Re: un conseil pour un client DynDNS ?

2013-12-21 Thread Monroux Philippe
  bon j'ai fait ça et ça progresse. Néanmoins ça ne marche tjrs pas...
  ce qui m'inquiète c'est:

  HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
  et
  Bad host


et j'ai oublié de dire que :

ping monAlias.mooo.com

ne donne rien

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Re: volume qui augmente tout seul !

2013-12-21 Thread Mourad Jaber


Le 20/12/2013 16:45, Haricophile a écrit :

Le Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:33:25 +0100,
Louis Wiart lwi...@gmail.com a écrit :


Au fait, ça a l'air d'être un bug connu, mais je n'ai rien trouvé chez
debian : https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=842983


2013/12/20 Louis Wiart lwi...@gmail.com

D'un autre côté, la console audio de KDE est assez complète pour se
passer de Pulse et passer par Alsa direct. Après pour les choses plus
compliquées il y a jackd (*^_^);
Ce serait possible si je n'avais pas icedove, iceweasel et quelques autres applications 
non KDE qui utilisent pulseaudio plutôt que phonon !


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rxvt et alt S

2013-12-21 Thread Monroux Philippe
Bonjour,

j'utilisais rxvt avec la fonction de recherche de chaînes à laquelle on avait
accès en appuyant sur Alt+s... me rappelle pu comment. Quelqu'un sait ?

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Re: Problemas con replicas

2013-12-21 Thread fernando sainz
El día 21 de diciembre de 2013, 5:29, Felix Perez
felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 20 de diciembre de 2013, 2:46, Felix Perez
 felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 20 de diciembre de 2013, 0:44,  lefr...@gmail.com escribió:
 Revise la réplicas y están funcionando debería de revisar  el acceso a los 
 repositorios, configuración a la red ? firewall ? Proxy ? ISP ? Conexion 
 lenta ? Conexion intermitente ?


 Gracias a todos por contestar, probare con un netinstall y les cuento.


 No no hay caso, no he podido instalar nada en esta maquina, probé con
 distintos debian, arch linux, freebsd9.1, fedora, y nada cuando se
 debe conectar a los repositorios para descargar paquetes nada de nada,
 en la instalación de debian al configurar apt, falla, es como si no
 alcanzara a descargar todo lo que necesita y pide otra replica y así
 sigue.

 Aclaro que esta maquina un notebook con intel centrino y 2,5gb de ram,
 ya tenía debian, pero tuve unos problemas y decidí reinstalar.

 El último intento es mañana o el domingo con una debian live.

 Saludos.


No has contestado como te conectas a internet.
Wifi, cable y con qué proveedor.

Si lo estas intentando con wifi, haz la prueba y usa el cable ethernet.

S2.


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Maximizar y vídeos a pantalla completa que ocupen dos pantallas

2013-12-21 Thread Víctor J . Chamorro
Buenas a todos

He estado buscando mucho, pero no encuentro exactamente lo que quiero.

Tengo 2 monitores que, unidos, utilizo para ver películas.

Simplemente me gustaría que al utilizar las opciones de pantalla
completa (full screen) se utilizasen ambos monitores en lugar de uno
solo.

Igualmente, al utilizar maximizar, las ventanas se maximizan
únicamente sobre un monitor, y no sobre los dos.

La tarjeta gráfica es una integrada Intel con 2 salidas VGA y otra
salida HDMI, las que utilizo son las dos VGA. ¿Alguna idea? como
entorno de escritorio uso fluxbox y para configurar los dos monitores
tengo configurado xrandr al inicio de fluxbox.

Un saludo y muchas gracias.

Víctor.


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Re: off-topic: Que usar para habilitar paginas https (iptables/proxy?)

2013-12-21 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:39:54 -0200, Flako escribió:

 El día 20 de diciembre de 2013, 11:58, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com 
escribió:
 El Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:38:23 -0200, Flako escribió:

 El día 19 de diciembre de 2013, 14:10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 Pues Fortigate permite todo esto:
 http://www.fortinet.com/products/fortigate/
 Y no me extrañaría nada que detrás estuviera o linux o bsd.


 Pues según wikipedia usa FLOSS, aunque no  hay referencia clara...
 pero en fin... tiene que haber una solución para linux!!

 Los hay, generalmente incluidos en soluciones integradas (appliance) 
que
 usan smoothwall, ipcop, m0n0wall y similares.

 
 Ipcop no lo hace (es lo que estoy usando), 

Por Internet hay tutoriales donde detallan los pasos para hacerlo:

http://gateway.hacker.my/2011/02/blocking-https-facebook-using-ipcop/

 y creo que tampoco smoothwall dado que usa dansguardian y este solo
 funciona con http

Pensaba que Smoothwall también era un distribución completa por lo que 
entiendo que incluirá más paquetes además de dansguardian ¿no?

 Conoces alguna solución armada/integrada que lo haga?

¿Te refieres que sea de código abierto? La mayoría de los dispositivos 
premontados que conozco de este tipo (con funciones avanzadas de 
cortafuegos, filtro de contenido, etc...) usan herramientas libres pero 
añaden sus propios programas que son de pago (por número de licencias) y 
de código propietario.

Wikipedia tiene un listado muy completo de distribuciones o soluciones de 
software con funciones de cortafuego, echa un vistazo a ver si te da 
alguna idea que puedas implementar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_router_or_firewall_distributions

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Re: Maximizar y vídeos a pantalla completa que ocupen dos pantallas

2013-12-21 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 21 Dec 2013 14:13:29 +0100, Víctor J. Chamorro escribió:

 He estado buscando mucho, pero no encuentro exactamente lo que quiero.
 
 Tengo 2 monitores que, unidos, utilizo para ver películas.
 
 Simplemente me gustaría que al utilizar las opciones de pantalla
 completa (full screen) se utilizasen ambos monitores en lugar de uno
 solo.
 
 Igualmente, al utilizar maximizar, las ventanas se maximizan únicamente
 sobre un monitor, y no sobre los dos.

Hum... ¿te refieres a una configuración de pantalla dual-head con 
xinerama¹? Así es como lo configuro siempre en un equipo que tengo de 
presentación y que tiene dos monitores y una tarjeta nvidia con salida 
dual.

 La tarjeta gráfica es una integrada Intel con 2 salidas VGA y otra
 salida HDMI, las que utilizo son las dos VGA. ¿Alguna idea? como entorno
 de escritorio uso fluxbox y para configurar los dos monitores tengo
 configurado xrandr al inicio de fluxbox.

Yo lo configuré con la utilidad de nvidia y generó el archivo xorng.conf 
correspondiente para la configuración con xinerama. Mira a ver si tienes 
alguna herramienta gráfica para tu gestor de ventanas que te permita 
configurarlo desde una GUI o si no también puedes crear un xorg.conf 
manualmente buscando alguna configuración en Internet que sea para las 
gráficas intel (como p. ej., esta página² de la wiki de Ubuntu tienes 
varios ejemplos) ya que cada driver usa términos distintos para activar 
el xinerama.

¹http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama
²https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
XineramaHowTo#Intel_integrated_graphics_adapters

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Re: Maximizar y vídeos a pantalla completa que ocupen dos pantallas

2013-12-21 Thread Antoni Bella Pérez

  Hola

  Creo haber encontrado lo que buscas.

«Preferencias del sistema - Comportamiento de la ventana - Guiones de KWin» 
habilitar «Panel de vídeo»

  El comentario dice: Extiende el reproductor de vídeo a pantalla completa 
sobre todas las pantallas conectadas para crear un panel de vídeo

  Atentamente
  Toni

El Dissabte 21 Desembre 2013, a les 14:13:29, Víctor J. Chamorro va escriure:
 Buenas a todos
 
 He estado buscando mucho, pero no encuentro exactamente lo que quiero.
 
 Tengo 2 monitores que, unidos, utilizo para ver películas.
 
 Simplemente me gustaría que al utilizar las opciones de pantalla
 completa (full screen) se utilizasen ambos monitores en lugar de uno
 solo.
 
 Igualmente, al utilizar maximizar, las ventanas se maximizan
 únicamente sobre un monitor, y no sobre los dos.
 
 La tarjeta gráfica es una integrada Intel con 2 salidas VGA y otra
 salida HDMI, las que utilizo son las dos VGA. ¿Alguna idea? como
 entorno de escritorio uso fluxbox y para configurar los dos monitores
 tengo configurado xrandr al inicio de fluxbox.
 
 Un saludo y muchas gracias.
 
 Víctor.


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Re: Maximizar y vídeos a pantalla completa que ocupen dos pantallas

2013-12-21 Thread Víctor J . Chamorro
Gracias, pero no estoy utilizando kde ni kwin, sino fluxbox.

Buscaré más info sobre xinerama.

Alguna otra idea será bienvenida.

Gracias!

El día 21 de diciembre de 2013, 15:15, Antoni Bella Pérez
antonibel...@orange.es escribió:

   Hola

   Creo haber encontrado lo que buscas.

 «Preferencias del sistema - Comportamiento de la ventana - Guiones de KWin»
 habilitar «Panel de vídeo»

   El comentario dice: Extiende el reproductor de vídeo a pantalla completa
 sobre todas las pantallas conectadas para crear un panel de vídeo

   Atentamente
   Toni

 El Dissabte 21 Desembre 2013, a les 14:13:29, Víctor J. Chamorro va escriure:
 Buenas a todos

 He estado buscando mucho, pero no encuentro exactamente lo que quiero.

 Tengo 2 monitores que, unidos, utilizo para ver películas.

 Simplemente me gustaría que al utilizar las opciones de pantalla
 completa (full screen) se utilizasen ambos monitores en lugar de uno
 solo.

 Igualmente, al utilizar maximizar, las ventanas se maximizan
 únicamente sobre un monitor, y no sobre los dos.

 La tarjeta gráfica es una integrada Intel con 2 salidas VGA y otra
 salida HDMI, las que utilizo son las dos VGA. ¿Alguna idea? como
 entorno de escritorio uso fluxbox y para configurar los dos monitores
 tengo configurado xrandr al inicio de fluxbox.

 Un saludo y muchas gracias.

 Víctor.


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dkim-filter

2013-12-21 Thread Lietzan Mota Rosabales
Acabo de instalar wheezy y cuando busco el paquete dkim-filter no lo 
encuentro(no tengo acceso a 
los repos de debian,cuento con uno instalado localmente),mi pregunta es 
si este dejo de usarce y si hay otro que realice la misma función.Gracias de 
antemano por sus respuestas.

Debian testing

2013-12-21 Thread Elvin Rodriguez
Buen dia!
Hace poco tiempo atrás pase de la versión estable a la testing y el
problema que he tenido es que se me queda pegada la interfaz gráfica y no
puedo restablecerla ni con(ctrl+alt+f1) service gdm3 restart.
Alguien ha tenido el mismo problema o puede solucionarlo?

Bendiciones!


Re: Debian testing

2013-12-21 Thread Francisco Antonio

 - Mensaje original -
 De: Elvin Rodriguez
 Enviado: 21-12-13 14:39
 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto: Debian testing
 
 Buen dia!
 Hace poco tiempo atrás pase de la versión estable a la testing y el
 problema que he tenido es que se me queda pegada la interfaz gráfica y no
 puedo restablecerla ni con(ctrl+alt+f1) service gdm3 restart.
 Alguien ha tenido el mismo problema o puede solucionarlo?
 
 Bendiciones!


Estimados,


Seria bueno que enviaras el error especifico que esta guardado en 
/var/log/xorg.log o algo similar,
o si quieres solucionarlo por ti mismo, entra en modo recorveri logeate root, 
dale stop a tu display manager ejemplo=(/etc/init.d/gdm stop) y ejecuta xinit 
--:1
toma el detalle si es que te da error y busca la solucion en google.
ademas busca informacion de lo que te muestra tu usuario al darle el comando 
(startx) centrate en las ultimas lineas y lo buscas en google.

Espero que te sirva si es que me entiendes

Saludos.



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Re: dkim-filter

2013-12-21 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:36:38 +, Lietzan Mota Rosabales escribió:

(ese html...)

 Acabo de instalar wheezy y cuando busco el paquete dkim-filter no lo
 encuentro(no tengo acceso a los repos de debian,cuento con uno instalado
 localmente),

El paquete existe pero lo han quitado de los repos (sólo lo veo 
disponible para Squeeze).

 mi pregunta es si este dejo de usarce y si hay otro que realice la
 misma función.Gracias de antemano por sus respuestas.

Parece que ha sido reemplazado por opendkim.

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Re: Instalar Wheezy

2013-12-21 Thread Francisco Antonio


 - Mensaje original -
 De: jors
 Enviado: 19-12-13 16:37
 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto: Re: Instalar Wheezy
 
 On 19/12/13 02:32, Manuel Máquez wrote:
  Soy novato en Linux y me animé a instalar Wheezy en un Pendrive y lo
  hice con archivos '.jigdo', la situación es que en este momento sólo
  tengo una carpeta jigdo-bin con los archivos que bajé y en ella están
  los siguientes programas del tipo '.exe':
  basename, dirname, grep, gzip, jigdo-file, mkdir, rm, sed, sh, wc y wget.
  Mi dudas son:
  a) ¿qué programa es el que hace la instalación?
  b) ¿se debe correr el programa en ambiente Windows o Linux?
  c) ¿ya efectuada la instalación, está listo el Pendrive para ser usado o
  requiere hacer otra actividad?
 
  Por su atención y ayuda les doy las mas cumplidas gracias.
  *MANOLO MÁRQUEZ P.*
 
 Como estamos en una lista de Debian, se me ocurre recomendarte la Guía 
 de instalación de Debian GNU/Linux oficial:
 
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/index.html.es
 ó
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/index.html.es
 
 Según la arquitectura deseada (64 ó 32 bits, respectivamente).
 
 Salut,
 jors
 
 
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Estimdo,

Yo siempre me bajo el netinstall y lo configuro para que de boot por medio de 
un usb,
luego hago la instalacion basica

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/
                                            ia64

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Re: Debian testing

2013-12-21 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 21 Dec 2013 11:39:40 -0600, Elvin Rodriguez escribió:

 Buen dia!

