
 U.S.Robotics
 ¿Alguien lo ha usado? ¿Al ser externo me aseguro de que no es un
 castañamodem?

Yo uso un US Robotics 56 K externo y va de PM :-)

no tienes mas que enchufarlo y ya anda 

 Gracias y un saludo,
Salu2

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KERNEL-PACKAGES.

2000-12-11 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hej!
Vart hittar man ovannämnda kernel-package eller vad det heter?
Har tittat på för mig tänkbara ställen som /binary-i386/base och admin och
utils och misc.
/Anders.




Re: KERNEL-PACKAGES.

2000-12-11 Thread Hans Davidsson
Svaret på din fråga finns troligtvis i main/source/devel/

 Hej!
 Vart hittar man ovannämnda kernel-package eller vad det heter?
 Har tittat på för mig tänkbara ställen som /binary-i386/base och
admin och
 utils och misc.
 /Anders.



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Re: apt-get install paket

2000-12-11 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:55:30PM +0100, Rolf Edlund wrote:
 Hej!
 
 Om jag vet vilket paket jag vill installera, så kör jag ovanstående
 kommando (source.list pekar på min CD-Rom).
 
 Men om jag vill instalera ett vist program, men inte vet i vilket paket
 det ligger. Hur gör jag enklast isf ?

* Söka efter programnamnet på freshmeat.net, altavista eller något.
* Fråga någon
* Gissa :)

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Re: ICQ with debian firewall

2000-12-11 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

   I have licq and micq running nicely here.

On Sunday 10 December 2000 19:31, Nate Amsden wrote:
 Kyle Peterson wrote:
  I looked into that module and from what I gather its doesn't work with
  ICQ 200, just ICQ99.  The only way I can see is to use port forwarding.

 possible...i only use licq ..dont know if it works with other clients.

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beans problem in gnujsp.

2000-12-11 Thread Choi Kyusic


I installed gnujsp and tested the examples in /usr/doc/gnujsp/examples
and they worked.

But, I cannot get the following jsp script to work.

jsp:useBean id=a class=mybean.A scope=page /
html
body
h1The Famous JSP Hello Program/h1
% String s = GNUJSP; %
The following line should contain the text Hello GNUJSP World!.
brIf thats not the case start debugging ...
p
Hello %= s % World!
/body
/html

The test result shown in browser is like following.

Exception while servicing request for /~kyusic/hello.jsp:

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: mybean.A
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:311)
at org.gjt.jsp.JspServlet$Page.process(JspServlet.java:640)
at org.gjt.jsp.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:284)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:311)
at 
org.apache.jserv.JServConnection.processRequest(JServConnection.java:314)
at org.apache.jserv.JServConnection.run(JServConnection.java:188)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:314)

A.java file is like following.

package mybean;
public class A {
public String toString() {
return hello;
}
}


I put the file A.java in /var/www/jspbean/mybean and added the following lines 
in /etc/jserv/zones/root.properties

repositories=/var/www/jspbean

and

servlet.org.gjt.jsp.JspServlet.initArgs=scratchdir=/var/cache/gnujsp,jserv=true,checkclass=true,pagebase=/var/www,compiler=/usr/bin/jikes
 %source% -classpath %class path%:/var/www/jspbean

I think I followed the manuals right and exact, but It doesn't work...

If anyone using beans in gnujsp on a Debian System, would you please
send your configuration files(all the files under /etc/jserv/)?

Or, if anyone knows why my configuration doesn't work, please let me know..

Thank you.

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Re: ICQ with debian firewall

2000-12-11 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

try the icq module first. It did not work for me, so I had to do a 
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L 10.161.67.65 4000 -R 192.168.1.1 4000

With this option, there is no need to reconfigure the icq clients. Even
without this option, most parts of icq work, except filetransfer and some
sort of chat (as far as I know).

When this also does not work, read the Ip-Masq. HOWTO. You have to forward
ports 2000-2020 for every client and reconfigure it.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Kyle Peterson wrote:

 Hello everyone.  I'm planning on changing my network router from Sygate 4.0
 on a Win NT 4.0 server to a debian ip masq machine.  Right now, ICQ is
 working excellent with sygate.  How does it work with IP masq?  When I set
 the firewall rules, to I have to open ports on the firewall, or just have
 them forwarded to the right machines using ipmasqadm?
 
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Re: ICQ with debian firewall

2000-12-11 Thread Kyle Peterson
I think port 4000 is used for ICQ99, ICQ2000 uses 5190 (i think).  But thank
you, I'll try that out.

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From: Sebastiaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: ICQ with debian firewall


 Hi,

 try the icq module first. It did not work for me, so I had to do a
 ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L 10.161.67.65 4000 -R 192.168.1.1 4000

 With this option, there is no need to reconfigure the icq clients. Even
 without this option, most parts of icq work, except filetransfer and some
 sort of chat (as far as I know).

 When this also does not work, read the Ip-Masq. HOWTO. You have to forward
 ports 2000-2020 for every client and reconfigure it.

 Greetz,
 Sebastiaan


 On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Kyle Peterson wrote:

  Hello everyone.  I'm planning on changing my network router from Sygate
4.0
  on a Win NT 4.0 server to a debian ip masq machine.  Right now, ICQ is
  working excellent with sygate.  How does it work with IP masq?  When I
set
  the firewall rules, to I have to open ports on the firewall, or just
have
  them forwarded to the right machines using ipmasqadm?
 
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Re: change xterm-debian

2000-12-11 Thread kmself
on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 05:12:13PM -0600, ktb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   I was wondering if there was anyway to permanently change the
   environment variable TERM from xterm-debian to just xterm?
   When I access pine at work to read mail it flips out.  The
   server is running redhat and it's not changing.  It seems I've
   seen this come up a while back but I can't find anything in the
   archives.  Why xterm-debian anyway?  What is the benefit? 
   Thanks,
   kent

In your .profile on the remote box:

if [ $TERM = xterm-debian ]; then
export TERM=xterm
fi

...for a large set of values you want to test for, a case/esac statement
might be more appropriate.

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X error message

2000-12-11 Thread Lance Simmons
I recently started getting the following error message when I try to
run xinit as a user:

  X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.

