Re: Sende sms fra kommandolinjen?
On 2017-12-02 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Morten Bo Johansen (2017-12-02 19:30:42) >> Måske ikke så Debian-specifikt, men et eller andet sted må man jo >> spørge, så ved nogen om det er muligt at sende en sms fra >> kommandolinjen? >> >> Jeg ville gerne styre min varmepumpe fra cron. > > Der er flere muligheder. > > apt install apt-xapian-index > axi-cache search sms Jeg vil kigge lidt på de muligheder du og Christian skitserede. Tak for svar. Vh Morten
Sende sms fra kommandolinjen?
Hej Måske ikke så Debian-specifikt, men et eller andet sted må man jo spørge, så ved nogen om det er muligt at sende en sms fra kommandolinjen? Jeg ville gerne styre min varmepumpe fra cron. Vh Morten
Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?
On 2017-09-02 Tom Browder wrote: > I would especially appreciate other ideas for programming editors for > novice programmers. Jed, http://www.jedsoft.org/jed/, is highly recommendable! Morten
Re: user agent headers and elinks?
On 2016-11-03 Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi all, > Here at shellworld we are using Ubuntu 16.04 with elinks compiled to > support java scripting. > I am working with the partner indigogo site generosity, > www.generosity.com > even in elinks the site does not allow one to log in or create an > account. > Now, just for kicks, I tried visiting the same site in lynx but with the > send user agent function turned off. > I do not know what lynx uses if you turn off the send user agent feature, > but such often gets me past problem places, and such was the case with > generosity.com > So, I am wondering about the elinks user agent. > The site may work better in general with elinks, if I can get it to work, > and since the user agent seemed to help, I wanted to try this possibility. > Thoughts? > Kare Hi, Elinks has an interactive configuration system accessible with F10. What you need here is this: F10 -> "Setup" -> "Options manager" -> "Protocols" (expand options list with the '+' key) -> "HTTP" -> "User-agent identification" and then push the "Edit" button. There you can craft your own user-agent header. Setting it to " " causes Elinks to send no user-agent header at all. HTH, Morten
Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)
On 2016-06-13 Nicolas George wrote: > As I already explained twice, a solution that requires a > different action when it is a mailing-list and when it is not > is not an acceptable solution. Why not? Don't you know when you are corresponding on a mailing list or not? You only need to switch between 'r' and 'L'. And if some person on a mailing list in rare cases specifically request a CC, then you also have to remember 'g'. That is not too hard to manage? > The solution I advocate does not have this issue. Your solution is completely hopeless. You want people to configure their MUAs to insert "Reply-To" headers on a per mailing list basis to avoid your CCs? Many (most?) MUAs can't even be configured this way. Morten
Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)
On 2016-06-13 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : >> I expect you to conform to the CoC and not continue to reply to me >> personally. > > Nobody can be expected to remember the personal preferences of each > mailing-list member, nor the subscription status of all contributors, and > more importantly nobody can be expected to always remember to remember (the > duplicate is intentional) the particular quirks of each mailing-list they > contribute each time they reply to a mail. Since you are using Mutt, all you need to do to be well behaved (i.e. not send personal CCs) is to hit 'L' when you reply, then you will only reply to the debian-user list. Debian mailing list headers include a "List-Post" header that Mutt autodetects. For other lists you can use the "lists" directive in .muttrc to achieve the same effect. Morten
Re: mutt, w3m and firefox
On 2016-06-08 Johann Spies wrote: > Until a few weeks ago, I could open firefox from mutt by 'v' and then > select the html-part of the email and press enter. > > Now firefox does not but w3m handles everything - which is not preferred > when some links are important. I use the following in ~/.mailcap: text/html; chromium %s; text/html; /usr/bin/elinks -force-html -dump %s; copiousoutput and in ~/.muttrc: bind attachview-mailcap alternative_order text/plain text/html unauto_view * auto_view text/html This ensures that when I open a multipart/alternative message, the text part will be shown instead of the html part. In pure html messages, they will be opened from the mailcap line with the copiousoutput directive in it, which must be the last of the text/html mailcap entries. When you hit 'v' to specifically choose an html part from the attachment menu, it will be opened in chromium instead. Morten
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
On 2014-12-17 Karen Lewellen wrote: I have a still in the package copy of wordperfect 5.1 for UNIX. I got this because wordperfect is my main word processor on my primary computer and I would welcome, if at all possible, to use it with Linux as well. Is there any reason why the program cannot be installed on a machine running Debian squeeze? If you could somehow get hold of a copy of WP 5.1 for Dos, I used that with good results under Dosemu -- many, many years ago. ;) Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnm93dno.9u0@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: INTEL HD Graphics
On 2014-11-11 Man_Without_Clue wrote: Really? Wheezy? HD4600? No kernel upgrade or anything? No, you need Jessie. In Wheezy the Vesa fallback is used. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnm63p1a.711@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: INTEL HD Graphics
On 2014-11-11 Lisi Reisz wrote: On 11 November 2014 10:25, Morten Bo Johansen m...@spamcop.net wrote: On 2014-11-11 Man_Without_Clue wrote: Really? Wheezy? HD4600? No kernel upgrade or anything? No, you need Jessie. In Wheezy the Vesa fallback is used. Intel in general works fine in Wheezy. Support for HD 4600 was introduced in kernel 3.9. Wheezy uses kernel 3.2, so you need Jessie which uses 3.16. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnm64cvh.js2@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: INTEL HD Graphics
On 2014-11-11 Lisi Reisz wrote: Intel runs fine on Wheezy, though you do need a kernel upgrade in the form of a backported kernel for some (though not all) Intel drivers. Of course, but if you are using backported packages, you are not really running Wheezy anymore. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnm64htp.mh0@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: Sigil
On 2014-08-23 Steve Litt wrote: If any of you writes ePubs, you're probably familiar with Sigil, at least for partial conversions and touchups. But if you haven't used Sigil for awhile, you might not be aware that it's really grown up in the past two years, to the point where it's a reasonable ePub authoring environment. I would also point you to asciidoc. Not that I have tried it, but from the description and examples, it looks promising: http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/publishing-ebooks-with-asciidoc.html Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlvj7bj.5qq@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: A question about Aptitude interactive mode
On 2014-03-07 Paul E Condon wrote: There is, new to me, a new feature in Aptitude. Some time in the past within the past 18 months, I lost the ability to adjust the colors on the text display. Now all I get is a white letters on a black background. I get this in both gnome-terminal and in Xfce terminal. Both terminal emulators are configured to display black letters on white back. In both, when I type the command, aptitude, the screen flips, apparently as part of aptitude initialization. Where is this behavior configured? I want to change it. Insert the following block in the configuration file: aptitude::UI::Styles ; aptitude::UI::Styles::Default ; aptitude::UI::Styles::Default::fg black; aptitude::UI::Styles::Default::bg white; There is an extensive paragraph on custumizing the colors in the aptitude user's manual, available from the Help menu. Regards, Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnli0aa8.6ht@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: software for (reminder) recommendation
On 2013-11-13 lina wrote: I checked most, seems none has pop up action before the events. I use the following little script that I borrowed from somewhere: It uses gmessage (you can change to xmessage) and at, and will pop up the message that you typed in originally. If you call the script reminder, then make it executable: chmod +x reminder and put it in your path. You can test it by calling the script and type in a little message. Finish your message with a dot . by itself on the last line and then hit enter, i.e. Here is the message I would like to remind me of some event . Then you are prompted to enter the time that you would like to get the reminder. Type e.g. now + 1 minute. The message will pop up in 1 minute. There are some examples of specifying times in the script. man atq gives you more. Morten - #!/bin/sh mkdir -p $HOME/tmp/atd echo Enter your reminder message. When finished, enter a period (.) at the beginning of a line and press enter. (Or press Ctrl-C or DEL to exit.) while : do read MESSAGE if [ $MESSAGE = . ] then break else echo $MESSAGE $HOME/tmp/atd/message.$$ fi done cat !! Enter time and day you want to receive the message, for example: 0815 jan 24 08:15 tomorrow now + 1 day now + 15 minutes 1700 Friday Then press Enter. !! read TIME at $TIME !! /usr/bin/gmessage -center -display :0.0 -file $HOME/tmp/atd/message.$$ !! at -l exit 0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl87m6q.pv8@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: aptitude misconfigure?
