date:20140221

El Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:10:13 -0600, Alejandro Gabriel Sánchez Martínez
escribió:

 El Jue 20 Feb 2014 14:20:49 Camaleón escribió:
 El Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:23:18 -0600, Alejandro Gabriel Sánchez Martínez
 
 escribió:
  Tendrán alguna referencia de marca y modelo de una tarjeta  o usb 
  para capturar video por medio de HDMI compatible con debian o linux
  en general.
  
  Actualmente utilizamos una por video compuesto pero queremos mejorar
  a hdmi.
 
 ¿No preguntaste a Google? :-?
 
 https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en#complete=0hl=enq=video
+captu
 re+card+linux
 
 
 Si y dice que varias pero lo que no dice es que algunos que dice que si 
 trabajan en verdad no trabajan como una que tengo aquí. 

Mejor si nos dices el modelo de tarjeta que no te funciona, qué has 
probado para configurarla, etc... porque muchas veces pensamos que algo 
no funciona cuando lo que sucede realmente es que estamos haciendo alguna 
cosa mal :-)

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Re: Transferencia FTP a menos de 1Mbit/S

2014-02-21 Thread adriancito


Camaleón, gracias por tu respuesta,

Te respondo entre tus líneas:

On 20/02/14 11:39, Camaleón wrote:

El Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:57:12 -0300, adriancito escribió:

   

Les consulto, tengo un server FTP en Debian en mi intranet local (la
cual está funcionando a 100mbit con cableado UTP Cat. 5E).

Ahora bien, cuando me conecto por FTP desde un Cliente Windows al server
ftp y quiero pasar archivos, en primer lugar para establecerse la
conexión es bastante lento y luego la transferencia la hace a menos de
1mbit/s.

Obviamente la placa del Cliente Windows trabaja a 100mbit.

Alguien sabe que problema puede estar sucediendo?
 

Son pocos datos los que das sobre servidor/cliente FTP usados,


El Server FTP está en un Debian 3.1 con ProFTPd y el cliente es TotalCMD 
sobre una PC con Windows.

la
configuración de la red local, etc...

192.168.0.1/24 (ambos equipos)

pero lo primero que probaría es la
conexión al servidor FTP desde otro sistema con Linux para hacer pruebas
y delimitar así el ámbito del origen del error.
   
Es raro, desde un cliente Linux todo funciona perfecto, pero desde las 
PCs Windows se percibe lentitud...


:(

Saludos,

   



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Re: Virtualizar

2014-02-21 Thread Cristian Mitchell

El 20 de febrero de 2014, 21:07, celtictux . celtic...@gmail.com escribió:

 Alguien te ha comentado por ahí, Nomachine, y FreeNX, (añado NeatX)me
 parece una opción buenísima a la que no has prestado mucha atención...


 Puedes correr incluso XFCE si quieres, además es seguro y liviano en
 comparación con VNC o RDP...

 prueba, a ver si te convence, ya verás que si...

 si necesitas más info, pregunta. funciona muy bien en Debian, yo mismo lo
 usaba.


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las opciones son muchas
vnc, freenx, rdp, Xming + putty, xdm, ssh -x, ltsp, vnc + java, y hay
varias mas

EL tema es que debes poner en claro, un escritorio remoto, en red local o
remoto, aplicacion remota, en red local o remoto,
que tipo de plataforma server, que tipo de aplicacion en el server, web o
aplicacion local, etc,, etc...


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y las critican los inútiles crónicos,

Re: Ejecutar aplicaciones en cliente desde servidor

El Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:37:59 +0100, celtictux . escribió:

 El 19 de febrero de 2014, 15:43, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:42:56 +0100, celtictux . escribió:

  El protocolo RDP no es seguro, lo que pides se puede hacer con
  GNU/Linux, con menor consumo de recursos y además de forma segura,
  mediante protocolo SSH.

 ¿De dónde sacas ese dato?

 Que yo sepa, las últimas especificaciones del protocolo pueden usar TLS
 tanto en la parte cliente como en la servidora.



 Ya... y usado bajo proxy o túnel ssh o también es seguro...

Con un proxy no necesariamente.

 Si cada vez que tengo que crear un vínculo entre máquinas tengo que
 crear certificados, ya me dirás tú donde está la gracia, para mi es más
 fácil generar una llave y exportarla.

Configurar RDP para usar TLS no debería ser complicado, quienes lo hemos 
tenido que configurar para otros servicios (servidores web o de correo 
electrónico) sabemos que son apenas unos minutos donde lo más engorro es 
generar el certificado. Los clientes no deberían dar problemas.

 Eres pro-windows?

Pues no me desagrada.

 Si te tengo que decir y darte las gracias por aprender algo nuevo.
 
 Un saludo!

De nada hombre.

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Re: Debian 7.2 USB

El Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:19:15 +0100, Jorge escribió:

 Hola:

(...)

Jorge, ya te hemos respondido a esto en un hilo anterior, no hace falta 
que lo vuelvas a enviar. Lo que sí sería conveniente es que respondieras 
lo que te preguntamos ;-)

Probar debian en un USB
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2014/02/thrd2.html#00596


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Re: OT - autofs y tmpfs

El Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:19:02 +0100, Juanjo López escribió:

 Hola.

(ese html...)

 Recientemente, he instalado un SSD como segundo disco duro, con una
 partición F2FS para /.
 /home se encuentra en esa misma partición.
 
 El objetivo es minimizar las escrituras en este disco SSD, por lo que
 había pensado en lo siguiente:
 
 * Para cada usuario, crear un archivo .tar en /var/local, que contenga
 todos los archivos de su home.
 * En auto.master, crear un mapa para el directorio /home:
 '/home  program:/usr/local/bin/autohome'
 
 Cada vez que un usuario entre al sistema, el script que genera el mapa
 se encarga de extraer el tar bajo /tmp/home ( /tmp es tmpfs ), y
 devuelve a su vez un mapa del tipo '$NAME  -fstype=bind 
 :/tmp/home/$NAME'.

Uhhh... uséase, que la /home esté en la memoria RAM, pero ¿no es un poco 
arriesgado? Si la sincronización falla podrías perder datos :-?

 Hasta aquí, todo OK. El problema es:  ¿ como actualizar el tar con los
 datos de cada usuario al desmontar su /home ??
 
 No encuentro ninguna forma de ejecutar ningún tipo de script al
 desmontar el directorio, con lo que los datos de cada usuario no son
 volcados a su archivo .tar correspondiente, y cualquier cambio se
 pierde.
 
 He pensado en poner un script en cron que actualice los datos del
 usuario cada cierto tiempo (si es que hay cambios), por ejemplo con
 rsync (y eliminar el tar del esquema), pero no me parece una solución
 elegante, y siempre puede suceder que un usuario salga antes de que el
 cron llame al script de sincronización y se pierdan los últimos cambios.
 
 ¿ Alguna sugerencia ?

Lo del archivo .tar se me escapa, pero creo que este sistema te podría 
servir:

Ubuntu thumb drive
http://robwicks.com/tag/tmpfs/

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Re: Transferencia FTP a menos de 1Mbit/S

El Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:28:00 -0300, adriancito escribió:

 On 20/02/14 11:39, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 Ahora bien, cuando me conecto por FTP desde un Cliente Windows al
 server ftp y quiero pasar archivos, en primer lugar para establecerse
 la conexión es bastante lento y luego la transferencia la hace a menos
 de 1mbit/s.

(...)

 Son pocos datos los que das sobre servidor/cliente FTP usados,
 
 El Server FTP está en un Debian 3.1 con ProFTPd y el cliente es TotalCMD
 sobre una PC con Windows.

OK. Ya sabes que tienes una versión de Debian *MUY* antigua.

 la configuración de la red local, etc...
 192.168.0.1/24 (ambos equipos)

Vale, entiendo que los equipos (clientes y servidor) están conectados al 
mismo conmutador sencillito sin más aparatos de por medio ni con 
direccionamiento avanzado.

 pero lo primero que probaría es la conexión al servidor FTP desde otro
 sistema con Linux para hacer pruebas y delimitar así el ámbito del
 origen del error.

 Es raro, desde un cliente Linux todo funciona perfecto, pero desde las
 PCs Windows se percibe lentitud...

Bien, ahora prueba con otro cliente FTP (p. ej., FileZilla o WinSCP, 
ambos con versión portátil disponible) desde Windows.

