gnome no acaba d'arrencar i el xfce tampoc
Hola, fa pocs dies vaif fer un apt-get dist-upgrade i la dia següent no em va arrencar l'entorn gràfic gnome, es queda el cursor a dalt a l'esquerra i el ratolí en mode gràfic. Sembla com si no acabés el procés. si faig un stop del gdm3 i intento executar startxfce, em passa el mateix. Algú te un suggeriment? *Xavier De Yzaguirre* xdeyzaguirre(at)gmail(dot)com
Re: gnome no acaba d'arrencar i el xfce tampoc
2014-05-17 19:20 GMT+02:00 Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura xdeyzagui...@gmail.com: Hola, fa pocs dies vaif fer un apt-get dist-upgrade i la dia següent no em va arrencar l'entorn gràfic gnome, es queda el cursor a dalt a l'esquerra i el ratolí en mode gràfic. Sembla com si no acabés el procés. si faig un stop del gdm3 i intento executar startxfce, em passa el mateix. Algú te un suggeriment? Hola, Poden passar coses semblants si es fan actualitzacions des de l'entorn gràfic. Un cop em va passar una cosa semblant fent una actualització de l'XFCE (una errada de l'actualització d'un paquet que no tenia en compte que pogués estar executant-se l'entorn en el moment d'actualitzar. Ho vaig comunicar i el mantenidor van passar de mi :/) dient-me que fes les actualitzacions des de mode text. En aquella ocasió, per esbrinar i resoldre la qüestió, vaig consultar el contingut dels fitxers: /var/log/syslog, /var/log/dmesg i /var/log/Xorg.0.log. A veure si examinant-los pots trobar el que passa, i una solució. De vegades passa per reinstal·lar algun paquet. Salutacions, Josep *Xavier De Yzaguirre* xdeyzaguirre(at)gmail(dot)com -- -- Salutacions...Josep --
Re: gnome no acaba d'arrencar i el xfce tampoc
Hola, he reinstal·lat el xfce i ara si que m'ha arrencat. Tot i així, torno a intentar arrencar el gnome i em quedo igual. La reinstal·lació del gnome tampoc canvia res. No se si cercant els fitxers de configuració (imagino que a /home/usuari/.config) i movent-los a una altra banda, s'en crearan de nous, però per si de cas prefereixo esperar els vostres consells. Salut. *Xavier De Yzaguirre* --- Aquest correu electrònic està lliure de virus perquè la protecció de l'avast! Antivirus està habilitada. http://www.avast.com
Re: Re: gnome no acaba d'arrencar i el xfce tampoc
Gràcies Josep. Entenc que ets habitual del XFCE. De moment faré servir aquest entorn i ja aniré provant. Qui sap, igual em quedo amb ell. *Xavier De Yzaguirre* --- Aquest correu electrònic està lliure de virus perquè la protecció de l'avast! Antivirus està habilitada. http://www.avast.com
Re: Re: cervesses de les jornades Debian Women Minidebconf
Jo també m'apunto a la gresca i a una birra. *Xavier De Yzaguirre* --- Aquest correu electrònic està lliure de virus perquè la protecció de l'avast! Antivirus està habilitada. http://www.avast.com
Terminal GNOME 3.12.0
Bonjour, Dans testing Terminal GNOME 3.12.0, le menu contextuel ne propose ouvrir un onglet, mais seulement ouvrir un terminal, je sais qu'avec Crtl+shift+t ça ouvre mon onglet, mais bon je préférai avant. Peut remettre cette entré de menu? Merci
Re: [testing] problème de fermeture de session Gnome
On 05/17/2014 12:50 AM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: On revient au problème de Debian et des versions stables qui durent trop longtemps. C'est pour ça que j'utilise testing depuis de fort nombreuses années mais j'ai de plus en plus de problème avec testing qui est de plus en plus souvent cassé sur de longue période. Tu peux citer des exemples ? -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53772800.7090...@gmail.com
Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues
Le Fri, 16 May 2014 02:29:38 +0200 Jérôme jer...@aranha.fr a écrit: En même temps c'est pas plus mal, pour défiler j'ai un équivalent de roulette sur tous les périphériques de saisie, et à la tablette graphique c'est plus nettement plus pratique comme ça. Sauf que la roulette ça va bien pour des déplacements courts mais ensuite c'est très pénible. Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517133716.62f1797cf2354b1e1eea8...@neuf.fr
Re: Terminal GNOME 3.12.0
Le Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:43AM +0200, Orion a écrit : Dans testing Terminal GNOME 3.12.0, le menu contextuel ne propose ouvrir un onglet, mais seulement ouvrir un terminal, je sais qu'avec Crtl+shift+t ça ouvre mon onglet, mais bon je préférai avant. Peut remettre cette entré de menu? Bonjour, ce n'est pas possible de changer le menu, mais par contre on peut choisir dans les préférences si l'action « Ouvrir un terminal » ouvre une fenêtre ou un onglet. Amicalement, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japon -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517114144.ga15...@falafel.plessy.net
Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues
Le Fri, 16 May 2014 13:54:08 +0200 Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org a écrit: Moi j'ai jeté Enlightement il y a quelques années, il vernait par défaut avec des fontes toitalement ilissibles et le seul moyen de changer passait par un soft graphique auix fontes tout aussi illisibkles que le reste et donbc inutilisable... J'espère que ça s'est arrangé, parceque dans le genre problème à la con... Je l'ai essayé au moment de la sortie de Gnome 3 et j'avais le même problème. J'ai laissé tombé. Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517135303.1dc9fba7fd6f93b2721fc...@neuf.fr
Re: Terminal GNOME 3.12.0
Le Sat, 17 May 2014 20:41:44 +0900 Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org a écrit: Le Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:43AM +0200, Orion a écrit : Dans testing Terminal GNOME 3.12.0, le menu contextuel ne propose ouvrir un onglet, mais seulement ouvrir un terminal, je sais qu'avec Crtl+shift+t ça ouvre mon onglet, mais bon je préférai avant. Peut remettre cette entré de menu? Bonjour, ce n'est pas possible de changer le menu, mais par contre on peut choisir dans les préférences si l'action « Ouvrir un terminal » ouvre une fenêtre ou un onglet. Amicalement, Vachement pratique ! Ça confirme ce que je dis dans un autre fil. Tout pour nous faire chier. D'un autre côté à la vitesse où ils suppriment les fonctionnalités bientôt il n'y aura plus de code dans Gnome ... ;) Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517135845.a00dacb3df32644f141c2...@neuf.fr
Re: Terminal GNOME 3.12.0
Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Le Sat, 17 May 2014 20:41:44 +0900 Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org a écrit: Le Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:43AM +0200, Orion a écrit : Dans testing Terminal GNOME 3.12.0, le menu contextuel ne propose ouvrir un onglet, mais seulement ouvrir un terminal, je sais qu'avec Crtl+shift+t ça ouvre mon onglet, mais bon je préférai avant. Peut remettre cette entré de menu? Bonjour, ce n'est pas possible de changer le menu, mais par contre on peut choisir dans les préférences si l'action « Ouvrir un terminal » ouvre une fenêtre ou un onglet. Amicalement, Vachement pratique ! Ça confirme ce que je dis dans un autre fil. Tout pour nous faire chier. D'un autre côté à la vitesse où ils suppriment les fonctionnalités bientôt il n'y aura plus de code dans Gnome ... ;) Il reste donc windowmaker... :-P JKB -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53775377.50...@systella.fr
Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues
On 05/17/2014 01:53 PM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Le Fri, 16 May 2014 13:54:08 +0200 Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org a écrit: Moi j'ai jeté Enlightement il y a quelques années, il vernait par défaut avec des fontes toitalement ilissibles et le seul moyen de changer passait par un soft graphique auix fontes tout aussi illisibkles que le reste et donbc inutilisable... J'espère que ça s'est arrangé, parceque dans le genre problème à la con... Je l'ai essayé au moment de la sortie de Gnome 3 et j'avais le même problème. J'ai laissé tombé. Les packageurs de Debian portent une *ÉNORME* responsabilité concernant cette intox contre E17. Il serait soit-disant nul, etc... Ils ont fourni après la sortie de la première version E17 des paquets complètement obsolètes, incomplets, pourris jusqu'à l'os, tout simplement inutilisables. J'ai été témoin de ces faits puisque j'ai tenté d'utiliser ces paquets. Effectivement impraticable. Dans le même temps, E17 fonctionnait très bien, sans bug majeur, en le compilant simplement à partir de git. J'ai parallèlement à la même époque utilisé les binaires E17 sur d'autres distributions et cela marchait bien. Cherchez l'erreur... -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53776267.1040...@gmail.com
[Firmware Bug]: AMD-Vi: IOAPIC[0] not in IVRS table
Bonjour, J'ai le message d'erreur au démarrage : [0.002271] ACPI: Core revision 20130725 [0.005673] ACPI: All ACPI Tables successfully acquired [0.010772] [Firmware Bug]: AMD-Vi: IOAPIC[0] not in IVRS table [0.010851] [Firmware Bug]: AMD-Vi: No southbridge IOAPIC found [0.010883] AMD-Vi: Disabling interrupt remapping Puis un autre : [0.159936] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: No _BQC method, cannot determine initial brightness répété 6 fois. Encore plus loin : [0.703363] AMD-Vi: Found IOMMU at :00:00.2 cap 0x40 [0.703365] AMD-Vi: Extended features: PreF PPR GT IA [0.703379] pci :00:00.2: irq 40 for MSI/MSI-X [0.711891] AMD-Vi: Lazy IO/TLB flushing enabled donc ici ça baigne. D'après mes recherches sur gogole, les alertes viendrait d'un BIOS bogué pour ce qui concerne l'APIC. Tous les noyaux 3.12 seraient affectés. C'est un problème qui a au moins 4 ans avec certaines configurations et qui part et réapparait avec un nouveau noyau, disent certains internautes. Même si je n'ai pas remarqué de dysfonctionnement évidents, ces messages d'erreurs sont agaçants. Je suis sous Wheezy avec très peu de testing. J'utilise le noyau upstream 3.12.20, le noyau de debian stable 3.2 est trop lent et le 3.12.0 de backports ne change rien. J'ai mis à jour les firmware-linux en 0.41 de Jessie. Carte-mère (très bonne pour moi) MS-7721, c'est-à-dire MSI A78M-E35 avec un APU A4-5200 d'AMD. Même problème en i386 ou en AMD64. Auriez-vous des suggestions à ce problème ? -- Alain Rpnpif -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517164401.7cedb5a2...@chro.home
Re: Terminal GNOME 3.12.0
Le Sat, 17 May 2014 14:17:59 +0200 BERTRAND Joël joel.bertr...@systella.fr a écrit: Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Le Sat, 17 May 2014 20:41:44 +0900 Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org a écrit: Le Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:43AM +0200, Orion a écrit : Dans testing Terminal GNOME 3.12.0, le menu contextuel ne propose ouvrir un onglet, mais seulement ouvrir un terminal, je sais qu'avec Crtl+shift +t ça ouvre mon onglet, mais bon je préférai avant. Peut remettre cette entré de menu? Bonjour, ce n'est pas possible de changer le menu, mais par contre on peut choisir dans les préférences si l'action « Ouvrir un terminal » ouvre une fenêtre ou un onglet. Amicalement, Vachement pratique ! Ça confirme ce que je dis dans un autre fil. Tout pour nous faire chier. D'un autre côté à la vitesse où ils suppriment les fonctionnalités bientôt il n'y aura plus de code dans Gnome ... ;) Il reste donc windowmaker... :-P Je ne suis pas un grand fan :( Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517190958.bb266c6ff44f2c34ec696...@neuf.fr
Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues
Le Thu, 15 May 2014 23:57:37 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit: Salut, Est-ce quelqu'un sait comment on peut remettre la gestion des ascenseurs dans un mode de fonctionnement normal, à savoir que quand on clique gauche dans le grisé de l'ascenseur ça avance d'une page et non pas un déplacement là où l'on a cliqué. Maintenant c'est sur le clic droit ... Faut vraiment vouloir emmerder le monde pour changer ce fonctionnement. S'ils voulaient mettre leur nouveau truc (dont je ne vois pas l'intérêt au passage), la logique était de le mettre sur le bouton droit plutôt que de modifier un comportement qui existe depuis plus de 10 ans. Il semblerait qu'il existe une préférence pour inverser ce comportement: gtk-primary-button-warps-slider mais je ne sais pas où ça se configure ? Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517210614.41634f3ebf610dd63d65d...@neuf.fr