I've been running XFree86 4 for awhile (about 2 months before it
entered woody), and have never received this error message. I can't
remember, but it seems the error showed up about 3 days ago, right
after I upgraded several of the X packages.

I can still run X as root, and can use xdm or gdm for users, but I
prefer starting it from the command line, so that I can quickly open up
an X session on another virtual terminal whenever I want.

Any suggestions about what the problem might be? I would prefer to be
using potato, but vmware demands a later libc6 that's not in that
distribution. 
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Re: Very strange fetchmail problem

2000-12-11 Thread Glyn Millington
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:15:48AM +0200, thus spake Martin Fluch:
 On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Timmy Douglas wrote:
 reading message 1 of 3 (16420 octets)
 fetchmail: timeout after 60 seconds waiting for listener to respond.


I don't think your problem is with fetchmail, but with whatever is waiting
on port 25 to receive the post from fetchmail.  Sendmail/Exim/Postfix
usually lurk there to receive the goods. Which MTA are you running?  What do
you get if you do 

$telnet localhost 25   

?

I run postfix and get...

Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 glynthebearded.localdomain ESMTP Exim 3.12 #1 Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:18:53 
+

You should get something similar if the MTA is set up properly.


HTH

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Re: Further apologies.

2000-12-11 Thread Glyn Millington
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:36:47PM -0500, thus spake Jim Kroger:
 Dear List,
 
 I incorrectly stated that the managers of the Debian list sent copies 
 of all my emails to several professors, my boss, and Princeton. That 
 was incorrect, this and the voice mail were not from them, but from 
 elsewhere. My apologies again for starting all this, and for 
 crediting this to Debian. In fact they took no action except to 
 unsubscribe me.
 
 Jim Kroger

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Re: X error message

2000-12-11 Thread John Travis
On Monday 11 December 2000 07:46, Lance Simmons wrote:
 I recently started getting the following error message when I try to
 run xinit as a user:

   X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.

 I've been running XFree86 4 for awhile (about 2 months before it
 entered woody), and have never received this error message. I can't
 remember, but it seems the error showed up about 3 days ago, right
 after I upgraded several of the X packages.

 I can still run X as root, and can use xdm or gdm for users, but I
 prefer starting it from the command line, so that I can quickly open up
 an X session on another virtual terminal whenever I want.

 Any suggestions about what the problem might be? I would prefer to be
 using potato, but vmware demands a later libc6 that's not in that
 distribution.

Have a look at /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config.  Change the allowed_users from root 
to console (or anybody to use xdm/gdm etc.).

HTH,

jt



Q: Any advantage using primary/logical partitions?

2000-12-11 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

I got some great help on re-partitioning a dos partition into several
seperate primary partitions (wow, a mouthful)... But for future
reference, is there  apreference for using primary versus logical
partitions?

ie Next install should I use:

Primary /boot   
Primary /
Primary /swap
Logical /home
Logical /usr/local

or

Primary /boot
Primary /usr/local
Primary /home
Logical /
Logical /swap

Any thoughts?

Jonathan

PS At present my boot is on hda5 which is at teh start of my etended
partition, because I had dos on the primary. I assume it's ok there
since all works ok. But is it bettr to make it teh firstparitition using
fdisk first cylinders option?

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Re: vanilla vs. compact

2000-12-11 Thread C. Falconer

At 03:32 AM 12/10/00 -0500, you wrote:

What are the differences between the vanilla and compact install
besides the obvious listed at the Debian site?  When I installed with
the vanilla method (hard drive floppy-less) the console looked fine.
With compact, I have this low-res penguin image on top that won't go
away unless I go to another console and then back.  And the cursor is
block instead of underlined.  And worst of all the screen is shifted
over to the right.  I know I can adjust that with the buttons, but
nothing else does this.


Yes - the compact kernel image uses the frame buffer options for the 
console and gives you the benefit of a 80x30 line console (with the 
beer-drinking penguin)


Look at the command fbset for some options on how to do stuff, or get the 
kernel source and compile your own.


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Re: Setting up a postscript printer

2000-12-11 Thread MH
Vi scribis:
 
 I have a Lexmark Optra E312 Postscript printer that I am trying,
 unsuccessfully, to configure.
 
 I decided to use CUPS as the LinuxPrinting-HOWTO mentions that to be
 quite easy. So I apt-get installed cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsys-client,
 qtcups and xpp, the last two packages being frontends.
[...]
I don't know much about CUPS...
 Alternatively, is there another way to setup this postscript printer ? I
 have the printer's PPD file so I was assuming that this would have been
 really easy.
Yes the alternative is easy (with no need of a custom ppd file). 
Having installed a printer spooler (like lprng), (apt-)get yourself a
printer filter (although it's a postscript printer, the filter facilitates
adjustments like resolution [600x300 in your case I think], and let you deal
automatically with a lot file formats) like apsfilter or
magicfilter. Start the configtool (e.g. magicfilterconfig), and here you
are.
HTH

MH

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Re: Creating CD's from ISO's

2000-12-11 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Hi Jack,

since you are talking about CD-formats (iso9660,joliet), my first guess
would be that you had your cd burning software create a new cd image
containing the donloaded image as its only file. This is wrong! Try to
pursuade the program to _not_ create an image, but burn your downloaded
image _as is_ to the CD.

