RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all internal validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime soon. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David, So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the Bypass key? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
David - with your support extended to the community, will you be able to offer maintenance of the all_list.dat as well as the filters? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:02 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all internal validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime soon. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David, So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the Bypass key? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Hi David, Would you mind explaining your hosts trick? Not how a host file works but why this will circumvent licensing Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:11 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Filters yes all_list.dat working on that. -Original Message- From: John Dobbin [mailto:jo...@penpublishing.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:14 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? David - with your support extended to the community, will you be able to offer maintenance of the all_list.dat as well as the filters? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:02 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all internal validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime soon. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David, So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the Bypass key? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Already posted…. But here again: If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:17 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Hi David, Would you mind explaining your hosts trick? Not how a host file works but why this will circumvent licensing Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm _ From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:11 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947 [BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Thanks for that. Mine is now down too, and I am paid up until the end of the year with CommTouch, etc. Very Respectfully, Michael E. Cummins -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Was anyone able to download the all_list.dat file from the interim directory that David posted? Everything else downloaded for me except that file. -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Filters yes all_list.dat working on that. -Original Message- From: John Dobbin [mailto:jo...@penpublishing.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:14 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? David - with your support extended to the community, will you be able to offer maintenance of the all_list.dat as well as the filters? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:02 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all internal validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime soon. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David, So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the Bypass key? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Not from THAT folder, but I found it in another folder on the FTP site - same recent date. -Original Message- From: Dave Beckstrom [mailto:db...@atving.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Was anyone able to download the all_list.dat file from the interim directory that David posted? Everything else downloaded for me except that file. -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Filters yes all_list.dat working on that. -Original Message- From: John Dobbin [mailto:jo...@penpublishing.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:14 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? David - with your support extended to the community, will you be able to offer maintenance of the all_list.dat as well as the filters? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:02 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all internal validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime soon. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David, So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the Bypass key? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
I was able to download it from my Declude site login; couldn't download it from the interim site Sincerely, Randy A. -Original Message- From: Dave Beckstrom [mailto:db...@atving.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Was anyone able to download the all_list.dat file from the interim directory that David posted? Everything else downloaded for me except that file. -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Filters yes all_list.dat working on that. -Original Message- From: John Dobbin [mailto:jo...@penpublishing.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:14 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? David - with your support extended to the community, will you be able to offer maintenance of the all_list.dat as well as the filters? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:02 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all internal validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime soon. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David, So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the Bypass key? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clam Antivirus
Sorry, I just saw Matt's e-mail from yesterday. Thanks, Matt! I'll give it a whirl. Very Respectfully, Michael E. Cummins -Original Message- From: Michael Cummins [mailto:mich...@i-magery.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:21 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Clam Antivirus So AVG and CommTouch can't be used anymore, right? I have Message Sniffer configured to run externally, and I've been told that it catches viruses, but I don't know the particulars and don't have full conifence that I'm protecting my customers as well as I used to. I went to download ClamAV, but the only thing I can find on their website is that Immunet 3.0 product. Anyone recently download and configure ClamAV for use with Declude? - Michael Cummins --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clam Antivirus
Commtouch was a 3rd party plugin and only deal with vendors there is nothing that can be done to reestablish Commtouch, besides I am assuming they are not being paid by Declude either. -Original Message- From: Michael Cummins [mailto:mich...@i-magery.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:20 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clam Antivirus Working good. I see a virus in my /virus/ directory that Message Sniffer put there: X-MessageSniffer-Identifier: \Spool\proc\work\778871245675.eml X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, Ugly c=1 p=0.0736094 Source Normal X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 55 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 55-5553430-0-32767-f ...and now I see in report.txt and in the declude virus log that ClamD is looking at things, too. I feel better about not having AVG, but I wish there was a way to get the COmmTouch I already paid for. Anyone reach out to CommTouch yet? - Michael Cummins -Original Message- From: Michael Cummins [mailto:mich...@i-magery.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:26 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clam Antivirus Sorry, I just saw Matt's e-mail from yesterday. Thanks, Matt! I'll give it a whirl. Very Respectfully, Michael E. Cummins -Original Message- From: Michael Cummins [mailto:mich...@i-magery.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:21 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Clam Antivirus So AVG and CommTouch can't be used anymore, right? I have Message Sniffer configured to run externally, and I've been told that it catches viruses, but I don't know the particulars and don't have full conifence that I'm protecting my customers as well as I used to. I went to download ClamAV, but the only thing I can find on their website is that Immunet 3.0 product. Anyone recently download and configure ClamAV for use with Declude? - Michael Cummins --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Todd It appears that there is no one at Declude The server that handles this apparently is down and has been for a week or so. Go to mail list archive using the link below Go to the spam version of declude and sort the messages by date Go back a week or so and read the threads There is some contact info for getting help You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on getting message sniffer to run standalone. John -Original Message- From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:43 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947 [BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Hi John - Thanks - I actually talked with Linda on Monday afternoon and she got me set back up with a working installation of Declude. What about you? Todd __ Todd Richards Director of Technology National Network, LLC. Email: to...@nnepa.com Toll Free: 800.638.8681 Fax: 800.638.8681 -Original Message- From: John Doyle [mailto:jdo...@spicehunter.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:11 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Todd It appears that there is no one at Declude The server that handles this apparently is down and has been for a week or so. Go to mail list archive using the link below Go to the spam version of declude and sort the messages by date Go back a week or so and read the threads There is some contact info for getting help You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on getting message sniffer to run standalone. John -Original Message- From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:43 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947 [BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product. Declude still has tremendous value, hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do. The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer. David Barker Mail’s Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote: You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on getting message sniffer to run standalone. Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail. On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin: http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner: http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Thanks David for the vote of confidence. Who do we contact at Declude for customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list. Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product. Declude still has tremendous value, hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do. The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer. David Barker Mail's Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote: You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on getting message sniffer to run standalone. Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail. On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin: http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner: http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
There is no-one at Declude, not one person involved in operations. No engineers, no sales people, no support people no management nothing. The company right now simply exists as an entity. The only help you are going to get from MBF. David From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:47 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David for the vote of confidence. Who do we contact at Declude for customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list. Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm _ From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product. Declude still has tremendous value, hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do. The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer. David Barker Mail’s Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote: You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on getting message sniffer to run standalone. Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail. On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin: http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner: http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Ours went down as well this morning. Declude stopped processing with a licensing error. I have left several phone messages. Todd From: Nick Hayer n...@madriveraccess.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:47 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David for the vote of confidence. Who do we contact at Declude for customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list. Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product. Declude still has tremendous value, hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do. The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer. David Barker Mail's Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote: You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on getting message sniffer to run standalone. Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail. On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin: http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner: http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Well the only thing that has not gone away is this list for some reason. Even the site went dark for awhile. Why have the the site up, phones on, list work but kill the license server?David - do you have any insight? Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm From: Todd t...@smart-mail.net Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:26 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Ours went down as well this morning. Declude stopped processing with a licensing error. I have left several phone messages. Todd From: Nick Hayer n...@madriveraccess.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:47 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David for the vote of confidence. Who do we contact at Declude for customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list. Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product. Declude still has tremendous value, hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do. The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer. David Barker Mail's Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote: You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on getting message sniffer to run standalone. Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail. On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin: http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner: http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
There are a lot of new spam nets that have just been turned up over the past few days. Volumes more than doubled for us, with a lot slipping through. We’ve added quite a few class Cs to our firewall blocks this week as we see new ones light up that are entirely owned by a spammer. That’s helped cut it down almost to normal levels, and we’ve gotten ahead of them at times by blocking their entire net before they used some of their IPs. Darin. From: Katie La Salle-Lowery Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:37 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Our Declude + Message Sniffer appears to be processing, and it is deleting much spam, but we are experiencing much more spam delivery than a couple weeks ago and I’m getting user complaints. Katie LaSalle-Lowery ka...@centric.net 1120 S. Russell; Ste B Missoula, MT 59801 ph (406)549-3337 fax (406)541-9338 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. image001.jpg
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
We run an older Declude perpetual license, so we weren’t affected by this issue, and don’t use Postini, so it’s just the new spam nets over the past week or so that have affected us. Darin. From: Katie La Salle-Lowery Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:56 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Declude and Postinin dying in the same period as the Spamhaus battle (assuming that is ongoing) is putting the hurt on, I think. Katie LaSalle-Lowery ka...@centric.net 1120 S. Russell; Ste B Missoula, MT 59801 ph (406)549-3337 fax (406)541-9338 From: Darin Cox [mailto:dc...@4cweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:52 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? There are a lot of new spam nets that have just been turned up over the past few days. Volumes more than doubled for us, with a lot slipping through. We’ve added quite a few class Cs to our firewall blocks this week as we see new ones light up that are entirely owned by a spammer. That’s helped cut it down almost to normal levels, and we’ve gotten ahead of them at times by blocking their entire net before they used some of their IPs. Darin. From: Katie La Salle-Lowery Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:37 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Our Declude + Message Sniffer appears to be processing, and it is deleting much spam, but we are experiencing much more spam delivery than a couple weeks ago and I’m getting user complaints. Katie LaSalle-Lowery ka...@centric.net 1120 S. Russell; Ste B Missoula, MT 59801 ph (406)549-3337 fax (406)541-9338 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. image001.jpg
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
On 2013-04-17 13:06, Katie La Salle-Lowery wrote: X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 20-0-0--1-f Message Sniffer tagged this message with a truncate result. Result code 20. Normally we recommend that a Truncate result should be weighted high enough to ensure the message is treated as spam / malware with extreme prejudice. Truncate means that the IP reputation for the source is known to be so bad that SNF isn't going to bother finishing the content scan. It's simply going to mark the message as spam and possibly take a sample. http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/software/snfServer/core.jsp Hope this helps, _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
In short. That is the reason. From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? There is no-one at Declude, not one person involved in operations. No engineers, no sales people, no support people no management nothing. That is too bad. Who would have guessed this would happen. So why did Declude die? You were its VP - thoughts? Is Chuck still around by chance? http://www.corporationwiki.com/Massachusetts/Somerville/david-barker/116682287.aspx http://corp.sec.state.ma.us/corp/corpsearch/CorpSearchSummary.asp?ReadFromDB=True http://corp.sec.state.ma.us/corp/corpsearch/CorpSearchSummary.asp?ReadFromDB=TrueUpdateAllowed=FEIN=371577720 UpdateAllowed=FEIN=371577720 Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm _ From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:02 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? There is no-one at Declude, not one person involved in operations. No engineers, no sales people, no support people no management nothing. The company right now simply exists as an entity. The only help you are going to get from MBF. David From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:47 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David for the vote of confidence. Who do we contact at Declude for customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list. Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm _ From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product. Declude still has tremendous value, hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do. The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer. David Barker Mail’s Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote: You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on getting message sniffer to run standalone. Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail. On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin: http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner: http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
