Re: your mail about android connecting

[René Luijckx]

Op za 21 mrt. 2020 om 11:58 schreef Geert Stappers :

> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 09:26:10PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 07:44:59PM +0100, René Luijckx wrote:
> > > Hoi,
> > >
> > > Op mijn mobiel ( Android 8.0.0 ) staan volgens de mobiel op de
> SD-kaart 7
> > > submappen in de hoofdmap "Muziek".
> > > Als ik deze aankoppel ( bedraad of middels Filezilla ) zie ik echter
> maar 4
> > > submappen.
> > >
> > > Is dit een Android- of Linux-verhaal ( Debian strecht derivaat ) ?
> >
> > Of het verhaal _hoe_ die twee gekoppeld zijn.
> >
> > Ik heb goede ervaring als het Andriod device in  MTP mode staat
> > en een USB-kabel. (Er was een tijd dat ik het nodig vond om Android
> > in "USB storage mode" te zetten, inmiddels weet ik dat dat fout was.)
> >
> >
> > De
> > > Als ik deze aankoppel ( bedraad of middels Filezilla )
> > is mij niet duidelijk. Tegenwoordig, zeg sinds 2017, is het voor
> > mij voldoende om USB-kabel in te steken. Het MTP-device wordt
> > dan automagisch "gemount" en is daarmee in het file-system zichtbaar.
> >
> >
> > In andere woorden: Voor mij werkt het "gewoon"
> > ("gewoon"   waar een hele boel high-tech achter zit)
>
>
> Had er aflopen week wel gekloot mee.
>
> Pas nadat ik `Debug` aan Andriod kant uitgezet had,
> kom ik weer "gewoon" bij de gemaakte foto's.
>
>
Het zit inderdaad in die hoek.

Dank je, anders had ik me een slag in de rondte gezocht in Debian.



>
> Groeten
> Geert Stappers
>
> MTP  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
> --
> Silence is hard to parse
>
>
Groeten,

René.

Re: your mail about android connecting

[Geert Stappers]

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 09:26:10PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 07:44:59PM +0100, René Luijckx wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > 
> > Op mijn mobiel ( Android 8.0.0 ) staan volgens de mobiel op de SD-kaart 7
> > submappen in de hoofdmap "Muziek".
> > Als ik deze aankoppel ( bedraad of middels Filezilla ) zie ik echter maar 4
> > submappen.
> > 
> > Is dit een Android- of Linux-verhaal ( Debian strecht derivaat ) ?
>  
> Of het verhaal _hoe_ die twee gekoppeld zijn.
> 
> Ik heb goede ervaring als het Andriod device in  MTP mode staat
> en een USB-kabel. (Er was een tijd dat ik het nodig vond om Android
> in "USB storage mode" te zetten, inmiddels weet ik dat dat fout was.)
> 
> 
> De
> > Als ik deze aankoppel ( bedraad of middels Filezilla )
> is mij niet duidelijk. Tegenwoordig, zeg sinds 2017, is het voor
> mij voldoende om USB-kabel in te steken. Het MTP-device wordt
> dan automagisch "gemount" en is daarmee in het file-system zichtbaar.
> 
> 
> In andere woorden: Voor mij werkt het "gewoon"
> ("gewoon"   waar een hele boel high-tech achter zit)


Had er aflopen week wel gekloot mee.

Pas nadat ik `Debug` aan Andriod kant uitgezet had,
kom ik weer "gewoon" bij de gemaakte foto's.


Groeten
Geert Stappers

MTP  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
-- 
Silence is hard to parse

Re: your mail

[Geert Stappers]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 07:44:59PM +0100, René Luijckx wrote:
> Hoi,
> 
> Op mijn mobiel ( Android 8.0.0 ) staan volgens de mobiel op de SD-kaart 7
> submappen in de hoofdmap "Muziek".
> Als ik deze aankoppel ( bedraad of middels Filezilla ) zie ik echter maar 4
> submappen.
> 
> Is dit een Android- of Linux-verhaal ( Debian strecht derivaat ) ?
 
Of het verhaal _hoe_ die twee gekoppeld zijn.

Ik heb goede ervaring als het Andriod device in  MTP mode staat
en een USB-kabel. (Er was een tijd dat ik het nodig vond om Android
in "USB storage mode" te zetten, inmiddels weet ik dat dat fout was.)


De
> Als ik deze aankoppel ( bedraad of middels Filezilla )
is mij niet duidelijk. Tegenwoordig, zeg sinds 2017, is het voor
mij voldoende om USB-kabel in te steken. Het MTP-device wordt
dan automagisch "gemount" en is daarmee in het file-system zichtbaar.


In andere woorden: Voor mij werkt het "gewoon"
("gewoon"   waar een hele boel high-tech achter zit)


Groeten
Geert Stappers

MTP  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
-- 
Silence is hard to parse

Re: your mail

[Jude DaShiell]

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, josh cha wrote:


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 01:15:12
From: josh cha 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 06:33:10 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Hello again. Too all the debain users.
I realised linksys AE6000 wifi usb SUPPORT IS DEAD LOL or maybe im not
checking the right places. Other wise is there a usb wifi that i can buy
That is compatible to debian.

By the way in order to get you that spec, I ran lsusb and did a cut and 
paste operation on its output so that spec will be correct.



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Re: your mail

[Jude DaShiell]

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, josh cha wrote:


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 01:15:12
From: josh cha 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 06:33:10 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Hello again. Too all the debain users.
I realised linksys AE6000 wifi usb SUPPORT IS DEAD LOL or maybe im not
checking the right places. Other wise is there a usb wifi that i can buy
That is compatible to debian.

I found that a Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187B Wireless 802.11g 
54Mbps Network Adapter works real well.
It also has Linux kernel support.  Your best bet is going to be to buy 
from thinkpenguin.com since all they're selling is linux-compatible 
hardware and software and it's how I got this adapter.  That being said, 
this works only on 2.4 band and coming standard will require a 5.0 adapter 
and all of those thinkpenguin.com sold at the time I bought mine needed to 
be bracket mounted internally.  Maybe choices have expanded since then I 
don't know.


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Re: stop your mail

[Andy Smith]

Hi Joe,

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 12:51:20PM -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Andy Smith  writes:
> > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 05:18:54PM +0200, Sébastien Gautrin wrote:
> >> The proof of this is that they all have nearly the exact same content (some
> >> add the list mail, some don't), all being HTML messages formatted the same
> >> way.
> >
> > It may come as a shock to you but most non-technical email users use
> > HTML email.
> 
> His point wasn't that they're all HTML, it's that they have nearly
> identical content and identically formatted HTML.

Probably because they are a one-line response to an identical set of
spams, sent by the same mail-sending library only because the
different people use the same email app on their phones? My point
was that you'd expect that sort of email even from different people.

It really doesn't take much imagination to see how multiple people
can send similar messages without requiring that there be some
co-ordinated attack on this mailing list. Less imagination, in fact.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: stop your mail

[Latincom]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:02:57 -0400, Fungi4All wrote:

> From: pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu
>>> It may come as a shock to you but most non-technical email users use
>>> HTML email.
>>
>>His point wasn"t that they"re all HTML, it"s that they have nearly
>>identical content and identically formatted HTML.
> And my point was that let's say they all came from wanadoo.fr for which
> the format is known and public, can you conclude they came from there?
> But you seem to also pretend the term "most non-technical" email users
> is not even there. So, to break it in change, this list is for
> non-technical users who attempt to take a dive and install debian and
> experiencing problems. It is not, by definition, a club of
> technical-users to be arrogant against all new-comers. Like a group of
> ol'boyz drinking beer in the river shooting snakes harassing all
> by-passers.
> I think this is the real issue and not a half-assed attempt to figure
> out spam and turning the conversation into a netiquette issue.
> To lighten up the spirits here, this is the joke of the day:
> Systemd allowing a service owned by 0day gaining root access.
> Blame the debian-user but defend debian and systemd at all costs.
> Am I on the good'ol'boyz'club blacklist or not yet?From:
> pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu It may come as a shock to
> you but most non-technical email users use HTML
> email.His point wasn"t that
> they"re all HTML, it"s that they have nearlyidentical
> content and identically formatted HTML.And
> my point was that let's say they all came from wanadoo.fr for
> whichthe format is known and public, can you conclude
> they came from there?But you seem to also pretend the
> term "most non-technical" email usersis not even there.
> So, to break it in change, this list is for
> non-technicalusers who attempt to take a dive and install
> debian and experiencingproblems. It is not, by
> definition, a club of technical-users to be
> arrogantagainst all new-comers. Like a group of
> ol'boyz drinking beer in theriver shooting snakes
> harassing all by-passers.I think this is
> the real issue and not a half-assed attempt to figure
> outspam and turning the conversation into a
> netiquette issue. To lighten up the
> spirits here, this is the joke of the day:Systemd
> allowing a service owned by 0day gaining root
> access.Blame the debian-user but defend debian and
> systemd at all costs.Am I on the
> good'ol'boyz'club blacklist or not yet?



This is exactly what i read! Please send your massages in plain text!

