No aparece el icono de iceweasel 41.0.2 en la barra lateral izquierda de Gnome (Favoritos)

[Eduardo Rios]

Al actualizar Iceweasel (rama experimental) en Debian Stretch, de la 
versión 41.0.1 a la versión 41.0.2, no aparece correctamente el icono de 
la comadreja en la barra lateral de aplicaciones rápidas, o favoritas o 
como se llame esa barra.


Sin embargo, si pulsamos el botón de 9 cuadradillos, si aparece el icono 
junto a todas las demás aplicaciones.


Quitarla de favoritos y volverla a añadir no soluciona el problema.

Aviso a navegantes :-)

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Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server [SOLVED]

[Fredrik Jonson]

Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>  Fredrik Jonson  writes:
> > What is the recommended way to enable Systemd user services with Debian?
> [...]
>  The documentation for "loginctl enable-linger" says "If enabled for a
>  specific user, a user manager is spawned for the user at boot and kept
>  around after logouts." I guess you didn't restart the system?
>
>  [...]
>
>  A user manager should in either case also be started when logging
>  in. This is handled by logind + libpam-systemd. I assume you might not
>  have the latter installed?

Good guess, that's another culprit identified:

 foouser@host$ sudo apt-get install libpam-systemd
 foouser@host$ sudo shutdown -r now
 [... the system reboots]
 [... I've previously created ~/.config/systemd/user/foo.service]
 foouser@host$ systemctl --user enable foo
 foouser@host$ systemctl --user start foo

Succes!

What a great friday afternoon. Debian is awesome!

>  I don't think you can just start "systemd --user" as it wants to manage
>  cgroups for services it spawns. "/lib/systemd/system/user@.service" has
>  Delegate=yes to allow it to do so.

Right, I was just aimlessly typing commands that I hoped where anywhere close
to relevant to resolving the problem. :)

>  libpam-systemd is also responsible for setting the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
>  variable.
>
>  libpam-systemd is currently at Priority: optional. I'm wondering if it
>  should be raised to Priority: standard.

Maybe. I gleaned at the package documentation and wasn't totally convinced it
was relevant. There was already a file /etc/pam.d/systemd-user from the systemd
package, so I didn't understand that I also had to install another package that
provided the actual pam module. Would it not make more sense to have the pam
config in the same package that provides the actual pam module?

Still there might have been relevant keywords that I should have picked up on,
the package description does state:

 This package contains the PAM module which registers user sessions in
 the systemd control group hierarchy.

OTOH, in the next paragraph I read the following statement, that definitively
steered me away from installing it:

 If in doubt, do install this package.

When debian developers tells me in their package documentation that I really
should not install their package, I tend to follow their advice. :)

Anyway, it works now.

In summary, to enable systemd user units on boot in Debian, the following steps
are required:

 sudo apt-get install dbus libpam-systemd
 sudo loginctl enable-linger [USER]
 sudo shutdown -r now

Ansgar, I'm greatful, thanks for all your advice!

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SOLVED - Re: fstab entry for a 3.6TB drive

[Sharon Kimble]

Cindy-Sue Causey  writes:

> On 10/15/15, Sharon Kimble  wrote:
>> Darac Marjal  writes:
>>
>>> Also, does /back-a exist (mount won't create the mountpoint itself, so
>>> your root filesystem should have a "back-a" directory entry)?
>>>
>> Thanks Darac.
>>
>> This is what I've ended up doing -
>>
>> --8<---cut here---start->8---
>> /dev/sdb1   /mnt/backa  ext4defaults,nofail 0 2
>> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>>
>> This *does* load and works, except it doesn't appear in the devices or
>> other drives section of "nautilus". How can it be done please, such that
>> it is mounted, and accessible to me, on this stand-alone 64bit computer,
>> please?
>
>
> That happens to me, too. Thunar is my (Xfce4) file manager. ALWAYS
> takes my brain a second to realize where my partition has wandered off
> the charts to. I've just this very second finally figured out how to
> compensate for it with Thunar (k/t StackExchange):
>
> Right click > Send To > Side Pane (Create Shortcut)
>
> Is there any chance that Nautilus has that feature? I've used it/LOVED
> it in a file manager other than Thunar, just can't remember if it was
> Nautilus or Dolphin. If it's available, it may also be called
> "bookmark" as an alternative..
>
> Cindy :)

Thanks Cindy, nautilus does have the ability to 'bookmark' my drive, and
I did do so, but it only appeared as a bookmark and not a drive, which
is what I wanted.

So the final solution, for the benefit of the archives, is -

╭
│/dev/sdb1   /mnt/backa  ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 2
╰

Thanks all who provided solutions, which helped me to achieve the final
solution. 

Sharon.
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Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[moxalt]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:51:49 -0700 (PDT), ray  wrote:

> > This seems very strange- if you are able to get the free version to boot you
> > should be able to get the non-free ISO to boot as well. They are identical,
> > save the inclusion of non-free firmware.
>  Yes.
> > 
> > The 'no bootable device' message- does this occur when you select the hard
> > drive as the boot device, or the USB? The hard drive is understandable
> > (since there is no longer a boot loader or operating system on it) but this
> > really should not happen with the USB. Can you describe your BIOS settings
> > to us? UEFI, Secure Boot, CSM, that sort of thing.
> 
> The 'no bootable device' came with an attempted boot from the hard disk
> (actually an SSD).  I have disabled secure boot.  I do not have the laptop
> with me so I will check that when I get back to it.
> 
>  
> > I would also recommend you prepare the boot device with Rufus. It is by far
> > the best USB ISO writer for Windows. Pity you don't have access to a UNIX
> > box with dd...
> 
> I am using Rufus.  I do have a stretch installation on a desktop. But I have
> not attempted to build an installation disk from there.  But I am very will
> to try that.  Some details on links would be great.

Writing hybrid ISO images to USB under UNIX is easier than you think. I don't
even need to link you anything- I can describe the process right here. Simply
download the Debian ISO image, plug in a USB, make sure it is unmounted, and
then run the following command:

# dd if= of=/dev/ bs=4M;sync

Replace  with the file you wish to write,  with the
device you wish to write to (it must be the master interface, not a partition),
and hit enter. In a few seconds the image should be written, no problem. Remove
the USB and boot as desired.

Here's an example from my own system:

# dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M;sync

That writes the file debian.iso to my USB drive at /dev/sdb. BEWARE! Your
system may differ. Use lsblk to determine the name of your USB drive's device-
although usually /dev/sdb, if you have more than one SATA hard drive this may
vary. If you write to the incorrect device, you will end up overwriting things.

Once you get the hang of dd, I assure you that you will find it easier than any
of the graphical Windows USB writing shenanigans. Good luck. dd never fails.

[OT] Disco rescatado ddrescue img

[Maykel Franco]

Hola buenas, si uso ddrescue para sacar una imagen (o lo que pueda) de
un disco duro que da bastantes fallos, consigo sacar una imagen .img
entera del disco, por ejemplo /dev/sda, podría montarla con losetup
como si de un disco duro físico se tratara??

Es para no tener que restaurarlo en un HDD ya que tarda bastante...al
ir bloque por bloque.

Gracias de antemano.

Re: SOLVED - Re: fstab entry for a 3.6TB drive

[Felix Miata]

Sharon Kimble composed on 2015-10-16 18:48 (UTC+0100):

> So the final solution, for the benefit of the archives, is -

> ╭
> │/dev/sdb1   /mnt/backa  ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0
>  2
> ╰

> Thanks all who provided solutions, which helped me to achieve the final
> solution. 

"defaults" is a placeholder for the options column in fstab, intended for
fstab entries for which no options for deviating from kernel defaults are
desired or required. Using it in addition to any other option(s) is
redundant. In the above case,

defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show

is equivalent to

nofail,x-gvfs-show
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Re: Warsaw

[Rodrigo Germano de Paula]

Alguém está enfrentando problemas pra abrir o putty no windows com o plugin
do BB instalado? Só consegui fazer funcionar aqui após renomear a pasta
gbplugin via linux.

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IFB Campus Planaltina
Contato: (61) 21962601

Em 15 de outubro de 2015 23:45, Richard Antunes  escreveu:

> Boa noite amigos,
>
> Eu acho que deve ser isso que o Antônio disse. É bem provável.
>
> *Richard Antunes*
> Tecnólogo em Metalurgia
>
>
>
> Em Quinta-feira, 15 de Outubro de 2015 9:44, Adiel de Lima Ribeiro <
> adiel.netad...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>
> Srs, não sei se é o caso do Warsaw, mas alguns aplicativos bacunçam o
> sources.list do Debian.
> Tive problema com isso depios de instalar o Google Earth, o apt não
> atualizava mais o sistema.
> Segui as dicas da internet e blah blah blah, nada resolveu.
> Fiz um teste desinstalando o Google Earth e... problema resolvido.
>
> On 10/15/2015 09:35 AM, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 04:05:53AM +, Richard Antunes wrote:
> >> Olá Thiago,
> >> obrigado pela sua opinião.Eu achei estranho também o fato de só o
> "http//:ftp.debian.org" apresentar erro, os outros conectaram normalmente.
> > a versão desse negócio pra windows dava um problema com ipv6, se vc
> > estivesse numa rede ipv6 nativa vc não conseguia acessar outros sites
> > ipv6 ou algo assim. o nic.br publicou um relato disso aí. como o
> > ftp.debian.org tem um endereço ipv6, pode ser que a versão pra gnu/linux
> > também tenha um problema parecido.
>
>
> --
> Cordialmente,
> Adiel de Lima Ribeiro
> (31) 8961-5984
> Pós Graduação em Administração de Redes Linux
> MCSA - Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Túnel ssh sobre proxy 8080

[En-No]

El 7 de octubre de 2015, 18:08, fernando sainz  escribió:

> El día 7 de octubre de 2015, 17:31, José Miguel (sio2)
>  escribió:
> > El Wed, 07 de Oct de 2015, a las 04:56:03PM +0200, fernando sainz dijo:
> >
> >> Chromium lee las variables de entorno para el proxy, con lo que puedes
> >> usarlas si lo prefieres.
> >>
> >> export http_proxy=http://localhost:9000/
> >> export https_proxy=$http_proxy
> >> export ftp_proxy=$http_proxy
> >> export rsync_proxy=$http_proxy
> >> #  export no_proxy="localhost,127.0.0.1"  # esta no, para este caso.
> >
> > Ya, pero de lo que se trata aquí es de usar un proxy socks. He mirado y
> > sí se puede incluyendo un un parámetro:
> >
> >
> https://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/network-stack/socks-proxy
>
> Ah! vale, he visto que se puede poner:
>
> export http_proxy=socks5://localhost:9000/
>
>
> S2.
>
>
Mírate el plugin FoxyProxy .. https://getfoxyproxy.org ... te sera mas útil
y fácil para la navegación web

Re: FW: xfsdump package not available in testing?

[Sharon Kimble]

Nemeth Gyorgy  writes:

> 2015-10-16 08:04 keltezéssel, James Homuth írta:
>
>> Poking around the Debian packages website, xfsdump should be available
>> in Stretch per that page (link included below). However:
>> # apt-get install xfsdump   
>> Reading package lists...
>> Done  
>> Building dependency
>> tree   
>> Reading state information...
>> Done  
>> Package xfsdump is not available, but is referred to by another
>> package.   
>> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted,
>> or  
>> is only available from another
>> source  
>> However the following packages replace
>> it: 
>>  
>> xfsprogs 
>> 
>>  
>>   
>> 
>> E: Package 'xfsdump' has no installation
>> candidate 
>> I have xfsprogs installed, but it doesn't supply xfsdump/xfsrestore. The
>> package that does, apparently, isn't available. AmI missing something
>> obvious?
>>  
>> Package link: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/xfsdump
>
> It should be in testing. Did you do apt-get update?
>
> On my system (with sid and testing in sources.list):
> apt-cache policy xfsdump
> xfsdump:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: 3.1.4
>   Version table:
>  3.1.4 0
> 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
> 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64

The "rmadison" command is very useful, and in this case shows -

--8<---cut here---start->8---
rmadison xfsdump
xfsdump| 3.0.4 | oldoldstable| source, amd64, i386
xfsdump| 3.0.6 | oldstable   | source, amd64, armel, armhf, 
i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, s390x, sparc
xfsdump| 3.1.4 | stable  | source, amd64, arm64, armel, 
armhf, i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el
xfsdump| 3.1.4 | stable-kfreebsd | source
xfsdump| 3.1.4 | testing | source, amd64, arm64, armel, 
armhf, i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el
xfsdump| 3.1.4 | unstable| source, amd64, arm64, armel, 
armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el
xfsdump| 3.1.4+b1  | stable  | s390x
xfsdump| 3.1.4+b1  | testing | s390x
xfsdump| 3.1.4+b1  | unstable| s390x
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

This shows that you can install the "jessie" package, which is the same
as in "stretch/testing" and "sid/unstable".

Thanks
Sharon.
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Notebook for Debian 8.2 jessie ( solved )

[Peter Berlau]

Hi, 

i buyed this notebook

Lenovo G700 Windows 7 Pro 64Bit - 43.94 cm (17,3 Zoll) - 8GB RAM -
ultraschnelle 508GB SSH - USB3.0 - Intel Pentium 2020M, 2x2,4GHz

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00K6KFRFM?psc=1=true_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

and all I have to do was put the Debian-CD in the CD-Slot and hit
 , give root-password, make new user ... finished...

runs out of the box, 
with gnome, sound, Web-Cam, WiFi...

runs fast , i'm happy.

Thanks for all Your help, patience and tipps, so I can find this
notebook and having
absolut no problems... 

Best Regards,
 Peter

Re: No monitor in GNOME Control Center - Color

[Pascal Obry]

Sven,

> (No need to cc me, I'm subscribed to the list)

Understood. That's different for different people. I think it is more
polite to CC people you're talking too. But again, that's quite
personal, so sorry for CCed you.

> No, this is on an Intel system.
> 
> As I mentioned on the gtk-gnome list, I get this error from gcm
> -inspect:
> 
> failed to get XServer profile data: failed to get property
> failed to get XServer protocol version: failed to get propert

Hum, we may be looking at different issues:

$ gcm-inspect --verbose
19:54:28Verbose debugging enabled (on console 1)

No other output, no display (not sure if one is expected).

