Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes Server Load

2003-06-06 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi Scott,

 I see the same (with a very small domain and very light usage).  The mail
 server is nowhere near the strongest, but is sometmies stressed with 1.70
 (and was the same with 1.69b) but not 1.65.

 My recommendation for those that are experiencing this is to try adding a
 line DECODE OFF to the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file, and see if this
 takes care of the problem.  There were some base64 and HTML decoding
 functions added since 1.65, which use more CPU time than most Declude
 JunkMail functionality.  They can be disabled with the DECODE OFF line.

Well as you can read in another mail I went back to 1.65 first. This server
has been running normally for several hours however I also went back
from daisychaining to normal IpSwitch smtp32. If it all runs stable today
then tonight I'll enable daisychaining again to make sure attachments via
the webinterface get scanned. If all still runs normal on tuesday (monday is
a holiday overhere) then I'll go bacl to 1.70 and see if the problem returs.
If it does I'll enable the DECODE OFF option te see if that solves the
problem.

 I'm also going to investigate the changes to the ip4r tests, to see if
that
 may be the root of the problem.  It *shouldn't* be, but then again there
 isn't anything in Declude JunkMail that *should* cause 100% CPU usage.  :)

Right, this setup has been rocksolid for two years so if it realy has been
Declude which was responsible, then that's a first. ;-)

Met vriendelijke groet,

Bonno Bloksma

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Here two big international ones:

t-online.de t-online.com
wanadoo.fr


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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Here is my list thus far:

amazon.com
aol.com
apple.com
att.
attbi.com
bellsouth.net
charter.net
comcast.
compuserve.com
cox.
earthlink.
excite.com
gte.
hotmail.com
juno.com  .untd.com
lycos.com
microsoft.com
mindspring.
msn.com   .hotmail.com
netscape.
psi.
qwest.
.rr.com
verio.
verizon.  .bellatlantic.
yahoo.com

Bill
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 If someone has a comprehensive spamdomains listing they are happy 
 with,could they post it for others to analyze/use?

 At 10:36 AM 5/30/2003, Bill Landry wrote:

 One comment.  Instead of having:
 
 yahoo.com
 yahoo.ca yahoo.com
 yahoo.de yahoo.com
 yahoo.dk yahoo.com
 yahoo.es yahoo.com
 yahoo.fr yahoo.com
 yahoo.it yahoo.com
 yahoo.no yahoo.com
 yahoo.se yahoo.com
 yahoo.co.jp yahoo.com
 yahoo.co.uk yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.ar yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.au yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.br yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.cn yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.hk yahoo.com
 yahoo.co.kr yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.mx yahoo.com
 yahoo.com.tw yahoo.com
 
 Why not just consolidate this down to:
 
 yahoo.yahoo.com
 
 Bill
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   Attached is a list of spamdomains and their coresponding aliases 
   that
I've
 compiled thus far.  Anybody want to comment or expand upon this?
  
   Bill
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] just what is scanned for country????

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

I must be missing something here Scott, I thought Declude used the info 
from the X-DECLUDE SENDER line for it's info, address, IP.
Correct.

Unless you specify a HOP correct?
No matter what settings you use (HOP, HOPHIGH, IPBYPASS), Declude JunkMail 
will use the information from the X-Declude-Sender: header for filtering 
based on the IP and HELO/EHLO.

So the reason for this question is ours is set as HOP 0. Now, a mail to 
the imail list last night was triggering the COUNTRY test. The IP I'm 
assuming it went with was the one that connected to Ipswitch's server 
here's the headers for the mail:
How is your COUNTRY test set up?  Is it set up as a filter?  If so, what do 
the line(s) in the filter look like?

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[Declude.JunkMail] More Spam Tests?

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

This tool did some filtering that may be of interest to you?

*  3.5 -- Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook
*  0.5 -- Message has X-MSMail-Priority, but no X-MimeOLE

I'm enclosing the header and their entire assessment of this message (it
had a fake sender, so the bounce got back to me).

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes Server Load

2003-06-06 Thread Rick Davidson
I have been experiencing high CPU loads lately as well, I reverted back to
the release 1.65 but it is still doing it. I do not believe it is a declude
issue.

I dont know if this is related, maybe someone can explain
here is what I am seeing when i do a netstat at the command prompt

62.145.51.3:59511  TIME_WAIT
62.175.27.221:1327 TIME_WAIT
62.175.27.221:1363 TIME_WAIT
62.175.27.221:1386 TIME_WAIT
62.175.27.221:1387 TIME_WAIT

210.22.204.55:25452TIME_WAIT
210.22.204.55:37665TIME_WAIT
210.83.133.50:3969 TIME_WAIT
210.103.68.2:1219  TIME_WAIT
210.103.68.2:4735  TIME_WAIT
210.117.98.25:2135 TIME_WAIT

This is always going on during the CPU spikes
They always step sequentially through the class A range
These IP addresses are all sending spam

Is this some new kind of spam method?

I am seeing SPAM from ALOT of different IP address but each address is
sending reletively small amounts of spam.

As an experiment I blocked several class A's from apnic at the router level
and my CPU troubles diminished as I blocked networks exibiting the above
behavior.

Rick Davidson
Buckeye Internet Inc
www.buckeyeweb.com
440-953-1900 ext: 222

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Markus Gufler
Thanks Andy.

Here I've some spamdomains for those who has italian domains on the
server:

tiscali.it  tiscalinet.it
tiscalinet.it   tiscali.it
tin.it  fep0
libero.it   tin.it
virgilio.it tin.it
iol.it  libero.it
supereva.it
freemail.it supereva.it
cicciociccio.it supereva.it
mybox.itsupereva.it
email.itwebmessenger.it


Here I've also a question:

It seems that legit mails with senderadresses containing @tin.it can be
delivered from smtp-servers with the following revdns records:

Tin.it
Tuttopmi.it
Flexmail.it

Because both tuttopmi.it and flexmail.it has hostnames beginning with
fep0x. I've added this as valid alias for tin.it

Will this work?

Markus





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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 6:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list
 
 
 Here two big international ones:
 
 t-online.de   t-online.com
 wanadoo.fr
 
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 HM Systems Software, Inc.
 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 http://www.HM-Software.com/
 
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 01:16 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list
 
 
 Here is my list thus far:
 
 amazon.com
 aol.com
 apple.com
 att.
 attbi.com
 bellsouth.net
 charter.net
 comcast.
 compuserve.com
 cox.
 earthlink.
 excite.com
 gte.
 hotmail.com
 juno.com  .untd.com
 lycos.com
 microsoft.com
 mindspring.
 msn.com   .hotmail.com
 netscape.
 psi.
 qwest.
 .rr.com
 verio.
 verizon.  .bellatlantic.
 yahoo.com
 
 Bill
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 From: Scott MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list
 
 
  If someone has a comprehensive spamdomains listing they are happy
  with,could they post it for others to analyze/use?
 
  At 10:36 AM 5/30/2003, Bill Landry wrote:
 
  One comment.  Instead of having:
  
  yahoo.com
  yahoo.ca yahoo.com
  yahoo.de yahoo.com
  yahoo.dk yahoo.com
  yahoo.es yahoo.com
  yahoo.fr yahoo.com
  yahoo.it yahoo.com
  yahoo.no yahoo.com
  yahoo.se yahoo.com
  yahoo.co.jp yahoo.com
  yahoo.co.uk yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.ar yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.au yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.br yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.cn yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.hk yahoo.com
  yahoo.co.kr yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.mx yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.tw yahoo.com
  
  Why not just consolidate this down to:
  
  yahoo.yahoo.com
  
  Bill
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Attached is a list of spamdomains and their coresponding aliases
that
 I've
  compiled thus far.  Anybody want to comment or expand upon this?
   
Bill
   
   
   
   
  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes Server Load

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

I dont know if this is related, maybe someone can explain
here is what I am seeing when i do a netstat at the command prompt
62.145.51.3:59511  TIME_WAIT
That just means that the IP 62.145.51.3 connected to your (from port 59511 
on their side).  The TIME_WAIT is there because the TCP/IP stack is 
required to keep the information on the connection for a few minutes.  This 
does not indicate any problems.

If you see a lot of these, it would just mean that there were a lot of 
recent connections to your mailserver.

I am seeing SPAM from ALOT of different IP address but each address is
sending reletively small amounts of spam.
That isn't unusual -- spammers will often send from lots of different IPs 
(using compromised servers, or sometimes just lots of open proxies or open 
relays).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Adding Weight for a particular mailbox

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

I think the answer is no, but with Junkmail standard 1.7, can I add weight
when the mail comes to a particular user / mailbox?
I have some infrequently used, but legitmate, e-mail addresses.  If
something comes to one of them, it is higher likelihood to be unsolicited,
but not for certain.
And, I believe the answer is yes if using Junkmail Pro, correct?
You are correct.  The filtering in the Pro version would be able to add a 
weight in this case, but it is not available in Declude JunkMail Standard.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Adding Weight for a particular mailbox

2003-06-06 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi..

I think the answer is YES.. You need the pro because Pro supports filters.

We do exactly what you want to do.  We have a filter file we call
X_Employees.  This list are employees long gone but their email is
apparently still being sold.  Their mailboxes are deleted but what we know
is if their address is listed in the CC or as part of the recipient then it
has to be spam.