RE: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues
Cela se config dans le gnome-tweak-tools ? -- ovd valentin@live.fr De : Gaëtan PERRIERmailto:gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr Envoyé : 17/05/2014 21:06 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.orgmailto:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues Le Thu, 15 May 2014 23:57:37 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit: Salut, Est-ce quelqu'un sait comment on peut remettre la gestion des ascenseurs dans un mode de fonctionnement normal, à savoir que quand on clique gauche dans le grisé de l'ascenseur ça avance d'une page et non pas un déplacement là où l'on a cliqué. Maintenant c'est sur le clic droit ... Faut vraiment vouloir emmerder le monde pour changer ce fonctionnement. S'ils voulaient mettre leur nouveau truc (dont je ne vois pas l'intérêt au passage), la logique était de le mettre sur le bouton droit plutôt que de modifier un comportement qui existe depuis plus de 10 ans. Il semblerait qu'il existe une préférence pour inverser ce comportement: gtk-primary-button-warps-slider mais je ne sais pas où ça se configure ? Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517210614.41634f3ebf610dd63d65d...@neuf.fr
Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues
Où ? Sinon j'ai vu ici (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-948904-start-0.html) que ça devrait se faire dans .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini en ajoutant [Settings] gtk-primary-button-warps-slider = false Mais c'est sans effet chez moi... Gaëtan Le Sat, 17 May 2014 21:14:45 +0200 valentin OVD valentin@live.fr a écrit: Cela se config dans le gnome-tweak-tools ? -- ovd valentin@live.fr De : Gaëtan PERRIERmailto:gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr Envoyé : 17/05/2014 21:06 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.orgmailto:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues Le Thu, 15 May 2014 23:57:37 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit: Salut, Est-ce quelqu'un sait comment on peut remettre la gestion des ascenseurs dans un mode de fonctionnement normal, à savoir que quand on clique gauche dans le grisé de l'ascenseur ça avance d'une page et non pas un déplacement là où l'on a cliqué. Maintenant c'est sur le clic droit ... Faut vraiment vouloir emmerder le monde pour changer ce fonctionnement. S'ils voulaient mettre leur nouveau truc (dont je ne vois pas l'intérêt au passage), la logique était de le mettre sur le bouton droit plutôt que de modifier un comportement qui existe depuis plus de 10 ans. Il semblerait qu'il existe une préférence pour inverser ce comportement: gtk-primary-button-warps-slider mais je ne sais pas où ça se configure ? Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517210614.41634f3ebf610dd63d65d...@neuf.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517212122.a85b9fa6018cadf08d1d0...@neuf.fr
RE: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues
https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/GnomeTweakTool?action=showredirect=GnomeTweakTool Installer le paquet du même nom. Mais oui c'est préférable d'utiliser la config car je ne sais pas si le gnome tweak tool permet cela. Tu as bien redémarrer ton pc ? Après la modif. -- ovd valentin@live.fr De : Gaëtan PERRIERmailto:gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr Envoyé : 17/05/2014 21:21 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.orgmailto:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues Où ? Sinon j'ai vu ici (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-948904-start-0.html) que ça devrait se faire dans .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini en ajoutant [Settings] gtk-primary-button-warps-slider = false Mais c'est sans effet chez moi... Gaëtan Le Sat, 17 May 2014 21:14:45 +0200 valentin OVD valentin@live.fr a écrit: Cela se config dans le gnome-tweak-tools ? -- ovd valentin@live.fr De : Gaëtan PERRIERmailto:gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr Envoyé : 17/05/2014 21:06 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.orgmailto:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues Le Thu, 15 May 2014 23:57:37 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit: Salut, Est-ce quelqu'un sait comment on peut remettre la gestion des ascenseurs dans un mode de fonctionnement normal, à savoir que quand on clique gauche dans le grisé de l'ascenseur ça avance d'une page et non pas un déplacement là où l'on a cliqué. Maintenant c'est sur le clic droit ... Faut vraiment vouloir emmerder le monde pour changer ce fonctionnement. S'ils voulaient mettre leur nouveau truc (dont je ne vois pas l'intérêt au passage), la logique était de le mettre sur le bouton droit plutôt que de modifier un comportement qui existe depuis plus de 10 ans. Il semblerait qu'il existe une préférence pour inverser ce comportement: gtk-primary-button-warps-slider mais je ne sais pas où ça se configure ? Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517210614.41634f3ebf610dd63d65d...@neuf.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517212122.a85b9fa6018cadf08d1d0...@neuf.fr
Re: [Firmware Bug]: AMD-Vi: IOAPIC[0] not in IVRS table
Auriez-vous des suggestions à ce problème ? Linux 3.14.4 est disponible dans les backports -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377b4cd.2010...@free.fr
Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues
Ok je connais GnomeTweakTool ce que je demandais c'est où dedans ça se règle parce que je n'ai rien vu de tel ... Je doute même que ce soit dedans car ça semble être lié à GTK-3 et non Gnome. PS: merci de ne pas me mettre en copie dans tes réponses. Je reçois la liste ... Gaëtan Le Sat, 17 May 2014 21:25:54 +0200 valentin OVD valentin@live.fr a écrit: https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/GnomeTweakTool?action=showredirect=GnomeTweakTool Installer le paquet du même nom. Mais oui c'est préférable d'utiliser la config car je ne sais pas si le gnome tweak tool permet cela. Tu as bien redémarrer ton pc ? Après la modif. -- ovd valentin@live.fr De : Gaëtan PERRIERmailto:gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr Envoyé : 17/05/2014 21:21 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.orgmailto:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues Où ? Sinon j'ai vu ici (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-948904-start-0.html) que ça devrait se faire dans .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini en ajoutant [Settings] gtk-primary-button-warps-slider = false Mais c'est sans effet chez moi... Gaëtan Le Sat, 17 May 2014 21:14:45 +0200 valentin OVD valentin@live.fr a écrit: Cela se config dans le gnome-tweak-tools ? -- ovd valentin@live.fr De : Gaëtan PERRIERmailto:gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr Envoyé : 17/05/2014 21:06 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.orgmailto:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues Le Thu, 15 May 2014 23:57:37 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit: Salut, Est-ce quelqu'un sait comment on peut remettre la gestion des ascenseurs dans un mode de fonctionnement normal, à savoir que quand on clique gauche dans le grisé de l'ascenseur ça avance d'une page et non pas un déplacement là où l'on a cliqué. Maintenant c'est sur le clic droit ... Faut vraiment vouloir emmerder le monde pour changer ce fonctionnement. S'ils voulaient mettre leur nouveau truc (dont je ne vois pas l'intérêt au passage), la logique était de le mettre sur le bouton droit plutôt que de modifier un comportement qui existe depuis plus de 10 ans. Il semblerait qu'il existe une préférence pour inverser ce comportement: gtk-primary-button-warps-slider mais je ne sais pas où ça se configure ? Gaëtan -- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517213455.2f3d96b455da3db52d798...@neuf.fr
Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues
Le samedi 17 mai 2014 à 15:21 +0200, maderios a écrit : Les packageurs de Debian portent une *ÉNORME* responsabilité concernant cette intox contre E17. Il serait soit-disant nul, etc... Il me semble surtout que e17 souffre justement d'un manque de packagers... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1400354870.24891.23.camel@azuki
Re: Sin acceso a servidor de pruebas
El día 17 de mayo de 2014, 3:38, Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com escribió: El día 14 de mayo de 2014, 3:04, Juan Guil erj...@gmail.com escribió: El día 14 de mayo de 2014, 4:21, Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com escribió: Hola a la lista. Recientemente, tengo problemas para acceder a mi servidor casero. Primero, porque mi laptop tomó la misma dirección IP que mi server (tardé mucho en saberlo porque, quien sabe qué embrujo le hicieron, no veía el icono de conexión desde mi Debian, tuve que reiniciarlo). Luego de superado este percance, ahora resulta que no puedo ver la info de mi server. Cuando conecto a 192.168.*.***, me dice mi navegador: ¡Vaya! Google Chrome no ha podido establecer conexión con la página 192.168.*.***. Prueba a volver a cargar: 192.168.*.***. Y cuando cargo el filezilla, ¡oh, sorpresa, toda la info está accesible! Y cuando digo toda es desde el directorio '/' hasta el último archivo de '/var', cuando, según el manual que sigo, sólo debería mostrarse '/home/servidor/www'. Y pensando que podía ser un fallo aleatorio, pasa esto: # /etc/init.d/proftpd restart [ ok ] Stopping ftp server: proftpd. [] Starting ftp server: proftpdservidordebian.no-ip.org proftpd[3242]: mod_tls_memcache/0.1: notice: unable to register 'memcache' SSL session cache: Memcache support not enabled servidordebian.no-ip.org proftpd[3242]: warning: unable to determine IP address of 'servidordebian.no-ip.org' servidordebian.no-ip.org proftpd[3242]: error: no valid servers configured servidordebian.no-ip.org proftpd[3242]: Fatal: error processing configuration file '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf' failed! root@servidordebian:~# ls -l /home/servidor total 4 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 may 11 17:44 www root@servidordebian:~# ls -l /home/servidor/www total 4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 may 11 17:44 cgi-bin - /usr/lib/cgi-bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 may 10 13:05 inicio.php lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 may 10 15:40 phpmyadmin - /usr/share/phpmyadmin lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 may 10 16:00 phpsysinfo - /usr/share/phpsysinfo root@servidordebian:~# chmod 777 /home/servidor/www/inicio.php root@servidordebian:~# nano /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf root@servidordebian:~# Ok, ahora sí me tranqué. Quizás se deba a que lee el nombre del servidor de un archivo, y no esté correcto; pero no me queda claro. Por si acaso, /etc/hostname, lo modifiqué hace poco: # cat /etc/hostname servidordebian.no-ip.org ¿y ahora? -- Buen uso de las listas (como se ven en Debian): http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista Ayuda para hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://is.gd/NJIwRz Hola Que tienes puesto en el /etc/hosts? si cambias el /etc/hostname y no modificas el /etc/hosts esto puede hacer que muchas aplicaciones no funcionen Puedes poner el contenido del /etc/hosts tambien? Por cierto, como tienes configurada la ip? cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 servidordebian # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters Por cierto, mi IP es estática: # cat /etc/network/interfaces # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.107 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1 nameserver 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 -- Buen uso de las listas (como se ven en Debian): http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista Ayuda para hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://is.gd/NJIwRz Hola. Cuando tienes una ip fija, debes ponerla en el /etc/hosts. 192.168.0.107 maquina.dominio.org maquina (Cambiando la 127.0.1.1 que es una historia que se han montado para saltarse un bug o algo así...) Mira este enlace: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_hostname_resolution S2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGw=rHh64XWwX3HgoB3-pU3Oau-0zhLph0bGJVtJub-Kx=a...@mail.gmail.com
Prueba de rendimiento.