From: pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu It may come as a
shock to you but most non-technical email users use
HTML email.His point wasn"t that
they"re all HTML, it"s that they have nearlyidentical
content and identically formatted HTML.And
my point was that let's say they all came from wanadoo.fr for
whichthe format is known and public, can you conclude they
came from there?But you seem to also pretend the term "most
non-technical" email usersis not even there. So, to
break it in change, this list is for non-technicalusers who
attempt to take a dive and install debian and
experiencingproblems. It is not, by definition, a
club of technical-users to be arrogantagainst all
new-comers. Like a group of ol'boyz drinking beer in
theriver shooting snakes harassing all
by-passers.I think this is the real issue
and not a half-assed attempt to figure outspam and
turning the conversation into a netiquette issue.
To lighten up the spirits here, this
is the joke of the day:Systemd allowing a service owned by
0day gaining root access.Blame the debian-user but defend
debian and systemd at all costs.Am I on the
good'ol'boyz'club blacklist or not yet?

Re: stop your mail

[Fungi4All]

Attached is a copy of the source on a page of the link in one of the last
spammers. It has a yes/no response for sharing pictures with the same
output of java variable. One of the tweeter accounts is @XhmikosR
which is Greek for ChemistR.
But, this site may be just a library for hacker code that is incorporated
elsewhere. Tweet accounts maybe just as fake or unrelated..
One of the sources of the code is of h++ps://bootstrapcdn . com that
through startpage proxy it appears to be as follows:
BootstrapCDN
Font Awesome
Bootswatch
Bootlint
Bootstrap 4 Alpha
Legacy
Showcase
Integrations
Resources
GitHub project
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Bootstrap
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Bootlint
Glyphicons
BootstrapCDN
The recommended CDN for Bootstrap, Font Awesome and Bootswatch.
Follow @jdorfman
Follow @mervinej
Tweet
Quick Start
Complete CSS
Click to copy
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Click to copy
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Haml
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Pug
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Why BootstrapCDN believes in Subresource Integrity (SRI)
Maintained by @jdorfman , @mervinej and @XhmikosR
Homies be ScaleScale, Bootstrap, Sticker Mule, nixCraft & Fort Awesome
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Re: stop your mail

[Fungi4All]

From: pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu
>> It may come as a shock to you but most non-technical email users use
>> HTML email.
>
>His point wasn"t that they"re all HTML, it"s that they have nearly
>identical content and identically formatted HTML.
And my point was that let's say they all came from wanadoo.fr for which
the format is known and public, can you conclude they came from there?
But you seem to also pretend the term "most non-technical" email users
is not even there. So, to break it in change, this list is for non-technical
users who attempt to take a dive and install debian and experiencing
problems. It is not, by definition, a club of technical-users to be arrogant
against all new-comers. Like a group of ol'boyz drinking beer in the
river shooting snakes harassing all by-passers.
I think this is the real issue and not a half-assed attempt to figure out
spam and turning the conversation into a netiquette issue.
To lighten up the spirits here, this is the joke of the day:
Systemd allowing a service owned by 0day gaining root access.
Blame the debian-user but defend debian and systemd at all costs.
Am I on the good'ol'boyz'club blacklist or not yet?

Re: stop your mail

[Brian]

On Tue 11 Jul 2017 at 14:49:55 -0400, Fungi4All wrote:

[Opportunistic snipping in action]

> I do not have the capacity.

Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings. :)

(That's three more years of temporal punishment for me; answering
questions on GRUB, I suppose. But, please, not email etiquette or
spam).

-- 
Brian.

Re: stop your mail

[Joe Pfeiffer]

Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net> writes:

> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 05:18:54PM +0200, Sébastien Gautrin wrote:
>> The "stop your mail" and "PLEASE STOP YOUR MAILS" messages are definitely
>> not created by the owners of the email, though it might be done by a mobile
>> app as suggested.
>
> I've replied off-list to some of them to explain what (I think) is
> happening and they carry on conversation exactly as if they are very
> confused humans who just want the spam to stop.
>
> I've also had my own email address used as the from address of
> similar spam, thus forcing me to receive hundreds of "STOP THE MAIL"
> responses that look similar to these. At that time I came up with a
> boilerplate explanatory email to send back to these complainants,
> and any replies I got seemed similarly human-generated.
>
>> The proof of this is that they all have nearly the exact same content (some
>> add the list mail, some don't), all being HTML messages formatted the same
>> way.
>
> It may come as a shock to you but most non-technical email users use
> HTML email.

His point wasn't that they're all HTML, it's that they have nearly
identical content and identically formatted HTML.

Re: stop your mail

[Fungi4All]

From: deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk
>On Tue 11 Jul 2017 at 11:12:35 (-0400), Fungi4All wrote:
>> > From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org
> >>>On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:10:06PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
>  It may come as a shock to you but most non-technical email users use
>  HTML email.
> >>>
> >>> As long as they don"t do it *here* (or any other unix-oriented mailing
> >>> list), no problem.
> >
> >You are shifting topics and making up rules of your own to impose on
> >others. That"s very un-unix like. Why don"t you do this in your apple
> >mailing lists?
>
>Here, amongst the rules, are:
>
>Wrap your lines at 80 characters or less for ordinary
>discussion. Lines longer than 80 characters are acceptable for
>computer-generated output (e.g., ls -l).
>
>Never send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead.
I do not have the capacity to send anything different than I do
and I refuse to change my email to accommodate your peculiarities.
Especially on a public list that there seems to be no moderation
I will neither try to reveal my IP or use any of the big-brother
collaborators.
The issue here is that for a while here we are plastered by
hacking bot messages, which is the topic, and some are diverting
the issue to html senders. Like those spamers can not send
80 character ascii.
So, what about the rules? Hijacking the topic is just as much
of a problem here than anything else.

Re: stop your mail

[David Wright]

On Tue 11 Jul 2017 at 11:12:35 (-0400), Fungi4All wrote:
> > From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org
> >>On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:10:06PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> >>> It may come as a shock to you but most non-technical email users use
> >>> HTML email.
> >>
> >> As long as they don"t do it *here* (or any other unix-oriented mailing
> >> list), no problem.
> 
> You are shifting topics and making up rules of your own to impose on
> others. That's very un-unix like. Why don't you do this in your apple
> mailing lists?

Here, amongst the rules, are:

Wrap your lines at 80 characters or less for ordinary
discussion. Lines longer than 80 characters are acceptable for
computer-generated output (e.g., ls -l).

Never send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead.

https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/

Cheers,
David.

Re: stop your mail

[Fungi4All]

> From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org
>>On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:10:06PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
>>> It may come as a shock to you but most non-technical email users use
>>> HTML email.
>>
>> As long as they don"t do it *here* (or any other unix-oriented mailing
>> list), no problem.

You are shifting topics and making up rules of your own to impose on
others. That's very un-unix like. Why don't you do this in your apple
mailing lists?

Re: stop your mail

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:10:06PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> It may come as a shock to you but most non-technical email users use
> HTML email.

As long as they don't do it *here* (or any other unix-oriented mailing
list), no problem.

Re: stop your mail

[Fungi4All]

If the vast majority of junk comes from wanadoo.fr I am tempted to
think that it is a targeted effort to accumulate so many spam reports
for such email addresses that eventually the whole domain is considered
a spamers domain. Huge ISPs have been listed as spam sources this
way. To use an html template that matches the webmail's provider
is the least of problems bot admins face in their escapades.

Re: stop your mail

[tomas]

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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:10:06PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 05:18:54PM +0200, Sébastien Gautrin wrote:

[...]

> > The proof of this is that they all have nearly the exact same content (some
> > add the list mail, some don't), all being HTML messages formatted the same
> > way.
> 
> It may come as a shock to you but most non-technical email users use
> HTML email.

"Any sufficiently siloed user is indistinguishable from a bot"
(I hope Arthur C. Clarke has a lenient eye on this variant)

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Re: stop your mail

[Andy Smith]

Hello,

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 05:18:54PM +0200, Sébastien Gautrin wrote:
> The "stop your mail" and "PLEASE STOP YOUR MAILS" messages are definitely
> not created by the owners of the email, though it might be done by a mobile
> app as suggested.

I've replied off-list to some of them to explain what (I think) is
happening and they carry on conversation exactly as if they are very
confused humans who just want the spam to stop.

I've also had my own email address used as the from address of
similar spam, thus forcing me to receive hundreds of "STOP THE MAIL"
responses that look similar to these. At that time I came up with a
boilerplate explanatory email to send back to these complainants,
and any replies I got seemed similarly human-generated.

> The proof of this is that they all have nearly the exact same content (some
> add the list mail, some don't), all being HTML messages formatted the same
> way.

It may come as a shock to you but most non-technical email users use
HTML email.

> The source of those emails also clearly show that they are not sent by a
> traditional mailer, but most likely by a java-written automated program on
> windows, as seen in the message id, which for this last one was
> 
> 773946604.1112.1499496543913.JavaMail.www@wwinf1f28

That is simply a Java mail-sending library, so could very well be a
mobile email app. Lots of normal people read and respond to email on
their phones.

> We can thus definitely conclude that those requests to unsubscribe are
> indeed spam themselves, though it is still really unclear what their true
> purpose are.

I'm sorry but I don't think we can definitely conclude that. For me
the simplest explanation is merely that spam runs are taking place
with random addresses of real people and mailing lists used as the
from address. It is something I have seen happen for going on 2
decades now, and had happen to me from time to time (as in, my
addresses were used as the from address).

I have no need to concoct scenarios where the list is being
deliberately targeted in order to explain the behaviour we see.
Spammers generally send a lot of email and are not interested in
responding to any replies they get. They just want people to click
on links.

But if one were to believe that it is some sort of attack, there
isn't very much that one could do about it anyway, aside from
completely ignoring all of those emails. There's no real downside in
ignoring them so I'm not going to get worked up about people taking
it so personally!