HTH,
Heinrich

Jack H wrote:
 
 Hi,
   I have been trying to create the Installation CD's for Debian from the 
 ISO's I have downloaded. For some unknown reason, my CD's do not act like 
 they are supposed to afterwards.  Oh sure, the icon show's up in Explorer 
 from the CD icon as the OS that is recorded on the cd, but they will not boot 
 to the cd.  Yes, I have the CD-ROM as my first boot device in BIOS.
   I'm running Win98 SE on the machine with my burner.
   My System info:
   Asus P3V133 MB latest BIOS
   Celeron 400MHz not over-clocked
   SB-16 SC
   Ovislink 8139ATX NIC
   Adaptec 78xx SCSI Adapter for cd-rw
   Voodoo3-2000 AGP 16 meg video
   20GB Fujitsu 7200RPM hdd w/17GB free space
   384MB PC-100 Non-ECC
   52X CD-ROM,
   Philips CD3600 CD-RW with the very latest Firmware.
   I record the CD's in iso9660 format, Joliet, and neither worked.  :( It 
 still will not boot to it.  I tried using a boot disk, but when it gets to 
 the CD, I get This isn't a valid CD..
   I finally had to have my friend Nate make them for me.  My recorder makes 
 other cd's just fine.  Audio, Data, you name it.
   Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
   Thanks in advance,
 
   Jack
 
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SOLVED: Re: Very strange fetchmail problem

2000-12-11 Thread Martin Fluch
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Glyn Millington wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:15:48AM +0200, thus spake Martin Fluch:
  On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Timmy Douglas wrote:
  reading message 1 of 3 (16420 octets)
  fetchmail: timeout after 60 seconds waiting for listener to respond.
 
 
 I don't think your problem is with fetchmail, but with whatever is waiting
 on port 25 to receive the post from fetchmail.  Sendmail/Exim/Postfix
 usually lurk there to receive the goods. Which MTA are you running?  What do
 you get if you do 
 
 $telnet localhost 25   

Darn! ... I knew that it would be something like this. On Saturday libc6
was updated and it tried to restart inetd and probably failed (or
something similar). Exim didn't start on port 25. Stoping and then again
starting inetd (not /etc/init.d/inetd restart) did the trick.

Thank you!

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remote installing debian.

2000-12-11 Thread Knud Sørensen
Hi 

I have a server with a colocater which is running redhat.

I have asked them to install debian, but almost a month have gone 
with now progress.

So, is it possible to install debian via telnet or something ?

Hope you can help!

Knud.



Re: SIOCADDRT: File exists

2000-12-11 Thread Leen Besselink
 I use my Debian 2.2r2 as a router, but it always shows the message 
 SIOCADDRT: File exists at boot every time.
 I use the kernel 2.2.17 that come with the debian 2.2.

That's because your using the old /etc/init.d/network file, what you can
do is edit that file and comment:

#route add -net 127.0.0.0
#route add -net 192.168.0.0

or whatever your network numbers are, the idea is, 2.2 kernels do this
them selfs.

In Debian 2.2 there is a new file:
/etc/network/interfaces which is the new way, just look in the docs of I
think netbase (/usr/share/doc/netbase).

Hope this helps.

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Re: WDM broken in woody ?

2000-12-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi S!

You wrote:

 Can you drop me an email or post to debian-user once the corrected WDM
 package has been uploaded ? I am stuck in XDM-hell!!

A new wdm package (1.20-5) was installed in the archive last night, so it 
should be all right now (if your local mirror is up-to-date).

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Re: remote installing debian.

2000-12-11 Thread kmself
on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 09:15:42AM +0100, Knud Sørensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Hi 
 
 I have a server with a colocater which is running redhat.
 
 I have asked them to install debian, but almost a month have gone 
 with now progress.
 
 So, is it possible to install debian via telnet or something ?

You want to install Debian on a system which you do not have direct
physical access to?  Tricky, but not impossible.  You'll probably
want to have someone you can call to physically wrangle the system,
and might be advised to pull to box, run the installation locally,
then have it redeployed at the colo.  I'd particularly advise this
if you're think telnet is a protocol still worth using.

Remote installation of Debian isn't a recommended or supported method.
With luck and skill, a remote installation might be possible along
the lines of a chroot jail method discussed on this list recently.
Assuming you don't have a high level of technical skill, I'm going
to leave my answer vague and recommend you pull the box and have the
install done locally, unless you care to do the legwork to figure
out what the chroot method would entail.

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Case of login relevant?

2000-12-11 Thread Ralf G. R. Bergs
Hi there,

this is to raise the issue whether the case of the login (username, user-ID) 
is relevant on Linux.

I today observed that ipopd 4.7c-1 does NOT pay attention to the case of the 
login, but that proftpd 1.2.0pre10-2 DOES honor the case of the login (this is 
on a pure Debian 2.2 system.)

I'm not sure which one is correct (I believe ipopd is correct,) but in either 
case shouldn't both packages react the same way? Is there a definitive 
standard that defines what's right and what's wrong?

Thanks,

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Re: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd.

2000-12-11 Thread Colin Watson
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:14:00PM +, Colin Watson
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Bah. Try 2.2.{15,16} or 2.4.0-testsomething. :) I'm running 2.4.0-test6
 here with no problems (um, apart from the annoying truncate() bug that
 occasionally bites INN, but I know that's fixed in later kernels).

No, don't.

2.2.14 - 2.2.16 have remote root exploits.

Forgot about that, sorry. AFAIK 2.4 is fine, but I haven't read
linux-kernel since Friday.

The VM message appears annoying, when it occurs, but not fatal, usually.
In my experience.

It's (at least) been known to cause 10- to 15-minute freezes, and I
think signals some VM instability beyond that.

Incidentally, does anyone have a good pointer to specific mentions of
this error message?  I've been rolling through linuxhq and Kernel
Traffic, can't find anything since August or so.

I know it was reported in
http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0010.3/0428.html; I'm sure
it should have been reported before that, but the quick searches I did
didn't turn up anything useful.

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Re: Setting up a postscript printer

2000-12-11 Thread Manegold
S.Salman Ahmed wrote:
 
 I have a Lexmark Optra E312 Postscript printer that I am trying,
 unsuccessfully, to configure.
 
 I decided to use CUPS as the LinuxPrinting-HOWTO mentions that to be
 quite easy. So I apt-get installed cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsys-client,
 qtcups and xpp, the last two packages being frontends.

The last two are not part of potato. Did you install them from woody?
 
 I copied the Optra E312's PPD file to /usr/share/cups/models and was
 able to successfully add the Optra E312 printer using their web
 interface (running on localhost:631). And I was also able to print the
 test page from web interface, and the test page came out fine.
 
