Re: (OT) LaTeX vs Word vs OOo (was: (OT) gnash vs. flash)
On 2010-03-18 17:21:26 +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:24:12 +0100 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.org wrote: This is fine as long as you don't publish articles via commercial publishers. The IEEE Computer Society now uses Microsoft Word, and the files they produce are not correctly readable with OOo. :( Depends on your field. In my field (mathematics) almost no journal or conference accepts anything other than latex and even when they do, they strongly discourage it. It's computer science. * IEEE TC accepts LaTeX, but converts the file into their own format, which does not support PS/PDF figures (only bitmap) and does not support \mathbb fonts. * Computing in Science Engineering (CiSE) also accepts LaTeX, but our submitted article was converted (or manually copied, which would explain some mistakes that have been introduced) into MS Word by the publisher, who gave the MS Word file back to us for checking. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100321113146.gh1...@prunille.vinc17.org
Re: (OT) LaTeX vs Word vs OOo (was: (OT) gnash vs. flash)
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:24:12 +0100 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.org wrote: On 2010-03-18 10:19:07 +0200, Micha wrote: Personally though I use lyx for anything I can get away with. Luckily in university mathematics no one knows word. Almost everyone apart for a few students that haven't converted yet use latex. This is fine as long as you don't publish articles via commercial publishers. The IEEE Computer Society now uses Microsoft Word, and the files they produce are not correctly readable with OOo. :( Depends on your field. In my field (mathematics) almost no journal or conference accepts anything other than latex and even when they do, they strongly discourage it. I published papers with journals associated with both siam and ieee, both wouldn't accept word files. I guess I chose the right field ... ;-) Don't know what happens with book publishers in the field. It may be different if they are academy oriented or industry oriented as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100318172126.6cf9a...@vivalunalitshi.luna.local
(OT) LaTeX vs Word vs OOo (was: (OT) gnash vs. flash)
On 2010-03-18 10:19:07 +0200, Micha wrote: Personally though I use lyx for anything I can get away with. Luckily in university mathematics no one knows word. Almost everyone apart for a few students that haven't converted yet use latex. This is fine as long as you don't publish articles via commercial publishers. The IEEE Computer Society now uses Microsoft Word, and the files they produce are not correctly readable with OOo. :( -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100318132412.gb1...@prunille.vinc17.org
Re: (OT) LaTeX vs Word vs OOo
Vincent writes: [Latex] is fine as long as you don't publish articles via commercial publishers. I think that you will find that the math journals can deal with it. Some may even require it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87eijhpts9@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:12:38 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. . . LaTeX is not recommended for casual writing. The learning curve is so steep that most people would give up before they see the beauty of LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Check and see if this can be of any help All You Need to Know about Latex http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/language/latex/ HTH . . . -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
I had to work on a LaTeX/Perl project a couple of months ago, but didn't know much about it. These got me up to speed well enough: The Not So Short Introduction to LaTeX2e http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf LaTeX Tutorials: A Primer http://www.tug.org.in/tutorials.html A Beginner's Introduction to Typesetting with LaTeX http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/latex.html#othertutors http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/beginlatex/beginlatex-3.6.pdf There are also some classic LaTeX books (see heather.cs.ucdavis.edu link), but I found the web stuff was enough for my needs. As Levar Burton always said, though: But don't take my word for it! --John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ctan.org recommends http://ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/ as a document to start with. Cheers Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 01:39:39PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 12:47:02PM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote: I installed vim-latexsuite which installed vim-addon-manager. Then I entered 'vim-addons install latex-suite' to enable it. Now when I enter 'vim-addons show' I get: Addon: latex-suite Status: broken Description: comprehensive set of tools to view, edit, and compile LaTeX documents What is it that is broken? How do I fix it? Found it: http://bugs.debian.org/446080 And the addon is not used unless you edit a latex file, so either you edit an existing file that starts with \documentclass... or you should ':setf tex' (ex. for a new file). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 11:12:38AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: Hello DU I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX? I found Texmaker a wonderful tool when I first started on latex. In fact I still use texmaker when I am feeling lazy. (And/or Kile, almost identical, but uses some KDE stuff and so loads more slowly first time). The Latex guide in the help menu is a great beginner's resource and the easy tools for most common latex markup are a quick way to get familiar with the structure of Latex. You can also compile and view either dvi ps of pdf from inside the editor. Vim Latexsuite does these things too, but you need some vim skills to enjoy it. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
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On Nov 27, 2007 1:37 AM, Sarunas Burdulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'pdflatex latexfile' will produce latexfile.pdf.
Alternatively, use dvips (dvi-postscript) and then ps2pdf.
One advantage of using pdflatex, rather than dvips+ps2pdf or dvipdf,
is that you can add
\usepackage{hyperref}
to your preamble and get internal links in your PDF file based on the
\label and \ref commands in your document. I think it works for \cite
as well.
I haven't used it lately, but hyperref, by embedding PS code within
\special{}, used to work fine with dvips and Acrobat Distiller as far as
links, bookmarks and other PDF features.
Sarunas
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Re: [OT] LaTeX
Sarunas Burdulis wrote:
Michael Marsh wrote:
On Nov 27, 2007 1:37 AM, Sarunas Burdulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'pdflatex latexfile' will produce latexfile.pdf.
Alternatively, use dvips (dvi-postscript) and then ps2pdf.
One advantage of using pdflatex, rather than dvips+ps2pdf or dvipdf,
is that you can add
\usepackage{hyperref}
to your preamble and get internal links in your PDF file based on the
\label and \ref commands in your document. I think it works for \cite
as well.
I haven't used it lately, but hyperref, by embedding PS code within
\special{}, used to work fine with dvips and Acrobat Distiller as far as
links, bookmarks and other PDF features.
Sarunas
Yes, it does. I have a conditional in the preamble which sets the
options for hyperref (they are different for pdflatex and for latex).
But in both cases, I get a hyperlinked PDF document.
-HS
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Re: [OT] LaTeX
Michael Pobega wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello DU I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX? I find hyperlatex really handy (http://packages.debian.org/sid/hyperlatex) That creates an html page from a LaTeX document. So whatever you write in LaTeX you get it both as an html document and as a printable doc. Some restrictions apply. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 01:42:37PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: So far I've used the latex file command to compile a .dvi file for viewing; What's the best way to process a .tex file into a .pdf? I don't know if this is the best, but I found the option -output-format to latex. You can specify dvi (default) or pdf. There might be a config file somewhere that makes pdf the default. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] LaTeX
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 01:42:37PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: So far I've used the latex file command to compile a .dvi file for viewing; What's the best way to process a .tex file into a .pdf? I don't know if this is the best, but I found the option -output-format to latex. You can specify dvi (default) or pdf. There might be a config file somewhere that makes pdf the default. Regards, Andrei 'pdflatex latexfile' will produce latexfile.pdf. Alternatively, use dvips (dvi-postscript) and then ps2pdf. Sarunas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Nov 27, 2007 1:37 AM, Sarunas Burdulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'pdflatex latexfile' will produce latexfile.pdf.
Alternatively, use dvips (dvi-postscript) and then ps2pdf.
One advantage of using pdflatex, rather than dvips+ps2pdf or dvipdf,
is that you can add
\usepackage{hyperref}
to your preamble and get internal links in your PDF file based on the
\label and \ref commands in your document. I think it works for \cite
as well.
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[OT] LaTeX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello DU I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX? - -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHSZ72g6qL2BGnx4QRAqrxAJsHpHb1RVlqUt/CzqfDKAuHikuNYwCeOwZx Dr+xDvNLZ+/GP1PbfRSzD7g= =oOST -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Nov 25, 2007 4:12 PM, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX? You didn't say which release you're using, so if texlive is available, install that. If not, install tetex. texlive is a meta-package, and suggests texlive-doc-en, which contains /usr/share/doc/texlive-doc-en/english/lshort-english/lshort.pdf -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com http://36pints.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 11:12:38AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote:
Hello DU
I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've
no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite
package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages
are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX.
Any point in the right direction would really help!
Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out
there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX?
LaTex is a superset of Tex and as such is installed in the TexLive
packages. You'll want the texdoc and texdoctk programs. Texdoctk is
the easiest to use. It gives you a GUI-based menu of all the
documentation. Click on a piece of documentation and it starts up the
correct viewer for it (i.e. depending on if the file is pdf, dvi, ps,
text, html, whatever).
The first document to read would be the not so short introduction to
latex. Basically, spend a day reading all the docs that are general
(not esoteric to a use you don't need). Then try to write something.
As for compiling and viewing LaTex, I write it in vim, compile it
with latex on the command line and view it in xdvi, gv, kpdf, lynx, or
konqueror (depending on the format I've made). I get help in vim with:
:help latex
As an example LaTex document, here's my letterhead template:
\documentclass[letterpaper,12pt]{article}
%preamble here
\begin{document}
% no page number on this first page
\thispagestyle{empty}
\begin{flushleft}
Douglas A. Tutty\\
160 McQuay St, RR. 3\\
Yarker, ON K0K 3N0\\
Ph: (613) 358--5861\\
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\end{flushleft}
\noindent \today
\bigskip
\noindent Dear:
\bigskip
\begin{flushleft}
Yours truly,
\vspace{2cm}
Douglas A. Tutty.