Cheers,
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Re: stop your mail

[Sébastien Gautrin]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: stop your mail
From: Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: 2017-07-09


Hello,

On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 07:50:38PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:

These messages are the spam, themselves. The pretend "leave me
alone" prologue is just to disguise that status and attract your
attention until you read the quoted text.


I think it is far more likely that these people are responding to
spam that has been sent to them with the list's address as the from
address. The recipients do not know or care that the from address of
an email is not trustworthy¹, nor that they should not respond to
spam, so they just reply to express their anger.


The "stop your mail" and "PLEASE STOP YOUR MAILS" messages are 
definitely not created by the owners of the email, though it might be 
done by a mobile app as suggested.


The proof of this is that they all have nearly the exact same content 
(some add the list mail, some don't), all being HTML messages formatted 
the same way.


To be noted that the last two the list received are from email users of 
Orange France, thus most likely French, and that it is clear from the 
wording of those messages that they very unlikely to have been written 
by a French person.


The source of those emails also clearly show that they are not sent by a 
traditional mailer, but most likely by a java-written automated program 
on windows, as seen in the message id, which for this last one was


773946604.1112.1499496543913.JavaMail.www@wwinf1f28

In this we can see that the system user sending this mail with JavaMail 
is “www” and that the server sending the message is name “wwinf1f28”. 
The previous mail of such type (PLEASE STOP YOUR MAILS) was sent by the 
exact same server, with the following message id:


1662938282.1128.1499496664949.JavaMail.www@wwinf1f28

We can thus definitely conclude that those requests to unsubscribe are 
indeed spam themselves, though it is still really unclear what their 
true purpose are.

Re: stop your mail

[Ángel]

On 2017-07-09 at 07:32 +, Andy Smith wrote:
> The spammers' motivation is to use an address that is not associated
> with them but is a real address so cannot be easily blocked on the
> basis of from address alone.

Not just a real address, but an address belonging to a popular mailing
list. If eg. gmail started seeing lots of spammy emails with an email of
j...@example.com, that email address itself could become a spam
indicator (even if that was a real email). However, it receives enough
legitimate debian-user traffic to dwarf it. And even if moved the
classification of messages with this address into spam, actual
subscribers would vote in the opposite direction.
So this seems a pretty smart move, unless the recipient spam filters
also take into account that only the spammy ones don't come from
bendel.debian.org



PS: Why don't {lists.,}debian.org have spf records?


Kind regards

Re: shadow spam (was Re: stop your mail)

[Joel Rees]

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Thomas Schmitt  wrote:
> Hi,
>
[...]
>
> Joel Rees wrote:
>> (1) These messages may be a sort of generator for phishing targets.
>
> You mean that those who hit the "Smack Sender" button of their mail
> app show up as flotsam here and can be harvested without reveiling
> the harvester's mail address ?
> (This theory would imply that the reflector senders are real people
>  or their watchdog apps.)
>
> Eek. That would mean we would really have to take measures to not
> let appear most of the messages in subscriber mailboxes and archive.
> If we let this continue then we create a commercial incentive to
> flood us.

Of course, if the hypothetical "they" are looking for a commercially viable
way to harvest addresses from this list and are doing this, they've missed
something much more obvious.

And?

>> they might be setting up a noise
>> background against which to send steganographically encoded messages.
>
> That's a good one.
> We are testing ground for a novel low-bandwidth method to control
> bot nets or remote spies.

Not likely a testing ground.

> Ten hops over iPads, Galaxies, or WinPhones would be nearly as
> effective in hiding the sender as a Tor onion would be.
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas
>

Did I say something about onions?

-- 
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One of these days I'll get someone to pay me
to design a language that combines the best of Forth and C.
Then I'll be able to leap wide instruction sets with a single #ifdef,
run faster than a speeding infinite loop with a #define,
and stop all integer size bugs with my bare cast.
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More of my delusions:
http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2017/05/do-not-pay-modern-danegeld-ransomware.html
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/p/novels-i-am-writing.html

Re: shadow spam (was Re: stop your mail)

[Fungi4All]

> From: scdbac...@gmx.net
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> this conversation has gone viral itself.
> It is technically interesting to see what people think how stupid we
> are. I wonder if there is any other purpose than to make me wonder ?

Politically, the motive may be by some who will need the ground to push
an agenda. First you document a threat, you allow a crisis, then play the
card of the protector. Like an antivirus agency spreading a virus. So I
would be really cautious of any who would volunteer as moderators or
those who would promote a forum, like debian.uk is, where they have
to get copies of birth certificates 3 generations back to allow a member.

> Have a nice day :)
> Thomas

Have a great night
(AK)

Re: shadow spam (was Re: stop your mail)

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Fungi4All wrote:
> I remember 2 months ago I had received a response from what appeared
> as a list member responding to some spam that was sent by me to the list.

The first thing i checked on the current spam was that it is really
distributed by the list and not sent to me directly.
"Received:" headers like this one can be trusted if no other such headers
were added by my provider gmx.net:

  Received: from bendel.debian.org ([82.195.75.100]) by mx-ha.gmx.net
(mxgmx016 [212.227.15.9]) [...] for ;
Sun, 09 Jul 2017 11:51:20 +0200

(Of course anybody could add such a header to the mail when it gets
 sent. But then gmx.net would still add its own "Received:" header,)


> this conversation has gone viral itself.

It is technically interesting to see what people think how stupid we
are. I wonder if there is any other purpose than to make me wonder ?

Maybe it's Happy Recursion Week ? GNU is Not Unix !
Or it's a Fnord, meant to trigger a sleeping brain worm.


Joel Rees wrote:
> (1) These messages may be a sort of generator for phishing targets.

You mean that those who hit the "Smack Sender" button of their mail
app show up as flotsam here and can be harvested without reveiling
the harvester's mail address ?
(This theory would imply that the reflector senders are real people
 or their watchdog apps.)

Eek. That would mean we would really have to take measures to not
let appear most of the messages in subscriber mailboxes and archive.
If we let this continue then we create a commercial incentive to
flood us.


> they might be setting up a noise
> background against which to send steganographically encoded messages.

That's a good one.
We are testing ground for a novel low-bandwidth method to control
bot nets or remote spies.
Ten hops over iPads, Galaxies, or WinPhones would be nearly as
effective in hiding the sender as a Tor onion would be.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

shadow spam (was Re: stop your mail)

[Joel Rees]

Can I suggest two possibilities not apparently being considered?

(1) These messages may be a sort of generator for phishing targets.
(This is not currently a likely scenario, but you want to consider it.)

(2) These might be either the body of a message sent by a spatter
steganography technique, or they might be setting up a noise
background against which to send steganographically encoded
messages.

I'd suggest a third, which is true tin-foil-hat stuff, but you who are into
conspiracy theories can work that out yourselves.

Whenever I see a sudden rise in odd-looking spam, I tend to
assume something like the second possibility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography

-- 
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One of these days I'll get someone to pay me
to design a language that combines the best of Forth and C.
Then I'll be able to leap wide instruction sets with a single #ifdef,
run faster than a speeding infinite loop with a #define,
and stop all integer size bugs with my bare cast.
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More of my delusions:
http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2017/05/do-not-pay-modern-danegeld-ransomware.html
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/p/novels-i-am-writing.html

Re: stop your mail

[Fungi4All]

> UTC Time: July 9, 2017 9:41 AM
> From: scdbac...@gmx.net
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Hi,
> Andy Smith wrote:
>> I don"t think they care who receives the blowback.
> Just for sports i bet on the intention to annoy us and possibly the
> reflector mailers.
> (I am still undecided whether the reflectors are real.)
> I am subscribed to several lists. Among them only debian-user gets
> this special kind of spam. Do we have a dedicated enemy ?
> Damn. So close and still not enough:
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.8 required=4.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,GENDER,
> HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,
> THREADTOPIC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
> version=3.4.0
> ...
> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:12:43 +0200 (CEST)
> I wonder how many of these got caught with scores above 4.0 already.
> Have a nice day :)
> Thomas

I remember 2 months ago I had received a response from what appeared
as a list member responding to some spam that was sent by me to the list.
The response was something like
>
>
what?
So I fell for it and responded to this and the list telling everyone I had not
sent such email, or it didn't really come from my system. People were
asking me for headers where all I got was a message of the fake response
with minimal headers.
Maybe at the time they were fishing for how the mailist worked. But this
conversation has gone viral itself.

Re: stop your mail

[tomas]

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On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 11:41:29AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Andy Smith wrote:
> > I don't think they care who receives the blowback.
> 
> Just for sports i bet on the intention to annoy us and possibly the
> reflector mailers.
> (I am still undecided whether the reflectors are real.)
> 
> I am subscribed to several lists. Among them only debian-user gets
> this special kind of spam. Do we have a dedicated enemy ?
> 
> 
> Damn. So close and still not enough:
> 
>   X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.8 required=4.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,GENDER,
>   HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,
>   THREADTOPIC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
>   version=3.4.0
>   ...
>   Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:12:43 +0200 (CEST)
> 
> I wonder how many of these got caught with scores above 4.0 already.

I regularly bounce those to report-lists...@lists.debian.org. Perhaps
the filters get trained on those...

Cheers
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Re: stop your mail

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Andy Smith wrote:
> I don't think they care who receives the blowback.

Just for sports i bet on the intention to annoy us and possibly the
reflector mailers.
(I am still undecided whether the reflectors are real.)

I am subscribed to several lists. Among them only debian-user gets
this special kind of spam. Do we have a dedicated enemy ?


