Re: Problems with SSD

2015-06-03 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 13:46:55 -0400
Gary Dale  wrote:

> On 30/05/15 02:17 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 May 2015 13:18:17 -0600
> > Bob Proulx  wrote:
> >
> >> Jochen Spieker wrote:
> >>> Petter Adsen:
>  I'm starting to suspect that it is. Either that, or the
>  controller on the motherboard, which would be even worse.
> >>> Or just the cable (if we are not talking about a laptop). I got
> >>> rid of similar errors in the past by replacing the SATA cable.
> >> If it were me I would swap cables and move to a different SATA
> >> port on the motherboard.  I have seen individual SATA ports fail
> >> with the rest of the ports okay.  I also have the advantage of
> >> many different sets of hardware available and so I would mix and
> >> match the various parts into different systems.  If the problem
> >> stays with the system or moves with the moved part is a good
> >> diagnostic aid in determining which piece of hardware or software
> >> is causing problems.  In this case it is 1) the kernel software 2)
> >> sata cable 3) sata device 4) motherboard sata controller.  At
> >> least one of those is the problem.  It is a mental game of
> >> Mastermind to determine which.
> >  From what I can understand of the messages above, it seems the
> > error messages are coming from two different devices, ata4 and ata5
> > - or am I wrong? To me, that would (unfortunately) indicate the
> > controller...
> >
> > Petter
> >
> Could potentially be a BIOS setting depending on how the BIOS numbers 
> its drives. The first 4 drives are usually set the same while the
> last 2 can be set differently. Normally the first 4 should be set to
> AHCI while the last 2 should be set to the same as the first 4.

In my case it's 6 and 2, and all are set to AHCI.

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Re: Problems with SSD

2015-06-03 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 18:36:43 +0300
Selim T. Erdoğan  wrote:

> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:18:35AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote:
> > 
> > This just in:

> > [12675.977977] ata5: hard resetting link
> > [12680.979063] ata4: softreset failed (1st FIS failed)
> > [12680.979080] ata4: hard resetting link
> > [12685.976201] ata5: softreset failed (1st FIS failed)
> 
> You could try forcing the drive to a lower speed to see if taxing the 
> hardware less will avoid triggering the problem.
> 
> Make a file /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf and put the single line
>   options libata force=1.5G
> in it.  Reboot.  If it works, you can then try with 3.0G instead of
> 1.5G.

Thanks, I will try that and see if it helps, but it seems a lot like a
hardware problem. This motherboard is getting to be a few years old,
and has been working fine up until now, it just started behaving like
this a few days ago.

I'm investigating new motherboards now, since I heavily suspect that is
going to be what I'll end up having to do.

The drives/controller are not heavily utilized when this happens, the
machine is just churning along with low load. I always have gkrellm
open, and there is never any hint that utilization has anything to do
with this.

I will try it, though.

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Re: VoIP in jessie

2015-06-03 Thread tomas
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On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 08:15:19PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> > you should first build the re and rem lib debs and then install them ... 
> 
> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ ,
> chapters 4, 5 and 6, help to understand how package building works.
> 
> > ... (including dev packages).  then build baresip package and install it.
> 
> I don't understand how a dev package is built.  libre-dev for example.
> There is no -dev option for dpkg-buildpackage.

As far as I understand, the source package itself should "know" that it
is supposed to build binary -dev packages, so dpkg-buildpackage will do
the right thing. (Dpkg-buildpackage by default generates all binary packages
which "come out" of a source package).

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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 19:04 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote:
> I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list.  I sure 
> appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy when I 
> actually have the systems in hand.

You could always try mining Bitcoin:
http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html

But I guess none of your systems are quite as old? ;)

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Re: make oldconfig bzImage with GCC 4.9.2 on debian 8

2015-06-03 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 10:05 +0530, Dhiraj Bhor wrote:
> Is there any clue to proceed with this query?

No idea.

My suggestion was made after googling your problem for a couple of
minutes.

If this is for a school or uni project, you should really talk to the
people in charge and ask them to use a recent kernel that actually
builds or provide patches themselves.