What you can do is:

ALLRECIPS   0   CONTAINS[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can add weight to this inclusion in the recipient address.

Hope this helps.. 

Regards,
Kami

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Adding Weight for a particular mailbox


Hi

I think the answer is no, but with Junkmail standard 1.7, can I add weight
when the mail comes to a particular user / mailbox?

I have some infrequently used, but legitmate, e-mail addresses.  If
something comes to one of them, it is higher likelihood to be unsolicited,
but not for certain.

And, I believe the answer is yes if using Junkmail Pro, correct?

Thanks,

Rob

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Queue size quota\alert

2003-06-06 Thread Charles Frolick
I built a simple VBScript for alerting if mail gets held in the Hijack
hold folders, it wouldn't take much to make it alert if number of Q
files in Overflow exceeds a threshhold or if any files exist at all.  It
is available at http://spamreview.argolink.net/software, called the
Hijack Held Notifier.  It shouldn't require any aditional software to
run, just a little editing of variables, I could even help if you need
it.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Queue size quota\alert


One of the nice features of Declude is the overflow queue which helps
Imail 7.x to not trip on itself as frequently.  From my testing, the
only time the overflow queue gets activity is when either a dictionary
attack, mail loop, dns issue or spam flood is occurring(because the
number of processes hits a threshold, I'm guessing).  So, this has
become a great way to gauge when an Imail server is having overload
issues.  I'm looking for a very easy, efficient way to monitor the size
of the overflow directory(on NT4) and then take an action, like sending
an alert, if the file grows an x amount over an x time period.  I have
found a few shareware proggies that can do this but before I commence
testing, I figured I'd ask the experts.  Has anyone fiddled with this
concept yet?  If so would you care to share your experience\suggestion?


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Dan Patnode
Markus,

I've been giving the subject of @'s in spamdomain tests some thought.  With the 
original one column test, there was no way an @ was going to be in the RDNS so using 
it meant automatic failure.  With the new two column format, this should now work:


@tin.itTin.it
@tin.itTuttopmi.it
@tin.itFlexmail.it


The only drawback is that this is not as flexible (forgiving) as say

Tin.it   Tuttopmi.it


Scott, would you confirm?

Dan



On Thursday, June 5, 2003 9:41, Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Andy.

Here I've some spamdomains for those who has italian domains on the
server:

tiscali.it tiscalinet.it
tiscalinet.it  tiscali.it
tin.it fep0
libero.it  tin.it
virgilio.ittin.it
iol.it libero.it
supereva.it
freemail.itsupereva.it
cicciociccio.itsupereva.it
mybox.it   supereva.it
email.it   webmessenger.it


Here I've also a question:

It seems that legit mails with senderadresses containing @tin.it can be
delivered from smtp-servers with the following revdns records:

Tin.it
Tuttopmi.it
Flexmail.it

Because both tuttopmi.it and flexmail.it has hostnames beginning with
fep0x. I've added this as valid alias for tin.it

Will this work?

Markus





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 6:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list
 
 
 Here two big international ones:
 
 t-online.de  t-online.com
 wanadoo.fr
 
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 HM Systems Software, Inc.
 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 http://www.HM-Software.com/
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 01:16 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list
 
 
 Here is my list thus far:
 
 amazon.com
 aol.com
 apple.com
 att.
 attbi.com
 bellsouth.net
 charter.net
 comcast.
 compuserve.com
 cox.
 earthlink.
 excite.com
 gte.
 hotmail.com
 juno.com  .untd.com
 lycos.com
 microsoft.com
 mindspring.
 msn.com   .hotmail.com
 netscape.
 psi.
 qwest.
 .rr.com
 verio.
 verizon.  .bellatlantic.
 yahoo.com
 
 Bill
 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list
 
 
  If someone has a comprehensive spamdomains listing they are happy
  with,could they post it for others to analyze/use?
 
  At 10:36 AM 5/30/2003, Bill Landry wrote:
 
  One comment.  Instead of having:
  
  yahoo.com
  yahoo.ca yahoo.com
  yahoo.de yahoo.com
  yahoo.dk yahoo.com
  yahoo.es yahoo.com
  yahoo.fr yahoo.com
  yahoo.it yahoo.com
  yahoo.no yahoo.com
  yahoo.se yahoo.com
  yahoo.co.jp yahoo.com
  yahoo.co.uk yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.ar yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.au yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.br yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.cn yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.hk yahoo.com
  yahoo.co.kr yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.mx yahoo.com
  yahoo.com.tw yahoo.com
  
  Why not just consolidate this down to:
  
  yahoo.yahoo.com
  
  Bill
  - Original Message -
  From: Bill B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:20 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list
  
  
Attached is a list of spamdomains and their coresponding aliases
that
 I've
  compiled thus far.  Anybody want to comment or expand upon this?
   
Bill
   
   
   
   
  
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[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Add-on

2003-06-06 Thread Paul Navarre
I had a situation today that has made me consider the whitelist add-on that I have 
seen discussed
here. With the archive down, I am not sure what the name of it is or where to go for 
more
information. Could someone send that information to me please ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Is it just me or does it seem that major ISPs are being listed in more and more spam 
databases? I
had a customer have his rather important incoming email get autodeleted because it 
reached a score
of 31 on a system of 10+ hold and 30+ delete. btinternet.com (British Telecom) is 
listed in about 10
spam databases. It seems more and more I have to give major ISPs huge negetive 
weights, and I seem
to have to constantly make them more and more negetive to keep up. Then more and more 
spam gets
through. From my perspective this trend is becoming counter productive; the spam 
databases are
unrealistic to use individually; even with Declude's superb weighting system things 
are getting more
difficult.

Scott, do you have an opinion about the whitelist add-on? The idea of keeping track of 
who are
customers are sending email to and then having them whitelisted sounds interesting, 
but I want to
know if there are any reasons why this might cause problems.

Thanks,

Paul Navarre

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Add-on

2003-06-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 I had a situation today that has made me consider the whitelist add-on
that I have
 seen discussed
 here. With the archive down, I am not sure what the name of it is or where
to go for
 more
 information. Could someone send that information to me please
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

AutoWhite for Declude.

www.eservicesforyou.com/products/autowhite.html

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
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[Declude.JunkMail] .biz

2003-06-06 Thread Dan Patnode
I take back what I said, I do have a low weighted test for .biz based links:


BODY0   CONTAINS.biz/


Dan

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Add-on

2003-06-06 Thread Robert Grosshandler
We use it, we love it.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Apparent Problem with REVDNS Filter in Version 1.70i2

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott:

Here are three relevant lines of the WEIGHTFILTER.TXT:

#16:
#17:REVDNS   4  ENDSWITH.in-addr.arpa
#18:

DNSStuff reports a valid REVDNS:
12.29.228.5 PTR record: oldtfw04.pearsontc.com. [TTL 86400s] [A=12.29.228.5]

Yet, the mail failed WEIGHTFILTER at line 17.

See the log filter - the ONLY place where I see the string in-addr.arpa is
in your ID: field - behind some apparent garbled caharacters.  Is there a
problem with the REVDNS ENDSWITH filter, e.g., some buffer overrun?

06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 HELOBOGUS:3 HEUR10:4 WEIGHTFILTER:4 .
Total weight = 11
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Msg failed HELOBOGUS (Domain
oldtms705.pearsontc.com has no MX or A records.). Action=WARN.
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Msg failed HEUR10 (Heuristic spam
detection level 10 [1.00]). Action=IGNORE.
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Msg failed WEIGHTFILTER (Message
failed WEIGHTFILTER test (17)). Action=IGNORE.
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Msg failed WEIGHTREPORT (Total weight
between 11 and 15.). Action=ALERT.
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Total weight
between 10 and 19.). Action=SUBJECT.
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 Subject: Screen shots: Merrill Lynch
store
06/05/2003 17:51:09 Qbb4535320128b6b9 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 12.29.228.5 ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]5.228.29.12.in-addr.arpa


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: The Titian Key Product to Remove Spam.. patent pending?

2003-06-06 Thread Eddie Pang



FWIW..

Looks like a 
variation of a mail gateway at a cost of $1000.00 per month!

http://www.titankey.com/features.asp

eddie 
:)


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOP setting

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

I just want to double check on this.  I have setup an IMGATE box to be in
front of imail/declude, and it sends/receives on their behalf.
What I did in global.cfg file, is change HOP 0 to HOP 1 , correct? Anything
else I need to worry about?
You *can* do that.  But *only* if every single E-mail will come from the 
IMGate server (or some other server of yours).

If there's a chance that E-mail may come directly from the Internet, it 
would be safer to use IPBYPASS, which will let Declude know which 
mailservers are yours (and therefore should be bypassed for the scanning).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Request for new/enhanced feature

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

I keep getting mail that slipps through that IMO shouldn't be that
hard to catch really...
G

They use a variant of the html comments but
the way they do it it don't get detected as a mail with to many html
comments.
Correct.  Because if Declude JunkMail were count all the HTML tags, then 
all that Microsoft Word E-mail Garbage (those one line E-mails that turn 
into 10K E-mails) would get caught, and a lot of other legitimate HTML 
E-mail would get caught, too.

