Re: dséabonnement

[Frédéric ROBERT]

On 10/27/21 6:23 PM, dstc wrote:

bonsoir,

pourriez vous me désabonner, les discutions de cette liste sont sûrement 
fort intéressantes mais beaucoup trop pointues pour moi


merci



Bonsoir,

Vous envoyez un e-mail à debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org 
avec le mot unsubscribe dans objet (sujet),


Bien à vous,

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Re: replacement of sqsh for debian 11

[basti]

sqlite is *not* T-SQL.
sqlite generally follows PostgreSQL syntax (see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQLite)

Am 28.10.21 um 03:10 schrieb Michael Castellon:
> sqsh > sql server database
> 
> sqlite3 > sqlite3 database
> 
> I need to connect to the sql server.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 5:38 AM Махно  > wrote:
> 
> Hello. I think sqlite3 is a good alternative.
> 
> 
> 2021-10-27, tr, 00:55 Michael Castellon  > rašė:
> >
> > replacement of sqsh for debian 11?
> >
> > thanks.
> > regards.
> 

dséabonnement

[dstc]

bonsoir,

pourriez vous me désabonner, les discutions de cette liste sont sûrement 
fort intéressantes mais beaucoup trop pointues pour moi


merci

Re: replacement of sqsh for debian 11

[Michael Castellon]

sqsh > sql server database

sqlite3 > sqlite3 database

I need to connect to the sql server.

Thanks

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 5:38 AM Махно  wrote:

> Hello. I think sqlite3 is a good alternative.
>
>
> 2021-10-27, tr, 00:55 Michael Castellon  rašė:
> >
> > replacement of sqsh for debian 11?
> >
> > thanks.
> > regards.
>

Re: replacement of sqsh for debian 11

[basti]

if you need a mssql-cli

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/tools/mssql-cli?view=sql-server-ver15

or build your own sqsh-cli from debian-testing.

Am 28.10.21 um 03:10 schrieb Michael Castellon:
> sqsh > sql server database
> 
> sqlite3 > sqlite3 database
> 
> I need to connect to the sql server.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 5:38 AM Махно  > wrote:
> 
> Hello. I think sqlite3 is a good alternative.
> 
> 
> 2021-10-27, tr, 00:55 Michael Castellon  > rašė:
> >
> > replacement of sqsh for debian 11?
> >
> > thanks.
> > regards.
> 

Re: replacement of sqsh for debian 11

[didier gaumet]

sqsh seem to be a substitute for Sybase isql

there are isql and iusql (UTF-8) programs in the unixodbc package

Re: dséabonnement

[Frédéric ROBERT]

On 10/27/21 6:23 PM, dstc wrote:

bonsoir,

pourriez vous me désabonner, les discutions de cette liste sont sûrement 
fort intéressantes mais beaucoup trop pointues pour moi


merci



et vous validez avec le mail reçu

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Re: how to avoid the terminal overlap

[Cindy Sue Causey]

On 10/27/21, lina  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I think Tim got my point correct. I have corrected the issue by following
> the advice I googled:
> *1 Answer*
>
>1. Right click on the taskbar, select Panel -> Panel Preferences.
>2. Select the Items tab , select Window Buttons in the list, click the
>Edit button on the right side.
>3. Change Window grouping to Never.
>
> Thanks again with best regards, lina


Thank you for coming back to say it worked. I saw this thread
yesterday and thought I understood you wanted to change same thing I
did. I found those same instructions but missed that "minor detail"
about clicking on "Window Buttons". Just tried it again, and mine's
now fixed, too.

Feels like old times on this desktop.. Very happy! I don't know why
it's easier for my brain to pick what it needs from that mess of
buttons strewn across the top, but it is (much easier). The "never
group" option has the added bonus of being a constant nag that browser
windows need archived and closed, permanently if not sooner. :)

Cindy :)
-- 
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Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with birdseed *

Re: replacement of sqsh for debian 11

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 10:22:49PM -0300, Markos wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> A tutorial for Sqlite (in Portuguese):
> 
> http://www.c2o.pro.br/hackaguas/app.html

> Em 26-10-2021 18:55, Michael Castellon escreveu:
> > replacement of sqsh for debian 11?

