Re: Iconos que no aparecen en KDE
El Thu, Mar 12, 1998 at 12:42:34AM +0100, Lucky dijo: He conseguido instalar el KDE 1.0 en Debian y es cojonudo, pero tengo el problema de que algunos iconos como el de ir para atras, adelante, inicio, etc. tipicos de los menus de las ventanas no me aparecen y salen unos graficos raros. Que puede pasar? Gracias Yo pregunté lo mismo hace unas semanas. Instala el paquete kdelibs0g-dev, ahí está los iconos que te faltan. -- Ubaldo Fernández Covelo|| || ||\ || || || \\ // || || ||\\|| || || \\ Castellón (España) || || \|| || //\\ user
Re: OT. Editor Lex y Yacc
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Jose Luis Trivino wrote: Hola, Perdon por el OT, pero es que tengo que editar un monton de codigo en lex y yacc y no encuentro ningun editor que le ponga sintaxhighlight y sangrado. He probado con el emacs pero solo he encontrado un modo para yacc/bison que funciona bastante mal. Hay algo que funcione mejor para editar lex y yacc? Bueno yo uso el vim que aparte de sintaxhighlight para un monton de lenguajes. Lo de el sangrado creo que no lo tiene pero yo lo uso para programar en C y es bastante util porque el cambio de color te avisa de que estas haciendo algo mal. Sobre todo el cierre de comentarios, parentesis, corchetes, llaves, o dobles comillas). Comprueba la construccion de constantes decimales, octales, hexadecimales, y supongo que más cosas. La lista de lenguajes de vim es la siguiente: 2html.vim ada.vim amiga.vim asm.vim asmh8300.vim asn.vim atlas.vim awk.vim bib.vim c.vim clean.vim cobol.vim colortest.vim cpp.vim csh.vim cterm.vim diff.vim dosbatch.vim dosini.vim dracula.vim eiffel.vim elmfilt.vim esqlc.vim expect.vim fortran.vim gp.vim help.vim hitest.vim html.vim idl.vim inform.vim java.vim javacc.vim javascript.vim lex.vim lisp.vim lss.vim mail.vim make.vim maple.vim matlab.vim mib.vim model.vim modula2.vim muttrc.vim nosyntax.vim objc.vim pascal.vim perl.vim pike.vim pod.vim postscr.vim pov.vim procmail.vim prolog.vim python.vim rc.vim sather.vim scripts.vim sh.vim slang.vim sm.vim sql.vim st.vim syntax.vim tcl.vim tex.vim tsalt.vim uil.vim verilog.vim vgrindefs.vim vhdl.vim vim.vim viminfo.vim vrml.vim xmath.vim yacc.vim zsh.vim Gracias, -- - Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez LAB. 2.3.4 Tlf.: (95) 2132863 http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html Usuario registrado de linux nº 53043 - La medida de programar es programar sin medida -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --- En caso de contestar a la lista mandame copia personal. /\ /\ Los mas importantes desarrolladores de Bases de datos \\W//están portando sus productos a Linux. Porque crees tu _|0 0|_ que será ?Yo creo que Linux es el futuro. +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher | | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +()()()--()()()--+
HP Laserjet 6L
Hola a todos ! Alguien tiene configurada correctamente esta impresora. Yo utilicé magicfilterconfig para configurar la impresora en mi debian HAMM, pero me ocurre que los textos planos los imprime perfectamente, pero si uso postcript, (la impresora es PCL5) bien sea mediante gv, Acrobat reader etc... me sale todo perfecto excepto la ultima página, ya que esta se empeña en no salir, y me veo obligado a pulsar el botón para que imprima la hoja y sale cortada, es decir aprox 3/4 de la hoja correctamente, pero el final de la misma no se imprime. Lo curioso es que si mando impromir 10 hojas salen 9 perfectas y la 10 mal, si mando 150 salen 149 perfectas y la 150 mal :-( ¿Alguna idea? -- Saludos :-) José Antonio Morillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Como configurar el MagicFilter?
No consigo instalar la impresora (HP690C) en el Debian, he conseguido imprimir alguna vez texto, pero no acaba de quedar bien pero no se como hacerlo con los graficos. Me podeis ayudar?
Re: Dudas /etc/resolv.conf
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 01:01:32PM +0100, ~ Miguel P.C. ~ wrote: Te servira para que no tenga que resolver dos veces el mismo nombre en la misma sesión, util si navegas durante periodos de más de 15 minutos accediendo varias veces al cada servidor. Un saludo Lo que cuento aqui es mi visión sobre el tema, en base a lo que conozco, si estoy equivocado corregidme!!!. Hace mucho tiempo leí - creo que era en el GARL - que instalar named en un ordenador que no fuera servidor de red era como matar moscas a cañonazos. Se agradecen más opiniones. Salu2, netman. :-) SaludoX __ / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ /la oportunidad de -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ dominar tu ordenador __ | | |Miguel Pérez Colino | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | http://www2.adi.uam.es/~migpc | |__| -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- From http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q216/6/41.asp: Computer Hangs After 49.7 Days After 49.7 days of continuous operation, your Windows 95-based computer may stop responding (hang). CAUSE: There is a problem with the timing algorithm in the Vtdapi.vxd file. Powered by Debian/GNU Linux 2.0 - Kernel 2.0.35 pgp6mQBQbayYf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: cambio de nombre de maquina
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 11:26:40PM +0100, Jon Noble wrote: Hola ¿hay algun modo elegante de cambiar el nombre de una maquina sin recorrer todos los ficheros? Gracias y un saludo, Hola. Modifica el fichero /etc/hostname. Este fichero tan sólo contiene una palabra: el nombre de la máquina. Hasta luego. --- Tinguaro Barreno Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cambio de nombre de maquina
Tinguaro Barreno Delgado dixit: Modifica el fichero /etc/hostname. Este fichero tan sólo contiene una palabra: el nombre de la máquina. ¿Qué más habría que cambiar al cambiar el nombre de la máquina? Es decir, yo lo he hecho, y la conexión funcionaba bien, smail *creo* que también, pero fetchmail no, no pude bajar el correo. Un saludo, Horacio.
Re: tty con caracteres extranos
El jueves 11 de marzo de 1999 a la(s) 23:45:11 +, Jose Rodriguez contaba: 2) Teclear la orden: echo '\033c' No lo he probado, pero si lo dicen las FAQ, por algo será. Tiene el mismo problema que el anterior. 3) Mi favorito: Teclear ^V^O (Control-V, Control-O). Este no viene en las FAQ. A mi me funciona siempre sin problemas. Pues a mí me sale esto: $ ^O (no pasa nada, pulso Enter y...) bash: : command not found También se puede reproducir el 2) pulsando ^V Esc c Enter. -- El servidor de NT se ha ido a tomar por c***. (Dakota) David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User no. 87069 http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX. Linux 2.2.3 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc
Um esforcinha de ajudo
Ola galeira, como vai??? Fico muito feliz com a recente distribuicao Debian (porque foi a tal distribuicao que consegui a resurretar a minha laptop antiga), a estou querendo saber se posso ajudar com um pouco traducao de manuais, FAQs, etc. Morei no Brasil alguns anos, e o ingles e minha lingua nativa, entao se alguem pode me informar acerca de como posso ajudar neste capacidade, eu ficaria contente. Um abraco, ~Brandon Gresham
Re: Wierd KDE Library error...?
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 09:45:10AM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: Just grab the source tar.gz from the tgz package tree (as in, not in the Debian section on the ftp site at all). THe KDE sources already include the debian directory by default; there's not patching necessary or anything. noah Thanks, I'm downloading as we speak. -- Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unexpected inconsistency!