On 2013-10-26 Glenn English wrote: There are several Debian machines around, and some of them do an odd thing in Aptitude: lqk xReally quit Aptitude?x x [ Yes ][ No ] x mqj You should look at your $TERM variable. From the command prompt issue an echo $TERM on each of your boxes, note what it returns and where it works and where not. Also distinguish between X Window and console environments. Many xterm-like terminal descriptions will result in garbled line drawing on the console. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl6o35s.rdf@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: apt-get vs. aptitude
On 2013-10-13 Dmitrii Kashin wrote: I think that aptitude works quite well for the easiest cases. And it is the only instrument I know which allow to see dependency chains. It was dselect some time ago which could do it too as I know, but now it seems to be dead. BTW, it provides with good capabilities for searching through packages. Remember that aptitude has evolved quite a bit. The scenarios that you and some others describe are not necessarily pertinent anymore. When you use phrases like fond memories, please state how old these memories are ;). Any package manager, needless to say, is wholly dependent on the metadata in the packages, so if these are not sensible, they may come up with rash solutions. The great thing about aptitude (to me) is that it is so easy to leaf through broken packages, using the 'b' key in the curses interface, and then examine what the matter is with each package. Most often, I find that I can solve dependency problems by simply not upgrading one or more packages. You do that easily by typing 'v' on a broken package and then typing '+' on the already installed version. If using the resolver instead, the solution presented is often to remove the package or some other package. For instance, at the moment the package xul-ext-greasemonkey is marked as upgradable on my system, but the package's metadata has Iceweasel in a non-installable version as a dependency. Aptitude wants to remove xul-ext-greasemonkey and apt-get wants to remove Iceweasel. None of these solutions may be what you want, so simply keeping xul-ext-greasemonkey in the already installed version is an alternative that the command line solutions in the two package managers do not present the user. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl5kt6h.7l0@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: apt-get vs. aptitude
On 2013-10-13 Ralf Mardorf wrote: apt-mark hold package or echo package hold | dpkg --set-selections or Synaptic's lock option Sure. But the gist of the discussion to me was the point of view of the naive user, i.e. how the two package managers behave out of the box. No compelling arguments have been provided that one is better than the other in that respect. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl5l4u1.a83@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: apt-get vs. aptitude
On 2013-10-08 Florian Lindner wrote: What is the prefered tool for installing on the CLI? apt-get or aptitude? Last time I read about it, it was aptitude, due to better dependency checking. What is the current state? apt-get or aptitude? Does it matter? What about using both? Both use libapt-pkg, so when used from the command line I don't think it matters which you use. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl5809k.bvq@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: keyboard configuration doesn't works after SID upgrade
On 2013-07-15 Csanyi Pal wrote: I can give some informations more. On the console ( not on X Window System ) when I start Midnight Commander ( mc ) I can hear right after mc start a beep, which I never heared before. Moreover, when I use arrow keys in mc, I heare every time a beep, which I never heared before. When I run emacs-nox in an xterm window ( on X Window System ) I can't use the Arrow Keys anymore. When I Try to use eg. the Left key, I get message: M-[ d is undefined, Right key, I get message: M-[ c is undefined, Up key, I get message: M-[ a is undefined, Down key, I get message: M-[ b is undefined. Does this tell to you something about this problem? No ideas directly, but since Squeeze the keyboard configuration for both X Window and console is handled by the keyboard-configuration package. You could try to reinstall that package: sudo apt-get install --reinstall keyboard-configuration and then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration A reboot smells like Windoze, but if the kernel has anything to do with loading character maps, then maybe a reboot wouldn't harm. Just try it and see it gives you something. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnku7dcl.7o1@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: keyboard configuration doesn't works after SID upgrade
On 2013-07-15 Csanyi Pal wrote: I have problem only in the console ( that is not in X Window System ). There Midnight Commander ( mc )beeps every time when I use arrow keys, and I heare beep when start mc too. If mc on the console is the only problem remaining, then try to use the Options - Learn Keys feature from the mc menu. There you can associate keys and keycodes. For instance if the right arrow key does not work, then click on its entry in the Learn Keys window, then when the message appears type the right arrow key and when the message vanishes, type it again, You should see an OK appear next to its entry, and then finally Save. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnku7q12.ncn@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: Using wget to fill in a form
cr...@gtek.biz cr...@gtek.biz wrote: I have a small book collection (~150) that I thought would be neat to catalog by the Library of Congress catalog numbers. I have found a LOC search form that will allow me to input the ISBN, and it will return the information I want: [..] I have the list of book ISBNs in a text file, so scripting this should be quite easy. The problem is I can't figure out how to submit the form from the command line. I figured wget would be the best way, but everything I try results in downloading a single line that reads Your form didn't include an ACTION! So I thought I would turn to here for help. The test ISBN I am using is for The Linux Cookbook: 1886411484, QA76.76.O63S788 2001. There are several urls on loc.gov that will retrieve book information from an ISBN. The one below has no problem with session cookies. So wouldn't this quick and dirty one-liner do what you want? #!/bin/sh # loc.sh ISBN elinks -dump -dump-charset utf8 -no-references -no-numbering \ http://www.loc.gov/cgi-bin/zclient?host=z3950.loc.govport=\ 7090attrset=BIB1rtype=USMARCDisplayRecordSyntax=HTMLESN=Fstartrec=\ 1maxrecords=10dbname=Voyagersrchtype=1,7,2,3,3,1,4,1,5,1,6,1term_term_1=\ $1 so loc.sh 1886411484 will output the information for the Linux Cookbook in a pure text format. And a related side question. From my reading, I've learned that the Z39.50 protocol is used to query databases, usually library related. Is anyone aware of an ISBN database table that can be downloaded by the user, preferably in a format that can be imported into MySQL or PostgreSQL? Probably, but I suppose the output is very standardized and then you can easily convert it to csv-format or something. Regards, Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnk6gbgu.7au@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: how can I use open-source (Xorg) radeon driver?
Matej Košík 5764c029b688c1c0d24a2e97cd7...@gmail.com wrote: There is a line: (EE) No devices detected. What does that mean? Given card is not supported by a given driver? As Camaleón wrote your card is not supported by the driver in Debian Squeeze. It is supported in the backported xserver-xorg-video-radeon driver, though. You can read about using backports here: http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ Regards, Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjpnu79.59s@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: No sound with new install
Nick White nick.wh...@durham.ac.uk wrote:
I installed Debian last week (for the first time), and things
generally went very nicely.
One thing which isn't yet working though is sound.
I did an installation of a Wheezy-system about a month ago and ran into
the same problem: No sound. I did not take notes as to how I got sound
working (I am rather impatient with these kind of problems), but to my
recollection, it ran along these lines:
At some point (not during the installation but later) I got an error
message informing me that the file:
/usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf
was obsolete (or something to that effect), I then renamed the file:
$ sudo mv /usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf /usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf.org
and thereafter I did:
$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
and actually I think that solved my problem at that point. You could try
renaming or deleting the above mentioned file and see if it does not help
you.
However, sometime later, sound once again stopped working (for whatever
reason I do not know). I then proceeded to delete all packages related to
pulseaudio, leaving me with only alsa sound packages.
I ran:
$ aplay -l
List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices
card 1: Aureon51MkII [Aureon5.1MkII], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
to find out what number my sound card had (it was number '1').
I then put these two lines into $HOME/.asoundrc:
defaults.pcm.card 1
defaults.ctl.card 1
(you should replace '1' with '0' in the above two lines)
and then
$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
and bingo, sound has worked for me ever since.
I do not know if it will solve your problem, as it seems you have other
issues, but try it and then run the speaker test mentioned elsewhere in
this thread.
Obviously your sound cards output channel must not be muted. You open it
up with a sound mixer, but I did note that you could not run that. Try
and google for the error message that you got in regard.
Regards,
Morten
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scsi device files not created when called for
Hi, My scanner suddenly stopped working. It is connected through firewire and when I turn it on, the firewire devices are created: ~/ % dmesg | tail -6 [ 8377.031246] firewire_core: phy config: card 0, new root=ffc1, gap_count=5 [ 8377.529022] scsi7 : SBP-2 IEEE-1394 [ 8377.529102] firewire_sbp2: fw1.0: 127s mgt_ORB_timeout limited to 40s [ 8377.529108] firewire_core: created device fw1: GUID 484ee815, S400 [ 8377.728590] firewire_sbp2: fw1.0: logged in to LUN (0 retries) [ 8377.729957] scsi 7:0:0:0: Processor EPSONGT-X900 1.06 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4 My Epson scanner is thus recognized. However, the scanner is also being attached to a scsi device, but the scsi device files are not being created automatically under /dev/ which means that xsane will not see it. When I ran: ~/ % sudo modprobe sg manually, the scsi device files are created as /dev/sg0 etc. and my scanner now works again with xsane. I could load the sg module from /etc/modules, but I do not think it should be necessary. I wonder if there is something wrong with my setup, since I need to manually load the scsi generic driver, or if this is a bug that I should report? In the latter case, which package should I report against? Some info: ~/ % uname -a Linux gatsby 3.2.0-1-686-pae #1 SMP Sun Feb 5 23:52:49 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux package udev is version 175-3 Thanks, Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjjcpv2.8b4@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: scsi device files not created when called for
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:06:40 +0100, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: In the latter case, which package should I report against? I'd say libsane. I think I'll go for udev. Once the scanner is attached to to a scsi device file, then the appropriate module should be loaded and the files created. Some info: ~/ % uname -a Linux gatsby 3.2.0-1-686-pae #1 SMP Sun Feb 5 23:52:49 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux package udev is version 175-3 You're on sid, right? It is a mixed testing/unstable system. Thanks for your attention. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjjd748.n9s@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: Nouveau
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: As Sven points out, there is no current support for 3D in Nuvó driver (there is, but is very experimental and probably highly unstable¹). Should you want to play with 3D programs/applications, just install nvidia driver. ¹ http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/GalliumHowto Nouveau/Gallium is worth a try at least. A lot of work is being done on these drivers and depending on the chip in his card, they could turn out to be a pleasant surprise. I am currently running them on an old FX5200 card and I can play bzflag at 1680x1050 with no problem, but e.g. Torcs is a little too much. However, more work is being done on the drivers for the newer cards than the driver for my old card, so you if you have one of those, you could be in luck even with more demanding games. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnibb3np.6be@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: Can't boot custom compiled 2.6.30 amd64 kernel
Andrew Perrin cli...@perrin.socsci.unc.edu wrote: Appreciate all the replies. However I have never used an initrd in the past (been building kernels since the 2.0.x series) and don't want to this time. sata and ext3 drivers are built into the kernel (not modules) so I don't think I should need one. Any thoughts as to why I apparently do, or how to continue not to need one? Did you enable the block layer in your kernel configuration? - CONFIG_BLOCK=y Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Digital signatur, udlevering af offentlig nøgle.
Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23-03-2005 20:42, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Da er det ikke blot et kartotek med folks personnumre, men den ekstra og ikke uvæsentlige detalje at de er jøder. Pointen er er *begge* dele er ulovlige. Du må hverken lave kartoteker over personnumre eller jøder. Jamen så vil jeg da opfordre dig til at gå ud og skaffe dig min straffeattest. Kan du ikke sende mig en kopi som jeg kan lægge på mit website? Mit eksempel var fra et indslag i DR og fuldstændig autentisk, og hvis du gerne vil udsætte dig selv for det så værs'go! Det har intet med mig at gøre. Har du onde hensigter er det nemt at skaffe nummeret uanset (fordi det aldrig har været hensigten at hemmeligholde det!). Så hvad jeg primært opnår ved at hemmeligholde nummeret er at hjælpe til at bevare illusionen om at nummeret er en hemmelighed. Det er jo noget vrøvl. Personnummeret er da en hemmelighed. Det står da ikke i nogen offentligt tilgængelige registre, og hvis det gør er det en fejl. Dermed er det lige så meget en hemmelighed som alle mulige andre oplysninger om dig som ikke er offentligt tilgængelige, f.eks. hvor meget du betaler i skat. At du så selv vælger at offentliggøre oplysninger, er jo noget helt andet. Det er oven i købet en ret dyb hemmelighed: du kan ikke skaffe dig oplysning om mit personnummer, medmindre nogen uretmæssigt og tilfældigt udleverer det til dig. Mit navn derimod kan du bare spørge naboen om. Dørhåndtag åbner også op til alskens ting - det gør dem ikke til hemmeligheder. Jeg synes netop analogien holder fordi du i et vist omfang kan kontrollere hvem der kender din alder og dit mellemnavn - men også kun i et vist omfang, for oplysningerne er ikke designede til at være hemmelige, så andre kan komme til at afsløre dem ved eksempelvis at skrive dem så de kan ses i ruden af en rudekuvert. Jeg gik engang i klasse med en som kaldte sig A.J. - tilfældigt så jeg en dag klasselærererns afkrydsningsskema at han hed Anker Jørgensen og jeg kan egentligt godt forstå hvordan han ikke havde lydt til at servere et oplagt mobbe-emne (uden at jeg i øvrigt har noget imod vores tidl. statsminister). Men jeg kan også forestille mig en del situationer hvor han ikke selv er herre over lanceringen af hans navn - f.eks. opråb i lægens venteværelse. Modsat navn og alder er der en vis konsensus i Danmark for _diskretion_ med CPR-numre. så måske en bedre analogi er hårfarve - altså om hun er ægte blond eller ej (selv hos lægen hives trusserne ikke af ude i venteværelset), eller om han går med toupé. I think you lost me there. Jeg kan ikke udnytte et mellemnavn på samme måde som jeg kan udnytte et personnummer, så jeg forstår slet ikke hvor du vil hen. Der er forskel på diskretion og hemmeligheder. Adgangskoder er strengt personlige, dvs. hemmelige. PIN-koder udstedes maskinelt, og du skal aldrig - heller ikke til sin bankrådgiver - udlevere det. CPR-numre håndteres med diskretion, men er ikke hemmelige. Dine selvmodsigelser er rørende. Kernen i diskretion er da hemmelighed - hvis det diskretionen omfatter er almen viden, er der jo intet grundlag for diskretion! Du bestemmer ikke om min postadresse er en fortrolig oplysning, det gør jeg. Der er faktisk en del mennesker der har adressebeskyttelse som kan opnås både i forhold til folkeregistret og postvæsenet (kvinder der søger skjul fra voldelige ægtemænd). Problemet i din argumentation er at du blander nogle formelle forvaltningsretlige betragtninger om tavshedspligt sammen med nogle mere almene betragtninger om hvilke oplysninger der er personfølsomme, og du synes at sætte lighedstegn mellem forvaltningslov og personfølsomhed. Sådan er virkeligheden dog ikke. Det du saksede væk var at man i mange situationer bare kan klare sagen med et CPR-nummer. Naturligvis kan du ikke få oplyst en adresse baseret på CPR-nummer hvis der udfor den oplysning står en note om at den oplysning må ikke udleveres. Du skrev at en postadresse ikke er en personlig oplysning, og som sagt bestemmer jeg om min postadresse er personlig. CPR-nummeret er et redskab til at identificere mig. Hvis politiet, kreditkort-udbydere eller andre fejlagtigt håndterer det som et redskab til at autentisere mig, så har jeg retten på min side ved misbrug. Men hvorfor udsætte sig selv for det? Det er det jeg ikke forstår. Jeg har ikke noget at skjule - så hvorfor ikke? Måske fordi verden ikke er som den burde være ..? Ahh - så måden at håndtere at verden er forkert er altså at krybe i et musehul?!? Dvs. du låser altså ikke din hoveddør, før du går i seng? Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP Failing - Unsupported Protocol
Kenneth Jacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] * Lost compression sync: disabling compression Jul 25 13:16:55 localhost pppd[4004]: \ sent [CCP TermReq id=0x5Lost compression sync] * Jul 25 13:16:55 localhost kernel: PPP: VJ decompression error Jul 25 13:16:56 localhost last message repeated 3 times * Jul 25 13:16:57 localhost pppd[4004]: rcvd [CCP TermAck id=0x5] ... ... ... I sure hope someone can help with *this* problem! If you disable compression altogether, would that help? In the file /etc/ppp/options or the file /etc/ppp/peers/isp, depending on your setup, insert the the line noccp (without the quotes). If it is just related to Van Jacobsen (VJ) compression/decompression, you can try to insert novj. HTH, Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Floppy-drev virker ikke under kerne 2.6.x
Hejsa, Jeg har et besynderligt problem med mit floppy-drev: når jeg forsøger at læse en diskette, svarer systemet: $ mdir a: floppy0: Floppy io-port 0x03f2 in use floppy0: Floppy io-port 0x03f2 in use floppy0: Floppy io-port 0x03f2 in use floppy0: Floppy io-port 0x03f2 in use Can't open /dev/fd0: No such device or address Cannot initialize 'A:' Jeg kan heller ikke aktivere floppy-modulet manuelt med modprobe. Det er kun under kerne 2.6.x - med 2.4.x har jeg ikke problemet. Det underlige er at jeg ikke kan se at ovennævnte adresse bruges af nogen andre ressourcer - cat /proc/ioports afslører ikke at denne adresse er i brug. Er der andre måder jeg kan tjekke hvad der evt. kunne lægge beslag på den adresse som floppy-drevet skal bruge? /dev/fd0 eksisterer selvfølgelig, og der er som sagt ingen problemer med at bruge drevet under kerne 2.4.x. Har googlet lidt, men blev ikke umiddelbart klogere. Morten
Re: Ingen danske tegn i tty1 virtuel terminal
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:17:57 +0100 Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: Further weirdness: [...] Mon det så ikke har noget med framebufferen at gøre? Prøv at slå den fra og se om det ikke løser det. I så fald er problemet i det mindste isoleret, så du har noget at arbejde videre med. Morten
Re: Ingen danske tegn i tty1 virtuel terminal
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:55:18 +0100 Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: I den virtuelle terminal på tty1 (ctrl-alt-f1), altså den terminal som min maskine booter i, har jeg ingen danske tegn. Dette virker fint i alle andre terminaler og i KDE. I /etc/console-tools/config har jeg linjen: SCREEN_FONT=lat1u-16 denne font indeholder de danske tegn. Måske det hjælper? Husk at køre /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh restart Morten
glibc-fejl (Was: Re: h)
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:07:46 +0100 Frederik Dannemare wrote: måske dette kan bruges i forbindelse med din qmail: quote fra http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=221855 Okay, så man bliver altså nødt til at ordne det i forhold til hvert enkelt program. Det bliver lidt tungt, for det er adskillige programmer der brokker sig her. Jeg havde håbet at man blot kunne undertrykke fejlmeddelelserne på en eller anden måde. Morten
Re: Java debian
On 09 Jan 2004 19:08:35 +0100 Niels L. Ellegaard wrote: Men når det er sagt, så er min java stadig ikke perfekt. Jeg kan ikke få den til at bruge Nordeas netbank. Her er en bugreport, fra dengang jeg brugte stable: Nu er jeg ikke kunde i Nordea, men jeg prøvede lige at starte deres netbank-applet på https://www.netbank.nordea.dk/netbank/index.jsp og det virkede godt - jeg får en fejlfri loginskærm, og jeg kan da ikke forestille mig andet end at det også vil virke i forsættelsen. Jeg bruger Mozilla 1.5-3 og Sun Java 2 Runtime Environment, Version 1.4.2 Beta, og tro det eller lad være, men det kører *godt* på en P133 med 80 mb ram ;) Morten
Re: adding an attatchment using the mail command?