 But that is all I have been able to print. When I try using either of
 the two frontend, qtcups or xpp, to print a file, I can see the Data LED
 on the printer blink but nothing gets printed. The log file shows the
 following:
 
 (/var/log/cups/error_log)
 I [10/Dec/2000:20:40:49 -0500] Job 15 queued on 'OptraE312' by 'ssahmed'.
 I [10/Dec/2000:20:40:49 -0500] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/texttops 
 (PID 658) for job 15.
 I [10/Dec/2000:20:40:49 -0500] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops 
 (PID 659) for job 15.
 I [10/Dec/2000:20:40:49 -0500] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel 
 (PID 660) for job 15.
 
 I have added myself to the lp group but I don't know if that makes a
 difference or not. My printer is setup on the first parallel port:
 
 (some output from dmesg)
 parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP]
 parport0: irq 7 detected
 parport0: cpp_daisy: aa5500ff(98)
 parport0: assign_addrs: aa5500ff(98)
 parport0: Printer, Lexmark International Lexmark Optra E312
 lp0: using parport0 (polling).
 lp0: console ready
 
 I also tried using the CUPS-bsd command line utilities (lp, lpr) and
 they produce the same effect as well: the Data LED blinks but nothing
 gets printed at the printer.
 
 Can someone explain what I am doing wrong, or what step I have missed
 setting up CUPS ?
 
 Alternatively, is there another way to setup this postscript printer ? I
 have the printer's PPD file so I was assuming that this would have been
 really easy.

I tried CUPS too, but didn't get it to work (potato packages). Since I
print locally only, I went back to magicfilter, which works. In your
case you could set up magicfilter (or apsfilter) to use the postscript
output.

HTH
Thorsten



What is VNC?

2000-12-11 Thread Manegold
Hi!
I'm wondering what VNC is. According to the package listing it is a
remote display system. Therefore something like X.
But what does that mean? Can I use it instead of X?
Does it need special apps that make use of it, or can normal X/KDE/Gnome
- apps make use of it?
What are the advantages of VNC over X?

TIA
Thorsten



Upgrading potato to woody (keymap problems)

2000-12-11 Thread Guido Kuhlmann
Dear all,

I have upraged my potato to woody. I got the cd images from:
ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial.

After a few problems I got woody to start, but know there is a little
problem. When I run a xterm window I can't use Alt Gr (no pipe symbol or
@ for example). If I go to my text console there everything works
fine. Do anybody know this problem or could anybody tell me how I can
fix this problem? I want to use the german keymap.

Thanks,
Guido Kuhlmann



Re: Office software - and printers

2000-12-11 Thread Andre Berger
kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:

[snip some advice]

 Notes:
 
 [1] At some point after I die, I *will* write the oft-promised essay
 The Office Suite is Dead.  Meantime, suffice to say that the office
 suite was created to solve a marketing problem -- selling software
 people didn't want to compete with software they did want, by bundling
 it with other software they also wanted.  When software is free, this
 marketing rationale is largely irrelevant.

I think this is just one half of the truth. I hate these dinosaurs
too, favourite example Netscape Communicator. But NscComm and M$
software in general show, average users want frames. It must look
familiar, quality is no criterium to them. They see what the SW
does, and this is obviously very persuading because they associate this
with user-friendlyness.

[snip some vim note]

I won't tell you what I said when me and Vi(m) first met and I just
wanted to enter text...

Note from my side: I promised never to use qutotation marks again ;)

Andre



Re: APOLOGY!!!! for my earlier posts about unsubscribing

2000-12-11 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 09:11:47PM -0500, Christopher Mosley
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 
  On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 
   on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:06:40PM -0500, Jim Kroger
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
   My own comments to this list.

 ...

  Stop covering your ass, Kroger made a mistake, but your behavior
  Karsten Self was disgusting!

 Thanks for your comments, Chris.

 I saw someone acting like a royal ass, I responded commensurately.  He

 apologized.  I accepted.  I'm not trying to destroy the poor man, just

 encouraging him to act responsibly.  I believe the points been made.

...and let's not forget, if you're an American presidential candidate,
then it's considered quite acceptable to publicly describe someone as a
major-league A**hole. In fact it probably wouldn't even stop you from
becoming president...

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Re: What is VNC?

2000-12-11 Thread Harry Henry Gebel
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:20:03AM +0100, Manegold wrote:
 Hi!
 I'm wondering what VNC is. According to the package listing it is a
 remote display system. Therefore something like X.
 But what does that mean? Can I use it instead of X?
 Does it need special apps that make use of it, or can normal X/KDE/Gnome
 - apps make use of it?
 What are the advantages of VNC over X?

Provides remote display services, but has alot of differences from X. You
can use it to view your displays from other systems, even if they are
running a different operating system. The is a VNC X server available that
will allow you to use standard X apps with VNC. The are servers and clients
available for Unix/Linux, Windows, Mac, BeOS and others. There is also a
Java client but I don't think there is a Java server. So you can use it
(for example) to view the display of an NT system from a Linux workstation
over the network; I use it (combined with SSH) to administer NT systems in
London, UK, Wilmington, Delaware, Dover, Delaware, and Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania. (I am physically located outside of Wyoming, Delaware and
only own Linux systems.) It's a very useful little program, you go to the
VNC webpage at http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ , they explain it alot
better than me. And did I mention in is REALLY easy to set up and GPLed.

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direcpc satellite reciever

2000-12-11 Thread Livia Admin
anyone here tried using direcpc satellite reciever? or anyone got a driver in 
debian linux... i tried from helius.com but it supports only caldera and redhat.

thanks

K_r3aPeR



Re: ICQ with debian firewall

2000-12-11 Thread Sebastiaan

 it works ...provided you configure ipmasq, i suggest using the ipmasq
 module.
 
 http://www.tsmservices.com/masq/detailform.php3?124
 
 it's not perfect but works..
 
No, it does not work for me. When I do a depmod -a  I get an error
regarding unresolved symbols, and I get a lot of them when insmodding it.

Did I forget something?

Thanks,
Sebastiaan




list codes?