Saludos,

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[Off-Topic] Resultados del CUCSL

2014-02-21 Thread juan . mejias

Hola. El pasado 14 de febrero se hicieron las premiaciones del Concurso 
Universitario Cubano de Software Libre. De un total de 17 proyectos 
participantes se premiaron tres. El primer lugar lo ganó un proyecto de 
la Universidad de la Habana[1], mientras que el segundo fue compartido 
entre otro proyecto también de la UH[1] y Pegotes, de la Universidad de 
Camagüey. Este tipo de eventos en mi opinión propicia el desarrollo de 
software libre en Cuba, por lo que espero que continúe haciéndose.
Gracias por su apoyo. Sus respuestas me ayudaron muchísimo a hacer una 
aplicación usable. Sobre todo gracias a Camaleón a quien debo el nombre 
del proyecto :)


[1] Los proyectos ganadores pertenecientes a la UH fueron VHDL Code 
Generator y Autoexam. Disculpen pero no recuerdo cual quedó primero y 
cual segundo. De todas formas, pronto debe salir una nota oficial 
(supongo).


Estos son los links a los proyectos ganadores por si alguien quiere 
informarse sobre los mismos:

VHDL Code Generator - https://github.com/BlakeTeam/VHDLCodeGenerator
Autoexam - https://github.com/matcom/autoexam
Pegotes - https://github.com/greenled/gloo


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Re: Transferencia FTP a menos de 1Mbit/S

2014-02-21 Thread Francesc Guitart


El 21/02/2014 13:16, adriancito escribió:

Francesc, gracias por tu respuesta.

Va entre tus líneas:

On 20/02/14 10:01, Francesc Guitart wrote:



¿Usas hubs o switchs?

Switch 10/100/1000

¿Están conectados los dos ordenadores al mismo hub/switch?

Si, al mismo Switch.

¿Había otras copias en curso en ese momento en la red que pudieran
crear un cuello de botella?

No.



Muchas Gracias.

Saludos.



Intenta remplazar los cables por otros.

Son cables de 8 hilos, no? Los has hecho tu?

Saludos.


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Re: Transferencia FTP a menos de 1Mbit/S

2014-02-21 Thread Felix Perez

El día 21 de febrero de 2014, 11:28, adriancito
adrianfran...@gmail.com escribió:
Camaleón, gracias por tu respuesta,

Te respondo entre tus líneas:

On 20/02/14 11:39, Camaleón wrote:

El Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:57:12 -0300, adriancito escribió:

Les consulto, tengo un server FTP en Debian en mi intranet local (la
cual está funcionando a 100mbit con cableado UTP Cat. 5E).

Ahora bien, cuando me conecto por FTP desde un Cliente Windows al server
ftp y quiero pasar archivos, en primer lugar para establecerse la
conexión es bastante lento y luego la transferencia la hace a menos de
1mbit/s.

Obviamente la placa del Cliente Windows trabaja a 100mbit.

Alguien sabe que problema puede estar sucediendo?

Son pocos datos los que das sobre servidor/cliente FTP usados,

El Server FTP está en un Debian 3.1 con ProFTPd y el cliente es TotalCMD
sobre una PC con Windows.

la
configuración de la red local, etc...

192.168.0.1/24 (ambos equipos)

pero lo primero que probaría es la
conexión al servidor FTP desde otro sistema con Linux para hacer pruebas
y delimitar así el ámbito del origen del error.

Es raro, desde un cliente Linux todo funciona perfecto, pero desde las PCs
Windows se percibe lentitud...

Hac muchos añoas atras en una red con un servidor debian
¿Potato?¿Woody? ¿Etch? teniamos un server ftp, los clientes windows 98
y ME, y también algunos w95, cuando los clientes accedían al ftp en la
red local, eran muy lentos pero en cambio al acceder a recursos fuera
de la red local, servidores de universidades, u otros la velocidad
era mucho más rápida. Consultado el soporte de MS, nunca nos supieron
dar una respuesta clara, que el tcp, que la red, que la tarjeta, que
el hub, que el switch. Ahora ese mismo servidor al ser accedido desde
fuera de la red, es decir, via internet respondía rápido. Conclusión
final: a los clientes windows algo les pasaba dentro de la red local
con el protocolo ftp.
Prueba accediendo al ftp desde fuera de la red local (si puedes) y con
el mismo cliente windows.

Suerte.

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Re: Transferencia FTP a menos de 1Mbit/S

2014-02-21 Thread Ramses

El 21/02/2014, a las 20:57, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió:

 El día 21 de febrero de 2014, 11:28, adriancito
 adrianfran...@gmail.com escribió:
 Camaleón, gracias por tu respuesta,
 
 Te respondo entre tus líneas:
 
 
 On 20/02/14 11:39, Camaleón wrote:
 
 El Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:57:12 -0300, adriancito escribió:
 
 
 
 Les consulto, tengo un server FTP en Debian en mi intranet local (la
 cual está funcionando a 100mbit con cableado UTP Cat. 5E).
 
 Ahora bien, cuando me conecto por FTP desde un Cliente Windows al server
 ftp y quiero pasar archivos, en primer lugar para establecerse la
 conexión es bastante lento y luego la transferencia la hace a menos de
 1mbit/s.
 
 Obviamente la placa del Cliente Windows trabaja a 100mbit.
 
 Alguien sabe que problema puede estar sucediendo?
 
 Son pocos datos los que das sobre servidor/cliente FTP usados,
 
 
 El Server FTP está en un Debian 3.1 con ProFTPd y el cliente es TotalCMD
 sobre una PC con Windows.
 
 la
 configuración de la red local, etc...
 
 192.168.0.1/24 (ambos equipos)
 
 pero lo primero que probaría es la
 conexión al servidor FTP desde otro sistema con Linux para hacer pruebas
 y delimitar así el ámbito del origen del error.
 
 Es raro, desde un cliente Linux todo funciona perfecto, pero desde las PCs
 Windows se percibe lentitud...
 
 Hac muchos añoas atras en una red con un servidor debian
 ¿Potato?¿Woody? ¿Etch? teniamos un server ftp, los clientes windows 98
 y ME, y también algunos w95, cuando los clientes accedían al ftp en la
 red local, eran muy lentos pero en cambio al acceder a recursos fuera
 de la red local,  servidores de universidades, u otros la velocidad
 era mucho más rápida. Consultado el soporte de MS, nunca nos supieron
 dar una respuesta clara, que el tcp, que la red, que la tarjeta, que
 el hub, que el switch.  Ahora ese mismo servidor al ser accedido desde
 fuera de la red, es decir, via internet respondía rápido.  Conclusión
 final: a los clientes windows algo les pasaba dentro de la red local
 con el protocolo ftp.
 Prueba accediendo al ftp desde fuera de la red local (si puedes) y con
 el mismo cliente windows.

¿Temas de MTU en los Windows?


Saludos,

Ramses

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Duda nombre de carpetas con espacios

2014-02-21 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia


Estoy intentando realizar un script que va a ser ejecutado sh backup.sh

Pero resulta que dentro existe una carpeta que tiene espacios y no logro que 
me funcione:


He intentado de mil formas, pero ninguna me funciona:

con:
DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias
DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases\ de\ Datos/diarias
DIR=/mnt/Salvas/'Bases de Datos'/diarias

Pero de ninguna forma va.

Como solventar esto sin eliminar los espacios?

Desde ya Gracias

| ISMAEL |




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Re: Duda nombre de carpetas con espacios

2014-02-21 Thread Gerardo Diez García

El 21/02/14 22:37, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:
 Estoy intentando realizar un script que va a ser ejecutado sh backup.sh
 
 Pero resulta que dentro existe una carpeta que tiene espacios y no logro
 que me funcione:
 
 He intentado de mil formas, pero ninguna me funciona:
 
 con:
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases\ de\ Datos/diarias
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/'Bases de Datos'/diarias
 
 Pero de ninguna forma va.
 
 Como solventar esto sin eliminar los espacios?
 
 Desde ya Gracias
 
 | ISMAEL |
 
 
 
 
¿Has probado a meter toda la ruta entre paréntesis?
DIR='/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias'

Y a efectos de depuración ¿has probado a imprimir la cadena que asignas?
echo $DIR


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Re: Duda nombre de carpetas con espacios

2014-02-21 Thread Omar Murray

El Vie 21 Feb 2014 16:37:12 Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:
 Estoy intentando realizar un script que va a ser ejecutado sh backup.sh
 
 Pero resulta que dentro existe una carpeta que tiene espacios y no logro que
 me funcione:
 
 He intentado de mil formas, pero ninguna me funciona:
 
 con:
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases\ de\ Datos/diarias
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/'Bases de Datos'/diarias

/mnt/Salvas/Bases\ de\ Datos\ diarias
 
 Pero de ninguna forma va.
 
