Re: CDE (Common Desktop Environment)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jose C. Kraus wrote: Muy buenas lista, alguien me puede decir como instalar el entorno de escritorio CDE (Common Desktop Environment)en debian, he estado echándole un vistazo y me ha gustado realmente. http://www.opengroup.org/cde/ Si lees: http://www.opengroup.org/desktop/faq/#RTFToC11 te daras cuenta que si lo que pides es un paquete .deb, no es sencillo que lo consigas. Busca por google, hay muchos escritorios estilo CDE - motif libres. Por otro lado, si buscas un escritorio asi: http://www.opengroup.org/desktop/motif.html Instala y prueba fwm. Venga muchas gracias. - -- Ricardo A.Frydman Consultor en Tecnología Open Source - Administrador de Sistemas jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.eureka-linux.com.ar SIP # 1-747-667-9534 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEHqnvkw12RhFuGy4RAnrtAJ0fisOdCfQx6jwwP8tbuUru4VR2aACffQSP CqxvuZo9HcMaAO2cHe7J7HE= =I9Bl -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: CDE (Common Desktop Environment)
Le Lundi 20 Mars 2006 14:11, Ricardo Frydman Eureka! a écrit : Jose C. Kraus wrote: Muy buenas lista, alguien me puede decir como instalar el entorno de escritorio CDE (Common Desktop Environment)en debian, he estado echándole un vistazo y me ha gustado realmente. http://www.opengroup.org/cde/ xfce ? http://www.xfce.org/index.php?lang=es -- Claude Micouin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://astuce.linux.free.fr Por favor, no adjunte documentos en formatos doc o ppt, sino en algún formato estándar como html, pdf, rtf o txt. Gracias. Cf: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html
Re: CDE (Common Desktop Environment)
Ricardo con fecha lunes, 20 de marzo de 2006, 14:11:11, escribió: Si lees: http://www.opengroup.org/desktop/faq/#RTFToC11 te daras cuenta que si lo que pides es un paquete .deb, no es sencillo que lo consigas. Busca por google, hay muchos escritorios estilo CDE - motif libres. Por otro lado, si buscas un escritorio asi: http://www.opengroup.org/desktop/motif.html Instala y prueba fwm. Muchas gracias, probaré lo que dices. Gracias denuevo.
CDE (Common Desktop Environment)
Muy buenas lista, alguien me puede decir como instalar el entorno de escritorio CDE (Common Desktop Environment)en debian, he estado echándole un vistazo y me ha gustado realmente. http://www.opengroup.org/cde/ Venga muchas gracias.
Re: [HS] soft en C++ fonctionne avec WMaker, mais pas sous CDE ou KDE ??
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 06:52:59PM +0200, Erwann Thoraval wrote: Que se passe-t-il en mode console si tu fais un: export MALLOC_CHECK=1 avant de lancer ton programme? /Y - fauteur de segments Ah, dans ce cas, le programme ne marche plus (ie, il se comporte comme avec Konsole ou dtterm). Ca viendrait donc de cette variable ? A quoi sert-elle ? (au fait, comment fait-on pour supprimer une variable d'environnement, parce que là, je suis obligé de me déloguer/reloguer pour que ça fonctionne à nouveau). unset MALLOC_CHECK_ fait un man malloc, qui devrait t'expliquer un peu ce qui se passe. En fait, ton programme ne marche jamais correctement , il fait semblant de marcher sous console, corrompt le tas, et il se trouve que l'usage de mémoire sous console ne l'empèche pas de marcher... alors que l'usage de mémoire sous KDE l'empèche. Ça n'est donc pas la faute de KDE, mais bien de ton programme. En fait, tu ne devrais jamais développer en C/C++ et autres langages où la gestion de la mémoire se fait à la main, sans avoir cette variable d'environnement à 1. Ça attrappe quelques erreurs à l'avance. (Évidemment, l'idéal est d'utiliser un langage plus avancé tel que Perl, Python, OCaml ou autre, et de laisser la gestion de la mémoire à ceux qui n'ont rien de mieux à faire). /Y - segmenteur de troubles -- Marbles should be kept together.
