Re: change xterm-debian
on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 05:12:13PM -0600, ktb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was wondering if there was anyway to permanently change the environment variable TERM from xterm-debian to just xterm? When I access pine at work to read mail it flips out. The server is running redhat and it's not changing. It seems I've seen this come up a while back but I can't find anything in the archives. Why xterm-debian anyway? What is the benefit? Thanks, kent In your .profile on the remote box: if [ $TERM = xterm-debian ]; then export TERM=xterm fi ...for a large set of values you want to test for, a case/esac statement might be more appropriate. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc. http://www.zelerate.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpASH0nfpJqr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: change xterm-debian
Hi, the stock answer to this is usually a terse RTFM /usr/doc/xterm/README.debian Never seemed justified to me interms of pain:benefit ratio, but according to this file on my Slink system, this has changed: The xterm terminal type on a Debian system is an alias for xterm-debian. This means that xterm and xterm-debian are interchangeable as values of the $TERM environment variable in the shell. Since the xterm-debian type is typically not found on non-Debian systems, xterm is used as the system default. It then goes on to describe the 3 ways xterm-debian differs from standard xterm... this is from: Version: 3.3.6-11potato15 so looks like upgrading xterm should fix this now? -Jon
change xterm-debian
I was wondering if there was anyway to permanently change the environment variable TERM from xterm-debian to just xterm? When I access pine at work to read mail it flips out. The server is running redhat and it's not changing. It seems I've seen this come up a while back but I can't find anything in the archives. Why xterm-debian anyway? What is the benefit? Thanks, kent -- In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. - Carl Sagan
Re: change xterm-debian
ktb wrote: I was wondering if there was anyway to permanently change the environment variable TERM from xterm-debian to just xterm? When I access pine at work to read mail it flips out. The server is running redhat and it's not changing. It seems I've seen this come up a while back but I can't find anything in the archives. Why xterm-debian anyway? What is the benefit? Thanks, kent i got the same issue, with redhat, tru64, solaris, aix, hpux etc.. what i do is just put a line in /etc/profile (assuming your using a BASH compadible shell on the remote end) and put: export TERM=vt100 that usually fixes it for me ..although the terminal i use may not be fully gnome compliant ..i have no complaints about the emulation. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome-terminal and xterm-debian
I searched the archives and thought I would get a million hits for xterm-debian but got 5 that provided no help. My problem is I can't figure out how to get gnome-terminal off xterm-debian. I can of course TERM=xterm from the command line but I would like to set it permenetly to xterm. I set TERM to xterm for xterm windows by using export but it doesn't stick for gnome-terminal. I need to do this because the servers here at work run redhat and pine won't read xterm-debian. Thanks, kent -- In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. - Carl Sagan
Re: xterm xterm-debian
On Thu, 18 May 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the best the best way to avoid having ot reset my terminal variable everytime I telnet to a site that does not know what xterm-debian is? Since this happens quite often it is getting a little tedious. Make a script. For example I use the following: -- #!/bin/sh PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin ALLARGS=$@ ## Only the last part of the options, the host TELNETHOST=$(echo $ALLARGS | sed -e s/^.*[[:blank:]]\+\([[:alnum:].]*\)[[:blank:]]*$/\1/) ## The machine name (no domain): SHORTHOST=$(echo $TELNETHOST | sed -e s/\..*$//) exec rxvt -bg Black -fg White -cr Red -font fixed \ -name remotexterm -T Telnet: $TELNETHOST -n $SHORTHOST \ -e sh -c export TERM=vt100; telnet $ALLARGS -- You use it like telnet. This is bind to menu entries on my system, so it opens a new window (with a red cursor to indicate telnet is fundamentally unsecure). ChriS
Re: xterm xterm-debian
Andrew == Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrew On Fri, 19 May 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tom What's the best the best way to avoid having ot reset my terminal tom variable everytime I telnet to a site that does not know what tom xterm-debian is? Since this happens quite often it is getting a tom little tedious. Andrew In the remote .bashrc, put Andrew TERM=xterm The right way: In the remote .bashrc or .profile or whatever, do export TERMINFO=$HOME/terminfo:$TERMINFO On remote system, create a subdirectory ~/terminfo/x/ Copy local /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm-debian to remote ~/terminfo/x/xterm-debian (Modification for termcap based remote systems left as exercise for the user) -- Ian Zimmerman, Oakland, California, U.S.A. In his own soul a man bears the source from which he draws all his sorrows and his joys. Sophocles.
