devicekit i gnome-power
Sembla que ja fa un temps que hi ha una guerra entre aquests dos
superherois, al planeta testing. Les hostilitats han arribat a un punt
en que és impossible la convivència de tots dos en el mateix
territori. En un univers paral:lel portàtil, els deus van decidir
expulsar a devicekit, però ara, quan els deus volen exercir el poder
al univers portàtil, la Mare Natura es rebel·la:
Els paquets següents contenen errors.
devicekit-power gnome-session wireshark-common
Els paquets nous següents s'instal·laran:
libdevkit-power-gobject1{a} libsensors4{a} lm-sensors{a}
Els paquets següents se suprimiran:
libsmi2-common{a}
Els paquets següents s'actualitzaran:
gnome-session-bin libsnmp-base libsnmp15 nautilus nautilus-data
6 paquets actualitzats, 4 instal·lats, 1 a suprimir i 0 a no actualitzar.
Es necessita obtenir 10,4MB d'arxius. Després del desempaquetat
s'alliberaran 16,7MB.
No s'han trobat les dependències del paquets següents:
devicekit-power: Trenca: gnome-power-manager ( 2.27.5) però el
2.24.4-3 està instal·lat.
gnome-session: Trenca: gnome-power-manager ( 2.28) però el 2.24.4-3
està instal·lat.
wireshark-common: Depèn: libsmi2-common però no es pot instal·lar.
Les accions següents resoldran les dependències:
Mantín la versió actual dels següents paquets:
devicekit-power [No instal·lat]
gnome-session [2.26.2-1 (now)]
gnome-session-bin [2.26.2-1 (now)]
libsmi2-common [0.4.8+dfsg-1 (testing, now)]
libsnmp-base [5.4.1~dfsg-12 (now)]
libsnmp15 [5.4.1~dfsg-12 (now)]
nautilus [2.26.3-1 (now)]
nautilus-data [2.26.3-1 (now)]
Quan els deus decideixen fer tornar a devicekit, gnome-power
s'emprenya i es vol endur als seus amics:
Els paquets següents contenen errors.
devicekit-power
Els paquets nous següents s'instal·laran:
libdevkit-power-gobject1{a}
0 paquets actualitzats, 2 instal·lats, 0 a suprimir i 6 a no actualitzar.
Es necessita obtenir 111kB d'arxius. Després del desempaquetat
s'utilitzaran 508kB.
No s'han trobat les dependències del paquets següents:
devicekit-power: Trenca: gnome-power-manager ( 2.27.5) però el
2.24.4-3 està instal·lat.
Les accions següents resoldran les dependències:
Suprimeix els següents paquets:
gnome-desktop-environment
gnome-power-manager
Deixa les dependències següents pendents de resolució:
gnome-screensaver recomana gnome-power-manager
Farts de tanta tonteria, els deus van decidir fer proves en un altre
planeta, permetent que gnome-power marxés amb la seva camarilla, però
el resultat va ser un mon desert. Ni tant sols sortia el sol, doncs
Apolo.gdm també se'n va anar, junt amb tots els seguidors (i eren
molts) de gnome-power. Pràcticament ens vam quedar sols Caius Consolus
i jo.
Ara els deus es troben en una perillosa cruïlla: en un món hi ha el
devicekit, que no deixa actualitzar, i en el món paral·lel portàtil hi
ha el gnome-power que diu que si marxa d'allà aplicarà la política
soviètica de terra cremada.
Apart, hi ha el tauró de cables, que aprofitant el relaxament de
Neptú, també fa de les seves. Em sembla, però, que aquest va per
lliure. No li interessa ni devicekit ni gnome-power. Només vol sexe
amb la libsmi2, però ningú sap on és aquesta.
Vosaltres, Oh, companys del Mont Olimpus, com ho heu sol·lucionat?
Signat: Dionisos
P.D. mentrestant, me'n vaig a agafar una turca, que és lo meu
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Re: devicekit i gnome-power
Hi després no m'estranya que hi hagi gent, entre ells un servidor, que és
meravelli del poc transit de la llista, si és un espectacle :)
Fa unes setmanes estava amb un mix de testing i sid, via pinning i amb
APT::Default-Release testing; i ja vaig veure que hi havia garrotades, ara
estic a unstable ... i ho deixo així.
PD: Això de la turca sona interessant em sembla que a mi també m'aniria bé.
El 6 / desembre / 2009 20:04, Ricard Pradell rpbs...@gmail.com ha escrit:
Sembla que ja fa un temps que hi ha una guerra entre aquests dos
superherois, al planeta testing. Les hostilitats han arribat a un punt
en que és impossible la convivència de tots dos en el mateix
territori. En un univers paral:lel portàtil, els deus van decidir
expulsar a devicekit, però ara, quan els deus volen exercir el poder
al univers portàtil, la Mare Natura es rebel·la:
Els paquets següents contenen errors.
devicekit-power gnome-session wireshark-common
Els paquets nous següents s'instal·laran:
libdevkit-power-gobject1{a} libsensors4{a} lm-sensors{a}
Els paquets següents se suprimiran:
libsmi2-common{a}
Els paquets següents s'actualitzaran:
gnome-session-bin libsnmp-base libsnmp15 nautilus nautilus-data
6 paquets actualitzats, 4 instal·lats, 1 a suprimir i 0 a no actualitzar.
Es necessita obtenir 10,4MB d'arxius. Després del desempaquetat
s'alliberaran 16,7MB.
No s'han trobat les dependències del paquets següents:
devicekit-power: Trenca: gnome-power-manager ( 2.27.5) però el
2.24.4-3 està instal·lat.
gnome-session: Trenca: gnome-power-manager ( 2.28) però el 2.24.4-3
està instal·lat.
wireshark-common: Depèn: libsmi2-common però no es pot instal·lar.
Les accions següents resoldran les dependències:
Mantín la versió actual dels següents paquets:
devicekit-power [No instal·lat]
gnome-session [2.26.2-1 (now)]
gnome-session-bin [2.26.2-1 (now)]
libsmi2-common [0.4.8+dfsg-1 (testing, now)]
libsnmp-base [5.4.1~dfsg-12 (now)]
libsnmp15 [5.4.1~dfsg-12 (now)]
nautilus [2.26.3-1 (now)]
nautilus-data [2.26.3-1 (now)]
Quan els deus decideixen fer tornar a devicekit, gnome-power
s'emprenya i es vol endur als seus amics:
Els paquets següents contenen errors.
devicekit-power
Els paquets nous següents s'instal·laran:
libdevkit-power-gobject1{a}
0 paquets actualitzats, 2 instal·lats, 0 a suprimir i 6 a no actualitzar.
Es necessita obtenir 111kB d'arxius. Després del desempaquetat
s'utilitzaran 508kB.
No s'han trobat les dependències del paquets següents:
devicekit-power: Trenca: gnome-power-manager ( 2.27.5) però el
2.24.4-3 està instal·lat.
Les accions següents resoldran les dependències:
Suprimeix els següents paquets:
gnome-desktop-environment
gnome-power-manager
Deixa les dependències següents pendents de resolució:
gnome-screensaver recomana gnome-power-manager
Farts de tanta tonteria, els deus van decidir fer proves en un altre
planeta, permetent que gnome-power marxés amb la seva camarilla, però
el resultat va ser un mon desert. Ni tant sols sortia el sol, doncs
Apolo.gdm també se'n va anar, junt amb tots els seguidors (i eren
molts) de gnome-power. Pràcticament ens vam quedar sols Caius Consolus
i jo.
Ara els deus es troben en una perillosa cruïlla: en un món hi ha el
devicekit, que no deixa actualitzar, i en el món paral·lel portàtil hi
ha el gnome-power que diu que si marxa d'allà aplicarà la política
soviètica de terra cremada.
Apart, hi ha el tauró de cables, que aprofitant el relaxament de
Neptú, també fa de les seves. Em sembla, però, que aquest va per
lliure. No li interessa ni devicekit ni gnome-power. Només vol sexe
amb la libsmi2, però ningú sap on és aquesta.
Vosaltres, Oh, companys del Mont Olimpus, com ho heu sol·lucionat?
Signat: Dionisos
P.D. mentrestant, me'n vaig a agafar una turca, que és lo meu
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lmsensors non proise en compte de mes modifs
bonjour, [ note pour lecture en diagonale : oui je fais du sensors -s] un soucis avec sensors (cf plus bas) : les modifs que j'applique dans sensors ne sont pas prise en compte ! (genre 'ignore temp1 ' ) je fais une recherche w83627hf dans sensors.conf, et j'ajoute mes directives en dessous après modification : - sensors -s - modprobe -r w83627hf ; sleep 2s ; modprobe w83627hf mais rien n'est modifié, j'ai même poussé le vice a changer le libelle de +12v en aaa, bbb, ccc sur tous les capteurs w83627 (j'ai celui en hf à la fin) mais en vain. vous avez des pistes ? w83627hf-isa-0290 Adapter: ISA adapter VCore 1: +1.73 V (min = +1.65 V, max = +2.05 V) VCore 2: +1.23 V (min = +1.65 V, max = +2.05 V) ALARM +3.3V: +3.14 V (min = +2.82 V, max = +3.79 V) +5V: +4.54 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM +12V: +12.34 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM -12V: -12.28 V (min = -14.91 V, max = -14.91 V) ALARM -5V: -5.45 V (min = -7.71 V, max = -7.71 V) ALARM V5SB:+5.24 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM VBat:+3.17 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM fan1: 0 RPM (min = -1 RPM, div = 4) ALARM fan2: 0 RPM (min = -1 RPM, div = 4) ALARM fan3: 3391 RPM (min = -1 RPM, div = 2) ALARM temp1: +47.0°C (high = +0.0°C, hyst = +0.0°C) ALARM sensor = thermistor temp2: +53.5°C (high = +75.0°C, hyst = +72.0°C) sensor = thermistor temp3: -48.0°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C) sensor = thermistor cpu0_vid: +1.750 V beep_enable:enabled -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Plus de réseau !
Bonjour, Suite à une mise à jour qui date d'une semaine environ, je n'ai plus de réseau sur une machine en Squeeze / Sid, en wifi. Concrètement, la machine semble n'obtenir aucune réponse DHCP au démarrage. La couche wifi semble opérationnelle car je peux scanner mon réseau et la configuration réagit correctement lorsque je positionne l'essid. Il n'y a eu aucun changement côté box et adresse MAC de ma carte. Habituellement, en cas de problème de ce genre, je fais : iwconfig wlan0 essid mon_essid dhclient wlan0 Mais la connexion ne s'établit pas. J'ai une seconde machine similaire pour comparer les paquets installés. La version de dhcp3(-*) est similaire, il me semble que les noyaux sont les mêmes. Dans le doute, j'ai downgradé la libc6(-i686), mais sans résultat. Je ne sais pas trop par quel composant continuer mes investigations. Une idéee ? -- David -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Plus de réseau !