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Re: problemas con nouveau en testing

[Gonzalo Rivero]

El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 22:38 +0200, Santiago José López Borrazás
escribió:
> El 16/10/15 a las 21:48, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
> > de todas maneras, yo creo que es algo con el módulo del kernel
> > (suponiendo que funcione como los drivers privativos de nvidia, que
> > tenía un módulo del kernel y otra parte para las X), porque antes
> > que
> > me pase esto después del grub, cuando cargaba las primeras cosas ya
> > tenía señal en la segunda pantalla (la que conecté por vga)
> 
> sjlopezb@local:~$ lsmod | grep nouveau
> nouveau  1196032  7
> mxm_wmi16384  1 nouveau
> ttm73728  1 nouveau
> drm_kms_helper 90112  1 nouveau
> drm   237568  10 ttm,drm_kms_helper,nouveau
> i2c_algo_bit   16384  1 nouveau
> wmi20480  3 dell_wmi,mxm_wmi,nouveau
> button 16384  1 nouveau
> video  24576  3 dell_wmi,nouveau,dell_laptop
> 
> Eso es lo que tengo...y...funcionando.
> 
tengo /casi/ los mismos: la única diferencia es el orden en que
aparecen, aunque supongo que por el modprobe a mano

> > cat fbdev-blacklist.conf 
> > # This file blacklists most old-style PCI framebuffer drivers.
> > 
> > blacklist arkfb
> > blacklist aty128fb
> > blacklist atyfb
> > blacklist radeonfb
> > blacklist cirrusfb
> > blacklist cyber2000fb
> > blacklist kyrofb
> > blacklist matroxfb_base
> > blacklist mb862xxfb
> > blacklist neofb
> > blacklist pm2fb
> > blacklist pm3fb
> > blacklist s3fb
> > blacklist savagefb
> > blacklist sisfb
> > blacklist tdfxfb
> > blacklist tridentfb
> > blacklist vt8623fb
> 
> Tengo eso yo también, pero no me refiero a eso, me refiero al
> controlador
> nvidia, o lo que tengas, yo lo tuve, lo borré y pasé directamente a
> nouveau,
> sin fallos, ni follones, ni nada. ¡Y así está la máquina!...no tengo
> que
> retocarle nada.
> 
claro, en su momento, hace mas de un año ya, pensé que había hecho lo
mismo. Estaba re podrido de los drivers de nvidia -a pesar que unos
años antes dkms me había resuelto varios- que recompilar con kernel
nuevo, con nuevo x.org, que en  cuanto me enteré que nouveau tenía 3D
para mi placa lo dejé con esto y no tuve mas dramas hasta ahora


> > estaba escribiendo este mail, cuando encontré
> > modprobe.d/nvidia.conf,
> > que me llamó la atención, y es un enlace simbólico a nvidia.conf ->
> > /etc/alternatives/nvidia--nvidia-modprobe.conf . Iba a ver el
> > contenido, pero por alguna causa (¿intuición femenina?...aunque soy
> > hombre jeje) se me ocurrió hacer:
> > modprobe nouveau
> 
> Debes desinstalar los paquetes de NVIDIA que tengas en APT, por lo
> tanto,
> deberás borrar todo lo que tengas de los paquetes (no borres para
> nada el
> fichero /etc/X11/xorg.conf, para nada. Lo necesitarás para 'retocar'
> un poco
> al tener las Xorg decentes. ;-))
> 
desde nouveau ya no lo necesitaba

> Yo, hace meses lo hice muy inteligentemente, que se trata de borrar
> todos
> los paquetes instalados en Debian, sólo los NVIDIA. Luego, es ese
> fichero a
> borrar, para luego reiniciar y entrar como los módulos que he dado
> arriba
> (depende de qué hardware, pues cambia el módulo, pero sí, funciona.
> 
> > se apaga la pantalla unos segundos... y de nuevo en gdm, con mis
> > 1920x1080, entonces encendí la otra pantalla y tadáaaa, estaba
> > (aunque
> > esta es una a 1280x1024 de máxima resolución y me dio pena tirar
> > cuando
> > compré la nueva). Lo bueno es que evolution me conservó el mail.
> 
> Hombre!!! Puedes modificar el fichero /etc/X11/xorg.conf, para poder
> 
> Como así:
> 
> (...)
> 
> Desinstala los paquetes de NVIDIA que tengas en el sistema, luego me
> lo
> cuentas al reiniciar.
> 
> 
man apt-cache
(...)
OPCIONES
   Todas las opciones de la línea de órdenes...
      --installed
   Limita la salida de depends y rdepends a paquetes actualmente 
instalados. Opción de configuración: APT::Cache::Installed.
(...)q
root@gonzalo:~$ apt-cache --installed search nvidia
E: No se entiende la opción de línea de órdenes --installed

FFFUU x-( 
Ya tengo otro problema para reportar; mientras tanto voy por aptitude,
viendo los paquetes instalados. Ahora estoy sacando nvidia-modprobe,
nvidia-alternative, nvidia-vdpau-driver, que quien sabe cuanto tiempo
llevarán en mi sistema.

Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server [SOLVED]

[Michael Biebl]

Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:

>  If in doubt, do install this package.
> 
> When debian developers tells me in their package documentation that I really
> should not install their package, I tend to follow their advice. :)

 Did you maybe misread that as
"If in doubt, do *not* install this package".

Otherwise your replay doesn't make sense, unless you meant it sarcastic
in some kind of way.


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Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Richard Owlett]

Joel Rees wrote:

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


[snip]

How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?

http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin=1
gave no relevant links.

A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.

I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome
3!!!;}.
I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.




I received two suggestions, neither suitable:
r>>1. nodm was recommended by the ??? who has publicly stated 
that he ignores

  how I phrase my questions.


NO, NO, NO!

Brian is just trying to tell you you are asking the wrong questions!


ROFL! ;/
In https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/09/msg00423.html
Brian wrote:

I wrote:

[snip]
I explicitly tried to eliminate GUI and GUI-like responses by subject line.

I explicitly ignored the effort. :)




How much EASIER it would be if you would only give in to the
inevitable coming standardization on systemd.


You have jumped to confusion. I have yet to decide. The only 
thing I will say definitely is that I have yet to be pointed to 
something written *by systemd developers* directed to *end users* 
saying what benefit the _end user_ gains.


My current Linux machine has Debian 8.0 with Mate DE and maximum 
use of defaults:

  no printer drivers as no printer
  no networking as no network (local OR internet) physically present
I skipped Wheezy for two reasons:
  Gnome3 default UI was unusable
  systemd was/is terra igcognita.
I tried Jessie as:
  Mate was available as standard choice [I don't wish to 
consider backports]

  systemd dust seemed to be settling





   2. runit was also suggested. I chased down a series of links but didn't see
  how to apply it to my preferences.


Brian is right about one thing, the various DEs are not unified on
this particular point.  Whether we should accept his implicit
assertion that systemd will (ultimately) unify the DEs (and servers
and IoT devices) on all things technical, well, I won't touch that
today.


Prior to my post I had done a web search for "autologin". I did another with
[I assume] slightly different criteria. I suspect "DE independence" may not
be achievable.



Well, not exactly. Consider the differences between Android 4 and
Android 5 on this exact point.[snip]


I've no relevant Android experience.

Re: problemas con nouveau en testing

[Santiago José López Borrazás]

El 16/10/15 a las 21:48, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
> de todas maneras, yo creo que es algo con el módulo del kernel
> (suponiendo que funcione como los drivers privativos de nvidia, que
> tenía un módulo del kernel y otra parte para las X), porque antes que
> me pase esto después del grub, cuando cargaba las primeras cosas ya
> tenía señal en la segunda pantalla (la que conecté por vga)

sjlopezb@local:~$ lsmod | grep nouveau
nouveau  1196032  7
mxm_wmi16384  1 nouveau
ttm73728  1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper 90112  1 nouveau
drm   237568  10 ttm,drm_kms_helper,nouveau
i2c_algo_bit   16384  1 nouveau
wmi20480  3 dell_wmi,mxm_wmi,nouveau
button 16384  1 nouveau
video  24576  3 dell_wmi,nouveau,dell_laptop

Eso es lo que tengo...y...funcionando.

> cat fbdev-blacklist.conf 
> # This file blacklists most old-style PCI framebuffer drivers.
> 
> blacklist arkfb
> blacklist aty128fb
> blacklist atyfb
> blacklist radeonfb
> blacklist cirrusfb
> blacklist cyber2000fb
> blacklist kyrofb
> blacklist matroxfb_base
> blacklist mb862xxfb
> blacklist neofb
> blacklist pm2fb
> blacklist pm3fb
> blacklist s3fb
> blacklist savagefb
> blacklist sisfb
> blacklist tdfxfb
> blacklist tridentfb
> blacklist vt8623fb

Tengo eso yo también, pero no me refiero a eso, me refiero al controlador
nvidia, o lo que tengas, yo lo tuve, lo borré y pasé directamente a nouveau,
sin fallos, ni follones, ni nada. ¡Y así está la máquina!...no tengo que
retocarle nada.

> estaba escribiendo este mail, cuando encontré modprobe.d/nvidia.conf,
> que me llamó la atención, y es un enlace simbólico a nvidia.conf ->
> /etc/alternatives/nvidia--nvidia-modprobe.conf . Iba a ver el
> contenido, pero por alguna causa (¿intuición femenina?...aunque soy
> hombre jeje) se me ocurrió hacer:
> modprobe nouveau

Debes desinstalar los paquetes de NVIDIA que tengas en APT, por lo tanto,
deberás borrar todo lo que tengas de los paquetes (no borres para nada el
fichero /etc/X11/xorg.conf, para nada. Lo necesitarás para 'retocar' un poco
al tener las Xorg decentes. ;-))

Yo, hace meses lo hice muy inteligentemente, que se trata de borrar todos
los paquetes instalados en Debian, sólo los NVIDIA. Luego, es ese fichero a
borrar, para luego reiniciar y entrar como los módulos que he dado arriba
(depende de qué hardware, pues cambia el módulo, pero sí, funciona.

> se apaga la pantalla unos segundos... y de nuevo en gdm, con mis
> 1920x1080, entonces encendí la otra pantalla y tadáaaa, estaba (aunque
> esta es una a 1280x1024 de máxima resolución y me dio pena tirar cuando
> compré la nueva). Lo bueno es que evolution me conservó el mail.

Hombre!!! Puedes modificar el fichero /etc/X11/xorg.conf, para poder

Como así:

ection "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "nVidia Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"
Monitor"Monitor genérico"
DefaultDepth   24
Option "RenderAccel" "true"
   SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes  "1440x900"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes  "1440x900"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes  "1440x900"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes  "1440x900"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes  "1440x900"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes  "1440x900"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   32
Modes  "1440x900"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Lo cambias a 1920x1080, lo guardas y reinicias el xDM que tengas cargando y
ya te muestra a los 1920x1080 que prefieres tener, ¡sin trucos!...

> Mando este mail, y voy a reiniciar mi computadora de nuevo para ver que
> módulos carga el kernel, y después encontrar la forma que cargue
> siempre nouveau. Tendría que haber empezado por el modprobe

Desinstala los paquetes de NVIDIA que tengas en el sistema, luego me lo
cuentas al reiniciar.

Tú dirás.

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Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 16 October 2015 21:13:43 Richard Owlett wrote:
> I skipped Wheezy for two reasons:
>    Gnome3 default UI was unusable
>    systemd was/is terra igcognita.

Not using Wheezy to avoid systemd is novel. All you have to do to use Wheezy 
and avoid systemd is install a default Wheezy.

> I tried Jessie as:

>systemd dust seemed to be settling

*Jessie* is the first version with default systemd.  And that is an odd idea 
of dust settling!

Lisi

Re: Criando LiveCD do Debian

[Carlos Donizete]

Ola Semspam

Não ira resolver.

Preciso de um programa que faz tipo uma copia identica a da minha
maquina com o instalador.

O Remastersys fazia isto pra mim antes, tipo com todos os pacotes
instalados, montagem com ambiente grafico, entre outros.

Deste jeito, eu terei que instalar tudo, configurar tipo o
"freshplayerplugin" no Iceweasel, oracle java para o IRPF do cliente,
drivers da impressora samsung, que são coisas que ira exigir baixar na
internet, e sabe que modem 3G tem limite de franquia de downloads.

Por isto que preciso de algo parecido que faz uma imagem identico da
minha maquina em ISO ja com um instalador.

Em Qui, 2015-10-15 às 22:26 -0300, Semspam escreveu:
> Os DVDs do debian não resolvem o problema?
> 
> On 15-10-2015 21:05, Carlos Donizete Froes wrote:
> 
> > Ola,
> > 
> > Antigamente há uns 5 anos atrás, usava muito o programa remastersys
> > pra customizar o Ubuntu já com programas necessários instalados e
> > todas atualizações do sistema para os clientes sem precisar usar a
> > internet.
> > 
> > Agora tem um cliente antigo que ainda esta usando o Ubuntu 10.04 que
> > tinha instalado um tempão e gostaria de atualizar. Logicamente estou
> > querendo mudar para o Debian Jessie, mas lá o cara usa conexão 3G,
> > onde irá ficar complicado em instalar do zero e instalar os
> > programas que gosta de usar.
> > 
> > Pensei fazer uma imagem de minha maquina que esta bem atualizado, e
> > ai não iria precisar baixar praticamente nada via modem 3G.
> > 
> > Pelo visto o remastersys foi descontinuado, será que possui um outro
> > programa fácil para fazer um LiveCD com o instalador?
> > 
> > Obrigado e ate mais!
> > 
> > -- 
> > Carlos Donizete Froes [a.k.a coringao]
> > - https://wiki.debian.org/coringao
> > GPG: 4096R/83749015
> > CD3B CF35 CB95 8EB6 1F95  D22F 2E53 BDEA 8374 9015
> 

-- 
Carlos Donizete Froes [a.k.a coringao]
- https://wiki.debian.org/coringao
GPG: 4096R/83749015
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Re: problemas con nouveau en testing

[Gonzalo Rivero]

El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 07:39 +0200, Santiago José López Borrazás
escribió:
> El 16/10/15 a las 02:25, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
> (...)
> > Me tocará revisar porque no lo carga, o que no le gusta
> 
> apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
> 
 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ya está en su versión más reciente.

de todas maneras, yo creo que es algo con el módulo del kernel
(suponiendo que funcione como los drivers privativos de nvidia, que
tenía un módulo del kernel y otra parte para las X), porque antes que
me pase esto después del grub, cuando cargaba las primeras cosas ya
tenía señal en la segunda pantalla (la que conecté por vga)

> En todo caso, revisa si tienes el fichero que bloquea los módulos de
> nouveau
> en /etc/modprobe.d/
> 
cat fbdev-blacklist.conf 
# This file blacklists most old-style PCI framebuffer drivers.

blacklist arkfb
blacklist aty128fb
blacklist atyfb
blacklist radeonfb
blacklist cirrusfb
blacklist cyber2000fb
blacklist kyrofb
blacklist matroxfb_base
blacklist mb862xxfb
blacklist neofb
blacklist pm2fb
blacklist pm3fb
blacklist s3fb
blacklist savagefb
blacklist sisfb
blacklist tdfxfb
blacklist tridentfb
blacklist vt8623fb

estaba escribiendo este mail, cuando encontré modprobe.d/nvidia.conf,
que me llamó la atención, y es un enlace simbólico a nvidia.conf ->
/etc/alternatives/nvidia--nvidia-modprobe.conf . Iba a ver el
contenido, pero por alguna causa (¿intuición femenina?...aunque soy
hombre jeje) se me ocurrió hacer:
modprobe nouveau

se apaga la pantalla unos segundos... y de nuevo en gdm, con mis
1920x1080, entonces encendí la otra pantalla y tadáaaa, estaba (aunque
esta es una a 1280x1024 de máxima resolución y me dio pena tirar cuando
compré la nueva). Lo bueno es que evolution me conservó el mail.

