Re: not a debian problem

2023-07-29 Thread Tim Woodall

On Sat, 29 Jul 2023, Tim Woodall wrote:


On Wed, 26 Jul 2023, Dan Ritter wrote:


Tim Woodall wrote:

This is not a debian problem but I'm hoping the collective wisdom might
have some ideas.

One can be soft rebooted with no issues, the other hangs in the bios.

Anyone seen anything like this and what was the issue?

Both machines are running bullseye if there are things I can check while
booted.


It is most likely either a motherboard BIOS change or a BIOS
setting that differs; it is less likely to be a BMC firmware
difference, but that's possible.

Can you diff the output of dmidecode from each system?



System Initializing...

For approx 9 seconds.

Followed by a single frame (in the capture at least) of:
AST1300/2300 VGA True Color Graphics and Video Accelerator
VBIOS Version 0.96.00
DRAM Size: 16MB

At which point there's a mode change and then the rest of the boot
proceeds.


When it fails to boot I get the "System Initializing..." screen with the
flashing cursor but this hangs indefinitely. I recorded for 2 minutes
and literally the only frames present are related to the flashing cursor

Which makes me suspect that the issue is somehow related to initializing
the video card.


I'll report back if I get to the bottom of this. Going to check the
bios settings related to video - perhaps there's a difference there. I
run both of these systems headless.




Problem fixed. I changed the onboard graphics from AST1300/2300 to Intel
in the BIOS.

That as a bit of a mistake as it then broke the IPMI. So I attached a
screen and keyboard, rebooted, changed it back, and now the problem is
gone.

Tim.



Re: not a debian problem

2023-07-29 Thread Tim Woodall

On Wed, 26 Jul 2023, Dan Ritter wrote:


Tim Woodall wrote:

This is not a debian problem but I'm hoping the collective wisdom might
have some ideas.

One can be soft rebooted with no issues, the other hangs in the bios.

Anyone seen anything like this and what was the issue?

Both machines are running bullseye if there are things I can check while
booted.


It is most likely either a motherboard BIOS change or a BIOS
setting that differs; it is less likely to be a BMC firmware
difference, but that's possible.

Can you diff the output of dmidecode from each system?

-dsr-



Sorry for the delay, was travelling and only just had time to try this.

That was a good idea, unfortunately, it's not given me any hints:

--- dmi.good2023-07-29 18:15:45.685631581 +0100
+++ dmi.bad 2023-07-29 18:15:38.793189732 +0100
@@ -127,12 +127,12 @@
Type Detail: Unknown
Speed: 1333 MT/s
Manufacturer: Kingston 
-   Serial Number: 141A8354 
+   Serial Number: 112068F9

Asset Tag: A1_AssetTagNum0
Part Number: 99U5428-018.A00LF
Rank: 2
Configured Memory Speed: 1333 MT/s
-   Minimum Voltage: 31.0 V
+   Minimum Voltage: 1.048 V
Maximum Voltage: 31.908 V
Configured Voltage: Unknown

@@ -160,7 +160,7 @@
Type Detail: Unknown
Speed: 1333 MT/s
Manufacturer: Kingston 
-   Serial Number: 151A4D52 
+   Serial Number: 142054F9

Asset Tag: A1_AssetTagNum1
Part Number: 99U5428-018.A00LF
Rank: 2
@@ -191,7 +191,7 @@
Access Method: Memory-mapped physical 32-bit address
Access Address: 0xFFB4
Status: Valid, Not Full
-   Change Token: 0x022B
+   Change Token: 0x02BB
Header Format: Type 1
Supported Log Type Descriptors: 25
Descriptor 1: Single-bit ECC memory error


The Serial Number changes are for the DIMMs in the system. That voltage
difference is "odd"

All four dimms have the same part number. The DIMMs in BANK1 have
Minimum Voltage: 32.332 V, Maximum Voltage: Unknown.

I don't know how to interpret that "Change Token" - which is part of the
System Event Log but I assume it's not relevant.


I've just discovered that I can record the boot.

Ignoring the flashing cursor in the top RH corner the boot sequence goes:


System Initializing...

For approx 9 seconds.

Followed by a single frame (in the capture at least) of:
AST1300/2300 VGA True Color Graphics and Video Accelerator
VBIOS Version 0.96.00
DRAM Size: 16MB

At which point there's a mode change and then the rest of the boot
proceeds.


When it fails to boot I get the "System Initializing..." screen with the
flashing cursor but this hangs indefinitely. I recorded for 2 minutes
and literally the only frames present are related to the flashing cursor

Which makes me suspect that the issue is somehow related to initializing
the video card.


I'll report back if I get to the bottom of this. Going to check the
bios settings related to video - perhaps there's a difference there. I
run both of these systems headless.


Tim.



Re: not a debian problem

2023-07-26 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-07-26, Tim Woodall wrote:

> Anyone seen anything like this and what was the issue?

I don't have such a difference between 2 machines. But I had one which
freeze and I played with reboot kernel parameter succeeding with:

reboot=pcie

reboot accept different values. I set it in /etc/default/grub so you can
prepare some kernel stances and try them quickly.



Re: not a debian problem

2023-07-26 Thread Dan Ritter
Tim Woodall wrote: 
> This is not a debian problem but I'm hoping the collective wisdom might
> have some ideas.
> 
> One can be soft rebooted with no issues, the other hangs in the bios.
> 
> Anyone seen anything like this and what was the issue?
> 
> Both machines are running bullseye if there are things I can check while
> booted.

It is most likely either a motherboard BIOS change or a BIOS
setting that differs; it is less likely to be a BMC firmware
difference, but that's possible.

Can you diff the output of dmidecode from each system?

-dsr-



not a debian problem

2023-07-26 Thread Tim Woodall

This is not a debian problem but I'm hoping the collective wisdom might
have some ideas.

I have two, nominally identical, systems. Only difference should be the
make and model of the ssd disks.

One can be soft rebooted with no issues, the other hangs in the bios.

They have ipmi, and a power cycle via that will allow a successful
reboot. It doesn't require a power drain.

I'm 95% sure I've tried swapping the disks between the machines - but
I'll reconfirm when I've got a few hours spare. The problem is the
motherboard (or case?)

The motherboard is J1900D2Y

It's not a huge issue, I rarely reboot and can do it remotely if
required, but it's an annoyance I'd like to fix.

Anyone seen anything like this and what was the issue?

For various reasons I cannot reboot the good one at will, so I'm hoping
to gather a set of things to try and check all in one go.

Both machines are running bullseye if there are things I can check while
booted.

Tim



Re: Debian problem

2012-05-03 Thread Johan Mazel
Thanks for all your answers.
I sent another mail to this mailing list to expose my problem.
Regards.
Johan

2012/5/3 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, 02 May 2012 19:08:52 +0900, Johan Mazel wrote:

 I have a problem with Debian Testing on an Dell Optiplex 960. Can I ask
 for some help on this list or should I use another way ?

 This list is okay but for the next time it would be better if you include
 a more descriptive subject for the problem ;-)

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Debian problem

2012-05-02 Thread Johan Mazel
Hi
I have a problem with Debian Testing on an Dell Optiplex 960.
Can I ask for some help on this list or should I use another way ?
Regards.
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Re: Debian problem

2012-05-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On 02/05/12 11:08, Johan Mazel wrote:
 I have a problem with Debian Testing on an Dell Optiplex 960.
 Can I ask for some help on this list or should I use another way ?

That's what the list is for.  Please make sure use a descriptive subject
for the post with your problem in it.


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Re: Debian problem

2012-05-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 2 May 2012 19:08:52 +0900
Johan Mazel johan.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Johan,

 I have a problem with Debian Testing on an Dell Optiplex 960.
 Can I ask for some help on this list or should I use another way ?

You're in the right place;  Ask here, there's bound to be somebody that
can help.

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Re: Debian problem

2012-05-02 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 02 May 2012 19:08:52 +0900, Johan Mazel wrote:

 I have a problem with Debian Testing on an Dell Optiplex 960. Can I ask
 for some help on this list or should I use another way ? 

This list is okay but for the next time it would be better if you include 
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ldap and samba with debian problem

2007-11-21 Thread Chris Boyd
I'm using openldap2.3-2.3.30 with samba-3.0.24-6 and 
phpldapadmin-0.9.8.3-8 on Debian Etch. Actually it's running on a 
virtual machine using VMware. I had everything setup and running 
smoothly. I was testing a script to create users home/data/profiles and 
set ownership/permissions. Somehow the script changed the ownership of / 
(and subdirs) to one of the users (but not perms as far as I could 
tell). I set it back to owner root. I then set the ownership back on 
everything I know of. Now slapd will not start unless I take out 
shadowLastChange out of the following acl:


access to attrs=userPassword,shadowLastChange
 by dn=cn=admin,dc=mecompany,dc=ie write
 by anonymous auth
 by self write
 by * none

In pdbedit all users come up with:

pdb_get_group_sid: Failed to find Unix account for admin
Primary Group SID:(NULL SID)

And when I try to access phpldapadmin:


 Error

Fatal error: Cannot read your configuration file 
/usr/share/phpldapadmin/config/config.php, its permissions are too 
strict.