Cuidado con el formato html...

 Hace poco tiempo atrás pase de la versión estable a la testing y el
 problema que he tenido es que se me queda pegada la interfaz gráfica y
 no puedo restablecerla ni con(ctrl+alt+f1) service gdm3 restart.

Si puedes saltar a una consola ¿has probado con un init 1?

 Alguien ha tenido el mismo problema o puede solucionarlo?

Si por pegada quieres decir que se queda congelada lo primero que 
tendrías que comprobar es si se trata efectivamente de un bloqueo del 
servidor gráfico o un problema con el kernel.

Cuando se que te quede colgado de nuevo, intenta acceder al equipo desde 
otro ordenador a través de SSH y si puedes acceder al equipo congelado 
entonces es que efectivamente se trata de las X en cuyo caso convendría 
que dieras más información de tu hardware como la tarjeta gráfica que 
usas, el driver que tienes cargado y el contenido completo del archivo /
var/log/Xorg.0.log que puedes subir a www.pastebin.com.

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[OFF TOPIC] Emails vacíos masivos

2013-12-21 Thread CruxoM

Hola gente:

Desde hoy me está ocurriendo algo curioso: en tres cuentas de gmail que 
tengo distintas me están llegando email vacíos de a miles...


Lo único que tienen en común los tres en la fuente de mensaje es esto:

Delivered-To: crux@gmail.com

Por lo que veo en google no encuentro nada sobre envíos masivos con 
estas características.


Alguién tiene idea que puede llegar a ser ?
La verdad que son bastantes molestos estos correos.

Gracias y saludos.

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Re: [OFF TOPIC] Emails vacíos masivos

2013-12-21 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:39:04 -0300, CruxoM escribió:

 Hola gente:
 
 Desde hoy me está ocurriendo algo curioso: en tres cuentas de gmail que
 tengo distintas me están llegando email vacíos de a miles...

¿En formato texto o html? 

Si son html es posible que lleven código oculto, mira a ver el código 
fuente de los correos y por supuesto, el contenido de la cabecera.

 Lo único que tienen en común los tres en la fuente de mensaje es esto:
 
 Delivered-To: crux@gmail.com
 
 Por lo que veo en google no encuentro nada sobre envíos masivos con
 estas características.
 
 Alguién tiene idea que puede llegar a ser ?
 La verdad que son bastantes molestos estos correos.

No me ha llegado ninguno de esas características pero puede tratarse 
perfectamente de un error del robot que manda el spam, no sería la 
primera vez que veo correos deformados (es lo que pasa cuando se contrata 
mano de obra barata :-P).

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Re: dkim-filter

2013-12-21 Thread Víctor J . Chamorro
Yo ahora utilizo open-dkim, su funcionamiento es muy similar

Un saludo


Re: [OFF TOPIC] Emails vacíos masivos

2013-12-21 Thread Francisco Antonio


 - Mensaje original -
 De: Camaleón
 Enviado: 21-12-13 15:44
 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Emails vacíos masivos
 
 El Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:39:04 -0300, CruxoM escribió:
 
  Hola gente:
  
  Desde hoy me está ocurriendo algo curioso: en tres cuentas de gmail que
  tengo distintas me están llegando email vacíos de a miles...
 
 ¿En formato texto o html? 
 
 Si son html es posible que lleven código oculto, mira a ver el código 
 fuente de los correos y por supuesto, el contenido de la cabecera.
 
  Lo único que tienen en común los tres en la fuente de mensaje es esto:
  
  Delivered-To: crux@gmail.com
  
  Por lo que veo en google no encuentro nada sobre envíos masivos con
  estas características.
  
  Alguién tiene idea que puede llegar a ser ?
  La verdad que son bastantes molestos estos correos.
 
 No me ha llegado ninguno de esas características pero puede tratarse 
 perfectamente de un error del robot que manda el spam, no sería la 
 primera vez que veo correos deformados (es lo que pasa cuando se contrata 
 mano de obra barata :-P).
 
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Error con audio

2013-12-21 Thread Ricardo Osorio L.
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Hola lista, limpie mi Debian whezzy con Bleachbit y después de
reiniciar el sonido ya no funciona, desinstale y reinstale pulseaudio
y nada, de antemano gracias.
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Re: Error con audio

2013-12-21 Thread Ariel Martin Bellio

El 21/12/2013 06:48 p.m., Ricardo Osorio L. escribió:

Hola lista, limpie mi Debian whezzy con Bleachbit y después de
reiniciar el sonido ya no funciona, desinstale y reinstale pulseaudio
y nada, de antemano gracias.


¿Verificaste si tenés alsa?

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Could not find kernel image

2013-12-21 Thread Thomas Dahlén
Jag testar Debian 7.3 på den nya Intel NUC D54250WYK vilket inte går så bra
så om någon har lite goda råd tar jag tacksamt emot det!

Installationsprogrammet hittar inte nätverkskortet som jag tror bör vara
Intel I218V (Gigabit e1000), (jag testade att göra en windows
7-installation för att försäkra mig om att det inte är hårdvaruproblem, har
även gjort en bios-uppgradering).  Jag går vidare utan nätverkskort i
installationen med tanken att fixa detta senare, har inte gjort det förut
men antar att det borde vara i /etc/modprobe.d/example.conf  - alias
eth0 e1000
Utan att ha löst problemet med nätverkskortet startar jag systemet efter
installationen, jag får  följande felmeddelande:

SYSLINUX 4.06
ERROR: No configuration file found
No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found!
boot:

Om jag skriver något efter boot: får jag felmeddelandet Could not find
kernel image:

Är det någon som förstår hur jag kommer runt detta. Är det någon annan som
testat Linux på en NUC?

Mvh
Thomas
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Re: Could not find kernel image

2013-12-21 Thread Anders Jackson
Hej, God Jul.

Den 21 dec 2013 11:14 skrev Thomas Dahlén erikthomasdah...@gmail.com:

 Jag testar Debian 7.3 på den nya Intel NUC D54250WYK vilket inte går så
bra så om någon har lite goda råd tar jag tacksamt emot det!

Finns det stöd för den enheten? Kanske prova testning istället, med nyare
kärna?

 Installationsprogrammet hittar inte nätverkskortet som jag tror bör vara
Intel I218V (Gigabit e1000), (jag testade att göra en windows
7-installation för att försäkra mig om att det inte är hårdvaruproblem, har
även gjort en bios-uppgradering).  Jag går vidare utan nätverkskort i
installationen med tanken att fixa detta senare, har inte gjort det förut
men antar att det borde vara i /etc/modprobe.d/example.conf  - alias
eth0 e1000

Under installationen byt till konsol 2 (eller ett) med C-F2 och kör lspci
för att se exakt vilken enhet det är. Sök sedan på Google efter id-numret
på Ethernet-enheten. Det är ett par med 16-bitars hextal med : mellan. Du
kan även skicka in det här så är sannolikheten att någon kan hjälpa dig
större.
 Utan att ha löst problemet med nätverkskortet startar jag systemet efter
installationen, jag får  följande felmeddelande:

 SYSLINUX 4.06
 ERROR: No configuration file found
 No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found!
 boot:

Hem, konstigt.

 Om jag skriver något efter boot: får jag felmeddelandet Could not find
kernel image:

Verkar som installationen av kerneln misslyckats. Fick du något meddelande
om det på slutet av installationen?

 Är det någon som förstår hur jag kommer runt detta. Är det någon annan
som testat Linux på en NUC?

Har inte provat den.

 Mvh
 Thomas
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Twitter Client para Gnome 3

2013-12-21 Thread Debian Dicas
Olá,

Alguém conhece um twitter client legal para instalar no Debian Wheezy -
Gnome 3?

Usava no Debian Squeeze o Twitux, só que pesquisando pelo Wheezy
(# apt-cache search twitter) parece que tiraram do repositório e não possui
nenhum que interessei ou não funcionou com este Hotot.

Tem o Choqok, mas não quero instalar bibliotecas do KDE no Gnome.

Obrigado e ate mais!


Re: Twitter Client para Gnome 3

2013-12-21 Thread Greyson Farias
Coringao,

Você já tentou o polly?

*Greyson Farias da Silva*
Técnico em Operação de redes - CREA/AC 9329TD
Eu prefiro receber documentos em ODFhttp://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
.
http://about.me/greysonfarias



Em 21 de dezembro de 2013 19:09, Debian Dicas
corin...@debiandicas.orgescreveu:

 Olá,

 Alguém conhece um twitter client legal para instalar no Debian Wheezy -
 Gnome 3?

 Usava no Debian Squeeze o Twitux, só que pesquisando pelo Wheezy
 (# apt-cache search twitter) parece que tiraram do repositório e não possui
 nenhum que interessei ou não funcionou com este Hotot.

 Tem o Choqok, mas não quero instalar bibliotecas do KDE no Gnome.

 Obrigado e ate mais!




Re: Twitter Client para Gnome 3

2013-12-21 Thread Debian Dicas
Hmm.. este não conheço, pelo visto também não possui no repositório do
debian, mas irei testar pegando o pacote no launchpad.

Obrigadão amigão!


Em 21 de dezembro de 2013 22:30, Greyson Farias
greysonsi...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Coringao,

 Você já tentou o polly?

 *Greyson Farias da Silva*
 Técnico em Operação de redes - CREA/AC 9329TD
 Eu prefiro receber documentos em 
 ODFhttp://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
 .
 http://about.me/greysonfarias



 Em 21 de dezembro de 2013 19:09, Debian Dicas 
 corin...@debiandicas.orgescreveu:

 Olá,

 Alguém conhece um twitter client legal para instalar no Debian Wheezy -
 Gnome 3?

 Usava no Debian Squeeze o Twitux, só que pesquisando pelo Wheezy
 (# apt-cache search twitter) parece que tiraram do repositório e não possui
 nenhum que interessei ou não funcionou com este Hotot.

 Tem o Choqok, mas não quero instalar bibliotecas do KDE no Gnome.

 Obrigado e ate mais!





Re: Twitter Client para Gnome 3

2013-12-21 Thread Debian Dicas
Amigao.. obrigado!

Gostei deste Polly, vou utiliza-lo.  ;)

http://postimg.org/image/azlya9sld/

Ate mais!



Em 21 de dezembro de 2013 22:41, Debian Dicas
corin...@debiandicas.orgescreveu:

 Hmm.. este não conheço, pelo visto também não possui no repositório do
 debian, mas irei testar pegando o pacote no launchpad.

 Obrigadão amigão!


 Em 21 de dezembro de 2013 22:30, Greyson Farias 
 greysonsi...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Coringao,

 Você já tentou o polly?

 *Greyson Farias da Silva*
 Técnico em Operação de redes - CREA/AC 9329TD
 Eu prefiro receber documentos em 
 ODFhttp://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
 .
 http://about.me/greysonfarias



 Em 21 de dezembro de 2013 19:09, Debian Dicas 
 corin...@debiandicas.orgescreveu:

 Olá,

 Alguém conhece um twitter client legal para instalar no Debian Wheezy -
 Gnome 3?

 Usava no Debian Squeeze o Twitux, só que pesquisando pelo Wheezy
 (# apt-cache search twitter) parece que tiraram do repositório e não possui
 nenhum que interessei ou não funcionou com este Hotot.

 Tem o Choqok, mas não quero instalar bibliotecas do KDE no Gnome.

 Obrigado e ate mais!






Re: Elthnic TRALNNY Gtets Abss Lpicked

2013-12-21 Thread Ruben Caro



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Re: Installing Debian 7.3.0

2013-12-21 Thread Joe
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:57:42 -0500
Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:


 
Its
current OS is windows. Then I chose CD ROM drive as the
first boot system on the laptop and inserted the CD and
restarted the PC. It tried to run the CD, but Linux
didn't come up and after few seconds windows booted up.


 
  You cannot just copy the iso to CD as a data file.  You need to
  burn the iso as an image for it to be bootable.  I have no idea how
  to do that with Windows apps.  With those specs you probably want a
  minimal desktop environment.  I suggest avoiding Gnome and KDE as
  they are resource hogs.
 
 To burn an iso image to a cd  or dvd in Windows, first download a
 free file called CDCC from this place
 
 http://burncdcc.en.softonic.com/
 
 and install it to your Windows machine. It *only* burns iso files, so 
 you can't screw up!
 

Most Windows systems have a limited version of Nero or Roxio disc
writing software installed. They will burn ISOs, but it may take a
little time to find out how, the main usage of them is just burning
files.

If such software is installed, just double-clicking on a .iso file
*may* be enough to start it off.

 When you have it installed, just snap on the icon, and point it at
 your downloaded iso. Put a blank disk
 --in this case, a DVD--into your drive and let 'er rip!  (I'm pretty 
 sure the Debian distro is too big to fit
 on a CD.)
 

Debian comes in several ways, including multiple CDs, of which Disc 1
is enough to get a working system running.

256MB is a little on the light side, as others have said. You need to
go back to Win2000 to find a Windows version that runs comfortably in
that. XP did at first, but updates have increased its requirements.

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Re: how to upgrade only from stable.

2013-12-21 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks Bo lan ,Rob Owens and all others for your input.





Re: Installing Debian 7.3.0 more

2013-12-21 Thread Alireza Bahrami
Dear Doug,
 
Thanks for your directives.
As you advised, I downloaded CDCC and burnt the iso image on a CD. The CD was 
enough for it. 
this time it worked when I inserted the Cd into the Dell lap.
 