I do know. Let me put it this way, it is up not for the benefit of customers. From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:43 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Well the only thing that has not gone away is this list for some reason. Even the site went dark for awhile. Why have the the site up, phones on, list work but kill the license server?David - do you have any insight? Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm _ From: Todd t...@smart-mail.net Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:26 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Ours went down as well this morning. Declude stopped processing with a licensing error. I have left several phone messages. Todd _ From: Nick Hayer n...@madriveraccess.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:47 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Thanks David for the vote of confidence. Who do we contact at Declude for customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list. Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm _ From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product. Declude still has tremendous value, hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do. The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer. David Barker Mail's Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote: You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on getting message sniffer to run standalone. Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail. On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin: http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner: http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
1. Makes sure that SNF is OFF in the \Diags.txt 2. These are my suggested values (please note that you path if copy/paste) also NONZERO weight can be 20 or 25. Also if you want to break out the NONZERO codes that is fine too. SNIFFER external NONZERO C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 20 0 SNIFFER-CAUTION external 020 C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe -10 0 SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal 040 C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 10 0 David Barker Mail’s Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com http://www.mailsbestfriend.com/ Office: 703.988.3605 x7015 Mobile : 978.518.6461 cid:image001.png@01CE2B2E.8B3E9EF0 From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 13:06, Katie La Salle-Lowery wrote: X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 20 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 20-0-0--1-f By the way: We have seen a LOT of this lately. For some reason there appear to be many Declude configurations out there that do not account for the truncate result code from SNF. I highly recommend that if you are using Declude, and especially if you have seen an increase in spam leakage, you should check your configuration and make sure that you weight result code 20 higher than other nonzero Message Sniffer result codes. On most systems that use SNF + Declude, not counting for the truncate result code can result in leaking more than 10% of spam/malware that would have been caught. Best, _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. image001.png
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
On 2013-04-17 13:36, David Barker wrote: SNIFFER external NONZERO "C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe" 20 0 SNIFFER-CAUTION external 020 "C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe" -10 0 SNIFFER-TRUNCATE external 040 "C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe" 10 0 Woops!! That's backward. It SHOULD be: SNIFFER-CAUTION external 040 etc... SNIFFER-TRUNCATE external 020 etc... Best, _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
On 2013-04-17 13:43, Katie La Salle-Lowery wrote: Just to be clear – 020 should be the truncate and 040 the caution (opposite of below) according to what Pete sent (http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/software/snfServer/core.jsp), right? Yes. _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
For IMail that was true, but I switched to SM last fall and that no longer appears to be the case. There is no license code in my declude.cfg file and the cod line says SmarterMail can removed this line. Ben -Original Message- From: Randy Armbrecht Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? License code is in the declude.cfg file Sincerely, Randy A. -Original Message- From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:27 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Hi, I haven't seen anyone else comment on this post and I wondered if it was one of the perpetual licenses. I would test it but I can't recall or figure out how to change the license code manually. So how do I do that? Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:36 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Why the negative weight on Caution? What’s the logic behind that? Thanks, Ben From: Pete McNeil Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:47 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 13:36, David Barker wrote: SNIFFER external NONZERO C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 20 0 SNIFFER-CAUTION external 020 C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe -10 0 SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal 040 C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 10 0 Woops!! That's backward. It SHOULD be: SNIFFER-CAUTIONexternal040etc... SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal020etc... Best, _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
On 2013-04-17 13:52, SM Admin wrote: Why the negative weight on Caution? What’s the logic behind that? The Caution result is based on a special case with a small amount of information: Sniffer is saying: This IP is new, and the first message or two that it sent was spam. The current message didn't match any patterns I know, but I'll bet that it's just a bot I haven't seen before that's been lit up to send a new spam campaign. That reasoning is usually correct, but it's not as solid as the other result codes because it's guessing Hope this helps, _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Sorry for the confusion: This is the correct VERSION. Please update your Sniffer Configs. (Sorry I missed this lack of sleep trying to keep everyone afloat) I am going to post this same information to the MBF Message List. SNIFFER external NONZERO C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 20 0 SNIFFER-CAUTION external 040 C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe -10 0 SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal 020 C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 10 0 From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 13:36, David Barker wrote: SNIFFER external NONZERO C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 20 0 SNIFFER-CAUTION external 020 C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe -10 0 SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal 040 C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 10 0 Woops!! That's backward. It SHOULD be: SNIFFER-CAUTIONexternal040etc... SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal020etc... Best, _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
FYI... I spot-checked some of the domains involved in what we were seeing. Many were two or three years old, so the new domain test would not work on them. On the report, there are log parsers that will do that for you, including Grep and Sawmill. We don’t use those, but import our logs into SQL Server for processing and reporting. Darin. From: Dave Beckstrom Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:37 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I put in a request to Darrell at Invariant to see if he could update URIExtract to produce a report of IPs on top of the domain report that it currently produces. What I've been doing is if I receive one spam from say 69.22.136.43 and another spam from 69.22.136.48 then I firewall 69.22.136.0/24 I'd like to see a report of IPs extracted from emails and a count of how many emails were found from a given IP -- reports taken from the INVURIBL log files, that is. I've not heard back from Darrell. I don't have any other tool at my disposal for extracting those IPs. What we really need, is something that would do a whois query and for any domain registered within say the last 24 hours then declude could hold or delete the email. The majority of spam seems to be from spammers who registered a domain using fake credit card and by the time the registrar figures out they didn't get paid then the spammer is on to the next domain. From: Darin Cox [mailto:dc...@4cweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [SPAM]- Score (19)Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Not many IPs in that range in use yet according to SenderBase, but those that are are very bad. We’ve been seeing a lot of spam traffic where SenderBase didn’t have any measurements on the IP yet that we were seeing, but had a number of others in the same subnet... all bad. Darin. From: Katie La Salle-Lowery Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:06 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Here are the headers of an example I received. Received: from pop.mountainmusicmeltdown.com [207.223.191.101] by mail.centric.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.01) id 1950001a04b74c7d; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:57:09 -0600 From: credit line increase barbara_watk...@mountainmusicmeltdown.com To: ka...@centric.net Subject: Magnificent News! TransUnion Gave You a Credit Increase Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:50:56 -0400 Message-ID: 34770215301099823782438a696834a88ab99428fd8da700...@pop.mountainmusicmeltdown.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline X-MessageSniffer-Identifier: C:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D1950001a04b74c7d.smd X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 207.223.191.101, Ugly c=0.279065 p=1 Source Truncate X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 20 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 20-0-0--1-f X-RBL-Warning: SUBCHARS-55: Subject with at least 55 characters found. X-Declude-Sender: barbara_watk...@mountainmusicmeltdown.com [207.223.191.101] X-Declude-Spoolname: D1950001a04b74c7d.smd X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Centric Internet Services using Declude 4.12.01 for spam. http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [8] at 08:57:23 on 17 Apr 2013 X-Declude-Fail: SORBS-DUL [5], SORBS [4], SPFPASS [-1], SUBCHARS-55 [1] X-Country-Chain: X-RCPT-TO: ka...@centric.net Status: X-UIDL: 651220478 X-IMail-ThreadID: 1950001a04b74c7d Katie LaSalle-Lowery ka...@centric.net 1120 S. Russell; Ste B Missoula, MT 59801 ph (406)549-3337 fax (406)541-9338 From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:52 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 12:37, Katie La Salle-Lowery wrote: Our Declude + Message Sniffer appears to be processing, and it is deleting much spam, but we are experiencing much more spam delivery than a couple weeks ago and I’m getting user complaints. It's possible that your weighting is off due to some parts of Declude not working anymore. If you're experiencing leakage that SNF is not tagging please let us know and we will work aggressively to resolve the problem. http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/procedures/spamSubmissions.jsp If SNF is tagging the messages that are getting through then be sure to adjust your configuration to weight SNF results more highly. Hope this helps, _M -- Pete McNeil, PresidentMicroNeil Research Corporationwww.microneil.com703.779.4909 x7010twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Hi Darin, I don't have stats but in manual checks it seems to be about 50% of my spam. stepvalve.net Creation date: 16 Apr 2013 16:13:00 Expiration date: 16 Apr 2014 08:13:00 kunstkennis.com Updated Date: 17-apr-2013 Creation Date: 16-apr-2013 shoputc.com Creation date: 16 Apr 2013 19:24:13 Expiration date: 16 Apr 2014 19:24:00 What ticks me off is a lot of it is registered with ENOM which is where I buy my domains. From: Darin Cox [mailto:dc...@4cweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? HI Dave, Maybe we are looking at different cross-sections of the spam problem, but on our systems we see a lot from spammy domains that are not brand new. Darin. From: Dave Beckstrom mailto:db...@atving.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:22 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Darin, The new domain test would work on a majority of spam. Here is one from the saffron extract spams that are being sent. Just got this one this morning. Received: from mail3.llorynlouise.com [173.237.33.77] by [Querying whois.enom.com] [whois.enom.com] Updated Date: 17-apr-2013 Creation Date: 16-apr-2013 From: Darin Cox [mailto:dc...@4cweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:14 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? FYI... I spot-checked some of the domains involved in what we were seeing. Many were two or three years old, so the new domain test would not work on them. On the report, there are log parsers that will do that for you, including Grep and Sawmill. We don't use those, but import our logs into SQL Server for processing and reporting. Darin. From: Dave Beckstrom mailto:db...@atving.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:37 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I put in a request to Darrell at Invariant to see if he could update URIExtract to produce a report of IPs on top of the domain report that it currently produces. What I've been doing is if I receive one spam from say 69.22.136.43 and another spam from 69.22.136.48 then I firewall 69.22.136.0/24 I'd like to see a report of IPs extracted from emails and a count of how many emails were found from a given IP -- reports taken from the INVURIBL log files, that is. I've not heard back from Darrell. I don't have any other tool at my disposal for extracting those IPs. What we really need, is something that would do a whois query and for any domain registered within say the last 24 hours then declude could hold or delete the email. The majority of spam seems to be from spammers who registered a domain using fake credit card and by the time the registrar figures out they didn't get paid then the spammer is on to the next domain. From: Darin Cox [mailto:dc...@4cweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [SPAM]- Score (19)Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Not many IPs in that range in use yet according to SenderBase, but those that are are very bad. We've been seeing a lot of spam traffic where SenderBase didn't have any measurements on the IP yet that we were seeing, but had a number of others in the same subnet... all bad. Darin. From: Katie La Salle-Lowery mailto:ka...@centric.net Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:06 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Here are the headers of an example I received. Received: from pop.mountainmusicmeltdown.com [207.223.191.101] by mail.centric.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.01) id 1950001a04b74c7d; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:57:09 -0600 From: credit line increase barbara_watk...@mountainmusicmeltdown.com To: ka...@centric.net Subject: Magnificent News! TransUnion Gave You a Credit Increase Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:50:56 -0400 Message-ID: 34770215301099823782438a696834a88ab99428fd8da700613@pop.mountainmusicmeltdo wn.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline X-MessageSniffer-Identifier: C:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D1950001a04b74c7d.smd X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 207.223.191.101, Ugly c=0.279065 p=1 Source Truncate X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 20 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 20-0-0--1-f X-RBL-Warning: SUBCHARS-55: Subject with at least 55 characters found. X-Declude-Sender: barbara_watk...@mountainmusicmeltdown.com [207.223.191.101] X-Declude-Spoolname: D1950001a04b74c7d.smd X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Centric Internet Services using Declude 4.12.01 for spam. http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [8] at 08:57:23 on 17 Apr 2013 X-Declude-Fail: SORBS-DUL [5], SORBS [4], SPFPASS [-1], SUBCHARS-55 [1] X-Country-Chain: X-RCPT
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ***DECLUDE NO-AUTHENTICATION KEY***
So what needs to be done with ClamAV? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ***DECLUDE NO-AUTHENTICATION KEY*** It seems clear at this point that the failure of Declude's licensing system is causing widespread havoc for their customers, and they are not responding to support issues, or any issues at all, and that they are in fact out of business. Therefore I am going to share the key that allows Declude to operate without authentication. This key will not allow either AVG nor Commtouch Zero Hour to work, but it will allow Declude to process email with filters and other add-ons. The key goes in your Declude.cfg file and it requires a restart. This is the same key that was shared, but I am changing the subject in order to highlight that the code is in here: CODE28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 My recommendation is to configure both Sniffer (convert your license with Pete if it was bound to Declude) and ClamAV so that you have virus protection. Matt --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? topic change - gbudb
Pete, Is the data in truncate.gbudb.net duplicated in Sniffer? Thank you -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm From: Pete McNeil madscient...@microneil.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:26 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-17 13:06, Katie La Salle-Lowery wrote: X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 20 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 20-0-0--1-f By the way: We have seen a LOT of this lately. For some reason there appear to be many Declude configurations out there that do not account for the truncate result code from SNF. I highly recommend that if you are using Declude, and especially if you have seen an increase in spam leakage, you should check your configuration and make sure that you weight result code 20 higher than other nonzero Message Sniffer result codes. On most systems that use SNF + Declude, not counting for the truncate result code can result in leaking more than 10% of spam/malware that would have been caught. Best, _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ***DECLUDE NO-AUTHENTICATION KEY***