xterm xterm-debian
What's the best the best way to avoid having ot reset my terminal variable everytime I telnet to a site that does not know what xterm-debian is? Since this happens quite often it is getting a little tedious. Thanks
Re: xterm xterm-debian
On Fri, 19 May 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the best the best way to avoid having ot reset my terminal variable everytime I telnet to a site that does not know what xterm-debian is? Since this happens quite often it is getting a little tedious. Thanks In the remote .bashrc, put TERM=xterm -- Andrew
Re: xterm xterm-debian
Once upon a time, I heard [EMAIL PROTECTED] say What's the best the best way to avoid having ot reset my terminal variable everytime I telnet to a site that does not know what xterm-debian is? Since this happens quite often it is getting a little tedious. Thanks See /usr/share/doc/xterm or X-strikeforce home page. In potato, it seems like default term name has been chaged back to xterm. Chanop -- ,-. | Chanop Silpa-Anan [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Australian National University | | Tel. +61 2 6279 8826, +61 2 6279 8837 (office hour) | | +61 2 6249 5240 (home +voice mail) | | Debian GNU/BSD GPG key on request | `-' pgpYKr0d1af0J.pgp Description: PGP signature
xterm-debian and SunOs
Hello, I have copied Debian's xterm-debian terminfo onto a SunOS computer (under $HOME/.terminfo), so I can connect from a Debian xterm without problems. However, recently I have started noticing it doesn't work properly on initial login (backspace doesn't work). Instead, I have to type in TERM=$TERM (TERM is xterm-debian before and after.) I believe this command forces zsh to reread the terminfo entry. which fixes the problem. This seems kind of silly to me. Any ideas? I have the following line in my .zshenv file (yes, I use zsh): export TERMINFO=$HOME/.terminfo Perhaps zsh doesn't realize that the terminfo entry which previously couldn't be found is now available. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TERM=xterm-debian
Whenever I use ssh (I'm not sure about telnet) to connect to the slakware boxes at work through an xterm or rxvt and try to use pine and pico etc, I get an error about unknown terminal xterm-debian (or rxvt). I can solve this by export TERM=xterm, but I'm just wondering if there is any particular reason debians xterm set TERM to this and if there isn't, how do I change it so that it doesn't anymore. -- Regards, Andrew Clark
Re: TERM=xterm-debian
Andrew J.F. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Whenever I use ssh (I'm not sure about telnet) to connect to the | slakware boxes at work through an xterm or rxvt and try to use pine and | pico etc, I get an error about unknown terminal xterm-debian (or rxvt). | I can solve this by export TERM=xterm, but I'm just wondering if there | is any particular reason debians xterm set TERM to this and if there | isn't, how do I change it so that it doesn't anymore. RTFM. Look at /usr/doc/xterm/README.Debian Gary
Re: TERM=xterm-debian
*- On 23 Dec, Andrew J.F. Clark wrote about TERM=xterm-debian Whenever I use ssh (I'm not sure about telnet) to connect to the slakware boxes at work through an xterm or rxvt and try to use pine and pico etc, I get an error about unknown terminal xterm-debian (or rxvt). I can solve this by export TERM=xterm, but I'm just wondering if there is any particular reason debians xterm set TERM to this and if there isn't, how do I change it so that it doesn't anymore. FAQ: Read /usr/{share/}doc/xterm/README.Debian Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: TERM=xterm-debian
thats just how it is ..it depends on what xterm you use, I use gnome-terminal(used to use kvt) and don't have a problem. This SGI Indy I'm on set's it's default terminal to iris-ansi. Slackware (3.2 anyways) had in the /etc/profile a detection routine for terminal type and if it failed detection it would default to something, I usually just throw a export TERM=vt100 into my /etc/profile or .profile if you dont have root. I think for 99% of things vt100 will work, for the other 1% change them on an individual basis(i've never found a terminal app that didnt work with vt100- although using vt100 on this SGI causes some screwy lines but it does work..) nate On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Andrew J.F. Clark wrote: andrew Whenever I use ssh (I'm not sure about telnet) to connect to the andrew slakware boxes at work through an xterm or rxvt and try to use pine and andrew pico etc, I get an error about unknown terminal xterm-debian (or rxvt). andrew I can solve this by export TERM=xterm, but I'm just wondering if there andrew is any particular reason debians xterm set TERM to this and if there andrew isn't, how do I change it so that it doesn't anymore. andrew andrew -- andrew Regards, andrew Andrew Clark andrew andrew andrew -- andrew Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 9:54am up 124 days, 21:45, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.24, 0.25
Re: Error opening terminal: xterm-debian.