Thanks  Regards
Alireza



From: Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Installing Debian 7.3.0 more


On 12/21/2013 01:57 AM, Doug wrote:
 On 12/21/2013 01:47 AM, Go Linux wrote:
 On Sat, 12/21/13, Alireza Bahrami a_bahra...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Subject: Installing Debian 7.3.0
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Date: Saturday, December 21, 2013, 12:29 AM
      Hi,
      I'm
  an Iranian electronic engineer focused on industrial
  automation projects. After some years of work
  experience I've come to the conclusion that I should
  learn linux for doing my projects in a more efficent
  way.  Unfortunately I don't know any thing about it
  and I'm completely new. The first step of course is
  installing it. Here I don't have access to any Debian OS
  distributor to buy the CDs from, so I downloaded 
 debian-7.3.0-i386-CD-1.iso sized
  648MB and copied it on a CD.  According to
  Debian website it's enough for installing Debian on
  a system. There is an old Dell Latitude laptop with
  specs as below which I chose to for this purpose:
      Mobile Pentium4: 1.8GHz
  CPU
  Speed: 1.8GHz
  Level
  2 Cache: 512KB
  System Memory: 256MB
  Video
  Memory: 32MB
  Hard
  Drive: 40GB
      Its
  current OS is windows. Then I chose CD ROM drive as the
  first boot system on the laptop and inserted the CD and
  restarted the PC. It tried to run the CD, but Linux
  didn't come up and after few seconds windows booted up.
    First
  I thought it was due to a bios setup, so I tried the CD with
  a desktop pc. Again I had the same problem.
  Is there any one who could Kindly give me some
  directives to overcome this problem.
      -

 You cannot just copy the iso to CD as a data file.  You need to burn 
 the iso as an image for it to be bootable.  I have no idea how to do 
 that with Windows apps.  With those specs you probably want a minimal 
 desktop environment.  I suggest avoiding Gnome and KDE as they are 
 resource hogs.

 To burn an iso image to a cd  or dvd in Windows, first download a free 
 file called CDCC from this place

 http://burncdcc.en.softonic.com/

 and install it to your Windows machine. It *only* burns iso files, so 
 you can't screw up!

 When you have it installed, just snap on the icon, and point it at 
 your downloaded iso. Put a blank disk
 --in this case, a DVD--into your drive and let 'er rip!  (I'm pretty 
 sure the Debian distro is too big to fit
 on a CD.)

 --doug



You can probably put more memory into your Dell lap. This will be 
important with a large dsitro like debian, or any of the
modern main-stream do-it-all distros. I would guess, without looking at 
the manual, you could put 2GB memory into the
machine, but you might have to put two 1GB cards. There is the 
possibility that you could put just one 2GB card in.
(I put 4GB into a Dell Inspiron, on two 2GB cards, altho the manual says 
it will only take 2GB. This allows me to use up
to 3.3GB or so.) 


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Re: Distro upgrade

2013-12-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 19 dec 13, 10:23:35, John Hasler wrote:
 Read and follow the release notes and you'll be ok.

For Jessie? They don't exist yet.

Kind regards,
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Re: Distro upgrade

2013-12-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 19 dec 13, 18:39:07, John Hasler wrote:
 
 There is no need for him to track Jessie once he has upgraded enough
 to run his program.  Just read the security list and upgrade individual
 packages as needed.

This smells like dependency hell.

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Re: Install on HP Elitebook 8460p

2013-12-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 20 dec 13, 23:35:25, Kostadin Slavkov wrote:
 
 I am not sure why can not boot from install media. I use iso-dvd from next 
 link
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ia64/iso-dvd/
 ^^^
Wrong image, unless your laptop has an Itanium[1] processor ;)
You probably want the amd64 image instead.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium

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Re: Backports pinning

2013-12-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 22:24 +, Tom H wrote:
 apt-cache policy

Thank you, that's a useful command :).

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Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Ali ISIN
Hi,

My name is Ali, and I am a spoiled user of Debian.

Debian is smooth and fast.
Debian is sober and really what I expect from an operating system.

But, that's not why I write to you:

Since the 7.x version does my computer freeze;
and that after installing GRUB and rebooting.

My system seem to work correctly but I thougth to inform you.



A. ISIN
Student

NB: I use Multimedia PC MEDION® AKOYA® P7350 D (MD8860) with only
Debian as OS.


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Re: Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Don't inform the list, report a bug ;).


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Re: Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Bo Lan
 Since the 7.x version does my computer freeze;
 and that after installing GRUB and rebooting.

Installing GRUB and rebooting is the last process of installation, but
your information is not enough, so we can hardly help. 

Do you mean that, it cannot be shut down, or it cannot boot? What was
the information on your screen?

 My system seem to work correctly but I thougth to inform you.

Do you mean you have already found a workaround? If yes, how did you fix
it?

Like what Ralf Mardorf said, if you think it is a bug, you can consider
to report it. For more information about bug reporting, please read:
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

Sincerely,
Bo


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Re: Installing Debian 7.3.0 more

2013-12-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 12/21/2013 2:23 AM, Doug wrote:

On 12/21/2013 01:57 AM, Doug wrote:

On 12/21/2013 01:47 AM, Go Linux wrote:

On Sat, 12/21/13, Alireza Bahrami a_bahra...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Subject: Installing Debian 7.3.0
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Date: Saturday, December 21, 2013, 12:29 AM
  Hi,
 I'm
  an Iranian electronic engineer focused on industrial
  automation projects. After some years of work
  experience I've come to the conclusion that I should
  learn linux for doing my projects in a more efficent
  way.  Unfortunately I don't know any thing about it
  and I'm completely new. The first step of course is
  installing it. Here I don't have access to any Debian OS
  distributor to buy the CDs from, so I downloaded
debian-7.3.0-i386-CD-1.iso sized
  648MB and copied it on a CD.  According to
  Debian website it's enough for installing Debian on
  a system. There is an old Dell Latitude laptop with
  specs as below which I chose to for this purpose:
 Mobile Pentium4: 1.8GHz
  CPU
  Speed: 1.8GHz
  Level
  2 Cache: 512KB
  System Memory: 256MB
  Video
  Memory: 32MB
  Hard
  Drive: 40GB
 Its
  current OS is windows. Then I chose CD ROM drive as the
  first boot system on the laptop and inserted the CD and
  restarted the PC. It tried to run the CD, but Linux
  didn't come up and after few seconds windows booted up.
First
  I thought it was due to a bios setup, so I tried the CD with
  a desktop pc. Again I had the same problem.
  Is there any one who could Kindly give me some
  directives to overcome this problem.
 -

You cannot just copy the iso to CD as a data file.  You need to burn
the iso as an image for it to be bootable.  I have no idea how to do
that with Windows apps.  With those specs you probably want a minimal
desktop environment.  I suggest avoiding Gnome and KDE as they are
resource hogs.


To burn an iso image to a cd  or dvd in Windows, first download a free
file called CDCC from this place

http://burncdcc.en.softonic.com/

and install it to your Windows machine. It *only* burns iso files, so
you can't screw up!

When you have it installed, just snap on the icon, and point it at
your downloaded iso. Put a blank disk
--in this case, a DVD--into your drive and let 'er rip!  (I'm pretty
sure the Debian distro is too big to fit
on a CD.)

--doug






You can probably put more memory into your Dell lap. This will be
important with a large dsitro like debian, or any of the
modern main-stream do-it-all distros. I would guess, without looking at
the manual, you could put 2GB memory into the
machine, but you might have to put two 1GB cards. There is the
possibility that you could put just one 2GB card in.
(I put 4GB into a Dell Inspiron, on two 2GB cards, altho the manual says
it will only take 2GB. This allows me to use up
to 3.3GB or so.)

--doug




He's running Windows on this - Debian should fly in comparison!  512Mb 
is quite enough for a lot of people.  Heck, I've got a Debian VPS 
running Apache and MySQL with only 512MB - and that's plenty of memory 
for even a moderately active web server (with several sites).


Not a gamer's machine, of course - but not everyone needs that much.

Jerry


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Re: Installing Debian 7.3.0

2013-12-21 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:29:40PM -0800, Alireza Bahrami wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm an Iranian electronic engineer focused on industrial automation projects. 
 After some years of work experience I've come to the conclusion that I should 
 learn linux for doing my projects in a more efficent way.  Unfortunately I 
 don't know any thing about it and I'm completely new. The first step of 
 course is installing it. Here I don't have access to any Debian OS 
 distributor to buy the CDs from, so I downloaded debian-7.3.0-i386-CD-1.iso 
 sized 648MB and copied it on a CD.  According to Debian website it's enough 
 for installing Debian on a system. There is an old Dell Latitude laptop with 
 specs as below which I chose to for this purpose:
 
 Mobile Pentium4: 1.8GHz
 CPU Speed: 1.8GHz
 Level 2 Cache: 512KB
 System Memory: 256MB
 Video Memory: 32MB
 Hard Drive: 40GB
 
Since you've got only 256MB of system memory, I recommend you use a
lightweight desktop such as LXDE.  When you boot off of the installation
CD, don't select Install.  Instead, select Advanced and then
Alternative Desktop Environments (or something like that).  Then I
believe you select Back until you're at the main menu again.  Then
select Install.

The desktop environment is what you see when you're using the computer.
Unlike Windows, Linux has many choices of desktop environment.  Some
have more features, but require more system resources.  Some, like LXDE,
are designed to be lightweight while still providing you with all the
basic functionality you would expect to have.

-Rob


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Re: Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Robin
Assuming it should be booting to a graphical login screen, hit Ctrl-Alt-F1
which will take you to a text console which may show some errors that you
can post here.

rob


On 21 December 2013 12:58, Ali ISIN a.i...@live.be wrote:

 Hi,

 My name is Ali, and I am a spoiled user of Debian.

 Debian is smooth and fast.
 Debian is sober and really what I expect from an operating system.

 But, that's not why I write to you:

 Since the 7.x version does my computer freeze;
 and that after installing GRUB and rebooting.

 My system seem to work correctly but I thougth to inform you.



 A. ISIN
 Student

 NB: I use Multimedia PC MEDION® AKOYA® P7350 D (MD8860) with only
 Debian as OS.


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How to load non-free firmware driver

2013-12-21 Thread Robert Parker
Returning to Debian after a few years with Ubuntu.

I have a USB wifi dongle which does not work.
dmesg gives me 'agent aborted loading htc_9271.fw(not found?)'
I do have that driver because I downloaded the non-free firmware tarball on
anothe machine.

My question is, where do I install this firmware?

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Re: How to load non-free firmware driver

2013-12-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-12-21 16:44 +0100, Robert Parker wrote:

 I have a USB wifi dongle which does not work.
 dmesg gives me 'agent aborted loading htc_9271.fw(not found?)'
 I do have that driver because I downloaded the non-free firmware tarball on
 anothe machine.

It is also contained in the firmware-atheros package (in non-free).

 My question is, where do I install this firmware?

Put it into /lib/firmware.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Install on HP Elitebook 8460p

2013-12-21 Thread Kostadin Slavkov
Yes, I found that a hour after my post. Sorry for unnecessary topic.
I installed write image and every thing work.

Thank you and best regards

Sent from my iPad

 On 21.12.2013, at 14:50, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Vi, 20 dec 13, 23:35:25, Kostadin Slavkov wrote:
 
 I am not sure why can not boot from install media. I use iso-dvd from next 
 link
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ia64/iso-dvd/
 ^^^
 Wrong image, unless your laptop has an Itanium[1] processor ;)
 You probably want the amd64 image instead.
 
 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium
 
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Re: Installing Debian 7.3.0

2013-12-21 Thread Jeff Bauer

On 12/21/2013 09:10 AM, Rob Owens wrote:

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:29:40PM -0800, Alireza Bahrami wrote:

According to Debian website it's enough for installing Debian on a system. 
There is an old Dell Latitude laptop with specs as below which I chose to for 
this purpose:

Mobile Pentium4: 1.8GHz
CPU Speed: 1.8GHz
Level 2 Cache: 512KB
System Memory: 256MB
Video Memory: 32MB
Hard Drive: 40GB


Since you've got only 256MB of system memory, I recommend you use a
lightweight desktop such as LXDE.


A lightweight window manager that would be a smooth transition for those 
familiar with Windows 95/98 vintage OS's would be JWM, aka Joe's Window 
Manager.


http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/jwm

A companion file manager could be ROX-filer:

http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/rox-filer

And yes, Puppy Linux was one of my stepping stones to Debian   ;)



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Re: How to load non-free firmware driver

2013-12-21 Thread Robert Parker
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:

 On 2013-12-21 16:44 +0100, Robert Parker wrote:

  I have a USB wifi dongle which does not work.
  dmesg gives me 'agent aborted loading htc_9271.fw(not found?)'
  I do have that driver because I downloaded the non-free firmware tarball
 on
  anothe machine.

 It is also contained in the firmware-atheros package (in non-free).

  My question is, where do I install this firmware?

 Put it into /lib/firmware.

  Thanks Sven,


Driver issue solved.

But now when I connect to my wirelees access point it gives me a
'connecting'  message and finally connects only to immediately drop out and
start connecting all over again.

My access point is unsecured, I don't know if that has any bearing on the
problem.

Bob

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fail2ban fails to ban apache...

2013-12-21 Thread François Patte
Bonjour,

I try to configure fail2ban in order to ban IP which try to connect to
directories protected by .htaccess.

Here is my [apache] section in jail.conf:

enabled  = true
port = http,https
filter   = apache-auth
logpath  = /var/log/apache*/*error.log
maxretry = 3

But I tested filling the auth form with erroneous login/password and
nothing happens! Nothing appeared in /var/log/fail2ban.log...

I tried the same for ssh connections and the IP of the computer from
which I tried was banned after the third attempt.

What is missing in my config?


Here is the ssh section in jail.conf:

enabled  = true
port = ssh
filter   = sshd
logpath  = /var/log/auth.log
maxretry = 6



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Re: Using the spare space on a bootable USB

2013-12-21 Thread Chris Davies
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 This technique should not be required to be used ; the stick with the
 dd'ed image should boot directly. Does it not?

According to the OP it does, but it's irrelevant to the question that
they asked.

Chris


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Re: Using the spare space on a bootable USB

2013-12-21 Thread Brian
On Sat 21 Dec 2013 at 16:13:28 +, Chris Davies wrote:

 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
  This technique should not be required to be used ; the stick with the
  dd'ed image should boot directly. Does it not?
 
 According to the OP it does, but it's irrelevant to the question that
 they asked.

Sometimes my reading skills desert me. It would be nice to be pointed to
the question asked in the message I responded to.


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Re: Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Brian
On Sat 21 Dec 2013 at 14:38:30 +, Robin wrote:

 Assuming it should be booting to a graphical login screen, hit Ctrl-Alt-F1
 which will take you to a text console which may show some errors that you
 can post here.