Is there some ownership that's possibly still wrong or did it do 
something to the database? Scratching my head for a few days now. TIA

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Re: ldap and samba with debian problem

2007-11-21 Thread Mihira Fernando

Chris Boyd wrote:
[snip]

And when I try to access phpldapadmin:


 Error

Fatal error: Cannot read your configuration file 
/usr/share/phpldapadmin/config/config.php, its permissions are too 
strict.


Is there some ownership that's possibly still wrong or did it do 
something to the database? Scratching my head for a few days now. TIA


Most likely that Apache cannot access the file anymore. Check the fire 
permissions to see if Apache user/group as access to this file.


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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-13 Thread Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira

I have great news!!
i resolved my problem using testdisk package within ubuntu live cd.
i tried with ntfsprogs, and other tools but didn't work.
with testdisk i could recover my data from the NTFS partition.
testdisk is just perfect and i recommend it to every partitions problem.

Thanks for help from all of you!!

On 6/8/07, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 18:32:41 -0300, Thiago Santos Faria Xavier
Teixeira wrote:
 i already tried to use a live cd (ubuntu) and acess my data to move
 them to the another media, but the NTFS partition cannot be mounted e
 exhibit a lot of erros...  so i don´t know what to do...

Try to boot a rescue CD that has TestDisk on it. TestDisk is often able
to restore a damaged partition table.

Package: testdisk
Description: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool
  TestDisk checks the partition and boot sectors of your disks.
  It is very useful in recovering lost partitions.
  It works with :
  * DOS/Windows FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32
  * NTFS ( Windows NT/2K/XP )
  [...]

On the other hand, if Partition Magic really screwed up the NTFS
filesystem
itself then you might indeed have to reinstall. Before you do that,
however,
you could try if scalpel manages to recover your important personal files.

Package: scalpel
Description: A Frugal, High Performance File Carver
A fast file carver that reads a database of header and footer definitions
and extracts matching files from a set of image files or raw device files.
Scalpel is filesystem-independent and will carve files from FATx, NTFS,
ext2/3,
or raw partitions. It is useful for both digital forensics investigation
and
file recovery.

The ntfsprogs package also has a few utilities which you could try
before you give up and reinstall: ntfsfix, ntfsinfo, ntfsundelete,
ntfsls, etc.

Grml (http://www.grml.org) is a nice debian-based system rescue CD that
includes these three packages (and many more).

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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-08 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 18:32:41 -0300, Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira 
wrote:
 i already tried to use a live cd (ubuntu) and acess my data to move
 them to the another media, but the NTFS partition cannot be mounted e
 exhibit a lot of erros...  so i don´t know what to do...

Try to boot a rescue CD that has TestDisk on it. TestDisk is often able
to restore a damaged partition table.

Package: testdisk
Description: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool
  TestDisk checks the partition and boot sectors of your disks.
  It is very useful in recovering lost partitions.
  It works with :
  * DOS/Windows FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32
  * NTFS ( Windows NT/2K/XP )
  [...]

On the other hand, if Partition Magic really screwed up the NTFS filesystem
itself then you might indeed have to reinstall. Before you do that, however,
you could try if scalpel manages to recover your important personal files.

Package: scalpel
Description: A Frugal, High Performance File Carver
 A fast file carver that reads a database of header and footer definitions
 and extracts matching files from a set of image files or raw device files.
 Scalpel is filesystem-independent and will carve files from FATx, NTFS, ext2/3,
 or raw partitions. It is useful for both digital forensics investigation and
 file recovery.

The ntfsprogs package also has a few utilities which you could try
before you give up and reinstall: ntfsfix, ntfsinfo, ntfsundelete, 
ntfsls, etc.

Grml (http://www.grml.org) is a nice debian-based system rescue CD that
includes these three packages (and many more).

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Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira

Hi,

i have windows in my new laptop and i want to install debian with windows,
but my machine has only one
partition. So i installed the partition magic software to create a new
partition to install linux without losing my
windows. But the partition magic did not create the partition (exhibited
some errors) and now the start of windows fail.
i want to  know if my data are lost? there is some (linux) tool to recover
my data? does anyone had the same problem?

thanks in advance,


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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Pol Hallen
 i have windows in my new laptop and i want to install debian with windows,
 but my machine has only one
 partition. So i installed the partition magic software to create a new
 partition to install linux without losing my
 windows. But the partition magic did not create the partition (exhibited
 some errors) and now the start of windows fail.
 i want to  know if my data are lost? there is some (linux) tool to recover
 my data? does anyone had the same problem?
Hi,
you can use:
trinity rescue kit or try resize windows partition with debian cd installer.
But i'm not sure that debian installer can resize win partition.

Which windows version do u have in your laptop?
 
Pol


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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Kent West

Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira wrote:

Hi,

i have windows in my new laptop and i want to install debian with 
windows, but my machine has only one
partition. So i installed the partition magic software to create a new 
partition to install linux without losing my
windows. But the partition magic did not create the partition 
(exhibited some errors) and now the start of windows fail.
i want to  know if my data are lost? there is some (linux) tool to 
recover my data? does anyone had the same problem?


Partition Magic may have an undo feature, which might save you.

But it's been my experience that once Windows becomes unbootable, you 
either have to repair the boot setup with the Windows installation CD, 
or you have to bite the bullet and reinstall Windows.


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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Telly Williams
Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira wrote:
 Hi,

 i have windows in my new laptop and i want to install debian with
 windows, but my machine has only one
 partition. So i installed the partition magic software to create a new
 partition to install linux without losing my
 windows. But the partition magic did not create the partition
 (exhibited some errors) and now the start of windows fail.
 i want to  know if my data are lost? there is some (linux) tool to
 recover my data? does anyone had the same problem?

 thanks in advance,
 Thiago,

The exact same thing happened to me.  I was never able to start
windows up again.  If you google your problem, you'll see that this same
incident happened to many others.  I ended up losing everything (I
backed up my important files prior).  If you don't find the answer, just
suck it up, reinstall windows, THEN install Debian.  I had a 50/50
Windows/Debian installation for about 2 weeks before I decided to take
the plunge and just use my entire hard drive for Debian.  I hesitated
doing this because of Quicken, but, then I discovered GnuCash.  Get rid
of partition magic (unless you figure it out and it works for you).

Telly

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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira

my windows is xp.

On 6/7/07, Pol Hallen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 i have windows in my new laptop and i want to install debian with
windows,
 but my machine has only one
 partition. So i installed the partition magic software to create a new
 partition to install linux without losing my
 windows. But the partition magic did not create the partition (exhibited
 some errors) and now the start of windows fail.
 i want to  know if my data are lost? there is some (linux) tool to
recover
 my data? does anyone had the same problem?
Hi,
you can use:
trinity rescue kit or try resize windows partition with debian cd
installer.
But i'm not sure that debian installer can resize win partition.

Which windows version do u have in your laptop?

Pol





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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira

how do i access the Partition Magic if my windows is not working?

On 6/7/07, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira wrote:
 Hi,

 i have windows in my new laptop and i want to install debian with
 windows, but my machine has only one
 partition. So i installed the partition magic software to create a new
 partition to install linux without losing my
 windows. But the partition magic did not create the partition
 (exhibited some errors) and now the start of windows fail.
 i want to  know if my data are lost? there is some (linux) tool to
 recover my data? does anyone had the same problem?

Partition Magic may have an undo feature, which might save you.

But it's been my experience that once Windows becomes unbootable, you
either have to repair the boot setup with the Windows installation CD,
or you have to bite the bullet and reinstall Windows.

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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira

i find some people saying to use dd_rescue, but i don't if dd_rescue works
with NTFS partition.
Does anyone know?

On 6/7/07, Telly Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira wrote:
 Hi,

 i have windows in my new laptop and i want to install debian with
 windows, but my machine has only one
 partition. So i installed the partition magic software to create a new
 partition to install linux without losing my
 windows. But the partition magic did not create the partition
 (exhibited some errors) and now the start of windows fail.
 i want to  know if my data are lost? there is some (linux) tool to
 recover my data? does anyone had the same problem?

 thanks in advance,
 Thiago,

The exact same thing happened to me.  I was never able to start
windows up again.  If you google your problem, you'll see that this same
incident happened to many others.  I ended up losing everything (I
backed up my important files prior).  If you don't find the answer, just
suck it up, reinstall windows, THEN install Debian.  I had a 50/50
Windows/Debian installation for about 2 weeks before I decided to take
the plunge and just use my entire hard drive for Debian.  I hesitated
doing this because of Quicken, but, then I discovered GnuCash.  Get rid
of partition magic (unless you figure it out and it works for you).

Telly

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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Kent West

Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira wrote:

how do i access the Partition Magic if my windows is not working?
Ah; I forgot that in the Windows world pretty much everything depends on 
Windows working. D'oh!


I'd probably use a LiveCD (like Knoppix) to boot the machine and copy 
your important data off to a network or external drive, then try the 
Windows repair/reinstallation.