Re: [HS] soft en C++ fonctionne avec WMaker, mais pas sous CDE ou KDE ??
Le Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:47:51 +0100 Yves Rutschle [EMAIL PROTECTED] nous a écrit: On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 06:52:59PM +0200, Erwann Thoraval wrote: Que se passe-t-il en mode console si tu fais un: export MALLOC_CHECK=1 avant de lancer ton programme? /Y - fauteur de segments Ah, dans ce cas, le programme ne marche plus (ie, il se comporte comme avec Konsole ou dtterm). Ca viendrait donc de cette variable ? A quoi sert-elle ? (au fait, comment fait-on pour supprimer une variable d'environnement, parce que là, je suis obligé de me déloguer/reloguer pour que ça fonctionne à nouveau). unset MALLOC_CHECK_ fait un man malloc, qui devrait t'expliquer un peu ce qui se passe. En fait, ton programme ne marche jamais correctement , il fait semblant de marcher sous console, corrompt le tas, et il se trouve que l'usage de mémoire sous console ne l'empèche pas de marcher... alors que l'usage de mémoire sous KDE l'empèche. Ça n'est donc pas la faute de KDE, mais bien de ton programme. En fait, tu ne devrais jamais développer en C/C++ et autres langages où la gestion de la mémoire se fait à la main, sans avoir cette variable d'environnement à 1. Ça attrappe quelques erreurs à l'avance. (Évidemment, l'idéal est d'utiliser un langage plus avancé tel que Perl, Python, OCaml ou autre, et de laisser la gestion de la mémoire à ceux qui n'ont rien de mieux à faire). OK merci, je vais aller consulter la page de manuel. Je viens effectivement de voir mon erreur : j'utilisais des méthodes qui, dans leur prototype, devaient renvoyer quelquechose. Mais certaines fois, je ne passais pas dans ma boucle principale et je n'avais pas mis d'instruction return. Du coup, la méthode ne renvoyait rien. J'ai mis des return partout où il fallait, et maintenant ça fonctinne correctement. Encore merci. Erwann -- Il y a un marché mondial d'environ 5 ordinateurs -+- T. Watson, Président d'IBM, 1943 -+-
[HS] soft en C++ fonctionne avec WMaker, mais pas sous CDE ou KDE ??
Bonjour à tous, Désolé pour le hors-sujet, mais quelqu'un va peut-être pouvoir m'aider. J'ai réalisé un mini parseur/interpréteur voiceXML et j'ai rencontré un drôle de problème à la première étape, celle qui consiste à vérifier que le document XML est bien formé. En effet, mon programme fonctionne très bien en mode console, ou dans une fenêtre xterm sous WindowMaker. En revanche, il ne fonctionne pas dans une fenête dtterm (CDE) ou dans un Konsole (KDE) (il commence bien puis boucle sans fin en plein milieu, sortie par ctrl-c). J'avoue que je n'y comprends pas grand chose. Erwann Thoraval -- Mourir, ce n'est rien. Commence donc par vivre. C'est moins drôle et c'est plus long. Jean Anouilh
Re: [HS] soft en C++ fonctionne avec WMaker, mais pas sous CDE ou KDE ??
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 04:48:32PM +0200, Erwann Thoraval wrote: J'ai réalisé un mini parseur/interpréteur voiceXML et j'ai rencontré un drôle de problème à la première étape, celle qui consiste à vérifier que le document XML est bien formé. En effet, mon programme fonctionne très bien en mode console, ou dans une fenêtre xterm sous WindowMaker. En revanche, il ne fonctionne pas dans une fenête dtterm (CDE) ou dans un Konsole (KDE) (il commence bien puis boucle sans fin en plein milieu, sortie par ctrl-c). Que se passe-t-il en mode console si tu fais un: export MALLOC_CHECK=1 avant de lancer ton programme? /Y - fauteur de segments -- Marbles should be kept together.