Matt I've been told if you have sniffer running and you block SNF RETURN CODE 049 AND 055 you block most virus's. I ended up putting different weights for the return codes years ago. I score them high enough to delete on weight only and as well delete on the names Here is my setup from global config # NAMETEST CODE FILE LOCATION WEIGHT SNIFFER-SUREexternal020 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 30 0 SNIFFER-SUSPECT external040 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 8 0 SNIFFER-TRAVEL external047 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-INSURANCE external 048 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-AV-PUSH external 049 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 40 0 SNIFFER-WAREZ external050 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-SPAMWARE external 051 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 20 0 SNIFFER-SNAKEOIL external 052 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-SCAMS external053 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 20 0 SNIFFER-PORNexternal054 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 20 0 SNIFFER-MALWARE external 055 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 40 0 SNIFFER-ADVERTISING external056 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-SCHEME external057 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-CREDIT external058 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-GAMBLING external 059 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-GREYMAIL external 060 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-EXPERIMENTALexternal061 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-OBFUSCATION external062 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 SNIFFER-IP-RULES external 063 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 18 0 Here is a simple version of the above (it does not address the virus issue) but it's easy to get going FROM PETE MCNEAL ON 3/14/2013 # SNIFFER externalnonzero D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 20 0 SNFTruncate external20 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe 5 0 SNFCaution external40 D:\IMail\declude\Sniffer3.0\SNFClient.exe-10 0 I installed clamwin and added this to my virus config file After installing change the file locations to yours and give it a try. There are 2 lines (in case this wraps) the second line begins VIRUSCODE 1 #CLAMSCAM USED BY US SCANFILE1 C:\Progra~1\ClamWin\bin\clamscan.exe --verbose --database=D:\IMail\Declude\Scanners\ClamAV\db --tempdir=D:\IMail\spool\proc\work --no-summary -l report.txt VIRUSCODE 1 I have not had a single hit as I scan after after sniffer using AVAFTERJM ON in virus config. Hope this helps John -Original Message- From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:05 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ***DECLUDE NO-AUTHENTICATION KEY*** So what needs to be done with ClamAV? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ***DECLUDE NO-AUTHENTICATION KEY*** It seems clear at this point that the failure of Declude's licensing system is causing widespread havoc for their customers, and they are not responding to support issues, or any issues at all, and that they are in fact out of business. Therefore I am going to share the key that allows Declude to operate without authentication. This key will not allow either AVG nor Commtouch Zero Hour to work, but it will allow Declude to process email with filters and other add-ons. The key goes in your Declude.cfg file and it requires a restart. This is the same key that was shared, but I am changing the subject in order to highlight that the code is in here: CODE28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 My recommendation is to configure both Sniffer (convert your license with Pete if it was bound to Declude) and ClamAV so that you have virus protection. Matt --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? topic change - gbudb
On 2013-04-17 15:20, Nick Hayer wrote: Is the data in truncate.gbudb.net duplicated in Sniffer? No. Each SNF node has it's own view of the world. The truncate bl has an aggregate view from all SNF nodes. That means that it's good to use truncate because it will know about IPs that you may not have seen yet at your system. Best, _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IS INVALID KEY
Phew - thanks for posting this. This WAS scary. Within a few minutes I had hundreds of spam emails in my inbox... Stopped the SMTP service and Queue service. This CODE did seem to help! -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Thanks David, So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the Bypass key? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix vs. using the special bypass license code? Does one enable more functions that the other? -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off? So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer license code? -Original Message- From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0 -Message d'origine- De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the diag file: 04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B] IS INVALID KEY Did someone say something about new keys? -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the Sniffer license is invalid. How is that? So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows this: Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics Compilation Platform: SmarterMail Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc. Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net Declude Key redacted So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone? -Original Message- From: Brian Baker Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else? - Original Message - From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude... Todd -Original Message- On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote: I have reverted to a system that works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Looks like the website is back up again and the list is working. Not sure what's going on. Has anyone had any response from Declude via phone or email ? I can confirm what Matt is saying there is a key for no validation. It was put into the software for this precise yet unfortunate scenario. David Barker Mail’s Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com Office: 703.988.3605 x7015 -Original Message- From: Matt [mailto:for...@mailpure.com] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 11:02 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Pete, There is such a thing. I lobbied Dave for this back when they went to a subscription model. It was for select users that had the lifetime licenses that were concerned about the authentication servers. I can't say for sure that this doesn't deal with their servers at all (I hope not). Maybe Dave can verify this. I'm willing to share the details of this once I am more certain that Declude is completely done. This license will not allow for AVG or Commtouch updates, but it will allow Declude to operate without validation as far as I know. Matt On 4/10/2013 6:16 PM, Pete McNeil wrote: On 2013-04-10 16:21, John Dobbin wrote: With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? I don't recall where, but I heard a rumor that there was a forever license code somewhere for Declude. Anybody know anything about that? If Declude just evaporates without saying another word that would be a good thing to have. _M --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
On 2013-04-10 16:21, John Dobbin wrote: With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? I don't recall where, but I heard a rumor that there was a forever license code somewhere for Declude. Anybody know anything about that? If Declude just evaporates without saying another word that would be a good thing to have. _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Thank you for your email. I will be out of the office from 4/15/2013 until 4/19/2013. Dur
Everyone better add a filter to delete messages with Dan's name until he gets back. Can you say viscious circle? -Original Message- From: Daniel Slentz [mailto:dsle...@oasisol.com] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:19 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Thank you for your email. I will be out of the office from 4/15/2013 until 4/19/2013. Dur Thank you for your email. I will be out of the office from 4/15/2013 until 4/19/2013. During that time I will have limited access to email but will respond upon my return. If you require an immediate response, please contact ad...@oasisol.com. Have a great day Dan Slentz Network Engineer Oasis Online 775-423-6277 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Did the mail list just come alive ??? -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:17 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? On 2013-04-10 16:21, John Dobbin wrote: With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? I don't recall where, but I heard a rumor that there was a forever license code somewhere for Declude. Anybody know anything about that? If Declude just evaporates without saying another word that would be a good thing to have. _M -- Pete McNeil, President MicroNeil Research Corporation www.microneil.com 703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Pete, There is such a thing. I lobbied Dave for this back when they went to a subscription model. It was for select users that had the lifetime licenses that were concerned about the authentication servers. I can't say for sure that this doesn't deal with their servers at all (I hope not). Maybe Dave can verify this. I'm willing to share the details of this once I am more certain that Declude is completely done. This license will not allow for AVG or Commtouch updates, but it will allow Declude to operate without validation as far as I know. Matt On 4/10/2013 6:16 PM, Pete McNeil wrote: On 2013-04-10 16:21, John Dobbin wrote: With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? I don't recall where, but I heard a rumor that there was a forever license code somewhere for Declude. Anybody know anything about that? If Declude just evaporates without saying another word that would be a good thing to have. _M --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Is this list still working? Thanks John Dobbin Pen Publishing Interactive - http://www.penpublishing.com -Original Message- From: Dave Beckstrom [mailto:db...@atving.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 3:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Someone should start up a new discussion list that everyone can join before this one goes away. It would be good to have a place to continue collboration. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
No, there is no one here except us chickens :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ain%27t_Nobody_Here_But_Us_Chickens On 4/10/2013 3:10 PM, John Dobbin wrote: Is this list still working? Thanks John Dobbin Pen Publishing Interactive - http://www.penpublishing.com -Original Message- From: Dave Beckstrom [mailto:db...@atving.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 3:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Someone should start up a new discussion list that everyone can join before this one goes away. It would be good to have a place to continue collboration. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- Herb Guenther Lanex, LLC www.lanex.com (262)789-0966x102 Office (262)789-0966x200 (off hours or if out of office) This e-mail is confidential and is for the use of the intended recipient(s)only. If you are not an intended recipient please advise us of our error by return e-mail then delete this e-mail and any attached files. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server. Sincerely, Randy A. John Dobbin jo...@penpublishing.com wrote: So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
No offence taken J Feel free to email Declude or call them. David From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server. Sincerely, Randy A. John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Well their site has been down for at least 8hr so far and from what I can tell our Commtouch subscription has stopped working since then. SPAM increased 4x since this morning starting around 3AM. Thought it was a config issue after I got a email from Declude that I needed to upgrade to avoid issues after 3/30/2013. This is not looking good. From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server. Sincerely, Randy A. John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Randy the web site is now down. AVG has not been updating since last month. Commtouch will begin to fail soon. Sounds like they went upside down. You may never hear another word from them. once bills don't get taken care things will stop. Search for David's email a few days ago and get the latest interim version and last AVG DB if you still can. I did the update and it fixed the growing diag.txt issue see if you can get CLAM going for virus Call Pete over at ARM Research to have Declude call sniffer directly is you use it. I have now clue if at some point Declude simply stops if there is no one home at Declude. David is a good resource, Pete may have other programs to call his product. Dig out your wallet and call Ipswitch and turn on virus and premium spam. it's a mess From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server. Sincerely, Randy A. John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Best regards, Andrew Andrew Lobel Thinking Fish problem solving technology Office 020 7100 , Direct 020 3393 1727 On 10 Apr 2013, at 21:53, Rick redbara...@qwest.netmailto:redbara...@qwest.net wrote: Well their site has been down for at least 8hr so far and from what I can tell our Commtouch subscription has stopped working since then. SPAM increased 4x since this morning starting around 3AM. Thought it was a config issue after I got a email from Declude that I needed to upgrade to avoid issues after 3/30/2013. This is not looking good. From: ra...@globalweb.usmailto:ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.commailto:Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server. Sincerely, Randy A. John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.commailto:Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.commailto:imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.commailto:imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.commailto:imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Hi Dave, Can you tell us who the owners are of Declude and in what state it is incorporated? We might be able to find out if they’ve filed for bankruptcy or other legal proceedings. Thanks, Ben From: David Barker Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:47 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? No offence taken J Feel free to email Declude or call them. David From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server. Sincerely, Randy A. John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Robert look in the declude log file, for CT-BULK or CT-SPAM (depending on how you set it up in your global.cfg file AT 2:18 Pacific time today mine was still working Use the links below and download the data. John From: Robert Grosshandler [mailto:r...@igive.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:00 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? How are you determining that commtouch isn't working? From: Rick [mailto:redbara...@qwest.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:53 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Well their site has been down for at least 8hr so far and from what I can tell our Commtouch subscription has stopped working since then. SPAM increased 4x since this morning starting around 3AM. Thought it was a config issue after I got a email from Declude that I needed to upgrade to avoid issues after 3/30/2013. This is not looking good. From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server. Sincerely, Randy A. John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Does this help? http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=22563280 From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:15 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Hi Dave, Can you tell us who the owners are of Declude and in what state it is incorporated? We might be able to find out if they’ve filed for bankruptcy or other legal proceedings. Thanks, Ben From: David Barker mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:47 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? No offence taken J Feel free to email Declude or call them. David From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server. Sincerely, Randy A. John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Thanks. Mine too. From: John Doyle [mailto:jdo...@spicehunter.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Robert look in the declude log file, for CT-BULK or CT-SPAM (depending on how you set it up in your global.cfg file AT 2:18 Pacific time today mine was still working Use the links below and download the data. John _ From: Robert Grosshandler [mailto:r...@igive.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:00 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? How are you determining that commtouch isn’t working? From: Rick [mailto:redbara...@qwest.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:53 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Well their site has been down for at least 8hr so far and from what I can tell our Commtouch subscription has stopped working since then. SPAM increased 4x since this morning starting around 3AM. Thought it was a config issue after I got a email from Declude that I needed to upgrade to avoid issues after 3/30/2013. This is not looking good. From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server. Sincerely, Randy A. John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Please don’t spend any money until you have at least spoken to us. If we can’t help you perhaps we can point you in the right direction. David From: John Doyle [mailto:jdo...@spicehunter.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:59 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Randy the web site is now down. AVG has not been updating since last month. Commtouch will begin to fail soon. Sounds like they went upside down. You may never hear another word from them. once bills don't get taken care things will stop. Search for David's email a few days ago and get the latest interim version and last AVG DB if you still can. I did the update and it fixed the growing diag.txt issue see if you can get CLAM going for virus Call Pete over at ARM Research to have Declude call sniffer directly is you use it. I have now clue if at some point Declude simply stops if there is no one home at Declude. David is a good resource, Pete may have other programs to call his product. Dig out your wallet and call Ipswitch and turn on virus and premium spam. it's a mess _ From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server. Sincerely, Randy A. John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away? What are people looking at to migrate to? Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David) -Original Message- From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
David has helped me with a Declude issue quite recently as well. I have always received good support from David and Linda and look forward to continuing to do business with them and wish them the best of luck in their new venture! Katie LaSalle-Lowery ka...@centric.net 1120 S. Russell; Ste B Missoula, MT 59801 ph (406)549-3337 fax (406)541-9338 -Original Message- From: declude [mailto:decl...@mail.net1media.com] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:59 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Sadly, no one from Declude has ever gotten back to me. On the plus side, my credit card was never charged. In a very gracious move, David Barker reached out to me. He and Linda spent their own time and got my problem resolved! They have started a new business, Mails Best Friend. It is new and they are still working out the details. He can be contacted at david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com. With this kind of service, I expect to see great things from them. Don -- Original Message -- From: SM Admin imailad...@bcwebhost.net Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:10:57 -0700 So, has no one still heard nothing from Declude? This is my favorite anti-spam service and I would hate to lose them. Ben - Original Message - From: declude To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service agreements. A full week later, they both still come up as expired. All phone calls and emails have gone unanswered. I left voice mails for Tech support, Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John. I emailed both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com. I don't know where to go from here. A very sad time for Declude. Don Sent via the WebMail system at net1media.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Sent via the WebMail system at net1media.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