Mando este mail, y voy a reiniciar mi computadora de nuevo para ver que
módulos carga el kernel, y después encontrar la forma que cargue
siempre nouveau. Tendría que haber empezado por el modprobe

Re: problemas con nouveau en testing [SOLUCIONADO]

[Gonzalo Rivero]

El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 18:28 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
> El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 22:38 +0200, Santiago José López Borrazás
> escribió:
> > El 16/10/15 a las 21:48, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
> > > de todas maneras, yo creo que es algo con el módulo del kernel
> > > (suponiendo que funcione como los drivers privativos de nvidia,
> > > que
> > > tenía un módulo del kernel y otra parte para las X), porque antes
> > > que
> > > me pase esto después del grub, cuando cargaba las primeras cosas
> > > ya
> > > tenía señal en la segunda pantalla (la que conecté por vga)
> > 
> > sjlopezb@local:~$ lsmod | grep nouveau
> > nouveau  1196032  7
> > mxm_wmi16384  1 nouveau
> > ttm73728  1 nouveau
> > drm_kms_helper 90112  1 nouveau
> > drm   237568  10 ttm,drm_kms_helper,nouveau
> > i2c_algo_bit   16384  1 nouveau
> > wmi20480  3 dell_wmi,mxm_wmi,nouveau
> > button 16384  1 nouveau
> > video  24576  3 dell_wmi,nouveau,dell_laptop
> > 
> > Eso es lo que tengo...y...funcionando.
> > 
> tengo /casi/ los mismos: la única diferencia es el orden en que
> aparecen, aunque supongo que por el modprobe a mano
> 
> > > cat fbdev-blacklist.conf 
> > > # This file blacklists most old-style PCI framebuffer drivers.
> > > 
> > > blacklist arkfb
> > > blacklist aty128fb
> > > blacklist atyfb
> > > blacklist radeonfb
> > > blacklist cirrusfb
> > > blacklist cyber2000fb
> > > blacklist kyrofb
> > > blacklist matroxfb_base
> > > blacklist mb862xxfb
> > > blacklist neofb
> > > blacklist pm2fb
> > > blacklist pm3fb
> > > blacklist s3fb
> > > blacklist savagefb
> > > blacklist sisfb
> > > blacklist tdfxfb
> > > blacklist tridentfb
> > > blacklist vt8623fb
> > 
> > Tengo eso yo también, pero no me refiero a eso, me refiero al
> > controlador
> > nvidia, o lo que tengas, yo lo tuve, lo borré y pasé directamente a
> > nouveau,
> > sin fallos, ni follones, ni nada. ¡Y así está la máquina!...no
> > tengo
> > que
> > retocarle nada.
> > 
> claro, en su momento, hace mas de un año ya, pensé que había hecho lo
> mismo. Estaba re podrido de los drivers de nvidia -a pesar que unos
> años antes dkms me había resuelto varios- que recompilar con kernel
> nuevo, con nuevo x.org, que en  cuanto me enteré que nouveau tenía 3D
> para mi placa lo dejé con esto y no tuve mas dramas hasta ahora
> 
> 
> > > estaba escribiendo este mail, cuando encontré
> > > modprobe.d/nvidia.conf,
> > > que me llamó la atención, y es un enlace simbólico a nvidia.conf
> > > ->
> > > /etc/alternatives/nvidia--nvidia-modprobe.conf . Iba a ver el
> > > contenido, pero por alguna causa (¿intuición femenina?...aunque
> > > soy
> > > hombre jeje) se me ocurrió hacer:
> > > modprobe nouveau
> > 
> > Debes desinstalar los paquetes de NVIDIA que tengas en APT, por lo
> > tanto,
> > deberás borrar todo lo que tengas de los paquetes (no borres para
> > nada el
> > fichero /etc/X11/xorg.conf, para nada. Lo necesitarás para
> > 'retocar'
> > un poco
> > al tener las Xorg decentes. ;-))
> > 
> desde nouveau ya no lo necesitaba
> 
> > Yo, hace meses lo hice muy inteligentemente, que se trata de borrar
> > todos
> > los paquetes instalados en Debian, sólo los NVIDIA. Luego, es ese
> > fichero a
> > borrar, para luego reiniciar y entrar como los módulos que he dado
> > arriba
> > (depende de qué hardware, pues cambia el módulo, pero sí, funciona.
> > 
> > > se apaga la pantalla unos segundos... y de nuevo en gdm, con mis
> > > 1920x1080, entonces encendí la otra pantalla y tadáaaa, estaba
> > > (aunque
> > > esta es una a 1280x1024 de máxima resolución y me dio pena tirar
> > > cuando
> > > compré la nueva). Lo bueno es que evolution me conservó el mail.
> > 
> > Hombre!!! Puedes modificar el fichero /etc/X11/xorg.conf, para
> > poder
> > 
> > Como así:
> > 
> > (...)
> > 
> > Desinstala los paquetes de NVIDIA que tengas en el sistema, luego
> > me
> > lo
> > cuentas al reiniciar.
> > 
> > 
> man apt-cache
> (...)
> OPCIONES
>    Todas las opciones de la línea de órdenes...
>       --installed
>    Limita la salida de depends y rdepends a paquetes
> actualmente instalados. Opción de configuración:
> APT::Cache::Installed.
> (...)q
> root@gonzalo:~$ apt-cache --installed search nvidia
> E: No se entiende la opción de línea de órdenes --installed
> 
> FFFUU x-( 
> Ya tengo otro problema para reportar; mientras tanto voy por
> aptitude,
> viendo los paquetes instalados. Ahora estoy sacando nvidia-modprobe,
> nvidia-alternative, nvidia-vdpau-driver, que quien sabe cuanto tiempo
> llevarán en mi sistema.
> 
> 
> 
parece que alcanzó con borrar esos paquetes. Me quedaba como
alternativa, cargar el módulo del kernel de forma semi-automática, como
se hacía antes, en el /etc/modules . 
No se si seguirá funcionando eso

Re: problemas con nouveau en testing

[Santiago José López Borrazás]

El 16/10/15 a las 23:28, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
(...)
> man apt-cache
> (...)
> OPCIONES
>Todas las opciones de la línea de órdenes...
>   --installed
>Limita la salida de depends y rdepends a paquetes actualmente 
> instalados. Opción de configuración: APT::Cache::Installed.
> (...)q
> root@gonzalo:~$ apt-cache --installed search nvidia
> E: No se entiende la opción de línea de órdenes --installed
> 
> FFFUU x-( 
> Ya tengo otro problema para reportar; mientras tanto voy por aptitude,
> viendo los paquetes instalados. Ahora estoy sacando nvidia-modprobe,
> nvidia-alternative, nvidia-vdpau-driver, que quien sabe cuanto tiempo
> llevarán en mi sistema.

No se busca así hombre, se busca así:

dpkg -l | grep nvidia

Te salen los paquetes que 'supongamos' los tengas instalados.

No hay truco...es sencillo...sólo hay que buscar un poco de mano.

Yo aquí sigo, que estoy a tropecientos miles de sitios a la vez.


-- 
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câble non branché au démarrage mais dhclient s'exécute

[Prego Jérémy]

bonjour,

je suis sous debian jessie noyau 4.2.0. Lorsque je démarre mon 
ordinateur sans câble branché sur eth0 j'ai  dhclient qui cherche un 
dhcp en permanence ce qui me pose un petit problème.


je précise que je n'ai pas de gestionnaire de connection graphique

un ethtool eth0 me donne bien: Link detected: no

et mon fichier /etc/network/interfaces concernant eth0

allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

donc je pense que tout es bon mais pas pour lui visiblement ...


merci,

jerem.

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Brian]

On Fri 16 Oct 2015 at 17:49:01 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:46:16 +0900
> Joel Rees  wrote:
> 
> > How much EASIER it would be if you would only give in to the
> > inevitable coming standardization on systemd.
> 
> Are you aware how this sound, which bringsg to mind "We are systemd of
> Borg, resistance is futile"...

I wish you had not said that. It's another sleepless night ahead of me.

smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

[rlharris]

I would like to find something like a smartphone discussion list for the
technically-oriented -- not for the "Isn't Siri marvelous?" crowd.  I am
interested in liabilities regarding security and privacy, rather than in
features.

I spend much time on the highway, and Internet access (to view a map, to
search for a telephone number, and even now and then GoogleEarth) would be
valuable.

So I need to see what is available by way of a smartphone, or perhaps a
tablet computer.  Is there anything small which can run Debian?

Russ

Re: ¿Problemas con extensión Openweather de Gnome?

[Javier Barroso]

Hola,

El vie., 16 oct. 2015 16:22, Camaleón  escribió:

El Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:13:06 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

> El 15/10/15 a las 15:36, Camaleón escribió:
>> El Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:28:02 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:

(...)

>>> me pasó lo mismo, en extensions.gnome.org, en la parte de esa
>>> extensión vi que había que registrarse en openwheatermaps (o algo así,
>>> tengo mi computadora medio renga y no tengo el link exacto a mano), de
>>> donde sacás una llave que cargás en la configuración del clima y ya lo
>>> ves de nuevo
>>
>> Ugh¹ :-(
>>
>> Registrarse para saber el tiempo me parece un requisito ridículo (!),
>> esos datos deben ser públicos y de acceso anónimo.
>>
>> ¹https:// 
extensions.gnome.org
/
extension
/750/
openweather
/

>>
>>
> Pienso como tu. Extensión deshabilitada y punto. Que esperen sentados mi
> registro...

Tiene que haber más extensiones con esa funcionalidad ¿no? De hecho era
de uno de los applets más usados en GNOME 2 y no había que hacer
malabares para que funcionara más allá de decirle la ubicación.

De todas formas, si el registro en una página de terceros es un requisito
de obligado cumplimiento para que funcione la extensión, no debería estar
en los repositorios "main" de Debian sino en "contrib" o "non-free".

En cualquier caso, el instalador debería advertir ese hecho.



Se ha reportado[1], supongo q algo harán para solucionarlo

Algo parecido pasaba con la geolocalizacion de iceweasel[2]

Saludos!

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=801979
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=726230

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Richard Owlett]

David Wright wrote:

Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com):

On Friday 16 October 2015 01:46:16 Joel Rees wrote:

One problem is that some kiosk mode techniques assume that you really
don't want to login at all, where others will require you to make a
choice of which user login to auto-login as.


Surely, if you have to make a choice it is no longer *auto*login?


Were I to set up a machine at home to autologin, I would not want it
to login as me, nor root, nor anonymous. I would configure a user
called, say, "kiosk" and that would be my "choice of which user login
to auto-login as."

IOW no choice has to be made each time you actually power-up the machine.


How
  Squeeze with Gnome2?
  Jessie with Mate?

The user name would be myexperiments. It would have minimal set 
of privileges.

Re: Criando LiveCD do Debian

[Carlos Donizete]

Ola Tiago,

Este live-systems.org não ira servir. :/

Quero fazer uma copia identica de minha maquina e instalar na maquina do
cliente.


Em Qui, 2015-10-15 às 21:14 -0300, Tiago Rocha escreveu:
> http://live-systems.org/
> Dá uma lida no manual. É bem simples de usar.
> 
> Em 15 de outubro de 2015 21:05:49 BRT, Carlos Donizete Froes
>  escreveu:
> Ola,
> 
> Antigamente há uns 5 anos atrás, usava muito o programa
> remastersys pra customizar o Ubuntu já com programas
> necessários instalados e todas atualizações do sistema para os
> clientes sem precisar usar a internet.
> 
> Agora tem um cliente antigo que ainda esta usando o Ubuntu
> 10.04 que tinha instalado um tempão e gostaria de atualizar.
> Logicamente estou querendo mudar para o Debian Jessie, mas lá
> o cara usa conexão 3G, onde irá ficar complicado em instalar
> do zero e instalar os programas que gosta de usar.
> 
> Pensei fazer uma imagem de minha maquina que esta bem
> atualizado, e ai não iria precisar baixar praticamente nada
> via modem 3G.
> 
> Pelo visto o remastersys foi descontinuado, será que possui um
> outro programa fácil para fazer um LiveCD com o instalador?
> 
> Obrigado e ate mais!
> 
> -- 
> Carlos Donizete Froes [a.k.a coringao]
> - https://wiki.debian.org/coringao
> GPG: 4096R/83749015
> CD3B CF35 CB95 8EB6 1F95  D22F 2E53 BDEA 8374 9015
> 

-- 
Carlos Donizete Froes [a.k.a coringao]
- https://wiki.debian.org/coringao
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Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[ray]

That sounds great, I will try that right now.

Can files be added to the USB?

I am guessing that since the USB is not mounted, DD does not require any type 
of prep.  

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Ron]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:46:16 +0900
Joel Rees  wrote:

> How much EASIER it would be if you would only give in to the
> inevitable coming standardization on systemd.

Are you aware how this sound, which bringsg to mind "We are systemd of Borg, 
resistance is futile"...
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
  Force has no place where skill is needed.
   -- Herodotus

   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 

Re: problemas con nouveau en testing [SOLUCIONADO]

[Santiago José López Borrazás]

El 16/10/15 a las 23:35, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
> parece que alcanzó con borrar esos paquetes. Me quedaba como
> alternativa, cargar el módulo del kernel de forma semi-automática, como
> se hacía antes, en el /etc/modules . 
> No se si seguirá funcionando eso

Ya, sólo ya borrados los paquetes, no tendrás problema, lo del
nvidia-vdpau-driver puedes utilizar el mesa-vdpau-drivers.

Yo tengo estos:

root@local:/etc/X11# dpkg -l | grep vdpau
ii  libvdpau-dev:i386 1.1.1-1
  i386 Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix
(development files)
ii  libvdpau1:i3861.1.1-1
  i386 Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix
(libraries)
ii  mesa-vdpau-drivers:i386   10.6.8-1
  i386 Mesa VDPAU video acceleration drivers
ii  vdpau-va-driver:i386  0.7.4-dmo6
  i386 VDPAU-based backend for VA API
root@local:/etc/X11#

¡Así sí que me funciona!... ;-)

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Re: Criando LiveCD do Debian

[Carlos Donizete]

Este programa faz a imagem ".iso" identico da maquina?


Em Sex, 2015-10-16 às 00:08 -0300, Juscelino Cordeiro escreveu:
> De uma procurada no google por systemback. Deve servir pro q quer
> fazer. 
> 
> Enviado do meu iPhone
> 
> Em 15/10/2015, às 22:26, Semspam  escreveu:
> 
> 
> > Os DVDs do debian não resolvem o problema?
> > 
> > On 15-10-2015 21:05, Carlos Donizete Froes wrote:
> > 
> > > Ola,
> > > 
> > > Antigamente há uns 5 anos atrás, usava muito o programa
> > > remastersys pra customizar o Ubuntu já com programas necessários
> > > instalados e todas atualizações do sistema para os clientes sem
> > > precisar usar a internet.
> > > 
> > > Agora tem um cliente antigo que ainda esta usando o Ubuntu 10.04
> > > que tinha instalado um tempão e gostaria de atualizar. Logicamente
> > > estou querendo mudar para o Debian Jessie, mas lá o cara usa
> > > conexão 3G, onde irá ficar complicado em instalar do zero e
> > > instalar os programas que gosta de usar.
> > > 
> > > Pensei fazer uma imagem de minha maquina que esta bem atualizado,
> > > e ai não iria precisar baixar praticamente nada via modem 3G.
> > > 
> > > Pelo visto o remastersys foi descontinuado, será que possui um
> > > outro programa fácil para fazer um LiveCD com o instalador?
> > > 
> > > Obrigado e ate mais!
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Carlos Donizete Froes [a.k.a coringao]
> > > - https://wiki.debian.org/coringao
> > > GPG: 4096R/83749015
> > > CD3B CF35 CB95 8EB6 1F95  D22F 2E53 BDEA 8374 9015
> > 
> > 

-- 
Carlos Donizete Froes [a.k.a coringao]
- https://wiki.debian.org/coringao
GPG: 4096R/83749015
CD3B CF35 CB95 8EB6 1F95  D22F 2E53 BDEA 8374 9015




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Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

[Brian]

On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 17:40:57 -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:

> On Thu, October 15, 2015 5:11 pm, Brian wrote:
> > An ISP hands out an address in a private range and it is assigned to the
> > external interface of a router? I do not understand this but know I have
> > much to learn about networking. Any enlightenment in the offing?
> 
> No; in the present (original) installation, the address (192.168.100.3) is
> assigned to the (Windows desktop) computer, and there is no router.
> 
> But, conceptually, is there anything wrong with assigning a private IP
> address to the WAN port of a router?