I was using netscape (communicator4.5) and all of a sudden... the x-window hanged! Not even Ctrl-Alt-Backspace would work, so I had to resort to the reset button. Now, on reboot, the problem came when checking hdc6 (/home): /dev/hdc6: Unattached inode 70865 /dev/hdc6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY (i.e. without -a or -p options) ... then kept checking until... fsck failed - Please repair manually CONTROL-D will exit from this shell and continue system startup Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D for normal startup): ... so here I choose to press ^D ... EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended login: I tried to run e2fsck but it told me to run fsck without the -a or -p options (ok, now I realize I was trying to run `e2fsck -p'), so I ran fsck: fsck /dev/hdc6 Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97) e2fsck 1.10, 24-Apr-97 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 /dev/hdc6 is mounted. Do you really want to continue (y/n)? yes /dev/hdc6 contains a file system with errors, check forced. Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity Pass 4: Checking reference counts Unattached inode 70865 Connect to /lost+foundy? yes Inode 70865 ref count is 2, should be 1. Fixy? yes Pass 5: Checking group summary information Fix summary informationy? yes Block bitmap differences: -152626 -152627 -152628 -152629 -152630 -152631 -152632. FIXED Free blocks count wrong for group 18 (172, counted=179). FIXED Free blocks count wrong (234959, counted=234966). FIXED /dev/hdc6: * FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED * /dev/hdc6: 1518/76912 files (9.9% non-contiguous), 72127/307093 blocks I include the file /home/lost+found/#70865 which looks like html stuff, which I think should be from the site I was browsing (actually, just trying a ftp link). Deeply Concerned, Horacio.TITLEDirectory of /pub/linux/TITLE H2Current directory is /pub/linux/H2 PREA HREF=/pub/Up to higher level directory/ABR A HREF=/pub/linux/LDPIMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu LDP/A Mon Feb 15 16:45:00 1999 Symbolic link A HREF=/pub/linux/LINUX-LAB/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu LINUX-LAB//A Wed Nov 25 22:00:00 1998 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/Linux-parport/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu Linux-par.../A Fri Sep 4 00:00:00 1998 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/Netscape/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu Netscape//AFri Feb 5 18:04:00 1999 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/StarOffice/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu StarOffice//A Wed Mar 10 18:23:00 1999 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/WordPerfect-8/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu WordPerfe.../A Tue Jan 12 17:53:00 1999 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/debian/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu debian//A Wed Dec 2 13:20:00 1998 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/gzip-coredump/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu gzip-core.../A Thu Feb 11 17:44:00 1999 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/kernel-hackers-guide-0.6/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu kernel-ha.../A Tue Mar 24 00:00:00 1998 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/kernel/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu kernel//A Mon Feb 1 19:23:00 1999 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/linux-doc-project/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu linux-doc.../A Tue Mar 24 00:00:00 1998 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/linux.is.obsolete/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu linux.is/A Tue Mar 24 00:00:00 1998 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/loadlin/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu loadlin//A Tue Mar 24 00:00:00 1998 Directory A HREF=/pub/linux/sendmail/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu sendmail//ATue Mar 24 00:00:00 1998 Directory /PRE
How to run a script when disconnecting a dialup connection
I know that ip-up and ip-down are run by pppd when the link is brought up or down respectively. However, ip-down is run AFTER the link is brought down. What I'd like to do is run a script or two BEFORE the link actually goes down. Using Debian 2.0. Any hints? Thanks, Chris
Re: Problems with ide-scsi emulation
I recently compiled a 2.2.1 kernel, (as per the cd-writing howto) and I cannot get my ide cd writter (HP 8100i on /dev/hdc) to map to any scsi device. When attempting to mount it as almost any scsi device I recieve the following error: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sr0 as a block device First, make sure that you have a /dev/sr0, and second, upgraged to 2.2.2. 2.2.1 is broken in the scsi-ide department. Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quasi-mirror for local net
Hello, I'm looking for a way to share a set of downloaded .deb files across a network st. they would be accessible to automatic package download. Ideally, I'd just like to export /var/cache/apt but I don't think that will work.. Has anyone done this before? Matt -- /* Matt Sayler -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- atwork?astronomy:cs http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/mpsayler -- (512)471-7450 Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations? */
apt
Is there way to see what pacakges that happen to be upgraded
Re: fstab question
On 12-Mar-99 shaul wrote: I am using sudo for doing it. Perhaps the automounter can also help, but I have not tried it. I do not know if there is a way to do it with groups permitions and fstab. If there is I would also like to know. hope this help. Isn't it possible to set up fstab to that only users of a certain group can mount or unmount floppies or CDROM? I don't want just anyone to be able to do it, but I would like to be able to do it without being root. I did use sudo and then I took a different route. I made the 'mount' binary executable only by root.wheel. It works great. -- Andrew *happiness is a clean pond* [PGP5.0 KeyID 0x5EE61C37]
Re: Quasi-mirror for local net
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Matthew Sayler wrote: Hello, I'm looking for a way to share a set of downloaded .deb files across a network st. they would be accessible to automatic package download. Ideally, I'd just like to export /var/cache/apt but I don't think that will work.. Has anyone done this before? Matt Yeah, make your own ftp archive, put the packages in there and build your own Packages file for it and point the other machines to your archive. Actually exporting the /var/cache/apt/archive directory -does- work, just don't mix arches. You do need working nfs locking and I'm not sure how to set that up (someone email me if the know!) Jason
Re: Quasi-mirror for local net
I remember back in '99 when George Bonser wrote: Yeah, make your own ftp archive, put the packages in there and build your own Packages file for it and point the other machines to your archive. Would love to be able to, but wouldn't I have to formally mirror ftp.debian.org, then? I neglected to mention that I have only a few 100mb availbile to do this. The nice thing about being able to share /var/apt/cache (if possible as someone else suggested) is that either machine could update the cache with a good chance of only haveing to download it once. Matt -- /* Matt Sayler -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- atwork?astronomy:cs http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/mpsayler -- (512)471-7450 Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations? */
Re: I can't beleive this
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 10:07:08AM -0500, Michael Stenner wrote: Take the old physicist down the hall... he has this great new thing for numerical integration. It makes many things possible that just weren't before. Why should he give a *^% about IRQs, printcaps, I/O addresses, kernel modules, monitor hsync, or ipmasks? He shouldn't, but he probably shouldn't be installing an OS either. SNIP 2) so he doesn't get ripped off on crappy stuff? No. there are plenty of good sources (friends, consumer reports, etc.) for answering this UNAVOIDABLE question. But these sources arn't very good. I still have a Consumer Reports that says A PC is a Windows Machine. Most of his friends probably get their info. from PC mag. etc. so you are just talking about the blind leading the blind. The ONLY way to get a PC that anyone can use is to make sure the vendor has a vested interest in keeping you happy. That might mean a lease or maybe a monthly service contract. The remote access facilities of Linux make this potentially much less expensive. 3) because he has to? certainly not. Win95 (and to a lesser extent, RedHat) will take care of all of these things for him. Sure, there are tradeoffs, but it's a reasonable one for him. After all, he just wants to do some integrals. He doesn't really care if he has to reboot occasionally. The Windows system really doesn't work that well. It rarely guesses right on the video and sound cards. Even if it does guess right you have to insert a driver CD. The problem is that most driver CDs have drivers for just about everything the company makes so you still have to know which one is yours. The default video mode is 640x480 so to make it useable you still have to know about color depth, resolution, and refresh rates. Others have said that you cannot have this automation and power. I don't see why there cannot (physically) be two installation programs. Choose which one to run at the beginning. One autodetects things and makes assumptions about what you want, the other gives you fine-grained control. Ok, I've been thinking this over and it seems like the install tool should have some sort of a config file. Each step of the install would have an entry in the config file with the option to either use the default (which would be defined by anyone editing the config) or ask the user. The config file that ships with Debian would have reasonable defaults for everything (as defined by the developers) but OEMs could change it to suit their needs. The package install part should also be able to just use default settings for each package without the user having to sit their and hit enter every few minutes. I don't think most people know if it's a good idea to byte compile emacs so don't ask. Is anyone working on something like this? I really have a vested interest in a Debian Install that lets me put in a CD and Walk away without pressing any buttons at all and I'm sure OEMs would love it. -- Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new libc6 in potato conflicts with timezones
Subject says it all. -- David Natkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: INstallatuion
There are a few pictures of the installation screen in The Debian Linux user's Guide put out by Linux Press. Kent Craig T. Hancock wrote: Can someone tell me where I can find pictures of the Debian installation screen I am writing a installation manual for my comapny and I would like to use examples -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
[mark.panzer@excel.net: Problems with ide-scsi emulation]
I recently compiled a 2.2.1 kernel, (as per the cd-writing howto) and I cannot get my ide cd writter (HP 8100i on /dev/hdc) to map to any scsi device. When attempting to mount it as almost any scsi device I recieve the following error: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sr0 as a block device Can anyone lend a hand? Thank you for your time. How about /dev/scd0 ? Also, if you didn't already, you might want to disable the IDE-CD (I think that's right) support in the kernel. Finally, make sure the scsi support is compiled into the kernel rather than just as a module and make sure you have scsi-cdrom support compiled in. -- ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network help
G. Kapetanios wrote: Following your suggestion I pinged my gateway by IP rsther than name. The thing hang after printing a line. So maybe what you say about the card not working correctly is right. I was wondering: Win98 has no problem with recognizing and using the card. Why should Linux ? As this is not my computer tha card is there to stay. Additonally I would like to use the box as a server for math application to be accessed through telnet only . So I need to be sure that the card is the problem and if so remove Deibian Do you know any methods that can tell me fpor certain that the card is to blame ? Well, the gateway might not allow ping packets. You can try to 'traceroute -n' it and see if that works. Also you have not said anything about what is in you /etc/resolve.conf file. If the card works in WinBlows, then I see no reason why it would not work in Debian. Are you sure that the kernel is detecting the IO Port and IRQ correctly for the network card? -- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]begin:vcard n:Miller;Paul x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Talons adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:President note:The Spirit of the University of North Texas x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Paul Miller end:vcard
Re: network help
Subject: Re: network help Date: Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 04:30:30PM + In reply to:G. Kapetanios Quoting G. Kapetanios([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Following your suggestion I pinged my gateway by IP rsther than name. The thing hang after printing a line. So maybe what you say about the card not working correctly is right. I was wondering: Win98 has no problem with recognizing and using the card. Why should Linux ? As this is not my computer tha card is there to stay. Additonally I would like to use the box as a server for math application to be accessed through telnet only . So I need to be sure that the card is the problem and if so remove Deibian Do you know any methods that can tell me fpor certain that the card is to blame ? Thanks again for your help George George I assume that your trying to network a linux box to a Win95 box. If that is so I found that if I put in a gateway on my Linux box my network didn't work at all. I changed the network script to /sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} broadcast ${BROADCAST} netmask${NETMASK} /sbin/route add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMASK} # for 2/2/x Kernels then route -n VT1 root-Deb-Slink:~# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:40:05:3D:34:51 inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:646 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:657 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Collisions:0 Interrupt:9 Base address:0x6200 HTH Wayne -- APL is a write-only language. I can write programs in APL, but I can't read any of them. -- Roy Keir ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Magicfilter and Stylus Color 640
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, I purchase a new printer (above model) and I'm having some troubles to get correct settings for it. I tried to use the magicfilter options (stcolor 360 and 720dpi) but the 720dpi always fails to print. Trying uniprint (the driver for the 600 model, I guess) I was able to have higher resolution with a self-made filter script. Does somebody else have this printer (or similar)? What are yours feeling about quality, speed, economy under Linux? I haven't Windoze installed at home, so can't compare Linux and Windows printing. If some kind soul could give some data I would really appreciate. Thanks. []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 Several months ago, when I purchased a printer, I concluded that the Epson Stylus 640 and 740 (I may have the numbers confused) used a newer and incompatable protocol, hence wouldn't work with Ghostscript (at least with the builtin drivers). Apparently, you need at least the 840(?) model for backword compatability. If you want to be able to print postscript files, the only thing I can suggest is to setup a windows computer, as the windows version of Ghostscript can use the native windows driver... Please correct me though, if I am wrong... However I am just repeating what Epson tech support told me.