David and Linda have always provided outstanding service. - Michael Cummins -Original Message- From: Katie La Salle-Lowery [mailto:ka...@centric.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:15 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? David has helped me with a Declude issue quite recently as well. I have always received good support from David and Linda and look forward to continuing to do business with them and wish them the best of luck in their new venture! Katie LaSalle-Lowery ka...@centric.net 1120 S. Russell; Ste B Missoula, MT 59801 ph (406)549-3337 fax (406)541-9338 -Original Message- From: declude [mailto:decl...@mail.net1media.com] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:59 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Sadly, no one from Declude has ever gotten back to me. On the plus side, my credit card was never charged. In a very gracious move, David Barker reached out to me. He and Linda spent their own time and got my problem resolved! They have started a new business, Mails Best Friend. It is new and they are still working out the details. He can be contacted at david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com. With this kind of service, I expect to see great things from them. Don -- Original Message -- From: SM Admin imailad...@bcwebhost.net Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:10:57 -0700 So, has no one still heard nothing from Declude? This is my favorite anti-spam service and I would hate to lose them. Ben - Original Message - From: declude To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service agreements. A full week later, they both still come up as expired. All phone calls and emails have gone unanswered. I left voice mails for Tech support, Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John. I emailed both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com. I don't know where to go from here. A very sad time for Declude. Don Sent via the WebMail system at net1media.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Sent via the WebMail system at net1media.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stopped logging, high CPU usage, slow processing
If you upgraded to Declude 4.11.09 to avoid the AVG licence issue, you’ll find that it was a bandaid, and that build’s usefulness also expired contemporaneously with David and Linda’s employee status, on January 31, 2013. C:\IMailstrings decludeproc.exe| grep LicBeg LicBeg, Ver=1.1, Name=Declude, Exp=2013-01-31, +Av, Sign=blahblahblah You still received updates for a grace period (the files with zero bytes are normal for the Declude implementation of AVG): C:\IMaildir C:\IMail\declude\scanners\AVG\db Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is 9471-8A74 Directory of C:\IMail\declude\scanners\AVG\db 03/22/2013 07:47 AMDIR . 03/22/2013 07:47 AMDIR .. 03/19/2013 02:44 PM 0 avi7.avg 03/19/2013 02:44 PM 0 microavi.avg 03/19/2013 02:44 PM 0 miniavi.avg 03/22/2013 07:47 AM71,002,023 incavi.avm 4 File(s) 71,002,023 bytes 2 Dir(s) 11,036,254,208 bytes free C:\IMail This might be addressed in the latest (last?) build which you can obtain through the interim downloads website (log into your client support site for the link). If I remember correctly, that build is on 2013-03-15 with v4.12.02 that specifically cites in the change log ReadMe.txt: 4.12.02 == Fix: update AVG Key 4.12.01 == Fix: AVG Bug 4.12.00 == Fix: update AVG Key Which (I think) also fixes the “ERROR: Failed Initialize AVG 183” being spammed all over your c:\imail\declude\diags.txt Andrew. From: Dean Lawrence [mailto:dean...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 7:33 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stopped logging, high CPU usage, slow processing Thanks Dave, will do. On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM, David Barker dbar...@declude.com wrote: Dean, There is currently an issue with the AVG that we are currently working on. As far as backup in the \proc directory and the 0 Kb log that seems like a different issue. Can you please contact supp...@declude.com for assistance. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 office 978.988.1311 fax dbar...@declude.com mailto:dbar...@declude.com From: Dean Lawrence [mailto:dean...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:18 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stopped logging, high CPU usage, slow processing The subject says it all. This morning, declude stated to have high cpu usage, the log file is 0k and messages are backing up in the proc directory. I looked in the diags.txt and I see this message: ERROR: Failed Initialize AVG 183Daisy Chain smtp32.exe I was running 4.11 and upgraded to 4.11.09 and still have the same results. Any thoughts? -- --- Dean M. Lawrence INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701 tel:888.438.4381%20ext.%20701 w // www.idatatech.com f // www.facebook.com/idatatech t // www.twitter.com/idatatech Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- --- Dean M. Lawrence INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701 w // www.idatatech.com f // www.facebook.com/idatatech t // www.twitter.com/idatatech Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. This message (and any associated files) may contain confidential, proprietary and/or privileged material and access to these materials by anyone other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. Unauthorized recipients are required to maintain confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of these materials by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original. Ce message et tout document qui y est éventuellement joint peuvent contenir de l’information confidentielle ou exclusive. L’accès à cette information par quiconque autre que le destinataire désigné en est donc interdit. Les personnes ou les entités non autorisées doivent respecter la confidentialité
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stopped logging, high CPU usage, slow processing
If you don’t have the last build 4.12.02 get it now! http://interim.declude.com/41202/ U: Interim P: decinterimv4 Also get the latest AVG DB at: http://downloads.declude.com/AVG/ U: DecDown P: DecDown Sunday, April 07, 2013 7:37 PM 72153339 incavi.avm http://downloads.declude.com/AVG/incavi.avm Once you have upgraded to the latest version drop the http://downloads.declude.com/AVG/incavi.avm incavi.avm into \declude\scanners\AVG\db This should resolve the ERROR: Failed Initialize AVG 183”. If you need further assistance contact Linda linda.pagi...@mailsbestfriend.com or myself david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com David Barker Mail’s Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com http://www.mailsbestfriend.com/ Office: 703.988.3605 x7015 Mobile : 978.518.6461 cid:image001.png@01CE2B2E.8B3E9EF0 From: Colbeck, Andrew [mailto:acolb...@bentallkennedy.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 12:37 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stopped logging, high CPU usage, slow processing If you upgraded to Declude 4.11.09 to avoid the AVG licence issue, you’ll find that it was a bandaid, and that build’s usefulness also expired contemporaneously with David and Linda’s employee status, on January 31, 2013. C:\IMailstrings decludeproc.exe| grep LicBeg LicBeg, Ver=1.1, Name=Declude, Exp=2013-01-31, +Av, Sign=blahblahblah You still received updates for a grace period (the files with zero bytes are normal for the Declude implementation of AVG): C:\IMaildir C:\IMail\declude\scanners\AVG\db Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is 9471-8A74 Directory of C:\IMail\declude\scanners\AVG\db 03/22/2013 07:47 AMDIR . 03/22/2013 07:47 AMDIR .. 03/19/2013 02:44 PM 0 avi7.avg 03/19/2013 02:44 PM 0 microavi.avg 03/19/2013 02:44 PM 0 miniavi.avg 03/22/2013 07:47 AM71,002,023 incavi.avm 4 File(s) 71,002,023 bytes 2 Dir(s) 11,036,254,208 bytes free C:\IMail This might be addressed in the latest (last?) build which you can obtain through the interim downloads website (log into your client support site for the link). If I remember correctly, that build is on 2013-03-15 with v4.12.02 that specifically cites in the change log ReadMe.txt: 4.12.02 == Fix: update AVG Key 4.12.01 == Fix: AVG Bug 4.12.00 == Fix: update AVG Key Which (I think) also fixes the “ERROR: Failed Initialize AVG 183” being spammed all over your c:\imail\declude\diags.txt Andrew. From: Dean Lawrence [mailto:dean...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 7:33 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stopped logging, high CPU usage, slow processing Thanks Dave, will do. On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM, David Barker dbar...@declude.com wrote: Dean, There is currently an issue with the AVG that we are currently working on. As far as backup in the \proc directory and the 0 Kb log that seems like a different issue. Can you please contact supp...@declude.com for assistance. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 office 978.988.1311 fax mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com Description: Description: -declude From: Dean Lawrence [mailto:dean...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:18 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stopped logging, high CPU usage, slow processing The subject says it all. This morning, declude stated to have high cpu usage, the log file is 0k and messages are backing up in the proc directory. I looked in the diags.txt and I see this message: ERROR: Failed Initialize AVG 183Daisy Chain smtp32.exe I was running 4.11 and upgraded to 4.11.09 and still have the same results. Any thoughts? -- --- Dean M. Lawrence INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701 tel:888.438.4381%20ext.%20701 w // www.idatatech.com f // www.facebook.com/idatatech t // www.twitter.com/idatatech Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- --- Dean M. Lawrence INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701 w // www.idatatech.com f // www.facebook.com/idatatech t
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Someone should start up a new discussion list that everyone can join before this one goes away. It would be good to have a place to continue collboration. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Yes I will be the someone. When this list dies make sure you email me you contact so I can get you on a new list. David Barker Mail’s Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com Office: 703.988.3605 x7015 Mobile : 978.518.6461 -Original Message- From: Dave Beckstrom [mailto:db...@atving.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 4:09 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Someone should start up a new discussion list that everyone can join before this one goes away. It would be good to have a place to continue collboration. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: The Answer
Hi Dave, This sounds great. Do you foresee this being the end of development for Declude? Do you know what happened to the new owners of Declude? Thanks, Ben - Original Message - From: David Barker To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 8:35 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: The Answer Declude users, As many of you may already know Linda Pagillo and I left Declude in January of 2013. Long story short they “Killed The Goose That Laid the Golden Egg” … my guess … the end is nigh! However it is not all bad news. We have started a new company called Mail’s Best Friend, not only can we continue to support your Declude product but we have established several strategic relationships that allow us to offer multiple alternate solutions, everything from Message Sniffer, to Cloud based solutions to Hosted Exchange, Mail's Best Friend provides best-of-breed support and integration services for all email solutions. We have always envisioned this as a community effort so the time has come to become independent and build this our way! With that said if you need assistance with Declude please contact us so we can help you either maintain what you have or find you an alternate upgrade path. Same good service, same great people… this time without the corporate interference. Hope to see you soon. Sincerely, David Barker Mail’s Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com Office: 703.988.3605 x7015 Mobile : 978.518.6461 . --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. image001.png
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: The Answer
It looks to be the end of Declude development, (unless they make it open source) however the product still has within it sufficient functionality to add value to anyone who uses it, especially if you add a product like Message Sniffer to the mix. David From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 8:16 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: The Answer Hi Dave, This sounds great. Do you foresee this being the end of development for Declude? Do you know what happened to the new owners of Declude? Thanks, Ben - Original Message - From: David Barker mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 8:35 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: The Answer Declude users, As many of you may already know Linda Pagillo and I left Declude in January of 2013. Long story short they “ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goose_That_Laid_the_Golden_Eggs Killed The Goose That Laid the Golden Egg” … my guess … the end is nigh! However it is not all bad news. We have started a new company called Mail’s Best Friend, not only can we continue to support your Declude product but we have established several strategic relationships that allow us to offer multiple alternate solutions, everything from Message Sniffer, to Cloud based solutions to Hosted Exchange, Mail's Best Friend provides best-of-breed support and integration services for all email solutions. We have always envisioned this as a community effort so the time has come to become independent and build this our way! With that said if you need assistance with Declude please contact us so we can help you either maintain what you have or find you an alternate upgrade path. Same good service, same great people… this time without the corporate interference. Hope to see you soon. Sincerely, David Barker Mail’s Best Friend Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com http://www.mailsbestfriend.com/ Office: 703.988.3605 x7015 Mobile : 978.518.6461 cid:image001.png@01CE2B2E.8B3E9EF0 . --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. image001.png
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
So, has no one still heard nothing from Declude? This is my favorite anti-spam service and I would hate to lose them. Ben - Original Message - From: declude To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service agreements. A full week later, they both still come up as expired. All phone calls and emails have gone unanswered. I left voice mails for Tech support, Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John. I emailed both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com. I don't know where to go from here. A very sad time for Declude. Don Sent via the WebMail system at net1media.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
You can probably contact the message sniffer folks directly. There's not much about Declude itself that requires updates, so long as it is working. http://armresearch.com/ Good luck, Rob -Original Message- From: declude [mailto:decl...@mail.net1media.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:22 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service agreements. A full week later, they both still come up as expired. All phone calls and emails have gone unanswered. I left voice mails for Tech support, Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John. I emailed both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com. I don't know where to go from here. A very sad time for Declude. Don Sent via the WebMail system at net1media.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
This got me thinking... There's not much about Declude itself that requires updates On this page there is mention of updating the AVG license key: http://www.declude.com/searchresults.asp?Cat=89 I'm wondering what the next expiration date is for AVG... I guess if AVG is an annual update, we'll all know real soon! - Chris On 4/3/2013 11:31 AM, Robert Grosshandler wrote: You can probably contact the message sniffer folks directly. There's not much about Declude itself that requires updates, so long as it is working. http://armresearch.com/ Good luck, Rob -Original Message- From: declude [mailto:decl...@mail.net1media.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:22 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service agreements. A full week later, they both still come up as expired. All phone calls and emails have gone unanswered. I left voice mails for Tech support, Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John. I emailed both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com. I don't know where to go from here. A very sad time for Declude. Don Sent via the WebMail system at net1media.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?
Was the transaction for renewal posted on your cc or dc? Katie LaSalle-Lowery ka...@centric.net 1120 S. Russell; Ste B Missoula, MT 59801 ph (406)549-3337 fax (406)541-9338 -Original Message- From: Robert Grosshandler [mailto:r...@igive.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:32 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? You can probably contact the message sniffer folks directly. There's not much about Declude itself that requires updates, so long as it is working. http://armresearch.com/ Good luck, Rob -Original Message- From: declude [mailto:decl...@mail.net1media.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:22 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service agreements. A full week later, they both still come up as expired. All phone calls and emails have gone unanswered. I left voice mails for Tech support, Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John. I emailed both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com. I don't know where to go from here. A very sad time for Declude. Don Sent via the WebMail system at net1media.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whois Tests?
What we really need is a test that would do a whois... and that would identify newly registered domains. Dave, I'm not sure what further you're after, as you specifically mentioned spameatingmonkeys.com and one of their tests seems to fit your bill exactly: http://spameatingmonkey.com/lists.html#SEM-FRESH10 Similarly, the red list at URIBL, i.e. http://www.uribl.com/about.shtml uses freshness as one of the indicators. Andrew. -Original Message- From: Sanford Whiteman [mailto:sa...@figureone.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:14 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whois Tests? That is/was Day Old Bread's goal. -- S. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. This message (and any associated files) may contain confidential, proprietary and/or privileged material and access to these materials by anyone other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. Unauthorized recipients are required to maintain confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of these materials by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original. Ce message et tout document qui y est éventuellement joint peuvent contenir de l’information confidentielle ou exclusive. L’accès à cette information par quiconque autre que le destinataire désigné en est donc interdit. Les personnes ou les entités non autorisées doivent respecter la confidentialité de cette information. La lecture, la retransmission, la communication ou toute autre utilisation de cette information par une personne ou une entité non autorisée est strictement interdite. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, veuillez nous en aviser immédiatement et le détruire. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whois Tests?