2000-12-11 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,
I know this is not really Debian related, but I started wondering.
Often I see terms like OT and AFAIK. What do they mean?
I guess OT means something like 'unusual' and AFAIK gives me a dangerous
feeling. 
Just wondering.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan



Re: HEllo

2000-12-11 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Am Montag, 11. Dezember 2000 01:02 schrieb annhilat:
 Well, i just bought the Asus A7V mainboard, using a Promise UDMA 100
 chip... Well, i cant get Debian install system to identify my HD
 controller, since its not an ordinary IDE controler... Please help me
 with this issue..

What kind of controler is it? I saw support for PROMISE 
PDC20246/PDC20262/PDC20267 in kernel 2.4.0pre1test11, but none in 2.2.x 
kernels.
Maybe you can install it on another system and exchange the hd's then - after
putting the newest 2.4 kernel on it, of course...

-Cajus



Re: Password

2000-12-11 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Am Montag, 11. Dezember 2000 04:38 schrieb Anthony Ryan:
 Hi,
   I recently got a 486 with Debian 2.1 pre-loaded. I'm also
 just getting into unix for the first time, and want a machine to muck
 around with. The problem is, I don't know the password or login. I
 don't have the OS on an installer disk, so would rather not resort to
 wiping the hard drive and starting from scratch. If it comes to that,
 how big is it? Is there a work-around?

If it is booting via lilo, and lilo is installed without password 
protection/timeout=0, then you can simply put some stuff on the bootprompt 
like:

lilo: linux init=/bin/bash

You will get into a shell then. Just do:

# mount / -oremount,rw

Make a backup of your /etc/shadow, and remove the encrypted password between
the : for root.
Then:

# mount / -oremount,ro

and reboot. Your system now has an empty password ;-)

-Cajus



Upgrading Xemacs packages

2000-12-11 Thread Frodo Baggins
Hi debianers,
  I'd like to upgrade some of the lisp packages shipped with potato's
XEmacs to their more recent version from http://www.xemacs.org Is
there any standard procedure to do it in debian in order not to
break the file structure?

Thanks for your help.

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Going Debian: advice request

2000-12-11 Thread Rodolfo Canet-Castello
Hi all

After long doubts and four years using Linux, I'm finally decided to
use Debian as my distro and not change anymore. Would you
kindly clear some things to me?

I'm thinking of installing potato, since am really fed up of half-boiled
distros (RH7, for instance), but I´d like to have some packages in
more bleeding-edge versions. Any problem about that? Should I
install woody instead if I intend to use non-stable packages?

-After reading Debian docs, I don't get how updating works. Should
I expect stable packages of gnome 1.2, XFree 4, etc.for potato or
they're reserved for when woody becomes stable? In different
words: through updating, does potato become woody, or potato
doesn't change and it's woody what will change until stability?

-How stable is unstable? I'm not running a server, should I go to
woody directly?

I know these are questions are very newby-like, but you don't know
how different Debian sounds for a Red Hat/Mandrake guy. Thanks
for all.

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Re: Setting up a postscript printer

2000-12-11 Thread Carl Johnson
S.Salman Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a Lexmark Optra E312 Postscript printer that I am trying,
 unsuccessfully, to configure.
 
 I decided to use CUPS as the LinuxPrinting-HOWTO mentions that to be
 quite easy. So I apt-get installed cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsys-client,
 qtcups and xpp, the last two packages being frontends.
 
 I copied the Optra E312's PPD file to /usr/share/cups/models and was
 able to successfully add the Optra E312 printer using their web
 interface (running on localhost:631). And I was also able to print the
 test page from web interface, and the test page came out fine.
 
 But that is all I have been able to print. When I try using either of
 the two frontend, qtcups or xpp, to print a file, I can see the Data LED
 on the printer blink but nothing gets printed. The log file shows the
 following:
 
 (/var/log/cups/error_log)
 I [10/Dec/2000:20:40:49 -0500] Job 15 queued on 'OptraE312' by 'ssahmed'.
 I [10/Dec/2000:20:40:49 -0500] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/texttops 
 (PID 658) for job 15.
 I [10/Dec/2000:20:40:49 -0500] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops 
 (PID 659) for job 15.
 I [10/Dec/2000:20:40:49 -0500] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel 
 (PID 660) for job 15.
 
 
 I have added myself to the lp group but I don't know if that makes a
 difference or not. My printer is setup on the first parallel port:
 
 (some output from dmesg)
 parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP]
 parport0: irq 7 detected
 parport0: cpp_daisy: aa5500ff(98)
 parport0: assign_addrs: aa5500ff(98)
 parport0: Printer, Lexmark International Lexmark Optra E312
 lp0: using parport0 (polling).
 lp0: console ready
 
 
 I also tried using the CUPS-bsd command line utilities (lp, lpr) and
 they produce the same effect as well: the Data LED blinks but nothing
 gets printed at the printer.
 
 Can someone explain what I am doing wrong, or what step I have missed
 setting up CUPS ?
 
 Alternatively, is there another way to setup this postscript printer ? I
 have the printer's PPD file so I was assuming that this would have been
 really easy.

I recently installed the same type of printer and had no problems, but
I didn't use CUPS.  I just have the basic lpr and magicfilter packages
installed, and just told magicfilterconfig that I had a 600dpi laser
printer.  It certainly looks and sounds as though your printer is
being recognized and that data is being sent to it.  The printer is
supposed to auto-select between PS and PCL, so that shouldn't be a
problem.  It really sounds like CUPS isn't doing what you expect it to
do, but I don't use it so I can't help there.

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Re: dselect

2000-12-11 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* Ken == Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ken Kind of, thanks.  But I remember something even more general,
Ken like I could select Workstation, and it would install a whole
Ken bunch of packages that one might want, like editors, X, Internet
Ken stuff, etc.

This was part of the Debian 2.1 installation. One reason why it was
replaced was that you can't run it a second time. Therefore it is
deleted after the installation.

Ciao,
Martin



Re: Going Debian: advice request

2000-12-11 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Rodolfo Canet-Castello wrote:

 Hi all
 
 After long doubts and four years using Linux, I'm finally decided to
 use Debian as my distro and not change anymore. Would you
 kindly clear some things to me?
 