Estimada comunidad, daros las gracias por vuestra ayuda e interés. He encontrado en Internet numerosos programas para realizar un test de rendimiento a una PC. Pero me gustaría tener de vuestra experiencia en este ámbito por lo que quisiera que me aconsejarais de un software el cual realice esta operación al 100%. Uso Debian Wheezy con entorno XCFE, es un i3-370M (2 nucleos) a 2.4 GHz con 3 GB de RAM y 500 GB de HDD. Muchas gracias. Saludos cordiales. Eugenio Sáenz Munárriz Linux, software libre
Re: Prueba de rendimiento.
El Sat, 17 May 2014 15:30:07 +, Eugenio Sáenz Munárriz escribió: Eugenio, no te olvides de desactivar el formato html al enviar mensajes a la lista :-) Estimada comunidad, daros las gracias por vuestra ayuda e interés. He encontrado en Internet numerosos programas para realizar un test de rendimiento a una PC. Pero me gustaría tener de vuestra experiencia en este ámbito por lo que quisiera que me aconsejarais de un software el cual realice esta operación al 100%. Uso Debian Wheezy con entorno XCFE, es un i3-370M (2 nucleos) a 2.4 GHz con 3 GB de RAM y 500 GB de HDD. Puedes probar sysbench y/o hardinfo (que tiene algunos tests) pero si necesitas medir algo más específico tienes una buena colección de herramientas aquí: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/benchmarking Suelo ejecutar esas pruebas en los nuevos equipos para comprobar que no hay hardware defectuoso o mal instalado, para lo que uso SystemRescueCD y las herramientas de medición de rendimiento que se incluyen (bonnie, cpuburn, iozone...) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.05.17.15.48...@gmail.com
RE: Prueba de rendimiento.
Gracias Camaleón. Saludos cordiales. Eugenio Sáenz Munárriz Linux, software libre P.D.: Espero haber deshabilitado el HTML. To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org From: noela...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Prueba de rendimiento. Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:48:51 + El Sat, 17 May 2014 15:30:07 +, Eugenio Sáenz Munárriz escribió: Eugenio, no te olvides de desactivar el formato html al enviar mensajes a la lista :-) Estimada comunidad, daros las gracias por vuestra ayuda e interés. He encontrado en Internet numerosos programas para realizar un test de rendimiento a una PC. Pero me gustaría tener de vuestra experiencia en este ámbito por lo que quisiera que me aconsejarais de un software el cual realice esta operación al 100%. Uso Debian Wheezy con entorno XCFE, es un i3-370M (2 nucleos) a 2.4 GHz con 3 GB de RAM y 500 GB de HDD. Puedes probar sysbench y/o hardinfo (que tiene algunos tests) pero si necesitas medir algo más específico tienes una buena colección de herramientas aquí: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/benchmarking Suelo ejecutar esas pruebas en los nuevos equipos para comprobar que no hay hardware defectuoso o mal instalado, para lo que uso SystemRescueCD y las herramientas de medición de rendimiento que se incluyen (bonnie, cpuburn, iozone...) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.05.17.15.48...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/dub112-w11020ab56e626fcb525f1aadd...@phx.gbl
Bloqueo del apagado con una carpeta NFS montada
Hola, cuando monto manualmente una carpeta compartida con NFS y trato de apagar el equipo, el apagado se detiene y nunca finaliza. ¿Este es el comportamiento que se considera correcto? Yo esperaba que el equipo desmontara la unidad limpiamente y continuara el apagado. He estado buscando por ahí, y salvo sugerencias de usar autofs no he encontrado nada relevante. ¿Alguien más se ha encontrado en una situación igual? ¿Alguna sugerencia de qué modificar para cambiar ese comportamiento? Muchas gracias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377b46b.9020...@gmail.com
Re: Bloqueo del apagado con una carpeta NFS montada
El día 17 de mayo de 2014, 21:11, Gerardo Diez García gerardo.diez.gar...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, cuando monto manualmente una carpeta compartida con NFS y trato de apagar el equipo, el apagado se detiene y nunca finaliza. ¿Este es el comportamiento que se considera correcto? Yo esperaba que el equipo desmontara la unidad limpiamente y continuara el apagado. He estado buscando por ahí, y salvo sugerencias de usar autofs no he encontrado nada relevante. ¿Alguien más se ha encontrado en una situación igual? ¿Alguna sugerencia de qué modificar para cambiar ese comportamiento? Muchas gracias Buscando he encontrado que había hace unos años un bug relacionando con network-manager que desconectaba la red antes de desmontar el sistema. Echa un vistazo a ver si es algo parecido. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=641894 S2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGw=rHjbm9BdfJgxUSN6Qid3eWu6=iwSY63eJm=oakvtp0l...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Bloqueo del apagado con una carpeta NFS montada
El 17/05/14 21:50, fernando sainz escribió: El día 17 de mayo de 2014, 21:11, Gerardo Diez García gerardo.diez.gar...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, cuando monto manualmente una carpeta compartida con NFS y trato de apagar el equipo, el apagado se detiene y nunca finaliza. ¿Este es el comportamiento que se considera correcto? Yo esperaba que el equipo desmontara la unidad limpiamente y continuara el apagado. He estado buscando por ahí, y salvo sugerencias de usar autofs no he encontrado nada relevante. ¿Alguien más se ha encontrado en una situación igual? ¿Alguna sugerencia de qué modificar para cambiar ese comportamiento? Muchas gracias Buscando he encontrado que había hace unos años un bug relacionando con network-manager que desconectaba la red antes de desmontar el sistema. Echa un vistazo a ver si es algo parecido. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=641894 S2. Muchas gracias. Curioso, apuntan a un cambio del kernel con soporte de PAE. Miraré a ver. PS: Curiosidad ¿bajo qué términos has hecho la búsqueda? Está visto que lo que peor sé hacer es buscar. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377bf37.2040...@gmail.com
Re: Bloqueo del apagado con una carpeta NFS montada
El día 17 de mayo de 2014, 21:57, Gerardo Diez García gerardo.diez.gar...@gmail.com escribió: El 17/05/14 21:50, fernando sainz escribió: El día 17 de mayo de 2014, 21:11, Gerardo Diez García gerardo.diez.gar...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, cuando monto manualmente una carpeta compartida con NFS y trato de apagar el equipo, el apagado se detiene y nunca finaliza. ¿Este es el comportamiento que se considera correcto? Yo esperaba que el equipo desmontara la unidad limpiamente y continuara el apagado. He estado buscando por ahí, y salvo sugerencias de usar autofs no he encontrado nada relevante. ¿Alguien más se ha encontrado en una situación igual? ¿Alguna sugerencia de qué modificar para cambiar ese comportamiento? Muchas gracias Buscando he encontrado que había hace unos años un bug relacionando con network-manager que desconectaba la red antes de desmontar el sistema. Echa un vistazo a ver si es algo parecido. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=641894 S2. Muchas gracias. Curioso, apuntan a un cambio del kernel con soporte de PAE. Miraré a ver. PS: Curiosidad ¿bajo qué términos has hecho la búsqueda? Está visto que lo que peor sé hacer es buscar. Pues no se, ya lo he borrado. Fail shutdown nfs umount Ese bug es muy antiguo, te lo he pasado para que mires a ver si el problema puede venir de algo parecido, a ver si puedes hacer alguna prueba. S2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGw=rHhOxcn7ov76vNJ7ðhZAHV±hrmb2e8cq6g4d-rt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Bloqueo del apagado con una carpeta NFS montada
El 17/05/14 22:21, fernando sainz escribió: El día 17 de mayo de 2014, 21:57, Gerardo Diez García gerardo.diez.gar...@gmail.com escribió: El 17/05/14 21:50, fernando sainz escribió: El día 17 de mayo de 2014, 21:11, Gerardo Diez García gerardo.diez.gar...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, cuando monto manualmente una carpeta compartida con NFS y trato de apagar el equipo, el apagado se detiene y nunca finaliza. ¿Este es el comportamiento que se considera correcto? Yo esperaba que el equipo desmontara la unidad limpiamente y continuara el apagado. He estado buscando por ahí, y salvo sugerencias de usar autofs no he encontrado nada relevante. ¿Alguien más se ha encontrado en una situación igual? ¿Alguna sugerencia de qué modificar para cambiar ese comportamiento? Muchas gracias Buscando he encontrado que había hace unos años un bug relacionando con network-manager que desconectaba la red antes de desmontar el sistema. Echa un vistazo a ver si es algo parecido. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=641894 S2. Muchas gracias. Curioso, apuntan a un cambio del kernel con soporte de PAE. Miraré a ver. PS: Curiosidad ¿bajo qué términos has hecho la búsqueda? Está visto que lo que peor sé hacer es buscar. Pues no se, ya lo he borrado. Fail shutdown nfs umount Ese bug es muy antiguo, te lo he pasado para que mires a ver si el problema puede venir de algo parecido, a ver si puedes hacer alguna prueba. S2. Apuntan a un cambio aun kernel PAE, o al uso de unos scripts que autodesmonten. Como luego me he dado cuenta de que yo uso en ese equipo un kernel de 64 pues me lanzaré a los scripts, pero eso ya será mañana. En los enlaces que hay en el bug apuntan a un foro que indica que es algo que aún continua en Wheezy. Será uno de esos bugs que como no afectan a muchos ahí siguen. De nuevo muchas gracias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377c704.4010...@gmail.com
OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7
buenas tardes!! les escribo con la finalidad de conseguir opiniones sobre como es la mejor forma o opcion para clonar un hdd con windows 7 le explico mi inutil pero gran problema tengo una laptop HP que posee un HDD de 750GB pero el disco me esta dando una alerta de que se dañara! el tiene windows7 de 64bits compre un HDSS de 1TB ahora necesito clonarlo para pasar toda la informacion para el otro disco duro y asi mi papa en su laptop no pierda las licencias de windows y de autocad que le costo mucho rial asi como sus archivos! que programa y procedimiento debo usar! espero por una gran solucion de parte de ustedes! Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CADfsJo2Dh4=egxpjz3qq4v5uf9ew6vhax0j1jfo9pycno3j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7
usa norton ghost El 17/05/14 16:35, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: buenas tardes!! les escribo con la finalidad de conseguir opiniones sobre como es la mejor forma o opcion para clonar un hdd con windows 7 le explico mi inutil pero gran problema tengo una laptop HP que posee un HDD de 750GB pero el disco me esta dando una alerta de que se dañara! el tiene windows7 de 64bits compre un HDSS de 1TB ahora necesito clonarlo para pasar toda la informacion para el otro disco duro y asi mi papa en su laptop no pierda las licencias de windows y de autocad que le costo mucho rial asi como sus archivos! que programa y procedimiento debo usar! espero por una gran solucion de parte de ustedes! Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377d39e.7020...@vtr.net
Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7
Edward, Puedes clonarlo desde el linux sin ninguna herramienta adicional. Tienes varias opciones. Si el disco no tiene sectores dañados: cat /dev/sdb /dev/sdc (suponiendo que esas fueran las unidades a clonar) Utilizando dd dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=10M En caso de que tuviera algún sector dañado te recomiendo clonarlo con el ddrescue Te paso un ejemplo: ddrescue -d -f -r3 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /tmp/logfile.log Para más información http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue_es.html Saludos! Ezequiel - Mensaje original - De: Edward Villarroel (EDD) edward.villarr...@gmail.com Fecha: Sábado, Mayo 17, 2014 5:35 pm Asunto: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7 buenas tardes!! les escribo con la finalidad de conseguir opiniones sobre como es la mejor forma o opcion para clonar un hdd con windows 7 le explico mi inutil pero gran problema tengo una laptop HP que posee un HDD de 750GB pero el disco me esta dando una alerta de que se dañara! el tiene windows7 de 64bits compre un HDSS de 1TB ahora necesito clonarlo para pasar toda la informacion para el otro disco duro y asi mi papa en su laptop no pierda las licencias de windows y de autocad que le costo mucho rial asi como sus archivos! que programa y procedimiento debo usar! espero por una gran solucion de parte de ustedes! Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.orgArchive: https://lists.debian.org/CADfsJo2Dh4xpjz3qq4v5uf9ew6vhax0j1jfo9pycno3j...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bc62cb0bb898.5377e...@fibertel.com.ar
[OT] Seguridad