\end{flushleft}
\end{document}
---
As an alternative or suppliment, you could install lyx. Its a qt-based
wysiwyg editor that produces tex and can export latex. It has gread
documentation that gives you a head-start on tex concepts. I used it
for about 2 days before I went to vim and straight latex.
Doug.
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Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 11:12:38AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: Hello DU I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX? The best tutorial is probably the Not-So-Short Introduction to LaTeX2e: www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf As for Debian packages, you'll want some subset of the texlive-* packages. Try just the 'texlive' package for starters, which pulls in some of the LaTeX stuff. -- Benjamin A'Lee :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subvert Technologies :: http://subvert.org.uk/ pgpeVhyGzvjd2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] LaTeX
Hi, `lshort.pdf' is very good starting point to learn LaTeX. Good LaTeXing, Jerome Michael Marsh wrote: On Nov 25, 2007 4:12 PM, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX? You didn't say which release you're using, so if texlive is available, install that. If not, install tetex. texlive is a meta-package, and suggests texlive-doc-en, which contains /usr/share/doc/texlive-doc-en/english/lshort-english/lshort.pdf -- Jerome BENOIT jgmbenoit_at_mailsnare_dot_net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
I installed vim-latexsuite which installed vim-addon-manager. Then I entered 'vim-addons install latex-suite' to enable it. Now when I enter 'vim-addons show' I get: Addon: latex-suite Status: broken Description: comprehensive set of tools to view, edit, and compile LaTeX documents What is it that is broken? How do I fix it? -- The Privacy Act, if enforced would be a pretty good thing. But the government doesn't like it. Government has an insatiable appetite for power, and it will not stop usurping power unless it is restrained by laws they cannot repeal or nullify. There are mighty few laws they cannot nullify. -- Sam Ervin Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As others have said, the not-so-short guide it good. If you want something short and quick, there's plenty on the net such as: http://polishlinux.org/tex/latex-the-basics-part-i/ http://www.electronics.oulu.fi/latex/index.html I usually process it with pdftex and view with a pdf viewer. -- swk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 12:47:02PM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote: I installed vim-latexsuite which installed vim-addon-manager. Then I entered 'vim-addons install latex-suite' to enable it. Now when I enter 'vim-addons show' I get: Addon: latex-suite Status: broken Description: comprehensive set of tools to view, edit, and compile LaTeX documents What is it that is broken? How do I fix it? I have the same problem after following your instructions; Should this be filed as a bug report against vim-latexsuite? I have been unable to get the suite working thus far, personally. - -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHScFrg6qL2BGnx4QRAu3lAJwMzbkfu8BStqnH5X8RkdsyuOEQUwCeLeLq J1z3lA02gnUfpynJ02lmEa0= =Pr60 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 11:25:14AM -0700, Robert Jerrard wrote: On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 11:12 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX? Hi Michael, how much do you know about LaTeX so far? Thus far all I know is LaTeX is some sort of a graphical language (Ala HTML) for text and image control to create documents. Installing texlive typically gives you what you need for compiling. Depending on the content of your work you may find xdvi sufficient for displaying the finished result. When I have documents with graphs, xdvi does not always handle the result properly and so often use dvips to create a ps file that can be view with any postscript viewer. So far I've used the latex file command to compile a .dvi file for viewing; What's the best way to process a .tex file into a .pdf? I typically write LaTeX in a text file using emacs. Have a .emacs file and have auctex installed allows helpful automatic colouring of text so commands show up separately to regular text, etc. I use vim-full, which automatically has syntax coloring for .tex files, which is very useful. I love Vim, I've yet to find a single file that hasn't had proper syntax coloring. - -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHScIdg6qL2BGnx4QRAiJnAJ0cOyCDhGNIKnwKloewMfEYQugnpgCfdUkd 2fEUmyosgj2w5CzEwVbTU9U= =NJx8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 01:42:37PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: So far I've used the latex file command to compile a .dvi file for viewing; What's the best way to process a .tex file into a .pdf? At least two ways: latex to make a dvi (device independant format) dvipdf to turn it into a pdf pdflatex to go from latex to pdf directly. Depending on the details in the file, one may work better than the other. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 01:42:37PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: So far I've used the latex file command to compile a .dvi file for viewing; What's the best way to process a .tex file into a .pdf? You can either run dvipdf on the dvi file, or pdflatex on the tex file. IIRC there's some situations where latex+dvipdf is needed, but generally pdflatex is better. -- Benjamin A'Lee :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subvert Technologies :: http://subvert.org.uk/ pgpObfSrLM01S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] LaTeX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/25/07 12:42, Michael Pobega wrote: [snip] Thus far all I know is LaTeX is some sort of a graphical language (Ala HTML) for text and image control to create documents. Officially, tex is a typesetting system. But yes, tex *is* a markup language, and a Turing-complete one at that. [snip] So far I've used the latex file command to compile a .dvi file for viewing; What's the best way to process a .tex file into a .pdf? If you print-to-file, the usual output is .ps. Then you could run ps2pdf. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA %SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHScsES9HxQb37XmcRAlXZAKCAkUYWGwACOkET0hav2wU0kgJ7WQCgiY0j hYINOnnzl2cmiWSi0nbBgjw= =Fdt0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 01:39:39PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 12:47:02PM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote: I installed vim-latexsuite which installed vim-addon-manager. Then I entered 'vim-addons install latex-suite' to enable it. Now when I enter 'vim-addons show' I get: Addon: latex-suite Status: broken Description: comprehensive set of tools to view, edit, and compile LaTeX documents What is it that is broken? How do I fix it? I have the same problem after following your instructions; Should this be filed as a bug report against vim-latexsuite? I have been unable to get the suite working thus far, personally. I get the same, but a .tex file in vim looks entirely different. I think the addon works. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 11:12 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX? Hi Michael, how much do you know about LaTeX so far? Installing texlive typically gives you what you need for compiling. Depending on the content of your work you may find xdvi sufficient for displaying the finished result. When I have documents with graphs, xdvi does not always handle the result properly and so often use dvips to create a ps file that can be view with any postscript viewer. I typically write LaTeX in a text file using emacs. Have a .emacs file and have auctex installed allows helpful automatic colouring of text so commands show up separately to regular text, etc. http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/preview-latex.html HTH, Bob -- Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics, Concordia University College of Alberta, 7128 Ada Blvd., Edmonton, Alberta, T5B 4E4, Canada. Phone: (780) 479-9291, Fax: (780) 474-1933. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:12:38 -0500 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello DU I'd like to begin writing my coursework for college in LaTeX, but I've no clue where to start. I began by installing the vim-latexsuite package, but that didn't seem to really work too well (The help pages are both missing), and I have no clue where to start to learn LaTeX. Any point in the right direction would really help! Also, for the Debian related question; What package would people out there recommend for compiling and viewing LaTeX? under testing/unstable you want texlive, for stable, possibly tetex if I recall correctly. I never worked with the vim extension. I use emacs with auctex and lyx (a mostly WYSIWYG latex editor). You may also want to have a look at texmaker which is rather nice. As for learning latex, look with google (it's also probably in some debian package) for the not so short introduction to latex. As for books, the classics are latex: a document preparation system by leslie lamport and the latex companion - -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHSZ72g6qL2BGnx4QRAqrxAJsHpHb1RVlqUt/CzqfDKAuHikuNYwCeOwZx Dr+xDvNLZ+/GP1PbfRSzD7g= =oOST -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi there, I would recommend a small nifty utility called rubber. It is simply a front end for the most common latex compile commands. Thus, if you want to compile your latex file into pdf simply run rubber --pdf filename.tex It takes care of everything. It is available in the debian packages. Amit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 13:42 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: So far I've used the latex file command to compile a .dvi file for viewing; What's the best way to process a .tex file into a .pdf? I typically run the commands dvips file.dvi -o ps2pdf file.ps once the dvi file has been created. The first command creates a file with name file.ps, ie the same first part but with the .ps extension. The second creates another file with the same name but the .pdf extension. The dvips command is part of the texlive install and the ps2pdf command is part of a ghostscript install. The commands can be run inside emacs or in a terminal. Perhaps system commands can also be run within vim (I don't use vim). I only bother with the pdf when I want to make it available to others that don't know all this, otherwise I view the .ps file to see the finished product. HTH, Bob -- Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics, Concordia University College of Alberta, 7128 Ada Blvd., Edmonton, Alberta, T5B 4E4, Canada. Phone: (780) 479-9291, Fax: (780) 474-1933. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX
On Nov 25, 2007 1:39 PM, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 12:47:02PM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote: I installed vim-latexsuite which installed vim-addon-manager. Then I entered 'vim-addons install latex-suite' to enable it. Now when I enter 'vim-addons show' I get: Addon: latex-suite Status: broken Description: comprehensive set of tools to view, edit, and compile LaTeX documents What is it that is broken? How do I fix it? I have the same problem after following your instructions; Should this be filed as a bug report against vim-latexsuite? I have been unable to get the suite working thus far, personally. I forgot how I installed it but I found it very useful although it behaves slightly differently after vim upgraded from 6 to 7. Try downloading the suite directly from their website and just put it in you .vim. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 01:53:00PM -0800, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: Hi there, I would recommend a small nifty utility called rubber. It is simply a front end for the most common latex compile commands. Thus, if you want to compile your latex file into pdf simply run rubber --pdf filename.tex It takes care of everything. It is available in the debian packages. Amit That's EXACTLY what I was looking for, something like that; Thanks so much, this is going to make my life with LaTeX so much easier. - -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHSkWDg6qL2BGnx4QRArGWAJ9NdXzwYfJFkW2RpAqfVmTBGc+Q7wCgknCM 3KIopSYjmpPsRHmPYhpDfVA= =Ix5k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:03:15 -0500 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 01:53:00PM -0800, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: Hi there, I would recommend a small nifty utility called rubber. It is simply a front end for the most common latex compile commands. Thus, if you want to compile your latex file into pdf simply run rubber --pdf filename.tex It takes care of everything. It is available in the debian packages. Amit That's EXACTLY what I was looking for, something like that; Thanks so much, this is going to make my life with LaTeX so much easier. No Problem! Good luck with LaTeX! Amit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:53:41AM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Kent West wrote: (Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian question.) Not an offtopic question. You are using Debian, so this is relevant IMHO. Great, I have a bad case of flatulence. Should I see a Doctor or is it just a passing fad? -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:53:41AM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Kent West wrote: (Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian question.) Not an offtopic question. You are using Debian, so this is relevant IMHO. Great, I have a bad case of flatulence. Should I see a Doctor or is it just a passing fad? Heh, passing fad -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 22:23:48 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:53:41AM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Kent West wrote: (Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian question.) Not an offtopic question. You are using Debian, so this is relevant IMHO. Great, I have a bad case of flatulence. Should I see a Doctor or is it just a passing fad? Maybe you should use a less bloated desktop environment... -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Kent West: What I'm concerned about is the chord names (A, D, etc) need to line up with the word where the chords change, which means exact placement will be necessary. I currently do this in OO.o with a monospace font and manually spacing over to where the chord name goes. I am sure this works reasonably well, but I gues it is a little bit ugly. You can sureley do exactly the same thing with LaTeX, but if you do it doesn't gain you very much. As an alternative, there are some LaTeX styles directly related to your problem and their example output looks quite good: http://www.rath.ca/Misc/Songbook/index.shtml The songs will be one (or maybe two or three short ones) to a page, with a few taking two or three pages. The pages won't be numbered, but I will want them in alphabetical order by category (mine, Christmas songs, Country songs, etc), and then a table of contents. This way I can add a new song/page without having to re-print the entire book of songs; I can just print the one song and the newly-generated table of contents, and then replace the current TOC in my book with the new one and put the new song/page into the proper place alphabetically into the book. I do not think LaTeX can help you with the task of automatically sorting the songs for you, but you are not forced to use page numbers and TOC generation is really easy. And my second question: Is the learning curve going to be worth it, or should I just stick to OO.o which pretty much does the job already? As I have never used LaTeX for this task, I cancot comment on whether it's worth learning LaTeX only for this task. However, after learning it by doing a beamer presentation and then doing my diploma thesis with it, I found it very useful for other tasks (resume writing, DIN-compliant letters) as well. The learning curve is not that steep, at least if you are a little bit familiar with other markup or programming languages. So the benefits of learning LaTeX, as I see it, is that is a useful tool for a lot of tasks and that it generally produces (sometimes awesomely) beautiful output. J. -- Watching television is more hip than actually speaking to anyone. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Kent West wrote:
(Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian
question.)
Verse 1
A
I wanna make you smile
Bm
Whenever you're sad
C#m
Carry you around
D
When your arthritis is bad
A E
All I wanna do is
D A E
Grow old with you.
What I'm concerned about is the chord names (A, D, etc) need to line up
with the word where the chords change, which means exact placement will
be necessary. I currently do this in OO.o with a monospace font and
manually spacing over to where the chord name goes.
With plain LaTeX, I would just define a proper macro for algning the
letters, say
\newcommand{chord}{Definition of how to put chord A over letter a}
and then whenever your want a chord, you just type \chord{chord}{letter}
whenever you want chord over a letter.
The songs will be one (or maybe two or three short ones) to a page, with
a few taking two or three pages. The pages won't be numbered, but I will
want them in alphabetical order by category (mine, Christmas songs,
Country songs, etc), and then a table of contents. This way I can add a
new song/page without having to re-print the entire book of songs; I can
just print the one song and the newly-generated table of contents, and
then replace the current TOC in my book with the new one and put the new
song/page into the proper place alphabetically into the book.
My suggestion is to use one .tex-file per song, where the filename is
the title of the song (replace spaces by _). You can then just to use
'ls' and 'sort' or the like to create an alphabetical list of your
songs. These will then be incorporated into your songbooks
latex-master-file in alphabetical order. [Hint: \include{filename}]
My basic question is this: Is LaTeX suitable for this sort of document?
Yes.
And my second question: Is the learning curve going to be worth it, or
should I just stick to OO.o which pretty much does the job already?
Yes, as someone else has pointed out, you will soon discover that you
can do many useful neat tricks you never knew of...
I'm no guitarplayer, and so I don't know if that is really what you
wanted, but here comes my little LaTeX hack to do what I think you
wanted to achieve. The pdf (7.2k) of all that is attached as well.
Johannes
NB: I don't know if this alignment (without use of a monospace font!) is
what you would want, but that could be changed easily. Probably one
would also like to improve the linespacing a bit.
---LaTeX-File---
\documentclass[a4paper,10pt]{article}
\newlength{\chordlength}
\newcommand{\chord}[2]{\settowidth{\chordlength}{#2}\parbox[b]{\chordlength}{#1\\#2}}
\begin{document}
\section{Verse 1}
\begin{verse}
I wanna m\chord{A}{a}ke you smile\\
Wh\chord{Bm}{e}never you're sad\\
C\chord{C\#m}{a}rry you around\\
When your arthr\chord{D}{i}tis is bad\\
\chord{A}{A}ll I wanna do \chord{E}{i}s\\
Grow \chord{D}{o}ld with y\chord{A}{o}u. \quad \chord{E}{ }
\end{verse}
\end{document}
---/LatexFile---
song.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Kent West wrote:
What I'm concerned about is the chord names (A, D, etc) need to line up
with the word where the chords change, which means exact placement will
be necessary.
---LaTeX-File---
\documentclass[a4paper,10pt]{article}
\newlength{\chordlength}
\newcommand{\chord}[2]{\settowidth{\chordlength}{#2}\parbox[b]{\chordlength}{#1\\#2}}
\begin{document}
\section{Verse 1}
\begin{verse}
I wanna m\chord{A}{a}ke you smile\\
Wh\chord{Bm}{e}never you're sad\\
C\chord{C\#m}{a}rry you around\\
When your arthr\chord{D}{i}tis is bad\\
\chord{A}{A}ll I wanna do \chord{E}{i}s\\
Grow \chord{D}{o}ld with y\chord{A}{o}u. \quad \chord{E}{ }
\end{verse}
\end{document}
---/LatexFile---
Wow! That looks promising. I'll play with it later today.
Thanks!