That is/was Day Old Bread's goal. -- S. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Very succinct. But I need further explanation... Forget forwarding. We'd like to keep it to off-load the server and network traffic, but we can live without. However, I need one server to be both recursive for our mail server and non-recursive for our authoritative zones. We don't have to worry about our internal workstations because those I can set up to directly use the Comcast DNS servers (small network so I don't need internal DNS). But the mail server presents us the same kind of problem. The perfect solution would be a setting that tells the MS DNS server to accept recursive requests only from specified client IPs, but I don't see any way to do that. Any ideas? Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: Scott Fosseen Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:33 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Another way to look at it. Recursion: Off: DNS server can only answer queries from its local zone files. Queries for any other records returns no results. Used when server is authoritative for Public domains (declude.com, nasa.gov) On: DNS server will try to answer all Queries. If it does not know the answer it will call out to other DNS servers to get the answer. ( I run both. I have 4 non-recursive DNS servers for hosting zone files, and 2 recursive DNS servers for workstations to point to. ) Forwarders: Valid only if Recurion is on. If Forwarder is set and DNS server does not know the answer to a query, the DNS server will ask the Forwarder DNS server for the answer. If no Forwarder is set and the DNS server does not know the answer to a query the DNS server will contact the Root servers and find the answer itself. My experience with MS DNS is that forwarders are setup at installation because the installer assumes a blank forwarder means the DNS server will be unable to lookup addresses. Because DNS works with a forwarder the setting gets left on. About the only time I recommend forwarders is if the site uses something like OpenDNS for Content Filtering, in which case all queries should go tot he OpenDNS servers. -Original Message- From: Sanford Whiteman sa...@cypressintegrated.com Sent 3/15/2013 8:08:14 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? The challenge for me is in not using forwarding. For MS DNS servers, forwarding and recursion are tied together; turn off one and you lose both. Incorrect. Turning off recursion turns off forwarders, but not vice versa. You can have a perfectly operating recursive MS DNS server that does not delegate recursion to any other server (forwarding amounts to delegating recursion, but the server as a whole is still recursive, thus the unidirectional relationship between the two settings). You only MUST use forwarders if you are not allowed to pass DNS requests out past your ISP's border (similar to when you have to use the ISP's outbound SMTP gateway). So if I turn off recursion and forwarding, then all my DNS requests will have to go to the root servers for resolution. No, if you turn off recursion completely, you can't get responses for domains that aren't on your box. No one is going to do it for you -- the root servers sure won't. I do understand the dangers of being an open resolver You're mixing up a lot of terms here. An open resolver is one that will perform recursive lookups for any address on the open internet. but I am also under the impression that resolving only through root servers is bad. It's not bad, it doesn't exist. Since MS seems to recommend forwarding I doubt that... With a stub zone, queries to URIBL.com are resolved directly through the URIBL Name servers... ... and there is no reason to go down this road. If you can get DNS requests past your ISP, there's no reason to have forwarders. -- S. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Ahhh, yes, but that’s the answer I don't want. Right now, I could take our existing old authoritative DNS server and make it non-recursive, then put a recursive name server on the mail server itself, but listening only to the internal IP and that would seem to follow your suggestion. Although, when I look at the Interface tab in Properties, I don't see a local or 127.0.0.1 IP. Maybe it's that funny IPv6 string I see? The problem is that we're downsizing and consolidating this stuff, so we'd like to move all the DNS functions over to just the mail server and retire the old DNS server. In that case, of course, we only have one DNS server. I've been looking online to see how others might handle this. It seems that BIND can do this one way or another. You might be able to tell it to listen for recursive requests only on certain IPs or you can disable all recursion for the server but then override it for each of your authoritative zones. Unfortunately, I have yet to find either of those features as part of MS DNS and I'm not about to launch into the world of BIND. The second idea was to consolidate the DNS server onto the mail server, enable recursion, but then block recursive requests from the outside world. For example, use a firewall to block recursive requests (but only those that are recursive) from the outside. I found some online discussion of people trying to do this, possibly using port 53, but no indications that anyone actually succeeded. So for now, I'm still stuck. -Original Message- From: Darin Cox Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:11 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Hi Ben, You'll want to set up at least two DNS servers for that. One recursive for mail server lookups, most likely on the mail server. The DNS service on the mail server should not be publicly accessible. The other non-recursive DNS server can be used as your nameserver and, of course, publicly accessible. Since you need multiple nameservers anyway, this is not likely an issue. And you'll want them on separate subnets, network connections, etc... as much separation as you can get to avoid common points of failure. Another reason to separate the nameservers from your web and email services is that if you host any websites that process credit cards, PCI-DSS compliance requires any publicly accessible DNS services on the web or email server to have recursion turned off. Hope this helps, Darin. -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:55 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Thanks, Sandy. Of course, if I had understood everything perfectly (or even reasonably), I wouldn't have had to post my questions here. On our old DNS server that ran under Windows 2000 Advanced Server, you could actually toggle Forwarding and Recursion separately. However, under Windows 2008 server this isn't the case. You are correct that it's not symmetric as I claimed, although I really did no better. Turning off recursion from the Advanced properties tab turns off forwarding. Turning off forwarding I assume is done by just not having any forwarders listed. So what I said previously was wrong, although I don't see where it really changes what I was thinking about. The challenge here is that our DNS server has two purposes: it is the authoritative name server for a bunch of zone and it is also the primary name server used by our mail server. For purposes of being authoritative for our hosted zones we don't need either recursion or forwarding. Requests come to us, get what they need, and then go away. For purposes of our mail server we need our DNS server to be recursive, at the least. We set up forwarding to the Comcast name servers to offload server and network traffic. They can do all the recursion and then pass back the results to our DNS server, which passes the results back to our mail server. So I gather the recommendation here is to skip the forwarding and do all the work ourselves. I don't understand your remark about open resolver because you don't explain where I'm wrong in my understanding. What I understand is that if you have a DNS server that does recursion on a public IP, then it is an open resolver and could be attacked. Is that wrong? And if we turn off forwarding but leave on recursion, then won't our name server still be an open resolver? It needs to be that way so that the mail server can resolve its requests against it. In theory, I only need our name server to be recursive on requests from our mail server and to be non-recursive for everyone else. However, I haven't seen any way to configure that. Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: Sanford Whiteman Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:08 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? The challenge for me is in not using forwarding
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Ben, You may be able to run multiple instances of BIND on different IPs on the same server, or a combination of MS DNS and BIND on different IPs on the same server, but you _really_ don't want to. Downsizing redundancy in your nameserver DNS is just plain the wrong thing to do. The reason you're not finding the answers you want is that you're asking the wrong question. Sorry, Darin. -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Ahhh, yes, but that’s the answer I don't want. Right now, I could take our existing old authoritative DNS server and make it non-recursive, then put a recursive name server on the mail server itself, but listening only to the internal IP and that would seem to follow your suggestion. Although, when I look at the Interface tab in Properties, I don't see a local or 127.0.0.1 IP. Maybe it's that funny IPv6 string I see? The problem is that we're downsizing and consolidating this stuff, so we'd like to move all the DNS functions over to just the mail server and retire the old DNS server. In that case, of course, we only have one DNS server. I've been looking online to see how others might handle this. It seems that BIND can do this one way or another. You might be able to tell it to listen for recursive requests only on certain IPs or you can disable all recursion for the server but then override it for each of your authoritative zones. Unfortunately, I have yet to find either of those features as part of MS DNS and I'm not about to launch into the world of BIND. The second idea was to consolidate the DNS server onto the mail server, enable recursion, but then block recursive requests from the outside world. For example, use a firewall to block recursive requests (but only those that are recursive) from the outside. I found some online discussion of people trying to do this, possibly using port 53, but no indications that anyone actually succeeded. So for now, I'm still stuck. -Original Message- From: Darin Cox Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:11 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Hi Ben, You'll want to set up at least two DNS servers for that. One recursive for mail server lookups, most likely on the mail server. The DNS service on the mail server should not be publicly accessible. The other non-recursive DNS server can be used as your nameserver and, of course, publicly accessible. Since you need multiple nameservers anyway, this is not likely an issue. And you'll want them on separate subnets, network connections, etc... as much separation as you can get to avoid common points of failure. Another reason to separate the nameservers from your web and email services is that if you host any websites that process credit cards, PCI-DSS compliance requires any publicly accessible DNS services on the web or email server to have recursion turned off. Hope this helps, Darin. -Original Message- From: SM Admin Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:55 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Thanks, Sandy. Of course, if I had understood everything perfectly (or even reasonably), I wouldn't have had to post my questions here. On our old DNS server that ran under Windows 2000 Advanced Server, you could actually toggle Forwarding and Recursion separately. However, under Windows 2008 server this isn't the case. You are correct that it's not symmetric as I claimed, although I really did no better. Turning off recursion from the Advanced properties tab turns off forwarding. Turning off forwarding I assume is done by just not having any forwarders listed. So what I said previously was wrong, although I don't see where it really changes what I was thinking about. The challenge here is that our DNS server has two purposes: it is the authoritative name server for a bunch of zone and it is also the primary name server used by our mail server. For purposes of being authoritative for our hosted zones we don't need either recursion or forwarding. Requests come to us, get what they need, and then go away. For purposes of our mail server we need our DNS server to be recursive, at the least. We set up forwarding to the Comcast name servers to offload server and network traffic. They can do all the recursion and then pass back the results to our DNS server, which passes the results back to our mail server. So I gather the recommendation here is to skip the forwarding and do all the work ourselves. I don't understand your remark about open resolver because you don't explain where I'm wrong in my understanding. What I understand is that if you have a DNS server that does recursion on a public IP, then it is an open resolver and could be attacked. Is that wrong? And if we turn off forwarding but leave on recursion
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
If you're that small - how many PUBLIC domains do you have to be authoritative for? What is the change frequency in a year, that you need this to be on your local DNS. For redundancy and availability purposes, why not host your public DNS at your registry, block incoming DNS queries at your border router/firewall - and set up your strinctly IN-HOUSE DNS server recursive? -Original Message- From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:04 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Very succinct. But I need further explanation... Forget forwarding. We'd like to keep it to off-load the server and network traffic, but we can live without. However, I need one server to be both recursive for our mail server and non-recursive for our authoritative zones. We don't have to worry about our internal workstations because those I can set up to directly use the Comcast DNS servers (small network so I don't need internal DNS). But the mail server presents us the same kind of problem. The perfect solution would be a setting that tells the MS DNS server to accept recursive requests only from specified client IPs, but I don't see any way to do that. Any ideas? Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: Scott Fosseen Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:33 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Another way to look at it. Recursion: Off: DNS server can only answer queries from its local zone files. Queries for any other records returns no results. Used when server is authoritative for Public domains (declude.com, nasa.gov) On: DNS server will try to answer all Queries. If it does not know the answer it will call out to other DNS servers to get the answer. ( I run both. I have 4 non-recursive DNS servers for hosting zone files, and 2 recursive DNS servers for workstations to point to. ) Forwarders: Valid only if Recurion is on. If Forwarder is set and DNS server does not know the answer to a query, the DNS server will ask the Forwarder DNS server for the answer. If no Forwarder is set and the DNS server does not know the answer to a query the DNS server will contact the Root servers and find the answer itself. My experience with MS DNS is that forwarders are setup at installation because the installer assumes a blank forwarder means the DNS server will be unable to lookup addresses. Because DNS works with a forwarder the setting gets left on. About the only time I recommend forwarders is if the site uses something like OpenDNS for Content Filtering, in which case all queries should go tot he OpenDNS servers. -Original Message- From: Sanford Whiteman sa...@cypressintegrated.com Sent 3/15/2013 8:08:14 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? The challenge for me is in not using forwarding. For MS DNS servers, forwarding and recursion are tied together; turn off one and you lose both. Incorrect. Turning off recursion turns off forwarders, but not vice versa. You can have a perfectly operating recursive MS DNS server that does not delegate recursion to any other server (forwarding amounts to delegating recursion, but the server as a whole is still recursive, thus the unidirectional relationship between the two settings). You only MUST use forwarders if you are not allowed to pass DNS requests out past your ISP's border (similar to when you have to use the ISP's outbound SMTP gateway). So if I turn off recursion and forwarding, then all my DNS requests will have to go to the root servers for resolution. No, if you turn off recursion completely, you can't get responses for domains that aren't on your box. No one is going to do it for you -- the root servers sure won't. I do understand the dangers of being an open resolver You're mixing up a lot of terms here. An open resolver is one that will perform recursive lookups for any address on the open internet. but I am also under the impression that resolving only through root servers is bad. It's not bad, it doesn't exist. Since MS seems to recommend forwarding I doubt that... With a stub zone, queries to URIBL.com are resolved directly through the URIBL Name servers... ... and there is no reason to go down this road. If you can get DNS requests past your ISP, there's no reason to have forwarders. -- S. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Ben, you'd find Simple DNS Plus an easy cross-grade. We have used it exclusively for all user-facing DNS for many years. We only use MS DNS as a stealth primary. Also, as Andy said, it's hard to believe your authoritiative domains require more than a few dollars a month worth of DNS hosting -- some hosts even have a free plan you might fall under. -- S. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