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:01:27 - (GMT) Mark C wrote: I run a nightly cronjob to back up certain system files, for the life of me I cannot add them as an attatchment, when I mail to files to myself, they always got put into the message body. Reading the man pages gives no indication of how to do this, and I'm not sure if you can with the 'mail' command (I suppose sendmail would be the other alternative). You can't do it with 'mail'. You can use 'nail' instead which does attachments. If you already have mutt installed you can use that as well to send mail with attachments in batch mode. HTH, Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flush file contents
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 12:42:33 -0600 Rick Weinbender wrote: Is there a command to flush or empty the contents of a file? I would like the empty file to retain it's attributes and rights. $ file Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Putting URL view results in a txt file without copy and pasting
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:07:23 -0600 Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Earlier today I tried $urlview .gaim/logs/*.log url-view.txt It worked, but the output was a bit nasty. Is there a way to just get the url's from urlview into a txt file? Depending somewhat of the format of the logfile, then something like cat .gaim/logs/*.log | tr ' ' '\n' | grep http:|www\. urls.txt You may have to experiment a little with tr. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6, devfs, ingen xterm
On 07/09, Peter Makholm wrote: PM Jeg har ikke haft tid til at lege med udviklingskerner siden PM 2.5.67. Men er devfs ikke blevet erklæret OBSOLETE? Der var i hvert PM fald en patch på kernelisten. Dunno, bruger 2.4 PM Erstatningen hedder udev http://lwn.net/Articles/28897/ Fordele, kort fortalt? Er det stabilt? Tænker at migrere, så snart 2.6 færdigudgives, så er det rart at være forberedt. Morten -- Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result. (Winston Churchill)
Re: Ncurses?
On 06/09, Henrik Christian Grove wrote: HCG Tillad mig at citere lidt fra kernens README: HCG INSTALLING the kernel: [...] HCGDo NOT use the /usr/src/linux area! file://localhost/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/fhs.html/fhs-6.1.6.html Morten -- Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim. (George Santayana)
Re: Kompilering af 2.6 test2 kernen fra unstable
On 02/09, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: AEA Jeg kan ikke få skidtet til at virke. Har du installeret pakken module-init-tools? Den har afløst modutils for 2.6-kerner. 2.6 test2 er i øvrigt pakket som kernel-image-2.6.0-test2-1-386 Morten -- More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly. (Woody Allen)
Re: xfree modules
LeVA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: L There is a section named Modules in the XF86Config-4 file. Has L somebody a howto, or doc page where is some explanation about L the modules? For example dbe ddc vbe dri extmod L glx pex5 record xie xtrap speedo type1 GLcore L bitmap dbe ddc freetype int10 vbe etc I found this in /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xfree86.templates: (I suppose you will get it if you run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'). Description: Select the XFree86 server modules that should be loaded by default. It is possible to customize (or completely omit) the list of modules that the X server loads by default. This option is for advanced users. In most cases, all of these modules except xtt should be enabled. . The GLCore and glx modules enable software OpenGL rendering. The dri module enables support in the X server for Direct Rendering Infrastructure (DRI). Note that support for DRI must also exist in the kernel, the video card, and the installed version of the Mesa libraries for hardware-accelerated 3D operations using DRI to work. Otherwise, the server falls back to software rendering. . The vbe and ddc modules enable support for VESA BIOS Extensions and Data Display Channel, respectively. These modules are used to query monitor capabilties via the video card. The int10 module is a real-mode x86 emulator that is used to softboot secondary VGA cards. Note that the vbe module depends on the int10 module, so if wish to enable vbe, enable int10 as well. . The dbe module enables the double-buffering extension in the server, and is useful for animation and video operations. . The extmod module enables many traditional and commonly used extensions, such as shaped windows, shared memory, video mode switching, DGA, and Xv. The record module implements the RECORD extension, commonly used in server testing. . The bitmap, freetype, speedo, type1, and xtt modules are all font rasterizers. The freetype and xtt modules should not be enabled at the same time, as they are incompatible. The freetype module should be used for Western languages and anti-aliased font support; the xtt module should be used for East Asian character set support (specifically, for CID-keyed fonts). . For further information about these modules, please consult the XFree86 documentation. . If you unsure what to do, leave all of the modules enabled except xtt. Advanced users may wish to disable all modules -- in which case no Modules section will be written to the X server configuration file -- and add their own Modules section to the file manually. Morten -- All truths are half-truths. (Alfred North Whitehead) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mystiske præferencer
Henrik Christian Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] HCG Marillats testing-pakker skal komme før unstable-pakker), så nu søger HCG jeg en forklaring. HCG Her er hvordan tingene ser ud: HCG Package: * HCG Pin: origin marillat.free.fr HCG Pin: release a=testing HCG Priority: 400 Prøv at rette Priority til Pin-Priority ;-) I øvrigt bør du rette til: Package: * Pin: release a=testing, o=Christian Marillat Pin-Priority: 400 o= refererer til Origin-værdien i /var/lib/apt/lists/source_Release-filen I dit tilfælde ville alle testing-pakker få en pin på 400. [...] HCG 989 http://non-us.debian.org testing/non-US/main Packages HCG release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian,c=non-US/main HCG origin non-us.debian.org [...] HCG Nogen der kan forklare hvor prioriteterne for alt andet end: HCG - allerede installerede pakker HCG - mine egne pakker som ligger på www.sslug.dk HCG - Pakker bygget med apt-build HCG kommer fra? Eftersom du ikke har anført nogen priorities (skulle allesammen have været anført som Pin-Priority), tildeler apt nogle automatiske værdier med 989 som højeste startværdi, se apt_preferences(5). Morten -- Life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going. (Tennessee Williams)
Re: Mystiske præferencer
Henrik Christian Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HCG Hvordan finder den så på de andre værdier, og hvorfor får de HCG ikke bare prioritet 500 som mine egne pakker (som jeg godt HCG ved jeg ikke har en prioritet på)? Du har lavet en pin på stable, testing og unstable, men du har ingen pin-priority på dem. Apt vil derfor tildele værdien 989 til den første linje i preferences som er o=Debian,a=testing, og derefter tildeler den efterfølgende 988, 987..etc. til de øvrige varianter. Det står i apt_preferences, men jeg vil gerne medgive at det måske ikke er den mest tilgængelige manualside. Morten -- I don't like money actually, but it quiets my nerves. (Joe Louis)
Sending *.po files to the Debian BTS?