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Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Kent West wrote: (Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian question.) Not an offtopic question. You are using Debian, so this is relevant IMHO. I've been using OpenOffice.org to produce paper copies of songs written for guitar, but with all the talk about LaTeX on this list lately, I got to wondering if it might be a better product. In your case, I suggest to use texmacs. The material looks like standard guitar tabs you'd find on the web, like this, from http://www.guitaretab.com/a/adam-sandler/211.html: I am unable to access this website. But I will give it a try with the song you provided. ADAM SANDLER THE WEDDING SINGER VOL.2 GROW OLD WITH YOU Transcribed by BEB 910 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Verse 1 A I wanna make you smile Bm Whenever you're sad C#m Carry you around D When your arthritis is bad A E All I wanna do is D A E Grow old with you. See the output attached. The commands I used are 1. select the text with your mouse 2. texmacs - Text - Environment - Verbatim 3. Edit - Paste from - Verbatim You just need to adjust the spaces if necessary And my second question: Is the learning curve going to be worth it, or should I just stick to OO.o which pretty much does the job already? I say go with texmacs. It's learning curve is not as steep as latex. You can pretty much do everything in texmacs + it is a GUI environment. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ song.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document TeXmacs|1.0.6.8 style|generic \body \verbatim Verse 1 \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ A I wanna make you smile Bm Whenever you're sad C#m Carry you around \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ D When your arthritis is bad A \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ E All I wanna do is \ \ \ \ \ D \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ A \ \ \ \ E Grow old with you. \; \; Verse 2 \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ A I'll get you medicine Bm When your tummy aches C#m Build you a fire \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ D When the furnace breaks A \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ E It could be so nice \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ D \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ A \ \ \ A7 Growing old with you. \; /verbatim /body \initial \collection associate|language|american associate|page-type|letter /collection /initial
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Hi, On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:12:55 -0600, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: (Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian question.) I've been using OpenOffice.org to produce paper copies of songs written for guitar, but with all the talk about LaTeX on this list lately, I got to wondering if it might be a better product. The material looks like standard guitar tabs you'd find on the web, like this, from http://www.guitaretab.com/a/adam-sandler/211.html: Package: musixtex Description: Typeset music scores with TeX This package contains the MusiXTeX macros, musixflex, MusiXTeX User's Manual in LaTeX source and DVI formats, and example source MusiXTeX music score files. . MusiXTeX is a set of versatile and power TeX macros to typeset polyphonic, orchestral or choral music. It allows very fine control and produces professional printed music scores. . Due to the important amount of information to be provided to the typesetting process, coding MusiXTeX might appear to be awfully complicated, especially for beginners. Therefore, it is recommended to use MusiXTeX with some pre-processors, such as PMX and M-Tx, available as Debian packages. Package: musixlyr Description: a MusiXTeX extension for handling lyrics musixlyr is a set of TeX macros to be used with Taupin MusiXTeX (version T.52 or later) for typesetting vocal music. Its purpose is to compensate two drawbacks of MusiXTeX's lyrics handling: . * Typesetting lyrics with the native musixtex commands \zcharnote, \zsong etc. tends to be quite inefficient, particularly if the lyrics have to be changed or corrected. The idea underlying musixlyr is to separate lyrics coding from music coding and let TeX weave them together with as little manual interference as possible. As a result you can enter and edit lyrics (nearly) as easily as normal text. . * musixtex has no built-in mechanism for centering hyphens between syllables and for handling hyphenation at long melismas. This is implemented in musixlyr following the example of engraved music. . Author: Rainer Dunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Primary-site: http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/indexmt6.html manoj -- Massachusetts has the best politicians money can buy. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Kent West wrote: (Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian question.) I've been using OpenOffice.org to produce paper copies of songs written for guitar, but with all the talk about LaTeX on this list lately, I got to wondering if it might be a better product. snip It's already been said, but I am sure that LaTex has a variant to do what you want. However, it gets little discussion on this list. I usually ask comp.text.tex and get the answers. I find, after writing a book and publishing it in LaTex, that you can get anything at all done. Finding out how is the problem. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:12:55 -0600, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The material looks like standard guitar tabs you'd find on the web, like this, from http://www.guitaretab.com/a/adam-sandler/211.html: Package: musixtex Description: Typeset music scores with TeX This package contains the MusiXTeX macros, musixflex, MusiXTeX User's Manual in LaTeX source and DVI formats, and example source MusiXTeX music score files. Package: musixlyr Description: a MusiXTeX extension for handling lyrics musixlyr is a set of TeX macros to be used with Taupin MusiXTeX (version T.52 or later) for typesetting vocal music. Its purpose is to compensate two drawbacks of MusiXTeX's lyrics handling: Looks promising, but the learning curve appears to be a right-angle. From page 2 of the manual: If you are not familiar with TEX at all I would recommend to find another software package to do musical typesetting. Setting up TEX and MusiXTEX on your machine and mastering it is an awesome job which gobbles up a lot of your time and disk space. But, once you master it... Hans Kuykens I tried to find a _simple_ Step1-Step2-Step3 to go from a blank text file to a finished one-liner staff, but either my googling capabilities are inadequate, or as is typical of much Free software, the folks who know how to do stuff never bother to write for those who don't. (Don't get me wrong; I very much appreciate the efforts of the developers of Free software, etc; it just sometimes gets frustrating when you're coming in as a total newb, which I am when it comes to TeX and friends.) Thanks, though! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Hi, havnt been following this thread, just jumping in. This link has some samples of musixtex that you could perhaps use to get yourself familiar with it. Else use something like noteedit to edit your music and if you want, then you can export your music to musixtex. HTH Oli Þann 2007-02-15, 18:06:05 (-0600) skrifaði Kent West: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:12:55 -0600, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The material looks like standard guitar tabs you'd find on the web, like this, from http://www.guitaretab.com/a/adam-sandler/211.html: Package: musixtex Description: Typeset music scores with TeX This package contains the MusiXTeX macros, musixflex, MusiXTeX User's Manual in LaTeX source and DVI formats, and example source MusiXTeX music score files. Package: musixlyr Description: a MusiXTeX extension for handling lyrics musixlyr is a set of TeX macros to be used with Taupin MusiXTeX (version T.52 or later) for typesetting vocal music. Its purpose is to compensate two drawbacks of MusiXTeX's lyrics handling: Looks promising, but the learning curve appears to be a right-angle. From page 2 of the manual: If you are not familiar with TEX at all I would recommend to ï¬nd another software package to do musical typesetting. Setting up TEX and MusiXTEX on your machine and mastering it is an awesome job which gobbles up a lot of your time and disk space. But, once you master it... Hans Kuykens I tried to find a _simple_ Step1-Step2-Step3 to go from a blank text file to a finished one-liner staff, but either my googling capabilities are inadequate, or as is typical of much Free software, the folks who know how to do stuff never bother to write for those who don't. (Don't get me wrong; I very much appreciate the efforts of the developers of Free software, etc; it just sometimes gets frustrating when you're coming in as a total newb, which I am when it comes to TeX and friends.) Thanks, though! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Kent West: Looks promising, but the learning curve appears to be a right-angle. From page 2 of the manual: If you are not familiar with TEX at all I would recommend to find another software package to do musical typesetting. Setting up TEX and MusiXTEX on your machine and mastering it is an awesome job which gobbles up a lot of your time and disk space. But, once you master it... Hans Kuykens At least the part about the setup most probably does not apply to Debian at all, since the packages should just work out of the box. J. -- Atrocities committed in Rwanda pervade my mind when I am discussing mundanities with acquaintances. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
OT: LaTeX with monospace material
(Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian question.) I've been using OpenOffice.org to produce paper copies of songs written for guitar, but with all the talk about LaTeX on this list lately, I got to wondering if it might be a better product. The material looks like standard guitar tabs you'd find on the web, like this, from http://www.guitaretab.com/a/adam-sandler/211.html: ADAM SANDLER THE WEDDING SINGER VOL.2 GROW OLD WITH YOU Transcribed by BEB 910 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Verse 1 A I wanna make you smile Bm Whenever you're sad C#m Carry you around D When your arthritis is bad A E All I wanna do is D A E Grow old with you. Verse 2 A I'll get you medicine Bm When your tummy aches C#m Build you a fire D When the furnace breaks AE It could be so nice D AA7 Growing old with you. Chorus D I'll miss you I'll kiss you A Give you my coat when you are cold D Need you Feed you E(hold) E D Even let you hold the remote control Verse 3 A Let me do the dishes Bm In our kitchen sink C#m Put you to bed D When you've had too much to drink A E I could be the man who DA Grows old with you E DA I wanna grow old with you What I'm concerned about is the chord names (A, D, etc) need to line up with the word where the chords change, which means exact placement will be necessary. I currently do this in OO.o with a monospace font and manually spacing over to where the chord name goes. The songs will be one (or maybe two or three short ones) to a page, with a few taking two or three pages. The pages won't be numbered, but I will want them in alphabetical order by category (mine, Christmas songs, Country songs, etc), and then a table of contents. This way I can add a new song/page without having to re-print the entire book of songs; I can just print the one song and the newly-generated table of contents, and then replace the current TOC in my book with the new one and put the new song/page into the proper place alphabetically into the book. My basic question is this: Is LaTeX suitable for this sort of document? And my second question: Is the learning curve going to be worth it, or should I just stick to OO.o which pretty much does the job already? Thanks! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks Kevin, your example below worked perfectly. I didn't have a chance to
try yours Jim, because I liked the idea of not needing external packages.
Thanks again to everyone who helped out. Just marvellous ;-).
Byron Hillis
From: Kevin Buhr
-START OF EXAMPLE-
\documentclass{article}
\makeatletter
\newlength\marginrulewidth
\marginrulewidth=0.4pt
\marginparsep=3em
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\kern.5\marginparsep\kern-.5\marginrulewidth}}\oldoutputpage}
\makeatother
\begin{document}
\noindent
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
Body Text Body Text% \marginpar{Marginpar} Body Text Body
Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body
Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body
Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
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Byron Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A quick Q for a Latex document layout. I want a single
column output, but on the right hand side I want a line
that separates the \marginpar notes from the rest of the
text. Like this
Body Text Body Text Body Text |
Body Text Body Text Body Text |
Body Text Body Text Body Text | MarginPar
Body Text Body Text Body Text |
The following should do what you want and doesn't require any special
LaTeX packages. You can adjust the \marginrulewidth and \marginparsep
parameters at the top: the \marginparsep is the separation between the
text and marginpars, and a rule of width \marginrulewidth will be
placed in the middle of that separation.