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Brian E. Lavender wrote: When I telnet into another machine and I try to run a curses based application I get the below error. Say I run mutt $ mutt Error opening terminal: xterm-debian. Try copying /etc/terminfo/x/xterm-debian to the appropriate place on the remote machine. To determine the appropriate place, run locate xterm-sun. That is usually found on all machines... Robert Varga
Error opening terminal: xterm-debian.
When I telnet into another machine and I try to run a curses based application I get the below error. Say I run mutt $ mutt Error opening terminal: xterm-debian. I then type $ TERM=vt100 $ mutt now it runs The remote curses based application will run. Is there a better way to do this, or is this normal behavior? brian -- Brian Lavender http://www.brie.com/brian/
Re: Error opening terminal: xterm-debian.
Brian E Lavender [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian When I telnet into another machine and I try to run a curses Brian based application I get the below error. Say I run mutt Brian Error opening terminal: xterm-debian. See /usr/doc/xterm/README.Debian for more information on why xterm-debian is used and how to get the rest of the world to deal with it. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button? Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?
Re: TERM=xterm-debian and other distributions
From the X-Strikeforce (debian port) page (http://www.debian.org/~branden/) heading xterm and the keyboard. xterm and the keyboard Debian has modified the key translations that xterm uses to make its behavior more consistent with the Linux virtual console. This has been achieved by setting the following X resource in /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm. *VT100.Translations: #override KeyBackSpace: string(\177)\n\ KeyDelete: string(\033[3~)\n\ KeyHome: string(\033OH)\n\ KeyEnd: string(\033OF) The *VT100*backarrowKey was introduced into recent versions of xterm released by XFree86; other versions of xterm will not recognize this resource. See the page for more info. -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
TERM=xterm-debian and other distributions
Hi! Everytime I log into a non Debian system I have to set the TERM variable to xterm or vt100 manually, because the system doesn't know xterm-debian of course I don't think this was intended, so I guess I must be missing something. Or how do you guys deal with that? Thanks, Andy. -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://andy.spiegl.de Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for my PGP key o _ _ _ - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ ~~~ When a train station is where the train stops, what is a workstation?
Re: TERM=xterm-debian and other distributions
*- On 19 Aug, Andy Spiegl wrote about TERM=xterm-debian and other distributions Hi! Everytime I log into a non Debian system I have to set the TERM variable to xterm or vt100 manually, because the system doesn't know xterm-debian of course I don't think this was intended, so I guess I must be missing something. Or how do you guys deal with that? Thanks, Andy. See /usr/doc/xterm/README.Debian for ways to deal with this and the reasons behind it. -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: Redhat mutt with xterm-debian
On Mon, Aug 16, 1999 at 13:13:33 -0400, Andrew Leiserson wrote: but since I have the xterm-debian entry in ~/.terminfo/x/ I don't see why mutt shouldn't work. Did you set the environment variable TERMINFO to point to $HOME/.terminfo ? Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Redhat mutt with xterm-debian
I have a problem running a RedHat compiled mutt on a terminal set to xterm-debian. It fails with the message Error initializing terminal. and leaves the terminal in a broken state (staircase effect with prompt, no echo of what I type). It is possible to work around this with: export TERM=nxterm tset but since I have the xterm-debian entry in ~/.terminfo/x/ I don't see why mutt shouldn't work. Is this a bug in the xterm-debian entry or in the redhat mutt? Thanks, Andy
Re: xterm-debian?