Le dimanche 6 décembre 2009 11:18:32, David Soulayrol a écrit : Bonjour, Suite à une mise à jour qui date d'une semaine environ, je n'ai plus de réseau sur une machine en Squeeze / Sid, en wifi. Concrètement, la machine semble n'obtenir aucune réponse DHCP au démarrage. La couche wifi semble opérationnelle car je peux scanner mon réseau et la configuration réagit correctement lorsque je positionne l'essid. Il n'y a eu aucun changement côté box et adresse MAC de ma carte. Habituellement, en cas de problème de ce genre, je fais : iwconfig wlan0 essid mon_essid dhclient wlan0 Mais la connexion ne s'établit pas. Si le wifi est en WPA, c'est probablement de ce coté qu'il faut chercher, la configuration de wpasupplicant a changé plusieurs fois ds debian. Quelle est la conf wifi ? -- FR -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
fsck se plante au démarra ge, mdp maintenance ne fonctionne pas
Salut, J'ai un disque qui a l'air gentiment en train de crever, fsck se vautre à chaque démarrage, et me propose de taper le mot de passe root pour la maintenance. Assez bizarrement, il m'est impossible de me logguer à ce moment là, le password root ne prend pas (j'ai tenté en qwerty, en clavier mac, etc.), donc je finis par taper Ctrl+D et laisser la machine démarrer. Le problème c'est qu'ensuite, le disque est monté (enfin, les deux partitions qui posent problème) l'un sur /usr/share, l'autre sur /home/commun, tous deux en ext3, je ne peux donc pas les checker. J'ai tenté des lsof et fuser sur chaque pour virer les programmes qui tournent dessus, mais : - pour /usr/share, il y a un bash qui lit un fichier de traduction gettext (.mo) - pour l'autre, il n'y a plus aucun processus présent avec lsof et fuser. Je sais queje peux utiliser un live-CD pour faire mon check, mais ceux que j'ai sont vieux et disent d'utiliser une version plus récente de fsck. Donc, comme je n'ai pas de RW sous la main dans l'immédiat, et que j'ai pas envie de ruiner un DVD pour si peu, je voulais savoir s'il n'y avait pas une solution pour : - faire le checkdisk, même si le disque est monté (d'ailleurs, pourqooi est-ce dangereux ?) - connaître réellement tous les processus utilisant une partition (quoique, dans tous les cas, je vois mal comment me passer de bash !) Merci d'avance Aurélien -- Aurélien -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: fsck se plante au démarrage, mdp main tenance ne fonctionne pas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aurelien a écrit : Salut, Salut, J'ai un disque qui a l'air gentiment en train de crever, fsck se vautre [...] Je sais queje peux utiliser un live-CD pour faire mon check, Tu peux aussi mettre ton live-CD sur une clef usb. - faire le checkdisk, même si le disque est monté Peut-être en le remontant en read only (mount -o remount,ro) ? Amicalement David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksbsecACgkQ18/WetbTC/pYbACdGAin46BCGxmFqSxJ6cnxcFje ovgAnj4B+EUOinufS9cI8uhLnuyOhg6E =UQxT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: fsck se plante au dém arrage, mdp maintenance ne fonctionne pas
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 09:30:16AM -0400, David Prévot wrote : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aurelien a écrit : Salut, Salut, J'ai un disque qui a l'air gentiment en train de crever, fsck se vautre [...] Je sais queje peux utiliser un live-CD pour faire mon check, Tu peux aussi mettre ton live-CD sur une clef usb. C'est vrai. (hum, faut que je regarde si j'en ai une chez moi ! Vu comment je m'éparpille) - faire le checkdisk, même si le disque est monté Peut-être en le remontant en read only (mount -o remount,ro) ? Ca enlève tout risque du checkdisk ? (je ne sais pas quels sont les risques exactement à faire un check disk sur un système de fichiers monté) -- Aurélien -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Debian 4 et IP alias
Bonjour, Dans le fichier /etc/network/interfaces j'ai les lignes uisvantes: auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp Apres le boot eth0 a été renommé en eth3: debian4:~# ifconfig -a eth3 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 08:00:27:1A:19:0F inet addr:192.168.1.86 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:576 Metric:1 RX packets:3804 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:988 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:481364 (470.0 KiB) TX bytes:135277 (132.1 KiB) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd020 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:199 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:199 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:40410 (39.4 KiB) TX bytes:40410 (39.4 KiB) sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) debian4:~# Je souhaite ajouter une IP alias à cette interface, je fais manuellement la commande: debian4:~# ip addr add 192.168.1.203 dev eth3 debian4:~# ping 192.168.1.203 PING 192.168.1.203 (192.168.1.203) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.203: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=3.33 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.203: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.046 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.203: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.042 ms --- 192.168.1.203 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.042/1.142/3.339/1.553 ms debian4:~# ifconfig eth3:0 eth3:0Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 08:00:27:1A:19:0F UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:576 Metric:1 Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd020 debian4:~# Je souhaite que IP alias se fasse au boot, j'ai donc rajouté les lignes suivantes dans /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth3:0 iface eth3:0 inet static address 192.168.1.203 Et apres le boot, le ping sur l'IP alias (192.168.1.203) ne repond pas. Quelqu'un a une idée? Merci. _ Vivez Noël avant l'heure avec Hotmail Magic Moment ! http://www.hotmailmagicmoment.com
Re: Plus de réseau !
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:53:26AM +0100, FR wrote: Le dimanche 6 décembre 2009 11:18:32, David Soulayrol a écrit : Bonjour, Suite à une mise à jour qui date d'une semaine environ, je n'ai plus de réseau sur une machine en Squeeze / Sid, en wifi. Concrètement, la machine semble n'obtenir aucune réponse DHCP au démarrage. La couche wifi semble opérationnelle car je peux scanner mon réseau et la configuration réagit correctement lorsque je positionne l'essid. Si le wifi est en WPA, c'est probablement de ce coté qu'il faut chercher, la configuration de wpasupplicant a changé plusieurs fois ds debian. Quelle est la conf wifi ? Mon réseau est en WEP parce que j'ai une carte, sur cette machine justement, qui ne supporte pas le WPA (autant qu'il m'en souvienne). Étant à la campagne et n'observant aucune activité étrange sur mon réseau, cela me convient jusqu'à présent. -- David -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: fsck se plante au démarrage, mdp main tenance ne fonctionne pas
Aurelien a écrit : Salut, J'ai un disque qui a l'air gentiment en train de crever, fsck se vautre à chaque démarrage, et me propose de taper le mot de passe root pour la maintenance. Assez bizarrement, il m'est impossible de me logguer à ce moment là, le password root ne prend pas (j'ai tenté en qwerty, en clavier mac, etc.), donc je finis par taper Ctrl+D et laisser la machine démarrer. Le problème c'est qu'ensuite, le disque est monté (enfin, les deux partitions qui posent problème) l'un sur /usr/share, l'autre sur /home/commun, tous deux en ext3, je ne peux donc pas les checker. J'ai tenté des lsof et fuser sur chaque pour virer les programmes qui tournent dessus, mais : - pour /usr/share, il y a un bash qui lit un fichier de traduction gettext (.mo) - pour l'autre, il n'y a plus aucun processus présent avec lsof et fuser. Tu peux essayer de redémarrer en mode single, peu de scripts de démarrage sont lancés et aucun daemon ne tournent. Avec Lilo, au boot tu sélectionnes le noyau qui t'interesse et tu fait suivre son nom par le mot clé single. Avec Grub, ça correspond au mode rescue. Ensuite, tu devrais pouvoir démonter tes deux partitions qui posent problèmes et les checker. Si tu as un problème avec bash, tu peux utiliser temporairement le shell sash (du paquet du même nom). C'est un shell sans dépendance pour les cas d'urgence. -- == | FRÉDÉRIC MASSOT | | http://www.juliana-multimedia.com | | mailto:frede...@juliana-multimedia.com | ===Debian=GNU/Linux=== -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: fsck se plante au démarrage, mdp maintena nce ne fonctionne pas
Aurelien a écrit : Salut, J'ai un disque qui a l'air gentiment en train de crever, fsck se vautre à chaque démarrage, et me propose de taper le mot de passe root pour la maintenance. Assez bizarrement, il m'est impossible de me logguer à ce moment là, le password root ne prend pas (j'ai tenté en qwerty, en clavier mac, etc.), donc je finis par taper Ctrl+D et laisser la machine démarrer. Le problème c'est qu'ensuite, le disque est monté (enfin, les deux partitions qui posent problème) l'un sur /usr/share, l'autre sur /home/commun, tous deux en ext3, je ne peux donc pas les checker. J'ai tenté des lsof et fuser sur chaque pour virer les programmes qui tournent dessus, mais : - pour /usr/share, il y a un bash qui lit un fichier de traduction gettext (.mo) - pour l'autre, il n'y a plus aucun processus présent avec lsof et fuser. Je sais queje peux utiliser un live-CD pour faire mon check, mais ceux que j'ai sont vieux et disent d'utiliser une version plus récente de fsck. Donc, comme je n'ai pas de RW sous la main dans l'immédiat, et que j'ai pas envie de ruiner un DVD pour si peu, je voulais savoir s'il n'y avait pas une solution pour : - faire le checkdisk, même si le disque est monté (d'ailleurs, pourqooi est-ce dangereux ?) - connaître réellement tous les processus utilisant une partition (quoique, dans tous les cas, je vois mal comment me passer de bash !) Merci d'avance Aurélien Salut, je ne sais pas quelle version de Debian tu utilises, en Squeeze il y a un bug sur le paquet udev qui conduit à un tas d'effets secondaires au démarrage, dont le fsck qui avorte, les périphériques (souris, clavier) incorrectement reconnus ou pas du tout, les partitions qui ne sont pas montées... Ça ne se produit pas nécessairement à tous les démarrages, et seulement sur certaines machines. Si tu utilises la version 146-5 de udev tu aurais intérêt à mettre à jour vers celle de Sid (148-2 actuellement, il y avait d'autres bugs bloquant sur les versions précédentes jusqu'à 148-1). -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: lien Desktop (résolu)
Bonjour, Remys.Morrissette a écrit : Le 2009-12-01 04:54, Yannick Fouquet a écrit : A la place du lien sur le bureau, on peut utiliser les raccourcis de nautilus. Cela renvoie bien vers le dossier d'origine. C'est utilisable dans la plupart des boites de dialogue et dans le menu raccourcis. Bon, j'ai fini par trouver. Le truc pour mettre un raccourci sur le bureau, et que l'emplacement obtenu soit aussi la cible. à partir d'un clic droit sur le bureau ; ajouter un lanceur / (Type) Emplacement et dans (Emplacement) utiliser 'parcourir' ou la syntaxe file:///lien le lien offre la cible directement comme emplacement, et non pas un autre autre vers la cible. C'est sans doute ce que fait Nautilus pour ses raccourcis. Merci d'avoir partagé l'info. @+ Yannick. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: fsck se plante au démarrage, mdp maintena nce ne fonctionne pas
tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: Aurelien a écrit : Salut, J'ai un disque qui a l'air gentiment en train de crever, fsck se vautre à chaque démarrage, et me propose de taper le mot de passe root pour la maintenance. Assez bizarrement, il m'est impossible de me logguer à ce moment là, le password root ne prend pas (j'ai tenté en qwerty, en clavier mac, etc.), donc je finis par taper Ctrl+D et laisser la machine démarrer. Le problème c'est qu'ensuite, le disque est monté (enfin, les deux partitions qui posent problème) l'un sur /usr/share, l'autre sur /home/commun, tous deux en ext3, je ne peux donc pas les checker. J'ai tenté des lsof et fuser sur chaque pour virer les programmes qui tournent dessus, mais : - pour /usr/share, il y a un bash qui lit un fichier de traduction gettext (.mo) - pour l'autre, il n'y a plus aucun processus présent avec lsof et fuser. Je sais queje peux utiliser un live-CD pour faire mon check, mais ceux que j'ai sont vieux et disent d'utiliser une version plus récente de fsck. Donc, comme je n'ai pas de RW sous la main dans l'immédiat, et que j'ai pas envie de ruiner un DVD pour si peu, je voulais savoir s'il n'y avait pas une solution pour : - faire le checkdisk, même si le disque est monté (d'ailleurs, pourqooi est-ce dangereux ?) - connaître réellement tous les processus utilisant une partition (quoique, dans tous les cas, je vois mal comment me passer de bash !) Merci d'avance Aurélien Salut, je ne sais pas quelle version de Debian tu utilises, en Squeeze il y a un bug sur le paquet udev qui conduit à un tas d'effets secondaires au démarrage, dont le fsck qui avorte, les périphériques (souris, clavier) incorrectement reconnus ou pas du tout, les partitions qui ne sont pas montées... Ça ne se produit pas nécessairement à tous les démarrages, et seulement sur certaines machines. Si tu utilises la version 146-5 de udev tu aurais intérêt à mettre à jour vers celle de Sid (148-2 actuellement, il y avait d'autres bugs bloquant sur les versions précédentes jusqu'à 148-1). Bonjour, j'ai pas suivi mais il y a aucun danger de taper le mot de passe root et tout simplement faire un 'fsck' tout court et du 'y' partout. En général c'est résolu. D'un autre coté il y a aussi les /etc/udev/rules.d/ que tu peux controler. amicalement -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE : Debian 4 et IP alias