By default the screen is cleared of boot messages, There is only a login
prompt.


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Re: Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Shawn Wilson


Ali ISIN a.i...@live.be wrote:
Hi,


Since the 7.x version does my computer freeze;

In what way? No more messages are logged? Doesn't respond to pings? SysRq 
doesn't reboot it (is the kernel totally hosed)?

and that after installing GRUB and rebooting.

My system seem to work correctly but I thougth to inform you.

Installing or upgrading? If you copy the first, say, 448 bytes (I think that's 
right - 512-64 but it doesn't matter) to a file and then copy it back, does the 
same thing happen as with grub-install (grub-install has helper scripts to 
figure out things and it might be an issue with something done in there).


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Re: How do I mount mmc card so that a non-root user has write access?

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Lawrence Galka wrote:
 I am running debian wheezy with the lxde desktop environment.  When I
 insert a mmc card,  it gets detected as /dev/mmcblk0p1 and mounted in
 /media/blah.  Unfortunately, the /media/blah directory is owned by root
 and other users do not have write permission. When I try to copy files to
 this card it throws a permissions error. How do I configure the system to
 allow a non-root user to insert a mmc card and obtain write access to the
 mmc?

Question.  There are (at least) two different ways to mount removable
media.

1) Is there an entry in /etc/fstab for it?  If so does it have the
user flag on it?  Here is a typical entry for a cdrom showing the
user flag.  And a custom entry after it also showing the flag but
that entry isn't a standard one.

  /dev/cdrom  /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
  /dev/sdg1   /media/usbdisk  autouser,noauto,noatime 0 0

The user flag is what allows the mount to happen as the user
invoking the mount command.  In which case the owership and permission
is the same as that of the invoking user.

2) If nothing like the above /etc/fstab entry exists then some desktop
session daemon is automatically mounting the media for you upon
insertion.  Such as the gnome-volume-manager.  In which case you would
need to find out which daemon is doing it and configure it.

Bob


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Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Jon N
I recently installed Jessie on a new computer.  Now that I have the
system up and running I decided that I would like to have a different
hostname than the rather unimaginative  'localhost-01' I picked during
install.  I used the mate-network-admin utility to change it, and
checked /etc/hostname and saw that the change was reflected there
also.

Then I rebooted.  The display manager wouldn't load, leaving me with
an almost blank screen (there was a blinking cursor in the upper left
corner).  I switched to another virtual terminal, edited /etc/hostname
back and was able to boot normally.  Although when I just opened
mate-network-admin again it still had the new name in there.
Apparently mate-network-manager changes /etc/hostname, but changing
/etc/hostname doesn't reverse it completely??? (I'm thinking I must
have done something wrong, because that doesn't make sense).

Anyway, the main question is, how do i change the hostname for my system?

I did do some searching online, and so far I found that I have to change:

/etc/hostname
/etc/hosts

then run the command

sysctl kernel hostname=NEW_HOSTNAME.

There were also directions on how to change config files for some
specific packages.  Am I missing anything?

Thanks,
Jon


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Re: Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote:
 On Sat 21 Dec 2013 at 14:38:30 +, Robin wrote:
 
  Assuming it should be booting to a graphical login screen, hit Ctrl-Alt-F1
  which will take you to a text console which may show some errors that you
  can post here.
 
 By default the screen is cleared of boot messages, There is only a login
 prompt.

Yes.  Between util-linux 2.17.2-9 and 2.20.1-4 getty has changed and
it now clears the screen.  This seems like a good thing on the surface
until you find out that it destroys the boot time messages including
any errors that are on the screen at the time.  To prevent this a new
option --noclear has appeared.  Editing the /etc/inittab to add the
--noclear option to getty will prevent the new screen clearing
behavior and allow the error messages there to be seen.

1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty --noclear 38400 tty1

Also in Wheezy 7 the bootlogd is broken out into a separate package.
If you want bootlogs in /var/log as it was in Squeezy 6 then you need
to install the new package.

apt-get install bootlogd

The changelog for the package says:

 sysvinit-utils (2.88dsf-17) unstable; urgency=low

  bootlogd has moved from sysvinit-utils to a separate bootlogd package. If
  you wish to continue using bootlogd, please install the bootlogd package.
  Note that the configuration file /etc/default/bootlogd and its option
  BOOTLOGD_ENABLE no longer exist; if you do not wish to run bootlogd, remove
  the bootlogd package.

 -- Josh Triplett   Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:03:08 +

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Re: Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Robin
On 21 December 2013 17:47, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Sat 21 Dec 2013 at 14:38:30 +, Robin wrote:

  Assuming it should be booting to a graphical login screen, hit
 Ctrl-Alt-F1
  which will take you to a text console which may show some errors that you
  can post here.

 By default the screen is cleared of boot messages, There is only a login
 prompt.

 Depends when it froze. Won't there be xorg errors if it's a graphics
driver problem?
My sid install is 3.5 years old so I may be out of date:)
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Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Brian
On Sat 21 Dec 2013 at 13:45:11 -0500, Jon N wrote:

 Anyway, the main question is, how do i change the hostname for my system?

I would edit /etc/hostname and change 'foo' to 'bar'

Then (because networking will now be confused), edit /etc/hosts and
change instances of 'foo' to 'bar'.


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Re: How to load non-free firmware driver

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Robert Parker wrote:
 But now when I connect to my wirelees access point it gives me a
 'connecting' message and finally connects only to immediately drop
 out and start connecting all over again.

What configuration are you using to connect to it?  Are there any
clues to the problem in /var/log/syslog around the problem?  Basically
unless we see something it isn't going to be possible to help.  (And
unfortunately since you are the one seeing the problem it may not be
possible for us to guess correctly at the reason anyway.)

 My access point is unsecured, I don't know if that has any bearing
 on the problem.

In theory it shouldn't.  But the difference between theory and
practice is the difference between theory and practice.  Your device
is an Atheros and that has a good reputation.  YMMV.  Always worked
well for me.

There are several steps in the WiFi connection process.  Off the top
of my head:

1. Associate.
2. If DHCP is configured then perform DHCP protocol.

If your wifi is associating and immediately disassociating then there
could be a problem with the driver.  Try unloading and reloading the
driver.  This sometimes works for me and others on the list have
reported it similar.

  rmmod drivername ; sleep 1 ; modprobe drivername

If the wifi is associating okay then it will typically DHCP.  (Unless
a static configuration has been chosen.)  If the DHCP fails then the
device will be deconfigured.  If the device associates then it should
be able to transmit and receive dhcp packets.  If this is prevented
then dhcp will fail and the device will be deconfigured.  The dhcp
might fail if the device is not tranfering dhcp packets properly.  Or
if a firewall is blocking those packets.  If you have a firewall then
try the connection with the firewall disabled.

I often use tcpdump to try to capture the dhcp protocol but this is
trickier since the device is always going up and down.  For tcpdump
use the device any to listten to any configured network.  Another
useful tool is 'dhcpdump'.  But usually if packets are being
transfered then it will work and if packets are not being transferred
then it won't work.

It is also possible for all to work okay on the client end but to have
the dhcp on the server end to fail.  A typical failure configuration
is to have too few dynamic IP addresses available on the pool.  For
example one open wifi access point that I know at one of the local
airports has only 25 IP addresses in the pool.  It allocates those
addresses for 24 hours.  At 6am in the morning you can associate and
get an IP address.  By 10am in the morning all of the 25 IP addresses
have been allocated and leased for 24 hours.  They will not free up
again until the next day.  This is a misconfiguration of the wifi
access point's dhcp server configuration for the task that it is
trying to do but it creates this behavior of not being able to get
wifi access from it due to a server configuration issue even though
the client is okay.  (Workaround hack: If you know the configuration
then you can bypass DHCP and set a static configuration for it.)

This next item I am going to mention isn't really associated
particularly with wifi.  The DHCP will transfer routing information.
That is usually always good.  The DHCP will transfer nameserver
information.  This is sometimes troublesome.  If the nameserver is
broken then it leads to a confusing situation where the network
connection is established but no names can be looked up.  Since humans
generally deal with names it makes it appear as if the network is both
up and down at the same time.  If you hear people suggesting a
particular known good nameserver such as 8.8.8.8 that is the problem
they are addressing.  However I believe it is better to fix the real
underlying problem rather than work around it.

Good luck!
Bob


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Re: Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Brian
On Sat 21 Dec 2013 at 12:01:52 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:

 Brian wrote:
  
  By default the screen is cleared of boot messages, There is only a login
  prompt.
 
 Yes.  Between util-linux 2.17.2-9 and 2.20.1-4 getty has changed and
 it now clears the screen.  This seems like a good thing on the surface
 until you find out that it destroys the boot time messages including
 any errors that are on the screen at the time.  To prevent this a new

The screen clearing was implemented by upstream as a response to
concerns about security. Debian itself has never done it.

 option --noclear has appeared.  Editing the /etc/inittab to add the
 --noclear option to getty will prevent the new screen clearing
 behavior and allow the error messages there to be seen.
 
 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty --noclear 38400 tty1

This is one of the first things I do on any install ; I prefer the
traditional way.
 
 Also in Wheezy 7 the bootlogd is broken out into a separate package.
 If you want bootlogs in /var/log as it was in Squeezy 6 then you need
 to install the new package.
 
 apt-get install bootlogd
 
 The changelog for the package says:
 
  sysvinit-utils (2.88dsf-17) unstable; urgency=low
 
   bootlogd has moved from sysvinit-utils to a separate bootlogd package. If
   you wish to continue using bootlogd, please install the bootlogd package.
   Note that the configuration file /etc/default/bootlogd and its option
   BOOTLOGD_ENABLE no longer exist; if you do not wish to run bootlogd, remove
   the bootlogd package.

This lucid tip encourages me to consider including it as part of my
normal practice.


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Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi

On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 01:45:11PM -0500, Jon N wrote:
 I recently installed Jessie on a new computer.  Now that I have the
 system up and running I decided that I would like to have a different
 hostname than the rather unimaginative  'localhost-01' I picked during
 install.  I used the mate-network-admin utility to change it, and
 checked /etc/hostname and saw that the change was reflected there
 also.
 
 Then I rebooted.  The display manager wouldn't load, leaving me with
 an almost blank screen (there was a blinking cursor in the upper left
 corner).  I switched to another virtual terminal, edited /etc/hostname
 back and was able to boot normally.  Although when I just opened
 mate-network-admin again it still had the new name in there.
 Apparently mate-network-manager changes /etc/hostname, but changing
 /etc/hostname doesn't reverse it completely??? (I'm thinking I must
 have done something wrong, because that doesn't make sense).
 
 Anyway, the main question is, how do i change the hostname for my system?
 
 I did do some searching online, and so far I found that I have to change:
 
 /etc/hostname
 /etc/hosts
 
 then run the command
 
 sysctl kernel hostname=NEW_HOSTNAME.
 
 There were also directions on how to change config files for some
 specific packages.  Am I missing anything?

In general, if you're changing host name, *ALL* references to the old
name should be tweaked.

I would recommend:

  # sed --in-place=.bak -e 's/localhost-01/yournewname/g' $(grep -lr 
localhost-01 /etc)

(followed by a reboot to completely eradicate all memory of the old name).

Some packages, e.g. require additional attention here.

Hope this helps

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Re: Backports pinning

2013-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 22:24 +, Tom H wrote:

 apt-cache policy

 Thank you, that's a useful command :).

You're welcome.


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Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Jon N jdnandr...@gmail.com wrote:

 sysctl kernel hostname=NEW_HOSTNAME.

It's sysctl -w kernel.hostname=NEW_HOSTNAME.


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Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Stephen Powell
I am having trouble copying text from an xterm window into another application,
such as iceweasel, and vice versa.  When I was using GNOME, this worked fine
between gnome-terminal and other applications.  But I'm using XFCE now, and
xterm seems to be the default terminal emulator application under XFCE.

Before you tell me that Google is my friend, or some other trite brush-off
saying, let me tell you that I have done my homework on this.  I have searched
the internet.  I have learned about the difference between the PRIMARY buffer
and the CLIPBOARD buffer, I have learned about settings to put in .Xdefaults,
etc.  But none of the techniques I have found work for me.  I use a traditional
PS/2 mouse.  It has two, and only two, mouse buttons.  It has no thumbwheel.

Has anyone succeeded in getting this to work in a Debian XFCE environment?

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Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Jon N wrote:
 I recently installed Jessie on a new computer.  Now that I have the
 system up and running I decided that I would like to have a different
 hostname than the rather unimaginative  'localhost-01' I picked during
 install.  I used the mate-network-admin utility to change it, and
 checked /etc/hostname and saw that the change was reflected there
 also.

Changing the system hostname is a simple process.  But it depends upon
what is installed since often the hostname is embedded in the
configuration of a package.  For example the Postfix mail transport
agent needs to know the hostname in order for mail to work properly.
(I assume Exim does too but I don't run it and so don't know.)  So
does Apache.  And so forth.  Each of those packages that need to know
the hostname need to change.  Each of those changes are simple.  Just
make sure you look and change all of them.

Here are the places that need to be changed on every system.

  /etc/hosts
  /etc/hostname
  /etc/mailname

On systems running Postfix:

  /etc/postfix/main.cf

An unknown list of other files are possible depending upon what you
have installed and the configuration of those.  I would find them all
and change them.  Ignore binary files but note them as some files may
need to be recompiled and rebuilt.

  find /etc -type f -exec grep -l OLDHOSTNAME {} +

Typical files that you can ignore are encryption key .pub files.  The
hostname will be in the commend field and does not matter.  Ignore
them such as /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub or other ssh_host_*_key.pub
files.  Or change them if you want to be completely clean.  Doesn't
matter.  Also ignore any /etc/lvm/* files if you are using lvm.
Ignore /etc/aliases.db but feel free to run 'newaliases' afterward to
recreate it with the new name.  (I don't know why the Berkeley db
builds the hostname in the .db file.)

You will probably end up ignoring more files than you care about.  If
you see something that is obviously a hostname then update it.  If in
doubt ask on this list.  Someone will either know about it or will
know how to figure it out.

