Re: [OT] can't see own post to the list
On 13/11/11 16:14, Doug wrote: > On 11/12/2011 11:48 PM, J. Bakshi wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have noticed that my own post to the list has been detected as spam >> at the gmail. >> Any way to avoid this ? >> >> Thanks >> >> > Probably not spam. Probably correct. It'd be the first time I've ever heard of a webmailer marking a client post as spam. If it's not in your gmail spam folder - it's not been marked by gmail as spam. Are you certain your webmail account marked it as spam?? If it did - log into your account, find the email in the spam folder, select it and click on the "Not Spam" button. > GMail deliberately removes your own list messages so > you can't see them and know that you actually were successful in > posting. Well, no. Not that I have shares in Google - just a dislike for BS and trolls. The gmail default settings is to *not* provide you with a duplicate in Sent mail. It's trivial to change - or just look at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/11/author.html This will show you your posts for the last 24 hours:- http://www.google.com/search?q=J.+Bakshi+site%3Alists.debian.org%2Fdebian-user&tbs=qdr:d > I don't know why anyone would use GMail. For the same reason anyone outsources. So that someone else does the heavy lifting (spam filtering, storage, security etc). I don't know why *you'd* use an email account hosted on a server in Pakistan. Doesn't mean their isn't a good reason. :-) > > --doug > Cheers -- Iceweasel/Firefox extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebf6daa.7090...@gmail.com
Re: update-flashplugin-nonfree issue
J. Bakshi wrote: > When I executed the command as you suggested, I get as below > flash-mozilla.so - auto mode > link currently points to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so > /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so - priority 50 > /usr/lib/lightspark/liblightsparkplugin.so - priority 0 > Current 'best' version is '/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so'. That all looks pretty normal from that output. You have had lightspark installed previously. It is possible that something from that previous installation is hanging around causing trouble. I think it should have been working with just that installed. Of course I know you said it wasn't working and I believe you. And of course it is working now. So that is good too. > Though I have seen somewhere that chrome now a days shipped with inbuilt > flash player > for better performance.. but here I need to install it separately. Any ways > the browsers > are running well now :-) Yes. For Google's Chrome browser it is built in. See this reference. http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=108086 But Google's Chrome browser isn't quite the same as the free distribution Chromium Browser. Since code for Adobe Flash isn't available for the free version I assume that it must use the plugin the same as other free browsers. But I haven't been following the Chromium browser project very closely. I assume it uses it from the mozilla plugins so that it can share in the already relatively mature packages already available. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] can't see own post to the list
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:14:58 -0500 Doug wrote: > On 11/12/2011 11:48 PM, J. Bakshi wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have noticed that my own post to the list has been detected as spam at > > the gmail. > > Any way to avoid this ? > > > > Thanks > > > > > Probably not spam. GMail deliberately removes your own list messages so > you can't see them and know that you actually were successful in > posting. I don't know why anyone would use GMail. > Really disappointing !!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201311.30fa4...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: [OT] can't see own post to the list
On 11/12/2011 11:48 PM, J. Bakshi wrote: Hello, I have noticed that my own post to the list has been detected as spam at the gmail. Any way to avoid this ? Thanks Probably not spam. GMail deliberately removes your own list messages so you can't see them and know that you actually were successful in posting. I don't know why anyone would use GMail. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebf5252.2090...@optonline.net
[OT] can't see own post to the list
Hello, I have noticed that my own post to the list has been detected as spam at the gmail. Any way to avoid this ? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2013101807.582bf...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: update-flashplugin-nonfree issue
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:16:16 -0700 Bob Proulx wrote: > J. Bakshi wrote: > > I have run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" and it downloads the > > latest plugin > > at > > /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz > > > > after uncompromising it I get > > > > 1. libflashplayer.so > > 2. usr folder > > > > I have copied libflashplayer.so at /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ > > but google-chrome still complaining about a old version and firefox > > want to download the plugin to activate flash support. Interestingly > > both the browser finally goes to the adobe site and download the same > > version > > as > > /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz > > > > Confused !!! can any one help please ? > > You should not need to do anything more than simply run the installer > as you have done. It will automatically check tar.gz integrity, > unpack it, and place the files into the correct locations. The script > is programmed to do everything that is needed. > > Perhaps you have set the alternatives to something different? Run > this command and see what it is set to. On a system here I see: > > $ update-alternatives --display flash-mozilla.so > > flash-mozilla.so - auto mode > link currently points to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so > /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so - priority 50 > /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so - priority 10 > Current 'best' version is '/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so'. > > As can be seen from the above gnash had been previously installed but > when I installed flashplugin-nonfree it installed itself with a higher > priority and converted all of the symlinks automatically. > > Perhaps in your case it will say something different and will show why > it didn't happen for you automatically? > Thanks Bob, I didn't know about it. I have only seen at the std output that the command has downloaded the flash. When I executed the command as you suggested, I get as below ` ` ` ` flash-mozilla.so - auto mode link currently points to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so - priority 50 /usr/lib/lightspark/liblightsparkplugin.so - priority 0 Current 'best' version is '/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so'. ` ` ` ` Though I have seen somewhere that chrome now a days shipped with inbuilt flash player for better performance.. but here I need to install it separately. Any ways the browsers are running well now :-) @Hugo - flash-mozilla.so points to the libflashplayer.so -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2013095407.15fea...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: HTTP proxy over ssh recommendation?
Jari Fredriksson wrote: > Bob Proulx kirjoitti: > > I often have a situation that I would like to improve. I need to > > access web servers that exist on a private subnet. I can log in using > > ssh. > > sshuttle is all you need. It is not a proxy per se, but it allows a > "poor man's VPN" over plain ssh. > > https://github.com/apenwarr/sshuttle Oh wow. That is very interesting! And one that is much too involved for me to make any comments this soon. I am off to reading about it in detail now and playing with it. Thank you for that suggestion. It looks very cool! Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Whats missing from Gnome3
Scott Ferguson wrote: > Richard wrote: > > Now when I was using rpm based distros, there was an app called > > alien which allowed .deb files to be loaded in an rpm system. Is > > there by chance an app to allow rpms to be loaded, it can't make a > > worse mess than there is already without the extension files. > > Um, yes. It's part of LSB and it's called *alien*. :-) > You can find it in the repositories. YMWV when using it - most failure > to convert from RH to Debian are easily fixed path issues. I have used alien and been into the guts of it and after really wanting it to work I was always disappointed. It sounds like a cool idea. I wanted it to work. But it just can't work perfectly because packages from different systems have different policies. The tool can't be smart enough to understand the policies of both systems and do the right thing in a sentient way. It is the policy differences that case the problems. That doesn't mean that there are some good examples where it works fine though. But it just always seemed that the cases I wanted to use it for were typical cases but ones that through no fault of its own it could not work perfectly. And not working perfectly meant that it made a sloppy mess on my machine. One of the reasons I have been able to successfully upgrade, upgrade, upgrade from release to release is that I don't allow my machine to get messed up between releases. Because of this I stopped using alien entirely. I recommend to avoid alien and to always use native solutions instead. Instead of trying to use alien to install rpms directly perhaps you might say exactly what you are wanting to accomplish and the brain trust on the mailing list might have a native alternative suggestion? Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: GNOME 3 issue - Evolution is offline due to a network outage
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > after upgrading all packages to latest GNOME 3 versions from testing > Evolution still starts with "Evolution is currently offline due to a > network outage. Evolution will return to online mode once a network > connection is established". It's impossible to connect it. Evolution 3 > did work with GNOME 2 some days ago. > > Now Evolution only works, when I start it with the --force-online > option, without an option or with --online only it doesn't work. That is usually related to a combination of evolution, dbus, and NetworkManager. With all three installed the idea was that NM would say whether it had a working network or not over dbus. Tools like evolution would ask on dbus about the state of the network and switch to online or offline as networks were hotplugged. This breaks down when the network isn't managed by NM but NM is still running. Such as when /etc/network/interfaces is configured to use ifupdown instead. If NM is running then it won't have any networks under its control and it fails to recognize that the system does actually have a network running outside of its control. It will respond to evolution that there are no active networks even though there are active networks. That is a bug in NetworkManager. Depending upon your system and desire the solution is either to ensure that NM is configuring the network so that it knows the network state and can report it correctly or to ensure that it isn't configuring the network and isn't running so that it can't report it incorrectly. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?
On 13/11/11 11:55, John Hasler wrote: > Walter Hurry writes: >> you have three choices: > > You have four choices: > a) Wait until it improves (3,2, 3.3, 3.4)? > b) Put up with it as it as it is. > c) Switch to another desktop environment. There are several to choose >from. > d) Fork GNOME2 and bring it back yourself. It's Free Software. Well, five choices actually ;-) e) Fork off somewhere your demands are other peoples commands. Where the unicorns and magical pixies live... But we don't want people to do that, or we wouldn't support FOSS in the first place (those that understand what Debian means). Cheers -- Iceweasel/Firefox extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebf1b14.1070...@gmail.com
Re: Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?
On 13/11/11 11:13, Walter Hurry wrote: > It seems fashionable to complain about GNOME3. If you don't like it (and > personally I detest it), then you have three choices: > > a) Wait until it improves (3,2, 3.3, 3.4)? > b) Put up with it as it as it is. > c) Switch to another desktop environment. There are several to choose > from. > > GNOME2 is not coming back. "Fallback" mode is for a limited time only. > > But it seems to me that complaining gains little or nothing. > > Just my 2c. > > 1++ and thanks for saying something. I must be getting too old... I remember when FOSS meant *not whining* about lack of choice or the ability to change things. Seems it now means "I've got a suggestion/demand that'll make me happier but requires the effort/expense of others". Suggestion to those that are unhappy - developers do care about users (without the silent L) - they don't have enough time, resources, respect, or appreciation. Please take those things into account before filling the lists with your "developers don't pay enough attention to *my* needs/wants" posting - maybe then you'll get what you want, even if it's just a reality check (you can't have A without losing B etc). Part of what people complain about is a direct result of their (ignorant) demands. If you want FOSS for your phone *and* your desktop *and* the latest hardware - it requires more work, and more resources. Want support and documentation with that? Then you'll have to accept that those changes will have to apply to more than just you. And please, pointing at [insert product here] and asking why Debian doesn't do it just prompts the obvious response (even if people are too polite to tell you to go do it). You can't have "things stay the same" when staying the same means being able to browse a rapidly changing internet, and support changing hardware and multimedia. Would you like it ported to ARM as well? If you aren't developing answers to problems, then you're bound to follow those that do - bitching just means "they" *won't* take your "needs" into account. Criticism is only good if it's constructive - and "pointing" is *not* constructive, it's just obnoxious and immature self-validation. It also makes the complainers sound like rent-a-whine puppets. My 2c. Cheers -- Iceweasel/Firefox extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebf19be.5030...@gmail.com
Re: Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?
Walter Hurry writes: > you have three choices: You have four choices: a) Wait until it improves (3,2, 3.3, 3.4)? b) Put up with it as it as it is. c) Switch to another desktop environment. There are several to choose from. d) Fork GNOME2 and bring it back yourself. It's Free Software. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bosgkfhg@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
I updated my Wheezy box this morning and it updated to GNOME Shell. After using it for an hour or so, it isn't so bad as to be unusable. Despite my comments about it a week or so ago, I think I'll give it a go for a while and see how it improves when 3.2.x finally migrates in. I did like that it picked up my GNOME 2 panel session and reopened my apps although all on the same workspace. But it was no problem to move them down. As I had spent the past week working with Ubuntu 11.10 and Unity on the same laptop, the new GNOME shell seemed not all that different. Each has a few bumps and rough spots and it will be interesting to watch both of them develop over the next year or so. I think that each will push the other much faster than if either were in development alone. - Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2013001509.ga9...@n0nb.us
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.