Damn. So close and still not enough:

  X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.8 required=4.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,GENDER,
  HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,
  THREADTOPIC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
  version=3.4.0
  ...
  Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:12:43 +0200 (CEST)

I wonder how many of these got caught with scores above 4.0 already.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: stop your mail

[Andy Smith]

Hello,

On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 07:50:38PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> These messages are the spam, themselves. The pretend "leave me
> alone" prologue is just to disguise that status and attract your
> attention until you read the quoted text.

I think it is far more likely that these people are responding to
spam that has been sent to them with the list's address as the from
address. The recipients do not know or care that the from address of
an email is not trustworthy¹, nor that they should not respond to
spam, so they just reply to express their anger.

I further hypothesise that this is not actually targeted behaviour
to inconvenience the mailing list specifically. I suspect that
massive lists of real email addresses have been harvested from
public mailing list archives and compromised address books etc and
these are used as from addresses on a random basis. Though it would
have to be one address per spam run rather than a different address
for each individual email, as these seem to come in bursts.

The spammers' motivation is to use an address that is not associated
with them but is a real address so cannot be easily blocked on the
basis of from address alone.

I don't think they care who receives the blowback.

Cheers,
Andy

¹ barring any of the other trusted identity schemes like SPF, DKIM,
  DMARC or crypto signed email.

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Re: stop your mail

[Nicolas George]

Le decadi 20 messidor, an CCXXV, Thomas Schmitt a écrit :
> But then why don't we ever see the original messages to which
> the alleged repliers raise protest ?

Because they do not exist, of course. These messages are the spam,
themselves. The pretend "leave me alone" prologue is just to disguise
that status and attract your attention until you read the quoted text.

The messages without spammy content in the quoted text are probably
decoys to confuse the automated or mental filters even more.

Regards,

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Re: stop your mail

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Either someone has managed to force-subscribe them to the list

The messages don't have "LDOSUBSCRIBER" in their "X-Spam-Status:"
headers. This indicates that the sender's mail address is not
subscribed. The sender as person might be subscribed by a different
address or might get forwarded messages which the list sends to
a subscribed address.

But then why don't we ever see the original messages to which
the alleged repliers raise protest ?

I wonder whether smartphone mail apps have a "Smack Sender" button,
which would explain the shallow-minded replies.


> By experience, such patterns don't persist for long enough to be
> worth the hassle of piling up yet another rule which quickly becomes
> obsolete. But if it persists...

The mails already aren't very far from reaching the threshold:
  X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=4.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,
DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VERIFIED,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,HTML_MESSAGE,
RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0
compared to yours:
  X-Spam-Status: No, score=-16.0 required=4.0 tests=FVGT_m_MULTI_ODD,
LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST,PGPSIGNATURE,RP_MATCHES_RCVD
autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0


i wrote:
> > Can real people be that stupid ?

Fung4all wrote:
> Look at how many people are NOT protesting the G20 [...]

It's an intelligence test. You pass if you do anything more useful
than standing near a few love parades and the expectable hooligan-police
brawl while the big shots are yawning in a ridiculously overdesigned
concert hall.


> with your digital identifying device in your pocket and wearing a hood.
> That scores lower in IQ than Trump.

Yep. Der Schwarze Block and our police leadership deserve each other.
Like Bob (http://monstersvsaliens.wikia.com/wiki/B.O.B.) they would
be dangerous if they had a brain.


> How about an image file send with every subscription with a 18 digit
> random code you would have to type manually to activate?

Doesn't this list send confirmation requests with a long random
URL and/or mail reply code as answer on subscription requests ?
But whatever, as said, the repliers are not subscribed and the alleged
original messages are not spread by our mailing list.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: stop your mail

[Michael Fothergill]

On 8 July 2017 at 16:52, Fungi4All  wrote:

>
> From: scdbac...@gmx.net
>
> Hi,
> (Can real people be that stupid ? Is this the proof for
> brain damage caused by mobile phones ?)
>
>
> Look at how many people are NOT protesting the G20, or
> the earth's summit of earth destroyers.  This is how bad this
> epidemic of IQ drainage has gotten.  It is all sucked through
> FB and chasing pokemen.
>
> Maybe our list"s spam filter could give such phrases a spam rating
> sufficent to drop them if the sender is not subscribed ?
>
>
> How about an image file send with every subscription with a 18 digit
> random code you would have to type manually to activate?  Then use
> something like an encryption key to post to the list, so fake headers
> get blocked.
>
>
​How about voice encryption software that has recordings of each of us
singing our favourite Engelbert Humperdinck and/or Tom Jones songs...?

​ie a Mars Attack style defence mechanism where the would be hacker would
do insane trying to create the perfect rendition and upload it to the
list...

Cheers

MF

> Have a nice day :)
>
>
> What is even worse than smart-phoniasis is protesting in Hamburg
> with your digital identifying device in your pocket and wearing a hood.
> That scores lower in IQ than Trump.
>
> Have a great night
>

Re: stop your mail

[Fungi4All]

> From: scdbac...@gmx.net
> Hi,
> (Can real people be that stupid ? Is this the proof for
> brain damage caused by mobile phones ?)

Look at how many people are NOT protesting the G20, or
the earth's summit of earth destroyers. This is how bad this
epidemic of IQ drainage has gotten. It is all sucked through
FB and chasing pokemen.

> Maybe our list"s spam filter could give such phrases a spam rating
> sufficent to drop them if the sender is not subscribed ?

How about an image file send with every subscription with a 18 digit
random code you would have to type manually to activate? Then use
something like an encryption key to post to the list, so fake headers
get blocked.

> Have a nice day :)

What is even worse than smart-phoniasis is protesting in Hamburg
with your digital identifying device in your pocket and wearing a hood.
That scores lower in IQ than Trump.
Have a great night

Re: stop your mail

[tomas]

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On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 05:13:20PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Jamie White wrote:
> > The correct unsubscribe procedue is [...]
> 
> I am very sure that the protest raising people are _not_ subscribed
> to debian-user@lists.debian.org . If they are real at all, then they
> got spam with our list as fake sender or as fake receiver of replies.

That's my hunch, too. Either someone has managed to force-subscribe
them to the list (how? they must somehow control their mail address,
or they have found a gap in Debian's ML manager), or the senders
are fake. But then... *what* are they doing?

> I wonder about the motivation behind that recent spam annoyance.

Me too :-/

> But the "leave me alone" mails mostly look as fake as those original
> messages. (Can real people be that stupid ? Is this the proof for
> brain damage caused by mobile phones ?)

(1) they can. (2) perhaps.

[...]

> Maybe our list's spam filter could give such phrases a spam rating
> sufficent to drop them if the sender is not subscribed ?

By experience, such patterns don't persist for long enough to be
worth the hassle of piling up yet another rule which quickly becomes
obsolete. But if it persists...

Strange.

> Have a nice day :)

Likewise :)

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Re: stop your mail

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Jamie White wrote:
> The correct unsubscribe procedue is [...]

I am very sure that the protest raising people are _not_ subscribed
to debian-user@lists.debian.org . If they are real at all, then they
got spam with our list as fake sender or as fake receiver of replies.

If ever, then this is the story to tell the senders.
(Or maybe a hint to look for malware on their computers.)



I wonder about the motivation behind that recent spam annoyance.

Not that i would dislike modern french poetry. I don't get the fun in
the dutch stuffi, though. Generally it would help the archives if that
spam could be dropped on the first hand.

If the senders are real, then they got our mailing list address from
fake headers in the mails to which they reply. After all we do not
see the alleged original messages on our list.

But the "leave me alone" mails mostly look as fake as those original
messages. (Can real people be that stupid ? Is this the proof for
brain damage caused by mobile phones ?)

I see two common patterns:

Many of the spams bear links to "http://bit.ly/; or "http://bitly.com;.

Many of them reveal by what kind of device the mobile victim replied
or is pretented to have replied:
"Sent from my Wiko RAINBOW UP 4G"
"Envoyé à partir de mon Windows Phone" (aka Doppeldeppendevice)
"Envoyé depuis mon appareil mobile Samsung"
"Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad"
"Verzonden vanaf mijn Huawei mobiele telefoon"
"Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung Galaxy-smartphone."
"Envoyer de Huawei Y360"
"Envoyé depuis un mobile Samsung"
"Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy."
"Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone"

Maybe our list's spam filter could give such phrases a spam rating
sufficent to drop them if the sender is not subscribed ?


Have a nice day :)

Re: stop your mail

[Jamie White]

Hi

The correct unsubscribe procedue is to go here:
https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe

Jamie



On Saturday, July 8, 2017, PM  wrote:

>
>
> I do not want to be in your mailing list anymore. Please delete my email
> address from your list. Stop your mails Thanks again
>


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stop your mail

[PM]

 
I do not want to be in your mailing list anymore. Please delete my email 
address from your list. Stop your mails Thanks again

Thanks for your mail

[Rajavel]

Thanks for your mail. Please keep on listening to Love Guru, only on Radio City 
91.1FM, Monday to Saturday - 9pm to 1am. You can listen to Love Guru, from any 
part of the world through, Radio City Tamil web radio. The link is available in 
www.planetradiocity.com. 
Love the Love...
with loads of love..
LOVE GURU




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Re: Thanks for your mail

[Doug]

On 09/26/2014 09:13 AM, Rajavel wrote:
 
 
 Thanks for your mail. Please keep on listening to Love Guru, only on Radio 
 City 91.1FM, Monday to Saturday - 9pm to 1am. You can listen to Love Guru, 
 from any part of the world through, Radio City Tamil web radio. The link is 
 available in www.planetradiocity.com.
 Love the Love...
 with loads of love..
 LOVE GURU
 
 
 
 
 RADIOCITY 91.1FM, MUSIC BROADCAST PVT LTD, Mumbai, India
 
 
 
 
I wouldn't listen to that garbage if it was the only radio station in the world!