Bonsoir, Je pense qu'il va falloir que tu lui spécifies un masque de sous réseau à ta nouvelle interface. Bonne soirée ! Le 6 déc. 2009, 3:42 PM, vic ros mekong...@hotmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Dans le fichier /etc/network/interfaces j'ai les lignes uisvantes: auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp Apres le boot eth0 a été renommé en eth3: debian4:~# ifconfig -a eth3 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 08:00:27:1A:19:0F inet addr:192.168.1.86 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:576 Metric:1 RX packets:3804 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:988 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:481364 (470.0 KiB) TX bytes:135277 (132.1 KiB) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd020 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:199 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:199 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:40410 (39.4 KiB) TX bytes:40410 (39.4 KiB) sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) debian4:~# Je souhaite ajouter une IP alias à cette interface, je fais manuellement la commande: debian4:~# ip addr add 192.168.1.203 dev eth3 debian4:~# ping 192.168.1.203 PING 192.168.1.203 (192.168.1.203) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.203: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=3.33 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.203: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.046 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.203: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.042 ms --- 192.168.1.203 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.042/1.142/3.339/1.553 ms debian4:~# ifconfig eth3:0 eth3:0Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 08:00:27:1A:19:0F UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:576 Metric:1 Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd020 debian4:~# Je souhaite que IP alias se fasse au boot, j'ai donc rajouté les lignes suivantes dans /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth3:0 iface eth3:0 inet static address 192.168.1.203 Et apres le boot, le ping sur l'IP alias (192.168.1.203) ne repond pas. Quelqu'un a une idée? Merci. -- Gagnez au cadeau par jour avec Hotmail Magic Moment ! Cliquez ici !http://www.hotmailmagicmoment.com
Re: Debian 4 et IP alias
vic ros a écrit : Bonjour, Bonsoir [...] # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp [...] auto eth3:0 iface eth3:0 inet static address 192.168.1.203 Il y a une erreur, cela doit etre eth0:0 L'interface eth0 n'est pas encore up a cause du dhcp, le systeme ne peut lui attribuer d'alias. La solution est de mettre une temporisation dans un script pre-up sur eth0:0 (commencer par un sleep 10 puis baisser la valeur si le demarrage est trop long) -- Daniel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Passage à Ext4
Bonjour, Le passage à Ext4 est-il une bonne solution sur une machine de production utilisant un kernel 2.6.31 ? Merci Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Passage à Ext4
Thierry Leurent wrote: Bonjour, Le passage à Ext4 est-il une bonne solution sur une machine de production utilisant un kernel 2.6.31 ? Merci Thierry Bonjour, j'en suis revenu. J'avais tout en ext4 sauf la boou pour une question de grub. J'attendrais la sid stable avant de me relancer. amicalement -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Passage à Ext4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thierry Leurent a écrit : Bonjour, Bonjour, Le passage à Ext4 est-il une bonne solution sur une machine de production J'ai envie de poser la question dans l'autre sens : quels sont les besoins qui justifient de passer à ext4, tout particulièrement sur une machine en production (ce serait différent sur une machine de test, justement ;). utilisant un kernel 2.6.31 ? Je suis tenté de reformuler la question précédente pour un noyau qui n'a même pas encore fait ses preuves sous unstable pour descendre dans testing. Amicalement David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkscB18ACgkQ18/WetbTC/rbzACbB3UmLXjOQYm2QqGxBexP/Gml 8C8AnjMcap6GZBzvE3c3V/Y8KmV8ncct =s3SA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Passage à Ext4
utilisant un kernel 2.6.31 ? Je suis tenté de reformuler la question précédente pour un noyau qui n'a même pas encore fait ses preuves sous unstable pour descendre dans testing. Je n'ai jamais attendu les noyaux dits officiellement stables par Debian pour faire fonctionner une machine qui me sert à travailler. Le 2.6.32 est annoncé stable, je l'ai compilé et je le recompilerai certainement au fur et à mesure des améliorations. Pourquoi attendre ? Le risque est minime. http://www.kernel.org/ M -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Plus de réseau !
la question est de savoir ce que donne lspci et sudo iwconfig (ou su - selon) est ce que ton driver est le bon(lsmod) il y a tellement de bidouillages possibles dans ce domaine ... bienvenue au club des problèmes wifi sous debian... pmd On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 15:57:43 +0100 David Soulayrol dsoulay...@free.fr wrote: On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:53:26AM +0100, FR wrote: Le dimanche 6 décembre 2009 11:18:32, David Soulayrol a écrit : Bonjour, Suite à une mise à jour qui date d'une semaine environ, je n'ai plus de réseau sur une machine en Squeeze / Sid, en wifi. Concrètement, la machine semble n'obtenir aucune réponse DHCP au démarrage. La couche wifi semble opérationnelle car je peux scanner mon réseau et la configuration réagit correctement lorsque je positionne l'essid. Si le wifi est en WPA, c'est probablement de ce coté qu'il faut chercher, la configuration de wpasupplicant a changé plusieurs fois ds debian. Quelle est la conf wifi ? Mon réseau est en WEP parce que j'ai une carte, sur cette machine justement, qui ne supporte pas le WPA (autant qu'il m'en souvienne). Étant à la campagne et n'observant aucune activité étrange sur mon réseau, cela me convient jusqu'à présent. -- David -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. -- pierre-marie desombre pierre-marie.desom...@wanadoo.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Passage à Ext4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 maderios a écrit : Je n'ai jamais attendu les noyaux dits officiellement stables par Debian pour faire fonctionner une machine qui me sert à travailler. Je fait la même pour mes stations de travail (que je suis seul à utiliser). Je ne le fais pas sur les serveurs que je gère. Le 2.6.32 est annoncé stable, je l'ai compilé et je le recompilerai certainement au fur et à mesure des améliorations. Pourquoi attendre ? Le risque est minime. Je n'ai pas besoin d'« amélioration » sur mes serveurs, en revanche j'ai besoin de stabilité pour tous les utilisateurs qui en dépendent. Un risque, même minime, est une raison suffisante pour ne pas procéder à une mise à jour, c'est ce que j'aime bien avec Debian Stable. Ça ne m'empêche pas de m'amuser avec Sid chez moi, essuyer les plâtres dans le migration, faire en sorte que les mises à jours se passent le mieux possible... Amicalement David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkscDhwACgkQ18/WetbTC/qEFQCeOO8EFVMUJMLyd74Z/muSDxds t4UAnRhC5oDiw7sz0yxvi46e3QNDGhkW =VO/j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Passage à Ext4
Thierry Leurent a écrit : Bonjour, Le passage à Ext4 est-il une bonne solution sur une machine de production utilisant un kernel 2.6.31 ? Merci Thierry Salut, j'ai quatre machines en ext4, une sous Ubuntu Karmic, trois sous Debian Squeeze, le tout en noyau 2.6.31 (ext4 sous Debian depuis 2.6.30, noyaux compilé maison depuis les sources vanilla), grub2, pas de /boot séparé, une machine en raid1. Les machines sont des stations d'acquisition/montage video, une est un portable bureautique-multimedia-détente. Toutes sont utilisés quotidiennement. Pas de problèmes en ext4, des gains de performances important sur les copie/effacement/création de gros et/ou nombreux fichiers. L'utilisation reste plus fluide lors d'opérations intensives en accès disque (les même machines, avec les mêmes disques étaient en ext3 relatime/writeback avant). Gain de temps très important lors d'un fsck au démarrage, sur des partitions entre 500 Go et 1.5 To ça fait une grosse différence, mais sur un serveur qui ne redémarre que rarement ça n'aurait pas beaucoup d'intérêt. Par contre les performances sont en baisse avec le noyau 2.6.32, testé sur une machine ce week-end. Ça montre que ext4 est encore en phase de maturation et n'est pas à l'abri de régressions importantes. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Passage à Ext4
maderios a écrit : ... Je n'ai jamais attendu les noyaux dits officiellement stables par Debian pour faire fonctionner une machine qui me sert à travailler. Le 2.6.32 est annoncé stable, je l'ai compilé et je le recompilerai certainement au fur et à mesure des améliorations. Pourquoi attendre ? Le risque est minime. Ben je serais toi, j'écouterai ce que David écrit :) Si certains kernels mettent dun temps pour apparaitre en tant que kernels de prod (package Debian), c'est qu'il-y-a des raisons simples dont la stabilité et l'absence de bugs bloquants. (et tu remarqueras que certains ne passent jamais la barre.) Comme il le dit: on peut tout à fait faire joujou avec de l'unstable et le dernier kernel (en fait, c'est un peu comme utiliser du w$), mais en aucun cas en production, parce qu'il n'y a pas que toi qui risque de planter: tu plantes aussi les autres, sans compter la mauvaise image que cela peut donner de Linux... Plus qu'ailleurs, le mieux est l'ennemi du bien (pluksè ksamarch bien, moink sèkyfô ytouché.) JY -- A newspaper is a circulating library with high blood pressure. -- Arthure Bugs Baer -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Passage à Ext4
Le Sunday 06 December 2009 19:30:06 Thierry Leurent, vous avez écrit : Bonjour, Le passage à Ext4 est-il une bonne solution sur une machine de production utilisant un kernel 2.6.31 ? Merci Thierry Avez-vous lu ça : http://www.tux-planet.fr/ext4-et-les-pertes-de-donnees/ ? -- christophe signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [testing] pb affichage fonte QT
Le Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:46:26 +0100 bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit: Selon Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr: Le Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:37:44 +0100 bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit: Selon Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr: Salut, Je suis sous testing en Gnome sur 2 PC et sur un des PC j'ai un problème d'affichage des fontes dans les applis QT. Manifestement je n'ai pas l'anti-aliasing alors que sur l'autre PC avec la même config je n'ai pas de soucis. Voir les 2 copies d'écrans jointes. pc1.jpg = NOK pc2.jpg = OK Une idée de la source du problème ? Gaëtan bonjour, pourrais tu voir : apt-cache search gtk2 qt Sur les 2 machines: gbgoffice - bgoffice dictionary frontend (GTK2) gtk2-engines-qtcurve - This is a set of widget styles for Gtk2 based apps kde-style-qtcurve - This is a set of widget styles for KDE3 based apps qtcurve - This is a set of widget styles for KDE3 and Gtk2 based apps pyjamas - Python web widget toolkit and Python-to-Javascript compiler scim - smart common input method platform Gaëtan bonjour, la prochaine fois prends le décapsuleur (ouvrir la bouteille) et une rondelle de citron ??? dans la liste des paquets : extra-xdg-menus C'est quoi le rapport avec la choucroute ? desktop-profiles N'est installé sur aucune des deux machines. configure-debian N'est installé sur aucune des deux machines. desktop-base Installé sur les 2 machines. autrement, je n'ai pas de solution C'était quoi ta solution ? Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Jaki laptop ?