I right-clicked on the app title bar and selected minimize from there. To get the app back I used Alt-Tab. IceWM is a nice bit of software. I used it for a long time. I think that if you want something similar to your GNOME 2 panel experience that XFCE will probably be a reasonable choice. I have XFCE running on this machine, on my Xubuntu DVR, and via a thumb drive that I use on my work laptop when I don't want to lug two machines along. I have TDE installed on a couple of other machines and I've been playing with Unity and GNOME Shell. Perhaps I'm simply mad! ;-) - Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2013001948.ge12...@n0nb.us
Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?
It seems fashionable to complain about GNOME3. If you don't like it (and personally I detest it), then you have three choices: a) Wait until it improves (3,2, 3.3, 3.4)? b) Put up with it as it as it is. c) Switch to another desktop environment. There are several to choose from. GNOME2 is not coming back. "Fallback" mode is for a limited time only. But it seems to me that complaining gains little or nothing. Just my 2c. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9n23f$uqp$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
Camaleón writes: >On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 05:15:42 +, Cam Hutchison wrote: >> I'd like to keep using the panel from GNOME 2. I like its world clock, >> the menu and a couple of applets. >> >> Is this still in unstable at all? The replacement seems to be less >> functional (at the moment). >Yes, you can still launch the "fallback" mode from login manager. There >you can add the applets and put the panels in a similar way that GNOME2 >allowed. I have tried fallback mode, but even in that mode I cannot configure the panels, and it does not have the GNOME 2 world clock. I like to have a single panel at the bottom of the screen with a few useful things on it. I also have two monitors so I need a panel on each, and each is configured differently. It appears that the GNOME 3 panel is completely locked down with no way to configure it, whether standard or fallback mode. I accept that for my uses, I cannot use GNOME 3, which is why I'm looking for a replacement panel for the GNOME 2 panel. I run fvwm under GNOME 2, with a configuration that has evolved over 15 years. GNOME 3 model is so far away from my current desktop model that there's no chance of giving it a go. GNOME 3 wont work with a different window manager. There's a chance I could move from fvwm to compiz, if that will work with GNOME 3, but so far, no other window manager lets me configure it in the way I currently use fvwm. I have tried xfce and kde, neither of which are to my taste. I could elaborate, but it's really just personal preference and things I just think are done poorly or incompletely. I expect I will be going back to an .xinitrc/.xsession based setup, cherry-picking the parts I like from existing tools. It looks like I will need to find replacements for: * gnome-panel: There's a number of panels, most of which would probably be ok, except that the gnome world clock is not a separate component, but part of gnome-panel. Perhaps I'll look at what can be done to split it out into it's own component that can be used on any panel. * gnome-settings-daemon: I have a love-hate relationship with this at the moment - it mostly does things well but occasionally does things contrary to what I want and refuses to budge, or just seems to flake out sometimes. Since xsettings is a fdo spec, there's hope for drop-in replacements. * nautilus: I mostly use the command line, but I like the auto-mounting, and I'm one of those few users that like the spatial mode of nautilus. * gnome-bluetooth: This gives a nice easy way to set up bluetooth devices. I hope it can be run mostly independently of GNOME. * pulseaudio: I like it, and always have. I like being to easily move audio from my little USB speakers to my internal sound card connected to my amp and good speakers, and then to my bluetooth headphones. I've been living with a hobbled Debian version of GNOME for some time, since they've ripped out pulseaudio support from gnome-settings-daemon making my keyboard volume and mute keys non-functional. * system-config-printer-applet: Oh how I hate having to manually configure CUPS, and this tool seems to work most of the time. On the plus side, it will be nice to get rid of the evolution mail client and components altogether. I tried it for a while, but could not adjust. I'm happy with a combination of mutt and gmail. >> Otherwise is there a compatible panel available that can use the GNOME 2 >> world clock? >World clock should available in gnome-shell 3.2. Perhaps I'll revisit GNOME 3 then. It certainly has potential, but I'm disappointed that it was released without being a superset of GNOME 2. Thanks for your input. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1149.4ebefb6f.a3...@getafix.xdna.net
Re: Whats missing from Gnome3
On 13/11/11 10:31, Richard wrote: > > Now when I was using rpm based distros, there was an app called alien which > allowed .deb files to be > loaded in an rpm system. > Is there by chance an app to allow rpms to be loaded, it can't make a worse > mess than there is already > without the extension files. > Um, yes. It's part of LSB and it's called *alien*. :-) You can find it in the repositories. YMWV when using it - most failure to convert from RH to Debian are easily fixed path issues. Cheers -- Iceweasel/Firefox extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebf0865.10...@gmail.com
Whats missing from Gnome3
Hi, With the mess that dropping the gnome3 desktop in to Wheezy It really is imperative the gnome3 extensions are released in to sid and wheezy. These are the extensions to put the minimize , maximize and kill button in the top RH corner of opened apps, And to put shutdown as well as suspend, holding ALT shows shutdown on the menu, there a 6 extension files with the gnome suite to allow more customisation. Its a bit like buying a car, automobile, with the wheels being sold as extras. Now when I was using rpm based distros, there was an app called alien which allowed .deb files to be loaded in an rpm system. Is there by chance an app to allow rpms to be loaded, it can't make a worse mess than there is already without the extension files. -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com or richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Debian Wheezy amd64 on a Dual core AMD Athlon 5200, 4 GB RAM Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012233150.6607fd08@debian
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > Hi, all: > > What an appalling piece of crap is GNOME3! I just did an innocent routine upgrade, and an eminently usable gnome 2 turned into a mess. Instead of writing my novel, I spent the rest of the evening trying to figure out how to use it, and gave up. It seemed to be bent on showing me how with it and exciting it was, instead of just being in the background and letting me focus on my work. There's no way to minimize a window. I can slide my browser off to the side when I don't want to look at it, but it insists in covering half my screen anyway. There's no task bar. No convenient place I can click to instantly switch to another window. How am I supposed to be efficient with this thing? (IMNSHO anyway.) So I > installed xfce4 (the metapackage which installs all the basics and some > extras). I gave up and installed KDE4. Then I switched to icewm. Peace at last, though a few things aren't quite as convenient. Following the Debian menu to an actual program goes through a lot of submenus before I get to it. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9msqf$3h6$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: GNOME 3 - Help needed - Testing upgraded from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3
Allow me to join the choir :) I actually had high hopes for some of the stuff. Integrating IM account control in the top right menu is a great idea, and I like the way notifications are presented. But empathy is possibly even worse than Evolution, it won't connect to half of my accounts and "invisible" mode still shows me online to my contacts. If I login to Gnome3 in dual-screen mode, it immediately bails out with "session gnome failed to start". If I start in single-screen mode and then use xrandr to enable the second screen, Gnome freezes to the point where only the mouse and Ctrl-Alt-Bksp still work. If I use the system-settings control panel, the displays flicker and then it resets to clone mode. Yay! But the worst part is that gnome-settings-daemon won't keep its grubby hands off my configuration. By default, even though I'm running Enlightenment, it reconfigured mouse speed and keyboard even though I've been fine with those settings for years. And now that I've touched the xrandr system settings, I can no longer start g-s-d while in Enlightenment because it f***s up my display settings... Ralf Mardorf (ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net on 2011-11-11 23:51 +0100): > Hahaha :D > > GNOME 3 what an odd DE. > Missing features (weather, restart option etc.), Evolution doesn't > work, because it can't connect to the network, it tries to force us > to install pulseaudio, it completely breaks the workflow of sane > users. Empathy has a setting for that, maybe Evolution has too? $ gsettings set org.gnome.Evolution use-conn false > > Before I run the upgrade I saved a backup of my GNOME 2 Debian. Is > there the need to restore Debian from the backup, or is there a way > to get back a usable DE, by editing GNOME 3? Others have pointed out the fallback mode, but if I try that, X won't start at all (can't find session gnome-fallback). > > Could it be, that Evolution isn't working anymore, because I didn't > install pulseaudio, hence gnome-core couldn't be upgraded too? Could be. Then again, Evolution working properly could also be a sign of an impending apocalypse... > > I can't install pulseaudio, because this would break my DAW. Join the club :) You will get no sound in Gnome, but fear not, the most hideous beep at gdm3 login is back! > > How can I get back a theme, window buttons etc.? $ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'greybird' You need to install xfwm or murrine-themes for that to work though. You can use gnome-tweak-tool to restore window controls, but I've not yet found the gsettings incantation for that. > > Even NumLock is disabled and the fonts are a PITA. $ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface font-name 'DejaVu Sans 10' Apparently you need to install numlockx to get your numlock powers back... > > By default it's the ugliest DE I've ever seen in my life. Not really, my gtk2 apps look even worse if I start them without starting g-s-d. Hope this helps (at the very least, venting always helps me ;) Arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012233042.6dd19...@neminis.intra.loos.site
Re: Chomium "The sync server is busy..."
On 11-11-12 04:32 PM, Douglas Saylor wrote: I've been getting this message for 2-days now. Anyone know if this is a Google or Debian problem? It's happened beforea Google problem usually. It was happening to me for 2 or 3 weeks about a month ago. -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebeec69.3070...@videotron.ca
Re: virtualbox just became slow (SOLVED)
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:34:28 + (UTC), I wrote: >> Anytime I boot or there's a power outage, I have to go through this if >> our home router (Netgear Wireless-N 150 router WNR1000 v2) hands over >> a new IP. On Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:20:33 +, Brad Rogers replied: > I have a different model of router (still a Netgear, though) which > allows the allocation of reserved IP addresses. Look for something like > "LAN IP Setup", in which it should be possible to add reserved > addresses. There you simply enter the MAC address and a device name then > allocate the desired IP address. This should avoid you having to juggle > stuff after every power failure or reboot. Thanks. I just did this on the router under LAN Setup / Address Reservation. Along the way I was reminded why it took me so long. A member of this household had changed the router password and then lost it. If this group has the ability to tell me where that scrap of paper is, I'd rather not know about it. So we looked harder and eventually found it ourselves, thus avoiding the need to reset all router settings to defaults. Thanks again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.2012t224359-...@post.gmane.org
Chomium "The sync server is busy..."
I've been getting this message for 2-days now. Anyone know if this is a Google or Debian problem?
Re: HTTP proxy over ssh recommendation?