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Re: Thanks for your mail

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 26 September 2014 16:53:56 Doug wrote:
 On 09/26/2014 09:13 AM, Rajavel wrote:

 I wouldn't listen to that garbage if it was the only radio station in the
 world!

Must you reply to spam. :-(  It makes life harder for the filters.

Lisi


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Re: your mail

[Xavier Oswald]

On 22:10 Tue 28 Sep , rk wrote:
 Bonjour,
 
 Comment connaître le paquet à installer lorsqu'une fonction n'est pas
 documentée dans le manuel.
 En l'occurrence j'ai fait un man gethostbyname et je n'ai pas d'entrée dans
 le man page, j'en déduis donc qu'il me faut installer une doc mais de quel
 paquet s'agit-il ?

Dans ce genre de situation apt-file est ton ami.

$apt-file search gethostbyname
[snip...]
manpages-dev: /usr/share/man/man3/gethostbyname.3.gz
manpages-fr-dev: /usr/share/man/fr/man3/gethostbyname.3.gz
[snip...]

Amicalement,
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Re: your mail

[Robert Holtzman]

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Steffan Wood wrote:

I did check this over a week ago but it seems nothing has been done to 
resolve it yet. According to the package list, the current stable version of 
Irssi is 0.8.12-6.
Actually, the current stable version of Irssi is 0.8.13. I'm surprised this 
hasn't been updated on the Debian package list yet. When will this be updated 
so the latest release can be fetched from aptitude?


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[Pedro Insua]

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:03:01AM -0400, Denny Lopez Martinez wrote:
 Hola, alguno de ustedes sabe donde es que se encuentra el historial del 
 copete guardado, es decir para eliminarlo en que directorio... yo se que el 
 del gajim esta en 
  
 /home/usuario/.gajim/logs.db, si alguno de ustedes sabe donde es que esta el 
 del kopete me escribe
  
 de antemano gracias 

  Se debe de poner el tema sobre el que trata el corréo en el
  'asunto/subject'. De esta manera las búsquedas son más
  sencillas..etc 

  Mirando en 'google', 'yahoo' etc.. obtiene la respuesta
  rápidamente... Imagino que en la web de Kopete también saldrá la
  susodicha información.

  Pero en fin... busque por '~/.kde' o '~/.kde4' ...

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[Andrei Popescu]

On Wed,30.Jul.08, 08:07:55, M. Piscaer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times but 
 they dont reach the destination.
 
Well, this one did. You might want to write a (good) subject for your 
mail, otherwise some software might consider your mail as spam and also  
subscribe to http://lists.debian.org/whitelist

Regards,
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[Sebastian Günther]

* M. Piscaer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [30.07.08 08:09]:
 Hi,
 
 I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times 
 but they dont reach the destination. 
 

Well, I think maybe the Spam Filter was hitting you:

This Mail obviously barely came through:

 X-Virus-Scanned: at lists.debian.org with policy bank en-ht
 X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=2.406 tagged_above=3.6 required=5.3
 tests=[LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=2.499,
 MISSING_SUBJECT=2.307, NOSUBJECT=2.5, RDNS_NONE=0.1]
 X-Rc-Virus: 2007-09-13_01
 X-Rc-Spam: 2007-10-04_01


Maybe you should use a MUA, which is a little less sloppy about 
formating an email.

 Regards,
 
 M. Piscaer

HTH
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Re: your mail

[M. Piscaer]

M. Piscaer schreef:

Hi,

I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times but they 
dont reach the destination.

Regards,

M. Piscaer
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Hi,

First of all, thank you for giving an good reaction. In the feature i 
will use an subject. I did forgot to fill it out.


I looked in the source of the email, at the SPAM header, so that i can 
see whats going wrong. Most of the failures that i saw are corrected. 
For the sloppy MTU i use, i will contact the creators for it, in the 
meanwille i try to use an another client. Also i have subscript for the 
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I hope that next time my message will go thru.

Thank you

Regards,

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[Andrei Popescu]

On Wed,30.Jul.08, 10:21:20, M. Piscaer wrote:

 I hope that next time my message will go thru.

If you still have troubles you should write to 
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[Steve C. Lamb]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:03:23AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Wed,30.Jul.08, 08:07:55, M. Piscaer wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times but
  they dont reach the destination.
  
 Well, this one did. You might want to write a (good) subject for your mail,
 otherwise some software might consider your mail as spam 

For example his message was the reason for the latest you bounced
messages from us! notification from lists.debian.org.  :/

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[Michiel Piscaer]

-Original message-
From: Steve C. Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 07/30/08 18:00:58
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org; 
Subject: Re: your mail

 On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:03:23AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  On Wed,30.Jul.08, 08:07:55, M. Piscaer wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times but
   they dont reach the destination.
   
  Well, this one did. You might want to write a (good) subject for your mail,
  otherwise some software might consider your mail as spam 
 
 For example his message was the reason for the latest you bounced
 messages from us! notification from lists.debian.org.  :/


I didn't reseved this mail or anything like this, is it many that i graylist 
all of my incommimg mail first?

Regards,

Michiel Piscaer


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Re: Re: your mail

[Sam Kuper]

2008/7/30 Michiel Piscaer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I didn't reseved this mail or anything like this, is it many that i
 graylist all of my incommimg mail first?


 If you are a subscriber to the list, and you send an email to the list from
the email account you subscribed with, the email will reach the list. As is
the *NIX way, you will not normally be notified in case of success, only in
case of failure.

So the fact that you did not receive acknowledgement after posting to the
list does not imply that the post was not successful. If it had failed, you
should have received a warning.

Sam

Re: your mail

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:40:48PM +0530, sini kumar wrote:
 
 Hi all I'm from U.A.E i would like to use GNU LINUX in my laptop
 Compaq presario F700 ,processer is Mobile AMD Sempronm(tm)Processor
 3600+   2.00Ghz,,1Gb ram , system type is 32bit operating system. so
 how can i install and where i get this . i am waiting for your repley
 thanking you 

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I'm replying directly to you as well as the list since you are new and
may not be subscribed.

Go to the debian website and read the installation manual (not the short
HOWTO).  Also, read the debian-reference, which is a bit out-of-date but
gives some good information to someone new to debian.

There's also lots of other documentation on the debian website.

The installation manual will have links to the correct installation
material.  If your box can boot a CD and you are able to burn a CD, your
best bet is to download the Etch i386 netinst.iso file and burn t to CD.
Then boot the installer.

Good luck.

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RE: your mail

[Andrew Critchlow]

Tis ok,
Its on a testing server and isn't live. It was a fresh installation so files 
couldn't have been tampered with.
 
 
 
thanks anyhow



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 have searched the internet and cannot find anything about this issue:When a 
 user logs into the debian box they get You Have newmailFor some reason 
 there isn't a space in between 'new' and 'mail'. Anyone know how to correct 
 this? Thanks  I can't help you, but I'd be worried about this. It looks as 
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On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 10:31:11PM +, Andrew Critchlow wrote:
 I have a question which I have searched the internet and cannot find anything 
 about this issue:When a user logs into the debian box they get You Have 
 newmailFor some reason there isn't a space in between 'new' and 'mail'. 
 Anyone know how to correct this? Thanks

I can't help you, but I'd be worried about this.  It looks as if 
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[Guennadi Liakhovetski]

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Rick Thomas wrote:

   There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon
   Some things such as themes, sounds, or background settings, may not
 work correctly.
   The Settings Daemon restarted too many times
 
   The last error message was:
   System Exception:IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0:
   Child process did not give an error message,
   unknown failure occurred.
   Gnome will try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you
 login.
   [close]
 
 When I click [close] the wiggling stops and everything is (as far as I can
 tell) normal until I log out
 and try to login again.

The fact that after closing this window the machine behaves normally 
again, seems to suggest, that that's where you should search for the 
problem. Try to find out what the Settings Daemon does, maybe try to start 
it manually under strace and see where it fails? Or just starting it in 
the foreground might give some output on the terminal, look for verbouse 
or debugging mode. Or follow the advises above - try to select another 
theme, see if your sound works, etc.

Don't have any etch with X here, so, cannot verify myself.

Thanks
Guennadi
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[Kevin Mark]

On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 03:52:33PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
 Package: gnome-desktop
 
 I really don't know what package to file this bug report under.  If I  
 make it to installation-reports, FJP will just say, The installer  
 did everything right, so I'm closing this report. which seems a  
 little like the surgeon who said, The operation was as success.  Too  
 bad, the patient died.  But that's not my problem!
 
 I'm picking gnome-desktop out of thin air, if only because I don't  
 get this problem with KDE desktop manager.  Will somebody who knows,  
 please redirect it to the correct place!
Hi Rick,
while I do not know about the accuracy of your claim to the cause of the
error, I can make a point about Debian procedure: if you feel that a
Debian developer closed a bug report incorrectly and you can make a
claim that you feel this is incorrect, you can bring your case to the
Debian technical committee where this matter will be decided. And if the
committee agrees with you, then the Developer will then follow their
ruling.
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[boube]

On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 12:43:01AM +0200, Francisco G. wrote:
 Hola a todos, tengo un servidor y una pequeña red local, me gustaría saber
 si sería posible montar una especia de Servidor de Mp3s, me explico:
 
 Busco una aplicación servidor y otra cliente para que cada usuario de la
 red local seleccione una canción del servidor y la escuche.
 
apt-get install gnump3d

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RE: your mail

[Georges LEROUX]

-Message d'origine-
De : Simon Paillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Cc : debian-l10n-french@lists.debian.org
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On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 01:16:21PM -0200, Georges LEROUX wrote:
 Bonjour,

Bonsoir,

 Quelqu'un peut il me dire où trouver le paquet Debian pour la tour
virtuelle
 de cederoms SLCD.