I don't get out much :). Thanks to David Wright for introducing me to
WISP and Joe for the clear explanation.

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

[rlharris]

On Fri, October 16, 2015 2:30 am, Joe wrote:
> Yes, that should work. I believe your initial difficulty was in setting
> the IP address on your computer to one in the same network as the original
> printer's address.

That, and not understanding that the ip address reported by Windows was
assigned by the DHCP server of the ISP.

> Probably the router can pick up the outside address by DHCP, but if
> not, you know what it is.

If the router cannot pick up the outside address, I am in trouble.  The
day I was there, the address corresponding to the radio link happened to
be 192.168.100.3, but tomorrow it could be 192.168.100.123 or anything
else.

However, in another network about a year ago I plugged the WAN port of a
Wi-Fi router into the BLUE port of IPCop, and was using NAT and DHCP of
the Wi-Fi router together with a wired network on BLUE, so I am confident
that this setup is going to work.

For me, this has been an enlightening experience; and, from the standpoint
of time expended, expensive.

I am grateful to have received help from you and the others who frequent
this list.

Russ

Re: fstab entry for a 3.6TB drive

[Petter Adsen]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:57:11 +0100
Sharon Kimble  wrote:
> Thanks Darac.
> 
> This is what I've ended up doing -
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> /dev/sdb1   /mnt/backa  ext4defaults,nofail 0 2
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> This *does* load and works, except it doesn't appear in the devices or
> other drives section of "nautilus". How can it be done please, such that
> it is mounted, and accessible to me, on this stand-alone 64bit computer,
> please?

If you add 'x-gvfs-show' to the mount options, it should be displayed
in Nautilus. Or you can simply access the drive by navigating
to /mnt/backa.

Petter

-- 
"I'm ionized"
"Are you sure?"
"I'm positive."


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FW: xfsdump package not available in testing?

[James Homuth]

 

  _  

From: James Homuth [mailto:ja...@the-jdh.com] 
Sent: October-15-15 11:29 AM
To: debian-test...@lists.debian.org
Subject: xfsdump package not available in testing?


Poking around the Debian packages website, xfsdump should be available in
Stretch per that page (link included below). However:
# apt-get install xfsdump
Reading package lists... Done

Building dependency tree

Reading state information... Done

Package xfsdump is not available, but is referred to by another package.

This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or

is only available from another source

However the following packages replace it:

  xfsprogs

 

E: Package 'xfsdump' has no installation candidate


I have xfsprogs installed, but it doesn't supply xfsdump/xfsrestore. The
package that does, apparently, isn't available. AmI missing something
obvious?
 
Package link: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/xfsdump

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 16 October 2015 01:46:16 Joel Rees wrote:
> One problem is that some kiosk mode techniques assume that you really
> don't want to login at all, where others will require you to make a
> choice of which user login to auto-login as.

Surely, if you have to make a choice it is no longer *auto*login?

Lisi

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

[Joe]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:11:45 +0100
Brian  wrote:


> 
> An ISP hands out an address in a private range and it is assigned to
> the external interface of a router? I do not understand this but know
> I have much to learn about networking. Any enlightenment in the
> offing?
> 

That's an easy one. An ISP unwilling or unable to lease public addresses
for all his customers. In the old days, there was just a modem pool,
much smaller than the number of customers, but now everyone is online
all the time. It's not unusual with the really big domestic ISPs who
came to the game too late (or were in the wrong country) to get enough
addresses.

It also ensures that nobody runs any kind of service, and the other
side of that coin is that nobody can try to break in apart from other
customers on the same broadcast domain. Less helpdesk hassle. The moral
is that if you're changing ISP and you want a public address, make sure
first that you'll be getting one.

-- 
Joe

Re: iscsi support in Jessie

[Reco]

Hi.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 08:06:16 +0200
Harald Dunkel  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Some years ago I have setup an iscsi target using targetcli 2.0 on
> Wheezy. Actually it works pretty well, but there were some serious
> upgrade problems to 2.1 and 3.0, making targetcli go away for Jessie.
> See #764005 and #751226. I lost confidence in a newer version.
> 
> Now I have to install a new iscsi target (using Jessie, hopefully).
> Which iscsi solution would you recommend?

tgt works for me in Jessie. I would not call it that user-friendly, though.

Reco

Re: iscsi support in Jessie

[Harald Dunkel]

On 10/16/15 08:06, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Now I have to install a new iscsi target (using Jessie, hopefully).
> Which iscsi solution would you recommend?
> 

PS: Here is what I found so far:

* iSCSI Enterprise Target (http://sourceforge.net/projects/iscsitarget/files/)
looking at the dev mailing list it appears to be dead

* Linux-iSCSI Project
replaced by http://open-iscsi.org/ , afaict.

* open-iscsi.org
appears to be dead. 404 on the mailing list. Last stable
version is of May 2012

* targetcli
dropped from Jessie. Old version 2.1 is still in RHEL7.

* Generic SCSI Target Subsystem http://scst.sourceforge.net/
Looks promising, but there are only Debian packages provided
by upstream, and they are already 2 years old.

Did I miss something (other than FreeNAS)? What would you
recommend?


Regards
Harri

iscsi support in Jessie

[Harald Dunkel]

Hi folks,

Some years ago I have setup an iscsi target using targetcli 2.0 on
Wheezy. Actually it works pretty well, but there were some serious
upgrade problems to 2.1 and 3.0, making targetcli go away for Jessie.
See #764005 and #751226. I lost confidence in a newer version.

Now I have to install a new iscsi target (using Jessie, hopefully).
Which iscsi solution would you recommend?


Regards
Harri

Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server

[Fredrik Jonson]

Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>  Fredrik Jonson  writes:
> > What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian?
> 
>  Just run 'loginctl enable-linger [USER]' as root.

Initially that didn't work...

 root@host# loginctl enable-linger foouser
 Failed to create bus connection: No such file or directory

A quick google seems to indicate[0][1] that it is related to dbus somehow.
I checked, and the server didn't have dbus installed on the machine, so I
installed it (apt-get install dbus) and reran the command:

 root@host# loginctl enable-linger foouser

This time the command ran without any apparent objections from the system.

Next, I create my unit in $HOME/.config/systemd/user/foo.service but
systemctl fails to enable it:

 foouser@host$ systemctl --user enable foo.service
 Failed to get D-Bus connection: Connection refused

Now what?

I notice that there isn't a systemd or dbus instance running under the user.
Should there be, and if, what's responsible for starting it?

Additionally, when I try to start a user instance manually, it fails:

 foouser@host$ systemd --user
 Trying to run as user instance, but $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set.

[0] http://immae.eu/blog/2014/05/26/manage-your-session-with-systemd/
[1] https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2014-May.txt

-- 
Fredrik Jonson

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

[Joe]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:47:22 -0500
rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:

> On Thu, October 15, 2015 5:27 pm, Felix Miata wrote:
> > An internet router with wireless turned off and no connection to a
> > WAN nevertheless remains a functional switch. Thus "unconnected" it
> > should function no differently than the ethernet switch mentioned
> > in your OP.  
> 
> Perhaps I do not understand, but I (in my revised plan) I intend to
> connect the WAN port of the WRT110 to the ethernet port of the
> ISP-supplied radio (DHCP ip address 192.168.100.3) and to plug the
> computer and printer into the LAN ports of the WRT110.
> 
> My goal is to allow the computer to communicate on the one hand with
> the ISP, and, on the other hand, with the printer.
> 

Yes, that should work. I believe your initial difficulty was in setting
the IP address on your computer to one in the same network as the
original printer's address.

Probably the router can pick up the outside address by DHCP, but if
not, you know what it is.

-- 
Joe

Re: [RESOLU] Re: recherche conseil ou retour d'expérience sur parc info école primaire

[Nicolas Aldegheri]

Le 15/10/2015 22:14, Christophe DE NATALE a écrit :
Le 15 oct. 2015 à 20:48, Nicolas Aldegheri > a écrit :


Le 15/10/2015 11:48, Christophe DE NATALE a écrit :


@Nicolas Aldegheri : peux-tu stp m’indiquer quelle config matérielle 
du serveur LTSP vous avez utilisée // nombre de postes



Bonsoir,


Bonsoir et merci de ta réponse,


Alors comme je te l'avais dit, j'avais testé un serveur LTSP sous 
Debian Wheezy sur un simple PC de bureau d'une de mes salles de 
classe (HP Pro Desk 600, processeur i3, 500Go, 4 Go de RAM et 1 carte 
réseau 1 Gbs) pour piloter une quinzaine de clients lourds de la même 
salle de classe.
Cela fonctionnait bien : le serveur n'a en fait pas besoin d'une 
grosse configuration matérielle pour piloter des clients lourds, 
juste d'une bonne carte réseau 1 Gbs et d'un disque dur dont la 
capacité doit être choisi en fonction du nombre d'utilisateurs et de 
leur besoin en stockage.


Ok, donc mon projet d’acquisition d’un switch au Gb est justifié ainsi 
qu’un petit serveur bien « calibré » (je pense faire investir sur un 
« vrai » serveur d’occase + hdd neufs mais il faut aussi envisager la 
solution de backup)



Oui, c'est mieux d'avoir un switch avec au moins 1 port 1 Gbs. Mais ce 
n'est pas indispensable si tu veux juste faire un test : quand j'avais 
fait un test dans ma salle de classe, mon serveur LTSP (qui avait une 
carte 1Gbs) était branchée sur un port 100 MBs du switch ... ça m'avait 
surpris que ça marche aussi bien.






J'ai ensuite passé ce serveur LTSP sous Debian Jessie pour piloter 7 
clients légers raspi2 et pour proposer aux utilisateurs un mode de 
démarrage de secours pour l'ensemble de notre parc informatique (400 
PCs fonctionnant de façon "classique" sous Windows/Debian) : si un 
utilisateur rencontre un problème avec un des PC de notre parc 
(disque dur HS par exemple ou OS qui fait des siennes ...), il peut 
faire démarrer ce PC en client lourd. Tout utilisateur disposant d'un 
PC portable ayant un boot PXE peut également booter en client lourd 
sur le réseau pédagogique de notre lycée.


Donc difficile de dire combien un serveur LTSP avec une carte 1 Gbs 
peut piloter au maximum de clients lourds ... j'avais lu une 
cinquantaine sur Internet (mais je ne sais plus si le serveur LTSP 
avait plusieurs cartes 1Gbs configurées en agrégation de lien pour 
augmenter son débit ...)
Pour une vingtaine de clients LTSP, je dirai qu'une carte 1Gbs est 
suffisant.


J’aurai 8 clients pour le moment donc ok (mais je vais « calibrer » en 
fonction du futur proche :-)) surtout si un engouement pour Linux tend 
à se manifester subitement … (hé, oui, j’ai convaincu la directrice au 
téléphone cet après-midi ; bon, j’aurai pu dire win ou mac os, elle 
aurait dit oui pourvu que cela fonctionne car il y a urgence)



Oui, il faut tenir compte des utilisateurs ... ;-) Personnellement, j'ai 
aucun soucis avec mes élèves (aucun n'élève ne s'est plaint des postes 
sous Debian qu'ils utilisent). Par contre, en salle des professeurs, 
c'est le boycott quasi complet ;-)): je suis quasiment le seul à 
utiliser l'unique poste que j'ai installé sous Debian Wheezy Xfce. Je 
pensais que les collègues s’habitueraient au nouvel environnement mais 
je me suis trompé ... C'est pour ça que je pense que la "formation" des 
utilisateurs est un élément important.





[...]
Après, pour l'installation du serveur LTPS, il faut aussi voir la 
configuration du réseau de l'école primaire : qui joue le rôle du 
serveur DHCP dans ce réseau ?


Ben là c’est ma faute, lors de l’évaluation du parc j’ai bien constaté 
qu’on passait par un proxy mais je n’ai pas vérifié où il se trouvait 
physiquement ni la config des cartes réseaux (il y avait beaucoup de 
tri à faire dans le matériel et la journée a passée vite) donc je ne 
sais pas si ip fixe ou dhcp ; je vérifie ça demain.





Le serveur LTSP peut être configuré de deux façons différentes : avec 
une seule carte réseau ou avec deux cartes réseaux (les clients LTSP 
étant alors dans un sous-réseau du réseau pédagogique et le serveur 
LTSP jouant aussi le rôle de routeur pour que les clients LTSP 
puissent accéder à Internet).


Oui, je pensais ajouter une deuxième carte, pas pour l’aggrégation 
mais pour les deux réseaux distincts.



Si tu mets tes clients LTSP dans un sous-réseau, il faut en effet 
investir dans un switch et une 2de carte réseau. L'avantage de cette 
configuration, c'est que tu n'as pas trop à te soucier du réseau déjà 
existant (juste récupérer l'adresse IP de la passerelle, du serveur DNS 
et le masque du réseau) et le trafic LTSP ne viendra pas "perturber" 
celui du réseau déjà existant.
Par contre, le serveur LTSP devra être configuré en routeur NAT et en 
serveur DHCP pour le sous-réseau de clients LTSP.







Si la configuration réseau de l'école permet de configurer un serveur 
LTSP avec une seule carte réseau et faisant office de serveur DHCP, 
l'installation et le 

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Martin Smith]

On 16/10/2015 01:46, Joel Rees wrote:

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

[snip]

How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?

http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin=1
gave no relevant links.

A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.

I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome
3!!!;}.
I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.



I received two suggestions, neither suitable:
   1. nodm was recommended by the ??? who has publicly stated that he ignores
  how I phrase my questions.

NO, NO, NO!

Brian is just trying to tell you you are asking the wrong questions!

How much EASIER it would be if you would only give in to the
inevitable coming standardization on systemd.


   2. runt was also suggested. I chased down a series of links but didn't see
  how to apply it to my preferences.

Brian is right about one thing, the various DEs are not unified on
this particular point.  Whether we should accept his implicit
assertion that systemd will (ultimately) unify the DEs (and servers
and IoT devices) on all things technical, well, I won't touch that
today.


Prior to my post I had done a web search for "autologin". I did another with
[I assume] slightly different criteria. I suspect "DE independence" may not
be achievable.


Well, not exactly. Consider the differences between Android 4 and
Android 5 on this exact point.

One problem is that some kiosk mode techniques assume that you really
don't want to login at all, where others will require you to make a
choice of which user login to auto-login as.

(If you used Mac OS X, autologin is an option in the user management
control panel, or, at least, it was up until 10.4. It was a radio
button in the control panel where you changed passwords, etc. Required
authentication.


it still is an option in 10.11



Android, on the other hand, up until Android 5, made up an ephemeral
user, so-to-speak, but it wasn't really ephemeral, and it basically
put all control over logging in into the hands of the manufacturer
(and carrier).

It's a seemingly simple question with big implications in the marketplace.

I know Android 5 changed, but I haven't bought a device to look at it
yet. Money is tight here. Likewise, I'm unfamiliar with iOS and Mac OS
since 10.5, etc.)