Jakiego polecacie laptopa pod Debiana, Ubuntu ? Aktualnie posiadam Lenovo R61i z grafiką Nvidia Quadro Nvs 140M Moje wymagania co do lapka: - cichy, zero szumu z wiatraków podczas normalnej pracy z przeglądarką, pocztą, edytorem tekstu.. Witam, Ostatecznie zdecydowałem się na zakup Lenovo ThinkPad T500 (NJ28XPB) Używam Ubuntu 9.10, karta graficzna Ati. Podczas pracy - przeglądarka(w tle kilka stron z animacjami flash), klient poczty, wirtualna maszyna(stałe obciążenie procka 50-60%), muzyka(po smb) słychać jedynie lekki szum dysku twardego(oczywiście po wyciszeniu muzyki ;) ) Polecam dla wyczulonych na hałas ;) -- Tomasz Suchodolski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Jaki laptop ?
Sunday 06 of December 2009 22:08:53 Tomasz Suchodolski napisał(a): Jakiego polecacie laptopa pod Debiana, Ubuntu ? Aktualnie posiadam Lenovo R61i z grafiką Nvidia Quadro Nvs 140M Moje wymagania co do lapka: - cichy, zero szumu z wiatraków podczas normalnej pracy z przeglądarką, pocztą, edytorem tekstu.. Witam, Ostatecznie zdecydowałem się na zakup Lenovo ThinkPad T500 (NJ28XPB) Używam Ubuntu 9.10, karta graficzna Ati. Podczas pracy - przeglądarka(w tle kilka stron z animacjami flash), klient poczty, wirtualna maszyna(stałe obciążenie procka 50-60%), muzyka(po smb) słychać jedynie lekki szum dysku twardego(oczywiście po wyciszeniu muzyki ;) ) Polecam dla wyczulonych na hałas ;) Mogles sobie kupic z dyskiem SSD , a jako duzy hdd uzywac sobie np, zewnetrznej 1.8 albo 2.5, ew. duzego pendrive. -- Tomasz Suchodolski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Asignar siempre el mismo numero al montar.
El Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:57:28 +0100, lin lista escribió: Gracias por la información Camaleon, mirare y me informare un poco mas sobre hal/devicekit aunque imagino que el sda siempre sera el primer disco duro sata, aun no se si eso solo afecta a los usb o a todo, pero en plan de discos me parece mucho mas util que sda sea el 1º sata, sdb el 2º y asi, y en plan de usbs montarlos por uuid, si me parece bastante útil. Un saludo. Sí, a mí también me parece más cómoda la nomenclatura de sda/sdb/sdc... y me sorprendió -gratamente- que Lenny siguiera usando este formato :-) No sé qué estarán utilizando otras distros pero al menos en openSUSE llevan ya casi año y medio utilizando el montaje de dispositivos por ID de manera predeterminada para referenciar las unidades de disco duro ide/ sata/scsi/usb en el /etc/fstab o en /boot/grub/menu.lst. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mgetty + PPP
El vie, 04-12-2009 a las 19:59 -0500, Leonel Hernández Grandela escribió: El 04/12/2009 15:22, Yuniesky Machado escribió: Saludos Listeros Estoy configurando un server RAS con mgetty + ppp, entonces resulta que a la hora de conectarme desde un cliente me da error abiendo puerto Alguien le ha psado algo similar? Gracias de Antemano saludos yo una vez estuve haciendo la misma pregunta por aca en esta lista y no resolví nada .. :( de hecho si consigues un manual, lo implementas y todo t sale bien me lo podrías pasar !! saludos ;) en su momento, hace ya varios años y en otro trabajo, me bastó con esto para hacerlo funcionar: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/LuCaS/Manuales-LuCAS/GARL2/garl2/x7373.html#AEN7379 http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/LuCaS/Manuales-LuCAS/GARL2/garl2/x-087-2-serial.getty.html#X-087-2-SERIAL.GETTY.MGETTY aunque para tener una buena base teórica, tal vez mejor leer el capítulo completo en: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/LuCaS/Manuales-LuCAS/GARL2/garl2/x-087-2-ppp.html Por otra parte, ese manual es de 2000, no se cuanto habrá cambiando desde entonces pd: veo que son de cuba, me avisan si necesitan que lo descargue y les envíe al correo privado -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Audio de KDE entrecortado
El 4 de diciembre de 2009 19:17, Facundo A budin...@gmail.com escribió: On Viernes 04 Diciembre 2009 20:18:13 Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco escribió: El 29 de noviembre de 2009 16:10, Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco hald...@gmail.com escribió: El 29 de noviembre de 2009 16:04, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 29 de noviembre de 2009 17:48, Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco hald...@gmail.com escribió: El 27 de noviembre de 2009 16:19, Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco hald...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, he reinstalado usando el CD1 de kde de las construcciones semanales y el problema se ha reducido en un 50% pero todavía cuasa gliches en el audio. para cualquier aplicación. Puede que este diciendo una burrada, ya que jamas he trabajado con kde, pero porque no desinstalar todo lo relativo a pulse audio y dejar solo ALSA y probar. Suerte pulse is gone, se fue, finiquitó hace rato además en el cd1 con kde no viene pulse instalado. -- LARGA VIDA Y PODEROSA. Con respecto a pluseaudio yo no recuerdo haberlo desinstalado, en todo caso esto marcan las selecciones: hald...@anvil:~$ dpkg --get-selections|grep pulse libpulse-browse0deinstall libpulse-mainloop-glib0install libpulse0install pulseaudiodeinstall Por otra parte probé usando lxde y también empieza a saltar y cortarse el audio, pero ya un poco menos ya que no hay mucho de dode tirar recursos, aunque el Google Earth me ayudó. Pienso que podría ser un problema de la prioridad con la que se está ejecutando ALSA, aquí ya sabemos que pulse no está andando y que no es tema de kde, también he escuchado que con hda-intel hay varios problemas. Necesito una manito en esto chicos, les pongo mi lspci -v. 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio (rev a1) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360a Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20 Memory at c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Hola. Probá lo siguiente, lee el archivo /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD- Audio-Models.txt, fijate cual de los modelos coincide más con el de tu placa y cargá el módulo snd-hda-intel con el parámetro model=(modelo seleccionado). Yo, por ejemplo, tengo una MSI con el ALC883 on 8 canales y salida digital. El modelo que me carga por defecto no funcionaba bien (aunque tenía problemas diferentes al tuyo) y el modelo que mejor funcionó de los que probé fue el targa-8ch-dig. Por las dudas, para cargar el módulo con el parámetro seleccionado crea un fichero llamado snd-hda-intel.conf en el directorio /etc/modprobe.d con el siguiente contenido: options snd-hda-intel model=targa-8ch-dig Saludos Facundo Me pasé a sid por razónes distintas a este problema y ya no tengo el audio entrecortado bajo ninguna condición. -- LARGA VIDA Y PODEROSA.
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Re: Audio de KDE entrecortado
On Domingo 06 Diciembre 2009 19:05:39 Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco escribió: Me pasé a sid por razónes distintas a este problema y ya no tengo el audio entrecortado bajo ninguna condición. Perfecto. Seguramente era un problema de la versión de alsa entonces. Bueno, otro más en el mundo sid. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
mail sunucu kurulumu
Herkese merhaba Debian makineme mail sunucu kurmak istiyorum. hangi mailsunucuve arayüzü kurmamı önerirsiniz. iyi çalışmalar.
Re: mail sunucu kurulumu
12/07/2009 01:07 AM, Ayşe Dursun yazmış: Herkese merhaba Debian makineme mail sunucu kurmak istiyorum. hangi mailsunucuve arayüzü kurmamı önerirsiniz. iyi çalışmalar. Aşağıdaki belgeyi inceleyebilirsiniz:ttp://workaround.org/ispmail -- Rail Aliev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-turkish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Unable to install libncurses5-dev
Hi Veterans, I am trying to upgrade my debian kernel 1 First I downloaded gcc 2now I am trying to download libncurses5-dev death:/usr/src/linux-2.6.31.6# apt-get install libncurses5-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package libncurses5-dev so I downloaded it from http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/ncurses/ unzipeed it to /usr/src/linux-2.6.31.6 now when I am trying to use make menuconfig I am receiving following error death:/usr/src/linux-2.6.31.6# make menuconfig *** Unable to find the ncurses libraries or the *** required header files. *** 'make menuconfig' requires the ncurses libraries. *** *** Install ncurses (ncurses-devel) and try again. *** make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/dochecklxdialog] Error 1 make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2 Please help me to resolve this error and when I am trying to do the same in rhel5 I am able to use it Thanks and regards V M Ravindra Krishna e email...@gmail.com
Re: Will Debian accept a SATA to IDE hdd adapter?