11.11.2011 0:15, Bob Proulx kirjoitti: > I often have a situation that I would like to improve. I need to > access web servers that exist on a private subnet. I can log in using > ssh. sshuttle is all you need. It is not a proxy per se, but it allows a "poor man's VPN" over plain ssh. https://github.com/apenwarr/sshuttle -- "Not Hercules could have knock'd out his brains, for he had none." -- Shakespeare signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Problem in bind9 9.8.1 package on SID
Jorge Bastos - Decimal wrote: > After updating to the last SID package of bind9, I have: > Setting up bind9 (1:9.8.1.dfsg-1) ... > NOT updating named.conf.options to include DNSSEC enablement > Starting domain name service...: bind9 failed! > invoke-rc.d: initscript bind9, action "start" failed. > dpkg: error processing bind9 (--configure): > subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > configured to not write apport reports > Errors were encountered while > processing: > bind9 > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Worked for me when I upgraded to 9.8.1.dfsg-1 on 2011-11-04. > Nov 12 17:35:04 peixe named[6577]: initializing DST: openssl failure > Nov 12 17:35:04 peixe named[6577]: exiting (due to fatal error) > The previous version, 9.7x was working OK, and I have all the debian > defaults, havent changed any conf. > ... > How can I solve this? Start at /etc/bind/named.conf and look through all of the include file statements. There is an error in one of them. This error is preventing your configuration from starting. You will need to find that error and fix it. Worst comes to worst you could start with a fresh set of configuration files that work and then merge your current configuration back into the fresh pristine working one. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: update-flashplugin-nonfree issue
J. Bakshi wrote: > I have run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" and it downloads the latest > plugin > at /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz > > after uncompromising it I get > > 1. libflashplayer.so > 2. usr folder > > I have copied libflashplayer.so at /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ > but google-chrome still complaining about a old version and firefox > want to download the plugin to activate flash support. Interestingly > both the browser finally goes to the adobe site and download the same version > as /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz > > Confused !!! can any one help please ? You should not need to do anything more than simply run the installer as you have done. It will automatically check tar.gz integrity, unpack it, and place the files into the correct locations. The script is programmed to do everything that is needed. Perhaps you have set the alternatives to something different? Run this command and see what it is set to. On a system here I see: $ update-alternatives --display flash-mozilla.so flash-mozilla.so - auto mode link currently points to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so - priority 50 /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so - priority 10 Current 'best' version is '/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so'. As can be seen from the above gnash had been previously installed but when I installed flashplugin-nonfree it installed itself with a higher priority and converted all of the symlinks automatically. Perhaps in your case it will say something different and will show why it didn't happen for you automatically? Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:13:49 -0500, Doug wrote: > I seem to recall that this Gnome3 and Unity first came from Ubuntu. Unity did. GNOME3 has no origin in Ubuntu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9mmkj$8c9$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
On 11/12/2011 12:38 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:25:21 +0100, Erwan David wrote: On 12/11/11 18:22, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:14:37 -0600, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: (...) And more general, how can I customize gnome 3. I found one "advances tweak" application, but what one can do is very limited! Debianites, gnome-shell 3.0 is not very user customizable (it is, but is costly), we have to wait for the 3.2 or higher to be able to select between themes and more options. Take gnome-shell 3.0 as a transient step to another version and expect more changes for the new upcoming releases. FRom what I read, just consider gnome 3.0 as a pre-alpha... Although probably GNOME developers don't like that term, I'd say "sort of", yes. Then maybe open bug reports to debian asking for gnome2 until gnome3 is ready... I've read that upcoming stable (wheezy) will be shipped with gnome-shell 3.2 or even 3.4, but I'm afraid gnome2 "as we used to know it" won't be an option. Greetings, I seem to recall that this Gnome3 and Unity first came from Ubuntu. Canonical has come right out and said that they're after the Apple market, and Apple products are _not_ customizable. So why should anyone be surprised? --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebed37d.3010...@optonline.net
Re: Meaning of letters in aptitude output not found with ? inside aptitude
On Sb, 12 nov 11, 13:45:06, Harry Putnam wrote: > Some of the letters that appear in aptitude output are not explained > inside the aptitude interface with the ? key. > > Uppercase A comes to mind, as in > > aptitude search ~ahold > [...] > ihA apache2.2-bin - Apache HTTP Server common binary files > [...] > > Is it auto install or is that lowercase `a'? > > Where can a list of all possible letters or whatever, in aptitude > output, and there meaning, be found? I'm aware that some are available > by pressing ? inside the aptitude interface.. but some are not listed > there. /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: problems
On 11/12/2011 09:18 AM, Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:47:07PM +, HEDDY, WILLIAM wrote: To whom it may concern, I downloaded and installed Debian on my computer last night and I rebooted the computer and now all that comes up is a white cursor on a black screen. Did I just completely kill my Windows 7 operating system? You probably just messed up the bootloader. Try using Super Grub Boot Disk -- it'll try to find whatever operating systems are installed on your hard disk: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/category/download/supergrub2diskdownload/ -Rob Maybe I'm missing something, but that page lists only floppy disk downloads. If you follow the link to CD-rom booters, you get a Google list of commercial software. Since many machines no longer boot from floppies, or don't even have a drive, this isn't very helpful. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebecd09.1060...@optonline.net
Meaning of letters in aptitude output not found with ? inside aptitude
Some of the letters that appear in aptitude output are not explained inside the aptitude interface with the ? key. Uppercase A comes to mind, as in aptitude search ~ahold [...] ihA apache2.2-bin - Apache HTTP Server common binary files [...] Is it auto install or is that lowercase `a'? Where can a list of all possible letters or whatever, in aptitude output, and there meaning, be found? I'm aware that some are available by pressing ? inside the aptitude interface.. but some are not listed there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ty69nn0d@newsguy.com
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:08:44 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > (...) > > > Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) > > Hum... it's not GNOME3 but gnome-shell what you don't like. > I wouldn't know, my two-year-old Gigabyte MB is apparently too old for Gnome 3. According to the Gnome site: 'It is our primary focus to build a modern operating environment, platform, and user experience. It doesn't make sense to target the hardware of the past.' And there was me thinking that one of the greatest strengths of Linux was the wide range of hardware it runs on. > And nope, as soon as I can customize some of the basics of the shell > I'm fine. At the end of the day what I have used are programs > (thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox...) not a desktop environment. And > what's a desktop environment, by the way? "Something" that > allows/facilitates you to run your preferred applications :-) And once you have the hang of it, that should be that. You shouldn't have to relearn it unless you deliberately want to change it. Running the applications you mention does *not* need a gaming graphics card, and I have no plans to buy one. As long as all my monitor's pixels all light up, a frame buffer is good enough for me. > > I can get used to the "new desktop paradigm" (or whatever they prefer > to name it), because regardless what GNOME developers and we -plain > users- say, we are still doing the same things in another way, I > mean, there is nothing new nor revolutionary "per se" in the new > shell. And I'd rather go on doing the same things with the least possible disruption. When I have my car serviced, I don't want it to come back with all the controls in different places, just because someone thinks it looks cool that way. > > Don't be afraid: the jump is not that long as it first seems. > This is a working machine: I don't have time to fix other peoples' mistakes. I've gone for LXDE, which I've dabbled with before, and which seemed the quickest way to get working again. I'm sure Gnome will get along just fine without me, as I won't be going back. I have no problem with new models of products, but dumping your existing users doesn't seem to me to be the way to win friends and influence people. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012185158.48eea...@jretrading.com
Re: Yikes, 140 held packages
Arno Schuring writes: > What does the following show: > $ aptitude search ~ahold > > This should probably give you the list of 135 packages. You can release > the held packages by using the same syntax: > # aptitude unhold ~ahold Yes it does... thanks for the unhold stuff with aptitude [...] Snipped very nice walk thru of unholding dpkg and aptitude. Thanks for the nice walk through. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y5vlno1z@newsguy.com
Re: update-flashplugin-nonfree issue
J. Bakshi wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:15:48 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:34:30 +0530, J. Bakshi wrote: I have run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" and it downloads the latest plugin at /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/ install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz after uncompromising it I get 1. libflashplayer.so 2. usr folder I have copied libflashplayer.so at /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ but google-chrome still complaining about a old version and firefox want to download the plugin to activate flash support. Hum... AFAIK you have to drop the "libflashplayer.so" under "/usr/lib64/ mozilla/plugins/" folder, at least for Firefox (dunno where Google Chrome looks for the plugins) :-? Thanks... Here the problem solved after a reboot. google chrome is happy as it can see Flash - Version: 11.1 r102 Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102 firefox-8 don't claim to download the adobe plugins anymore. So what does it use for flashplayer? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9mgdu$306$1...@dough.gmane.org
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Re: update-flashplugin-nonfree issue
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:15:48 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:34:30 +0530, J. Bakshi wrote: > > > I have run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" and it downloads the > > latest plugin at > > /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/ > > install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz > > > > after uncompromising it I get > > > > 1. libflashplayer.so > > 2. usr folder > > > > I have copied libflashplayer.so at /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ but > > google-chrome still complaining about a old version and firefox want to > > download the plugin to activate flash support. > > Hum... AFAIK you have to drop the "libflashplayer.so" under "/usr/lib64/ > mozilla/plugins/" folder, at least for Firefox (dunno where Google Chrome > looks for the plugins) :-? Thanks... Here the problem solved after a reboot. google chrome is happy as it can see Flash - Version: 11.1 r102 Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102 firefox-8 don't claim to download the adobe plugins anymore. can see youtube on both the browser :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2013003334.2cce0...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:29:58 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Samstag, 12. November 2011 schrieb Camaleón: >> > FRom what I read, just consider gnome 3.0 as a pre-alpha... >> >> Although probably GNOME developers don't like that term, I'd say "sort >> of", yes. > > How do I remember quite some of this and other points from this thread > from the introduction of KDE 4! I do not use GNOME, did not even test > GNOME 3.0 yet, but I think that with KDE 4.6.5, I did not yet test 4.7, > its not packaged for Debian officially yet, it has gone a long way since > KDE 4. I tried KDE 4.0 when it was first shipped within major distributions long time ago, and plasma crashed many (but many, many, many...) times. At least gnome-shell 3.0 has not reached this level or at least that's not my experience. > And it is likely that GNOME 3.2, 3.4, 3.6, 3.8 will go a long way from > GNOME 3.0. Sure, gnome-shell is nowadays a moving target. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.18.38...@gmail.com
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
Am Samstag, 12. November 2011 schrieb Camaleón: > > FRom what I read, just consider gnome 3.0 as a pre-alpha... > > Although probably GNOME developers don't like that term, I'd say "sort > of", yes. How do I remember quite some of this and other points from this thread from the introduction of KDE 4! I do not use GNOME, did not even test GNOME 3.0 yet, but I think that with KDE 4.6.5, I did not yet test 4.7, its not packaged for Debian officially yet, it has gone a long way since KDE 4. And it is likely that GNOME 3.2, 3.4, 3.6, 3.8 will go a long way from GNOME 3.0. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121929.59069.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Problem in bind9 9.8.1 package on SID
Howdy people, After updating to the last SID package of bind9, I have: --- Setting up bind9 (1:9.8.1.dfsg-1) ... NOT updating named.conf.options to include DNSSEC enablement Starting domain name service...: bind9 failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript bind9, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing bind9 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 configured to not write apport reports Errors were encountered while processing: bind9 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) --- And in syslog: --- Nov 12 17:35:04 peixe named[6577]: starting BIND 9.8.1 -u bind Nov 12 17:35:04 peixe named[6577]: built with '--prefix=/usr' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--sysconfdir=/etc/bind' '--localstatedir=/var' '--enable-threads' '--enable-largefile' '--with-libtool' '--enable-shared' '--enable-static' '--with-openssl=/usr' '--with-gssapi=/usr' '--with-gnu-ld' '--with-geoip=/usr' '--enable-ipv6' 'CFLAGS=-fno-strict-aliasing -DDIG_SIGCHASE -O2' Nov 12 17:35:04 peixe named[6577]: adjusted limit on open files from 1024 to 1048576 Nov 12 17:35:04 peixe named[6577]: found 2 CPUs, using 2 worker threads Nov 12 17:35:04 peixe named[6577]: using up to 4096 sockets Nov 12 17:35:04 peixe named[6577]: initializing DST: openssl failure Nov 12 17:35:04 peixe named[6577]: exiting (due to fatal error) --- The previous version, 9.7x was working OK, and I have all the debian defaults, havent changed any conf. This may be due to chroot but, there's something on the package that needs to be fixed. How can I solve this? Thanks in advanced, Jorge Bastos, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/003e01cca161$d3b5abe0$7b2103a0$@pt
Re: KVM networking.