Re: Kernel 2.2.3
steven walsh wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Wayne Topa wrote: [snip] Is a lot faster to just apply the 2.2.2 2.2.3 patches. About 350 K for the 2 or 12M for 2.2.3 Kernel. Your choice. On the other hand, i like having the full tgz around Just In Casetm. If you have 2.2.1 and successfully add the 2.2.2 and 2.2.3 patches, then the end product *is* 2.2.3. Just tar it up yourself and name it as 2.2.3 tgz. -- Ed C.
mysql install error
folks, i have an apperantly broken installation of mysql server. this started under the old hamm version and now that i have upgraded to slink it is still there. in fact it was the only error reported during the upgrade. following are the error messages from the install. any help, tips, rtfms are appreciated especially if you can point me at the fm. i should point out that trying to remove the package results in basically the same problem, and yes i am running this as root. - error message from mysql install - (Reading database ... 48062 files and directories currently installed.) Removing mysql-server ... You must be root to start, stop or restart mysqld. dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 mysql privilege databases already installed. If you want to recreate all privilege tables, execute 'rm -i /var/lib/mysql/mysql/*.IS?' and run /usr/bin/mysql_install_db You can now start the new mysql server with: /usr/bin/safe_mysqld -l Plese report any problems with the /usr/bin/mysqlbug script You must be root to start, stop or restart mysqld. dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server E: Sub-process returned an error code --- tia, //daryl -- Daryl Williams Network Administrator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ShareWave, Inc. Phone: 916-939-9400 x3212 5175 Hillsdale Circle Fax: 916-939-9434 El Dorado Hills, CA. 95762Web: http://www.sharewave.com
kernel
hello everyone I am confused about something I saw that a kernel version known as 2.2.2 is the stable version but I thought that the 2.0.x where the stable versions and 2.1.x where the developmental 2.2.2 looks like it fits in the developmental category
Re: ergonomics question ($TERM colors)
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Aside from personal preference, does anyone know if a certain combination of colors is better to stare at than others? I can guess, from my own experience, that white text on a black background is better than black on white. Does anybody have any input on this? I would like to use the one that is best on my eyes since I stare at computer screens for ~12hrs a day. Amber on black used to be recommended in Olden Times. But I'm surprised you find white on black better than black on white. The white letters stand out true, but black on white is closer to normal reading, and ought to seem less obtrusive. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Shupp California State University, Northridge Graduate Student, Dept. of Anthropology http://www.csun.edu/~ms44278/index.htm
Re: ergonomics question ($TERM colors)
mike shupp wrote: Amber on black used to be recommended in Olden Times. But I'm surprised you find white on black better than black on white. The white letters stand out true, but black on white is closer to normal reading, and ought to seem less obtrusive. Normal paper doesn't glow in the same cancerous way as a CRT. -- see shy jo
mh and piping
I am new to piping commands and was hoping to get some help. I have mail in a MH folder which I wish to move to another MH folder according to if the mail was sent before a particular date. I can find the mail using pick pick +Folder1 -before 01 Feb 99 but I am not sure how to move the mail once I find it. Lance
Re: I can't beleive this
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 reply-to reply-to... ==BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE== From: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Stenner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:08:34 -0800 Reply-To: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 99 Professional (2.10.0382) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: I can't beleive this On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:37:06 -0500 (EST), Michael Stenner wrote: That's why truck and bus drivers get different licenses than regular folk. Different training. No point in learning how to drive a truck if you don't need to haul stuff. If you don't need to maintain a network, why learn about it. No dispute there. Seeing as I have a license to drive damn near everything legal on the road (M1, C, A class in Cali) I know about different training. What I am talking about are the people who hop behind the wheel expecting the car to just go w/o knowing what the accelerator is, what the brake is, what the sterring wheel does, etc. IE, people who sit down at a computer and expect to be able to operate it with no training at all. The more we go back and forth, the more I suspect we're talking about different things. We are. As I said, I have no respect for people who are unwilling to acknowledge they need training to operate this tool. I'm saying its ok for people to WANT an OS which does administrative tasks for you. You're complaining about people who EXPECT an OS to do administrative tasks for you (and who bitch a lot when they don't get something). We're describing two different sets of people. Uhm, are we? I'm talking about people who complain about two mouse buttons and not knowing how to drag icons and calling that too hard. bugs me to no end also, but in this case, there's nothing wrong with WANTING an easy OS. Linux *IS* an easy OS. I always buck this, so lemme explain. Windows (and Mac) are easy to learn, not easy to use. Linux, OTOH, is easy to use and, IMHO, easy to learn as well. The only reason Windows/Mac are easy to learn is because they are somewhat popular. But once you've learned them, doing any complex task is tedious, slow and a PITA to even think about. That isn't easy to use, that is hard to use. So, to me, Linux *IS* an easy OS, very easy. that's pretty extreme. What's WRONG with autodetecting hardware and installing drivers? And if I don't want it to be autodetected and installed? - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- ===END FORWARDED MESSAGE=== - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNunYSnpf7K2LbpnFEQIDrACgu7VMosMbNnWFPcVib4KOTrQ6ERUAoJ2U 3MieW/3vLyWhtc6qkyD0pKmp =kEOc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kernel
The first number is the major version number the second the minor version number the third the patch level number. An even numbered kernel such as 2.2.x is a stable version. An odd number such as 2.1.x is a development release. The patch level numbers start at 1 and are added with each consecutive patch. Hope that helps, Kent Craig T. Hancock wrote: hello everyone I am confused about something I saw that a kernel version known as 2.2.2 is the stable version but I thought that the 2.0.x where the stable versions and 2.1.x where the developmental 2.2.2 looks like it fits in the developmental category -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
DHCP
My DCHP client daemon seems to spit out a crap dhcpcd-eth0.pid file on every reboot, which usually means my jack gets locked out of the network b/c of a bad IP addy. I can delete the file and run the client again and everything runs fine, but the init scripts don't seem to work. Is there something I'm missing here? Thanks.