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.cawrote: Agreed, in case you have a choice, go for the SATA controller. OTOH, I use one of those frankenstein adapters in a small box (wl700ge home router) where the SATA controller is not an option, and it works just great for that. Well, the Frankenstein adapters don't work. hdd isn't recognized by BIOS no matter what configuration I use, even when it's the only hdd in the computer and I use Master or Cable Select. Sad I bought 2 of them and neither works with the circa year 2000 HP desktop. I can't use the PCI adapter unless it also has SATA power as my mobo doesn't have SATA power and my drives don't have the standard 4-prong power adapter. Hmmm guess I'm stuck unless I'm missing something obvious. Mark
Re: Unable to install libncurses5-dev
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 01:18:23PM +0530, ravindra vejandla wrote: Hi Veterans, I am trying to upgrade my debian kernel 1 First I downloaded gcc aptitude install build-essential 2now I am trying to download libncurses5-dev It's now libncurses6-dev . But you could have tried libncurses-dev . -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
something happened to debian security repo?
i could not resolve http://security.debian.org/ (ping and aptitude update). Something happened to the repo or it is just my dns? -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my
Re: something happened to debian security repo?
ping security.debian.orgPING security.debian.org (149.20.20.6) 56(84) bytes of data.64 bytes from schein.debian.org (149.20.20.6): icmp_seq=1 ttl=41 time=249 ms^C64 bytes from schein.debian.org (149.20.20.6): icmp_seq=2 ttl=41 time=258 ms --- security.debian.org ping statistics ---2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001msrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 249.416/253.769/258.123/4.382 ms $ dig security.debian.org ; DiG 9.5.1-P2 security.debian.org;; global options: printcmd;; Got answer:;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48187;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION:;security.debian.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION:security.debian.org. 253 IN A 128.31.0.36security..debian.org.253 IN A 128.101.240.212security.debian.org. 253 IN A 149.20.20.6 ;; Query time: 98 msec;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8);; WHEN: Sun Dec 6 11:49:39 2009;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 85 --- On Sun, 12/6/09, Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote: From: Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com Subject: something happened to debian security repo? To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:32 AM i could not resolve http://security.debian.org/ (ping and aptitude update). Something happened to the repo or it is just my dns? -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my
Re: Unable to install libncurses5-dev
On 2009-12-06 11:16 +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 01:18:23PM +0530, ravindra vejandla wrote: 2now I am trying to download libncurses5-dev It's now libncurses6-dev . Nonsense, there is no libncurses6 in Debian. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: something happened to debian security repo?
2009/12/6 Tudod Ki tudodk...@yahoo.com ping security.debian.org PING security.debian.org (149.20.20.6) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from schein.debian.org (149.20.20.6): icmp_seq=1 ttl=41 time=249 ms ^C64 bytes from schein.debian.org (149.20.20.6): icmp_seq=2 ttl=41 time=258 ms --- security.debian.org ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 249.416/253.769/258.123/4.382 ms this is weird. I could produce same output with dig but could not ping security.debian.org $ dig security.debian.org ; DiG 9.5.1-P2 security.debian.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48187 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;security.debian..org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: security.debian.org. 253 IN A 128.31.0.36 security.debian.org. 253 IN A 128.101.240.212 security.debian.org. 253 IN A 149.20.20.6 ;; Query time: 98 msec ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) ;; WHEN: Sun Dec 6 11:49:39 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 85 --- On *Sun, 12/6/09, Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com Subject: something happened to debian security repo? To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:32 AM i could not resolve http://security.debian.org/ (ping and aptitude update). Something happened to the repo or it is just my dns? -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my
quota help
Is there a command to set quota on a partition, or I must write usrquota and grpquota to the proper line/row of fstab [to mount options]? Please Help. Debian Lenny
Re: Will Debian accept a SATA to IDE hdd adapter?
On Dec 6, 2009, at 2:44 AM, Mark wrote: Hmmm guess I'm stuck unless I'm missing something obvious. Very obvious, I think :-) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812104652 -- Glenn English g...@slsware.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Migrating to Grub2 deletes kernel automagic updates and other settings
Dne, 03. 12. 2009 20:15:40 je Chris Jones napisal(a):
What always bothers me with boot loaders is that they need a system
to
configure manage them. Now, in a multi-boot system, the next
question
is which one?
Actually, from this point of view, Grub2 is a step in the right
direction: as opposed to Grub Legacy, it has an os-prober script
which re-configures your boot menu, incorporating all the OSes on all
your partitions it can find. So, it's not the last installed system
that configures your boot menu as in Grub legacy, overriding any
previous boot loaders. In Grub2 *you* get to choose which of your
systems will configure your boot loader. Well, at least, that's the
idea ;)
On an unrelated note, for those who are struggling in vain to make
Grub2 boot graphics (splashimages) work: the update-grub script in
Lenny, for some reason or other, doesn't propagate the GRUB_GFXMODE
variable from /etc/default/grub. That's why using the ${GRUB_GFXMODE}
variable in /etc/grub.d/00_header simply won't work. You have to set
gfxmode literally, as in:
snip
set gfxmode=1400x1050
pins
The following (at least on my Lenny system) won't work:
snip
set gfxmode=${GRUB_GFXMODE}
pins
although you may have a perfectly defined GRUB_GFXMODE in /etc/default/
grub. In addition, not all jpeg images will work with Lenny's Grub2 (if
you have such a problematic jpg, just convert it to png and it should
work).
--
Regards,
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Re: Slow connections in Debian squeeze
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:38:53 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West and...@farwestbilliards.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 07:44:42PM -0500, Celejar wrote: ... II) Try a DNS cacher (dnsmasq) this is a bandaid solution, imo, and may not help anyway... We don't try solutions that may not help? Anyway, dnsmasq is probably something worth doing regardless - it saves time, bandwidth and server load (although perhaps not all that much of any). Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: something happened to debian security repo?
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:32:19 +0800 Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote: i could not resolve http://security.debian.org/ (ping and aptitude update). Something happened to the repo or it is just my dns? Working here. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: problem with locale (characters codeset etc...)
Hi, my guess is that your problem is in libncursesw5 . For compiling you need libncursesw5-dev on the system. HTH, --Jasper. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: something happened to debian security repo?
2009/12/6 Celejar cele...@gmail.com On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:32:19 +0800 Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote: i could not resolve http://security.debian.org/ (ping and aptitude update). Something happened to the repo or it is just my dns? Working here. it's definitely my ISP. I redialled the connection a few times and it is working now. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my
How to hibernate from the command line without typing password
I asked this question on this list a while back and although I did get a helpful response that would have led to a solution, it would not have led to the better solution that I recently discovered so I thought I'd post this in case it might be helpful to anyone else searching the list. I found the solution in this blog post: http://thehacklist.blogspot.com/2009/09/suspendhibernate-from-command-line.html the command in the post itself didn't work for me, but one given in the comments did. This works for me in Debian Lenny running the default Gnome desktop. You can send a signal via dbus asking for the computer to be hibernated with the following command: dbus-send --session --dest=org.freedesktop.PowerManagement --type=method_call /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerM anagement.Hibernate In the above blog post's comments you'll find a similar command to suspend the computer. I used this command to add a one-click hibernate button to my Gnome panel (as a custom application launcher). Normally you can't hibernate without multiple clicks in Gnome, and it always asks you whether you want to suspend, hibernate, restart or shutdown, of which shutdown seems to always be the default. I just kept choosing shutdown and then cursing because what I always want is to hibernate. If hibernate works for you, why would you ever want to shutdown? Hibernate seems to me to be what computers should always do, as they start up much faster and all your context is preserved. I also saved the command as an executable script called 'hibernate' so that I can hibernate from the command line by just typing hibernate. Works for me! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Slow connections in Debian squeeze
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 09:01:51AM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:38:53 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West and...@farwestbilliards.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 07:44:42PM -0500, Celejar wrote: ... II) Try a DNS cacher (dnsmasq) this is a bandaid solution, imo, and may not help anyway... We don't try solutions that may not help? yeah, that came out wrong... sorry. But thinking about it, it doesn't seem a solution to me because it merely hides the problem under the cache. But I will look into using it as a temporary solution. meanwhile, some tests using time wget http://www.google.com on a lenny machine typically looks like: --2009-12-06 09:47:44-- http://www.google.com/ Resolving www.google.com... 72.14.213.99, 72.14.213.103, 72.14.213.104, ... Connecting to www.google.com|72.14.213.99|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: `index.html.14' [ = ] 5,628 --.-K/s in 0.06s 2009-12-06 09:47:44 (88.4 KB/s) - `index.html.14' saved [5628] real 0m0.279s user 0m0.000s sys 0m0.004s very consistently. on the problem machine, this is typical: --2009-12-06 09:36:55-- http://www.google.com/ Resolving www.google.com... 72.14.213.103, 72.14.213.104, 72.14.213.105, ... Connecting to www.google.com|72.14.213.103|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: “index.html.5” [ = ] 5,628 --.-K/s in 0.06s 2009-12-06 09:37:00 (88.1 KB/s) - “index.html.5” saved [5628] real0m5.280s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.004s the pause is at the Resolving www.google.com... line for 5 seconds, very consistently. interestingly this doesn't happen with ping... and nsloopup www.google.com works just fine as well with something like 0.05s real time. I also see the delay with w3m, which points to the problem being in some common http library? Anyway, the delay is consistent at around 5 seconds. When I get more time, I'll see if I can learn more. Anyway, dnsmasq is probably something worth doing regardless - it saves time, bandwidth and server load (although perhaps not all that much of any). yeah. I used to run it. I don't know why I stopped. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[SOLVED]Re: Problems with adobe-flashplugin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:44:47 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West and...@farwestbilliards.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 11:59:03AM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: I am having problems fixing the adobe-flashplugin package and [...] This is what happens when I try to dist-upgrade now: squeeze:/home/frank# aptitude dist-upgrade [...] The following packages will be upgraded: libmysqlclient16 mysql-common The following partially installed packages will be configured: adobe-flashplugin 2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 49.2kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] E: I wasn't able to locate file for the adobe-flashplugin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. Writing extended state information... Done E: I wasn't able to locate file for the adobe-flashplugin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. E: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download I would start with aptitude reinstall adobe-flashplugin look in /var/cache/apt/archives for the deb file. if it's missing, maybe try manually downloading it, although I would think it would download it automatically... hrmm... and if that didn't work, I'd move to purging it altogether. right. so I wonder if you removed a file that adobe-flashplugin was expecting to find? Even dpkg-reconfigure does nothing except complain that iceape is missing ( I never had it on this system) wierd. I am at wits endabout to wipe the partition I don't think you're there yet... that's a pretty drastic measure. Well I reconsidered:) I googled until I found what I was looking for exactly where apt keeps the info on package state...strangely enough it's in a file called status :) I hesitate to reveal this but what I did was open the file, removed the adobe-flashplayer info..and resaved. Problem gone...aptitude is now happy and will do whatever I ask (except make the coffee). I know this is what would be considered brute force...but in my case it worked. I DO NOT recommend it to anyone for any reasonbut if it works...it works. It doesn't **seem** to have any side effects. - -- Frank -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLG/oWAAoJEMEDyLTvrVhjsRAH/iGEBuJ0lKg7xQ+ujxnVkotM ewI1/eX4B9drpPZlZ7ycYk6AqoGGbclwuvrBfzOZ35EOxSxKvaZwfdom9lmZfpTX fTNXJt/SioPDfcfNZT/BZV4TAX4HQVAw8NIHIEOgT9N71B3449/+tBbzghROIvsk qrcDoqDh0kGRwq50b7dttxo04vJtDiTLi4muHY+Sb3kNfHd5UzgwB5XFKCaGkKtq z77BJE9F2hcHH0vkm6b9IZHfjlJSlQ2kgvx/aXSq9Mox7ppbxQnv1Mp2MGmTPUE7 KF+mO84oEddLiGz7LfHLs/68eagkbvlZ9f97HdlHtb8AKYY4am97w8mpp08JIf4= =+Pux -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Slow connections in Debian squeeze
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I tried the same test with wget'ing Google, these are the results: $ wget google.com - --2009-12-06 19:05:45-- http://google.com/ Resolving google.com... 74.125.67.100, 74.125.45.100, 74.125.53.100 Connecting to google.com|74.125.67.100|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently Location: http://www.google.com/ [following] - --2009-12-06 19:05:51-- http://www.google.com/ Resolving www.google.com... 74.125.79.147, 74.125.79.99, 74.125.79.104 Connecting to www.google.com|74.125.79.147|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: http://www.google.nl/ [following] - --2009-12-06 19:05:56-- http://www.google.nl/ Resolving www.google.nl... 74.125.79.147, 74.125.79.99, 74.125.79.104 Reusing existing connection to www.google.com:80. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: “index.html” [ = ] 6,066 - --.-K/s in 0.003s 2009-12-06 19:06:01 (1.76 MB/s) - “index.html” saved [6066] real0m15.394s user0m0.004s sys 0m0.000s - --- 1 wget command which resulted in two redirects, 15 seconds. - --- $ time wget http://www.google.com - --2009-12-06 19:07:44-- http://www.google.com/ Resolving www.google.com... 74.125.79.147, 74.125.79.99, 74.125.79.104 Connecting to www.google.com|74.125.79.147|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: http://www.google.nl/ [following] - --2009-12-06 19:07:49-- http://www.google.nl/ Resolving www.google.nl... 74.125.79.147, 74.125.79.99, 74.125.79.104 Reusing existing connection to www.google.com:80. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: “index.html.1” [ = ] 6,066 - --.-K/s in 0.004s 2009-12-06 19:07:54 (1.46 MB/s) - “index.html.1” saved [6066] real0m10.100s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.004s - --- 1 wget command which resulted in one redirect, 10 seconds. - --- $ time wget http://www.google.nl - --2009-12-06 19:08:00-- http://www.google.nl/ Resolving www.google.nl... 74.125.79.99, 74.125.79.104, 74.125.79.147 Connecting to www.google.nl|74.125.79.99|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: “index.html.2” [ = ] 6,078 - --.-K/s in 0.01s 2009-12-06 19:08:05 (484 KB/s) - “index.html.2” saved [6078] real0m5.067s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.004s - --- 1 wget command without a redirect, 5 seconds. - --- These results seem just as consistent as those from Andrew. 3 connections = 15 sec 2 connections = 10 sec 1 connection = 5 sec -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksb+eEACgkQkPq5zKsAFigEVgCfTon/v1SQVQ3sc7NDCvz97Rhd cSQAnR/DWpj6xW74Sj+OTbabA1mJMSN8 =M+EY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to hibernate from the command line without typing password
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 14:57:21 + chombee chom...@lavabit.com wrote: ... Gnome desktop. You can send a signal via dbus asking for the computer to be hibernated with the following command: dbus-send --session --dest=org.freedesktop.PowerManagement --type=method_call /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerM anagement.Hibernate ... I also saved the command as an executable script called 'hibernate' so that I can hibernate from the command line by just typing hibernate. I don't recall the earlier thread, but what's wrong with the 'hibernate' command from the 'acpi-support' package, or 's2disk' from the 'usswsusp' package? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Will Debian accept a SATA to IDE hdd adapter?
