Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help Me Add Weight

2009-02-10 Thread Pete McNeil

Robert Grosshandler wrote:


Sounds like a spam headline, doesn't it?

 

Anyway, we're getting obvious spam, but we're not able to weight it 
enough to block it.  Any tests you might suggest.  The following came 
to us BCC'd, I believe.  Nothing about it was appropriate for us.



snip/


X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 60.

X-Declude-Sender: scp...@yahoo.com.ar [173.15.150.165]

X-Declude-Spoolname: Dccef01a2279a.smd

X-Declude-RefID: str=0001.0A010203.498BCCF8.0197,ss=1,fgs=0

X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [11] at 23:39:07 on 05 Feb 2009

X-Declude-Fail: UCEPROTECT-1 [4], SNIFFER [12], WEIGHT9 [9], WEIGHTMID 
[10], ZEROHOUR [0]


I'm biased, but you might increase the weight you add for SNF -- I note 
it did fail the message.


Most systems seem to weight SNF so that SNF + any other test will hold a 
message.


Many hold on SNF alone.

Given that general practice, adding weight to SNF might solve this 
problem for you.


_M



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help Me Add Weight

2009-02-10 Thread Ncl Admin
I would add country weight as well. There used to be examples that work.  I
actually weight yahoo.com.XX as well.


At 01:20 PM 2/10/2009 -0500, Pete McNeil wrote: 

Robert Grosshandler wrote: 
   
 
Sounds like a spam headline, doesnt it?
 
 
 
Anyway, were getting obvious spam, but were not able to weight it enough
to block it.  Any tests you might suggest.  The following came to us BCCd,
I believe.  Nothing about it was appropriate for us.
  
snip/

  

X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 60.
 
X-Declude-Sender: mailto:scp...@yahoo.com.arscp...@yahoo.com.ar
[173.15.150.165]
 
X-Declude-Spoolname: Dccef01a2279a.smd
 
X-Declude-RefID: str=0001.0A010203.498BCCF8.0197,ss=1,fgs=0
 
X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [11] at 23:39:07 on 05 Feb 2009
 
X-Declude-Fail: UCEPROTECT-1 [4], SNIFFER [12], WEIGHT9 [9], WEIGHTMID
[10], ZEROHOUR [0]
  
I'm biased, but you might increase the weight you add for SNF -- I note it
did fail the message.

Most systems seem to weight SNF so that SNF + any other test will hold a
message.

Many hold on SNF alone.

Given that general practice, adding weight to SNF might solve this problem
for you.

_M



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Regex

2008-10-29 Thread Matt

Todd,

There are 600,426,974,379,824,381,952 ways to spell Viagra 
(http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/how-many-ways-can-you-spell-v1gra/3) 
and likewise a similar number of ways to obfuscate other words with 6 
letters.


It is a better to target other aspects of the message and even the 
obfuscation techniques themselves than to attempt to go after the actual 
text.


Matt



Todd Richards wrote:

Hi Everyone -

I'm seeing this come through a lot - CH!l.D P.ORN and P!rate S0ftware.  So
far, the spam filters are catching it ok based on all of the other filters
there.  However, some of them are barely being caught and I'd like to make
sure they don't make it through.  I threw a basic CONTAINS filter in for
an exact match, but I can already see them doing different things to make it
through.

Any suggestions on a regular expression?

Todd




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Regex

2008-10-29 Thread Todd Richards
Good point, Matt.  Thanks!

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:07 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Regex

Todd,

There are 600,426,974,379,824,381,952 ways to spell Viagra 
(http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/how-many-ways-can-you-spell-v1g
ra/3) 
and likewise a similar number of ways to obfuscate other words with 6 
letters.

It is a better to target other aspects of the message and even the 
obfuscation techniques themselves than to attempt to go after the actual 
text.

Matt



Todd Richards wrote:
 Hi Everyone -

 I'm seeing this come through a lot - CH!l.D P.ORN and P!rate S0ftware.
So
 far, the spam filters are catching it ok based on all of the other filters
 there.  However, some of them are barely being caught and I'd like to make
 sure they don't make it through.  I threw a basic CONTAINS filter in for
 an exact match, but I can already see them doing different things to make
it
 through.

 Any suggestions on a regular expression?

 Todd




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude just 
stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - we've 
rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm wondering if 
that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and left a 
voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


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To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did not help

what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
I've downgraded from 4.3.59 to 4.3.46 and declude has started working again; 
I'll try re-upgrading to the beta and see how it goes..


Randy A.
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From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude just 
stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - we've 
rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm wondering 
if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and left a 
voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - 
From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did not help

what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version (4.3.46) I 
saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was working; 
but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs being generated so 
it still appears to be not functioning




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From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude just 
stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - we've 
rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm wondering 
if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and left a 
voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - 
From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did not help

what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
have confirmed declude is still not working; messages pop into proc folder, 
but nothing going into work folder;




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From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude just 
stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - we've 
rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm wondering 
if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and left a 
voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - 
From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did not help

what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Randy,

Is the decludeproc service started?

Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?

Darrell
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Randy Armbrecht wrote:
apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version (4.3.46) 
I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was 
working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs being 
generated so it still appears to be not functioning




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- Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude 
just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - 
we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm 
wondering if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and left 
a voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did not 
help


what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
just another  update - decludeproc process is running (showing in task 
manager) but at 0% CPU; system sees it but nothing is firing it off...very 
strange.  continuing to look into it further




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- Original Message - 
From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version (4.3.46) I 
saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was 
working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs being 
generated so it still appears to be not functioning




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Global Web Solutions, Inc.
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globalweb.net


- Original Message - 
From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude just 
stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - we've 
rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm wondering 
if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and left a 
voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - 
From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did not 
help


what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht

Darrell,

thanks for thew quick response...

process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.

do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
[81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY

but we just renewed this yesterday..


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- Original Message - 
From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Randy,

Is the decludeproc service started?

Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?

Darrell
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Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.



Randy Armbrecht wrote:
apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version (4.3.46) I 
saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was 
working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs being 
generated so it still appears to be not functioning




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Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude 
just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - we've 
rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm 
wondering if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and left a 
voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did not 
help


what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Rick Baranowski
We had a similar issue yesterday too at about 3:30 PM(AZ) mail stared
building up in the proc folder. Dedecludeproc was running but when I tried
to restart it failed to respond to the restart. Killed the process and
restart and the mailed started to flow. We had this same thing happen about
20-30 ago thought it was one time thing but guess not.

Declude 4.3.7
Smartermail 3.3.2369

Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy
 Armbrecht
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:16 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 just another  update - decludeproc process is running (showing in task
 manager) but at 0% CPU; system sees it but nothing is firing it off...very
 strange.  continuing to look into it further
 
 
 
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 Randy A.
 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version (4.3.46)
 I
  saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was
  working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs being
  generated so it still appears to be not functioning
 
 
 
  ---
 
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  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude
 just
  stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - we've
  rebooted, re-installed, etc.
 
  We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm
 wondering
  if that has anything to do with it.
 
  Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and left
 a
  voice mail on your support line
 
  Randy A.
  Global Web Solutions Inc
  804-442-56300
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Dear Support,
 
  Today my declude stoped functioning
  Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
  Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did not
  help
 
  what is going on ?
  Please help, very urgent
 
  Serge Dergham
  Cefib Internet
  Av de la Nation
  B.P. E1172
  Bamako, Mali
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
we're on declude 4.3.59 and imail 8.22;l we had an issue on 8.30.07 where 
mail was building up in proc/work folders and declude moved us to the new 
beta at that time; resolved everything and declude seemed to run alot better 
after that as well.


but now the license is showing it's not valid after we renewed our SA 
yesterday..



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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Baranowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



We had a similar issue yesterday too at about 3:30 PM(AZ) mail stared
building up in the proc folder. Dedecludeproc was running but when I tried
to restart it failed to respond to the restart. Killed the process and
restart and the mailed started to flow. We had this same thing happen 
about

20-30 ago thought it was one time thing but guess not.

Declude 4.3.7
Smartermail 3.3.2369

Rick


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy
Armbrecht
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:16 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

just another  update - decludeproc process is running (showing in task
manager) but at 0% CPU; system sees it but nothing is firing it 
off...very

strange.  continuing to look into it further



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globalweb.net

- Original Message -
From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version (4.3.46)
I
 saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was
 working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs 
 being

 generated so it still appears to be not functioning



 ---

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 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net


 - Original Message -
 From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude
just
 stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - we've
 rebooted, re-installed, etc.

 We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm
wondering
 if that has anything to do with it.

 Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and left
a
 voice mail on your support line

 Randy A.
 Global Web Solutions Inc
 804-442-56300


 - Original Message -
 From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 Dear Support,

 Today my declude stoped functioning
 Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
 Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did not
 help

 what is going on ?
 Please help, very urgent

 Serge Dergham
 Cefib Internet
 Av de la Nation
 B.P. E1172
 Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we can 
do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is will not 
process messages.


Darrell
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Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.



Randy Armbrecht wrote:

Darrell,

thanks for thew quick response...

process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.

do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
[81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY

but we just renewed this yesterday..


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Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Darrell 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Randy,

Is the decludeproc service started?

Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?

Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.



Randy Armbrecht wrote:
apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version 
(4.3.46) I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was 
made it was working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No 
declude logs being generated so it still appears to be not functioning




---

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Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude 
just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - 
we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm 
wondering if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and 
left a voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did 
not help


what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht

yes - unfortunately I have realized that over the past few hours...

I wish Declude had 24 hour support!



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- Original Message - 
From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we can 
do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is will not 
process messages.


Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.



Randy Armbrecht wrote:

Darrell,

thanks for thew quick response...

process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.

do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
[81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY

but we just renewed this yesterday..