The challenge for me is in not using forwarding. For MS DNS servers, forwarding and recursion are tied together; turn off one and you lose both. Incorrect. Turning off recursion turns off forwarders, but not vice versa. You can have a perfectly operating recursive MS DNS server that does not delegate recursion to any other server (forwarding amounts to delegating recursion, but the server as a whole is still recursive, thus the unidirectional relationship between the two settings). You only MUST use forwarders if you are not allowed to pass DNS requests out past your ISP's border (similar to when you have to use the ISP's outbound SMTP gateway). So if I turn off recursion and forwarding, then all my DNS requests will have to go to the root servers for resolution. No, if you turn off recursion completely, you can't get responses for domains that aren't on your box. No one is going to do it for you -- the root servers sure won't. I do understand the dangers of being an open resolver You're mixing up a lot of terms here. An open resolver is one that will perform recursive lookups for any address on the open internet. but I am also under the impression that resolving only through root servers is bad. It's not bad, it doesn't exist. Since MS seems to recommend forwarding I doubt that... With a stub zone, queries to URIBL.com are resolved directly through the URIBL Name servers... ... and there is no reason to go down this road. If you can get DNS requests past your ISP, there's no reason to have forwarders. -- S. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Thanks, Sandy. Of course, if I had understood everything perfectly (or even reasonably), I wouldn't have had to post my questions here. On our old DNS server that ran under Windows 2000 Advanced Server, you could actually toggle Forwarding and Recursion separately. However, under Windows 2008 server this isn't the case. You are correct that it's not symmetric as I claimed, although I really did no better. Turning off recursion from the Advanced properties tab turns off forwarding. Turning off forwarding I assume is done by just not having any forwarders listed. So what I said previously was wrong, although I don't see where it really changes what I was thinking about. The challenge here is that our DNS server has two purposes: it is the authoritative name server for a bunch of zone and it is also the primary name server used by our mail server. For purposes of being authoritative for our hosted zones we don't need either recursion or forwarding. Requests come to us, get what they need, and then go away. For purposes of our mail server we need our DNS server to be recursive, at the least. We set up forwarding to the Comcast name servers to offload server and network traffic. They can do all the recursion and then pass back the results to our DNS server, which passes the results back to our mail server. So I gather the recommendation here is to skip the forwarding and do all the work ourselves. I don't understand your remark about open resolver because you don't explain where I'm wrong in my understanding. What I understand is that if you have a DNS server that does recursion on a public IP, then it is an open resolver and could be attacked. Is that wrong? And if we turn off forwarding but leave on recursion, then won't our name server still be an open resolver? It needs to be that way so that the mail server can resolve its requests against it. In theory, I only need our name server to be recursive on requests from our mail server and to be non-recursive for everyone else. However, I haven't seen any way to configure that. Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: Sanford Whiteman Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:08 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? The challenge for me is in not using forwarding. For MS DNS servers, forwarding and recursion are tied together; turn off one and you lose both. Incorrect. Turning off recursion turns off forwarders, but not vice versa. You can have a perfectly operating recursive MS DNS server that does not delegate recursion to any other server (forwarding amounts to delegating recursion, but the server as a whole is still recursive, thus the unidirectional relationship between the two settings). You only MUST use forwarders if you are not allowed to pass DNS requests out past your ISP's border (similar to when you have to use the ISP's outbound SMTP gateway). So if I turn off recursion and forwarding, then all my DNS requests will have to go to the root servers for resolution. No, if you turn off recursion completely, you can't get responses for domains that aren't on your box. No one is going to do it for you -- the root servers sure won't. I do understand the dangers of being an open resolver You're mixing up a lot of terms here. An open resolver is one that will perform recursive lookups for any address on the open internet. but I am also under the impression that resolving only through root servers is bad. It's not bad, it doesn't exist. Since MS seems to recommend forwarding I doubt that... With a stub zone, queries to URIBL.com are resolved directly through the URIBL Name servers... ... and there is no reason to go down this road. If you can get DNS requests past your ISP, there's no reason to have forwarders. -- S. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Thank you Andrew. Every time you write something its an education. Much appreciated. -Nick MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574 Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net General and Non-Emergency support ticket: http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm From: Colbeck, Andrew acolb...@bentallkennedy.com Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:11 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Per point 3. Once URIBL starts rejected the requests then every request gets scored as bad Read the URIBL.com site News, and Implementation sections. This is because a rejection isn't quiet, it returns the value 127.0.0.1, so I'll assume that SM is triggering on a result of * instead of 127.0.0.2 and you'll want to go back to SmarterMail to figure out how to be specific about that acceptable response. Perhaps you'll want to use specific tests like the Black test or the Red test instead of the Multi test. Per point 5. I'm not really sure how URIBL even knows which DNS server I use ...last year, I had my SM server configured to use the Comcast national DNS servers Well, that's pretty clear, a lot of people use ComCast, so ComCast has been flagged as a heavy hitter and queries through their servers to URIBL will cause URIBL to respond to Comcast with the 127.0.0.1 value. URIBL doesn't care about your-server-asking-via-Comcast, they care about which server asked URIBL, which was ComCast. Per point 6. I was told that I need to turn off recursion on the DNS server to be considered acceptable to URIBL. Again, I don't know why. Ok, it's plausible that URIBL tests your DNS server to see if it can be abused by bad guys, but I actually doubt that they do this, and it's a red herring. You know that your mail volume is small enough to not be a heavy hitter but you are diagnosed as a heavy hitter anyway. Therefore, someone gave you this advice while trying to diagnose why you are getting heavy hitter results, i.e. that your DNS server is being abused. The big idea here is that your mail server needs to ask a DNS server to resolve stuff for it, including URIBL. However, random people on the Internet should not be able to use your DNS server, because they will certainly abuse it to throw bandwidth at someone they don't like. That's called an open resolver, see here for why that's bad http://dns.measurement-factory.com/surveys/openresolvers.html It's extremely common to use a DNS server right on your email server, and point your antispam queries at that DNS server. Some DNS servers allow you to specify the IP/subnet of allowed clients; Windows 2008 does not, it happily resolves for anyone. So instead of using client ACLs on the DNS server, make sure you're not telling your firewall to allow inbound DNS as a service on that particular IP address; because of course have a wonderful stateful firewall, it will happily allow outbound DNS and the corresponding inbound replies. For your email server to resolve DNS, you don't want to use forwarders, and you do want to use recursion. Per point 7. I tried writing to the URIBL abuse administrator but got no response Your case is pretty straightforward; perhaps they think you want too much help while they've provided what's necessary on their website already. Perhaps they're busy working on their golf swing and not reading email. If you can't reach them from your own domain, write to them from a freemail account instead of the domain that is in trouble, and cite your IP/domain. Be concise. Be polite. Don't use HTML formatting if you can help it. And don't use a legal disclaimer in your footer, because antispam/security admins are notoriously allergic to what they interpret as your attempt to legally bind their communication, and as a result they simply ignore such email. Andrew. From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:32 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Hi Andrew and thanks! The problem isn't Declude but it is spam related so I'd be interested to see if anyone else has ideas. I spent some time on the SmarterMail forums and this is what it looks like: 1. SM uses a series of built-in tests as well as external tests such as Declude. Among these are a pair of URIBL tests that are based on links embedded in the messages. 2. SM scores a hit for each bad link reported by URIBL and applies the weight score to each hit. With the default weight of 4, a message with five links rejected by URIBL would give a total score of 4 x 5 = 20. 3. Starting some time late 2012, URIBL started rejected some requests based on high volume of calls from a particular server. Various people have experienced this problem at various
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Per point 3. “Once URIBL starts rejected the requests then every request gets scored as bad” Read the URIBL.com site News, and Implementation sections. This is because a rejection isn’t quiet, it returns the value 127.0.0.1, so I’ll assume that SM is triggering on a result of “*” instead of “127.0.0.2” and you’ll want to go back to SmarterMail to figure out how to be specific about that acceptable response. Perhaps you’ll want to use specific tests like the Black test or the Red test instead of the Multi test. Per point 5. “I'm not really sure how URIBL even knows which DNS server I use ...last year, I had my SM server configured to use the Comcast national DNS servers” Well, that’s pretty clear, a lot of people use ComCast, so ComCast has been flagged as a “heavy hitter” and queries through their servers to URIBL will cause URIBL to respond to Comcast with the “127.0.0.1” value. URIBL doesn’t care about your-server-asking-via-Comcast, they care about which server asked URIBL, which was ComCast. Per point 6. “I was told that I need to turn off recursion on the DNS server to be considered acceptable to URIBL. Again, I don't know why.“ Ok, it’s plausible that URIBL tests your DNS server to see if it can be abused by bad guys, but I actually doubt that they do this, and it’s a red herring. You know that your mail volume is small enough to not be a heavy hitter but you are diagnosed as a heavy hitter anyway. Therefore, someone gave you this advice while trying to diagnose why you are getting heavy hitter results, i.e. that your DNS server is being abused. The big idea here is that your mail server needs to ask a DNS server to resolve stuff for it, including URIBL. However, random people on the Internet should not be able to use your DNS server, because they will certainly abuse it to throw bandwidth at someone they don’t like. That’s called an open resolver, see here for why that’s bad http://dns.measurement-factory.com/surveys/openresolvers.html It’s extremely common to use a DNS server right on your email server, and point your antispam queries at that DNS server. Some DNS servers allow you to specify the IP/subnet of allowed clients; Windows 2008 does not, it happily resolves for anyone. So instead of using client ACLs on the DNS server, make sure you’re not telling your firewall to allow inbound DNS as a service on that particular IP address; because of course have a wonderful stateful firewall, it will happily allow outbound DNS and the corresponding inbound replies. For your email server to resolve DNS, you don’t want to use forwarders, and you do want to use recursion. Per point 7. I tried writing to the URIBL abuse administrator but got no response Your case is pretty straightforward; perhaps they think you want too much help while they’ve provided what’s necessary on their website already. Perhaps they’re busy working on their golf swing and not reading email. If you can’t reach them from your own domain, write to them from a freemail account instead of the domain that is in trouble, and cite your IP/domain. Be concise. Be polite. Don’t use HTML formatting if you can help it. And don’t use a legal disclaimer in your footer, because antispam/security admins are notoriously allergic to what they interpret as your attempt to legally bind their communication, and as a result they simply ignore such email. Andrew. From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:32 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Hi Andrew and thanks! The problem isn't Declude but it is spam related so I'd be interested to see if anyone else has ideas. I spent some time on the SmarterMail forums and this is what it looks like: 1. SM uses a series of built-in tests as well as external tests such as Declude. Among these are a pair of URIBL tests that are based on links embedded in the messages. 2. SM scores a hit for each bad link reported by URIBL and applies the weight score to each hit. With the default weight of 4, a message with five links rejected by URIBL would give a total score of 4 x 5 = 20. 3. Starting some time late 2012, URIBL started rejected some requests based on high volume of calls from a particular server. Various people have experienced this problem at various times over the last three months. Once URIBL starts rejected the requests then every request gets scored as bad. So, for example, every message with five embedded links gets a weight of 20, regardless of the legitimacy of those links. This results in a sudden inflation of spam scores. 4. I don't understand how our mail server would be subject to this. Our volume of mail isn't just small, one might almost call it tiny. The number of calls we make to URIBL are correspondingly very small. 5. The claim made by Those Who Know on the SM forum is that the URIBL