(btw, top-posting is discouraged on this list, in favor of 
conversational-style posting: statement -- reply to statement -- next 
statement -- next reply, etc)


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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Joe

Kent West wrote:

Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira wrote:

Hi,

i have windows in my new laptop and i want to install debian with 
windows, but my machine has only one
partition. So i installed the partition magic software to create a new 
partition to install linux without losing my
windows. But the partition magic did not create the partition 
(exhibited some errors) and now the start of windows fail.
i want to  know if my data are lost? there is some (linux) tool to 
recover my data? does anyone had the same problem?


Partition Magic may have an undo feature, which might save you.

But it's been my experience that once Windows becomes unbootable, you 
either have to repair the boot setup with the Windows installation CD, 
or you have to bite the bullet and reinstall Windows.



If you have an XP CD, the first thing to try is to boot from it and
select 'Repair' when asked. If that works, and you're happy that XP
is in good condition, then you might try using parted from a live
Linux CD, such as Knoppix.

At worst, you reinstall Windows, and if it is new, there's probably
not too much investment in time already made.

If you don't have the CD, it's harder. The computer will probably
have a 'recovery' method, but it will only install a clean XP on the
same single partition, and you're no further on. But I've seen claims
that parted will successfully resize Small Business Server 2003, one
of XP's grown-up relatives, so it's worth a try.


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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira

i already tried to use a live cd (ubuntu) and acess my data to move them to
the
another media, but the NTFS partition cannot be mounted e exhibit a lot of
erros...
so i don´t know what to do...


On 6/7/07, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Kent West wrote:
 Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira wrote:
 Hi,

 i have windows in my new laptop and i want to install debian with
 windows, but my machine has only one
 partition. So i installed the partition magic software to create a new
 partition to install linux without losing my
 windows. But the partition magic did not create the partition
 (exhibited some errors) and now the start of windows fail.
 i want to  know if my data are lost? there is some (linux) tool to
 recover my data? does anyone had the same problem?

 Partition Magic may have an undo feature, which might save you.

 But it's been my experience that once Windows becomes unbootable, you
 either have to repair the boot setup with the Windows installation CD,
 or you have to bite the bullet and reinstall Windows.

If you have an XP CD, the first thing to try is to boot from it and
select 'Repair' when asked. If that works, and you're happy that XP
is in good condition, then you might try using parted from a live
Linux CD, such as Knoppix.

At worst, you reinstall Windows, and if it is new, there's probably
not too much investment in time already made.

If you don't have the CD, it's harder. The computer will probably
have a 'recovery' method, but it will only install a clean XP on the
same single partition, and you're no further on. But I've seen claims
that parted will successfully resize Small Business Server 2003, one
of XP's grown-up relatives, so it's worth a try.


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Re: Install windows with debian problem

2007-06-07 Thread Steve Witt

On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira wrote:


i already tried to use a live cd (ubuntu) and acess my data to move them to
the
another media, but the NTFS partition cannot be mounted e exhibit a lot of
erros...
so i don´t know what to do...


Well, I think that this means that Partition Magic hosed up the NTFS 
filesystem so that it is unusable. Did you try to use the repair option of 
a WinXP CD to fix it? It was suggested previously by someone as perhaps 
the only way to possibly fix the WinXP partition. If that doesn't work, 
then I think you are at the point of reinstalling Windows.


For your information, with the new Debian installer for etch, one can 
resize an NTFS partition during the Debian install. I believe that this is 
a new feature for the etch installer, I don't think it was true 
for previous versions. I was a little skeptical about it working 
correctly, but I've installed 3 or 4 newer laptops recently with etch and 
used it to resize the WinXP partition rather than use Partition Magic.




Re: Using Debian problem--please help

2007-04-12 Thread Chris Lale
Christian Hattery wrote:
 I used the netinst from the US mirror and I installed it on an AMD64
 system and everything went fine and after the install when Debian ask's
 for my account name and pass it leaves that GUI and goes to nothing but
 a GRAY screen and a mouse cursor.
 
 I don't know what to do from here and I'm confused as to what could be
 wrong please any input would greatly be appreciated.
 

1. Get a console with Ctrl-F1.

2. Login as user root using the password you entered for root during 
installation.

3. Install eg the Gnome desktop (package gnome) and the Gnome Display Manager
for graphical login (package gdm). Details in the NewbieDOC wiki [1] refer to
Sarge, but the commands are the same for Etch.

4. When all done, restart the X server with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.

[1]
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Installing_Debian_on_a_small_partition#Installing_heavyweight_desktops


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Re: Using Debian problem--please help

2007-04-11 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Christian Hattery wrote:

 I used the netinst from the US mirror and I installed it on an AMD64
 system and everything went fine and after the install when Debian ask's
 for my account name and pass it leaves that GUI and goes to nothing but a
 GRAY screen and a mouse cursor.
 
 I don't know what to do from here and I'm confused as to what could be
 wrong please any input would greatly be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Christian Hattery

http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/2006/05/getting-gui.html will help you
get a GUI environment like KDE.

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Re: Using Debian problem--please help

2007-04-11 Thread Adam Frank

I don't know what to do from here and I'm confused as to what could be wrong
please any input would greatly be appreciated.


Something useful (in addition to what's already been said here) that a
newbie *might* not know: when X starts and you wind up at that
seemingly-inescapable grey screen, you can:

hit CTRL+ALT+Backspace to restart your X session
hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to get out of X and back to your shells
Once back to your shell, you can use ALT+F[1-6] to navigate between
your shells, and ALT+F7 to get back into the running X session.


On 4/10/07, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 4/10/07, Christian Hattery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I used the netinst from the US mirror and I installed it on an AMD64
system
 and everything went fine and after the install when Debian ask's for my
 account name and pass it leaves that GUI and goes to nothing but a GRAY
 screen and a mouse cursor.



That means that the X server is starting and working properly, but it does
not have any clients to run, such as a program, or a window manager (wm), or
a desktop environment (DE) like KDE or Gnome.

So you just need to install one of these items. Most newbies probably want
KDE or Gnome. To install KDE, just run (as root), aptitude install kde.
Then when you log in, KDE should start, and you'll be in a more familiar
environment.

Or it could just be that you need to use the GUI login screen's pull-down
menu to select some environment to run if some suitable environment has
already been installed.

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Using Debian problem--please help

2007-04-10 Thread Christian Hattery
I used the netinst from the US mirror and I installed it on an AMD64 system 
and everything went fine and after the install when Debian ask's for my 
account name and pass it leaves that GUI and goes to nothing but a GRAY 
screen and a mouse cursor.


I don't know what to do from here and I'm confused as to what could be wrong 
please any input would greatly be appreciated.


Thanks,
Christian Hattery



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Re: Using Debian problem--please help

2007-04-10 Thread Kent West

On 4/10/07, Christian Hattery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I used the netinst from the US mirror and I installed it on an AMD64
system
and everything went fine and after the install when Debian ask's for my
account name and pass it leaves that GUI and goes to nothing but a GRAY
screen and a mouse cursor.



That means that the X server is starting and working properly, but it does
not have any clients to run, such as a program, or a window manager (wm), or
a desktop environment (DE) like KDE or Gnome.

So you just need to install one of these items. Most newbies probably want
KDE or Gnome. To install KDE, just run (as root), aptitude install kde.
Then when you log in, KDE should start, and you'll be in a more familiar
environment.

Or it could just be that you need to use the GUI login screen's pull-down
menu to select some environment to run if some suitable environment has
already been installed.

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debian problem about installation

2004-08-16 Thread matthias vandegaer

i recently got an IBM thinkpad 755C laptop,and according to a site i visited,debian version 2.0 could work on the model,however,now i want to install your linux distribution on my laptop because i have a small harddisc and i want to start using it for the internet(and since linux is an OS where there are few viruses for,i wouldn't need an antivirus program,since it takes lots of room.
but sadly enough i can't find the distribution anymore,the distribution that person used was Debian version 2.0,but i can't seem to find it on any site anymore,am i able to ask if i might could download old linux distributuins like Debian 2.0 on any(or perhaps this)site
thank you for reading.
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Re: debian problem about installation

2004-08-16 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Please /don't/ send HTML mails to the mailing list.

matthias vandegaer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 i recently got an IBM thinkpad 755C laptop,and according to a site i
 visited,debian version 2.0 could work on the model,however,now i want
 to install your linux distribution on my laptop because i have a small
 harddisc and i want to start using it for the internet(and since linux
 is an OS where there are few viruses for,i wouldn't need an antivirus
 program,since it takes lots of room.

Debian 2.0 is not supported by the Debian security team anymore. I don't
know how much RAM/hard disk space your notebook has, but you could
probably install Debian 3.0. It comes on seven CDs, but of course you
don't have to install everything. The base system after the
installation is about 120 MB (without graphical interface). There also
some Linux distributions specially for older/slower computers, like
Deli Linux (http://delilinux.berlios.de/). Vectorlinux or Slackware
would maybe also work.

 but sadly enough i can't find the distribution anymore,the 
 distribution that person used was Debian version 2.0,but i can't seem
 to find it on any site anymore,am i able to ask; if i might could
 download old linux distributuins like Debian 2.0 on any(or perhaps
 this)site

The packages are available at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian-archive, but
I don't know if you can find ISO images anywhere.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: New to Debian... Problem connecting to the internet

2003-07-09 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Hameed R wrote:

 I just installed debain yesterday and I a little problem with my
 internet connection.
 