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Workaround for making qt4 work with alsa

2015-06-03 Thread Francesco Ariis
Hello Debian users,
recently I encountered a bug in a qt4 application [1]. With the help
of irc user jm_ I found that qt4 doesn't work with alsa [2] (at least
on jessie).

This is evident when you try to run

user@machine:/usr/lib/qt4/demos/qmediaplayer/./qmediaplayer

(from qt4-demos), which outputs

[08502878] pulse audio output error: PulseAudio server connection
   failure: Connection refused
[08502878] core audio output error: no suitable audio output module


I guess I am not the only alsa user being bitten by this, so I wonder if
any of you came up with a viable workaround to make qt4 work with alsa
again on jessie.



[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787442
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740451


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How To Activate USB Wifi Adapter

2015-06-03 Thread Saurav Sarkar
Hello,

I am using Debian 8.0 amd64 which is downloaded from your site.

I want to use EDUP EP-N8513 usb wireless adapter for wireless networking.

By lsusb command in terminal i can see that the usb wifi adapter has been 
detected but in desktop environment it is not active.

Please help me out by replying me how to activate the usb wifi adapter.

Regards,
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Re: How To Activate USB Wifi Adapter

2015-06-03 Thread Pol Hallen

I want to use EDUP EP-N8513 usb wireless adapter for wireless networking.


you have to check which chipset adapter uses and looking for the drivers

Pol


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Re: How To Activate USB Wifi Adapter

2015-06-03 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 06:08 -0700, Saurav Sarkar wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am using Debian 8.0 amd64 which is downloaded from your site.
> 
> I want to use EDUP EP-N8513 usb wireless adapter for wireless networking.
> 
> By lsusb command in terminal i can see that the usb wifi adapter has been 
> detected but in desktop environment it is not active.
> 
> Please help me out by replying me how to activate the usb wifi adapter.

This seems to be a Realtek RTL8188CUS device. So should be supported by
the rtl8192cu driver. 

You need the realtek-firmware package from non-free. 

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Re (2): VoIP in jessie

2015-06-03 Thread peter
*   From: Ric Moore c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default:0
ALSA lib conf.c:4705:(snd_config_expand) Unknown parameters 0
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default:0
ALSA lib conf.c:4705:(snd_config_expand) Unknown parameters 1
ALSA lib control.c:953:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default:1
ALSA lib conf.c:4705:(snd_config_expand) Unknown parameters 1
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default:1
ALSA lib conf.c:4705:(snd_config_expand) Unknown parameters 1
ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default:1
Segmentation fault
peter@dalton:~$

Might help to set the "CTL default" to 1.  Will try baresip before more 
of this.

Thanks for the suggestion, ... Peter E.


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pendrive permissions

2015-06-03 Thread Pol Hallen

Hi all :-)

I use debian testing with mate desktop. How can I handles pendrive 
permissions? When I put in a pendrive, caja (mate window manager) can't 
mount it with this error message "unable to mount. Not authorized to 
perform operation".


Where mate handles usb permissions?

thanks!

Pol


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Re (2): VoIP in jessie

2015-06-03 Thread peter
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Re: Instructions for upgrading U-boot on Marvell OpenRD "Base" computer?

2015-06-03 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Vagrant Cascadian  [2015-06-02 13:37]:
> There isn't much traction in upstream u-boot on this, and I suspect
> u-boot is basically broken on sheevaplug, guruplug and openrd_ultimate
> in jessie, stretch and sid... With no activity upstream, I'm hesitant to

I booted u-boot from jessie on the SheevaPlug yesterday and it seemed
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Re: pendrive permissions

2015-06-03 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 16:20 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:
> Hi all :-)
> 
> I use debian testing with mate desktop. How can I handles pendrive 
> permissions? When I put in a pendrive, caja (mate window manager) can't 
> mount it with this error message "unable to mount. Not authorized to 
> perform operation".
> 
> Where mate handles usb permissions?

I think your user needs to be in the plugdev group.

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Re: How To Activate USB Wifi Adapter

2015-06-03 Thread Brian
On Wed 03 Jun 2015 at 06:08:09 -0700, Saurav Sarkar wrote:

> I am using Debian 8.0 amd64 which is downloaded from your site.
> 
> I want to use EDUP EP-N8513 usb wireless adapter for wireless
> networking.
> 
> By lsusb command in terminal i can see that the usb wifi adapter has
> been detected but in desktop environment it is not active.