You see how this works now, right?

Did you see the responses you got to your question?  I'd like you to
think for a moment.

Why did you get these responses?

It's because your question was so vague, so utterly devoid of information,
that everyone reading the question had to come up with their own
interpretation of WHAT. YOU. WANTED.

If you would like USEFUL answers to your question, next time, please
consider taking a few minutes to write out a question that the people
reading the mailing list can actually understand, and answer in a
useful fashion, without having to speculate about the missing details.

The one thing that you got right was that you said which version of
Debian you're targeting.  Good.  Keep that up.

Beyond that?  Nobody could figure out that you were trying to connect
to an existing proprietary database.  Because you didn't tell us that.

Change root subvolume on btrfs

[piorunz]

Hello,

I have / partition on btrfs subvolume, default name @rootfs created by
Debian.

I'd like to use Timeshift for snapshots, but it only recognizes root on
@ subvolume, any other subvolume name is being ignored. Pretty stupid to
me, but I'd like to use it - I don't see other way to have snapshots.

Question:
How can I rename / subvolume on btrfs from @rootfs to @?
I tried:
rename folder name by hand from USB stick Linux Mint from @rootfs to @,
and then changing @rootfs to @ in /etc/fstab, but grub didn't booted, it
thrown me out to grub emergency console. I had to revert it back.

What else I need to do to make this change? Chroot to debian and do sudo
update-grub? If so, how? There is many conflicting tutorials how can I
chroot to do update-grub that I am lost. I will welcome any suggestions.

Some context:
$ sudo btrfs subvolume list /
ID 256 gen 176714 top level 5 path @rootfs
ID 265 gen 21191 top level 256 path var/lib/portables
ID 266 gen 21192 top level 256 path var/lib/machines

/etc/fstab lines:

UUID=77ba5989-5d64-4929-9145-ede6751a4102   /
btrfs
noatime,nodiratime,space_cache=v2,ssd,compress-force=zstd:6,subvol=@rootfs
0 1
(...)
UUID=9A94-D623  /boot/efi
vfatumask=0077 0 1

I use UEFI with GPT, no CSM, it that matters for anything.


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Re: replacement of sqsh for debian 11

[Markos]

Hi Michael,

A tutorial for Sqlite (in Portuguese):

http://www.c2o.pro.br/hackaguas/app.html

Translated by Google:

https://tinyurl.com/p7usdat9

Best Replacements, :-)
Markos

Em 26-10-2021 18:55, Michael Castellon escreveu:

replacement of sqsh for debian 11?

thanks.
regards.

Re: Looking for a way to cache .deb files downloaded by apt inside sbuild schroot

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 05:32:21PM +0300, Uladzimir Bely wrote:
> When sbuild is used to compile a package from sources, some packages (package 
> dependencies) are internally downloaded and installed in schroot.
> 
> I'm looking for a way to cache the dependencies in form of .deb files outside 
> the schroot. So that I could later create a local partial debian repo from 
> these .deb files and run sbuild for a second time using the same schroot but 
> with local repo for getting dependencies.
> 
> I tried several options for sbuild (like --purge-build=never, --purge-
> deps=never, --purge-session=never), tried to find .deb files during the build 
> using at some stages (--pre-build-commands="ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/", 
>  
> --starting-build-commands="ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/", --finished-build-
> commands="ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/") - but I couldn't see any .deb 
> files inside the schroot.
> 
You might want to look at cowbuilder.  It does this automatically
without any additional components that need to be configured.

Regards,

-Roberto

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getmail6

[mick crane]

It seems that the maintainer of getmail is getting unnecessary grief 
because users of getmail6 are requesting of him solutions for problems 
that are not of his making.
It seems normal that when a project is forked that it is called 
something different to the name of the existing code.
That would appear to be the sensible solution, to call getmail6 
something else.
Dogs like to fetch sticks and frisbees so maybe something to do with 
that.

mick
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what is the best package to design the layout of the house

[lina]

Hi all,

What is the best/user-friendly package that can be used to design a simple
house, if it comes with garden design it would be a bonus.