Thank You for Your time and answer, Arno: >You're adding a host route, whereas you need a network route. Try: >$ sudo ip route add 192.168.1.0/24 via 192.168.1.1 Ah I have found my mistake - wrong broadcast was set in the guest. Now tap interface and under user - works! Thank You, again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebeb431.8471cc0a.61f7.1...@mx.google.com
Re: KVM networking.
Thank You for Your time and answer, Arno: >> /usr/bin/kvm -localtime -m 256 -no-reboot -boot c -hda da >> -net nic -net tap,ifname=$(sudo /usr/sbin/tunctl -b -u $(whoami); >> sudo /sbin/ifconfig tap0 192.168.1.1 up; sudo /sbin/route add -host >> 192.168.1.1 dev tap0),script=no,downscript=no > >You're adding a host route, whereas you need a network route. Try: >$ sudo ip route add 192.168.1.0/24 via 192.168.1.1 I already have the route: default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.10 192.168.1.0/24 dev tap0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1 dev tap0 scope link Yet $ ping 192.168.1.2 From 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable Hmm? >I think this setup might need additional configuration on the outside, >because you need to add the same subnet route on your Internet >modem/router. I don't think qemu gives you NAT for free... Host can forward then between the nets. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebeb241.9177cd0a.7a73.9...@mx.google.com
Re: Cannot log into GNOME after upgrading to GNOME3 in testing
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:07:03 +0800, H Xu wrote: > On 11/12/2011 08:54 PM, Camaleón wrote: >>> gnome-panel: no process found >>> >>> I also used "ps aux | grep gnome-panel" to check this process, but >>> unluckily there is no such process. >> >> It is not running. >> >> Okay, so try to launch it manually, just run "gnome-panel". >> >> > Cannot run: > > $ gnome-panel > Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed > to load module "pk-gtk-module" > > (gnome-panel:6680): Gtk-CRITICAL **: > gtk_style_context_get_background_color: assertion `priv->widget_path != > NULL' failed > > (gnome-panel:6680): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_context_get: assertion > `priv->widget_path != NULL' failed > Segmentation fault It is segfaulting, how bad :-( Can you login into fallback mode with the new user or is it failing at the same point? >> I mean "package" updates, like "apt-get update&& apt-get -V >> dist-upgrade" or whatever you use to update your system ;-) >> >> > I've tried just now and everything is up-to-date. Ouch :-(( > Why are there so many crashes? :( I don't know... my upgrade path was very smoothly, I did it a couple of days ago and it worked well. I would search at Google for that error and see what other users experiencing a similar fault are saying about it: http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0&hl=en#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&complete=0&site=webhp&source=hp&q=%22Gtk-CRITICAL+**:+gtk_style_context_get%3A+assertion+%60priv-%3Ewidget_path+!%3D+NULL%27+failed%22&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=a686e28799f6b6d7&biw=1280&bih=888 Maybe you can find something that helps you to solve your problem. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.17.50...@gmail.com
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:25:21 +0100, Erwan David wrote: > On 12/11/11 18:22, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:14:37 -0600, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: (...) >>> And more general, how can I customize gnome 3. I found one "advances >>> tweak" application, but what one can do is very limited! >> >> Debianites, gnome-shell 3.0 is not very user customizable (it is, but >> is costly), we have to wait for the 3.2 or higher to be able to select >> between themes and more options. Take gnome-shell 3.0 as a transient >> step to another version and expect more changes for the new upcoming >> releases. >> >> >> > FRom what I read, just consider gnome 3.0 as a pre-alpha... Although probably GNOME developers don't like that term, I'd say "sort of", yes. > Then maybe open bug reports to debian asking for gnome2 until gnome3 is > ready... I've read that upcoming stable (wheezy) will be shipped with gnome-shell 3.2 or even 3.4, but I'm afraid gnome2 "as we used to know it" won't be an option. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.17.38...@gmail.com
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
On 12/11/11 18:22, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:14:37 -0600, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > >> see inline below. >> >> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:08, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >>> >>> (...) >>> Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) >>> >>> Hum... it's not GNOME3 but gnome-shell what you don't like. >>> >>> And nope, as soon as I can customize some of the basics of the shell >>> I'm fine. At the end of the day what I have used are programs >>> (thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox...) not a desktop environment. And >>> what's a desktop environment, by the way? "Something" that >>> allows/facilitates you to run your preferred applications :-) >>> >>> I can get used to the "new desktop paradigm" (or whatever they prefer >>> to name it), because regardless what GNOME developers and we -plain >>> users- >> >> I have several problems with gnome3 (or, then, gnome shell) . First, the >> menu button for "shutdown" has disappeared, how can i recover it? > > Hold down the "Alt" key. > >> And more general, how can I customize gnome 3. I found one "advances >> tweak" application, but what one can do is very limited! > > Debianites, gnome-shell 3.0 is not very user customizable (it is, but is > costly), we have to wait for the 3.2 or higher to be able to select > between themes and more options. Take gnome-shell 3.0 as a transient step > to another version and expect more changes for the new upcoming releases. > > Greetings, > FRom what I read, just consider gnome 3.0 as a pre-alpha... Then maybe open bug reports to debian asking for gnome2 until gnome3 is ready... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebeac01.7080...@rail.eu.org
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:14:37 -0600, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > see inline below. > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:08, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >> >> (...) >> >>> Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) >> >> Hum... it's not GNOME3 but gnome-shell what you don't like. >> >> And nope, as soon as I can customize some of the basics of the shell >> I'm fine. At the end of the day what I have used are programs >> (thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox...) not a desktop environment. And >> what's a desktop environment, by the way? "Something" that >> allows/facilitates you to run your preferred applications :-) >> >> I can get used to the "new desktop paradigm" (or whatever they prefer >> to name it), because regardless what GNOME developers and we -plain >> users- > > I have several problems with gnome3 (or, then, gnome shell) . First, the > menu button for "shutdown" has disappeared, how can i recover it? Hold down the "Alt" key. > And more general, how can I customize gnome 3. I found one "advances > tweak" application, but what one can do is very limited! Debianites, gnome-shell 3.0 is not very user customizable (it is, but is costly), we have to wait for the 3.2 or higher to be able to select between themes and more options. Take gnome-shell 3.0 as a transient step to another version and expect more changes for the new upcoming releases. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.17.22...@gmail.com
Re: update-flashplugin-nonfree issue
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:34:30 +0530, J. Bakshi wrote: > I have run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" and it downloads the > latest plugin at > /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/ > install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz > > after uncompromising it I get > > 1. libflashplayer.so > 2. usr folder > > I have copied libflashplayer.so at /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ but > google-chrome still complaining about a old version and firefox want to > download the plugin to activate flash support. Hum... AFAIK you have to drop the "libflashplayer.so" under "/usr/lib64/ mozilla/plugins/" folder, at least for Firefox (dunno where Google Chrome looks for the plugins) :-? > Interestingly both the browser finally goes to the adobe site and > download the same version as /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/ > install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz > > Confused !!! can any one help please ? Yes, they have to be the same, the script you've run retrieves the files from there :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.17.15...@gmail.com
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
see inline below. On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:08, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > (...) > >> Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) > > Hum... it's not GNOME3 but gnome-shell what you don't like. > > And nope, as soon as I can customize some of the basics of the shell I'm > fine. At the end of the day what I have used are programs (thunderbird, > LibreOffice, Firefox...) not a desktop environment. And what's a desktop > environment, by the way? "Something" that allows/facilitates you to run > your preferred applications :-) > > I can get used to the "new desktop paradigm" (or whatever they prefer to > name it), because regardless what GNOME developers and we -plain users- I have several problems with gnome3 (or, then, gnome shell) . First, the menu button for "shutdown" has disappeared, how can i recover it? And more general, how can I customize gnome 3. I found one "advances tweak" application, but what one can do is very limited! Kjetil > say, we are still doing the same things in another way, I mean, there is > nothing new nor revolutionary "per se" in the new shell. > > Don't be afraid: the jump is not that long as it first seems. > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.17.08...@gmail.com > > -- "If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the human face - forever." George Orwell (1984) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAH=m5mgke0rwhev8ulnc6nvsf+bhz64-sdsx8e6sjwpbbb0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: (...) > Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) Hum... it's not GNOME3 but gnome-shell what you don't like. And nope, as soon as I can customize some of the basics of the shell I'm fine. At the end of the day what I have used are programs (thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox...) not a desktop environment. And what's a desktop environment, by the way? "Something" that allows/facilitates you to run your preferred applications :-) I can get used to the "new desktop paradigm" (or whatever they prefer to name it), because regardless what GNOME developers and we -plain users- say, we are still doing the same things in another way, I mean, there is nothing new nor revolutionary "per se" in the new shell. Don't be afraid: the jump is not that long as it first seems. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.17.08...@gmail.com
update-flashplugin-nonfree issue
Dear list, I have run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" and it downloads the latest plugin at /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz after uncompromising it I get 1. libflashplayer.so 2. usr folder I have copied libflashplayer.so at /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ but google-chrome still complaining about a old version and firefox want to download the plugin to activate flash support. Interestingly both the browser finally goes to the adobe site and download the same version as /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz Confused !!! can any one help please ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012223430.2b6cb...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
Patrick Wiseman wrote: Hi, all: What an appalling piece of crap is GNOME3! (IMNSHO anyway.) So I installed xfce4 (the metapackage which installs all the basics and some extras). Xfce session then shows up as an option on the login screen. When I logged in, the new Xfce panel asked me if I wanted to migrate from an old setup (I had used xfce4 a long time ago) and so I did that, and my old familiar desktop is restored. Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) would like to try Xfce4. I always liked it, especially on a machine with low resources. That's no longer my situation, but I prefer its lean look and footprint. Exactly what I did. Playing with xfce4-wmdock-plugin as we speak. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9m8it$fke$1...@dough.gmane.org
GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
Hi, all: What an appalling piece of crap is GNOME3! (IMNSHO anyway.) So I installed xfce4 (the metapackage which installs all the basics and some extras). Xfce session then shows up as an option on the login screen. When I logged in, the new Xfce panel asked me if I wanted to migrate from an old setup (I had used xfce4 a long time ago) and so I did that, and my old familiar desktop is restored. Perhaps others who dislike GNOME3 (does anyone not??) would like to try Xfce4. I always liked it, especially on a machine with low resources. That's no longer my situation, but I prefer its lean look and footprint. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAJVvKsP28gDLOiczcWeVDQJ-w8n9uGB==2bcz5k5qtjj1r4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian is asking for DVD...