Hola Les cuento una corta historieta. Una ONG a quien asisto voluntariamente, ya no pueden pagar los costos de mantener un servidor Debian; y uno de los Abogados mas jovenes; el que se opone a tener el servidor Debian, llego con la idea del Hosting gratuito. Asi que, ayer obtuvimos una cuenta en FreeHosting (recomendado por el), y pasamos todo a dicho sitio; el servidor es un Ubuntu, el dia de hoy, descubrimos que posiblemente a sido hackeado. El nombre cambia de costumers a costumres.freehosting.com (DNS poisoned? MiTM?) y todos los dominios que probe, no tienen registro y son redirecciones. Inmediatamente, cambie las DNS y la IP, apuntando a una IP segura. Pero la pregunta es si hay muchos web hosting en las mismas condiciones? ya sean gratuitos o no. Yo solo administro 4 servidores, y hago todo a mano. Alli usan cPanel (PHP) y una serie de paquetes, que solo aumentan las capas de software. Ahora, viene la interrogante: Nos habremos contaminado de alguna forma? La intranet, es de 5 ordenadores (3 Debian, 1 W7 y 1 Mac); por las dudas, los Debian seran reinstalados! y el Debian estable, que uso para administrar, tambien le toca instalacion limpia. gracias por leer hasta aqui. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/339fe691f302c8f3222388346976b768.squir...@mail.vcn.bc.ca
Re: [OT] Seguridad
On Sat, 17 May 2014 21:06:37 -0700 lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Supongo que una manera es pasarle clamav regularmente a los archivos esos. Clamav debería a ver notado alguna especie de intromisión. Una de tantos factores que pudo a ver pasado. No te puedo decir muchos mas ya que no vi los log de ftp u ssh si usaban para administrar esa web. -- Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/plus MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina pgpnQdxcHAmsb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Nyare MineTest på Stable
2014-05-17 0:59 GMT+02:00 Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com: 2014-05-16 12:13 GMT+02:00 Staffan Melin (Oscillator) Jag kör Debian 7 Stable. Min dotter och jag kör en del MineTest (MineCraft-klon) mot amerikanska servrar (världar) men har tvingats till Win7 för att vi behöver senaste version av klienten/programmet (0.49). Debian stable har bara 0.31 har jag för mig. Hur ska jag tänka kring att indtroducera nyare paket? Jag vill inte bryta något i min välfungerande stable-installation (det är min arbetsdator som jag är starkt beroende av). Bäst att kompilera själv? Det gick bra att bygga själv på stable. Följde https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3t=3837sid=720867b90b9eef946bdc255e2890b9a2start=25 och det finns bra beskrivning över beroenden på: http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Compiling_on_GNU.2FLinux Det låter som att du inte byggde ett Debianpaket? Om du lägger till en deb-src rad med unstable i din sources.list kan du hämta hem källpaketet med apt-get source minetest. Om du installerar devscripts kan du använda debcheckout för att hämta hem källkoden till paketet, förutsatt att det är definierat av utvecklarna i paketet. Båda dessa borde gå att bygga så att du får ut debianpaket som du sen kan installera/radera/uppgradera/osv precis som vanligt. Tack! Nytt för mig att jag kan göra så, intressant, ska testa. Klienten listar dock inga servrar men det går bra att ange dem manuellt (lista på http://minetest.net/servers). Hur hittar den servrarna vanligtvis? Den listar dem automagiskt under en flik (Client). Den har ett gemensamt GUI för både klient och server, smidigt. Staffan -- Staffan Melin Oscillator - ord bild form Kryssdäcket 1 SE-413 27 GÖTEBORG SVERIGE/SWEDEN www.oscillator.se staffan.me...@oscillator.se +46 (0)70-4876 250 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAERjL6en-nBpvF0LmAw-L2oQuQ2Jex0YShg917re=otxe2k...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Will Iceweasel stay open source?
http://xkcd.com/386/ /raffaele
Re: squeeze lts
On May 16, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Much appreciated. Me and the OP wish we had read the page on the link you gave. He does indeed. In answer to a question, I love to get links to a vast store of data. Thanks for the info. -- Glenn English -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/b23a5c2d-aa0c-47c7-a85c-af1b89379...@slsware.net
Re: Tails
On Fri, May 16, 2014 5:02 pm, Joel Rees wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Sent: 05/17/14 02:26 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails The adjectives describing journalist are completely irrelevant; what purpose do they serve? Advertising for a sugar daddy on this list is a first. :). I agree with you, Brian. The post by Weaver certainly seems like an advertisement put up by a pimp :) Well, I wouldn't know. I'll have to bow to your superior knowledge. I was assuming that Brian was being a little more direct than Art. Anyway, I think the point about the choice of words has been made. No, I think Brian was genuine, more in the community spirit I was seeking. BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version 7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct? https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=tails First result when I checked just now, but since the archives will likely outlast the ranking, it's a live derivative of Debian with a useful collection of privacy/anonymity tools, which would be particularly useful to a journalist. That's exactly what it is. Just trying to keep the girl safe, as she leaves journalist school and heads out into the wild world of investigative journalism, which is where she wants to go. Cheers! Weaver. -- It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. -- Thomas Paine Registered Linux User: 554515 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/3d72b6398267d20d6f5c04cec99eec70.squir...@fruiteater.riseup.net
Random hard freezes Wheezy
Hello. On one server I intermittently encounter hard freezes. Server does not react, ping, or ctrl+alt+del. Just caps lock and num lock flashes. Only a power off from button helps to start server, after which it runs until again this happens. This is the log I've saw on monitor: __netif_receive_skb+0x3fb/0x42d select_task_rq_fair+0x389/0x667 paravirt_read_tsc+0x5/0x8 native_sched_clock+0x27/0x2f test_tsk_need_resched+0xa/0x13 resched_task+0x39/0x65 check_preempt_curr+0x36/0x5f ttwu_do_wakeup+0x50/0xc4 page_fault+0x2/0x30 delayed_work_tiemr_fn+0xc/0x1e run_timer_softirq+0x19a/0x261 __queue_work+0x24c/0x24c timekeeping_get_ns+0xd/0x2a __do_softirq+0xb9/0x177 call_softirq+0x1c/0x30 do_softirq+0x3c/0x7b irq_exit+0x3c/0x99 smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x74/0x82 apic_timer_interrupt+0x6e/0x80 EOI rcu_idle_cpu+0x80/0x1bb mwait_idle+0x71/0xac mwait_idle+0x72/0xac cpu_idle+0xaf/0xf2 start_secondary+0xd5/0x1db This I wrote from monitor. I can't find this long in any files in /var/log. The last syslog I see is: May 16 20:58:33 srv75 kernel: [964599.385413] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:33 srv75 kernel: [964599.453234] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:34 srv75 kernel: [964599.521359] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:34 srv75 NetworkManager[2669]: info (eth1): carrier now OFF (device state 10) May 16 20:58:35 srv75 kernel: [964601.377367] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:35 srv75 kernel: [964601.441345] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:35 srv75 kernel: [964601.457347] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:35 srv75 kernel: [964601.481490] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:36 srv75 kernel: [964601.545376] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:36 srv75 kernel: [964601.613469] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:38 srv75 kernel: [964603.537367] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:38 srv75 kernel: [964603.601333] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:38 srv75 kernel: [964603.617366] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:38 srv75 kernel: [964603.641390] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:38 srv75 kernel: [964603.709262] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:38 srv75 kernel: [964603.773498] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:40 srv75 kernel: [964605.989385] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:40 srv75 kernel: [964606.053304] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:40 srv75 kernel: [964606.069368] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:40 srv75 kernel: [964606.093361] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:40 srv75 kernel: [964606.161337] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:40 srv75 kernel: [964606.177362] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:40 srv75 kernel: [964606.233433] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:42 srv75 kernel: [964608.317506] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:42 srv75 kernel: [964608.417395] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:42 srv75 kernel: [964608.437444] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:42 srv75 kernel: [964608.453374] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:43 srv75 kernel: [964608.509455] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link down May 16 20:58:43 srv75 kernel: [964608.541280] r8169 :04:02.0: eth1: link May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: imklog 5.8.11, log source = /proc/kmsg started. May 17 09:13:27 srv75 rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd swVersion=5.8.11 x-pid=2759 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] start May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] Linux version 3.2.0-4-amd64 (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Debian 4.6.3-14) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=0c313e79-aa26-452a-82ec-943eba6e3cbe ro quiet May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map: May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] BIOS-e820: - 0009fc00 (usable) May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved) May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] BIOS-e820: 000e4000 - 0010 (reserved) May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0010 - bffe (usable) May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] BIOS-e820: bffe - bffef000 (ACPI data) May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] BIOS-e820: bffef000 - bfff (ACPI NVS) May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] BIOS-e820: bfff - c000 (reserved) May 17 09:13:27 srv75 kernel: [0.00] BIOS-e820:
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Fri, 16 May 2014 12:06:51 -0700 Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote: Here is an attempt to answer all of the questions and suggestions: I am definitely installing Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 ( I checked the grub config files) You'll have to stop telling only half of the story, if you want help with this. You have been asked for the output of dpkg --print-architecture multiple times now. I try to never use anything but the standard Debian distros. To do otherwise is inviting all sorts of problems. I religiously upgrade and update my system using Aptitude - especially before adding new software. Good. What is a paquet?. VirtualBox is obviously installing 32 bit headers but since this is the only program that I am aware of that does this, what is the problem? The problem is that the 32 bit kernel modules that are compiled with it will not work with your 64 bit kernel. As be seen for your icedove version, it's not the only thing that is installed in 32 bit versions. Another comment on the above and the Mozilla User Agent comment: I am sure that much of the software in the Wheezy distro is not 64 bit software ( Mozilla included) and usually co-exists nicely with the 64 bit system. Only a very tiny amount of software is not available in 64 bit version. Nice idea about using the VirtualBox:amd64 program but no joy. The program requires a 64 bit version of a Python library that is not included in the distro. Somebody needs to correct this. Again, tell the whole story. Which library? What is the output of apt-get ? If amd64 included in dpkg --print-foreign-architecture ? Any ideas will be sincerely appreciated. I really need to get this problem solved. Gary R. Based on the incomplete information you have given: You will either have to either : - find a way the install 64 bit virtualbox, with 64 bit kernel modules on your 32 installation with 64 bit kernel - downgrade your kernel to 32 bit, so that it matches the rest of your architecture: linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae - Reinstall as a pure 64 bit system - Reinstall as a pure 32 bit system -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517102729.426d0...@orac.fil
Re: Will Iceweasel stay open source?