Hi, I am in the process of updating som Danish translations of the gettext message catalogs of some programs. According to http://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po/da one can download and translate these PO files, and submit them as bug reports to package maintainers. I am a little uncertain of the correct procedure: 1) do I set the severity level to normal? 2) do I set the patch tag? 3) should I include the PO file as a uuencode within the report or can I attach it? 4) anything else? -- Ginsburg's Law: At the precise moment you take off your shoe in a shoe store, your big toe will pop out of your sock to see what's going on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lynx, ncurses, gpm
Glyn Kennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GK I have found some ways that work, though. For all the GK following, I'm using my hacked gpm ncurses compiled after GK a ./configure --with-shared --with-gpm --with-develop the GK untouched lynx binary, with LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to find the GK new libraries GK versions that work: ncurses-5.2.tar.gz ncurses-5.3.tar.gz GK These are both from http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/ncurses/ The GK delay-till-keypress still occurs immediately after an fg, GK but once a key has been pressed, subsequent mouse presses GK are processed immediately. Also, with the original gpm, GK the exit-on-fg bug only happens in when the ^Z is issued GK immediately after a previous fg, with no key presses in GK between. GK versions that don't work: ncurses-5.2.20020112a-7 (obtained GK from apt-get source ncurses) ncurses-5.2.20020112a (without GK applying the debian a-7.diff.gz) GK These have the delay-till-keypress bug at all times. GK So it seems that something broke in the middle of the 5.2- GK releases, and was put right again for the 5.3 release. Is GK that a correct understanding? In case you did not change versions of gpm then possibly so. the ncurses FAQ makes mention of a problem with certain versions of gpm that has a bug in them that prevents libgpm from linking properly to ncurses. This could be tested by doing a 'nm libgpm.so' and see if wgetch is defined in it and not listed as an external. This is according to some old notes I have on this issue and thus the bug is supposedly with gpm and not ncurses. You can always file a bug with the Debian BTS. I believe that Thomas Dickey the ncurses upstream maintainer is reading the BTS. Regards, Morten -- Anyone can do any amount of work provided it isn't the work he is supposed to be doing at that moment. (Robert Benchley) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lynx, ncurses, gpm
Glyn Kennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GK Has anyone else managed to get ncurses' gpm support to work with lynx? That GK is, proper mouse support for lynx navigation, not just gpm copy-and-paste. GK I know that the default libncurses5 package doesn't come with gpm support, GK but even after recompiling it --with-gpm, lynx won't behave as I'd expect I think you may need to recompile Lynx against the new gpm-enabled version of ncurses as well and then put this in your lynx.cfg: USE_MOUSE:TRUE It's been a while since I came upon this issue and I'd like you to please report back if it works. Regards, Morten -- Either we live by accident and die by accident, or we live by plan and die by plan.(Thornton Wilder) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home and end keys (was Re: Make Debian better)
Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VL This is not sufficient: one needs a TERM value that defines color VL *and* bce (neither xterm, nor xterm-color does, because they are VL too generic). xterm-xfree86 does, no? Regards, Morten -- There are three ways to get something done. Do it yourself, hire someone to do it for you or forbid your kids to do it. (unknown) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sudo - unable to lookup host via gethostbyname()
Shawn Lamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SL Hi all - SL I changed my hostname from callerio to callerio.piscat.nj SL and now when i invoke sudo i get the followin message: SL slamson@callerio:~$ sudo -v sudo: unable to lookup SL callerio.piscat.nj via gethostbyname() Do you have callerio.piscat.nj in /etc/hosts? Regards, Morten -- A no smoking section in a resturant is like having a no peeing section in a swimming pool. (from /. posting) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alias for loopback interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
Edward Guldemond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EG On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 09:15:08PM +0200, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: Hi, If I wanted to create an alias for the loopback interface in /etc/network/interfaces corresponding to e.g. # ifconfig lo:0 192.168.1.1 then how should the entry look like? EG Why would you want to do this? Good question. I have tinydns and dnscache installed and they must use different IPs: dnscache uses 127.0.0.1 and then I want to make tinydns use another IP that is as alias for the loopback interface as I don't have any NIC installed. If you have any better suggestions please let me know. EG Happy to help, Happy to get it ;) Regards, Morten -- Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim. (George Santayana) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alias for loopback interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
Hi, If I wanted to create an alias for the loopback interface in /etc/network/interfaces corresponding to e.g. # ifconfig lo:0 192.168.1.1 then how should the entry look like? Regards, Morten -- Education is a method whereby one acquires a higher grade of prejudices. (Laurence J. Peter) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
Shri Shrikumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SS There is a newsgroup where this mailinglist is mirrored - check the SS archives (or someone else might mention it) news.gmane.org is a bi-directional news interface to tons of mailing lists, among them debian-user. I am using it right now ;) Regards, Morten -- To create man was a quaint and original idea, but to add the sheep was tautology. (Mark Twain) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fetching changelogs?
What is the current address for fetching packages' changelogs? I tried e.g. http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=aptitude but got The requested URL /cgi-bin/get-changelog was not found on this server Regards, Morten -- Education is a method whereby one acquires a higher grade of prejudices. (Laurence J. Peter) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libpng2 libpng3 = icon display problem in wmaker
Hi, I just upgraded to wmaker 0.80.0-4 and libpng3 was installed as a dependency. Now it seems that the png icons in my wmaker dock cannot be displayed anymore. It seems like a catch 22 to me: if I remove libpng3 wmaker complains and if I remove libpng2 then 21 other installed packages complain. Any fix for this problem short of downgrading wmaker? Thanks, Morten -- It usually takes me more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech. (Mark Twain) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde3
Klaus V. Slott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KVS Det er jo bare en timeout, nogen må da allerede have KVS fordansket det begreb bedre end jeg lige kan kan finde KVS på. Men ellers hvad så med noget i stil med: KVS Værtskomputeren svarede ikke indenfor rimelig tid I denne sammenhæng er frist efter min mening den rigtige oversættelse Værtskomputeren svarede ikke inden fristens udløb Hvorfor dog gøre det så svært for os selv ;) I øvrigt er denne måde at anvende timeout og time out vist noget nyt. I min store Webster kan førstnævnte kun betyde en pause (tænk på en timeout i basketball) og sidstnævnte udsagnsform eksisterer slet ikke. Morten -- So little time, so little to do. (Oscar Levant) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to *not* restore screen after viewing man pages in X
Bill Benedetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BB Does anyone *KNOW* if all X uses ~/.Xdefaults ?? Is there BB somewhere else that Matijs should be trying to put his resources? Just a suggestion for the latter part.../etc/X11/app-defaults. Regards, Morten -- Chance is always powerful. Let your hook be always cast. In the pool where you least expect it, will be a fish. (Ovid) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CPAN and apt-get
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered if there is a perferred way to handle aquiring perl modules? The CPAN interface shell that gets installed with perl provides a nifty way to search, download, install most of what is on CPAN and can be enhanced with WAIT (a WAIS based search interface) All this is pretty easy to use and takes care of some of the work of finding and applying perl modules and packages. Seems like this would interfere to some extent with apt-get concepts of how to do things. Whats the normal way to handle this? The recommended way, I think, is to use dh-make-perl. It can both download packages from cpan and build them as .debs that fit into the debian system. Regards, Morten -- You can imagine my embarrassment when I killed the wrong guy.
Re: mutt procmail NEWBIE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been attempting to get my Mutt going but it's giving me a hard time I've included .procmailrc .muttrc .forward .fetchmailrc . If there's more, please let me know [...] However able to get the mail delivered where I want to, Mutt complains that the destination box (spoolfile) is not a mail box. I don't have a clue as to where I must look. This was snipped from your .muttrc set mbox_type = Maildir but you procmail recipes below don't deliver to this sort of mailbox. maildir is a special format of mailbox where each message is stored in separate files under the directories new, current and tmp. however you're delivering to the standard mbox-type mailbox where all messages are stored in a single file. Therefore you can do one of two: either change the variable above to set mbox_type = mbox or append a slash to the delivery destiantion of your procmail recipes so that they read e.g. :0: * ^To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] $MAILDIR/marlies/ ^ Note the final slash. This will make procmail deliver to maildir mailboxes This requires procmail 3.15 The documentation of procmail/mutt requires expert-insight; no easy looks like this examples (well it does, but it don't work for me). Also the mutt and procmail webpages for Newbies gave me an impression of what is possible, impressive by the way, but I could not get a configuration out of it. Having two mailaddresses I would like them to arrive in seperate mailboxes. I've tried to work with the build-in 'fetch-the-mail' option. For one pop-account it works great, but I was not able to get the two of them working (only the latter in the muttrcfile). As to account-hook; I have not got a clue on how to go about that. As with folder-hook. .forward #Found the second option on internet... ## #'| /usr/bin/procmail' | /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #mail You don't need a .forward file if your MTA (sendmail, exim etc.) is enabled for using procmail as the local delivery agent (LDA) and I believe every MTA that come packaged in Debian is. .muttrc # Looks okee don't it? mailboxes /home/snotty/Mail/drafts mailboxes /home/snotty/Mail/sentbox You don't need to specify the entire path of the mailboxes like this, Just say mailboxes +drafts + sentbox etc. # I was hoping to get the below working. That way I do not have to invoke fetchmail #account-hook . 'unset pop_user; unset pop_pass' #account-hook pop://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (the [EMAIL PROTECTED] is mandatory for retreving mail) #account-hook pop://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't use the POP3 support in Mutt but the manual includes some documentation on it where some of the priciples also apply to IMAP, try to read it. F1 should give you access to the manual. Regards, Morten -- A no smoking section in a resturant is like having a no peeing section in a swimming pool. (from /. posting)
terminfo question
Hi, What is the terminfo denotation for the control-key? I have looked at terminfo(5) and I see all sorts of keys listed with corresponding denotations but nowhere do I see the control-key listed. I want to change the setting in the xterm-xfree86 terminfo entry with infocmp so that key sequences like e.g. ctrl-h work as intended with programs running in rxvt. Hope someone can help. Regards, Morten -- Room service? Send up a larger room. (Groucho Marx)
Re: Less and .gz files
Raffaele Sandrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RS On my earlier SuSE system less was able to read gzipped text files. Can i RS get less to do it also on Debian? I have included LESSOPEN=| /usr/bin/lesspipe %s in my /etc/enviroment This enables less to view the contents of a number of file formats including .bz2 .deb and others. This is enabled by default in SuSE, and I don't know if there is a reason why it is not in Debian. Regards, Morten -- Either we live by accident and die by accident, or we live by plan and die by plan.(Thornton Wilder)
Re: maximum nuber of messages in mutt?
Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BN More powerful mail readers (/me ducks) cache messages much more BN efficiently than mutt. BN Emacs gnus, for example, only fetches/displays unread messages unless BN you tell it otherwise, which makes it far faster to open and read BN folders. You can also tell mutt to only list unread messages. I am unsure whether it makes any difference in the speed of opening the folders, though -- I don't have any mailboxes around large enough to test with. Regards, Morten -- In film you will find four basic story lines. Man versus man, man versus nature, nature versus nature, and dog versus vampire.
.debs of IBM Java runtime environment?
Does anyone know of any unofficial .debs of the IBM Java runtime environment? Regards, Morten
Installing from local mirror (apt-move)
Hi, I have created a local mirror with apt-move, I have placed a line like this in sources.list: deb file:/mirrors/debian/ local main contrib non-free non-us As you can see, with my sparkling imagination I gave the local mirror a release name of local. I ran apt-get update and all seems fine except that I cannot seem to install any packages from the local mirror. Let's say that I wanted to install getmail, I first see that this package is available in the local mirror: $ apt-cache policy getmail getmail: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2.1.3-2 Version Table: 2.1.9-2 0 500 file: local/main Packages ^ 500 http://ftp.debian.nl unstable/main Packages 2.1.3-2 0 900 http://ftp.debian.nl testing/main Packages and then: $ sudo apt-get install getmail/local Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Release 'local' for 'getmail' was not found But release 'local' is acknowledged as per above..(?) I have tried to give 'local' a pin priority of '990' in the preferences file but that in turn is not acknowledged - it keeps being stuck at '500'. If I really need to use the official release names such as stable, testing and unstable how will I distinguish between my local mirror and remote mirrors - so that I can use the local mirror selectively to install packages from? Any good advice appreciated. Regards, Morten -- Either we live by accident and die by accident, or we live by plan and die by plan.(Thornton Wilder)
globbing and comments in /etc/apt/preferences
Hi, I have two questions related to file pattern matching and specifying comments in /etc/apt/preferences 1) I would like to pin all jed packages so that they don't get upgraded because I made som personal modifications to them. Those packages are jed, jed-common, jed-sl and xjed. I thought I should be able to do something like Package: *jed* Pin: version 0.99.15-1 Pin-Priority: 50 But not so. Do I really need to have a full record for each of them? 2) Is it possible to specify comments in /etc/apt/preferences? Thanks, Morten -- Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result. (Winston Churchill) - End forwarded message - -- More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly. (Woody Allen)
update-menus for user?
Hi, I only have access to the menus generated by update-menus if I start wmaker as root. When starting wmaker as a normal user no menus have been generated. I have tried running update-menus both as root and as user. What will I have to do to make them available to the normal user? TIA, Morten -- Education is a method whereby one acquires a higher grade of prejudices. (Laurence J. Peter)
Re: update-menus for user?
Siert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 01:40:43PM +0100, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: cut What will I have to do to make them available to the normal user? Did you tried `update-menus -v` to see where it goes wrong? I think the normal user is NOT allowed to read the files needed to generate the menu (/usr/lib/menu, /etc/menu, /etc/menu-methods). Nothing went wrong actually. I just had to remove ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu, then the menus generated by update-menus appeared but this has the downside that now I can't add my own customizations with hotkeys etc. through the wmaker configuration tool, wprefs, so I think I'm gonna dump the Debian menu-system unless somebody has an idea how to overcome this. Regards, Morten -- If work was a good thing the rich would have it all and not let you do it. (Elmore Leonard)
Re: update-menus for user?
Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 03:30:21PM +0100, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: Nothing went wrong actually. I just had to remove ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu, then the menus generated by update-menus appeared but this has the downside that now I can't add my own customizations with hotkeys etc. through the wmaker configuration tool, wprefs, so I think I'm gonna dump the Debian menu-system unless somebody has an idea how to overcome this. What's to overcome? Create whatever you like as your WindowMaker menu, include the Debian menu hook within it. That way you have the best of both worlds. I have tried placing this one /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook at the beginning of my own customized WMRootMenu, as well as at the end of it and also inside the first brace for good measure - but I get nothing but the menu generated by Debian, i.e. my own menu entries are not there. Is it indeed the right hook and if so where should I place it? I create a menu that has what *I* use most on it easily accessible, and then include the Debian one so that I can get to the rest of the stuff installed on the box. That's what I'd like! ;-) Regards, Morten PS: Sorry for saying that I would dump the debian menus. One should not use such offensive wording about the good work that others are doing, but it was out of moment's frustration. -- Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result. (Winston Churchill)
s3virge and Xfree 4.1 and wmaker
Hi, I would like to use the new Xfree 4.1 in woody with my S3 Virge/DX card but I am experiencing two problems: 1) When shifting from console to X (ctrl-alt-F7) it takes a couple of seconds for the dockapp icons on my desktop to be redrawn 2) The mouse pointer freezes ocassionally, usually after starting a program. This renders X useless for me. I am using the following versions: xfree86-common 4.1.0-5 xlib6g 4.1.0-5 xlibs 4.1.0-5 xserver-common 4.1.0-5 xserver-xfree86 4.1.0-5 wmaker 0.70.0-1 My /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file looks like this: - # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by Dexconf, the # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config manual page. # (Type man XF86Config at the shell prompt.) Section Files FontPathunix/:7100# local font server FontPathunix/:7101# local font server FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc EndSection Section ServerFlags EndSection Section Module # Loadddc # LoadGLcore # Loaddbe # Loaddri Loadextmod # Loadglx # Loadpex5 # Loadrecord # Loadxie # Loadbitmap # Loadfreetype # Loadspeedo # Loadtype1 # Loadvbe # Loadint10 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc102 Option XkbLayout dk EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/ttyS0 Option Protocol Microsoft EndSection Section Device Identifier S3 Inc. ViRGE/DX or /GX Driver s3virge Option pci_burst true # Option NoAccel true EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor HorizSync 30-50 VertRefresh 50-65 Option DPMS # Modeline1024x768 65.13 1024 1080 1256 1328 768 768 775 810 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device S3 Inc. ViRGE/DX or /GX Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth16 SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1024x768 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection #Section DRI # Mode0666 #EndSection # end of XF86Config I have tried various things like disabling accelleration in the s3virge driver but no change. There is not a single warning in the X log file either which makes it a little hard for me to debug. When I used xserver-svga 3.3.6 there were no problems. I hope someone can give me a clue. Thanks, Morten
zgv/svgalib - Monitor setting from environment denied
I have just installed zgv but when I start it I get a messy flickering screen, I exit with ctrl-c and I see these messages: Monitor setting from environment denied. Color/mono text selection from environment denied. svgalib applications otherwise work ok. so I am at a loss what to look for. zgv is 4755 at install so this is not the problem. Anybody to help? Regards, Morten
Re: lynx-ssl: Alert! HTTP 1.0 400 bad request; Not with other browsers
Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: lynx-ssl Version: 2.8.4.2-1 Does the following a lynx bug or is there a way to get lynx behave like other browsers? It could be a Lynx bug, certainly. Whether or not one should dub some behaviour in a brower's interaction with html a bug is too complicated a subject for me but following one of the links you referred to in Links (another text based browser with this very silly name) worked ok. so at least you could say that Lynx is less fault tolerant than Links in this instance. Reproducing the problem: 1. Go to http://www.ebay.com 2. In the search box have something reasonable, say tv. 3. Hit Find It. 4. You should get a list of suggested items. 5. Randomly choose one of the items. Now try following the link marked as `view seller's other auctions'. This results in an error screen. Prior to the error screen there is an error message at the status line at the bottom of the screen, saying Alert! HTTP 1.0 400 bad request. Lynx either inserts or does not strip a space between the userid= and the actual identity in the referring url so in Lynx for instance such a url may look like this: http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid= gypsyseller Note the space between the '=' and 'gypsyseller'. You can remedy the situation by hitting 'E' while staying on the link to edit it and then remove the space. I'll send your message to lynx-dev to see if anyone has any comments. Regards, Morten -- To create man was a quaint and original idea, but to add the sheep was tautology. (Mark Twain)
XAPPLRESDIR ignored.
