SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED
On 15-06-09 8:15 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Have you used this printer with lpd before? Everything I find on Google says it only speaks a proprietary protocol called bjnp. Which should be covered by the cups-backend-bjnp package. http://setdosa.blogspot.se/2009/02/setting-up-canon-pixma-mx850-on-ubuntu.html And the hat's off to Sven Arvidsson for this really, truly, wonderful, no hassle find. Awesome. I just printed the test page in less than 5 minutes. When you consider I spent, between two days, about 8 hours; this is truly wonderful. I'm of two minds; whether I should have asked earlier, save some time. Or, not come quickly with all questions without first trying to solve stuff. I suppose the answer is a sensible balance. But thanks, Sven, thanks a whole lot. At this point, I think I'm almost done making this switch. And I thank you very much, Mr. Arvidsson. And as well to all those who pitched in. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55780e7e.6000...@gmx.de
Re: adding network printer
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:27:12 +0200 notoneofmy notoneofmyse...@gmx.de wrote: On 15-06-09 8:15 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Have you used this printer with lpd before? Everything I find on Google says it only speaks a proprietary protocol called bjnp. Which should be covered by the cups-backend-bjnp package. http://setdosa.blogspot.se/2009/02/setting-up-canon-pixma-mx850-on-ubuntu.html ...and what more, and this is very important, it did not ask me to select a driver. It automagically found and selected the right. I the link asked to select a particular driver; that wasn't an option presented. Now, now, if I can only scan to the machine. That will be asking too much, I suppose, given Canon's retrogressive moves by not opening up their drivers. That's OK, printing is good enough. http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON : Lists the Pixma MX850 support as Complete with All resolutions supported (up to 2400DPI). Flatbed, ADF simplex and Duplex supported. over both USB and Ethernet, with the pixma backend (see the sane-pixma manpage). So that should work out-of-the-box. :) Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgp24ghfmgnMz.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: problemas con tamaño de apt mirrors
¿Alguien sabe que he hecho para merecer esto? Lo que podrías haber hecho, en vez de borrarlo todo sin más, es examinar cuidadosamente lo que había allí. Si las marcas de tiempo son recientes sabrías que el causante es algún proceso o paquete actualmente instalado. Si no lo son, podría ser algo que probaste en tiempos y ahí se quedó. Pero como lo has borrado todo te quedarás con la duda y tendrás que esperar a ver si aparece algo otra vez. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610110457.ga16...@cantor.unex.es
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
Enlloc no diu que s'exposin les adreces electròniques de forma literal per tal que es puguin capturar de forma automatitzada. Potser no m'hagi explicat bé, però no tinc cap problema amb què els arxius siguin públics. Per exemple, en aquests arxius no hi ha tant problema en això de les adreces: http://llista.gilug.org/mailman/listinfo/usuaris M'agradaria saber si hi ha algú que encara no hagi vist mai un web on es publica una adreça electrònica però en un format especial per minimitzar la captura dels «spammers». El 10/06/15 a les 12:25, Robert Marsellés ha escrit: Hola, El 10/06/15 a les 10:02, Narcis Garcia ha escrit: Debian.org és un referent, és el referent sobre Debian GNU/Linux i no és tant fàcil despatxar la gent amb un «doncs vés a un lloc on et tractin millor, o calla». Hom no acudeix a Debian fent una inspecció prèvia «a veure quines decepcions o abusos m'esperen aquí». Convé fer les coses bé, però donar exemple encara és millor. La meva opinió és que enlloc de queixar-se després d'apuntar-se a rés o signar qualsevol document, abans s'ha de llegir la documentació. A la documentació de les llistes de Debian hi ha tot un apartat on es diu que es tracta d'una llista pública [1]. És la primera vegada que usen negreta a la pàgina web. Suposo que perquè saben el què significa. No entenc a què ve ara la sorpresa, ni què significa haver de fer les coses bé. Si es llegeix la documentació és prou clar. Si no interessa que l'adreça d'un estigui en un lloc públic quan el lloc avisa que es públic, el millor és evitar el lloc. Això no té rés a veure amb que un marxi de cap lloc. Alguns ja han proposat solucions alternatives. Salut i peles, robert [1] https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610114956.a5f6...@bendel.debian.org
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
Hola, El 10/06/15 a les 10:02, Narcis Garcia ha escrit: Debian.org és un referent, és el referent sobre Debian GNU/Linux i no és tant fàcil despatxar la gent amb un «doncs vés a un lloc on et tractin millor, o calla». Hom no acudeix a Debian fent una inspecció prèvia «a veure quines decepcions o abusos m'esperen aquí». Convé fer les coses bé, però donar exemple encara és millor. La meva opinió és que enlloc de queixar-se després d'apuntar-se a rés o signar qualsevol document, abans s'ha de llegir la documentació. A la documentació de les llistes de Debian hi ha tot un apartat on es diu que es tracta d'una llista pública [1]. És la primera vegada que usen negreta a la pàgina web. Suposo que perquè saben el què significa. No entenc a què ve ara la sorpresa, ni què significa haver de fer les coses bé. Si es llegeix la documentació és prou clar. Si no interessa que l'adreça d'un estigui en un lloc públic quan el lloc avisa que es públic, el millor és evitar el lloc. Això no té rés a veure amb que un marxi de cap lloc. Alguns ja han proposat solucions alternatives. Salut i peles, robert [1] https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/557810a7.3050...@gmail.com
Re: Nvidia vs AMD open source drivers
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 04:45 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: OK, for some cases ~it works~, but not ~all~ cases. So, enough with the warm fuzzies, here's actual benchmark comparison. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=nvidia_nouveau_utopicnum=1 As of October last year, the nvidia supplied driver runs about 6 times faster than Nouveau. I run 3 different 3D environment test server/clients. Imagine that stretched across 4 monitors via 2 video cards and still get acceptable performance, with all of the bells and whistles turned on. Sweet ...and running under Linux. And here is a test run 5 days ago, between Intel, AMD and nVidia using only libre drivers. For a change AMD ran the wheels off of nVidia with Intel slinking in the corner. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=phx-open-11num=1 Last benchmark, comparing video cards with native drivers on Linux. This time nVidia mostly ran the wheels off of AMD. Intel still ain't equal to either by a long shot. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amdnv-phoronix-11num=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amdnv-phoronix-11num=2 So, in summary, I've always used nvidia as it's the same money as AMD and Intel and is generally always faster with the nvidia drivers. So, while many will piffle and claim to not be a gamer, what about video editing? 3D Immersive education? Think you might want to do that at some point in your life?? I'm all about Open Source. But, I'm not about deliberate trashing of expensive hardware for the cause. Nor do I recommend it. Be ALL that you can be. :) Ric As longs as you don't spend your time staring at benchmarks, the stuff works and it is getting better all the time. Especially when people spend their time actually using and supporting it. I have no trouble believing that we can use free drivers for pretty much anything soon. Part of the problem has been that developers are favouring Nvidia, instead targeting more open standards like OpenCL. Sure, there are a few cases, like dual-GPU, multi-screen GL, that's not supported, and might not be, but those are corner cases. If proprietary Nvidia works for you, and if that is the best choice for the OP, I'm glad it's an option, but we need free drivers, and for most users it's a very good experience. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Ive got new device can't get os on had work in perfect on previous device and lost tbt :(
Hi sorry to bother u but lost need help and can't get for the life of me my new device to comply I had an leg of ultimate 2 I some how auto installed trusty alpha core if I said it right forsure alpha tho but snappy app won't leave my thinker alone in my explanation sry again but anyways I signed up got account even had adminstration account used it like twice signed up for mail lists then got error and verification was needed by web master I think but thing is this was not capable on my end as a problem arose I was disconnected from DNS servers and had limited resource capable route I could use as Google my carrier went nuts to render my device and what I accomplished not known exhiled if they could help device and system crippled but I was working but like I said had to use alternative means to navigate. I at the time just acquired root on that device as there was yet a method out to do I cracked it and not only that but also was running Ubuntu 13.04 with what I previously tried to name alpha snappy or trusty anyways this was also yet to be discovered possible yet via xda.,prepaid unleashed, I posted a forum can be googled as to which forum and odd to say why can be googled idk but to help a fellow out android seeker whom had the same device as I on what I discovered thus the frenzy to bury an unknown maybe to claim or maybe I did a no no I was noobie day dev so idk then but that aside can't access account but have emails of all with pass codes to that and I have a stubborn ZTE z932l and trying to get my old set up as I fore mentioned granted I'm no master nor fresh fish but honestly stumped and break in down for help Sir stubborn sake lol sorry again long way of catch up but no way to clearly explain my delema I I could get some help or help in helping me lol that would be sooo appreciated uve no idea if more detailed info needed plz ask with what I have I'll be as much help as I hope not be a burden thank you and hope to hear from you soon either way u decide thanks Cyber
Re: adding network printer
On 15-06-09 8:15 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Have you used this printer with lpd before? Everything I find on Google says it only speaks a proprietary protocol called bjnp. Which should be covered by the cups-backend-bjnp package. http://setdosa.blogspot.se/2009/02/setting-up-canon-pixma-mx850-on-ubuntu.html ...and what more, and this is very important, it did not ask me to select a driver. It automagically found and selected the right. I the link asked to select a particular driver; that wasn't an option presented. Now, now, if I can only scan to the machine. That will be asking too much, I suppose, given Canon's retrogressive moves by not opening up their drivers. That's OK, printing is good enough. And as well, it's important to note that I did not touch CUPS. But I did use it to delete the printer it added, which never did work. Thanks again! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55781100.9080...@gmx.de
Re: problème rsync
L'option --exclude=PATTERN ne fait pas la différence entre un fichier et un dossier. A partir du moment où un fichier ou un dossier contient ton PATTERN dans son filename il sera exclu de la synchronisation. À mer. juin 10 11:21:30 2015 GMT+0200, Fabrice Regnier a écrit : 'lut, l'option --exclude=PATTERN n'a l'air d'être valable que pour des fichiers. pas si sur. T'as essayé --exclude /trashbox ? a+ f. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5578019b$0$3297$426a3...@news.free.fr -- Grégory Reinbold
Re: SOLVED Re: adding network printer SOLVED
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 12:16 +0200, notoneofmy wrote: And the hat's off to Sven Arvidsson for this really, truly, wonderful, no hassle find. Awesome. I just printed the test page in less than 5 minutes. When you consider I spent, between two days, about 8 hours; this is truly wonderful. I'm of two minds; whether I should have asked earlier, save some time. Or, not come quickly with all questions without first trying to solve stuff. I suppose the answer is a sensible balance. But thanks, Sven, thanks a whole lot. At this point, I think I'm almost done making this switch. And I thank you very much, Mr. Arvidsson. And as well to all those who pitched in. Glad to hear you got it working! I don't think there's anything wrong with asking early. Sometimes I start writing a question to the list, and when I finished describing the problem I have figured out the solution, or at least some other thing to try. Another illustration of this: Another effective [debugging] technique is to explain your code to someone else. This will often cause you to explain the bug to yourself. Sometimes it takes no more than a few sentences, followed by an embarrassed Never mind, I see what's wrong. Sorry to bother you. This works remarkably well; you can even use non-programmers as listeners. One university computer center kept a teddy bear near the help desk. Students with mysterious bugs were required to explain them to the bear before they could speak to a human counselor. - B. Kernighan D. Pike (in The Practice of Programming pp. 123) -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: cinnamon fallas interna
Hola :D El 7/6/15, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:36:17 -0600, Gustavo Castro S escribió: hola a todos Estoy utilizando Debian/Sid Te gusta experimentar :) The unstable distribution (sid) The code name for Debian's development distribution is sid, aliased to unstable. (...) Es normal que algunos programas no funcionen bien en sid. Es mas parecido a una mesa de trabajo que a un producto terminado. Ya que expirementas, hazlo divertido y compila las fuentes, pegale un vistazo a : http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2013/10/how-to-build-and-install-the-latest-cinnamon-from-git/ Ademas leete todos los comentarios y leeras cosas curiosas y veras links muy interesantes como este: noobish Apr 24,2014 07:02 Building on debian sid, the following version number tags had to happen in this order: cjs 2.2.0 (...) Some builds had dependencies on newly built packages, so needed to dpkg -i them from ../ The patch from https://github.com/linuxmint/muffin/issues/135 was required for muffin to build. As was this additional patch (can just add it to the patch file from the previous url): diff --git a/src/ui/theme.c b/src/ui/theme.c (...) cinnamon had a dependency problem that was not reported by the dpkg-source –before-build step at the beginning of dpkg-buildpackage. It was missing the following dependencies: dpkg -i ../libmuffin-dev_2.2.1_amd64.deb ../muffin-common_2.2.1_all.deb ../libmuffin0_2.2.1_amd64.deb ../gir1.2-muffin-3.0_2.2.1_amd64.deb (...) Algo me dice que Cinnamon debe estar un poco verde en Debian, revisa los bugs¹ de los que se haya informado y como estás en Sid, si no encuentras ninguno que se asemeje a tu caso, conviene que abras un informa nuevo. ¹https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=cinnamon;dist=unstable Saludos, Pues en jessie va de lujo, instalando desde cualquier medio. Lo prove sobre hierro y sobre maquina virtual. He de decir que sobre qemu/kvm va de pena, pero porque no consigo aceleracion 3d/opengl en esos medios virtuales. En Vbox con los drivers cerrados corre que se las pela. puedes probar con: http://ftp.belnet.be/ftp.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.1.0-i386-cinnamon-desktop.iso o http://ftp.belnet.be/ftp.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.1.0-amd64-cinnamon-desktop.iso Saludos :D -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.06.07.15.30...@gmail.com -- El cielo es para los dragones lo que el agua es para las ninfas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+924hs5x35vuxwxdk5hxensqpqwaur8egyrkytj7rc5gez...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
