Re: No image from analog cameras with TW6816 video capture card.
A. F. Cano wrote: > > I hope this is the proper forum to post this. The more relevant lists > of years ago are no longer active: > > https://www.linuxtv.org/lists.php > > I'm trying to get these Lorex SR AIS color cameras, that are supposedly > capable of 1024 x 768 max and 728 x 488 NTSC, to work with a bluecherry > TW-220-8 board, identified by lshw as: > > Intersil Techwell TW6816 multimedia video controller Rev 10. > > The driver (tw68): > > The first suspicious thing is that the board is apparently not detected by the > kernel, or not identified as matching what the tw58 driver supports. Before a > manual > > modprobe -v tw68 Does v4l2-ctl --list-devices return anything useful? If so, do you then get useful things from v4l-info The existence of /dev/video? devices implies that the kernel has recognized the hardware to some extent. -dsr-
Re: [solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd
Just to compare, when Red Hat released 9.0 maybe 2 years ago (9.2 is current until 30 June) they disabled by default many older key-lengths and algorithms in SSL that were known to be weak. This caused issues for existing installations. You could either re-enable the weaker methods (easy but a pain to figure out courtesy of RH's layers of administration) or bite the bullet and re-key. On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, 5:51 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > On 01/06/2024 16:42, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version > OpenSSH_6.7p1 Debian-5 > > > > (I wonder what the string "Debian-5" may mean. The Debian 12 machine has > > debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_9.2p1 Debian-2+deb12u2 > > So "-5" is not the Debian version. > > Package version in bookworm: 1:9.2p1-2+deb12u2 > >
Re: [solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd
On 01/06/2024 16:42, Thomas Schmitt wrote: debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_6.7p1 Debian-5 (I wonder what the string "Debian-5" may mean. The Debian 12 machine has debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_9.2p1 Debian-2+deb12u2 So "-5" is not the Debian version. Package version in bookworm: 1:9.2p1-2+deb12u2
[solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd
Hi, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > If I am not mistaken, the problem you are experiencing is due to using > RSA/SHA-1 on the old machine. Max Nikulin wrote: > My reading of /usr/share/doc/openssh-client/NEWS.Debian.gz is that ssh-rsa > means SHA1 while clients offers SHA256 for the same id_rsa key. Indeed NEWS.Debian.gz links PubkeyAcceptedAlgorithms +ssh-rsa to RSA/SHA1. This is the explanation why the message does not say that ssh-rsa is disabled and why the web is so unclear about the ssh-rsa hash algorithm. So the Debian 12 client really offered the RSA key but not in a way the Debian 8 server could handle. The ssh -v messages have a line debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_6.7p1 Debian-5 (I wonder what the string "Debian-5" may mean. The Debian 12 machine has debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_9.2p1 Debian-2+deb12u2 So "-5" is not the Debian version. ) NEWS.Debian.gz says OpenSSH has supported RFC8332 RSA/SHA-256/512 signatures since release 7.2 and existing ssh-rsa keys will automatically use the stronger algorithm where possible. So the Debian 8 sshd is too old for a better ssh-rsa handshake and the connection might have been highjacked since 2022 "for
Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd
On 01/06/2024 01:52, Thomas Schmitt wrote: debug1: Offering public key:/home/.../.ssh/id_rsa RSA SHA256:... [...] The Debian 12 ssh client is obviously willing to try ssh-rsa. My reading of /usr/share/doc/openssh-client/NEWS.Debian.gz is that ssh-rsa means SHA1 while clients offers SHA256 for the same id_rsa key. * This release disables RSA signatures using the SHA-1 hash algorithm by default. This change has been made as the SHA-1 hash algorithm is cryptographically broken, and it is possible to create chosen-prefix hash collisions for
Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:08 PM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > i still have network access to a Debian 8 system, to which i logged in > from Debian 11 via ssh and a ssh-rsa key. After the upgrade to Debian 12 > ssh fails with this public key authentication. > The probably relevant messages from a run of ssh -vvv are: > > debug1: Offering public key: /home/.../.ssh/id_rsa RSA SHA256:... > debug1: send_pubkey_test: no mutual signature algorithm > > To my luck, the old sshd already supports ssh-ed25519 and i was able to > add the content of the Debian 12 id_ed25519.pub to the Debian 8 file > .ssh/authorized_keys2 . Now ssh to the Debian 8 machine works again. > > But i find this error message "no mutual signature algorithm" strange. > The Debian 12 ssh client is obviously willing to try ssh-rsa. > The Debian 8 sshd accepted that key from Debian 11. Why not from 12 ? > > In > https://www.openssh.com/releasenotes.html > i find for 9.2 or older only a RequiredRSASize directive of which > man sshd_config says the default is 1024. > The ssh-rsa key was generated by Debian 10. man ssh-keygen of buster > says the default of option -b with RSA was 2048. > (Does anybody know how to analyze a key file in regard to such > parameters ?) If I am not mistaken, the problem you are experiencing is due to using RSA/SHA-1 on the old machine. The RSA modulus is large enough, but the hash is weak. That change happened at OpenSSH 8.9. `ssh -vvv` should show the ciphers offered by the server and client. It should look something like: debug2: KEX algorithms: curve25519-sha256,curve25519-sha...@libssh.org,e cdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,sntrup761x25519- sha...@openssh.com,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-g roup16-sha512,diffie-hellman-group18-sha512,diffie-hellman-group14-sha25 6,ext-info-c,kex-strict-c-...@openssh.com debug2: host key algorithms: ssh-ed25519-cert-...@openssh.com,ecdsa-sha2 -nistp256-cert-...@openssh.com,ecdsa-sha2-nistp384-cert-...@openssh.com, ecdsa-sha2-nistp521-cert-...@openssh.com,sk-ssh-ed25519-cert-v01@openssh .com,sk-ecdsa-sha2-nistp256-cert-...@openssh.com,rsa-sha2-512-cert-v01@o penssh.com,rsa-sha2-256-cert-...@openssh.com,ssh-ed25519,ecdsa-sha2-nist p256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp384,ecdsa-sha2-nistp521,sk-ssh-ed25...@openssh.com, sk-ecdsa-sha2-nistp...@openssh.com,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256 Jeff
[solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd
Hi, the following line in ~/.ssh/config did the trick: PubkeyAcceptedAlgorithms +ssh-rsa This lets ssh -v report: debug1: Offering public key: /home/.../.ssh/id_rsa RSA SHA256:... debug1: Server accepts key: /home/.../.ssh/id_rsa RSA SHA256:... Authenticated to ... ([...]:22) using "publickey". and leads to a shell session on the Debian 8 machine. So the mere message debug1: Offering public key: /home/.../.ssh/id_rsa RSA SHA256:... does not mean that RSA would be acceptable on the client side. It would be nice if the refusal message would be somewhat clearer than debug1: send_pubkey_test: no mutual signature algorithm I wrote: > > The ssh-rsa key was generated by Debian 10. man ssh-keygen of buster > > says the default of option -b with RSA was 2048. > > (Does anybody know how to analyze a key file in regard to such > > parameters ?) Michael Kjörling wrote: > $ ssh-keygen -l -f $pubkeyfile Says "2048 SHA256:... ...@... (RSA)". (Now that i know the right option, i can suddenly see it in the man page.) Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd
On 31 May 2024 20:52 +0200, from scdbac...@gmx.net (Thomas Schmitt): > The ssh-rsa key was generated by Debian 10. man ssh-keygen of buster > says the default of option -b with RSA was 2048. > (Does anybody know how to analyze a key file in regard to such > parameters ?) $ ssh-keygen -l -f $pubkeyfile The first field of the output is the key length in bits (for RSA keys, this is the length of the modulus). -- Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid) [SOLVED]
In the end, the problem had nothing to do with APT pinning, mixing Debian flavors, nor anything else mentioned in the previous messages. I've just noticed that in my XFCE mixer there is a tab "Configuration", where you can set the audio profile. I don't even know what an audio profile is supposed to do, but somehow it was set to HDMI stereo digital output (I assume it happened somewhat automatically during last upgrade). I just switched it back to analog and I got my analog sound back.
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
Op 26-05-2024 om 15:26 schreef Michael Kjörling: Quite a few people run Debian testing. Some even as a daily driver. That's fine. But if you do, you need to keep in mind that it _is_ "testing". You can't expect the same level of stability as with the stable distribution. And you definitely need to pay close attention to what every upgrade wants to do to your system _especially_ in terms of removals. Absolutely. If something like that threatens to happen, I usually put the offending package on hold and check what issues that causes. That has worked well for me so far. The recent t64 switch period was... interesting.
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
Il 26/05/24 15:26, Michael Kjörling ha scritto: On 26 May 2024 13:08 +0200, from lu...@sulweb.org (Lucio Crusca): _Or_ you can see that [...] a power tool that requires understanding of the consequences of the results. I absolutely agree with you, but I feel like the point here (where "$here" == "in my topic") should a bit of a different one: granted, my system is "strange", or call it whatever you like, but, given this situation, and given that no one can really tell if the strangeness (APT pinning) is really the cause of my problem, does anybody have any suggestions for me that can help me solve the problem? And no, "reinstall from scratch and forget APT pinning" is not the solution I'm looking for: I already know I could do that, but I'm more interested in understanding what went wrong. I can even live without sound while I try to understand that. In other words, assuming your system were to behave like mine, what would you do to understand why it detects the audio device, but not the analog output sink?
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
On 26 May 2024 13:08 +0200, from lu...@sulweb.org (Lucio Crusca): > Sometimes it happens some packages get automatically removed from Debian > testing (for example because of rc-bugs), so if you ever need one of those > packages that have been removed, you can only wait for it to be added back, > or mix stable/unstable (or install from upstream, but that's even worse). _Or_ you can see that an apt-get dist-upgrade / apt full-upgrade wants to remove a package that you need, and pin the package you need _before_ proceeding with the upgrade so as to prevent the removal of that package, and thereby also likely causing some other packages to be held back; and then somehow ensure that you will revisit the pin later. Quite a few people run Debian testing. Some even as a daily driver. That's fine. But if you do, you need to keep in mind that it _is_ "testing". You can't expect the same level of stability as with the stable distribution. And you definitely need to pay close attention to what every upgrade wants to do to your system _especially_ in terms of removals. Mixing packages from testing and stable is no more guaranteed to work than mixing packages from, say, bullseye and bookworm; in that it might work, or it might not, and that the outcome will very much depend on the specifics of the packages involved and what they use each other for. And when it doesn't work, the failure modes aren't necessarily going to be at all obvious. Just because apt pinning can be wrangled into creating a system with a mix of bookworm, trixie and sid package versions doesn't mean that using it to do that is a good idea, or that the resulting system will perform as expected. Apt pinning is a power tool that requires understanding of the consequences of the results. -- Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
On Sun, 26 May 2024 13:16:28 +0200
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Hello Kamil,
>About 2 years ago I got new laptop.