Below is a snippet of example text inside the html formated e-mail :

Pk73ch7b1tddyenkqjezab3w79ejis 
Enkpv36t91gfs2largktwn2sd3kn7tqemek63uv4i3njxxcnt 
Pikxl9qjl2r3ervkll On The 
Mak9jgo17u5v244rkekth2amv3m1st!/font/font/font/bfont 
face=Arial,Helvetica/font
pfont face=Arial,Helvetica* Gksfvuh135aju042aikndkb4w1ppwy192n 
3kbq72kb2dv2xsd2+ Full Inkn46ft9yw8pchkwhb2wy27wls3es In 
Lengka4vte11x26Lengka4vte11x26wth/font
brfont face=Arial,Helvetica* Exkcay5sz12le0pand Your 
Pekt70s753udaio49nis Up To 20kh3tfh82ejp1%

Basically remove the x junk and you get the text.
That's exactly what the latest beta version does, so you can filter on it.

Since these are invalid html comments most e-mail clients just simply 
ignore the
comment text all together since it has the  around the text.
Technically, these aren't invalid HTML comments, they are made-up HTML tags 
(which could be valid in the future).  That's the problem.  The only way to 
tell whether a tag is valid or not is to have a database of valid tags, 
which would be very expensive (CPU time, storage space, man-hours to gather 
the data and update it, false positives, etc.).  If I recall correctly, 
HTML isn't even covered by the RFCs, which makes it more difficult to 
assess the tags.

IMO this should also have failed HTMLCOMMENTS  which it did not.
So my question.. Would it be possible to add the above junk as
detected html comment ?
In this case, we could say OK, 'k73ch7b1tddy' is a bogus HTML tag.  And 
'ksfvuh135aju042' is a bogus HTML tag.  And..., but a spammer could get 
around that simply by making another fake tag.

So the only alternatives seem to be either [1] Count all HTML tags and 
catch legitimate E-mail, or [2] Keep a database of HTML tags.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Request for new/enhanced feature

2003-06-06 Thread Smart Business Lists

Thursday, June 5, 2003 you wrote:
EG should also have failed HTMLCOMMENTS

But those aren't html comments as far as I know.



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Virus and Spam checking order

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

This morning, while going through the email holds, I noticed an email with an
attachment that was 99K... the typical size of infected Bugbear virus 
emails.
So luckily we didn't send it through...

According to the docs (and my boss), the virus scanner should be picking 
up any
messages before it gets detected as spam.  However, this time it looks 
like it
didn't happen.  Is there any known reason for this?  Or are the docs wrong?
Does a message get detected as spam first and then is checked for virii?
Declude Virus will run before Declude JunkMail -- except if you use an 
AVAFTERJM option in your virus.cfg file.

If you check the time/date of the E-mail that was held, you'll probably see 
that it was held before the virus definitions were updated to be able to 
catch that variant of Bugbear.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Virus and Spam checking order

2003-06-06 Thread James Young
 Declude Virus will run before Declude JunkMail -- except if you use an 
 AVAFTERJM option in your virus.cfg file.

I've checked our config file and we're not using the option.

 If you check the time/date of the E-mail that was held, you'll probably see 
 that it was held before the virus definitions were updated to be able to 
 catch that variant of Bugbear.

The odd thing is that the extension was Resume.doc.pif.  We have pif as one of 
our BANEXT options, so really Declude Virus should have picked up the .pif and 
automatically quarantined it.  Whether or not it was updated to detect any new 
variant of Bugbear (is there a new variant out there now?), it should have 
moved the email to our virus folder.

James Alan Young
Assistant Network Administrator
D.Armstrong Moving  Storage Ltd.


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Virus and Spam checking order

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

The odd thing is that the extension was Resume.doc.pif.  We have pif as 
one of
our BANEXT options, so really Declude Virus should have picked up the .pif 
and
automatically quarantined it.  Whether or not it was updated to detect any 
new
variant of Bugbear (is there a new variant out there now?), it should have
moved the email to our virus folder.
Could you E-mail me your \IMail\Declude\virus.cfg file, and the Declude 
Virus log file for the day the file was caught by Declude JunkMail (along 
with the spool file name)?
   -Scott

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RE: Spam Alert: [Declude.JunkMail] For real?

2003-06-06 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
I'm sure there are a couple friends that you could contact on IRC and just
see how HACKER-PROOF their system truly are.  hahaha

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Fahey
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Spam Alert: [Declude.JunkMail] For real?


Declude blocked this (thankfully) but because it's so blatant, I went ahead
and read it... had to check my blood pressure afterwards. It got me thinking
though - would a real spammer send this out or was it the work of a
vigilante. The rest of the e-mail posts phone numbers, cell phones, business
addresses, web sites a lot of contact info.

 BEGIN SPAM PITCH 

Welcome to the 2nd Edition of the Efficient Systems Money Making Newsletter
- (And please pass this e-mail along to any interested friends  associates
who are looking to make THOUSANDS per day doing BULK E-MAIL!)

My name is Richard Schuler, I'm a 23 year old Multi-Millionare and I'm
inviting you to Learn How to Spam Millions of People Per Day like I do. My
Online Pharmacy Business is the single largest E-mail marketing company in
the world today. Efficient Systems of Dania, Florida proudly sends OVER 600
MILLION SPAM E-MAILS per day, every single day, through a rapidly growing
network of saavy and aggressive worldwide marketing partners and our rapidly
growing in-house e-mail marketing team to play an agressive, currently $60
Million dollars per year numbers game. We are directly responsible for up
to 70% of the online Viagra and Pharmacy E-Mail SPAM generated sales on the
net today and by far the largest E-Mail Marketing operation of this kind in
the world, bar none! When it comes to numbers, ours are DEFINATELY the
HIGHEST!

Why are we so successful?? 1. Because, simply put, NO ONE can bring us down!
And 2. Because we KICK ASS with Our HACKER-PROOF and ANTI-SPAMMER-PROOF
sales websites and because when you get right down to it, PEOPLE ARE LIKE
SHEEP, and if the sheep get enough e-mail shoved at them, the sheep WILL
become customers! It's that simple and it's the key to our success and the
prosperity of our partners! We've just kicked off a drive to recruit
THOUSANDS of new sales partners and affiliates. Some of our largest Spammers
are being paid $55,000 per week! Contact us and JOIN US NOW!

...remainder of spam truncated.

 END SPAM PITCH 

Ready to Get Started and Start Sending Lots of E-Mail For Us??

Call or E-Mail me NOW!
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Sincerely,

Richard Schuler
E-Mail me by Clicking HERE
My Personal Phone numbers are:
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954-650-3364
 Get Your Private Website NOW and start getting the E-MAIL out!

Contact: Angelo


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Land: 1-800-879-6704
Cell: 954-993-5731


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Virus and Spam checking order

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

We've recently been having a lot of Bugbear virus emails hitting our virus
scanner.  We've done a lot of scanning for the virus on our workstations and
servers and so far we're clean (except for the ones that Declude pick up).
This morning, while going through the email holds, I noticed an email with an
attachment that was 99K... the typical size of infected Bugbear virus 
emails.
So luckily we didn't send it through...
This turns out to have been a very unusual malformed E-mail.  Specifically, 
it had a malformed uuencoded segment, which never ended -- but a new MIME 
boundary appeared within uuencoded segment, where the virus was 
hiding.  I'm not sure how a mail client would handle this.  I'm guessing 
this format is very rare, as it appears that the virus inserted several 
lines from a legitimate E-mail into itself, so this would only be possible 
if the person with the virus already had an E-mail with a uuencoded segment 
in it (they aren't common anymore).

In any case, there is a new interim release of Declude Virus (1.70i4) at 
http://www.declude.com/release/170i/declude.exe that will now detect this 
situation.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist False Positive Tests

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

Any ideas why would the following email headed be caught by my blacklist file?

GLOBAL file:

BLACKLIST   fromfile d:\imail\Declude\blacklist.txt 
x 8  0
This is a sender blacklist, which checks the return address of the 
E-mail.  However, the headers that you supplied do not include the return 
address of the E-mail -- you can find it either in an X-Declude-Sender: 
header, or the IMail SMTP log file (in the MAIL FROM line).

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[Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist False Positive Tests

2003-06-06 Thread Todd Smith @ Teksolvers








Scott,



Any ideas why would the following email
headed be caught by my blacklist file?



GLOBAL file:



BLACKLIST  fromfile
d:\imail\Declude\blacklist.txt x  8
 0



BLACKLIST ROUTETO
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Our BLACKLIST file does not include any
part of boyddev.com or networkorlando.com



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(SMTPD32-7.13) id AF972E0138; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:13:27 -0400
Received: from WKS04 (unknown [10.0.0.65])
by mail.networkorlando.com (Postfix on SuSE Linux eMail Server 3.1) with ESMTP
id A019F37DE6
for [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Fri,6 Jun 2003 10:18:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Paige Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Randy Hodge (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Curry Ford / Alafaya
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:11:04 -0400
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
Importance: Normal
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BLACKLIST
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: R
X-UIDL: 354877806 





Thanks,

Todd Smith
Teksolvers, LLC
1077 Glenharbor
  Circle
Winter Garden, FL 34787
Phone407-877-8450
Fax
 407-877-8451










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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist False Positive Tests

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

SMTP Imail log:

06:06 11:13 SMTPD(007A0120) [209.26.230.188] MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(008B009A) [209.26.230.188] MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(0051014C) [209.26.230.188] MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(00290138) [209.26.230.188] MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unfortunately, I can't tell you which of these four E-mails is the one you 
posted.