 I'm thinking of installing potato, since am really fed up of half-boiled
 distros (RH7, for instance), but I´d like to have some packages in
 more bleeding-edge versions. Any problem about that? Should I
 install woody instead if I intend to use non-stable packages?
With apt (Debian package manager) you can choose if you would like to
install stable or unstable versions. 


 I know these are questions are very newby-like, but you don't know
 how different Debian sounds for a Red Hat/Mandrake guy. Thanks
 for all.
I have used Redhat before swithching to Debian. The most differnces I
encountered is the /etc/ directory. The bootproces is slightly different,
but mutually. The biggest adventure for me when switching to Debian is the
package management, which is way better than rpm. Furthermore Debian is
more developed for people who want to play with their system.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan




RE: list codes?

2000-12-11 Thread michael.bartl1
Hi,
I know this is not really Debian related, but I started wondering.
Often I see terms like OT and AFAIK. What do they mean?
I guess OT means something like 'unusual' and AFAIK gives me a dangerous
feeling. 
Just wondering.

  I don't know OT myself, so someone else should answer this one!

  AFAIK = As far as I know
  IM(H)O = In my (humble) opinion
  ASAP = as soon as possible

  hope that helps...

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


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kdm does not start local X server in woody

2000-12-11 Thread Salvador Petit Marti
I upgraded to kdm_2.0.1-2 from ftp.de.kde.org. The new kdm package seems to 
have problems to start the local X server. I'm using xserver-svga 3.3.6 for 
compatibility problems in a i386 dual processor machine. This is 
/var/log/xdm-errors:


XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: disabled
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psaux, buttons: 3
(**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: Video
(**) SVGA: Monitor ID: Monitor
(--) SVGA: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1024x768 needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1152x864 needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1600x1200 needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1800X1440 needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode 1800X1440 needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(--) SVGA: PCI: S3 ViRGE/GX2 rev 4, Memory @ 0xdc00
(--) SVGA: S3V: ViRGE/GX2 rev 4, Linear FB @ 0xdc00
(--) SVGA: Detected S3 ViRGE/GX2
(--) SVGA: using driver for chipset s3_virge
(--) SVGA: videoram:  4096k
(--) SVGA: Ramdac speed: 170 MHz
(--) SVGA: Detected current MCLK value of 90.000 MHz
(--) SVGA: chipset:  s3_virge
(--) SVGA: videoram: 4096k
(**) SVGA: Using 16 bpp, Depth 16, Color weight: 565
(--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 170.000 MHz
(**) SVGA: Mode 1024x768: mode clock =  85.000
(**) SVGA: Mode 800x600: mode clock =  69.650
(**) SVGA: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  45.800
(**) SVGA: Mode 640x400: mode clock =  36.000
(**) SVGA: Mode 400x300: mode clock =  25.000
(**) SVGA: Mode 320x240: mode clock =  15.750
(**) SVGA: Mode 320x200: mode clock =  12.588
(--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768
(--) SVGA: s3_virge: Using hardware cursor
(--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)
(--) SVGA: XAA: Solid filled rectangles
(--) SVGA: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy
(--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 pattern fill
(--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 color expand pattern fill
(--) SVGA: XAA: CPU to screen color expansion (bitmap, TE/NonTE imagetext, 
TE/NonTE polytext)
(--) SVGA: XAA: Using 8 128x128 areas for pixmap caching
(--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and non-transparent stipples
(--) SVGA: XAA: Horizontal and vertical lines and segments
error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
xaw-wrappers: unable to determine libc version of 
/usr/X11R6/bin/xconsole.real.
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy  

  
Problems seems to come from the file 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy which is in the correct place 
(/etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy) but pertains to xserver-common (version 4). 
Compatibility problems between xfree versions?

Remote xdm queries work well anyway, so this is not a main issue because I'm 
the only one that logs in console and I'm using startx right now.

Upgrading to kdm-2.0.1-3 did not solve the problem, either.

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Re: messages to root

2000-12-11 Thread Hedi Berriche
 Eddie == Eddie Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eddie Hello,
Eddie How do I stop the emails from my computer to root about system check?

Hedi Do you have installed the package logcheck (dpkg -l logcheck), it's the 
one
Hedi responsible for such emails, so you may consider removing it.

Or at least modifiy the file /etc/cron.d/logcheck to lower the frequency of
the messages.
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Slow LAN transfers on Deb laptop

2000-12-11 Thread sc


I've been fooling around with a 2.2 Debian distribution on a ThinkPad 
T20 (company laptop, *cough*), and the network transfers on my home 
LAN are really slow.  After spending a few hours going through Deja 
and various HOW-TO's, I'm running out of hairs to pull...


- The file transfers work fine when I boot Win98 up on the laptop so 
the network hardware should be ok.


- I'm using a LinkSys PCMCIA card that's supposed to be NE2K based, 
and cardmgr recognizes it as such.  Nothing seems to be amiss in the 
syslog with respect to picking up the card.


- I was monitoring the eth0 interface with ifconfig, and the bigger 
the files, the worse the collisions become.  A small file or info 
requests are fairly collision free, but transferring a 2.5 MB file 
will give me collisions of around 17-25% of the packets received. 
But the laptop is only negligibly competing for hub time vs. the 
other computers on the LAN .


- I've tried excluding certain IRQs from the card in case there was a 
hardware conflict, but after excluding 3,4, 7, and 11, I'm starting 
to think that this isn't the issue.


Does anybody here have any ideas as to what's going on?  I thought 
Linksys was fairly decent wrt Linux compatibility (?)


Steve



samba daemon not working

2000-12-11 Thread Mark Sanchez
Hi and Good Morning to everybody !

When I run 'smbd -D' I get the following message a smbd dies


[2000/12/11 10:45:33, 0] lib/util_sock.c:open_socket_in(863)
  bind failed on port 139 socket_addr=0.0.0.0 (Address already in use)


(taken from the /var/log/smb log file)

Any hints ?


Thank for your help.

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Re: list codes? Thanks

2000-12-11 Thread Sebastiaan
Thanks all! That makes me understand the discussions better.


On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Sebastiaan wrote:

 Hi,
 I know this is not really Debian related, but I started wondering.
 Often I see terms like OT and AFAIK. What do they mean?
 I guess OT means something like 'unusual' and AFAIK gives me a dangerous
 feeling. 
 Just wondering.
 