 I connect alright, but when I try to access I can't. THere is simply no
 data coming in or going out and my ISP cuts me off after 20 minutes
 idle. This means that no data went through.

What kind of connection do you use? Did you configure the nameservers
correctly (or set to dynamic if supported)? Can you ping hosts via ip
addresses instead of hostnames (try ping 212.227.118.85 for
www.debian.org).

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: New to Debian... Problem connecting to the internet

2003-07-09 Thread Hameed R

Thanks for replying Andreas
I just got a normal dialup connection
I did try pinging before didn't work.
I set nameservers either way and none worked.


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Re:  
Re:  I connect alright, but when I try to access I can't. THere is simply no
Re:  data coming in or going out and my ISP cuts me off after 20 minutes
Re:  idle. This means that no data went through.
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Re: What kind of connection do you use? Did you configure the nameservers
Re: correctly (or set to dynamic if supported)? Can you ping hosts via ip
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New to Debian... Problem connecting to the internet

2003-07-08 Thread Hameed R
Hi there,

I just installed debain yesterday and I a little problem with my internet connection.

I connect alright, but when I try to access I can't. THere is simply no data coming in 
or going out and my ISP cuts me off after 20 minutes idle. This means that no data 
went through.

I would appreciate if someone could help me

Thanks,

Hameed


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[debian] Problem mit SCSI-Platten.

2002-05-16 Thread Joerg Desch

Ich weiß, es ist eigentlich der falsche Platz zum Fragen, aber ich habe
noch keinen Newsserver laufen, und komme mit der Zeit nicht nach.

Ich habe in einem großen Rundumschlag von Modem auf T-DSL, vom Debian 2.0
Server auf Woody, und von einer Celeron-Workstation mit Mandrake 7.0 auf
einen Athlon-800 mit Woody umgestellt. Das einzige was blieb waren die
Platten aus der alten Workstation. Die waren noch von Mandrake
partitioniert.

Der Controller ist ein UW-SCSI Tekram 390-F (der mit NCR-Chips). An dem
hängen 2 IBM PLatten (DDRS-3456D Rev DC1B; DDRS-34560W Rev S97B). Am
SCSI2-Zweig hängt der CDRW-Brenner (Yamaha CRW4260) und ein CDRom (Pioneer
DR-U06S). Den UW-Zweig terminiert die DDRS-34560W. Beim SCSI2-Zweig
erledigt das der Brenner.

Die Konstellation lief so in der alten Kiste. So, nun aber zu den
Problemchen.

Ich habe die erste Seltsamkeit beim Booten gehabt. Hier hat das BIOS
gemeckert, daß die 2. Platte (also die mit der Terminierung) more than 64
heads hat. Tatsächlich lieferte das BIOS nur bei der ersten Platte die
erwarteten Werte 4357/64/32. Für die 2. Platte kamen 1020/141/62 heraus!
Nach einem Tastendruck habe ich weitergemacht.

Als nächstes kam es bei cfdisk zu Problemen. Auf der 2. Platte wurde keine
oder eine zerstörte partition-table erkannt. Nach einem mutigen clear
partitions lief alles problemlos.

Was bleibt ist die immernoch vorhandene Meldung des BIOS (samt
Tastendruck) und der fahle Beigeschmack.

Komischerweise meldet der SYM8x-Treiber für beide Platten die korrekte
Geometrie!

Ich habe ähnliche Probleme nur nach Windoze-Abstürzen (i.d. Firma laufen
so komische Systeme ;-) gehabt. Hier hat Windoze das EEPROM des
Controllers geschossen, so daß der Tekram gemeckert hat.

Woran kann das liegen? An einem anderen Board kann sich der Controller
doch nicht stören? Und sein BIOS bringt der Tekram ja mit.

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Re: [debian] Problem mit SCSI-Platten.

2002-05-16 Thread Ralf Schmidt

Hallo Joerg,

* Joerg Desch prügelte in die Tastatur:
Ich habe die erste Seltsamkeit beim Booten gehabt. Hier hat das BIOS
gemeckert, daß die 2. Platte (also die mit der Terminierung) more than 64
heads hat. Tatsächlich lieferte das BIOS nur bei der ersten Platte die
erwarteten Werte 4357/64/32. Für die 2. Platte kamen 1020/141/62 heraus!
Nach einem Tastendruck habe ich weitergemacht.

Ich hatte das selbe Problem mit den gleichen Platten.
Mach ein BIOS-Update des Tekram-Controllers. Dann ist Ruhe dmait.
Auf der Tekram HP ist der Bug auch beschrieben.


Komischerweise meldet der SYM8x-Treiber für beide Platten die korrekte
Geometrie!

Das war bei mir auch so.

Woran kann das liegen? An einem anderen Board kann sich der Controller
doch nicht stören? Und sein BIOS bringt der Tekram ja mit.

s.o.

HTH

 ciao

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[debian] Problem mit dpkg

2002-03-01 Thread ecky

Hallo,

ich hab hier ein kleines Problem mit dpkg beim installieren von 
zwei Paketen.
Das debian ist ein potato 2.2r5 und die Pakete sind xserver-common und

xserver-xfree86, und zwar die inoffizellen 4.1.0'er von
http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/.
Ja, ich weiß, mit denen sollte man grundsätzlich vorsichtig sein, aber
ich 
brauch halt XFree86 4.x, damit meine Grafikkarte unterstützt wird...

Beim installieren mit dselect kommt folgende Fehlermeldung:
---
Setting up xserver-common (4.1.0-9potato13) ...
Can't call method template on an undefined value at 
/usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/Question.pm line 251, GEN0 chunk 1.
dpkg: error processing xserver-common (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xfree86:
 xserver-xfree86 depends on xserver-common (= 4.1.0-9potato13);
however:
  Package xserver-common is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing xserver-xfree86 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xserver-common
 xserver-xfree86

installation script returned error exit status 100.
---

es scheint ein Problem mit einem von dpkg benötigten Perlscript zu geben

:-(.
Das komische daran ist, dass ich vorgestern erstmals alle Pakete von
XFree86 4.1.0 von besagter source installiert habe und dass es da
eigentlich fehlerfrei geklappt hat. Gestern wollte ich nur eine
Ungereimtheit mit suid abstellen, da sich dieses Paket irgendwie mit
xserver-common beißt.
Dazu wollte ich mehrfach xserver-common und xserver-xfree86
deinstallieren, es kam aber immer diese Fehlermeldung...

Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen? Wie krieg ich die beiden Pakete fertig
konfiguriert?

Danke vielmals im Voraus

Eckhard


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Debian problem on UltraSparc

2000-12-15 Thread Tommy Wu

  1. I've 1024MB RAM on my box. But when I use kernel 2.2.18, it won't boot 
correctly 
 except I add a append=mem=512m to let kernel use only 512MB. Is there 
any 
 configuration that I miss ? (I've try 2.4.0-test9 to test12, they will use 
all 
 1024MB RAM correctly)

  2. Does anyone use iptables on a sparc box ?
 I've try to use iptables on my space box for kernel 2.4.0-test9 to test12, 
but
 all of them don't work. When I load the ip_conntrack, ip_tables, 
iptable_nat
 modules, it will display a kernel bug message in my console like:

 bug: kernel timer added twice at 0110052c.

 And the NAT, Filter function for iptables won't work.
 The script I've used in my i386 box, it's ok and work fine.

 How to solve it ?

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Re: Debian problem on UltraSparc

2000-12-15 Thread Joshua Uziel
* Tommy Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001215 00:56]:
   1. I've 1024MB RAM on my box. But when I use kernel 2.2.18, it won't
  boot correctly except I add a append=mem=512m to let kernel use
  only 512MB. Is there any configuration that I miss ? (I've try
  2.4.0-test9 to test12, they will use all 1024MB RAM correctly)

This is expected and known... your only options are to use only 512MB of
RAM with 2.2.x or to have all 1024MB with 2.4.0-testX kernel.



Re: Debian problem on UltraSparc

2000-12-15 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:33:57AM -0800, Joshua Uziel wrote:
 * Tommy Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001215 00:56]:
1. I've 1024MB RAM on my box. But when I use kernel 2.2.18, it won't
   boot correctly except I add a append=mem=512m to let kernel use
   only 512MB. Is there any configuration that I miss ? (I've try
   2.4.0-test9 to test12, they will use all 1024MB RAM correctly)
 
 This is expected and known... your only options are to use only 512MB of
 RAM with 2.2.x or to have all 1024MB with 2.4.0-testX kernel.

That's strange. We have an Ultra60 with 1.5 gigs running under 2.2.17-pre20
with no problems. Why the difference?

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Re: Debian problem on UltraSparc

2000-12-15 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:09:34PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:33:57AM -0800, Joshua Uziel wrote:
  * Tommy Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001215 00:56]:
 1. I've 1024MB RAM on my box. But when I use kernel 2.2.18, it won't
boot correctly except I add a append=mem=512m to let kernel use
only 512MB. Is there any configuration that I miss ? (I've try
2.4.0-test9 to test12, they will use all 1024MB RAM correctly)
  
  This is expected and known... your only options are to use only 512MB of
  RAM with 2.2.x or to have all 1024MB with 2.4.0-testX kernel.
 