Hi, I am trying to create a resource file for particular programs as specified in The X Window User HOWTO, section 8.5, instead of having the settings for all of them in ~/.Xdefaults. However it does not seem to work. Here is what I have done: - Set XAPPLRESDIR to point to ~/app-defaults in the top of ~/.xinitrc and an echo gives: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $XAPPLRESDIR /home/mojo/app-defaults - Obtained the resource name for eg. rxvt by using xprop, and it returns: WM_CLASS(STRING) = rxvt, XTerm - I have created a file 'rxvt' in ~/app-defaults with some settings like: *background:black *foreground:white *geometry: 78x28+0+0 *font: 12x24 *scrollBar_right: true *saveLines: 500 *termName: xterm-xfree86 and I have commented out settings in ~/.Xdefaults | ~/.Xressources that might override the above settings. To be sure I have also tried renaming the file in ~/app-defaults XTerm and Rxvt but no go. Why doesn't it work? Regards, Morten -- Anyone can do any amount of work provided it isn't the work he is supposed to be doing at that moment. (Robert Benchley)
Re: pppd problems
MaD dUCK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone have an idea how to make wvdial use pppd with the -d flag for debugging? It's been a long time since I used wvdial but I notice from an old backup that I had a file /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial with a few pppd options in it so I guess that wvdial could be made to read custom options from there. You could try and stick a 'debug' into it and see what happens. Regards, Morten
Re: Home stopped working in X
peter karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! After I yesterday updated some packages to be able to install KDE base from unstable, my Home key seems to have stopped working properly. It used to work in most places, but now it does some really weird things in several programs (most notably ncurses program and the bash shell). In my Xmodmap (I have a severly modified keymap) I have keycode 0x61 =Home so it should work properly. Has anything with this changed recently? Which package is most proper to file a bug against? xfree86-common? You might need to change the $TERM setting for your terminal program or hack its terminfo entry. infocmp $TERM $TERM.ti emacs $TERM.ti tic $TERM.ti man 5 terminfo explains the terminfo syntax Regards, Morten
Re: lynx, X, cut/paste???
Pierre Hyvernat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am using lynx (I am also trying w3m, but I haven't got used to it yet...) in X when I don't want to launch Mozilla or Netscape (and sometimes even if one of them is aleady running!) It looks like I can't always cut or paste text in it. [] Holding down the shift key while selecting the text to copy and likewise holding down the shift key when pasting should work all of the time. Regards, Morten -- Every age is fed on illusions, lest men should renounce life early and the human race come to an end.(Joseph Conrad)
Re: Mouse in xterm , mc problem.
Steve Kieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a minor problem ,I can not use mouse in rxvt or xterm running mc; before in slack I can use it. Even vim , I can not use (although I have set mouse options). In console I try to run gpm and mc, but have not test it yet. I use debian 2.2 r3. You probably have your $TERM variable set to rxvt and I don't think that any of the rxvt* terminfos support the use of mouse (correct me anyone). I therefore use xterm-color, i.e. put export TERM=xterm-color in your .bashrc Regards, Morten -- Chance is always powerful. Let your hook be always cast. In the pool where you least expect it, will be a fish. (Ovid)
Re: how to setup WMPPP
Ardy -- Not Entered -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [you might like to wrap your lines a wee bit..I did it for you] hai i need some help from you guys out there , does anybody know hot to setup WMPPP and also how to make it work? because this is first time for me to use wmppp , before i just use pon and poff to connect/disconnect my dialup internet , so please if someone knows about how to setup and make it work , i need some info for this Read the documentation in /user/share/doc/wmppp.app. There are some example files. If that doesn't get you going then return with some more specific questions. Regards, Morten -- I don't like money actually, but it quiets my nerves. (Joe Louis)
Broken perl 5.6.0 installation
Hi, When I upgraded from potato to woody it seems that I have done something wrong in that my perl installation now appears to be broken. When I try to install a module from cpan I get this error message: cpan install Net::FTP Running make for G/GB/GBARR/libnet-1.0703.tar.gz Can't locate object method new via package LWP::UserAgent at /usr/share/perl/5.6.0/CPAN.pm line 1979, FIN line 2. I have these packages installed (sorry for possible excess information): dpkg-perl install libdigest-md5-perl install libfreedb-perl install libhtml-parser-perl install libhtml-tagset-perl install libmime-base64-perl install libnet-perl install libnet-telnet-perl install libperl5.6 install libtimedate-perlinstall liburi-perl install libwww-perl install perlinstall perl-5.005 install perl-5.005-base install perl-5.005-debuginstall perl-5.005-doc install perl-5.005-suid install perl-5.6install perl-base install perl-debug install perl-docinstall perl-modulesinstall perl-suid install If anyone has an idea on how to overcome this I'd be very glad since this is a rather serious problem. I'd be equally glad if you'd cc me your answer. Thanks, Morten -- No matter how bad things get you got to go on living, even if it kills you. (Sholom Aleichem)
Re: library missing when installing MySQL
Henrik Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything seemed to go smoothly until I suddenly got this: checking for tgetent in -lncurses ... no checking for tgetent in -lcurses ... no checking for tgetent in -ltermcap ... no checking for termcap functions library ... error: configure: no curses/termcap library found I'd expect that you have not installed a package such as libncurses5-dev..? Regards, Morten -- So little time, so little to do. (Oscar Levant)
Re: library missing when installing MySQL
Henrik Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also tried 'apt-get install libncurses5-dev' - this couldn´t be found, and 'apt-get install libncurses-dev' gave me something like package libncurses-dev has no version [...] Am I using the right commands? On my potato CDs libncurses5-dev is on CD #3. You might not have the contents of this in your apt-cache? Try apt-cdrom -add and insert this CD. Regards, Morten -- Either we live by accident and die by accident, or we live by plan and die by plan.(Thornton Wilder)
Re: Setting lynx up to deal with a proxy server
Simmons-Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ISP uses a proxy server and so prevents Lynx from working properly (or at least that was a possiblility that someone else suggested). I know for sure that my ISP uses a proxy server as they told me themselves. Please tell me what information I need from my ISP and then where to change it in the Lynx configuration files. In what way does it not work? You must be more specific than that if people are supposed to be able to help. Your ISP would never require you to use their proxy server but they most cetainly offer you to make use of one. So it's not where your problem's at.. Regards, Morten -- Chance is always powerful. Let your hook be always cast. In the pool where you least expect it, will be a fish. (Ovid)
Re: Anyone using cdrdao with success ?
Sergio Da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if there is anybody out there who does disk-at-once recording using cdrdao or any other recording software. My main purpose is the recording of audio CDs, and so far I have succeeded only a few times in recording CDs without a glitch. Could you please specify the options you provide cdrdao with? Put the following with possible modifications into your .bashrc or equivalent: alias audio='cdrdao copy -v1 --paranoia-mode 3 --device 0,1,0 --driver generic \ -mmc-raw:0x0 --source-device 0,0,0 --source-driver generic-mmc-raw:0x0 --buffers 10' Now you can just type audio at the command prompt to copy an audio cd. 'device' and 'source-device' refer to your burner and regular cdrom drive respectively and their bus/target/luns are found by running 'cdrecord -scanbus' as root. You may also need to change the driver setting or possibly leave out any reference to it and let cdrdao probe for one itself. If you wanted anything other than copying please be a little more specific, then others might help. I noticed somewhere that going into single user mode when burning might be a good thing to do. HTH, Morten
Re: Mail config for dial-up
Gudmundur Erlingsson,,, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a dialup connection to the net, a mailbox at Yahoo (I'm a bit on the move) that I access using pop3 retreaval with Fetchmail, and since I really want to use Mutt (pretty sure it's safe to admit that in this crowd:-) I guess I have to use Exim as the smtp-server. I'm not sure, though, if this is the safest and best way to do this, and it seems a bit much to have a fullblown mailserver going on a laptop that's only connected 1-2 hours every day. So the question is: how are you (referring to more experienced users) doing it? Is exim the way to go, since it is already there, or is there some other, simpler solution? (remember that I *really* want to use Mutt:-) I think you should just stay with exim; its default setup is to be run from inetd and not in daemon mode so it doesn't take up resources beyond what's already being used by inetd. Besides, since you're using fetchmail you'll need an SMTP listener anyway. It's really not worth the effort changing this setup on a system like yours. Regards, Morten -- It usually takes me more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech. (Mark Twain)
Re: xcdroast replacement?
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: xcdroast from testing no longer works, and the one in unstble won't run either. What do other people used? I tried gtoaster but I have to admit I don't understand its user interface a bit. Gcombust will please you, I'm sure. As for audio I use cdrdao - and there is a GUI frontend for that as well, called gcdmaster. Regards, Morten
Re: running lynx
Simmons-Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Debian Group, I am unable to run lynx on the Debian 2.2r2 system I recently installed. After I run wvdial, connect to my ISP, hit cntrl z and then type the command lynx at the command prompt (all as root) I get the following errors (I have also set http://www.debian.org as my start page for lynx during the initial configuration, is it incorrect to have a remote host as my startpage?): debian:~# lynx Looking up www.debian.org Unable to locate remote host www.debian.org. Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. lynx: Can't access startfile http://www.debian.org/ debian:~# Please advise me as to how to get lynx working. Thank you very much for your time and energy. I think you're breaking your connection with the ctrl-z so the reason for the lynx error simply is that you have no connection to the internet. Instead run wvdial like this: nohup wvdial/dev/null 21 Regards, Morten
Re: Netscape/WindowMaker annoyance (XmDisplay)
kmself@ix.netcom.com kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 02:55:05PM +0100, Morten Bo Johansen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) kmself@ix.netcom.com kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:11:56PM +0100, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: I am using Netscape 4.76 with WindowMaker 0.64.0 on a potato system, the latter being compiled from the sources in unstable. Occasionally Netscape won't start when I click on its icon -- from the error messages that are output to one of the consoles I can see this: Class: XmDisplay _MOTIF_DRAG_WINDOW has been destroyed How did you create the icon and what are its settings? Are you running the Netscape binary directly, or the shell wrapper that's required to configure environments for it before launch? The icon is /usr/share/WindowMaker/Icons/Netscape.png, one of the stock wmaker icons. I have this on my dock. And just what do you think an image file has to do with running an application? Sorry, the mentioning of the clicking of the icon is surely irrelevant - I really just meant to say that netscape won't start. Of course the icon *is* associated with the command netscape (I have used wmaker for 3 years). It slipped in I guess because it could be assumed the problem lies in an interaction between netscape and wmaker - but hey let's forget about the damn icon ;-) What happens when you launch Netscape from the command line? Same thing - but it only happens occasionally and the annoying thing is that apparently there is no proces to kill to fix the problem. Thought maybe someone had had this experience and could shed some light.. Regards, Morten -- New Yorker cartoon caption: You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say may be used against you in a court of law, newspapers, periodicals, radio, television, all electronic media, and technologies yet to be developed.
apt-cache search in srcpkgcache.bin..?