Mark put forth on 12/6/2009 3:44 AM: Hmmm guess I'm stuck unless I'm missing something obvious. You are. Hundreds of choices for SATA power adapters: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEDEPA=0Order=BESTMATCHDescription=SATA+powerx=0y=0 -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Slow connections in Debian squeeze
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:58:12 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West and...@farwestbilliards.com wrote: ... meanwhile, some tests using time wget http://www.google.com ... real 0m0.279s user 0m0.000s sys0m0.004s very consistently. on the problem machine, this is typical: ... real0m5.280s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.004s the pause is at the Resolving www.google.com... line for 5 seconds, very consistently. interestingly this doesn't happen with ping... and nsloopup www.google.com works just fine as well with something like 0.05s real time. I also see the delay with w3m, which points to the problem being in some common http library? Anyway, the delay is consistent at around 5 seconds. Try some other protocols? An ever better idea: use netcat or telnet to talk to google.com on port 80 - same server and port, but no client side HTTP stuff, just plain text going out over the wire. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Customizing keyboard shortcuts in Iceweasel
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 16:16, Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote: Mozilla claims that it can't be done: Configuring keyboard shortcuts Firefox does not provide any method of customizing keyboard shortcuts. Is this for real (and up-to-date)?! A serious, sophisticated GUI application that doesn't allow this sort of customization?! yep, the keyboard shortcut code hasn't been seriously overhauled since the Mozilla 1.x days (pre-Firefox). The have talked about reworking it at some point, but so far other things have taken priority. I suppose that I could file a wishlist bug, but if upstream already acknowledges the deficiency, is there any point? I think there is a bug, if you have a bugzilla account you can vote for it, but I doubt it will make much of a difference. What I want to do is to bind keystroke combinations to bookmarks, so that I can open sites easily with such combos. Is there a way to do this? I don't know about binding keystrokes to a bookmark, but you can use keywords. Open the properties of a bookmarked item and enter the characters you want to use in the keyword field. Now if you type those characters in the url bar, you will go to that bookmark. If you combine that with a %s instead of a search term in a url, and then keyword searchterm (no quotes) in the url bar will perform that search. For example I have an imdb keyword, so if I type imdb casablanca, it searches imdb for casablanca. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Customizing keyboard shortcuts in Iceweasel
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:24:10 -0800 Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 16:16, Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote: Mozilla claims that it can't be done: Configuring keyboard shortcuts Firefox does not provide any method of customizing keyboard shortcuts. Is this for real (and up-to-date)?! A serious, sophisticated GUI application that doesn't allow this sort of customization?! yep, the keyboard shortcut code hasn't been seriously overhauled since the Mozilla 1.x days (pre-Firefox). The have talked about reworking it at some point, but so far other things have taken priority. I suppose that I could file a wishlist bug, but if upstream already acknowledges the deficiency, is there any point? I think there is a bug, if you have a bugzilla account you can vote for it, but I doubt it will make much of a difference. Thanks for the info. What I want to do is to bind keystroke combinations to bookmarks, so that I can open sites easily with such combos. Is there a way to do this? I don't know about binding keystrokes to a bookmark, but you can use keywords. Open the properties of a bookmarked item and enter the characters you want to use in the keyword field. Now if you type those characters in the url bar, you will go to that bookmark. Thanks, that'll be useful, but I anyway pretty much get that behavior by just typing the first few characters into the location bar. With keywords, I suppose that I can make that more efficient, although it's annoying that it'll still require at least four keystrokes: CTRL-L to set the focus to the location bar, a single character keyword such as 'k', and ENTER. If you combine that with a %s instead of a search term in a url, and then keyword searchterm (no quotes) in the url bar will perform that search. For example I have an imdb keyword, so if I type imdb casablanca, it searches imdb for casablanca. I've heard of this before, but never paid much attention to. I really need to start doing this for things like searching for bugs in package 'foo', and so on. /me sets up a bookmark with url=http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=%s and keyword=db Hey! It works! Thanks! Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Running fsck automatically on boot
Hi! I have Debian Unstable and sometimes there are some (typical) errors in my partitions: /dev/sda7: Superblock last mount time is in the future /dev/sda7: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY and I was wondering if there is a way to let fsck to run automatically in these cases. I have no problem with this (although it's kind of annoying :P) but my sister has no computer knowledge so it's hard for her to check her partitions :S Thank you in advance! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Running-fsck-automatically-on-boot-tp26668778p26668778.html Sent from the Debian User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [SOLVED]Re: Problems with adobe-flashplugin
Frank McCormick: Andrew Sackville-West: Frank McCormick: I am at wits endabout to wipe the partition I don't think you're there yet... that's a pretty drastic measure. Well I reconsidered:) I googled until I found what I was looking for exactly where apt keeps the info on package state...strangely enough it's in a file called status :) I hesitate to reveal this but what I did was open the file, removed the adobe-flashplayer info..and resaved. Problem gone...aptitude is now happy and will do whatever I ask (except make the coffee). I know this is what would be considered brute force...but in my case it worked. I DO NOT recommend it to anyone for any reasonbut if it works...it works. It doesn't **seem** to have any side effects. Anyway, I can confirm that it worked here, having had the same problem with package python-apt problem gone! :-) BTW, a new entry for python-apt appears to have been entered in /var/lib/dpkg/status; it looks OK. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:37:08 -0800 (PST) Sergio Padrino sergio.padr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I have Debian Unstable and sometimes there are some (typical) errors in my partitions: /dev/sda7: Superblock last mount time is in the future /dev/sda7: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY and I was wondering if there is a way to let fsck to run automatically in these cases. I have no problem with this (although it's kind of annoying :P) but my sister has no computer knowledge so it's hard for her to check her partitions :S I don't know very much about this sort of thing, but I imagine that it would be difficult to arrange, since fsck needs to be run on an unmounted filesystem. I suggest that you go after the cause of the problem, not the symptom. Do you know why you're getting future times? The only time I've had this issue was when my hardware clock was getting altered (due to some hack that stored data in the RTC nvram, as part of a debugging procedure for suspend, IIRC). Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6-12-2009 21:37, Sergio Padrino wrote: Hi! I have Debian Unstable and sometimes there are some (typical) errors in my partitions: /dev/sda7: Superblock last mount time is in the future /dev/sda7: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY and I was wondering if there is a way to let fsck to run automatically in these cases. I have no problem with this (although it's kind of annoying :P) but my sister has no computer knowledge so it's hard for her to check her partitions :S Thank you in advance! You can use the sixth field in /etc/fstab. Give the partition a non-zero value, and it will be (periodically) checked during boot. See `man fstab` for more information. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkscGWcACgkQkPq5zKsAFijVuQCeP+2WMmaUODnUfOZERNk9/VnA dgYAn3WcXx1Ue1/mo3qnlJcIftovswyH =nUnm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
Nick Douma wrote: You can use the sixth field in /etc/fstab. Give the partition a non-zero value, and it will be (periodically) checked during boot. See `man fstab` for more information. I knew that field, but it increases the number of unnecessary checks and it doesn't avoid to my problem, as it appears randomly, as it doesn't matter whether on the last boot a fsck was run if something happens during my normal activity using my computer and in the next reboot a new fsck is needed. celejar wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:37:08 -0800 (PST) Sergio Padrino sergio.padr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know very much about this sort of thing, but I imagine that it would be difficult to arrange, since fsck needs to be run on an unmounted filesystem. I suggest that you go after the cause of the problem, not the symptom. Do you know why you're getting future times? The only time I've had this issue was when my hardware clock was getting altered (due to some hack that stored data in the RTC nvram, as part of a debugging procedure for suspend, IIRC). I don't know what is causing that :S It happens randomly :-\ My sister and I use totally different applications so... I really don't know where is the problem T_T Thank you! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Running-fsck-automatically-on-boot-tp26668778p26669428.html Sent from the Debian User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 13:46:13 -0800 (PST) Sergio Padrino sergio.padr...@gmail.com wrote: ... celejar wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:37:08 -0800 (PST) Sergio Padrino sergio.padr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know very much about this sort of thing, but I imagine that it would be difficult to arrange, since fsck needs to be run on an unmounted filesystem. I suggest that you go after the cause of the problem, not the symptom. Do you know why you're getting future times? The only time I've had this issue was when my hardware clock was getting altered (due to some hack that stored data in the RTC nvram, as part of a debugging procedure for suspend, IIRC). I don't know what is causing that :S It happens randomly :-\ My sister and I use totally different applications so... I really don't know where is the problem T_T Do you keep an eye on your system's time? You might try doing periodic checks to see if it's right. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
celejar wrote: Do you keep an eye on your system's time? You might try doing periodic checks to see if it's right. I'm sorry, I didn't mention it specifically, but I tried those periodic checks and didn't work :S About my system's time... it's always fine :-\ But it's weird because, for example, if I boot my PC on 7 Dec 2009 at 16:31:55, the error I get is that the superblock has this date: 7 Dec 2009 17:31:27 It's just an example, but the thing is that the superblock always contains a time that is 1 hour after the current time. It may be something related to update some packages? Anyway, the reason of me looking for a way to run it automatically is that other distributions (like ArchLinux) can do it, so I suppose that it's not impossible :P -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Running-fsck-automatically-on-boot-tp26668778p26669543.html Sent from the Debian User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6-12-2009 22:48, Celejar wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 13:46:13 -0800 (PST) Sergio Padrino sergio.padr...@gmail.com wrote: ... celejar wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:37:08 -0800 (PST) Sergio Padrino sergio.padr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know very much about this sort of thing, but I imagine that it would be difficult to arrange, since fsck needs to be run on an unmounted filesystem. I suggest that you go after the cause of the problem, not the symptom. Do you know why you're getting future times? The only time I've had this issue was when my hardware clock was getting altered (due to some hack that stored data in the RTC nvram, as part of a debugging procedure for suspend, IIRC). I don't know what is causing that :S It happens randomly :-\ My sister and I use totally different applications so... I really don't know where is the problem T_T Do you keep an eye on your system's time? You might try doing periodic checks to see if it's right. Celejar Either that, or start using NTP, which is a good practice in itself. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkscKF4ACgkQkPq5zKsAFigmdgCfVClBp6XzcEKbu3lYx3WtBWv3 yXwAn3AHbV5/06IxBkDndrR7ohlgyduL =NQkA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 14:02:46 -0800 (PST) Sergio Padrino sergio.padr...@gmail.com wrote: ... About my system's time... it's always fine :-\ But it's weird because, for example, if I boot my PC on 7 Dec 2009 at 16:31:55, the error I get is that the superblock has this date: 7 Dec 2009 17:31:27 It's just an example, but the thing is that the superblock always contains a time that is 1 hour after the current time. It may be something related to update some packages? Some kind of locale / DST issue? Anyway, the reason of me looking for a way to run it automatically is that other distributions (like ArchLinux) can do it, so I suppose that it's not impossible :P They do what, exactly? Automatically run fsck on a running system? Run it at boot if errors are found? Perhaps ask in the support forums of such a distro, or check its documentation. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