Re: ergonomics question ($TERM colors)
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 06:36:13PM -0800, mike shupp wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Aside from personal preference, does anyone know if a certain combination of colors is better to stare at than others? I can guess, from my own experience, that white text on a black background is better than black on white. Does anybody have any input on this? I would like to use the one that is best on my eyes since I stare at computer screens for ~12hrs a day. Amber on black used to be recommended in Olden Times. But I'm surprised you find white on black better than black on white. The white letters stand out true, but black on white is closer to normal reading, and ought to seem less obtrusive. There is a lot literature out there which talks about how different reading on a computer screen is than reading on paper. Amoung other things, computer screen text is projected light, not reflected light, which causes different strains. Very few people I've spoken to prefer black on white over white on black. -Seth -- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion
Day planners?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, now that I have X up and running on my laptop I am now looking for decent day planner software. So far all of the offerings I have come across, plan, ical, xcal, fall short. Plan looks quite good, except on my 640x480 display some of the windows are too large to fit on the screen. Xcal, well, we won't go there. Ical also looks quite nice, however, again, some of its screens are too big for my screen. Right now, the most usable is ical. What I am looking for is something that is comparable to Sidekick's day planner function on Windows. A todo list with priorities, an hourly day planner where functions can be marked as checked off, a *VERY* flexible recurring set which allows for items to be extended, etc. X or console, either way is fine by me. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNundgnpf7K2LbpnFEQKMNQCgwQ4077c5PQwK9+17TmQlGx+mijQAn0k+ t60ozV18CoGweqwz9Vs9ImxF =Z757 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: new libc6 in potato conflicts with timezones
Yeah, it looks like timezones didn't get updated with the rest of the libc6 stuff, and dselect wants to remove the old one. On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, David Natkins wrote: Subject says it all. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: fstab question
On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 04:33:04AM -, Pollywog wrote: Is there a way for me to be able to mount both /a and /floppy on the KDE desktop (no, not at the same time)? It seems I will have to mount /a from the command line only, when I need to mount a dos floppy (not often). Do you really need to have separate mount points according to the filesystem? You can set the filesystem type to auto and let the kernel work out what it is. That's what I do for floppies, although I don't use KDE, so I don't know exactly what you want. -- Matt Folwell, P2 Whewell's Court, Trinity College, Cambridge. CB2 1TQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hdparm
Evening all. I've been trying to get hdparm to work, but it seems ( I can not verify) unsuccessfully. I got Scorpio:/home/ryn# hdparm -i /dev/hda /dev/hda: Model=WDC AC11000H, FwRev=12.07H12, SerialNo=WD-WT364 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR5Mbs FmtGapReq } RawCHS=2046/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=22 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=128kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off DblWordIO=no, maxPIO=2(fast), DMA=yes, maxDMA=0(slow) CurCHS=2046/16/63, CurSects=2062368, LBA=yes, LBAsects=2062368 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 *mword2 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:160,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 an IDE drive (one of my 3), and -i seems to work fine. However, when I try to do Scorpio:/home/ryn# hdparm -t /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 32 MB in 7.46 seconds = 4.29 MB/sec HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Invalid argument I get that HDIO_DRIVE error message. But it at least read the disk once. Same error occurs when trying to Scorpio:/home/ryn# hdparm -S 120 /dev/hda /dev/hda: setting standby to 120 (10 minutes) HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Invalid argument I guess my question is: What does that error mean, and is hdparm really setting the sleep time, or does it quit with error message? I guess I'd find out soon enough, but I want to know for sure. TIA, Andrew --- Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN 12402354 http://members.tripod.com/AnSIv --Little things for Linux.
Memory Help
Why will linux only recognize half of my 128 meg of ram? It reads my swap space fine but when I look in dmesg It says it only found 64 megs RAM. Thanks in advance everyone! Jesse (aka Dade)
Re: ergonomics question ($TERM colors)
Seth M. Landsman writes; Very few people I've spoken to prefer black on white over white on black. I do. I have lousy vision and I find that black on white lets me cram more stuff on the screen and still read it. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: Kernel 2.2.3
Yes, there are Linux 2.2x kernels in .deb format at http://netgod.net/ Follow their 2.2.3 button in the upper left hand corner of their home page. Version 2.2.3 is the one you, now, immediately get to but the older 2.2.x versions are in the archives. At 3/10/99 08:20 PM , you wrote: When i updated slink from kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.1 i got a kernel source package from the debian ftp site. It was a debian package. I read that there where no patches applied to the kernel source for use with debian. I am wondering since i dont see a deb package for 2.2.2 or 2.2.3 if i can grab the 2.2.3 kernel from ftp.kernel.org and not have any problems??? Also, has anyone else packaged these kernels in a deb?? Thanks for any input Faton Useni
Re: Magicfilter and Stylus Color 640
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 01:59:15PM -0300, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: I purchase a new printer (above model) and I'm having some troubles to get correct settings for it. I tried to use the magicfilter options (stcolor 360 and 720dpi) but the 720dpi always fails to print. You might want to use the Aladin Ghostscript (ie the version in non-free). That version is newer and may do a better job supporting newer Epson printers (ie. 440, 640, 740, 850). BTW I think all/most new support for the Epsons is going into the Uniprint driver. Does somebody else have this printer (or similar)? What are yours feeling about quality, speed, economy under Linux? I have one of the 800 series Epson printers and a Canon bjc-600. The Canon prints really well with the Uniprint drivers (as good or better than in Windows). The Epson I've only tried with the stylus drivers and not at all in Windows but the quailty looks better than my Canon. -- Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot disk swiped, how to make one?
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, David B. Teague wrote: Folks: I installed Slink on my system but had not installed LILO to make it bootable directly from the HD. Someone swiped the boot disk. Question: Is it possible, given the contents of the /etc/fstab file and a knowledge of where the kernel is located (/boot/vmlinuz-2.036) to run LILO from a boot disk -- say Tom's Unix on a floppy and make the floppy boot the kernel on the hard disk? I believe this is not possible with lilo, because it actually builds a map of the sectors on disk that the kernel lives in. Thus if one defrags and doesn't run lilo afterwards, one's disk becomes non-booting. If you have any sort of rescue disk, with linux on it, you can tell lilo something like vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 and then run lilo once your system is up. Grub, the Grand Unified Boot Loader, actually understands ext2 (altho' when I tried it it didn't do symlinks, and I like to have vmlinuz be a symlink). So if you are using Grub, these problems don't arise. Grub should eventually replace lilo. --Jimhttp://as220.org/jb [Advertisement] Y2K: Bringing The Past Into The Future Today
Re: Memory Help
Jesse Lee wrote: Why will linux only recognize half of my 128 meg of ram? It reads my swap space fine but when I look in dmesg It says it only found 64 megs RAM. you need to put the line: append=mem=128M in your lilo.conf and rerun lilo -- Debian_GNU/_ Mark Wagnon -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
Re: Memory Help
You can add, append=mem=128m To your lilo.conf file and rerun lilo. If I remember right you can upgrade to the 2.2.x kernel and the memory will be recognized also. Hope that helps, Kent Jesse Lee wrote: Why will linux only recognize half of my 128 meg of ram? It reads my swap space fine but when I look in dmesg It says it only found 64 megs RAM. Thanks in advance everyone! Jesse (aka Dade)
web link checker
I'm in need of a program that can parse a bunch of linked web documents and look for any broken links. Does anyone know if such a thing exists? TIA, Chris
Re: PLEASE READ! IMPORTANT! ALL THE MEMBERS! PLEASE READ!
Filtering gets the email messages from the listserver into the correct separate email box. However it does nothing for the overwhelming volumn problem which threading would considerably help. Both web based discussion managers news reader programs handle treading well. For a group of this volume you would need a good discussion server at least one public server that I know of just isn't up to the job. It's to busy for good service. I wonder why this listserver group hasn't long ago gone to a news/news server format for the much better accessibility of the threaded news readers. It doesn't have to be part of the public news system with it's well known loss of messages, advertisements, harvesting of email addresses for future spam. If Debian can set up run the fancy listserver as they have they could just as well instead run a private or semi-private news server that only has Debian news/discussion on it. There are a reasonable number of such already on the net. The existing searchable email archive could be just as good or better as a news archive. At 3/10/99 08:56 AM , you wrote: From: Nuno Donato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for reading my message. I am a member of the Debian Linux Mailing List(just like you) and I know how boring is to receive every day hundreds of e-mails, and don't have time to read it all. So now I have found a much easier way. Click on the link on the bottom of my email to go directly to my page: Unofficial Debian Linux Message Board Yes that's it! A message board it's much easier to use and you don't have hundred of e-mails in you Inbox every day. So I will wait you all there. See ya! http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb392374 At 3/10/99 01:58 PM , you wrote: On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:34:38 -0500 (EST), Christopher J. Morrone wrote: Agreed. I think that he just needs an introduction into the wonderful world of maill filtering. procmail is our friend. procmail, exim filters, or do what I do, use a Windows client that has filtering built in. :)
Re: web link checker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in need of a program that can parse a bunch of linked web documents and look for any broken links. Does anyone know if such a thing exists? TIA, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null check here: http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/web/
Using current progs: unstable debs v tarballs
Hi Everyone: I will be receiving my slink CDs in the next week or so. I've noticed a few posts about the more adventurous moving to potato. I want to run the latest version of windowmaker, and there is a package in potato. I'm a little nervous about mixing portions of potato in with slink because I really don't want to break anything, and with potatop still in the unstable state... Can the source packages be rebuilt to run on an older version? Can I ftp all the wmaker-related source debs and recompile them to get them to work with slink? If not, I am totally willing (and able) to compile from the source tarballs, but I tried that a couple months ago and was unsuccessful. I'm not sure what the problem was, but I think it had something to do with, wmaker being installed (and removed) on my computer during installation. Even though I removed it, the WindowMaker directory was still present under /etc/X11. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, can leftover links/directories affect a program compiled and installed from the sources? When I compile from source, I always put the binaries, etc. under /usr/local. Anyway, when I compiled WindowMaker back then, it went smoothly without any problems. I installed it, but when I tried to get X to start with it as the window manager, X kept bailing. Maybe I need to try again and see what happens this time around, but if anyone happens to be using windowMaker, and compiled/installed it themselves, can you post how you did it? TIA -- Debian_GNU/_ Mark Wagnon -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
Re: Static IP / Hostname
You need to ask your ISP to put you in their DNS. When someone tries to contact a host.domain.name, their computer sends a request to their ISP's DNS server. That if that DNS knows the IP that goes with that name then it sends the IP back to the person/program that requested it. If not, it refers the request upstream and this continues until a DNS server is found that either knows the address or knows of a specific DNS server that has that information. In your case that would be your ISP's DNS server. Currently your ISP probably has all of it's dial up line assigned to names like dial-up-1.portmaster1.yourisp.com or something similar. You can see what it is currently set at by doing a nslookup of your.ip.address but you should do that from some other machine. -- Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C Program confused me
Check out sci.math the sci.math FAQ (lost the url-sorry) - the faq has extensive descriptions of several different algorithms for calculating pi. At 06:47 PM 3/12/99 +0800, Bal K. Paudyal wrote: Hello Friends, I encountered following program in one of the Linux Howtos. This calculates the value of pai. But how does it do this? I am not asking the programming details, but on what theory the formula is based on. Can anybody help? Is there any better place to look for help? --- #include stdlib.h; #include stdio.h; main(int argc, char **argv) { register double width, sum; register int intervals, i; /* get the number of intervals */ intervals = atoi(argv[1]); width = 1.0 / intervals; /* do the computation */ sum = 0; for (i=0; iintervals; ++i) { register double x = (i + 0.5) * width; sum += 4.0 / (1.0 + x * x); } sum *= width; printf(Estimation of pi is %f\n, sum); return(0); } -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Boot disk swiped, how to make one?
On Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 12:01:10AM -0500, Jim Bray wrote: Grub, the Grand Unified Boot Loader, actually understands ext2 (altho' when I tried it it didn't do symlinks, and I like to have vmlinuz be a symlink). So if you are using Grub, these problems don't arise. Grub should eventually replace lilo. i believe grub 0.5.9x now supports symlinks. rcy
debian-user-list archive in tar.gz format???
Hi, Apart from the searchable archives in the web,has anyone made a tar.gz archive of this list? I think somebody with time and resources should seriously consider doing this,since this list is an invaluable resource. ramOO --- Ramakrishnan M #211 ,Cauvery hostel, Indian Institute of Technology,Madras, Chennai-600 036, INDIA Software is like sex;It's better when it's free -Linus Torvalds ---
Re: Problems with .tar file
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 03:16:49PM -0330, Greg Starkes wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it should be qt-1_42.tar (or qt-1.42.tar), not qt-1_42_tar.tar. Try renaming it ^^ ^ ^ If this doesn't work, may be it's a .tar.gz, rename it to qt-1.42.tar.gz, and try: Was this downloaded on a windows platform? I have seen *.tar.gz get renamed to *_tar.tar quite a bit. Rename the file as mentionned above. Netscape 4.0 and 4.5 always do it to me here. It changes all dots except the last to underscores, then somehow makes .tar.gz _tar.tar. Argh. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: auto sorting mail clients
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 12:02:11PM +0100, Nicolas PROCHAZKA wrote: Try procmail, it's very good stuff, and it's independant of your email client , an example of procmailrc : Or exim's .forward, if you're running it. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: Slink CDs available - Australia
On 11-Mar-1999, Richard Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently offering CDs 1,2 and 5 (all the binary CDs -- source will come along soon). Given the prices most people in Australia are forced to pay for net access it will almost certainly be a lot cheaper to buy the CDs than download. So Tyson, do you have the official SLINK release available yet? Can we pick it up in Fitzroy (Melbourne/Victoria) while having a quiet drink? There is no such thing as official slink images just yet, but I am just creating full release CDs now. I expect to be burning CDs for shipping tomorrow. The pickup option at the Binary Bar is not presently available as the Binary Bar has changed owners. I may be able to arrange something with the new owners in future, but I haven't had time yet. It's almost always next day shipping for people in Melbourne anyway. You can place a preorder now at http://tyse.net/linux-cds/ and it will probably be shipped by Monday. -- The quantum sort: while (!sorted) { do_nothing(); } Tyson Dowd [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tyse.net/
Re: Memory Help
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Jesse Lee wrote: Why will linux only recognize half of my 128 meg of ram? It reads my swap space fine but when I look in dmesg It says it only found 64 megs RAM. Thanks in advance everyone! Hi, If you're still running kernel 2.0.x then you need to add this to lilo.conf append=mem=128M Alternatively, get yourself a shiny new 2.2.3 kernel ;) Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ Debian GNU/Hurd - love at first byte
Re: Kernel 2.2.3
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: [snip] If you have 2.2.1 and successfully add the 2.2.2 and 2.2.3 patches, then the end product *is* 2.2.3. Just tar it up yourself and name it as 2.2.3 tgz. Details, details. :) See you on the flip side - Steve Walsh (EfNet:#Babylon5:KnaraKat) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to run a script when disconnecting a dialup connection
-Chris R. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know that ip-up and ip-down are run by pppd when the link is brought up or down respectively. However, ip-down is run AFTER the link is brought down. What I'd like to do is run a script or two BEFORE the link actually goes down. Make a script that does what you want, and then takes down the links. Example: #!/bin/sh script1 script2 poff # (or whatever way you use [killall pppd]) -- The only way tcsh rocks is when the rocks are attached to its feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book on Xwindow
-Shawn Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Does anyone know a good book for Xwindow? I looked up O'reilly and they seems to have two of them. One for MIT version and one for Motif. I have no idea which one I should get so if anyone can recommend a book I would appreciate it. And also, if you could clarify about that MIT and Motif situation. Thanks. The X Window System User's Guide would indeed be a good idea. It would probably be best to get the Standard Edition (MIT). Motif is a commercial toolkit (library) for X11 programming. If you use Debian then you don't have Motif unless you bought it. -- The only way tcsh rocks is when the rocks are attached to its feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
junkbuster acting up
Greetings all Running 2.2.3 and potato I have suddenly started having problems with junkbuster, it runs from inet.d or seems to accept it doesnt work, i restored config files from a recent backup in case i had made i change in one of its config files causing the problem but no go. I now also get the following error when trying to fire it up again manually etc/init.d/junkbuster start which give me this # shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: Permission denied i was logged on as root ?? Now get this when invoked as junkbuster /etc/junkbuster/config It works fine no problemo :). So im assuming its something i have changed alsewhere thats causing the problem possibly ??, or a package problem somewhere. Hmm just tried a few things and noticed that the above error message also appears when i try to use su root - normal user, when allready logged in as root, but not the other way around, huh. :( eeek ;0) any help appreciated cheers
Re: apt
Craig T. Hancock wrote: Is there way to see what pacakges that happen to be upgraded $ apt-get -s dist-upgrade HTH, -Remco
Re: ergonomics question ($TERM colors)
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Joey Hess wrote: mike shupp wrote: Amber on black used to be recommended in Olden Times. But I'm surprised you find white on black better than black on white. The white letters stand out true, but black on white is closer to normal reading, and ought to seem less obtrusive. Normal paper doesn't glow in the same cancerous way as a CRT. I'm a bit skeptical about the likelihood of getting cancer from CRT screens in general and from modern energy-saving low-emission CRTs in particular. Do you regard these things as more deadly than TV sets, which people have been using for half a century-- without notable (radiative) effect? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Shupp California State University, Northridge Graduate Student, Dept. of Anthropology http://www.csun.edu/~ms44278/index.htm
Re: Memory Help
From the Linux Hardware Compatability HOWTO v98.4, 10 November 1988 ( Patrick Reijen [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ...When you add more than 64 Mb of memory you have to add the follwing line to your LILO configuration file: append=mem=number of MbM So when you have 96 Mb of memory this should bceome append=mem=96M Don't type a number higher than the number of Mb you really have. This can present unpredictable crashes. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Shupp California State University, Northridge Graduate Student, Dept. of Anthropology http://www.csun.edu/~ms44278/index.htm
putting a WWW site and CGI-BIN on a CDROM?!
Apologies for cross-posting to debian-user and debian-ISP but I think you're the people I need. I run a site under Apache-SSL very happily under Debian but someone wants me to run a new site for him which would have about 450 articles (journal articles), about 4m words. He and I would want to make it searchable with a few structured text fields (the usual bibliographic ones: authors, journal, issue date, volume, issue, pages, abstract, text). I guess year and issue date would want to be searchable with gt, ge, lt, le etc. There'd be a few, a very few, graphics in the text. All that's fine for the WWW site but he rightly wants to be able to put it on a CDROM too and I agree but don't want to do any unnecessary duplication of effort. I remember there are ways of putting the CGI/perl or some other searchability, together with all the data onto a CDROM so that I could do the WWW version and transfer it easily to CDROM. Horrid bit is that the result would have to be readable from Windoze and probably from Macs as well to be commercially viable. Anyone been down this route? Any advice/thoughts? TIA, Chris PSYCTC: Psychotherapy, Psychology, Psychiatry, Counselling and Therapeutic Communities; practice, research, teaching and consultancy. Chris Evans Jo-anne Carlyle http://psyctc.org/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I can't beleive this
I have no respect for those people. Yes, a computer is a tool. But lets drop in a few other examples. Well linux is a tool for me. I don't care a monkey about the internal workings of the kernel. Its only important to me that it works. Yes I have had to compile a kernel image to get all of my hardware working. I would have preferred not to do this. Not everyone is interested in fiddling around with somewhat droll configuration tasks. There are much more interesting things to do with a computer. Cheers
Re: Statistics/graphing programs for scientists?