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:14:46 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Victor Nitu > wrote: > > >> Please paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list here, as I suspect a >> setup removable media still hanging around in the settings. >> >> I hope you have network access on the troubling machine... >> >> > # > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 CD > Binary-1 20111008-13:01]/ squeeze main > > deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 > 20111008-13:01]/ squeeze main > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb-src > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main > > deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main deb-src > http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main > > # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile' > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main deb-src > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main > > Ah ...so I could "#" or since it's copied twice, delete out the deb > cdrom notation? > (I do have network access) Yes, comment out or remove the second instance. Victor nailed it. Please don't post HTML. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9m789$pmt$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:17:01 +, Camaleón wrote: > I think Fedora 15 shipped gnome-shell 3.0, the same we have right now in > Debian. But again, this 3.0 release provides little to nothing > customization options unless you manually go and edit the required > files. Upcoming versions of the shell will improve this a lot. Indeed it did. That was my reason for switching to LXDE on Fedora. But I have been so happy with LXDE that I use it on Debian Squeeze as well, even though Squeeze still has GNOME2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9m71v$pmt$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS not read by X
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 11 nov 11, 17:23:16, Dan B. wrote: Something _really_ screwy seems to be going on here. I think Gnome is overriding the keyboard settings. Did you read the part about its setting the keyboard settings in its X server differently depending on whether an unrelated X server was running? Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebe9f4d.30...@kempt.net
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:04:30 -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:51:06AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On 12 November 2011 09:56, Andrei POPESCU >> wrote: >> > On Jo, 10 nov 11, 08:56:46, Walter Hurry wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by >> >> >> > default? >> >> >> >> >> >> Interesting question. Which distributions do that? >> >> > >> >> > Debian of course :) >> >> >> >> It didn't for me when I installed Squeeze. Maybe I did it >> >> differently. >> >> And it didn't for me when I installed Lenny. I have just installed it >> manually. I have not got task-desktop, so do not need its >> dependencies. >> > I think swf-dec, rather than gnash, was the default on Lenny. That's correct. Lenny shipped "swfdec-mozilla" package: sm01@stt008:~$ cat /etc/*version 5.0.9 sm01@stt008:~$ dpkg -l | grep swfdec-mozilla ii swfdec-mozilla 0.6.0-5 Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Fla Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.16.27...@gmail.com
Re: Removing evolution but leave gnome intact?
kei...@strucktower.com (kei...@strucktower.com on 2011-11-10 19:24 -0800): > I realize it is not necessary, but if possible I'd like to remove > evolution. > > This is what I have tried so far: > > # aptitude unmarkauto gnome-control-center evolution-data-server > # aptitude unmarkauto libedataserverui1.2-11 capplets-data > # aptitude unmarkauto evolution-data-server-common > # aptitude unmarkauto gnome-session gnome-panel gnome-applets > > # aptitude -s -R remove --purge evolution-data-server / > evolution-data-server-common libedataserverui1.2-11 / > gnome-control-center: gnome-panel: gnome-applets: gnome-session: You cannot remove the data server or evolution libraries, they are tied into the gnome-panel's clock function. If they had >90% market share, they would be facing antitrust probes over it ;) You might be able to fake its presence by using equivs, but there's no telling whether that will break gnome-panel. Apart from that, removing the evolution binary is as far as you can go... Regards, Arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012172420.4be69...@neminis.intra.loos.site
Re: virtualbox just became slow (SOLVED)
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:34:28 + (UTC) Steve Kleene wrote: Hello Steve, > Anytime I boot or there's a power outage, I have to go through this if > our home router (Netgear Wireless-N 150 router WNR1000 v2) hands over > a new IP. I have a different model of router (still a Netgear, though) which allows the allocation of reserved IP addresses. Look for something like "LAN IP Setup", in which it should be possible to add reserved addresses. There you simply enter the MAC address and a device name then allocate the desired IP address. This should avoid you having to juggle stuff after every power failure or reboot. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Your life is like a schedule, you run to meet the bills Life Kills - Human League signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:14:23 +, Richard wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:41:32 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: >> Look at your "/etc/gdm3/daemon.conf" and check if these values are set: >> >> [daemon] >> AutomaticLoginEnable = true >> AutomaticLogin = your_username > > It looks like the user settings in the top RH pull down are not writing > to this file. I've now edited this file for auto login Yes, but I guess this is not gnome-shell's fault but GDM3. Since months this has been so, I mean, autologin in GDM3 has been, hum, how I could say, not broken but there was no place to set it and we had to manually edit the above file to enable it. And now we have a second issue with this, as you say toggling this "on" seems neither working ;-( >> > No floating panel in gnome3 so everything has to be down from the >> > pulldown menus >> >> What do you mean by this? :-? > In gnome3 desktop the panel is larger and is on either the LH or RH side > of the screen. My gnome-panel has been always configured at that length, going from the top-left to the top-right side of the screen :-) > On the panel are the commonly used apps and any that are running. It > seems to loose tethered as sometimes its on the left sometime on the > righ You mean the "dash"? I still have no clue on what it does but I have setup to be sort a launcher. And there's another thing I miss much: the notification area now is broken for many packages I tend to use, such as mail-notification and liferea. I hope these applications adhere to the new gnome-shell way soon. Anyway, there are many nice themes for the upcoming gnome-shell (>3.2) showing different layouts. DevianART has an extensive and impressive gallery. >> > How do you switch DM to LXDE etc, there is nothing on the login pane >> > as there used to be. >> >> I have TWM in the dropdown menu so other desktops should be also >> present. > I have nothing in the drop down on the login pane except system default Are the other DE showed from the fallback mode login screen? >> > I maybe stuck in fallback mode , but how do you get out of it ? >> >> Give gnome-shell a time... newer versions will be more customizable and >> 3.2 is now in experimental. Let's hope Wheezy is released with "gnome- >> shell" 3.4. >> >> > I don't mind waiting as long as the the desktop is not such a mess as it > is in Fed FC15 I think Fedora 15 shipped gnome-shell 3.0, the same we have right now in Debian. But again, this 3.0 release provides little to nothing customization options unless you manually go and edit the required files. Upcoming versions of the shell will improve this a lot. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.16.17...@gmail.com
Re: Debian is asking for DVD...
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Victor Nitu wrote: > > Please paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list here, as I > suspect a setup removable media still hanging around in the settings. > > I hope you have network access on the troubling machine... > > # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20111008-13:01]/ squeeze main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20111008-13:01]/ squeeze main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile' deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main Ah ...so I could "#" or since it's copied twice, delete out the deb cdrom notation? (I do have network access)
Re: Networking starts disabled (using Ethernet card)
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:44:58 +, John Hudson wrote:
> I'm more or less a beginner with Linux but have installed Debian Squeeze
> on another PC successfully; on this one, networking shows "Disconnected"
> after every boot (logging on as a standard user, not 'root') and I can
> only get the built-in Ethernet card to connect by disabling wired
> networking and then re- enabling. As I want to use the machine as a
> server, this is pretty useless to me - the intention is to use it
> without a monitor in the long-term, which means it won't work at all as
> things are.
Despite the message, is the network available, I mean, can you browse the
web? If yes, check if this applies:
http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager#Wired_Networks_are_Unmanaged
Also, run "/sbin/ifconfig; ip ro" and put here the output.
Anyway, if you plan to use your computer as a server, I would configure
the system to use the old method ("legacy network connection") for
setting up the network instead NetworkManager.
> The PC is connected to my router via a CAT5 cable and a Netgear
> Powerline adaptor (the same as the older Dell PC that connected at boot
> without any problems). The puzzling bit is that the network obviously
> worked during installation (booting from a Debian Squeeze setup CD), as
> various bits of extra software were downloaded.
>
> Any thoughts on how I can get the machine to connect to the network
> automatically on boot?
Debian network documentation is very good and worth reading:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html
Greetings,
--
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Re: Yikes, 140 held packages
Harry Putnam (rea...@newsguy.com on 2011-11-12 05:31 -0600):
> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>
> > I would suggest you run 'aptitude safe-upgrade' first and then try
> > 'aptitude full-upgrade'. Don't worry, aptitude will present all
> > changes to you before applying. If you don't like or understand
> > what you see just copy-paste it here and we'll have a look.
>
> It happens that I had already run `aptitude full-upgrade' before
> seeing your post... It removed a fairly extensive list of pkgs. But
> still I see 135 on hold. I forgot how to list only installed with
> aptitude but running `aptitude search . |grep ^ih' shows 135
(you were look for aptitude search ~i)
What does the following show:
$ aptitude search ~ahold
This should probably give you the list of 135 packages. You can release
the held packages by using the same syntax:
# aptitude unhold ~ahold
If that doesn't work, the packages could be held in dpkg instead, but
the output is slightly different (and aptitude and dpkg easily
disagree):
$ echo "xfonts-encodings hold" |sudo dpkg --set-selections
$ aptitude search ~ahold
ihA xfonts-encodings - Encodings for X.Org fonts
$ sudo aptitude unhold xfonts-encodings
[..]
$ aptitude search ~ahold
$ dpkg --get-selections|grep hold
xfonts-encodingshold
$ dpkg -l xfonts\*
hi xfonts-encodin
ii xfonts-utils
[..]
To quickly unhold packages held by dpkg, you can use this:
$ dpkg --get-selections|awk '$2=="hold" {$2="install";print}' > list
Review the list before feeding it to set-selections:
$ sudo dpkg --set-selections < list
Regards,
Arno
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Networking starts disabled (using Ethernet card)
I'm more or less a beginner with Linux but have installed Debian Squeeze on another PC successfully; on this one, networking shows "Disconnected" after every boot (logging on as a standard user, not 'root') and I can only get the built-in Ethernet card to connect by disabling wired networking and then re- enabling. As I want to use the machine as a server, this is pretty useless to me - the intention is to use it without a monitor in the long-term, which means it won't work at all as things are. The PC is connected to my router via a CAT5 cable and a Netgear Powerline adaptor (the same as the older Dell PC that connected at boot without any problems). The puzzling bit is that the network obviously worked during installation (booting from a Debian Squeeze setup CD), as various bits of extra software were downloaded. Any thoughts on how I can get the machine to connect to the network automatically on boot? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.2012t153909-...@post.gmane.org
[OT] mantis not sending e-mail
Hello all, I'm trying to get mantis to send e-mails but I can't get it right. I posted on the mantis list but I got no replies. So I wonder if anyone on Debian list is using mantis. I've tried many scenarios but I still can't get mantis to send e-mails. The logs generated are not clear enough. Anyone out there has had experience with this ? my config_local.php contains no settings. below is my config_inc.php and my contains this concerning smtp stuff cat /usr/share/mantis/www/config_defaults_inc.php | grep smtp $g_smtp_host = 'gate.***.com'; $g_smtp_username = 'jmcferreira'; $g_smtp_password = '***'; $g_smtp_connection_mode = 'tls'; $g_smtp_port = 25; Any help would be much appreciated. The smtp settings are correct because this is the smtp server I use every day. Thank you Joao -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1321109923.2980.7.ca...@wheejy.critical.pt
Re: virtualbox just became slow (SOLVED)
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:54:11 + (UTC), I wrote > I've been happily running a virtualbox Windows XP machine (VM) on a Wheezy > host for eight months. However, the VM just became pathologically slow. > For example, if I boot the VM, call Photoshop 6, and open a small JPG, it > all works but takes several minutes. During much of this time the XP Task > Manager pins at 100% CPU usage, and the host's cooling fans are revving > hard. If I then ask to print the JPG, Photoshop (eventually) declares > "There is not enough memory for this operation". This has apparently been fixed by deleting a network LaserJet printer defined as this in XP: http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/LaserJet_5MP In fact the host had been assigned a different IP (192.168.1.3). I have created a printer with that address and everything's fine. This is aggravating because I've known of this problem for a long time (although this seemed worse than usual). The first thing I did was to check the printer URL, but I must have failed to read it carefully enough. Anytime I boot or there's a power outage, I have to go through this if our home router (Netgear Wireless-N 150 router WNR1000 v2) hands over a new IP. I haven't found a way to have it always assign the same IP. Maybe booting the Debian host as a fixed IP would do it, or maybe the router would hand out that same IP to some second device, creating a conflict. Anyway thanks to Scott Ferguson for leading me to look into the network as the source of the problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.2012t153358-...@post.gmane.org
Re: problems
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:47:07PM +, HEDDY, WILLIAM wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > I downloaded and installed Debian on my computer last night and I rebooted > the computer and now all that comes up is a white cursor on a black screen. > Did I just completely kill my Windows 7 operating system? > You probably just messed up the bootloader. Try using Super Grub Boot Disk -- it'll try to find whatever operating systems are installed on your hard disk: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/category/download/supergrub2diskdownload/ -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012141858.gc18...@aurora.owens.net
Re: KVM networking.