---

Randy A.
Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Darrell 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Randy,

Is the decludeproc service started?

Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?

Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.



Randy Armbrecht wrote:
apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version 
(4.3.46) I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was 
made it was working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No 
declude logs being generated so it still appears to be not functioning




---

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Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude 
just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - 
we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm 
wondering if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and 
left a voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did 
not help


what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Matt

Darrell,

The Web server at fluidhosting.com that dlanalyzer.com is hosted on is 
listed in CBL currently and has been before.


   http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=204.14.91.21

Matt



Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:


You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we 
can do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is 
will not process messages.


Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.



Randy Armbrecht wrote:

Darrell,

thanks for thew quick response...

process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.

do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
[81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY

but we just renewed this yesterday..


---

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Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Darrell 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Randy,

Is the decludeproc service started?

Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?

Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.



Randy Armbrecht wrote:
apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version 
(4.3.46) I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was 
made it was working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No 
declude logs being generated so it still appears to be not functioning




---

Randy A.
Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our 
declude just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not 
working - we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm 
wondering if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and 
left a voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did 
not help


what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
does declude monitor this list off hours?  we are receiving complaints by 
the minute from our customers and I cannot wait until Monday morning for 
someone to find my emails to support and voice mails.




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- Original Message - 
From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we can 
do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is will not 
process messages.


Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.



Randy Armbrecht wrote:

Darrell,

thanks for thew quick response...

process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.

do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
[81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY

but we just renewed this yesterday..


---

Randy A.
Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Darrell 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Randy,

Is the decludeproc service started?

Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?

Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.



Randy Armbrecht wrote:
apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version (4.3.46) 
I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was 
working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs 
being generated so it still appears to be not functioning




---

Randy A.
Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude 
just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working - 
we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm 
wondering if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and left 
a voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did not 
help


what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Thanks for the heads up Matt.  It's a shared hosting environment so this 
kind of stuff happens every once in a while.  They are a good hosting 
company (pretty responsive on all of the issues).  I just checked that 
link and it appears that they have either expired from the RBL or were 
removed.


IP Address 204.14.91.21 was not found in the CBL.

Thanks
Darrell

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Matt wrote:

Darrell,

The Web server at fluidhosting.com that dlanalyzer.com is hosted on is 
listed in CBL currently and has been before.


   http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=204.14.91.21

Matt



Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:


You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we 
can do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is 
will not process messages.


Darrell
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Randy Armbrecht wrote:

Darrell,

thanks for thew quick response...

process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.

do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
[81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY

but we just renewed this yesterday..


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Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Darrell 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Randy,

Is the decludeproc service started?

Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?

Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.



Randy Armbrecht wrote:
apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version 
(4.3.46) I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was 
made it was working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No 
declude logs being generated so it still appears to be not functioning




---

Randy A.
Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net


- Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our 
declude just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not 
working - we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.


We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm 
wondering if that has anything to do with it.


Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and 
left a voice mail on your support line


Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc
804-442-56300


- Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



Dear Support,

Today my declude stoped functioning
Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did 
not help


what is going on ?
Please help, very urgent

Serge Dergham
Cefib Internet
Av de la Nation
B.P. E1172
Bamako, Mali




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Rick Baranowski
I would at least temporally disable Declude until you can get a hold of
support. At least you can get mail flowing. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy
 Armbrecht
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:42 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 does declude monitor this list off hours?  we are receiving complaints by
 the minute from our customers and I cannot wait until Monday morning for
 someone to find my emails to support and voice mails.
 
 
 
 ---
 
 Randy A.
 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we can
  do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is will not
  process messages.
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Randy Armbrecht wrote:
  Darrell,
 
  thanks for thew quick response...
 
  process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.
 
  do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
  [81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY
 
  but we just renewed this yesterday..
 
 
  ---
 
  Randy A.
  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Darrell
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Randy,
 
  Is the decludeproc service started?
 
  Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Randy Armbrecht wrote:
  apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version
 (4.3.46)
  I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was
  working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs
  being generated so it still appears to be not functioning
 
 
 
  ---
 
  Randy A.
  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude
  just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working -
  we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.
 
  We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm
  wondering if that has anything to do with it.
 
  Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and
 left
  a voice mail on your support line
 
  Randy A.
  Global Web Solutions Inc
  804-442-56300
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Dear Support,
 
  Today my declude stoped functioning
  Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
  Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did
 not
  help
 
  what is going on ?
  Please help, very urgent
 
  Serge Dergham
  Cefib Internet
  Av de la Nation
  B.P. E1172
  Bamako, Mali
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Andy Schmidt
I believe they have instructions for urgent support, e.g.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (not sure if I remember it right). I would definitely
call and leave a message for support with return number!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick
Baranowski
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:12 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

I would at least temporally disable Declude until you can get a hold of
support. At least you can get mail flowing. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy
 Armbrecht
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:42 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 does declude monitor this list off hours?  we are receiving complaints by
 the minute from our customers and I cannot wait until Monday morning for
 someone to find my emails to support and voice mails.
 
 
 
 ---
 
 Randy A.
 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we can
  do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is will not
  process messages.
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Randy Armbrecht wrote:
  Darrell,
 
  thanks for thew quick response...
 
  process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.
 
  do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
  [81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY
 
  but we just renewed this yesterday..
 
 
  ---
 
  Randy A.
  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Darrell
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Randy,
 
  Is the decludeproc service started?
 
  Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Randy Armbrecht wrote:
  apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version
 (4.3.46)
  I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was
  working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs
  being generated so it still appears to be not functioning
 
 
 
  ---
 
  Randy A.
  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude
  just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working -
  we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.
 
  We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm
  wondering if that has anything to do with it.
 
  Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and
 left
  a voice mail on your support line
 
  Randy A.
  Global Web Solutions Inc
  804-442-56300
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Dear Support,
 
  Today my declude stoped functioning
  Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
  Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did
 not
  help
 
  what is going on ?
  Please help, very urgent
 
  Serge Dergham
  Cefib Internet
  Av de la Nation
  B.P. E1172
  Bamako, Mali
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
no problem with mail flowing; that's going fine; just no spam or virus 
filtering occuring




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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Baranowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



I would at least temporally disable Declude until you can get a hold of
support. At least you can get mail flowing.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy
Armbrecht
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:42 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

does declude monitor this list off hours?  we are receiving complaints by
the minute from our customers and I cannot wait until Monday morning for
someone to find my emails to support and voice mails.



---

Randy A.
Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net

- Original Message -
From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we 
 can

 do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is will not
 process messages.

 Darrell
 --
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
 Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
 SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


 Randy Armbrecht wrote:
 Darrell,

 thanks for thew quick response...

 process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.

 do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
 [81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY

 but we just renewed this yesterday..


 ---

 Randy A.
 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net


 - Original Message - From: Darrell
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 Randy,

 Is the decludeproc service started?

 Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?

 Darrell
 --
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
 Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
 SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


 Randy Armbrecht wrote:
 apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version
(4.3.46)
 I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it 
 was

 working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs
 being generated so it still appears to be not functioning



 ---

 Randy A.
 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net


 - Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our 
 declude

 just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working -
 we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.

 We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm
 wondering if that has anything to do with it.

 Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and
left
 a voice mail on your support line

 Randy A.
 Global Web Solutions Inc
 804-442-56300


 - Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 Dear Support,

 Today my declude stoped functioning
 Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
 Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did
not
 help

 what is going on ?
 Please help, very urgent

 Serge Dergham
 Cefib Internet
 Av de la Nation
 B.P. E1172
 Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
urgent must be only M-F urgent - that was the first thing I did at 9am 
was send an email to that address.




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globalweb.net


- Original Message - 
From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning



I believe they have instructions for urgent support, e.g.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (not sure if I remember it right). I would definitely
call and leave a message for support with return number!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick
Baranowski
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:12 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

I would at least temporally disable Declude until you can get a hold of
support. At least you can get mail flowing.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy
Armbrecht
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:42 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

does declude monitor this list off hours?  we are receiving complaints by
the minute from our customers and I cannot wait until Monday morning for
someone to find my emails to support and voice mails.



---

Randy A.
Technical Support Director
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-442-5300
globalweb.net

- Original Message -
From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we 
 can

 do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is will not
 process messages.

 Darrell
 --
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
 Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
 SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


 Randy Armbrecht wrote:
 Darrell,

 thanks for thew quick response...

 process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.

 do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
 [81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY

 but we just renewed this yesterday..


 ---

 Randy A.
 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net


 - Original Message - From: Darrell
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 Randy,

 Is the decludeproc service started?

 Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?

 Darrell
 --
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
 Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
 SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


 Randy Armbrecht wrote:
 apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version
(4.3.46)
 I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it 
 was

 working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs
 being generated so it still appears to be not functioning



 ---

 Randy A.
 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net


 - Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our 
 declude

 just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working -
 we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.

 We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm
 wondering if that has anything to do with it.

 Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and
left
 a voice mail on your support line

 Randy A.
 Global Web Solutions Inc
 804-442-56300


 - Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 Dear Support,

 Today my declude stoped functioning
 Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
 Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did
not
 help

 what is going on ?
 Please help, very urgent

 Serge Dergham
 Cefib Internet
 Av de la Nation
 B.P. E1172
 Bamako, Mali




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Linda Pagillo
Randy.. this is Linda from Declude. What is your phone number? We are closed
today, but i will call you to help.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me
either by email or call Toll free 1-866-332-5833  Ext.7008

Linda Pagillo
Technical Support Engineer | Declude

Your Email Security is our business

Office: 978.499.2933  x7008
Toll Free: 1-866.332.5833 x7008
Fax: 978.334.0700
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: Randy Armbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


 does declude monitor this list off hours?  we are receiving complaints by
 the minute from our customers and I cannot wait until Monday morning for
 someone to find my emails to support and voice mails.