Thanks ahead for your recommendation,

lina

Re: Curious Question about an Extra MAC Address

[john doe]

On 10/27/2021 12:26 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

Martin McCormick wrote:

sudo nmap -sn 192.168.1.0/24 followed by
   sudo arp -a and I found nothing extraordinary so I also got on
our Netgear router and told it to cough up a list of attached
devices, showing the same list of stuff that the first two sweeps
found.  Additionally, there was 1 mac address with no other
information such as an IP address or system name, just that MAC
on a row all by itself.

I had been looking for our DVD player which has the
ability to view streamed movies and I think this might be it.


https://ouilookup.com/

will take that MAC and let you know which manufacturer has that
block assigned.


My question is, did the link she went to on the computer
or maybe her iPhone use javascript to get our WiFi password and
if so, how did the player get the authorization to use our WiFi?


1. It found an open wifi network
2. It's plugged into your ethernet
3. Your wife gave it the wifi password


I am just curious about how did this work and could a
person cause it to log on to our WiFi network and receive a video
stored on a system here?


Quite possibly. The systems for this is called several names, but
the most likely are UPNP, DLNA, ChromeCast or AirPlay.


What I am actually thinking of is more like a DVR where a
computer can record a TV show like the old-school VCR's and then
one could play it back through the DVD player on the network.


Suitable Debian packages include:

mythtv
vdr
kodi
and for music, many others.




This player can also update it's firmware when necessary
and we've never been prompted from it for a WiFi password.  It
just seems to be able to get through when it needs to.


That's suggestive of already knowing your wifi password or being
on a wired network.



If there is no ethernet cable attached to the player, you could try to
reset it to factory default and try to reconnected to your network.

--
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Re: Trouble using SDXC 128GB card

[Anssi Saari]

Musbur  writes:

> According to the specs, the builtin card reader of the T480s is SDXC
> compatible. Is there a driver for Linux that can make this card work?
> The BIOS of the computer has just been updated a week ago. Is the
> hardware just not compatible?

As Windows 10 can't access the card either then it seems likely your
hardware is not compatible. Curious though. For example,
https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-Impressions-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T480s-i5-WQHD-Laptop.284832.0.html
tested SDXC card performance on T480s. I guess it's possible your
specific T480s has a different card reader. Maybe you can check the
laptop's specific configuration with its serial number?

Well, external card readers are cheap and one assumes your camera can
connect to the PC with USB.

Re: how to avoid the terminal overlap

[lina]

Hi All,

I think Tim got my point correct. I have corrected the issue by following
the advice I googled:
*1 Answer*

   1. Right click on the taskbar, select Panel -> Panel Preferences.
   2. Select the Items tab , select Window Buttons in the list, click the
   Edit button on the right side.
   3. Change Window grouping to Never.

Thanks again with best regards, lina

On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:31 PM Tim Woodall 
wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021, lina wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Once upgraded to the new system, I found that they would gather the same
> > app in one tab.
> >
> > Such as Xfce terminal all in one, I want them to be listed one by one,
> not
> > to be degenerated into one.
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestions, and sorry for the description, I don't know
> > what is the best way to describe it.
> >
> > Best regards, lina
> >
> I think the search terms you're looking for are
> xfce disable grouping taskbar.
>
> I don't know how to do it as I like it grouped (I might even
> have deliberately chosen this way in the deep dark past if it didn't use
> to be the default.)
>
>
>

Re: Trouble using SDXC 128GB card

[Dieter Rohlfing]

Am Tue, 26 Oct 2021 15:41:33 +
schrieb Musbur :

>I'm using a Lenovo Thinkpad T480s. Recently I bought a SanDisk Extreme
>Pro 128GB SDXC card for my digital camera, but I quickly found out that
>the system can't work with that card.
>.
>The camera can format, read and write just fine.

Perhaps this link

https://github.com/ThomasKaiser/Knowledge/blob/master/articles/A1_and_A2_rated_SD_cards.md#application-performance-class-2-a2

may explain, why you have these problems.