 Como solventar esto sin eliminar los espacios?
 
 Desde ya Gracias
 
 
 | ISMAEL |
 
 

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Re: Duda nombre de carpetas con espacios

2014-02-21 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia

- Original Message - 
From: Gerardo Diez García gerardo.diez.gar...@gmail.com

To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Duda nombre de carpetas con espacios

El 21/02/14 22:37, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

Estoy intentando realizar un script que va a ser ejecutado sh backup.sh

Pero resulta que dentro existe una carpeta que tiene espacios y no logro
que me funcione:

He intentado de mil formas, pero ninguna me funciona:

con:
DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias
DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases\ de\ Datos/diarias
DIR=/mnt/Salvas/'Bases de Datos'/diarias

Pero de ninguna forma va.

Como solventar esto sin eliminar los espacios?

Desde ya Gracias

| ISMAEL |

¿Has probado a meter toda la ruta entre paréntesis?
DIR='/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias'

Y a efectos de depuración ¿has probado a imprimir la cadena que asignas?
echo $DIR

DIR='/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias'
DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias

Sin resultados. Tanto en simples como en dobles.

| ISMAEL |

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Re: Duda nombre de carpetas con espacios

2014-02-21 Thread Petronilo Sanchez

2014-02-21 16:44 GMT-06:00 Ismael L. Donis Garcia ism...@citricos.co.cu:

 - Original Message - From: Gerardo Diez García
 gerardo.diez.gar...@gmail.com
 To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 5:21 PM
 Subject: Re: Duda nombre de carpetas con espacios



 El 21/02/14 22:37, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

 Estoy intentando realizar un script que va a ser ejecutado sh backup.sh

 Pero resulta que dentro existe una carpeta que tiene espacios y no logro
 que me funcione:

 He intentado de mil formas, pero ninguna me funciona:

 con:
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases\ de\ Datos/diarias
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/'Bases de Datos'/diarias

 Pero de ninguna forma va.

 Como solventar esto sin eliminar los espacios?

 Desde ya Gracias
 
 | ISMAEL |
 



 ¿Has probado a meter toda la ruta entre paréntesis?
 DIR='/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias'

 Y a efectos de depuración ¿has probado a imprimir la cadena que asignas?
 echo $DIR




 DIR='/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias'
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias

 Sin resultados. Tanto en simples como en dobles.
Donde la uses, tambien ponla con comillas
ls -d $DIR


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Re: Duda nombre de carpetas con espacios

2014-02-21 Thread Walter O. Dari


El 21/02/14 18:37, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

Estoy intentando realizar un script que va a ser ejecutado sh backup.sh

Pero resulta que dentro existe una carpeta que tiene espacios y no logro
que me funcione:

He intentado de mil formas, pero ninguna me funciona:

con:
DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias
DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases\ de\ Datos/diarias
DIR=/mnt/Salvas/'Bases de Datos'/diarias

Pero de ninguna forma va.

Como solventar esto sin eliminar los espacios?


wodari@debi5:~$ DIR='carpeta\ con\ espacios\'
wodari@debi5:~$ echo $DIR
carpeta\ con\ espacios\


Saludos,




Desde ya Gracias

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Re: Duda nombre de carpetas con espacios

2014-02-21 Thread Felix Perez

El día 21 de febrero de 2014, 22:01, Walter O. Dari
wlin...@gmail.com escribió:
 El 21/02/14 18:37, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

 Estoy intentando realizar un script que va a ser ejecutado sh backup.sh

 Pero resulta que dentro existe una carpeta que tiene espacios y no logro
 que me funcione:

 He intentado de mil formas, pero ninguna me funciona:

 con:
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/Bases\ de\ Datos/diarias
 DIR=/mnt/Salvas/'Bases de Datos'/diarias

 Pero de ninguna forma va.

 Como solventar esto sin eliminar los espacios?


 wodari@debi5:~$ DIR='carpeta\ con\ espacios\'
 wodari@debi5:~$ echo $DIR
 carpeta\ con\ espacios\

Y sin los backslashs también funciona

felix@portatil:~$ DIR='carpeta con espacios'
felix@portatil:~$ echo $DIR
carpeta con espacios

felix@portatil:~$ DIR=carpeta con espacios
felix@portatil:~$ echo $DIR
carpeta con espacios

felix@portatil:~$ DIR=/mnt/Salvas/'Bases de Datos'/diarias
felix@portatil:~$ echo $DIR
/mnt/Salvas/Bases de Datos/diarias

Y si colocas parte del script?

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Erro no virtualbox

2014-02-21 Thread Ricardo Braz

Estou instalando o virtualbox no debian jessie mas esta dando o seguinte
erro:

Error in SUPR3HardenedMain
Effective UID is not root (euid=1000 egid=1000 uid=1000 gid=1000) (rc=-10)
Please try reinstaling VirtualBox.


Ja reinstalei e não tem jeito o que esta dando errado?

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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

2014-02-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU

On Vi, 21 feb 14, 18:56:44, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
 
 Andrei's suggestion arose because I was contemplating on how to expand
 the (ISO9660 or whatever) filesystem that would end up on the USB
 stick.
 
 Anyway, in hindsight, you can simply create your own jigdo image, big
 enough to contain the entire Debian repository:
 
 apt-cache search jigdo
 
 and check out the packages for creation of jigdo image. That sounds
 like an appealing solution to me. Create quick-and-simple full local
 repo, then sign the repo with your own signature (this last step
 should be pretty easy, once you know how :)
 
AFAIU jigdo is meant to take an ISO image to pieces and reassemble it. 
It is not an image creator (hence the suggestion from Steve for a 
wishlist bug against debian-cd, the image creation tool). 

If the stick doesn't have to be bootable I'd rather look into some of 
the tools to create your own repository (reprepro seems to be the 
selection of choice).

 All good, don't worry about it. Wanting to achieve your own little
 plot of perfection is certainly something supported, indeed
 encouraged, in this community :)

Definitely :)

Kind regards,
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update-grub

2014-02-21 Thread Ric Moore

After bending my brains for a day fixing little problems, after 
upgrading to Jessie, I'm noticing a weird behavior.


I have Ubuntu on /dev/sda3 and Debian on /dev/sdb1. When I run 
update-grub, it notices the Ubuntu partition yet when I boot, the old 
selection for Ubuntu is no longer there. It used to be, and poof it's 
gone now. Any assist would be appreciated. Thanx, Ric


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Debian live USB install fails to boot

2014-02-21 Thread Tom Heuser

Greetings all...

I tried to install
debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isohttp://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isoonto
a 16gb sandisk USB using both Unetbootin and Linux Live USB in Windows
and when I try to boot it all I get is missing operating system.  Does
anyone know why this is happening?

I previous had tails on this USB and it was always able to boot just fine.


Cura ut valeas!
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Re: update-grub

On 21/02/14 20:06, Ric Moore wrote:
 After bending my brains for a day fixing little problems, after
 upgrading to Jessie, I'm noticing a weird behavior.
 
 I have Ubuntu on /dev/sda3 and Debian on /dev/sdb1. When I run
 update-grub, it notices the Ubuntu partition yet when I boot, the old
 selection for Ubuntu is no longer there. It used to be, and poof it's
 gone now. Any assist would be appreciated. Thanx, Ric
 

Which OS manages GRUB for you - or do you let strongest one win?

Make sure you don't have more than one grub.cfg (one per OS) and that
GRUB is using the correct one. i.e. from Debian mount the relevant
Ubuntu slice and grep it's grub.cfg.


Kind regards


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Re: update-grub

On 21/02/14 20:27, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 21/02/14 20:06, Ric Moore wrote:
 After bending my brains for a day fixing little problems, after
 upgrading to Jessie, I'm noticing a weird behavior.

 I have Ubuntu on /dev/sda3 and Debian on /dev/sdb1. When I run
 update-grub, it notices the Ubuntu partition yet when I boot, the old
 selection for Ubuntu is no longer there. It used to be, and poof it's
 gone now. Any assist would be appreciated. Thanx, Ric

 
 Which OS manages GRUB for you - or do you let strongest one win?
 
 Make sure you don't have more than one grub.cfg

in use (?)

  (one per OS) and that
 GRUB is using the correct one. i.e. from Debian mount the relevant
 Ubuntu slice and grep it's grub.cfg.