 That's strange. We have an Ultra60 with 1.5 gigs running under 2.2.17-pre20
 with no problems. Why the difference?

Different PCI chipset. You basically have either PSYCHO, which has 32K
entries in IOMMU TSB, or SABRA, which has either 8K, 16K or 32K (depending
on which box this is). You can either set 8K or 64K granularity in this
translation table. 2.2.x uses 64K and sets 1:1 mapping of all memory in this
table, which means you can have at most 2GB (resp. 1GB resp. .5GB) of OS
usable memory. 2.4.x does dynamic DMA mapping (so this is history).

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Re: Debian problem

2000-09-08 Thread Shaul Karl
Debian 2.2 was just released. Not sure if it is not worth to skip 2.1 and start 
with 2.2. In any case perhaps you should try to unplugged each CDROM (and then 
both) to see if they are the cause of the hang (or have you done so already)?
---BeginMessage---



Greetings. I just bought Debian 2.1, It won't load. 
It recognize everything up to mytwo CDrom drives then It freezes up. I 
currently am running FreeBSD on aseperate box. It will load on that box. The 
box that I'm putting it oncurrent has Win98 and Redhat. I was planning on 
going full blown DebianLinux )no windows). But it keep freezing up during 
the booting process.I unplugged everything, pulled all the pci cards, 
Memory, video card, and swappedstuff from the FreeBSD box nothing 
works!The box I want Debian on: Athlon 500Mhz, FIC SD11 Motherboard, 128 
megs ram,10gig harddrive, Geforce video card, CDRW, CDrom, floppyThe box 
my FreeBSD is on: Dual PII 266Mhz, 4gig harddrive, 32 megs ram, twoplain 
CDrom, ISA 512K Video card (It will install on this box, But I wantFreeBSD 
to stay on it.I was thinking of install it on My freebsd box then swapping 
harddrives.James
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Re: Debian problem

2000-09-08 Thread James Johnson
I unplugged the cdroms, I even swap out cd roms
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Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: Debian problem


 Debian 2.2 was just released. Not sure if it is not worth to skip 2.1 and
start with 2.2. In any case perhaps you should try to unplugged each CDROM
(and then both) to see if they are the cause of the hang (or have you done
so already)?








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Re: Debian problem

2000-09-08 Thread Wouter Hanegraaff
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:35:29PM -0400, James Johnson wrote:
 Greetings.
 I just bought Debian 2.1, It won't load. It recognize everything up to my
 two CDrom drives then It freezes up. I currently am running FreeBSD on a

[snip]

 The box I want Debian on: Athlon 500Mhz, FIC SD11 Motherboard, 128 megs ram,
 10gig harddrive, Geforce video card, CDRW, CDrom, floppy

The kernel used by the installation program of debian 2.1 doesn't
support the athlon. The easiest solution is to use the last release, 2.2
aka Potato. That's probably what you want anyway.

Wouter



Debian problem

2000-09-07 Thread James Johnson



Greetings. I just bought Debian 2.1, It won't load. 
It recognize everything up to mytwo CDrom drives then It freezes up. I 
currently am running FreeBSD on aseperate box. It will load on that box. The 
box that I'm putting it oncurrent has Win98 and Redhat. I was planning on 
going full blown DebianLinux )no windows). But it keep freezing up during 
the booting process.I unplugged everything, pulled all the pci cards, 
Memory, video card, and swappedstuff from the FreeBSD box nothing 
works!The box I want Debian on: Athlon 500Mhz, FIC SD11 Motherboard, 128 
megs ram,10gig harddrive, Geforce video card, CDRW, CDrom, floppyThe box 
my FreeBSD is on: Dual PII 266Mhz, 4gig harddrive, 32 megs ram, twoplain 
CDrom, ISA 512K Video card (It will install on this box, But I wantFreeBSD 
to stay on it.I was thinking of install it on My freebsd box then swapping 
harddrives.James


Re: Debian problem

2000-09-07 Thread John Anderson
I had a similar problem with Debian 2.1 on an IBM PC 350 /w a 166 mhz
processor.  It had know special cards.  I found that Debian 2.2 would work
on it because it uses the 2.2 kernel and that particular computer has a
bug which the 2.2 kernel recognised.  Try downloading on your FreeBSD
machine a boot floppy for Debian 2.2 and see if that solves the problem.


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On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, James Johnson wrote:

 Greetings.
 I just bought Debian 2.1, It won't load. It recognize everything up to my
 two CDrom drives then It freezes up. I currently am running FreeBSD on a
 seperate box. It will load on that box. The box that I'm putting it on
 current has Win98 and Redhat. I was planning on going full blown Debian
 Linux )no windows). But it keep freezing up during the booting process.
 I unplugged everything, pulled all the pci cards, Memory, video card, and  
 swapped
 stuff from the FreeBSD box nothing works!
 The box I want Debian on: Athlon 500Mhz, FIC SD11 Motherboard, 128 megs ram,
 10gig harddrive, Geforce video card, CDRW, CDrom, floppy
 The box my FreeBSD is on: Dual PII 266Mhz, 4gig harddrive, 32 megs ram, two
 plain CDrom, ISA 512K Video card (It will install on this box, But I want
 FreeBSD to stay on it.
 I was thinking of install it on My freebsd box then swapping harddrives.
 James
 
 



Debian problem

2000-03-16 Thread Hoppe, Edward J.
I recently upgraded to Debian GNU/Linux version 2.1(slink) from an
earlier version.  The earlier version had a problem that I thought 2.1 would
solve, but the problem still exists:  I get a segmentation fault when I
issue the procinfo command, and the following message appears:

procinfo:  Symbol 'sys_siglist' has different size in shared object,
consider re-linking
Linux 2.0.35 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc 2.7.2.3)  #1 Wed Feb 17 20:37:03 CET 1999
[matrix]

Memory: Total   UsedFreeShared
Buffers Cached
Mem:159164  153588  557668616
99792   19928
Swap:   130684  28  130656


Bootup:  Thu Mar 16 10:04:04 2000   Load average:  0.07 0.02 0.00 3/82
1490
[Segmentation fault]

I'm not sure what it means to re-link, and I don't know what else to
do.  Could you offer some suggestions.

Thanks,
Benjamin Shiflet


Hi.. perhaps someone can help me with this Debian problem?

1999-06-11 Thread Marc-Adrian Napoli
Hi there,

I'm just having a problem trying to restore this backup. Please read on:

We have SCSI-2 tape here backing up daily. mt status gives the following..

newmi5:/mrtg-2.5.2# mt status
drive type = Generic SCSI-2 tape
drive status = 620756992
sense key error = 0
residue count = 0
file number = 0
block number = 5
Tape block size 0 bytes. Density code 0x25 (unknown).
Soft error count since last status=0
General status bits on (101):
 ONLINE IM_REP_EN
newmi5:/mrtg-2.5.2#

The backup script is as follows.

echo Full incremental backup (`/bin/pwd`/$0)
/bin/mt rewind
echo tape rewound
echo 
/sbin/dump 0udsbf 61000 20480 126 /dev/nst0 /x2
echo 
/sbin/dump 0udsbf 61000 20480 126 /dev/nst0 /
echo 
date
echo all dumps finished
#/bin/mt offline
#echo tape rewound and unloaded
echo 


Now, apparently it is backing up okay. However, when I go to do a
restore -if /dev/nst0 i get the
following..

newmi5:/mrtg-2.5.2# restore -if /dev/nst0
Cannot find file dump list

Any ideas? All help is very much appreciated!

Regards,

Marc-Adrian Napoli
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Updating /etc/modules (was Re: Wierd linux/debian problem)

1998-04-29 Thread Chris


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
  Yes .. ne was in /etc/modules .. and so it tried to load it on
  top of the kernel one .. 
  
  Shouldnt make modules_install write over this file or something .. or
  be made too ?? with the up to date modules to run.
 
 I don't believe it should.  There are times when I want a module available
 but don't necessarily want to load the module all the time.  Also, the
 /etc/modules file is a Debian creation.  Other distrbutions don't have a
 /etc/modules file, at least the last time I checked.  RedHat and Slackware
 seem to stick modules to load in some rc.* file, from what I recall.
 
 Changing make module_install to overwrite /etc/modules is a bad idea, I 
 think.  I would prefer that the make modules_install behavior remain
 unaltered.
 
 My $0.02  :)
 
 -Ossama

Perhaps we could consider having make moudles_install disable (ie
comment out) any modules mentioned in /etc/modules that are not compiled
into the current kernel.  I would suggest that this shouldn't be done
automatically, but should instead prompt the user for the change.

Just a suggestion :)

Chris


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Re: Updating /etc/modules (was Re: Wierd linux/debian problem)

1998-04-29 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

 Perhaps we could consider having make moudles_install disable (ie
 comment out) any modules mentioned in /etc/modules that are not compiled
 into the current kernel.  I would suggest that this shouldn't be done
 automatically, but should instead prompt the user for the change.