Hi Ship's Log, Lt. Branden Robinson, Stardate 180299.0053: Users of slink and potato systems will need to see /usr/doc/xterm/README.Debian That's were I found it ... :-) ok .. why not add a link called xterm-color for compatibility? I added it on my machine: /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm-color However xterm still doesn't use it (I had it in my .Xresources). Do I have to put it in /etc/terminfo ? Why are there two dir. btw. anyway? Greetings -- Alexander N. Benner - 1st year grad. physicsstudent and creationist - | The great unification theory reduces matter to two particles T V | | That stands for the Hebrew words Tohu and Vohu - formless and void. | GEN 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Re: xterm-debian?
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 01:52:34AM -0800, George Bonser wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Thomas Gebhardt wrote: you may have a look at README.Debian in /usr/doc/xbase. Cheers, Thomas $ grep xterm-debian README.Debian $ I think it is there to torment those of us that spend most of our day logged onto systems from other vendors. Users of slink and potato systems will need to see /usr/doc/xterm/README.Debian -- G. Branden Robinson | One man's magic is another man's Debian GNU/Linux | engineering. Supernatural is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] | null word. cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | -- Robert Heinlein pgpKsjZkmiVsg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xterm-debian?
Hi, Does anyone know why the default TERM for xterm under Hamm is xterm-debian? No other remote system has this term type defined and when I ssh from an xterm to such a remote system, I always get errors. (I'm aware of solutions like if TERM == xterm-debian then TERM = xterm) you may have a look at README.Debian in /usr/doc/xbase. Cheers, Thomas
xterm-debian?
Montreal Tue Feb 16 18:22:18 1999 Does anyone know why the default TERM for xterm under Hamm is xterm-debian? No other remote system has this term type defined and when I ssh from an xterm to such a remote system, I always get errors. (I'm aware of solutions like if TERM == xterm-debian then TERM = xterm) Please CC: me. Thanks, Navin.
Why use xterm-debian?
Hi! I've been annoyed for a long time now with the fact that Debian uses xterm-debian as the TERM-variable. It can't surve any purpose for all i know, if the purpose isn't to be as incompatible with other *IX standards. Why not only use xterm-color instead? I could always set TERM=xterm myself, but that create trouble for some of the packages. And xterm-debian mucks with some programs that i compile and install myself. I don't know why they have started using this standard - but i sure think it sucks. If anyone could give me a correct answer to WHY i would be very grateful. Perhaps point me to some old discussion about it. That's about the only thing i don't like with Debian at the moment. I have been running it since Hamm was unstable and always used the unstable branches and almost never had any big trouble with it. Regards // Marwin -- | Björn Elwhagen aka Marwin Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Student at Wexio University for PGP public key. | | SwedenICQ: 356095 |
Re: Why use xterm-debian?
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 13:38:49 +0100, Björn Elwhagen wrote: I've been annoyed for a long time now with the fact that Debian uses xterm-debian as the TERM-variable. It can't surve any purpose for all i know, RTFM. In this case, http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html , or (depending on your install) /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian or /usr/doc/xterm/README.Debian . HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Why use xterm-debian?
Quoting Björn Elwhagen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I've been annoyed for a long time now with the fact that Debian uses xterm-debian as the TERM-variable. It can't surve any purpose for all i know, if the purpose isn't to be as incompatible with other *IX standards. Why not only use xterm-color instead? [snip] I don't know why they have started using this standard - but i sure think it sucks. If anyone could give me a correct answer to WHY i would be very grateful. Perhaps point me to some old discussion about it. Apart from the technical reference given by someone else, I must just point out that no amount of guided fiddling would get my xterm to display a telnet session to SunOS5 correctly. With xterm-debian, I just copied /etc/terminfo to .terminfo in my SunOS5 home directory and everything works perfectly. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
TERM=xterm-debian
When I use vi as root, it works as expected, but when I use is as myself, rjw, I get: $ vi a_msg vi: xterm-debian: unknown terminal type $ It doesn't work with export TWRM=vt100 or export TERM=xterm either. Where have I gone wrong? -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] The IQ of the group is that of the member whose IQ is lowest divided by the number of members.
xterm-debian info
Hi. Can someone point me towards information on the 'xterm' vs. 'xterm-debian' configuration and any other documentation? thanks, -- tony mollica [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm-debian info
The reasoning is at the bottom of http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html HTH, Brandon +--- ---+ | Brandon Mitchell * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/ | | Sometimes you have to release software with bugs. - MS Recruiter | On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, tony mollica wrote: Hi. Can someone point me towards information on the 'xterm' vs. 'xterm-debian' configuration and any other documentation?