Sweeping generalisation coming;
Laptops can be troublesome for Linux when they're fairly recently
released. Largely because the makers play fast and loose with accepted
standards and cut corners to keep costs down.
Often, Linux has to 'catch up' as it were. Even then the process relies
on somebody having access to the affected machinery for long enough to
come up with solutions for said machine's shortcomings.
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Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
Mindaugas writes: [..] > Yes, people do. It's their systems. But then there is no need to cry > and complain that something is not working or is not working properly. > Personally, I've never had any problems with sound on Debian. Maybe You were lucky. About 2 years ago I got new laptop. And I have had problems, as kernel module did not recognise some auxiliary device. As a resule there were no sound in speakers. Yes this was resolved later. KJ -- http://stopstopnop.pl/stop_stopnop.pl_o_nas.html Lee's Law: Mother said there would be days like this, but she never said that there'd be so many!
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
Il 25/05/24 17:25, Frank ha scritto: I've been running a 'pure' testing since 2008. No sid or stable in sight. You have a point, I should have specified better what I meant. I tried running pure Debian testing too, but, in my case, given the way I use my system, I soon realized that testing wasn't enough for me and I found that APT pinning was there just for strange peolple like me who need some bit more than what a pure Debian testing has to offer. So, in my case a pure Debian testing is not enough and it seems I'm not alone, since someone out there invented APT pinning and someone even uses it. I wrote: > testing is not a complete distro, in that you *need* to add stable > and/or sid in order to actually use it Let's rephrase that: Sometimes it happens some packages get automatically removed from Debian testing (for example because of rc-bugs), so if you ever need one of those packages that have been removed, you can only wait for it to be added back, or mix stable/unstable (or install from upstream, but that's even worse). In other words, assuming "completeness" means having all the packaged software that others Debian flavors have, sometimes it happens Debian testing isn't complete. It happened to me in the past, so I mixed in stable and sid.
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
Il 25/05/24 17:54, Mindaugas ha scritto: Yes, people do. It's their systems. Just like my system is mine. But then there is no need to cry and complain that something is not working or is not working properly. Cry and complain? I've only asked for help, giving all the info I have about my system. If you happen to know the solution, then you are welcome to share it. All the rest is blah blah blah. Personally, I've never had any problems with sound on Debian. Maybe because I don't do the kind of scenarios you do (apt pinning, mixing packages from stable, testing and unstable etc.) Correct: Maybe. But, who knows?
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
On Sat, 2024-05-25 at 14:51 +0200, Lucio Crusca wrote: > > > Il 25/05/24 13:51, Mindaugas ha scritto: > > Hello. > > Don't make a FrankenDebian. Oh, I'm sorry. Your system has already > > become like this. > > > > P.S. > > The reason things can break is because the software packaged for > > one > > Debian release is built to be compatible with the rest of the > > software > > for that release. > > This is the utmost futile answer I ever received in 22 years of my > "FrankenDebian", but thanks for your time nevertheless. > > Besides it is also a misleading answer: testing is not a complete > distro, in that you *need* to add stable and/or sid in order to > actually > use it, and guess what? A lot of people out there actually do that. > Oh, > even APT pinning [1] exists just for that. > > Anyway, if you ever happen to find something like a useful answer, > you're welcolme to post it here. Thanks in advance. > > [1]: https://wiki.debian.org/AptConfiguration > > Yes, people do. It's their systems. But then there is no need to cry and complain that something is not working or is not working properly. Personally, I've never had any problems with sound on Debian. Maybe because I don't do the kind of scenarios you do (apt pinning, mixing packages from stable, testing and unstable etc.)
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
Op 25-05-2024 om 14:51 schreef Lucio Crusca: Besides it is also a misleading answer: testing is not a complete distro, in that you *need* to add stable and/or sid in order to actually use it Nonsense. I've been running a 'pure' testing since 2008. No sid or stable in sight. Please don't spread misinformation.
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
Il 25/05/24 13:51, Mindaugas ha scritto: Hello. Don't make a FrankenDebian. Oh, I'm sorry. Your system has already become like this. P.S. The reason things can break is because the software packaged for one Debian release is built to be compatible with the rest of the software for that release. This is the utmost futile answer I ever received in 22 years of my "FrankenDebian", but thanks for your time nevertheless. Besides it is also a misleading answer: testing is not a complete distro, in that you *need* to add stable and/or sid in order to actually use it, and guess what? A lot of people out there actually do that. Oh, even APT pinning [1] exists just for that. Anyway, if you ever happen to find something like a useful answer, you're welcolme to post it here. Thanks in advance. [1]: https://wiki.debian.org/AptConfiguration
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
On Fri, 2024-05-24 at 14:26 +0200, Lucio Crusca wrote: > My notebook has Trixie for most packages, then some from Bookworm and > a > few form Sid. > > Pipewire used to output sound just fine until yesterday, when I > upgraded > the whole system via aptitude and rebooted. > > Until yesterday I also had rc-buggy in my sources-list, but then I > removed it (before the upgrade) because of some unresolvable > dependencies. > > Today Alsa lists my integrated analog audio device: > > $ aplay -l > List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices > card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC298 Analog [ALC298 Analog] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > but then alsamixer doesn't find it: > > $ alsamixer > the menu only shows "Card: PipeWire \n Chip: PipeWire ..." and a > message: "This sound device does not have any controls" > > Pipewire and `wpctl status` seem to recognize the device (but not the > analog sink): > > $ pw-cli list-objects > [...] > id 44, type PipeWire:Interface:Device/3 > object.serial = "44" > factory.id = "14" > client.id = "41" > device.api = "alsa" > device.description = "Audio interno" > device.name = "alsa_card.pci-_00_1f.3" > device.nick = "HDA Intel PCH" > media.class = "Audio/Device" > > $ wpctl status > PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [1.0.6, lucio@t470, cookie:1325159986] > └─ Clients: > [...] > Audio > ├─ Devices: > │ 44. Audio interno [alsa] > │ > ├─ Sinks: > │ 46. Audio interno Digital Stereo (HDMI) [vol: 1.00] > │ > ├─ Sources: > [...] > > The XFCE audio mixer only shows the HDMI output (not connected), but > when I run it, I can hear a little noise in my analog headphones, > which > is the same noise I used to hear when I ran any application that > output > sound and it initialized the output sound device until yesterday. > > Also `pactl list sinks' only shows the HDMI output. > > Google Chrome seems to happily play YouTube videos, except no sound > ever > comes out (maybe it is routing audio to the disconnected HDMI > output?). > > pipewire-pulse 1.0.6-1 is installed, > /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/with-pulseaudio exists and wireplumber > is > running. > > Aplay fails to play a simple wav: > > $ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav > Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav' : Signed 16 bit > Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono > aplay: set_params:1456: Unable to install hw params: > [...] > > And I've run out of ideas. > Hello. Don't make a FrankenDebian. Oh, I'm sorry. Your system has already become like this. P.S. The reason things can break is because the software packaged for one Debian release is built to be compatible with the rest of the software for that release.
Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh
allan wrote on 18/04/2024 13:37: Bug report submitted. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1069236 Hi, may I ask how you disabled IPv6 on these machines? Regards, Jörg.
Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh
Hi Allan, On 18/04/24 at 12:38, allan wrote: Have four Sid machines here and ssh -X has worked fine on all of them for years. For the last several days I haven't been able to run graphical applications over ssh from any of these machines. Error says "cannot open display" and if I ssh into the machine $DISPLAY is indeed blank but from a local console $DISPLAY correctly reads :0 export DISPLAY=ip.of.ssh.guest:0 doesn't work either although it does set the variable on the host machine. xhost + also gives the cannot open display error. ssh -vv -Y u...@ip.add.re.ss just gives "X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0" Since this happened on all four machines at once I'm pretty sure it's nothing I did - but I haven't been able to resolve it yet. Anybody else seeing this? Anybody got an idea how to resolve or which package to give a bug report? cheers - Have you tried to set the following entries in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file: X11Forwarding yes X11DisplayOffset 10 X11UseLocalhost no don't forget to restart the server. Cheers, -- Franco Martelli
Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh
Bug report submitted. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1069236 On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 6:18 AM allan wrote: > > I just fixed it. in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I changed > > #AddressFamily any > > to > > AddressFamily inet > > Reading the host's journal got me pointed in the right direction. > Thank you for the suggestion :) > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 6:10 AM allan wrote: > > > > > In the context of these SSH sessions, are those clients or servers? > > > > Both. I've run all four machines as both host and guest when testing. > > > > > Do the logs on the host ip.add.re.ss provide any further details? > > > > journalctl -t sshd gives this - > > > > Apr 18 05:29:03 server sshd[2052]: error: Failed to allocate > > internet-domain X11 display socket. > > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:54 AM Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> > > wrote: > > > > > > On 18 Apr 2024 05:38 -0500, from wizard10...@gmail.com (allan): > > > > Have four Sid machines here > > > > > > In the context of these SSH sessions, are those clients or servers? > > > > > > > > > > ssh -vv -Y u...@ip.add.re.ss just gives "X11 forwarding request failed > > > > on channel 0" > > > > > > Do the logs on the host ip.add.re.ss provide any further details? > > > > > > -- > > > Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se > > > “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?” > > > > > > > > > -- > > we see things not as they are, but as we are. > > -- anais nin > > > > -- > we see things not as they are, but as we are. > -- anais nin -- we see things not as they are, but as we are. -- anais nin
Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh
I just fixed it. in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I changed #AddressFamily any to AddressFamily inet Reading the host's journal got me pointed in the right direction. Thank you for the suggestion :) On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 6:10 AM allan wrote: > > > In the context of these SSH sessions, are those clients or servers? > > Both. I've run all four machines as both host and guest when testing. > > > Do the logs on the host ip.add.re.ss provide any further details? > > journalctl -t sshd gives this - > > Apr 18 05:29:03 server sshd[2052]: error: Failed to allocate > internet-domain X11 display socket. > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:54 AM Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> > wrote: > > > > On 18 Apr 2024 05:38 -0500, from wizard10...@gmail.com (allan): > > > Have four Sid machines here > > > > In the context of these SSH sessions, are those clients or servers? > > > > > > > ssh -vv -Y u...@ip.add.re.ss just gives "X11 forwarding request failed > > > on channel 0" > > > > Do the logs on the host ip.add.re.ss provide any further details? > > > > -- > > Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se > > “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?” > > > > > -- > we see things not as they are, but as we are. > -- anais nin -- we see things not as they are, but as we are. -- anais nin
Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh
> In the context of these SSH sessions, are those clients or servers? Both. I've run all four machines as both host and guest when testing. > Do the logs on the host ip.add.re.ss provide any further details? journalctl -t sshd gives this - Apr 18 05:29:03 server sshd[2052]: error: Failed to allocate internet-domain X11 display socket. On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 5:54 AM Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > > On 18 Apr 2024 05:38 -0500, from wizard10...@gmail.com (allan): > > Have four Sid machines here > > In the context of these SSH sessions, are those clients or servers? > > > > ssh -vv -Y u...@ip.add.re.ss just gives "X11 forwarding request failed > > on channel 0" > > Do the logs on the host ip.add.re.ss provide any further details? > > -- > Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se > “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?” > -- we see things not as they are, but as we are. -- anais nin
Re: No $DISPLAY variable set over ssh
On 18 Apr 2024 05:38 -0500, from wizard10...@gmail.com (allan): > Have four Sid machines here In the context of these SSH sessions, are those clients or servers? > ssh -vv -Y u...@ip.add.re.ss just gives "X11 forwarding request failed > on channel 0" Do the logs on the host ip.add.re.ss provide any further details? -- Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”
Re: No Release file for Security Update
Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2024-01-18 at 12:06 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Tixy writes: > > > Where could your machine be getting this IP address from? It's > > > the same IP address shown in your output when you used the > > > incorrect address 'ftp.security.debian.org' and for me that > > > doesn't resolve to any IP address. > > > > > From here both security.debian.org and > > > ftp.security.debian.org resolve > > to 57.128.81.193. Happens both with Unbound and with 8.8.8.8. > > > > toncho/~ 22 dig ftp.security-debian.org > > That's a different address (you're using a '-') and works for me too. > > I was using the address that George _said_ he used in his email, > obviously he was wrong and just mis-typing emails rather than copy and > pasting in what he was actually using :-( Another example of why posting the prompt and command as well as the output is useful :)
Re: no sound
> On 19 Jan 2024, at 05:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > … I used Lucky Backup but I cannot figure out how to restore. I read the > book and it is confusing … Do you mean this? https://luckybackup.sourceforge.net/manual.html#restore If not, is it helpful? Best wishes, Gareth
Re: no sound
On 1/18/24 21:56, Maureen L Thomas wrote: I had a1T drive that has my backup on it. I used Lucky Backup but I cannot figure out how to restore. I read the book and it is confusing. I can't just more them over from that HD to the one that is in the computer because they are locked. I will be dragging all future backups as you have said. So much easier. Thank You What is the make and model of the 1 TB disk? It is installed in your computer? Is it mounted? Can you list its contents? David
Re: no sound
I had a1T drive that has my backup on it. I used Lucky Backup but I cannot figure out how to restore. I read the book and it is confusing. I can't just more them over from that HD to the one that is in the computer because they are locked. I will be dragging all future backups as you have said. So much easier. Thank You On 1/19/24 12:34 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 1/18/24 20:08, Maureen L Thomas wrote: I answered all your questions. I believe I am using wayland. I appreciate your help.; YW. :-) On 1/18/24 1:12 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 1/17/24 17:40, Maureen L Thomas wrote: Well I did a back-up, that didn't work, but I didn't know it at the time, The back up failed? :-( Do you need help with data recovery? > Too late for that. Ouch. Please get started doing some kind of backups. Simple approaches include: 1. Connect a USB drive (flash, HDD, SSD, whatever). Hopefully, the desktop environment will display a pop-up dialog with to mount the USB drive file system and display it in a file manager. Then open another file manager. Drag and drop files from your hard disk drive or solid state drive to the USB drive to back up. Drag them the other way to restore. It helps to create folders with year, month, day-of-month names (e.g. 20240118) on the USB drive, so that you can back up the same file repeatedly and retain older copies. Then put the USB drive off-site, get another USB drive, and continue with backups. Every month or so, swap the on-site and off-site USB drives. 2. If your computer has a CD/DVD/BD burner drive, buy a spindle of blank discs. Look for a CD/DVD/BD burner application via your Start menu (or whatever it is called). Burn important files to an optical disc periodically, and as needed. Keep the burned discs off-site. Another useful strategy is to put your operating system on one HDD/SSD and put your data on a second HDD/SSD. When you need to re-install your operating system, you can shut down, disconnect the data drive SATA cable, boot installer media, and install the operating system. When the new operating system is working, you shutdown, connect the data disk SATA cable, boot, and configure the system to mount the data drive. Did you install a graphical desktop? If so, which one? I installed Gnome for the desk top Okay. What backport package(s) did you require? deb https://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports contrib main non-free non-free-firmware Okay. I now have a system that works but I cannot find any utility to fix the top bar the way I want it. Any hints? If you are using Xfce, right click on a blank area of any panel and choose Panel -> Panel Preferences. This will give you a multi-tab app that you can use to customize all the panels. I use Xfce and am unfamiliar with Gnome. Perhaps another reader who uses the Gnome desktop can provide instructions for customizing the desktop interface. David
Re: no sound
On 1/18/24 20:08, Maureen L Thomas wrote: I answered all your questions. I believe I am using wayland. I appreciate your help.; YW. :-) On 1/18/24 1:12 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 1/17/24 17:40, Maureen L Thomas wrote: Well I did a back-up, that didn't work, but I didn't know it at the time, The back up failed? :-( Do you need help with data recovery? > Too late for that. Ouch. Please get started doing some kind of backups. Simple approaches include: 1. Connect a USB drive (flash, HDD, SSD, whatever). Hopefully, the desktop environment will display a pop-up dialog with to mount the USB drive file system and display it in a file manager. Then open another file manager. Drag and drop files from your hard disk drive or solid state drive to the USB drive to back up. Drag them the other way to restore. It helps to create folders with year, month, day-of-month names (e.g. 20240118) on the USB drive, so that you can back up the same file repeatedly and retain older copies. Then put the USB drive off-site, get another USB drive, and continue with backups. Every month or so, swap the on-site and off-site USB drives. 2. If your computer has a CD/DVD/BD burner drive, buy a spindle of blank discs. Look for a CD/DVD/BD burner application via your Start menu (or whatever it is called). Burn important files to an optical disc periodically, and as needed. Keep the burned discs off-site. Another useful strategy is to put your operating system on one HDD/SSD and put your data on a second HDD/SSD. When you need to re-install your operating system, you can shut down, disconnect the data drive SATA cable, boot installer media, and install the operating system. When the new operating system is working, you shutdown, connect the data disk SATA cable, boot, and configure the system to mount the data drive. Did you install a graphical desktop? If so, which one? I installed Gnome for the desk top Okay. What backport package(s) did you require? deb https://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports contrib main non-free non-free-firmware Okay. I now have a system that works but I cannot find any utility to fix the top bar the way I want it. Any hints? If you are using Xfce, right click on a blank area of any panel and choose Panel -> Panel Preferences. This will give you a multi-tab app that you can use to customize all the panels. I use Xfce and am unfamiliar with Gnome. Perhaps another reader who uses the Gnome desktop can provide instructions for customizing the desktop interface. David
Re: no sound
I answered all your questions. I believe I am using wayland. I appreciate your help.; On 1/18/24 1:12 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 1/17/24 17:40, Maureen L Thomas wrote: Well I did a back-up, that didn't work, but I didn't know it at the time, The back up failed? :-( Do you need help with data recovery? Too late for that. and did a reinstallation from scratch. Did you install using debian-12.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso? Did you install a graphical desktop? If so, which one? I installed Gnome for the desk top I now have my sound back Good. :-) after I added back ports to my repositories. Do you mean backports? https://backports.debian.org/ What backport package(s) did you require? deb https://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports contrib main non-free non-free-firmware I now have a system that works but I cannot find any utility to fix the top bar the way I want it. Any hints? If you are using Xfce, right click on a blank area of any panel and choose Panel -> Panel Preferences. This will give you a multi-tab app that you can use to customize all the panels. David
SOLVED Re: No Release file for Security Update SOLVED
The following sources.list which I copied from wiki.debian.org/SourcesList works perfectly for me deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free Thanks to the many responders who coached me through my rambling, incoherent path to this solution. My apologies to the many responders who I misled with dumb entries. I hope this ends the search for all. Tom George On 1/18/24 13:06, John Hasler wrote: Tixy writes: Where could your machine be getting this IP address from? It's the same IP address shown in your output when you used the incorrect address 'ftp.security.debian.org' and for me that doesn't resolve to any IP address. >From here both security.debian.org and ftp.security.debian.org resolve to 57.128.81.193. Happens both with Unbound and with 8.8.8.8. toncho/~ 22 dig ftp.security-debian.org ; <<>> DiG 9.19.19-1-Debian <<>> ftp.security-debian.org ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2686 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ftp.security-debian.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: ftp.security-debian.org. 3296 IN CNAME security-debian.org. security-debian.org.3089IN A 57.128.81.193 ;; Query time: 0 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.2#53(192.168.1.2) (UDP) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 18 12:03:08 CST 2024 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 101 toncho/~ 22 dig @8.8.8.8 ftp.security-debian.org ; <<>> DiG 9.19.19-1-Debian <<>> @8.8.8.8 ftp.security-debian.org ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 42376 ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ftp.security-debian.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: ftp.security-debian.org. 3600 IN CNAME security-debian.org. security-debian.org.3600IN A 57.128.81.193 ;; Query time: 308 msec ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) (UDP) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 18 12:03:42 CST 2024 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 82 toncho/~ 22 dig @8.8.8.8 security-debian.org ; <<>> DiG 9.19.19-1-Debian <<>> @8.8.8.8 security-debian.org ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 13855 ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;security-debian.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: security-debian.org.3600IN A 57.128.81.193 ;; Query time: 284 msec ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) (UDP) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 18 12:05:00 CST 2024 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 64
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:59:48AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Host gives me the same result. However, apt says: > > 0% [Connecting to security-debian.org (57.128.81.193)] security-debian.org and security.debian.org are different names.