«Esteu enviant la vostra adreça de correu a una llista que permet qualsevol de subscriure's. Qualsevol adreça de correu-e allà estarà disponible als 'spammers'. Si això és un problema, utilitzeu una adreça diferent o no hi feu enviaments.» Jo porto molt de temps suscrit a la llista de Debian Català i no rebo SPAM a l'adreça a la qual estic suscrit, i no és que tingui un superfiltre antispam. Potser a la gent que us arriba molt d'spam no és per haver estat suscrit a aquesta llista, sino per altres motius. Un tema diferent és que els missatges de la llista siguin públics i si algú busca la meva adreça per internet sàpigue que estic suscrit a Debian Català. En tot cas, a mi ja em sembla bé que els missatges siguin públics. Em puc fer una adreça especial per a llistes públiques. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5577f53e.8060...@probeta.net
Re: Problème mise à jour Wheezy - Suite
Le 09/06/2015 22:01, Frédéric Marécaille a écrit : # ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 74:27:ea:a1:46:de inet adr:192.168.0.16 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Masque:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:9171361 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6907278 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000 RX bytes:10273432775 (9.5 GiB) TX bytes:3585144154 (3.3 GiB) Interruption:42 Adresse de base:0x8000 loLink encap:Boucle locale inet adr:127.0.0.1 Masque:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:2460418 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2460418 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:0 RX bytes:1791461693 (1.6 GiB) TX bytes:1791461693 (1.6 GiB) # ping free.fr ping -c3 free.fr PING free.fr (212.27.48.10) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=25.4 ms 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=2 ttl=51 time=46.2 ms 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=3 ttl=51 time=47.7 ms --- free.fr ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 25.447/39.800/47.727/10.169 ms /etc/network/interfaces # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp Le mardi 09 juin 2015 à 05:57:08, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Monday 08 June 2015 21:31:33 Frédéric Marécaille wrote: Bon, suite aux diverses recommandations, j'ai désactivé le protocole IPV6 sur ma Debian Wheezy (lien donné par Bernard Schoenacker). Toujours le même résultat: la mise à jour de la wheezy se heurte toujours à un problème de connection aux serveurs Debian. Je rappelle que le réseau sur cette Debian semble fonctionnel. Je ping des adresses internet en console. Je dispose par ailleur d'un portable sous Jessie pour lesquels les mises à jour fonctionnent normalement, je n'y comprends rien! Cette Debian wheezy est un PC fixe qui fait office de serveur, les mises à jours ne fonctionnent plus depuis quelques temps. Je n'ai pourtant pas fais de changement majeurs dessus... Dans tes premiers messages, l'erreur que tu remontais indiquait un problème de connexion en IPv6 vers le serveur miroir Debian. Comme la connexion IPv4 était bien fonctionnelle, un ping free.fr ne peut pas nous apprendre grand chose puisque ce ping se fait systématiquement en IPv4 (sinon, il faudrait utiliser la commande ping6). Cependant, tu indiques que le protocole IPv6 a été désactivé depuis (comme le confirme le résultat de la commande ifconfig). L'erreur que tu obtiens lors d'un aptitude update a donc dû changer. Quelle est cette erreur à présent ? Et rencontres-tu mes mêmes soucis avec apt-get ? Est-ce que la commande suivante : wget http://ftp.fr.debian.org/ fonctionne correctement ? Comme ces problèmes ne semblent survenir qu'avec aptitude (et apt-get ?), tu devrais jeter un coup d'œil sur l'ensemble des fichiers de configuration présent sous /etc/apt (en particulier ce qui se trouve dans les sous-répertoires apt.conf.d et preferences.d) pour voir si tu détectes quelque chose de bizarre. Bon courage, Jean-Jacques -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/557801e3.3010...@doti.fr
Re: usbkey: mount option gid=100
On Mon, 2015-06-08 at 13:53 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: I hosed a USB key, probably by pulling it out while files still being copied to it. I'd like to recover the files. Googling ext3 recovery provides quite a few tips, for example: http://serverfault.com/questions/493091/how-to-recover-data-from-a-corrupted-ext3-partition Anyway, whatever you do, make a raw copy with dd and try your recovery on that! -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [OT] Consulta tonta
El Tue, 09 Jun 2015 20:22:09 -0500, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus escribió: El 9 de junio de 2015, 8:46 a. m., Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) En realidad son ambas cosas, por un lado poder centralizar en un solo lugar todos los documentos que días día adquirimos para analizar y obtener datos a partir de los cuales generamos nuestros propios documentos. Esos documentos que generamos son los que hay que hacer colectivamente y para lo que en efecto un sistema de control de versiones podría ser útil. Yo usaría git pero el resto no es gente que se preste a usar esas herramientas, no sin mucha reticencia y mientras hay que resolverlo de algún modo. Ayer estuve viendo un poco sobre etherpad y tal vez eso podría servirnos de momento. Git (a pelo) suele utilizarse para código Así es pero también me ha tocado usarlo en ciertos flujos de trabajo de libros y publicaciones similares donde usamos código ya sea de LaTeX o ConTeXt. pero supongo que vuestra intención es trabajar más con datos de tipo multimedia (documentos ofimáticos, imágenes, etc...). Un CMS/ECM que lleve detrás una gestión de seguimiento de cambios (CVS) sería lo más adecuado. Multimedia no tanto, mas bien son documentos en pdf, ofimaticos (¡puaj!), imágenes y ya. Videos no ni animaciones. Sin embargo no conozco nada de CMS/ECM que mencionas. Y de CVS lo que conozco es git. Sé que existen otras opciones como tortoise y otra que no recuerdo pero la verdad es que me da algo de pereza aprenderlas. Un CMS o ECM son sistemas de colaboración y/o gestión documental basados en web (de cara al usuario) y detrás lo que hay son las herramientas duras con las que nadie quiere tratar pero que todos necesitan (bdd, servidores de correo, CVS/Git, etc...). Pues no sé que opciones sean esas, lo único barebone y diys que conozco es arduino, raspberry pi, pcduino, intel galileo y cosas por el estilo que la verdad ni había contemplado. ¿te refieres a eso? ? Cualquier sistema del tipo o tamaño que sea (desde una cajita hasta un rack completo) que te lo montes por piezas tú mismo es un barebone a lo DIYS :-) Ah bueno, entonces si lo he trabajado, de hecho tengo un proveedor de hardware de segunda mano en muy buen estado con el que he adquirido quipo y armado cosas a precios irrisorios. Solo que en esta empresa no creo que esa opción les resulte atractiva por aquello de las garantías y el sotorpe y todo eso. Bueno, más allá de empresas como HP, IBM, Dell... existen otras opciones que también te ofrecen garantías sobre el harwdare. Supermicro, por ejemplo, tiene equipos muy majetes. Sin embargo no quiero caer en el extremo de comprar una solución armada por algún fabricante que cueste un ojo de la cara y que encima nos terminen vendiendo algo con Windows server o algo por el estilo. Pero por comprar las piezas y montar las cosas no tengo problema. Exacto. Ese es un problema gordo del que además no te das cuenta hasta que ya es demasiado tarde: has pagado una pasta gansa y te sientes como un auténtico esclavo cuando pinchas un módulo de RAM en tu flamante servidor y al no ser el certificado por el fabricante no te arranca el equipo :-( Aunque también te digo que si la empresa necesita el papelito con la garantía firmada y sellada del fabricante, quizá HP sea una buena opción ya que tienen alguna gama media/alta con soporte expreso para Linux (Debian entre ellos). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.06.10.13.24...@gmail.com
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
Per ser més concrets, el problema que tinc jo amb el derexu al ulvidu és el següent: Vaig cometre l'error d'enviar un mail amb el meu nom complert, o sigui que si vaig a un buscador es pot saber la meva adreça. El que reclamaria com a propietari del correu és que s'esborrés aquest i així deixaria d'estar indexat. No hi veig el problema en esborrar un correu meu però no he obtingut resposta per fer-ho. I penso que és el meu dret a esborrar-lo. A 2015-06-10 08:48, Eloi escrigué: El 09/06/15 a les 19:40, Narcis Garcia ha escrit: Reenvio la resposta que m'han donat, i la tradueixo: «Esteu enviant la vostra adreça de correu a una llista que permet qualsevol de subscriure's. Qualsevol adreça de correu-e allà estarà disponible als 'spammers'. Si això és un problema, utilitzeu una adreça diferent o no hi feu enviaments.» I em pregunto: Qui administra aquesta llista en concret? Això no té res a veure amb qui administra aquesta llista de correu perquè és un problema comú i intrínsec. D'acord, vols que la teva adreça de correu s'amagui. Però s'ha d'amagar a tot arreu perquè sigui efectiva: tant a l'arxiu com al correu que s'envia a tots els membres, en particular a mi. Si jo rebo un correu d'una adreça manifestament obscura o invàlida, el més probable és que el meu filtre de correu escombraria salti i no vegi mai el teu missatge. També impedirà que ningú pugui respondre't en privat a la qüestió que hagis plantejat, per molt convenient que sigui. Si vols això, la recomanació del listmaster és efectiva. Si pretens imposar-nos-ho a la resta, hi estic en contra. Que és una murga que l'adreça de correu s'inundi de correu brossa? Això ningú ho nega, tots hi hem passat. Però una llista de correu es basa en reenviar un correu a tothom. Si no vols que ningú sàpiga el teu número de telèfon, no el posis mai en un taulell d'anuncis. Després hi ha l'assumpte del derexu al ulvidu que ha reflotat, i que és inútil perquè tots els subscrits tenim còpia del correu enviat. A mi no em pots fer oblidar. A més, aquesta interpretació del dret és excessiva i fins i tot perniciosa: està enfocada a cercadors perquè deixin de mostrar com a resultats rellevants fets passats, però en cap cas és per censurar-ne la font. Seria com si jo em penedís d'una carta al director que vaig escriure fa temps al Diari de Girona i, basat en aquest dret, demanés que s'esborrés de l'hemeroteca. La real també. Abans d'esperar que tercers ens arreglin la vida hauríem de ser més conscients dels nostres propis actes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/02dd90ce17d4e97492f77a799de22...@citrik.org
Re: unable to modify umask settings in wheezy 7.8
On Mon, 2015-06-08 at 16:51 +0200, Fekete Tamás wrote: Hello everyone, I use wheezy 7.8 on x86_64 architecture and I'm simply unable to modify the umask settings of the system. I have read many webpages for solution (even helps specified for debian) but didn't find the answer what to do. Now, my umask is the default umask: 0022. I want it to be 0077. I took two steps to modify this variable. The first that I have edit /etc/login defs. I rewrite the UMASK part of the file to look like this: UMASK 077 My second step was to edit /etc/pam.d/common-session. I add a last line to the: #and here are moe per-package modules part of the file. The line is looking like this: session optional pam_umask.so umask = 0077 The umask settings are not modified even if I am in gnome, or in normal shell. If you have any advice or good knowledge what is still missing to work, please share! Even with pam, a I think a user can override this, do you have any umask settings in ~/.profile or similar files? Try checking the list in the second answer here, but it sounds like you've made all the right changes. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10220531/how-to-set-system-wide-umask -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: VIDEO EDICIÓN : Kdenlive 15.04.0
El Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:34:18 -0300, Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena escribió: Con fecha Martes, 09 de Junio de 2015, 10:53:53 a.m., Camaleón escribió: El Tue, 09 Jun 2015 00:31:20 -0700, Eduardo Gil escribió: El lun 8-jun-15, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: Asunto: Re: VIDEO EDICIÓN : Kdenlive 15.04.0 Una lástima... todavía hay una brecha MUY grande entre los editores de video de Win y Linux. En WIN el Premiere, Vegas y Edius son los mejorcitos y NO hay con qué darles (casi no tienen límites). ¿Una brecha...? Más bien un abismo. En multimedia linux anda en pañales. Y... En toda MULTIMEDIA... no... Linux tiene para gráficos el GIMP que funciona muy bien aunque es un poquito más limitado que el Photoshop. ¿Sólo un poquito...? :-) Para postproceso de fotografías el Darktable y el RAWtherapee andan EXCELENTEMENTE bien. Nosotros procesamos todas las fotografías PROFESIONALES (de publicidad en s mayoría) con esos dos programas bajo Linux. Para Audio también hay infinidad de programas que andan muy bien... pero para VIDEO PROFESIONAL no hay casi nada de nada... No sólo para vídeo. No hace mucho intenté reemplazar Scribus por Freehand y no me fue posible. Por no hablar de que ni siquiera existe a día de hoy una aplicación completa para procesamiento del formato PDF, que para más INRI es un estándar abierto. Con decirte que tengo que usar GV (del año de la parrala) porque es el único lector que no tiene problemas con todos los archivos que recibo. Ni tampoco hay un editor WYSIWYG decente para html... ains, en fin. EL KDEnlive anda bien para proyectos chicos sin mucho efecto especial en HD (porque en 4K no funciona) una vez que se le toma la mano se pueden hacer cosas muy buenas con él aunque tiene sus limitaciones... MASOMENO uno se arregla con el KDEnlive... el nuevo, según lo que ví e los videos de Yutube está mucho mejor, por eso me abrió la esperanza de que alguien se puso las pilas con el proyecto y lo mejoró mucho :-) Más o menos nos arreglamos como podemos, sí, pero es una pena que estemos tan maltratados. La ventaja de Avidemux es que hay versiones para varios sistemas y eso, al menos, contabiliza como ventaja. Por ahí... quizás en poco tiempo le incorporen más efectos y esas cosillas... Habrá que esperar. Semos pacientes :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.06.10.13.15...@gmail.com
Re: détecter le lancement d'un programme
'lut, dans le cadre d'une application, je souhaite détecter le lancement d'un programme (type: cp, mv) afin de lancer un script bash lorsque la commande est détectée. Y-a-t-il un moyen de faire ceci? package acct ? f. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5578384d$0$3037$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: combine key to output char with xmodmap
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 03:26 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: How can I change this line xmodmap -e 'keycode 66=0xe2' # rebind key: CAPS (66) - â (0xe2) so that doesn't happen on CAPS alone (66), but instead (and only) on M-CAPS (here, M == Alt_L)? xev tells me M/Alt_L has has keycode 64. I'm not sure that's possible with xmodmap. Maybe try xmacro? -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
problemas con tamaño de apt mirrors
He tenido problemas con que se me llena el disco duro, he investigado un poco y he visto que el culpable hera /var/lib/apt/mirrors, ocupaba mas de 35G. Lo he borrado todo. He mirado por si tenia instalado algún espeja de apt o cache local de apt y no encuentro nada con dpkg -l |grep apt o grep mirror. ¿Alguien sabe que he hecho para merecer esto? (a parte de probar muchas cosas y ser un manazas claro). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5577efb5.7010...@juntadeandalucia.es
[HS] iceweasel et googlemap: basse resolution only ?