Re: xterm-debian
On Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 06:45:42PM -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: On the other hand, I have export TERM=xterm and still end up with xterm-debian when i telnet ssh to digital unix. rick See http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html for workarounds/solutions/rationale etc. -- Rafael Kitover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm-debian
On Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 12:22:00PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote: What's the deal with the terminal setting xterm-debian? Why can't it just be xterm, like with every other unix system? It would may so things a little easier if it was xterm since most programs (to my knowledge) have never heard of a xterm-debian setting and a few programs ask you to change the terminal type - like telnet for example. It's not telnet who complains. It's the remote host you telnetted to. It does not have a xterm-debian in it's termcap. Just export TERM=xterm before connecting. cu Torsten (who likes xterm-debian because it is the only working xterm :)) pgprXGSSKuW2z.pgp Description: PGP signature
xterm-debian
What's the deal with the terminal setting xterm-debian? Why can't it just be xterm, like with every other unix system? It would may so things a little easier if it was xterm since most programs (to my knowledge) have never heard of a xterm-debian setting and a few programs ask you to change the terminal type - like telnet for example. -Paul
Re: xterm-debian
On Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 12:22:00 -0500, Paul Miller wrote: What's the deal with the terminal setting xterm-debian? Read /usr/doc/xterm/README.Debian in frozen's xterm package. Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
xterm-debian
Dear all, Where is that page that explaines why we use xterm-debian instead of xterm? Searching for xterm-debian on the debian site only produces the FAQumatic. I have seen this somewhere before (Branden's pages?), and need it RSN, as someone has decided to flame me Thanks, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: xterm-debian
On Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 12:10:31AM +, M.C. Vernon wrote: Dear all, Where is that page that explaines why we use xterm-debian instead of xterm? Searching for xterm-debian on the debian site only produces the FAQumatic. I have seen this somewhere before (Branden's pages?), and need it RSN, as someone has decided to flame me http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html HTH, James
Re: xterm-debian
*- James Dietrich wrote about Re: xterm-debian On Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 12:10:31AM +, M.C. Vernon wrote: Dear all, Where is that page that explaines why we use xterm-debian instead of xterm? Searching for xterm-debian on the debian site only produces the FAQumatic. I have seen this somewhere before (Branden's pages?), and need it RSN, as someone has decided to flame me http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html Also look in /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian, which has a lot of the same info. -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: xterm-debian
On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Michael Stutz wrote: On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Shao Ying Zhang wrote: But, is this the formal way or proper way to do it?? What is xterm-debian?? Any additional features?? Check out /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for the scoop. ? I've just read it, and it doesn't say anything about xterm-debian. Maybe I'm just being stupid again :( Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: xterm-debian
*-M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Check out /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for the scoop. | | ? | | I've just read it, and it doesn't say anything about xterm-debian. On my slink system: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 8 (meaning: xterm-debian is mention in eight lines in the file) It also points you to http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html Don't know about hamm, though. -- A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee to theorems (Martin Schulze) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm-debian
*-M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Check out /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for the scoop. | | ? | | I've just read it, and it doesn't say anything about xterm-debian. On my slink system: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 8 On my (mainly) hamm system: pick:~/c$ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 0 Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: xterm-debian
On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 12:00:47PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote: *-M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Check out /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for the scoop. | | ? | | I've just read it, and it doesn't say anything about xterm-debian. On my slink system: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 8 On my (mainly) hamm system: pick:~/c$ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 0 On my hamm system: $ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 8 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Kern Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Debian GNU/Linux
Re: xterm-debian
On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Jack Kern wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 12:00:47PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote: *-M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Check out /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for the scoop. | | ? | | I've just read it, and it doesn't say anything about xterm-debian. On my slink system: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 8 On my (mainly) hamm system: pick:~/c$ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 0 On my hamm system: $ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 8 :( Perhaps I should upgrade? pick:~/c$ dpkg -s xbase Package: xbase Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 5738 Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: xfree86 Version: 3.3.2.1-1 -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: xterm-debian
On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 12:00:47PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote: *-M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Check out /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for the scoop. | | ? | | I've just read it, and it doesn't say anything about xterm-debian. On my slink system: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 8 On my (mainly) hamm system: pick:~/c$ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 0 On my _COMPLETELY_ hamm system: $ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 8 So, what must be going on here? Cheers, Pann -- What's All the Buzz About Linux? http://www.rdrop.com/users/pann/
Re: xterm-debian
On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, M.C. Vernon wrote: On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Michael Stutz wrote: Check out /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for the scoop. I've just read it, and it doesn't say anything about xterm-debian. * The default keymappings for xterm are different than they are upstream, to comply with the Debian Keyboard Policy and make xterm's behavior more consistent with the Linux virtual console. There are three terminal types (manipulated by the $TERM shell variable) recognized by terminfo, though the same xterm binary is used in all cases: 1) xterm (this is the traditional X11R6.3 xterm and is consistent with standard X11R6 xterms found on most other Unix machines) 2) xterm-xfree86 (this is XFree86's terminfo description for xterm) 3) xterm-debian (this is the Debian Project's terminfo description for xterm, based on the current XFree86 description but containing our modifications) There is a long list of technical reasons for the above (admittedly complicated) setup, which...