Glad you can see it. Pity we are deprived of the information. :) The
chipset would probably be displayed too.

> Please help me out by replying me how to activate the usb wifi
> adapter.

The Debian wiki has some good sections on wifi adapters


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Re: HELP- very slow download speeds

2015-06-03 Thread Gary Roach

On 05/25/2015 11:16 PM, Petter Adsen wrote:

On Mon, 25 May 2015 18:53:42 -0700
Gary Roach  wrote:


On 05/24/2015 12:49 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:27:02 -0700
Gary Roach  wrote:


On 05/22/2015 01:19 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Darac Marjal wrote:

Gary Roach wrote:

When I start a download, it starts at 50M for the first few
seconds and then drops to 500K to 100K range.

Finally, don't rule out the possibility that your ISP is
throttling you. While you may be synced at 50M and may be able
to transfer at that for short periods (and thus, the ISP can
rightly claim that you have a 50M connection), they could
conceivably throttle your connection in the longer term.

I think this is quite the most likely possibility.  I have only
anecdotal reports from friends but what I hear is that often ISPs
allow a full speed burst but then throttle for long term steady
state data transfer.  That matches your reported behavior exactly.
This allows customers to run a speed test and have it report full
speed but prevent them from getting that speed for a long download
such as a full system upgrade or a large install ISO image
download.  Are you sure your ISP isn't throttling you?

Bob

I wouldn't put anything past those jackasses but am still
attempting to gather information. Would wireshark be a good tool
to do an in depth diagnosis of the problem? I've gotten a little
side tracked with another problem but plan to get back to this  in
the next couple of days. Any comments will be appreciated.

If you have shell access to a box somewhere, you can run "iperf" to
get an idea of the performance of the link between you. Obviously,
the closer to you, the better. Take a look at the "--interval"
parameter, so you can see how/if performance degrades over time.
"--dualtest" might also be helpful. There are probably guides out
there on how to get the best results from it, the man page doesn't
really do much except list all the options.

There may be better ways, but this is the one I typically use.
Wireshark would be more suited to analyze the actual traffic, if
you suspect something may be wrong there.

Petter


Thanks for the tips. Don't go away. As you will find in the newest
listings, I have a bigger problem at the moment. I will be back to
this one soon.

Seen and replied to :)


Comment on speed testers. The mostly use UDP packets which will never
detect trashed packets. God I hate big business in this country. What
ever happened to the antitrust laws I grew up with.

iperf will use either TCP or UDP. :)

Petter


Well, I'm back

I used iperf3 as follows:
iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com

The program just hangs. I also tried it with the -R switch with the same 
result. I then set up one the other computers on my internal net as a 
server (iperf3 -s) and got the following results:


Connecting to host 192.168.1.12, port 5201
[  4] local 192.168.1.7 port *50916* connected to 192.168.1.12 port 5201
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth   Retr  Cwnd
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec   104 MBytes   875 Mbits/sec0   67.9 KBytes
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec   105 MBytes   878 Mbits/sec0   67.9 KBytes
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec   105 MBytes   883 Mbits/sec0   67.9 KBytes
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec   106 MBytes   892 Mbits/sec0   67.9 KBytes
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec   104 MBytes   875 Mbits/sec0   67.9 KBytes
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec   104 MBytes   873 Mbits/sec0   67.9 KBytes
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec   104 MBytes   875 Mbits/sec0   67.9 KBytes
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec   104 MBytes   874 Mbits/sec0   67.9 KBytes
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec   105 MBytes   877 Mbits/sec0   67.9 KBytes
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec   104 MBytes   874 Mbits/sec0   67.9 KBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth   Retr
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.02 GBytes   878 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.02 GBytes   877 Mbits/sec  
receiver


iperf Done.

My local network seems to be working fine (I tried the -R switch as 
well. Same good results). Needless to say, I'm using a 100 Mbyte/second 
network.