Re: [OT] Monitorización procesos carga mas alta

[Maykel Franco]

El día 16 de octubre de 2015, 11:14, ZorroPlateado
 escribió:
>
>> El 14 oct 2015, a las 9:59, Maykel Franco  escribió:
>>
>> Buenas, recientemente he tenido alertas de ciertos servidores que de
>> repente han empezado a consumir demasiada CPU.
>>
>> Desgraciadamente no he podido conectarme en ese momento para ver qué
>> estaba pasando o qué proceso estaba consumiendo muchísima CPU.
>>
>> Mi pregunta es, hay alguna utilidad o se puede incorporar a nagios
>> para que monitorice qué procesos es lo que más cargan a la CPU?
>>
>> Estoy buscando algo pero todo lo que veo es para verlo en ese momento.
>>
>> Gracias de antemano.
>>
>
> Un simple disparador por email cuando un proceso supera un porcentaje
>  , puedes usar Monit , más simple imposible, y además hasta te ofrece un 
> interfaz web.

Umm me mola esa idea...

Gracias.

Retour d'expériences sur Intel Graphics HD 520 et Jessie

[jeanbaptiste.g...@gmail.com]

Bonjour à tous,

Je voulais savoir si des personnes sur la liste avaient des retours
d'expérience pour la carte Intel HD 520, c'est un chipset embarqué pour la
gamme Intel® Core™ i5-6200U Processor.

Voici quelques infos sur ce chipset :
http://ark.intel.com/products/88193/Intel-Core-i5-6200U-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-2_80-GHz

Pour ma part, l'id produit sur ma bécanne est bien : 8086:1916.
J'ai mis à jour sur un noyau backporté 4.2 :
Linux 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.2.1-2~bpo8+1 (2015-10-09) x86_64
GNU/Linux
ainsi que xserver-xorg-video-intel:

ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1
amd64   X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver

Et à présent grâce à celà, le mode suspend est bien géré, la résolution
écran bien reconnue.
J'ai mis un firmware issu d'intel (Skylake) qui est chargé par i915 :

[5.935102] [drm] Memory usable by graphics device = 4096M
[5.935106] [drm] Replacing VGA console driver
[5.942513] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013).
[5.942515] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
[5.948696] vgaarb: device changed decodes:
PCI::00:02.0,olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=io+mem:owns=io+mem
[5.959397] i915 :00:02.0: firmware: *direct-loading firmware
i915/skl_dmc_ver1.bin*
[5.965703] input: Video Bus as
/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input6
[5.965753] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20150522 for :00:02.0 on
minor 0
[5.966013] fbcon: inteldrmfb (fb0) is primary device

Bref ça fonctionne pas mal, sauf dans Xorg, l'accélération graphique
échoue, et est compensée sur la CPU :

[17.140] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
[17.140] (II) intel(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: i965
[17.140] (II) intel(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: i965
[17.140] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 enabled
[17.140] (II) intel(0): hardware support for Present enabled
[17.140] (--) RandR disabled
[17.176] (II) SELinux: Disabled on system
[17.323] (EE) AIGLX error: Calling driver entry point failed
[17.333] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[18.353] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized swrast
[18.353] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0

Alors en soit, ça ne me dérange qu'assez peu puisque je ne fais pas trop de
jeux, mais dans Cinnamon, les effets sont ralentis et largement compensés
sur la CPU...

Je me demandais si quelqu'un avait expérimenté aussi ceci, voir même résolu
ce problème ?

Merci bien et bonne journée à vous


Jean-Baptiste Gury

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

[Joe]

On 16/10/2015 09:13, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:

On Fri, October 16, 2015 2:30 am, Joe wrote:



Probably the router can pick up the outside address by DHCP, but if
not, you know what it is.


If the router cannot pick up the outside address, I am in trouble.  The
day I was there, the address corresponding to the radio link happened to
be 192.168.100.3, but tomorrow it could be 192.168.100.123 or anything
else.



If Windows can do it, so can a router with a DHCP client. My Linksys 
router is not currently used and is somewhere in my loft, and I can't 
recall the model number, but it certainly picked up the WAN address by 
DHCP. I still have a reservation in my DHCP server for it.


--
Joe

Re: claws-mail does not display menu-bar

[Alex Moonshine]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:18:58 -0700
 wrote:

> that's horrible UI design.  Menu bar goes away without a hint of how
> to get it back ?
> 

Ever tried pressing F10 in Firefox?:)

-- 
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.

Best wishes,
Alex S.

Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server

[Ansgar Burchardt]

Fredrik Jonson  writes:
> Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>>  Fredrik Jonson  writes:
>> > What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian?
>>  Just run 'loginctl enable-linger [USER]' as root.
>
> Initially that didn't work...
>
>  root@host# loginctl enable-linger foouser
>  Failed to create bus connection: No such file or directory
>
> A quick google seems to indicate[0][1] that it is related to dbus somehow.
> I checked, and the server didn't have dbus installed on the machine, so I
> installed it (apt-get install dbus) and reran the command:

Hmm, right. logind needs dbus to work.

>  root@host# loginctl enable-linger foouser
>
> This time the command ran without any apparent objections from the system.
>
> Next, I create my unit in $HOME/.config/systemd/user/foo.service but
> systemctl fails to enable it:
>
>  foouser@host$ systemctl --user enable foo.service
>  Failed to get D-Bus connection: Connection refused
>
> Now what?
>
> I notice that there isn't a systemd or dbus instance running under the user.
> Should there be, and if, what's responsible for starting it?
>
> Additionally, when I try to start a user instance manually, it fails:
>
>  foouser@host$ systemd --user
>  Trying to run as user instance, but $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set.

The documentation for "loginctl enable-linger" says "If enabled for a
specific user, a user manager is spawned for the user at boot and kept
around after logouts." I guess you didn't restart the system?

A user manager should in either case also be started when logging
in. This is handled by logind + libpam-systemd. I assume you might not
have the latter installed? (Note that using "su" to switch from root to
foouser does not count as a login.)

I don't think you can just start "systemd --user" as it wants to manage
cgroups for services it spawns. "/lib/systemd/system/user@.service" has
Delegate=yes to allow it to do so.

libpam-systemd is also responsible for setting the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
variable.

libpam-systemd is currently at Priority: optional. I'm wondering if it
should be raised to Priority: standard...

Ansgar

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 16 October 2015 09:51:47 Brian wrote:
> On Fri 16 Oct 2015 at 09:46:16 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Richard Owlett  
wrote:
> > > Richard Owlett wrote:
> > >> [snip]
> > >>
> > >> How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
> > >>
> > >> http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin=1
> > >> gave no relevant links.
> > >>
> > >> A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
> > >>
> > >> I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome
> > >> 3!!!;}.
> > >> I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
> > >
> > > I received two suggestions, neither suitable:
> > >   1. nodm was recommended by the ??? who has publicly stated that he
> > > ignores how I phrase my questions.
> >
> > NO, NO, NO!
> >
> > Brian is just trying to tell you you are asking the wrong questions!
> >
> > How much EASIER it would be if you would only give in to the
> > inevitable coming standardization on systemd.
> >
> > >   2. runt was also suggested. I chased down a series of links but
> > > didn't see how to apply it to my preferences.
> >
> > Brian is right about one thing, the various DEs are not unified on
> > this particular point.  Whether we should accept his implicit
> > assertion that systemd will (ultimately) unify the DEs (and servers
> > and IoT devices) on all things technical, well, I won't touch that
> > today.
>
> I cannot see where I asserted anything like that (by implication or
> otherwise).

Nor I.  I thought that the fact I remembered nothing like it was further 
evidence of my encroaching ?senility?

Lisi

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Brian]

On Fri 16 Oct 2015 at 09:46:16 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> > Richard Owlett wrote:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
> >>
> >> http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin=1
> >> gave no relevant links.
> >>
> >> A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
> >>
> >> I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome
> >> 3!!!;}.
> >> I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I received two suggestions, neither suitable:
> >   1. nodm was recommended by the ??? who has publicly stated that he ignores
> >  how I phrase my questions.
> 
> NO, NO, NO!
> 
> Brian is just trying to tell you you are asking the wrong questions!
> 
> How much EASIER it would be if you would only give in to the
> inevitable coming standardization on systemd.
> 
> >   2. runt was also suggested. I chased down a series of links but didn't see
> >  how to apply it to my preferences.
> 
> Brian is right about one thing, the various DEs are not unified on
> this particular point.  Whether we should accept his implicit
> assertion that systemd will (ultimately) unify the DEs (and servers
> and IoT devices) on all things technical, well, I won't touch that
> today.

I cannot see where I asserted anything like that (by implication or
otherwise).

Re: [OT] Monitorización procesos carga mas alta

[ZorroPlateado]

> El 14 oct 2015, a las 9:59, Maykel Franco  escribió:
> 
> Buenas, recientemente he tenido alertas de ciertos servidores que de
> repente han empezado a consumir demasiada CPU.
> 
> Desgraciadamente no he podido conectarme en ese momento para ver qué
> estaba pasando o qué proceso estaba consumiendo muchísima CPU.
> 
> Mi pregunta es, hay alguna utilidad o se puede incorporar a nagios
> para que monitorice qué procesos es lo que más cargan a la CPU?
> 
> Estoy buscando algo pero todo lo que veo es para verlo en ese momento.
> 
> Gracias de antemano.
> 

Un simple disparador por email cuando un proceso supera un porcentaje
 , puedes usar Monit , más simple imposible, y además hasta te ofrece un 
interfaz web.

Re: FW: xfsdump package not available in testing?

[Nemeth Gyorgy]

2015-10-16 08:04 keltezéssel, James Homuth írta:

> Poking around the Debian packages website, xfsdump should be available
> in Stretch per that page (link included below). However:
> # apt-get install xfsdump   
> Reading package lists...
> Done  
> Building dependency
> tree   
> Reading state information...
> Done  
> Package xfsdump is not available, but is referred to by another
> package.   
> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted,
> or  
> is only available from another
> source  
> However the following packages replace
> it: 
>  
> xfsprogs 
> 
>   
>  
> 
> E: Package 'xfsdump' has no installation
> candidate 
> I have xfsprogs installed, but it doesn't supply xfsdump/xfsrestore. The
> package that does, apparently, isn't available. AmI missing something
> obvious?
>  
> Package link: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/xfsdump

It should be in testing. Did you do apt-get update?

On my system (with sid and testing in sources.list):
apt-cache policy xfsdump
xfsdump:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.1.4
  Version table:
 3.1.4 0
500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64

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Re: No monitor in GNOME Control Center - Color

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2015-10-15 at 23:09 +0200, Pascal Obry wrote:
> In the color management module I don't have any monitor listed since
> some days. I have some printers thought.
> 
> My display ICC is still loaded when I logged on GNOME Shell, but I
> cannot access it nor change it.
> 
> Note that I'm using GNU/Debian sid, so GNOME Shell 3.18.
> 
> Am I the only one?
> 
> Any idea about the issue?

You're not the only one. My eyes also bleed from lack of color
management ;)

My hunch is the recent changes to the X server, but I'm not sure, as a
lot of other components have changed too.

I asked for any insights on the debian-gtk-gnome mailing list, but no
replies so far.

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Kungliga Bibliotekets SOU-hack Tis 20/10 10-17

[OpenLifeChallenge]

Hallå!

Kungliga Biblioteket (KB) arrangerar nu på tisdag 20/10 mellan 10-17 något som 
kallas SOU-hack.

Alla 5600 Statliga Offentliga Utredningar från 1922-1999 har KB nu 
digitaliserat. Ni som kan är alla välkomna att komma och hacka på dem under 
några timmar!

Med hjälp av programmering & hackande kan deltagande forskare enklare analysera 
mängden av data i alla dessa utredningar.

Läs mer anmäl dig här om du kan komma: 
http://www.kb.se/aktuellt/evenemang/2015/SOUhack/
Annars mejla karl.isaks...@kb.se helst senast idag om det inte går via länken.

KB har tagit beslut om att endast köra FOSS i sina system, alla resultat är 
välkomna att bli fri & öppen källkod!

/OpenLifeChallenge

Re: claws-mail does not display menu-bar

[moonshine]

On 16-10-2015 12:13, Alex Moonshine wrote:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:18:58 -0700
 wrote:


that's horrible UI design.  Menu bar goes away without a hint of how
to get it back ?



Ever tried pressing F10 in Firefox?:)


Actually, scratch that, sorry. It only appears the menu bar if it's 
turned off, not disappears it if it's on.

Still, not an uncommon behaviour, I just didn't get the right example

Re: iscsi support in Jessie

[Harald Dunkel]

Hi Reco,

On 10/16/15 08:17, Reco wrote:
> 
> tgt works for me in Jessie. I would not call it that user-friendly, though.
> 

Not bad. I have missed this one.

Searching for tgt I stumbled over istgt.
 (http://shell.peach.ne.jp/aoyama/archives/3122).


Thanx very much
Harri

Extract substring from cat

[Alfred Charles Stockton]

If I issue the command cat /etc/*-release on my Debian system I get:-

PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="8"
VERSION="8 (jessie)"
ID=debian
HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/;
SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/;
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/;

Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian
GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash.

Please tell me how I should go about this?

--
Regards,
Alf Stockton

Re: ¿Problemas con extensión Openweather de Gnome?

[Camaleón]

El Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:13:06 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

> El 15/10/15 a las 15:36, Camaleón escribió:
>> El Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:28:02 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:

(...)

>>> me pasó lo mismo, en extensions.gnome.org, en la parte de esa
>>> extensión vi que había que registrarse en openwheatermaps (o algo así,
>>> tengo mi computadora medio renga y no tengo el link exacto a mano), de
>>> donde sacás una llave que cargás en la configuración del clima y ya lo
>>> ves de nuevo
>>
>> Ugh¹ :-(
>>
>> Registrarse para saber el tiempo me parece un requisito ridículo (!),
>> esos datos deben ser públicos y de acceso anónimo.
>>
>> ¹https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/750/openweather/
>>
>>
> Pienso como tu. Extensión deshabilitada y punto. Que esperen sentados mi
> registro...

Tiene que haber más extensiones con esa funcionalidad ¿no? De hecho era 
de uno de los applets más usados en GNOME 2 y no había que hacer 
malabares para que funcionara más allá de decirle la ubicación.

De todas formas, si el registro en una página de terceros es un requisito 
de obligado cumplimiento para que funcione la extensión, no debería estar 
en los repositorios "main" de Debian sino en "contrib" o "non-free".

En cualquier caso, el instalador debería advertir ese hecho.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Extract substring from cat

[tomas]

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On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:54:25PM +0200, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote:
> 2015-10-16 14:15 keltezéssel, Alfred Charles Stockton írta:
> > 
> > If I issue the command cat /etc/*-release on my Debian system I get:-
> > 
> > PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)"
> > NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
> > VERSION_ID="8"
> > VERSION="8 (jessie)"
> > ID=debian
> > HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/;
> > SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/;
> > BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/;
> > 
> > Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian
> > GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash.
> > 
> > Please tell me how I should go about this?
> > 
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Alf Stockton
> > 
> > 
> > 
> cat /etc/*-release | grep ^PRETTY_NAME | sed 's/^.*=//'

Many insightful answers have been given. Yours is an example of "useless
use of cat" [1], better spelt as

  grep ^PRETTY_NAME /etc/*-release | sed 's/^.*=//'

Even better, since sed can do grep:

  sed -ne '/^PRETTY_NAME=/ s/^.*=// p' < /etc/*-release

[1] 

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Serviço MySql não sobe

[Christian Rosa]

Bom dia pessoal, alguém poderia me ajudar a identificar o possivel erro e
como contornar. Não estou conseguindo subir o serviço do mysql, segue o
erro.