salut la liste, Je suis sur Strech avec Iceweasel (38.0.1) et Chrome (45.0.2421.0 dev (64-bit)). Et bien je constate que lorsque je vais sur googlemap, avec chrome, la résolution est très bonne, j'ai même l'impression d'une pseudo 3D, notamment en regardant les arbres. En revanche, avec iceweasel, je ne peut obtenir la même résolution et, pour une même coordonnée, la photo renvoyée par google n'est pas la même selon que l'on soit chrome ou sous iceweasel. Sous Windows 8.1 avec ff38, la résolution est ok. Sous Debian/strech avec ff38, que je viens d'installer pour tester, la résolution est ok aussi. Avant de faire un rapport de bug sur Iceweasel, quelqu'un peut-il confirmer ? merki ;) f. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5577f820$0$3055$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: Problème mise à jour Wheezy - Suite
Au fait, lances tu apt-get update and co... en tant que user ou root ? On Tuesday 09 June 2015 23:36:12 Christophe wrote: Hello, Le 09/06/2015 22:01, Frédéric Marécaille a écrit : # ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 74:27:ea:a1:46:de inet adr:192.168.0.16 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Masque:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:9171361 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6907278 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000 RX bytes:10273432775 (9.5 GiB) TX bytes:3585144154 (3.3 GiB) Interruption:42 Adresse de base:0x8000 loLink encap:Boucle locale inet adr:127.0.0.1 Masque:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:2460418 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2460418 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:0 RX bytes:1791461693 (1.6 GiB) TX bytes:1791461693 (1.6 GiB) # ping free.fr ping -c3 free.fr PING free.fr (212.27.48.10) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=25.4 ms 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=2 ttl=51 time=46.2 ms 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=3 ttl=51 time=47.7 ms --- free.fr ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 25.447/39.800/47.727/10.169 ms /etc/network/interfaces [...] 'route -n' et 'iptables -vnL' ?? Parce que ça commence à devenir mystique ton truc la ;) ... Au passage, si j'ai bien compris il s'agit d'un serveur ... pourquoi diable n'y a t'il pas de configuration réseau fixe dessus ? @+ Christophe. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506101124.37155.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: SO_REUSEPORT in wheezy backport kernel
Thanks a lot, I have fixed it. I have try the packages from http://nginx.org/packages/mainline/debian/ wheezy nginx. After rebuild it from source with kernel 3.16 it works. Regards, Basti On 09.06.2015 15:35, Reco wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 02:39:12PM +0200, basti wrote: Hello @all, i have try to use nginx 1.9.1 with SO_REUSEPORT. I have installed kernel 3.16 (3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64) from backports and linux-libc-dev (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1~bpo70+1) but no SO_REUSEPORT is avalibile. So i try to recompile the kernel but in menuconfig i cant find anythink about SO_REUSEPORT. Linux kernel has SO_REUSEPORT support since version 3.9. But it's not configurable, it's always-on. See [1]. But kernel support is not enough, as SO_REUSEPORT should be mentioned in kernel headers provided by linux-libc-dev (I'm assuming that you try to build nginx from the source). Hence, per [2] - install linux-libc-dev from the backports too. [1] http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=c617f398edd4db2b8567a28e899a88f8f574798d [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=779085 Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55780629.2030...@arcor.de
Re: Nvidia vs AMD open source drivers
On 06/10/2015 03:01 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 18:01 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: Which open source driver is better Nouveau or AMD open source driver? It ALL depends on your needs. If you want gaming, or multi-card/monitor support, with all the goodies turned on, you'll want the real drivers. If you are just doing email, web browsing, Hunt The Wumpus, and office stuff, then the open source drivers are just fine, unless you get flickering and tearing. That's actually not true. At least with AMD and (the latest Intel) it's very much possible to play most games. In fact, you're likely to get a much, much better experience overall with the free stuff. OK, for some cases ~it works~, but not ~all~ cases. So, enough with the warm fuzzies, here's actual benchmark comparison. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=nvidia_nouveau_utopicnum=1 As of October last year, the nvidia supplied driver runs about 6 times faster than Nouveau. I run 3 different 3D environment test server/clients. Imagine that stretched across 4 monitors via 2 video cards and still get acceptable performance, with all of the bells and whistles turned on. Sweet ...and running under Linux. And here is a test run 5 days ago, between Intel, AMD and nVidia using only libre drivers. For a change AMD ran the wheels off of nVidia with Intel slinking in the corner. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=phx-open-11num=1 Last benchmark, comparing video cards with native drivers on Linux. This time nVidia mostly ran the wheels off of AMD. Intel still ain't equal to either by a long shot. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amdnv-phoronix-11num=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amdnv-phoronix-11num=2 So, in summary, I've always used nvidia as it's the same money as AMD and Intel and is generally always faster with the nvidia drivers. So, while many will piffle and claim to not be a gamer, what about video editing? 3D Immersive education? Think you might want to do that at some point in your life?? I'm all about Open Source. But, I'm not about deliberate trashing of expensive hardware for the cause. Nor do I recommend it. Be ALL that you can be. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5577f938.9080...@gmail.com
problème rsync
c'est pas typique Debian mais rsync et je ne dois pas être le premier à avoir ce problème. j'utilise rsync pour sauver dans un NAS. Ce c... me fait une sauvegarde des fichiers effacés dans un dossier trashbox. à chque synchro rsync m'efface tous ces fichiers dans trashbox et on recommence pas moyen d'éviter que rsync touche au dossier et laisse trashbox tranquille ? l'option --exclude=PATTERN n'a l'air d'être valable que pour des fichiers. merci pour la solution qui doit être triviale. C Hiebel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5577f5ad$0$3305$426a3...@news.free.fr
Re: problème rsync
salut utilises l'option --exclude-from '/home/exclude.txt' où le fichier exclude.txt contient la liste des dossiers à ne pas prendre en compte (un nom de dossier par ligne du fichier) Jacky Le 10/06/15 10:30, moi-meme a écrit : c'est pas typique Debian mais rsync et je ne dois pas être le premier à avoir ce problème. j'utilise rsync pour sauver dans un NAS. Ce c... me fait une sauvegarde des fichiers effacés dans un dossier trashbox. à chque synchro rsync m'efface tous ces fichiers dans trashbox et on recommence pas moyen d'éviter que rsync touche au dossier et laisse trashbox tranquille ? l'option --exclude=PATTERN n'a l'air d'être valable que pour des fichiers. merci pour la solution qui doit être triviale. C Hiebel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5577fed2.9010...@omega-centauri.net
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
Eloi, no estic parlant del «derecho al olvido». Si estàs una mica al dia en temes de correu electrònic, sabràs que més del 90% del correu electrònic que circula és brossa (spam), que són més de 200.000 milions de cartes carregant línies i servidors de tot arreu. Els servidors amb Debian GNU/Linux es configuren sempre pensant en minimitzar l'efecte d'aquest abús que paguem entre tots i totes (això vol dir que un bon percentatge del què pagues en ample de banda i electricitat és per compensar aquesta càrrega de recursos informàtics). Això també porta feina de manteniment pels administradors de sistemes, i no una feina productiva precísament. Molt sovint es diu que el programari lliure té l'avantatge que l'usuari pensa menys en virus i problemes tècnics i més en allò que vol fer amb l'ordinador, i això hauria de ser coherent amb les bones pràctiques de portals per GNU/Linux. Mailman és un sistema de llistes de correu-e que sembla cavernícola, però fins i tot aquest programari preveu ofuscar *una mica* les adreces de la gent. El què es fa a les llistes de Debian.org és un atràs, i no tant en el sentit cronològic sinó que està fora del món real i el món actual. Fins i tot els del Bugzilla, després de certa discussió, han hagut de baixar del burro. I fins i tot aquesta llista es protegeix del spam demanant confirmació de la subscripció. Debian.org és un referent, és el referent sobre Debian GNU/Linux i no és tant fàcil despatxar la gent amb un «doncs vés a un lloc on et tractin millor, o calla». Hom no acudeix a Debian fent una inspecció prèvia «a veure quines decepcions o abusos m'esperen aquí». Convé fer les coses bé, però donar exemple encara és millor. El 10/06/15 a les 08:48, Eloi ha escrit: El 09/06/15 a les 19:40, Narcis Garcia ha escrit: Reenvio la resposta que m'han donat, i la tradueixo: «Esteu enviant la vostra adreça de correu a una llista que permet qualsevol de subscriure's. Qualsevol adreça de correu-e allà estarà disponible als 'spammers'. Si això és un problema, utilitzeu una adreça diferent o no hi feu enviaments.» I em pregunto: Qui administra aquesta llista en concret? Això no té res a veure amb qui administra aquesta llista de correu perquè és un problema comú i intrínsec. D'acord, vols que la teva adreça de correu s'amagui. Però s'ha d'amagar a tot arreu perquè sigui efectiva: tant a l'arxiu com al correu que s'envia a tots els membres, en particular a mi. Si jo rebo un correu d'una adreça manifestament obscura o invàlida, el més probable és que el meu filtre de correu escombraria salti i no vegi mai el teu missatge. També impedirà que ningú pugui respondre't en privat a la qüestió que hagis plantejat, per molt convenient que sigui. Si vols això, la recomanació del listmaster és efectiva. Si pretens imposar-nos-ho a la resta, hi estic en contra. Que és una murga que l'adreça de correu s'inundi de correu brossa? Això ningú ho nega, tots hi hem passat. Però una llista de correu es basa en reenviar un correu a tothom. Si no vols que ningú sàpiga el teu número de telèfon, no el posis mai en un taulell d'anuncis. Després hi ha l'assumpte del derexu al ulvidu que ha reflotat, i que és inútil perquè tots els subscrits tenim còpia del correu enviat. A mi no em pots fer oblidar. A més, aquesta interpretació del dret és excessiva i fins i tot perniciosa: està enfocada a cercadors perquè deixin de mostrar com a resultats rellevants fets passats, però en cap cas és per censurar-ne la font. Seria com si jo em penedís d'una carta al director que vaig escriure fa temps al Diari de Girona i, basat en aquest dret, demanés que s'esborrés de l'hemeroteca. La real també. Abans d'esperar que tercers ens arreglin la vida hauríem de ser més conscients dels nostres propis actes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610080322.c2117...@bendel.debian.org
Re: Nvidia vs AMD open source drivers
On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 23:28 +0200, Dan wrote: Hi, I would live to buy a workstation and install Jessie. I would like to use the open source drivers for the graphic card. What would you recommend? My choices are Nvidia or AMD. I checked the Nvidia/Debian wiki and the Nouveau drivers seems to work very well: As of jessie, the need for the proprietary drivers is pretty much over - nouveau now works quite well https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Which open source driver is better Nouveau or AMD open source driver? It depends quite a bit on the specific hardware. But I would not choose Nvidia on principle. They employ the least people to work on free drivers, they release the least documentation, and the latest cards might not work at all with free drivers [1]. For getting the most out of the card, performance, power management, opencl etc. I would look at AMD or Intel. If you're building a new system, you might go with Intel at first, and later buy a discrete graphics card (AMD) if you need higher performance. I've had really good feedback from both AMD and Intel when filing bugs and having problems. I'm sure the nouveau are doing their best, but there's just so much you can do without working with the manufacturer. 1. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NVIDIA-Unfriendly-OSS-Hardware -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: problème rsync
sinon, j'ai un truc comme ça qui fonctionne bien: avec l'option --exclude-from #!/bin/bash SRC='/ma_source/' DEST='/ma_dest' EXCLUSION='fichier_exclusion' LOG='fichier.log' BACKUPDIR='/mon_dir_de_backup' rm $BACKUPDIR -rf mkdir $BACKUPDIR /usr/bin/rsync --delete --log-file=$LOG --exclude-from=$EXCLUSION --backup --backup-dir=$BACKUPDIR -av $SRC $DEST Et dans fichier_exclusion, j'ai ce type d'entrées: /.htaccess /images/images_carousel/ /images/vignettes/ /twitts/ a+ f. Le 10/06/2015 11:00, moi-meme a écrit : c'est pas typique Debian mais rsync et je ne dois pas être le premier à avoir ce problème. j'utilise rsync pour sauver dans un NAS. Ce c... me fait une sauvegarde des fichiers effacés dans un dossier trashbox. à chque synchro rsync m'efface tous ces fichiers dans trashbox et on recommence pas moyen d'éviter que rsync touche au dossier et laisse trashbox tranquille ? l'option --exclude=PATTERN n'a l'air d'être valable que pour des fichiers. merci pour la solution qui doit être triviale. C Hiebel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55780363$0$3323$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: problème rsync
'lut, l'option --exclude=PATTERN n'a l'air d'être valable que pour des fichiers. pas si sur. T'as essayé --exclude /trashbox ? a+ f. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5578019b$0$3297$426a3...@news.free.fr
Systemd boot probleem
Hallo, Gisteren had ik voor het eerst te maken met een serieus systemd boot probleem. Het gaat om een virtuele machine (Qemu/KVM) waarin alles op LVM staat. De host is Debian 7, de client Debian 8. Ik had het (virtuele) geheugen van de machine vergroot en daarna ging het booten niet goed. Ik kreeg dit soort meldingen, en dat bleef zich maar herhalen: -- (1 of 4) A start job is running for udev Wait for Co...on (27s / 3min) (2 of 4) A start job is running for udev Kernel Devi...13s / 1min 30s) (3 of 4) A start job is running for dev-mapper-vg0\x...45s / 1min 30s) (4 of 4) A start job is running for dev-ttyS0.device (53s / 1min 30s) [ TIME ] Timed out waiting for device dev-mapper-vg0\x2dswap.device. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for /dev/mapper/vg0-swap. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Swap. [ TIME ] Timed out waiting for device dev-ttyS0.device. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Serial Getty on ttyS0. [FAILED] Failed to start udev Kernel Device Manager. See 'systemctl status systemd-udevd.service' for details. Stopping udev Kernel Device Manager... [ OK ] Stopped udev Kernel Device Manager. Starting udev Kernel Device Manager... - Voor nood ben ik toen maar gestart met de recovery-mode van Grub. Nadat ik was ingelogd als root zag ik weinig verkeerds, dus heb ik maar weer exit getikt. Tot mijn verbazing startte het systeem toen op zonder problemen. Later heb ik dit nog een keer gedaan, toen bleek het netwerk niet te functioneren. Maar na een /etc/init.d/networking restart wel weer (ik kan er via een seriele console inkomen). De boel draait weer voor nood. Als ik in de logs kijk zie ik niets in de tijd dat de problemen er waren. Misschien kon hij het root filesystem niet mounten waardoor er ook niets weg te schrijven was. En tijdens het booten heb ik geen prompt dus kan ik ook de logs niet bekijken lijkt me. Ik zie geen problemen op soortgelijke andere virtuele machines die op dezelfde manier gemaakt zijn. Een reboot ging ook een keer wel goed, maar daarna weer niet. Heeft hier iemand tips? Met vriendelijke groet, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/557800e9.4040...@vandervlis.nl
Re: cinnamon fallas interna
El Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:31:22 +0200, Ala de Dragón escribió: Hola :D El 7/6/15, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:36:17 -0600, Gustavo Castro S escribió: hola a todos Estoy utilizando Debian/Sid Te gusta experimentar :) The unstable distribution (sid) The code name for Debian's development distribution is sid, aliased to unstable. (...) Es normal que algunos programas no funcionen bien en sid. Es mas parecido a una mesa de trabajo que a un producto terminado. Ya que expirementas, hazlo divertido y compila las fuentes, pegale un vistazo a : http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2013/10/how-to-build-and-install-the- latest-cinnamon-from-git/ (...) Pero si ya hay paquetes para Debian ¿no? :-? Algo me dice que Cinnamon debe estar un poco verde en Debian, revisa los bugs¹ de los que se haya informado y como estás en Sid, si no encuentras ninguno que se asemeje a tu caso, conviene que abras un informa nuevo. ¹https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi? pkg=cinnamon;dist=unstable Pues en jessie va de lujo, instalando desde cualquier medio. (...) Claro, porque ahí está todo ya montadito y probado aunque la versión que lleva (2.2) no es muy moderna ;-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.06.10.13.44...@gmail.com
Re: [HS] iceweasel et googlemap: basse resolution only ?
bonjour, une idée qui vaut ce qu'elle vaut, en utilisant user agent switcher dans iceweasel https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/ et de faire la même entré qu'un firefox normal, est ce que ça fonctionne mieu ? jerem Le 10/06/2015 15:18, Haricophile a écrit : Le Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:41:01 +0200, Fabrice Regnier regnier@free.fr a écrit : Avant de faire un rapport de bug sur Iceweasel, quelqu'un peut-il confirmer ? merki ;) Sur Iceweasel ou chez google le rapport de bug ? parce que là j'ai surtout l'impression que c'est google qui fait joujou avec sa propre technologie ou alors qui trouve quelques moyens assez habituels chez Microsoft (ie6...) pour fourguer son usine à espionnage chromée. Après ça peut aussi être le temps d'assimiler les versions expérimentales de Google. En tout cas je m'avance peut-être, mais j'ai un gros doute sur la responsabilité de Iceweasel. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55783e95.9010...@prego-network.net
Trying to install Adobe AIR
Greetings all, Has anyone successfully installed AdobeAIR? if so could I have some help please? New to Debian. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1433944781.6487.2.ca...@gmail.com
Re: problemas con tamaño de apt mirrors
El Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:05:09 +0200, Antonio Trujillo Carmona escribió:
Rediez :-(
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He tenido problemas con que se me llena el disco duro, he
investigado un poco y he visto que el culpable hera
/var/lib/apt/mirrors, ocupaba mas de 35G.br
Lo he borrado todo.br
He mirado por si tenia instalado algún espeja de apt o cache local
de apt y no encuentro nada con dpkg -l |grep apt o grep mirror.br
¿Alguien sabe que he hecho para merecer esto? (a parte de probar
muchas cosas y ser un manazas claro).br
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sm01@stt008:~$ du -h /var/lib/apt/mirrors/
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Algo habrás hecho... o eso o tu sistema ha adquirido consciencia de sí
mismo y ha querido darte un susto :-)
Quizá has tenido algún paquete instalado, ha almacenado los datos y lo
has eliminado más tarde pero sin borrar esos archivos :-?