-START OF EXAMPLE-
\documentclass{article}
\makeatletter
\newlength\marginrulewidth
\marginrulewidth=0.4pt
\marginparsep=3em
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\vrule width\marginrulewidth
\kern.5\marginparsep\kern-.5\marginrulewidth}}\oldoutputpage}
\makeatother
\begin{document}
\noindent
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text%
\marginpar{Marginpar}
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
\end{document}
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Re: [Bit OT]: Latex Gurus?
Kevin Buhr wrote:
Byron Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A quick Q for a Latex document layout. I want a single
column output, but on the right hand side I want a line
that separates the \marginpar notes from the rest of the
text. Like this
Body Text Body Text Body Text |
Body Text Body Text Body Text |
Body Text Body Text Body Text | MarginPar
Body Text Body Text Body Text |
The following should do what you want and doesn't require any special
LaTeX packages. You can adjust the \marginrulewidth and \marginparsep
parameters at the top: the \marginparsep is the separation between the
text and marginpars, and a rule of width \marginrulewidth will be
placed in the middle of that separation.
-START OF EXAMPLE-
\documentclass{article}
\makeatletter
\newlength\marginrulewidth
\marginrulewidth=0.4pt
\marginparsep=3em
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\kern.5\marginparsep\kern-.5\marginrulewidth
\vrule width\marginrulewidth
\kern.5\marginparsep\kern-.5\marginrulewidth}}\oldoutputpage}
\makeatother
\begin{document}
\noindent
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text%
\marginpar{Marginpar}
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
Body Text Body Text Body Text Body Text
\end{document}
-END OF EXAMPLE-
Works very nicely!
Thanks!
H
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Byron Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all,
Just wanting to tap into some of the wide-ranging knowledge
available on this list.
A quick Q for a Latex document layout. I want a single
column output, but on the right hand side I want a line
that separates the \marginpar notes from the rest of the
text. Like this
Body Text Body Text Body Text |
Body Text Body Text Body Text |
Body Text Body Text Body Text | MarginPar
Body Text Body Text Body Text |
I've googled like hell, but I'm not sure exactly what
I'm looking for. I want it on every page, so a picture
environment doesn't seem to be an option (but I could be
wrong). I was thinking maybe an image placed behind the
text with the line in the correct location, like a
watermark, and that lead me to find the eso-pic package,
but I couldn't get it to Compile when I used the
\AddToPictureShipout command.
I am not a LaTeX guru, but does this do what you want? It does use
the eso-pic package though.
Regards,
Jim Ottaway
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\usepackage{eso-pic}
\usepackage{calc}
\usepackage{ifthen}
\makeatletter
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\makeatother
\begin{document}
It is nothing but work, work, work. I cannot easily buy a blank book
to write thoughts in; they are commonly ruled for dollars and cents.
An Irishman, seeing me making a minute in the fields, took it for
granted that I was calculating my wages. If a man was tossed out of a
window when an infant, and so made a cripple for life, or scared out
of his wits by Indians, it is regretted chiefly because he was
incapacitated for---business! I think that there is nothing, not even
crime, more opposed to poetry\marginpar{A margin par}, to philosophy,
ay, to life itself, than this incessant business.
If my wants should be much more increased, the labour required to
supply them would become a drudgery. If I should sell both my
forenoons and afternoons to society, as most appear to do, I am sure
that for me there would be nothing left worth living for. I trust
that I shall never thus sell my life for a mere mess of pottage.
There is no greater blunderer than he who consumes the greater part of
his life securing his living.
The rush to California, for instance, and the attitude, not merely of
merchants, but of philosophers and prophets, so called, in relation to
it, reflect the greatest\marginpar{Another margin par} disgrace on
mankind. That so many are ready to live by luck, and so get the means
of commanding the labour of others less lucky, without contributing
any value to society! And that is called enterprise! I know of no more
startling development of the immorality of trade, and all the common
modes of getting a living. The philosophy and poetry and religion of
such a mankind are not worth the dust of a puffball. The hog that
gets his living by rooting, stirring up the soil, would be ashamed of
such company.
It makes God to be a moneyed gentleman who scatters a handful of
pennies in order to see mankind scramble for them. The world's
raffle! What a comment, what a satire, on our institutions!
A grain of gold will gild a great surface, but not so much as a grain
of wisdom.
The gold-digger in the ravines of he mountains is as much a gambler as
his fellow in the saloons of San What difference does it make, whether
you shake dirt or shake dice? If you win, society is the loser. The
gold-digger is the enemy of the honest labourer, whatever checks and
compensations there may be. It is not enough to tell me that you
worked hard to get your gold. So does the devil work hard. The way of
transgressors may be hard in many The humblest observer who goes to
the mines sees and says that gold-digging is of the character of a
lottery; the gold thus obtained is not the same thing with the wages
of honest toil. But, practically, he forgets what he has seen, for he
has seen only the fact, not the principle, and goes into trade
there---that is, buys a ticket in what commonly proves another
lottery, where the fact is not so obvious.
Shall the mind be a public arena, where the affairs of the street and
the gossip of the tea-table chiefly are discussed? Or shall it be a
quarter of heaven itself,---an hypethral temple, consecrated to the
service of the gods? I find it so difficult to dispose of the few
facts which to me are significant that I hesitate to burden my
attention with those which are insignificant, which only a
[Bit OT]: Latex Gurus?
Hi all, Just wanting to tap into some of the wide-ranging knowledge available on this list. A quick Q for a Latex document layout. I want a single column output, but on the right hand side I want a line that separates the \marginpar notes from the rest of the text. Like this Body Text Body Text Body Text | Body Text Body Text Body Text | Body Text Body Text Body Text | MarginPar Body Text Body Text Body Text | I've googled like hell, but I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for. I want it on every page, so a picture environment doesn't seem to be an option (but I could be wrong). I was thinking maybe an image placed behind the text with the line in the correct location, like a watermark, and that lead me to find the eso-pic package, but I couldn't get it to Compile when I used the \AddToPictureShipout command. I'm using PDFLatex to compile, on Sarge with a complete Tetex install. Thanks a lot for your time, Byron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 12:41:04AM +1000, Byron Hillis wrote: Hi all, Just wanting to tap into some of the wide-ranging knowledge available on this list. A quick Q for a Latex document layout. I want a single column output, but on the right hand side I want a line that separates the \marginpar notes from the rest of the text. Like this Body Text Body Text Body Text | Body Text Body Text Body Text | Body Text Body Text Body Text | MarginPar Body Text Body Text Body Text | I've googled like hell, but I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for. I want it on every page, so a picture environment doesn't seem to be an option (but I could be wrong). I was thinking maybe an image placed behind the text with the line in the correct location, like a watermark, and that lead me to find the eso-pic package, but I couldn't get it to Compile when I used the \AddToPictureShipout command. I'm using PDFLatex to compile, on Sarge with a complete Tetex install. I forget if the minipage environment is limnited to a single page, or if it can span multiple pages. If the latter, then that may be an option. If that doesn't work, there is a site [0] that descrides how to get a vertical bar that at least is as high as the text in the margin. -Roberto [0] http://web.reed.edu/cis/help/latexAdvanced.html#notes -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto pgpP6HXBOkW6H.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Roberto C. Sanchez said... I forget if the minipage environment is limnited to a single page, or if it can span multiple pages. If the latter, then that may be an option. Unfortunately, the minipage environment doesn't allow for placement of figures inline with the text, so it's not an option. I also think it is limited to a single page, but I'm only learning, so I might be very wrong. If that doesn't work, there is a site [0] that descrides how to get a vertical bar that at least is as high as the text in the margin. -Roberto [0] http://web.reed.edu/cis/help/latexAdvanced.html#notes Good reference. Unfortunately, I need the line to be all the way down the page. H...there's got to be a way. Thanks for the quick help and a bit more info. That's a good thing about debian-user, people all round the globe at any time willing to help each other. Byron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Bit OT]: Latex Gurus?
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 12:41:04AM +1000, Byron Hillis wrote:
} Hi all,
}
} Just wanting to tap into some of the wide-ranging knowledge
} available on this list.
}
} A quick Q for a Latex document layout. I want a single
} column output, but on the right hand side I want a line
} that separates the \marginpar notes from the rest of the
} text. Like this
}
} Body Text Body Text Body Text |
} Body Text Body Text Body Text |
} Body Text Body Text Body Text | MarginPar
} Body Text Body Text Body Text |
[...]
You might try using the supertabular package. It would allow you to create
a multipage table with an @p{\textwidth}| format.
} Thanks a lot for your time,
} Byron
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A nasty hack, but if there is at least one margin note per page then this
might work:
\marginpar{\rule[-2000cm]{1mm}{4000cm}Text goes here}
(I've never used LaTeX before so no clue if it will work). The idea is to
make the line next to the paragraph so long it covvers the whole page.
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[OT] LaTeX: KOMA-Script Problem
Hallo!
Ich habe ein Problem mit dem Koma-Script unter sarge. Die Ränder bzw.
Abstände oben und unten auf der Seite sind [1]sehr groß, besonders der
untere. Ich habe testweise auch mal den DIV-Faktor verändert, aber ohne
besondere Verbesserung.