Hi, Could someone help me with the syntax for searching the source cache.. I have tried something like apt-cache showpkg gimp -o Dir::Cache=/var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin My source cache reflects the unstable archive But the command above still only gives me package information from my old potato cdroms..? Thanks, Morten -- If work was a good thing the rich would have it all and not let you do it. (Elmore Leonard)
Re: Netscape/WindowMaker annoyance (XmDisplay)
kmself@ix.netcom.com kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:11:56PM +0100, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: I am using Netscape 4.76 with WindowMaker 0.64.0 on a potato system, the latter being compiled from the sources in unstable. Occasionally Netscape won't start when I click on its icon -- from the error messages that are output to one of the consoles I can see this: Class: XmDisplay _MOTIF_DRAG_WINDOW has been destroyed How did you create the icon and what are its settings? Are you running the Netscape binary directly, or the shell wrapper that's required to configure environments for it before launch? Thanks for your reply. The icon is /usr/share/WindowMaker/Icons/Netscape.png, one of the stock wmaker icons. I have this on my dock. I am running the netscape binary directly as netscape is simply installed with the script found in the package from ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/english/4.76/unix/supported/linux22/navigator_standalone but I have set the environment variable export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape in my .xinitrc so plugins work etc. Should I need to set any other variables..? Thanks, Morten PS: I found the Debian way of installing Netscape rather confusing so I chose this way. -- Either we live by accident and die by accident, or we live by plan and die by plan.(Thornton Wilder)
Netscape/WindowMaker annoyance (XmDisplay)
Hi, I am using Netscape 4.76 with WindowMaker 0.64.0 on a potato system, the latter being compiled from the sources in unstable. Occasionally Netscape won't start when I click on its icon -- from the error messages that are output to one of the consoles I can see this: Class: XmDisplay _MOTIF_DRAG_WINDOW has been destroyed I have no idea what to make of this, not even if it is caused by some combination of wmaker and netscape as I indicated in the subject. The Only way I can get netscape back to normal is actually to telinit to runlevel 1 and then start up again. Could someone help me in asserting what is causing this behaviour..? [I'd be glad if you'd cc me.] Thanks, Morten -- A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. (Winston Churchill)
Compiling the util-linux package for potato
Hi, I have fetched the deb-src package of util-linux 2.10q to comply with the demands of a kernel 2.4.1. Compiling and installing it seems more daunting than usual -- the MCONFIG file in the source archive lists a lot of options that should be answered correctly so as not to wind up with a system that you cannot log into. I am uncertain of the answers to some of the questions that these settings raise and would be greatful if someone could edit the MCONFIG file listed below with the settings filled in correctly for a fairly virgin potato system (only a few updates from stable/security): -MCONFIG begin--- # If HAVE_PAM is set to yes, then login, chfn, chsh, and newgrp # will use PAM for authentication. Additionally, passwd will not be # installed as it is not PAM aware. HAVE_PAM=yes # If HAVE_SHADOW is set to yes, then login, chfn, chsh, newgrp, passwd, # and vipw will not be built or installed from the login-utils # subdirectory. HAVE_SHADOW=yes # If HAVE_PASSWD is set to yes, then passwd will not be built or # installed from the login-utils subdirectory (but login, chfn, chsh, # newgrp, and vipw *will* be installed). HAVE_PASSWD=no # If you use chfn and chsh from this package, REQUIRE_PASSWORD will require # non-root users to enter the account password before updating /etc/passwd. REQUIRE_PASSWORD=yes #REQUIRE_PASSWORD=no # If you use chsh from this package, ONLY_LISTED_SHELLS will require that # the selected shell be listed in /etc/shells -- otherwise only a warning is # printed. This prevents someone from setting their shell to /bin/false. ONLY_LISTED_SHELLS=yes #ONLY_LISTED_SHELLS=no # If HAVE_SYSVINIT is set to yes, then simpleinit and shutdown will not # be built or installed from the login-utils subdirectory. (The shutdown # and halt that come with the SysVinit package should be used with the init # found in that package.) HAVE_SYSVINIT=no # If HAVE_SYSVINIT_UTILS is set to yes, then last, mesg, and wall will # not be built or installed from the login-utils subdirectory. (The # shutdown and init from the SysVinit package do not depend on the last, # mesg, and wall from that package.) HAVE_SYSVINIT_UTILS=no # If HAVE_GETTY is set to yes, then agetty will not be built or # installed from the login-utils subdirectory. Note that agetty can # co-exist with other gettys, so this option should never be used. HAVE_GETTY=no # If USE_TTY_GROUP is set to yes, then wall and write will be installed # setgid to the tty group, and mesg will only set the group write bit. # Note that this is only useful if login/xterm/etc. change the group of the # user's tty to tty [The login in util-linux does this correctly, and # xterm will do it correctly if X is compiled with USE_TTY_GROUP set # properly.] USE_TTY_GROUP=yes # If HAVE_RESET is set to yes, then reset won't be installed. The version # of reset that comes with the ncurses package is less aggressive. HAVE_RESET=yes # If HAVE_SLN is set to yes, then sln won't be installed # (but the man page sln.8 will be installed anyway). # sln also comes with libc and glibc. HAVE_SLN=no
Potato and kernel 2.4
I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a link explaining the steps one needs to take to install a 2.4 kernel on a potato system. I suppose that several packages (e.g. pppd) need to be updated to get a functioning system.. Thanks -- All truths are half-truths. (Alfred North Whitehead)
Syncronize pc-clock w/timeserver
Hi, I would like to use netdate to syncronize my computer's timesetting with that of a timeserver but no matter what timeserver address I pass to netdate I get the following lacklustre message: Connection with udp to x.x.x.x failed I converted to Debian a couple of weeks ago and this used to work in SuSE. Does anyone know what I need to fix? Also if you have some other advice for me based on some package(s) (instead of netdate) that are in Debian 2.2 that would appreciated. Thanks, Morten -- The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it. (Oscar Wilde)
Re: Syncronize pc-clock w/timeserver
kmself@ix.netcom.com kmself@ix.netcom.com said: On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 11:59:03PM +0200, Morten Bo Johansen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, I would like to use netdate to syncronize my computer's timesetting with that of a timeserver but no matter what timeserver address I pass to netdate I get the following lacklustre message: Connection with udp to x.x.x.x failed I use ntpdate, cronned to run a few times a day. There is also ntpd, which continuously polls a list of timeservers to keep your system(s) syncronized. Is networking working for you -- can you ping the host or otherwise connect to it? Yes it's working. It is something with the udp stuff, I think - but nevermind, I used the advice I got from others as well as from you, to use the ntpdate program and it works fine. Thanks a lot to you and everybody else. Best regards, Morten -- Experience is what enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. (Earl Wilson)
Re: Q: Best PPP dial-up console mail app?
Jonathan Gift [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, I have a 56k dial up using pon and poff and was wondering which of the console choices would allow me to fetch and dl mail? Also write off-line, then log on and send. Mutt and Pine I have heard about. The ability to filter into assorted folders (like for mailing lists) would be a necessity. This for a single account. Mailreader: A quick examination of the 973 mails I've received on the debian-user list so far shows that 399 were composed by Mutters so if you'd like to..hurler avec les loups, use mutt ;) Filtering: Exim is already installed for you and set up to use procmail as its local postman. All you need is a .procmailrc in your home directory with rules on what folders you want to filter your messages into. How to go about that has been discussed on this list today. Look at some of the previous threads. Writing offline, logging on and sending: Can be accomplished in more than one way; in addition to the answer you've already received you can also configure your pppd setup to use demand dialling (use pppconfig to set it up). Once you dispatch your message from within Mutt, Pine whatever, a connection will be established automatically and your message will fly off to its destination. Fetching mail: Use fetchmail. There is a GUI to facilitate the configuration. Good luck, Morten -- Anyone can do any amount of work provided it isn't the work he is supposed to be doing at that moment. (Robert Benchley)