Dne, 06. 12. 2009 23:02:46 je Sergio Padrino napisal(a): It's just an example, but the thing is that the superblock always contains a time that is 1 hour after the current time. It may be something related to update some packages? I'd suggest checking your clock applet in your Gnome panel (if you're using Gnome; other Desktop Environments have similar applets too). The symptom you're describing could indicate that you have UTC enabled, whereas your sister doesn't -- or vice versa. Or perhaps you both have UTC enabled on the user-level, while it's not enabled on system-level (or vice versa again). -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [SOLVED]Re: Problems with adobe-flashplugin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:58:36 +0100 Sjoerd Hiemstra shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote: Frank McCormick: Andrew Sackville-West: Frank McCormick: I am at wits endabout to wipe the partition state...strangely enough it's in a file called status :) I hesitate to reveal this but what I did was open the file, removed the adobe-flashplayer info..and resaved. Problem gone...aptitude is now happy and will do whatever I ask (except make the coffee). I know this is what would be considered brute force...but in my case it worked. I DO NOT recommend it to anyone Anyway, I can confirm that it worked here, having had the same problem with package python-apt problem gone! :-) BTW, a new entry for python-apt appears to have been entered in /var/lib/dpkg/status; it looks OK. It's the first time I've had to do anything this drastic with Debian but it seemed the only way of getting back on track. Glad it worked for you as well. Hope our machines don't blow up :) - -- Frank -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLHC+sAAoJEMEDyLTvrVhjKigIAJp3o+ntU1t6CE6qaEhhvBWz 1SBZaqJ0BLL7X36sFjXTTG0+v+nEfroyr65Qvau6EAoAYyyjj3si6KXbUdu3jpQv jwyF7JQBCQ7JaIE9uxcGm4AzLpPTT/HmKVuRQfocmhajvcbpWtAi7HI4xEYglWoZ 8qPYT+5QyC1bsU2j8bgN42aXZOYuWZFn42yiqBMmo2oTbgAET7FKN9E/JUicMciC eHm4a3B8UV7yYVNhw92gkIOVIO8ir3nq7ICgLYXgNVGHsDTyS/Mqq2KvEa5q/dJK PrAqFoEa4FXoFQo32jikL0LhFz4/nleYY4lTHQ0Jd69SX6rWlcwCJTDfWnzfXpE= =Z+bf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
Sergio Padrino wrote: About my system's time... it's always fine :-\ But it's weird because, for example, if I boot my PC on 7 Dec 2009 at 16:31:55, the error I get is that the superblock has this date: 7 Dec 2009 17:31:27 I don't suppose this machine dual-boots Windows does it? I had a problem way back when I first set up Debian on a dual-boot machine where Windows was storing the local time to the BIOS, (in the UK during Summer, hence GMT+1) - while Linux was expecting it to be GMT. (Or it might have been the other way around ... it was a long time ago) Either way it should be obvious if this is the problem - the time will go screwy whenever the machine was previously booted into Windows, and not otherwise. You could try checking the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS - it should be 'yes', but it might be worth setting it to 'no' and see if this fixes the problem (if it does, it would be better to fix the problem on the Windows side and set it back to UTC=yes - but I have no idea how to do this!) Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
Anyway, the reason of me looking for a way to run it automatically is that other distributions (like ArchLinux) can do it, so I suppose that it's not impossible :P They do what, exactly? Automatically run fsck on a running system? Run it at boot if errors are found? Perhaps ask in the support forums of such a distro, or check its documentation. A script to fsck / could be added to the initrd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Customizing keyboard shortcuts in Iceweasel
On Sun,06.Dec.09, 15:07:34, Celejar wrote: /me sets up a bookmark with url=http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=%s and keyword=db Hey! It works! Thanks! Great stuff, but I did it like this url=http://bugs.debian.org/%s because it will work with packages AND bug numbers ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Customizing keyboard shortcuts in Iceweasel
On Sat,05.Dec.09, 19:16:53, Celejar wrote: What I want to do is to bind keystroke combinations to bookmarks, so that I can open sites easily with such combos. Is there a way to do this? Not really a solution, but maybe an alternative. If you are somewhat familiar with vim keystrokes you might like the vimperator extension. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
usb keyboard support?
Dear all How smooth should Debian testing react to a USB keyboard? Should I expect it to work out of the box? Are there recommended models? (I managed to find only out-dated compatibility lists.) Please let me know your thoughts. Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: problem with locale (characters codeset etc...)
Jasper wrote: Hi, my guess is that your problem is in libncursesw5 . For compiling you need libncursesw5-dev on the system. HTH, --Jasper. Thanks a lot for your reply. Indeed, the lack of 'libncursesw5' was the problem. I installed it, then recompiled Lifelines-3.0.62, and everything started to behave normally after this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Slow connections in Debian squeeze
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 02:15:55PM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:58:12 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West and...@farwestbilliards.com wrote: ... meanwhile, some tests using time wget http://www.google.com ... real 0m0.279s user 0m0.000s sys 0m0.004s very consistently. on the problem machine, this is typical: ... real0m5.280s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.004s the pause is at the Resolving www.google.com... line for 5 seconds, very consistently. interestingly this doesn't happen with ping... and nsloopup www.google.com works just fine as well with something like 0.05s real time. I also see the delay with w3m, which points to the problem being in some common http library? Anyway, the delay is consistent at around 5 seconds. Try some other protocols? An ever better idea: use netcat or telnet to talk to google.com on port 80 - same server and port, but no client side HTTP stuff, just plain text going out over the wire. yup, same thing. on the squeeze machine telnet on several ports by name has a five second overhead. telnet by ip address is instantaneous. one a lenny machine, instaneous either way. I did a little digging with tcpdump and some rough timing. Here are typical results on my squeeze machine: and...@basement:~$ date +%T.%N; telnet www.google.com 80 /dev/null; date +%T.%N 15:33:19.209029221 Trying 72.14.213.105... Connected to www.l.google.com. Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. 15:33:24.359495441 note the five second lag... relevant tcpdump output (autofill off on purpose to preserve line structure): 15:33:19.211425 IP basement.36071 cache1.cet.com.domain: 19713+ A? www.google.com. (32) 15:33:19.211440 IP basement.36071 cache1.cet.com.domain: 21948+ ? www.google.com. (32) 15:33:19.254337 IP cache1.cet.com.domain basement.36071: 19713 7/4/4 CNAME[|domain] 15:33:24.216053 IP basement.36071 cache1.cet.com.domain: 19713+ A? www.google.com. (32) 15:33:24.258872 IP cache1.cet.com.domain basement.36071: 19713 7/4/4 CNAME[|domain] 15:33:24.258902 IP basement.36071 cache1.cet.com.domain: 21948+ ? www.google.com. (32) 15:33:24.302859 IP cache1.cet.com.domain basement.36071: 21948 1/1/0 CNAME[|domain] 15:33:24.303090 IP basement.57375 pv-in-f105.1e100.net.www: Flags [S], seq 3169135473, win 5840, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 755934554 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0 now I don't really know much about this stuff, but I see that as a DNS exchange with cache1.cet.com which is the name server at 15:33:19.21+... with a quick response and then nothing from my side until 15:33:24.21+ when the request is repeated and then proceeds. compare to the lenny machine: mu...@swfamily:~$ date +%T.%N; telnet www.google.com 80 /dev/null ; date +%T.%N 15:33:47.058383705 Trying 72.14.213.106... Connected to www.l.google.com. Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. 15:33:47.220861942 15:33:47.061831 IP swfamily.37796 cache1.cet.com.domain: 10212+ ? www.google.com. (32) 15:33:47.061966 IP swfamily.35621 cache1.cet.com.domain: 46999+ PTR? 5.224.63.206.in-addr.arpa. (43) 15:33:47.103229 IP cache1.cet.com.domain swfamily.37796: 10212 1/1/0 CNAME www.l.google.com. (102) 15:33:47.103383 IP swfamily.51262 cache1.cet.com.domain: 65335+ A? www.google.com. (32) 15:33:47.111645 IP cache1.cet.com.domain swfamily.35621: 46999 1/2/2 (139) 15:33:47.148277 IP cache1.cet.com.domain swfamily.51262: 65335 7/4/4 CNAME www.l.google.com.,[|domain] 15:33:47.165497 IP swfamily.37594 pv-in-f106.1e100.net.www: S 81126028:81126028(0) win 5840 mss 1460,sackOK,timestamp 222186757 0,nop,wscale 5 there are clearly some differences. the lenny machine is making a ? request (whatever that means) while the squeeze machine is making both a A? and ? requests. And the responses are different. This behavior is consistent across attempts. I'm stumped, frankly. It's out of my depth. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Slow connections in Debian squeeze
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 07:37:23PM +0100, Nick Douma wrote: I tried the same test with wget'ing Google, these are the results: $ wget google.com [...] These results seem just as consistent as those from Andrew. 3 connections = 15 sec 2 connections = 10 sec 1 connection = 5 sec wow. that's amazing. See my tcpdump results on the other thread. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Customizing keyboard shortcuts in Iceweasel
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 01:37:44AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,06.Dec.09, 15:07:34, Celejar wrote: /me sets up a bookmark with url=http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=%s and keyword=db Hey! It works! Thanks! Great stuff, but I did it like this url=http://bugs.debian.org/%s because it will work with packages AND bug numbers ;) woah... cool! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Slow connections in Debian squeeze
On Sun,06.Dec.09, 15:39:59, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: there are clearly some differences. the lenny machine is making a ? request (whatever that means) while the squeeze machine is making both a A? and ? requests. And the responses are different. This behavior is consistent across attempts. This sounds like an ipv4/ipv6 issue. Maybe this NEWS.Debian entry for libc6 has the solution: glibc (2.9-8) unstable; urgency=low Starting with version 2.9-8, unified IPv4/IPv6 lookup have been enabled in the glibc's resolver. This is faster, fixes numerous of bugs, but is problematic on some broken DNS servers and/or wrongly configured firewalls. If such a DNS server is detected, the resolver switches (permanently for that process) to a mode where the second request is sent only when the first answer has been received. This means the first request will be timeout, but subsequent requests should be fast again. This behaviour can be enabled permanently by adding 'options single-request' to /etc/resolv.conf. -- Aurelien Jarno aure...@debian.org Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:14:32 +0200 Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: usb keyboard support?