Re: [HS] soft en C++ fonctionne avec WMaker, mais pas sous CDE ou KDE ??
Le Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:11:43 +0100 Yves Rutschle [EMAIL PROTECTED] nous a écrit: On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 04:48:32PM +0200, Erwann Thoraval wrote: J'ai réalisé un mini parseur/interpréteur voiceXML et j'ai rencontré un drôle de problème à la première étape, celle qui consiste à vérifier que le document XML est bien formé. En effet, mon programme fonctionne très bien en mode console, ou dans une fenêtre xterm sous WindowMaker. En revanche, il ne fonctionne pas dans une fenête dtterm (CDE) ou dans un Konsole (KDE) (il commence bien puis boucle sans fin en plein milieu, sortie par ctrl-c). Que se passe-t-il en mode console si tu fais un: export MALLOC_CHECK=1 avant de lancer ton programme? /Y - fauteur de segments Ah, dans ce cas, le programme ne marche plus (ie, il se comporte comme avec Konsole ou dtterm). Ca viendrait donc de cette variable ? A quoi sert-elle ? (au fait, comment fait-on pour supprimer une variable d'environnement, parce que là, je suis obligé de me déloguer/reloguer pour que ça fonctionne à nouveau). Merci Erwann - L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos -+- Confucius -+-
KDE, CDE MS Windows
On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 06:12, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:40:32AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: No, KDE is like CDE, not like Windows if we're going to make an accurate comparison. I always wondered if there was a linkage there. However, if at one time it was like CDE, it's not anymore. It looks a *lot* like Windows to me... Well, so does CDE in that case. http://www.plig.org/xwinman/screenshots/dtwm.gif Note the striking resemblence between the panel in KDE and CDE. Note the clearly MS-ish title and window bars. kwin looks like afterstep trying to be Explorer to me. I dunno. With themes, though, how can you really say one thing that a particular wm looks like anymore. Just click on a button in a config window, and poof, your windows look like MacOS, OSX, OS/2, Win95, XP, CDE, etc, etc. Now for something that looks like CDE, xfwm/xfce is it... Windows is fairly unique in it's lossage. What do you mean lossage in this context? Loss of stability, coherence (there's a huge API cruft under there), or something else? Yes. Gotta agree with you there! -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson | || | Basically, I got on the plane with a bomb. Basically, I | | tried to ignite it. Basically, yeah, I intended to damage | | the plane. | |RICHARD REID, who tried to blow up American Airlines| | Flight 63 | ++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CDE for Linux?
Is CDE available for LINUX? Where would I find information about it? Is it that much better than KDE? Kevin Smith TNT/APX Engineeringemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lucent Technologiespager: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CDE for Linux?
On 03-May-00 Kevin A Smith wrote: Is CDE available for LINUX? Where would I find information about it? Is it that much better than KDE? Kevin Smith TNT/APX Engineering email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lucent Technologies pager: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See http://www.xigraphics.com/Pages/maXimum_cde_ProductsPage.html or an excellent GPL'd substitute http://www.xfce.org -- Gary
CDE for Debian
Is there a version of CDE available for Debian releases and if so where and cost please. Thanks, Matthew A. Reklau Computer Engineering, Penn State University
Re: CDE for Debian
On Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 01:03:44PM -0500, Matthew A. Reklau wrote: Is there a version of CDE available for Debian releases and if so where and cost please. Well The Debian Project is devoted to Free software and CDE is not free so it is not part of debian. ALso...There is no version which is even free enough to be packaged and distributed in non-free. This does NOT mean however that there is NO version of CDE that you can buy and use. RedHat software puts out a version of CDE for linux. This version is not For Debian Systems but...it is CDE and it is for a Linux system which has many similarities to Debian I recently purchased Applixware from RedHat and it installed and works just fine on my Debian system. Has anyone here tried RedHat's CDE on Debian? I havn't (can't afford it...well I COULD but imnot motivated enough to afford it) You might want to try to contact RedHat and see what they think... I would bet their opinion will be biased (but then again if you ask me as a Debian Developer which distribuion I like the best...well can you predict the answer?) but...it can't hurt to ask. -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
Re: CDE for Debian
On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 01:03:44PM -0500, Matthew A. Reklau wrote: Is there a version of CDE available for Debian releases and if so where and cost please. Has anyone here tried RedHat's CDE on Debian? I havn't (can't afford it...well I COULD but imnot motivated enough to afford it) I did. RedHat's (Triteal) CDE worked with my former Debian 1.3. It was installed using the alien package and it took me a few hours to make it work. The problem was that the installation simply overwrote important boot scripts (in /etc/init.d/ ...). I would suggest to read the book which comes with the cdrom first to find out how CDE starts, which files uses for its configuration AND to scan the rpm packages for what, where files will be installed. I would make backup copies of the current corresponding files. I don't use CDE anymore on my Debian 2.0 so that I can not confirm that it works with it. Jozef Skvarcek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CDE
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: or FVWMCDE. No debianized package for this. And the server is located in here in the Philippines which may take some time to d/l. hmm sounds cool... http://lilith.mozcom.com/~orly um...is this the right url? I checked there...all I found was no files and a single directory admin which brings up a web based admin page for what looks like handling acounts on the server...but um...all password protected. I tried the root of the server...still nuthin.,...just about 10 lines of text and links off to other places. It was there last time I checked. Anyway I'll try to email the guy (author). It's also based on a libforms like xfce. And it's an FVWM2 module. Admiral Charah Tech Support, Cyberspace Laoag, ISP http://www2.csi.com.ph/~keyoz Overuse of the smiley is a mark of loserhood --The Jargon File V4.0.0
CDE
Is there a window manager for debian similar (if not the same as) to CDE? The closest one I can find is Openlook Virtual but I would rather not use it. Cheers, begin: vcard fn: Christopher Wesneski n: Wesneski;Christopher org:STMicroelectronics adr:1310 Electronics Drive;;;Carrollton, Texas;;75006;USA email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] title: ASIC Design Engineer, PMG tel;work: (972) 466-8277 tel;fax:(972) 466-6572 note;quoted-printable:I skate to where the puck is going to be,=0D=0A= not where it has been. -Wayne Gretzky x-mozilla-cpt: http://sun4s023/~wesneski/;2 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: CDE
Chris, Try xfce http://www.linux-kheops.com/pub/xfce/en/index.html. It does include the window manager xfwm, but does not require it. It is a toolbar which resembles cde. The binaries are in rpm. Just run alien on them and install with dpkg. Hope this helped. Joe On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Christopher Wesneski wrote: Is there a window manager for debian similar (if not the same as) to CDE? The closest one I can find is Openlook Virtual but I would rather not use it. Cheers,
Re: CDE