I am behind a verizon M1424WR rev. I router firewall that has been free 
of any "known" transmission trouble before. Could the firewall be the 
problem or has scottlinux.com shut down their iperf3 server.


Your comments will be sincerely appreciated.

Gary R


Re: pendrive permissions

2015-06-03 Thread Pol Hallen

I think your user needs to be in the plugdev group.


thanks Sven, users already were in plugdev...

looking for I found something like polkit but I didn't solve :-/

Pol


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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Jose Martinez



On 06/02/2015 11:45 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote:

On 06/02/2015 08:11 PM, Jose Martinez wrote:



On 06/02/2015 10:08 PM, Celejar wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:46:17 +0100
Lisi Reisz  wrote:


On Tuesday 02 June 2015 16:28:30 lostson wrote:

On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 16:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:55:51 Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 21:14 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote:

Hmm, that is a little disappointing.  But, I can probably run
Squeeze. Nothing like stone knives and bear skins!:-)

I think even squeeze would be a challenge (maybe a fun one though!)
when it comes to ram and disk space.

But there's always vintage operating systems for vintage 
computers :)

I thought of DSL.  But it needs an i486. :-(
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=damnsmall

Lisi

  How about Tiny Core Linux

http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/faq.html#req

Needs i486. :-(

Ah, nostalgia. I learned linux using BasicLinux, which is still around,
and will apparently run on a 386:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/baslinux/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BasicLinux

I still remember that incredible feeling, some many years ago, when I
put the floppy into a Windows box, rebooted, insmod'd the relevant
ethernet driver module, brought the network up, and had an actual
working networked *nix terminal ;)

Yeah, there's nothing like making an antique useful.  I remember the 
days of the PDP-11 running *nixWhat I wouldn't give to come up 
with one of those old things!!



Lisi

Celejar




My first programming class, back in 1976 was on a PDP-11.  Those were 
the days.  Bootstrap with physical toggle switches on the box to enter 
the binary code.


Marc


Boy do I remember those toggle switches!!!  A few years back, I built a 
Z-80 based toy, and that was one of things I wanted t have...Toggle 
switches and lights on the front panel!  Made it work too.




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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Jose Martinez



On 06/03/2015 05:30 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 19:04 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote:

I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list.  I sure
appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy when I
actually have the systems in hand.

You could always try mining Bitcoin:
http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html

But I guess none of your systems are quite as old? ;)

Oh, Man, Holerith (It's been so long I'm not sure how to spell it 
anymore)...I learned to type on an IBM keypunch machine punching 80 
column cards full of data for some statistical analysis (wrote the 
analysis proceedures in SPSS, too).  Those were the days:-D



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Re: Re (2): VoIP in jessie

2015-06-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 03 June 2015 14:41:21 pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> * From: Lisi Reisz

There seem to be three of these, mutatis mutandis.  Are they meant to mean 
anything?

Lisi


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RE: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Larry Owens


-Original Message-
From: Jose Martinez [mailto:jomartinez...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 12:51 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Old Computers



On 06/03/2015 05:30 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 19:04 -0500, Jose Martinez wrote:
>> I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list.  I sure 
>> appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy when 
>> I actually have the systems in hand.
> You could always try mining Bitcoin:
> http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.h
> tml
>
> But I guess none of your systems are quite as old? ;)
>
Oh, Man, Holerith (It's been so long I'm not sure how to spell it anymore)...I 
learned to type on an IBM keypunch machine punching 80 column cards full of 
data for some statistical analysis (wrote the analysis proceedures in SPSS, 
too).  Those were the days:-D

And do you remember carrying your punched card deck from the keypunch room to 
the data center--and have someone bump into you and spill the cards on the 
floor?
Larry
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Re: wget vs curl (was ... Re: debian 8)

2015-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Reco wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 01:17:15PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > David Wright wrote:
> > > Reco wrote:
> > > > So, in the case of doubt - you use curl or rebuild wget against
> > > > openssl. It's that simple.
> > 
> > I know that people have strong feelings for and against curl and wget.
> > I haven't ever understood it.  You are the first to quantify why you
> > think Debian's curl deals better with https sites.  It appears the
> > issues all surround https handling.
> 
> Indeed. For example, I stumble upon #686837 on regular basis.
> 
> And I'd like to add that wget that's linked against gnutls *would* be
> good thing *if* it allowed to poke all GnuTLS knobs - #642051. But it
> does not.