"

Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon.
Starting MySQL:[FAILED]

"

-- 
Cordialmente,

   _Christian Rosa -
  °v°   Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL
 /(_)\  (51) 92281059
  ^ ^   MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com
 Linkedin - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-rosa/3a/59b/543

Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !

“Se eu tivesse oito horas para derrubar uma árvore, eu passaria as
primeiras seis delas afiando meu machado.” - Abraham Lincoln

Re: Extract substring from cat

[Nemeth Gyorgy]

2015-10-16 14:15 keltezéssel, Alfred Charles Stockton írta:
> 
> If I issue the command cat /etc/*-release on my Debian system I get:-
> 
> PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)"
> NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
> VERSION_ID="8"
> VERSION="8 (jessie)"
> ID=debian
> HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/;
> SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/;
> BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/;
> 
> Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian
> GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash.
> 
> Please tell me how I should go about this?
> 
> --
> Regards,
> Alf Stockton
> 
> 
> 
cat /etc/*-release | grep ^PRETTY_NAME | sed 's/^.*=//'

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Re: Extract substring from cat

[Santiago Vila]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:15:46PM +0200, Alfred Charles Stockton wrote:
> Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian
> GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash.

The standard says /etc/os-release is shell-compatible, so I would do this:

. /etc/os-release
echo ${PRETTY_NAME}

Re: Extract substring from cat

[Darac Marjal]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:15:46PM +0200, Alfred Charles Stockton wrote:
> 
> If I issue the command cat /etc/*-release on my Debian system I get:-
> 
> PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)"
> NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
> VERSION_ID="8"
> VERSION="8 (jessie)"
> ID=debian
> HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/;
> SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/;
> BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/;
> 
> Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian
> GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash.
> 
> Please tell me how I should go about this?

The EASY way? "( source /etc/*-release; echo $PRETTY_NAME )".

'source' executes the commands in the file(s) which, in this case, are 
simple variable assignments. 'echo' prints the contents of one of those 
variables. Finally "( ... ; ... )" executes the two commands one after 
the other in a subshell. When the subshell exits (after the echo 
command), the variables will be forgotten.

> 
> --
> Regards,
> Alf Stockton
> 
> 

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Re: problemas con nouveau en testing

[Camaleón]

El Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:25:27 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:

> salió al privado por error :-/ estúpidos webmail

El webmail es diabólico para usarlo en listas de correo, yo dejé de 
usarlo porque va contra el sentido común, vamos, que el webmail hace todo 
al revés.

> El día 15 de octubre de 2015, 10:49, Camaleón 
> escribió:

(...)

>>> ¿según yo estaba con nouveau? ¿porqué rayos se fue a vesa?
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> Espera... el módulo se llama "nouveau" no "nv", ese es otro, anterior y
>> sin soporte para aceleración 3D. Puedes probar a forzar su carga
>> creando un archivo de configuración mínimo en "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" con
>> este contenido:
>>
>> Section "Device"
>>   Identifier "nouveau"
>>   Driver "nouveau"
>> EndSection
>>
>>> ¿por donde podría empezar a buscar?
>>
>> Pues por ver si te dice la verdad:
>>
>> locate nv.ko 
>> locate nouveau.ko
>>
>>
> tengo nouveau.ko (en
> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1-amd64/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko),
> no tengo nv.

Entonces dice la verdad :-)

El nv no te interesa, es un "vesa" mejorado sin soporte para aceleración 
3D.

> Me tocará revisar porque no lo carga, o que no le gusta

El motivo lo tendrás en el registro, sube el "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" 
completo a www.pastebin.com para que podamos echarle un vistazo.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: problemas con nouveau en testing

[Camaleón]

El Fri, 16 Oct 2015 07:50:54 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:

>> tengo nouveau.ko (en
>> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1-amd64/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko),
>> no tengo nv.
> 
> Creo que ese último es para el controlador propietario.

¿"Lo cuálo"?

No, nv es el primer driver libre que hubo para nvidia, pero con soporte 
muy básico 2D y usando las especificaciones de nvidia, las pocas que la 
empresa facilitaba a los desarrolladores. 

Luego vino nouveau que añadió la aceleración gráfica a costa de realizar 
ingeniería inversa sobre el driver propietario de nvidia.

Luego si hay un driver libre para tarjetas nvidia ese es "nv".

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Extract substring from cat

[John L. Cunningham]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:15:46PM +0200, Alfred Charles Stockton wrote:
> 
> If I issue the command cat /etc/*-release on my Debian system I get:-
> 
> PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)"
> NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
> VERSION_ID="8"
> VERSION="8 (jessie)"
> ID=debian
> HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/;
> SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/;
> BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/;
> 
> Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian
> GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash.
> 
> Please tell me how I should go about this?

$ gawk -F= '/^PRETTY/{ print $2 }' /etc/*-release

Re: Serviço MySql não sobe

[Leandro de Lima Camargo]

Adiciona a linha innodb_force_recovery = 1 no arquivo /etc/my.cnf abaixo de 
[mysqld] e depois reinicia.
Se der certo, remove a linha e reinicia de novo pra confirmar.
Se der algum erro, posta os logs de novo.


Depois que reparei que respondi a mensagem só pra você.
Vamos continuar conversando pela lista porque alguém pode precisar dessa 
informação futuramente!



Atenciosamente
Leandro de Lima Camargo
(035) 9904-0220
skype: leandrolimacamargo

> Em 16 de out de 2015, à(s) 11:19, Christian Rosa  
> escreveu:
> 
> Vou postar o Log, me parece que corrompeu. Esse é o log  do /var/log/mysql
> 
> 
> InnoDB: Page lsn 359 3459081781, low 4 bytes of lsn at page end 3459016656
> InnoDB: Page number (if stored to page already) 81921,
> InnoDB: space id (if created with >= MySQL-4.1.1 and stored already) 0
> InnoDB: Database page corruption on disk or a failed
> InnoDB: file read of page 81921.
> InnoDB: You may have to recover from a backup.
> InnoDB: It is also possible that your operating
> InnoDB: system has corrupted its own file cache
> InnoDB: and rebooting your computer removes the
> InnoDB: error.
> InnoDB: If the corrupt page is an index page
> InnoDB: you can also try to fix the corruption
> InnoDB: by dumping, dropping, and reimporting
> InnoDB: the corrupt table. You can use CHECK
> InnoDB: TABLE to scan your table for corruption.
> InnoDB: See also InnoDB: 
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/forcing-recovery.html 
> 
> InnoDB: about forcing recovery.
> InnoDB: Ending processing because of a corrupt database page.
> 151016 12:10:28  mysqld ended
> 
> 
> Em 16 de outubro de 2015 11:16, Leandro de Lima Camargo 
> > escreveu:
> Cristian,
> Veja o que aparece no log ($LOGDIR/mysql.err).
> 
> 
> 
> Atenciosamente
> Leandro de Lima Camargo
> (035) 9904-0220
> skype: leandrolimacamargo
> 
>> Em 16 de out de 2015, à(s) 11:02, Christian Rosa > > escreveu:
>> 
>> Bom dia pessoal, alguém poderia me ajudar a identificar o possivel erro e 
>> como contornar. Não estou conseguindo subir o serviço do mysql, segue o erro.
>> 
>> "
>> Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon.
>> Starting MySQL:[FAILED]
>> "
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cordialmente,
>> 
>>_Christian Rosa - 
>>   °v°   Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL
>>  /(_)\  (51) 92281059
>>   ^ ^   MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com 
>> 
>>  Linkedin - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-rosa/3a/59b/543 
>>  
>> Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !
>> 
>> “Se eu tivesse oito horas para derrubar uma árvore, eu passaria as primeiras 
>> seis delas afiando meu machado.” - Abraham Lincoln
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cordialmente,
> 
>_Christian Rosa - 
>   °v°   Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL
>  /(_)\  (51) 92281059
>   ^ ^   MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com 
> 
>  Linkedin - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-rosa/3a/59b/543 
>  
> Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !
> 
> “Se eu tivesse oito horas para derrubar uma árvore, eu passaria as primeiras 
> seis delas afiando meu machado.” - Abraham Lincoln

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[David Wright]

Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com):
> On Friday 16 October 2015 01:46:16 Joel Rees wrote:
> > One problem is that some kiosk mode techniques assume that you really
> > don't want to login at all, where others will require you to make a
> > choice of which user login to auto-login as.
> 
> Surely, if you have to make a choice it is no longer *auto*login?

Were I to set up a machine at home to autologin, I would not want it
to login as me, nor root, nor anonymous. I would configure a user
called, say, "kiosk" and that would be my "choice of which user login
to auto-login as."

IOW no choice has to be made each time you actually power-up the machine.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Serviço MySql não sobe

[Christian Rosa]

Só uma pergunta, o que faz esse procedimento ? Desculpe-me pela indagação.

Abraço

Em 16 de outubro de 2015 11:34, Leandro de Lima Camargo <
leandrobach...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Cristian,
> Vou te mandar por aqui porque pela lista não chegou até agora..
> Mandei essa mensagem lá:
>
> Adiciona a linha *innodb_force_recovery = 1 *no arquivo /etc/my.cnf
> abaixo de [mysqld] e depois reinicia.
> Se der certo, remove a linha e reinicia de novo pra confirmar.
> Se der algum erro, posta os logs de novo.
>
>
>
> Atenciosamente
> *Leandro de Lima Camargo*
> (035) 9904-0220
> *skype: *leandrolimacamargo
>
> Em 16 de out de 2015, à(s) 11:19, Christian Rosa <
> christiant.i...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> Vou postar o Log, me parece que corrompeu. Esse é o log  do /var/log/mysql
>
>
> InnoDB: Page lsn 359 3459081781, low 4 bytes of lsn at page end 3459016656
> InnoDB: Page number (if stored to page already) 81921,
> InnoDB: space id (if created with >= MySQL-4.1.1 and stored already) 0
> InnoDB: Database page corruption on disk or a failed
> InnoDB: file read of page 81921.
> InnoDB: You may have to recover from a backup.
> InnoDB: It is also possible that your operating
> InnoDB: system has corrupted its own file cache
> InnoDB: and rebooting your computer removes the
> InnoDB: error.
> InnoDB: If the corrupt page is an index page
> InnoDB: you can also try to fix the corruption
> InnoDB: by dumping, dropping, and reimporting
> InnoDB: the corrupt table. You can use CHECK
> InnoDB: TABLE to scan your table for corruption.
> InnoDB: See also InnoDB:
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/forcing-recovery.html
> InnoDB: about forcing recovery.
> InnoDB: Ending processing because of a corrupt database page.
> 151016 12:10:28  mysqld ended
>
>
> Em 16 de outubro de 2015 11:16, Leandro de Lima Camargo <
> leandrobach...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Cristian,
>> Veja o que aparece no log ($LOGDIR/mysql.err).
>>
>>
>>
>> Atenciosamente
>> *Leandro de Lima Camargo*
>> (035) 9904-0220
>> *skype: *leandrolimacamargo
>>
>> Em 16 de out de 2015, à(s) 11:02, Christian Rosa <
>> christiant.i...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>> Bom dia pessoal, alguém poderia me ajudar a identificar o possivel erro e
>> como contornar. Não estou conseguindo subir o serviço do mysql, segue o
>> erro.
>>
>> "
>>
>> Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon.
>> Starting MySQL:[FAILED]
>>
>> "
>>
>> --
>> Cordialmente,
>>
>>_Christian Rosa -
>>   °v°   Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL
>>  /(_)\  (51) 92281059
>>   ^ ^   MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com
>>  Linkedin - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-rosa/3a/59b/543
>>
>> Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !
>>
>> “Se eu tivesse oito horas para derrubar uma árvore, eu passaria as
>> primeiras seis delas afiando meu machado.” - Abraham Lincoln
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialmente,
>
>_Christian Rosa -
>   °v°   Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL
>  /(_)\  (51) 92281059
>   ^ ^   MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com
>  Linkedin - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-rosa/3a/59b/543
>
> Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !
>
> “Se eu tivesse oito horas para derrubar uma árvore, eu passaria as
> primeiras seis delas afiando meu machado.” - Abraham Lincoln
>
>
>


-- 
Cordialmente,

   _Christian Rosa -
  °v°   Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL
 /(_)\  (51) 92281059
  ^ ^   MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com
 Linkedin - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-rosa/3a/59b/543

Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !

“Se eu tivesse oito horas para derrubar uma árvore, eu passaria as
primeiras seis delas afiando meu machado.” - Abraham Lincoln

Re: No monitor in GNOME Control Center - Color

[Pascal Obry]

Hi Sven,

> You're not the only one. My eyes also bleed from lack of color
> management ;)

Good to hear I'm not the only one!

Cheers,

-- 
  Pascal Obry /  Magny Les Hameaux (78)

  The best way to travel is by means of imagination

  http://v2p.fr.eu.org
  http://www.obry.net

  gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

[David Wright]

Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net):
> On Fri, October 16, 2015 2:30 am, Joe wrote:
> > Yes, that should work. I believe your initial difficulty was in setting
> > the IP address on your computer to one in the same network as the original
> > printer's address.
> 
> That, and not understanding that the ip address reported by Windows was
> assigned by the DHCP server of the ISP.
> 
> > Probably the router can pick up the outside address by DHCP, but if
> > not, you know what it is.
> 
> If the router cannot pick up the outside address, I am in trouble.  The
> day I was there, the address corresponding to the radio link happened to
> be 192.168.100.3, but tomorrow it could be 192.168.100.123 or anything
> else.

One of the first configuration screens in the router will be the
WAN/Internet configuration where the router will need to know if you
have to login to the ISP (copy credentials from the Windows machine)
and how to get its IP address. Most people will get theirs dynamically
from the ISP. The fact that the address they issue is in a private
range doesn't make any difference to you if you're not running an
external service for the Internet.

On the LAN side of the router, it (the router) will run another
private network. If you run it on 192.168.100.xx then the fact that
it's the same range as the WAN is really no more than a coincidence.
They are separate private networks.

Personally, I would run 192.168.1.xx on the LAN because (a) I suspect
more than half the world does and (b) my router has no DNS server
built into it, so I have to maintain /etc/hosts on my machines. I
like the numbers there to be instantly and instinctively recognisable
as host IP#s. One less thing to remember.

Cheers,
David.

Re: problem med fsck

[jan]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:39:46 +0200
Sven Arvidsson  wrote:

> On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 14:45 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote:
> > Ok Anders och Ludvig. Jag viker ner mig och ska försöka läsa på
> > lite.
> 
> Det är ganska smidigt, kika under /dev/disk/by-* så har du olika sätt
> att identifiera diskar. Du kan tex. ge dem namn, så jag har bla.
> /dev/disk/by-label/Backup för backupdisken. 
> 

Stort tack för alla goda råd.
Problemet är fixat, det handlade om UUID. Eftersom jag är lat av mig
tog jag bort UUID ur fstab. Det är trots allt bara en ThinkPad så det
kommer nog inte att ställa till några problem.