I would recommend using the XSENDER ON and XSPOOLNAME ON options in the 
global.cfg file, which makes it much easier to get the information you need.

Any ideas?
You could send me your blacklist.txt file?

Also, What is the difference within the blacklist.txt file contain
entries that begin with a period (.junkmail.com), @ (@junkmail.com), or
just blank (junkmail.com)
They all work the same -- Declude JunkMail checks to see if the sender has 
whatever you list in their return address.  So @example.com which catch 
any E-mail from @example.com, .example.com would catch any E-mail from 
@*.example.com, and example.com would catch both @example.com and 
@*.example.com as well as @not_an_example.com.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist False Positive Tests

2003-06-06 Thread Todd Smith @ Teksolvers
Thanks for the fast response!

Here is the declude log for the email in question:

06/06/2003 11:13:28 Qaf97002e0138490a Msg failed MX; testing A
(mail.networkorlando.com) [1 1 0 ]
06/06/2003 11:13:28 Qaf97002e0138490a BLACKLIST:8 .  Total weight = 8
06/06/2003 11:13:28 Qaf97002e0138490a Using [incoming] CFG file
d:\IMail\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
06/06/2003 11:13:28 Qaf97002e0138490a Msg failed BLACKLIST ().
06/06/2003 11:13:28 Qaf97002e0138490a Subject: Curry Ford / Alafaya
06/06/2003 11:13:28 Qaf97002e0138490a From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

SMTP Imail log:

06:06 11:13 SMTPD(007A0120) [209.26.230.188] HELO
mail.networkorlando.com
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(008B009A) [209.26.230.188] HELO
mail.networkorlando.com
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(00290138) [209.26.230.188] HELO
mail.networkorlando.com
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(0051014C) [209.26.230.188] HELO
mail.networkorlando.com
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(007A0120) [209.26.230.188] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(008B009A) [209.26.230.188] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(007A0120) [209.26.230.188] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(0051014C) [209.26.230.188] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(008B009A) [209.26.230.188] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(0051014C) [209.26.230.188] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(007A0120) [209.26.230.188]
d:\IMail\spool\Daf7e007a0120e7fe.SMD 1775
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(008B009A) [209.26.230.188]
d:\IMail\spool\Daf7f008b009ae80e.SMD 1396
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(0051014C) [209.26.230.188]
d:\IMail\spool\Daf7f0051014ce83c.SMD 1186
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0464) processing
d:\IMail\spool\Qaf7f0051014ce83c.SMD
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0F20) processing
d:\IMail\spool\Qaf7f008b009ae80e.SMD
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0464) ldeliver teksolvers.com blacklist-main (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1299
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0464) finished
d:\IMail\spool\Qaf7f0051014ce83c.SMD status=1
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0F20) ldeliver teksolvers.com blacklist-main (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1509
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0F20) finished
d:\IMail\spool\Qaf7f008b009ae80e.SMD status=1
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0FA8) processing
d:\IMail\spool\Qaf7e007a0120e7fe.SMD
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0FA8) ldeliver teksolvers.com blacklist-main (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1888
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0FA8) finished
d:\IMail\spool\Qaf7e007a0120e7fe.SMD status=1
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(00290138) [209.26.230.188] MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(00290138) [209.26.230.188] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(00290138) [209.26.230.188]
d:\IMail\spool\Daf8400290138fb96.SMD 9563
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0ED0) processing
d:\IMail\spool\Qaf8400290138fb96.SMD
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0ED0) ldeliver teksolvers.com blacklist-main (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 9676
06:06 11:13 SMTP-(0ED0) finished
d:\IMail\spool\Qaf8400290138fb96.SMD status=1

Any ideas?

The entire email header was sent over and there was no X-Declude-Sender.

Also, What is the difference within the blacklist.txt file contain
entries that begin with a period (.junkmail.com), @ (@junkmail.com), or
just blank (junkmail.com)

Maybe there is something wrong with my file.

Thanks


 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist False Positive Tests


Any ideas why would the following email headed be caught by my
blacklist file?

GLOBAL file:

BLACKLIST   fromfile d:\imail\Declude\blacklist.txt 
x 8  0

This is a sender blacklist, which checks the return address of the 
E-mail.  However, the headers that you supplied do not include the
return 
address of the E-mail -- you can find it either in an X-Declude-Sender: 
header, or the IMail SMTP log file (in the MAIL FROM line).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help!

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

Just upgraded and all my emails are getting stuck in the Spool directory and
not getting delivered.
Any thoughts??? Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What do the logs shows?

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FW: [Declude.JunkMail] Help!

2003-06-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
What do the logs say?

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Forsyth
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:36 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help!
 
  In any case, there is a new interim release of Declude Virus (1.70i4) at
  http://www.declude.com/release/170i/declude.exe that will now detect
this
  situation.
 
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 Just upgraded and all my emails are getting stuck in the Spool directory
and
 not getting delivered.
 
 Any thoughts??? Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Thanks
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-06 Thread Madscientist
Wouldn't it make sense to follow this logic...

Do the positive weight tests (black tests) first in highest to lowest
weight order.

If the action threshold is reached then skip to the negative weight
tests (white tests) in the same order but keep your place so you can
resume if needed.

If a negative weight test drops the weight below the action threshold
then bounce back to the positive list and continue where you left off
until you finish or break the threshold again.

Allow the system to bounce between black and white tests until the value
stabilizes.

Also include the optimization rule that the white tests never get run or
resume if either the current weight is below the action threshold or the
sum of the remaining tests would be insufficient to force it back across
the threshold.

Include a similar rule for the black tests.

The result will be a system that adapts to the tests that are available
in real time, only running the tests required to produce a determinate
result.

This is based on self organizing automata principles. It allows the
population of tests to interact with eachother and reach a stable
equilibrium in their environment (a determinate result) even when the
population of active tests is unknown before each instance of run time.

It sounds more complicated than it is.

_M

PS: In declude there is a wrinkle with this methodology. Since all DNS
based tests are fired at once up front there is no obvious way to
resolve the ordering of these tests... but this _might_ be solved by
recognizing that most DNS interactions are UDP based... so it would be
possible (and relatively inexpensive) to launch the queries for all of
the potential DNS based tests up front, but to reserve the evaluation of
each result in the appropriate order... if the system reached a state
where the some of these tests were not going to be evaluated then those
threads would simply die with no harm. Only Scott knows how his code is
structured so this may or many not be an easy thing to do. I'm presuming
it would be easy if each test were fired in it's own thread since that
thread would spend most of it's time waiting (sleeping) for a response
and the evaluation of that response could be encapsulated in a result
check method for the test.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
Tolmachoff (Lists)
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 2:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.


 Forgive the intrusion (I just troll here, don't actually have JM 
 yet), but this idea seems flawed.  If you quit testing once a 
 certain weight has been reached, wouldn't you cut off 
further testing 
 that might reduce that weight?  In a system where a score can go up 
 and down depending on the test, unless there is a way to order the 
 tests so negative weighted tests are run first, I'd think that all 
 tests must be accounted for.

Welcome Kurt. Yes, I agree with you. That is way I have stated 
my hesitation at having this available, either as an option or feature.

The weighting system is the weighting system and should be 
allowed to work in its entirety.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: The Titian Key Product to Remove Spam.. patent pending?

2003-06-06 Thread Charles Frolick
If you read the article they link to, it is a combination of challenge
response and virtual addresses, complete with the problems of not one,
but both anti-spam systems.  They did do some interesting things, but
still seems like more work to deal with than most users will tolerate
over the long haul.
 
Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: The Titian Key Product to Remove
Spam.. patent pending?


But wait, there's more!!!  If you order today, we will include
absolutely free.the amazing Ginzu SPAM knife.  It never needs sharpening
and can slice the fat off your SPAM messages just as easy as that!  It
slices.it dices.it even makes julienne fries!!
 
Blah, blah, blah Ginger.
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eddie Pang
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:09 AM
To: Declude. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: The Titian Key Product to Remove Spam..
patent pending?
 
FWIW..
 
Looks like a variation of a mail gateway at a cost of $1000.00 per
month!
 
http://www.titankey.com/features.asp 
 
eddie :)


[Declude.JunkMail] Country filter?

2003-06-06 Thread Doug Bevins
I know this was covered some time ago but I can't get into the archives. How
do I set up the country filter? Like any other filter test, referring to a
text file with country codes?

Thanks,

Doug Bevins, Record-Journal, Meriden, CT

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country filter?

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

I know this was covered some time ago but I can't get into the archives. How
do I set up the country filter? Like any other filter test, referring to a
text file with country codes?
You'll need to wait for the archives to be available again for this 
one.  It is very complex, as it involves the geolocation (converting IPs 
into countries), which requires a separate file.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From Declude.JunkMail-owner@declude.com?

2003-06-06 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
A little less than 1/2 hour I received a message in my inbox which purported
to be from Declude.com.  Here is the full message (the 's are mine)...