Specially the following text is interesting:

>Application Performance Class 2 (A2)
>A2 promises even better performance with 4000/2000 read/write IOPS
>minimum but there's a problem since as outlined by the SD Association A2
>cards show "much higher performance than A1 performance by using
>functions of Command Queuing and Cache".
>
>Cache and Command Queuing require host (driver) support since the host
>needs to activate those new features first. The cache feature on A2 rated
>cards makes use of volatile RAM on the card requiring the host to learn
>new commands to issue flushing the cache (involving the risk of data
>losses -- for details see especially chapter 4.17 in Physical Layer
>Simplified Specification 6.0)

For my raspi-like hosts I avoid to buy A2 cards. With my A1 sdxc cards I
have no problems (neither with a built-in card reader nor an USB card
reader).

Re: question?

[piorunz]

On 27/10/2021 04:19, John Hasler wrote:

Piotr writes:

It already exists - Mobian. I use it on my Pinephone with Debian
Testing.


How do I get it?  The Mobian site says that the PinePhone Mobian
Community Edition is available from Pine64 but I don't see it on their
site.


Pinephone now comes with preinstalled Manjaro I think. It doesn't
matter, Pinephone is totally open and you can install what you want. I
switched few distros before I settled on Mobian+Debian Testing.

1. Buy Pinephone or other supported device [1]
2. Download Mobian [2]
3. Install Mobian on Pinephone or other device [3]

Result: Debian repo + GUI from Mobian. Purest Debian you can get on a phone.

[1] https://wiki.mobian-project.org/doku.php?id=devices
[2] https://images.mobian-project.org/
[3] https://wiki.mobian-project.org/doku.php?id=install

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What is libc5-i686 | lib32gcc1 (proliant package dependencies)

[Alessandro Vesely]

Hi all,

I have a .deb package from HP (hp-health) that has this requirement, and 
doesn't install because of it.  It got damaged somehow during the last 
dist-upgrade.  I think I'd better re-install it.


I have both libc6:i386 and lib32gcc-s1 (on an AMD 64bit machine).
libc6-i686:i386  is tagged 'rc' transitional dummy package.

HP doesn't seem to be inclined to update their support packages.  Should I 
force the install, rebuild the package with a different DEBIAN/control, or 
something else?


BTW, is the latter option just dpkg-deb -R followed by dpkg-deb -b?


Thanks for any hint
Ale
--

Re: question?

[Reco]

Hi.

On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 10:19:05PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Piotr writes:
> > It already exists - Mobian. I use it on my Pinephone with Debian
> > Testing.
> 
> How do I get it?  The Mobian site says that the PinePhone Mobian
> Community Edition is available from Pine64 but I don't see it on their
> site.

The usual place - [1].

Reco

[1] https://linuxtracker.org/browse.php/index.php?page=torrents=2251

Re: What is libc5-i686 | lib32gcc1 (proliant package dependencies)

[The Wanderer]

On 2021-10-27 at 06:57, Alessandro Vesely wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have a .deb package from HP (hp-health) that has this requirement,
> and doesn't install because of it.  It got damaged somehow during the
> last dist-upgrade.  I think I'd better re-install it.
> 
> I have both libc6:i386 and lib32gcc-s1 (on an AMD 64bit machine). 
> libc6-i686:i386  is tagged 'rc' transitional dummy package.

libc6, or libc5? The Subject line says the latter, but AFAIK the latter
hasn't been a thing for Quite A Long While Now (if indeed at all).

What version? On my system (tracking testing+stable), libc6:i386 is
available at versions 2.32-4 and 2.31-13+deb11u2, and neither one of
them is a transitional or a dummy package. I check with 'apt-cache
policy libc6:i386' and then 'apt-cache show libc6:i386'.

The 'rc' tag, as reported by e.g. 'dpkg -l', indicates "this package
used to be installed, but it's been removed, although its configuration
files have been left behind". I believe the 'r' stands for 'removed' and
the 'c' for 'config-files' or similar. So, if that's what you have
showing, then you don't actually have this package installed at the
moment. It seems possible that this might have been what changed during
the dist-upgrade you mentioned.