You might be interested to see curl 7.42.1-2 entered unstable today.
It immediately started core dumping for me.  But see also Bug#787638
where the affect was widespread and reportedly in libcurl3-gnutls.  I
know that wget and httping were segfaulting for me too.  An upgrade
later in the day pulled in more upgrades and solved the problem for me.

  http://bugs.debian.org/342719

  Date: Sun, 03 May 2015 13:13:15 +0200
  Distribution: unstable

   * Switch curl binary to libcurl3-gnutls (Closes: #342719)
 This is the first step of a possible migration to a GnuTLS-only
 libcurl for Debian. Let's see how it goes.

If you have opinions you might want to make your comments known.

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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Jose Martinez wrote:
> Marc Shapiro wrote:
> > Jose Martinez wrote:
> > > Yeah, there's nothing like making an antique useful.  I remember the
> > > days of the PDP-11 running *nixWhat I wouldn't give to come up with
> > > one of those old things!!
> >
> > My first programming class, back in 1976 was on a PDP-11.  Those were the
> > days.  Bootstrap with physical toggle switches on the box to enter the
> > binary code.
> 
> Boy do I remember those toggle switches!!!  A few years back, I built a Z-80
> based toy, and that was one of things I wanted t have...Toggle switches and
> lights on the front panel!  Made it work too.

Put that PDP 11 experience to work!  Here is a recent job posting for
a PDP 11 Software Designer for a nuclear power plant.  Some things
never go out of style!  Especially when working at a nuclear power
plant.  Hope they will have 500 years worth of spare parts.

  https://ca.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/28135735
  January 20, 2015
  Job description
  Design of new PDP-11 assembly level software as well as the
  extension of existing automated control systems to accommodate new
  functionality.
  ...

Bob


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Re: Problems with SSD

2015-06-03 Thread Ric Moore

On 06/03/2015 03:51 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 18:36:43 +0300
Selim T. Erdoğan  wrote:


On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:18:35AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote:


This just in:



[12675.977977] ata5: hard resetting link
[12680.979063] ata4: softreset failed (1st FIS failed)
[12680.979080] ata4: hard resetting link
[12685.976201] ata5: softreset failed (1st FIS failed)


You could try forcing the drive to a lower speed to see if taxing the
hardware less will avoid triggering the problem.

Make a file /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf and put the single line
   options libata force=1.5G
in it.  Reboot.  If it works, you can then try with 3.0G instead of
1.5G.


Thanks, I will try that and see if it helps, but it seems a lot like a
hardware problem. This motherboard is getting to be a few years old,
and has been working fine up until now, it just started behaving like
this a few days ago.

I'm investigating new motherboards now, since I heavily suspect that is
going to be what I'll end up having to do.

The drives/controller are not heavily utilized when this happens, the
machine is just churning along with low load. I always have gkrellm
open, and there is never any hint that utilization has anything to do
with this.


You might have your power supply checked as well. With all of those 
drives, you might be straining for more juice and, as a result, the 
system appears flakey. Ric




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Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze

2015-06-03 Thread notoneofmy
I've attached my system log and perhaps I get help, as no luck with that
big search engine.

But it appears a bigger problem than iceweasel.

Thanks a lot.

On 15-06-02 7:58 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
>>> Anyone here having serious issues with Iceweasel in Jessie.
>>
>> Yes it's  a real pig, and resource hog.
>>
>>> I went to install some addons and the computer froze. Had to restart.
>>
>> No, never had that happen.
>>
>>> At other times, the browser had done same; cause the computer to
>>> freeze.
>>
>> Are you sure it froze or it was just Iceweasel hogging the whole system?
>
> I've had firefox do the same. Just run it nekkid, without addons, and
> see the difference. 