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Thu, 2024-01-18 at 18:51 +, Tixy wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-01-18 at 18:16 +, Tixy wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2024-01-18 at 12:06 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > > > > > Tixy writes: > > > > > > > > Where could your machine be getting this IP address from? It's > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > same IP address shown in your output when you used the incorrect > > > > > > > > address 'ftp.security.debian.org' and for me that doesn't > > > > > > > > resolve to > > > > > > > > any IP address. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From here both security.debian.org and ftp.security.debian.org > > > > > > > > resolve > > > > > > to 57.128.81.193. Happens both with Unbound and with 8.8.8.8. > > > > > > > > > > > > toncho/~ 22 dig ftp.security-debian.org > > > > > > > > That's a different address (you're using a '-') and works for me too. > > > > > > > > I was using the address that George _said_ he used in his email, > > > > obviously he was wrong and just mis-typing emails rather than copy and > > > > pasting in what he was actually using :-( > > > > Of course you're also guilty John ;-) saying 'ftp.security.debian.org' > > resolved, but at least you pasted a command showing what you really > > used :-) And now you can all point out that it was me that was misquoting the address and using a dot where in fact everyone else was using a hyphen in 'debian-security'. I'll now slink away red faced and try and find a hole big enough to crawl into... -- Tixy
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Thu, 2024-01-18 at 18:16 +, Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2024-01-18 at 12:06 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Tixy writes: > > > Where could your machine be getting this IP address from? It's the > > > same IP address shown in your output when you used the incorrect > > > address 'ftp.security.debian.org' and for me that doesn't resolve to > > > any IP address. > > > > > From here both security.debian.org and ftp.security.debian.org resolve > > to 57.128.81.193. Happens both with Unbound and with 8.8.8.8. > > > > toncho/~ 22 dig ftp.security-debian.org > > That's a different address (you're using a '-') and works for me too. > > I was using the address that George _said_ he used in his email, > obviously he was wrong and just mis-typing emails rather than copy and > pasting in what he was actually using :-( Of course you're also guilty John ;-) saying 'ftp.security.debian.org' resolved, but at least you pasted a command showing what you really used :-) -- Tixy
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Thu, 2024-01-18 at 12:06 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Tixy writes: > > Where could your machine be getting this IP address from? It's the > > same IP address shown in your output when you used the incorrect > > address 'ftp.security.debian.org' and for me that doesn't resolve to > > any IP address. > > > From here both security.debian.org and ftp.security.debian.org resolve > to 57.128.81.193. Happens both with Unbound and with 8.8.8.8. > > toncho/~ 22 dig ftp.security-debian.org That's a different address (you're using a '-') and works for me too. I was using the address that George _said_ he used in his email, obviously he was wrong and just mis-typing emails rather than copy and pasting in what he was actually using :-( -- Tixy
Re: No Release file for Security Update
Tixy writes: > Where could your machine be getting this IP address from? It's the > same IP address shown in your output when you used the incorrect > address 'ftp.security.debian.org' and for me that doesn't resolve to > any IP address. >From here both security.debian.org and ftp.security.debian.org resolve to 57.128.81.193. Happens both with Unbound and with 8.8.8.8. toncho/~ 22 dig ftp.security-debian.org ; <<>> DiG 9.19.19-1-Debian <<>> ftp.security-debian.org ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2686 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ftp.security-debian.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: ftp.security-debian.org. 3296 IN CNAME security-debian.org. security-debian.org.3089IN A 57.128.81.193 ;; Query time: 0 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.2#53(192.168.1.2) (UDP) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 18 12:03:08 CST 2024 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 101 toncho/~ 22 dig @8.8.8.8 ftp.security-debian.org ; <<>> DiG 9.19.19-1-Debian <<>> @8.8.8.8 ftp.security-debian.org ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 42376 ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ftp.security-debian.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: ftp.security-debian.org. 3600 IN CNAME security-debian.org. security-debian.org.3600IN A 57.128.81.193 ;; Query time: 308 msec ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) (UDP) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 18 12:03:42 CST 2024 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 82 toncho/~ 22 dig @8.8.8.8 security-debian.org ; <<>> DiG 9.19.19-1-Debian <<>> @8.8.8.8 security-debian.org ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 13855 ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;security-debian.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: security-debian.org.3600IN A 57.128.81.193 ;; Query time: 284 msec ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) (UDP) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 18 12:05:00 CST 2024 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 64 -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Thu, 2024-01-18 at 10:48 -0500, Thomas George wrote: > On 1/17/24 20:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:58PM -0500, Thomas George wrote: > > > deb http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main > > > non-free non-free-firmware > > Stop guessing, and *read* what you were told to use. > > > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/01/msg00778.html > > > > Your source is incorrect. The security repo is at > > "http://security.debian.org/debian-security";;. > > > > There are other lines that also work, but you can't just guess randomly > > until you stumble across one. Read a trusted source, and copy what > > they tell you to use. Don't put "ftp." in front of things that don't > > need it. > I typed the above line exactly. apt-get update searches for > security.debian.org:80 [57.128.81.193] and times out, no connection Where could your machine be getting this IP address from? It's the same IP address shown in your output when you used the incorrect address 'ftp.security.debian.org' and for me that doesn't resolve to any IP address. -- Tixy
Re: No Release file for Security Update
Host gives me the same result. However, apt says: 0% [Connecting to security-debian.org (57.128.81.193)] and times out. Using "nameserver 8.8.8.8" changes nothing. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: No Release file for Security Update
Thomas George wrote: > I typed the above line exactly. apt-get update searches for > security.debian.org:80 [57.128.81.193] and times out, no connection Gene writes: > And that is not the address I get from here It's the one I get from here, and it times out. My DNS is working. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: No Release file for Security Update SOLVED
New sources.list file works perfectly deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free Tom George Thomas George wrote: My system is Bookworm installed from the first DVD which was downloaded with the checksums and successfully checked. I commented out the dvd and added to sources.list lines for bookworm, bookworm-updates and bookworm-security. Ran apt-get update The result was bookworm InRelease, bookworm-updates InRelease, bookworm-secutity Relesse 404 Not Found [IP: 146.75.30.132 80] Reading package lists Done bookwoom-security Release does not have a Release file. How do I fix this?
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On 1/17/24 22:54, Todd Zullinger wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:58PM -0500, Thomas George wrote: deb http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware Stop guessing, and *read* what you were told to use. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/01/msg00778.html Your source is incorrect. The security repo is at "http://security.debian.org/debian-security";;. There are other lines that also work, but you can't just guess randomly until you stumble across one. Read a trusted source, and copy what they tell you to use. Don't put "ftp." in front of things that don't need it. https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList is also a good resource with numerous examples. Yes thank you. I have copied all the lines from the wiki example and they all work perfectly. This is my new sources.list file deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:59:34AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > And that is not the address I get from here > ping -c1 security.debian.org > PING security.debian.org (151.101.2.132) 56(84) bytes of data. > 64 bytes from 151.101.2.132 (151.101.2.132): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=15.8 ms > > Your dns isn't working? It's more complicated than that. unicorn:~$ host security.debian.org security.debian.org has address 151.101.2.132 security.debian.org has address 151.101.130.132 security.debian.org has address 151.101.194.132 security.debian.org has address 151.101.66.132 security.debian.org has IPv6 address 2a04:4e42:400::644 security.debian.org has IPv6 address 2a04:4e42:600::644 security.debian.org has IPv6 address 2a04:4e42:200::644 security.debian.org has IPv6 address 2a04:4e42::644 security.debian.org mail is handled by 10 mitropoulos.debian.org. security.debian.org mail is handled by 10 mailly.debian.org. security.debian.org mail is handled by 10 muffat.debian.org. It's a round robin with 4 IPv4 and 4 IPv6 addresses. (You can ignore the mail server lines.)