 ---

 Randy A.
 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net

 - Original Message - 
 From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


  You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we can
  do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is will not
  process messages.
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Randy Armbrecht wrote:
  Darrell,
 
  thanks for thew quick response...
 
  process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.
 
  do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
  [81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY
 
  but we just renewed this yesterday..
 
 
  ---
 
  Randy A.
  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Darrell
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Randy,
 
  Is the decludeproc service started?
 
  Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Randy Armbrecht wrote:
  apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version
(4.3.46)
  I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was
  working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs
  being generated so it still appears to be not functioning
 
 
 
  ---
 
  Randy A.
  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude
  just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working -
  we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.
 
  We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm
  wondering if that has anything to do with it.
 
  Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and
left
  a voice mail on your support line
 
  Randy A.
  Global Web Solutions Inc
  804-442-56300
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Dear Support,
 
  Today my declude stoped functioning
  Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
  Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did
not
  help
 
  what is going on ?
  Please help, very urgent
 
  Serge Dergham
  Cefib Internet
  Av de la Nation
  B.P. E1172
  Bamako, Mali
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
 
Linda,

Thank you for the response - 804-382-5509; I'll try calling you too.

Randy



From: Linda Pagillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:24 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning 

Randy.. this is Linda from Declude. What is your phone number? We are closed
today, but i will call you to help.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me
either by email or call Toll free 1-866-332-5833  Ext.7008

Linda Pagillo
Technical Support Engineer | Declude

Your Email Security is our business

Office: 978.499.2933  x7008
Toll Free: 1-866.332.5833 x7008
Fax: 978.334.0700
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: Randy Armbrecht 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

 does declude monitor this list off hours?  we are receiving complaints by
 the minute from our customers and I cannot wait until Monday morning for
 someone to find my emails to support and voice mails.



 ---

 Randy A.
 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net

 - Original Message - 
 From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


  You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we can
  do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is will not
  process messages.
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Randy Armbrecht wrote:
  Darrell,
 
  thanks for thew quick response...
 
  process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.
 
  do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
  [81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY
 
  but we just renewed this yesterday..
 
 
  ---
 
  Randy A.
  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Darrell
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
  To: 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Randy,
 
  Is the decludeproc service started?
 
  Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Randy Armbrecht wrote:
  apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version
(4.3.46)
  I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was
  working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs
  being generated so it still appears to be not functioning
 
 
 
  ---
 
  Randy A.
  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht
  
  To: 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude
  just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working -
  we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.
 
  We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm
  wondering if that has anything to do with it.
 
  Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and
left
  a voice mail on your support line
 
  Randy A.
  Global Web Solutions Inc
  804-442-56300
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Serge 
  To: 
  Cc: ; 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Dear Support,
 
  Today my declude stoped functioning
  Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
  Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did
not
  help
 
  what is going on ?
  Please help, very urgent
 
  Serge Dergham
  Cefib Internet
  Av de la Nation
  B.P. E1172
  Bamako, Mali
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

2007-09-29 Thread Randy Armbrecht
 

Linda ,

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

I too am at a loss as to why our existing key wasn't working - THANK YOU for 
generating the new key and getting declude back up for us!!!

Randy A.
Global Web Solutions Inc



From: Linda Pagillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:24 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning 

Randy.. this is Linda from Declude. What is your phone number? We are closed
today, but i will call you to help.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me
either by email or call Toll free 1-866-332-5833  Ext.7008

Linda Pagillo
Technical Support Engineer | Declude

Your Email Security is our business

Office: 978.499.2933  x7008
Toll Free: 1-866.332.5833 x7008
Fax: 978.334.0700
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: Randy Armbrecht 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning

 does declude monitor this list off hours?  we are receiving complaints by
 the minute from our customers and I cannot wait until Monday morning for
 someone to find my emails to support and voice mails.



 ---

 Randy A.
 Technical Support Director
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-442-5300
 globalweb.net

 - Original Message - 
 From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning


  You will need to contact Declude at this point.  There is nothing we can
  do to help you out since the key is showing as expired thus is will not
  process messages.
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Randy Armbrecht wrote:
  Darrell,
 
  thanks for thew quick response...
 
  process is running; but only at 3 threads and 0% CPU.
 
  do have a diags.txt file; looking into that it shows at bottom:
  [81CDE419-BDA4-44DB-9090-89C4A7492A98] IS EXPIRED KEY
 
  but we just renewed this yesterday..
 
 
  ---
 
  Randy A.
  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Darrell
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
  To: 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Randy,
 
  Is the decludeproc service started?
 
  Also, in the declude folder to you have a diags text file?
 
  Darrell
  --
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude,
  Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
  SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
  Randy Armbrecht wrote:
  apologixe for false alarm; after re-install of earlier version
(4.3.46)
  I saw messages goinf into proc folder, so assumprtion was made it was
  working; but apparewntly my mistake for assuming.  No declude logs
  being generated so it still appears to be not functioning
 
 
 
  ---
 
  Randy A.
  Technical Support Director
  Global Web Solutions, Inc.
  804-442-5300
  globalweb.net
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Randy Armbrecht
  
  To: 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  We have experienced the same issue - as of 1.30pm friday our declude
  just stopped working; all attempts to restart it are not working -
  we've rebooted, re-installed, etc.
 
  We did just renew our SA with declude at 12.30pm yesterday; I'm
  wondering if that has anything to do with it.
 
  Declude - please contact me! I've emailed urgent at declude and
left
  a voice mail on your support line
 
  Randy A.
  Global Web Solutions Inc
  804-442-56300
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Serge 
  To: 
  Cc: ; 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:02 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, Declude stoped functioning
 
 
  Dear Support,
 
  Today my declude stoped functioning
  Nothing being writen to the logs since 14:00 local time (GMT)
  Imail smtp delivery  still pointing to declude.exe Rebooting did
not
  help
 
  what is going on ?
  Please help, very urgent
 
  Serge Dergham
  Cefib Internet
  Av de la Nation
  B.P. E1172
  Bamako, Mali
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP with tqmcube.com

2007-05-24 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I suggest that you always use a different source IP and sender domain
name when contacting the admin for a blacklist, because they often
filter their own mail with their blacklist, so they won't see your plea.
Stupid, but true.
 
Andrew.
 
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:18 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP with tqmcube.com



Our primary mail server is listed by these guys and I have
issued a removal request on their web site over 13 days ago. There web
site states they normally have a removal request in 4 hours.

 

I have tried to contact them with the email address on their
domain registration and also no reply, the phone number on their domain
registration has is disconnected. I have also sent an email using their
contact page and also no reply. Does anyone know how to contact them.

 

I see the name David Cary Hart on the site and other places on
the net. Does anyone have any idea on how to get him to reply?

 

 

I would really like to know why we are listed and to see a
sample message they received that listed us. It is difficult to correct
a problem when the organization that states there is a problem will not
reply and within their own stated guidelines.

 

 

Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Changing the way industry works. 



 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP with tqmcube.com

2007-05-24 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Thank you for the suggestion. I did that. But ahh still no answer.

 

After reading their site I was actually thinking of using them with Declude. 
But is this is how they respond to removal requests then I cannot see using 
them. There would be too much collateral damage.

 

I am guessing that we were listed due to bounce messages. Our gateways did not 
previously validate the recipients. It now does do that validation thanks to 
ASSP.

 

 

Kevin Bilbee

 

 

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:24 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP with tqmcube.com

 

I suggest that you always use a different source IP and sender domain name when 
contacting the admin for a blacklist, because they often filter their own mail 
with their blacklist, so they won't see your plea.  Stupid, but true.

 

Andrew.

 

 

 


  _  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:18 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP with tqmcube.com

Our primary mail server is listed by these guys and I have issued a removal 
request on their web site over 13 days ago. There web site states they normally 
have a removal request in 4 hours.

 

I have tried to contact them with the email address on their domain 
registration and also no reply, the phone number on their domain registration 
has is disconnected. I have also sent an email using their contact page and 
also no reply. Does anyone know how to contact them.

 

I see the name David Cary Hart on the site and other places on the net. Does 
anyone have any idea on how to get him to reply?

 

 

I would really like to know why we are listed and to see a sample message they 
received that listed us. It is difficult to correct a problem when the 
organization that states there is a problem will not reply and within their own 
stated guidelines.

 

 

Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Changing the way industry works. 

 


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

2007-02-26 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
BlankIs there really a space in the logs or is that just a formatting issue?

philippe  @  malivsion.com

Darrell


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Serge 
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com ; Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:31 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found


  I have a client having problems sending emails to some servers
  No thank you rejected: Domain not found
  DNSSTUFF shows no major problem with malivision.com
  Would appreciate any help to resolve this issue


  20070226 183127 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Trying mail.com (0)
  20070226 183128 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Connect mail.com 
[208.36.123.68:25] (1)
  20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 220 
spf8.us4.outblaze.com ESMTP Postfix
  20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) EHLO mail.cefib.com
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 
250-spf8.us4.outblaze.com
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-PIPELINING
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-SIZE 1024
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-ETRN
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 8BITMIME
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) MAIL FROM:philippe  
@  malivsion.com
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 Ok
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) RCPT To:mathioye  @ 
 mail.com
  20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 550 philippe  @ 
malivsion.com: No thank you rejected: Domain not found
  20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) QUIT



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

2007-02-26 Thread Michael Jaworski
 

Is the example the same as the original?? Malivision is misspelled, missing
an i.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:32 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com; Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

 

I have a client having problems sending emails to some servers

No thank you rejected: Domain not found

DNSSTUFF shows no major problem with malivision.com

Would appreciate any help to resolve this issue

 

 