On 2014-05-17, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: censure? Did we miss something? Ric Yes :) Some more riveting moments... on ... Come on Down Debian .. have we got some fun for you tonight. I never know what the hell you're talking about. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlne7n7.252.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Tails
On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote: Greetings all, Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil? There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't got the slightest idea of how to go about it. Any father figures up for a free gig? FWIW, I consider this method of making a request inappropriate. I'm sure some will disagree with me; so be it. Others have commented in the past that those who don't stick up for the rights of others than themselves are part of the problem. I agree with that to some extent, hence my comment. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/537726a2.9060...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Security updates for hold package
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 19:35:40, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: - Original Message - From: Andrei POPESCU Sent: 05/15/14 04:50 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Security updates for hold package Assumptions: 1. You did not change the default priority for backports How does one change default priority for backports? What will happen if I change the default priority? Depends on how you change it, but the default works just fine, you don't need to adjust it. If you want to read more about it see man apt_preferences 2. You installed the linux-image-version-flavor package from backports and *not* the corresponding meta-package linux-image-flavour. Yes, I installed the linux-image-version-flavor package from backports. What is a meta-package? A meta-package is a package that exists only to depend on other packages. In the case of linux-image-flavour it will depend on the current kernel from the *same* release. Other meta-packages are used to install entire collections of software, or ensure automatic transitions when package names change (also called transition or dummy packages). Is it necessary to install it? Depends on what you want to achieve. If you somehow need (e.g. for hardware support) a newer kernel than available in stable I would advise you install linux-image-flavour from backports: apt-get install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-amd64 (you didn't mention which flavour you are using so I guessed amd64) This will make sure you're always upgraded to the current kernel in backports. Do make sure to keep the previous backports kernel around, in case you have troubles with the newer kernel. However, if you don't really need a newer kernel you might as well stay with stable. Just because you can doesn't mean you have to install a newer one. If your linux-image-flavour is from backports such changes will not be picked up automatically. What should I do to ensure that backported linux-image-flavor pick up such changes? This is out of your hands. As a user you can only choose between installing linux-image-flavour from stable, which will always depend on the latest stable kernel, or the version from backports, which will always depend on the latest backports kernel. You haven't yet stated why you need the backports kernel, but if you want to keep using it install the backports meta-package. The stable kernel will still be upgraded until an ABI bump happens (which may as well never happen for the lifetime of wheezy). It is a good idea to subscribe to the debian-security-announce mailing list, such changes will be announced there (along with all other security updates). Also, if you only keep it around as a double insurance it doesn't matter so much if it's not up-to-date, as long as it boots correctly. Just remember to update it if you use it for more than just a recovery boot. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
DMenu for Debian 7 Xfce
Hi, I used Crunchbang Linux for some time. There was a great menu which would appear with Alt+F3. It's used for launching applications installed in the system. They called it Alt Menu. It's actual name may be DMenu. Now my question is, has anyone used this DMenu in Xfce? Does it work flawlessly? Or, is there any great alternatives? Thanks. -Muntasim Ul Haque -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53772a4d.6040...@inventati.org
Re: Live CD/DVD's Debian Wheezy
On 17 May 2014 11:28, Gayle Lee Fairless fairl...@hiwaay.net wrote: I downloaded some .iso's for Debian Wheezy live CD/DVD's and we could not find the superuser access since we were looking at them at night class. This is for a Linux system administration class. Please copy the Professor because he is not on the list. The Debian Wheezy Live environment is built with root login disabled, and with sudo configured for the live user. So any command can be run as root by prepending sudo, and a root password is not required. Here is an actual tested example that should work the same for you: $ ls -al /root ls: cannot open directory /root: Permission denied $ sudo ls -al /root total 2 drwx-- 2 root root 46 Apr 26 06:34 . drwxr-xr-x 29 root root 220 May 17 19:30 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 570 Jan 31 2010 .bashrc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 140 Nov 19 2007 .profile -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAMPXz=qvJAX52BkoL-_Y73=zN8R8iui-C5Gi2=v_2ouyg-v...@mail.gmail.com
Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management
On Vi, 16 mai 14, 15:38:17, Curt wrote: On 2014-05-15, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-condemns-partnership-between-mozilla-and-ado= be-to-support-digital-restrictions-management I use RMS as a guide in the same way that a boat captain would use a lighthouse. It's good to know where it is, but you generally don't want to find yourself in the same spot. -- seen on debian-devel How about Cory Doctorow (or is he another lighthouse?) http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/14/firefox-closed-source-drm-video-browser-cory-doctorow Quote from that article: By open-sourcing the sandbox that limits the Adobe software’s access to the system, Mozilla is making it auditable and verifiable. This is a much better deal than users will get out of any of the rival browsers, like Safari, Chrome and Internet Explorer, and it is a meaningful and substantial difference. Do you really think somebody who pays the subscription fee for HBO GO, or any other such service will not dump Firefox the second she realises it isn't able to play the stream? I think Mozilla's stance to DRM and (to get somewhat back on topic) Debian's stance on non-free software in general and firmware in particular is good to the masses of users who don't know or don't care about their digital freedoms. It sends the message look, this (DRM, non-free software, firmware, etc.) is *bad* for you. Normally it shouldn't even be necessary for you to install it. Unfortunately X, Y and Z will not work without it, so if you really need this we'll do our best to protect you from the evil things it might do, though this is not always possible. Maybe you consider this on your next service, hardware, etc. purchase. Yes, FSF and Cory Doctorow and all others are right to make noise about this (DRM and so). It raises awareness, it sets ideals, etc., but when you're vastly outnumbered ideals won't win the war. And neither does attacking your allies. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Random hard freezes Wheezy
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:43:49, Mimiko wrote: Hello. On one server I intermittently encounter hard freezes. Server does not react, ping, or ctrl+alt+del. Just caps lock and num lock flashes. That's a kernel panic. Only a power off from button helps to start server, after which it runs until again this happens. [snip eth1 link down messages] May 16 20:58:34 srv75 NetworkManager[2669]: info (eth1): carrier now OFF (device state 10) Network Manager on a server? [snip more syslog eth1 link down messages] There's really not much information to even start guessing. Here are some tips you can try: - test your RAM (memtest) - try a newer kernel (e.g. from backports) - check temperatures (CPU, case, etc.) - fsck all partitions - check and/or replace if possible the power source of the server - make sure you have all necessary firmware installed (check output of 'dmesg | grep firmware') To receive further help from this list you could: - attach full output of 'dmesg' immediately after a successful boot (run 'dmesg dmesg.txt' and attach 'dmesg.txt') - upload somewhere a picture of the screen with the kernel panic Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Tails
- Original Message - From: Weaver Sent: 05/17/14 03:30 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails That's exactly what it is. Just trying to keep the girl safe, as she leaves journalist school and heads out into the wild world of investigative journalism, which is where she wants to go. Cheers! Weaver. Weaver, if you're genuinely sincere about helping the female journalist wannabe, you could write to Glen Greenwald or his partner David Miranda. Glen Greenwald is THE investigative journalist entrusted by Edward Snowden to reveal the truths behind the evil surveillance machinery maintained by the NSA and GCHQ. Both Glen and David ARE residing in Brazil. They are in the best position to help your female friend. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517102708.268...@gmx.com
Re: Tails
- Original Message - From: Richard Hector Sent: 05/17/14 05:06 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote: Greetings all, Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil? There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't got the slightest idea of how to go about it. Any father figures up for a free gig? FWIW, I consider this method of making a request inappropriate. I'm sure some will disagree with me; so be it. Others have commented in the past that those who don't stick up for the rights of others than themselves are part of the problem. I agree with that to some extent, hence my comment. Richard I totally agree with you, Richard, on this. Moreover I have just discovered, after googling, that Tails provides free technical support via a mailing list. Weaver should have posted a request for help on behalf of the investigative journalist wannabe to that mailing list. It's the most appropriate thing to do. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517103002.268...@gmx.com
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Vi, 16 mai 14, 12:06:51, Gary Roach wrote: Any ideas will be sincerely appreciated. I really need to get this problem solved. We can't help you if you don't provide more information, at a minimum. dpkg --print-architecture dpkg --foreign-architectures Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Vi, 16 mai 14, 22:25:04, Linux-Fan wrote: As others already suggested, you are likely to use a mixed AMD64 + i386 system which confuses the automatic installation of Virtualbox' kernel modules. No, I believe it's much more simpler that that: $ apt-cache show dkms Package: dkms Version: 2.2.0.3-1.2 ... Recommends: fakeroot, menu | sudo, linux-headers-686-pae | linux-headers-amd64 | linux-headers-generic | linux-headers, linux-image As you can see, linux-headers-686-pae is listed before linux-headers-amd64 and apt/itude simply installs the first one, because it can't determine which one you really need. Even if the OP installs the correct kernel headers, the i386 virtualbox (which the OP has installed) will *not* work with the -amd64 kernel, regardless of his architecture: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=456391 Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Vi, 16 mai 14, 22:25:04, Linux-Fan wrote: As others already suggested, you are likely to use a mixed AMD64 + i386 system BTW, until now there is *zero* evidence to support this. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Tails
Oh, for crying out loud. Look, guys, Weaver just used an unfortunate turn of phrase, one that is very easily interpreted in a way that would be really inappropriate, but was clearly not meant that way. I'm sure none of you guys have ever used words that could be misinterpreted? Артур's comments had to have been an inappropriate jest, although I'm sure he intended to communicate the same thing that Brian intended. Maybe the tail mailing list would be more appropriate, but the problem is finding people in Brazil who would be willing to do a free service gig by dd-ing an image of (debian-derived) tail onto a USB for the journalist and introducing her to an appropriate local user group. A debian user group would probably be easier to find than a tail user group. Life is not a nihilist novel, and we do not have to interpret everything people say in such terms. (sigh) -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iNX2MY5gPML_XQv=TmFhXa3ET6=GTLKt=mzcls1jhn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management
Andrej, Dňa Sat, 17 May 2014 12:50:52 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com napísal: Yes, FSF and Cory Doctorow and all others are right to make noise about this (DRM and so). It raises awareness, it sets ideals, etc., but when you're vastly outnumbered ideals won't win the war. And neither does attacking your allies. Can i have ideals too? Or are the ideals reserved for FSF, Cory Doctorow, etc? Yes, i can! And when i have my own ideals, am i enough free (and have i enough of the free) to tell, that i am disappointed? Tell, that i disagree with Mozilla, Adobe, Google, etc... Yes, i can disagree with them! Can i see, that from DRM is only small step to ACTA (or similar), if no other see it? Yes, i can this too! Need i allow shoppers to go into my home, to they can see that i am not a burglar? To they can check that i don't steal nothing? No! Really no! I am not a burglar and even if i will burglar, there is judge, which need to allow this. Then, why i need to allow that companies come into my home and use *MY* computer (without paying for this) to protect *THEIR* right? No, no, no! I respect their rights and expect, that they will respect my rights! Don't forget, that justice is not when all criminals are imprisoned and/or punished, but when no one blameless is persecuted. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management