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On 1/18/24 10:49, Thomas George wrote: On 1/17/24 20:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:58PM -0500, Thomas George wrote: deb http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware Stop guessing, and *read* what you were told to use. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/01/msg00778.html Your source is incorrect. The security repo is at "http://security.debian.org/debian-security";;. There are other lines that also work, but you can't just guess randomly until you stumble across one. Read a trusted source, and copy what they tell you to use. Don't put "ftp." in front of things that don't need it. I typed the above line exactly. apt-get update searches for security.debian.org:80 [57.128.81.193] and times out, no connection . And that is not the address I get from here ping -c1 security.debian.org PING security.debian.org (151.101.2.132) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 151.101.2.132 (151.101.2.132): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=15.8 ms Your dns isn't working? Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On 1/18/24 10:49, Thomas George wrote: On 1/17/24 20:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:58PM -0500, Thomas George wrote: deb http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware Stop guessing, and *read* what you were told to use. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/01/msg00778.html Your source is incorrect. The security repo is at "http://security.debian.org/debian-security";;. There are other lines that also work, but you can't just guess randomly until you stumble across one. Read a trusted source, and copy what they tell you to use. Don't put "ftp." in front of things that don't need it. I typed the above line exactly. apt-get update searches for security.debian.org:80 [57.128.81.193] and times out, no connection But, but it Just Works here. . Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On 1/17/24 20:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:58PM -0500, Thomas George wrote: deb http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware Stop guessing, and *read* what you were told to use. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/01/msg00778.html Your source is incorrect. The security repo is at "http://security.debian.org/debian-security";;. There are other lines that also work, but you can't just guess randomly until you stumble across one. Read a trusted source, and copy what they tell you to use. Don't put "ftp." in front of things that don't need it. I typed the above line exactly. apt-get update searches for security.debian.org:80 [57.128.81.193] and times out, no connection
update of bookworm-security failed Formerly Re: No Release file for Security Update
On 1/17/24 20:40, Thomas George wrote: On 1/17/24 19:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:31:52AM -0500, Thomas George wrote: # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20231007-10:29]/ bookworm main non-free-firmware This one, before you commented it out, only contained non-free-firmware and *not* non-free. They are two different sections. deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free non-free-firmware Here, someone has added non-free. If that's not what you want, you can remove that. You should *keep* non-free-firmware, though. Also, if you don't want to use plain http, you can change this to https. deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware This one is incorrect, but someone else already addressed that one. Be sure you actually follow their instructions correctly. The hostnames security.debian.org and ftp.security.debian.org are not the same. I have tried many permutations of the last line in this sources.list # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20231007-10:29]/ bookworm main non-free-firmware deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free non-free-firmware deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free non-free-firmware # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main non-free non-free-firmware deb http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware None have worked perfectly, apt-get update gives this root@Phoenix:/etc/apt# apt-get update Hit:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease Hit:2 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease Hit:3 https://linux.brostrend.com stable InRelease Ign:4 http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease Ign:4 http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease Ign:4 http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease Err:4 http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease Could not connect to ftp.security-debian.org:80 (57.128.81.193), connection timed out Reading package lists... Done W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/dists/bookworm-security/InRelease Could not connect to ftp.security-debian.org:80 (57.128.81.193), connection timed out W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. root@Phoenix:/etc/apt# vi sources.list
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:31:52 -0500 Thomas George wrote: > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD > Binary-1 with firmware 20231007-10:29]/ bookworm main > non-free-firmware > > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free > non-free-firmware > > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free > non-free-firmware > > # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main non-free > non-free-firmware > > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-security main non-free > non-free-firmware > sources.list (END) The first thing I'll suggest is that you replace http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ with http://deb.debian.org/debian More to the point, the security URL I have is http://security.debian.org/debian-security > > > root@Phoenix:/etc/apt# apt-get update > Hit:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease > Hit:2 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease > Ign:3 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-security InRelease > Hit:4 https://linux.brostrend.com stable InRelease > Err:5 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-security Release > 404 Not Found [IP: 151.101. I'm guessing that that brostrend line came from something in /etc/apt/sources.d. Sometimes renaming those is a useful debugging trick. For more information, see man 5 sources.list. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: no sound
On 1/17/24 17:40, Maureen L Thomas wrote: Well I did a back-up, that didn't work, but I didn't know it at the time, The back up failed? :-( Do you need help with data recovery? and did a reinstallation from scratch. Did you install using debian-12.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso? Did you install a graphical desktop? If so, which one? I now have my sound back Good. :-) after I added back ports to my repositories. Do you mean backports? https://backports.debian.org/ What backport package(s) did you require? I now have a system that works but I cannot find any utility to fix the top bar the way I want it. Any hints? If you are using Xfce, right click on a blank area of any panel and choose Panel -> Panel Preferences. This will give you a multi-tab app that you can use to customize all the panels. David
Re: No Release file for Security Update
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:58PM -0500, Thomas George wrote: >> deb http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main >> non-free non-free-firmware > > Stop guessing, and *read* what you were told to use. > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/01/msg00778.html > > Your source is incorrect. The security repo is at > "http://security.debian.org/debian-security";;. > > There are other lines that also work, but you can't just guess randomly > until you stumble across one. Read a trusted source, and copy what > they tell you to use. Don't put "ftp." in front of things that don't > need it. https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList is also a good resource with numerous examples. -- Todd
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:58PM -0500, Thomas George wrote: > deb http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main > non-free non-free-firmware Stop guessing, and *read* what you were told to use. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/01/msg00778.html Your source is incorrect. The security repo is at "http://security.debian.org/debian-security";;. There are other lines that also work, but you can't just guess randomly until you stumble across one. Read a trusted source, and copy what they tell you to use. Don't put "ftp." in front of things that don't need it.
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On 1/17/24 19:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:31:52AM -0500, Thomas George wrote: # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20231007-10:29]/ bookworm main non-free-firmware This one, before you commented it out, only contained non-free-firmware and *not* non-free. They are two different sections. deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free non-free-firmware Here, someone has added non-free. If that's not what you want, you can remove that. You should *keep* non-free-firmware, though. Also, if you don't want to use plain http, you can change this to https. deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware This one is incorrect, but someone else already addressed that one. Be sure you actually follow their instructions correctly. The hostnames security.debian.org and ftp.security.debian.org are not the same. I have tried many permutations of the last line in this sources.list # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20231007-10:29]/ bookworm main non-free-firmware deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free non-free-firmware deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free non-free-firmware # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main non-free non-free-firmware deb http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware None have worked perfectly, apt-get update gives this root@Phoenix:/etc/apt# apt-get update Hit:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease Hit:2 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease Hit:3 https://linux.brostrend.com stable InRelease Ign:4 http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease Ign:4 http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease Ign:4 http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease Err:4 http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease Could not connect to ftp.security-debian.org:80 (57.128.81.193), connection timed out Reading package lists... Done W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.security-debian.org/debian-security/dists/bookworm-security/InRelease Could not connect to ftp.security-debian.org:80 (57.128.81.193), connection timed out W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. root@Phoenix:/etc/apt# vi sources.list
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:31:52AM -0500, Thomas George wrote: > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD > Binary-1 with firmware 20231007-10:29]/ bookworm main non-free-firmware This one, before you commented it out, only contained non-free-firmware and *not* non-free. They are two different sections. > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free non-free-firmware Here, someone has added non-free. If that's not what you want, you can remove that. You should *keep* non-free-firmware, though. Also, if you don't want to use plain http, you can change this to https. > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-security main non-free > non-free-firmware This one is incorrect, but someone else already addressed that one. Be sure you actually follow their instructions correctly. The hostnames security.debian.org and ftp.security.debian.org are not the same.
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On 1/17/24 16:13, Tom Furie wrote: Thomas George writes: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware Err:5 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-security Release 404 Not Found [IP: 151.101. I entered you suggested line as http://security.debian.org/debian-security and apt-get update responded: E: Malformed line 9 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (type) E: The list of sources could not be read. Please keep replies on-list in future, for the benefit of anyone else who might encounter a similar problem. You still need the rest of the line, I only indicated the correct URL. The full line should look like: (it might get wrapped but should all be a single line) http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware Cheers, Tom Still not right bur InRelease: root@Phoenix:/etc/apt# apt-get update Ign:1 http://ftp.security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-secutity InRelease Hit:2 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease Hit:3 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease Hit:4 https://linux.brostrend.com stable InRelease Ign:1 http://ftp.security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-secutity InRelease Ign:1 http://ftp.security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-secutity InRelease Err:1 http://ftp.security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-secutity InRelease Could not resolve 'ftp.security.debian.org' Reading package lists... Done W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/bookworm-secutity/InRelease Could not resolve 'ftp.security.debian.org' W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. I tried leavin security.debian.org out of the line but that didn't work either
Re: No Release file for Security Update
Thomas George writes: > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-security main non-free > non-free-firmware > Err:5 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-security Release > 404 Not Found [IP: 151.101. Your source is incorrect. The security repo is at "http://security.debian.org/debian-security";.
Re: No Release file for Security Update
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20231007-10:29]/ bookworm main non-free-firmware deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free non-free-firmware deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free non-free-firmware # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main non-free non-free-firmware deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-security main non-free non-free-firmware sources.list (END) root@Phoenix:/etc/apt# apt-get update Hit:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease Hit:2 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease Ign:3 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-security InRelease Hit:4 https://linux.brostrend.com stable InRelease Err:5 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bookworm-security Release 404 Not Found [IP: 151.101. On 1/16/24 11:30, Thomas George wrote: My system is Bookworm installed from the first DVD which was downloaded with the checksums and successfully checked. I commented out the dvd and added to sources.list lines for bookworm, bookworm-updates and bookworm-security. Ran apt-get update The result was bookworm InRelease, bookworm-updates InRelease, bookworm-secutity Relesse 404 Not Found [IP: 146.75.30.132 80] Reading package lists Done bookwoom-security Release does not have a Release file. How do I fix this?
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 05:48:27PM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 16.01.2024 um 11:30:09 Uhr schrieb Thomas George: > > > The result was bookworm InRelease, bookworm-updates InRelease, > > bookworm-secutity Relesse 404 Not Found [IP: 146.75.30.132 80] > ^ > > There seems to be a typo! Two of them, including "Relesse". This makes it impossible to tell whether the typos are in the sources.list file, or in the email, or both. This is why we ask that people *paste* information directly from their terminal windows into the email they're writing. It prevents errors being added during transcription.
Re: No Release file for Security Update
Am 16.01.2024 um 11:30:09 Uhr schrieb Thomas George: > The result was bookworm InRelease, bookworm-updates InRelease, > bookworm-secutity Relesse 404 Not Found [IP: 146.75.30.132 80] ^ There seems to be a typo!
Re: No Release file for Security Update
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 11:30:09AM -0500, Thomas George wrote: > I commented out the dvd and added to sources.list lines for bookworm, > bookworm-updates and bookworm-security. What lines did you add? > Ran apt-get update > > The result was bookworm InRelease, bookworm-updates InRelease, > bookworm-secutity Relesse 404 Not Found [IP: 146.75.30.132 80] > > Reading package lists Done > > bookwoom-security Release does not have a Release file. > > How do I fix this? Either you added something incorrect, or your local mirror was in a transitional state. Wait a few minutes and try again. If it still doesn't work, show us what you have in your sources.list.
Re: No Sound With Bookworm
Il 27/12/2023 02:04, Thomas George ha scritto: > Pulseaudio Volume control shows a strong signal audio output but nothing > reaches the speakers. > > This must be a well known problem but I can't find the answer. I found the same issue. For me, the issue was that timidity-daemon was taking exclusive access to audio ports. And uninstalling timidity-daemon didn't help. Try this: -look at control panel ->audio, see the available outputs / profiles -find pipewire processes and kill them -after some second, open again control panel -> audio and see if more profiles appear -if they appear, try to select them. For me, it was "analog stereo output" profile and "line out" device. Perhaps it's not the same text, my install is not in english language".
Re: No alsa, no alsactl in bookworm distribution?
Correction: Output was to headphone. There is a signal for plugged in speaker. Still no sound from speaker. On 12/27/23 09:56, Thomas George wrote: No sound. alsamixer shows card HDA Intel PCH but no driver list. pulseaudio volume control output shows no signal. What am I missing?
Re: No alsa, no alsactl in bookworm distribution?
On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 09:56:54AM -0500, Thomas George wrote: > No sound. > > alsamixer shows card HDA Intel PCH but no driver list. > > pulseaudio volume control output shows no signal. > > What am I missing? > Check to see whether you actually have pulseaudio installed or whether you now have pipewire. Do you have firmware enabled for Intel - maybe the sof - see release notes about non-free firmware. That's a start :) All the very best, as ever, Andy [amaca...@debian.org]
Re: No Sound With Bookworm
On 12/26/23 20:04, Thomas George wrote: Pulseaudio Volume control shows a strong signal audio output but nothing reaches the speakers. This must be a well known problem but I can't find the answer. Please help Tom George I had the same issue with bookworm also. I am using LXQT and pav was not setup to output sound to the proper device. On my system it had two output devices one to send audio through the sound card and another to use HDMI. My speaker are connected to the HDMI so I needed to use that. Also make sure the proper audo device is not set as backup. -- Hindi madali ang maging ako
Re: No Sound With Bookworm
Thomas George wrote: > Pulseaudio Volume control shows a strong signal audio output but nothing > reaches the speakers. > > This must be a well known problem but I can't find the answer. Check the volume control's tabs for Output Device and Configuration; frequently PA decides there is no output or it should go to a recently-plugged-in device with no speakers or headphones attached, or a muted physical volume control.