Re: Serviço MySql não sobe

[Leandro de Lima Camargo]

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html 



Atenciosamente
Leandro de Lima Camargo
(035) 9904-0220
skype: leandrolimacamargo

> Em 16 de out de 2015, à(s) 11:38, Christian Rosa  
> escreveu:
> 
> Só uma pergunta, o que faz esse procedimento ? Desculpe-me pela indagação.
> 
> Abraço
> 
> Em 16 de outubro de 2015 11:34, Leandro de Lima Camargo 
> > escreveu:
> Cristian,
> Vou te mandar por aqui porque pela lista não chegou até agora..
> Mandei essa mensagem lá:
> 
> Adiciona a linha innodb_force_recovery = 1 no arquivo /etc/my.cnf abaixo de 
> [mysqld] e depois reinicia.
> Se der certo, remove a linha e reinicia de novo pra confirmar.
> Se der algum erro, posta os logs de novo.
> 
> 
> 
> Atenciosamente
> Leandro de Lima Camargo
> (035) 9904-0220
> skype: leandrolimacamargo
> 
>> Em 16 de out de 2015, à(s) 11:19, Christian Rosa > > escreveu:
>> 
>> Vou postar o Log, me parece que corrompeu. Esse é o log  do /var/log/mysql
>> 
>> 
>> InnoDB: Page lsn 359 3459081781, low 4 bytes of lsn at page end 3459016656
>> InnoDB: Page number (if stored to page already) 81921,
>> InnoDB: space id (if created with >= MySQL-4.1.1 and stored already) 0
>> InnoDB: Database page corruption on disk or a failed
>> InnoDB: file read of page 81921.
>> InnoDB: You may have to recover from a backup.
>> InnoDB: It is also possible that your operating
>> InnoDB: system has corrupted its own file cache
>> InnoDB: and rebooting your computer removes the
>> InnoDB: error.
>> InnoDB: If the corrupt page is an index page
>> InnoDB: you can also try to fix the corruption
>> InnoDB: by dumping, dropping, and reimporting
>> InnoDB: the corrupt table. You can use CHECK
>> InnoDB: TABLE to scan your table for corruption.
>> InnoDB: See also InnoDB: 
>> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/forcing-recovery.html 
>> 
>> InnoDB: about forcing recovery.
>> InnoDB: Ending processing because of a corrupt database page.
>> 151016 12:10:28  mysqld ended
>> 
>> 
>> Em 16 de outubro de 2015 11:16, Leandro de Lima Camargo 
>> > escreveu:
>> Cristian,
>> Veja o que aparece no log ($LOGDIR/mysql.err).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Atenciosamente
>> Leandro de Lima Camargo
>> (035) 9904-0220
>> skype: leandrolimacamargo
>> 
>>> Em 16 de out de 2015, à(s) 11:02, Christian Rosa >> > escreveu:
>>> 
>>> Bom dia pessoal, alguém poderia me ajudar a identificar o possivel erro e 
>>> como contornar. Não estou conseguindo subir o serviço do mysql, segue o 
>>> erro.
>>> 
>>> "
>>> Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon.
>>> Starting MySQL:[FAILED]
>>> "
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cordialmente,
>>> 
>>>_Christian Rosa - 
>>>   °v°   Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL
>>>  /(_)\  (51) 92281059
>>>   ^ ^   MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com 
>>> 
>>>  Linkedin - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-rosa/3a/59b/543 
>>>  
>>> Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !
>>> 
>>> “Se eu tivesse oito horas para derrubar uma árvore, eu passaria as 
>>> primeiras seis delas afiando meu machado.” - Abraham Lincoln
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cordialmente,
>> 
>>_Christian Rosa - 
>>   °v°   Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL
>>  /(_)\  (51) 92281059
>>   ^ ^   MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com 
>> 
>>  Linkedin - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-rosa/3a/59b/543 
>>  
>> Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !
>> 
>> “Se eu tivesse oito horas para derrubar uma árvore, eu passaria as primeiras 
>> seis delas afiando meu machado.” - Abraham Lincoln
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cordialmente,
> 
>_Christian Rosa - 
>   °v°   Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL
>  /(_)\  (51) 92281059
>   ^ ^   MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com 
> 
>  Linkedin - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-rosa/3a/59b/543 
>  
> Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !
> 
> “Se eu tivesse oito horas para derrubar uma árvore, eu passaria as primeiras 
> seis delas afiando meu machado.” - Abraham Lincoln

Re: Extract substring from cat

[Jonathan]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:15:46 +0200
"Alfred Charles Stockton"  wrote:

> Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian
> GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash.
> 
> Please tell me how I should go about this?

lsb_release -ds
from lsb-release package.

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[tom arnall]

what prevents Debian from providing an alternate boot option in Jessie
which does not use systemd? My Wheezy system seems to do this.

On 10/7/15, tom arnall  wrote:
> I want to setup a system so that when the power button is pushed on
> the PC, the system connects to the internet and starts a browser
> without a login or any other intervention by the user.
>
> There are no security issues.
>
> Is this doable?
>


-- 
Once its survival is on the line, a species will often find powers
unimaginable in the days of its complacency.

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

[tom arnall]

what prevents Debian from providing an alternate boot option in Jessie
which does not use systemd? My Wheezy system seems to do this.

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Glenn English]

> On 10/7/15, tom arnall  wrote:
>> I want to setup a system so that when the power button is pushed on
>> the PC, the system connects to the internet and starts a browser
>> without a login or any other intervention by the user.
>> 
>> There are no security issues.
>> 
>> Is this doable?

Sure, no problem. Just put a little script in init.d -- oh, wait a minute...

-- 
Glenn English

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 16 October 2015 22:34:22 ray wrote:
> I am guessing that since the USB is not mounted, DD does not require any
> type of prep.  

It would destroy any prep you had done. ;-)

Now the netinstall with firmware might work!!

Lisi

Re: câble non branché au démarrage mais dhclient s'exécute

[Alexandre Hoïde]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:38:45PM +0200, Prego Jérémy wrote:
> bonjour,
  'Lo,
> je suis sous debian jessie noyau 4.2.0. Lorsque je démarre mon ordinateur
> sans câble branché sur eth0 j'ai  dhclient qui cherche un dhcp en permanence
> ce qui me pose un petit problème.
> 
> je précise que je n'ai pas de gestionnaire de connection graphique
> 
> un ethtool eth0 me donne bien: Link detected: no
> 
> et mon fichier /etc/network/interfaces concernant eth0
> 
> allow-hotplug eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> 
> donc je pense que tout es bon mais pas pour lui visiblement ...

  Peut-être devrais-tu installer le paquet « ifplugd » :

« ifplugd is a daemon which will automatically configure your ethernet
device when a cable is plugged in and automatically de-configure it if
the cable is pulled out. This is useful on laptops with onboard network
adapters, since it will only configure the interface when a cable is
really connected »
  
  (J'ai la flemme de traduire)

  Sinon, essayer de bidouiller la valeur de 'timeout' dans
/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf ? (pas sûr que ça suffise).

> merci,
  Je t'en prie

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Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[David Wright]

Quoting Richard Owlett (rowl...@cloud85.net):
> David Wright wrote:
> >Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com):
> >>On Friday 16 October 2015 01:46:16 Joel Rees wrote:
> >>>One problem is that some kiosk mode techniques assume that you really
> >>>don't want to login at all, where others will require you to make a
> >>>choice of which user login to auto-login as.
> >>
> >>Surely, if you have to make a choice it is no longer *auto*login?
> >
> >Were I to set up a machine at home to autologin, I would not want it
> >to login as me, nor root, nor anonymous. I would configure a user
> >called, say, "kiosk" and that would be my "choice of which user login
> >to auto-login as."
> >
> >IOW no choice has to be made each time you actually power-up the machine.
> 
> How
>   Squeeze with Gnome2?
>   Jessie with Mate?
> 
> The user name would be myexperiments. It would have minimal set of
> privileges.

I don't know. I don't really understand your original question. It
said "How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?"
Now when people ask questions like that, I puzzle over the meaning
of DE. To me, DE says Desktop Environment. I don't run a DE. I run X
with a window manager, fvwm. And does "DE independent" mean "works
regardless of which DE you use", or "works without a DE"?

Now if you mean to start X, then I thought that was what nodm was for.
"This package prepares the system to automatically start an X session
at system boot."

If you mean to just have a VC autologin VC, then I think that is what
this page is all about:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=169483
Obviously this is only a jessie solution, if solution it is, because
it uses systemd. (Well, it might work on wheezy if one had taken the
systemd option.)

Can't remember much about squeezy.

I'm not the best person to ask; my comment was only to try to clarify
the word "choice".

Cheers,
David.

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

[dean]

On 10/17/15 07:49, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> I would like to find something like a smartphone discussion list for the
> technically-oriented -- not for the "Isn't Siri marvelous?" crowd.  I am
> interested in liabilities regarding security and privacy, rather than in
> features.
> 
> I spend much time on the highway, and Internet access (to view a map, to
> search for a telephone number, and even now and then GoogleEarth) would be
> valuable.
> 
> So I need to see what is available by way of a smartphone, or perhaps a
> tablet computer.  Is there anything small which can run Debian?
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
What kind of smart phone?

If its android there are apps that can run debian in a chroot eg lildebi
and if you want the most from your phone I recommend installing
cyanogenmod - that gives you a lot more control over your phone.

If your talking about apple, your options are very limited...

Dean

Re: No aparece el icono de iceweasel 41.0.2 en la barra lateral izquierda de Gnome (Favoritos)

[Juan Lavieri]

Hola Eduardo.



El 16 de octubre de 2015, 13:04, Eduardo Rios  escribió:

> Al actualizar Iceweasel (rama experimental)


​Una pequeña aclaratoria:  Experimental no es una rama,  Aquí explican lo
que es:

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental

y tomado de lo que allí dice, te cito:

*You have been warned*
Unlike the Debian Releases  unstable
 and testing
, experimental isn't a complete
distribution. Experimental is a staging/collaboration/experimental area for
development, when it is known that a package has problems or may have
problems. Some packages/developers don't use experimental, they just put
the new versions in unstable. The migration of packages from experimental
to unstable is entirely at discretion of the packagers. Even if there are a
lot less consistency requirements for packages in experimental, they are
autobuilt on the best effort basis by official Debian Package Auto-Building
infrastructure .

​Por consiguiente no te extrañe que esas cosas sucedan.​




> en Debian Stretch, de la versión 41.0.1 a la versión 41.0.2, no aparece
> correctamente el icono de la comadreja en la barra lateral de aplicaciones
> rápidas, o favoritas o como se llame esa barra.
>
> Sin embargo, si pulsamos el botón de 9 cuadradillos, si aparece el icono
> junto a todas las demás aplicaciones.
>
> Quitarla de favoritos y volverla a añadir no soluciona el problema.
>
> Aviso a navegantes :-)
>

​Asumimos que estas hablando de gnome-shell ¿cierto?​

¿Estás haciendo el cambio porque quieres la úlima versión?

¿No te sirve instalar directamante el firefox desde la página oficial de
mozilla?  Te comento que varios aquí lo usan y no tenemos problema alguno
con actualizaciones ni cosas por el estilo.

Es una sugerencia.




>
> --
> www.LinuxCounter.net
>
> Registered user #369215
>
>
>

​Saludos.​


-- 

Juan Lavieri

Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

[David Wright]

Quoting tom arnall (kloro2...@gmail.com):
> what prevents Debian from providing an alternate boot option in Jessie
> which does not use systemd? My Wheezy system seems to do this.

(Yes, this is the correct thread for this question.)

Wheezy had systemd included as a "technology preview".
I don't think Debian does technology retrospectives.

Cheers,
David.

RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

[ssigel2001]

Olá,
Fiz o download de 9 cds da instalação do debian 7.9.0 
(http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/7.9.0/i386/iso-cd/)
Como fazer para a instalação iniciar via boot ?
Ao colocar o cd 1 não inicia a instalação ao dar o boot !
Descompactei os *.iso e gravei em cds, alguma coisa eu deveria fazer diferente ?
Grato e no aguardo,
Sergio


-Mensagem original-
De: ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br [mailto:ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br] 
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 7 de outubro de 2015 15:57
Para: 'Linux - Junior Polegato'; debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Assunto: RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

Super legal Junior,
Então tá ! a versao do php eu vou instalar a que é exata e ai vamos ver se dá 
certo
Abraços e muito obrigado a todos



-Mensagem original-
De: Linux - Junior Polegato [mailto:li...@juniorpolegato.com.br]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 7 de outubro de 2015 14:59
Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Assunto: Re: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

Em 07-10-2015 14:48, ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br escreveu:
> Obrigado pelo alerta Leandro,
> A única informação que tenho do servidor é essa:
> Linux pleskl0005.hospedagemdesites.ws 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
> 3.2.65-1+deb7u2.1 x86_64 Minha maquina é 32 bits.
> Vou usar só pra rodar apache + mysql + php(e seus módulos) Acredito 
> que o básico já me atenda, não ?
> Grato e no aguardo

Olá!

 Nesse caso não precisa se preocupar em ser exatamente 
3.2.65-1+deb7u2.1, visto que sua máquina não é amd64.

 Pode usar o kernel da instalação do Wheezy que vai funcionar 
igualmente.

 Outro ponto são as versões de cada aplicativo que vai ser usado se 
estão na mesma versão do seu servidor, acho que isso é mais importante que a 
versão do kernel mudar de 3.2.65 para 3.2.68.

-- 

[]'s

Junior Polegato

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 09 September 2015 14:56:54 Brian wrote:
> I've just did a completely new installation of flashplugin-nonfree on a
> machine which had never seen it. Your eternally turning white circle is
> what I get. My feeling is that this has something to do with protected
> video on 4od.
>
>  
> https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/flash-player-11-problems-playing.
>html
>
> Installing hal, hal-info, libhal1 and libhal1-storage cures it for me
> but you seem to have a more diverse set of issues.
>
> For some reason which I cannot remember I got the debs from a Ubuntu
> PPA. Maybe the Wheezy ones didn't work for me.

I just did a new installation of Wheezy, installed just HAL, and installed 
flashplugin-nonfree.  4oD is working.  Whether usably remains to be seen, 
because it is running on a rather old and slow machine.

This week I am going to try this (install Wheezy, install HAL, install 
flashplugin-nonfree) on my TV machine, and will again report back.  Provided 
that I can find a no-rugby day.  I can't put the machine out of action on a 
rugby day.

Lisi

RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

[ssigel2001]

Gravei o cd 1 em ISO e tentei dar o boot e néca..

Aff...algo bobo deve estar faltando

Usei o programa CDBUNNERXP para gravar o ISSO, via Windows...

Alguma ideia ?

 

 

 

De: Alexandre [mailto:alexandremartinscu...@yahoo.com.br] 
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 16 de outubro de 2015 23:04
Para: ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br
Assunto: Re: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

 

Boa noite;

Amigo precisa apenas do DVD1.

Abraços

Em 16/10/2015 22:54, ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br   
escreveu:

Aff

È vèr

Entao perdi 9 cds

K

Tá bom….

Fazer o que….

Vou gravar de novo tudo diretamente como iso.e ver no q dá !

Vlw



 

 

De: Linux - Junior Polegato [mailto:li...@juniorpolegato.com.br] 
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 16 de outubro de 2015 22:40
Para: ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br  
Cc: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
 
Assunto: Re: RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

 

Olá!

Provavelmente somente o 1° DVD te atenderia, mas descompactar um ISO e gravar 
os arquivos não é uma boa, você deve gravar o ISO completo diretamente, senão 
perde a informação dos primeiros setores, que é o boot, então grave o ISO 
diretamente com um programa de gravação de ISO, não gravar o arquivo ISO e nem 
seus arquivos um a um.