On 5/17/14, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: Andrej, Dňa Sat, 17 May 2014 12:50:52 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com napísal: Yes, FSF and Cory Doctorow and all others are right to make noise about this (DRM and so). It raises awareness, it sets ideals, etc., but when you're vastly outnumbered ideals won't win the war. And neither does attacking your allies. Can i have ideals too? Or are the ideals reserved for FSF, Cory Doctorow, etc? Yes, i can! And when i have my own ideals, am i enough free (and have i enough of the free) to tell, that i am disappointed? Tell, that i disagree with Mozilla, Adobe, Google, etc... Yes, i can disagree with them! Can i see, that from DRM is only small step to ACTA (or similar), if no other see it? Yes, i can this too! Need i allow shoppers to go into my home, to they can see that i am not a burglar? To they can check that i don't steal nothing? No! Really no! I am not a burglar and even if i will burglar, there is judge, which need to allow this. Then, why i need to allow that companies come into my home and use *MY* computer (without paying for this) to protect *THEIR* right? No, no, no! I respect their rights and expect, that they will respect my rights! Well said. Don't forget, that justice is not when all criminals are imprisoned and/or punished, but when no one blameless is persecuted. Very eloquent and beautiful words. Thank you Slavko. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caosgnss9+tbcp95d5ilfopbwuoa-zr3qcof87cfkkwcu8cj...@mail.gmail.com
[totally OT] experience with Seagate Barracuda and NAS drives
Hi: Just asking for your experience with above mentioned hard drives. I had some 1TB and 2GB Barracuda drives failing with very erratic behaviour. As a last resort before trashing them I removed the circuit board. On the contacts for the heads and also on the washer-shaped contacts for the srews I found a brownish-reddish film. I removed it with a white soft eraser. After assembling the drives they work OK ever since. Now I bought two 2GB Seagate NAS drives and on one I found the same film on the contacts - just not as bad as on the drives which failed. I bought the 1TB drives locally in PY but the 2GB NAS drives came from a European supplier. Has somebody around here made similar experiences with those drives? If you don't mind to waste your time responding to this message ;-) Cheers Eike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1472170.43XtndgKTg@lxcl01
Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 13:08:06, Slavko wrote: Can i have ideals too? Or are the ideals reserved for FSF, Cory Doctorow, etc? Yes, i can! I never said you or I or Mozilla or Debian don't have ideals (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). In fact I would find it offensive is someone would imply that. However, having (the same) ideals says nothing about the means one is using to try to reach them. In my opinion FSF is pushing Mozilla to fight a battle it can't win. At least not now. And when i have my own ideals, am i enough free (and have i enough of the free) to tell, that i am disappointed? Tell, that i disagree with Mozilla, Adobe, Google, etc... Yes, i can disagree with them! I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall Can i see, that from DRM is only small step to ACTA (or similar), if no other see it? Yes, i can this too! Need i allow shoppers to go into my home, to they can see that i am not a burglar? To they can check that i don't steal nothing? No! Really no! I am not a burglar and even if i will burglar, there is judge, which need to allow this. Then, why i need to allow that companies come into my home and use *MY* computer (without paying for this) to protect *THEIR* right? No, no, no! I respect their rights and expect, that they will respect my rights! Nobody forces you to install the add-on, certainly not Mozilla or Debian. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: Andrej, Dňa Sat, 17 May 2014 12:50:52 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com napísal: Yes, FSF and Cory Doctorow and all others are right to make noise about this (DRM and so). It raises awareness, it sets ideals, etc., but when you're vastly outnumbered ideals won't win the war. And neither does attacking your allies. I think both sides of this flame war are feeling attacked? Can i have ideals too? Or are the ideals reserved for FSF, Cory Doctorow, etc? Yes, i can! [...] . Then, why i need to allow that companies come into my home and use *MY* computer (without paying for this) to protect *THEIR* right? [...] What Mozilla is doing is providing a framework for keeping the companies that want into your computer out, by providing them tools to get only what the law allows them and no more. The theory would seem to be that the various national Constitutions will keep laws worse than the DMCA from being passed. In other words, no one wants to believe that reasoning national assemblies would really pass laws requiring such APIs, where they exist, to be implemented and functional. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iPazN4i+186dP=twtqrm0tpczns4eoc8i913zhogz4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: DMenu for Debian 7 Xfce
Hi Muntasim, I can confirm that, once properly configured, dmenu works flawlessly in XFCE. However, I subsequently set up shortcut keys for my most used applications via the XFCE control panel, and now I find that I rarely use it. John On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 03:22:21PM +0600, Muntasim Ul Haque wrote: Hi, I used Crunchbang Linux for some time. There was a great menu which would appear with Alt+F3. It's used for launching applications installed in the system. They called it Alt Menu. It's actual name may be DMenu. Now my question is, has anyone used this DMenu in Xfce? Does it work flawlessly? Or, is there any great alternatives? Thanks. -Muntasim Ul Haque -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53772a4d.6040...@inventati.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517123223.gb3...@clark17v.rootsmkt.com
Re: Tails
On 2014-05-16, Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.com wrote: BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version 7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct? Whatever Tails is god bless the plural. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlneloe.252.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management
On 5/17/14, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 13:08:06, Slavko wrote: Can i have ideals too? Or are the ideals reserved for FSF, Cory Doctorow, etc? Yes, i can! I never said you or I or Mozilla or Debian don't have ideals (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). In fact I would find it offensive is someone would imply that. However, having (the same) ideals says nothing about the means one is using to try to reach them. In my opinion FSF is pushing Mozilla to fight a battle it can't win. At least not now. I tend to agree with this sentiment. And when i have my own ideals, am i enough free (and have i enough of the free) to tell, that i am disappointed? Tell, that i disagree with Mozilla, Adobe, Google, etc... Yes, i can disagree with them! I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall Great timing for this quote! Can i see, that from DRM is only small step to ACTA (or similar), if no other see it? Yes, i can this too! Need i allow shoppers to go into my home, to they can see that i am not a burglar? To they can check that i don't steal nothing? No! Really no! I am not a burglar and even if i will burglar, there is judge, which need to allow this. Then, why i need to allow that companies come into my home and use *MY* computer (without paying for this) to protect *THEIR* right? No, no, no! I respect their rights and expect, that they will respect my rights! Nobody forces you to install the add-on, certainly not Mozilla or Debian. Unfortunately, common sense is not so common in a lot of people's reactions. I appreciate what the Mozilla devs have achieved (although I think their endless UI changes and various UI plugins being broken over and over and OVER, is simply horrendous! - still, they're doing the development, not me..) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSSiBZcaZLk3j9nyjs=Fghgs2jf=imgkdyrnekf-wrl...@mail.gmail.com
(Solved) Re: Live CD/DVD's Debian Wheezy
Thanks! That did it! I did sudo su at a terminal prompt and achieved the same result. Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless fairl...@ieee.org On Sat, 17 May 2014, David wrote: On 17 May 2014 11:28, Gayle Lee Fairless fairl...@hiwaay.net wrote: I downloaded some .iso's for Debian Wheezy live CD/DVD's and we could not find the superuser access since we were looking at them at night class. This is for a Linux system administration class. Please copy the Professor because he is not on the list. The Debian Wheezy Live environment is built with root login disabled, and with sudo configured for the live user. So any command can be run as root by prepending sudo, and a root password is not required. Here is an actual tested example that should work the same for you: $ ls -al /root ls: cannot open directory /root: Permission denied $ sudo ls -al /root total 2 drwx-- 2 root root 46 Apr 26 06:34 . drwxr-xr-x 29 root root 220 May 17 19:30 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 570 Jan 31 2010 .bashrc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 140 Nov 19 2007 .profile -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.lrh.2.03.1405170832170.16...@hiwaay.net
Re: (Solved) Re: Live CD/DVD's Debian Wheezy
On 17/05/14 09:34 AM, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: Thanks! That did it! I did sudo su at a terminal prompt and achieved the same result. Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless fairl...@ieee.org On Sat, 17 May 2014, David wrote: On 17 May 2014 11:28, Gayle Lee Fairless fairl...@hiwaay.net wrote: I downloaded some .iso's for Debian Wheezy live CD/DVD's and we could not find the superuser access since we were looking at them at night class. This is for a Linux system administration class. Please copy the Professor because he is not on the list. The Debian Wheezy Live environment is built with root login disabled, and with sudo configured for the live user. So any command can be run as root by prepending sudo, and a root password is not required. Here is an actual tested example that should work the same for you: $ ls -al /root ls: cannot open directory /root: Permission denied $ sudo ls -al /root total 2 drwx-- 2 root root 46 Apr 26 06:34 . drwxr-xr-x 29 root root 220 May 17 19:30 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 570 Jan 31 2010 .bashrc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 140 Nov 19 2007 .profile sudo bash also works. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/537767f3.8050...@torfree.net
Re: (Solved) Re: Live CD/DVD's Debian Wheezy
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 08:34:47, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: Thanks! That did it! I did sudo su at a terminal prompt and achieved the same result. sudo can be interactive as well, try 'sudo -i' or 'sudo -s'. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: iodined: open_tun: /dev/net/tun: Operation not permitted
thanks. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:03:24PM +, Morning Star wrote: Hi guys, I got error when executing iodined at my vps: $ sudo iodined -f -P test1 192.168.0.1 localhost iodined: open_tun: /dev/net/tun: Operation not permitted: Operation not permitted so i check -. iodine version: iodine IP over DNS tunneling server version: 0.5.1 from 2009-03-21 -. uname 2.6.32-042stab068.8 #1 SMP Fri Dec 7 17:06:14 MSK 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -. ls -l /dev/net/tun rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 10, 200 May 5 00:24 /dev/net/tun how can i resolve this problem? thanks in advance. Check that the tun module is loaded (lsmod will tell you, modprobe tun will insert it if not). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cad9kj0pe0_huw19kxpsng+gyl_y0iyols5odo18qxr_ozbw...@mail.gmail.com
[ask] avoid conflict between 2 same usb modem
hi guys, i have 2 same 3g modem. i install the linux driver from the modem storage. if i plug the first modem into pc's usb, the 8 devices links will appear as below: crw--- 1 root root 188, 0 May 17 21:18 /dev/ttyUSB0 crw--- 1 root root 188, 1 May 17 21:18 /dev/ttyUSB1 crw--- 1 root root 188, 2 May 17 21:18 /dev/ttyUSB2 crw-rw 1 root root 188, 3 May 17 21:18 /dev/ttyUSB3 crw-rw 1 root root 188, 4 May 17 21:18 /dev/ttyUSB4 crw-rw 1 root root 188, 1 May 17 21:18 /dev/ttyUSB_utps_diag crw-rw 1 root root 188, 0 May 17 21:21 /dev/ttyUSB_utps_modem crw-rw 1 root root 188, 2 May 17 21:30 /dev/ttyUSB_utps_pcui when the i plug the second modem into pc'usb, the same device links will appear and also will overide for ttyUSB_utps_diag, ttyUSB_utps_modem, and ttyUSB_utps_pcui. the rest are ttyUSB5, ttyUSB6, ttyUSB7,ttyUSB8, ttyUSB9. if i used ttyUSB_utps_modem in a program, the device will be conflict because the second modem is attached to the pc. how should i manage this in order to avoid such that conflict? thanks in advance. regards, marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cad9kj0phqkknxhdx1stjrc-xi+7bdtzmxrqb8i-norr3-ny...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Re: DMenu for Debian 7 Xfce
Thanks John. I'll now use the Xfce-Settings manager instead for assigning shortcuts. -Muntasim Ul Haque -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377743b.1070...@iut-dhaka.edu
Re: Tails
On 20140517_0902+0900, Joel Rees wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Sent: 05/17/14 02:26 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails ...snip... BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version 7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct? https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=tails First result when I checked just now, but since the archives will likely outlast the ranking, it's a live derivative of Debian with a useful collection of privacy/anonymity tools, which would be particularly useful to a journalist. More info... Tails is an acronym from The Amnesic Incognito Live System. It is the result of a merger of two earlier projects, Amnesia and Incognito. Amnesia was a effort to wrap Tor inside a system that made sure to erase all 'memory' of a Tor communication after it is completed, thus frustrating after the fact forensics. Incognito was a project to create a live system to manage all the details of securely setting up and dismantling a Tor communication channel. The combined system is an effort to gather into one project all the best practice in using Tor to accomplish completely private and secure communication over the internet. It is used by the security expert and blogger Bruce Schneier, who mentions it in his most recent monthly blog, available at: http://www.schneier.com It was also used by Edward Snowden in effecting his famous leak of NAS documents, as I discovered by following some of Schneier's links. The developers of Tails use it to maintain their own secret identities while working on the project, so it is a significant departure from the traditional open software development ethic(1). The liveness of Tails stems from it using Debian Live as its live starting point. There is plenty to argue and bloviate about here. I only know what I learned/surmised from about 30 min of googling. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net 1) From what I can tell, the software *is* free as in freedom and as in beer. But the process of producing it is very much secret for fear of it being disrupted by law enforcement authorities, I suppose. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517145917.ga21...@big.lan.gnu