This sounds interesting.  How would this be integrated into Debian without
messing around with the Kernel makefiles?  I'm assuming that we want to
leave the kernel source in a vanilla state.  Does Debian use a vanilla
version of the kernel sources or does it modify them some way, besides
standard patches?

What would be really nice is a Debianized kernel
configuration/build/install front end to make it easier for newbies to
configure the kernel and install modules.  ...wishful thinking, I know.
:)

-Ossama



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Re: Updating /etc/modules (was Re: Wierd linux/debian problem)

1998-04-29 Thread Chris


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Ossama Othman wrote:

 Hi,
 
  Perhaps we could consider having make moudles_install disable (ie
  comment out) any modules mentioned in /etc/modules that are not compiled
  into the current kernel.  I would suggest that this shouldn't be done
  automatically, but should instead prompt the user for the change.
 
 This sounds interesting.  How would this be integrated into Debian without
 messing around with the Kernel makefiles?  I'm assuming that we want to
 leave the kernel source in a vanilla state.  Does Debian use a vanilla
 version of the kernel sources or does it modify them some way, besides
 standard patches?
 
 What would be really nice is a Debianized kernel
 configuration/build/install front end to make it easier for newbies to
 configure the kernel and install modules.  ...wishful thinking, I know.
 :)
 
 -Ossama
 

Hmmmmust admit I forgot that the kernel source was not Debianized.
Another suggestion may be to modify depmod (or modprobe) to verify that
the module is not statically compiled first before it begins attempting to
load the module.alternately we just leave it all alone and remember
clean /etc/modules ourselves ;)

Chris


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Wierd linux/debian problem

1998-04-28 Thread NiNJA
Hey again,

Thanks for all the fast replies .. 

Yes .. ne was in /etc/modules .. and so it tried to load it on
top of the kernel one .. 

Shouldnt make modules_install write over this file or something .. or
be made too ?? with the up to date modules to run.

Anyways .. the ether card doesnt look like its the problem .. 

With only the following lines in /etc/init.d/netork :

#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0

ie. only loopback .. still get operation not permitted .. 
Had to check my sanity .. and make sure networking was compiled in
the Kernel with everything .. it was .. saved config .. then recompiled
installed etc, just in case .. still no luck.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
127.0.0.0   *   255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ping 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
ping: wrote 127.0.0.1 64 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
ping: wrote 127.0.0.1 64 chars, ret=-1

--- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifconfig
loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 carrier:0 coll:0

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Re: Wierd linux/debian problem

1998-04-28 Thread Ossama Othman

Hi,

 Yes .. ne was in /etc/modules .. and so it tried to load it on
 top of the kernel one .. 
 
 Shouldnt make modules_install write over this file or something .. or
 be made too ?? with the up to date modules to run.

I don't believe it should.  There are times when I want a module available
but don't necessarily want to load the module all the time.  Also, the
/etc/modules file is a Debian creation.  Other distrbutions don't have a
/etc/modules file, at least the last time I checked.  RedHat and Slackware
seem to stick modules to load in some rc.* file, from what I recall.

Changing make module_install to overwrite /etc/modules is a bad idea, I 
think.  I would prefer that the make modules_install behavior remain
unaltered.

My $0.02  :)

-Ossama


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Re: installing debian problem

1998-03-11 Thread shaul
 what is a image file?
The meaning of an image file depends on the context. In the context of 
installing debian it means a file that is a bit by bit copy of another file. 
This is needed bacuase OSs tend to add headers and other signs for varuios 
files. For example, DOS will add the ^Z character to mark the end of a text 
file.

 in the inital boot medium, i use loadlin to boot install from a dos system.
 i used the command:- loadlin linux root=dev/ram initrd=root.bin
 but i got a error message of:-
 not a image file
 please enter name of kernel image file followed by optional commmand line
 parametersf for linux

 the linux file i got was from the debian ftp site. (normal linux file)
A more usual syntax is /dev/ram insraed of dev/ram but it seems that dev/ram 
is working for you. As to the image file, I can't tell exactly.
In this context it probably means that loadlin does not recognize your linux 
file to be one of the files and formats it expects. Try to see if the size of 
your linux file matches *exactly* the size of the file on the ftp site.
 

 also i'm using win95 also. if i install debian, can i keep it  use it too?
 will it affect it in anyway.  i have set aside a empty partition of 1 gb
 free for debian. is it enough? how do u create a swap partition? from the
 same partition? i spent 3 days working on this  i still can't get it to work.

The 1G partition is more then enough. You could keep your WIN95 and run either 
Linux or WIN95. The creation of the swap partition should be easy once you can 
boot into Linux and start the installation process.

 P.S do anyone of u know if red hat or debian can be bought in southeast
 asia(singapore)?
I beleive that both Red Hat and Debian could be bought in syngapore. Try to 
look at their www home pages. In any case, one can always mail order them, 
should be less then $20, mostly for shipping.

I hope it helps. 


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installing debian problem

1998-03-10 Thread kaiwei
what is a image file?
in the inital boot medium, i use loadlin to boot install from a dos system.
i used the command:- loadlin linux root=dev/ram initrd=root.bin
but i got a error message of:-
not a image file
please enter name of kernel image file followed by optional commmand line
parametersf for linux

the linux file i got was from the debian ftp site. (normal linux file)

also i'm using win95 also. if i install debian, can i keep it  use it too?
will it affect it in anyway.  i have set aside a empty partition of 1 gb
free for debian. is it enough? how do u create a swap partition? from the
same partition? i spent 3 days working on this  i still can't get it to work.

please help me  explain to me in plain english how to install linux?!!!

P.S do anyone of u know if red hat or debian can be bought in southeast
asia(singapore)?


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Re: installing debian problem

1998-03-10 Thread David Stern
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:10:10 +0800, kaiwei wrote:
 what is a image file?

It's an image of a disk (each track is copied, even if empty).  To 
use it, you'll need the utility rawrite.exe, which can be found in 
the /dosutils directory.  Read the README file which accompanies it for 
more info.

 in the inital boot medium, i use loadlin to boot install from a dos system.
 i used the command:- loadlin linux root=dev/ram initrd=root.bin
 but i got a error message of:-
 not a image file
 please enter name of kernel image file followed by optional commmand line
 parametersf for linux
 the linux file i got was from the debian ftp site. (normal linux file)

I have no practical experience with loadlin.

 also i'm using win95 also. if i install debian, can i keep it  use it too?
 will it affect it in anyway.  i have set aside a empty partition of 1 gb
 free for debian. is it enough? how do u create a swap partition? from the
 same partition? i spent 3 days working on this  i still can't get it to work

What I recommend is to put the lilo on the Linux / (i.e.: the root 
partition). By default, lilo installs onto the MasterBootRecord, where 
the win95 boot record lives.  If you accept this option, it will write 
over your win95 bootloader.  There may be a backup copy of the MBR you 
can restore (or not, depending), but if you put lilo on the linux root 
partition, each bootloader has it's own space.  Then you can make an 
entry for win95 in the lilo menu, so you won't need to change the 
bootable partition under ordinary conditions.  Don't forget to flag the 
lilo partition as bootable.

You create all your partitions during installation using the Linux 
fdisk utility, which has some built-in help. Here are some docs which 
thoroughly cover installation:

  Installing Debian
  ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/stable/disks-i386/current/install.html

  Debian Linux User's Guide
  http://www.linuxpress.com/001001.htm

  Debian Installation and Getting Started
  http://www.ssc.com/lg/issue15/debian.html

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Re: Debian Problem after Compiling Kernel

1997-12-08 Thread Oliver Elphick
Vaibhav Goel wrote:...
  I installed Debian 1.3.1 off the InfoMagic Developers CD.  This release
  incorporates the 2.0.29 kernel.  Installation goes without a hitch.
  Everything works fine.  I download the latest developers kernel (2.1.71)
  and compile it.  Everything seems to compile fine.  Upon reboot with the
  new kernel, I get the following error message
  
  SIOADDCRT: Invalid argument
  
  I have determined this to come from the following command which is issued
  in /etc/init.d/network.
  
  route add -net ${NETWORK}
  
  Here is what my /etc/init.d/network file looks like
  
  
  #!  /bin/sh
  ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
  route add -net 127.0.0.0
  IPADDR=204.69.208.4
  NETMASK=255.255.255.0
  NETWORK=204.69.208.0
  BROADCAST=204.69.208.255
  GATEWAY=204.69.208.1
  ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
  route add -net ${NETWORK}
  [ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
  
  
  Please note that this exact same file works great with the CD installed
  kernel (ie precompiled kernel).  I have tried downloading and compiling
  2.0.30 but I get the same error.
  
  Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Since your set-up works with the pre-compiled kernel, it follows that you
have a problem either with the configuration of your own kernel or in the
loading of modules.

Have you enabled ethernet in the kernel as well as incorporating a driver
for your particular network card?

If you have configured these as modules, are you either running kerneld to
load them automatically when required, or else running modprobe at boot time
to load them once and for all?

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RE: Debian Problem after Compiling Kernel

1997-12-08 Thread Paul Rightley
I am no expert, but...