I'm just about to get my doctorate in neuroscience, and I have have several large databases essential for my dissertation. For statistical analysis, I use Statistica for windows, and for graphing my data, I use SigmaPlot for windows. A call to all scientists out there - are there any native X-based programs that are as good as these? Although these programs are excellent, I would rather not trust my dissertation to the OS I have come to call Sir Crash-a-lot... My only other option is to use a windows emulator (like WINE)... I don't believe there is anything in the same league as statistica. If you can tolerate a time warp of about 25 years I hear that a GNU equivalent of SPSS is been written. Ask some of the older staff members what they think of SPSS. Some of the modern methods of statistical analysis may not be supported. No free unix program is going to provide the sort of on-line help, user interface or range of analysis methods that comes with statistica. Unix applications like octave are not going to provide any better statistical analysis than a spreadsheet. I would be very wary of running statistica under WINE. Perhaps if you are running WIN98/95, you should consider stepping up to WINNT (actually the thought of running statistica on win95/98 is scarey). A carefully installed WINNT on a standalone non-networked machine that is rebooted every 24 hours or so is pretty reliable. Perhaps you should check what other platforms are supported by Statistica. There may be a SCO Unix version available. SCO is free for educational purposes. Hopefully you are making a point of backing up all of your data and documents on a regular basis. Hardware can fail also. Regards
Re: Gnome 1.0 debs?
Couldn't .debs that aren't 100% at least go into potato? That's what unstable is for isn't it ? Why is there this pent up frustration for always having the absolute latest versions of software? I would have thought it may be a good idea to wait a few weeks to see if others report that there major goofs. Quality is very very important. We do want debian to be more reliable than windows 98. Unstable does not means completely untested, otherwise it would be a rather worthless minefield. If you really are so keen you could just download the source code and compile it. This is not a difficult option and by identifying any bugs you would be helping the debian community. I'll just wait, hoping that the debian people do a good job. A few weeks or so is not a long period of time. The people doing this work are not getting paid, so they probablely only have a limited time each day to do this work. Regards
Re: Gnome 1.0 debs?
The staging area is not a secret, it is publically available, too, for developers and testers. Check the dtk-gnome mailling list archiv if you are interested (or devel-announce). And by testing this you make a significant worthwhile contribution to the Debian project. Whoops ... gnome 1.0.2 is just released. Here we go again.
Re: ergonomics question ($TERM colors)
JH == John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JH Seth M. Landsman writes; Very few people I've spoken to prefer black on white over white on black. JH I do. I have lousy vision and I find that black on white lets me JH cram more stuff on the screen and still read it. I also do. In Germany, there is hardly an area which isn't covered by law. So there is also a law for protection of computer workers. Among other things (noise, strength of light, pauses, chair and table requirements) it also mentions monitors. The required display is positiv, e.g. dark letters on bright background. There are some reasons for it. Similar to normal paper, bright environment - bright screen - eyes don't have to readapt, white letters on black get visibly contracted etc. Note that I don't speak of #00 white. I use whitesmoke as background and black as forground. Ciao, Martin
Re: junkbuster acting up
JL == John Leget [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JL I now also get the following error when trying to fire it up again JL manually etc/init.d/junkbuster start which give me this JL # shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot JL access parent directories: Permission denied This message shouldn't prevent junkbuster from starting. Check ps ax | grep junkbuster JL Hmm just tried a few things and noticed that the above error message JL also appears when i try to use su root - normal user, when allready JL logged in as root, but not the other way around, huh. :( This error happens because you are in root's homedir. and this directory is mode 750, so only root can enter it. If you su to another user, this user can't determine the current directory (he doesn't have permission to read the inode). This also happens with junkbuster, as the init scripts does a su to nobody. Ciao, Martin
Re: Where to now?
w == wlovett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: w I installed Debian, and it dropped me into deselect. Deselect what? w Is the question? Are the packages additional software that needs to w be down loaded or is it talking about software included within the w distribution. These are the packages which form the Debian distribution. w I installed from floppies; I could not get the loadlin program to w work for DOS. Are the floppies that the deselect program is w talking about the same installation floppies. I assume you used 8 or such floppies to install the base system. You just installed the very base. You can't do vey much yet. Therefore you need to install other packages. This is what dselect is for. The current stable version consists of 4 CDs (2 binary and 2 source). Even if you just install a subset of the 2 binary CDs, you don't want to do it with floppies. Either get Debian CDs ( http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors ), or install using ftp (that is connect via Modem/ISDN to the internet and download the packages using dselect). Ciao, Martin
Re: fstab question
Hi, When I use the 'auto' filesystem type in fstab, my vfat floppies are detected as umsdos and I lose the long filenames. Is there a way around this? Andy Holmes West Sussex, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] The path of my life is strewn with cow pats from the devil's own satanic herd!, Edmund Blackadder
lilo.conf problems
I am having problems configuring lilo to dual boot to debian and win98. I have two hard drives: Primary /dev/hda, one partition, /dev/hda1 = win98 boot FAT32 3.2Gb Secondary /dev/hdb, two partitions, /dev/hdb1 = linux boot 4.0Gb Am I having problems because I didn't make root fit in the first 1024 sectors? I can use lilo to boot to linux on /dev/hdb1, but lilo won't boot to dos. Dos will boot with a dos floppy though, and sys C: fixes the messed up DOS MBR, erasing lilo and restoring /dev/hda1 MBR lilo -v produces: LILO version 20, Copyright 1992-1997 Werner Almesberger Reading boot sector from /dev/hda1 Merging with /boot/boot.b Mapping message file /boot/message.boot Boot image: /vmlinuz Added linux * Boot other: /dev/hda1, on /dev/hda, loader /boot/chain.b Added dos /boot/boot.0301 exists - no backup copy made. Writing boot sector. Here is lilo.conf boot = /dev/hda1 message = /boot/message.boot append=mem=128M default = linux vga = normal# normal 80x25 text vga mode delay = 20 timeout = 100 prompt ## Image section for Linux image = /vmlinuz # image file label = linux # boot prompt label root = /dev/hdb1 # linux root mount # install = /boot/boot.0301 # map = /boot/map # linux boot map read-only # mount read-only to run fsck ## Image section for dos other = /dev/hda1 # other image name label = dos loader = /boot/chain.b# chain loader on primary drive table = /dev/hda# dos partitional table -- __ Nicholas W Kopan Win9x and Office97 Corporate Trainer, Online Services Java-based Inventory System Development, Online Data Systems Computer Engineering Undergraduate, Lehigh University Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Icq: 4221344 Home Page and Resume: http://www.lehigh.edu/~nwk2/
I've been cracked! (hamm, 2.0.35)
Somebody (through jhb60.jaring.my) wandered into my system, set up a user account for themselves and set up a couple of programs, eggdrop and smurf. I've not been using encrypted passwords, I understand that there are ways to derive the salt that the passwd file uses? Anyway, this person hid a few files in some interesting places and even replaced my syslogd. Now, when I say hid a few files, there are files that simply don't show up by ls. You can manipulate them but you can't see them unless you ls the entire path. For example, $ ls /usr/lib/fms returns /usr/lib/fms but $ cd /usr/lib;ls fms returns nothing. I have no idea how many files or directories might be hidden this way, nor how I can find out. I've obviously changed passwords and disabled everything foreign that I can find, any suggestions as to what I should be doing about this? Any help appreciated. -Don Erickson -- .sig lite
Re: web link checker
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm in need of a program that can parse a bunch of linked web documents and look for any broken links. Does anyone know if such a thing exists? Linbot at http://starship.skyport.net/crew/marduk/linbot/ works very well... -- .oO,.. oneiros ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ..,Oo. ... and the `fortune -s` for this e-mail is ... No, that's wrong too. Now there's a race condition between the rm and the mv. Hmm, I need more coffee. -- Guy Maor on Debian Bug#25228
Re: web link checker
On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, oneiros wrote: Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm in need of a program that can parse a bunch of linked web documents and look for any broken links. Does anyone know if such a thing exists? Linbot at http://starship.skyport.net/crew/marduk/linbot/ Why not just install the debianized version? I don't know about stable, but it is in unstable. Cheers. -- Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.telmer.com
Re: true type fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay. I've got xfstt, I've got my .ttf fonts from the Windows dir. Now what? Do I just move them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype and I'm done? No, you better make a soft link if you have access to your dos partition from linux. Here it looks like this: $ ls -l /usr/share/fonts/truetype/winfonts lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Sep 29 14:15 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/winfonts - /dos/c/windows/fonts Then set up XF86Config as told in another mail here. -- ____ Frank Barknecht __ __ trip\ \ / /wire __ / __// __ /__/ __// // __ \ \/ / __ \\ ___\ / / / / / / / // // /\ \\ ___\\ \ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_//_// / \ \\_\\_\ /_/\_\
Re: web link checker
Thus spake Colin Telmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Why not just install the debianized version? I don't know about stable, but it is in unstable. Cheers. Sure, by all means. When I originally set linbot up over here it wasn't available in a debianised form. So, in addition to the tarball, you can snag a deb at: http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/web/linbot.html or, a slightly less newer version at (the unstable version is perfectly fine) http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/web/linbot.html -- .oO,.. oneiros ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ..,Oo. ... and the `fortune -s` for this e-mail is ... 'Ooohh.. FreeBSD is faster over loopback, when compared to Linux over the wire. Film at 11.' -- Linus Torvalds
Re: I've been cracked! (hamm, 2.0.35)
In foo.debian-user, you wrote: Somebody (through jhb60.jaring.my) wandered into my system, set up a user account for themselves and set up a couple of programs, eggdrop and smurf. I've not been using encrypted passwords, I understand that there are ways to derive the salt that the passwd file uses? The salt is simply the first to characters of the password hash. Assuming you don't use shadow passwords, look in /etc/password at a line: myusername:eNdOfjsu/dsk: The eN is the salt, and it should be different for each password entry. Anyway, this person hid a few files in some interesting places and even replaced my syslogd. Now, when I say hid a few files, there are files that simply don't show up by ls. You can manipulate them but you can't see them unless you ls the entire path. For example, $ ls /usr/lib/fms returns /usr/lib/fms but $ cd /usr/lib;ls fms returns nothing. I have no idea how many files or directories might be hidden this way, nor how I can find out. I've obviously changed passwords and disabled everything foreign that I can find, any suggestions as to what I should be doing about this? A common technique is to replace system commands (ls, ps) with hacked versions that behave in ways that make it difficult to spot/stop the intruder, or that provide a backdoor for the intruder to re-enter. You have been compromised, and you need to reinstall completely. Some data files can be salvaged, but every program must be replaced. Investigate using the tripwire package to detect these things in the future. -Mitch -- Any command with less than 48 switches is a Cat in the Hat book. - E. Charters
Re: Statistics/graphing programs for scientists?