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Joe Stewart wrote: Chris, Try xfce http://www.linux-kheops.com/pub/xfce/en/index.html. It does include the window manager xfwm, but does not require it. It is a toolbar which resembles cde. The binaries are in rpm. Just run alien on them and install with dpkg. Hope this helped. Joe On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Christopher Wesneski wrote: Is there a window manager for debian similar (if not the same as) to CDE? The closest one I can find is Openlook Virtual but I would rather not use it. Cheers, or FVWMCDE. No debianized package for this. And the server is located in here in the Philippines which may take some time to d/l. http://lilith.mozcom.com/~orly Admiral Charah Tech Support, Cyberspace Laoag, ISP http://www2.csi.com.ph/~keyoz Overuse of the smiley is a mark of loserhood --The Jargon File V4.0.0
Re: CDE
On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 10:57:47PM +0800, Richard L. Alhama wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Joe Stewart wrote: Chris, Try xfce http://www.linux-kheops.com/pub/xfce/en/index.html. It does include the window manager xfwm, but does not require it. It is a toolbar which resembles cde. The binaries are in rpm. Just run alien on them and install with dpkg. Hope this helped. Joe On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Christopher Wesneski wrote: Is there a window manager for debian similar (if not the same as) to CDE? The closest one I can find is Openlook Virtual but I would rather not use it. Cheers, or FVWMCDE. No debianized package for this. And the server is located in here in the Philippines which may take some time to d/l. hmm sounds cool... http://lilith.mozcom.com/~orly um...is this the right url? I checked there...all I found was no files and a single directory admin which brings up a web based admin page for what looks like handling acounts on the server...but um...all password protected. I tried the root of the server...still nuthin.,...just about 10 lines of text and links off to other places. -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
Re: libc5 (not libc6) by default? (was: CDE)
Alex Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure there is not the problem that the package is not *.deb. The problem here is that it was not linked with specific major version of libc. If you try to do ldd /path/to/some/CDE/executable/or/library I bet that you'll get dependence on libc6. Same thing happens to my Motif: libXm.so.2.0 seems to depend on libc6 while both of them used libc5 headers. The solution is to configure shared lib loader to use libc5 by default. If somebody can tell me how to do it, I would be very gratefull. Two things you can try: 1. Put /usr/X11R6/lib right at the end of /etc/ld.so.conf. (Is this done in the upgrade process? I'm sure it's made things work for me that didn't previously.) 2. Check for the path hardcoded into the binary; try: strings /path/to/dtlogin | grep '/usr/X11R6/lib' Nothing should be printed. This caused a problem with the Debian packages of fvwm2 and other programs a few months ago. I don't know how you'll get it to load libc5 by default; I haven't had this problem. -- Carey Evans http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libc5 (not libc6) by default? (was: CDE)
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Alex Yukhimets wrote: I just tried installing the RedHat CDE package into a Debian unstable system. It was compiled with an oldish version of libc5 and not libc6 which the unstable release is based on. I was successful in converting the rpm files to deb files using alien. Unfortunately, when I tried to start CDE using dtlogin, I received a core dump. I received no response from RedHat technical support. I'm sure there is not the problem that the package is not *.deb. The problem here is that it was not linked with specific major version of libc. If you try to do ldd /path/to/some/CDE/executable/or/library I bet that you'll get dependence on libc6. Same thing happens to my Motif: libXm.so.2.0 seems to depend on libc6 while both of them used libc5 headers. The solution is to configure shared lib loader to use libc5 by default. If somebody can tell me how to do it, I would be very gratefull. No that wasn't the problem. ldd does show a dependency on libc5. -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