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On 05/17/2014 01:27 AM, Filip wrote: On Fri, 16 May 2014 12:06:51 -0700 Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote: Here is an attempt to answer all of the questions and suggestions: I am definitely installing Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 ( I checked the grub config files) You'll have to stop telling only half of the story, if you want help with this. You have been asked for the output of dpkg --print-architecture multiple times now. I try to never use anything but the standard Debian distros. To do otherwise is inviting all sorts of problems. I religiously upgrade and update my system using Aptitude - especially before adding new software. Good. What is a paquet?. VirtualBox is obviously installing 32 bit headers but since this is the only program that I am aware of that does this, what is the problem? The problem is that the 32 bit kernel modules that are compiled with it will not work with your 64 bit kernel. As be seen for your icedove version, it's not the only thing that is installed in 32 bit versions. Another comment on the above and the Mozilla User Agent comment: I am sure that much of the software in the Wheezy distro is not 64 bit software ( Mozilla included) and usually co-exists nicely with the 64 bit system. Only a very tiny amount of software is not available in 64 bit version. Nice idea about using the VirtualBox:amd64 program but no joy. The program requires a 64 bit version of a Python library that is not included in the distro. Somebody needs to correct this. Again, tell the whole story. Which library? What is the output of apt-get ? If amd64 included in dpkg --print-foreign-architecture ? Any ideas will be sincerely appreciated. I really need to get this problem solved. Gary R. Based on the incomplete information you have given: You will either have to either : - find a way the install 64 bit virtualbox, with 64 bit kernel modules on your 32 installation with 64 bit kernel - downgrade your kernel to 32 bit, so that it matches the rest of your architecture: linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae - Reinstall as a pure 64 bit system - Reinstall as a pure 32 bit system Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture = i386, --print-foreign-architectures = amd64 Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53777edb.5080...@verizon.net
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture = i386, --print-foreign-architectures = amd64 And there it is - you are running a 32-bit system with a 64-bit kernel. Cheers, Tom -- QOTD: I never met a man I couldn't drink handsome. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
latest sendmail on testing
Recent install of jessie as vbox guest vm on win 7 64bit Preferring sendmail to exim I installed the testing package for sendmail and of course that uninstalled a few things, including exim. So, my first run at sendmail , just starting the service # service sendmail start [] Starting Mail Transport Agent (MTA): sendmailcan not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): No such file or directory Warning: Cannot use HostStatusDirectory = /var/lib/sendmail/host_status: No such file or directory I would have thought the install of a pkg would also create any needed directories for the pkg to operate. Is it normal for user to create these things? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87bnuw5qxv@newsguy.com
Re: Will Iceweasel stay open source?
Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com writes: No - you didn't. Please learn to read and stop spreading more rubbish (or just go back to setting fire to cats and winos). Good lord Scott, we're getting a bit wild here aren't we... hehe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/877g5k5qqt@newsguy.com
Re: Tails
On Saturday 17 May 2014 00:12:48 Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version 7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct? Yes, correct. And Testing is Jessie. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405171810.44724.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture = i386, --print-foreign-architectures = amd64 And there it is - you are running a 32-bit system with a 64-bit kernel. Cheers, Tom And how do I correct this? Note: All of my source.list entries are prefaced with [arch=amd64,i386]. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53779c87.8070...@verizon.net
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture = i386, --print-foreign-architectures = amd64 And there it is - you are running a 32-bit system with a 64-bit kernel. Cheers, Tom And how do I correct this? Simple: install linux-image-686-pae, which will pull in the current kernel for your release. Complicated: reinstall using Debian amd64. Note: All of my source.list entries are prefaced with [arch=amd64,i386]. This is not really necessary unless you want to use different sources per arch (which is not your case, you're using the same sources). Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
systemd situation in Jesssie
Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? any insight would be appreciated thanks, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377a358.1040...@aol.com
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
Le 17/05/2014 19:58, Martin Vegter a écrit : Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? any insight would be appreciated thanks, Martin I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, policy-rc.d, how to get logs (because of journald), etc... I'd prefer to *prepare* the transition rather than see something broke... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377a86c.3060...@rail.eu.org
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? Depending on your needs, installing systemd might be mandatory in unstable already (e.g. gdm3 indirectly depends on it), but you do _not_ have to install systemd-sysv and thus make it the default init system. I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? Why would installing systemd remove half of your system, and why do you expect that your servers will not boot with systemd as init? Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87tx8oi670@turtle.gmx.de
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Re: latest sendmail on testing
On Sat, 17 May 2014 12:07:56 -0400 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Recent install of jessie as vbox guest vm on win 7 64bit Preferring sendmail to exim I installed the testing package for sendmail and of course that uninstalled a few things, including exim. So, my first run at sendmail , just starting the service # service sendmail start [] Starting Mail Transport Agent (MTA): sendmailcan not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): No such file or directory Warning: Cannot use HostStatusDirectory = /var/lib/sendmail/host_status: No such file or directory I would have thought the install of a pkg would also create any needed directories for the pkg to operate. Is it normal for user to create these things? No, it's not normal. The post-install scripts should create a working initial configuration where it at least starts up. Try reinstalling with the --reinstall option. apt-get install sendmail --reinstall apt-get install sendmail-base --reinstall apt-get install sendmail-bin --reinstall Does that give any errors ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517212752.236ac...@orac.fil
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On 05/17/2014 11:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture = i386, --print-foreign-architectures = amd64 And there it is - you are running a 32-bit system with a 64-bit kernel. Cheers, Tom And how do I correct this? Simple: install linux-image-686-pae, which will pull in the current kernel for your release. Complicated: reinstall using Debian amd64. Note: All of my source.list entries are prefaced with [arch=amd64,i386]. This is not really necessary unless you want to use different sources per arch (which is not your case, you're using the same sources). Kind regards, Andrei I think we have a misunderstanding here. I am running a 64 bit system. While I can boot to the linux-image-686-pae kernel, this will set up a 32 bit OS which is not what I want. I'm running an Intel DP55KG board with an i5-750, 4 core 64 bit buss processor and would like to use the full capability of the board. If the software is thinking that I am running a 32 bit system, then something desperately needs correcting. But what? Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377b9b4.8070...@verizon.net
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
Le 17/05/2014 20:57, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? Depending on your needs, installing systemd might be mandatory in unstable already (e.g. gdm3 indirectly depends on it), but you do _not_ have to install systemd-sysv and thus make it the default init system. So systemd-sysv is the real systemd ? or is there someting else ? I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? Why would installing systemd remove half of your system, and why do you expect that your servers will not boot with systemd as init? Because systemd changes everythçing, is not mature, that people already had problems (fstab had to be changed in some cases) that even the debian systemd wiki says some existing features are not supported (yet ?) and stay silent on other (eg. I have a policy-rc.d script, how to migrate it). Systemd also completeley change the log systems (see journald) and nowhere can I see explanations on the new one, and how to migrate. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377b69d.1060...@rail.eu.org
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Sat, 17 May 2014 12:34:12 -0700 Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/17/2014 11:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture = i386, --print-foreign-architectures = amd64 And there it is - you are running a 32-bit system with a 64-bit kernel. Cheers, Tom And how do I correct this? Simple: install linux-image-686-pae, which will pull in the current kernel for your release. Complicated: reinstall using Debian amd64. Note: All of my source.list entries are prefaced with [arch=amd64,i386]. This is not really necessary unless you want to use different sources per arch (which is not your case, you're using the same sources). Kind regards, Andrei I think we have a misunderstanding here. I am running a 64 bit system. While I can boot to the linux-image-686-pae kernel, this will set up a 32 bit OS which is not what I want. I'm running an Intel DP55KG board with an i5-750, 4 core 64 bit buss processor and would like to use the full capability of the board. If the software is thinking that I am running a 32 bit system, then something desperately needs correcting. But what? Gary R. To get a full 64 bit system, reinstall from an amd64 installation medium. There are no shortcuts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517214543.5b464...@orac.fil
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:57:39, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? Depending on your needs, installing systemd might be mandatory in unstable already (e.g. gdm3 indirectly depends on it), but you do _not_ have to install systemd-sysv and thus make it the default init system. Actually gdm3 Depends: libpam-systemd, which Depends: systemd-sysv, so yes, you do. network-manager and gnome-bluetooth also depend on libpam-systemd. I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? Why would installing systemd remove half of your system, and why do you expect that your servers will not boot with systemd as init? I'd be curious as well. There are still some integration issues, but my system boots just fine. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:20:28, Erwan David wrote: I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, invoke-rc.d is only meant for scripts, you should be using service (which works fine with both initscripts and systemd). policy-rc.d, What are you using it for? how to get logs (because of journald), etc... Not sure what you mean here, logging works just as it used to. I'd prefer to *prepare* the transition rather than see something broke... Install a sid system and go ahead. How else can the developers know of issues that may only appear on your systems? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Martin Vegter martin.veg...