20070226 183127 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Trying mail.com (0)
20070226 183128 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Connect mail.com
[208.36.123.68:25] (1)
20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 220
spf8.us4.outblaze.com ESMTP Postfix
20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) EHLO mail.cefib.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9)
250-spf8.us4.outblaze.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-PIPELINING
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-SIZE 1024
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-ETRN
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 8BITMIME
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) MAIL FROM:philippe
mailto:philippe@ %20malivsion.com   @  malivsion.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 Ok
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) RCPT To:mathioye
mailto:mathioye@ %20mail.com   @  mail.com
20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 550 philippe
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   @ malivsion.com: No thank you
rejected: Domain not found
20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) QUIT

 

 


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

2007-02-26 Thread Serge
Blank
i added the spaces to prevent harvesting
should have mentioned this
sorry

  - Original Message - 
  From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found


  Is there really a space in the logs or is that just a formatting issue?

  philippe  @  malivsion.com

  Darrell

  
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers.
- Original Message - 
From: Serge 
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com ; Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found


I have a client having problems sending emails to some servers
No thank you rejected: Domain not found
DNSSTUFF shows no major problem with malivision.com
Would appreciate any help to resolve this issue


20070226 183127 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Trying mail.com (0)
20070226 183128 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Connect mail.com 
[208.36.123.68:25] (1)
20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 220 
spf8.us4.outblaze.com ESMTP Postfix
20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) EHLO mail.cefib.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 
250-spf8.us4.outblaze.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-PIPELINING
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-SIZE 1024
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-ETRN
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 8BITMIME
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) MAIL 
FROM:philippe  @  malivsion.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 Ok
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) RCPT To:mathioye  
@  mail.com
20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 550 philippe  @ 
malivsion.com: No thank you rejected: Domain not found
20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) QUIT



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

2007-02-26 Thread Serge
BlankDUH !!!
I read this several time and didn't catch it.
I think it is time for me to retire.  
Thanks


  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Jaworski 
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:00 AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found


   
  Is the example the same as the original?? Malivision is misspelled, missing 
an i.

   

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
  Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:32 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com; Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

   

  I have a client having problems sending emails to some servers

  No thank you rejected: Domain not found

  DNSSTUFF shows no major problem with malivision.com

  Would appreciate any help to resolve this issue

   

   

  20070226 183127 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Trying mail.com (0)
  20070226 183128 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Connect mail.com 
[208.36.123.68:25] (1)
  20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 220 
spf8.us4.outblaze.com ESMTP Postfix
  20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) EHLO mail.cefib.com
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 
250-spf8.us4.outblaze.com
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-PIPELINING
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-SIZE 1024
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-ETRN
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 8BITMIME
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) MAIL FROM:philippe  
@  malivsion.com
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 Ok
  20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) RCPT To:mathioye  @ 
 mail.com
  20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 550 philippe  @ 
malivsion.com: No thank you rejected: Domain not found
  20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) QUIT

   

   


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

2007-02-26 Thread John T \(lists\)
At least for the night.

John T
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:19 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

DUH !!!
I read this several time and didn't catch it.
I think it is time for me to retire.  
Thanks
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Jaworski 
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:00 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

Is the example the same as the original?? Malivision is misspelled, missing
an i.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:32 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com; Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Domain not found

I have a client having problems sending emails to some servers
No thank you rejected: Domain not found
DNSSTUFF shows no major problem with malivision.com
Would appreciate any help to resolve this issue
 
 
20070226 183127 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Trying mail.com (0)
20070226 183128 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) Connect mail.com
[208.36.123.68:25] (1)
20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 220
spf8.us4.outblaze.com ESMTP Postfix
20070226 183130 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) EHLO mail.cefib.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9)
250-spf8.us4.outblaze.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-PIPELINING
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-SIZE 1024
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250-ETRN
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 8BITMIME
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) MAIL
FROM:philippe  @  malivsion.com
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 250 Ok
20070226 183131 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) RCPT To:mathioye 
@  mail.com
20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) 550 philippe  @
malivsion.com: No thank you rejected: Domain not found
20070226 183132 127.0.0.1   SMTP (276b023cf3f9) QUIT
 
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-08 Thread Todd Richards
Which is what we want to do.  I changed my configs and instead of routing to
a mailbox, am holding.  The only real reason I wanted to separate was
because searhing through a mailbox was a PIA.  I downloaded the trial of
fpReview as suggested by John and will try that (so far it looks like a
great utility!).

Thanks!

Todd
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:19 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

Unless, as some prefer, you want to mark the subject in addition to holding.
In that case, the old weight statements fit perfectly instead of the newer
weightrange.

Darin.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

Look at using weightrange instead of weight to define your weighted tests.
It simplifies the weighting and makes it clear on what will happen to the
message.


Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Todd Richards
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:19 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

 Hey Everyone -

 We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy 
 with the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help 
 myself monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between 
 caught
 and
 delete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false 
 positives.
 However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I 
 would like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and 
 allow me to really monitor the close ones.

 Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:

 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  WARN
 WEIGHT19  HOLD
 WEIGHT32  HOLD
 WEIGHT60  DELETE

 Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmail
 file:

 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
 WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT60  DELETE

 My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What I am hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on 
 those email that might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the 
 messages are ending up in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they 
 are above the WEIGHT32 (which should then go to spam2).  However, it 
 does appear that everything over 60 is being deleted.  I've checked 
 all of the config files to make sure I have things set up right, and 
 it does appear that way.  Am I missing something, or is there 
 something diferent that I should be doing?

 Thanks!

 Todd







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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread John T \(Lists\)
What I do is send those grey ones to HOLD and then use fpReview to directly
view them and take appropriate action. Much faster and easier than using a
mailbox.

John T
eServices For You

Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood.
Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882)



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
 Richards
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:19 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration
 
 Hey Everyone -
 
 We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy
with
 the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help myself
 monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between caught and
 delete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false positives.
 However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I
would
 like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and allow me
to
 really monitor the close ones.
 
 Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  WARN
 WEIGHT19  HOLD
 WEIGHT32  HOLD
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
 Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmail
file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
 WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
 My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  What I
 am
 hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on those email that
 might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the messages are ending
up
 in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they are above the WEIGHT32 (which
 should then go to spam2).  However, it does appear that everything over
60
 is being deleted.  I've checked all of the config files to make sure I
have
 things set up right, and it does appear that way.  Am I missing something,
 or is there something diferent that I should be doing?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Todd
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Look at using weightrange instead of weight to define your weighted tests. It 
simplifies the weighting and makes it clear on what will happen to the message.


Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Todd Richards
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:19 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration
 
 Hey Everyone -
 
 We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy
 with
 the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help myself
 monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between caught
 and
 delete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false
 positives.
 However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I
 would
 like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and allow
 me to
 really monitor the close ones.
 
 Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  WARN
 WEIGHT19  HOLD
 WEIGHT32  HOLD
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
 Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmail
 file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
 WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
 My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  What
 I am
 hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on those email
 that
 might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the messages are
 ending up
 in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they are above the WEIGHT32
 (which
 should then go to spam2).  However, it does appear that everything
 over 60
 is being deleted.  I've checked all of the config files to make sure I
 have
 things set up right, and it does appear that way.  Am I missing
 something,
 or is there something diferent that I should be doing?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Todd
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread Gary Steiner
Is it because when it reaches WEIGHT19 and does the ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
the message is delivered?  Then when it tries to perform the action of WEIGHT32 
the message is already gone?

Does Declude allow for multiple instances of the same action where subsequent 
actions are performed, or does it perform the action of the same type that 
occurs first?  Is there a precedence on actions of the same type or not?  The 
manual describes precedence for actions of different type (HOLD over WARN for 
example) but what about actions of the same type (one ROUTETO versus another 
ROUTETO)?

Gary


 Original Message 
 From: Todd Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:47 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration
 
 Hey Everyone -
  
 We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy with
 the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help myself
 monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between caught and
 delete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false positives.
 However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I would
 like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and allow me to
 really monitor the close ones.
 
 Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:
  
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  WARN
 WEIGHT19  HOLD
 WEIGHT32  HOLD
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
  
 Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmail file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
 WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
  
 My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  What I am
 hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on those email that
 might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the messages are ending up
 in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they are above the WEIGHT32 (which
 should then go to spam2).  However, it does appear that everything over 60
 is being deleted.  I've checked all of the config files to make sure I have
 things set up right, and it does appear that way.  Am I missing something,
 or is there something diferent that I should be doing?
  
 Thanks!
  
 Todd
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread Todd Richards
That's what I was wondering too, but then I wondered why it would make it to
the WEIGHT60 and get deleted?   

I think what Kevin suggested with the weightranges would probably work.

Todd


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Steiner
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:34 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

Is it because when it reaches WEIGHT19 and does the ROUTETO
[EMAIL PROTECTED], the message is delivered?  Then when it tries to perform
the action of WEIGHT32 the message is already gone?

Does Declude allow for multiple instances of the same action where
subsequent actions are performed, or does it perform the action of the same
type that occurs first?  Is there a precedence on actions of the same type
or not?  The manual describes precedence for actions of different type (HOLD
over WARN for example) but what about actions of the same type (one ROUTETO
versus another ROUTETO)?

Gary


 Original Message 
 From: Todd Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:47 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration
 
 Hey Everyone -
  
 We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy 
 with the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help 
 myself monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between 
 caught and delete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any
false positives.
 However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I 
 would like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and 
 allow me to really monitor the close ones.
 
 Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:
  
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  WARN
 WEIGHT19  HOLD
 WEIGHT32  HOLD
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
  
 Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmail
file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
 WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
  
 My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 What I am hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on 
 those email that might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the 
 messages are ending up in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they 
 are above the WEIGHT32 (which should then go to spam2).  However, it 
 does appear that everything over 60 is being deleted.  I've checked 
 all of the config files to make sure I have things set up right, and 
 it does appear that way.  Am I missing something, or is there something
diferent that I should be doing?
  
 Thanks!
  