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Hi Andrew and thanks! The problem isn't Declude but it is spam related so I'd be interested to see if anyone else has ideas. I spent some time on the SmarterMail forums and this is what it looks like: 1. SM uses a series of built-in tests as well as external tests such as Declude. Among these are a pair of URIBL tests that are based on links embedded in the messages. 2. SM scores a hit for each bad link reported by URIBL and applies the weight score to each hit. With the default weight of 4, a message with five links rejected by URIBL would give a total score of 4 x 5 = 20. 3. Starting some time late 2012, URIBL started rejected some requests based on high volume of calls from a particular server. Various people have experienced this problem at various times over the last three months. Once URIBL starts rejected the requests then every request gets scored as bad. So, for example, every message with five embedded links gets a weight of 20, regardless of the legitimacy of those links. This results in a sudden inflation of spam scores. 4. I don't understand how our mail server would be subject to this. Our volume of mail isn't just small, one might almost call it tiny. The number of calls we make to URIBL are correspondingly very small. 5. The claim made by Those Who Know on the SM forum is that the URIBL rejection is really directed at those who use high volume public DNS servers. I'm not really sure how URIBL even knows which DNS server I use, but that's the claim. Since last year, I have had my SM server configured to use the Comcast national DNS servers (Comcast being my upstream provider). Since that's supposed to be the problem, I switched to our in-house public DNS server, but that didn't help either. Then I tried setting up a private DNS server on the mail server itself and still couldn't get it to work. 6. Then I was told that I need to turn off recursion on the DNS server to be considered acceptable to URIBL. Again, I don't know why. The problem is that I use the MS DNS server (Win 2008) and when you turn off recursion, it forced off forwarding as well. There are many good reasons for not wanting to turn off forwarding (in fact, MS doesn't recommend it). So now I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. 7. I tried writing to the URIBL abuse administrator but got no response and couldn't find any other contact information. Anyone able to correct or illuminate me? Thanks, Ben - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:27 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Ben, check the archive website here http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/ for the mail you’ve missed. Andrew. From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 10:10 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Thanks for the heads-up, but I didn’t and still don’t see either my original email or the responses. I just took a look at it via the web interface because sometime Microsoft Live Mail (like Outlook Express before it) will not show some messages where it doesn’t like the header, but I just don’t see either my message or the responses. I’m assuming what happened was exactly what I was asking about – those messages were given him spam scores and deleted. I don’t suppose you could resend those replies to the list? Thanks, Ben From: Randy Armbrecht Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:12 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Your Friday post did show up and already has 2 or 3 responses to it Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions, Inc. Office: 804.442.5300 x112 Toll Free: 877.800.4562 24 /7 Tech Support! Your Internet Source.Since 1996! NEW GlobalSync Remote-BackUp Solutions! Web Hosting - E-Mail - Spam/Virus Gateway Services Hi-Speed DSL, Ethernet and Wireless Internet - T-1/T-3's PC Support - Networking - Virus/MalWare Removal 25% discount on most services for Non-Profits! Call us today! From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 1:52 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? (I sent this message on Friday but it never showed up, so I thought I’d try again.) Hi, I don't know if anyone is still here but I'd like some insights into some strange anti-spam behavior. We have latest SmarterMail and Declude, as well as Sniffer. Over the last few days I noticed a significant drop in email messages. Upon further investigation, I found that messages were being givn much higher spam scores than in the past, with the result that they get classified as spam or just outright deleted. Checking
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Ben, check the archive website here http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/ for the mail you’ve missed. Andrew. From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 10:10 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Thanks for the heads-up, but I didn’t and still don’t see either my original email or the responses. I just took a look at it via the web interface because sometime Microsoft Live Mail (like Outlook Express before it) will not show some messages where it doesn’t like the header, but I just don’t see either my message or the responses. I’m assuming what happened was exactly what I was asking about – those messages were given him spam scores and deleted. I don’t suppose you could resend those replies to the list? Thanks, Ben From: Randy Armbrecht mailto:ra...@globalweb.us Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:12 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Your Friday post did show up and already has 2 or 3 responses to it Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions, Inc. Office: 804.442.5300 x112 Toll Free: 877.800.4562 24 /7 Tech Support! Your Internet Source.Since 1996! NEW GlobalSync Remote-BackUp Solutions! Web Hosting - E-Mail - Spam/Virus Gateway Services Hi-Speed DSL, Ethernet and Wireless Internet - T-1/T-3's PC Support - Networking - Virus/MalWare Removal 25% discount on most services for Non-Profits! Call us today! From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 1:52 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? (I sent this message on Friday but it never showed up, so I thought I’d try again.) Hi, I don't know if anyone is still here but I'd like some insights into some strange anti-spam behavior. We have latest SmarterMail and Declude, as well as Sniffer. Over the last few days I noticed a significant drop in email messages. Upon further investigation, I found that messages were being givn much higher spam scores than in the past, with the result that they get classified as spam or just outright deleted. Checking the headers, however, I don't see why the scores are coming in so high. Below are a few examples. Does anyone see why the spam scores come out so high? Thanks, Ben *** X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-2998-c X-Declude-Sender: mstad...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 195938010.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [0] at 17:26:20 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.garrettlaw.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:3, Declude: 0 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 15 * -MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-32767-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159487572.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 16:38:51 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.ghrlawyers.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:7, Declude: -3 X-SmarterMail-SpamDetail: 0.0 TVD_SUBJ_ACC_NUM X-SmarterMail-SpamDetail: 0.0 T_OBFU_PDF_ATTACH X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 28 ** X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-32767-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159487567.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 16:35:50 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.ghrlawyers.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 1 [raw: 1], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:10, Declude: -3 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 41 ** Just for comparison, here is an email from the same source from Tuesday (and very typical of past headers): X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-27512-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NJABL Shut Down
Appreciate the heads up, Andy! Darin. From: Andy Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] NJABL Shut Down March 1, 2013: NJABL is in the process of being shut down. The DNSBL zones have been emptied. After the Internet has had some time to remove NJABL from server configs, the NS's will be pointed off into unallocated space (192.0.2.0/24 TEST-NET-1) to hopefully make the shutdown obvious to those who were slower to notice. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Your Friday post did show up and already has 2 or 3 responses to it Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions, Inc. Office: 804.442.5300 x112 Toll Free: 877.800.4562 24 /7 Tech Support! Your Internet Source.Since 1996! NEW GlobalSync Remote-BackUp Solutions! Web Hosting - E-Mail - Spam/Virus Gateway Services Hi-Speed DSL, Ethernet and Wireless Internet - T-1/T-3's PC Support - Networking - Virus/MalWare Removal 25% discount on most services for Non-Profits! Call us today! From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 1:52 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? (I sent this message on Friday but it never showed up, so I thought I’d try again.) Hi, I don't know if anyone is still here but I'd like some insights into some strange anti-spam behavior. We have latest SmarterMail and Declude, as well as Sniffer. Over the last few days I noticed a significant drop in email messages. Upon further investigation, I found that messages were being givn much higher spam scores than in the past, with the result that they get classified as spam or just outright deleted. Checking the headers, however, I don't see why the scores are coming in so high. Below are a few examples. Does anyone see why the spam scores come out so high? Thanks, Ben *** X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-2998-c X-Declude-Sender: mstad...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 195938010.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [0] at 17:26:20 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.garrettlaw.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:3, Declude: 0 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 15 * -MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-32767-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159487572.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 16:38:51 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.ghrlawyers.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:7, Declude: -3 X-SmarterMail-SpamDetail: 0.0 TVD_SUBJ_ACC_NUM X-SmarterMail-SpamDetail: 0.0 T_OBFU_PDF_ATTACH X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 28 ** X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-32767-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159487567.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 16:35:50 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.ghrlawyers.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 1 [raw: 1], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:10, Declude: -3 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 41 ** Just for comparison, here is an email from the same source from Tuesday (and very typical of past headers): X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-27512-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159486224.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 17:56:38 on 26 Feb 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.garrettlaw.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 5 [raw: 3], DK_None, DKIM_None, Declude: -3 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 5 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
Thanks for the heads-up, but I didn’t and still don’t see either my original email or the responses. I just took a look at it via the web interface because sometime Microsoft Live Mail (like Outlook Express before it) will not show some messages where it doesn’t like the header, but I just don’t see either my message or the responses. I’m assuming what happened was exactly what I was asking about – those messages were given him spam scores and deleted. I don’t suppose you could resend those replies to the list? Thanks, Ben From: Randy Armbrecht Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:12 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Your Friday post did show up and already has 2 or 3 responses to it Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions, Inc. Office: 804.442.5300 x112 Toll Free: 877.800.4562 24 /7 Tech Support! Your Internet Source.Since 1996! NEW GlobalSync Remote-BackUp Solutions! Web Hosting - E-Mail - Spam/Virus Gateway Services Hi-Speed DSL, Ethernet and Wireless Internet - T-1/T-3's PC Support - Networking - Virus/MalWare Removal 25% discount on most services for Non-Profits! Call us today! From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 1:52 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? (I sent this message on Friday but it never showed up, so I thought I’d try again.) Hi, I don't know if anyone is still here but I'd like some insights into some strange anti-spam behavior. We have latest SmarterMail and Declude, as well as Sniffer. Over the last few days I noticed a significant drop in email messages. Upon further investigation, I found that messages were being givn much higher spam scores than in the past, with the result that they get classified as spam or just outright deleted. Checking the headers, however, I don't see why the scores are coming in so high. Below are a few examples. Does anyone see why the spam scores come out so high? Thanks, Ben *** X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-2998-c X-Declude-Sender: mstad...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 195938010.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [0] at 17:26:20 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.garrettlaw.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:3, Declude: 0 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 15 * -MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-32767-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159487572.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 16:38:51 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.ghrlawyers.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:7, Declude: -3 X-SmarterMail-SpamDetail: 0.0 TVD_SUBJ_ACC_NUM X-SmarterMail-SpamDetail: 0.0 T_OBFU_PDF_ATTACH X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 28 ** X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-32767-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159487567.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 16:35:50 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.ghrlawyers.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 1 [raw: 1], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:10, Declude: -3 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 41 ** Just for comparison, here is an email from the same source from Tuesday (and very typical of past headers): X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-27512-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159486224.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 17:56:38 on 26 Feb 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
This doesn’t look like Declude is the culprit in your scoring, but rather your SmarterMail Spam scoring is the culprit. Have you changed anything recently in the Spam settings of SmarterMail? Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions, Inc. Office: 804.442.5300 x112 Toll Free: 877.800.4562 24 /7 Tech Support! Your Internet Source.Since 1996! NEW GlobalSync Remote-BackUp Solutions! Web Hosting - E-Mail - Spam/Virus Gateway Services Hi-Speed DSL, Ethernet and Wireless Internet - T-1/T-3's PC Support - Networking - Virus/MalWare Removal 25% discount on most services for Non-Profits! Call us today! From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 8:54 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Hi, I don't know if anyone is still here but I'd like some insights into some strange anti-spam behavior. We have latest SmarterMail and Declude, as well as Sniffer. Over the last few days I noticed a significant drop in email messages. Upon further investigation, I found that messages were being givn much higher spam scores than in the past, with the result that they get classified as spam or just outright deleted. Checking the headers, however, I don't see why the scores are coming in so high. Below are a few examples. Does anyone see why the spam scores come out so high? Thanks, Ben *** X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-2998-c X-Declude-Sender: mstad...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 195938010.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [0] at 17:26:20 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.garrettlaw.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:3, Declude: 0 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 15 * -MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-32767-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159487572.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 16:38:51 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.ghrlawyers.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:7, Declude: -3 X-SmarterMail-SpamDetail: 0.0 TVD_SUBJ_ACC_NUM X-SmarterMail-SpamDetail: 0.0 T_OBFU_PDF_ATTACH X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 28 ** X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-32767-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159487567.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 16:35:50 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.ghrlawyers.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 1 [raw: 1], DK_None, DKIM_None, URIBL:10, Declude: -3 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 41 ** Just for comparison, here is an email from the same source from Tuesday (and very typical of past headers): X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-27512-c X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 159486224.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 17:56:38 on 26 Feb 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: 1e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.garrettlaw.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 5 [raw: 3], DK_None, DKIM_None, Declude: -3 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 5 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?