CDE
Hello. I have aquestion about CDE. Is there a version of CDE for Debian (can I hope that it will be). OK. Debian user: Matej Grasic -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CDE
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Matej Grasic wrote: Hello. I have aquestion about CDE. Is there a version of CDE for Debian (can I hope that it will be). CDE is commercial software. You can buy a Linux version from RedHat and convert the RPM using the alien package into a .deb to install. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CDE
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Scott Ellis wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Matej Grasic wrote: Hello. I have aquestion about CDE. Is there a version of CDE for Debian (can I hope that it will be). CDE is commercial software. You can buy a Linux version from RedHat and convert the RPM using the alien package into a .deb to install. I just tried installing the RedHat CDE package into a Debian unstable system. It was compiled with an oldish version of libc5 and not libc6 which the unstable release is based on. I was successful in converting the rpm files to deb files using alien. Unfortunately, when I tried to start CDE using dtlogin, I received a core dump. I received no response from RedHat technical support. Its a real pity that Debian doesn't have support for the primary window enviornment used by all commercial UNIX vendors. Maybe we should try to work directly with TriTeal, the suppliers of CDE for RedHat, a seperate package for Debian. -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
libc5 (not libc6) by default? (was: CDE)
I just tried installing the RedHat CDE package into a Debian unstable system. It was compiled with an oldish version of libc5 and not libc6 which the unstable release is based on. I was successful in converting the rpm files to deb files using alien. Unfortunately, when I tried to start CDE using dtlogin, I received a core dump. I received no response from RedHat technical support. Its a real pity that Debian doesn't have support for the primary window enviornment used by all commercial UNIX vendors. Maybe we should try to work directly with TriTeal, the suppliers of CDE for RedHat, a seperate package for Debian. I'm sure there is not the problem that the package is not *.deb. The problem here is that it was not linked with specific major version of libc. If you try to do ldd /path/to/some/CDE/executable/or/library I bet that you'll get dependence on libc6. Same thing happens to my Motif: libXm.so.2.0 seems to depend on libc6 while both of them used libc5 headers. The solution is to configure shared lib loader to use libc5 by default. If somebody can tell me how to do it, I would be very gratefull. Thanks. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
CDE-like window manager
Anyone know of a CDE/Motif like window manager for Debian? I've gotten used to my CDE desktop at work. Stephen --- Normality is a statistical illusion. -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CDE-like window manager
Anyone know of a CDE/Motif like window manager for Debian? I've gotten used to my CDE desktop at work. I hope that I don't get flamed too much for the attachments to this email, but they are not large. They snow a screen capture of my fvwm2. Perhaps many people don't know that fvwm2 can be set up in various ways. Stephen - you didn't say what features of CDE you like. I'm guessing that it's the dashboard style and perhaps the desktop buttons for switching destops and the pop-up menus. This is what my fvwm2 setup looked like a year ago. I've rearranged it a bit since then. The clock is now half the size and the load meter is at the right side. I use CDE at work too, but much prefer the way that fvwm2 shows the shape and titles of each window in the pager. I have 24 desktops at home, and rarely have more than one window per desktop. I don't like icons on my dashboard; they seem a waste of space to me. The labels such as Hosts, Apps, etc are pop-up menus with mini-icons if you like them. -- ...RickM... ---BeginMessage--- Here is my buttonbar from fvwm2. I'm still working on it. I can't capture the pop-up menus because they go away when you click anything else. They mostly came from the slackware fvwm menus. The default buttonbar looks fancier because it has some icons on it, but mine is more functional. The clock doesn't come with debian. The jpg file is small, so I've attached it in two different ways. begin 666 dash.jpg M1TE.