Are you sure that you compile the correct driver for your
networking card into the new kernel?  I get errors like
this after I have recompiled the kernel with the wrong
ethernet card driver.  If you think you did this correctly,
did you compile the driver as a module?  Are you sure that
it is loaded early enough in the boot process?  (I usually 
compile networking into the kernel - since memory is cheap.)

HTH,

Paul

On 07-Dec-97 Vaibhav Goel wrote:

Hi;

I posted about this a couple of weeks ago and someone responded with
apossible solution.  But this did not seem to work so here I go again.  I
would really appreciate it if someone could help me out here.

I installed Debian 1.3.1 off the InfoMagic Developers CD.  This release
incorporates the 2.0.29 kernel.  Installation goes without a hitch.
Everything works fine.  I download the latest developers kernel (2.1.71)
and compile it.  Everything seems to compile fine.  Upon reboot with the
new kernel, I get the following error message

SIOADDCRT: Invalid argument

I have determined this to come from the following command which is issued
in /etc/init.d/network.

route add -net ${NETWORK}

Here is what my /etc/init.d/network file looks like


#!  /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=204.69.208.4
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=204.69.208.0
BROADCAST=204.69.208.255
GATEWAY=204.69.208.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1


Please note that this exact same file works great with the CD installed
kernel (ie precompiled kernel).  I have tried downloading and compiling
2.0.30 but I get the same error.

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Regards,
Vaibhav



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Debian Problem after Compiling Kernel

1997-12-07 Thread Vaibhav Goel

Hi;

I posted about this a couple of weeks ago and someone responded with
apossible solution.  But this did not seem to work so here I go again.  I
would really appreciate it if someone could help me out here.

I installed Debian 1.3.1 off the InfoMagic Developers CD.  This release
incorporates the 2.0.29 kernel.  Installation goes without a hitch.
Everything works fine.  I download the latest developers kernel (2.1.71)
and compile it.  Everything seems to compile fine.  Upon reboot with the
new kernel, I get the following error message

SIOADDCRT: Invalid argument

I have determined this to come from the following command which is issued
in /etc/init.d/network.

route add -net ${NETWORK}

Here is what my /etc/init.d/network file looks like


#!  /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=204.69.208.4
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=204.69.208.0
BROADCAST=204.69.208.255
GATEWAY=204.69.208.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1


Please note that this exact same file works great with the CD installed
kernel (ie precompiled kernel).  I have tried downloading and compiling
2.0.30 but I get the same error.

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Regards,
Vaibhav



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Debian Problem after compiling kernel

1997-11-27 Thread Vaibhav Goel
Hello;

I recently obtained and installed Debian 1.3.1 off the InfoMagic
CD.  It installs kernel 2.0.29.  I then downloaded and
compiled kernel ver 2.1.62 and 2.1.63 and upon booting
I get the following error:

SIOCADDRT: Invalid Arguement
SIOCADDRT: Invalid Arguement

After looking around for some time I determined, this
problem occurs when the bootup procedure is executing
the file /etc/init.d/network.

Basically, I believe its a problem related to the Ethernet card.
Its a generic 10baseT NE2000 card.  The card is recognized
fine on bootup and the module is compiled.  I see the
autoprobe coming back with the IRQ of the card.

Below is what my networks file looks like.  Can someone
help me target the problem?  When I boot with kernel 2.0.29
that was installed with Debian, things work just fine.  Am i
doing something wrong while compiling the kernel?

Thanks in advance,

Vaibhav Goel

#---begin /etc/network
#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=204.69.208.4
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=204.69.208.0
BROADCAST=204.69.208.255
GATEWAY=
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1



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Re: Debian Problem after compiling kernel

1997-11-27 Thread Wintermute


Vaibhav Goel wrote:

 #! /bin/sh
 ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
 route add -net 127.0.0.0
 IPADDR=204.69.208.4
 NETMASK=255.255.255.0
 NETWORK=204.69.208.0
 BROADCAST=204.69.208.255
 GATEWAY=
 ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
 route add -net ${NETWORK}
 [ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1


Well right off the top of my skull I'd say that your problem is the fact
that there is no gateway specified to ifconfig, so ifconfig is seeing you
try to pass metric as a value for 'gw' since GATEWAY is being left blank
and barfing.  Try putting your correct gateway in the GATEWAY= line and try
it again.




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Re: Debian Problem after compiling kernel

1997-11-27 Thread Luka Pravica
Vaibhav Goel wrote:
 
 Hello;
 
 I recently obtained and installed Debian 1.3.1 off the InfoMagic
 CD.  It installs kernel 2.0.29.  I then downloaded and
 compiled kernel ver 2.1.62 and 2.1.63 and upon booting
 I get the following error:
 
 SIOCADDRT: Invalid Arguement
 SIOCADDRT: Invalid Arguement
 
 After looking around for some time I determined, this
 problem occurs when the bootup procedure is executing
 the file /etc/init.d/network.
 
 Basically, I believe its a problem related to the Ethernet card.
 Its a generic 10baseT NE2000 card.  The card is recognized
 fine on bootup and the module is compiled.  I see the
 autoprobe coming back with the IRQ of the card.
 
 Below is what my networks file looks like.  Can someone
 help me target the problem?  When I boot with kernel 2.0.29
 that was installed with Debian, things work just fine.  Am i
 doing something wrong while compiling the kernel?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Vaibhav Goel
 
 #---begin /etc/network
 #! /bin/sh
 ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
 route add -net 127.0.0.0
 IPADDR=204.69.208.4
 NETMASK=255.255.255.0
 NETWORK=204.69.208.0
 BROADCAST=204.69.208.255
 GATEWAY=
 ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
 route add -net ${NETWORK}
 [ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
 
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Perhaps it lies on the unstable kernel you are using (ver2.1).

If you don't need any special feature from it, try downloading stable
version v2.0.32.


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Daniel Mashao [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Since I used procmail I am relieved because only important messages
 and many junk emails end-up in my main folder. Now if I can find a
 way to get rid of the junk emails.

Much of the spam aren't addressed to you directly. 

Make a list of all the addresses and mailinglists to which you get
mail, filter that mail into list.debian, mail.private, and similar.
Leave the rest in mail.unsorted and take a look in that once a week,
to see if anything important has slipped through.

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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-24 Thread Peter Prohaska
I get my feed by uucp and use procmail to look up lists.debian.org!* in
the From -line. Works fine.

peter  

  I suggest you sort on X-Mailing-List: rather than To:
 
 Yes, using characters out of To: does seem kind of pointless.  THere's plenty 
 of filtering software out there.
 
 rick
 
 
 
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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-23 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Tommy Lakofski wrote:

 You might like to try using procmail to filter your messages.
 
I am not an expert on this but my procmail filter puts all me emails with
the address debian-user@lists.debian.org to a folder called debian. It
does not matter whether this is in To: or Cc; etc

here are the lines I use
 
:0
*  debian-user@lists.debian.org
debian

Since I used procmail I am relieved because only important messages and
many junk emails end-up in my main folder. Now if I can find a way to get
rid of the junk emails.

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spam filter (was Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages...)

1997-11-23 Thread robert havoc pennington

On 23 Nov 1997, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
 Much of the spam aren't addressed to you directly. 
 
 Make a list of all the addresses and mailinglists to which you get
 mail, filter that mail into list.debian, mail.private, and similar.
 Leave the rest in mail.unsorted and take a look in that once a week,
 to see if anything important has slipped through.
 

An alternative approach is this, which I copied from someone else, I don't
know where it originally came from. This doesn't require you to make a
list of people you get mail from, so you can still get mail from
unanticipated but non-spam sources. It works pretty well, but occasionally
misses a spam or junks a real email. I'd say it gets 90% of spam and junks
1% of real mail, though I filter all list email before this recipe so it
never has a chance to junk that. 

If nothing else it's really funny to read, I think. Shows how cliche and
formulaic most spam is.