 Then I rebooted.

Good.  So many daemons need to be restarted that it isn't worth it
trying to avoid the reboot.  Possible yes but not worth it.

 The display manager wouldn't load, leaving me with
 an almost blank screen (there was a blinking cursor in the upper left
 corner).

What display manager are you using?  There are many available.  This
sounds like the display manager you have used has configured the
hostname into its configuration.  I personally have not seen that
problem with display managers before.

 I switched to another virtual terminal, edited /etc/hostname
 back and was able to boot normally.

Note that you were almost certainly booting normally before.  The
hostname will not prevent the system from booting.  But starting a
graphical login manager is NOT something most of us would consider as
critical to the system boot process.

It sounds like a small part of your system, the graphical login
manager, doesn't start.  It not starting does not invalidate all of
the rest of the system.  I realize that to you not having a mouse
might be catastrophic but really it is only a small part of the
system. :-)

You mentioned mate-network-admin so I assume you are running mate.
But I don't know if that implies gdm for the login manager or not.  Or
is there a mate fork equiv of it?  If it were me I would log in at the
Linux console and start it manually and look for error messages.

  login: root
  password: **
  root@localhost:~# service gdm restart
  ...possible errors might be seen here...

 Although when I just opened mate-network-admin again it still had
 the new name in there.  Apparently mate-network-manager changes
 /etc/hostname, but changing /etc/hostname doesn't reverse it
 completely???

Probably the mate-network-admin caches the answer you gave it and is
using the cached answer regardless of the actual system configuration.

 (I'm thinking I must have done something wrong, because that doesn't
 make sense).

I am thinking that you are using a opaque blackbox tool that doesn't
show what it is doing and therefore not learning anything useful about
the system.  Personally I despise those opaque wrapper blackbox tools
that try to make things easy for the user but keep them ignorant of
what is happening and prevent them from learning anything.  Everyone
who drives a car should know how to change a flat tire.  I believe
system adminstration is similar.

 Anyway, the main question is, how do i change the hostname for my system?

As described above.

 I did do some searching online, and so far I found that I have to change:
 
 /etc/hostname
 /etc/hosts

Certainly those files need to be changed.  But also other files too.
Look for the previous hostname and see what files contain it on your
system.  This is where setting a very unique hostname on a system is
easier than localhost which will be everywhere.  If the system name
is 

Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
 In general, if you're changing host name, *ALL* references to the old
 name should be tweaked.
 
 I would recommend:
 
   # sed --in-place=.bak -e 's/localhost-01/yournewname/g' $(grep -lr 
 localhost-01 /etc)

Good intention but that will corrupt many binary files.  Beware!  Here
are some interesting binary ones that I would not edit in place from
my system.

  /etc/.etckeeper
  /etc/.git/index
  /etc/aliases.db
  /etc/emacs23/site-start.d/00debian-vars.elc
  /etc/htdig/english.0
  /etc/lvm/archive/t4_0-1479803495.vg
  /etc/lvm/archive/v1_00024-177866804.vg
  /etc/lvm/backup/t4
  /etc/lvm/backup/v1
  /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd.db
  /etc/ssl/certs/java/cacerts

Every system would be different depending upon what is installed.

Plus the english.0 just happens to hit upon the word since my system
name is a word in the word list.  So it is an example of a file that
should not be changed.  But hopefully won't hit on localhost-01
either.

Bob


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Re: Installing Debian 7.3.0 more

2013-12-21 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 08:50:15AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

  ...snip..
 
 He's running Windows on this - Debian should fly in comparison!
 512Mb is quite enough for a lot of people.  Heck, I've got a Debian
 VPS running Apache and MySQL with only 512MB - and that's plenty of
 memory for even a moderately active web server (with several sites).

If he's a EE and going to use Debian for his work, he may be looking at
some serious number crunching. I would add RAM on general principles.

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Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Stephen Powell wrote:
 I am having trouble copying text from an xterm window into another
 application, such as iceweasel, and vice versa.  When I was using
 GNOME, this worked fine between gnome-terminal and other
 applications.  But I'm using XFCE now, and xterm seems to be the
 default terminal emulator application under XFCE.
 ...
 Has anyone succeeded in getting this to work in a Debian XFCE
 environment?

Works perfectly for me.  I use left-mouse drag for cut.  I use
right-mouse for extend.  I use middle-mouse for paste.  In both XTerm
and in Iceweasel and Chromium.  Except for extend which doesn't work
in the web browsers.  Extend only works in traditional X clients like
XTerm.

In the web browsers if you use C-c, C-x, C-v those operate on the
clipboard and not the primary selection and so will be mismatched.
But if you use left-mouse, right-mouse, (and middle-mouse in XTerm) in
both then both will use the primary selection.

 I have learned about the difference between the PRIMARY buffer and
 the CLIPBOARD buffer, I have learned about settings to put in
 .Xdefaults, etc.  But none of the techniques I have found work for
 me.

But this is configurable.  Since you have found this perhaps you have
configured it?

  $ xrdb -q | grep -i -e cut -e paste
  ...nothing for me...using the defaults...

In an XTerm control-middle-drag to see the menu.  I do not have Select
to Clipboard checked.

You said .Xdefaults.  Do you want the simple and short answer or the
long and detailed answer?  The short answer is don't use .Xdefaults
but use .Xresources with xrdb instead.  They are subtly different.  If
'xrdb -q' has any output then your .Xdefaults will be ignored.  Almost
every desktop session manager sets something in xrdb which will cause
the .Xdefaults to be ignored.  Ask if you want the longer explanation.
To be simple use xrdb to show what you have in memory.  What you see
there is what is there.  If you don't see it then it isn't there.

  $ xrdb -q | less

To make changes:

  $ $EDITOR .Xresources
  $ xrdb -m .Xresources  # merges your _additions_ with the current
Or:
  $ xrdb -l .Xresources  # loads your complete total set overwriting all

The choice of -m or -l depends upon if you want to merge or completely
overwrite.  For example I remember that with KDE it always wanted to
have its own settings elsewhere and so it was always -m merge when
using KDE.  But for example with fvwm where the user controls
everything then -l load and overwrite would be appropriate.

 I use a traditional PS/2 mouse.  It has two, and only two, mouse
 buttons.  It has no thumbwheel.

You said two mouse buttons.  In which case the default is to simulate
the middle button by pressing both left and right simultaneously.  X
emulates the three button mouse through the two button interface.  In
the old /etc/X11/xorg.conf file this would have had this option in the
mouse section.

  Option Emulate3Buttons on

It is possible that one of the problems is the middle button emulation
isn't working correctly.

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Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-12-21 20:53 +0100, Stephen Powell wrote:

 I am having trouble copying text from an xterm window into another 
 application,
 such as iceweasel, and vice versa.  When I was using GNOME, this worked fine
 between gnome-terminal and other applications.

How exactly did you copy the text?

 But I'm using XFCE now, and
 xterm seems to be the default terminal emulator application under XFCE.

Nothing stops you from using gnome-terminal under XFCE, I suppose…

 Before you tell me that Google is my friend, or some other trite brush-off
 saying, let me tell you that I have done my homework on this.  I have searched
 the internet.  I have learned about the difference between the PRIMARY buffer
 and the CLIPBOARD buffer, I have learned about settings to put in .Xdefaults,
 etc.  But none of the techniques I have found work for me.  I use a 
 traditional
 PS/2 mouse.  It has two, and only two, mouse buttons.  It has no thumbwheel.

 Has anyone succeeded in getting this to work in a Debian XFCE environment?

I don't use XFCE, but I have set xterm's selectToClipboard resource to
true, meaning that text you select in xterm can be pasted into other
applications with Ctrl-V, and Shift-Ins pastes text from the clipboard
into xterm.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:

 I am having trouble copying text from an xterm window into another 
 application,
 such as iceweasel, and vice versa. When I was using GNOME, this worked fine
 between gnome-terminal and other applications. But I'm using XFCE now, and
 xterm seems to be the default terminal emulator application under XFCE.

 Before you tell me that Google is my friend, or some other trite brush-off
 saying, let me tell you that I have done my homework on this. I have searched
 the internet. I have learned about the difference between the PRIMARY buffer
 and the CLIPBOARD buffer, I have learned about settings to put in .Xdefaults,
 etc. But none of the techniques I have found work for me. I use a traditional
 PS/2 mouse. It has two, and only two, mouse buttons. It has no thumbwheel.

 Has anyone succeeded in getting this to work in a Debian XFCE environment?

1) What did you try in .Xresources? Did you merge the new
resource(s) via xrdb after setting it(them)?

I use XTerm*VT100.translations: #override Btn1Up:
select-end(PRIMARY, CLIPBOARD, CUT_BUFFER0).

2) OT: I don't use XFCE but isn't xfce4-terminal its default terminal?


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Re: Network services started before NIC UP.

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Erwan David wrote:
 Everything in /etc/networkinterfaces.
 
 It is a bit complicated let me explain the situation before going to
 configuration:

Actually your situation sounds pretty normal to me.

 # The primary network interface
 auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet static
 address 88.190.17.120
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 gateway 88.190.17.1
 up ip addr add 88.191.245.121/32 dev eth0 label eth0:0
 up ip -6 addr add 2001:0bc8:30d3::1/64 dev eth0
 down ip addr del 88.191.245.121/32 dev eth0 label eth0:0
 down ip -6 addr del 2001:0bc8:30d3::1/64 dev eth0

I don't see anything unusual there.  However I am not an IPv6 expert
and still need to learn the details of it.  The IPv4 parts look
perfectly reasonable.  I have no reason to doubt the IPv6 parts.

 88.190.17.120 is the private address (if I change server I will get
 another address) 88.191.245.121 and 2001:0bc8:30d3::1 are the public
 addresses, becaus I may migrate them to another machine at same
 hoster, making them more robust for public facing services (web email
 and ntp server in pool.ntp.org for this one)

Yes.  A common strategy.  Looks good.

 The router for IPv6 is given through the RA (I have the correct sysctl
 set up for accepting teh RA *and* routing IPv6)

I will assume it is good.

The important thing is that it will start up using ifupdown.  It is
set to use auto meaning that it will start synchronously at system
boot time.  If it were using allow-hotplug then it would use the
current standard event driven interface.  The two startup paths should
both work but they are different.  It is certainly possible for them
to behave differently with one path working and one not working.  I
have problems with NIS/yp with the allow-hotplug event driven path but
it works with the auto path for example.  (I need to debug that to
root cause some day.)

  Just for the purposes of debugging if you are using allow-hotplug
  then try switching that to auto.  In theory allow-hotplug should
  always work but since it is the newer event driven method sometimes
  there are still bugs to be found.  It is possible that your case is
  one of those.  Try auto instead and see if that older start ordering
  causes things to work in the correct way.
 
 I always use auto for fixed machines, like this server.

I see by this that you are already aware of the issues and understand
the differences between.  I will still say a lot for the archive
because it might help someone else looking at the problem later.

But then my question would be the reverse.  If you were to switch to
allow-hotplug would that cause things to happen differently and
perhaps work?  It would be something to try.  Although I am sure you
don't want to thrash your production server.  Trying these experiments
on a local victim development machine or VM would be good.

Since you are using auto then the numbers defined in the LSB headers
in the /etc/init.d/* scripts should drive the placement in the boot
order in the /etc/rc2.d/S* symlinks.  Things should work in that
order.  If things do not work in that order then that is the problem
to find and fix.

Also when the interface starts up it will execute the scripts
registered in /etc/network/if-*.d/* and those will happen at the time
when the interface status changes.  But I doubt that is the problem
here since by definition if-up.d/foo would happen after the interface
is up and your problem is something happening before then.

 resolv.conf is 
 
 search rail.eu.org
 nameserver 127.0.0.1

Just to verify, no resolvconf installed?

 unbound listen on loopback when it is started:
 
 unbound 3048 unbound3u  IPv4  11035  0t0  UDP 127.0.0.1:domain 
 unbound 3048 unbound4u  IPv4  11036  0t0  TCP 127.0.0.1:domain 
 (LISTEN)
 unbound 3048 unbound5u  IPv6  11037  0t0  UDP [::1]:domain 
 unbound 3048 unbound6u  IPv6  11038  0t0  TCP [::1]:domain (LISTEN)

I think I will guess that the problem is that auto is the old path
through the system boot.  Something in your use of 'unbound' isn't set
up for that path.  Dig into how unbound starts.

  $ ls -1 /etc/rcS.d/S*
  $ ls -1 /etc/rc2.d/S*

Look over that list and verify that it should be starting networking
in /etc/rcS.d/S*networking and that unbound starts up when it is
supposed to start up.  For example for me:

  /etc/rcS.d/S15networking
  /etc/rc2.d/S03bind9

Everyone's numbers will be different of course since those are
determined by the installed set of LSB headers from the /etc/init.d/*
files.  The numbers do not matter.  They are set dynamically by
'insserv'.

  The errors you showed in the log file were from dns name resolution
  failures.  How are nameservers configured for your machine?  Are you
  using DHCP to set them?  Or are they statically definited?  Are you
  running a local machine nameserver daemon such as bind9 or dnsmasq or
  other?  What is in the /etc/resolv.conf file?
 
 I use 2 dns servers, on different IP addresses : NSD on public
 addresses, 

Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 12/21/2013 03:28 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:
 I don't use XFCE, but I have set xterm's selectToClipboard resource to
 true, meaning that text you select in xterm can be pasted into other
 applications with Ctrl-V, and Shift-Ins pastes text from the clipboard
 into xterm.
where do you set this??

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Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 14:53 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote:
 But I'm using XFCE now, and xterm seems to be the default terminal
 emulator application under XFCE.

No, it's xfce4-terminal. Using xfce4-terminal shouldn't cause copy and
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Re: Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  Brian wrote:
   By default the screen is cleared of boot messages, There is only a login
   prompt.
  