@aol.com wrote: I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? On unstable, these are the packages that require systemd as pid 1: 1) # aptitude search -F %p ~Ddepends:systemd-sysv gpsd libpam-systemd mandos sysvinit 2.a) # aptitude search -F %p ~Ddepends:gpsd gpsd-dbg gpsdrive gpsdrive-scripts # aptitude search -F %p ~Ddepends:gpsdrive gpsdrive gpsdrive-scripts # aptitude search -F %p ~Ddepends:gpsdrive-scripts 2.b) # aptitude search -F %p ~Ddepends:libpam-systemd gdm3 gnome-bluetooth network-manager policykit-1 2.b.i) # aptitude search -F %p ~Ddepends:gdm3 gdm3 gnome-core gnome-shell libgdm-dev xfswitch-plugin 2.b.ii) # aptitude search -F %p ~Ddepends:gnome-bluetooth gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gnome-bluetooth gnome-control-center gnome-core gnome-core-devel gnome-phone-manager gnome-shell gnome-user-share libgnome-bluetooth-dev network-manager-gnome 2.b.iii) # aptitude search -F %p ~Ddepends:network-manager gnome libnm-glib-dev libnm-glib-vpn-dev libnm-gtk-dev libnm-util-dev modem-manager-gui network-manager-dbg network-manager-gnome network-manager-iodine-gnome network-manager-openconnect network-manager-openconnect-gnome network-manager-openvpn-gnome network-manager-pptp-gnome network-manager-strongswan network-manager-vpnc-gnome plasma-nm python-networkmanager sucrose-0.96 sucrose-0.98 2.b.iv) # aptitude search -F %p ~Ddepends:polykit-1 nothing 2.c) # aptitude search -F %p ~Ddepends:mandos nothing -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzqRfpzUH0=sawreuaupuscftvejycuh_8ofr+ycmw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 21:21:01, Erwan David wrote: So systemd-sysv is the real systemd ? or is there someting else ? systemd-sysv contains a /sbin/init symlink pointing to /lib/systemd/systemd. This will make your system boot with systemd. If you just want to test it you should rather just install the systemd package and boot with init=/bin/systemd as a kernel parameter. I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? Why would installing systemd remove half of your system, and why do you expect that your servers will not boot with systemd as init? Because systemd changes everythçing, is not mature, that people already had problems (fstab had to be changed in some cases) that even the debian systemd wiki says some existing features are not supported (yet ?) and stay silent on other (eg. I have a policy-rc.d script, how to migrate it). Systemd also completeley change the log systems (see journald) and nowhere can I see explanations on the new one, and how to migrate. See my other mail. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 12:34:12, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 11:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture = i386, --print-foreign-architectures = amd64 And there it is - you are running a 32-bit system with a 64-bit kernel. And how do I correct this? Simple: install linux-image-686-pae, which will pull in the current kernel for your release. Complicated: reinstall using Debian amd64. Note: All of my source.list entries are prefaced with [arch=amd64,i386]. This is not really necessary unless you want to use different sources per arch (which is not your case, you're using the same sources). I think we have a misunderstanding here. I am running a 64 bit system. No you're not. You might have some Architecture: amd64 packages installed (my guess is not many, if any), but this doesn't make your system 64 bit. You can check with aptitude search '?installed?architecture(amd64)' Just because you're using the kernel package with -amd64 in its *name* (which is most probably also an Architecture: i386 package, even if it does contains the 64 bit kernel) doesn't make your entire system 64 bit. While I can boot to the linux-image-686-pae kernel, this will set up a 32 bit OS which is not what I want. I'm running an Intel DP55KG board with an i5-750, 4 core 64 bit buss processor and would like to use the full capability of the board. You'll have to reinstall using a Debian amd64 image. However, I'll doubt you'll notice any difference. In theory a cross-grade is also possible, but it's complicated and may break in interesting ways. Of course, if you'll be re-installing anyway, why not try it out? If the software is thinking that I am running a 32 bit system, Software doesn't think, that's your job. then something desperately needs correcting. But what? Your assumptions? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: Le 17/05/2014 20:57, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? Depending on your needs, installing systemd might be mandatory in unstable already (e.g. gdm3 indirectly depends on it), but you do _not_ have to install systemd-sysv and thus make it the default init system. So systemd-sysv is the real systemd ? or is there someting else ? systemd-sysv uninstalls sysvinit-core and takes over /sbin/init so systemd is used as pid 1. If you don't install systemd-sysv, you have to add init=/lib/systemd/systemd to the kernel cmdline in order to use systemd as pid 1. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SwXUZHj7LCrmwj=uj0qqcs1ff56d8sp9ncvogd0vny...@mail.gmail.com
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On 2014-05-17 21:21 +0200, Erwan David wrote: Le 17/05/2014 20:57, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? Depending on your needs, installing systemd might be mandatory in unstable already (e.g. gdm3 indirectly depends on it), but you do _not_ have to install systemd-sysv and thus make it the default init system. So systemd-sysv is the real systemd ? or is there someting else ? The systemd-sysv package contains only a few manpages and symlinks which replace binaries found in sysvinit, most notably /sbin/init which is PID 1. Everything else lives in the systemd package which you can install along sysvinit (and boot with init=/bin/systemd to try it out). I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? Why would installing systemd remove half of your system, and why do you expect that your servers will not boot with systemd as init? Because systemd changes everythçing, is not mature, that people already had problems (fstab had to be changed in some cases) There are currently problems with NFS mounts, those prevent the package in unstable back from migrating to testing[1]. If you don't have inaccessible filesytems in fstab, there should be no need to change anything. that even the debian systemd wiki says some existing features are not supported (yet ?) and stay silent on other (eg. I have a policy-rc.d script, how to migrate it). Maintainer scripts are supposed to use invoke-rc.d which knows about systemd, and AFAIK nothing changes wrt policy-rc.d. Systemd also completeley change the log systems (see journald) and nowhere can I see explanations on the new one, and how to migrate. Logs are forwarded to the syslog daemon, so you don't have to learn anything new if you don't want to. Cheers, Sven 1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=746358 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87lhu0i325@turtle.gmx.de
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
Le 17/05/2014 21:45, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:20:28, Erwan David wrote: I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, invoke-rc.d is only meant for scripts, you should be using service (which works fine with both initscripts and systemd). policy-rc.d, What are you using it for? Do various tests before alowing some services to be started how to get logs (because of journald), etc... Not sure what you mean here, logging works just as it used to. I'd prefer to *prepare* the transition rather than see something broke... Install a sid system and go ahead. How else can the developers know of issues that may only appear on your systems? That's not possible without a documentation first. And in sid I'll have unrelated problems. However I just saw (from your other message), that I have for some toime systemd running on a testing laptop. And I think it explains the slowness at boot and stop... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: latest sendmail on testing
Filip fi...@fbvnet.be writes: On Sat, 17 May 2014 12:07:56 -0400 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Recent install of jessie as vbox guest vm on win 7 64bit Preferring sendmail to exim I installed the testing package for sendmail and of course that uninstalled a few things, including exim. So, my first run at sendmail , just starting the service # service sendmail start [] Starting Mail Transport Agent (MTA): sendmailcan not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): No such file or directory Warning: Cannot use HostStatusDirectory = /var/lib/sendmail/host_status: No such file or directory I would have thought the install of a pkg would also create any needed directories for the pkg to operate. Is it normal for user to create these things? No, it's not normal. The post-install scripts should create a working initial configuration where it at least starts up. Try reinstalling with the --reinstall option. apt-get install sendmail --reinstall apt-get install sendmail-base --reinstall apt-get install sendmail-bin --reinstall Does that give any errors ? Sounds like a plan... thanks. One problem... I've diddled around with the files inside of /etc/mail a fair bit and even though I think I keep original copies of anything I changed. It would be easier if I just rm -rf /etc/mail. So wondering if on a brand new install from the lxde iso, if there would already be a an /etc/mail If so I'll have to pick thru and try my best to get it back to original condition. I'd hate for some awkward ill-advised thing I've done to make the even a reinstall a non-starter. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8738g85eli@newsguy.com
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Sat, 17 May 2014 22:45:53 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:20:28, Erwan David wrote: I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, invoke-rc.d is only meant for scripts, you should be using service (which works fine with both initscripts and systemd). policy-rc.d, What are you using it for? how to get logs (because of journald), etc... Not sure what you mean here, logging works just as it used to. Yes, journald is set up to forward to syslog, so you can continue to use the logs in /var/log as before. Unless you create directory /var/log/journal the binary log will only be kept in memory. You can still view it with journalctl. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517221841.7d3cf...@orac.fil
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: Le 17/05/2014 19:58, Martin Vegter a écrit : I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, policy-rc.d, how to get logs (because of journald), etc... For invoke-rc.d: There's a recent thread about it. For policy-rc.d: What are you doing with it? For the logs: All you need to do is have rsyslog installed and have ForwardToSyslog=yes in /etc/systemd/journald.conf for rsyslog to function as it always has - and AFAIK this is the default setup in Debian. I doubt that the systemd maintainers would want to start yet another big flame war by defaulting to an rsyslog-free journald-only setup or a journald setup that doesn't forward logs to rsyslog. Even on Fedora, the rsyslog-free journald-only F20 release (the latest) generated a pretty big fight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzpfwamYPgXs6R_ZBGuM=sa+rknqv+hygfxmsemba1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: latest sendmail on testing
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: No, it's not normal. The post-install scripts should create a working initial configuration where it at least starts up. Try reinstalling with the --reinstall option. apt-get install sendmail --reinstall apt-get install sendmail-base --reinstall apt-get install sendmail-bin --reinstall Does that give any errors ? Sounds like a plan... thanks. One problem... I've diddled around with the files inside of /etc/mail a fair bit and even though I think I keep original copies of anything I changed. It would be easier if I just rm -rf /etc/mail. So wondering if on a brand new install from the lxde iso, if there would already be a an /etc/mail If so I'll have to pick thru and try my best to get it back to original condition. I'd hate for some awkward ill-advised thing I've done to make the even a reinstall a non-starter. Sorry... just a little sniveling... you can scrap that post. I've done a little research with dpkg -L to find out what all sendmail pkgs install. Once I've done what you suggested... I'll try back if there is still a problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87tx8o3znk@newsguy.com
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
Le 17/05/2014 22:02, Tom H a écrit : On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: Le 17/05/2014 20:57, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? Depending on your needs, installing systemd might be mandatory in unstable already (e.g. gdm3 indirectly depends on it), but you do _not_ have to install systemd-sysv and thus make it the default init system. So systemd-sysv is the real systemd ? or is there someting else ? systemd-sysv uninstalls sysvinit-core and takes over /sbin/init so systemd is used as pid 1. If you don't install systemd-sysv, you have to add init=/lib/systemd/systemd to the kernel cmdline in order to use systemd as pid 1. I do not particularly want to use it. I juste want to be prepared for when the switch will be compulsory. And there is a package called systemd which thus is *not* the systemd used as init, but something else ? And what about systemd-shim ? When to use one, when to use another ? Thare are many packages, the documentation is sparse, and very difficult to read (vocabulary, construction of the text, etc...) eg take the man of systemd-logind. At the end there is a link to inhibition lock documentation; However it is the first mention of those inhibition locks... Take systemd.service man age : speaks of sections, units without any definitions of what is a unit and what is a section. For the latter one can guess it must be sothing looking like a windows .ini file, but not sure yet : the existing doc seems to be redacted *against* all unix admins knowledge and habits. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377c6b7.9060...@rail.eu.org
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
Le 17/05/2014 22:18, Filip a écrit : On Sat, 17 May 2014 22:45:53 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:20:28, Erwan David wrote: I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, invoke-rc.d is only meant for scripts, you should be using service (which works fine with both initscripts and systemd). policy-rc.d, What are you using it for? how to get logs (because of journald), etc... Not sure what you mean here, logging works just as it used to. Yes, journald is set up to forward to syslog, so you can continue to use the logs in /var/log as before. Unless you create directory /var/log/journal the binary log will only be kept in memory. You can still view it with journalctl. I prefer *not* seeing any binary stuff. Same as I woulkd prefer think not depending on, d-bus which gave me many headaches in the past and even removed sfeatures from some softwares (eg emacs which now emits a warning when you launch it in a ssh -X session) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377c919.5030...@rail.eu.org
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
Le 17/05/2014 22:24, Tom H a écrit : For policy-rc.d: What are you doing with it? Mainly checking that some encrypted disk is mounted for the corresponding daemons to be started or not. And No, this encrypted disk is NOT mounted at boot, since I want this machine to be able to boot completely unattended, with a subset of the daemons started. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377caa3.7010...@rail.eu.org