Havoc Pennington

procmail recipe to catch spam:

:0D:
* ^Subject:.* FREE .*
$MAILDIR/junk-folder
 
:0:
*^Subject:.* lifestyle *change
$MAILDIR/junk-folder
 
:0:
*^TO.*friend
$MAILDIR/junk-folder
 
:0B:
*!!!
$MAILDIR/junk-folder
 
:0B:
*-150^0
*50^0 ^Dear (friend|net surfer)[:,]?^
*100^2 limited .*offer
*50^1 to order( please)? call
*50^1 free
*5^2 (wealth|money|income|cash|dollar|\$[\$1-9])
*2^2 !
*100^2 act now supplies are.*limited
*100^1 never (ever )?(have to)? pay for .* again
*200^1 remove.* in .*subject
*100^2 reply with .* in .*subject
*100^2 free.*(trial|info)
*300^1 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*200^2 wealth[ -]building
*100^2 (income|money[ -]making|business) (opportunit|system|method)
*100^2 (no|minimal) (outlay|investment|skills|training|experience)
*200^2 (instant|overnight) wealth
*100^2 now, with .*, you can
*100^2 not a (chain letter|pyramid scheme|scam)
*200^2 couldn't.*make ends meet
*100^.5 I owed.*over \$[1-9]+0*(,000)+
*200^2 .*(turn|convert).*\$[0-9]+ into \$[1-9\$]+
*100^2 (ma[kd]e|bec[oa]me).*million( dollars|aire)
*100^2 make.*(money|dollars)
*500^2 (money|dollars|\$+[0-9,.$]+).*\
 (fast|immediately|quickly|(((with)?in|per|every).*(day|week|wks|month|short 
time)))
*200^2 after .*, i decided to open my own business
*500^2 multi-level (sales|marketing)
*100^2 satisfaction.*guaranteed
*100^2 (lose weight|weight loss)
*50^2 herbal
*100^2 (18 years old|18 and over|over 18)
*500^2 adult service
*100^2 (nude|naked|topless|sex)
$MAILDIR/junk-folder










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[DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Marcus Lam
May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some convention in
sending messages to the list?  I found it very difficult to
differentiate between the messages from this Debian list and those from
other lists.   I used to sort it by the To field of the message, but
later I found out there are messages arrived at my INBOX that are not
sent TO the official list address debian-user@lists.debian.org.
Sometimes these messages are TO some other Debian or Linux list
addresses but other times they are TO a person.  This makes me feel
puzzled.  But maybe I join the list for a short time only.  So could
someone tell me what should I do to properly sort those messages from
THIS Debian list?  Could we simply use a convention in the message
Subject field, like what I saw someone's doing (like the one in THIS
message)?





Best Regards

Marcus Lam ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Sten Anderson
Marcus Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some convention in
 sending messages to the list?  I found it very difficult to
 differentiate between the messages from this Debian list and those from
 other lists.   I used to sort it by the To field of the message, but
 later I found out there are messages arrived at my INBOX that are not
 sent TO the official list address debian-user@lists.debian.org.
 Sometimes these messages are TO some other Debian or Linux list
 addresses but other times they are TO a person.  This makes me feel
 puzzled.  But maybe I join the list for a short time only.  So could
 someone tell me what should I do to properly sort those messages from
 THIS Debian list?  Could we simply use a convention in the message
 Subject field, like what I saw someone's doing (like the one in THIS
 message)?
 

It would be stupid to enforce restrictions like that on the
messages. Your sorting problems should be solved in another way. I
suggest you sort by the resent field. All messages in this list
contain the header: Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

- Sten Anderson


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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Tommy Lakofski
You might like to try using procmail to filter your messages.

TL

On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Marcus Lam wrote:

 From: Marcus Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:51:43 +0800
 Subject: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list
 
 May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some convention in
 sending messages to the list?  I found it very difficult to
 differentiate between the messages from this Debian list and those from
 other lists.   I used to sort it by the To field of the message, but
 later I found out there are messages arrived at my INBOX that are not
 sent TO the official list address debian-user@lists.debian.org.
 Sometimes these messages are TO some other Debian or Linux list
 addresses but other times they are TO a person.  This makes me feel
 puzzled.  But maybe I join the list for a short time only.  So could
 someone tell me what should I do to properly sort those messages from
 THIS Debian list?  Could we simply use a convention in the message
 Subject field, like what I saw someone's doing (like the one in THIS
 message)?


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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
  May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some convention in
  sending messages to the list?  I found it very difficult to
  differentiate between the messages from this Debian list and those from
  other lists.   I used to sort it by the To field of the message, but
  later I found out there are messages arrived at my INBOX that are not
  sent TO the official list address debian-user@lists.debian.org.
  Sometimes these messages are TO some other Debian or Linux list
  addresses but other times they are TO a person.  This makes me feel
  puzzled.  But maybe I join the list for a short time only.  So could
  someone tell me what should I do to properly sort those messages from
  THIS Debian list?  Could we simply use a convention in the message
  Subject field, like what I saw someone's doing (like the one in THIS
  message)?
  
 
 It would be stupid to enforce restrictions like that on the
 messages. Your sorting problems should be solved in another way. I
 suggest you sort by the resent field. All messages in this list
 contain the header: Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

You can also sort on the X-Mailing-List: header.
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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Mike Miller
 marcus == Marcus Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does
 not understand this format, some or all of this message may
 not be legible.

Hmmm, my MUA /does/ understand MIME.  Maybe your's just doesn't
know that.

 May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some
 convention in sending messages to the list?  

I suggest you sort on X-Mailing-List: rather than To:


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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Jason Costomiris
On Sat, Nov 22, 1997 at 11:51:43AM +0800, Marcus Lam wrote:
: May I suggest all subscribers of this Debian list use some convention in
: sending messages to the list?  I found it very difficult to
: differentiate between the messages from this Debian list and those from
: other lists.   I used to sort it by the To field of the message, but
: later I found out there are messages arrived at my INBOX that are not
: sent TO the official list address debian-user@lists.debian.org.
: Sometimes these messages are TO some other Debian or Linux list
: addresses but other times they are TO a person.  This makes me feel
: puzzled.  But maybe I join the list for a short time only.  So could
: someone tell me what should I do to properly sort those messages from
: THIS Debian list?  Could we simply use a convention in the message
: Subject field, like what I saw someone's doing (like the one in THIS
: message)?

:0:
* ^Resent.*debian-user
$HOME/mail/debian-user

Oh, and could you stop sending M$ Rich text messages?  The 
application/x-ms-tnef attachments are annoying.


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Re: [DEBIAN] Problem on filtering messages from the list

1997-11-22 Thread Rick Hawkins

 
 I suggest you sort on X-Mailing-List: rather than To:

Yes, using characters out of To: does seem kind of pointless.  THere's plenty 
of filtering software out there.

rick



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Re: Installing Debian Problem: can't see parallel port CD

1997-07-03 Thread Christian Leutloff
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Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 A friend of mine wants to install Debian on his laptop.  He recently
 ordered the CDs and tried to install it using a CD drive attached to
 his parallel port.  He tells me that unfortunately linux didn't
 recognise the parallel port, or atleast, couldn't access his CD through
 it.  Any ideas?
 
 I'm sorry this information is a bit vague at the moment, but I haven't
 been able to have a personal look at it yet.  My friend is actually a
 senior member of the mathematics department of my university and has a
 fair degree of influence, so it would be good to have him become a Debian
 user.  However if he can't get Debian working soon, I suspect he will go
 for another distribution.

that wont help because *linux* don't support the parallel port scsi
CD-ROM 8-(

That's my problem too. It's possible to start linux form dos from the
CD, but afterwards you can't access the CD-ROM. The SCSI-HOWWO
mentioned that there will never be support for parallel port CD-ROMs.

I'll go over a parallel ZIP drive which works with linux - or have you
a better idea?? My problem is: How can I arrange Debian on a 100 MB
floppy to get no dependency errors?

Bye
  Christian

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Re: Installing Debian Problem: can't see parallel port CD

1997-07-03 Thread Mark Phillips
On 2 Jul 1997, Christian Leutloff wrote:

 that wont help because *linux* don't support the parallel port scsi
 CD-ROM 8-(
 
 That's my problem too. It's possible to start linux form dos from the
 CD, but afterwards you can't access the CD-ROM. The SCSI-HOWWO
 mentioned that there will never be support for parallel port CD-ROMs.

I had a look at the SCSI-HOWTO and it seems to say that parallel port
CDs are not currently supported:

SCSI hosts that will not work :

  All parallel-SCSI adapters, Rancho SCSI boards, and Grass Roots SCSI
  boards.  BusLogic FlashPoint boards, such as the BT-930/932/950, are
  currently unsupported.

But it didn't put them in the category of SCSI hosts that will NEVER
work.  Doesn't this suggest that they may one day work?

Where did you read that there will never be support for them?

Anyway, thanks for your reply and tip about reading the SCSI-HOWTO.


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Re: Installing Debian Problem: can't see parallel port CD

1997-07-03 Thread Nils Rennebarth
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On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:
On 2 Jul 1997, Christian Leutloff wrote:
 that wont help because *linux* don't support the parallel port scsi
 CD-ROM 8-(
But it didn't put them in the category of SCSI hosts that will NEVER
work.  Doesn't this suggest that they may one day work?
Recently someone posted the following URL in this list:
 A HREF=http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.htmlLinux Paralles Port Home
Page/A

I had no luck with the Adaptec APA-348 and APA-358 but it was
considered pre alpha.

Nils

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Re: Installing Debian Problem: can't see parallel port CD

1997-07-03 Thread Adrian Phillips
 Mark == Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paralell port CDROM player questions

Check out the Linux parallel port page :

http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.html

(It depends on your CDROM)

Adrian


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Installing Debian Problem: can't see parallel port CD

1997-06-30 Thread Mark Phillips

Hi,

A friend of mine wants to install Debian on his laptop.  He recently
ordered the CDs and tried to install it using a CD drive attached to
his parallel port.  He tells me that unfortunately linux didn't
recognise the parallel port, or atleast, couldn't access his CD through
it.  Any ideas?

I'm sorry this information is a bit vague at the moment, but I haven't
been able to have a personal look at it yet.  My friend is actually a
senior member of the mathematics department of my university and has a
fair degree of influence, so it would be good to have him become a Debian
user.  However if he can't get Debian working soon, I suspect he will go
for another distribution.

Thanks,

Mark.

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