 Todd
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread Todd Richards
Thanks John.  I will look at fpReview.  Yeah, browsing the mailbox is a bit
slow...  :(

Todd 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(Lists)
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:44 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

What I do is send those grey ones to HOLD and then use fpReview to directly
view them and take appropriate action. Much faster and easier than using a
mailbox.

John T
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Todd Richards
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:19 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration
 
 Hey Everyone -
 
 We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy
with
 the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help myself 
 monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between caught 
 and delete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false
positives.
 However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I
would
 like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and allow 
 me
to
 really monitor the close ones.
 
 Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  WARN
 WEIGHT19  HOLD
 WEIGHT32  HOLD
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
 Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmail
file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
 WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
 My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 What I am hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on 
 those email that might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the 
 messages are ending
up
 in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they are above the WEIGHT32 
 (which should then go to spam2).  However, it does appear that 
 everything over
60
 is being deleted.  I've checked all of the config files to make sure I
have
 things set up right, and it does appear that way.  Am I missing 
 something, or is there something diferent that I should be doing?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Todd
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread Todd Richards
Thanks Kevin.  This is what I was wondering about, so I will look into how
to implement.

Todd
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

Look at using weightrange instead of weight to define your weighted tests.
It simplifies the weighting and makes it clear on what will happen to the
message.


Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Todd Richards
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:19 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration
 
 Hey Everyone -
 
 We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy 
 with the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help 
 myself monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between 
 caught
 and
 delete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false 
 positives.
 However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I 
 would like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and 
 allow me to really monitor the close ones.
 
 Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  WARN
 WEIGHT19  HOLD
 WEIGHT32  HOLD
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
 Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmail
 file:
 
 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
 WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
 My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 What I am hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on 
 those email that might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the 
 messages are ending up in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they 
 are above the WEIGHT32 (which should then go to spam2).  However, it 
 does appear that everything over 60 is being deleted.  I've checked 
 all of the config files to make sure I have things set up right, and 
 it does appear that way.  Am I missing something, or is there 
 something diferent that I should be doing?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Todd
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread Nick Hayer





Todd Richards wrote:

  Thanks Kevin.  This is what I was wondering about, so I will look into how
to implement.
  

something like this:
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.LOW  weightrange x x 10 12  
 triggered on a weight of 10 to 12 inclusive
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.MID  weightrange x x 13 15
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.HIGH  weightrange x x 16 18
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.VHIGH  weightrange x x 19 26
etc

and then subject tag on the hits
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.LOW SUBJECT [Possible Spam(low)]- 
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.MID SUBJECT [Possible Spam(mid)]- 
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.HIGH SUBJECT [Possible Spam(high)]- 
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.VHIGH SUBJECT [Possible Spam(vhigh)]- 
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.XVHIGH SUBJECT [Possible Spam(Xvhigh)]- 
etc

-Nick


  
Todd
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

Look at using "weightrange" instead of weight to define your weighted tests.
It simplifies the weighting and makes it clear on what will happen to the
message.


Kevin Bilbee

  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
Todd Richards
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:19 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

Hey Everyone -

We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy 
with the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help 
myself monitor the "close calls".  I was sending everything between 
"caught"
and
"delete" to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false 
positives.
However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I 
would like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and 
allow me to really monitor the close ones.

Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:

WEIGHT10  WARN
WEIGHT15  WARN
WEIGHT19  HOLD
WEIGHT32  HOLD
WEIGHT60  DELETE

Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmail
file:

WEIGHT10  WARN
WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
WEIGHT60  DELETE

My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED].  
What I am hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on 
those email that might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the 
messages are ending up in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they 
are above the WEIGHT32 (which should then go to "spam2").  However, it 
does appear that everything over 60 is being deleted.  I've checked 
all of the config files to make sure I have things set up right, and 
it does appear that way.  Am I missing something, or is there 
something diferent that I should be doing?

Thanks!

Todd







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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread Kevin Bilbee
This is how we have our server setup

SPAM-LOWweightrange x   x   8   13
SPAM-MEDweightrange x   x   14  24
SPAM-HIGH   weight  x   x   25  0

SPAM-LOWSUBJECT [ SPAM %WEIGHT% ]
SPAM-MEDHOLD
SPAM-HIGH   DELETE


So this way we know exactly what will happen for each weight without question? 
So for your configuration change the weights for your config and change HOLD to 
ROUTETO...

Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Todd Richards
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:50 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration
 
 Thanks Kevin.  This is what I was wondering about, so I will look into
 how
 to implement.
 
 Todd
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Kevin
 Bilbee
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:58 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration
 
 Look at using weightrange instead of weight to define your weighted
 tests.
 It simplifies the weighting and makes it clear on what will happen to
 the
 message.
 
 
 Kevin Bilbee
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Todd Richards
  Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:19 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration
 
  Hey Everyone -
 
  We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly
 happy
  with the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help
  myself monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between
  caught
  and
  delete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false
  positives.
  However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I
  would like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow
 and
  allow me to really monitor the close ones.
 
  Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:
 
  WEIGHT10  WARN
  WEIGHT15  WARN
  WEIGHT19  HOLD
  WEIGHT32  HOLD
  WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
  Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my
 $default$.junkmail
  file:
 
  WEIGHT10  WARN
  WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
  WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
  WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
  WEIGHT60  DELETE
 
  My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31
 to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  What I am hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on
  those email that might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the
  messages are ending up in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they
  are above the WEIGHT32 (which should then go to spam2).  However,
 it
  does appear that everything over 60 is being deleted.  I've checked
  all of the config files to make sure I have things set up right, and
  it does appear that way.  Am I missing something, or is there
  something diferent that I should be doing?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Todd
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread Darin Cox
Unless, as some prefer, you want to mark the subject in addition to holding.
In that case, the old weight statements fit perfectly instead of the newer
weightrange.

Darin.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

Look at using weightrange instead of weight to define your weighted tests.
It simplifies the weighting and makes it clear on what will happen to the
message.


Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Todd Richards
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:19 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

 Hey Everyone -

 We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy
 with the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help
 myself monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between
 caught
 and
 delete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false
 positives.
 However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I
 would like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and
 allow me to really monitor the close ones.

 Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:

 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  WARN
 WEIGHT19  HOLD
 WEIGHT32  HOLD
 WEIGHT60  DELETE

 Here is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmail
 file:

 WEIGHT10  WARN
 WEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**
 WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]
 WEIGHT60  DELETE

 My plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What I am hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on
 those email that might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the
 messages are ending up in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they
 are above the WEIGHT32 (which should then go to spam2).  However, it
 does appear that everything over 60 is being deleted.  I've checked
 all of the config files to make sure I have things set up right, and
 it does appear that way.  Am I missing something, or is there
 something diferent that I should be doing?

 Thanks!

 Todd







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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration

2006-11-07 Thread Kevin Bilbee








Yea, but the last line should only be weight



WEIGH.SPAM.XHIGH  weigh
x x 270



With this as your last weight all messages with a weight of
27 or higher will trigger this test.





Kevin Bilbee









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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:13 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Configuration








Todd Richards wrote: 

Thanks Kevin.  This is what I was wondering about, so I will look into howto implement.  

something like this:
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.LOW 
weightrange x x
10 12triggered on a weight of
10 to 12 inclusive
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.MID 
weightrange x x
13 15
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.HIGH 
weightrange x x
16 18
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.VHIGH 
weightrange x x
19 26
etc

and then subject tag on the hits
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.LOW SUBJECT [Possible Spam(low)]- 
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.MID SUBJECT [Possible Spam(mid)]- 
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.HIGH SUBJECT [Possible Spam(high)]- 
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.VHIGH SUBJECT [Possible Spam(vhigh)]- 
WEIGHTRANGE.SPAM.XVHIGH SUBJECT [Possible Spam(Xvhigh)]- 
etc

-Nick




Todd -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of KevinBilbeeSent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:58 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with ConfigurationLook at using weightrange instead of weight to define your weighted tests.It simplifies the weighting and makes it clear on what will happen to themessage.Kevin Bilbee  

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Todd RichardsSent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:19 AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with ConfigurationHey Everyone -We are just getting things tuned to the point where we are truly happy with the results we are seeing.  What I am trying to do now is help myself monitor the close calls.  I was sending everything between caughtanddelete to a spam mailbox so that I could check for any false positives.However, with my new success, that is getting out of hand.  So what I would like to do is set up a new account to help with the overflow and allow me to really monitor the close ones.Here is my weights in my global.cfg file:WEIGHT10  WARNWEIGHT15  WARNWEIGHT19  HOLDWEIGHT32  HOLDWEIGHT60  DELETEHere is the corresponding actions that I have in my $default$.junkmailfile:WEIGHT10  WARNWEIGHT15  SUBJECT **SPAM**WEIGHT19  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]WEIGHT19a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]WEIGHT32  ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]WEIGHT32a  SUBJECT [%WEIGHT%]WEIGHT60  DELETEMy plan with the above is to send everything with a weight of 19-31 to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and everything from 32-59 to [EMAIL PROTECTED].  What I am hoping to accomplish by this is to keep a closer eye on those email that might accidentally be caught.  Right now, 95% of the messages are ending up in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox even if they are above the WEIGHT32 (which should then go to spam2).  However, it does appear that everything over 60 is being deleted.  I've checked all of the config files to make sure I have things set up right, and it does appear that way.  Am I missing something, or is there something diferent that I should be doing?Thanks!Todd---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail.  The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.    

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Delivery failures

2006-09-22 Thread Darin Cox



Everything but the topmost received from header can 
be forged, so I think that's what your looking at here. So look at that 
top line, and compare with the Declude REVDNS variable to see where it's really 
coming from.