Sthu Deus (sthu.d...@gmail.com on 2011-11-11 23:23 +0700): > >Sthu Deus (sthu.d...@gmail.com on 2011-11-08 14:44 +0700): > >> 1. The bridges take the Internet connections for itself - thus > >> leaving the host app.s w/o Internet access, probably routing needed > >> here - but they do not make any specifications for that. > >> > >That sounds weird. What does brctl show? A default setup with these > >two lines should already work fine: > > > >iface br0 inet dhcp > > bridge_ports eth0 > > > >Just remember to leave eth0 unconfigured... > > Then how do host's app.s will get to Internet? Through the bridge. I can't tell what's missing until you show us your bridge configuration, if you have any. I'll show my config for comparison: $ ip addr show eth0 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast master br0 state UNKNOWN qlen 1000 link/ether 00:17:31:4a:c6:a3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff $ ip -4 addr show br0 4: br0: mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP inet 172.22.15.221/24 scope global br0 Note the "master br0" on the eth0 configuration, and the lack of any IP addresses. My routing is slightly different, but you can see there are no routes using eth0 directly: ladmin@golem:~$ ip -4 route show default via 172.22.21.1 dev vlan21 172.22.15.0/24 dev br0 proto kernel scope link src 172.22.15.221 > >> 2. As a workstation - it does not provide access from host to the > >> guest. > >> > >You mean networking access? I've never needed it, but it should work > >once your host apps have networking access... (just tested: ping > >between host and vm works fine for me). > > I mean that DHCP of KVM gives Internet access to guest and having no > interface from host to guest, I can not reach the guest from host. Of > course, host app.s and guest's app.s - both have Internet connection, > but not host-guest connection. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but KVM only does DHCP and basic routing with -net user and not with -net tap FAFAIK. > > >> 3. W/ tap - You have seen already the problem - some unknown to me > >> permission problem - do You know why is it so? > >> [..] > > Now it works - regarding the permission problem, but I need the > interface (tap). > > Of course I can create by root w/: > > ifconfig tap0 192.168.1.1 up > > route add -host 192.168.1.1 dev tap0 > > but I want w/o root. Then you should consider using -net user instead of -net tap, I think. I agree that it is slightly weird that you can't configure a tap interface even when you own it, but it makes sense: you're not just configuring the tap interface (which you can do from inside the VM), you're also changing the host's routing table. > And even w/ root - I still can not get network working between host > and guest - having configured guest w/: > See my other mail. You can get the network working by using the correct routes (I hope). But that won't get you internet access from the VM without either NAT or reconfiguring your modem. btw I made a mistake in the previous route command: you shouldn't need to set a gateway, just the "dev tap0" should be enough. Regards, Arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012151649.4ef2d...@neminis.intra.loos.site
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On 12 November 2011 14:04, Rob Owens wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:51:06AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On 12 November 2011 09:56, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> > On Jo, 10 nov 11, 08:56:46, Walter Hurry wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by >> >> >> > default? >> >> >> >> >> >> Interesting question. Which distributions do that? >> >> > >> >> > Debian of course :) >> >> >> >> It didn't for me when I installed Squeeze. Maybe I did it differently. >> >> And it didn't for me when I installed Lenny. I have just installed it >> manually. I have not got task-desktop, so do not need its >> dependencies. >> > I think swf-dec, rather than gnash, was the default on Lenny. No - I haven't got that either. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAP6GWwojjgQkNr6ew4F1zM=yoK_fZeqmWjaJkTBc=gcosbv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:47:33PM -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: > I used Debian once before, years ago & at the time Debian seemed difficult > to configure & software was way behind the times. I don't know if I'm just > getting older & more cranky, but I *think* I'd rather have older but stable > & "just works". For now, I'll have the option to boot into either Debian or > Ubuntu. I've used Ubuntu for years, but this Unity is killing me. Maybe > Debian will be a better fit for me. If so, I'll shrink my Ubuntu partition > or, maybe even delete the partition. If not, vise-versa ...Linux does give > you options. > Check out Debian Backports to get some newer software on Debian Stable. > I've put my time in with Unity as my main OS ...I'm not a fan. I tried to > like Unity. At this point, instead of seeming "dated" I'm betting Debian is > going to seem more like the old Ubuntu I once loved where as Unity is just > frustrating. I *wanted* to like Unity. I appreciate the *concept* of one OS > for phones, tablets & computers. Regretfully, Unity has only taught me to > appreciate how great my iPhone works. > Remember that Gnome 2 is no longer under development, so Debian will eventually be forced to use something else (most likely Gnome 3). Of course there are always other desktop environments and window managers available (KDE, LXDE, XFCE, Fluxbox, Openbox, etc.) And of course you could install any/most of those on Ubuntu if you wanted. > For the same reason Canonical wants to be on multiple devices, I could see > my next computer purchase being a Mac. I found Unity ...while pretty... was > also cumbersome, poorly executed, non-intuitive, buggy &*very* frustrating. > *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive & yes*very* pretty. > *If* Unity ever makes it to phones/tablets, I'm sure I'll give it a good > look-see on those devices. I must admit though, it'll take a *lot* for me > to switch from iOS. While I "prefer" my Linux just work, I *demand* my > phone "just works". Anyway, back to configuring the new OS. I've never tried Unity myself. But just remember that Unity is still very new, and likely will improve over the next few releases. Unfortunately (in my opinion), Ubuntu tends to push new stuff into their official releases very early. I think it damages their reputation, but I guess it's their decision. Anyway, just saying that Unity might get better. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012141603.gb18...@aurora.owens.net
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:51:06AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On 12 November 2011 09:56, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 10 nov 11, 08:56:46, Walter Hurry wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by > >> >> > default? > >> >> > >> >> Interesting question. Which distributions do that? > >> > > >> > Debian of course :) > >> > >> It didn't for me when I installed Squeeze. Maybe I did it differently. > > And it didn't for me when I installed Lenny. I have just installed it > manually. I have not got task-desktop, so do not need its > dependencies. > I think swf-dec, rather than gnash, was the default on Lenny. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012140430.ga18...@aurora.owens.net
Re: KVM networking.
Sthu Deus (sthu.d...@gmail.com on 2011-11-11 23:41 +0700): > > I have included more options to network script: > > /usr/bin/kvm -localtime -m 256 -no-reboot -boot c -hda da > -net nic -net tap,ifname=$(sudo /usr/sbin/tunctl -b -u $(whoami); > sudo /sbin/ifconfig tap0 192.168.1.1 up; sudo /sbin/route add -host > 192.168.1.1 dev tap0),script=no,downscript=no You're adding a host route, whereas you need a network route. Try: $ sudo ip route add 192.168.1.0/24 via 192.168.1.1 Or, with the older tools (a bit rusty): $ sudo route add 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.1 dev tap0 I think this setup might need additional configuration on the outside, because you need to add the same subnet route on your Internet modem/router. I don't think qemu gives you NAT for free... Regards, Arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012145818.63559...@neminis.intra.loos.site
Re: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:41:32 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:59:47 +, Richard wrote: > > > If gnome3 was more user configurable it would be OK, I'm still using it > > on my laptop with FC15. My problems are: > > no automatic login~ yes I've set the user options and they get ignored > > This already has to be working. It does for me. > > Look at your "/etc/gdm3/daemon.conf" and check if these values are set: > > [daemon] > AutomaticLoginEnable = true > AutomaticLogin = your_username It looks like the user settings in the top RH pull down are not writing to this file. I've now edited this file for auto login > > > No floating panel in gnome3 so everything has to be down from the > > pulldown menus > > What do you mean by this? :-? In gnome3 desktop the panel is larger and is on either the LH or RH side of the screen. On the panel are the commonly used apps and any that are running. It seems to loose tethered as sometimes its on the left sometime on the righ > > > How do you switch DM to LXDE etc, there is nothing on the > > login pane as there used to be. > > I have TWM in the dropdown menu so other desktops should be also present. I have nothing in the drop down on the login pane except system default > > > I maybe stuck in fallback mode , but how do you get out of it ? > > Give gnome-shell a time... newer versions will be more customizable and > 3.2 is now in experimental. Let's hope Wheezy is released with "gnome- > shell" 3.4. > I don't mind waiting as long as the the desktop is not such a mess as it is in Fed FC15 > Thanks Camaleon -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com or richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Debian Wheezy amd64 on a Dual core AMD Athlon 5200, 4 GB RAM Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012131423.2fafb7a1@debian
Re: AW: AW: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:26:31 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi Camaleón, hi everybody else :) > > at the moment the fallback mode looks promising. Don't put your expectations on it :-) > This weekend might become a weekend of snapshot-backups and restores. I > still haven't installed gnome-core for version 3, regarding to the > dependency pulseaudio. Perhaps I'll start with a dummy package for > pulseaudio or something similar. Yes, pulseaudio seems to be pulled by some metapackages (gnome, gnome- core and gnome-desktop-environment) so maybe you can avoid installing it by manually cherry-picking the gnome packages. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.13.10...@gmail.com
Re: Cannot log into GNOME after upgrading to GNOME3 in testing
On 11/12/2011 08:54 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:42:41 +0800, H Xu wrote: On 11/12/2011 08:30 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:19:46 +0800, H Xu wrote: On 11/12/2011 07:58 PM, Camaleón wrote: Does reloading the panels make any effect? (Alt+F2 → gnome-terminal → killall gnome-panels) The following message is printed: gnome-panels: no process found Oops, I added an additional "s". The process is indeed "gnome-panel". Still: gnome-panel: no process found I also used "ps aux | grep gnome-panel" to check this process, but unluckily there is no such process. It is not running. Okay, so try to launch it manually, just run "gnome-panel". Cannot run: $ gnome-panel Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" (gnome-panel:6680): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_context_get_background_color: assertion `priv->widget_path != NULL' failed (gnome-panel:6680): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_context_get: assertion `priv->widget_path != NULL' failed Segmentation fault Are there still any pending updates for you? The pending updates are: (...) I mean "package" updates, like "apt-get update&& apt-get -V dist-upgrade" or whatever you use to update your system ;-) I've tried just now and everything is up-to-date. Why are there so many crashes? :( Hong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebe6f77.7030...@gmail.com
Re: Cannot log into GNOME after upgrading to GNOME3 in testing
aptitude update && aptitude install gnome Em 12-11-2011 09:54, Camaleón escreveu: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:42:41 +0800, H Xu wrote: On 11/12/2011 08:30 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:19:46 +0800, H Xu wrote: On 11/12/2011 07:58 PM, Camaleón wrote: Does reloading the panels make any effect? (Alt+F2 → gnome-terminal → killall gnome-panels) The following message is printed: gnome-panels: no process found Oops, I added an additional "s". The process is indeed "gnome-panel". Still: gnome-panel: no process found I also used "ps aux | grep gnome-panel" to check this process, but unluckily there is no such process. It is not running. Okay, so try to launch it manually, just run "gnome-panel". Are there still any pending updates for you? The pending updates are: (...) I mean "package" updates, like "apt-get update&& apt-get -V dist-upgrade" or whatever you use to update your system ;-) Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebe6dff.6090...@gmail.com