Received: from declude.com [66.189.124.29] by NexusTechGroup.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-6.06) id A33F67FC0114; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:45:35 -0400
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for
spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS [5]

This E-mail is scanned and free from viruses. www.nexustechgroup.com
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri,  6 Jun 2003 13:45:42 -0400
X-UIDL: 354754410
Status: U
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



As you can see there's not much to it.  Did anyone else receive this
message?  Was this message actually sent from Declude?  Or was it a misfire
in an impending attempt to use the good name of Declude.com to slip through
people's spam filtering?

Just curious.  It seemed like a very odd message to me.

Thanks, Much!
Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

Do the positive weight tests (black tests) first in highest to lowest
weight order.
I'll just comment here before this goes too far.

It is very unlikely that we will rearrange the order that the tests are run 
it, as many of them must be run at a certain point, and there are several 
cases where multiple tests are run in parallel.

Given that performance is rarely an issue with Declude JunkMail (except for 
the one potential issue with the latest beta), it doesn't seem likely that 
the benefits of having variable test orders would outweigh what it takes to 
do it.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From Declude.JunkMail-owner@declude.com?

2003-06-06 Thread Bill Landry
I got it, as well.  It was sent from cpe-66-189-124-29.ma.charter.com, which
is the IP address that the Declude lists are hosted on, so it looks like it
was just a misfire, although it is strange that it did not come in with
any of the Declude subject lines and shows undisclosed-recipients: in the
To field.  Maybe a listserv hiccup...?

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude JunkMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:15 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hello, All,
 A little less than 1/2 hour I received a message in my inbox which
purported
 to be from Declude.com.  Here is the full message (the 's are mine)...

 

 Received: from declude.com [66.189.124.29] by NexusTechGroup.com with
ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-6.06) id A33F67FC0114; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:45:35 -0400
 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]
 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for
 spam.
 X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS [5]
 
 This E-mail is scanned and free from viruses. www.nexustechgroup.com
 X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri,  6 Jun 2003 13:45:42 -0400
 X-UIDL: 354754410
 Status: U
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 As you can see there's not much to it.  Did anyone else receive this
 message?  Was this message actually sent from Declude?  Or was it a
misfire
 in an impending attempt to use the good name of Declude.com to slip
through
 people's spam filtering?

 Just curious.  It seemed like a very odd message to me.

 Thanks, Much!
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From Declude.JunkMail-owner@declude.com?

2003-06-06 Thread Glenn \\ WCNet
I got the same thing a few mins ago.  Blank message, no body text.
From:  Sender Unspecified
Date:  Friday, June 6, 2003 12:49 PM
To:  none
Subject:  [No subject]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Geiser 
  To: Declude JunkMail 
  Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:15 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  Hello, All,
  A little less than 1/2 hour I received a message in my inbox which purported
  to be from Declude.com.  Here is the full message (the 's are mine)...

  

  Received: from declude.com [66.189.124.29] by NexusTechGroup.com with ESMTP
(SMTPD32-6.06) id A33F67FC0114; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:45:35 -0400
  X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]
  X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for
  spam.
  X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS [5]
  
  This E-mail is scanned and free from viruses. www.nexustechgroup.com
  X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Fri,  6 Jun 2003 13:45:42 -0400
  X-UIDL: 354754410
  Status: U
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  

  As you can see there's not much to it.  Did anyone else receive this
  message?  Was this message actually sent from Declude?  Or was it a misfire
  in an impending attempt to use the good name of Declude.com to slip through
  people's spam filtering?

  Just curious.  It seemed like a very odd message to me.

  Thanks, Much!
  Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From Declude.JunkMail-owner@declude.com?

2003-06-06 Thread Robert Forsyth
I got one too...wierd.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:16 PM
 To: Declude JunkMail
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hello, All,
 A little less than 1/2 hour I received a message in my inbox
 which purported
 to be from Declude.com.  Here is the full message (the 's are mine)...

 

 Received: from declude.com [66.189.124.29] by NexusTechGroup.com
 with ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-6.06) id A33F67FC0114; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:45:35 -0400
 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]
 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for
 spam.
 X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS [5]
 
 This E-mail is scanned and free from viruses. www.nexustechgroup.com
 X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri,  6 Jun 2003 13:45:42 -0400
 X-UIDL: 354754410
 Status: U
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 As you can see there's not much to it.  Did anyone else receive this
 message?  Was this message actually sent from Declude?  Or was it
 a misfire
 in an impending attempt to use the good name of Declude.com to
 slip through
 people's spam filtering?

 Just curious.  It seemed like a very odd message to me.

 Thanks, Much!
 Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From Declude.JunkMail-owner@declude.com?

2003-06-06 Thread Nathan Fouarge
I got the exact same message.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:16 PM
To: Declude JunkMail
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello, All,
A little less than 1/2 hour I received a message in my inbox which purported
to be from Declude.com.  Here is the full message (the 's are mine)...



Received: from declude.com [66.189.124.29] by NexusTechGroup.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-6.06) id A33F67FC0114; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:45:35 -0400
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for
spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS [5]

This E-mail is scanned and free from viruses. www.nexustechgroup.com
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri,  6 Jun 2003 13:45:42 -0400
X-UIDL: 354754410
Status: U
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



As you can see there's not much to it.  Did anyone else receive this
message?  Was this message actually sent from Declude?  Or was it a misfire
in an impending attempt to use the good name of Declude.com to slip through
people's spam filtering?

Just curious.  It seemed like a very odd message to me.

Thanks, Much!
Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From Declude.JunkMail-owner@declude.com?

2003-06-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I received something weird. It was like the headers only.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:16 AM
 To: Declude JunkMail
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hello, All,
 A little less than 1/2 hour I received a message in my inbox which
purported
 to be from Declude.com.  Here is the full message (the 's are mine)...
 
 
 
 Received: from declude.com [66.189.124.29] by NexusTechGroup.com with
 ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-6.06) id A33F67FC0114; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:45:35 -0400
 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]
 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for
 spam.
 X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS [5]
 ===
 =
 This E-mail is scanned and free from viruses. www.nexustechgroup.com
 X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri,  6 Jun 2003 13:45:42 -0400
 X-UIDL: 354754410
 Status: U
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 As you can see there's not much to it.  Did anyone else receive this
 message?  Was this message actually sent from Declude?  Or was it a
misfire
 in an impending attempt to use the good name of Declude.com to slip
through
 people's spam filtering?
 
 Just curious.  It seemed like a very odd message to me.
 
 Thanks, Much!
 Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From Declude.JunkMail-owner@declude.com?Declude.JunkMail-owner@declude.com?

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

As you can see there's not much to it.  Did anyone else receive this
message?  Was this message actually sent from Declude?  Or was it a misfire
in an impending attempt to use the good name of Declude.com to slip through
people's spam filtering?
Just curious.  It seemed like a very odd message to me.
Someone else just reported this, and I figured out what the problem was.

There was an E-mail that was posted to the list that was excessively large 
(during a time where our bandwidth was already saturated), and wasn't meant 
to be posted to the list.  The E-mail was deleted, but apparently IMail 
will still deliver E-mails that it has started processing, even if it 
cannot open the D file in the spool.

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[Declude.JunkMail] AOL Connection dropped

2003-06-06 Thread keith - cribellum



Hi,

I was wondering if anyone else out there is seeing 
an issue with aol? It seems that we have not been able to connect 
toAOLall day. However, AOL has been connecting to us and 
sending us mail. Here are some snippets of our log files:

 06:06 14:35 SMTP-(0558) 
Trying aol.com (0) 06:06 14:35 SMTP-(0558) Connect 
aol.com   [64.12.136.217:25] 
(1)
 06:06 14:36 SMTP-(0558) 
 06:06 14:36 SMTP-(0558) 
SMTP_DELIV_FAILED 06:06 14:36 SMTP-(0558) 
QUIT

It seems like that we are making a connection then 
with no reason they drop it. Is anyone else having problems?


Keith ZwickCribellum, 
L.L.C.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From Declude.JunkMail-owner@declude.com?

2003-06-06 Thread brian

Me too.

 
On 06/06/03 11:39am you wrote...
I received something weird. It was like the headers only.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:16 AM
 To: Declude JunkMail
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Recent Message From Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hello, All,
 A little less than 1/2 hour I received a message in my inbox which
purported
 to be from Declude.com.  Here is the full message (the 's are mine)...
 
 
 
 Received: from declude.com [66.189.124.29] by NexusTechGroup.com with
 ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-6.06) id A33F67FC0114; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:45:35 -0400
 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]
 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for
 spam.
 X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS [5]
 ==  This
E-mail is scanned and free from viruses. www.nexustechgroup.com
 X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri,  6 Jun 2003 13:45:42 -0400
 X-UIDL: 354754410
 Status: U
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 As you can see there's not much to it.  Did anyone else receive this
 message?  Was this message actually sent from Declude?  Or was it a
misfire
 in an impending attempt to use the good name of Declude.com to slip
through
 people's spam filtering?
 
 Just curious.  It seemed like a very odd message to me.
 
 Thanks, Much!
 Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ==  This
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Connection dropped

2003-06-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Please see the lengthy thread on the Imail forum on this subject.