Note also that the X-Mailer header could be forged 
too, so it may or may not have actually been sent from that mail 
client.
Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Serge 
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Delivery failures

For those of you who can read headers better than 
me, here is a more interesting one
this time, we have some ips, "Received: from 
217.170.144.6 (HELO mail.cefib.com)" can be valid, but
1- there is no traces in my logs of sending this 
message
2- second part of the header says cwmagic.com 
received from217.170.144.6, but first part says 196.205.224.128, 

either i am missing something, or there is 
contradiction
is "the bat" faking the header ?
please help

Received: from 
host-196-205-224-128.static.link.com.eg ([196.205.224.128]) by 
SERVER.Compuwizards.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 
21 Sep 2006 10:52:36 -0700Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Received: from 
217.170.144.6 (HELO mail.cefib.com) by cwmagic.com 
with esmtp (DA5X015JX7 X0Z5) id 
5K23MB-BX0IOM-7E for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Mar 
2006 18:33:33 -0120Date:Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:33:33 
-0120From:"Mario Hamlin" [EMAIL PROTECTED].comX-Mailer: The Bat! 
(v3.51) HomeX-Priority: 3 (Normal)Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
THURSDAY.rq MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 
boundary="--6E54096EC8425409"X-Spam: Not 
detectedX-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2006 17:52:37.0671 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[B9B6C370:01C6DDA6]



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Serge 
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:13 
  AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: 
  Delivery failures
  
  I am beiing bombarded by delivery 
  failures
  The heading of the returned messages are of the 
  form below
  Can't find any ip in the headings
  somename and [EMAIL PROTECTED]are not 
  valid user or adresses on my server
  in my logs, can't find any "MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  apparently, some spamer is using [EMAIL PROTECTED]in his 
  from address.
  
  What is going on ? and how can invetigate this 
  any further ?
  
  TIA
  
  
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From:somename 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  The president's so-called 2Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:00:07 
  -0400MIME-Version: 1.0X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service 
  (5.5.2657.72)X-MS-Embedded-Report: X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.04) 
  ProfessionalContent-Type: 
  multipart/mixed;boundary="_=_NextPart_002_01C6DDD7.7CB7171E"
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: Delivery failures

2006-09-21 Thread Serge



For those of you who can read headers better than 
me, here is a more interesting one
this time, we have some ips, "Received: from 
217.170.144.6 (HELO mail.cefib.com)" can be valid, but
1- there is no traces in my logs of sending this 
message
2- second part of the header says cwmagic.com 
received from217.170.144.6, but first part says 196.205.224.128, 

either i am missing something, or there is 
contradiction
is "the bat" faking the header ?
please help

Received: from 
host-196-205-224-128.static.link.com.eg ([196.205.224.128]) by 
SERVER.Compuwizards.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 
21 Sep 2006 10:52:36 -0700Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Received: from 
217.170.144.6 (HELO mail.cefib.com) by cwmagic.com 
with esmtp (DA5X015JX7 X0Z5) id 
5K23MB-BX0IOM-7E for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Mar 
2006 18:33:33 -0120Date:Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:33:33 
-0120From:"Mario Hamlin" [EMAIL PROTECTED].comX-Mailer: The Bat! 
(v3.51) HomeX-Priority: 3 (Normal)Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
THURSDAY.rq MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 
boundary="--6E54096EC8425409"X-Spam: Not 
detectedX-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2006 17:52:37.0671 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[B9B6C370:01C6DDA6]



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Serge 
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:13 
  AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help: 
  Delivery failures
  
  I am beiing bombarded by delivery 
  failures
  The heading of the returned messages are of the 
  form below
  Can't find any ip in the headings
  somename and [EMAIL PROTECTED]are not 
  valid user or adresses on my server
  in my logs, can't find any "MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  apparently, some spamer is using [EMAIL PROTECTED]in his 
  from address.
  
  What is going on ? and how can invetigate this 
  any further ?
  
  TIA
  
  
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From:somename 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  The president's so-called 2Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:00:07 
  -0400MIME-Version: 1.0X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service 
  (5.5.2657.72)X-MS-Embedded-Report: X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.04) 
  ProfessionalContent-Type: 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP - outlook meeting invitations arell not coming through properly. Please See below - I upgraded to declude 3.0.6.4

2006-04-05 Thread Howard Smith \(N.O.R.A.D.\)








I have upgraded to declude 3.0.6.4
, created a declude.cfg add the line INVITEFIX ON , put my footer lines back in
the virus.cfg file , the invites work fine , but my footer is not being
added , so I tried setting the INVITEFIX OFF , still no footers showing up .








Howard Smith

N.O.R.A.D. Inc.

P.O. Box 680116

Miami, Florida 33168 

www.norad.com


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Sales - (786) 206-0045

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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:39
PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
HELP - outlook meeting invitations arell not coming through properly. Please
See below - Iam using imail 8.15 - declude 2.0.6





Best to do both if you have the
declude.cfg



David B

www.declude.com









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:28
PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
HELP - outlook meeting invitations arell not coming through properly. Please
See below - Iam using imail 8.15 - declude 2.0.6



There is a switch in declude.cfg for Declude 3.0.5.21 and up
that may help:











# Some customers had issues related to Outlook meeting
requests appearing as text only. 
# The default for this directive is OFF. 
INVITEFIX ON 







- Original Message - 





From: Howard Smith
(N.O.R.A.D.) 





To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com






Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 





Sent: Friday, March 31,
2006 4:08 PM





Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
HELP - outlook meeting invitations arell not coming through properly. Please See
below - Iam using imail 8.15 - declude 2.0.6









I have clients that are using outlook
appointment scheduling  but the receipts get the following email
error - -

Original Message-

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Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:33 AM

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
'Therese Adlhoch Smith'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: GoToMeeting Invitation - PDC CD call

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],

'Therese Adlhoch Smith'
[EMAIL PROTECTED],

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: GoToMeeting Invitation - PDC CD call

Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:33:19 -0500

Organization: Atrus Inc

MIME-Version: 1.0

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charset=UTF-8

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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DESCRIPTION:When: Thursday\, March 30\, 2006
1:00 PM-2:00 PM (GMT-05:00)

Eastern Time (US  Canada).\n\n*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*\n\nPlease
join my

meeting at\n https://www.gotomeeting.com/join/874812145\nConference
Call:

Dial (319) 256-0210\, access code
874-812-145\nMeeting ID:

874-812-145\n\nGoToMeeting(TM) \nOnline Meetings
Made Easy\n SUMMARY:GoToMeeting Invitation - PDC CD call

PRIORITY:5

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP - outlook meeting invitations arell not coming through properly. Please See below - Iam using imail 8.15 - declude 2.0.6

2006-03-31 Thread David Barker



Go into your virus.cfg and comment out the FOOTER 
lines.

David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Smith 
(N.O.R.A.D.)Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:09 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
[Declude.JunkMail] HELP - outlook meeting invitations arell not coming through 
properly. Please See below - Iam using imail 8.15 - declude 
2.0.6


I have clients that 
are using outlook appointment scheduling  but the receipts get the 
following email error - -
Original 
Message-
From: Bruce Kusens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 
30, 2006 9:33 AM
To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Therese Adlhoch Smith'; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GoToMeeting 
Invitation - PDC CD call
Received: from 
imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67] by norad06.norad.com with 
ESMTP
(SMTPD32-8.15) id 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "Bruce Kusens" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
"'Therese Adlhoch 
Smith'" [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GoToMeeting 
Invitation - PDC CD call
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 
12:33:19 -0500
Organization: Atrus 
Inc
MIME-Version: 
1.0
Content-Type: 
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charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 
7bit
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Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
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DTSTAMP:20060330T173319Z
DESCRIPTION:When: 
Thursday\, March 30\, 2006 1:00 PM-2:00 PM 
(GMT-05:00)
Eastern Time (US  
Canada).\n\n*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*\n\nPlease join my
meeting at\n https://www.gotomeeting.com/join/874812145\nConference 
Call:
Dial (319) 256-0210\, 
access code 874-812-145\nMeeting ID:
874-812-145\n\nGoToMeeting(TM) 
\nOnline Meetings Made Easy\n SUMMARY:GoToMeeting Invitation - PDC CD 
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Howard 
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Inc.
P.O. 
Box 
680116
Miami, Florida 33168 

www.norad.com 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office - (305) NETWORK 
(638-9675)
Sales - (786) 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP - outlook meeting invitations arell not coming through properly. Please See below - Iam using imail 8.15 - declude 2.0.6

2006-03-31 Thread Scott Fisher



There is a switch in declude.cfg for Declude 
3.0.5.21 and up that may help:

# Some customers had issues related to Outlook 
meeting requests appearing as text only. # The default for this directive is 
OFF. INVITEFIX ON 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Howard Smith 
  (N.O.R.A.D.) 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:08 
PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP - 
  outlook meeting invitations arell not coming through properly. Please See 
  below - Iam using imail 8.15 - declude 2.0.6
  
  
  I have clients that 
  are using outlook appointment scheduling – but the receipts get the 
  following email error - -
  Original 
  Message-
  From: Bruce Kusens 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, 
  March 30, 2006 9:33 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Therese Adlhoch 
  Smith'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: GoToMeeting 
  Invitation - PDC CD call
  Received: from 
  imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67] by norad06.norad.com with 
  ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.15) id 
  A66ABC8D0026; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:33:30 -0500
  Received: from 
  ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([65.8.197.116])
  by 
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  id
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  ;
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  Received: from BedTV 
  ([65.8.197.116]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with 
  ESMTP
  id 
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  Thu, 30 Mar 2006 
  12:33:30 -0500
  Reply-To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: "Bruce Kusens" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  "'Therese Adlhoch 
  Smith'" [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: GoToMeeting 
  Invitation - PDC CD call
  Date: Thu, 30 Mar 
  2006 12:33:19 -0500
  Organization: Atrus 
  Inc
  MIME-Version: 
  1.0
  Content-Type: 
  text/calendar; method=REQUEST;
  charset="UTF-8"
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 
  7bit
  X-Mailer: Microsoft 
  Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
  X-MimeOLE: Produced 
  By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP - outlook meeting invitations arell not coming through properly. Please See below - Iam using imail 8.15 - declude 2.0.6

2006-03-31 Thread David Barker



Best to do both if you have the 
declude.cfg

David B
www.declude.com


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outlook meeting invitations arell not coming through properly. Please See below 
- Iam using imail 8.15 - declude 2.0.6

There is a switch in declude.cfg for Declude 
3.0.5.21 and up that may help:

# Some customers had issues related to Outlook 
meeting requests appearing as text only. # The default for this directive is 
OFF. INVITEFIX ON 

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  I have clients that 
  are using outlook appointment scheduling  but the receipts get the 
  following email error - -
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  Message-
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter

2006-01-16 Thread Erik
Hi Dave,
Look at this thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg27075.html

Erik


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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:03 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter


 I received a spam email, which was an HTML email with only one line.  The
line is as follows:

img src=cid:85ae9b8e79a2548912c0c40ef7709a27

I have a body filter with the following:

BODY  2 BEGINSWITH img src=cid:

The filter didn't trip on the spam email.  Any idea of why this wouldn't
work?