On 12-Mar-99 Richard Lyon wrote: No free unix program is going to provide the sort of on-line help, user interface or range of analysis methods that comes with statistica. Unix applications like octave are not going to provide any better statistical analysis than a spreadsheet. You may be right about statistica (for all I know). However, your last sentence is so seriously misleading that it must be corrected. First, octave is no spreadsheet but close to being a clone of the MatLab core executable. Therefore it is a highly programmable matrix- and array-oriented general-purpose numerical analysis package and it is exremely powerful. What it lacks relative to MatLab is the range of toolboxes which add specialised pre-programmed functionality. Though it does have its own Statistics toolbox this is less complete than MatLab's. However, nothing whatever prevents a knowledgeable user from programming their own very sophisticated statistical analysis, far beyond what any spreadsheet known to me could achieve. Scilab is another free unix program with similar general capabilities to octave and more powerful in certain respects, with excellent graphical resources. In addition there are some powerful free unix programs which specialise in Statistics. R and XLispStat are important examples. An important though more specialised (based on Monte Carlo approaches to Bayesian statistics) package is BUGS, also available for Linux. And, lest your last sentence should give the impression that only programs with spreadsheet-like capability are available for UNIX generally, don't forget that almost all the major programs exist in UNIX versions (MatLab, S-plus, SPSS, Mathematica, SAS, maybe also Statistica, and so on) and many of them have been ported to Linux as well (MatLab being early on the Linux scene). Regards, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13-Mar-99 Time: 15:36:55 -- XFMail --
Re: Apt, Dselect, and Dpkg. What's the different?
On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 03:49:07PM -0500, Shaleh wrote: the hierarchy is: dpkg apt dselect currently. dselect may disappear. Please, don't! :-) I know this is a ugly beast, but I learned to love it, and it will take some time for me to get used to any other. I not in the way of progress, mind you, and I know dselect puts a lot of people away, so we are making a new frontend, _but_ I don't think dselect will disappear, at least not in the near future. Let the die-hards use what they like. :-) -- Pedro Guerreiro (aka digito)([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Diplomacy: the art of letting someone have your own way.
Re: Kernel 2.2.3
On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 09:20:04PM -0600, Faton Useni wrote: When i updated slink from kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.1 i got a kernel source package from the debian ftp site. It was a debian package. I read that there where no patches applied to the kernel source for use with debian. I am wondering since i dont see a deb package for 2.2.2 or 2.2.3 if i can grab the 2.2.3 kernel from ftp.kernel.org and not have any problems??? Also, has anyone else packaged these kernels in a deb?? You can just get the patches instead of the whole 2.2.3. Just get the 2.2.2 _and_ the 2.2.3 and them patch them in this order (read linux/README if you have any doubts). Oh, make sure you do a 'make-kpkg clean' before you start. I always get the source package for the kernel and compile them myself by hand, aplying any patch I see fit :-) (I'm compiling 2.2.3 as I write this). -- Pedro Guerreiro (aka digito)([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Diplomacy: the art of letting someone have your own way.
[Slightly Off-Topic] Printing from Netscape - page address
Hello, Is there any way to get the Netscape Browser (in communicator 4.5) to include the address of the web page on the top corner of the printout. The same version of netscape but for M$ does this automatically, even when attached to a linux print server. Is there anything I can do to get this functionality. It is not that important (not worht using M$ for) but it would be nice. Thanks in advance. byeee John.
Too New
I'm still trying to install Debian2.0. Here is what I'm doing. My computer boots to the CD-ROM, the rescue screen comes up. I press enter, Then I go into configure keyboard. After that I partition my second hard disk, ( first one has win98 on it)Make 1815mb for linux, 50 for swap, and should I make some for dos? the choices are dos16fat dos32fat and so on. after writing partition table, activating swap and such, I install the base system, after that, config, then reboot, I boot from floppy for now, so after boot, it goes into deslect, It asks for Access, I choose CD-ROM, It asks for the CD and the device block, I enter /dev/hdc, (Binary i386 is in the drive) It says it found something and it will do, but then it says it can't find something, I'm not sure what it is looking for, but it says enter none, after that its slect, then its install the packages, after that, its config, then quit. after ten minuts of hd and cd exchanges, it says good luck,,,. It says login, which I do as root, then password, then I get a prompt #. after that I can't do anything, If I type /dev/hdb1 it says permission denide, If I type ttys2 it says permission denide. whats going on here?
Re: Too New
I'm still trying to install Debian2.0. Here is what I'm doing. My computer boots to the CD-ROM, the rescue screen comes up. I press enter, Then I go into configure keyboard. After that I partition my second hard disk, ( first one has win98 on it)Make 1815mb for linux, 50 for swap, and should I make some for dos? the choices are dos16fat dos32fat and so on. after writing partition table, activating swap and such, no, that option is for those sharing the drive w/ windows and what not I install the base system, after that, config, then reboot, I boot from floppy for now, so after boot, it goes into deslect, It asks for Access, I choose CD-ROM, It asks for the CD and the device block, I enter /dev/hdc, (Binary i386 is in the drive) It says it found something and it will do, but then it says it can't find something, I'm not sure what it is it looks for contrib and non-free, which or not on the CD looking for, but it says enter none, after that its slect, then its install the packages, after that, its config, then quit. after ten minuts of hd and cd exchanges, it says good luck,,,. It says login, which I do as root, then password, then I get a prompt #. after that I can't do anything, If I type /dev/hdb1 it says permission denide, If I type ttys2 it says permission denide. whats going on here? the permission denied error is because it tries to run /dev/hdb1 as a command in UNIX everything is a file, and a file may be a program. So it says, hey why not and tries to run it. sounds good so far. Now, go to the local library or book store and look for a nice intro to unix or linux book and enjoy. Nothing is worse than fumbling in the dark w/ a new OS. Some hints: df shows the mounted disks (the windows drive is not mounted by default) ls shows ths files you have dselect will get you back to where you installed packages earlier read the man page for mount (type man mount)
Need advice for installing Oracle on Debian
I've been reading through the installation guide for Oracle 8.0.5, and I don't like what I see. It's such a memory hog that Oracle recommends tweaking the kernel parameters to allow the RDBMS to suck up vast amounts of memory. They also want four mount points at the root level, etc., etc. I need to install Oracle, but want to keep my system as unchanges as possible (e.g., FHS compliant). Is this possible? Can anyone please give me the benefit of their experience with installing Oracle on a Debian (2.1) system? TIA, ..Edmund. Apologies for the bad reply address--getting huge amounts of spam. Sigh.