> HP doesn't seem to be inclined to update their support packages.
> Should I force the install, rebuild the package with a different
> DEBIAN/control, or something else?

If the dependencies actually list a package and version that aren't
available, for something as fundamental as the C library, I wouldn't
expect any good results from overriding the dependencies like that;
there might well be an actual incompatibility, such that at best you'd
get an installed program that wouldn't run.

> BTW, is the latter option just dpkg-deb -R followed by dpkg-deb -b?

That I don't know.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: what is the best package to design the layout of the house

[Reco]

Hi.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 11:34:08AM +0200, lina wrote:
> What is the best/user-friendly package that can be used to design a simple
> house, if it comes with garden design it would be a bonus.

I don't know about garden design, but I used sweethome3d for an
apartment design back in the day.

Written in Java, but works reasonably fast.

Reco

Re: replacement of sqsh for debian 11

[Махно]

Hello. I think sqlite3 is a good alternative.


2021-10-27, tr, 00:55 Michael Castellon  rašė:
>
> replacement of sqsh for debian 11?
>
> thanks.
> regards.

Mobian on Pinephone Was: question?

[John Hasler]

Thanks.  Looks straightforward.  The Mobian site shouldn't still assert
that PinePhone Mobian Community Edition is available, though.
-- 
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j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Samba Won't Mount, Buster to Bullseye migration

[Charles Curley]

On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 16:46:18 +1100
Keith Bainbridge  wrote:

> I've only ever seen the   'noauto'   amongst the uid= gid= options
> 
> 
> Are you sure it should be first item in the entry?

Dratted line wrap. That is in the comment line above the actual entry
line. I put it there to remind me I had taken it out of the actual
entry. Thanks for the catch anyway.

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Re: Looking for a way to cache .deb files downloaded by apt inside sbuild schroot

[Charles Curley]

On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 17:32:21 +0300
Uladzimir Bely  wrote:

> I'm looking for a way to cache the dependencies in form of .deb files
> outside the schroot. So that I could later create a local partial
> debian repo from these .deb files and run sbuild for a second time
> using the same schroot but with local repo for getting dependencies.

Maybe not quite what you are looking for, but consider apt-cacher-ng.
This will put a local cache on your network for all your .deb packages.

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Re: Looking for a way to cache .deb files downloaded by apt inside sbuild schroot

[David Christensen]

On 10/27/21 7:32 AM, Uladzimir Bely wrote:

When sbuild is used to compile a package from sources, some packages (package
dependencies) are internally downloaded and installed in schroot.

I'm looking for a way to cache the dependencies in form of .deb files outside
the schroot. So that I could later create a local partial debian repo from
these .deb files and run sbuild for a second time using the same schroot but
with local repo for getting dependencies.

I tried several options for sbuild (like --purge-build=never, --purge-
deps=never, --purge-session=never), tried to find .deb files during the build
using at some stages (--pre-build-commands="ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/",
--starting-build-commands="ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/", --finished-build-
commands="ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/") - but I couldn't see any .deb
files inside the schroot.



I suggest setting up a VM on the host or LAN with a general-purpose 
package caching proxy server.  In the past, I have used approx:


https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/approx


David

Looking for a way to cache .deb files downloaded by apt inside sbuild schroot

[Uladzimir Bely]

When sbuild is used to compile a package from sources, some packages (package 
dependencies) are internally downloaded and installed in schroot.

I'm looking for a way to cache the dependencies in form of .deb files outside 
the schroot. So that I could later create a local partial debian repo from 
these .deb files and run sbuild for a second time using the same schroot but 
with local repo for getting dependencies.

I tried several options for sbuild (like --purge-build=never, --purge-
deps=never, --purge-session=never), tried to find .deb files during the build 
using at some stages (--pre-build-commands="ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/",  
--starting-build-commands="ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/", --finished-build-
commands="ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/") - but I couldn't see any .deb 
files inside the schroot.

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