--
[]'s

Junior Polegato

Em 16/10/2015 21:13,  
> escreveu:

Olá,
Fiz o download de 9 cds da instalação do debian 7.9.0 
(http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/7.9.0/i386/iso-cd/)
Como fazer para a instalação iniciar via boot ?
Ao colocar o cd 1 não inicia a instalação ao dar o boot !
Descompactei os *.iso e gravei em cds, alguma coisa eu deveria fazer diferente ?
Grato e no aguardo,
Sergio


-Mensagem original-
De: ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br   
[mailto:ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br  ]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 7 de outubro de 2015 15:57
Para: 'Linux - Junior Polegato'; debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
 
Assunto: RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

Super legal Junior,
Então tá ! a versao do php eu vou instalar a que é exata e ai vamos ver se dá 
certo
Abraços e muito obrigado a todos



-Mensagem original-
De: Linux - Junior Polegato [mailto:li...@juniorpolegato.com.br 
 ]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 7 de outubro de 2015 14:59
Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
 
Assunto: Re: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

Em 07-10-2015 14:48, ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br   
escreveu:
> Obrigado pelo alerta Leandro,
> A única informação que tenho do servidor é essa:
> Linux pleskl0005.hospedagemdesites.ws 
>   3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
> 3.2.65-1+deb7u2.1 x86_64 Minha maquina é 32 bits.
> Vou usar só pra rodar apache + mysql + php(e seus módulos) Acredito
> que o básico já me atenda, não ?
> Grato e no aguardo

Olá!

 Nesse caso não precisa se preocupar em ser exatamente 
3.2.65-1+deb7u2.1, visto que sua máquina não é amd64.

 Pode usar o kernel da instalação do Wheezy que vai funcionar 
igualmente.

 Outro ponto são as versões de cada aplicativo que vai ser usado se 
estão na mesma versão do seu servidor, acho que isso é mais importante que a 
versão do kernel mudar de 3.2.65 para 3.2.68.

--

[]'s

Junior Polegato

 

Re: claws-mail does not display menu-bar

[briand]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:06:23 +0300
moonsh...@openmailbox.org wrote:

> On 16-10-2015 12:13, Alex Moonshine wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:18:58 -0700
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> that's horrible UI design.  Menu bar goes away without a hint of how
> >> to get it back ?
> >> 
> > 
> > Ever tried pressing F10 in Firefox?:)
> 
> Actually, scratch that, sorry. It only appears the menu bar if it's 
> turned off, not disappears it if it's on.
> Still, not an uncommon behaviour, I just didn't get the right example
> 

well then it's not uncommon bad UI design.

and i say that even though I _love_ claws-mail.  Awesome program.

the fact that the menu goes away and there isn't some sort of "hint" as to how 
to get it back is really silly.

Brian

Re: Extract substring from cat

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 10/16/15, Jonathan  wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:15:46 +0200
> "Alfred Charles Stockton"  wrote:
>
>> Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian
>> GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash.
>>
>> Please tell me how I should go about this?
>
> lsb_release -ds
> from lsb-release package.


I've been partially playing along with this thread as it has evolved.
I received 2 slightly different outputs regarding this latest..

$ lsb_release -ds
$ Debian GNU/Linux unstable (sid)

and...

$ cat /etc/*-release
$ PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux stretch/sid"

Unstable is certainly Sid's first, middle, and last name, grin.
Stretch nicely defines where Sid is in a release cycle of the
moment. a nice little time stamp of sorts ish. :)

Cindy :)

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

Re: RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

[Linux - Junior Polegato]

Olá!

Provavelmente somente o 1° DVD te atenderia, mas descompactar um ISO e
gravar os arquivos não é uma boa, você deve gravar o ISO completo
diretamente, senão perde a informação dos primeiros setores, que é o boot,
então grave o ISO diretamente com um programa de gravação de ISO, não
gravar o arquivo ISO e nem seus arquivos um a um.

--
[]'s

Junior Polegato
Em 16/10/2015 21:13,  escreveu:

> Olá,
> Fiz o download de 9 cds da instalação do debian 7.9.0 (
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/7.9.0/i386/iso-cd/)
> Como fazer para a instalação iniciar via boot ?
> Ao colocar o cd 1 não inicia a instalação ao dar o boot !
> Descompactei os *.iso e gravei em cds, alguma coisa eu deveria fazer
> diferente ?
> Grato e no aguardo,
> Sergio
>
>
> -Mensagem original-
> De: ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br [mailto:ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br]
> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 7 de outubro de 2015 15:57
> Para: 'Linux - Junior Polegato'; debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
> Assunto: RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65
>
> Super legal Junior,
> Então tá ! a versao do php eu vou instalar a que é exata e ai vamos ver se
> dá certo
> Abraços e muito obrigado a todos
>
>
>
> -Mensagem original-
> De: Linux - Junior Polegato [mailto:li...@juniorpolegato.com.br]
> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 7 de outubro de 2015 14:59
> Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
> Assunto: Re: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65
>
> Em 07-10-2015 14:48, ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br escreveu:
> > Obrigado pelo alerta Leandro,
> > A única informação que tenho do servidor é essa:
> > Linux pleskl0005.hospedagemdesites.ws 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
> > 3.2.65-1+deb7u2.1 x86_64 Minha maquina é 32 bits.
> > Vou usar só pra rodar apache + mysql + php(e seus módulos) Acredito
> > que o básico já me atenda, não ?
> > Grato e no aguardo
>
> Olá!
>
>  Nesse caso não precisa se preocupar em ser exatamente
> 3.2.65-1+deb7u2.1, visto que sua máquina não é amd64.
>
>  Pode usar o kernel da instalação do Wheezy que vai funcionar
> igualmente.
>
>  Outro ponto são as versões de cada aplicativo que vai ser usado
> se estão na mesma versão do seu servidor, acho que isso é mais importante
> que a versão do kernel mudar de 3.2.65 para 3.2.68.
>
> --
>
> []'s
>
> Junior Polegato
>
>

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

[rlharris]

On Fri, October 16, 2015 8:02 pm, dean wrote:
> What kind of smart phone?

That is what I wish to learn.

If samsung televisions have a microphone, what surveillance should we
expect of a samsung smartphone which has both microphone and camera?
Instinctively, I distrust microsoft and apple.  Besides, with apple you
are paying also for a status symbol.  And is microsoft capable of writing
better software for a phone than it writes for a desktop?

I am looking for guidance as to which smartphones provide reasonable
privacy and security.  Of course, reliability and battery life are very
important.

An article I saw a week or so ago said that samsung has one of the best
antenna systems, because it is designed to direct radio-frequency energy
away from the head of the user.


> If its android there are apps that can run debian in a chroot
> eg lildebi and if you want the most from your phone I recommend
> installing cyanogenmod - that gives you a lot more control over
> your phone.

Modifying the operating systim is a realm with which I am not familiar,
and likely do not have sufficient time to explore.

What I thought might be a good alternative to a smart phone would be to
use my old flip-open phone for voice calls and get a cellular modem which
can interface with the ethernet port or usb port of a laptop or tablet. 
Then if I can find a computer which is much less bulky than the typical
laptop, I could run Debian on that for Internet access on the road.  But a
typical laptop is entirely too big to be used in a car.

Russ

Re: RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

[Rafael Kaminski]

Boa noite...

Eu uso o bom e velho nero express, a opcao de abrir imagem.

Desculpem a resposta referindo este programa, mas pelo SO q ele disse estar
usando e a melhor saida.

Outra coisa. Pelas instalacoes do debian q ja fiz, acho q so o primeiro cd
deve ser bootavel, os outros vc insere manualmente durante a instalação...

Espero nao estar errado...

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[ray]

This is very close.  Debian is installed via Live.  The network is not 
functioning.

History:

With the non-free iso - 
  Booting in CSM:
  Isolinux.bin missing or corrupt.
  No  bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key

  Booting in UEFI:
  No bootable device -- Please restart system

With the Live CD -
Booting in UEFI:
No bootable device -- Please restart system

Booting in CSM:
Booted OK.  Once it times out, can't log back on.  No root password.

Bootin in CSM (again):
Booted OK.  Selected 'Graphical install'
This went smooth.  When notified that wifi firmware was required, I loaded the 
USB with the iwlwifi.deb file.  THis progressed fine, it detected the network, 
used the password, downloaded additional files.  All the time, the display had 
font sizes that were legable and all the screen controls were visiable.  

After rebooting, font and icons were very small. Attempting to launch Iceweasel 
failed with "Problem Loading Page".  

So first, I would like to make the icons and font larger.
Then I would like to get the wifi back up and running.

Any suggestions?

And thanks for all the help!

RES: RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

[ssigel2001]

Aff

È vèr

Entao perdi 9 cds

K

Tá bom….

Fazer o que….

Vou gravar de novo tudo diretamente como iso.e ver no q dá !

Vlw



 

 

De: Linux - Junior Polegato [mailto:li...@juniorpolegato.com.br] 
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 16 de outubro de 2015 22:40
Para: ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br
Cc: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Assunto: Re: RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

 

Olá!

Provavelmente somente o 1° DVD te atenderia, mas descompactar um ISO e gravar 
os arquivos não é uma boa, você deve gravar o ISO completo diretamente, senão 
perde a informação dos primeiros setores, que é o boot, então grave o ISO 
diretamente com um programa de gravação de ISO, não gravar o arquivo ISO e nem 
seus arquivos um a um.

--
[]'s

Junior Polegato

Em 16/10/2015 21:13,  
> escreveu:

Olá,
Fiz o download de 9 cds da instalação do debian 7.9.0 
(http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/7.9.0/i386/iso-cd/)
Como fazer para a instalação iniciar via boot ?
Ao colocar o cd 1 não inicia a instalação ao dar o boot !
Descompactei os *.iso e gravei em cds, alguma coisa eu deveria fazer diferente ?
Grato e no aguardo,
Sergio


-Mensagem original-
De: ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br   
[mailto:ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br  ]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 7 de outubro de 2015 15:57
Para: 'Linux - Junior Polegato'; debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
 
Assunto: RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

Super legal Junior,
Então tá ! a versao do php eu vou instalar a que é exata e ai vamos ver se dá 
certo
Abraços e muito obrigado a todos



-Mensagem original-
De: Linux - Junior Polegato [mailto:li...@juniorpolegato.com.br 
 ]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 7 de outubro de 2015 14:59
Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
 
Assunto: Re: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

Em 07-10-2015 14:48, ssigel2...@yahoo.com.br   
escreveu:
> Obrigado pelo alerta Leandro,
> A única informação que tenho do servidor é essa:
> Linux pleskl0005.hospedagemdesites.ws 
>   3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
> 3.2.65-1+deb7u2.1 x86_64 Minha maquina é 32 bits.
> Vou usar só pra rodar apache + mysql + php(e seus módulos) Acredito
> que o básico já me atenda, não ?
> Grato e no aguardo

Olá!

 Nesse caso não precisa se preocupar em ser exatamente 
3.2.65-1+deb7u2.1, visto que sua máquina não é amd64.

 Pode usar o kernel da instalação do Wheezy que vai funcionar 
igualmente.

 Outro ponto são as versões de cada aplicativo que vai ser usado se 
estão na mesma versão do seu servidor, acho que isso é mais importante que a 
versão do kernel mudar de 3.2.65 para 3.2.68.

--

[]'s

Junior Polegato

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[moxalt]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:34:22 -0700 (PDT), ray  wrote:

> That sounds great, I will try that right now.
> 
> Can files be added to the USB?
> 
> I am guessing that since the USB is not mounted, DD does not require any type
> of prep.

You won't need to add any files to the image (though you could after writing
by mounting the disk and copying the files) if you use the non-free firmware
image here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso
or here if you're computer is 32-bit:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/firmware-8.2.0-i386-netinst.iso

Use one of those. Good luck.

Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server [SOLVED]

[Fredrik Jonson]

Michael Biebl wrote:

>  Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> 
> >  If in doubt, do install this package.
>
>   Did you maybe misread that as
>  "If in doubt, do *not* install this package".

Yes I did. I don't know how many times I've read that sentence, and clearly saw
a _not_ in there. Interesting.

-- 
Fredrik Jonson

Re: RES: Instalação versão DEBIAN 7 com o KERNEL 3.2.65

[Sergio Durigan Junior]

On Friday, October 16 2015, ssigel wrote:

> Gravei o cd 1 em ISO e tentei dar o boot e néca..

Como você gravou esse DVD?  Se você não der mais informações, fica
difícil ajudar.

Os programas de gravação oferecem uma opção específica pra você
selecionar uma imagem (ISO) que será gravada diretamente no DVD.  Isso é
o equivalente a fazer um "dd if=imagem.iso of=/dev/".  É essa opção
que você quer.  Você *não* deve gravar a imagem no DVD como um arquivo
normal, e *não* deve gravar os arquivos dentro da imagem como arquivos
normais.  Selecione a opção correta de gravação.

-- 
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Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

[Chris Bannister]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 08:38:29PM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> On Fri, October 16, 2015 8:02 pm, dean wrote:
> > What kind of smart phone?
> 
> That is what I wish to learn.
> 
> If samsung televisions have a microphone, what surveillance should we
> expect of a samsung smartphone which has both microphone and camera?

I'm not sure, but I have heard to keep the camera view unobstructed at
all times.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

Installing a Firefox syncserver on my Jessie desktop computer. Need help...

[Paul E Condon]

I run a fully updated plain-vanilla Jessie 8.2 with systemd.
I found the following web page which I want to try to use:
https://docs.services.mozilla.com/howtos/run-sync-1.5.html

The instructions are breif and seemingly very clear.
Installing the needed software was straightforward. The only
deviation that I made was to use Debian Jessie rather than Ubuntu, and
installing python-dev git-core and python-virtualenv from a Jessie
repository rather than Ubuntu.
'$ git clone ...' and
'$ cd syncserver' commands were accepted without complaint, the output
generated by 'make build' follows:
*begin
pec@big:~/syncserver$ make build
virtualenv --python=`which python2 python | head -n 1` --no-site-packages 
./local
Running virtualenv with interpreter /usr/bin/python2
New python executable in ./local/bin/python2
Also creating executable in ./local/bin/python
Installing setuptools, pip...done.
CFLAGS="-Wno-error -Wno-error=format-security" 
ARCHFLAGS=-Wno-error=unused-command-line-argument-hard-error-in-future 
./local/bin/pip install -r requirements.txt

Downloading/unpacking 
https://github.com/mozilla-services/mozservices/archive/e00e1b68130423ad98d0f6185655bde650443da8.zip
 (from -r requirements.txt (line 11))

Downloading e00e1b68130423ad98d0f6185655bde650443da8.zip (unknown size): 53kB 
downloaded
  Running setup.py (path:/tmp/pip-vRC1UJ-build/setup.py) egg_info for package 
from 
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Re: No monitor in GNOME Control Center - Color

[Pascal Obry]

Sven,

> You're not the only one. My eyes also bleed from lack of color
> management ;)

One more question, are you using the NVIDIA proprietary driver?

I really suspect an issue related to recent upgrade as I don't have
this issue on another machine not using the proprietary driver.

Thanks,

-- 
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  The best way to travel is by means of imagination

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Re: No monitor in GNOME Control Center - Color

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Fri, 2015-10-16 at 18:35 +0200, Pascal Obry wrote:
> Sven,
> 
> > You're not the only one. My eyes also bleed from lack of color
> > management ;)
> 
> One more question, are you using the NVIDIA proprietary driver?
> 
> I really suspect an issue related to recent upgrade as I don't have
> this issue on another machine not using the proprietary driver.

Hi,

(No need to cc me, I'm subscribed to the list)

No, this is on an Intel system.

As I mentioned on the gtk-gnome list, I get this error from gcm
-inspect:

failed to get XServer profile data: failed to get property
failed to get XServer protocol version: failed to get propert

My guess is some sort of permission problem resulting from the changes
to use logind.

You could try filing a bug against xserver-xorg, hopefully the X devs
knows if it's their problem or someone else's. 

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