Re: xterm-debian
On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 03:21:19PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote: On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Jack Kern wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 12:00:47PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote: *-M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Check out /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for the scoop. | | ? | | I've just read it, and it doesn't say anything about xterm-debian. [...] On my hamm system: $ grep xterm-debian /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian | wc -l 8 :( Perhaps I should upgrade? pick:~/c$ dpkg -s xbase Package: xbase Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 5738 Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: xfree86 Version: 3.3.2.1-1 Package: xbase Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 5715 Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: xfree86 Version: 3.3.2.3-1 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Kern Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Debian GNU/Linux
xterm-debian
Hi all, Another one! When I telnet to uni(sys V release 4) and run pine, I got the msg that xterm-debian unknown. I made it work by manually setting the XTERM var to VT100. But, is this the formal way or proper way to do it?? What is xterm-debian?? Any additional features?? regards, Shao Shao Zhang \\/ 5/28-30 Victoria AVE OxO PENSHURST 2035 //\ Sydney, NSW ///\\ Australia\\\ / ^ _ \ ( (o) (o) ) * * *===oOOO=(_)=OOOo=* * * *| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | * * | http://shaoz.dyn.ml.org | * *** | http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2193893| * * *===Oooo.=* * * *.oooO ( | * * * * *( ) ) / * **\ ( (_/ \_)
Re: xterm-debian
On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Shao Ying Zhang wrote: But, is this the formal way or proper way to do it?? What is xterm-debian?? Any additional features?? Check out /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for the scoop. I put this line in my .bash_profile: alias p=export TERM=xterm; pine Then type p to run pine.
Re: xterm-debian
On Sun, Aug 16, 1998 at 05:16:33PM +0300, Heikki Vatiainen wrote: I solved the same problem I had with TERM=rxvt by copying the rxvt entry from Linux to /usr/share/lib/terminfo/r directory in Solaris. Another way to do this is to use TERMINFO variable and set it to e.g. $HOME/.terminfo and put your xterm-debian entry in that directory. However, I have not tried the latter method. It does work, although Solaris will create the full set of directories 0-9, A-Z, a-z under their and seems to copy terminfo entries for any types you use from the system database to your ~/.terminfo; a bit hazardous if you're on quota (280k wasted). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
xterm-debian
Hi, I just upgraded to 2.0, I was running an old pre-2.0. Now when I ssh to a remote server I get complaints about the lack of a terminfo entry for xterm-debian. Isn't there a way to add a terminfo entry in my remote home directory? How? Or is there a better solution? Thanks, Havoc Pennington http://pobox.com/~hp
Re: xterm-debian
Hi, I solved the same problem I had with TERM=rxvt by copying the rxvt entry from Linux to /usr/share/lib/terminfo/r directory in Solaris. Another way to do this is to use TERMINFO variable and set it to e.g. $HOME/.terminfo and put your xterm-debian entry in that directory. However, I have not tried the latter method. The both methods above are second hand information. The original discussion was on debian-user last May by (at least) Will Love, Hamish Moffat and George Bonser under a subject terminal settings from linux- Solaris. What I have written above should summarize it, but you might want to check the list archives for more info. // Heikki -- Heikki Vatiainen * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tampere University of Technology * Tampere, Finland
Re: xterm-debian
Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just upgraded to 2.0, I was running an old pre-2.0. Now when I ssh to a remote server I get complaints about the lack of a terminfo entry for xterm-debian. Isn't there a way to add a terminfo entry in my remote home directory? How? Or is there a better solution? $ infocmp xterm-debian xterm-debian.ti will put the terminfo entry for `xterm-debian' into the file. You can probably `scp' that file over to the remote machine. Once you login to the remote m/c., just do a $ tic xterm-debian.ti This will cause it to compile the terminfo entry and create a `$HOME/.terminfo/x/xterm-debian' file. You may need to set the TERMINFO variable to point to `$HOME/.terminfo'. - Hari -- Raja R Harinath -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] When all else fails, read the instructions. -- Cahn's Axiom Our policy is, when in doubt, do the right thing. -- Roy L Ash