  Yes.  Between util-linux 2.17.2-9 and 2.20.1-4 getty has changed and
  it now clears the screen.  This seems like a good thing on the surface
  until you find out that it destroys the boot time messages including
  any errors that are on the screen at the time.  To prevent this a new
 
 The screen clearing was implemented by upstream as a response to
 concerns about security. Debian itself has never done it.
 
  option --noclear has appeared.  Editing the /etc/inittab to add the
  --noclear option to getty will prevent the new screen clearing
  behavior and allow the error messages there to be seen.
  
  1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty --noclear 38400 tty1

I can see that Debian wouldn't want to be different from upstream on
this.  But I wish upstream had not gone this way.  Because the intent
is to protect a clueless user from being clueless.  But the practice
hurts a cluefull user from being cluefull.  The damage to the latter
group is worse than the damage to the former group.

And this is one of those features that both affects everyone and
affects almost no one.  When things are working with a graphical login
manager then no one will be looking at this information.  When there
are problems then the messages are cleared and gone and the
information is then missing.  I really dislike things that cause
problems only when there are problems.  It is like having a failure to
print an error message.

 This is one of the first things I do on any install ; I prefer the
 traditional way.

Me too.  It is now part of my standard system setup since Wheezy 7.

In this context of console logins and security I am compelled to
mention the Secure Attention Key.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_attention_key

  Also in Wheezy 7 the bootlogd is broken out into a separate package.
  If you want bootlogs in /var/log as it was in Squeezy 6 then you need
  to install the new package.
  
  apt-get install bootlogd
 
 This lucid tip encourages me to consider including it as part of my
 normal practice.

It is part of my standard system setup since Wheezy 7 too.  :-)

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Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul Cartwright wrote:
 On 12/21/2013 03:28 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:
  I don't use XFCE, but I have set xterm's selectToClipboard resource to
  true, meaning that text you select in xterm can be pasted into other
  applications with Ctrl-V, and Shift-Ins pastes text from the clipboard
  into xterm.

 where do you set this??

Either interactively with control-middle-mouse-drag down to Select to
Clipboard and check it _or_ set it in your .Xresources.

  man xterm

   selectToClipboard (class SelectToClipboard)
   Tells xterm whether to use the PRIMARY or CLIPBOARD for  SELECT
   tokens  in  the selection mechanism.  The set-select action can
   change this at runtime, allowing the user to work with programs
   that  handle  only  one  of  these  mechanisms.  The default is
   “false”, which tells it to use PRIMARY.

To set this on the fly for testing (session only, not permanent):

  $ echo XTerm*SelectToClipboard:true | xrdb -m

Put XTerm*SelectToClipboard:true in your ~/.Xresources file for
permanent configuration.

  $ echo XTerm*SelectToClipboard:true  ~/.Xresources
  $ xrdb -m ~/.Xresources

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: setting up usb wireless

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Frank McCormick wrote:
 Selim T. Erdogan wrote:
 Frank McCormick, 19.12.2013:
  Solved my problem. +1 for wicd in the Debian repositories...-10
   for gnome-nettool :)
  
   If you are having wireless setup problems, it's the tool to goto.
 
  FWIW, I have a cheap usb wireless adabter with the same identifier
  listed in your lsusb (ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370
  Wireless Adapter) and it's been working fine with Network Manager in
  Gnome (in fallback mode) in wheezy.  Haven't needed wicd, or anything
  else for that matter, to get it working.  (The performance isn't too
  great but that's probably due to the driver and/or hardware.)
 
   Well try as I might..I could not get the darned thing to operate.
 It was setup properly but I couldn't use it. As I said wicd solved
 the problem for me in Debian. On the other hand, I just booted into
 Fedora 19 and it recognized the device, set it up..called dhcp and
 it was ready and waiting when I reached the desktop. Weird or what.

I don't like NM but the symptoms you reported don't seem to be due to
the difference between wicd and NM.  The symptoms showed that the wifi
was associated but no dhcp response was received.  I sometimes get
this too using the Intel 2200BG driver.  I think it might more likely
have been a driver issue.  I find that unloading and reloading the
driver fixes the problem.  And another list member reported the same
thing recently too.  I think that may have been more likely the issue
rather than the choice of system management software.  I think for
this particular case either wicd or NetworkManager would have been
okay and that it isn't a particular problem with NM.

On the surface if there isn't a dhcp received then I would expect that
one wasn't sent on the server side.  However in practice I find that I
have had kernel driver issues more often and reloading the driver
fixes it and therefore it cannot be due to missing dhcp frames.  The
unanswered question is what situation causes the device to report
being associated but fails to communicate data?  Don't know.

I am using the ralink driver with a USB RT3070 device.  That is
different from the RT5370 device you are using but I think the driver
is the same?  For me it is the rt2800usb family.  The ralink driver
has been working well for me.  I am using one as a client and two as
an access points and found they work pretty well for me.  So far I
would give them a thumbs up.

 Anyway, it's good that you solved your problem, whichever way was handy.

   Any port in a storm :)

Agreed.  Glad that your problem is solved.

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Acpi Lid Suspend with Eeepc 900 Not Working

2013-12-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
Installed Wheezy-LXDE 32-bit off LXDE flavor ISO via thumb drive to
replace Eeebuntu 3.0 that I installed on it 3 years ago or so.  Chose
Base, Desktop GUI and Laptop tasks.  Nothing else.  All went well and
as far as I can tell everything works, except Suspend (sleep, not
hibernate) when the lid is closed.  Don't want hibernate anyway. Instead
of sleeping, the display is shutdown, but the computer itself is still
fully powered and running.  (The sleep key combo FnF1 works however.) 

I installed the eeepc-apci-scripts from the repo thinking that might
solve the problem. It didn't, but fortunately those scripts are
compatible with the others, so no conflicts.

I finally traced the problem to lid.sh from the original acpi
scripts.  Full script is below. Toward the top, this if-then is not
being triggered.  Don't know why.

if [ x$LID_SLEEP = xtrue]; then
pm-suspend

Any answers come to mind?


I did a work-around by having the lid event call my own suspend.sh
action directly.  It works, sort of:  Goes back to sleep after initially
waking up, requiring a second key press, then it sticks.

Thanks.

B


/etc/acpi/lid.sh follows

= 8 ==

#!/bin/sh

test -f /usr/share/acpi-support/state-funcs || exit 0

. /usr/share/acpi-support/power-funcs
. /usr/share/acpi-support/policy-funcs
. /etc/default/acpi-support

[ -x /etc/acpi/local/lid.sh.pre ]  /etc/acpi/local/lid.sh.pre

CheckPolicy  exit

grep -q closed /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state
if [ $? = 0 ]
then
. /usr/share/acpi-support/screenblank
if [ x$LID_SLEEP = xtrue ]; then
pm-suspend
fi
else
d=/tmp/.X11-unix
for x in $d/X*; do
displaynum=${x#$d/X}
getXuser;
if [ x$XAUTHORITY != x ]; then
export DISPLAY=:$displaynum
if [ x$RADEON_LIGHT = xtrue ]; then
[ -x /usr/sbin/radeontool ]  radeontool light on
fi
case $DISPLAY_DPMS in
xset)
su $XUSER -s /bin/sh -c xset dpms force on
;;
xrandr)
su $XUSER -s /bin/sh -c xrandr --output LVDS --auto
;;
vbetool)
/usr/sbin/vbetool dpms on
;;
esac
if pidof xscreensaver  /dev/null; then
if on_ac_power; then 
su $XUSER -s /bin/sh -c xscreensaver-command -unthrottle
fi
su $XUSER -s /bin/sh -c xscreensaver-command -deactivate
fi
else
if [ -x$DISPLAY_DPMS_NO_USER = xtrue ]; then
[ -x /usr/sbin/vbetool ]  /usr/sbin/vbetool dpms on
fi 
fi
done
fi
[ -x /etc/acpi/local/lid.sh.post ]  /etc/acpi/local/lid.sh.post


 


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Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Brian
On Sat 21 Dec 2013 at 21:09:56 +, Tom H wrote:

 2) OT: I don't use XFCE but isn't xfce4-terminal its default terminal?

It is if task-xfce-desktop is installed (and recommends enabled):

 Recommends:  xfprint4, xfce4-terminal, 

Installing xfce4:

 Depends:  thunar (= 1.2.0), xfce4-utils (= 4.8.0), 

xfce4-utils has

 Depends:  libxfce4util4 (= 4.3.99.2), xterm | x-terminal-emulator, 


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Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Paul Cartwright

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On 12/21/2013 04:30 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
 where do you set this??
 Either interactively with control-middle-mouse-drag down to Select to
 Clipboard and check it _or_ set it in your .Xresources.

   man xterm

selectToClipboard (class SelectToClipboard)
Tells xterm whether to use the PRIMARY or CLIPBOARD
for  SELECT
tokens  in  the selection mechanism.  The set-select
action can
change this at runtime, allowing the user to work with
programs
that  handle  only  one  of  these  mechanisms.  The
default is
“false”, which tells it to use PRIMARY.

 To set this on the fly for testing (session only, not permanent):

   $ echo XTerm*SelectToClipboard:true | xrdb -m

 Put XTerm*SelectToClipboard:true in your ~/.Xresources file for
 permanent configuration.

   $ echo XTerm*SelectToClipboard:true  ~/.Xresources
   $ xrdb -m ~/.Xresources
I don't have a .Xresources file.. in all my years of UNIX/Linux, I've
never edited a .xresources file..
pauls-server:~$ ls -l ~.Xresources
ls: cannot access ~.Xresources: No such file or directory

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Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
My husband, a real technophobe, is going away for three weeks to 
house-sit.  It is a last minute booking.  He is going at 5:30 in the 
morning.  I am giving him my netbook so that he can keep up with his 
emails.  I have to keep it really simple or he will just freak out 
when I am 250 miles (c.400 kilometres) away and can't just lean over 
and help..  I.T. = PANIC!

I wanted to set things up so that he could open a browser on which 
there is Google as home page.  Browse if he wants.  Then click 
on Gmail if he wants to look at his email.  Then either (optimum 
solution) log straight into his Gmail account or offer him the chance 
to sign in to his Gmail account.

But I have in the past signed onto my own account on my netbook 
and %$^*^$£ Google won't allow me to do anything else.  I can sign 
into my account, add Peter as an additional account, and then in 
future sign into his account from my account.  But I don't want that.  
I want to sign straight into his account and leave it like that for 
him.  Help!  Is anyone awake and on line?  Any ideas?

I haven't got time before he leaves to wipe the HDD and start again.

I shall multi-post this to the Debian, Surrey and Portsmouth lists, 
because I am fairly desperate.  It's the Saturday before Christmas 
here.  People on this longitude will be either in bed or out on the 
town.

Thanks,
Lisi


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Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 02:53:20PM -0500, Stephen Powell wrote:
 I am having trouble copying text from an xterm window into another 
 application,
 such as iceweasel, and vice versa.  When I was using GNOME, this worked fine
 between gnome-terminal and other applications.  But I'm using XFCE now, and
 xterm seems to be the default terminal emulator application under XFCE.
 
Others have already answered about the copy and pasting, but I figured
I'd give you another xterm trick.  You can specify the font type and
size like this:

uxterm -fn a14

I use uxterm instead of xterm (can't remember exactly why).  I found the
default font size too small.  There is a utility called xfontsel which
helps you choose the appropriate font type and size.

-Rob


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Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:31:16PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 My husband, a real technophobe, is going away for three weeks to 
 house-sit.  It is a last minute booking.  He is going at 5:30 in the 
 morning.  I am giving him my netbook so that he can keep up with his 
 emails.  I have to keep it really simple or he will just freak out 
 when I am 250 miles (c.400 kilometres) away and can't just lean over 
 and help..  I.T. = PANIC!
 
 I wanted to set things up so that he could open a browser on which 
 there is Google as home page.  Browse if he wants.  Then click 
 on Gmail if he wants to look at his email.  Then either (optimum 
 solution) log straight into his Gmail account or offer him the chance 
 to sign in to his Gmail account.
 
 But I have in the past signed onto my own account on my netbook 
 and %$^*^$£ Google won't allow me to do anything else.  I can sign 
 into my account, add Peter as an additional account, and then in 
 future sign into his account from my account.  But I don't want that.  
 I want to sign straight into his account and leave it like that for 
 him.  Help!  Is anyone awake and on line?  Any ideas?
 
In gmail, click on the person icon (it's blue on my screen) and
that'll let you select Sign out.

Next time you go to gmail, it should ask you for a user name and
password, and it'll let you check stay signed in or something like
that.

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Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Brian
On Sat 21 Dec 2013 at 12:56:35 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:

 Changing the system hostname is a simple process.  But it depends upon
 what is installed since often the hostname is embedded in the
 configuration of a package.  For example the Postfix mail transport
 agent needs to know the hostname in order for mail to work properly.
 (I assume Exim does too but I don't run it and so don't know.)  So
 does Apache.  And so forth.  Each of those packages that need to know
 the hostname need to change.  Each of those changes are simple.  Just
 make sure you look and change all of them.
 
 Here are the places that need to be changed on every system.
 
   /etc/hosts
   /etc/hostname
   /etc/mailname

Would (or should) it be necessary to change /etc/mailname? mailname(5)
describes this file as containing . . . the fully qualified domain
name that the program wishing to get the mail name should use (that is,
everything after the @).

I use Exim but I'd expect Postfix's manpage to be identical.


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Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/12/13 09:31, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 My husband, a real technophobe, is going away for three weeks to 
 house-sit.  It is a last minute booking.  He is going at 5:30 in the 
 morning.  I am giving him my netbook so that he can keep up with his 
 emails.  I have to keep it really simple or he will just freak out 
 when I am 250 miles (c.400 kilometres) away and can't just lean over 
 and help..  I.T. = PANIC!
 
 I wanted to set things up so that he could open a browser on which 
 there is Google as home page.  Browse if he wants.  Then click 
 on Gmail if he wants to look at his email.  Then either (optimum 
 solution) log straight into his Gmail account or offer him the chance 
 to sign in to his Gmail account.
 
 But I have in the past signed onto my own account on my netbook 
 and %$^*^$£ Google won't allow me to do anything else.  

1. Logout of your gmail account.
2. Wipe cookies (Iceweasel - Edit - Preferences... - Privacy -
Remove individual cookies... - Remove all cookies - Close. (google
saves your account login using cookies).
3. Login to his gmail account. (now the default google login for that
browser is his).