On Sun,06.Dec.09, 23:40:36, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear all How smooth should Debian testing react to a USB keyboard? Should I expect it to work out of the box? Are there recommended models? (I managed to find only out-dated compatibility lists.) The basic function(s) should Just Work (tm), but special (multimedia) keys or other stuff which need proprietary drivers under Windows might not work. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [SOLVED]Re: Problems with adobe-flashplugin
Frank McCormick: Sjoerd Hiemstra: Frank McCormick: [...] state...strangely enough it's in a file called status :) I hesitate to reveal this but what I did was open the file, removed the adobe-flashplayer info..and resaved. Problem gone...aptitude is now happy and will do whatever I ask (except make the coffee). I know this is what would be considered brute force...but in my case it worked. I DO NOT recommend it to anyone Anyway, I can confirm that it worked here, having had the same problem with package python-apt problem gone! :-) BTW, a new entry for python-apt appears to have been entered in /var/lib/dpkg/status; it looks OK. It's the first time I've had to do anything this drastic with Debian but it seemed the only way of getting back on track. Glad it worked for you as well. Hope our machines don't blow up :) Previously, the entry in /var/lib/dpkg/status for the package in question had this line: Status: install reinstreq half-configured In the new entry, this line has changed to: Status: install ok installed And that's the only essential difference between the old the new entry. It looks like aptitude is not able, at the moment, to recover a package from that 'half-configured' state. I guess the problem was caused by some accidental hitch during upgrading. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: usb keyboard support?
On Dec 6, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: How smooth should Debian testing react to a USB keyboard? Should I expect it to work out of the box? Are there recommended models? Can't speak for the current testing, but I've been running lenny since it was testing. It never even occurred to me to ask this question -- I just plugged one in one day, and it worked perfectly. Rash assumption on my part, perhaps. My lenny boxen have all seen Cherrys, Dells, and Apples. Cherry is by far the best. Apple is by far the shiniest :-) -- Glenn English g...@slsware.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: usb keyboard support?
On Dec 6, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,06.Dec.09, 23:40:36, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear all How smooth should Debian testing react to a USB keyboard? Should I expect it to work out of the box? Are there recommended models? (I managed to find only out-dated compatibility lists.) The basic function(s) should Just Work (tm), but special (multimedia) keys or other stuff which need proprietary drivers under Windows might not work. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic -- Glenn English g...@slsware.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Slow connections in Debian squeeze
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 01:56:06AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,06.Dec.09, 15:39:59, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: there are clearly some differences. the lenny machine is making a ? request (whatever that means) while the squeeze machine is making both a A? and ? requests. And the responses are different. This behavior is consistent across attempts. This sounds like an ipv4/ipv6 issue. Maybe this NEWS.Debian entry for libc6 has the solution: glibc (2.9-8) unstable; urgency=low Starting with version 2.9-8, unified IPv4/IPv6 lookup have been enabled in the glibc's resolver. This is faster, fixes numerous of bugs, but is problematic on some broken DNS servers and/or wrongly configured firewalls. If such a DNS server is detected, the resolver switches (permanently for that process) to a mode where the second request is sent only when the first answer has been received. This means the first request will be timeout, but subsequent requests should be fast again. This behaviour can be enabled permanently by adding 'options single-request' to /etc/resolv.conf. Andrei, I owe you a beer! That's done it right there. Now it's just a matter of figuring out whether it's my firewall or my dns server that's broken... :) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: usb keyboard support?
On Dec 6, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: special (multimedia) keys or other stuff which need proprietary drivers under Windows might not work. Andrei makes a good point. When I said perfectly I meant perfectly for email and editing daemon configs... -- Glenn English g...@slsware.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Re: [OT] Customizing keyboard shortcuts in Iceweasel
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 01:37:44 +0200 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun,06.Dec.09, 15:07:34, Celejar wrote: /me sets up a bookmark with url=http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=%s and keyword=db Hey! It works! Thanks! Great stuff, but I did it like this url=http://bugs.debian.org/%s because it will work with packages AND bug numbers ;) Right you are. I think that I tried that, did something wrong, and then somehow got it into my head that %s only worked in the query part of url, after the '?'. Glad we've cleared that up ;) Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Slow connections in Debian squeeze
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 04:08:11PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 01:56:06AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,06.Dec.09, 15:39:59, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: there are clearly some differences. the lenny machine is making a ? request (whatever that means) while the squeeze machine is making both a A? and ? requests. And the responses are different. This behavior is consistent across attempts. This sounds like an ipv4/ipv6 issue. Maybe this NEWS.Debian entry for libc6 has the solution: glibc (2.9-8) unstable; urgency=low Starting with version 2.9-8, unified IPv4/IPv6 lookup have been enabled in the glibc's resolver. This is faster, fixes numerous of bugs, but is problematic on some broken DNS servers and/or wrongly configured firewalls. If such a DNS server is detected, the resolver switches (permanently for that process) to a mode where the second request is sent only when the first answer has been received. This means the first request will be timeout, but subsequent requests should be fast again. This behaviour can be enabled permanently by adding 'options single-request' to /etc/resolv.conf. Andrei, I owe you a beer! That's done it right there. Now it's just a matter of figuring out whether it's my firewall or my dns server that's broken... :) blech... it's my firewall, or several public dns servers are broken... A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Customizing keyboard shortcuts in Iceweasel
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 01:39:28 +0200 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat,05.Dec.09, 19:16:53, Celejar wrote: What I want to do is to bind keystroke combinations to bookmarks, so that I can open sites easily with such combos. Is there a way to do this? Not really a solution, but maybe an alternative. If you are somewhat familiar with vim keystrokes you might like the vimperator extension. I keep seeing this mentioned, and I suppose I ought to finally look into it. I have been using vi for years, but I haven't *really* learned it, and I still don't feel all that comfortable with it. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: usb keyboard support?
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:40:36 + Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all How smooth should Debian testing react to a USB keyboard? Should I expect it to work out of the box? Are there recommended models? (I managed to find only out-dated compatibility lists.) Please let me know your thoughts. I have the same experience as the other responders in this thread. Several years ago I first plugged in a Dell external USB keyboard to my system, and it has always Just Worked, although I've never used the funky stuff, just the regular keys. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [SOLVED]Re: Problems with adobe-flashplugin
Sjoerd Hiemstra writes: It looks like aptitude is not able, at the moment, to recover a package from that 'half-configured' state. Dpkg usually can. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [SOLVED]Re: Problems with adobe-flashplugin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:25:08 -0600 John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote: Sjoerd Hiemstra writes: It looks like aptitude is not able, at the moment, to recover a package from that 'half-configured' state. Dpkg usually can. -- John Hasler Unfortunately not in my case anyway - I tried every way to get it to delete or uninstall, including using the --force-all option. Along the way it came up with some bizarre warnings. Aptitude at one point told me it was going to remove unrelated packages such as wbarconf, and would install Iceape along with a bunch of others. I told it to go ahead to see if that might help...but then it complained about the half installed package. It seemed like there was no way around the problem. Maybe dpkg needs a JustDoIt option :) - -- Frank -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLHFO2AAoJEMEDyLTvrVhjg8sIAKhyjbPRWWmWecx9pGb49nP+ 8nxchB5eXSlhQ2Lmch9tm5zugpdbo64FUXVMGZSeYHXFzJ7ssSlRDLIWTIC1jIWG L/QnKB0n9RDdasgiTPuOMtXa4GHfQvyaHSDutorpCqqUlkxJ2szLKjRQTdeBgdry QBisMfBicandgleIuwEyHx6j3PDqx58Ku8DeVdYa2yLq1NbQt7vNTF6cHoEQfXMU mtgD4eXNj6FHEK1zbbLoqAAyYMLaThzDRjKNVREmO2COO+xYvw4kqnl0kshOhQRd MpVBiGOv/R06WQ4cjLTtU7rdq7NhvLLRwhUHjkYnsJfyC2xkw2nUTvFvJgDbNn8= =ykQF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Will Debian accept a SATA to IDE hdd adapter?
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Glenn English g...@slsware.com wrote: .On Dec 6, 2009, at 2:44 AM, Mark wrote: Hmmm guess I'm stuck unless I'm missing something obvious. Very obvious, I think :-) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812104652 So true. Today I found a PCI SATA adapter plus the power adapter at a local store and now Debian is back up and running with a bigger faster secondary (storage only) hard drive. Thanks all for the clunks over the head for the obvious things I was missing! Mark
Mythfilldatabase problem in MythTV 0.22 from debian-multimedia
Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question, so any pointers to the right place would be welcomed. Since switching from the stable to the unstable branch of the debian-multimedia repository a few days ago in order to get MythTV 0.22, whenever I run mythfilldatabase, the following error is produced: XMLTV requires a Date::Manip timezone of + to work properly. Current Date::Manip timezone is wet. FillData, Error: xmltv returned error code 65280 It makes no difference what I set my timezone to, which makes me think it is a bug in mythfilldatabase, but if anyone has ideas for a fix I'm all ears since at the moment I'm getting no new program listings on my Myth system. This is an up-to-date Sid Athlon64 system as of today. I'll gladly provide any other information required. Cheers, Tom -- We don't have to protect the environment -- the Second Coming is at hand. -- James Watt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