Thanks,

Dave

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter

2006-01-16 Thread Scott Fisher

There is probably some html coding before that line.

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To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:02 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter



I received a spam email, which was an HTML email with only one line.  The
line is as follows:

img src=cid:85ae9b8e79a2548912c0c40ef7709a27

I have a body filter with the following:

BODY   2 BEGINSWITH img src=cid:

The filter didn't trip on the spam email.  Any idea of why this wouldn't
work?

Thanks,

Dave

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter

2006-01-16 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Scott,

No, there was nothing before that line.  At least nothing that made it
through with the email message.  When I did a view source that was the
only line in the message.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:36 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 There is probably some html coding before that line.
 
 - Original Message -
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 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:02 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 
  I received a spam email, which was an HTML email with only one line.
The
  line is as follows:
 
  img src=cid:85ae9b8e79a2548912c0c40ef7709a27
 
  I have a body filter with the following:
 
  BODY   2 BEGINSWITH img src=cid:
 
  The filter didn't trip on the spam email.  Any idea of why this wouldn't
  work?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Dave
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter

2006-01-16 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Hi Erik,

Thanks for turning me on to that thread.  There was some good information in
that discussion.  

The spam I received had a subject of Fax Received  

Much of the filter discussion, in that topic you directed me to, centered
around also checking the contents of the subject line.  Apparently, the
spammer has changed their subject now to be less predictable.  Which cause
the filter to fail if it depended upon the subject line.

I'm back to my earlier thought that any email message which contains only
the img src=CID would be enough to trigger a hold.  I can't imagine any
legitimate email being coded like that.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:10 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 Hi Dave,
 Look at this thread:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg27075.html
 
 Erik
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:03 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 
  I received a spam email, which was an HTML email with only one line.  The
 line is as follows:
 
 img src=cid:85ae9b8e79a2548912c0c40ef7709a27
 
 I have a body filter with the following:
 
 BODY2 BEGINSWITH img src=cid:
 
 The filter didn't trip on the spam email.  Any idea of why this wouldn't
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 Thanks,
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter

2006-01-16 Thread Erik
Yes, that spam campaign keeps changing subjects.

Unfortunately, if you filter only on the CID tag; you will filter some
legitimate newsletters as they do use the CID tag.  As long as you will be
monitoring your HOLD queue; you should fine so you filter out the false
positives.

Also in that thread was discussion of some variants used to the CID html
coding.  I believe Scott brought that up in his postings.  Another thing
Scott brought up is that this spam campaign also fails the CMDSPACE in
Declude.  We make use of that combo test TESTSFAILED when looking for the
CID tag.

Erik


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:23 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter


Hi Erik,

Thanks for turning me on to that thread.  There was some good information in
that discussion.  

The spam I received had a subject of Fax Received  

Much of the filter discussion, in that topic you directed me to, centered
around also checking the contents of the subject line.  Apparently, the
spammer has changed their subject now to be less predictable.  Which cause
the filter to fail if it depended upon the subject line.

I'm back to my earlier thought that any email message which contains only
the img src=CID would be enough to trigger a hold.  I can't imagine any
legitimate email being coded like that.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:10 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 Hi Dave,
 Look at this thread: 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg27075.html
 
 Erik
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
 Beckstrom
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:03 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 
  I received a spam email, which was an HTML email with only one line.  
 The line is as follows:
 
 img src=cid:85ae9b8e79a2548912c0c40ef7709a27
 
 I have a body filter with the following:
 
 BODY2 BEGINSWITH img src=cid:
 
 The filter didn't trip on the spam email.  Any idea of why this 
 wouldn't work?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dave
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter

2006-01-16 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Erik,

I thought that the beginswith meant that we are testing the very first
line of the message?  A newsletter would never have just one line -- that
being the CID tag.

I could see where contains would be a problem though.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:01 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 Yes, that spam campaign keeps changing subjects.
 
 Unfortunately, if you filter only on the CID tag; you will filter some
 legitimate newsletters as they do use the CID tag.  As long as you will be
 monitoring your HOLD queue; you should fine so you filter out the false
 positives.
 
 Also in that thread was discussion of some variants used to the CID html
 coding.  I believe Scott brought that up in his postings.  Another thing
 Scott brought up is that this spam campaign also fails the CMDSPACE in
 Declude.  We make use of that combo test TESTSFAILED when looking for
the
 CID tag.
 
 Erik
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:23 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 
 Hi Erik,
 
 Thanks for turning me on to that thread.  There was some good information
in
 that discussion.
 
 The spam I received had a subject of Fax Received
 
 Much of the filter discussion, in that topic you directed me to, centered
 around also checking the contents of the subject line.  Apparently, the
 spammer has changed their subject now to be less predictable.  Which cause
 the filter to fail if it depended upon the subject line.
 
 I'm back to my earlier thought that any email message which contains only
 the img src=CID would be enough to trigger a hold.  I can't imagine any
 legitimate email being coded like that.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:10 AM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
  Hi Dave,
  Look at this thread:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg27075.html
 
  Erik
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
  Beckstrom
  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:03 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 
   I received a spam email, which was an HTML email with only one line.
  The line is as follows:
 
  img src=cid:85ae9b8e79a2548912c0c40ef7709a27
 
  I have a body filter with the following:
 
  BODY  2 BEGINSWITH img src=cid:
 
  The filter didn't trip on the spam email.  Any idea of why this
  wouldn't work?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Dave
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter

2006-01-16 Thread Erik
Yes, you are correct with the use of BEGINSWITH.

This campaign is and has been lately using html code before the CID tag to
throw off spam filters.  Your use of BEGINSWITH to detect the CID tag
should be effective then as very few email bodies begin with just a CID tag.

Below is what we are currently using as a filter in Declude for this spammer
(if you use this; adjust your weight according to your HOLD/DELETE weight -
our DELETE weight is 125 and our HOLD weight is 80):

SKIPIFWEIGHT 125

BODYEND NOTCONTAINS Content-Type: image/gif
#MN NOTE - Mark: Removed as this spammer is now using different HELO's
#HEADERSEND NOTCONTAINS Received: from unknown (HELO
HEADERS END NOTCONTAINS 192.168.
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS CMDSPACE

BODY20  CONTAINSimg src=cid:
BODY20  CONTAINSimg src=3Dcid:

#subjects used in this spam; values used to increase the weight to DELETE
based on the above tests
SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH fax received
SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH breaking news
SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH OTC News
SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH press release
SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH news 
SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH top news
SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH headline news

Hope that helps you. ;-)

-Erik





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:12 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter


Erik,

I thought that the beginswith meant that we are testing the very first
line of the message?  A newsletter would never have just one line -- that
being the CID tag.

I could see where contains would be a problem though.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:01 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 Yes, that spam campaign keeps changing subjects.
 
 Unfortunately, if you filter only on the CID tag; you will filter some 
 legitimate newsletters as they do use the CID tag.  As long as you 
 will be monitoring your HOLD queue; you should fine so you filter out 
 the false positives.
 
 Also in that thread was discussion of some variants used to the CID 
 html coding.  I believe Scott brought that up in his postings.  
 Another thing Scott brought up is that this spam campaign also fails 
 the CMDSPACE in Declude.  We make use of that combo test TESTSFAILED 
 when looking for
the
 CID tag.
 
 Erik
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
 Beckstrom
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:23 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 
 Hi Erik,
 
 Thanks for turning me on to that thread.  There was some good 
 information
in
 that discussion.
 
 The spam I received had a subject of Fax Received
 
 Much of the filter discussion, in that topic you directed me to, 
 centered around also checking the contents of the subject line.  
 Apparently, the spammer has changed their subject now to be less 
 predictable.  Which cause the filter to fail if it depended upon the 
 subject line.
 
 I'm back to my earlier thought that any email message which contains 
 only the img src=CID would be enough to trigger a hold.  I can't 
 imagine any legitimate email being coded like that.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:10 AM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
  Hi Dave,
  Look at this thread: 
  http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg27075.ht
  ml
 
  Erik
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
  Beckstrom
  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:03 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 
   I received a spam email, which was an HTML email with only one 
  line. The line is as follows:
 
  img src=cid:85ae9b8e79a2548912c0c40ef7709a27
 
  I have a body filter with the following:
 
  BODY  2 BEGINSWITH img src=cid:
 
  The filter didn't trip on the spam email.  Any idea of why this 
  wouldn't work?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Dave
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter

2006-01-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I don't know if the BEGINSWITH will work in all cases, but if it does,
great.