Re: no smartd in logwatch
Am 20.11.2023 um 21:56:02 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com: > export LOGWATCH_LOGFILE_LIST='/var/log/daemon.log ' > > it seems my bookworm doesn't have a daemon log Then tune syslog to create that file or let logwatch use another file that contains the logs.
Re: no smartd in logwatch
On 21/11/2023 04:56, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: it seems my bookworm doesn't have a daemon log https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#rsyslog-creates-fewer-logfiles Chapter 5. Issues to be aware of for bookworm 5.1.9. rsyslog creates fewer log files
Re: no smartd in logwatch
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 20.11.2023 um 17:54:27 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com: > >> 2023-11-19T07:24:45.772306-06:00 honey smartd[858]: Device: /dev/sdb >> [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from >> 111 to 112 > > Looks good. Can you check logwatch for any error messages? > i ran logwatch --service smartd --range Yesterday --detail high -debug 5 i see export LOGWATCH_LOGFILE_LIST='/var/log/daemon.log ' it seems my bookworm doesn't have a daemon log
Re: no smartd in logwatch
Am 20.11.2023 um 17:54:27 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com: > 2023-11-19T07:24:45.772306-06:00 honey smartd[858]: Device: /dev/sdb > [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from > 111 to 112 Looks good. Can you check logwatch for any error messages?
Re: no smartd in logwatch
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 20.11.2023 um 15:14:51 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com: > >> if i look in /var/log/syslog i see many entries > > What is the name of the entries? > > For me it is smartd. > 2023-11-19T07:24:45.772306-06:00 honey smartd[858]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 111 to 112
Re: no smartd in logwatch
Am 20.11.2023 um 15:14:51 Uhr schrieb fxkl4...@protonmail.com: > if i look in /var/log/syslog i see many entries What is the name of the entries? For me it is smartd.
Re: No 6.5.10-4 realtime kernel?
Le mardi 14 novembre 2023, 16:15:53 CET Scott Denlinger a écrit : > Thanks for the LWN reference. I think I missed that article. I plan to > install the newest kernel in Trixie, then run the rtcqs script ( > https://codeberg.org/rtcqs/rtcqs) to see how it looks for audio processing. > Based on that, I may still try to install a fully preemptible kernel from > source. > > Scott Denlinger On my PC, rtcqs shows me that the kernel is not Tickless (CONFIG_NO_HZ). Tickless Kernel === [ WARNING ] Tickless timer support is not not set. Try enabling tickless timer support (CONFIG_NO_HZ_IDLE, or CONFIG_NO_HZ in older kernels)
Re: No 6.5.10-4 realtime kernel?
Thanks for the LWN reference. I think I missed that article. I plan to install the newest kernel in Trixie, then run the rtcqs script ( https://codeberg.org/rtcqs/rtcqs) to see how it looks for audio processing. Based on that, I may still try to install a fully preemptible kernel from source. Scott Denlinger On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:00 AM Tixy wrote: > On Mon, 2023-11-13 at 20:45 +0100, Gilles Mocellin wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 10:04 AM Scott Denlinger > > > > > > wrote: > > > > Does anyone know why there are no stock realtime kernels in > trixie/sid? I > > > > currently have 'linux-image-6.5.0-1-rt-amd64-unsigned' installed, > but I > > > > don't see any newer RT kernels available. > > > > > > > > Scott Denlinger > > > > Hello, I also was looking for it, but I've seen that the standard kernel > seems > > to have some preemptive patch (dynamic ?) : > > > > So I think the kernel packagers think it's sufficient ? > > Quoting a recent article from LWN [1] > >PREEMPT_DYNAMIC, was added to the 5.12 kernel by Michal Hocko in >2021. It allows the preemption choice to be deferred until boot >time, where any of the modes except PREEMPT_RT can be selected by >the preempt= command-line parameter. PREEMPT_DYNAMIC allows >distributors to ship a single kernel while letting users pick the >preemption mode that works best for their workload. > > So if you specificity need a real-time kernel this won't give it to > you. > > [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/944686/ > > -- > Tixy > >
Re: No 6.5.10-4 realtime kernel?
On Mon, 2023-11-13 at 20:45 +0100, Gilles Mocellin wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 10:04 AM Scott Denlinger > > > > wrote: > > > Does anyone know why there are no stock realtime kernels in trixie/sid? I > > > currently have 'linux-image-6.5.0-1-rt-amd64-unsigned' installed, but I > > > don't see any newer RT kernels available. > > > > > > Scott Denlinger > > Hello, I also was looking for it, but I've seen that the standard kernel > seems > to have some preemptive patch (dynamic ?) : > > So I think the kernel packagers think it's sufficient ? Quoting a recent article from LWN [1] PREEMPT_DYNAMIC, was added to the 5.12 kernel by Michal Hocko in 2021. It allows the preemption choice to be deferred until boot time, where any of the modes except PREEMPT_RT can be selected by the preempt= command-line parameter. PREEMPT_DYNAMIC allows distributors to ship a single kernel while letting users pick the preemption mode that works best for their workload. So if you specificity need a real-time kernel this won't give it to you. [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/944686/ -- Tixy
Re: No 6.5.10-4 realtime kernel?
Thank you, Gilles. I'll install it and see if it works for me. I'm curious what the rtcqs script will tell me about it after I install it. Scott Denlinger On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 9:31 PM Gilles Mocellin < gilles.mocel...@nuagelibre.org> wrote: > Le dimanche 12 novembre 2023, 16:08:06 CET Scott Denlinger a écrit : > > Sorry, in Debian world I'm looking for 'linux-image-6.5.0-4-rt-[. . .]' > but > > it would be 6.5.10. > > > > Scott Denlinger > > > > On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 10:04 AM Scott Denlinger > > > > wrote: > > > Does anyone know why there are no stock realtime kernels in > trixie/sid? I > > > currently have 'linux-image-6.5.0-1-rt-amd64-unsigned' installed, but I > > > don't see any newer RT kernels available. > > > > > > Scott Denlinger > > Hello, I also was looking for it, but I've seen that the standard kernel > seems > to have some preemptive patch (dynamic ?) : > > So I think the kernel packagers think it's sufficient ? > > ❯ uname -a > Linux guitare 6.5.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.5.10-1 > (2023-11-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > > >
Re: No 6.5.10-4 realtime kernel?
Le dimanche 12 novembre 2023, 16:08:06 CET Scott Denlinger a écrit : > Sorry, in Debian world I'm looking for 'linux-image-6.5.0-4-rt-[. . .]' but > it would be 6.5.10. > > Scott Denlinger > > On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 10:04â¯AM Scott Denlinger > > wrote: > > Does anyone know why there are no stock realtime kernels in trixie/sid? I > > currently have 'linux-image-6.5.0-1-rt-amd64-unsigned' installed, but I > > don't see any newer RT kernels available. > > > > Scott Denlinger Hello, I also was looking for it, but I've seen that the standard kernel seems to have some preemptive patch (dynamic ?) : So I think the kernel packagers think it's sufficient ? ❯ uname -a Linux guitare 6.5.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.5.10-1 (2023-11-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Re: No 6.5.10-4 realtime kernel?
Sorry, in Debian world I'm looking for 'linux-image-6.5.0-4-rt-[. . .]' but it would be 6.5.10. Scott Denlinger On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 10:04 AM Scott Denlinger wrote: > Does anyone know why there are no stock realtime kernels in trixie/sid? I > currently have 'linux-image-6.5.0-1-rt-amd64-unsigned' installed, but I > don't see any newer RT kernels available. > > Scott Denlinger >
Re: No 6.5.8 RT kernel image?
I don't know this image. I run Trixie and Sid and have 6.5.0-3-amd64 -- CK
Re: No polkit authentication agent found
Am 12.10.2023 schrieb Sharon Kimble : > Brilliant! Yes, I can Maybe you need to put that in your autostart configuration,
Re: No polkit authentication agent found
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Marco writes: > Am 12.10.2023 schrieb Sharon Kimble : > >> Exactly what programs do I need to install please, so that I can burn >> the image onto the drive please? > > Can you start > /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 > ? Brilliant! Yes, I can, and I'm currently installing the iso file onto the cruzer blade drive. Thank you very much :) Sharon. - -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk Debian 12, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 30.0.50, org 9.6.9 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQJRBAEBCgA7FiEELSc/6QwVBIYugJDbNoGAGQr4g1sFAmUn//AdHGJvdWRpY2Nh c0Bza2ltYmxlMDkucGx1cy5jb20ACgkQNoGAGQr4g1s2WQ//WkqxiNt/CXdIRPYf VyuyYlgxIrjbneqVExy5qt9FIqmzTm76EzPz6ZLDyYZQK4CR7YJDluG5Ss4fTiHh M5krVf29kaCkAUkeVRyDZHRNTF7OV94yE2ZKrkHdSMj/Q/n9MYi3/Y8gkx4KhytO 2UpknlB1Q8l6F7eJ7By1ujFcezdzGk19w6L5MMVuW2qwrYiIdeL9qjgg8mBIIhPR gzGCMBXNuux1br4MmjVQCGdQh78YkZlkXBGt0XqAiPMdMc3nlKBIGz+hK6GqalJ8 ksiR7vkDEv7INDmKr9ft1kNq6C9mfIiKVFLxB/8bfmJTJuNVTNxJCC10B6oAL8mV ByTm/yeTamAnBbMP6k7js5ehGfprO70SJzVuJGT72n4s52OmC4A9u98luW0x3zrL e+sflu4NC14dhntWjmqUmdB4P3Erz7ClkFn6zEZeZwj1ySp6XCw99v+yqyYhgBec dAecs6krYSilmBwWkC+KZXd5PG1lfmjADyjhqHJLL3diHmkNnkAjQ4TXFIHXMAvl qMB4OD7RyawaLpu5oX2zLBQAQsrNqtNR8SKZ0E3wUQ0iO6PtRa98a6CnKg0trT9T FezxpuiAqS5Hwnmk+tyCYmp0EJ92kZM1Ct2AF/VCp7NdMJOMsSlRS8DD9dP0W4f5 WiEmHks0vJgY/xZM/DAUSgNZJgI= =Lp6v -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: No polkit authentication agent found
Am 12.10.2023 schrieb Sharon Kimble : > Exactly what programs do I need to install please, so that I can burn > the image onto the drive please? Can you start /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 ?