If you find that update-grub is applying the desired changes to grub.cfg
but you don't see those changes at the GRUB boot prompt then GRUB
(Debian) may not be updating the relevant area. Compare the actual boot
choices you see to both Ubuntu's grub.cfg and Debian's
$ grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg


You don't say 'what' is bootable - mbr, partition/s etc. If Ubuntu and
Debian are using different types of schemes it can cause (fixable)
problems. It may be as simple as mounting the Ubuntu slice and copying
the relevant section from it's /etc/grub.d/* to the same in Debian and
re-running upgrade-grub.


NOTE: Friday night here - gotta go, I'll check back tomorrow to see if
you, or someone else has sorted if for you.

 
 
 Kind regards
 


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Re: Need to make sure I have the nvidia proprietary driver running.

2014-02-21 Thread Anubhav Yadav

 Did you add yourself to the bumblebee group?
 quote
 adduser $USER bumblebee ...as root
 where $USER corresponds to your username. Don't forget to log out and log
 back in for this to take effect.

Yes

 https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee#Installation


I think I am almost there! Bumblebee service is not getting started,
its getting stopped.
Optirun is running for some apps like nvidia-settings.
But not for glxgears

Here is the output when I try to run optirun -vvv glxgears
[  376.165332] [DEBUG]Reading file: /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf
[  376.166004] [WARN]Could not open configuration file:
/etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf
[  376.166053] [WARN]Using default configuration
[  376.166431] [DEBUG]optirun version 3.2.1 starting...
[  376.166497] [DEBUG]Active configuration:
[  376.166550] [DEBUG] bumblebeed config file: /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf
[  376.166578] [DEBUG] X display: :8
[  376.166605] [DEBUG] LD_LIBRARY_PATH:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nvidia:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/nvidia:/usr/lib/nvidia
[  376.166653] [DEBUG] Socket path: /var/run/bumblebee.socket
[  376.166696] [DEBUG] Accel/display bridge: auto
[  376.166723] [DEBUG] VGL Compression: proxy
[  376.166753] [DEBUG] VGLrun extra options:
[  376.166784] [DEBUG] Primus LD Path:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/primus:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/primus:/usr/lib/primus:/usr/lib32/primus
[  376.166900] [DEBUG]Using auto-detected bridge primus
[  376.168024] [INFO]Response: Yes. X is active.

[  376.168107] [INFO]Running application using primus.
[  376.168409] [DEBUG]Process glxgears started, PID 4340.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :8.
[  376.213949] [DEBUG]SIGCHILD received, but wait failed with No child processes
[  376.214006] [DEBUG]Socket closed.
[  376.214036] [DEBUG]Killing all remaining processes.

Wonder why is this warning coming: Could not open configuration file:
/etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf

Also Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :8.

But nevertheless optirun is running finally. (Pheww)

Also lsmod | grep video shows nvidia in its output. Whereas previously
it wasn't.

i2c_core   23876  7
i2c_algo_bit,i2c_i801,drm,drm_kms_helper,videodev,i915,nvidia

 There's all sorts of hints on that page. Good luck! :) Ric

Yes I started with this page itself. Thanks for your help anyways. I
just want someone to confirm that I have solved my problem!


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Re: Debian live USB install fails to boot

2014-02-21 Thread antispammbox-debian





I tried to install
debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isohttp://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isoonto
a 16gb sandisk USB using both Unetbootin and Linux Live USB in Windows
and when I try to boot it all I get is missing operating system.  Does
anyone know why this is happening?

I previous had tails on this USB and it was always able to boot just fine.






Try with:
http://optimate.dl.sourceforge.net/project/tuxboot/0.6/Windows/tuxboot-0.6.exe

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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

2014-02-21 Thread Joel Rees

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
 [...]
 As I write this a interesting question arose, Could I find software to
 emulate a Z80 CPM machine?. Is there an implementation of Lawrence
 Livermore BASIC? How about CUPL? I believe the term applied to my interests
 is eclectic.
 YMMV

I assume you know the answers to these questions?

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Re: Debian live USB install fails to boot

2014-02-21 Thread Brian

On Fri 21 Feb 2014 at 01:20:53 -0800, Tom Heuser wrote:

 I tried to install
 debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isohttp://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isoonto
 a 16gb sandisk USB using both Unetbootin and Linux Live USB in Windows
 and when I try to boot it all I get is missing operating system.  Does
 anyone know why this is happening?

This would require troubleshooting your use of these two programs within
a Windows environment. Personally, I would use Win32 Disk Imager and try
first with a netinst ISO. Best would for you to do

   cat ISO  /dev/sdX

from within a Linux install (tails?).


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Re: Runnings Windows 7 pro from inside Debian 7

2014-02-21 Thread Nuno Magalhães

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:17 AM, John Foster jfoster81...@verizon.net wrote:
 Seeking tips on how to set up a multi boot system that has Windows 7
 pro, Debian 7  2 other operating systems each with its own disk to run
 from so that any of the OS can be run in a safe manner from within
 Debian 7.

Try Xen with LVM. Doublecheck your hardware first.


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Re: Runnings Windows 7 pro from inside Debian 7

2014-02-21 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri

Nuno Magalhães writes:
  On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:17 AM, John Foster jfoster81...@verizon.net 
  wrote:
   Seeking tips on how to set up a multi boot system that has Windows 7
   pro, Debian 7  2 other operating systems each with its own disk to run
   from so that any of the OS can be run in a safe manner from within
   Debian 7.
  
  Try Xen with LVM. Doublecheck your hardware first.

Another option is kvm/qemu together with libvirt. Really interesting.

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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?


Joel Rees wrote:

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

[...]
As I write this a interesting question arose, Could I find software to
emulate a Z80 CPM machine?. Is there an implementation of Lawrence
Livermore BASIC? How about CUPL? I believe the term applied to my interests
is eclectic.
YMMV


I assume you know the answers to these questions?



chuckle
I do know how to search for packages in Debian and progeny.

That paragraph was written as a rhetorical device to get a point 
across.


In multiple threads I have stated my goal.
To whit, To have *ALL* of Debian (for a specific architecture 
implied) without availability of *ANY* internet connectivity.


I keep getting suggestions to approximately meet *SPECIFICATION* 
by ... ;/




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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

2014-02-21 Thread Joel Rees

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Joel Rees wrote:

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net
wrote:

[...]
As I write this a interesting question arose, Could I find software to
emulate a Z80 CPM machine?. Is there an implementation of Lawrence
Livermore BASIC? How about CUPL? I believe the term applied to my
interests
is eclectic.
YMMV

I assume you know the answers to these questions?

chuckle
I do know how to search for packages in Debian and progeny.

That paragraph was written as a rhetorical device to get a point across.

In multiple threads I have stated my goal.
To whit, To have *ALL* of Debian (for a specific architecture implied)
without availability of *ANY* internet connectivity.

I keep getting suggestions to approximately meet *SPECIFICATION* by ... ;/

Having you tried setting up a regular mirror (spinning disks) (hosted
on a debian server, of course) and making a live image of it? Then
writing the image to a USB drive?

There are some tricky points, some USB drives don't take well to being
partitioned or to having non-VFAT derived file systems written on
them. Many don't like to be shrunk, so you'll want to gauge the size
of the mirror (And that means, perhaps, limiting the extent of the
ideal all. But I think you have already indicated that you want to
have some elements of the non-free repository -- drivers ..., which
means you're going to be hand-crafting the installation to a certain
extent. I think I'd tend to lean towards building it as two
repositories, by the way, to make the license issues a bit cleaner.)

Of course, the whole problem here is that you're the only person on
the list who has a prayer of figuring out how to build what you want.
Which of the approximations have you tried so far, to get a feel of
how they work in practice?

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Preparation of a wishlist bug underway - was [Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?]


My procedure will be:
  1. write specification of goal
  2. write rationale behind goals
  3. experiment with trial solutions
  4. create and submit wishlist bug


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Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.


I have *NO* internet connectivity.
I have Squeeze installed.
I have complete DVD install set.

I want to re-create the ISO files from which they came.

I suspect I'm missing something obvious ;/

HELP ;




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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

2014-02-21 Thread Dan Purgert

On 21/02/2014 07:32, Richard Owlett wrote:
 I have *NO* internet connectivity.
 I have Squeeze installed.
 I have complete DVD install set.
 
 I want to re-create the ISO files from which they came.
 