 

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA

Engineer/Consultant

eServices For You

www.eservicesforyou.com

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of keith - cribellum
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Connection dropped

 

Hi,

 

I was wondering if anyone else out there is seeing an issue with aol? It
seems that we have not been able to connect to AOL  all day.  However, AOL
has been connecting to us and sending us mail.  Here are some snippets of
our log files:

 

06:06 14:35 SMTP-(0558) Trying aol.com (0)
06:06 14:35 SMTP-(0558) Connect aol.com [64.12.136.217:25]
(1)

06:06 14:36 SMTP-(0558) 
06:06 14:36 SMTP-(0558) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED
06:06 14:36 SMTP-(0558) QUIT

 

It seems like that we are making a connection then with no reason they drop
it.  Is anyone else having problems?

 

 

Keith Zwick
Cribellum, L.L.C.



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist False Positive Tests

2003-06-06 Thread Todd Smith @ Teksolvers
Scott,

I've set XSENDER ON and XSPOOLNAME ON

What is the difference within the blacklist.txt file contain entries
that begin with a period (.junkmail.com), @ (@junkmail.com), or just
blank (junkmail.com) ?

Teksolvers, LLC
Todd Smith
1077 Glenharbor Circle
Winter Garden, FL 34787
Phone 407-877-8450
Fax   407-877-8451

 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist False Positive Tests


SMTP Imail log:

06:06 11:13 SMTPD(007A0120) [209.26.230.188] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(008B009A) [209.26.230.188] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(0051014C) [209.26.230.188] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
06:06 11:13 SMTPD(00290138) [209.26.230.188] MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Unfortunately, I can't tell you which of these four E-mails is the one
you 
posted.

I would recommend using the XSENDER ON and XSPOOLNAME ON options in
the 
global.cfg file, which makes it much easier to get the information you
need.

Any ideas?

You could send me your blacklist.txt file?

Also, What is the difference within the blacklist.txt file contain
entries that begin with a period (.junkmail.com), @ (@junkmail.com), or
just blank (junkmail.com)

They all work the same -- Declude JunkMail checks to see if the sender
has 
whatever you list in their return address.  So @example.com which
catch 
any E-mail from @example.com, .example.com would catch any E-mail from

@*.example.com, and example.com would catch both @example.com and 
@*.example.com as well as @not_an_example.com.

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[Declude.JunkMail] %HELOHOST% in Virus Recipient Notifications - Suggestion

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

Thanks to the 1.70i4 mishap we finally had the rare opportunity, to actually
receive some of these viruses that normally get blocked by Declude.  I
noticed, that our recipient notifications use the following variables:

  %REMOTEHOST%, %SENDERHOST%, %LOCALHOST%, %RECIPHOST%

But none of them list the HELO name used by the infected workstation
(which, in case of BugBear.B may show me the name of the Windows Workstation
who's spreading the virus.)

Scott, I noticed that the above four variables are 50% redundant - yet, none
of them truly inserts the sender host (e.g., the configured name used in
the HELO).

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: Postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 02:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Virus Firewall has Blocked an Email to You


Argos Networks' Virus Firewall has rejected an incoming message sent to 1
recipient(s). It was using a from address of [Forged]. (Please note, some
vira have the ability to forge the email address of the sender.)

 
The message with the subject of virus bei mir angekommen carried a virus:

  File:   Old Excel Documents.lnk.zlo
  Result: Found the W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] virus !!!

For more information see http://vil.mcafee.com/.
 
 
TRACKING INFORMATION
 
  Their Domain:  t-online.de for t-online.de (may be forged!)
  IP Address:194.25.134.80 
  Message ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Our Domain:hm-software.com for hm-software.com
  Queue ID:  Ddbd212f50202d9a9.SMD of 06/06/2003 14:22:14
  Version:   1.70


TRACKING FORGED SENDERS

If the infected email came from a forged sender, then it is often
impractical to track down the actual infected party.  The following two
links can help identify either the ISP or the organisation, who owns the IP
address that the infected party was using:

  http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=194.25.134.80
  http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=194.25.134.80


IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTICE

As a courtesy to customers, we attempt to block incoming vira before they
reach your mailbox.  However, Argos Networks cannot warrant that this will
always be successful.  We do not accept any liability in case a virus passes
through.  You are solely responsible for taking your own protective measures
to avoid any infections of your computers.
 
 
Sincerely,
Argos Networks
http://www.ArgosWeb.net/



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %HELOHOST% in Virus RecipientNotifications - Suggestion

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry

Thanks to the 1.70i4 mishap we finally had the rare opportunity, to actually
receive some of these viruses that normally get blocked by Declude.  I
noticed, that our recipient notifications use the following variables:
  %REMOTEHOST%, %SENDERHOST%, %LOCALHOST%, %RECIPHOST%

But none of them list the HELO name used by the infected workstation
(which, in case of BugBear.B may show me the name of the Windows Workstation
who's spreading the virus.)
That's correct.  Those host names are based on the sender and the recipient(s).

Scott, I noticed that the above four variables are 50% redundant
Correct (by design).

 - yet, none of them truly inserts the sender host (e.g., the 
configured name used in
the HELO).
Correct.  You can use the %HEADERS% variable to include the headers in the 
bounce message, but it is not possible to include just the HELO/EHLO data.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist False Positive Tests

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry
 They all work the same -- Declude JunkMail checks to see if the sender has
 whatever you list in their return address. So @example.com which catch
 any E-mail from @example.com, .example.com would catch any E-mail from
 @*.example.com, and example.com would catch both @example.com and
 @*.example.com as well as @not_an_example.com.
What is the difference within the blacklist.txt file contain entries
that begin with a period (.junkmail.com), @ (@junkmail.com), or just
blank (junkmail.com) ?
They all work the same -- Declude JunkMail checks to see if the sender has
whatever you list in their return address. So @example.com which catch
any E-mail from @example.com, .example.com would catch any E-mail from
@*.example.com, and example.com would catch both @example.com and
@*.example.com as well as @not_an_example.com.
   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Connection dropped

2003-06-06 Thread Todd Smith @ Teksolvers
Keith,

 

We have seen these errors from time to time with AOL.  It usually has to
do with the MX server timeout for AOL. They have a longer timeout
configured than Imail timeout for SMTP.

 



IMail - SMTP Timeout does not conform to RFC 2821


Product:

Version:

Platform:


IMail

7+

NT,Win2000,XP


  _  


Question/Problem: Is there any way to change the SMTP timeout?

Answer/Solution: IMail's default timeout is 2 minutes (120 seconds). To
change this, run regedit. Go to:

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\SMTPD32\Parameters

Create a new DWORD value named RECVTimeout and set the timeout in
seconds.

The RFCs suggest a timeout of 300 seconds.

Stop and restart the SMTP service. If you are running version 8, you
should also stop and restart the Queue Manager service.


Document #:

 

Revision Date:


IM-20020919-DM01

 

05/13/03

 

Todd Smith
Teksolvers, LLC
1077 Glenharbor Circle
Winter Garden, FL 34787
Phone 407-877-8450
Fax 407-877-8451

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of keith -
cribellum
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Connection dropped

 

Hi,

 

I was wondering if anyone else out there is seeing an issue with aol? It
seems that we have not been able to connect to AOL  all day.  However,
AOL has been connecting to us and sending us mail.  Here are some
snippets of our log files:

 

06:06 14:35 SMTP-(0558) Trying aol.com (0)
06:06 14:35 SMTP-(0558) Connect aol.com
[64.12.136.217:25] (1)

06:06 14:36 SMTP-(0558) 
06:06 14:36 SMTP-(0558) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED
06:06 14:36 SMTP-(0558) QUIT

 

It seems like that we are making a connection then with no reason they
drop it.  Is anyone else having problems?

 

 

Keith Zwick
Cribellum, L.L.C.



Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Request for new/enhanced feature

2003-06-06 Thread Bill Landry
I don't know if anyone is currently running the latest version of AlliGate
(formerly known as SpamManager) for Declude/IMail, but I have been running
if for the last week or so, and it has a bunch of new features and spam
tests that have greatly increased it's ability to flag spam.

The discussion about excess HTML tags (fake or legit) in e-mail messages may
benefit from a couple of the new tests incorporated into AlliGate.  One of
these tests helps to detect e-mail messages that have a large html to text
ratio.  Here is the pertinent part of the AlliGate manual that explains how
this test works:

==
Many messages have HTML formatting to make them more interesting and
readable by the end user. Of course, this includes spam as well. Some spam
messages have a higher degree of HTML specific tags and content than other
non-spam messages. SpamManager calculates the ratio of HTML related content
to actual, readable, text and a percentage is calculated. Our research
indicates that as the percentage of HTML/text reached values in excess of
55%, the likelihood of the message being spam increases. This is a
sliding-scale test and the penalty increases as the ratio increases above
the base percentage. The base percentage can be adjusted to suit your needs.
==

As well as a compression test that works pretty slick:

==
Many spam messages contain text that is repeated numerous times, such as
repeating HTML tags and URL's. This means that when applying a compression
algorithm to the message, much like is done with ZIP files, that the more a
message can be compressed, the more likely it is to be spam. SpamManager
applies a fast, low overhead, proprietary compression technique that is
optimized for text messages and calculates the amount of compression
achieved. Our research has shown that as a message's compression increases
above 40%, so does its probability of being spam. This is a sliding-scale
test and the penalty increases as the amount of compression increases above
the base percentage. The base percentage can be adjusted to suit your needs.
==

These are in addition to about a half dozen other spam tests that have been
added to the release version of AlliGate.  You may want to take a look at
www.alligate.com.  Overall, it has been a very nice additional plug-in to
our Declude/Sniffer/SpamCheck spam filtering system.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Request for new/enhanced feature



 I keep getting mail that slipps through that IMO shouldn't be that
 hard to catch really...