Hier der Ausschnitt aus dem tex file:
1
\documentclass[a4paper,BCOR15mm,titlepage,footsepline,headsepline,twoside,12pt]{scrartcl}
2
3 \usepackage[german]{babel}
4 \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
5 \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
6 \usepackage{graphicx}
7 \usepackage[german]{varioref}
8 \usepackage{listings}
9 \usepackage{xcolor}
10 \usepackage{lmodern}
11 \usepackage{scrpage2}
12 \usepackage[bookmarks,bookmarksnumbered]{hyperref}
13
14 % some formating options
15 \setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
16
17 % headline on left pages: e.g. 1 First Chapter
18 \renewcommand{\sectionmark}[1]{\markboth{\thesection~#1}{}}
19 % headline on right pages: e.g. 1.1 Sub-chapter
20 \renewcommand{\subsectionmark}[1]{\markright{\thesubsection~#1}}
21
22 \pagestyle{scrheadings}
23 \clearscrheadfoot
24 % now set the headers and footers
25 \lehead{\rightmark}
26 \rehead{\leftmark}
27 \lohead{\leftmark}
28 \rohead{\rightmark}
29 \lefoot{\pagemark}
30 \rofoot{\pagemark}
31 \cfoot{Gerald Holl ~SE02030}
32 \refoot{Übung 1}
33 \lofoot{Übung 1}
Was mache ich falsch? Denn soweit ich weiß sollte ja mit dem Koma-Script
das Dokument ziemlich gut auf eine A4 Seite aufgeteilt sein.
cheers,
Gerald
[1] http://geraldholl.cc/download/sample.pdf
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Re: [OT] LaTeX: KOMA-Script Problem
Gerald Holl wrote:
Ich habe ein Problem mit dem Koma-Script unter sarge. Die Ränder bzw.
Abstände oben und unten auf der Seite sind [1]sehr groß, besonders der
untere. Ich habe testweise auch mal den DIV-Faktor verändert, aber ohne
besondere Verbesserung.
Um wie viel hast du denn den DIV-Faktor verändert? Im Abschnitt 2.2 des
scrguide ist beschrieben, wie das mit dem DIV-Faktor funktioniert. Wenn
du es ziemlich gequetscht haben willst, musst du schon auf DIV20 oder so
gehen. Aber ob das noch gut aussieht sei dann dahin gestellt.
Hier der Ausschnitt aus dem tex file:
1
\documentclass[a4paper,BCOR15mm,titlepage,footsepline,headsepline,twoside,12pt]{scrartcl}
^^^ ^ sind Voreinstellungen
3 \usepackage[german]{babel}
^^ nicht lieber 'ngerman'?
[usw]
Was mache ich falsch? Denn soweit ich weiß sollte ja mit dem Koma-Script
das Dokument ziemlich gut auf eine A4 Seite aufgeteilt sein.
Eigentlich machst du nix falsch. Jedoch ist das Layout eigentlich so
voreingestellt, dass der Text gut zu lesen ist, will heissen nicht zu
lange Zeilen usw. (dazu steht auch recht viel im scrguide, wenn du also
mal nix zu tun hast ;-)). Jedoch sind Veränderungen nicht verboten
(sonst gäbe es nicht die ganzen Optionen). Du kannst z.B. mit DIV das
Layout so ändern, wie du meinst dass es gut aussieht. Dann musst du
jedoch auch dafür den Kopf hinhalten wenns anderen nicht passt ;-) Ist
halt auch viel Geschmackssache dabei.
Für weitere Fragen bzgl. LaTeX und KOMA-Skript kann ich dir nur
de.comp.text.tex ans Herz legen. Jedoch vorher am besten in deren FAQ
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/ schauen, ob darin schon was über
dein Problem steht.
Falls es damit nicht gelöst wird, am besten ein Minimalbeispiel
konstruieren (wie das geht kannst du unter
http://www.latex-einfuehrung.de/ nachlesen). Damit findest du evtl.
schon selber den Fehler bzw. kannst ihn besser einkreisen und die
Anderen können dir besser helfen (und tun es auch lieber, da sie selber
nur den Code per copypaste übernehmen und kompilieren brauchen, also
selber weniger Arbeit beim Helfen haben)
Das letzte hatte jetzt mit deiner Frage nicht so wirklich viel zu tun,
aber ein bisschen Vorbereitung auf dctt kann nicht schaden ;-)
Grüße
Christoph
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Re: [OT] LaTeX: KOMA-Script Problem
Am Sonntag, 25. Juli 2004 16:21 schrieb Gerald Holl: Was mache ich falsch? du hast nicht den scrguide.pdf gelesen, hier insbesondere Kapitel 2 Satzspiegelkonstruktion, dann kann ich Dir auch noch http://people.freenet.de/kohm/markus/komasatzspiegel.pdf ans Herz legen. Denn soweit ich weiß sollte ja mit dem Koma-Script das Dokument ziemlich gut auf eine A4 Seite aufgeteilt sein. genau, die Aufteilung soll *gut* sein :) d.h. *gut* unter typographischen Gesichtspunkten. Andreas
Re: [OT] LaTeX: KOMA-Script Problem
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3 \usepackage[german]{babel}
^^ nicht lieber 'ngerman'?
babel ist nur bei mehrsprachigen Dokumenten notwendig. Für einfach
deutschsprachige Texte genügt auch das Paket ngerman respektive german.
\usepackage{ngerman}
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[OT] Latex Q - page number appears on pg 1 with empty pagestyle
I am writing a document with latex using the article document
class. The problem is that when setting \pagestyle{empty} either in
the preamble or after the \begin{document} I still get a page number on
the first page. Since there are guidelines for submitting this one this
is a big no no.
Any idea on how to get read of this page number (I don't mind hacking
into the style files if needed, but I don't know raw tex so a little
help can go a lot of way)
This is the version from unstable.
Thanx
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Re: [OT] Latex Q - page number appears on pg 1 with empty pagestyle
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 05:03:25AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
I am writing a document with latex using the article document
class. The problem is that when setting \pagestyle{empty} either in
the preamble or after the \begin{document} I still get a page number on
the first page. Since there are guidelines for submitting this one this
is a big no no.
Any idea on how to get read of this page number (I don't mind hacking
into the style files if needed, but I don't know raw tex so a little
help can go a lot of way)
This is the version from unstable.
Have you tried \thispagestyle{empty}
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Re: [OT] Latex Q - page number appears on pg 1 with empty pagestyle
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 05:03:25AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
| I am writing a document with latex using the article document
| class. The problem is that when setting \pagestyle{empty} either in
| the preamble or after the \begin{document} I still get a page number on
| the first page.
Odd, isn't it?
| Since there are guidelines for submitting this one this
| is a big no no.
| Any idea on how to get read of this page number (I don't mind hacking
| into the style files if needed, but I don't know raw tex so a little
| help can go a lot of way)
I have a template that vim automatically inserts into a new .tex
buffer. It looks roughly like this (it actually has more boilerplate
in it, and a lot of stuff I just want available but usually delete) :
\documentclass[dvips,12pt,letterpaper]{article}
% block style alignment with manual indentation possible
\newlength{\DSHindent} \setlength{\DSHindent}{\parindent}
\newcommand{\Nest}[1]{\\ \mbox{\hspace{#1\DSHindent}}}
\setlength{\parindent}{0in}
\setlength{\parskip}{9pt}
%\pagestyle{empty} % no page numbers
\begin{document}
\title{*title*}
\author{Derrick Hudson}
\maketitle
\thispagestyle{empty} % no number on the title page
\cleardoublepage
\end{document}
As you can see, I explicitly set \thispagestyle{empty} on the title
page (page 1) and then uncomment the \pagestyle{empty} line in the
preamble if I really don't want page numbers.
I don't know why the page number is still put on the first page, but
explicitly avoiding it works.
-D
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OT: LaTeX problem w/ upside-down slides
(I apologize for the off-topic post but I know there are LaTeX users around and this is a bit of an emergency.) Help! I haven't used the seminar package for a year or so; now, when creating the slides for a class lecture tomorrow, suddenly all slides come out upside-down. This happens with using latex-dvips-ps2pdf or latex-dvipdf. Using pdflatex generates non-landscape slides in a corner of the page. I know this didn't happen before, even on the same computer. Any advice? Thanks. -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Andrew == Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrew (I apologize for the off-topic post but I know there are LaTeX Andrew users around and this is a bit of an emergency.) Andrew Help! I haven't used the seminar package for a year or so; now, Andrew when creating the slides for a class lecture tomorrow, suddenly Andrew all slides come out upside-down. This happens with using Andrew latex-dvips-ps2pdf or latex- dvipdf. Using pdflatex generates non-landscape slides in a Andrew corner of the page. Is the ps file upside down too? Which viewer are you using? All the pdf viewers that I know of will let you rotate the page. If you're using acrobat, you'll need a recent version (not the one in Debian, which is no longer maintained and was removed recently). In Xpdf, you should be able to get a menu by clicking the right button. In gv, click on the Landscape button, and either select Seascape, or Swap landscape. -- Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.uhoreg.ca/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/124B61FA Fingerprint: 96C5 012F 5F74 A5F7 1FF7 5291 AF29 C719 124B 61FA Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. msg22939/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] latex, pdflatex and graphics formats
On 0, J?rg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everybody
For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. The problem I
have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and
.ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png
for pdflatex in order to use them. The other way round, normal LaTeX
does not understand the .png format, so any photos or scanned-in images
have to be converted into .ps. My question now is: Are there any
\usepackage{s} for making use of .ps in pdflatex and .png in LaTeX?