Saludos,
--
Camaleón
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Re: adding network printer
On Wed 10 Jun 2015 at 12:27:12 +0200, notoneofmy wrote: On 15-06-09 8:15 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Have you used this printer with lpd before? Everything I find on Google says it only speaks a proprietary protocol called bjnp. Which should be covered by the cups-backend-bjnp package. http://setdosa.blogspot.se/2009/02/setting-up-canon-pixma-mx850-on-ubuntu.html ...and what more, and this is very important, it did not ask me to select a driver. It automagically found and selected the right. I the link asked to select a particular driver; that wasn't an option presented. Just to be clear on how you solved your problem: was it by installing the Debian cups-backend-bjnp package or by following the advice at the link given? As a matter of interest and of possible help to future users, would you please say which PPD you are using and also post the outputs of lpstat -v print_queue_name and nmap (printer_IPaddress -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/10062015142302.08e928bea...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
MiniDebconf no FISL16
Se você estava precisando de (mais) um bom motivo para ir ao FISL, essa é pra você. Este ano haverá uma MiniDebconf como parte da programação. :) Ainda estamos fechando a programação, mas já temos bastante conteúdo. No dia 10 de Julho (sexta) vamos ter uma sala com palestras só sobre o Debian o dia todo. Nos outros dias do FISL vamos ter outras atividades como na área das comunidades. Os detalhes (em construção) podem ser vistos aqui: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/br/2015/MiniDebconfFISL Se você pretende participar, por favor coloque o seu nome na tabela Participantes no final da página wiki acima. Se não quiser criar uma conta no wiki só pra isso, pode me dar um ping no IRC (OFTC, #debian-br ou #debian-devel-br) que eu adiciono. Note que o objetivo dessa tabela é poder saber quem vai participar e quais são os interesses dos participantes. Independente disso, você ainda *precisa de inscrever no FISL*. Se você quiser ajudar com a organização, por favor se inscreva na lista debian-br-eventos: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-br-eventos -- Antonio Terceiro terce...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Change for systemd the UUID of the home partition, how to?
On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 13:37 -0400, Ken Heard wrote: On 2015-06-09 11:18, Ken Heard wrote: For reasons which I won't go into now my encrypted home partition was obliterated. (Yes, all the data thereon had been backed up.) I created a new one, but of course it does not have the same UUID as the previous one. Jessie's systemd however on boot continues to look for the old UUID for that partition. Consequently the encrypted home partition can no longer be opened during the boot. I would be grateful if anyone can tell me where the UUIDs of the encrypted partitions to be opened on boot, such as tmp and home, are stored so that systemd can find them during the boot? After some research I found file /etc/crypttab which contains a list of the UUIDs for encrypted partitions, /home in my case. I thought it would be a simple matter of changing the relevant UUID to the current one. It is apparently not. I have never had to do any systemd-specific configuration for my encrypted partitions. (Then again, I haven't changed UUID either) /etc/crypttab is usually included in the boot (when you build an initramfs) at least when / is encrypted, I'm not sure about /home. What does your /etc/fstab look like? -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [HS] iceweasel et googlemap: basse resolution only ?
Le Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:41:01 +0200, Fabrice Regnier regnier@free.fr a écrit : Avant de faire un rapport de bug sur Iceweasel, quelqu'un peut-il confirmer ? merki ;) Sur Iceweasel ou chez google le rapport de bug ? parce que là j'ai surtout l'impression que c'est google qui fait joujou avec sa propre technologie ou alors qui trouve quelques moyens assez habituels chez Microsoft (ie6...) pour fourguer son usine à espionnage chromée. Après ça peut aussi être le temps d'assimiler les versions expérimentales de Google. En tout cas je m'avance peut-être, mais j'ai un gros doute sur la responsabilité de Iceweasel. -- haricoph...@aranha.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610151819.48fbf3f3@azuki.aranha
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
2015-06-10, 15:07 (+0200); ja...@citrik.org escriu: Per ser més concrets, el problema que tinc jo amb el derexu al ulvidu és el següent: Vaig cometre l'error d'enviar un mail amb el meu nom complert, o sigui que si vaig a un buscador es pot saber la meva adreça. El que reclamaria com a propietari del correu és que s'esborrés aquest i així deixaria d'estar indexat. No hi veig el problema en esborrar un correu meu però no he obtingut resposta per fer-ho. I penso que és el meu dret a esborrar-lo. No crec que tinguis el dret d'obligar a un destinatari a esborrar un missatge que li has enviat. A part d'això, no depèn d'ells perquè les llistes de Debian s'arxiven a un munt de llocs. Per exemple: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/linux.debian.user.catalan http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user.catalan https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user-catalan@lists.debian.org/ I el problema és evident: d'entrada com sabem que qui demana esborrar un missatge és realment l'autor del missatge? No crec que els administradors d'aquests arxius es puguin o s'hagin de dedicar a aquestes coses, i menys quan ja hi ha sistemes per evitar que s'arxivin els missatges [1]. Cada u és responsable de què fa públic i què no. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-No-Archive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610142515.GA29920@doriath.local
Re: Anybody know what the heck I use to read a .wps file?
On 06/10/2015 09:43 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Anybody know what the heck I use to read a .wps file? I think .wps was a Microsoft Works file, from 15, 20 years ago, but I also think maybe a few other apps may have used that extension also. If it's just one file, I'd probably google for an online .wps converter. I also tend to think LibreWriter will open it. -- Kent West *))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com Praise Yah! \o/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55784e67.20...@acu.edu
Anybody know what the heck I use to read a .wps file?
Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506101043.46219.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Trying to install Adobe AIR
Hello. Has anyone successfully installed AdobeAIR? if so could I have some help please? New to Debian. Support of AIR under Linux has been stopped in 2011 by Adobe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_AIR#Availability Regards. -- David Guyot Administrateur système, réseau et télécom / Sysadmin Europe Camions Interactive / Stockway Moulin Collot F-88500 Ambacourt 03 29 30 47 85 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Anybody know what the heck I use to read a .wps file?
On Wednesday 10 June 2015 10:49:11 Kent West wrote: On 06/10/2015 09:43 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Anybody know what the heck I use to read a .wps file? I think .wps was a Microsoft Works file, from 15, 20 years ago, but I also think maybe a few other apps may have used that extension also. If it's just one file, I'd probably google for an online .wps converter. I also tend to think LibreWriter will open it. I'll try that, thanks Kent. -- Kent West *))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com Praise Yah! \o/ Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506101050.53189.ghesk...@wdtv.com
umask spécifique à un répertoire
Salut, Je cherche à définir un umask spécifique à un répertoire. Je sais le faire à la main (« umask 177 » pour que les fichiers créés dans le répertoire où j'ai exécuté cette commande aient 600 comme permissions). Or si je me déconnecte, cette valeur est perdue. Je peux bien sûr mettre cela dans mon ~/.bashrc ou tout autre fichier du même type, mais cela agira sur la création de tout fichier dans mon $HOME. Est-il donc possible de spécifier un umask par répertoire ? Merci S -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610145700.ga23...@petruzzello.ch
Re: su chmod -755 /usr
Many thanks for the replies. (I did say I'm sketchy here) I was attempting to alter permissions on a folder. I then read that all folders leding up to it must also have permission altered. So I then mistakenly actually ran 'sudo chmod -755 /usr/lib/TheFolderIMeantToAlter' and all folders leading up to it /usr the [-] being the culprit (of course!!). Got to watch these late night system alterations. At some point sudo said NO. And I,being a schmuck, jumped to su to force the issue. All seems well, valuable lesson(s) learnt. Seriously thought it was terminal, appreciate the wisdom people. Many thanks, Julian On 10 June 2015 at 05:26, Mikael Flood the...@gmail.com wrote: Helllo Julian, Should just be to revert the change with 'chmod 755 /usr'. On 10 June 2015 at 05:40, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Yes I'm an idiot... Not very experienced user here - 1st post: I mistakenly ran 'chmod -755 /usr'. How can I fix my permissions? Haven't rebooted yet, too scared. Currently getting around as root. Would prefer to avoid reinstall if possible. Cheers, Julian -- //Yours sincerely Mikael Flood
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
El 09/06/15 a les 19:40, Narcis Garcia ha escrit: Reenvio la resposta que m'han donat, i la tradueixo: «Esteu enviant la vostra adreça de correu a una llista que permet qualsevol de subscriure's. Qualsevol adreça de correu-e allà estarà disponible als 'spammers'. Si això és un problema, utilitzeu una adreça diferent o no hi feu enviaments.» I em pregunto: Qui administra aquesta llista en concret? Això no té res a veure amb qui administra aquesta llista de correu perquè és un problema comú i intrínsec. D'acord, vols que la teva adreça de correu s'amagui. Però s'ha d'amagar a tot arreu perquè sigui efectiva: tant a l'arxiu com al correu que s'envia a tots els membres, en particular a mi. Si jo rebo un correu d'una adreça manifestament obscura o invàlida, el més probable és que el meu filtre de correu escombraria salti i no vegi mai el teu missatge. També impedirà que ningú pugui respondre't en privat a la qüestió que hagis plantejat, per molt convenient que sigui. Si vols això, la recomanació del listmaster és efectiva. Si pretens imposar-nos-ho a la resta, hi estic en contra. Que és una murga que l'adreça de correu s'inundi de correu brossa? Això ningú ho nega, tots hi hem passat. Però una llista de correu es basa en reenviar un correu a tothom. Si no vols que ningú sàpiga el teu número de telèfon, no el posis mai en un taulell d'anuncis. Després hi ha l'assumpte del derexu al ulvidu que ha reflotat, i que és inútil perquè tots els subscrits tenim còpia del correu enviat. A mi no em pots fer oblidar. A més, aquesta interpretació del dret és excessiva i fins i tot perniciosa: està enfocada a cercadors perquè deixin de mostrar com a resultats rellevants fets passats, però en cap cas és per censurar-ne la font. Seria com si jo em penedís d'una carta al director que vaig escriure fa temps al Diari de Girona i, basat en aquest dret, demanés que s'esborrés de l'hemeroteca. La real també. Abans d'esperar que tercers ens arreglin la vida hauríem de ser més conscients dels nostres propis actes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5577dda3.6060...@gmail.com
Re: Nvidia vs AMD open source drivers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 11:28:59PM +0200, Dan wrote: Hi, I would live to buy a workstation and install Jessie. I would like to use the open source drivers for the graphic card. What would you recommend? My choices are Nvidia or AMD. I was in the same position a short while ago. The problem is... it's not just about Nvidia or AMD -- the exact chipset and your use case matter. I ended up with (on-chip) Intel (it's a desktop), on the theory that there are some X developers working on Intel's money and writing free X drivers. Of course, if you are aiming at high-end gaming or parallel computation on your graphics card, that would not be an option, since the external graphic cards have way more oomph than those on-chip thingies. For day-to-day stuff (browser, video editing, Gimp) it seems perfectly adequate. - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlV33ggACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZg+QCfRHk/hUaAetP/m7D8CbWw7/+e M14An0D/di40bGuU12k43fThpPT6QqOG =V28u -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610064944.ga28...@tuxteam.de
Re: Nvidia vs AMD open source drivers
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:38:46 +0900 Man_Without_Clue love.cha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, 10 June, 2015 07:01 AM, Ric Moore wrote: On 06/09/2015 05:28 PM, Dan wrote: Hi, I would live to buy a workstation and install Jessie. I would like to use the open source drivers for the graphic card. What would you recommend? My choices are Nvidia or AMD. I checked the Nvidia/Debian wiki and the Nouveau drivers seems to work very well: As of jessie, the need for the proprietary drivers is pretty much over - nouveau now works quite well https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Which open source driver is better Nouveau or AMD open source driver? It ALL depends on your needs. If you want gaming, or multi-card/monitor support, with all the goodies turned on, you'll want the real drivers. If you are just doing email, web browsing, Hunt The Wumpus, and office stuff, then the open source drivers are just fine, unless you get flickering and tearing. What about Intel HD? What's wrong with that? Intel is fine, in many ways, except the fact that they don't make and sell discrete graphics cards. So, unless you buy a system with suitable Intel graphics integrated, they're not an option. If you need more than what your onboard graphics can give you (like more outputs) you are out of luck. If the integrated graphics are enough for you, Intel is generally very good. For gaming, most people recommend nVidia with the proprietary drivers. For other usage it's just a matter of preference. Personally, I prefer AMD with the open-source driver (radeon), but I don't do gaming. I do, however, use multiple screens, and unlike Ric said that combination works wonderfully. The proprietary drivers caused stability issues for me, although that was some time ago. The open-source drivers can also do hardware-accelerated video playback on most recent cards, so unless you need any specific features of the proprietary drivers (like hardware 3D, or support for a brand new card) the open-source drivers are fine. There is some hardware-accelerated 3D in the open-source drivers that is adequate for most usage, but in most cases you will get far better performance in gaming with the proprietary ones. For desktop use, you don't need them IMO. Some users have had problems with installation and upgrades of the proprietary drivers, so the open-source ones are usually the recommended way to go unless needs dictate otherwise. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpZvET521rgV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Nvidia vs AMD open source drivers
On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 18:01 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: Which open source driver is better Nouveau or AMD open source driver? It ALL depends on your needs. If you want gaming, or multi-card/monitor support, with all the goodies turned on, you'll want the real drivers. If you are just doing email, web browsing, Hunt The Wumpus, and office stuff, then the open source drivers are just fine, unless you get flickering and tearing. That's actually not true. At least with AMD and (the latest Intel) it's very much possible to play most games. In fact, you're likely to get a much, much better experience overall with the free stuff. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Cinnamon crashing on Stretch
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 08:15 -0700, Paul Anzel wrote: Hello everyone, I'm currently running Debian Stretch* and ran the usual apt-get update/upgrade yesterday. Subsequently, when I tried rebooting my machine Cinnamon keeps on crashing, giving me a prompt to go into Fallback mode (and if I tell it to restart Cinnamon, it just keeps on giving me the prompt again and again). I tried uninstalling Cinnamon and then reinstalling it, and the problem persists. It might be this bug? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=788203 If so, installing an older version of muffin might work around it for the time being. Or possible switching to another WM in Cinnamon, but I'm not sure how that works. Is anyone else having this problem? Do I just need to wait a few weeks for the next upgrade (and try some other GUI), or is there something else I can do? Thanks for the advice, Paul *I realize upgrading to Testing this early may have been a foolish choice. Yes, these sort of things happens in testing, it's a if it breaks, you get to keep both the pieces kind of a deal. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: installer une imprimante pdf