 I suspect I'm missing something obvious ;/
 
 HELP ;
 
 
 
 

First off ... why're you looking to re-create the ISO images if you've already
got them hard-copy on the DVDs?

sudo dd -if /dev/dvd[*] -of Squeeze_disc_N.iso[**] should probably cover what
you need to do.  Running it as root is probably not necessary, but it covers you
in case your currently logged in user doesn't have the permissions necessary to
work with /dev/dvd (i.e. it's just insurance so you don't get an error message).

[*] Assuming that /dev/dvd is your dvd drive.
[**] where 'N' is the disc number.  Also note that this assumes you're already
in the directory where you want to keep the ISOs.


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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 07:47 -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
 First off ... why're you looking to re-create the ISO images if you've already
 got them hard-copy on the DVDs?
 
 sudo dd -if /dev/dvd[*] -of Squeeze_disc_N.iso[**] should probably cover 
 what
 you need to do.  Running it as root is probably not necessary, but it covers 
 you
 in case your currently logged in user doesn't have the permissions necessary 
 to
 work with /dev/dvd (i.e. it's just insurance so you don't get an error 
 message).
 
 [*] Assuming that /dev/dvd is your dvd drive.
 [**] where 'N' is the disc number.  Also note that this assumes you're already
 in the directory where you want to keep the ISOs.

I don't know if somebody already mentioned this for the other thread,
since I didn't follow the thread: ISOs can be mounted from any drive.

http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html

So coping all to a drive and mounting all of them would be one way.



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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

2014-02-21 Thread Steve McIntyre

Andrei wrote:
On Vi, 21 feb 14, 18:56:44, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
 
 Andrei's suggestion arose because I was contemplating on how to expand
 the (ISO9660 or whatever) filesystem that would end up on the USB
 stick.
 
 Anyway, in hindsight, you can simply create your own jigdo image, big
 enough to contain the entire Debian repository:
 
 apt-cache search jigdo
 
 and check out the packages for creation of jigdo image. That sounds
 like an appealing solution to me. Create quick-and-simple full local
 repo, then sign the repo with your own signature (this last step
 should be pretty easy, once you know how :)
 
AFAIU jigdo is meant to take an ISO image to pieces and reassemble it. 
It is not an image creator (hence the suggestion from Steve for a 
wishlist bug against debian-cd, the image creation tool). 

You're correct, yes.

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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

2014-02-21 Thread David

On 21 February 2014 23:32, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

I have *NO* internet connectivity.
I have Squeeze installed.
I have complete DVD install set.

I want to re-create the ISO files from which they came.

A month ago (http://lists.debian.org/52e270fb.7070...@cloud85.net)
in another thread we already discussed this as follows:

On 25 January 2014 00:56, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
David wrote:

Ordinarily, an iso file is used to prepare a filesystem image that is
then burnt to a dvd. But you want to go in the opposite direction.
Somehow you need to read the entire dvd image into an iso file. And
this is not necessarily simple, see for example:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm#_Accurately_Reading_a_CD
Years ago I have done this successfully with CDs. I don't know if it
applies to DVDs.

From an initial reading, I don't see why it would not apply to a DVD.
Careful reread and experimentation to follow.

See also:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch10
Section 10.3 and especially 10.3.6 following you can ... make the
ISO9660 image directly from the CD-ROM device as follows

I've found other portions of that work valuable in the past. Thanks for
reminding me of it. Chapters 9 and 10 should keep me occupied. 10.3.8.
Mounting the ISO9660 image file implies an answer to my question.

Sometime between then and now, it seems that the debian-reference has
been edited and that information has entirely disappeared from the current
version, and so the above debian.org link is now broken. Perhaps if you have
the squeeze version, it will still contain the relevant information.

The first link I provided is still valid, and provides instructions
how to create an
iso file from cd media. Did you try this? What happens when you follow
those instructions?

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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.


Dan Purgert wrote:

On 21/02/2014 07:32, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have *NO* internet connectivity.
I have Squeeze installed.
I have complete DVD install set.

I want to re-create the ISO files from which they came.

I suspect I'm missing something obvious ;/

HELP ;



First off ... why're you looking to re-create the ISO images if you've already
got them hard-copy on the DVDs?


You're safer not asking ;/
However, I wish to test a routine for processing ISO files. 
Therefore having an ISO is an *ABSOLUTE* requirement.





sudo dd -if /dev/dvd[*] -of Squeeze_disc_N.iso[**] should probably cover what
you need to do.  Running it as root is probably not necessary, but it covers you
in case your currently logged in user doesn't have the permissions necessary to
work with /dev/dvd (i.e. it's just insurance so you don't get an error message).

[*] Assuming that /dev/dvd is your dvd drive.
[**] where 'N' is the disc number.  Also note that this assumes you're already
in the directory where you want to keep the ISOs.



I _thought_ that was what I did. I'll try again. Thank you.



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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

2014-02-21 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Friday 21 February 2014 12:32:00 Richard Owlett wrote:
 I have *NO* internet connectivity.

You must have some internet connectivity, somewhere, in order to be 
able to converse with this list. :-/

Lisi


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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?


Joel Rees wrote:

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

Joel Rees wrote:


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net
wrote:


[...]
As I write this a interesting question arose, Could I find software to
emulate a Z80 CPM machine?. Is there an implementation of Lawrence
Livermore BASIC? How about CUPL? I believe the term applied to my
interests
is eclectic.
YMMV



I assume you know the answers to these questions?



chuckle
I do know how to search for packages in Debian and progeny.

That paragraph was written as a rhetorical device to get a point across.

In multiple threads I have stated my goal.
To whit, To have *ALL* of Debian (for a specific architecture implied)
without availability of *ANY* internet connectivity.

I keep getting suggestions to approximately meet *SPECIFICATION* by ... ;/


Having you tried setting up a regular mirror (spinning disks) (hosted
on a debian server, of course) and making a live image of it? Then
writing the image to a USB drive?


Servers, actual or virtual, are outside problem scope.



There are some tricky points, some USB drives don't take well to being
partitioned or to having non-VFAT derived file systems written on
them.


Not a problem for two reasons:
   For unspecified reasons I wish to use FAT32 partition anyway.
   The specific dives I have available are happy with all the 
formats I'm likely to use.




Many don't like to be shrunk, so you'll want to gauge the size
of the mirror (And that means, perhaps, limiting the extent of the
ideal all. But I think you have already indicated that you want to
have some elements of the non-free repository -- drivers ..., which
means you're going to be hand-crafting the installation to a certain
extent. I think I'd tend to lean towards building it as two
repositories, by the way, to make the license issues a bit cleaner.)


My test case will be Wheezy which comes on 10 DVD therefore will 
fit with room to spare on a 64 GB device.





Of course, the whole problem here is that you're the only person on
the list who has a prayer of figuring out how to build what you want.


GRIN


Which of the approximations have you tried so far, to get a feel of
how they work in practice?



Approximations are not acceptable by *DEFINITION*.

P.S.
Two professors wee discussing me - in my presence.

Prof A: This young man can be persistent.
Prof B: Yes. [l-o-n-g pause] about what he wants to be.
We won't discuss what family and friends say ;/



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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 14:10 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Friday 21 February 2014 12:32:00 Richard Owlett wrote:
  I have *NO* internet connectivity.
 
 You must have some internet connectivity, somewhere, in order to be 
 able to converse with this list. :-/

No, the OP must not have access to the Internet by the OPs Linux
computer.

The OP is writing from a Windows machine.

Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1



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repro ejabberd installed automatically

2014-02-21 Thread chymian

hello,
the last update of possible updates, suggested by apt-show-versions -u
on my KDE-jessie system
today with the command

aptitude -f install `apt-show-versions -u|cut -d: -f1|grep testing|xargs`

installed repro  ejabberd.

checking with aptitude why for ejabberd  repro didn't gave any reasons.

not that I'm not interested in federated sip – in fact, I'm playing with
that on my server, but how esoteric did aptitude got that it know that? ;)
or is there a bigger plan that every debian-installation is a fed. VOIP
box? running it's own jabber server and sip proxy?

can anybody shed some light on this please?