A discussion on the subject that may be of interest in the SmarterMail forum. http://forums.smartertools.com/showthread.php/38483-jump-in-spam-scores Mike Michael Graveen m...@anim8.net Return-Path: declude.junkmail-f83d868d348149c9928eaad64e22d...@declude.com Received: from smtp.declude.com (smtp.declude.com [216.144.195.81]) by ns.pixel8.com with SMTP; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:23:43 -0600 Received: from smail.globalweb.net (smail.globalweb.net [208.74.80.105]) by smtp.declude.com with SMTP; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:22:35 -0500 Received: from HRADT (173-163-199-121-richmond.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.163.199.121]) by smail.globalweb.net with SMTP; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:22:22 -0500 From: Randy Armbrecht ra...@globalweb.us To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com References: 1044585735_52516...@declude.com1056213922_52517...@declude.com1070057329_52517...@declude.com1226673407_52521...@declude.com1245946641_52522...@declude.com 1249494625_52522...@declude.com 1251923344_52522...@declude.com -1916622906_42591...@declude.com In-Reply-To: -1916622906_42591...@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:22:04 -0500 Message-ID: -1864395546_42592...@declude.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_053A_01CE1738.2B571DA0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 X-Vipre-Scanned: 0AC03A97003DC80AC03BE4 Thread-Index: AQGfnOsLrnxuRjEYIyUIZ/qhpeQALAIkewrQA4Zvh3wCcEpK0AG5X5wcAlfJDG0BMAgZkQGdxfpImHe4hjA= Content-Language: en-us X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 208.74.80.105, Ugly c=0 p=0 Source New X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-SNF-Group: OK X-Declude-Sender: ra...@globalweb.us [208.74.80.105] X-Declude-Spoolname: 42592729.eml X-Declude-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.51322762.00AC,ss=1,fgs=0 X-DECLUDE: -- X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.12.01 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 11:23:01 on 02 Mar 2013 by X-Declude-Tests: TOKENS [-5], MAILSPIKE-L2 [6], SPFPASS [-1], CT-UNKNOWN [-1], FILTER-SUBJECT [2], FILTER-SPAM [5], HAM-INDICATOR [-5], X1234X [0], UNSUBSCRIBE [-100], SUBJECT-FWD [-100] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: e X-Declude-Recipcount: 1 X-Recipients: declude.junkmail@declude.com X-HELO: smail.globalweb.net X-Identity: 208.74.80.105 | smail.globalweb.net | globalweb.us X-DECLUDE: -- List-Id: listid.Declude.JunkMail.42592764.declude.com X-Mailing-List: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Reply-to: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Precedence: list Sender: Randy Armbrecht ra...@globalweb.us X-Rcpt-To: m...@anim8.net X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_Pass, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, DKIM_None, Custom Rules [], URIBL:11 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 0 (Trusted Sender) This doesn't look like Declude is the culprit in your scoring, but rather your SmarterMail Spam scoring is the culprit. Have you changed anything recently in the Spam settings of SmarterMail? Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions, Inc. Office: 804.442.5300 x112 Toll Free: 877.800.4562 24 /7 Tech Support! Your Internet Source.Since 1996! NEW GlobalSync Remote-BackUp Solutions! Web Hosting - E-Mail - Spam/Virus Gateway Services Hi-Speed DSL, Ethernet and Wireless Internet - T-1/T-3's PC Support - Networking - Virus/MalWare Removal 25% discount on most services for Non-Profits! Call us today! From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 8:54 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped? Hi, I don't know if anyone is still here but I'd like some insights into some strange anti-spam behavior. We have latest SmarterMail and Declude, as well as Sniffer. Over the last few days I noticed a significant drop in email messages. Upon further investigation, I found that messages were being givn much higher spam scores than in the past, with the result that they get classified as spam or just outright deleted. Checking the headers, however, I don't see why the scores are coming in so high. Below are a few examples. Does anyone see why the spam scores come out so high? Thanks, Ben *** X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0 X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-2998-c X-Declude-Sender: mstad...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73] X-Declude-Spoolname: 195938010.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [0] at 17:26:20 on 01 Mar 2013 X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination X-Declude-Code: e X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.garrettlaw.com | ghrlawyers.com X-SmarterMail-Spam
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt
Steve, were you able to get ahold of anyone at Declude? I need to reach them as well and am running into similar issues as you. The odd thing is, is that I Dave Barker a couple of weeks ago. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Steve Cirivello scirive...@compuserve.comwrote: ** Thank you Ben for your suggestions. The CODE/key as shown in our account on declude.com is identical to the value that's been in our declude.cfg file for some time. Our account page shows valid through Jan 2014, but, there's a red circle (not the usual greeen circle) in the upper left corner of the product/subscription status display box. John (a new voice) fixed the subscription date last Wednesday morning. After the call, I bounced decludeproc, and, IS EXPIRED KEY is still in diags.txt. Since that call with John last Wednesday morning, email messages to the usual addresses (including supp...@declude.com) are unanswered. Phone calls to Declude are not answered (except the auto-attendant) - 1 for sales now rolls to a Skype authentication, and 2 for support rolls to voice mail. I've bounced decludeproc several times a day since last Wednesday morning - no change. Daily emails and voice messages remain unanswered. This is very unusual. Maybe it's just this customer? Steve - Original Message - *From:* SM Admin imailad...@bcwebhost.net *To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 10:29 AM *Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Is it possible that they issued you a new key when you renewed? And what emails did you write to? Ben *From:* Steve Cirivello scirive...@compuserve.com *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 7:18 AM *To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com *Subject:* SPAM-LOW: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Hello, We've been a Declude customer for many years. We renewed the annual subscription last Monday, and, on Tuesday, Declude (for IMail) stopped working with IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt We've been unable to reach anyone at Declude by phone or email since last Wednesday morning. Has anyone contacted Declude recently and received a reply? Also, any suggestions for temporarily working around the IS EXPIRED KEY error. Our customer/partner login on declude.com shows our subscription is valid until Jan 2014. (We've considered purchasing a new subscription to get a new CODE/key, but if the purchase and CODE delivery process isn't completely automated we'd still be stuck.) Thanks. Steve --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- --- Dean M. Lawrence INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701 w // www.idatatech.com f // www.facebook.com/idatatech t // www.twitter.com/idatatech Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt
I did hear from Declude yesterday afternoon and again this morning. John reports our IS EXPIRED KEY problem is finally repaired (on the 9th day after the initial voice/email inquiries.) He also wrote: David and Linda have both left our company and I will be your primary contact. We are experiencing overload on our virtual call machine for receiving calls and are in the process of correcting all calls forwarding. You might email jprovost at the declude.com domain. 603 479 7640 was also contained in his message. It's not clear if support@ is being monitored, or, David's and Linda's addresses. David/Linda - thank you for many years of excellent customer service. Steve - Original Message - From: Dean Lawrence To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Steve, were you able to get ahold of anyone at Declude? I need to reach them as well and am running into similar issues as you. The odd thing is, is that I Dave Barker a couple of weeks ago. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Steve Cirivello scirive...@compuserve.com wrote: Thank you Ben for your suggestions. The CODE/key as shown in our account on declude.com is identical to the value that's been in our declude.cfg file for some time. Our account page shows valid through Jan 2014, but, there's a red circle (not the usual greeen circle) in the upper left corner of the product/subscription status display box. John (a new voice) fixed the subscription date last Wednesday morning. After the call, I bounced decludeproc, and, IS EXPIRED KEY is still in diags.txt. Since that call with John last Wednesday morning, email messages to the usual addresses (including supp...@declude.com) are unanswered. Phone calls to Declude are not answered (except the auto-attendant) - 1 for sales now rolls to a Skype authentication, and 2 for support rolls to voice mail. I've bounced decludeproc several times a day since last Wednesday morning - no change. Daily emails and voice messages remain unanswered. This is very unusual. Maybe it's just this customer? Steve - Original Message - From: SM Admin To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Is it possible that they issued you a new key when you renewed? And what emails did you write to? Ben From: Steve Cirivello Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:18 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: SPAM-LOW: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Hello, We've been a Declude customer for many years. We renewed the annual subscription last Monday, and, on Tuesday, Declude (for IMail) stopped working with IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt We've been unable to reach anyone at Declude by phone or email since last Wednesday morning. Has anyone contacted Declude recently and received a reply? Also, any suggestions for temporarily working around the IS EXPIRED KEY error. Our customer/partner login on declude.com shows our subscription is valid until Jan 2014. (We've considered purchasing a new subscription to get a new CODE/key, but if the purchase and CODE delivery process isn't completely automated we'd still be stuck.) Thanks. Steve --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- --- Dean M. Lawrence INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701 w // www.idatatech.com f // www.facebook.com/idatatech t // www.twitter.com/idatatech Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt
Wow, that comes as a bit of a shock! Like I said, I just worked with David a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for the information Steve. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Steve Cirivello scirive...@compuserve.comwrote: ** I did hear from Declude yesterday afternoon and again this morning. John reports our IS EXPIRED KEY problem is finally repaired (on the 9th day after the initial voice/email inquiries.) He also wrote: David and Linda have both left our company and I will be your primary contact. We are experiencing overload on our virtual call machine for receiving calls and are in the process of correcting all calls forwarding. You might email jprovost at the declude.com domain. 603 479 7640 was also contained in his message. It's not clear if support@ is being monitored, or, David's and Linda's addresses. David/Linda - thank you for many years of excellent customer service. Steve - Original Message - *From:* Dean Lawrence dean...@gmail.com *To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:52 AM *Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Steve, were you able to get ahold of anyone at Declude? I need to reach them as well and am running into similar issues as you. The odd thing is, is that I Dave Barker a couple of weeks ago. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Steve Cirivello scirive...@compuserve.com wrote: ** Thank you Ben for your suggestions. The CODE/key as shown in our account on declude.com is identical to the value that's been in our declude.cfg file for some time. Our account page shows valid through Jan 2014, but, there's a red circle (not the usual greeen circle) in the upper left corner of the product/subscription status display box. John (a new voice) fixed the subscription date last Wednesday morning. After the call, I bounced decludeproc, and, IS EXPIRED KEY is still in diags.txt. Since that call with John last Wednesday morning, email messages to the usual addresses (including supp...@declude.com) are unanswered. Phone calls to Declude are not answered (except the auto-attendant) - 1 for sales now rolls to a Skype authentication, and 2 for support rolls to voice mail. I've bounced decludeproc several times a day since last Wednesday morning - no change. Daily emails and voice messages remain unanswered. This is very unusual. Maybe it's just this customer? Steve - Original Message - *From:* SM Admin imailad...@bcwebhost.net *To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 10:29 AM *Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Is it possible that they issued you a new key when you renewed? And what emails did you write to? Ben *From:* Steve Cirivello scirive...@compuserve.com *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 7:18 AM *To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com *Subject:* SPAM-LOW: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Hello, We've been a Declude customer for many years. We renewed the annual subscription last Monday, and, on Tuesday, Declude (for IMail) stopped working with IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt We've been unable to reach anyone at Declude by phone or email since last Wednesday morning. Has anyone contacted Declude recently and received a reply? Also, any suggestions for temporarily working around the IS EXPIRED KEY error. Our customer/partner login on declude.com shows our subscription is valid until Jan 2014. (We've considered purchasing a new subscription to get a new CODE/key, but if the purchase and CODE delivery process isn't completely automated we'd still be stuck.) Thanks. Steve --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- --- Dean M. Lawrence INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701 w // www.idatatech.com f // www.facebook.com/idatatech t // www.twitter.com/idatatech Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt
Shock for me too. I hope John will keep it up and that the whole thing won't fold away. - Original Message - From: Dean Lawrence To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Wow, that comes as a bit of a shock! Like I said, I just worked with David a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for the information Steve. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Steve Cirivello scirive...@compuserve.com wrote: I did hear from Declude yesterday afternoon and again this morning. John reports our IS EXPIRED KEY problem is finally repaired (on the 9th day after the initial voice/email inquiries.) He also wrote: David and Linda have both left our company and I will be your primary contact. We are experiencing overload on our virtual call machine for receiving calls and are in the process of correcting all calls forwarding. You might email jprovost at the declude.com domain. 603 479 7640 was also contained in his message. It's not clear if support@ is being monitored, or, David's and Linda's addresses. David/Linda - thank you for many years of excellent customer service. Steve - Original Message - From: Dean Lawrence To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Steve, were you able to get ahold of anyone at Declude? I need to reach them as well and am running into similar issues as you. The odd thing is, is that I Dave Barker a couple of weeks ago. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Steve Cirivello scirive...@compuserve.com wrote: Thank you Ben for your suggestions. The CODE/key as shown in our account on declude.com is identical to the value that's been in our declude.cfg file for some time. Our account page shows valid through Jan 2014, but, there's a red circle (not the usual greeen circle) in the upper left corner of the product/subscription status display box. John (a new voice) fixed the subscription date last Wednesday morning. After the call, I bounced decludeproc, and, IS EXPIRED KEY is still in diags.txt. Since that call with John last Wednesday morning, email messages to the usual addresses (including supp...@declude.com) are unanswered. Phone calls to Declude are not answered (except the auto-attendant) - 1 for sales now rolls to a Skype authentication, and 2 for support rolls to voice mail. I've bounced decludeproc several times a day since last Wednesday morning - no change. Daily emails and voice messages remain unanswered. This is very unusual. Maybe it's just this customer? Steve - Original Message - From: SM Admin To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Is it possible that they issued you a new key when you renewed? And what emails did you write to? Ben From: Steve Cirivello Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:18 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: SPAM-LOW: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Hello, We've been a Declude customer for many years. We renewed the annual subscription last Monday, and, on Tuesday, Declude (for IMail) stopped working with IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt We've been unable to reach anyone at Declude by phone or email since last Wednesday morning. Has anyone contacted Declude recently and received a reply? Also, any suggestions for temporarily working around the IS EXPIRED KEY error. Our customer/partner login on declude.com shows our subscription is valid until Jan 2014. (We've considered purchasing a new subscription to get a new CODE/key, but if the purchase and CODE delivery process isn't completely automated we'd still be stuck.) Thanks. Steve --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt
Is it possible that they issued you a new key when you renewed? And what emails did you write to? Ben From: Steve Cirivello Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:18 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: SPAM-LOW: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude subscription valid but IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt Hello, We've been a Declude customer for many years. We renewed the annual subscription last Monday, and, on Tuesday, Declude (for IMail) stopped working with IS EXPIRED KEY in diags.txt We've been unable to reach anyone at Declude by phone or email since last Wednesday morning. Has anyone contacted Declude recently and received a reply? Also, any suggestions for temporarily working around the IS EXPIRED KEY error. Our customer/partner login on declude.com shows our subscription is valid until Jan 2014. (We've considered purchasing a new subscription to get a new CODE/key, but if the purchase and CODE delivery process isn't completely automated we'd still be stuck.) Thanks. Steve --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to imail...@declude.com, and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