#=A%@,\`/``$A`2%^H@P)[EMAIL PROTECTED]'X#T*!;_ [EMAIL PROTECTED]+PU2BR\Q8!_PA`OWB,[EMAIL PROTECTED](OPXD;\#TM0'_`4_0%`$``$` M([EMAIL PROTECTED]#!X`DQ8!8([EMAIL PROTECTED]```M[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@([EMAIL PROTECTED]/\6%K\($4 M`/[EMAIL PROTECTED](6%D`(ZRGBG`O1;[EMAIL PROTECTED]@$-L([EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]( M`.G4,^[T``K_`$_`0$].X`*!``%D``[EMAIL PROTECTED](OW#@!#T1Q+_ M`PR_'`$GA``O1(``;\`-L(@``D6``@([EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]'CT M_#'T*`C_%D_PUA/6R\_\!_[]`OX3(2K,H1P06`P-T``#T(`#_%@_``$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED](Q8``([EMAIL PROTECTED]'@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@6`$`(`(@`$/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/\6`+\( [EMAIL PROTECTED]R$E#``!;```$#4P`E`(@\P`([EMAIL PROTECTED]'U3PC_`P`U,BR MA8!%;#\`?4H`$2D9_;T`/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/8`8?\`$K\``!XJ``Q\P`(_P!` [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/\6_[\(OP``]N``'R,[EMAIL PROTECTED]`!O MJ`[EMAIL PROTECTED]@(O\6`1``9V)@``,6```].`J^,6_P@(OP!X]``Q^!8. M``/!``!``#Q2[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;]`/\`+]` M``3Z]/8J^$QL;F+U``/[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED];P,`]`#`_P`OSQL M@#U``#_``[EMAIL PROTECTED]_0*0,9/;U]/___[^_OP!O!`U```4``#U M(``` M M`P`%@,\```([EMAIL PROTECTED]/!Q([EMAIL PROTECTED]@3*ES(L*'# MAQ`C2IQ(L:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MS(L:/'CR!#BAQ)LJ3)DRA3JEQY(`!+D2X)R)Q)LZ;- MFSASZMRY,R;/GT#K7IZC1HT@)N'S)M*G3IU`[+DU*M:K5JUA_!IB:MO1 MK0\BC5:=*S9GF'/JLVY-*K;[EMAIL PROTECTED];=JW=NWB)[EMAIL PROTECTED]S; MF0`2*U[,N+'CQXD%2)Y,N;[EMAIL PROTECTED],!ESYE#B[;N?3CRJ93;Q[-K1J MTYAI;MU;N+;MK[1O7_6KVROAWE5_`T]Z6:``B3*U_^FG'[EMAIL PROTECTED];KU MZ]A!HX;.G;)T[.##_EO7+CGQ\O/HTZN/K+DY9]0`Q,N_3IZR;+K#\^M7FGO_ M4-Y8`=;$$MAMA/`A*08%:![EMAIL PROTECTED]JIW7GSS%!8=QQ^EV]97' M87?@@B?!:FJ)R[%HHGSUE?AB=K%-B%^$[D'[EMAIL PROTECTED]@48)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/($ M88)#WH2D;W4I2%.28T%IY$T4'K?B`[V-B(W,DX(WV?0F=EU^Z5V.S957 [EMAIL PROTECTED]*+9F(_Y]8AG4`!:)23BXHY)%2_M=DD$H^F1B!SII M7*%`E06E8@BR2ABESJ9*:`V48JIH,;)-A!B5V+YX99B/D?FFWFJJJ;_F]6 MUZJKHH$:ZPAWBIB=^U.J=`2-GIX)X#TDDL6T46V*BBCEZZI*/!'1JDA,Z M:NVSSQ)WZ*;06FIMLXU66].0H'8;JH15IJ@:G,[1ZIJNGXYJ[NAK1IOF?/2 M2YJ:L8Y'FKSC3KC;B1*B=);K%:3W`7MLI,DI7Y%'5L9$3?XOMM]$J MJ?R%5^[[,@:_PH4:,:Q^)QC%YI8NHZAL=AM+5WM\.MHL\`RCTDSSD#_ M'_0.LO:,VNVLBGOOSH#+3#-0PLLM88URC2;PQ(S_+!.F7+KI]96%[QUPP$. MW*W8/-T,8(E!^IIMEZ3)6VXG7[JK(,?FVPN_K28HHRUE2Y;*?C+/R]V]P MWWMOSD5#/?3A2-2-3PTSY/7RN[-B3T?-:],.SYYS8K37#5_8G:]]A M^IVV:M3F3KK?29%;=MYIZW3VHG2+?*X)NM.99-'ZITWWVUSJGRVE=:4;G*` M!_[RT#%CSJNLG5NN?9SYNGL]G-DOKCW/WF$^6=)2C[XXXUW.;[0ZX]^^M5S MY^0ZZW5V'3N.^SL_^]BUQ;PF.4M$/*;RKF^\,:,-4452G#J;!)-'LKV% M#$)[EMAIL PROTECTED]'?.H#G_@MR\/HAQ(WS?U*A6/A/R:X7K$Z'H6'B^7I. MA8N;GYXP)KRQF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]'[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@R+:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M8(O*V+A^B,7D95!R[EMAIL PROTECTED],VUH:PV1H9U0C9MS@[EMAIL PROTECTED] MV!LASN[EMAIL PROTECTED]']7#K7$1=FG;(?[\Y\2KDLM3Q6)(GUQ3X*;58 M6DPF3049#WZP7T8K81GAQ:KMU--,(,C')O1U2SS*_:J3JOFP0SI2B+L; MI0GJ:P!GH67`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
fvwm2-cde
Is anyone planning on packaging up the fvwm2-cde for debian? I've seen this running (on a sparc/Slowaris), and it looks great! Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Very Pete Townshendish. Who? Exactly. -- Anon ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