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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Ron
0C7 and 0CB compile errors anyone ?
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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Re: wget vs curl (was ... Re: debian 8)

2015-06-03 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:21:44 -0600
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Reco wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 01:17:15PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > David Wright wrote:
> > > > Reco wrote:
> > > > > So, in the case of doubt - you use curl or rebuild wget against
> > > > > openssl. It's that simple.
> > > 
> > > I know that people have strong feelings for and against curl and wget.
> > > I haven't ever understood it.  You are the first to quantify why you
> > > think Debian's curl deals better with https sites.  It appears the
> > > issues all surround https handling.
> > 
> > Indeed. For example, I stumble upon #686837 on regular basis.
> > 
> > And I'd like to add that wget that's linked against gnutls *would* be
> > good thing *if* it allowed to poke all GnuTLS knobs - #642051. But it
> > does not.
> 
> You might be interested to see curl 7.42.1-2 entered unstable today.
> It immediately started core dumping for me.  But see also Bug#787638
> where the affect was widespread and reportedly in libcurl3-gnutls. I
> know that wget and httping were segfaulting for me too.  An upgrade
> later in the day pulled in more upgrades and solved the problem for me.

Seems to be resolved in unstable, according to the bug. Still, thanks
for the heads up.


>   http://bugs.debian.org/342719
> 
>   Date: Sun, 03 May 2015 13:13:15 +0200
>   Distribution: unstable
> 
>* Switch curl binary to libcurl3-gnutls (Closes: #342719)
>  This is the first step of a possible migration to a GnuTLS-only
>  libcurl for Debian. Let's see how it goes.
> 
> If you have opinions you might want to make your comments known.

I have two. First - it seems like an extreme attempt to fix #768522
(#342719 does not provide a meaningful explanation for the switch).
By itself, it's a good thing.

Second - from now upon unstable Debian has one tool less for testing
those misconfigured https web-servers. At least we still have socat for
this :(

But then again - there's nothing that a package rebuild cannot fix :)

Reco


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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Ron
On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 13:08:44 -0700
"Larry Owens"  wrote:

> And do you remember carrying your punched card deck from the keypunch room to 
> the data center--and have someone bump into you and spill the cards on the 
> floor?

Which certainly taught you the hard way to draw one (or several) diagonal 
pencil or ink lines across the top of your card deck...
 
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Re: pendrive permissions

2015-06-03 Thread Brian
On Wed 03 Jun 2015 at 19:56:36 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:

> >I think your user needs to be in the plugdev group.
> 
> thanks Sven, users already were in plugdev...
> 
> looking for I found something like polkit but I didn't solve :-/

Installed a minimal Debian Jessie. Installed xorg and mate. Plugged USB
stick in. caja comes up. The device is mounted.

Upgraded to testing. Same result as above.

I'd look at your install method and not follow the example of the domain
name you post with.


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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread John Hasler
Renaud writes:
> Which certainly taught you the hard way to draw one (or several)
> diagonal pencil or ink lines across the top of your card deck...

Or to number your cards so that you could simply run a scrambled deck
through the card sorter.
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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-03 Thread Mike McClain
On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote:
> And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at
> all.  So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not
> really be a problem in this situation.
>
> I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list.  I sure
> appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy
> when I actually have the systems in hand.
> --
> JM

If you need linux on a 386 that's where I started with DosLinux.
I still have a copy if you're interested. As I recall no Xwindows just
command line.
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httpd virtual package

2015-06-03 Thread Anatoly A. Kazantsev
Hello,

I have installed lighttpd (same for nginx) on stable/testing,
but it doesn't provide httpd virtual package.

$ aptitude show lighttpd
Package: lighttpd
State: installed
Automatically installed: no
Version: 1.4.35-4
Priority: optional
Section: httpd
Maintainer: Debian lighttpd maintainers 

Architecture: i386
Uncompressed Size: 779 k
Depends: libattr1 (>= 1:2.4.46-8), libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.15), libfam0,
 libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7), libpcre3 (>= 8.10), libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.0),
 zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), init-system-helpers (>= 1.18~), perl, lsb-base (>=
 3.2-14) | systemd (>= 29.1), mime-support, libterm-readline-perl-perl
Recommends: spawn-fcgi
Suggests: openssl, rrdtool, apache2-utils
Provides: httpd, httpd-cgi
...