Re: xterm-debian
Hi, Read /usr/doc/X11/README.Debian on your systems. That file has explanations and solutions for your problems with xterm-debian. -Ossama
xterm-debian and pine problem
Hi, I just added the xterm-debian terminfo file in the appropriate Solaris 2.6 location on our Solaris machine, in accordance with what /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian says. When I start up an xterm on our Solaris machine remotely using SSH on our hamm system (Solaris xterm displayed on hamm system) and then run pine in that xterm I have problems with the colors. The colors look something along the lines of what dselect looks like in an xterm with a white background. However, the highlight bar that you would normally see when selecting an e-mail to read from the pine index is not at all visible. There is no change in the color of the text that is apparently below the highlight bar. I tryed reversing the video but the same problem of an invisible highlight bar occurs. If I do a set term=xterm in the very same xterm and then re-run pine the problem doesn't occur. Similarly, if I slogin into the Solaris machine and run pine I don't have the highlight problem, even though the terminal type is set to xterm-debian. The problem only seems to occur if I start up a Solaris xterm via remote from my hamm system. Any ideas as to what the problem might be? I imagine that the same thing will happen with other curses based applications that use highlight bars. Is this a bug in the xterm-debian terminfo file/entry? Incidentally, I am running Pine 4.02. Thanks, -Ossama -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
xterm-debian exported as terminal type
I'm not sure exactly when this started, but it seems to have been shortly after the freeze. When I telnet to another machine with an xterm (e.g., xterm -e telnet abc.def ), it informs the remote machine that terminal type is xterm-debian rather than xterm. Other machines do not recognize this, and resort to dumb terminal settings. I've tried setting TERM to xterm, and tried an export in my .xsession to no avail. Does anyone have a solution? rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: xterm-debian exported as terminal type
On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: I'm not sure exactly when this started, but it seems to have been shortly after the freeze. Since the latest XFree86 packages to be more precise. When I telnet to another machine with an xterm (e.g., xterm -e telnet abc.def ), it informs the remote machine that terminal type is xterm-debian rather than xterm. Other machines do not recognize this, and resort to dumb terminal settings. It also annoys me a lot, but it appears that there are higher powers at work here. IIRC it is some sort of policy even and it is related to the problems that Debian has been having with keymappings in xterms. At least the backspace key works for me now. I've tried setting TERM to xterm, and tried an export in my .xsession to no avail. Does anyone have a solution? Try xterm -e TERM=xterm telnet abc.def as a short term kludge. Another option is to globally alias telnet to TERM=xterm telnet. Cheers, Joost -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: xterm-debian?
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 04:05:57PM -0400, Ossama Othman wrote: What's the difference between a standard xterm and a xterm-debian terminfo/termcap entry? It's easy enough to do a set term=xterm but I really don't want to keep doing that. Why did Debian create their own terminfo/cap entry and why was such a change necessary? http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/22/22668.html HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xterm-debian?
Hi, What's the difference between a standard xterm and a xterm-debian terminfo/termcap entry? It is annoying to see the following when I try to remote start an xterm on a non-Debian machine (via ssh): tcsh: No entry for terminal type xterm-debian tcsh: using dumb terminal settings. It's easy enough to do a set term=xterm but I really don't want to keep doing that. Why did Debian create their own terminfo/cap entry and why was such a change necessary? Thanks, -Ossama __ Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- PGP Keys --- Public: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_PUBLIC.asc REVOKED: http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/othman/OO_REVOKED.asc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]