 Greetz,
 Sebastiaan
 
 
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inetd questions

2000-12-11 Thread David Purton

Hello,

I have a couple of questions regarding inetd (and other things)

1)  Is possible to control what interfaces the services in inetd bind to?

2)  is possible to specify either
a) what interfaces a particular user can log in through  or
b) what ip addresses a particular user can log in from?

thanks,




Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars 
on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them
as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order
to rush down again.  In a way this is funny,...

Francis A Schaeffer

David Purton

http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/
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RE: list codes?

2000-12-11 Thread sc
On 12/11/00 5:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
Hi,
I know this is not really Debian related, but I started wondering.
Often I see terms like OT and AFAIK. What do they mean?
I guess OT means something like 'unusual' and AFAIK gives me a dangerous
feeling. 
Just wondering.

http://www.ucc.ie/info/net/acronyms/ for hours and hours of wholesome 
fun...

Steve



RE: RE: list codes?

2000-12-11 Thread Michael Bartl


Von: sc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Datum: Mon, 11 Dec 00 05:05:34 -0600
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: RE: list codes?

On 12/11/00 5:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
Hi,
I know this is not really Debian related, but I started wondering.
Often I see terms like OT and AFAIK. What do they mean?
I guess OT means something like 'unusual' and AFAIK gives me a dangerous
feeling. 
Just wondering.

http://www.ucc.ie/info/net/acronyms/ for hours and hours of wholesome 
fun...

Steve


OT 
Object Technology 
Old Testament 
Operating Thetan [A Scientology term] 
OverTime 

nice link, but I can't figure out what OT means...
(my favourite is the Operating Thetan, but who knows :)


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turning off icq sounds

2000-12-11 Thread David Purton
at the risk of being flamed for not reading the two important lines at the
bottom of something :)...

how can I stop licq from playing sounds when a message arrives?

I've tried the obvious like unchecking the on events enabled
checkbox.  This gives some success, but somehow when I restart licq it's
back the way it was :(

any thoughts?


Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars 
on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them
as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order
to rush down again.  In a way this is funny,...

Francis A Schaeffer

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Re: inetd questions

2000-12-11 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 09:34:04PM +1030, David Purton wrote: 

 1)  Is possible to control what interfaces the services in inetd bind to?

I don't thik I understand what you want. Are you talking about a
server which has several interfaces and you want i.e. smtp to be
reached through eth0?

 2)  is possible to specify either
   a) what interfaces a particular user can log in through  or
   b) what ip addresses a particular user can log in from?

Sure. ssh and telnet (bad!) logins can be restricted through
/etc/hosts.deny or /etc/hosts.allow
Phil



RE: RE: list codes?

2000-12-11 Thread Edward Craig
OT: means Off Topic (but maybe relevant or interesting enough to get
answers or commentary on). Thus, this discussion is OT for debian-user.

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Re: inetd questions

2000-12-11 Thread David Purton
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Philipp Schulte wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 09:34:04PM +1030, David Purton wrote: 
 
  1)  Is possible to control what interfaces the services in inetd bind to?
 
 I don't thik I understand what you want. Are you talking about a
 server which has several interfaces and you want i.e. smtp to be
 reached through eth0?

yeah - but in this case I mean local and remote networks

 
  2)  is possible to specify either
  a) what interfaces a particular user can log in through  or
  b) what ip addresses a particular user can log in from?
 
 Sure. ssh and telnet (bad!) logins can be restricted through
 /etc/hosts.deny or /etc/hosts.allow

sorry, not quite clear - I mean I want some users to be alowed to login
from a particular ip address, but not others, not just a blanket block.

this stems from the lack of imagination used by my dad in password
picking...



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as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order
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Francis A Schaeffer

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Re: Case of login relevant?

2000-12-11 Thread Ralf G. R. Bergs
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:42:51 +0100, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote:

I today observed that ipopd 4.7c-1 does NOT pay attention to the case of the 
login, but that proftpd 1.2.0pre10-2 DOES honor the case of the login (this 
is 
on a pure Debian 2.2 system.)

Please disregard this message. It turned out that the cause for the problem 
that the user couldn't log in was NOT that related to the above.


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Re: list codes?

2000-12-11 Thread Colin Watson
Sebastiaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know this is not really Debian related, but I started wondering.
Often I see terms like OT and AFAIK. What do they mean?
I guess OT means something like 'unusual' and AFAIK gives me a dangerous
feeling. 

OT stands for off-topic, and AFAIK stands for as far as I know.
They're really just long-standing abbreviations in various electronic
media (Usenet and mailing lists). There should be plenty of FAQs lying
around that make an effort to list them.

HTH (hope that helps),

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Re: inetd questions

2000-12-11 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 09:59:17PM +1030, David Purton wrote: 

   2)  is possible to specify either
 a) what interfaces a particular user can log in through  or
 b) what ip addresses a particular user can log in from?
  
  Sure. ssh and telnet (bad!) logins can be restricted through
  /etc/hosts.deny or /etc/hosts.allow
 
 sorry, not quite clear - I mean I want some users to be alowed to login
 from a particular ip address, but not others, not just a blanket block.

I see. This can be set in /etc/security/access.conf
Phil



Re: remote installing debian.

2000-12-11 Thread Jonathan Gift
Quick Q. I noticed after installing gnupg that creating a .gnupg
directory got rid of most of the msgs errors around gnup I was getting
on headers from certain people, like you. But there's one left:

gpg: Signature made Mon
gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found


I assume the first is ok. The second? Or should there be nothing?

Thanks

Jonathan


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Re: configuring debian for network mail clients

2000-12-11 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:22:29PM -0500, Dwight Johnson wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 What is the name of the debian pop package? I do not see one in the list
 of packages. I do not want imap.

apt-cache search pop will give pages full of packages,
you'll have a little weeding to do though:), this will give you
ipopd, cyrus-pop3d and qpoper to choose from. There may be more.

  to send mail via your debian box you need to tell exim it's okee to relay
  mail for your local domain (in particular for your wife's machine).
  