 Merci d'avance.

Cette liste de diffusion est consacrée à la traduction, tu devrais
plutôt envoyer ton courriel à debian-user-french.

bonne recherche

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Re: your mail

[Robert PaneQ! Pankowecki (rupert)]

Dnia 10-03-2006, pią o godzinie 11:50 +0100, Piotr Stefański napisał(a):
 Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo napisał(a):
 
 Jezeli masz zaproszenia na Gmail wyslij mi
 je ile tylko mozesz
 
 Na jeden adres śle się jedno, więc nie bardzo wiem o co Ci chodzi.
   
 Wbrew regulaminowi GMail, paru bystrzaków chce się dorobić na
 sprzedaży zaproszeń. A ten gość pewnie wykombinował, że jak mu się
 prześle wiele zaproszeń, to wiele będzie mógł potem sprzedać.
 
A może źle zrozumieliście jego intencję ile tylko możesz w znaczeniu
o ile tylko możesz a nie tak wiele jak tylko się da. Może...


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[Wojciech Ziniewicz]

06-03-12, Robert PaneQ! Pankowecki (rupert) [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):
 Dnia 10-03-2006, pią o godzinie 11:50 +0100, Piotr Stefański napisał(a):
  Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo napisał(a):
 
  Jezeli masz zaproszenia na Gmail wyslij mi
  je ile tylko mozesz
  
  Na jeden adres śle się jedno, więc nie bardzo wiem o co Ci chodzi.
  
  Wbrew regulaminowi GMail, paru bystrzaków chce się dorobić na
  sprzedaży zaproszeń. A ten gość pewnie wykombinował, że jak mu się
  prześle wiele zaproszeń, to wiele będzie mógł potem sprzedać.
 
 A może źle zrozumieliście jego intencję ile tylko możesz w znaczeniu
 o ile tylko możesz a nie tak wiele jak tylko się da. Może...

na jeden adres można wysłac tlyko jedno zaproszenie :| . w przypadku
gogla to chyba wiecej niż logiczne.


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[Piotr Stefański]

Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo napisał(a):

Jezeli masz zaproszenia na Gmail wyslij mi
je ile tylko mozesz



Na jeden adres śle się jedno, więc nie bardzo wiem o co Ci chodzi.
  


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On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 08:16:46PM +0100, Przemek - wrote:
 Jezeli masz zaproszenia na Gmail wyslij mi
 je ile tylko mozesz

Na jeden adres śle się jedno, więc nie bardzo wiem o co Ci chodzi.

pozdr,
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[Steve Block]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:29:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?
X-Accept-Language: en
Priority: normal
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  I am using a 
DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried using a Matrox Millennium 
II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have been getting an xfree86 server crash 
saying that the screen is not found.  I have also tried an older Trident 
video card running it in VGA mode with the same error.

I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out there 
who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  I would 
like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and the extent 
to which it works.

I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this system 
running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.


I can't answer your question but I can suggest that you use an 
appropriate subject in your emails so that those who just skim the list 
can see what you're asking about.


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Re: your mail - Matrox video card help on Alpha

[Shawn Lamson]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:04:20 -0600
Steve Block [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:29:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?
 X-Accept-Language: en
 Priority: normal
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Disposition: inline
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  
 I am using a DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried 
 using a Matrox Millennium II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have 
 been getting an xfree86 server crash saying that the screen is not found.  
 I have also tried an older Trident video card running it in VGA mode with 
 the same error.
 
 I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
 Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out 
 there who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  
 I would like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and 
 the extent to which it works.
 
 I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this 
 system running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.
 
 I can't answer your question but I can suggest that you use an 
 appropriate subject in your emails so that those who just skim the list 
 can see what you're asking about.

true 'dat... OP screen not found wouldn't have anything to do with the video 
drivers necessarily.. it could mean that there is no screen defined in 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf

 
# **
# Screen sections
# **

# Any number of screen sections may be present.  Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen.  A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the -screen
# option.
Section Screen
Identifier  Screen 1
Device  rosewill gf 6600
Monitor Sceptre
DefaultDepth 24

 

you can try #xorgconfig if you haven't configured an xorg.conf file yet... have 
your specs handy.



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On (01/11/05 13:41), Jose Benavides G. wrote:

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[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 the mental interface of
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 On (01/11/05 13:41), Jose Benavides G. wrote:
 
 Go to:
 http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe
 
 to subscribe

ROFL

To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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[Christian Schmidt]

Hallo Felix,

Felix Droste, 05.09.2005 (d.m.y):

 Warning
 : mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
 '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in
 /home/www/confixx/html/functions.inc.php
 on line
 327
 Verbindung zur Datenbank fehlgeschlagen!

Stell doch erstmal sicher, ob der mysql-Daemon auch laeuft.

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Re: your mail [non-root shutdown]

[Dave Thayer]

On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 06:21:47AM +, Prabu Subroto wrote:
 Dear my friends...
 
 I want each user of a desktop can shutdown the desktop after they are  
 finished with their job on the desktop.
 

In addition to the other posts suggestions you might look into setting up
ACPI to monitor the power button. Acpid will do a clean shutdown and
power-off on most modern machines, not just laptops.

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[David Jardine]

On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 06:21:47AM +, Prabu Subroto wrote:
 Dear my friends...
 
 I want each user of a desktop can shutdown the desktop after they are  
 finished with their job on the desktop.
 
 Till now only root can do shutdown.
 
 How can I do to make the non-root user can shutdown and reboot a debian  
 box.
 
 Thank you very much in advance.

Look at the sudo package, which enables you to give specific users 
(or any user) root access for specific commands (or any command).  

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* Karin und Jochen Rieger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050824 11:51]:
 wo finde ich application/x-java-vm?

Im netz:  http://www.google.de/search?q=application%2Fx-java-vm
Als Datei auf dem Rechner: find / -name application/x-java-vm
In irgendwelchen Dateien: find / -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep 
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[nmag only]

On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 02:46:40PM -0500, oscar zarate wrote:
 hola tengo problemas para instalar mi debian para amd64 se arranca el
 cd 1 no se por que... espero que  me puedan ayudar  por que me dicen
 que ha la mejor hay que hacer alguna configuracion del bios

No entiendo bien tu consulta, pero instala normalmente como i386,
luego en la sección main de sarge encontrarás:

~$ apt-cache search kernel 2.6.8 amd64
kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-generic - Linux kernel headers 2.6.8 for generic 
x86_64 systems
kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.8 on 
AMD64 systems
kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.8 
on AMD64 SMP systems
kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-generic - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on 
generic x86_64 systems
kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on AMD64 
systems
kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on 
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[Serdar Aytekin]

Merhaba,

* ulami star [Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 12:46:51AM +0300]
[...]
 E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
 
 sorunu çıkıyor.

 bu sorunu ben yaratmış olabilirim..  nedir bu acaba ? birde
 /var/cache/apt altında
 archives klasörü yok... 

Iki farkli yontem ile sorunu gidermeyi deneyebilirsiniz. Birinci yontem
/var/cache/apt/ altindaki dizin ve dosya yapisini yeniden elle 
olusturmak. Bunun icin soyle bir yontem izlenebilir.

# mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives
# touch /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
# mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
# chmod 755 /var/cache/apt/archives /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
# chmod 640 /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
# chown root.root -R /var/cache/apt/archives

Ikinci yontem apt paketini yeniden dpkg ile kurmak. Bunun icinde:

# wget http://ftp.tr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.28.6_i386.deb
# dpkg -i apt_0.5.28.6_i386.deb

Benzeri bir yontem uygulanabilir.

 umarım sorumu doru yere sormuşumdur ilk sorum bu henüz.. :(

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[ulami star]

merhaba

teşekkürler hocam

söylemiştim burayı ilk kullanışım ve hızınıza hayran kaldım dorusu... 

sorun sanırım çözüldü. hata vermedi.  javayı kurmaya uraşıyordum uzun
zamandır. apt olmayınca normal olarak dökümanlarınızdan
faydalanamıyordum. sonunda buraya başvurdum. ve halloldu. gerçi daha
kuramadım ama dökümanlarınızda sağolsun herşey mevcut. oraya bakarak
uyguluyorum. ufak tefek şeyler çıkıyor ama herhalde sorunu hallederim
:)

kolay gelsin size tekrar teşekkürler...

görüşmek umuduyla...   



On 8/7/05, Serdar Aytekin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Merhaba,
 
 * ulami star [Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 12:46:51AM +0300]
 [...]
  E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
 
  sorunu çıkıyor.
 
  bu sorunu ben yaratmış olabilirim..  nedir bu acaba ? birde
  /var/cache/apt altında
  archives klasörü yok...
 
 Iki farkli yontem ile sorunu gidermeyi deneyebilirsiniz. Birinci yontem
 /var/cache/apt/ altindaki dizin ve dosya yapisini yeniden elle
 olusturmak. Bunun icin soyle bir yontem izlenebilir.
 
 # mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives
 # touch /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
 # mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
 # chmod 755 /var/cache/apt/archives /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
 # chmod 640 /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
 # chown root.root -R /var/cache/apt/archives
 
 Ikinci yontem apt paketini yeniden dpkg ile kurmak. Bunun icinde:
 
 # wget http://ftp.tr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.28.6_i386.deb
 # dpkg -i apt_0.5.28.6_i386.deb
 
 Benzeri bir yontem uygulanabilir.
 
  umarım sorumu doru yere sormuşumdur ilk sorum bu henüz.. :(
 
 Evet dogru listeye sordunuz. Hosgeldiniz.
 
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[Ishwar Rattan]

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, Alberto Cupul wrote:

 hola, soy nuevo en este sistema, pero tengo un problema, no puedo no
 instalar el synaptik (uso esta linea de codigo: apt-get install
 sinaptik   y me dice q no lo pudo encontrar).

Try apt-get install synaptic

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On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 08:15:04PM -0500, Alberto Cupul wrote:
 hola, soy nuevo en este sistema, pero tengo un problema, no puedo no
 instalar el synaptik (uso esta linea de codigo: apt-get install
 sinaptik   y me dice q no lo pudo encontrar).
 y tambien no puedo cambiar los permisos de mis unidades.
 Espero me puedan ayudar.
 

El problema és porque el paquete se llama synaptic.

Para que sepas, esta lista és para discusiones en ingles.  Si quieres
una lista para discusiones en español, entonces es mejor usar la lista
debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org y no esta.

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* Stéphane Rigoulot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-12 13:54] :
 
 Bonjour,

[...]

Peux-tu, stp, ne pas inclure de HTML et d'image et mettre un sujet
correct ? (si, si, ce doit être possible de faire cela avec Outlook)

2 adresses utiles :

RFC 1855 Les règles de la Netiquette
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Code de conduite des listes Debian
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On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 07:47:22PM +0200, sabina wrote:
 Please i need driver es 1373

It looks like the driver for the Ensoniq es1371 sound chip
is supported in Linux through the es1371 module. Type

cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`

Then type

find . -iname '*es1371*'

You should get a couple drivers back -- one containing the
word 'oss', and another containing 'pci'. You'll need to do

modprobe es1371

to load the module. There are lots of other steps on the way
to getting your card to play sounds (this really ought to be
automatic, and in my experience normally is -- why didn't it
load automatically for you?), but that's a start.

A hint: you'll get much better responses to questions like
this if

1) you include a descriptive subject line, and
2) you tell us what you've tried to do, what worked and what
didn't. Then we'll know how to direct our advice.

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Re: your mail

[Werner Mahr]

Am Sonntag, 20. Februar 2005 03:01 schrieb Michelle Konzack:
 Am 2005-02-20 02:19:03, schrieb Werner Mahr:
  WAS HAB ICH? Ich hatte bis jetz noch garnicht geantwortet. Wenn ich
  mir

 Du hast am 19.02.2005 um 14:47:02 eine Message ohne Subject mit KMail
 gesendet woraufhin Walter ebenso ohne Subject mit Mutt geantwortet
 hat. Daraufhin habe ich geantwortet und mutt hat den Betreff ergänzt.
 Eigenartigerweise verwende ich die gleiche mutt Version wie Walter.

  aber den Faden so ansehe, dann fällt mir auf, das das Subject sich
  bei deiner ersten Antwort gändert hat. Vielleicht hast du Werner
  mit Walter verwechselt, aber auch der kann nicht dafür.

 Neee, denn DU hast keinen Betref gesendet...

Das selbe Problem wie in dem RAW Image... Thread. Soll ich dir von dem 
hier auch noch nen Screenshotschicken?

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[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-02-20 12:51:02, schrieb Werner Mahr:
 Am Sonntag, 20. Februar 2005 03:01 schrieb Michelle Konzack:
  Am 2005-02-20 02:19:03, schrieb Werner Mahr:
   WAS HAB ICH? Ich hatte bis jetz noch garnicht geantwortet. Wenn ich
   mir
 
  Du hast am 19.02.2005 um 14:47:02 eine Message ohne Subject mit KMail
  gesendet woraufhin Walter ebenso ohne Subject mit Mutt geantwortet
  hat. Daraufhin habe ich geantwortet und mutt hat den Betreff ergänzt.
  Eigenartigerweise verwende ich die gleiche mutt Version wie Walter.
 
   aber den Faden so ansehe, dann fällt mir auf, das das Subject sich
   bei deiner ersten Antwort gändert hat. Vielleicht hast du Werner
   mit Walter verwechselt, aber auch der kann nicht dafür.
 
  Neee, denn DU hast keinen Betref gesendet...
 
 Das selbe Problem wie in dem RAW Image... Thread. Soll ich dir von dem 
 hier auch noch nen Screenshotschicken?

Mittlerweile habe ich es herausgefunden:spamassassin

Ich habe einfach ein

  __( '/home/michelle.konzack/.procmailrc' )
 /
| :0 fh
| | $HOME/bin/checksubject --checkpoint 18
| 
| :0 fw
| *  20
| | /usr/bin/spamc
| 
| :0 fh
| | $HOME/bin/checksubject --checkpoint 19
 \__

Das schreibt mir eine Logdatei mit den Subjects...

So habe ich herausgefunden das 'spamassassin' mir das Subject wegfrißt,
wenn darin ein rfc2047 ist.

Die Frage ist nun, warum das von einem tag auf den anderen so ist...

Also mein ~/.spamassassin hat mitlerweile 56 MByte wobei bayes_seen
und bayes_toks jeweils so um die  22 MByte groß sind

Kann sein, das 'spamassassin' damit nicht mehr klarkommt...

Greetings
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[Matthias Houdek]

Am Sonntag, 20. Februar 2005 03:01 schrieb Michelle Konzack:
 Am 2005-02-20 02:19:03, schrieb Werner Mahr:
  WAS HAB ICH? Ich hatte bis jetz noch garnicht geantwortet. Wenn ich
  mir

 Du hast am 19.02.2005 um 14:47:02 eine Message ohne Subject mit KMail
 gesendet woraufhin Walter ebenso ohne Subject mit Mutt geantwortet
 hat. Daraufhin habe ich geantwortet und mutt hat den Betreff ergänzt.
 Eigenartigerweise verwende ich die gleiche mutt Version wie Walter.

Komisch. Ich hab so langsam den Eindruck, Michelle sollte sich ihr mutt 
mal vorknöpfen. Das scheint allmählich eigene Wege gehen zu wollen. 
(Sind das Vorboten künstlicher Intelligenz? *g*)

Die Mail von Werner (19.02.2005, 14:47.02 hat eindeutig:

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ein Subjekt. Ein sehr schönes sogar ;-)

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Re: your mail

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-02-19 19:31:00, schrieb Walter Saner:
 Werner Mahr schrieb:
 
  ich weiß, ich sollte solche fragen nicht stellen, aber bevor ich jetz 

Da kann manchmal eigenartiges herauskommen  :-)

  ein Programm entferne und mich nachher nichtmehr einwählen kann um es 
  zu reparieren, frage ich dich lieber vorher.
  ppp und pppoe sind klar, aber wie wird die Verbindung aufgebaut?
 
 Zuverlässig.

:-)

 Ciao
 Walter

Greetings
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Michelle Konzack schrieb:

 Am 2005-02-19 19:31:00, schrieb Walter Saner:
  Werner Mahr schrieb:
  
   ich weiß, ich sollte solche fragen nicht stellen, aber bevor ich jetz 
 
 Da kann manchmal eigenartiges herauskommen  :-)

Naja, es wäre hilfreich, wenn Werner etwas konkreter werden könnte.


Ist bei mir etwas kaputt oder woher kommt das neue Subject?

Ciao
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[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-02-19 22:02:10, schrieb Walter Saner:

 Naja, es wäre hilfreich, wenn Werner etwas konkreter werden könnte.
 
 
 Ist bei mir etwas kaputt oder woher kommt das neue Subject?

Werner hat bei seiner Antwort das Subject gelöscht...

...und MEIN 'mutt' hat es automatisch generiert.

Abgesehen hat Werner den Faden kaputt gemacht indem er
den References:  Header gelöscht hat.

 Ciao
 Walter

Greetings
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[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-02-19 23:54:09, schrieb Bernd Schwendele:

 Also, das hab' ich mal versucht.
 
 dd of=hd.img bs=1024 seek=200 count=0
 losetup /dev/loop1 /home/besc2008/hd.img
 mount -o loop /dev/loop1 /mnt/loop/

 Allerdings sagt er mir dann:
 
 mount: you must specify the filesystem type
 
 Hmmm. Nach RAW hab ich schon geschaut. Man ich steh' echt auf dem 
 Schlauch...

Wie währe es mit:

dd of=hd.img bs=1024 seek=200 count=0
mkfs.msdos -F 32 hd.img
mount -t vfat hd.img /mnt/loop -o loop

Funktioniert bei mit mit 250 loop Devices.

 Gruß
  Bernd

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Re: your mail

[Udo Mueller]

Hallo Michelle,

dein mutt scheint nicht korrekt konfiguriert zu sein.
Es ersetzt gültige Subjekte einfach mit einem your mail.

Kannst du das bitte ändern?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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Re: your mail

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-02-20 01:52:15, schrieb Udo Mueller:
 Hallo Michelle,
 
 dein mutt scheint nicht korrekt konfiguriert zu sein.
 Es ersetzt gültige Subjekte einfach mit einem your mail.

Welches gültige Subject ?
Da war keins.

 Kannst du das bitte ändern?

??? - das ist hardcoded...