Re: Cannot log into GNOME after upgrading to GNOME3 in testing
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:42:41 +0800, H Xu wrote: > On 11/12/2011 08:30 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:19:46 +0800, H Xu wrote: >> >>> On 11/12/2011 07:58 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> Does reloading the panels make any effect? (Alt+F2 → gnome-terminal → killall gnome-panels) >>> The following message is printed: >>> >>> gnome-panels: no process found >> >> Oops, I added an additional "s". The process is indeed "gnome-panel". > > Still: > > gnome-panel: no process found > > I also used "ps aux | grep gnome-panel" to check this process, but > unluckily there is no such process. It is not running. Okay, so try to launch it manually, just run "gnome-panel". >> Are there still any pending updates for you? > > The pending updates are: (...) I mean "package" updates, like "apt-get update && apt-get -V dist-upgrade" or whatever you use to update your system ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.12.54...@gmail.com
AW: AW: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Camaleón [mailto:noela...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Sa 11/12/2011 12:51 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: AW: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable? On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:59:38 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: (...) > OT: Are there any users who like GNOME 3 or Unity? I already don't like > KDE 4. I was a KDE 3 user, resp. since years i'm a GNOME 2 user, anyway, > "until now" KDE 4 might be not that worth as GNOME 3 already is. > Hopefully XFCE, LXDE, Fluxbox etc. will become similar to GNOME 2 > without beeing that buggy as e.g. E17 is. Ralf... I'll say it in few words. For those who don't like how GNOME3 looks like or how it behaves, start thinking in switching to another DE or WM. GNOME3 with its gnome-shell is here to stay, we like it or not, and I think the fallback mode will be removed sooner or later so do not trust much on it. For those -like me- who were a bit reluctant to the change, I'll just say it is a matter of time to get GNOME3 and gnome-shell the way we like. Debian has now gnome-shell 3.0 which is the first of the available versions for the new DE, gnome-shell 3.2 will be by far more configurable and gnome-shell 3.4 will be even better to customize. All we can think it can be done, the shell relies on text based files so creating new themes won't be a very difficult task and mutter (the composite window manager) in join with clutter (the graphics stack) are both very extensible by means of chunks of javascript/python/ruby code so I'd expect to be also highly tweakable. Greetings, - Hi Camaleón, hi everybody else :) at the moment the fallback mode looks promising. This weekend might become a weekend of snapshot-backups and restores. I still haven't installed gnome-core for version 3, regarding to the dependency pulseaudio. Perhaps I'll start with a dummy package for pulseaudio or something similar. Thanx to everybody, Ralf
Re: Cannot log into GNOME after upgrading to GNOME3 in testing
On 11/12/2011 08:30 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:19:46 +0800, H Xu wrote: On 11/12/2011 07:58 PM, Camaleón wrote: Does reloading the panels make any effect? (Alt+F2 → gnome-terminal → killall gnome-panels) The following message is printed: gnome-panels: no process found Oops, I added an additional "s". The process is indeed "gnome-panel". Still: gnome-panel: no process found I also used "ps aux | grep gnome-panel" to check this process, but unluckily there is no such process. If nothing seems to work, jump to a terminal (tty) and try by creating a new user to login with it. I've already tried that, but it doesn't work. The xsession-errors says: (...) gnome-session[3133]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed by signal gnome-session[3133]: WARNING: App 'gnome-shell.desktop' respawning too quickly This can be the gnome-shell crash. Are there still any pending updates for you? The pending updates are: [1321099980,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/] The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the application ** (gnome-settings-daemon:3311): WARNING **: Ignoring unknown module 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.gconf' Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" (parcellite:3248): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_xsettings_watch_cb(): Couldn't find window to unwatch (nautilus:3255): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_xsettings_watch_cb(): Couldn't find window to unwatch Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" But I don't think it's related to the login. Hong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebe69c1.8090...@gmail.com
Re: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:59:47 +, Richard wrote: > If gnome3 was more user configurable it would be OK, I'm still using it > on my laptop with FC15. My problems are: > no automatic login~ yes I've set the user options and they get ignored This already has to be working. It does for me. Look at your "/etc/gdm3/daemon.conf" and check if these values are set: [daemon] AutomaticLoginEnable = true AutomaticLogin = your_username > No floating panel in gnome3 so everything has to be down from the > pulldown menus What do you mean by this? :-? > How do you switch DM to LXDE etc, there is nothing on the > login pane as there used to be. I have TWM in the dropdown menu so other desktops should be also present. > I maybe stuck in fallback mode , but how do you get out of it ? Give gnome-shell a time... newer versions will be more customizable and 3.2 is now in experimental. Let's hope Wheezy is released with "gnome- shell" 3.4. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.12.41...@gmail.com
Re: Cannot log into GNOME after upgrading to GNOME3 in testing
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:19:46 +0800, H Xu wrote: > On 11/12/2011 07:58 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> Does reloading the panels make any effect? >> >> (Alt+F2 → gnome-terminal → killall gnome-panels) >> >> > The following message is printed: > > gnome-panels: no process found Oops, I added an additional "s". The process is indeed "gnome-panel". >> If nothing seems to work, jump to a terminal (tty) and try by creating >> a new user to login with it. > > I've already tried that, but it doesn't work. > > > The xsession-errors says: (...) > gnome-session[3133]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed > by signal > gnome-session[3133]: WARNING: App 'gnome-shell.desktop' respawning too > quickly This can be the gnome-shell crash. Are there still any pending updates for you? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.12.30...@gmail.com
Re: Cannot log into GNOME after upgrading to GNOME3 in testing
On 11/12/2011 07:58 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:35:09 +0800, H Xu wrote: After I have upgraded to GNOME3 in wheezy, I'm unable to login to GNOME. When login, the following message is displayed on my screen: """ Oh, no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again. """ If I choose the fallback session, only the desktop background is displayed. No panel, no desktop files. Does reloading the panels make any effect? (Alt+F2 → gnome-terminal → killall gnome-panels) The following message is printed: gnome-panels: no process found Could anyone help me? If nothing seems to work, jump to a terminal (tty) and try by creating a new user to login with it. I've already tried that, but it doesn't work. The xsession-errors says: /etc/gdm3/Xsession: Beginning session setup... /etc/gdm3/Xsession: 39: /etc/profile: source: not found script for ibus started. script for auto started. script for default started. GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-1kQEDQ GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/keyring-1kQEDQ/gpg:0:1 GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-1kQEDQ GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-1kQEDQ GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/keyring-1kQEDQ/gpg:0:1 GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-1kQEDQ GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/keyring-1kQEDQ/gpg:0:1 SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-1kQEDQ/ssh ** (gnome-settings-daemon:3211): WARNING **: Ignoring unknown module 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.gconf' Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" gnome-session[3133]: WARNING: Failed to start app: Unable to start application: Failed to execute child process "wicd-gtk" (No such file or directory) Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Failure: Module initalization failed Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Window manager warning: Log level 8: gtk_style_context_get: assertion `priv->widget_path != NULL' failed gnome-session[3133]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed by signal Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Failed to play sound: File or data not found Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area (nm-applet:3264): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Initializing nautilus-open-terminal extension Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Initializing nautilus-gdu extension (nautilus:3255): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy Window manager warning: Log level 8: gtk_style_context_get: assertion `priv->widget_path != NULL' failed gnome-session[3133]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed by signal gnome-session[3133]: WARNING: App 'gnome-shell.desktop' respawning too quickly ** (nautilus:3255): WARNING **: Can not determine workarea, guessing at layout (gnome-settings-daemon:3211): Gdk-WARNING **: The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'. (Details: serial 1390 error_code 8 request_code 3 minor_code 0) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) Thanks for your help. Hong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas.
Re: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:59:38 +0100 "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Cam Hutchison [mailto:c...@xdna.net] > Gesendet: Sa 11/12/2011 06:15 > An: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Betreff: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable? > > I'd like to keep using the panel from GNOME 2. I like its world clock, > the menu and a couple of applets. > > Is this still in unstable at all? The replacement seems to be less > functional (at the moment). > > Otherwise is there a compatible panel available that can use the GNOME 2 > world clock? > > --- > > Three or four days ago testing switched from GNOME 2 to 3. Yesterday I made a > backup of my Debian > testing with the last GNOME 2 and today I'll restore it from the backup and > lock the GNOME packages. > It's not only GNOME that became an issue for Debian, I already locked tons of > packages. Today I'll > read about Arch Linux and perhaps I'll switch the distro. It seems today the > most common distros try > to become more worth than the commercial OS. Linux dinos like me might be > more comfortable with > Gentoo, Arch etc.. > > I wouldn't expect that unstable will ship with GNOME 2, while testing already > switched to GNOME 3. > > OT: Are there any users who like GNOME 3 or Unity? I already don't like KDE > 4. I was a KDE 3 user, > resp. since years i'm a GNOME 2 user, anyway, "until now" KDE 4 might be not > that worth as GNOME 3 > already is. Hopefully XFCE, LXDE, Fluxbox etc. will become similar to GNOME 2 > without beeing that > buggy as e.g. E17 is. > > 2 Cents, > > Ralf If gnome3 was more user configurable it would be OK, I'm still using it on my laptop with FC15. My problems are: no automatic login~ yes I've set the user options and they get ignored No floating panel in gnome3 so everything has to be down from the pulldown menus How do you switch DM to LXDE etc, there is nothing on the login pane as there used to be. I maybe stuck in fallback mode , but how do you get out of it ? -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com or richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Debian Wheezy amd64 on a Dual core AMD Athlon 5200, 4 GB RAM Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012115947.01a5ace2@debian
Re: Cannot log into GNOME after upgrading to GNOME3 in testing
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:35:09 +0800, H Xu wrote: > After I have upgraded to GNOME3 in wheezy, I'm unable to login to GNOME. > When login, the following message is displayed on my screen: > > """ > Oh, no! Something has gone wrong. > > A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and > try again. > """ > > If I choose the fallback session, only the desktop background is > displayed. No panel, no desktop files. Does reloading the panels make any effect? (Alt+F2 → gnome-terminal → killall gnome-panels) > Could anyone help me? If nothing seems to work, jump to a terminal (tty) and try by creating a new user to login with it. Anyway, the reason of the crash should be logged at your "~/.xession- errors" file. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.11.58...@gmail.com
Re: nfs howto - are debian docs dated?