 What precise setting is that? I tried setting:
 
 relay_domains = verdi

I think it needs a fully qualified domain name here, and its ip-nr should be
knowable, either through bind or in /etc/hosts.

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Re: Going Debian: advice request

2000-12-11 Thread Tom Pfeifer
To answer one of your questions

Once a stable version is released, it only gets updated (primarily) with
security fixes. In other words, you won't see XFree 4.X, etc. in potato. 

So potato will never become woody, but rather woody will become frozen
for testing, and then stable when it's released. As soon as woody goes
frozen, a new unstable branch is started to pick up where woody left
off.

Tom

Rodolfo Canet-Castello wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 After long doubts and four years using Linux, I'm finally decided to
 use Debian as my distro and not change anymore. Would you
 kindly clear some things to me?
 
 I'm thinking of installing potato, since am really fed up of half-boiled
 distros (RH7, for instance), but I´d like to have some packages in
 more bleeding-edge versions. Any problem about that? Should I
 install woody instead if I intend to use non-stable packages?
 
 -After reading Debian docs, I don't get how updating works. Should
 I expect stable packages of gnome 1.2, XFree 4, etc.for potato or
 they're reserved for when woody becomes stable? In different
 words: through updating, does potato become woody, or potato
 doesn't change and it's woody what will change until stability?
 
 -How stable is unstable? I'm not running a server, should I go to
 woody directly?
 
 I know these are questions are very newby-like, but you don't know
 how different Debian sounds for a Red Hat/Mandrake guy. Thanks
 for all.
 
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 Instituto Valenciano de Investigaciones Agrarias (IVIA)
 Dpto. Recursos Naturales
 Aptdo. oficial. 46113-Moncada (Valencia). ESPAÑA-SPAIN.
 Phone: 34-96-1391000  Fax: 34-96-1390240
 Web page: http://www.ivia.es
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problem with perl in unstable

2000-12-11 Thread Paolo Pedaletti
Ciao, I have the following problem:

# dpkg --configure xserver-common
Configuro xserver-common (4.0.1-10) ...
Can't locate warnings/register.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6
/usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 .) at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6/vars.pm line 11.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/vars.pm line 11.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/File/Spec.pm line 15.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/File/Spec.pm line
15.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux/IO/File.pm
line 113.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux/IO/File.pm line 113.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/FileHandle.pm line 9.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 6.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm
line 6.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22.
dpkg: errore processando xserver-common (--configure):
 il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di
 errore 2
 Sono occorsi degli errori processando:
  xserver-common


How I can fix this problem?
ii  perl-5.005  5.005.03-7.1 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and Report 
Language.
ii  perl-5.005-base 5.005.03-7.1 The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister
ii  perl-base   5.004.05-1.1 Fake package assuring that one of the -base 
package is installed

TNX

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ACPI Clients?

2000-12-11 Thread RP

Hi.

Does any one knows if there are ACPI clients to suspend or to query battery 
state, like apm?


Cheers.

RP



Re: Netscape 4.76 problems

2000-12-11 Thread Christoph Simon
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 06:09:21 -0500
S.Salman Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  CS == Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 CS  Hi!  Anybody knows why netscape just hangs when trying to open
 CS this page: http://www.eddiedanielsclarinet.com/ I found similar
 CS pages showing the same problem. Someone else had this problem or
 CS found a solution?
 CS 
 
 Doesn't hang when I visit the site with Netscape-4.76:
 
 ii  netscape-base- 4.76-1 Popular World-Wide-Web browser software (bas
 ii  netscape-base- 4.76-1 4.76 base support for netscape
 ii  netscape-java- 4.76-1 Netscape Java support for version 4.76
 ii  communicator   4.76-1 Meta package that depends on other packages
 ii  communicator-b 4.76-1 Communicator base support for version 4.76
 ii  communicator-s 4.76-1 Netscape Communicator 4.76 (static Motif)
 
 I am using woody.

I'm also using 4.76-1 and woody. Still hangs. It's not even updating the
windows as soon as I hit enter. The statusline shows `transferring data...'
I tried with java/cookies enabled and disabled, always the same thing.
There are also some other sites showing the same behaviour.

 
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Re: Netscape 4.76 problems

2000-12-11 Thread Christoph Simon
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 06:23:18 -0500
serge delorme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Wild guess...this site use flash, do you have this plugin installed ?

Yes. I have all plug-ins installed. If I check help-plugins it is shown.
Any other guesses?

 
 
 Le dimanche 10 déc. 2000 à 08:48:38 -0200, Christoph Simon a écrit:
  Hi!
  
  Anybody knows why netscape just hangs when trying to open this page:
  http://www.eddiedanielsclarinet.com/
  I found similar pages showing the same problem. Someone else had this
  problem or found a solution?
  
  Thanks.
  
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Major X problem: Xwrapper.config missing!

2000-12-11 Thread Dan Griswold
Hi all,

Please, I hope someone can help me with this.

After an apt-get upgrade, I no longer can run X.

I get these messages:

X: unable to open wrapper config file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
giving up.

So, these two files have disappeared. I don't know why. Any
suggestions on how to get them back?

thanks in advance,

Dan

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Network printing

2000-12-11 Thread Eileen Orbell

Hi,

Firstly, thanks to everyone who helped me with my sound card worries, I 
finally have it all working nicely including Audio CD's working.  I have 
had problems with sound for quite a long time so I am pretty damm 
happy.  Anway's, another problem I have had for some time is the inability 
to print.  I have a HP720 hooked to my Windows 2000 box and would really 
like to print from Debian to it.  I also have a NT box which uses the 
printer.  Is it possible that I could print to the network printer?
My Debian machine goes straight into a Hub which has cable modem going into 
it also and my Windows 2000 and NT machine go into a Linksys router which 
also accesses the cable modem.  The main reason I do not use the router for 
the Debian box is because I have a static IP for hosting my website and a 
domain name that is resolved to the IP.  Not sure if I said to much here 
but thought it might decide if I could or could not network print.


Thanks



Eileen Orbell
Software  Internet Applications
Capitol College
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