LO, On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 04:38:30PM +, Alex PADOLY wrote: [...] Je n'ai pas d'imprimante, je souhaite à partir de n'importe quelle application générer un fichier pdf que Quel paquet Debian faudrait-il installé? cups-pdf ? Marche bien... A+ -- JFS. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610165044.gc30...@jones.jfs.dt
Cinnamon crashing on Stretch
Hello everyone, I'm currently running Debian Stretch* and ran the usual apt-get update/upgrade yesterday. Subsequently, when I tried rebooting my machine Cinnamon keeps on crashing, giving me a prompt to go into Fallback mode (and if I tell it to restart Cinnamon, it just keeps on giving me the prompt again and again). I tried uninstalling Cinnamon and then reinstalling it, and the problem persists. Is anyone else having this problem? Do I just need to wait a few weeks for the next upgrade (and try some other GUI), or is there something else I can do? Thanks for the advice, Paul *I realize upgrading to Testing this early may have been a foolish choice. -- Paul Anzel Graduate Student in Applied Physics California Institute of Technology -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55785477.3060...@caltech.edu
Re: umask spécifique à un répertoire
On 10/06/2015 17:33, NicoLagaffe wrote: Et pourquoi pas un chmod 600 mondossier chmod g+s mondossier Ainsi tout docs ou dossier crees dedans aura le meme umask. Non ? Il me semble que non. Changer le bit sgid d'un répertoire va agir sur le *groupe* *propriétaire* des fichiers créés dans le dit répertoire mais ça n'aura aucune influence sur la valeur des bits correspondant aux droits Unix de ce fichier. Si le PO veut agir sur le umask, c'est qu'il vaut agit sur la valeur par défaut des bits correspondant aux droits Unix d'un fichier lors de sa création, pas sur le propriétaire et le groupe propriétaire du fichier. -- François Lafont -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ml9n3f$h49$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: umask spécifique à un répertoire
Le mercredi 10 juin 2015, Thierry Despeyroux a écrit : Le man dit A child process created via fork(2) inherits its parent's umask. The umask is left unchanged by execve(2). Cela voudrait dire qu'il faut faire un fork, puis dans le process créé faire le umask qui sera valable pour tous les sous process de ce fork, mais pas ailleurs, non ? Hum… et pratiquement, ça veut dire quoi ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610154312.gb29...@petruzzello.ch
Re: umask spécifique à un répertoire
Le 10-06-2015, à 17:10:58 +0200, Francois Lafont a écrit : Salut, On 10/06/2015 16:57, steve wrote: Je cherche à définir un umask spécifique à un répertoire. Je sais le faire à la main (« umask 177 » pour que les fichiers créés dans le répertoire où j'ai exécuté cette commande aient 600 comme permissions). Es-tu sûr que la commande usmask agisse uniquement au niveau du répertoire sur lequel tu te trouves ? Non, je me suis mal exprimé, je pensais déjà à la suite (le umask dans le .bashrc) quand j'ai rédigé cette partie du message. Et effectivement il semble global au compte. Sorry. Est-il donc possible de spécifier un umask par répertoire ? À ma connaissance ce n'est pas possible mais ça ne prouve rien. ;) C'est vrai ;) Une autre modeste âme aurait-elle une idée sur la question ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610152923.ga27...@petruzzello.ch
Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 08/06/2015, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): The telinit s command, whilst taking the computer to single user mode, unfortunately did not turn off the GUI, so I still got the same error. It would appear that there's some sort of disagreement over terminology here. X will not be running while in single user mode (by which we mean a single login as root. It'll still be installed and configured to run when you're not in single user mode. But let's just make things simple. Stop worrying about getting into single user mode from the machine's normal running configuration. Just reboot. Select single user mode from the grub menu. That's the answer to your Subject line. Now run your script, preferably after starting script so you capture the output. If you have the same problem, viz You appear to be running xserver. Exit xserver and try again, then post that problem under an appropriate subject line and you might start to make progress in the actual problem area. Cheers, David. Hello. The only available boot option, apart from the normal boot mode, in the GRUB menu, for Debian 6, was the recovery mode, so I booted into that, changed to the appropriate directory, and ran the sh command to try to install the driver. The error message referred to the log file; :~# cat /var/log/nvidia-installer.log nvidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' creation time: Wed Jun 10 22:53:51 2015 installer version: 346.72 PATH: /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin nvidia-installer command line: ./nvidia-installer Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface - Detected 8 CPUs online; setting concurrency level to 8. - License accepted. - Installing NVIDIA driver version 346.72. ERROR: Unable to find the development tool `cc` in your path; please make sure that you have the package 'gcc' installed. If gcc is installed on your system, then please check that `cc` is in your PATH. ERROR: Installation has failed. Please see the file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details. You may find suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com. I searched the README on the nvidia web site, and could not find any reference to this problem, so I do not know how to deal with that problem. I note that the web page at https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers which refers only to Debian versions 7 and 8, and, not to 6, includes reference to running the command $ lspci -nn | grep VGA which returned :~# lspci -nn | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:0416] (rev 06) and the nvidia-detect package appears to be not available for Debian 6. From lshw, is *-pci description: Host bridge product: Intel Corporation vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 100 bus info: pci@:00:00.0 version: 06 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz *-pci:0 description: PCI bridge product: Intel Corporation vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1 bus info: pci@:00:01.0 version: 06 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci pm msi pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: irq:24 ioport:4000(size=4096) memory:d200-d2ff ioport:a000(size=536870912) *-display UNCLAIMED description: 3D controller product: nVidia Corporation vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:01:00.0 version: a1 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:d200-d2ff memory:a000-afff(prefetchable) memory:b000-b1ff(prefetchable) ioport:4000(size=128) memory:b200-b207(prefetchable) *-display UNCLAIMED description: VGA compatible controller product: Intel Corporation vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: pci@:00:02.0 version: 06 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:d300-d33f memory:c000-cfff(prefetchable) ioport:5000(size=64) I think I may have posted the lspci output, and the lshw output, from Debian 7, on this computer, previously, when I had tried to get the external monitor working with Debian 7, on this computer. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll
Re: [HS] iceweasel et googlemap: basse resolution only ?
'lut, une idée qui vaut ce qu'elle vaut, en utilisant user agent switcher dans iceweasel bingo! Si je modifie le user-agent en linux/chrome, m$/chrome ou m$/ff alors tout est ok. Sur Iceweasel ou chez google le rapport de bug ? du coup, sur google co! Je hais google et pourtant j'ai affreusement besoin de googlemap :( Est-ce que vous croyez qu'en va s'en sortir un jour ;) ? merci à Haricophile et à Jérémy, f. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55786050$0$3051$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: initramfs
2015-06-03 12:52 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:35:05 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: Listeros: Tengo un problema. Una maquina del trabajo dejo de funcionar, es un equipo viejito, me parece que no soporta el bootearse con usb, los cdrom que tiene no funcionan y encima de todo eso me aparece la leyenda de inittramfs ¿Sin más datos? Si llega a cargar GRUB, podrías intentar iniciar el sistema manualmente por si te diera más información. Segun estuve leyendo, puedo reparar la particion dañada o con incosistencias mediante un cd-live de alguna distro (prefiero usar knopixx) y ejecutar fsck y-la-particion-que-deseo-reparar Mi pregunta ¿Esto es correcto? ¿Existe alguna otra manera de sacar los datos contenidos ahi y reinstalar nuevamente?. Sí, claro. Puedes sacar el disco duro y conectarlo mediante una caja USB en otro equipo. Desde ahí podrás pasarle el test que quieras y si te lo permite, montar la unidad para sacar los datos. Gracias por la respuesta, saque ya los datos como lo dijiste Camaleon. Ya QUEDO RESUELTO ESTE HILO. Lo que me preocupo es que se puede acceder a los datos solo desmontando fisicamente el disco y montandolo mediante linea de comandos y acceder a toda la informacion sin que me pidiera una contraseña. ¿Habria manera de proegerlos con alguna contraseña si se intenta montar el disco mediante usb? El problema ha sido resuelto como lo dijo Camaleon, la pregunta anterior es unicamente para saber y posteriormente informarme. Gracias Tengo a la mano un cdrom pero que es conectado por SATA y el equipo que deseo reparar es un equipo que no usa SATA sino cable IDE. ¿Alguna idea para reparar la particion o en su defecto acceder a los archiovs contenidos y rescatarlos (no hicieron backup). También puedes intentarlo con una LiveCD/USB, sí, pero necesitas un lector de CD/DVD o llave/disco USB (desde donde leer el medio vivo a cargar) y una disquetera (sí, floppy) si la BIOS no te permite iniciar desde USB o CD. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.06.03.17.52...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cam50unwht+adugrbxfhm3hew2r++b0f-2wgnquinu-bm6k7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
2015-06-09 6:44 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com: El lun, 08-06-2015 a las 15:26 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com wrote: El mié, 03-06-2015 a las 20:31 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: -- Forwarded message -- From: Debia Linux debianer...@gmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Cc: Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 20:14:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Montar galaxy s4 en debian linux 2015-06-02 9:06 GMT-05:00 Adolfo Maltez fmal...@salud.gob.sv: Saludos. En lo personal uso jmtpfs. # apt-get install jmtpfs # mkdir /media/s4 # jmtpfs /media/s4 Mas opciones: # man jmtpfs Hola, ya instale y al momento en queintento conectarme me sale el siguiente mensaje: Unable to open ~/.mtpz-data for reading, MTPZ disabled.No mtp devices found. Me imagino que mtpz-data es un archivo que configura el galaxy. Un comentario mas. solo estoy trabajando SIN ENTORNO GRAFICO. ¿Este sirve sin entorno grafico?. Por cierto, se me olvido comentar que al hacer lsusb ya no me aparece la linea que antes si aparecia y que era: Bus 001 device 019: ID 04e8:6865 Samsung Electronics Co., LTD Cambie de cable y ahora si me reconoce nuevamente el dispositivo, pero ahora me sale otro aviso. Device 0 (VID=04e8 and PID=6860) is a Samsung Galaxy models (MTP). fusermount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/s4 su -c 'chown tu usuario /media/s4' jmtpfs /media/s4 Device 0 (VID=04e8 and PID=6860) is a Samsung Galaxy models (MTP). fusermount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/s4 yA ME DESESPERE... pero continuo... Como puedo montar este Galaxy S4? ¿ cambiá el punto de montaje a algo como ~/samsung-S4 (dentro de tu home o algo así donde seguro tengas permiso), ó muchos galaxy tienen, navegando por la configuración (el mío no es s4, pero está en la parte de conexiones inalámbricas(!)) para decirle que por usb se conecte como dispositivo de almacenamiento, vamos una memoria usb de toda la vida; y de esa forma, cualquier SO desde win98se podrá montarlo. Grcias buenisimas... Ya ha quedado. El problema era el punto de montaje. Ahora si ya se pudoacceder a los archivos de la memoria y a los archivos del tlefono. -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1433850287.1155.14.ca...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cam50unwq2vemhyjbiwffakk_zsz5zmbufxcsvttb7kuhyqd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
Esteu contraposant qüestions legals a qüestions d'interès o de sentit comú, i les dues coses no van sempre en sintonia, menys encara a les TIC. El 10/06/15 a les 16:25, Ernest Adrogué ha escrit: 2015-06-10, 15:07 (+0200); ja...@citrik.org escriu: Per ser més concrets, el problema que tinc jo amb el derexu al ulvidu és el següent: Vaig cometre l'error d'enviar un mail amb el meu nom complert, o sigui que si vaig a un buscador es pot saber la meva adreça. El que reclamaria com a propietari del correu és que s'esborrés aquest i així deixaria d'estar indexat. No hi veig el problema en esborrar un correu meu però no he obtingut resposta per fer-ho. I penso que és el meu dret a esborrar-lo. No crec que tinguis el dret d'obligar a un destinatari a esborrar un missatge que li has enviat. A part d'això, no depèn d'ells perquè les llistes de Debian s'arxiven a un munt de llocs. Per exemple: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/linux.debian.user.catalan http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user.catalan https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user-catalan@lists.debian.org/ I el problema és evident: d'entrada com sabem que qui demana esborrar un missatge és realment l'autor del missatge? No crec que els administradors d'aquests arxius es puguin o s'hagin de dedicar a aquestes coses, i menys quan ja hi ha sistemes per evitar que s'arxivin els missatges [1]. Cada u és responsable de què fa públic i què no. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-No-Archive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610164437.e5f01...@bendel.debian.org
Re: umask spécifique à un répertoire
Le man dit A child process created via fork(2) inherits its parent's umask. The umask is left unchanged by execve(2). Cela voudrait dire qu'il faut faire un fork, puis dans le process créé faire le umask qui sera valable pour tous les sous process de ce fork, mais pas ailleurs, non ? Thierry Le Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:29:23 +0200, steve dl...@bluewin.ch a écrit : Le 10-06-2015, à 17:10:58 +0200, Francois Lafont a écrit : Salut, On 10/06/2015 16:57, steve wrote: Je cherche à définir un umask spécifique à un répertoire. Je sais le faire à la main (« umask 177 » pour que les fichiers créés dans le répertoire où j'ai exécuté cette commande aient 600 comme permissions). Es-tu sûr que la commande usmask agisse uniquement au niveau du répertoire sur lequel tu te trouves ? Non, je me suis mal exprimé, je pensais déjà à la suite (le umask dans le .bashrc) quand j'ai rédigé cette partie du message. Et effectivement il semble global au compte. Sorry. Est-il donc possible de spécifier un umask par répertoire ? À ma connaissance ce n'est pas possible mais ça ne prouve rien. ;) C'est vrai ;) Une autre modeste âme aurait-elle une idée sur la question ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610173858.4b253...@archimede5.inria.fr
Re: umask spécifique à un répertoire
Le 10 juin 2015 18:02:54 UTC+02:00, Francois Lafont mathsatta...@free.fr a écrit : On 10/06/2015 17:33, NicoLagaffe wrote: Et pourquoi pas un chmod 600 mondossier chmod g+s mondossier Ainsi tout docs ou dossier crees dedans aura le meme umask. Non ? Il me semble que non. Changer le bit sgid d'un répertoire va agir sur le *groupe* *propriétaire* des fichiers créés dans le dit répertoire mais ça n'aura aucune influence sur la valeur des bits correspondant aux droits Unix de ce fichier. Si le PO veut agir sur le umask, c'est qu'il vaut agit sur la valeur par défaut des bits correspondant aux droits Unix d'un fichier lors de sa création, pas sur le propriétaire et le groupe propriétaire du fichier. -- François Lafont -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ml9n3f$h49$1...@ger.gmane.org Je pense que si, en tout c'est le comportement que cela a chez moi. -- NicoLagaffe http://nicolagaffe.net Librement propulsé par GNU/Linux
Re: Cinnamon crashing on Stretch