Scott Ferguson writes: >> Exchange of files between debian desktop and solaris zfs servers. > Nested? > ACLs? > I'm not sure what you're asking there... Don't know what Nested means in this context... but as for ACLs, well no... there is no need for that in my setup... its a single user sort of setup. Unless you just mean setting things up so access is easy on both ends. [...] > That's easy with BSD - I've minimal recent experience at fixing problems > with nfs4.1 and zfs (Solaris) - meaning it's always taken about 2 > minutes to setup. Maybe I just got lucky, maybe that and because I never > wasted my time with unfs3 ;-) 2 minutes... eh?... maybe you can say how you setup the solaris server far as nfs4 goes? [...] > Solaris > With ACLs see this:- > http://www.bfccomputing.com/2011/03/15/creating-a-permission-free-share-with-zfs-acls-and-nfsv4/ > For a more succinct explanation than I'd provide. Oh, never mind saying how you did it... I hadn't seen that site before but it looks quite a bit more extensive than what I vaguely remembered (But that was for nfs3). The trusty chmod -R A=everyone@[...] shown there is quite a lot more extensive than the one I recall: chmod -R A=everyone@:full_set:fd:allow But they might mean the same thing... Anyway... thanks for that site... looks like it has everything needed to get this working... I haven't finished setting things up yet... so can't say if I've been successful yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k475pndl@newsguy.com
Re: AW: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:59:38 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: (...) > OT: Are there any users who like GNOME 3 or Unity? I already don't like > KDE 4. I was a KDE 3 user, resp. since years i'm a GNOME 2 user, anyway, > "until now" KDE 4 might be not that worth as GNOME 3 already is. > Hopefully XFCE, LXDE, Fluxbox etc. will become similar to GNOME 2 > without beeing that buggy as e.g. E17 is. Ralf... I'll say it in few words. For those who don't like how GNOME3 looks like or how it behaves, start thinking in switching to another DE or WM. GNOME3 with its gnome-shell is here to stay, we like it or not, and I think the fallback mode will be removed sooner or later so do not trust much on it. For those -like me- who were a bit reluctant to the change, I'll just say it is a matter of time to get GNOME3 and gnome-shell the way we like. Debian has now gnome-shell 3.0 which is the first of the available versions for the new DE, gnome-shell 3.2 will be by far more configurable and gnome-shell 3.4 will be even better to customize. All we can think it can be done, the shell relies on text based files so creating new themes won't be a very difficult task and mutter (the composite window manager) in join with clutter (the graphics stack) are both very extensible by means of chunks of javascript/python/ruby code so I'd expect to be also highly tweakable. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.11.51...@gmail.com
Cannot log into GNOME after upgrading to GNOME3 in testing
Hello everyone, After I have upgraded to GNOME3 in wheezy, I'm unable to login to GNOME. When login, the following message is displayed on my screen: """ Oh, no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again. """ If I choose the fallback session, only the desktop background is displayed. No panel, no desktop files. Could anyone help me? Thanks, Hong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebe59ed.2060...@gmail.com
Re: Yikes, 140 held packages
Andrei POPESCU writes: > I would suggest you run 'aptitude safe-upgrade' first and then try > 'aptitude full-upgrade'. Don't worry, aptitude will present all changes > to you before applying. If you don't like or understand what you see > just copy-paste it here and we'll have a look. It happens that I had already run `aptitude full-upgrade' before seeing your post... It removed a fairly extensive list of pkgs. But still I see 135 on hold. I forgot how to list only installed with aptitude but running `aptitude search . |grep ^ih' shows 135 I received a notice earlier today that there were pkgs to upgrade so running aptitude full-upgrade again now: It lists 8 pkgs ready for upgrade and when its done I still see 135 on hold. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87obwhpofq@newsguy.com
AW: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Cam Hutchison [mailto:c...@xdna.net] Gesendet: Sa 11/12/2011 06:15 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable? I'd like to keep using the panel from GNOME 2. I like its world clock, the menu and a couple of applets. Is this still in unstable at all? The replacement seems to be less functional (at the moment). Otherwise is there a compatible panel available that can use the GNOME 2 world clock? --- Three or four days ago testing switched from GNOME 2 to 3. Yesterday I made a backup of my Debian testing with the last GNOME 2 and today I'll restore it from the backup and lock the GNOME packages. It's not only GNOME that became an issue for Debian, I already locked tons of packages. Today I'll read about Arch Linux and perhaps I'll switch the distro. It seems today the most common distros try to become more worth than the commercial OS. Linux dinos like me might be more comfortable with Gentoo, Arch etc.. I wouldn't expect that unstable will ship with GNOME 2, while testing already switched to GNOME 3. OT: Are there any users who like GNOME 3 or Unity? I already don't like KDE 4. I was a KDE 3 user, resp. since years i'm a GNOME 2 user, anyway, "until now" KDE 4 might be not that worth as GNOME 3 already is. Hopefully XFCE, LXDE, Fluxbox etc. will become similar to GNOME 2 without beeing that buggy as e.g. E17 is. 2 Cents, Ralf
AW: GNOME 3 - Help needed - Testing upgraded from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Richard [mailto:richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk] Gesendet: Sa 11/12/2011 01:33 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: GNOME 3 - Help needed - Testing upgraded from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3 On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:51:16 +0100 "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > Hahaha :D > > GNOME 3 what an odd DE. > Missing features (weather, restart option etc.), Evolution doesn't work, > because it can't connect to > the network, it tries to force us to install pulseaudio, it completely breaks > the workflow of sane > users. > > Is there a way to get back a panel that enables to switch between workspaces > and to switch between > apps? > > Is there a way to get back classic menus to launch apps? Even Ctrl+F2 lost > comfort. > > Before I run the upgrade I saved a backup of my GNOME 2 Debian. Is there the > need to restore Debian > from the backup, or is there a way to get back a usable DE, by editing GNOME > 3? > > This "Activities" bullshit is breaking the workflow of a musician. > > Could it be, that Evolution isn't working anymore, because I didn't install > pulseaudio, hence > gnome-core couldn't be upgraded too? > > I can't install pulseaudio, because this would break my DAW. > > How can I get back a theme, window buttons etc.? > > Even NumLock is disabled and the fonts are a PITA. > > By default it's the ugliest DE I've ever seen in my life. > > - Ralf > > PS: Sorry, I suspect this Windows browser thingy from my provider will send > in HTML. This is the number one reason for leaving FC15 and Gnome3. My applications and and places drop downs are still in place, but I sure the perpetrators of Gnome3 are in the payroll of that company in Redmond. All the extras that go with the G3 desktop aren't on the repos yet, not even on testing. make sure you load gnome-tweak-tool that helps abit. Have fun Thank you Richard :) I guess I'll restore Debian testing with GNOME 2 from the backup and lock the packages. In the future I'll use another DE. Ubuntu Studio switched to XFCE. XFCE and LXDE were the favourites. I wonder if Arch would be a better chocie instaed of switching between Suse, Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian ... Cheers! Ralf
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On 12 November 2011 09:56, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 10 nov 11, 08:56:46, Walter Hurry wrote: >> >> >> >> > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by >> >> > default? >> >> >> >> Interesting question. Which distributions do that? >> > >> > Debian of course :) >> >> It didn't for me when I installed Squeeze. Maybe I did it differently. And it didn't for me when I installed Lenny. I have just installed it manually. I have not got task-desktop, so do not need its dependencies. lisi@Junior:~$ aptitude search task-desktop lisi@Junior:~$ Lisi > > $ apt-cache rdepends browser-plugin-gnash > browser-plugin-gnash > Reverse Depends: > task-desktop > gnome > swfdec-mozilla > mozilla-plugin-gnash > gnash-dbg > task-desktop > gnome > swfdec-mozilla > mozilla-plugin-gnash > > A default install should pull gnash via the task-desktop dependency. > > Kind regards, > Andrei > -- > Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAP6GWwp8HN4i9Eta_h6z=pbx440ky0gidb98fcmyvdmwvkm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: GNOME 3 - Help needed - Testing upgraded from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3
Ralf Mardorf, 11.11.2011: > > GNOME 3 what an odd DE. > > Is there a way to get back a panel that enables to switch between workspaces > and to switch between apps? > > Is there a way to get back classic menus to launch apps? Even Ctrl+F2 lost > comfort. Try using gnome-session-fallback. It's relatively similar to the old gnome. (Though you need to press Alt when right-clicking on the panel.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012104855.ga2...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: (...) > *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive & yes*very* > pretty. Apple products are so closed, so limited and so restricted that renders you hardware into a beatiful brick. > *If* Unity ever makes it to phones/tablets, I'm sure I'll give > it a good look-see on those devices. I must admit though, it'll take a > *lot* for me to switch from iOS. While I "prefer" my Linux just work, I > *demand* my phone "just works". Anyway, back to configuring the new OS. Such demandings have a big price, don't forget it: the price of your freedom. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.10.43...@gmail.com
Re: Dead keys in Gnome3/Shell?
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:31:34 +0100, Olav Lavell wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:20:46 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote: > > >> - For the non-visible indicator problem: >> >> Run this from a terminal (don't worry, it is harmless, you are only >> requesting for a variable value): >> >> gsettings get org.gnome.libgnomekbd.indicator show-flags >> >> And put here the result. > > I already gathered that the command is harmless ;-) > > The result: "false" > > I even tried setting it to "true" and logging out and back in again. > Doesn't change anything. No indicator ever appears. It has to be set to "false". I hoped you had it to "true" but no luck ;-( >> - For the layout issue: >> >> Try by ading a different layout (e.g., "International with dead keys >> AltGr") and check if that works by pressing "AltGr+E" which should >> return >> an accented "é". > > Like I said in my previous message, nothing I do in the Layouts dialog > tab seems to have any effect. I tried many different keyboard layouts > (and combinations) already. The keyboard just behaves as if the "USA" > layout (the natural layout of the physical keyboard) is always in > effect, even when it is not even listed in the dialog. > > Anything else I can try? > > I am not a complete newbie but I feel like one in this case. I am not > well versed in the gsettings "registry". Try with the usual way by renaming (*rename*, do not delete) the GNOME setting configuration folder but for the new gnome-shell I'm not sure what to touch to make the magic... you can start with "~/.config/dconf" and "~/.cache/dconf" first and see if that makes any difference as all the gnome-shell settings seem to be stored at dconf :-? > Thank you for your continued interest. You're welcome :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.10.34...@gmail.com
Re: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 05:15:42 +, Cam Hutchison wrote: > I'd like to keep using the panel from GNOME 2. I like its world clock, > the menu and a couple of applets. > > Is this still in unstable at all? The replacement seems to be less > functional (at the moment). Yes, you can still launch the "fallback" mode from login manager. There you can add the applets and put the panels in a similar way that GNOME2 allowed. > Otherwise is there a compatible panel available that can use the GNOME 2 > world clock? World clock should available in gnome-shell 3.2. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.12.10.13...@gmail.com
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 11:29:08, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Really this more than anything illustrates that nonfree programs and > protocols are bad for us. It is important to prevent nonfree software > from being required. This is what makes the need for HTML5 to be > completely free so important. We can correct the mistakes that were > exploited that has caused so much trouble for so many people. Big +1 :) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 08:56:46, Walter Hurry wrote: > >> > >> > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by > >> > default? > >> > >> Interesting question. Which distributions do that? > > > > Debian of course :) > > It didn't for me when I installed Squeeze. Maybe I did it differently. $ apt-cache rdepends browser-plugin-gnash browser-plugin-gnash Reverse Depends: task-desktop gnome swfdec-mozilla mozilla-plugin-gnash gnash-dbg task-desktop gnome swfdec-mozilla mozilla-plugin-gnash A default install should pull gnash via the task-desktop dependency. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: dial-up modem usage
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 20:54:39, Rob Owens wrote: > > I can get gnome-ppp to recognize both modems. But when I attempt to > dial, I don't hear a dialtone or any dialing. Almost immediately the > application says something like "sending password", and it hangs there. > Of course it's going to hang -- it has not connected yet. > > So I'm thinking maybe I need some kind of initialization string for the > modem. Are they specific to a certain model of modem? Is there > something else I should be trying? Make sure you are trying to use the correct serial port. Especially winmodems will not be on the usual ports, but they create their own pseudo-serial port. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS not read by X
On Vi, 11 nov 11, 17:23:16, Dan B. wrote: > > Something _really_ screwy seems to be going on here. I think Gnome is overriding the keyboard settings. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian install , need to add wireless firmware
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 11:34:59, Brian wrote: > > Downloading a DVD/CD as a way of getting a bunch of .debs on to the > machine is certainly an alternative, but your concern about not being > able to access an NTFS partition is unjustified. An expert install is > capable of dealing with that when the installer components are loaded. The installer maybe, but I was talking about a base install. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Yikes, 140 held packages
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 04:56:08, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > > What are you using for updates, just the Update Manager or > > apt-get/aptitude? > > I've actually used both on occasion. Are you suggesting I should run > something in particular with an specific apt-get/aptitude command. > > Is there any other circumstance that would account for such a high > count of held packages? It is a high count at 140 right... or is that > not so abnormal? In testing and unstable it can happen that a safe-upgrade/upgrade is not enough, because sometimes packages just need to be removed. From what I recall even Update Manager suggests this when it's necessary. I would suggest you run 'aptitude safe-upgrade' first and then try 'aptitude full-upgrade'. Don't worry, aptitude will present all changes to you before applying. If you don't like or understand what you see just copy-paste it here and we'll have a look. Hope this helps, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