TIA
günter



Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden zusätzlich installiert:
bzr dvipng ejabberd elyxer erlang-asn1 erlang-base erlang-crypto
erlang-inets erlang-mnesia erlang-odbc erlang-public-key
erlang-runtime-tools erlang-ssl erlang-syntax-tools fonts-lmodern{b}
fonts-texgyre{b} gnome{b} kppp latex-beamer{b} latex-xcolor{b}
libdb5.1++ libfreeradius-client2 libodbc1 libptexenc1 libresiprocate-1.9
lmodern{b} luatex{b} lynx-cur lyx lyx-common{b}
network-manager-pptp network-manager-vpnc pgf{b} ppp pptp-linux
preview-latex-style{b} prosper{b} ps2eps python-bzrlib python-gpgme
python-keyring python-lazr.uri python-oauth python-paramiko
python-wadllib repro tex-gyre{b} texlive-base{b} texlive-binaries{b}
texlive-extra-utils{b} texlive-font-utils{b}
texlive-fonts-recommended{b} texlive-fonts-recommended-doc{b}
texlive-generic-extra{b}
texlive-generic-recommended{b} texlive-latex-base{b}
texlive-latex-base-doc{b} texlive-latex-extra{b} texlive-latex-extra-doc{b}
texlive-latex-recommended{b} texlive-latex-recommended-doc{b}
texlive-luatex{b} texlive-pictures{b} texlive-pictures-doc{b}
texlive-pstricks{b} texlive-pstricks-doc{b} texlive-science{b}
texlive-science-doc{b} tipa{b}
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
brasero-common{u} gstreamer0.10-gconf{u} gstreamer0.10-nice{u}
gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly{u} libburn4{u} libgconfmm-2.6-1c2{u}
libgdata-common{u} libglademm-2.4-1c2a{u} libgsf-1-114{u}
libgsf-1-common{u} libisofs6{u} libjte1{u} liboauth0{u}
libqtgstreamerui-0.10-0{u} libtelepathy-qt4-farstream2{u} libzephyr4{u}
linux-kbuild-3.11{u} pidgin-data{u} pulseaudio-module-gconf{u}
Die folgenden Pakete werden EMPFOHLEN, aber NICHT installiert:
apache2-utils apache2-utils:i386 fonts-lyx gdebi libsctp1
nautilus-sendto-empathy python-launchpadlib python-secretstorage
resiprocate-turn-server tk tk:i386
0 Pakete aktualisiert, 69 zusätzlich installiert, 19 werden entfernt und
100 nicht aktualisiert.



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Re: Debian live USB install fails to boot

2014-02-21 Thread Patrick Bartek

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Tom Heuser wrote:

 Greetings all...
 
 I tried to install
 debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isohttp://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.4-amd64-xfce-desktop.isoonto
 a 16gb sandisk USB using both Unetbootin and Linux Live USB in Windows
 and when I try to boot it all I get is missing operating system.
 Does anyone know why this is happening?

I had a similar situation, and in your case unetbootin didn't work.
What I finally did was just use dd. Although, I did it from a Linux
machine, not from Windows. But dd is available for Windows.

I needed to install Wheezy-LXDE (32-bit) on a Eeepc 900.  So, no CD
drive.  From another Linux machine onto which I had already downloaded
the ISO, I just dd if=path-to-ISO of=flashdrive device name (that
would be something like /dev/sdb, no partition number.  Make sure the
flash drive is unmounted.

That was all I did, and the flash drive booted right up and the install
went normally.

B


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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

2014-02-21 Thread Darac Marjal

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 02:10:05PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Friday 21 February 2014 12:32:00 Richard Owlett wrote:
  I have *NO* internet connectivity.
 
 You must have some internet connectivity, somewhere, in order to be 
 able to converse with this list. :-/

Yes, but sending DVD ISOs over the mailing list is going to be frowned
upon. Implementing an email backend for apt is also probably not worth
it.

If Richard says he has no internet connectivity, then he has no internet
connectivity. I've had to deal with air-gapped debian systems before.
They're a bit of a pain, but they are often required.



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Re: Old software in debian allowed?

2014-02-21 Thread Slavko

Hi,

Dňa Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:24:02 +0200 Andrei POPESCU
andreimpope...@gmail.com napísal:

 On Jo, 20 feb 14, 20:01:04, Hans wrote:
  just a simple question: Does debian accept suggestions of new
  packages, although they are old and orphaned by the original
  devolper? 
  
 It depends a lot on the package.


In nowadays it seems, that only old software is allowed inDebian. The
virtualbox package was removed from testing due not old enough. See
removal hint here:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/virtualbox/news/20140219T163913Z.html

Sure, it is a joke, but it is reality how useful are removal hints in
last weeks...

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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.


Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 14:10 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Friday 21 February 2014 12:32:00 Richard Owlett wrote:

I have *NO* internet connectivity.


You must have some internet connectivity, somewhere, in order to be
able to converse with this list. :-/


No, the OP must not have access to the Internet by the OPs Linux
computer.

The OP is writing from a Windows machine.

Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1





thank you THANK YOU *THANK YOU* lop sided grin ;
I have minimal connectivity at home.
I'm working on a possible missions project for church which can 
not assume internet availability. It can not even assume I will 
be available. The only mode of communication that can assumed is 
surface mail.




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Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.


Darac Marjal wrote:

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 02:10:05PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Friday 21 February 2014 12:32:00 Richard Owlett wrote:

I have *NO* internet connectivity.


You must have some internet connectivity, somewhere, in order to be
able to converse with this list. :-/


Yes, but sending DVD ISOs over the mailing list is going to be frowned
upon. Implementing an email backend for apt is also probably not worth
it.

If Richard says he has no internet connectivity, then he has no internet
connectivity. I've had to deal with air-gapped debian systems before.
They're a bit of a pain, but they are often required.



Strains of the Alleluia Chorus form Handel's Messiah ;]

I'm perhaps going one step further - purposely inserting large 
air gaps.


May we communicate privately by email. You may have solved 
problems I've not yet recognized.




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Fwd: Re: Problem with Sound Volume

2014-02-21 Thread Klaus


resending to list


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Problem with Sound Volume
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:00:19 -0500
From: Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com
To: Klaus klaus.doering...@gmail.com

On 02/20/2014 03:44 PM, Klaus wrote:

On 20/02/14 19:37, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

On 02/20/2014 02:02 PM, Klaus wrote:

amixer -c0 cset numid=20 100

Thanks for the reply.

Here's what I got:

omputation@AbNormal:~$ amixer -c0 controls | grep -i volume
numid=34,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
numid=11,iface=MIXER,name='Headphone Playback Volume'
numid=50,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Playback Volume'
numid=26,iface=MIXER,name='Front Mic Boost Volume'
numid=13,iface=MIXER,name='Front Mic Playback Volume'
numid=1,iface=MIXER,name='Front Playback Volume'
numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='Surround Playback Volume'
numid=5,iface=MIXER,name='Center Playback Volume'
numid=6,iface=MIXER,name='LFE Playback Volume'
numid=28,iface=MIXER,name='Line Boost Volume'
numid=17,iface=MIXER,name='Line Playback Volume'
numid=22,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Volume'
numid=24,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Volume',index=1
numid=27,iface=MIXER,name='Rear Mic Boost Volume'
numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Rear Mic Playback Volume'
numid=9,iface=MIXER,name='Side Playback Volume'
computation@AbNormal:~$
computation@AbNormal:~$ amixer -c0 cset numid=34 100
numid=34,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
   ; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=64,step=0
   : values=64
   | dBscale-min=-64.00dB,step=1.00dB,mute=0
computation@AbNormal:~$

I have sound, but the volume isn't what it used to be



Have you checked the other volume control setting?

Also, with
$ amixer -c0 contents
you'll see all setting for all controls for card0. Anything suspect?

What speakers do you use? How are they connected to the motherboard?
(Ralf asked that before...)


This one hurts. Be sure that your speakers are plugged in to power, if
they have their own amp, and that it is ~turned on~. That might explain
the tinny sound. And, that they are plugged into the correct socket if
they are not self powered. If you're plugged into the stereo line-out
you will get tinny sound if the speakers are not self powered with a
built-in amp. Your manual will tell you which is correct. Good luck! Ric


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Re: update-grub

2014-02-21 Thread Patrick Bartek

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Ric Moore wrote:

 After bending my brains for a day fixing little problems, after 
 upgrading to Jessie, I'm noticing a weird behavior.
 
 I have Ubuntu on /dev/sda3 and Debian on /dev/sdb1. When I run 
 update-grub, it notices the Ubuntu partition yet when I boot, the old 
 selection for Ubuntu is no longer there. It used to be, and poof it's 
 gone now. Any assist would be appreciated. Thanx, Ric

Did you do a 'grub-install' to the MBR of the drive that is the
primary boot drive, ie /dev/sda?

   For example, 'grub-install /dev/sda'

B


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OT: repro ejabberd installed automatically

On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 16:20 +0100, chymian wrote:
 Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden zusätzlich installiert:
 Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
 0 Pakete aktualisiert, 69 zusätzlich installiert, 19 werden entfernt
 und 100 nicht aktualisiert.