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 08:15:03AM -0700, Paul Anzel wrote: Hello everyone, I'm currently running Debian Stretch* and ran the usual apt-get update/upgrade yesterday. Subsequently, when I tried rebooting my machine Cinnamon keeps on crashing, giving me a prompt to go into Fallback mode (and if I tell it to restart Cinnamon, it just keeps on giving me the prompt again and again). AIUI, Cinnamon will drop to fallback mode if it's unable to use the 3D rendering capabilities of your graphics card. So, I'd look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there are any Warnings (WW) or Errors (EE). I tried uninstalling Cinnamon and then reinstalling it, and the problem persists. Is anyone else having this problem? Do I just need to wait a few weeks for the next upgrade (and try some other GUI), or is there something else I can do? This being testing, if it IS a broken package, the fix could appear any time from a few hours later (when the fix is obvious) to a few months (when it's a fiddly one and the developer doesn't have enough tuits). Thanks for the advice, Paul *I realize upgrading to Testing this early may have been a foolish choice. -- Paul Anzel Graduate Student in Applied Physics California Institute of Technology -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55785477.3060...@caltech.edu -- For more information, please reread. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Trying to install Adobe AIR
On 06/10/2015 10:43 AM, David Guyot wrote: Hello. Has anyone successfully installed AdobeAIR? if so could I have some help please? New to Debian. Support of AIR under Linux has been stopped in 2011 by Adobe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_AIR#Availability Regards. Yes, although Adobe quit supporting AIR on Linux some time ago, I have a client who needs (wants) to use an application called YNAB. YNAB requires the Adobe AIR runtime. I have kept the adobeair.2.6.0.19140.deb file on hand. (I originally downloaded it from the YNAB site. Apparently they kept it in .deb form to make life easier for their Debian and Ubuntu users.) I use gdebi to install the AIR runtime, and then I use the subsequently available AIR installer to install the YNAB .air file. If you're looking to support an old AIR app in this manner, it might work for you. If you were thinking of doing development, that's probably not going to work so well. I just checked the Adobe site. They have the version 2.6 AIR runtime installer for Linux available in their archive. The downside is that it's in .bin format. That just makes installing it a bit more cumbersome but still very doable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55786409.7020...@comcast.net
Re: Bloqueo del sistema de Debian 8
2015-06-09 6:58 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com: El lun, 08-06-2015 a las 22:55 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: 2015-06-08 11:41 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Mon, 08 Jun 2015 17:29:17 +0200, Norberto . escribió: Hola: Hola, recuerda que los mensajes a la lista deben ir en formato texto plano, es decir, evita usar html. Soy un usuario nuevo de Debian. He decidido instalar la versión stable + non-free de Debian 8.0.0 para hacerla mi sistema operativo principal porque he leído sobre la estabilidad de Debian. Y es la primera vez que escribo sobre un fallo. Pues bienvenido :-) En la distribución Debian 8.0.0, he visto que, de vez en cuando, se me queda bloqueado todo el sistema (y no sé qué hacer para desbloquearlo) cuando lo estoy usando de una manera normal, cuando lo uso para operaciones normales, como, por ejemplo, cambiar el factor de escalado de todos los textos del sistema operativo, aunque, lamentablemente, no recuerdo ningún caso más en concreto. Además, con una frecuencia que se acerca a una vez por cada uso del sistema operativo, se me corta de pronto la conexión a internet y tengo que reiniciar el router, cosa que no me ocurre en otros sistemas operativos basados en Debian como Ubuntu 15.04 o Linux Mint 17.1. Por si sirve de algo, uso la versión de 64 bits. Por tanto, he decidido desinstalar Debian 8.0.0 e instalar Debian 7.8.0, aunque no sé si en esta última versión me pasará lo mismo, pues quiero usar Debian para almacenar todos mis datos o, por lo menos, mis datos más importantes. Muchísimas gracias por todo. Cuando un sistema linux se queda colgado, lo primero que hago es intentar acceder a través de una terminal (Crtl+Alt+F1) o si esto tampoco es posible, una sesión SSH para comprobar si sigue vivo ya que muchas veces lo que se queda congelado es el entorno gráfico pero el núcleo (kernel) sigue funcionando sin problemas. Después, reviso los registros que están en /var/log/syslog por si hubiera algún mensaje de error relevante. En cualquier caso, hoy mismo ha salido una actualización gordita que es la 8.1, conviene que todos actualicéis porque las primeras versiones suelen salir con fallos debido a la presión por sacar una nueva versión, aunque realmente los fallos los van viendo los usuarios que se instalan la Debian recién salida del horno y claro, pasa lo que pasa (si hubiera más gente informado de bugs y errores esto pasaría con menor frecuencia :-P) Y ¿Dónde informo que hay un fallo?... ¿Cómo podría yo saber que si es un fallo del sistema o es un fallo mio? (aún no puedo instalar el driver de mi wifi con ndiswrapper 8-D). http://bugs.debian.org/ Gracias por la respuesta, leere el documento detalle en algun momento libre. Aunque a lectura rapido ya me percate de que debemos instalar una aplicacion parra reportar los fallos. Ahora solo seria cuestion de saber como detectar si es un fallo o soy yo (normalmente yo tengo los fallos) tendria que saber identificarlos, pero estoy seguro que el documento lo dira. Gracias por esta pregunta de newbie porque yo tambien lo soy, sigo aprendiendo aun despues de 12 años de usar mi maravilloso debian linux. Aprovecho agradecer el trabajo LIBRE de todos los que han colaborado en todo el mundo, gracias porque me siento con las manos DESATADAS para manejar mi sistema como yo deseo, cosa que no pude hacer en Windows ni con el SO de Apple. Los cuales uso para tareas cotidianas y cuando no me queda de otra pero que linux ocupa mi pensamiento mi corazon e incluso mis sueños LIBRES. Gracias a todos ustedes, por participar en esta comunidad LIBRE. Saludos debianeromx -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1433851087.1155.15.ca...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAM50uNxHmk+o4K3LfvG2n-1Y4Z+B1_o1etWTa9afAhhwp5ai=w...@mail.gmail.com
Re: umask spécifique à un répertoire
On 10/06/2015 17:43, steve wrote: Le man dit A child process created via fork(2) inherits its parent's umask. The umask is left unchanged by execve(2). Cela voudrait dire qu'il faut faire un fork, puis dans le process créé faire le umask qui sera valable pour tous les sous process de ce fork, mais pas ailleurs, non ? Hum… et pratiquement, ça veut dire quoi ? Ça veut juste dire que le umask est une propriété héritée lors de la création d'un processus enfant par le parent. Donc si dans ton shell courant par exemple tu as paramétré umask et que tu lances ensuite une commande qui entraîne un fork, le processus enfant créé aura le même umask. Mais tout cela n'a rien à voir l'idée de confiner le changement d'un umask à un répertoire donné. -- François Lafont -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ml9moh$afv$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: umask spécifique à un répertoire
Le 10-06-2015, à 18:02:54 +0200, Francois Lafont a écrit : On 10/06/2015 17:33, NicoLagaffe wrote: Et pourquoi pas un chmod 600 mondossier chmod g+s mondossier Ainsi tout docs ou dossier crees dedans aura le meme umask. Non ? Il me semble que non. Changer le bit sgid d'un répertoire va agir sur le *groupe* *propriétaire* des fichiers créés dans le dit répertoire mais ça n'aura aucune influence sur la valeur des bits correspondant aux droits Unix de ce fichier. Si le PO veut agir sur le umask, c'est qu'il vaut agit sur la valeur par défaut des bits correspondant aux droits Unix d'un fichier lors de sa création, pas sur le propriétaire et le groupe propriétaire du fichier. Absolument. Le propriétaire et le groupe ne doivent pas changer (c'est moi :)). L'idée est de pouvoir créer des fichiers dans un répertoire particulier avec des permissions 600, et c'est tout. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610160721.gc32...@petruzzello.ch
Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On Wednesday 10 June 2015 16:52:50 Bret Busby wrote: ERROR: Unable to find the development tool `cc` in your path; please make sure that you have the package 'gcc' installed. If gcc is installed on your system, then please check that `cc` is in your PATH. Have you done this? Start with: # aptitude search gcc and if necessary # aptitude install gcc If you already have gcc, then check your PATH as suggested. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506101720.10572.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Cinnamon crashing on Stretch
Could be https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787345 . Cheers. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Montar galaxy s4 en debian linux
2015-06-03 12:56 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:44:04 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: 2015-06-02 8:28 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: (...) Informacion extra el telefono tiene dos opciones cuando se conecta por usb 1 conectar como dispositivo multimedia (mtp) 2 conectar como camara (ptp) Lo he intentado con los dos y nada. Siendo que montar memorias usb para mi es muy comun y normal. ¿alguna idea de lo que pase? Buf, qué mal :-( Opciones: 1/ Selecciona mtp e intenta que algún programa que gestione ese protocolo logre detectar el móvil. Pense que podria montarlo sin recurrir a otra aplicacion. Sí, eso sería lo suyo. Rebusca en las opciones de configuración porque a veces esa opción está escondida... pero está. https://www.google.es/webhp?complete=0hl=engws_rd=cr,sslei=YT9vVdrWF8iPsgH2vYC4AQ#complete=0hl=enq=galaxy+s4+usb+mass+storage 2/ Saca la memoria (si se trata de la extraíble) y usa un lector de tarjetas para acceder a su contenido. El Galaxy esta blindado y no se puede acceder fisicamente a la memoria. ¿Dices que no se puede extraer la tarjeta SD? Raro, ¿no?... Ni que fuera un iPhone ;-( Asi es, no se puede extraer la memoria porque el telefono esta blindado, tiene una carcaza antigolpes, no se puede abrir. No viene asi de fabrica, fue tuneado por decirlo de alguna manera, trae aparte de su cristal de fabrica otro y que es blindado. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.06.03.17.56...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cam50unwdtw7cxk6hnyvvjxy-adshynb80j78gdrw2f8n47-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: System hangs on Debian 7.6 and 7.8 when enabling Cluster on die (COD) with Intel Haswell and Broadwell processors
On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 11:06 +, vincent...@mic.com.tw wrote: Hi Debian-user, I got an issue – “System hangs on Debian 7.6 and 7.8 when enabling Cluster on die (COD) with Intel Haswell and Broadwell processors”. Does Debian 7.6 support Cluster on Die (COD) feature with Intel processors? Is it normal for an OS to hang if this feature is turned on with no support available? If not, I would suggest filing a bug. At the very least it would be useful to document this in the known gotchas. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
installer une imprimante pdf
Bonsoir à tous, Je n'ai pas d'imprimante, je souhaite à partir de n'importe quelle application générer un fichier pdf que j'imprimerai sur mon lieu de travail. Quel paquet Debian faudrait-il installé? Merci pour vos réponses Alex PADOLY
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
He posat el rudimentari exemple de Mailman per fer-ne comparació amb una eina ben antiga, molt utilitzada, i que de fa tants anys que ha previst aquest problema. He vist arreu mètodes molt més eficaços, com per exemple: n...@correu.cat - no...correucat No demano la perfecció, sinó una mica de sensibilitat pels usuaris del segle XXI. El 10/06/15 a les 17:17, Alex Muntada ha escrit: Narcis Garcia: Debian.org és un referent, és el referent sobre Debian GNU/Linux i no és tant fàcil despatxar la gent amb un «doncs vés a un lloc on et tractin millor, o calla». Val a dir que és cert que la resposta era una mica seca i treu força a l'argument tènic que hi ha en el fons de tot. D'altra banda, quina dificultat tècnica té convertir un text de l'estil «nom a correu.cat http://correu.cat» en un «n...@correu.cat mailto:n...@correu.cat»? Si és un patró prou habitual, com és el cas dels arxius de qualsevol llista pública de Mailman, és trivial obtenir les adreces de correu camuflades amb aquest patró. Tampoc canvia res canviar @ per una imatge perquè seria un altre patró diferent. Salut, Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610164807.b7b52...@bendel.debian.org
Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Javier ArgentinaBBAR javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com wrote: De nuevo: -- Forwarded message -- From: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@ch.gob.cu Date: 2015-06-04 8:42 GMT-03:00 Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com This is the mail system at host olimpo.ch.gob.cu. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system yosa...@eprrg.ch.gob.cu: host correo.ch.gov.cu[10.11.10.29] said: 550 yosa...@eprrg.ch.gob.cu, Recipient unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command) Final-Recipient: rfc822; yosa...@eprrg.ch.gob.cu Original-Recipient: rfc822;yosa...@eprrg.ch.gob.cu Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; correo.ch.gov.cu Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 yosa...@eprrg.ch.gob.cu, Recipient unknown -- Mensaje reenviado -- From: Javier ArgentinaBBAR javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com To: DUS debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Cc: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 08:41:16 -0300 Subject: Rebote de lista Cuando envían correos a la lista, ¿están recibiendo rebotes de mailer-dae...@ch.gob.cu? Porque ya recibí un reporte de bounce amenzándome que me vas a desuscribir si eso sigue. Si, a mi tambien me llegan, nunc habia sucedido. JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cag0od5foxyujzwkhiyurzz0ghr2ukjxjvvreyujbkyfthb...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cag0od5ejqb7vupoczttxyfzz9on03e76kkbv9pfjfuhbt-...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAM50uNxfNyzEFjv-uU�xt28bdboa45vuuodcjbru4uxyk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Trying to install Adobe AIR
David Guyot: Joel R. Frank: Has anyone successfully installed AdobeAIR? if so could I have some help please? New to Debian. Support of AIR under Linux has been stopped in 2011 by Adobe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_AIR#Availability I successfully tried Wine to install the latest version for Windows (Adobe Air 18.0 for Win32) and then ran the application installer: wine /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Common Files/Adobe AIR/Versions/1.0/Adobe AIR Application Installer.exe With that, I installed the Zinio Reader for magazines, which needs Adobe Air. http://gb.zinio.com/www/apps/desktop.jsp This way I have access to the Linux Format (UK) magazine on PC. It all works amazingly well, without leaving any error messages. BTW, I did find a deb package here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/218410/discussions/0/558746089535184265/ It appears to be version 2.6.0.19170 and it looks like it can be installed with gdebi. I just haven't had time yet to sort it out. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610213213.906c8d93.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
Try adding nomodeset to the boot command if its not already there, I had to add that to make the driver work. - Nick On 06/10/2015 10:45 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 11/06/2015, Nick T. n...@ncktsp.com wrote: Oops, forgot to cc in the mailing list. - Nick On 06/10/2015 09:19 PM, Nick T. wrote: Install build-essential it should contain all the packages necessary to install the driver. Also you might want to install dkms if you don't want to reinstall the driver after every kernel update. - Nick Thank you for that. The driver installation appears to have subsequently succeeded. However, after rebooting, the system still does not see the external monitor (using System - Preferences - Monitors), and :~# lspci -nn | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:0416] (rev 06) So, the driver appears to be installed, but not implemented. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55789536.3070...@ncktsp.com
Re: Problème mise à jour Wheezy - Suite
On 06/10/2015 10:40 PM, Frédéric Marécaille wrote: Qu'entends tu par pourquoi diable n'y a t'il pas de configuration réseau fixe dessus? Et pourquoi, diable, ne postes tu pas ici le résultat qu'une foule de gens te propose d'essayer, pourquoi une description aussi vague? -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5578a2e0.4070...@gmail.com
Vers un gros problème matériel...