 G

 They use a variant of the html comments but
 the way they do it it don't get detected as a mail with to many html
 comments.

 Correct.  Because if Declude JunkMail were count all the HTML tags, then
 all that Microsoft Word E-mail Garbage (those one line E-mails that turn
 into 10K E-mails) would get caught, and a lot of other legitimate HTML
 E-mail would get caught, too.

 Below is a snippet of example text inside the html formated e-mail :
 
 Pk73ch7b1tddyenkqjezab3w79ejis
 Enkpv36t91gfs2largktwn2sd3kn7tqemek63uv4i3njxxcnt
 Pikxl9qjl2r3ervkll On The
 Mak9jgo17u5v244rkekth2amv3m1st!/font/font/font/bfont
 face=Arial,Helvetica/font
 pfont face=Arial,Helvetica* Gksfvuh135aju042aikndkb4w1ppwy192n
 3kbq72kb2dv2xsd2+ Full Inkn46ft9yw8pchkwhb2wy27wls3es In
 Lengka4vte11x26Lengka4vte11x26wth/font
 brfont face=Arial,Helvetica* Exkcay5sz12le0pand Your
 Pekt70s753udaio49nis Up To 20kh3tfh82ejp1%
 
 Basically remove the x junk and you get the text.

 That's exactly what the latest beta version does, so you can filter on it.

 Since these are invalid html comments most e-mail clients just simply
 ignore the
 comment text all together since it has the  around the text.

 Technically, these aren't invalid HTML comments, they are made-up HTML
tags
 (which could be valid in the future).  That's the problem.  The only way
to
 tell whether a tag is valid or not is to have a database of valid tags,
 which would be very expensive (CPU time, storage space, man-hours to
gather
 the data and update it, false positives, etc.).  If I recall correctly,
 HTML isn't even covered by the RFCs, which makes it more difficult to
 assess the tags.

 IMO this should also have failed HTMLCOMMENTS  which it did not.
 So my question.. Would it be possible to add the above junk as
 detected html comment ?

 In this case, we could say OK, 'k73ch7b1tddy' is a bogus HTML tag.  And
 'ksfvuh135aju042' is a bogus HTML tag.  And..., but a spammer could get
 around that simply by making another fake tag.

 So the only alternatives seem to be either [1] Count all HTML tags and
 catch legitimate E-mail, or [2] Keep a database of HTML tags.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Best use of Header and total Weight

2003-06-06 Thread Keith Purtell
I'm trying to come up with the best way to insert a header into the body of our 
incoming corporate
email, which will tell the recipient that the sender's message has almost acquired 
enough weight to
be deleted. The header should only appear if the email is within a few points of 
deletion. I
understand how to use the HEADER action as described in the manual. It's making it 
contingent on the
WEIGHT variable that I'm not sure about. Just upgraded to the Pro version. Archive 
still down.

Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole 
use of the
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unauthorized
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best use of Header and total Weight

2003-06-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
In the Global.cfg have:

WEIGHTHDR   weightrange x   x   6   7

In your $Default$.Junkmail have:

WEIGHTHDR   WARNX-RBL-Warning: Failed %TESTSFAILED% [%WEIGHT%]


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Best use of Header and total Weight


I'm trying to come up with the best way to insert a header into the body of
our incoming corporate email, which will tell the recipient that the
sender's message has almost acquired enough weight to be deleted. The header
should only appear if the email is within a few points of deletion. I
understand how to use the HEADER action as described in the manual. It's
making it contingent on the WEIGHT variable that I'm not sure about. Just
upgraded to the Pro version. Archive still down.

Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] bizarre Message

2003-06-06 Thread Lee Griffin
I'm getting the same message.

On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 15:35, James R. Skivers wrote:
 I did receive a message that had to sender, no subject, and no
 message. The header reads as follows.
 
  
 
 
  
 
 Received: from declude.com [66.189.124.29] by mail.planetkc.com with
 ESMTP
 
   (SMTPD32-7.15) id A121ADA0084; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:36:33 -0500
 
 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Web One JunkMail for spam.
 
 X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [0]
 
 X-UIDL: 300638699
 
  
 
 
  
 
 Freaky
 
  
 
 James R. Skivers
 
 Network Administrator
 
 Web One Inc.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 http://astra1.com
 
  
-- 
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Varsitycontractors Inc.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best use of Header and total Weight

2003-06-06 Thread Keith Purtell
H, I haven't used weightrange before, that'll help. But to actually make the 
message visible to
recipients, looks like I'll have to do something like 

In your $Default$.Junkmail have:

WEIGHTHDR  HEADER  This message weighs %WEIGHT% and may be deleted.

Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole 
use of the
intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any 
unauthorized
review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended 
recipient, please
contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 4:07 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best use of Header and total Weight


 In the Global.cfg have:

 WEIGHTHDR weightrange x   x   6   7

 In your $Default$.Junkmail have:

 WEIGHTHDR WARNX-RBL-Warning: Failed %TESTSFAILED% [%WEIGHT%]


 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt

 HM Systems Software, Inc.
 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206

 http://www.HM-Software.com/


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Purtell
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 04:52 PM
 To: Declude JunkMail (E-mail)
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Best use of Header and total Weight


 I'm trying to come up with the best way to insert a header
 into the body of
 our incoming corporate email, which will tell the recipient that the
 sender's message has almost acquired enough weight to be
 deleted. The header
 should only appear if the email is within a few points of deletion. I
 understand how to use the HEADER action as described in the
 manual. It's
 making it contingent on the WEIGHT variable that I'm not sure
 about. Just
 upgraded to the Pro version. Archive still down.

 Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
 VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
 Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any
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 recipient, please
 contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of
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[Declude.JunkMail] DSN:beta features

2003-06-06 Thread Kevin
What is the syntax for the alias spamdomains in the latest beta update?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] bizarre Message

2003-06-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)








It is the Friday Afternoon Gremlin.







John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA

Engineer/Consultant

eServices For You

www.eservicesforyou.com









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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lester Brown
Sent: Friday, June
 06, 2003 3:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
bizarre Message



Ive now received 10 copies of this
blank message. Any idea on where theyre coming from?



Heres the header:



Received: from declude.com [66.189.124.29]
by mail.washougal.k12.wa.us

 (SMTPD32-7.07) id A8EB5600C8; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:42:51 -0700

X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was
sent from a broken mail client [8c20].

X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT5: Total weight
between 0 and 9.

X-Declude-Sender:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]

X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude
JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam.

X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS, WEIGHT5

X-UIDL: 352751939





Lester Brown

Network Support Specialist

Washougal
School District 112-6

Phone: 360-954-3310 Fax: 360-835-1182

[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James R. Skivers
Sent: Friday, June
 06, 2003 12:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
bizarre Message



I did receive a message that had to
sender, no subject, and no message. The header reads as follows.









Received: from declude.com
[66.189.124.29] by mail.planetkc.com with ESMTP

 (SMTPD32-7.15) id
A121ADA0084; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:36:33 -0500

X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by
Web One JunkMail for spam.

X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [0]

X-UIDL: 300638699









Freaky



James R. Skivers

Network Administrator

Web One Inc.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://astra1.com












Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Bill B.
Dan,

Those will work, but only because the revdns for legit email from those domains will 
always match outblaze.com and will never match accountant.com and the others.

I'd leave those @ symbols if I were you, because these outblaze domains use generic 
dictionary words.  So without the @ you will run the risk of matching unintended 
domains such as myaccountant.com, business-in-asia.com

Bill


-Original Message-
From: Dan Patnode
Sent: 06 Jun 2003 15:33:26 -0700
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


So then these also won't work:

@2die4.com  outblaze.com
@accountant.com outblaze.com
@adexec.com outblaze.com
@africamail.com outblaze.com
@allergist.com  outblaze.com
@alumnidirector.com outblaze.com
@archaeologist.com  outblaze.com
@arcticmail.com outblaze.com
@artlover.com   outblaze.com
@asia.com   outblaze.com

I'll take the @'s out

Dan



On Thursday, June 5, 2003 13:33, R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

@tin.itTin.it
@tin.itTuttopmi.it
@tin.itFlexmail.it

Scott, would you confirm?

I'm not sure this will work.

The problem is that when Declude JunkMail sees the line @tin.it  Tin.it, 
if the reverse DNS is mail.Tuttopmi.it, Declude JunkMail will fail the 
test (even though it matches the next line, Declude JunkMail won't know 
that that should cancel out a previous line that failed).

-Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DSN:beta features

2003-06-06 Thread Bill Landry
Global.cfg:
SPAMDOMAINS spamdomains F:\IMail\Declude\SpamDomains.txt x 5 0

SpamDomain.txt examples:
amazon.com
ameritech.net
aol.com
apple.com
@att.   .att.
attbi.com
bellsouth.net
charter.net
comcast.
compuserve.com
concentric.  .cnchost.com
@cox.   .cox.
earthlink.
excite.com
geocities.com  .yahoo.com
@gte.   .gte.
@hotmail.com  .hotmail.com
juno.com  .untd.com
lycos.com
microsoft.com
mindspring.
msn.com   .hotmail.com
netscape.  .aol.com
netzero.  .untd.com
prodigy.
@psi.   .psi.
qwest.   .uswest.
.rr.com
sbc.com
swbell.net  .prodigy.net
verio.
verizon.  .bellatlantic.
yahoo.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:58 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] DSN:beta features


 What is the syntax for the alias spamdomains in the latest beta update?