Re: No wifi on debian 12 fresh install (HP laptop 440 14" G10)
Thank you for the quick reply. I will follow yous and Michale's advice. Itay On Wed, 4 Oct 2023, at 15:41, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 04.10.2023 17:08, Itay wrote: >> Hi >> >> I recently purchased an HP ProBook 440 14" G10 laptop. >> This configuration is certified by Ubuntu[1]. >> The specs, as advertised by HP, can be found here[2]. >> >> The installation (debian 12 'bookworm') went as expected (using DVD and wired >> connection). However, after reboot, I discovered that wifi was not working. >> Bluetooth, on the other hand, is working. >> >> After three days of search on the internet[3]-[9] I am really at a loss. >> I have been a long-time debian *user* -- but am not an expert. >> I am aware of the possibility to download drivers and compile them from >> source[10]-[12], but hesitate to do that without an expert guide. >> >> System and device information, as gathered by wireless-info script[13], will >> follow the references. >> >> Please advise >> Thanks in advance. >> Itay >> >> >> ... >> # kernel >> >> Linux 6.1.0-10-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.38-1 (2023-07-14) >> x86_64 unknown unknown GNU/Linux >> ... >> # lspci # >> >> 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device >> [10ec:c852] (rev 01) >> Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:88e5] >> ... >> > https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=155976 > > You need [1] to compile a kernel module for your wifi adapter. There is no > other way. > Just follow build instructions [2] closely and you should be fine. > > > [1] https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=155976 > [2] > https://github.com/lwfinger/rtw89#dkms-packaging-for-debian-and-its-derivatives > > -- > With kindest regards, Alexander. > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org > ⠈⠳⣄
Re: No wifi on debian 12 fresh install (HP laptop 440 14" G10)
Thank you for the quick reply. On Wed, 4 Oct 2023, at 15:32, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 4 Oct 2023 15:08 +0300, from deb...@itayf.fastmail.fm (Itay): >> The installation (debian 12 'bookworm') went as expected (using DVD and wired >> connection). However, after reboot, I discovered that wifi was not working. >> Bluetooth, on the other hand, is working. > > Looks like your wireless NIC is a Realtek 10ec:c852 which on 6.1 needs > an out-of-tree kernel module? > > See https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=155976 > > Which in https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=782189#p782189 in > turn points to https://github.com/lwfinger/rtw89/tree/main > > Or you can try installing the kernel from bookworm-backports which is > currently on the 6.4 series, since 6.4 apparently includes that driver. > https://packages.debian.org/bookworm-backports/linux-image-amd64 Am I right to assume that the second method implies a bigger change from the standard installation (and therefore might be less preferable)? > -- > Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se > “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”
Re: No wifi on debian 12 fresh install (HP laptop 440 14" G10)
On 04.10.2023 17:08, Itay wrote: Hi I recently purchased an HP ProBook 440 14" G10 laptop. This configuration is certified by Ubuntu[1]. The specs, as advertised by HP, can be found here[2]. The installation (debian 12 'bookworm') went as expected (using DVD and wired connection). However, after reboot, I discovered that wifi was not working. Bluetooth, on the other hand, is working. After three days of search on the internet[3]-[9] I am really at a loss. I have been a long-time debian *user* -- but am not an expert. I am aware of the possibility to download drivers and compile them from source[10]-[12], but hesitate to do that without an expert guide. System and device information, as gathered by wireless-info script[13], will follow the references. Please advise Thanks in advance. Itay ... # kernel Linux 6.1.0-10-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.38-1 (2023-07-14) x86_64 unknown unknown GNU/Linux ... # lspci # 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:c852] (rev 01) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:88e5] ... https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=155976 You need [1] to compile a kernel module for your wifi adapter. There is no other way. Just follow build instructions [2] closely and you should be fine. [1] https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=155976 [2] https://github.com/lwfinger/rtw89#dkms-packaging-for-debian-and-its-derivatives -- With kindest regards, Alexander. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org ⠈⠳⣄
Re: No wifi on debian 12 fresh install (HP laptop 440 14" G10)
On 4 Oct 2023 15:08 +0300, from deb...@itayf.fastmail.fm (Itay): > The installation (debian 12 'bookworm') went as expected (using DVD and wired > connection). However, after reboot, I discovered that wifi was not working. > Bluetooth, on the other hand, is working. Looks like your wireless NIC is a Realtek 10ec:c852 which on 6.1 needs an out-of-tree kernel module? See https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=155976 Which in https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=782189#p782189 in turn points to https://github.com/lwfinger/rtw89/tree/main Or you can try installing the kernel from bookworm-backports which is currently on the 6.4 series, since 6.4 apparently includes that driver. https://packages.debian.org/bookworm-backports/linux-image-amd64 -- Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”
Re: No korganizer, kmix, akregator icon in the task bar (but yes for kwrite...)
Hi,
Answering myself...
On 22 Aug 2023 at 16:50:15, Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
> Bookworm here, but the same issues (at least for korganizer) happened on
> bullseye.
[...]
> I use LXDE with some KDE applications. Some applications such as
> korganizer, kmix, akregator: in the task bar I have a generic LXDE icon
> (or the top-left icon if I have the application visible)
>
> Other applications such as kcalc, kwrite or kate have the icons as
> expected.
The apps where the icon is displayed have calls such as:
app.setWindowIcon(QIcon::fromTheme(QStringLiteral("accessories-calculator"),
app.windowIcon()));
or:
QApplication::setWindowIcon(QIcon(QStringLiteral(":/kwrite/kwrite.svg")));
The ones without the application icons... do not have this calls to set
it up.
I'll investigate a bit more and report to upstream.
Cheers,
--
Carles Pina i Estany
https://carles.pina.cat || Wiktionary translations: https://kamus.pina.cat
Re: no sound on Debian 12
On 2023-07-25, Bruce Byfield wrote: > Last week, I installed Debian 12. Since then I've had no sound. I've > consulted > various pages on the Debian wiki, and found no solution, either with > pulseaudio or pipewire. Built-in speakers, and external features (including > bluetooth ones, which are definitely connected) don't work. Any suggestions? pulseaudio is provided by pipewire-pulse if you use pipewire. And you should have wireplumber for your user. Check packages and systemd services.
Re: no sound on Debian 12
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 14:54:26 -0700, Bruce Byfield wrote: >Last week, I installed Debian 12. Since then I've had no sound. I've consulted >various pages on the Debian wiki, and found no solution, either with >pulseaudio or pipewire. Built-in speakers, and external features (including >bluetooth ones, which are definitely connected) don't work. Any suggestions? Are you sure you have no sound at all, and not just have really really low volume? I have a similar problem where I need to raise the volume in alsamixer between each boot (or switch between different users) - I have posted about it here on debian-user, but no replies yet. -- Andreas Rönnquist mailingli...@gusnan.se andr...@ronnquist.net
Re: no web
Hello, I'm not an expert but I think you can use package `broadcom-sta-dkms`. You will find it in the non-free repo. Please refer to (Debian Packages)[https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/broadcom-sta-dkms] also. If you don't want use non-free packages I see not a real chance to get it unfortunately. But as I already said I#m not a deep expert. --- mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards **Christian Lorenz** mailto:cl.debian.mail...@t-online.de --- Am 01.06.23 um 06:20 schrieb Aleix Piulachs: i’m using bullseye 7 in a hp compaq 6830s i386 intel pentium dual t3400 and i can’t find the network drivers broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
Re: no web
On 5/31/23 21:20, Aleix Piulachs wrote: i’m using bullseye 7 in a hp compaq 6830s i386 intel pentium dual t3400 and i can’t find the network drivers broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) STFW "debian BCM4312", the first hit is: https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx David
Re: no pwm
Replying to me directly is snowballing... On 5/29/23 20:36, Aleix Piulachs wrote: mar, 30 may 2023 a las 5:30, David Christensen On 5/29/23 19:56, Aleix Piulachs wrote: El El lun, 29 may 2023 a las 9:59, David Christensen On 5/28/23 19:27, Aleix Piulachs wrote: i use an hp with bullseye7-386 and it does not support pwm. what can i use instead of pwm because it gets very hot Computer hp compaq 6830s intel pentium dual cpu t3400 Looking at the "HP Compaq 6830s Notebook PC Maintenance and Service Guide" and the figure "Computer major components" (page 16), it looks like that laptop has one fan and one heat sink/ heat pipe: https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-compaq-6830s-notebook-pc/3688712/manuals The fan runs from windows7 because stays in ram but from bullseye no and the temperature is over 55 or so degrees Again, please "Reply to list" instead of replying to me directly. What do you mean by "because stays in ram"? Looking at the "Computer Setup User Guide" -> "System Configuration menu" -> "Device Configurations" (page 9), I see one option for the fan: Enable/disable fan always on while connected to an AC outlet (enabled by default). Please connect the computer power adapter, verify that the above Setup setting is enabled, and test for fan operation with both Windows 7 and with Debian 11. Again, please answer the following questions: * Under what operating conditions does the processor get hot? * Have you cleaned the fan, heat sink, and chassis internals with a vacuum cleaner? On 5/29/23 20:47, Aleix Piulachs wrote: And I can’t find b43/ucode15.fw and b43-open/ucode15.fw free firmware files either Searching package directories for "b32": https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages I see 3 results: * b43-fwcutter * firmware-b43-installer * firmware-b43legacy-installer All three are "contrib" packages, which means your need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add "contrib". Here is my sources.list FYI: 2023-05-29 20:59:17 dpchrist@taz ~/src/perl/Dpchrist-Lib5/lib/Dpchrist/Lib5 $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free Then run: # apt-get update I am unsure which package is correct. I would try installing firmware-b43-installer: # apt-get install firmware-b43-installer Then reboot and test. If that does not work, I would try installing firmware-b43legacy-installer: # apt-get remove firmware-b43-installer # apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer Then reboot and test. David
Re: no pwm
On 5/29/23 19:56, Aleix Piulachs wrote: El El lun, 29 may 2023 a las 9:59, David Christensen On 5/28/23 19:27, Aleix Piulachs wrote: i use an hp with bullseye7-386 and it does not support pwm. what can i use instead of pwm because it gets very hot Computer model? Processor? Does it have the factory heat sink and fan? Is the motherboard CPU fan pin header 3- or 4-wire? Is the fan 3- or 4- wire? Does the computer have factory chassis fan(s)? Are the headers 3- or 4- pin? Are the fans 3- or 4- pin? Boot the computer into Setup and reply with all available fan control settings for all fans. Very hot under what operating conditions? Have you cleaned the chassis air filter(s) and the processor heat sink with a vacuum cleaner? David Computer hp compaq 6830s intel pentium dual cpu t3400 Please "Reply to list". Looking at the "HP Compaq 6830s Notebook PC Maintenance and Service Guide" and the figure "Computer major components" (page 16), it looks like that laptop has one fan and one heat sink/ heat pipe: https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-compaq-6830s-notebook-pc/3688712/manuals I will assume the laptop has the factory heat sink and fan with the factory connection (3- or 4-wire), and no other fans. Does the fan run at any time? Does it change speeds? Please answer the remaining questions: >> Boot the computer into Setup and reply with all available fan control >> settings for all fans. >> >> >> Very hot under what operating conditions? >> >> >> Have you cleaned the chassis air filter(s) and the processor heat sink >> with a vacuum cleaner? David
Re: no pwm
On 5/28/23 19:27, Aleix Piulachs wrote: i use an hp with bullseye7-386 and it does not support pwm. what can i use instead of pwm because it gets very hot Computer model? Processor? Does it have the factory heat sink and fan? Is the motherboard CPU fan pin header 3- or 4-wire? Is the fan 3- or 4- wire? Does the computer have factory chassis fan(s)? Are the headers 3- or 4- pin? Are the fans 3- or 4- pin? Boot the computer into Setup and reply with all available fan control settings for all fans. Very hot under what operating conditions? Have you cleaned the chassis air filter(s) and the processor heat sink with a vacuum cleaner? David
Re: No space left on device ...