Bonsoir à tous, J'utilise un très vieille ordinateur qui grâce à Debian rend encore de loyaux services. Il y a près de 2 ans j'ai eu un souci avec la carte graphique, et Adrien Poupin, membre actif de la liste de diffusion, m'avait fait don d'une ancienne carte dont il pensait se débarrasser jusqu'à me la donner. J'ai essayé de remettre la main sur les messages qui a l'époque ont permis de mettre la main sur le problème de carte graphique. Malheureusement je n'y suis pas parvenu. Si je pense à cet entreaide datant de cette époque, c'est que ma bécane semble retrouver de vieux travers qui pour le moment prennent la forme suivante: * L'OS tourne, et l'unité centrale se met à vrombir lorsqu'elle commence à être sollicité. * Des coups avec la main sur l'unité centrale pour faire cesser le bruit (chut là-dedans! :-) * Cela peut se remettre à vrombir mais ce qui est inquiétant ce sont ces bruits: *clac!clac!clac!* À ce moment, la machine se fige, les bruits persistent... et généralement il faut y remédier en arrêtant la machine avec le /power off/. Par chance, j'ai pu ce soir vous écrire depuis cet ordinateur sans encombres. Mais je préfère vous en parler à vous tous pour essayer de trouver une solution technique et/ou matérielle à ce problème avant que la situation ne se dégrade. Par avance je tiens à vous remercier de votre attention. Bien à vous, et à bientôt pour les marches à suivre. -- Baptiste Cambon
Re: Problème mise à jour Wheezy - Suite
Qu'entends tu par pourquoi diable n'y a t'il pas de configuration réseau fixe dessus? Le mardi 09 juin 2015 à 11:36:12, Christophe a écrit : Hello, Le 09/06/2015 22:01, Frédéric Marécaille a écrit : # ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 74:27:ea:a1:46:de inet adr:192.168.0.16 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Masque:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:9171361 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6907278 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000 RX bytes:10273432775 (9.5 GiB) TX bytes:3585144154 (3.3 GiB) Interruption:42 Adresse de base:0x8000 loLink encap:Boucle locale inet adr:127.0.0.1 Masque:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:2460418 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2460418 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:0 RX bytes:1791461693 (1.6 GiB) TX bytes:1791461693 (1.6 GiB) # ping free.fr ping -c3 free.fr PING free.fr (212.27.48.10) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=25.4 ms 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=2 ttl=51 time=46.2 ms 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=3 ttl=51 time=47.7 ms --- free.fr ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 25.447/39.800/47.727/10.169 ms /etc/network/interfaces [...] 'route -n' et 'iptables -vnL' ?? Parce que ça commence à devenir mystique ton truc la ;) ... Au passage, si j'ai bien compris il s'agit d'un serveur ... pourquoi diable n'y a t'il pas de configuration réseau fixe dessus ? @+ Christophe. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55775c4c.9090...@stuxnet.org -- Frédéric Marécaille -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610204030.ga18...@numericable.fr
Re: Vers un gros problème matériel...
Vérifier : le ventilo du processeur, le ventilo de l'UC, le disque dur... Ne plus utiliser l'ordinateur, sauf pour vérifier courtement après chaque dépannage un par un. André On Wednesday 10 June 2015 21:31:46 Baptiste Cambon wrote: J'utilise un très vieille ordinateur qui grâce à Debian rend encore de loyaux services. Il y a près de 2 ans j'ai eu un souci avec la carte graphique, et Adrien Poupin, membre actif de la liste de diffusion, m'avait fait don d'une ancienne carte dont il pensait se débarrasser jusqu'à me la donner. J'ai essayé de remettre la main sur les messages qui a l'époque ont permis de mettre la main sur le problème de carte graphique. Malheureusement je n'y suis pas parvenu. Si je pense à cet entreaide datant de cette époque, c'est que ma bécane semble retrouver de vieux travers qui pour le moment prennent la forme suivante: * L'OS tourne, et l'unité centrale se met à vrombir lorsqu'elle commence à être sollicité. * Des coups avec la main sur l'unité centrale pour faire cesser le bruit (chut là-dedans! :-) * Cela peut se remettre à vrombir mais ce qui est inquiétant ce sont ces bruits: *clac!clac!clac!* À ce moment, la machine se fige, les bruits persistent... et généralement il faut y remédier en arrêtant la machine avec le /power off/. Par chance, j'ai pu ce soir vous écrire depuis cet ordinateur sans encombres. Mais je préfère vous en parler à vous tous pour essayer de trouver une solution technique et/ou matérielle à ce problème avant que la situation ne se dégrade. Bien à vous, et à bientôt pour les marches à suivre. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506102246.37623.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: Problème mise à jour Wheezy - Suite
en aparté, apt-get ou aptitude est une histoire de préférences personnelles ou convient il d'utiliser plutôt l'un que l'autre? Non, je ne veux pas de troll ;) Le mercredi 10 juin 2015 à 11:22:43, Jean-Jacques Doti a écrit : Le 09/06/2015 22:01, Frédéric Marécaille a écrit : # ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 74:27:ea:a1:46:de inet adr:192.168.0.16 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Masque:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:9171361 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6907278 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000 RX bytes:10273432775 (9.5 GiB) TX bytes:3585144154 (3.3 GiB) Interruption:42 Adresse de base:0x8000 loLink encap:Boucle locale inet adr:127.0.0.1 Masque:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:2460418 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2460418 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:0 RX bytes:1791461693 (1.6 GiB) TX bytes:1791461693 (1.6 GiB) # ping free.fr ping -c3 free.fr PING free.fr (212.27.48.10) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=25.4 ms 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=2 ttl=51 time=46.2 ms 64 bytes from www.free.fr (212.27.48.10): icmp_req=3 ttl=51 time=47.7 ms --- free.fr ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 25.447/39.800/47.727/10.169 ms /etc/network/interfaces # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp Le mardi 09 juin 2015 à 05:57:08, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Monday 08 June 2015 21:31:33 Frédéric Marécaille wrote: Bon, suite aux diverses recommandations, j'ai désactivé le protocole IPV6 sur ma Debian Wheezy (lien donné par Bernard Schoenacker). Toujours le même résultat: la mise à jour de la wheezy se heurte toujours à un problème de connection aux serveurs Debian. Je rappelle que le réseau sur cette Debian semble fonctionnel. Je ping des adresses internet en console. Je dispose par ailleur d'un portable sous Jessie pour lesquels les mises à jour fonctionnent normalement, je n'y comprends rien! Cette Debian wheezy est un PC fixe qui fait office de serveur, les mises à jours ne fonctionnent plus depuis quelques temps. Je n'ai pourtant pas fais de changement majeurs dessus... Dans tes premiers messages, l'erreur que tu remontais indiquait un problème de connexion en IPv6 vers le serveur miroir Debian. Comme la connexion IPv4 était bien fonctionnelle, un ping free.fr ne peut pas nous apprendre grand chose puisque ce ping se fait systématiquement en IPv4 (sinon, il faudrait utiliser la commande ping6). Cependant, tu indiques que le protocole IPv6 a été désactivé depuis (comme le confirme le résultat de la commande ifconfig). L'erreur que tu obtiens lors d'un aptitude update a donc dû changer. Quelle est cette erreur à présent ? Et rencontres-tu mes mêmes soucis avec apt-get ? Est-ce que la commande suivante : wget http://ftp.fr.debian.org/ fonctionne correctement ? Comme ces problèmes ne semblent survenir qu'avec aptitude (et apt-get ?), tu devrais jeter un coup d'œil sur l'ensemble des fichiers de configuration présent sous /etc/apt (en particulier ce qui se trouve dans les sous-répertoires apt.conf.d et preferences.d) pour voir si tu détectes quelque chose de bizarre. Bon courage, Jean-Jacques -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/557801e3.3010...@doti.fr -- Frédéric Marécaille -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150610204318.gc18...@numericable.fr
Re: initramfs
El Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:39:07 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: 2015-06-03 12:52 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: (...) Segun estuve leyendo, puedo reparar la particion dañada o con incosistencias mediante un cd-live de alguna distro (prefiero usar knopixx) y ejecutar fsck y-la-particion-que-deseo-reparar Mi pregunta ¿Esto es correcto? ¿Existe alguna otra manera de sacar los datos contenidos ahi y reinstalar nuevamente?. Sí, claro. Puedes sacar el disco duro y conectarlo mediante una caja USB en otro equipo. Desde ahí podrás pasarle el test que quieras y si te lo permite, montar la unidad para sacar los datos. Gracias por la respuesta, saque ya los datos como lo dijiste Camaleon. Ya QUEDO RESUELTO ESTE HILO. Lo que me preocupo es que se puede acceder a los datos solo desmontando fisicamente el disco y montandolo mediante linea de comandos y acceder a toda la informacion sin que me pidiera una contraseña. ¿Habria manera de proegerlos con alguna contraseña si se intenta montar el disco mediante usb? Puedes usar cifrado. Tienes que o bien usar cifrado por hardware (contenido en el firmware del propio disco duro y que necesita de un equipo con BIOS compatible o un sistema externo para pasarle la contraseña) o bien usar cifrado por software que funciona a nivel de sistema de archivos pudiendo cifrar todas las particiones del disco o sólo las que te convenga. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.06.10.17.15...@gmail.com
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
A 2015-06-10 16:25, Ernest Adrogué escrigué: 2015-06-10, 15:07 (+0200); ja...@citrik.org escriu: Per ser més concrets, el problema que tinc jo amb el derexu al ulvidu és el següent: Vaig cometre l'error d'enviar un mail amb el meu nom complert, o sigui que si vaig a un buscador es pot saber la meva adreça. El que reclamaria com a propietari del correu és que s'esborrés aquest i així deixaria d'estar indexat. No hi veig el problema en esborrar un correu meu però no he obtingut resposta per fer-ho. I penso que és el meu dret a esborrar-lo. No crec que tinguis el dret d'obligar a un destinatari a esborrar un missatge que li has enviat. A part d'això, no depèn d'ells perquè les llistes de Debian s'arxiven a un munt de llocs. Per exemple: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/linux.debian.user.catalan http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user.catalan https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user-catalan@lists.debian.org/ I el problema és evident: d'entrada com sabem que qui demana esborrar un missatge és realment l'autor del missatge? No crec que els administradors d'aquests arxius es puguin o s'hagin de dedicar a aquestes coses, i menys quan ja hi ha sistemes per evitar que s'arxivin els missatges [1]. Cada u és responsable de què fa públic i què no. Jo diria que si t'envien un correu-e desde la mateixa compta que està publicat seria suficient, no? En fins, veient com està el panorama ja desisteixo. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-No-Archive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/9fddad3d7749c4ecdb28ccaf306f6...@citrik.org
Re: Anybody know what the heck I use to read a .wps file?
Also, http://filext.com/ On 06/10/2015 12:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 10 June 2015 10:50:53 Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 10 June 2015 10:49:11 Kent West wrote: On 06/10/2015 09:43 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Anybody know what the heck I use to read a .wps file? I think .wps was a Microsoft Works file, from 15, 20 years ago, but I also think maybe a few other apps may have used that extension also. If it's just one file, I'd probably google for an online .wps converter. I also tend to think LibreWriter will open it. I'll try that, thanks Kent. Worked a treat. Thanks again. -- Kent West *))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com Praise Yah! \o/ Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene Cheers, Gene Heskett -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55789287.3070...@gmail.com
Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 11/06/2015, Nick T. n...@ncktsp.com wrote: Try adding nomodeset to the boot command if its not already there, I had to add that to make the driver work. This will probably make me seem even more stupid than I probably already appear, but, how do I do that? Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8ptgokv9fyspkxpxotjoprhupdgmbqkawn82eokiox...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Vers un gros problème matériel...