$ aptitude show httpd
No current or candidate version found for httpd

Same result from apt-cache:

$ apt-cache show httpd
N: Can't select versions from package 'httpd' as it is purely virtual
N: No packages found

I'll post some other information if you need it. This is my first time on
debian-user@lists.debian.org

P.S: I'm not on the list, please keep me CCed

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Re: httpd virtual package

2015-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Anatoly A. Kazantsev wrote:
> P.S: I'm not on the list, please keep me CCed
>...

> I have installed lighttpd (same for nginx) on stable/testing,
> but it doesn't provide httpd virtual package.

But it did.  It showed as "Provides: httpd" in your data.  That is how
it provides that virtual name.

> Provides: httpd, httpd-cgi

There it is. :-)

What are you missing that you are expecting to see?  I have not used
Lighttpd but I do use Nginx and like it and could answer questions
concerning the use fo it.

> $ aptitude show httpd
> No current or candidate version found for httpd

The "aptitude show" command shows information about a package name.
The httpd name is not a package name.  Therefore aptitude does not
show it.

> Same result from apt-cache:
> $ apt-cache show httpd
> N: Can't select versions from package 'httpd' as it is purely virtual
> N: No packages found

Same thing for apt-cache.  However apt-cache tells you it is a pure
virtual name and not a package and no packages named httpd are found.
I think that is a little nicer.

> I'll post some other information if you need it. This is my first time on
> debian-user@lists.debian.org

Welcome to the mailing list!  I have CC'd you as requested.  Good job
on making that request.  The default otherwise would be to reply only
to the mailing list.

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Re: much longer boot time with jessie

2015-06-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Fekete Tamás (fek...@gmail.com):
>>> I have 7 years old computer with wheezy installed on it. Temporarly or not I
>>> decided to keep this older version of Debian, because I upgraded to jessie 
>>> and
>>> the boot time became extremey slower. To represent this with numbers: when 
>>> grub
>>> finished with countdown, took 52 seconds to boot into GDM.
>>> In wheezy it tooks only 30 sec (which is completely normal I think) with the
>>> same conditions.

My experience is similar on this 7 year old laptop. Typical timings:

jessie  wheezy
1 Grub to Login Prompt82  47
2 Login Prompt to VC Bash Prompt  33  6
3 Bash Command to X fully up  62  16

2 and 3 are faster if repeated after all the startup disk activity has
subsided.

1 usually takes an infinite time if the module binfmt_misc is
not loaded from /etc/modules. (See
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/05/msg01060.html
and follow the In-reply-to or References links.

> So, firstly the slowlyness was not because of the first boot (because I tried
> more than 10times)
> Secondly, I can not say how the system would act for commands given by Michael
> (because
> I moved back to wheezy)

Here's the output for this laptop:

$ systemd-analyze blame
1min 27.935s ModemManager.service
1min 13.144s acpi-support.service
 52.112s avahi-daemon.service
 46.983s ntp.service
 26.242s wicd.service
 20.986s exim4.service
 19.930s timidity.service
 17.381s console-kit-daemon.service
 16.372s binfmt-support.service
 16.274s alsa-restore.service
 16.273s console-kit-log-system-start.service
 15.918s bluetooth.service
 15.663s lm-sensors.service
 15.303s systemd-logind.service
 15.206s rc-local.service
 15.202s systemd-user-sessions.service
 15.200s apmd.service
 15.199s rsyslog.service
 15.199s virtualbox.service
 15.199s loadcpufreq.service
 15.198s gpm.service
 11.174s colord.service
  9.694s aumix.service
  8.227s user@1000.service
  7.388s polkitd.service
  7.365s systemd-suspend.service
  4.271s keyboard-setup.service
  3.677s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-john03.service
  3.674s networking.service
  3.618s kbd.service
  2.958s nfs-common.service
  2.916s systemd-modules-load.service
  2.548s irqbalance.service
  2.469s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
  2.342s resolvconf.service
  2.199s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
  2.019s systemd-setup-dgram-qlen.service
  2.015s dev-hugepages.mount
  1.926s dev-mqueue.mount
  1.849s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-john02.service
  1.841s sys-kernel-debug.mount
  1.829s hdparm.service
  1.475s rpcbind.service
  1.437s systemd-udev-trigger.service
  1.415s gdomap.service
  1.233s saned.service
  1.164s cpufrequtils.service
   868ms dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-john04.swap
   654ms westw.mount
   640ms kmod-static-nodes.service
   545ms systemd-update-utmp.service
   528ms systemd-udevd.service
   512ms systemd-remount-fs.service
   431ms rtkit-daemon.service
   424ms systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service
   312ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill1.service
   305ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill0.service
   286ms systemd-sysctl.service
   286ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill4.service
   274ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill3.service
   243ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
   237ms systemd-backlight@backlight:dell_backlight.service
   195ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill2.service
   120ms console-setup.service
   109ms clamav-daemon.socket
95ms systemd-random-seed.service
91ms udev-finish.service
42ms home.mount
19ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
12ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill5.service
12ms systemd-journal-flush.service
11ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
 5ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount

$ systemd-analyze critical-chain
The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.

graphical.target @2min 6.738s
└─multi-user.target @2min 6.738s
  └─acpi-support.service @53.593s +1min 13.144s [in RED]
└─basic.target @37.647s
  └─sockets.target @37.643s
└─clamav-daemon.socket @37.530s +109ms [in RED]
  └─sysinit.target @37.517s
└─systemd-journald.service @1min 50.051s
  └─syslog.socket @6.791s
└─systemd-setup-dgram-qlen.service @4.768s +2.019s [in RED]
  └─system.slice @4.766s
└─-.slic

Re: much longer boot time with jessie

2015-06-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 04.06.2015 um 06:59 schrieb David Wright:

> $ systemd-analyze blame
> 1min 13.144s acpi-support.service

Can you please try and uninstall and purge
the following packages (not typically needed with jessie anyway)

acpid
acpi-support-base
acpi-support
consolekit

and report back if that makes a difference


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Re: Jessie - Mate - LibreOffice Need larger fonts everywhere

2015-06-03 Thread Richard Owlett

Richard Owlett wrote:

Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 15:23 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

2. I want to force a specific default Font Family and Font
Size for cells on
   *ALL* spreadsheets. I can set for specific region of
current spreadsheet only.


This will let you change the default font:
http://os4me.com/open-source-training/libreoffice/calc/set-default-font/




Thank you. That gets me most of the way. I wasn't successful in
saving the "template". I suspect permissions issue and/or need to
reread some portion of instructions. Rushed right now, should
know more by tomorrow.



That was *not* the problem.
On initial readS I had had not caught the distinction between
  1. default (read hard coded) behavior
  and
  2. creating a template and then forcing that template to be always
 loaded (i.e. a "default template").



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Re: HELP- very slow download speeds

2015-06-03 Thread Petter Adsen
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:41:49 -0700
Gary Roach  wrote:

> On 05/25/2015 11:16 PM, Petter Adsen wrote:
> > iperf will use either TCP or UDP. :)
> >
> > Petter
> >
> Well, I'm back
> 
> I used iperf3 as follows:
>  iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com
> 
> The program just hangs. I also tried it with the -R switch with the same 
> result. I then set up one the other computers on my internal net as a 
> server (iperf3 -s) and got the following results:
> 

> [ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth   Retr
> [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.02 GBytes   878 Mbits/sec 0 sender
> [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.02 GBytes   877 Mbits/sec  
> receiver
> 
> iperf Done.
> 
> My local network seems to be working fine (I tried the -R switch as 
> well. Same good results). Needless to say, I'm using a 100 Mbyte/second 
> network.

Seems good.

> I am behind a verizon M1424WR rev. I router firewall that has been free 
> of any "known" transmission trouble before. Could the firewall be the 
> problem or has scottlinux.com shut down their iperf3 server.

Well, it's not shut down, as I just tried it and it works fine here.
Maybe it was down, though, and you should try again?

If it still doesn't work, then check your firewall. It shouldn't give
you any problems, as you are simply trying to establish a connection to
port 5201 on a remote machine, but check. Enable firewall logging, if
possible, and see if anything gets blocked. Verify that you can reach
the webserver running on the same host.

Also try with UDP ("-u -b 0").

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