Und ich habe keine Lust, wenn irgendjemand der meinung ist, keine
Betreffzeile zu setzen den krempel auch noch manell zu editieren.

 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 
 Udo Müller

Greetings
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Re: your mail

[Hartmut Figge]

Michelle Konzack:
Am 2005-02-20 01:52:15, schrieb Udo Mueller:

 dein mutt scheint nicht korrekt konfiguriert zu sein.
 Es ersetzt gültige Subjekte einfach mit einem your mail.

Welches gültige Subject ?
Da war keins.

Schau mal: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/subject.png

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[Werner Mahr]

Am Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 22:27 schrieb Michelle Konzack:
 Am 2005-02-19 22:02:10, schrieb Walter Saner:
  Naja, es wäre hilfreich, wenn Werner etwas konkreter werden könnte.
 
 
  Ist bei mir etwas kaputt oder woher kommt das neue Subject?

 Werner hat bei seiner Antwort das Subject gelöscht...

 ...und MEIN 'mutt' hat es automatisch generiert.

 Abgesehen hat Werner den Faden kaputt gemacht indem er
 den References:  Header gelöscht hat.

WAS HAB ICH? Ich hatte bis jetz noch garnicht geantwortet. Wenn ich mir 
aber den Faden so ansehe, dann fällt mir auf, das das Subject sich bei 
deiner ersten Antwort gändert hat. Vielleicht hast du Werner mit Walter 
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[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-02-20 02:19:03, schrieb Werner Mahr:

 WAS HAB ICH? Ich hatte bis jetz noch garnicht geantwortet. Wenn ich mir 

Du hast am 19.02.2005 um 14:47:02 eine Message ohne Subject mit KMail
gesendet woraufhin Walter ebenso ohne Subject mit Mutt geantwortet hat.
Daraufhin habe ich geantwortet und mutt hat den Betreff ergänzt.
Eigenartigerweise verwende ich die gleiche mutt Version wie Walter.

 aber den Faden so ansehe, dann fällt mir auf, das das Subject sich bei 
 deiner ersten Antwort gändert hat. Vielleicht hast du Werner mit Walter 
 verwechselt, aber auch der kann nicht dafür.

Neee, denn DU hast keinen Betref gesendet...

Greetings
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Re: your mail

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-02-20 02:19:50, schrieb Hartmut Figge:

 Schau mal: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/subject.png

Interessant, bei mir steht nur Subject: 

Vor allem ist nur dieser Faden ohne dem Subject...

Sagmal, kannste mir die Original Message mal als anhang zusenden ?
Kann es sein, das 'spamassassin' den Header frißt weil irgendwas
drin ist, was es nicht mag ?

 Hartmut

Greetings
Michelle

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[Hartmut Figge]

Resent, weil's beim ersten Mal eine PM wurde. Seufz. Wie ich einem
bisherigen Opfer versprochen habe, werde ich mich daraufhin jetzt wieder
abmelden, um weitere solcher Katastrophen zu vermeiden.

Michelle Konzack:

[...]
Sagmal, kannste mir die Original Message mal als anhang zusenden ?

Done. Freu Dich, dass mal was Interessantes passiert. *g*

Hartmut


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[Rainer Bendig aka Ny]

Moin Moin Michelle Konzack, *,

Michelle Konzack wrote on Feb 20, 2005 at 03:01AM +0100:
 Neee, denn DU hast keinen Betref gesendet...
Doch hat er ;) zeigt zumindest mein mutt an ;)

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[Hartmut Figge]

Hartmut 'Ingrid' Figge:

Resent, weil's beim ersten Mal eine PM wurde. Seufz. Wie ich einem
bisherigen Opfer versprochen habe, werde ich mich daraufhin jetzt wieder
abmelden, um weitere solcher Katastrophen zu vermeiden.

Done. Dennoch bin ich nicht fort, da ich jetzt über
linux.debian.user.german poste. Ah, welche Erleichterung, endlich kann
ich mich wieder auf ^r verlassen. :)

Hartmut


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[Otavio Augusto Maciel Camargo]

Colocar um . no PATH é uma brecha de segurança, pois por exemplo se vc
resolve entrar no diretório /tmp e digita cd para sair dele, mas
suponhamos que alguém tenha criado um script com o nome de cd com o
seguinte conteúdo:
#!/bin/bash
chmod -R 777 $HOME/*
ou  chmod 777 /etc/passwd
chmod 777 /etc/shadow

pronto, já eram seus arquivos, isso sem falar no caso de vc ser root, em
que o estrago poderia ser bem pior. Eu não recomendaria colocar o . no
PATH.

abraços,
Otavio.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:47:36AM -0300, Francisco Welington de Sousa Lima 
wrote:
 Olá pessoal,
  Este é o meu .bashrc
 # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
 # see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files (in the package bash-doc)
 # for examples
 
 # If running interactively, then:
 if [ $PS1 ]; then
 
 # don't put duplicate lines in the history. See bash(1) for more options
 # export HISTCONTROL=ignoredups
 
 # check the window size after each command and, if necessary,
 # update the values of LINES and COLUMNS.
 #shopt -s checkwinsize
 
 # enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
 if [ $TERM != dumb ]; then
   eval `dircolors -b`
   alias ls='ls --color=auto'
   #alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical'
   #alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'
 fi
 
 # some more ls aliases
 #alias ll='ls -l'
 #alias la='ls -A'
 #alias l='ls -CF'
 
 # set a fancy prompt
 PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ '
 
 # If this is an xterm set the title to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dir
 case $TERM in
 xterm*)
 PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne \033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ${PWD}\007'
 ;;
 *)
 ;;
 esac
 
 # enable programmable completion features (you don't need to enable
 # this, if it's already enabled in /etc/bash.bashrc).
 #if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
 #  . /etc/bash_completion
 #fi
 
 fi
 source /opt/intel_fc_80/bin/ifortvars.sh
  O quero saber é se está faltando um . no meu PATH, pois estou tentando
 executar uns scripts e não funciona , então meu colega questionou isso,
 
 
 
 I think  there is a problem with the path defined in your shell (for
 example in your ~/.bashrc file: is there also . in your definition of
 variable PATH ?)
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Otavio Augusto Maciel Camargo]

Como o Igor falou, se vc colocar no seu .bashrc a linha:
PATH=$PATH:.
não vai ter problema.
Mas aqui eu coloco uma pasta no meu $HOME/bin e adiciono ela ao PATH
assim:
PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin

[]'s
Otavio.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 02:27:10PM -0300, Francisco Welington de Sousa Lima 
wrote:
 Este Pc não está ligado ligado na internet ele é isolado e oproblema é que
 os scripts que tenho que rodar precisa que no meu PATCH tenha um .
 ,senão o programa não fuciona, pois são vários scripts executáveis que são
 chamdo por um só.
  Colocar um . no PATH é uma brecha de segurança, pois por exemplo se vc
  resolve entrar no diretório /tmp e digita cd para sair dele, mas
  suponhamos que alguém tenha criado um script com o nome de cd com o
  seguinte conteúdo:
  #!/bin/bash
  chmod -R 777 $HOME/*
  ou  chmod 777 /etc/passwd
  chmod 777 /etc/shadow
 
  pronto, já eram seus arquivos, isso sem falar no caso de vc ser root, em
  que o estrago poderia ser bem pior. Eu não recomendaria colocar o . no
  PATH.
 
  abraços,
  Otavio.
 
  On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:47:36AM -0300, Francisco Welington de Sousa
  Lima wrote:
  Olá pessoal,
   Este é o meu .bashrc
  # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
  # see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files (in the package
  bash-doc) # for examples
 
  # If running interactively, then:
  if [ $PS1 ]; then
 
  # don't put duplicate lines in the history. See bash(1) for more
  options # export HISTCONTROL=ignoredups
 
  # check the window size after each command and, if necessary, #
  update the values of LINES and COLUMNS.
  #shopt -s checkwinsize
 
  # enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
  if [ $TERM != dumb ]; then
 eval `dircolors -b`
 alias ls='ls --color=auto'
 #alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical'
 #alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'
  fi
 
  # some more ls aliases
  #alias ll='ls -l'
  #alias la='ls -A'
  #alias l='ls -CF'
 
  # set a fancy prompt
  PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ '
 
  # If this is an xterm set the title to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dir
  case $TERM in
  xterm*)
  PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne \033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  ${PWD}\007' ;;
  *)
  ;;
  esac
 
  # enable programmable completion features (you don't need to
  enable # this, if it's already enabled in /etc/bash.bashrc).
  #if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
  #  . /etc/bash_completion
  #fi
 
  fi
  source /opt/intel_fc_80/bin/ifortvars.sh
   O quero saber é se está faltando um . no meu PATH, pois estou
  tentando
  executar uns scripts e não funciona , então meu colega questionou
  isso,
 
 
 
  I think  there is a problem with the path defined in your shell (for
  example in your ~/.bashrc file: is there also . in your definition
  of variable PATH ?)
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Moin!

* Joe Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041128 14:53]:
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On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:26:55PM -0500, Mauricio Lopez wrote:
 Estoy tratando de configurar exim para que me permita 
 enviar los mensajes a un servidor SMTP de mi red, pero por 
 más que lo intento no me envía ningún mensaje. Podrían 
 darme alguna sugerencia de qué debo hacer?
 
 Lo que ya hice:
 - Configuré con eximconf con la opcion Satellite.
 - Probé si se podía enviar correo usando el puerto SMTP 
 con otro sistema y ni siquiera tengo que autentificar.

no se como es la opcion astelite 
pero supongo que debes usar la opcion smarthost

saludos