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] bizarre Message

2003-06-06 Thread Bill Landry



Hmmm, I have only gotten the one from earlier 
today. It does appear that they are coming from the Declude list server, 
however: Received: from declude.com 
[66.189.124.29]

Bill

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lester Brown 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:51 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] bizarre 
  Message
  
  
  I’ve now received 10 
  copies of this blank message. Any idea on where they’re coming 
  from?
  
  Here’s the 
  header:
  
  Received: from 
  declude.com [66.189.124.29] by mail.washougal.k12.wa.us
   (SMTPD32-7.07) 
  id A8EB5600C8; Fri, 06 Jun 
  2003 15:42:51 
  -0700
  X-RBL-Warning: 
  BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client 
  [8c20].
  X-RBL-Warning: 
  WEIGHT5: Total weight between 0 and 9.
  X-Declude-Sender: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]
  X-Note: This E-mail 
  was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam.
  X-Spam-Tests-Failed: 
  BADHEADERS, WEIGHT5
  X-UIDL: 
  352751939
  
  
  Lester 
  Brown
  Network Support 
  Specialist
  Washougal School District 
  112-6
  Phone: 360-954-3310 
  Fax: 360-835-1182
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of James R. 
  SkiversSent: 
  Friday, June 06, 
  2003 12:36 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] bizarre 
  Message
  
  I did receive a message that had 
  to sender, no subject, and no message. The header reads as 
  follows.
  
  
  
  Received: from declude.com 
  [66.189.124.29] by mail.planetkc.com with ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-7.15) id 
  A121ADA0084; Fri, 06 Jun 
  2003 12:36:33 
  -0500
  X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by 
  Web One JunkMail for spam.
  X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None 
  [0]
  X-UIDL: 
300638699
  
  
  
  Freaky
  
  James R. Skivers
  Network 
  Administrator
  Web One Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://astra1.com
  


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Bill Landry
Those should work fine.  What will not work is when the left part is listed
more than once with different right parts, the first match win and the
others will never be checked.  For example, abc.com will always only match
the first line item here:

@abc.comxyz.com   ---(Match and looks no further down the list)
@abc.comxyz.net
@abc.comxyz.org

Your list below should work just fine.

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Patnode [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


So then these also won't work:

@2die4.com outblaze.com
@accountant.com outblaze.com
@adexec.com outblaze.com
@africamail.com outblaze.com
@allergist.com outblaze.com
@alumnidirector.com outblaze.com
@archaeologist.com outblaze.com
@arcticmail.com outblaze.com
@artlover.com outblaze.com
@asia.com outblaze.com

I'll take the @'s out

Dan



On Thursday, June 5, 2003 13:33, R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

@tin.itTin.it
@tin.itTuttopmi.it
@tin.itFlexmail.it

Scott, would you confirm?

I'm not sure this will work.

The problem is that when Declude JunkMail sees the line @tin.it  Tin.it,
if the reverse DNS is mail.Tuttopmi.it, Declude JunkMail will fail the
test (even though it matches the next line, Declude JunkMail won't know
that that should cancel out a previous line that failed).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Dan Patnode
Thanks for the clarification.  In that example then, the way to go is:

@abc.comxyz.


:)



On Friday, June 6, 2003 16:12, Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those should work fine.  What will not work is when the left part is listed
more than once with different right parts, the first match win and the
others will never be checked.  For example, abc.com will always only match
the first line item here:

@abc.comxyz.com   ---(Match and looks no further down the list)
@abc.comxyz.net
@abc.comxyz.org

Your list below should work just fine.

Bill
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From: Dan Patnode [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


So then these also won't work:

@2die4.com outblaze.com
@accountant.com outblaze.com
@adexec.com outblaze.com
@africamail.com outblaze.com
@allergist.com outblaze.com
@alumnidirector.com outblaze.com
@archaeologist.com outblaze.com
@arcticmail.com outblaze.com
@artlover.com outblaze.com
@asia.com outblaze.com

I'll take the @'s out

Dan



On Thursday, June 5, 2003 13:33, R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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@tin.itTin.it
@tin.itTuttopmi.it
@tin.itFlexmail.it

Scott, would you confirm?

I'm not sure this will work.

The problem is that when Declude JunkMail sees the line @tin.it  Tin.it,
if the reverse DNS is mail.Tuttopmi.it, Declude JunkMail will fail the
test (even though it matches the next line, Declude JunkMail won't know
that that should cancel out a previous line that failed).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Bill Landry
yep, that would work.  However, I would probably do:

@abc.com.xyz.

with the leading dot, as well.  That way it would not also match wxyz..

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Patnode [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


Thanks for the clarification.  In that example then, the way to go is:

@abc.comxyz.


:)



On Friday, June 6, 2003 16:12, Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those should work fine.  What will not work is when the left part is listed
more than once with different right parts, the first match win and the
others will never be checked.  For example, abc.com will always only match
the first line item here:

@abc.comxyz.com   ---(Match and looks no further down the list)
@abc.comxyz.net
@abc.comxyz.org

Your list below should work just fine.

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Patnode [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list


So then these also won't work:

@2die4.com outblaze.com
@accountant.com outblaze.com
@adexec.com outblaze.com
@africamail.com outblaze.com
@allergist.com outblaze.com
@alumnidirector.com outblaze.com
@archaeologist.com outblaze.com
@arcticmail.com outblaze.com
@artlover.com outblaze.com
@asia.com outblaze.com

I'll take the @'s out

Dan



On Thursday, June 5, 2003 13:33, R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

@tin.itTin.it
@tin.itTuttopmi.it
@tin.itFlexmail.it

Scott, would you confirm?

I'm not sure this will work.

The problem is that when Declude JunkMail sees the line @tin.it  Tin.it,
if the reverse DNS is mail.Tuttopmi.it, Declude JunkMail will fail the
test (even though it matches the next line, Declude JunkMail won't know
that that should cancel out a previous line that failed).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] bizarre Message

2003-06-06 Thread Kevin Bilbee



I 
received one also. Here are my headers. and it does look like it came from the 
declude list server
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]

Here 
is the reverse of the IP. It is the ip of 
mail.declude.com
66.189.124.29 PTR record: 
cpe-66-189-124-29.ma.charter.com. [TTL 86400s] 
[A=66.189.124.29]

Received: from ns1.ssc-isp.net [12.9.25.242] by 
standardabrasives.com (SMTPD32-7.15) id A0C72F10086; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 
10:35:03 -0700Received: from declude.com ([66.189.124.29])by 
ns1.ssc-isp.net (NAVGW 2.5.2.9) with SMTP id M2003060610333827499for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:33:40 -0700X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was 
sent from a broken mail client [8c20].X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[66.189.124.29]X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for 
spam.X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS, WEIGHT5 [5]X-Spam-Prob: 
0.383084X-UIDL: 354249338


Kevin 
Bilbee



  -Original Message-From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bill 
  LandrySent: Friday, June 06, 2003 4:08 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] bizarre 
  Message
  Hmmm, I have only gotten the one from 
  earlier today. It does appear that they are coming from the Declude list 
  server, however: Received: from declude.com 
  [66.189.124.29]
  
  Bill
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lester Brown 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:51 
PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] bizarre 
Message


I’ve now received 
10 copies of this blank message. Any idea on where they’re coming 
from?

Here’s the 
header:

Received: from 
declude.com [66.189.124.29] by mail.washougal.k12.wa.us
 
(SMTPD32-7.07) id A8EB5600C8; Fri, 
06 Jun 2003 
15:42:51 
-0700
X-RBL-Warning: 
BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client 
[8c20].
X-RBL-Warning: 
WEIGHT5: Total weight between 0 and 9.
X-Declude-Sender: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.189.124.29]
X-Note: This E-mail 
was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for 
spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: 
BADHEADERS, WEIGHT5
X-UIDL: 
352751939


Lester 
Brown
Network Support 
Specialist
Washougal School District 
112-6
Phone: 360-954-3310 
Fax: 360-835-1182
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James R. 
SkiversSent: 
Friday, June 06, 
2003 12:36 
PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] bizarre 
Message

I did receive a message that had 
to sender, no subject, and no message. The header reads as 
follows.



Received: from declude.com 
[66.189.124.29] by mail.planetkc.com with ESMTP
 (SMTPD32-7.15) id 
A121ADA0084; Fri, 06 Jun 
2003 12:36:33 
-0500
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned 
by Web One JunkMail for spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None 
[0]
X-UIDL: 
300638699



Freaky

James R. 
Skivers
Network 
Administrator
Web One Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://astra1.com



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: The Titian Key Product to Remove Spam.. patent pending?

2003-06-06 Thread Todd Holt









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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Eddie Pang
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:09
AM
To: Declude. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT:
The Titian Key Product to Remove Spam.. patent pending?





FWIW..











Looks like a variation of a mail
gateway at a cost of $1000.00 per month!











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[Declude.JunkMail] US Internet

2003-06-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Will the e-mail admin of US Internet please contact me off list?

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com



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