Anything better than
for i in *.eps; do convert $i `echo $i | sed s/.eps/.png/`
?
There is a script around called tex2pdf that I use that does it all
for you. It converts your eps and ps docs to epdf and pdf and then
runs pdflatex for you, cleans things up and everything, even generates
bookmark lists from your table of contents. Can't remember where I
found it, but I used google, so you can probable find it there too.
Regards
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Re: [Fwd: Re: [OT] latex, pdflatex and graphics formats]
Hello Jerome the LaTeX package `epstopdf' allows to convert PostScript files on the fly: you should find it at your favorite CTAN site in the folder: CTAN:/macros/latex/contrib/supported/oberliek or somethinh lik that. This looks very promising, I have to check it out. But wait... this should be oberDiek not oberLiek. Thanks joerg -- Gib GATES keine Chance! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am very sorry for the misspelling, so let me try again: you can find the `epstopdf.sty' LaTeX STY file in the drectory `/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/oberdiek' Bye, Jerome Jörg Johannes wrote: Hello Jerome the LaTeX package `epstopdf' allows to convert PostScript files on the fly: you should find it at your favorite CTAN site in the folder: CTAN:/macros/latex/contrib/supported/oberliek or somethinh lik that. This looks very promising, I have to check it out. But wait... this should be oberDiek not oberLiek. Thanks joerg -- Gib GATES keine Chance! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jörg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi everybody
For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. The problem I
have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and
.ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png
for pdflatex in order to use them. The other way round, normal LaTeX
does not understand the .png format, so any photos or scanned-in
images have to be converted into .ps. My question now is: Are there
any \usepackage{s} for making use of .ps in pdflatex and .png in
LaTeX? Anything better than
for i in *.eps; do convert $i `echo $i | sed s/.eps/.png/`
?
I use the graphicx package to include file. Depending on the command
you use to compile your latex file (eg. pdflatex or latex), the
package will look for foo.eps or foo.pdf :
\usepackage{graphicx} % mind the x not s
\includegraphics{foo} % note no .eps or .pdf suffix
You can create the pdf file with pstopdf.
HTH
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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:03:55 +0200
From: Jerome BENOIT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jörg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi everybody
For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. The problem I
have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and
.ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png
for pdflatex in order to use them. The other way round, normal LaTeX
does not understand the .png format, so any photos or scanned-in
images have to be converted into .ps. My question now is: Are there
any \usepackage{s} for making use of .ps in pdflatex and .png in
LaTeX? Anything better than
for i in *.eps; do convert $i `echo $i | sed s/.eps/.png/`
?
I use the graphicx package to include file. Depending on the command
you use to compile your latex file (eg. pdflatex or latex), the
package will look for foo.eps or foo.pdf :
\usepackage{graphicx} % mind the x not s
\includegraphics{foo} % note no .eps or .pdf suffix
You can create the pdf file with pstopdf.
the LaTeX package `epstopdf' allows to convert PostScript files on the
fly: you should find it at your favorite CTAN site
in the folder:
CTAN:/macros/latex/contrib/supported/oberliek
or somethinh lik that.
I hope that helps,
Jerome
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[OT] latex, pdflatex and graphics formats
Hi everybody
For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. The problem I
have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and
.ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png
for pdflatex in order to use them. The other way round, normal LaTeX
does not understand the .png format, so any photos or scanned-in images
have to be converted into .ps. My question now is: Are there any
\usepackage{s} for making use of .ps in pdflatex and .png in LaTeX?
Anything better than
for i in *.eps; do convert $i `echo $i | sed s/.eps/.png/`
?
Thanks
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Re: [OT] latex, pdflatex and graphics formats
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 01:42:35PM +0100, Jörg Johannes wrote:
For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. The problem I
have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and
.ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png
for pdflatex in order to use them. The other way round, normal LaTeX
does not understand the .png format, so any photos or scanned-in images
have to be converted into .ps. My question now is: Are there any
\usepackage{s} for making use of .ps in pdflatex and .png in LaTeX?
Anything better than
for i in *.eps; do convert $i `echo $i | sed s/.eps/.png/`
?
To solve this problem I use this in my template (I can't remember
whether this list or the latex newsgroup helped me with it):
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\newif\ifpdf
\ifx\pdfoutput\undefined
\pdffalse
\documentclass[dvips,12pt,a4paper]{article}
\else
\pdfoutput=1 \let\special\message
\pdftrue
\documentclass[pdftex,12pt,a4paper]{article}
\fi
\ifpdf
\usepackage[hyperindex=true]{hyperref}
\usepackage{pslatex}
\pdfcompresslevel=9
\else
\usepackage[dvips]{graphicx}
\usepackage[hypertex,hyperindex=true,colorlinks=false]{hyperref}
\fi
\begin{document} % End of preamble and beginning of text.
\ifpdf
\DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.png,.pdf,.jpeg,.jpg,.mps}
\else
\DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.eps,.ps}
\fi
\end{document} % End of document
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:42:35 +0100, Jörg Johannes wrote:
Hi everybody
For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. The problem I
have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and
.ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png
for pdflatex in order to use them. The other way round, normal LaTeX
does not understand the .png format, so any photos or scanned-in images
have to be converted into .ps. My question now is: Are there any
\usepackage{s} for making use of .ps in pdflatex and .png in LaTeX?
Anything better than
for i in *.eps; do convert $i `echo $i | sed s/.eps/.png/`
I've had trouble a time or two with pdflatex (but hadn't really
associated it with ps/eps :} ). My solution has been to use ps2pdf[x]
or dvipdf to yield the pdf files. Of course, I'm talking fairly small
files, so I have no feel for the time the double processing would take
on a large file.
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Re: [OT] latex, pdflatex and graphics formats
Hello Johann
I'm not sure if we understand each other. I'll ask you what is unclear
in comments below:
Johann Spies schrieb:
\newif\ifpdf
\ifx\pdfoutput\undefined
\pdffalse
\documentclass[dvips,12pt,a4paper]{article}
\else
\pdfoutput=1 \let\special\message
\pdftrue
\documentclass[pdftex,12pt,a4paper]{article}
\fi
This determines if I run pdflatex file.tex or latex file.tex and changes
the documentclass accordingly, right? Cool, I always had to do that by
hand.
\ifpdf
\usepackage[hyperindex=true]{hyperref}
\usepackage{pslatex}
\pdfcompresslevel=9
\else
\usepackage[dvips]{graphicx}
\usepackage[hypertex,hyperindex=true,colorlinks=false]{hyperref}
\fi
\begin{document} % End of preamble and beginning of text.
\ifpdf
\DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.png,.pdf,.jpeg,.jpg,.mps}
This is my point: I want to be able to put
\includegraphics{outfile-of-gnuplot} (this means outfile-of-gnuplot.eps)
in the text without having to convert it from .eps to .png. (Or am I too
silly to see that .mps stands for .ps and .eps?)
\else
\DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.eps,.ps}
Same here: \includegraphics{scanned-image} won't find scanned-image.png,
will it?
\fi
\end{document} % End of document
Sorry I'm not sitting in front of my own box, no latex here, so no
chance to try it out at the moment.
I will try this evening and come back to you tomorow. Thanks so far
joerg
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On 26/11/02 J?rg Johannes did speaketh:
Hi everybody
For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. The problem I
have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and
.ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png
for pdflatex in order to use them. The other way round, normal LaTeX
does not understand the .png format, so any photos or scanned-in images
have to be converted into .ps. My question now is: Are there any
\usepackage{s} for making use of .ps in pdflatex and .png in LaTeX?
Anything better than
for i in *.eps; do convert $i `echo $i | sed s/.eps/.png/`
?
Personally, I use just LaTeX, and then convert my .dvi file with dvipdfm.
It does a great job, and I don't have to juggle two different graphics formats
or worry about the quirks of pdfLaTeX vs. LaTeX.
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Re: [OT] latex, pdflatex and graphics formats
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 02:31:47PM +0100, Jörg Johannes wrote:
Hello Johann
I'm not sure if we understand each other. I'll ask you what is unclear
in comments below:
Johann Spies schrieb:
\newif\ifpdf
\ifx\pdfoutput\undefined
\pdffalse
\documentclass[dvips,12pt,a4paper]{article}
\else
\pdfoutput=1 \let\special\message
\pdftrue
\documentclass[pdftex,12pt,a4paper]{article}
\fi
This determines if I run pdflatex file.tex or latex file.tex and changes
the documentclass accordingly, right? Cool, I always had to do that by
hand.
Yes. This was not related to your question but I find it handy to
have so I thought it might help somebody else.