Re: How to run a script when disconnecting a dialup connection
Ole J. Tetlie writes: Make a script that does what you want, and then takes down the links. That won't help when the link goes down for reasons other than having been poffed. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: Kernel 2.2.3
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.3 Date: Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 02:01:13AM -0600 In reply to:steven walsh Quoting steven walsh([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: [snip] If you have 2.2.1 and successfully add the 2.2.2 and 2.2.3 patches, then the end product *is* 2.2.3. Just tar it up yourself and name it as 2.2.3 tgz. Details, details. :) See you on the flip side - Steve Walsh (EfNet:#Babylon5:KnaraKat) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Linux Kernel HOWTO in the howto directory! -- The best book on programming for the layman is Alice in Wonderland; but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape Install
Subject: Netscape Install Date: Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 04:28:45PM -0800 In reply to:Rob Pratt Quoting Rob Pratt([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello. Excuse the newbie question, but I'm having a tough time getting the ns-install script to run to install Netscape on a 486 machine. The version I'm using is 4.51 for Linux 2.0 (supported). The readme says simply to run the script -- and voila, it installs. However, when I try to run the script, I get the error ns-install: not found even though I can see it in the directory where I'm trying to run it. Also, I've tried the manual install instructions (copying files, running a couple of gzips, etc.) with no success. Can someone provide a couple of steps or point to a script that does work? Rob Pratt at the prompt do ./ns-install -- You can't make a program without broken egos. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I can't beleive this
I know that everyone loves to hate Microsoft, and its Windows products. I know they are an easy target becuase they make a very successful product that has quite a few problems. They are a big corporation that controls the pc industry. and Linux is the underdog... All of this makes Windows VERY easy to pick on. BUT Windows has grown out of one mans dream. It started as a small OS (dos) that was every bit like a linux. They were the underdog. Instead of just looking at windows as the enemy why not learn from it!!! It didnt get this successful becuase it is a horrible product. Now, as to your post. There are some mistakes in it that I feel should be corrected... it goes on the first bootable partition, PERIOD, Well, not true, if you are using NT, you can install it on what ever partition you would like. All it needs is the NT loader to exist on the boot device. This could be a floppy... snip it [windows] does not allow multi-boot of other operating systems, AT ALL, Not true. I can setup a computer to (dual) boot, old DOS, Windows3.1, Windows 95, Windows 98 WindowsNT all on the same computer. I could even throw Netware in that mix as well... I install the base OS in a set configuration (no partitioning, etc by the user during install) Partitioning is done by the user before installation. (like in linux) with a specific set of applications that the user has no control over. You can customize the installation process to install what ever parts of the OS that you want to. You dont have 100% control, but it is far from no control. It will install quite nicely and the longest part is the reformat of the hard drive to remove that alien filesystem that it found living there. That IS true in most cases, WindowsNT is much better at it. Windows 95 has a terrible temper and hates other OSes installed. You should always install 95 FIRST, then install NT/LINUX. The problem comes in when you want to give control over the installation. The more control you give the more difficult it becomes because you HAVE to assume that the person with the control knows what to do with it. True... but... Comparing the two operating system's installation procedure is apples and oranges. The closest you can come with a commercial OS is POSSIBLY OS/2 ... and you know what people complained that OS/2 was too difficult to install. This is one area that I think Linux could take some hints. The installation process is not intended for the average user. Just saying to joe-average-windows-user hdd 0 would completely throw them... Even telling them c: might throw them... instead of completely discounting everything that windows has to offer, why not improve on some of its design features and show them how it should be done. Maybe an option during install that give the end user a friendly installation procedure? Give the user (if they want it) plug-and-play... Give the user simple-wording in a GUI interface that makes sense to a person without 5 years of computer experience. Give the user the OPTION. don't snub your nose at those technology-have-nots. If linux is to go onto EVERYONE'S desktop, it certainly needs to be MUCH more user friendly. Like I said, don't snub the windows OS, learn from its MANY mistakes and make it one better. There is nothing more ignorant then to just ignore something (windows) that has such a large installed base. Look at the way Windows did it. They took the MAC OS, and made its own improvements. Why does Windows have a recycle-bin? they stole the idea from the MAC. That is why they have the market share that they do. They have learned from other peoples mistakes...
Re: I've been cracked! (hamm, 2.0.35)
On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Don Erickson wrote: Somebody (through jhb60.jaring.my) wandered into my system, set up a user account for themselves and set up a couple of programs, eggdrop and smurf. Typically this is done by script kiddies who aren't particularly good computer users, but they take scripts written by other people and use them to break into systems. Then they typically use a rootkit to get root access and replace files, just as you've seen. ls is usually the first one they hack. They also replace system demons and so forth; probably there are now several backdoors into your system that don't use passwords at all. Check out www.rootshell.com, they have plenty of info and rootkits. They also have some information on securing your system. At this point, you can't trust your system. You *might* be able to restore from your last complete backup, if you are *sure* you know when you were cracked. More likely, you'll have to save what data files you can and then reinstall from trusted media, like a CD-ROM. Obviously, don't do this while your machine is hooked to the net. Examine carefully any other machines yours is hooked up to, e.g. by Ethernet. Don't put your system back on the net until you are reasonably confident you've closed the more common holes. Sorry, it sucks but that's the only way to be sure. If you want some revenge, you can try reporting to the sysadmins of the originating system, if you can actually identify it. :-/ Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Engineering is like having an 8 a.m. class and a late afternoon lab every day for the rest of your life. - Anonymous
Mozilla Fault
Hello. I got Mozilla installed from Debian packages, but when I run it, it creates two small windows (in fvwm95) then closes and returns the message, Segmentation fault. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this one? Rob Pratt
Debian GNU/Linux -- Getting in Contact with Us
we have a Ultrasparc 10 station and i would buy debian linux for UltaSparc. Is it possible ? thank you for ask me. answer in french if possible please.
ssh problem on potato
Hi! I have a fresh potato install and I cannot log in to the machine from a remote host using ssh. I get an error message like this: Warning: Remote host failed or refused to allocate a pseudo tty. What can be worng? feri.
Re: Too New
go to www.linux.org and click on documentation, go to the LDP pages and download (and read) the Getting Started guide -- Sarel Botha On Sat, 13 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still trying to install Debian2.0. Here is what I'm doing. My computer boots to the CD-ROM, the rescue screen comes up. I press enter, Then I go into configure keyboard. After that I partition my second hard disk, ( first one has win98 on it)Make 1815mb for linux, 50 for swap, and should I make some for dos? the choices are dos16fat dos32fat and so on. after writing partition table, activating swap and such, no, that option is for those sharing the drive w/ windows and what not I install the base system, after that, config, then reboot, I boot from floppy for now, so after boot, it goes into deslect, It asks for Access, I choose CD-ROM, It asks for the CD and the device block, I enter /dev/hdc, (Binary i386 is in the drive) It says it found something and it will do, but then it says it can't find something, I'm not sure what it is it looks for contrib and non-free, which or not on the CD looking for, but it says enter none, after that its slect, then its install the packages, after that, its config, then quit. after ten minuts of hd and cd exchanges, it says good luck,,,. It says login, which I do as root, then password, then I get a prompt #. after that I can't do anything, If I type /dev/hdb1 it says permission denide, If I type ttys2 it says permission denide. whats going on here? the permission denied error is because it tries to run /dev/hdb1 as a command in UNIX everything is a file, and a file may be a program. So it says, hey why not and tries to run it. sounds good so far. Now, go to the local library or book store and look for a nice intro to unix or linux book and enjoy. Nothing is worse than fumbling in the dark w/ a new OS. Some hints: df shows the mounted disks (the windows drive is not mounted by default) ls shows ths files you have dselect will get you back to where you installed packages earlier read the man page for mount (type man mount) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: PLEASE READ! IMPORTANT! ALL THE MEMBERS! PLEASE READ!
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 10:16:17PM -0700, Marshall Savage wrote: Filtering gets the email messages from the listserver into the correct separate email box. However it does nothing for the overwhelming volumn problem which threading would considerably help. Both web based discussion managers news reader programs handle treading well. For a group of this volume you would need a good discussion server at least one public server that I know of just isn't up to the job. It's to busy for good service. I wonder why this listserver group hasn't long ago gone to a news/news server format for the much better accessibility of the threaded news readers. It doesn't have to be part of the public news system with it's well known loss of messages, advertisements, harvesting of email addresses for future spam. If Debian can set up run the fancy listserver as they have they could just as well instead run a private or semi-private news server that only has Debian news/discussion on it. There are a reasonable number of such already on the net. The existing searchable email archive could be just as good or better as a news archive. At 3/10/99 08:56 AM , you wrote: From: Nuno Donato [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with you, threading is a must for the debian-* groups. I use mutt to read my mail, and it threads email. GNUs also does this. If worst comes to worst, and you _MUST_ use a news reader to read debian-user, use mail2news with a filtering program (exim or procmail) and run your own news server. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: true type fonts
I once saw a page plenty of TrueType fonts for (free?) download, don't remember the pointer, but may be worth to do a search. fonts.themes.org is nice :) -- Sarel Botha
Re: size of swap
On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 02:59:18PM -0800, mike shupp wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Armin Wegner wrote: I've got 128 megs ram. Which size should I choose for the swap partition? Apparantly Linux can't use more than 128 M in a swap partition, even if it happens to be larger, so... You can apparantly have _several_ swap partitions, however, if you want to set them up while configuring your system. My suspician is 128 is more than ample unless you're doing something awefully interesting. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Shupp California State University, Northridge Graduate Student, Dept. of Anthropology http://www.csun.edu/~ms44278/index.htm -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Ditto, I have 128 MB of RAM and set up 128 MB of swap (6 GB of hard drive space, what can I say?). The only time I've even needed swap is when netscape leaks memory (don't keep it up for more than 5 days) or when I ran a PHP/Mysql query that returned several million records and ate up all of my RAM and swap. (I just love kill -SIGKILL) -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org