 I can sign 
 into my account, add Peter as an additional account, and then in 
 future sign into his account from my account.  But I don't want that.  
 I want to sign straight into his account and leave it like that for 
 him.  Help!  Is anyone awake and on line?  Any ideas?
 
 I haven't got time before he leaves to wipe the HDD and start again.
 
 I shall multi-post this to the Debian, Surrey and Portsmouth lists, 
 because I am fairly desperate.  It's the Saturday before Christmas 
 here.  People on this longitude will be either in bed or out on the 
 town.
 
 Thanks,
 Lisi
 
 


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Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 21 December 2013 22:37:47 Rob Owens wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:31:16PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  My husband, a real technophobe, is going away for three weeks to
  house-sit.  It is a last minute booking.  He is going at 5:30 in
  the morning.  I am giving him my netbook so that he can keep up
  with his emails.  I have to keep it really simple or he will just
  freak out when I am 250 miles (c.400 kilometres) away and can't
  just lean over and help..  I.T. = PANIC!
 
  I wanted to set things up so that he could open a browser on
  which there is Google as home page.  Browse if he wants.  Then
  click on Gmail if he wants to look at his email.  Then either
  (optimum solution) log straight into his Gmail account or offer
  him the chance to sign in to his Gmail account.
 
  But I have in the past signed onto my own account on my netbook
  and %$^*^$£ Google won't allow me to do anything else.  I can
  sign into my account, add Peter as an additional account, and
  then in future sign into his account from my account.  But I
  don't want that. I want to sign straight into his account and
  leave it like that for him.  Help!  Is anyone awake and on line? 
  Any ideas?

 In gmail, click on the person icon (it's blue on my screen) and
 that'll let you select Sign out.

 Next time you go to gmail, it should ask you for a user name and
 password, and it'll let you check stay signed in or something
 like that.

Should have.  I had already tried.  It didn't. :-(

But thank you very much for taking the trouble to make a suggestion.

Lisi


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SOLVED was: Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 21 December 2013 22:59:34 Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 22/12/13 09:31, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  My husband, a real technophobe, is going away for three weeks to
  house-sit.  It is a last minute booking.  He is going at 5:30 in
  the morning.  I am giving him my netbook so that he can keep up
  with his emails.  I have to keep it really simple or he will just
  freak out when I am 250 miles (c.400 kilometres) away and can't
  just lean over and help..  I.T. = PANIC!
 
  I wanted to set things up so that he could open a browser on
  which there is Google as home page.  Browse if he wants.  Then
  click on Gmail if he wants to look at his email.  Then either
  (optimum solution) log straight into his Gmail account or offer
  him the chance to sign in to his Gmail account.
 
  But I have in the past signed onto my own account on my netbook
  and %$^*^$£ Google won't allow me to do anything else.

 1. Logout of your gmail account.
 2. Wipe cookies (Iceweasel - Edit - Preferences... - Privacy -
 Remove individual cookies... - Remove all cookies - Close.
 (google saves your account login using cookies).
 3. Login to his gmail account. (now the default google login for
 that browser is his).

That worked! \o/  Thank you very much.

Lisi




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[SOLVED] Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:24:00 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 14:53 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote:
 But I'm using XFCE now, and xterm seems to be the default terminal
 emulator application under XFCE.
 
 No, it's xfce4-terminal. Using xfce4-terminal shouldn't cause copy and
 paste issues.

Installing xfce4-terminal worked for me.  Actually, based on someone
else's post, I installed task-xfce-desktop, which brought in a whole
slew of stuff, including xfce4-terminal, then purged xterm, the lightdm*
stuff, and task-xfce-desktop itself, which has a dependency on lightdm.
(I'm using xdm and don't want to use lightdm or even have it installed.)
xfce4-terminal is now my default terminal emulator in the XFCE desktop
environment.  Shift+Ctrl+C copies and Shift+Ctrl+V pastes in xfce4-terminal.
In most other applications, such as iceweasel, Ctrl+C copies and Ctrl+V
pastes.  That makes sense to require the Shift in the terminal emulator,
since Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V need to retain their historic functions for
terminals.  (Of course, you can also copy and paste via the mouse
and the action bar Edit menu.)

I tried all sorts of stuff regarding .Xresources, as suggested by other
posts, but nothing worked for me in that area.  (That was while I was
still using xterm, of course.)

I couldn't find any documented options in xorg.conf for emulating a
3-button mouse with a 2-button mouse either.  I remember that option
from older versions of the X server.  These days, input devices,
such as keyboards and mice, are expected to be auto-detected.

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Re: [SOLVED] Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Frank McCormick

On 21/12/13 07:18 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:24:00 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote:


On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 14:53 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote:

But I'm using XFCE now, and xterm seems to be the default terminal
emulator application under XFCE.


No, it's xfce4-terminal. Using xfce4-terminal shouldn't cause copy and
paste issues.





I tried all sorts of stuff regarding .Xresources, as suggested by other
posts, but nothing worked for me in that area.  (That was while I was
still using xterm, of course.)


  This works for me in xterm in .Xresources :

XTerm*VT100.translations: #override Btn1Up: select-end(PRIMARY, 
CLIPBOARD, CUT_BUFFER0)


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Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Jon N
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
 Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
 In general, if you're changing host name, *ALL* references to the old
 name should be tweaked.

 I would recommend:

   # sed --in-place=.bak -e 's/localhost-01/yournewname/g' $(grep -lr 
 localhost-01 /etc)

 Good intention but that will corrupt many binary files.  Beware!  Here
 are some interesting binary ones that I would not edit in place from
 my system.

Well, I wouldn't run a command if I wasn't able to figure out at least
the basics of what it was going to do.  But from other replies I
thought I wouldn't need anything too fancy to accomplish my goals
anyway.

And, based on other replies I edited 'hosts', 'hostname' and
'mailname'.  Then rebooted.  The DM (LightDM) still will not start.  I
changed to another virtual terminal (by that I mean I pressed
CtrlAltF1), logged in a root and ran 'startx'.  That worked OK.

To look for references to my old and new hostnames I ran the following
command: grep -rH HOSTNAME in /etc and substituted both old and new
names for HOSTNAME.  The 3 files I edited earlier still had the new
name.  The only file with the old name is
exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf, and that doesn't look like it would
cause the problem.  There are over 20 files with the word 'localhost'
in them, but not with '-01', so far my guess is that it is just used
to reference the host machine even when it is not the actual hostname.

So, maybe this is something specific to LightDM.  I did check the
files in /etc/lightdm but there were no reference to host', local or
otherwise.  I started searching through my log files and thought this
might help.  These are entries from the most recent boot up, which is
when LightDM would not load:

Auth.log -
Dec 21 16:36:38 (none) lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm-greeter:session):
session opened for user lightdm by (uid=0)
Dec 21 16:36:38 (none) lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm-greeter:session):
session closed for user lightdm
Dec 21 16:37:13 (none) login[3563]: pam_unix(login:auth): check pass;
user unknown
Dec 21 16:37:13 (none) login[3563]: pam_unix(login:auth):
authentication failure; logname=LOGIN uid=0 euid=0 tty=/dev/tty1
ruser= rhost=
Dec 21 16:37:15 (none) login[3563]: FAILED LOGIN (1) on '/dev/tty1'
FOR 'UNKNOWN', Authentication failure

Syslog -
Dec 21 16:36:38 (none) avahi-daemon[2285]: Server startup complete.
Host name is none.local. Local service cookie is 3853520009.

Then, still in syslog, I noticed two consecutive lines:
Dec 21 16:36:01 localhost-01 rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd
swVersion=7.4.4 x-pid=1899 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;]
exiting on signal 15.
Dec 21 16:36:36 (none) rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd
swVersion=7.4.4 x-pid=1922 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] start

Based on the time stamp these happened during the most recent boot.
All the previous lines have 'localhost-01' then all the subsequent
lines have '(none)'.

One other thing - I rebooted again and tried the command 'service
lightdm restart'.  It worked, sort of.  I was able to log in, but my
desktop didn't start right.  There were no panels, and when I tried to
run a Mate configuration app they wouldn't run.  I switched back to
the virtual terminal I ran 'service lightdm restart' from, and there
were no error messages.  Darn :-(.

Other suggestions?

Thanks
Jon


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Re: Collecting information after installation

2013-12-21 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 12:01:52 -0700 Bob Proulx sent:

 Yes.  Between util-linux 2.17.2-9 and 2.20.1-4 getty has changed and
 it now clears the screen.  This seems like a good thing on the surface
 until you find out that it destroys the boot time messages including
 any errors that are on the screen at the time.  To prevent this a new
 option --noclear has appeared.  Editing the /etc/inittab to add the
 --noclear option to getty will prevent the new screen clearing
 behavior and allow the error messages there to be seen.
 
 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty --noclear 38400 tty1

Thank you Bob.

I also didn't like all that information suddenly disappearing before my
eyes before I log in. But didn't know how to do that.

You have helped me with your advice. Much better.

Thank you,
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Email MTA /etc/mailname Configuration (was: Changing Hostname?)

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  Here are the places that need to be changed on every system.

A non-exclusive list.  There will also be other places too.

/etc/hosts
/etc/hostname
/etc/mailname
 
 Would (or should) it be necessary to change /etc/mailname? mailname(5)
 describes this file as containing . . . the fully qualified domain
 name that the program wishing to get the mail name should use (that is,
 everything after the @).

I guess it depends upon what you have in that file but in 100% of my
machines I have the FQDN (fully qualified domain name) of the system.
I think that is typical and therefore it would always need to be
changed.  But it might not be typical for everyone.  Others may do
things quite differently.  That is the problem with a flexible
configurable system.  There are many different ways to do things.
Everyone thinks the way they do things is best.  :-)

All of my email behind my site router can send mail from the machine
itself.  This is very useful on headless servers for notifications.
On the private network I want to see the actual hostname.  Hiding the
hostname would be counterproductive.  My desktop that I am sending
this message from is being sent from such a configuration.  But wait
you say you don't see the FQDN on this email.  That's right.

On my site mail relay I configure Postfix for site masquerading.  I
set the following in my site router relay configuration.

  masquerade_domains = proulx.com
  masquerade_exceptions = root
  masquerade_classes = envelope_sender, header_sender
  local_header_rewrite_clients = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated

That causes mail outbound from my desktop to change from my local
hostname over to the shorter domain only address.  This is the best
plan for me since I may send email from my desktop or from my laptop.
When I break my laptop and buy another one the new one will be
masqueraded.  When I change desktops the new desktop is usually up and
running in parallel with the previous one for some time.  Because the
masquerading configuration is in my site mail relay I don't have to do
anything special on the local client workstations.

But as with all things other people may have other ideas.  If they
want to masquerade at each system then they might set the myorigin to
be their domain email address.  They might only have one system.
(Horrors!  grin/) Then all email will be sent to and from that
domain address.  In which case that file won't change when the
hostname changes.  The upstream Postfix docs even recommend this.  The
Debian specific change to allow myorigin = /etc/mailname supports
this.  It just doesn't happen to be best for everyone.  Among other
things it means you should also set up a domain wide alias database
for all addresses in use.  Most large sites have this.  It just so
happens that I don't.  You could argue that I should.

As a side note I always block outgoing port 25 traffic at the site
router.  This prevents a virus infected MS Windows machine from being
able to send mail outbound from my network and putting me on a DNSBL.

 I use Exim but I'd expect Postfix's manpage to be identical.

I expect so too.  Since /etc/mailname is a Debian specific thing I
expect it to be Policy across all mail transport agents so I assume
that includes Exim too.  But I wouldn't expect to find that on other
non-Debian systems.  The idea is to give a global place to configure
whatever is installed without really knowing what might actually be
installed.  One place didn't exist for all of them and therefore
Debian created that location for use in Debian.  Other non-Debian
systems won't have that file.  And won't have a centralized place to
configure all of the MTAs either.  Or if they do it will likely be in
a different location.

In Postfix the configuration is up to the local admin to keep or
remove.  It is myorigin = /etc/mailname and the Debian specific part
is that it is allowed to be a file.  A lot of Postfix admins will not
need that setting and will have a custom file of their choosing
replacing the entire default template.

  http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#myorigin

  myorigin (default: $myhostname)
The domain name that locally-posted mail appears to come from, and
that locally posted mail is delivered to.  The default,
$myhostname, is adequate for small sites.  If you run a domain with
multiple machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2)
set up a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to
user@that.users.mailhost.
 Example:
  myorigin = $mydomain

Since the default is myhostname and on Debian the default hostname is
the short name not the FQDN then for Postfix one value or the other
always needs to be set.  Either myhostname needs to be set to the
FQDN or myorigin needs to be set to something.  To understand the
myhostname issue you have to understand that Postfix by default wants
to see the FQDN set as the hostname but that isn't typical 

Re: [SOLVED] Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 19:32:23 -0500 (EST), Frank McCormick wrote:
 
This works for me in xterm in .Xresources :
 
 XTerm*VT100.translations: #override Btn1Up: select-end(PRIMARY, 
 CLIPBOARD, CUT_BUFFER0)
 
 Sorry it wrapped

That's one I didn't try.  But now that I have a solution by means
of xfce4-terminal, I'm not going to re-install xterm and give it
a try.  Maybe it will help someone else, though.

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2013-12-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi,

I need help to configure jwm from stable. FWIW some audio packages and
their dependencies are from testing or unstable.

Icons for the menu are ignored, but at least editing the program does
work.

[rocketmouse@archlinux debi386]$ grep Browser etc/jwm/system.jwmrc 
  Program icon=firefox.png label=Www
Browsergnome-www-browser/Program
[rocketmouse@archlinux debi386]$ grep Browser home/rocketmouse/.jwmrc
  Program icon=firefox.png label=Www Browserqupzilla/Program

Is there a way to display icons?

How can I change the wallpaper to

/usr/share/wallpapers/Grass/[...]?