Bonsoir, On 06/10/2015 09:31 PM, Baptiste Cambon wrote: Bonsoir à tous, J'utilise un très vieille ordinateur qui grâce à Debian rend encore de loyaux services. Il y a près de 2 ans j'ai eu un souci avec la carte graphique, et Adrien Poupin, membre actif de la liste de diffusion, m'avait fait don d'une ancienne carte dont il pensait se débarrasser jusqu'à me la donner. J'ai essayé de remettre la main sur les messages qui a l'époque ont permis de mettre la main sur le problème de carte graphique. Malheureusement je n'y suis pas parvenu. Si je pense à cet entreaide datant de cette époque, c'est que ma bécane semble retrouver de vieux travers qui pour le moment prennent la forme suivante: * L'OS tourne, et l'unité centrale se met à vrombir lorsqu'elle commence à être sollicité. * Des coups avec la main sur l'unité centrale pour faire cesser le bruit (chut là-dedans! :-) * Cela peut se remettre à vrombir mais ce qui est inquiétant ce sont ces bruits: *clac!clac!clac!* À ce moment, la machine se fige, les bruits persistent... et généralement il faut y remédier en arrêtant la machine avec le /power off/. La dernière fois que j'ai eu ce genre de symptômes, c'était un disque qui était en train de lâcher.. Ou un ventilo. :) D'un côté ça peut juste être le ventilo qui, un peu désaxé, claque en accélérant - s'il est réglé pour suivre la charge dans le BIOS. Ça c'est pas grave.. Mais ça ne devrait pas freezer la machine. Et de l'autre, un disque dur qui s'essouffle et dont la tête de lecture commence à racler la piste : là, arrête tout et backup tes données le plus vite possible.. Avant d'être freezer définitivement. Dans tous les cas, il te faudra le démonter. Pour le DD si tu as un plot de lecture, ça peut t'éviter de booter dessus et d'optimiser le temps qu'il te reste. Bonne chance -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Nvidia vs AMD open source drivers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/06/2015 4:02 AM, Dan wrote: Thanks a lot for your answers. I can not use intel because the provider of our company only proposes AMD or NVIDIA for the workstations. I do not need a very fancy graphic card, I need something that works. I will proabably buy AMD as it seems to work well with the open source drivers. Intel is built-in to the modern CPUs, that's part of the beauty of it; including plenty of good bang for your buck and lower energy options than the super graphic cards that most people don't really need unless they are doing extreme gaming or other very serious grunt work with the GPU. Also, as I understand it, Nvidia will be requiring ALL code running on it's newer hardware to be signed code -- therefore no free or open source versions will work; you can of course opt for older hardware to hopefully not get caught up with this change. Cheers A. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlV4nLcACgkQqBZry7fv4vtpcQEA3w6REXmMLkOX/AhSUY9xkW9a 2ZjT/E5ucnKcG7iRMAcA/Ajn2a3scgWr7i5Otxaid9HZ94b19Z2GMzCq08ihQ5t3 =VAgr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55789cb8.5070...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: changing from BIOS to GPT [RESOLVED]
On 08/06/15 11:51 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 08/06/15 02:24 PM, Arno Schuring wrote: Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:24:20 +0200 From: geo...@nsup.org More precisely: a conforming UEFI firmware MUST be able to read FAT32 partitions. It CAN be able to read other types: apple's implementation can read apple's proprietary filesystem. If you KNOW that YOUR firmware supports ext2, you can use ext2. More likely, your firmware only supports FAT32, possibly NTFS. Ah, I did not know that the EFI spec didn't mandate FAT32 for the ESP. Its partition type in gdisk should be EF00, and it should be mounted on /boot/efi. Not much. It should be mounted there if you want to use grub-install with the default options, and probably a few other similar tools, but that is all. Well, default options are default options. Debian tools expect the ESP to be mounted at /boot/efi. That's enough of a should for me. Debian has always provided ways to deviate from the default setup, but that doesn't alter the premise. [ESP] is required to be present when using EFI boot. This is not true at all. When using UEFI boot, you need a bootloader on a supported filesystem in a supported partition, pointed by the UEFI variables for the menu. The GPT type of the partition is irrelevant. Yet, the EFI spec only requires the firmware to support FAT32... You need an UEFI system partition with the precise characteristics if you want your firmware to GUESS the bootloader to use on the device, without a boot variable pointing to it. ...and the EFI firmware only looks for bootloaders in a partition of type 0xEF or C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B. That you can find ways to configure your UEFI system to boot without a partition of that specific type doesn't invalidate my statement though. The spec mandates a discoverable partition, and it wouldn't surprise me if half of the firmwares out there would flatly refuse to read files from a partition with the wrong type. (which we already knew, as Windows does not support booting in EFI mode from an MBR-style disk) I am no windows specialist, but I doubt this is true: I have observed a barely-conforming laptop without BIOS emulation booting a windows 8 recovery USB stick formated in MBR format. From https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn336946.aspx: [..] you receive the error message: Windows cannot be installed to this disk. The selected disk is not of the GPT partition style, it's because your PC is booted in UEFI mode, but your hard drive is not configured for UEFI mode. You’ve got a few options: - Reboot the PC in legacy BIOS-compatibility mode. This option lets you keep the existing partition style. [..] - Reformat the drive for UEFI by using the GPT partition style. This option lets you use the PC’s UEFI firmware features. Regards, Arno Sorry that your e-mail provider has made your last 2 replies unreadable. Anyway, I spent more time playing around with it today. Neither grub-pc nor grub-efi wants to work. The HD shows up in the BIOS boot menu (invoked through F12 while the BIOS is executing) as a legacy boot device whether I have grub-pc or grub-efi installed, while my system rescue CD usb stick shows up in both legacy and UEFI. I've given up and am reinstalling Jessie using the new 8.1 installer. Hopefully this will result in a bootable system.. Reinstalling didn't work either. Debian 8.1 installer seems to think that I have an EFI system and installs as such, although with grub-pc. I even took the safe root and let it install files into the EF02 partition. Still refused to boot. It seemed to not want to boot with a GPT disk. So I took a look at the system BIOS. Nothing there to suggest a missed setting, so I went to the manufacturer's site and found an updated BIOS. Of course it was a DOS program... A quick run of unetbootin to create a FreeDOS bootable USB stick, then some fiddling around before it clicked that A: was memory and the USB stick was C:. Finally got the BIOS updated and now the system is booting OK (except that Windows 7 still needs to be fixed). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5578a0d1.5000...@torfree.net
Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 11/06/2015, Nick T. n...@ncktsp.com wrote: Oops, forgot to cc in the mailing list. - Nick On 06/10/2015 09:19 PM, Nick T. wrote: Install build-essential it should contain all the packages necessary to install the driver. Also you might want to install dkms if you don't want to reinstall the driver after every kernel update. - Nick Thank you for that. The driver installation appears to have subsequently succeeded. However, after rebooting, the system still does not see the external monitor (using System - Preferences - Monitors), and :~# lspci -nn | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:0416] (rev 06) So, the driver appears to be installed, but not implemented. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8npv+zzymqxkouvjma121m8psj5bat_7n7lgtpezb5...@mail.gmail.com
Problème de permission sur clés USB
Bonsoir à tous, J'ai installé récemment Debian 8. Toutes les clés USB sont montées avec pour propriétaire root. Je ne m'explique pas pourquoi. Pour contourner le problème d'écriture, j'ai modifié le fichier /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf comme suit : FS_MOUNTOPTIONS=-fstype=vfat,gid=plugdev,fmask=0002,dmask=0002 Reste qu'au démontage, je dois renseigner mon mot de passe root. Quelqu'un a-t-il des lumières sur ce problème ? D'avance, merci. Christophe -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5578a0f9.4020...@gmail.com
Re: Correus publicats a lists.debian.org
Narcis Garcia: No demano la perfecció, sinó una mica de sensibilitat pels usuaris del segle XXI. Em temo molt que aquest argument no pesa gaire tenint en compte que els spammers poden obtenir les adreces igualment si se subscriuen a la llista o si miren qualsevol dels altres arxius que existeixen. Entenc la preocupació per l'spam però no crec que aquesta sigui la via per resoldre el problema, que és força més complex. Salut, Alex
Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
Edit /etc/default/grub as root and append nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT save exit and run update-grub as root. - Nick On 06/10/2015 10:55 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 11/06/2015, Nick T. n...@ncktsp.com wrote: Try adding nomodeset to the boot command if its not already there, I had to add that to make the driver work. This will probably make me seem even more stupid than I probably already appear, but, how do I do that? Thank you in anticipation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55789739.8040...@ncktsp.com
Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 11/06/2015, Nick T. n...@ncktsp.com wrote: Edit /etc/default/grub as root and append nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT save exit and run update-grub as root. - Nick On 06/10/2015 10:55 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 11/06/2015, Nick T. n...@ncktsp.com wrote: Try adding nomodeset to the boot command if its not already there, I had to add that to make the driver work. This will probably make me seem even more stupid than I probably already appear, but, how do I do that? Thank you in anticipation. After appending, the file is thus; :~# cat /etc/default/grub # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update # /boot/grub/grub.cfg. GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2 /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet nomodeset GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= # Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs # This works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains # the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...) #GRUB_BADRAM=0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) #GRUB_TERMINAL=console # The resolution used on graphical terminal # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo' #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass root=UUID=xxx parameter to Linux #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true # Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY=true # Uncomment to get a beep at grub start #GRUB_INIT_TUNE=480 440 1 And, in running thence, update-grub, I get this; :~# update-grub /etc/default/grub: 7: nomodeset: not found Sould I have entered the string nomodeset, differently? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACX6j8PXJ3NYmxee8jpaOW1-56a=Fwwe=ddlcuurwuudzoy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Consulta tonta
Con fecha Martes, 09 de Junio de 2015, 10:40:31 p.m., Aradenatorix escribió: El 8 de junio de 2015, 8:05 a. m., Eduardo Gil escribió: El 05/06/15 a las #4, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus escribió: Eso lo entiendo y en aras de la claridad, te comento: A) Documentos de texto tanto ofimáticos como de texto plano de ciertos documentos y bases de datos, hojas de cálculo, presentaciones, en PDF y algunas imágenes. B) Sinceramente no tenemis ni un GB en los 3 meses que tenemos y dudo que logremos llegar a 1 TB en lo que resta del año. Si bien la cantidad de archivos es grande (algunos cientos ya) la verdad es que en conjunto no demandan mucha capacidad de almacenamiento, así que podemos olvidarnos de los petabytes en un buen rato. C) No tengo claro a que te refieres con disponibilidad, pero uhm... necesitamos tener acceso a los documentos que hemos ido almacenando y en todo caso poder editar simultáneamente los que vamos generando. D) Pues tampoco se como definir el tipo de consulta, vamos, con la documentación almacenada que es de referencia basta poder leerla, solamente con los documentos que generamos habrá que leer y poder escribir. El acceso a impresión no es algo que importe mucho ahora, con un equipo que tenga acceso a ella basta. Actualmente es de menos de 0.002 TeraByte Suena bien pero algo sofisticado eso del FTP en comparacion con servicios como owncloud. Mira... r Para lo que TU necesitas lo recomendable es usar una PC común y silvestre. Con un micro CHICO y RAM de 2 o 4 GB y un disco. NADA MÁS. Con eso te alcanza para armar un NAS. Fijate si puedes encontrar una mother con varias entradas SATA (para preveer posibles instalaciones de nuevos discos) Es muy fácil. CON un DEBIAN 8 montas un FTP que te puede hacer de server para almacenar históricos (BAckUP o archivos que no se van a modificar) y por lo demás accedes por RED compartiendo los directorios. Más simple imposible. -- Saludos, Eduardomailto:egis_e...@yahoo.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/164488762.20150610172...@yahoo.com.ar
Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
nomodeset goes inside the quotes derp :P GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet nomodeset - Nick On 06/10/2015 11:23 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 11/06/2015, Nick T. n...@ncktsp.com wrote: Edit /etc/default/grub as root and append nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT save exit and run update-grub as root. - Nick On 06/10/2015 10:55 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 11/06/2015, Nick T. n...@ncktsp.com wrote: Try adding nomodeset to the boot command if its not already there, I had to add that to make the driver work. This will probably make me seem even more stupid than I probably already appear, but, how do I do that? Thank you in anticipation. After appending, the file is thus; :~# cat /etc/default/grub # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update # /boot/grub/grub.cfg. GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2 /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet nomodeset GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= # Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs # This works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains # the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...) #GRUB_BADRAM=0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) #GRUB_TERMINAL=console # The resolution used on graphical terminal # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo' #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass root=UUID=xxx parameter to Linux #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true # Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY=true # Uncomment to get a beep at grub start #GRUB_INIT_TUNE=480 440 1 And, in running thence, update-grub, I get this; :~# update-grub /etc/default/grub: 7: nomodeset: not found Sould I have entered the string nomodeset, differently? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55789d99.9060...@ncktsp.com
Re: Nvidia vs AMD open source drivers
Hi, Andrew, If what you say is correct about Nvidia only allowing signed code in future (and I have no doubt that you are correct) I, for one will break the habit of a long time, and cease buying NVIDIA cards. I had looked at their Shield as a tablet, but now... Terence On 10 June 2015 at 21:23, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/06/2015 4:02 AM, Dan wrote: Thanks a lot for your answers. I can not use intel because the provider of our company only proposes AMD or NVIDIA for the workstations. I do not need a very fancy graphic card, I need something that works. I will proabably buy AMD as it seems to work well with the open source drivers. Intel is built-in to the modern CPUs, that's part of the beauty of it; including plenty of good bang for your buck and lower energy options than the super graphic cards that most people don't really need unless they are doing extreme gaming or other very serious grunt work with the GPU. Also, as I understand it, Nvidia will be requiring ALL code running on it's newer hardware to be signed code -- therefore no free or open source versions will work; you can of course opt for older hardware to hopefully not get caught up with this change. Cheers A. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlV4nLcACgkQqBZry7fv4vtpcQEA3w6REXmMLkOX/AhSUY9xkW9a 2ZjT/E5ucnKcG7iRMAcA/Ajn2a3scgWr7i5Otxaid9HZ94b19Z2GMzCq08ihQ5t3 =VAgr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55789cb8.5070...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
Oops, forgot to cc in the mailing list. - Nick On 06/10/2015 09:19 PM, Nick T. wrote: Install build-essential it should contain all the packages necessary to install the driver. Also you might want to install dkms if you don't want to reinstall the driver after every kernel update. - Nick On 06/10/2015 09:00 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 11/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 10 June 2015 16:52:50 Bret Busby wrote: ERROR: Unable to find the development tool `cc` in your path; please make sure that you have the package 'gcc' installed. If gcc is installed on your system, then please check that `cc` is in your PATH. Have you done this? Start with: # aptitude search gcc and if necessary # aptitude install gcc If you already have gcc, then check your PATH as suggested. Lisi Okay. So, I installed gcc, using apt-get, then tried again. Then, got the same error regarding make. So, I installed make, then tried again, and got two further errors. See log file below. And, some may wonder why I prefer software (like hardware drivers) that can be installed using a package manager that takes care of all such problems... :~# cat /var/log/nvidia-installer.log nvidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' creation time: Thu Jun 11 01:48:43 2015 installer version: 346.72 PATH: /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin nvidia-installer command line: ./nvidia-installer Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface - Detected 8 CPUs online; setting concurrency level to 8. - License accepted. - Installing NVIDIA driver version 346.72. - Performing CC sanity check with CC=/usr/bin/cc. - The CC version check failed: The compiler used to compile the kernel (gcc 4.3) does not exactly match the current compiler (gcc 4.4). The Linux 2.6 kernel module loader rejects kernel modules built with a version of gcc that does not exactly match that of the compiler used to build the running kernel. If you know what you are doing you can either ignore the CC version check and continue installation, or abort installation, set the CC environment variable to the name of the compiler used to compile your kernel, and restart installation. (Answer: Ignore CC version check) ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel and that they are properly configured; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' or 'kernel-devel' RPM installed. If you know the correct kernel source files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the '--kernel-source-path' command line option. ERROR: Installation has failed. Please see the file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details. You may find suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com. I do not know why the hardware manufacturers make getting their hardware operational, so difficult. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55788078.3010...@ncktsp.com
Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 06/10/2015 02:00 PM, Bret Busby wrote: I do not know why the hardware manufacturers make getting their hardware operational, so difficult. Are you using the nvidia run-file install or the non-free Debian nvidia installer? In the case of the run-file, it must have it's tools. Yes, you can safely ignore gcc version. There's plenty of how-to's with cut and paste command line instructions to go either way. https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Works a charm and will auto-update as needed. Ric Add contrib and non-free components to /etc/apt/sources.list, for example: # Debian 8 Jessie deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free Update the list of available packages. Install the appropriate linux-headers and kernel module packages: # aptitude update # aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') nvidia-kernel-dkms This will also install the recommended nvidia-driver package. DKMS will build the nvidia module for your system. (nvidia-xconfig as root) Create an Xorg server configuration file. Restart your system to enable the nouveau blacklist. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/557883a2.2010...@gmail.com