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 08:12:39AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 5/17/23, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 1:06 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might > >> want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of > >> other servers. > > Nowadays, time is something that can be handled locally with a Gossip > > protocol. Let your watch or phone or television or toaster tell your > > computer what time it is. No need for a remote call to a server. > > > >> Debian runs a pool, which is configured by default in ntp-server > >> and chrony, at least. > > I have to use a Debian Live DVD to access the Internet; so, probably > these utilities should be included. > > lbrtchx > Hi, Most of this message from you is very off topic: please bear in mind that this goes to a *wide* variety of people and places. That's one of the reasons why the FAQ posted each month asks people to not post political and other opinions that may be meaningless to large parts of the world. Can we try and get this list back onto topics that are constructive (and don't last for thirty or more posts in one thread), please? Thanks for your consideration. Andy Cater [For the Debian Community Team]
Re: No space left on device ...
On 5/17/23, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 1:06 PM Dan Ritter wrote:
>> Albretch Mueller wrote:
>> Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might
>> want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of
>> other servers.
> Nowadays, time is something that can be handled locally with a Gossip
> protocol. Let your watch or phone or television or toaster tell your
> computer what time it is. No need for a remote call to a server.
>
>> Debian runs a pool, which is configured by default in ntp-server
>> and chrony, at least.
I have to use a Debian Live DVD to access the Internet; so, probably
these utilities should be included. I can't entertain functional
illusions about taking care of my business in any other way. It is
thoroughly annoying and time wasting, but you also "live and learn". I
have been running dmesg and comparing its output as I access the
Internet (all problems go away when you close all browser windows and
disconnect yourself from the Internet) one of their jokes is making
the hard drive crazily rev and then you find the message:
[70778.162999] Thunar[1669]: segfault at 48 ip 55a03faca360 sp
7ffc52dc2088 error 4 in thunar[55a03fa9f000+7f000]
When our AI-based "Miss Information" Godmother gets angry with you ;-)
They are even able to change BIOS settings while your computer is
running through your browser!
// __ List BIOS Settings using PowerShell (Posted onJune 22, 2016AuthorMrNetTek)
http://eddiejackson.net/wp/?p=10909
~
so, at some point I will have to get diffable dumps of the BIOS in
addition to running diffing the output of dmesg.
The main problems I am having are brought about by:
1) the BIOS of the laptop I use these days having wireless networking
which is started by the BIOS (at some point I will try dealing with
that by disconnecting the built-in hardware). In the ways I understand
"reality" (and "quid est verum?", right?) the BIOS should not be
taking care of networking, "have a mind of its own";
2) javascript is the main attacking framework used by "the
government" and how can you use the Internet these days with
javascript disabled? (it would be like trying to breathe underwater)
3) "the government" is using AI for their societally-wide
Zersetzung-like "social control" (as "good Christian" "freedom lovers"
call -repression-)
How do I know, am so sure about it? Well, this is a pattern that I
have been noticing for 30 years I have lived in "'the' land of 'the'
'free' ...": you post an "unAmerican" comment (here in the U.S. you
can say "eff 'the establishment' ..." and no one cares about it, in
fact, you didn't say anything even in a physical/acoustic sense, but
in a "lexical priming" kind of way, if you elaborate on your
statements even if in a jestful way, "patriots"/their "'patriotic'
'AI'" seem to go crazy about it).
This is what happened last/this time: you notice the people you get
the news from (I don't watch TV, read newspapers, nor am I on social
networks, ... in fact, I wonder from where people find the time for
such thoroughly stupid, morally debasing pastimes) have been black
holed -again-, to then after some barely sophisticated be found here:
// __ Introducing: Miss Information, Your Fairy Government Godmother
https://odysee.com/@Odysee:8/missinfo:d
~
About our new Godmother "Miss Information". Do you remember when she
decided it was about time for "Vladimir Putin" to suicide Michael
Hastings for spreading misinformation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_(journalist)
Two days after the crash, the Los Angeles Police Department declared
that there were no signs of foul play.[65] The coroner's report ruled
the death to be an accident.[66] An autopsy showed that the cause of
death was massive blunt force trauma consistent with a high-speed
crash.[66]
~
I cracked jokes around how unjust and non-sensical was it that that
not only "unAmerican", but also, as if it were not enough, "pro
Russia" "Vladimir Putin" suicided Hastings when all he did was the
same as Biden did only 20 years earlier. Do we need either "Vladimir
Putin" or our, not exactly fair and clarifying government appointed
Godmother?
~
The aim of that Zersetzung-like (as they "freedom-lovingly" call it
themselves: "relentless pursuit"), which was thoroughly "studied" with
social animals and humans as part of their „Operativer Vorgänge"
("operational procedures") by the East German stasi is not to kill
you, but thoroughly destroy your existence to the point of inducing
the belief in people of committing suicide as a way "not to let them
get you" ... Does it actually work? Well, you don't have to take it
from me; Ian Murdock, Aaron Swartz, Sandra Bland, Myron May, John
McAfee, ... will tell you.
I know, as some of you have told me, that "the U.S. Constitution
doesn't include any clauses relating to 'privacy'" ..., that "all I am
saying is being archived" ... (yes, "we the people" in the U.S. have
started to talk as if
Re: No space left on device ...
On Thu, 2023-05-18 at 10:42 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 2023 10:07:05 -0400 > Default User wrote: > > > If I am running systemd-timesyncd on a single-user, internet- > > connected > > computer, not needing to serve time signals to any other device, > > would > > there be any reason to use ntp instead? > > NTP is a protocol, like TCP or UDP. One program that uses NTP is > ntpd, > which Debian packages in the confusingly named package ntp. > > To answer your question, probably not. I'm not even sure you can run > ntpd and systemd-timesyncd on the same computer. I have ntpd on two > computers here, both available as local time servers on my network. > Everything else uses systemd-timesyncd and uses the two ntpd > machines. > Got it. That's sort of what I was thinking. Thanks!
Re: No space left on device ...
On Thu, 18 May 2023 10:07:05 -0400 Default User wrote: > If I am running systemd-timesyncd on a single-user, internet-connected > computer, not needing to serve time signals to any other device, would > there be any reason to use ntp instead? NTP is a protocol, like TCP or UDP. One program that uses NTP is ntpd, which Debian packages in the confusingly named package ntp. To answer your question, probably not. I'm not even sure you can run ntpd and systemd-timesyncd on the same computer. I have ntpd on two computers here, both available as local time servers on my network. Everything else uses systemd-timesyncd and uses the two ntpd machines. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: No space left on device ...
On Thu, 2023-05-18 at 10:20 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Default User wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-05-17 at 13:48 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 May 2023 12:48:28 -0400 > > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > > Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might > > > > want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of > > > > other servers. > > > > > > Concur. > > > > > > > > > > > Debian runs a pool, which is configured by default in ntp- > > > > server > > > > and chrony, at least. > > > > > > Also systemd-timesyncd, which is probably the easiest of these > > > three > > > to > > > set up. > > > > > > > > > > > > If I am running systemd-timesyncd on a single-user, internet- > > connected > > computer, not needing to serve time signals to any other device, > > would > > there be any reason to use ntp instead? > > systemd-timesyncd, ntp-server and chrony are all supposed to > speak the NTP protocol. Nothing, to a first approximation, uses > any other protocol to set time reliably for the system as a > whole. > > -dsr- Okay, thanks!
Re: No space left on device ...
Default User wrote: > On Wed, 2023-05-17 at 13:48 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Wed, 17 May 2023 12:48:28 -0400 > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might > > > want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of > > > other servers. > > > > Concur. > > > > > > > > Debian runs a pool, which is configured by default in ntp-server > > > and chrony, at least. > > > > Also systemd-timesyncd, which is probably the easiest of these three > > to > > set up. > > > > > > > If I am running systemd-timesyncd on a single-user, internet-connected > computer, not needing to serve time signals to any other device, would > there be any reason to use ntp instead? systemd-timesyncd, ntp-server and chrony are all supposed to speak the NTP protocol. Nothing, to a first approximation, uses any other protocol to set time reliably for the system as a whole. -dsr-
Re: No space left on device ...
On Wed, 2023-05-17 at 13:48 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2023 12:48:28 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might > > want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of > > other servers. > > Concur. > > > > > Debian runs a pool, which is configured by default in ntp-server > > and chrony, at least. > > Also systemd-timesyncd, which is probably the easiest of these three > to > set up. > > If I am running systemd-timesyncd on a single-user, internet-connected computer, not needing to serve time signals to any other device, would there be any reason to use ntp instead? [INB4: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"] :)