[rocketmouse@archlinux debi386]$ grep 'Background type'
etc/jwm/system.jwmrc 
  Background type=image/export0/images/formulae.jpg/Background
[rocketmouse@archlinux debi386]$ grep 'Background type'
home/rocketmouse/.jwmrc
  Background type=image[...]/Background

Do I have to edit the whole menu myself or is there a way to use the
same menu as other DE's do use? At least for categories like Internet
it would be nice to automatically get a menu entry when installing a
browser.

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Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:37:47 -0500 Rob Owens sent:

  But I have in the past signed onto my own account on my netbook 
  and %$^*^$£ Google won't allow me to do anything else.  I can sign 
  into my account, add Peter as an additional account, and then in 
  future sign into his account from my account.  But I don't want
  that. I want to sign straight into his account and leave it like
  that for him.  Help!  Is anyone awake and on line?  Any ideas?

 In gmail, click on the person icon (it's blue on my screen) and
 that'll let you select Sign out.
 
 Next time you go to gmail, it should ask you for a user name and
 password, and it'll let you check stay signed in or something like
 that.

That works for me as well, as I have need at times to check into
different gmail accounts for family members.

I suppose if it is a real problem rid yourself of all gmail or google
cookies and then try again. A bit desperate though I would think?

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Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul Cartwright wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  Put XTerm*SelectToClipboard:true in your ~/.Xresources file for
  permanent configuration.
 
$ echo XTerm*SelectToClipboard:true  ~/.Xresources
$ xrdb -m ~/.Xresources

 I don't have a .Xresources file.. in all my years of UNIX/Linux, I've
 never edited a .xresources file..
 pauls-server:~$ ls -l ~.Xresources
 ls: cannot access ~.Xresources: No such file or directory

Then I assume you have a .Xdefaults file?  Put it there.

There are something like a half dozen different locations that X
resource data can be stored.  An X program will look through each
location in turn in priority order.

I posted on this topic before so instead of annoying the list with
another long posting today I will simply point to the previous.

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/09/msg01385.html

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/02/msg00395.html

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Re: [SOLVED] Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Stephen Powell wrote:
 Installing xfce4-terminal worked for me.  Actually, based on someone
 else's post, I installed task-xfce-desktop, which brought in a whole
 slew of stuff, including xfce4-terminal, then purged xterm, the lightdm*
 stuff, and task-xfce-desktop itself, which has a dependency on lightdm.
 (I'm using xdm and don't want to use lightdm or even have it installed.)
 xfce4-terminal is now my default terminal emulator in the XFCE desktop
 environment.  Shift+Ctrl+C copies and Shift+Ctrl+V pastes in xfce4-terminal.

 In most other applications, such as iceweasel, Ctrl+C copies and Ctrl+V
 pastes.  That makes sense to require the Shift in the terminal emulator,
 since Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V need to retain their historic functions for
 terminals.  (Of course, you can also copy and paste via the mouse
 and the action bar Edit menu.)

I take it from the above you wish to use C-c, C-x, C-v in the
terminal, okay to use Shift-C-c, Shift-C-x, Shift-C-v in the terminal,
instead of the mouse for cutting and pasting?  Because those do all
tend to imply using the clipboard instead of the primary selection.
And this is a very personal thing.  People either like using one or
the other.  X has traditionally used the mouse with the primary
selection.  MS-Windows has traditionally used the keyboard with the
clipboard.  And the two worlds have been clashing ever since! :-)

 I tried all sorts of stuff regarding .Xresources, as suggested by other
 posts, but nothing worked for me in that area.  (That was while I was
 still using xterm, of course.)

I still think it should work fine (X primary selection cutting and
pasting with the mouse) in the default configuration without any
additional configuration added.  But regardless I am glad to hear that
you have something you are happy with for you.  :-)

 I couldn't find any documented options in xorg.conf for emulating a
 3-button mouse with a 2-button mouse either.  I remember that option
 from older versions of the X server.  These days, input devices,
 such as keyboards and mice, are expected to be auto-detected.

If you don't have anything set then I believe the default will work
okay without any specific configuration.

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Re: SOLVED was: Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Lisi Reisz wrote:
 Scott Ferguson wrote:
  1. Logout of your gmail account.
  2. Wipe cookies (Iceweasel - Edit - Preferences... - Privacy -
  Remove individual cookies... - Remove all cookies - Close.
  (google saves your account login using cookies).
  3. Login to his gmail account. (now the default google login for
  that browser is his).
 
 That worked! \o/  Thank you very much.

Yay!

I have had an additional problem before.  A buddy that I help with the
computer wanted his credentials to be remembered in the browser.  That
is fine.  But because he had other failed logins the browser form
history was remembering these other lines and suggesting them in the
login fields.  Those erroneous suggestions were in the way.

If you find yourself in a similar situation you can remove them
individually.  To remove them you can of course completely clear the
browser history.  Or you in Iceweasel at least you can hover the mouse
over the undesired entry suggestions and press the keypad Delete key.
That will remove that individual entry from the browser history
without needing to clear the entire form history.

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Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Jon N wrote:
 Dec 21 16:36:38 (none) lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm-greeter:session): session 
 opened for user lightdm by (uid=0)

(none)?  It thinks the hostname is (none)?  That's not right.
Unless you named your new system (none) with the parens which
shouldn't work.

 Dec 21 16:36:38 (none) avahi-daemon[2285]: Server startup complete.
 Host name is none.local. Local service cookie is 3853520009.

none.local?

 Based on the time stamp these happened during the most recent boot.
 All the previous lines have 'localhost-01' then all the subsequent
 lines have '(none)'.

I think there is an error with setting the new name.  Just for
verification what does hostname say?

  $ hostname

It should return the hostname of your system.  If it doesn't then
something is wrong with /etc/hostname.

I am thinking the hostname is empty for some reason.

 One other thing - I rebooted again and tried the command 'service
 lightdm restart'.  It worked, sort of.  I was able to log in, but my
 desktop didn't start right.  There were no panels, and when I tried to
 run a Mate configuration app they wouldn't run.  I switched back to
 the virtual terminal I ran 'service lightdm restart' from, and there
 were no error messages.  Darn :-(.

Usually the X system communicates with itself through a communication
socket.  The network communication socket connection could be tcp over
the network or it could be a local unix comain socket.  As I recall
the hostname is encoded in there somewhere.  Meaning that if you
change the hostname while the system is up and running that it loses
communication.  As I recall this causes current windows to continue
but causes failure to open any new windows.  You can close windows but
can't open them.  But that knowledge is from years ago and things
might be different now.  Now everything should use a local unix domain
socket by default for speed and security.

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: setting up usb wireless

2013-12-21 Thread Frank McCormick

On 21/12/13 04:35 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Frank McCormick wrote:

Selim T. Erdogan wrote:

Frank McCormick, 19.12.2013:

Solved my problem. +1 for wicd in the Debian repositories...-10
for gnome-nettool :)

If you are having wireless setup problems, it's the tool to goto.


FWIW, I have a cheap usb wireless adabter with the same identifier
listed in your lsusb (ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370
Wireless Adapter) and it's been working fine with Network Manager in
Gnome (in fallback mode) in wheezy.  Haven't needed wicd, or anything
else for that matter, to get it working.  (The performance isn't too
great but that's probably due to the driver and/or hardware.)






I don't like NM but the symptoms you reported don't seem to be due to
the difference between wicd and NM.  The symptoms showed that the wifi
was associated but no dhcp response was received.  I sometimes get
this too using the Intel 2200BG driver.  I think it might more likely
have been a driver issue.  I find that unloading and reloading the
driver fixes the problem.  And another list member reported the same
thing recently too.

//snip//






I am using the ralink driver with a USB RT3070 device.  That is
different from the RT5370 device you are using but I think the driver
is the same?  For me it is the rt2800usb family.  The ralink driver
has been working well for me.  I am using one as a client and two as
an access points and found they work pretty well for me.  So far I
would give them a thumbs up.




  Yes I noticed on the Ralink Tech site that some of the drivers cover 
a wide range of chipsets. It was weird that the adapter seemed to be
setup but couldn't function under dhcp. But today I had different 
problems with the passphrase which I finally sorted out. And then the 
adapter kept dropping out and reverting to wired...and it's only a few 
feet from the router. Wireless under Linux can be a PITA.



Anyway, it's good that you solved your problem, whichever way was handy.


   Any port in a storm :)


Agreed.  Glad that your problem is solved.


   For now anyway :)




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Re: SOLVED was: Re: Gmail Grrrr. [web usernames and logins]

2013-12-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/12/13 12:54, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 Scott Ferguson wrote:
 1. Logout of your gmail account.
 2. Wipe cookies (Iceweasel - Edit - Preferences... - Privacy -
 Remove individual cookies... - Remove all cookies - Close.
 (google saves your account login using cookies).
 3. Login to his gmail account. (now the default google login for
 that browser is his).

 That worked! \o/  Thank you very much.
 
 Yay!
 
 I have had an additional problem before.  A buddy that I help with the
 computer wanted his credentials to be remembered in the browser.  That
 is fine.  But because he had other failed logins the browser form
 history was remembering these other lines and suggesting them in the
 login fields.  Those erroneous suggestions were in the way.

There are two elements:-
;login/profile stored in cookie (sometimes as a lash cookie which is
another kettle of spit)
;password (and login) stored by password manager


The sites, i.e. google use cookies to store the login
The browser stores the passwd OR you can use a password manager (I
recommend KWallet). If the browsers stores the password the key is the
URL. The Iceweasel browser can store many username and password
combinations against a given URL. These can be weeded with Iceweasel -
Edit - Preferences... - Security - Search for part of the interesting
URL - Remove bad password/username.

Sometimes the problem is that the browser won't store a username and/or
password. This may be solved (sometimes) by creating a blank bookmark
for the site and reloading the page.
Other times the inablity to save a username and password is the result
of dedicated stupidity verging on criminal negligence i.e. the
site/application was designed so that password managers could *not* be
used (I'm looking at you OpenERP). This happens when company employ
idiots as programmers and the idiots can't manage their own passwords
for testing so they design the interface accordingly. If the trick is
done with javascript saving the following single-line of code to a
bookmark will allow the browser to save the username/password:-

javascript:(function(){var%20ac,c,f,fa,fe,fea,x,y,z;ac=autocomplete;c=0;f=document.forms;for(x=0;xf.length;x++){fa=f[x].attributes;for(y=0;yfa.length;y++){if(fa[y].name.toLowerCase()==ac){fa[y].value=on;c++;}}fe=f[x].elements;for(y=0;yfe.length;y++){fea=fe[y].attributes;for(z=0;zfea.length;z++){if(fea[z].name.toLowerCase()==ac){fea[z].value=on;c++;alert(Enabled%20'+ac+'%20on%20+c+%20objects.);})();

With applications like OpenERP where the programmers have gone to more
trouble to ensure poor security the only solution is don't use the product.

 
 If you find yourself in a similar situation you can remove them
 individually.  To remove them you can of course completely clear the
 browser history.  Or you in Iceweasel at least you can hover the mouse
 over the undesired entry suggestions and press the keypad Delete key.
 That will remove that individual entry from the browser history
 without needing to clear the entire form history.

It's probably a good idea to clear all cookies and History as default
everytime you start a browser if privacy is a concern, but judicious use
of the Private Browsing feature of most good browsers is a safe
substitute (IMO). With Iceweasel it 'used' to be possible to set Privacy
so that history and cookies were always deleted from previous sessions.
I suspect you need an extension to do that now.

NOTE: form history, and browsing history are different. A site can
read your previous browsing history but not your form history.
tl;dr? browsing history bad, form history useful.

 
 Bob
 

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: setting up usb wireless

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Frank McCormick wrote:
   Yes I noticed on the Ralink Tech site that some of the drivers
 cover a wide range of chipsets. It was weird that the adapter seemed
 to be setup but couldn't function under dhcp.

I have seen wifi associate and then not obtain a dhcp address on a
variety of chipsets and drivers.  Intel, Broadcom, Realtek.  And so I
conclude that the problem must be at a different layer since there is
no commonality below.

 But today I had different problems with the passphrase which I
 finally sorted out. And then the adapter kept dropping out and
 reverting to wired...and it's only a few feet from the router.

You have a wire?  If I have a wire then I always use it.  Wired
connections are always going to be more reliable than radio because
radio is susceptible to noise among other problems.

 Wireless under Linux can be a PITA.

All I have to do is mention Limited or no connectivity and cringe.
I am sure others reading this will too.  If you type that into a
search engine with auto-prompting on the only hits after that are for
MS Windows.  Typically that means network connected but no DNS servers
are configured.  But useless error messages like that make it very
difficult for people.  Things are much better under Debian GNU/Linux
than under MS-Windows by a long distance!

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Re: fail2ban fails to ban apache...

2013-12-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle

Sorry, I meant this to go to the list...

On 12/21/2013 12:01 PM, François Patte wrote:

Bonjour,

I try to configure fail2ban in order to ban IP which try to connect to
directories protected by .htaccess.

Here is my [apache] section in jail.conf:

enabled  = true
port = http,https
filter   = apache-auth
logpath  = /var/log/apache*/*error.log
maxretry = 3

But I tested filling the auth form with erroneous login/password and
nothing happens! Nothing appeared in /var/log/fail2ban.log...



You did stop and restart fail2ban after making the changes, right?

I don't use Apache authorization on any of my sites, so I can't 
duplicate your problem.  However, look at your 
/var/log/apache2.error.log - what is the entry you get there when you 
get an authorization failure?   (btw - I don't use wildcards in my 
fail2ban entries - don't know if it makes a difference or not.)


Then look at /etc/fail2ban/filter.d - the regex in there must match the 
entry in your /var/log/apache2/error.log file.  The regex in your 
apache-auth.conf file must match the entry in your error.log file for 
fail2ban to work (I've found not all fail2ban regex's are accurate).




I tried the same for ssh connections and the IP of the computer from
which I tried was banned after the third attempt.

What is missing in my config?


Here is the ssh section in jail.conf:

enabled  = true
port = ssh
filter   = sshd
logpath  = /var/log/auth.log
maxretry = 6



Thanks



See above.

As a side, I use iptables ipt_recent module to handle ssh violations.  I 
find it more reliable (no waiting for log entries to be written out).


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