\ifpdf
\usepackage[hyperindex=true]{hyperref}
\usepackage{pslatex}
\pdfcompresslevel=9
\else
\usepackage[dvips]{graphicx}
\usepackage[hypertex,hyperindex=true,colorlinks=false]{hyperref}
\fi
\begin{document} % End of preamble and beginning of text.
\ifpdf
\DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.png,.pdf,.jpeg,.jpg,.mps}
This is my point: I want to be able to put
\includegraphics{outfile-of-gnuplot} (this means outfile-of-gnuplot.eps)
in the text without having to convert it from .eps to .png. (Or am I too
silly to see that .mps stands for .ps and .eps?)
I think .mps is a metapost format
(http://www.2pi.info/latex/Includingeps.html)
I don't think you can do it without converting the image.
\else
\DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.eps,.ps}
Same here: \includegraphics{scanned-image} won't find scanned-image.png,
will it?
\fi
This enables me to just specify
\includegraphics {image} with no need for image.eps or emage.jpeg or whatever.
Now I can run either Latex or pdflatex on the file without changing
the \includegraphics line.
Regards.
Johann
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jörg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. Me too. The problem I have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and .ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png for pdflatex in order to use them. Why do you want to convert them to PNG? The quality would be quite bad. You should convert the EPS files to PDF with epstopdf, and PS files to PDF with ps2pdf. I've also tried converting the PS file generated by latex + dvips with ps2pdf, but the quality of small fonts is very bad (though I can zoom without any problem). dvipdf merely calls ps2pdf, so this is no better. dvipdfm gives documents with good quality, but there are problems with the fonts: some characters like « and » (used in French) are replaced by other characters. So, the only solution is to use pdflatex after some conversions. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] latex, pdflatex and graphics formats
Hi {pdf,}LaTeX Fans !
There is a package written by Oberdiek which does the job:
`epstopdf'
Read the comments before to use it.
Otherwise,
I guess that this list is not the proper one for pure TeX issue.
I hope that helps,
Jerome
Jörg Johannes wrote:
Hi everybody
For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. The problem I
have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and
.ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png
for pdflatex in order to use them. The other way round, normal LaTeX
does not understand the .png format, so any photos or scanned-in images
have to be converted into .ps. My question now is: Are there any
\usepackage{s} for making use of .ps in pdflatex and .png in LaTeX?
Anything better than
for i in *.eps; do convert $i `echo $i | sed s/.eps/.png/`
?
Thanks
joerg
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On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 13:42, Jörg Johannes wrote:
Hi everybody
For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. The problem I
have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and
.ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png
for pdflatex in order to use them. The other way round, normal LaTeX
does not understand the .png format, so any photos or scanned-in images
have to be converted into .ps. My question now is: Are there any
\usepackage{s} for making use of .ps in pdflatex and .png in LaTeX?
Anything better than
for i in *.eps; do convert $i `echo $i | sed s/.eps/.png/`
?
You should really consider converting them to pdf, not to png, using
epstopdf. Maybe you could do this during the LaTeX run by clever
use of \DeclareGraphicsRule (i am thinking of something like
\DeclareGraphicsRule{.eps}{.pdf}{.eps.bb}{epstopdf ...}, as you do with
gzipped eps files - i did NOT try this!).
If you have a lot of pictures, your LaTeX runs will last very loong
- but why should you convert ALL of the pictures EVERY time you run
LaTeX?
I would use a Makefile like
-[snip!]---
FROM = $(subst .eps,.pdf, $(wildcard *.eps))
all:: $(FROM)
%.pdf: %.eps
epstopdf $ $@
-[snip!]---
to convert only the eps files that changed to pdf. You can also use a
makefile for running LaTeX on you .tex documents ... experiment!
HTH, Stefan
Thanks
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Re: [OT] latex, pdflatex and graphics formats
Hi Stefan I really like the makefile approach, but I will have to read the make-nutshell book before I understand what the snipped you gave me really does... Thanks anyway. joerg snip I would use a Makefile like -[snip!]--- FROM = $(subst .eps,.pdf, $(wildcard *.eps)) all:: $(FROM) %.pdf: %.eps epstopdf $ $@ -[snip!]--- to convert only the eps files that changed to pdf. You can also use a makefile for running LaTeX on you .tex documents ... experiment! /snip -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] LaTeX and Zapf Chancery fonts
on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:01:53PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote:
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Can some one please send my an example on how to specify the pzc or the uzc
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driving my Mad.
\fontfamily{pzc}\fontshape{it}\selectfont test
Thanks, I had \fontfamily right but wasn't using \fontshape
You've save my sanity
Cheers
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Can some one please send my an example on how to specify the pzc or the uzc fonts in a default Debian teTeX install, I can't figure it out and it's driving my Mad. Thanks ( and good Karma to any replys) joel
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Can some one please send my an example on how to specify the pzc or the uzc
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\fontfamily{pzc}\fontshape{it}\selectfont test
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Re: [OT] LaTeX and \input{file}
or use
\usepackage{verbatim}
...
\verbatiminput{filename.txt}
this package also provides the comment environment which is good for
big comment blocks.
tom
Re: [OT] LaTeX and \input{file}
You could see if the fancyvrb package on CTAN helps with this - it's an
interesting catch-22 since the verbatim environment doesn't allow for any
includes. I suppose a quick fix would be to add \begin{verbatim} and
\end{verbatim} lines to the file being included, but that pollutes your
original file, not a good thing.
You might find it more useful to ask in comp.text.tex, since the sets of
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Johannes [ISO-8859-1] J?rg wrote:
Hi List
I need to input a file as raw text (every linbreak must be a linebreak,
there are some backslashes in it etc.)
I tried \input[verbatim]{file}, but this does not what I want it to (It
gives an error message instead ;-) )
The problem is: I do not want to make a second copy of the file where I
could put a \begin{verbatim} at the beginning and an \end{verbatim} at the
end.
Including the whole text is not good, because this does not improve the
readability of the .tex file.
Any idea?
thanks
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Hi List
I need to input a file as raw text (every linbreak must be a linebreak,
there are some backslashes in it etc.)
I tried \input[verbatim]{file}, but this does not what I want it to (It
gives an error message instead ;-) )
The problem is: I do not want to make a second copy of the file where I
could put a \begin{verbatim} at the beginning and an \end{verbatim} at the end.
Including the whole text is not good, because this does not improve the
readability of the .tex file.
Any idea?
thanks
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Johannes == Johannes Jörg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Johannes I need to input a file as raw text (every linbreak must
Johannes be a linebreak, there are some backslashes in it etc.)
Johannes I tried \input[verbatim]{file}, but this does not what I
Johannes want it to (It gives an error message instead ;-) ) The
Johannes problem is: I do not want to make a second copy of the
Johannes file where I could put a \begin{verbatim} at the
Johannes beginning and an \end{verbatim} at the end. Including
Johannes the whole text is not good, because this does not
Johannes improve the readability of the .tex file. Any idea?
There is a package called verbatimfile, which I believe will do everything
you want.
I have:
%\usepackage{verbatimfile}
at the top of my file. Remove the comment character at the start.
unfortunately, it has been ages since I last used it. I think you do
something like
\verbatimfile{filename.txt}
to include the file, but not sure what the command is called. I
suspect there might be documentation somewhere in tetex-doc.
Also, beware, as IIRC, it can't properly handle special characters
(eg. TABs, which I had to expand out first). Always check to make sure
it comes out as expected, with no errors.
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[OT?] LaTeX fonts in X?
Hi List Aren't the LaTeX fonts scalable post-script fonts? I wonder if it is possible to use, say, the cm-family font just like normal X-fonts, eg. for the GIMP. The idea comes from my need for images containing text. Using these images in Latex looks ugly if they use other fonts than the LaTeX-style. So, is it possible to include the ...texmf...fonts... directories in the X fontpath? thanks joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: [OT?] LaTeX fonts in X?
Joerg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JJ Aren't the LaTeX fonts scalable post-script fonts?
Not generally; they use a meta-language called METAFONT, which
includes much more information than PostScript fonts use. (For
example, 5-point Computer Modern scaled to 20 points looks much
different from 20-point CM.) You can use PostScript fonts from within
TeX, but you can't necessarily use TeX fonts in the wider world.
JJ I wonder if it is possible to use, say, the cm-family font just
JJ like normal X-fonts, eg. for the GIMP. The idea comes from my
JJ need for images containing text. Using these images in Latex
JJ looks ugly if they use other fonts than the LaTeX-style.
There are a couple of options for this. I'd suggest using PostScript
fonts in your document (e.g. \usepackage{times})[1]; then you can use
a matching or appropriate font in your figures. (For example,
Helvetica looks much less odd against other PostScript fonts than
against Computer Modern.) I'd also suggest using something other than
the GIMP for most figures, since GIMP only deals with pixelated
images. Depending on what you're doing, xfig, tgif, and xcircuit are
all good choices that can produce encapsulated PostScript files as
output.
[1] In all honesty, I think the Computer Modern fonts are somewhat
ugly, and kind of like Palatino. This means that most of my LaTeX
documents have \usepackage{palatino} somewhere in the preamble.
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