Next time consider to run

LANG=C command --options

LANG=C causes temporary English output.



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Re: Re: Old software in debian allowed?

2014-02-21 Thread Hans

On Jo, 20 feb 14, 20:01:04, Hans wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 just a simple question: Does debian accept suggestions of new packages, 
 although they are old and orphaned by the original devolper? 
 
It depends a lot on the package. There are packages that haven't seen 
updates for a few releases and are working just fine. On the other hand 
if the package might be a security risk the Security Team will object to 
its (re)inclusion. This is just an example, there may be other reasons 
to keep the package out of Debian.

Besides, just a suggestion (you probably mean Request for Package, 
a.k.a. RFP) instead of an actual intent (Intent to package, a.k.a. ITP) 
will not do much unless somebody is actually willing to package it and 
upload it to Debian. 

However, don't let this deter you from making a package. Even if it is 
only for you own use in the long run it is probably better and you also 
gain experience in packaging. If you make it available on the internet 
some other people might also find it useful.

Hope this explains,
Andrei
-

Hi Andrei, 

you are right, packaging for my own would teach me a lot. But sorry, after I 
tried hard, I give now up. After I read the packaging-tutorials I was quite of 
good hope, to get it all running. In my dumb thoughts, I though, it might just 
be easy, just to change some version nuimbers in the soursce, some lib-names 
and the thing can be build on a modern system. 

As I am completely noob in programming and packaging, I must admit, that this 
project is much too difficulty for me. This begins with errors, I did not 
understand and a lot of not understanding, what is happening at all. 

As there is no experienced one in the near, who I can ask, I am completely 
stuck. 

It is a pity, as this program is working well and IMO would be a fine addition 
for debian. Personally for me, it is not such big pity, as there is already a 
debian package available, which can be installed and which is working still 
very, very well.

However, it would be much finer, if it could be rebuild with modern libs!

Anyway, I give up, sorry for that.

For those, who want to laugh a little bit over me and maybe fix things within 5 
minutes, I can send my tries in a packed file (2.3 MB). 

Andrei, thank you for inviting me to do those tries. If I wouldn't have tried, 
I wouldn't have recognized, how difficult packaging is. This is also an 
important lesson, I think.

Have a nice weekend!

Best regards

Hans

 


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Debian wheezy 7.4 preseed install fails with error mirror does not support the specified release (wheezy)

2014-02-21 Thread Sandeep Raman

OS - Debian wheezy 7.4 amd64 iso cd1
Preseed section of mirror:
d-i mirror/protocol string ftp
d-i mirror/ftp/hostname string ftp.iitm.ac.in
d-i mirror/ftp/directory string /debian/
d-i mirror/ftp/proxy string

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17t=80657 - Suggestion from the
link to have a static ip has been tested and it doesn't solve the problem
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=684796 - No clear solution

I have given different mirrors and even used http.
From console and browser, i'm able to fetch
ftp://ftp.iitm.ac.in/debian/dists/wheezy/Release

Any pointers in solving this.

Thanks,
Sandeep.

Re: Re: Old software in debian allowed?

If you only need to build a package for yourself, it must be something
similar to that, you should try

# apt-get source FOO_BAR
# apt-get build-dep FOO_BAR
# mv -vi FOO_BAR-xy/ FOO_BAR-pq
# wget FOO_BAR'S_NEW_SOURCE_FROM_UPSTREAM
# tar xvjf FOO_BAR-...
# cd FOO_BAR-...
# gedit debian/changelog
# gedit debian/rules
# libtoolize --force --copy --automake
# aclocal
# autoreconf
# debuild -b -us -uc
# dpkg -i

if this shouldn't work, try to compile the most common way, configure,
make, make install, but replace make only or make and make install by
checkinstall

# ./configure
# checkinstall --install=no
# dpkg -i


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Re: mount as read/write on demand

2014-02-21 Thread binary


i am afraid that the

mount -o remount,rw is not working.

is there a howto for this?
i am running squeeze 6.0.9



Στις 19/2/2014 17:50, ο/η Efraim Flashner έγραψε:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:47:19 +0100
Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:


Le 18/02/2014 15:42, binary dreamer a écrit :

Hello everyone.
  
  
I am running some services in a remote headless system. the system

runs debian 6.
I would like the system to be read only by default. in case of an
update/upgrade I could run in read/write to process the job.
the filesystem is ext2 and it runs in a cf card.
  
I have seen voyage Linux that has this functionality but it misses

kernel headers. It is a real pain to compile the headers in this
underpowered box.
  
I would like to ask if someone could help me create a system

read/write on demand.
  
  
Thanks in advance.
  
  

mount -o remount,rw mount point should do the trick (and mount -o
remount,ro after use)



and change the listing in /etc/fstab from rw to ro



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Re: mount as read/write on demand

2014-02-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU

On Vi, 21 feb 14, 22:25:17, binary wrote:
 i am afraid that the
 
 mount -o remount,rw is not working.

You'll have to give much more detail than this, like what was the 
result/error message/etc.

Kind regards,
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Re: Debian wheezy 7.4 preseed install fails with error mirror does not support the specified release (wheezy)

On 22/02/14 07:00, Sandeep Raman wrote:
 OS - Debian wheezy 7.4 amd64 iso cd1
 Preseed section of mirror:
 d-i mirror/protocol string ftp
 d-i mirror/ftp/hostname string ftp.iitm.ac.in http://ftp.iitm.ac.in
 d-i mirror/ftp/directory string /debian/
 d-i mirror/ftp/proxy string 

That 'should' work - assuming the hostname line wasn't tried verbatim -
and dependant on how you are using preseed.cfg and your boot parameters
(see my questions further down).
ftp 'can' be problematic and if you have a choice choose http.

Try:-
(protocol string doesn't seem to be required if not selecting ftp)
d-i mirror/country string enter information manually
d-i mirror/http/hostname string ftp.iitm.ac.in
d-i mirror/http/directory string /debian/
d-i mirror/http/proxy string

snipped

 
 I have given different mirrors and even used http.
 From console and browser, i'm able to
 fetch ftp://ftp.iitm.ac.in/debian/dists/wheezy/Release
 
 Any pointers in solving this.

First tell us what you are trying to do

Are you adding the preseed.cfg to the CD *or* calling it from the boot
prompt?

What boot parameters are you using?

What is the rest of your preseed.cfg?
NOTE: the answers to the previous two questions determine what's
required for preseed.cfg to work - please put the preseed.cfg on
paste.debian.net and link to it in your post.

Did you try Alt+F4 during the install to see what the problem was? If so
what were the messages?

Have you selected the Save debug logs option which starts a simple web
server and allows you to get meaningful installation information?

 
 Thanks,
 Sandeep.

You may find this preseed.cfg useful to compare yours to:-
http://paste.debian.net/83397
I use it *in* a CD, and boot the CD with:-
install auto DEBCONF_DEBUG=5.
It auto-partitions, builds a stripped-down box, and includes ssh (ssh
installer@ipAddress). Modify it suit your needs and circumstances.

Kind regards


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Installing nodejs binaries as a .deb package

2014-02-21 Thread Blaine LaFreniere

Hi, I was wondering how I might be able to install the nodejs binaries 
as a .deb package, so I could easily uninstall it later.


I tried to use the alien utility to convert a .tgz file to a .deb, but 
after installing with dpkg -i package, it didn't appear to install 
correctly, because I couldn't access the binaries, and when I do `which 
node`, there are no results.



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Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

I have downloaded some proprietary software that I want to install onto a
64-bit Debian machine. The software is written for 64-bit linux, but the
kernel version reported, for example, by uname (and perhaps by some system
call that the compiled software uses) is not in a format that the software
expects.

---BEGIN QUOTE FROM VENDOR---
Its not that
 3.12-1-amd64
isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse
the string
 3.12-1-amd64
they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
 3.12.9-1
then parsing it would yield the expected result.
---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

Is the reported kernel-version string, 3.12-1-amd64, something that I
could change by compiling a custom kernel?

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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

2014-02-21 Thread Glenn English


On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan tevaug...@gmail.com wrote:

 isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse the 
 string
  3.12-1-amd64
 they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
  3.12.9-1
 then parsing it would yield the expected result.
 ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---
 
 Is the reported kernel-version string, 3.12-1-amd64, something that I could 
 change by compiling a custom kernel?

Might a shell script that output the expected string work?

-- 
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Re: Installing nodejs binaries as a .deb package

On 22/02/14 09:49, Blaine LaFreniere wrote:
 Hi, I was wondering how I might be able to install the nodejs binaries
 as a .deb package, so I could easily uninstall it later.

Why not:-
https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager

Or:-
http://blog.blakesimpson.co.uk/read/41-install-node-js-on-debian-wheezy

 
 I tried to use the alien utility to convert a .tgz file to a .deb, but
 after installing with dpkg -i package, it didn't appear to install
 correctly, because I couldn't access the binaries, and when I do `which
 node`, there are no results.
 
 

I've not always had a lot of success with alien in the past, so where
possible I avoid it.

P.S. What Debian release you are trying to install to may be relevant -
likewise any error messages or lack thereof.

Kind regards


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Re: Installing nodejs binaries as a .deb package

On 22/02/14 11:39, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 22/02/14 09:49, Blaine LaFreniere wrote:
 Hi, I was wondering how I might be able to install the nodejs binaries
 as a .deb package, so I could easily uninstall it later.
 
 Why not:-
 https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager
 
 Or:-
 http://blog.blakesimpson.co.uk/read/41-install-node-js-on-debian-wheezy
 

 I tried to use the alien utility to convert a .tgz file to a .deb, but
 after installing with dpkg -i package, it didn't appear to install
 correctly, because I couldn't access the binaries, and when I do `which
 node`, there are no results.


 
 I've not always had a lot of success with alien in the past, so where
 possible I avoid it.
 
 P.S. What Debian release you are trying to install to may be relevant -
 likewise any error messages or lack thereof.

Sorry - hit Enter too soon.

nodejs *is* in the Sid repostitory.

 
 Kind regards
 


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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

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Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 01:35:26 +0100
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On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 17:03 -0700, Glenn English wrote:
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan tevaug...@gmail.com
wrote:

  isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles,
parse the string
   3.12-1-amd64
  they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
   3.12.9-1
  then parsing it would yield the expected result.
  ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

  Is the reported kernel-version string, 3.12-1-amd64, something
that I could change by compiling a custom kernel?

 Might a shell script that output the expected string work?

Or link or what ever? I don't understand what the software is doing,
that the output of uname -r doesn't fit to some other string.

More information is needed.

Sure, Debian packages might be named 3.x for kernels 3.x.y, 3.x.z,
3.x.n. I like this, since I don't need to manually fix my manually
customized grub.cfg, when such a kernel is upgraded and especially those
kernels are updated and older versions automatically will be removed,
while kernels build by myself are never touched.

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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

On 22/02/14 11:03, Glenn English wrote:
 
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan tevaug...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse the 
 string
  3.12-1-amd64
 they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
  3.12.9-1
 then parsing it would yield the expected result.
 ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

 Is the reported kernel-version string, 3.12-1-amd64, something that I 
 could change by compiling a custom kernel?
 
 Might a shell script that output the expected string work?
 


Or sed?
Or export?
Or, um, more information about what Debian release is being used and the
third-party software. :)


Kind regards

---
Dunno how to solve the problem but I know what you need to know to fix
it for me? ;)


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[WARNING] libc6 upgrade from 2.17.97 to 2.18.1 (unstable) fails -now segfaults on apt-get etc.

2014-02-21 Thread Robin

**This of course may apply only to my PC but just in case it is not**:

Just done dist-upgrade 01:30 22/02/2014 and upgrade fails whilst
updating libc6. Applications that were open are still functioning but
everything else segfaults.
Looks like a reinstall

-- 
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Re: Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

 isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse the 
 string
  3.12-1-amd64
 they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
  3.12.9-1
 then parsing it would yield the expected result.
 ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

 Is the reported kernel-version string, 3.12-1-amd64,
 something that I could change by compiling a custom kernel?

 Might a shell script that output the expected string work?

An appropriately named shell script in the right place in the path
might take care of uname(1), but I don't see how to take care of
uname(2), the system call.

When the vendor says that the software parses the string, I think that
the software is calling uname().

So my question is whether there is a way by compiling a custom kernel
for me to alter what the uname() system call reports.

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Re: Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles,
parse the string
3.12-1-amd64
they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
3.12.9-1
then parsing it would yield the expected result.
---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

Is the reported kernel-version string, 3.12-1-amd64, something
that I could change by compiling a custom kernel?

Might a shell script that output the expected string work?

Or link or what ever? I don't understand what the software is doing,
that the output of uname -r doesn't fit to some other string.

I think that the build system is using the uname(1) command, but the
compiled software is calling the uname(2) system call.

More information is needed.

I have not very much information, but let's assume the worst: The vendor
has some compiled code that calls the uname() system call.

Is it possible by compiling a custom kernel for me to make what uname()
returns be the format that the vendor desires, something like '3.12.9-1', or
whatever?

Sure, Debian packages might be named 3.x for kernels 3.x.y, 3.x.z,
3.x.n. I like this, since I don't need to manually fix my manually
customized grub.cfg, when such a kernel is upgraded and especially those
kernels are updated and older versions automatically will be removed,
while kernels build by myself are never touched.

I'm not sure that I understand. The package name is one thing, but isn't
what uname returns something else?

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Re: Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

 isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse 
 the string
  3.12-1-amd64
 they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
  3.12.9-1
 then parsing it would yield the expected result.
 ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

 Is the reported kernel-version string, 3.12-1-amd64, something that I 
 could change by compiling a custom kernel?

 Might a shell script that output the expected string work?

 Or sed?
 Or export?
 Or, um, more information about what Debian release is being used and the
 third-party software. :)

If the compiled program calls the uname() system call, then script-related fixes
won't work. I don't have the source to the compiled program.

I'm running Debian testing (jessie).

 Kind regards

And kind regards to you for replying so promptly to my plea for help!

What I'm wondering is whether I can get uname to return the desired
format by somehow compiling a custom kernel.

If so, then any help doing that properly would be appreciated.

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[Fwd: Re: Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version]

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Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 03:28:15 +0100
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On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 19:20 -0700, Thomas Vaughan wrote:
 What I'm wondering is whether I can get uname to return the desired
 format by somehow compiling a custom kernel.

Yes you can, by getting the source code from kernel.org.
If you simply copy the config from the Debians kernel, then IIRC
# make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers
won't use the Debians naming, but name the package and the output for
uname -r and any string else as the original kernel.org name is.

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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

On 22/02/14 13:20, Thomas Vaughan wrote:
 isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse 
 the string
  3.12-1-amd64
 they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
  3.12.9-1
 then parsing it would yield the expected result.
 ---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

 Is the reported kernel-version string, 3.12-1-amd64, something that I 
 could change by compiling a custom kernel?

 Might a shell script that output the expected string work?

 Or sed?
 Or export?
 Or, um, more information about what Debian release is being used and the
 third-party software. :)
 
 If the compiled program calls the uname() system call, then script-related 
 fixes
 won't work. I don't have the source to the compiled program.

Aaah - more information makes a difference. Yes - sed won't work with
compiled (though you can often make simple changes in a compiled file
with a binary editor - simpler than NOP hops).

an alias will work.

 
 I'm running Debian testing (jessie).
 
 Kind regards
 
 And kind regards to you for replying so promptly to my plea for help!
 
 What I'm wondering is whether I can get uname to return the desired
 format by somehow compiling a custom kernel.

Long way - try an alias first - it 'should' work fine. (The Debian
promise applies - if it breaks you get to keep both pieces).

 
 If so, then any help doing that properly would be appreciated.

Kind regards


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Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

2014-02-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle


On 2/21/2014 9:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan wrote:

isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse the 
string
  3.12-1-amd64
they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string
  3.12.9-1
then parsing it would yield the expected result.
---END QUOTE FROM VENDOR---

Is the reported kernel-version string, 3.12-1-amd64, something that I could 
change by compiling a custom kernel?


Might a shell script that output the expected string work?


Or sed?
Or export?
Or, um, more information about what Debian release is being used and the
third-party software. :)


If the compiled program calls the uname() system call, then script-related fixes
won't work. I don't have the source to the compiled program.

I'm running Debian testing (jessie).


Kind regards


And kind regards to you for replying so promptly to my plea for help!

What I'm wondering is whether I can get uname to return the desired
format by somehow compiling a custom kernel.

If so, then any help doing that properly would be appreciated.



I'm not sure if it will work or not - I'm far from a Debian kernel 
expert.  But one thing to consider: are there any packages which require 
the correct Debian format?  If so, what would happen to them if you 
changed it in the kernel?


Jerry


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