I think you'd do better to mitigate the false positives by checking for
text that is missing, e.g. I think this would be a lethal test, and
wouldn't require you to track his evolving HELO and SUBJECT lines:


BODY END CONTAINS HTML

TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS CMDSPACE

BODY20  CONTAINSimg src=cid:
BODY20  CONTAINSimg src=3Dcid:


Of course, conversations on this list about this guy may then get
triggered, too.

Andrew ;)



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:33 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 Yes, you are correct with the use of BEGINSWITH.
 
 This campaign is and has been lately using html code before 
 the CID tag to throw off spam filters.  Your use of 
 BEGINSWITH to detect the CID tag should be effective then 
 as very few email bodies begin with just a CID tag.
 
 Below is what we are currently using as a filter in Declude 
 for this spammer (if you use this; adjust your weight 
 according to your HOLD/DELETE weight - our DELETE weight is 
 125 and our HOLD weight is 80):
 
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 125
 
 BODY  END NOTCONTAINS Content-Type: image/gif
 #MN NOTE - Mark: Removed as this spammer is now using different HELO's
 #HEADERS  END NOTCONTAINS Received: from unknown (HELO
 HEADERS   END NOTCONTAINS 192.168.
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS CMDSPACE
 
 BODY  20  CONTAINSimg src=cid:
 BODY  20  CONTAINSimg src=3Dcid:
 
 #subjects used in this spam; values used to increase the 
 weight to DELETE based on the above tests
 
 SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH fax received
 SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH breaking news
 SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH OTC News
 SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH press release
 SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH news
 SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH top news
 SUBJECT 50 STARTSWITH headline news
 
 Hope that helps you. ;-)
 
 -Erik
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
 Beckstrom
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:12 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
 
 
 Erik,
 
 I thought that the beginswith meant that we are testing the 
 very first line of the message?  A newsletter would never 
 have just one line -- that being the CID tag.
 
 I could see where contains would be a problem though.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:01 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
  
  Yes, that spam campaign keeps changing subjects.
  
  Unfortunately, if you filter only on the CID tag; you will 
 filter some 
  legitimate newsletters as they do use the CID tag.  As long as you 
  will be monitoring your HOLD queue; you should fine so you 
 filter out 
  the false positives.
  
  Also in that thread was discussion of some variants used to the CID 
  html coding.  I believe Scott brought that up in his postings.
  Another thing Scott brought up is that this spam campaign 
 also fails 
  the CMDSPACE in Declude.  We make use of that combo test 
 TESTSFAILED
  when looking for
 the
  CID tag.
  
  Erik
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
  Beckstrom
  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:23 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
  
  
  Hi Erik,
  
  Thanks for turning me on to that thread.  There was some good 
  information
 in
  that discussion.
  
  The spam I received had a subject of Fax Received
  
  Much of the filter discussion, in that topic you directed me to, 
  centered around also checking the contents of the subject line.
  Apparently, the spammer has changed their subject now to be less 
  predictable.  Which cause the filter to fail if it depended 
 upon the 
  subject line.
  
  I'm back to my earlier thought that any email message which 
 contains 
  only the img src=CID would be enough to trigger a hold.  I can't 
  imagine any legitimate email being coded like that.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
   Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:10 AM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
  
   Hi Dave,
   Look at this thread: 
   
 http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg27075.ht
   ml
  
   Erik
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
   Beckstrom
   Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:03 PM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with filter
  
  
I received a spam email, which was an HTML

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help-Reinstall Urgent

2005-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mark,

At a minimum I would move to version 1.82.

This includes the fix for the broken SPAMHEADER test which may be part of
the problem.

Barry

www.declude.com
(978) 499-2933
Declude Inc.
65 Parker Street
Suite 5
 Newburyport, MA 01950


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orillia ProNet
Administration
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:18 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help-Reinstall Urgent

hello all.  had a meltdown yesterday.

Need help.  have imail back and working, 815hf2.  I restored data from
backup, all is well.  when i reinstalled and restored declude, it seemed to
be ok.  But whenever i run declude.exe in the imail directory from the
Command prompt it just says first time running installing.  the diag show
it sees all cfg files ok.
ver 1.81.  email flowing but tones of junk coming in.  help

Cheers
 Mark

p.s. been up since 7:30am yesterday straight, sorry for the choppy email,
thank god for spell check




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help-Reinstall Urgent

2005-11-07 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Another user had the same problem you are mentions a couple of weeks back - 
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg26103.html 

The user kept running declude.exe until it worked. 


Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers. 



Orillia ProNet Administration writes: 

hello all.  had a meltdown yesterday. 


Need help.  have imail back and working, 815hf2.  I restored data from backup,
all is well.  when i reinstalled and restored declude, it seemed to be ok.  But
whenever i run declude.exe in the imail directory from the Command prompt it 
just
says first time running installing.  the diag show it sees all cfg files ok.
ver 1.81.  email flowing but tones of junk coming in.  help 


Cheers
 Mark 


p.s. been up since 7:30am yesterday straight, sorry for the choppy email, thank
god for spell check 


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help-Reinstall Urgent

2005-11-07 Thread Travis Sullivan
Did you check that declude.exe is the mail transport for imail?  Just 
replace smtp32.exe with declude.exe.  You will need to stop/start imail.  I 
had that problem too with declude's error message.  I just ran it a few 
times and it just went away on it's own.


Then, check the headers of a test email to see if you see declude inserts.

Travis

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From: Orillia ProNet Administration [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help-Reinstall Urgent



hello all.  had a meltdown yesterday.

Need help.  have imail back and working, 815hf2.  I restored data from 
backup,
all is well.  when i reinstalled and restored declude, it seemed to be ok. 
But
whenever i run declude.exe in the imail directory from the Command prompt 
it just
says first time running installing.  the diag show it sees all cfg files 
ok.

ver 1.81.  email flowing but tones of junk coming in.  help

Cheers
Mark

p.s. been up since 7:30am yesterday straight, sorry for the choppy email, 
thank

god for spell check

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-19 Thread David Barker
Scott,

I agree, unfortunately I do not have that information at present, I have
requested this information from the engineers and will post it a soon as
this is available. 

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:30 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External
comments.

If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to
the Junkmail manual.
- Original Message -
From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell
 
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers.


Scott Fisher writes:

 I think this would do it in two filters:
 filter 1:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
 COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

 filter 2:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
 COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
 COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

 I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company 
 and have their mail server overseas.
 Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to 
 valid

 servers):
 #
 #  Special Codes
 #
 *1 Multi-Regional
 *2 Europe
 *3 North America
 *4 Central/South America
 *5 Pacific Rim
 *A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa) *B Public Data Network 
 *E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East) *I Private IP *L 
 Loopback *M Multicast *P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific) *R IANA 
 Reserved *U Unknown


 - Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


 Could someone help me in creating a filter?

 I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



 If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

 If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
   If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
  Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If

   If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
  'Email is probably good (return zero)
 Else
  DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If

 End If

 Thanks!
 Erik

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-19 Thread Scott Fisher

Thanks David. It's good to have you monitoring the list.

- Original Message - 
From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



Scott,

I agree, unfortunately I do not have that information at present, I have
requested this information from the engineers and will post it a soon as
this is available.

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:30 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after 
External

comments.

If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to
the Junkmail manual.
- Original Message -
From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the 
past

2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE. 
We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that 
are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch. 
Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting 
our

MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm 
out

filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, 
MRTG


Integration, and Log Parsers.


Scott Fisher writes:


I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company
and have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to
valid



servers):
#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa) *B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East) *I Private IP *L
Loopback *M Multicast *P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific) *R IANA
Reserved *U Unknown


- Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



Could someone help me in creating a filter?

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
 Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

  If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
 'Email is probably good (return zero)
Else
 DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

End If

Thanks!
Erik

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-19 Thread David Barker
Erik,

I have also asked the engineers to look into this for us, ie. A directive to
force tests to run in a specific order.

David B
www.declude.com 

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It would be nice if there was a directive that forced the tests to run as
they are in the order of which the appear in the CONFIG file.  I know this
may/would be a performance decrease but it would give end users control of
external tests.

Erik


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Erik wrote:

If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would 
be nice to know.
  

I agree.

The archives may help but as I recall Scott [former of Declude] was nebulous
in what the order is. The only thing for sure was filters ran last in the
order listed in global.cfg listing - generally  :)

Running in debug mode does confirm this.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-19 Thread Erik
Wow, that would be great!  :-)

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Erik,

I have also asked the engineers to look into this for us, ie. A directive to
force tests to run in a specific order.

David B
www.declude.com 

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It would be nice if there was a directive that forced the tests to run as
they are in the order of which the appear in the CONFIG file.  I know this
may/would be a performance decrease but it would give end users control of
external tests.

Erik


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Erik wrote:

If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would
be nice to know.
  

I agree.

The archives may help but as I recall Scott [former of Declude] was nebulous
in what the order is. The only thing for sure was filters ran last in the
order listed in global.cfg listing - generally  :)

Running in debug mode does confirm this.

-Nick
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-19 Thread Erik
Title: Message



Thanks 
Matt.

The 
variable %COUNTRIES% does not pass to a parm line; nor does %COUNTRY%. 
But, I've noticed in our config file, we do not have a country test; but I 
thought this was internal to Declude? Is this what I need to add to my 
config? At one point we did have this in our config as we still have the 
ALL_LIST.DAT file.

http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=6KBSearchID=1012

I want 
to be able to detect multiple countries and pass that to our external 
program. But as Scott mentioned, externals are ran before 
filters.

Erik


  
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  [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a 
  FilterErik,Flexibility is a nice thing, but this 
  isn't really practical to do for Declude without a major, major 
  rewrite.The better approach would be to actually introduce the ability 
  to use operators and variables in custom filters so that the exact order 
  didn't matter. That would also be a rather involved new feature, but it 
  would seem more practical and would have a greater overall utility. I'm 
  sure if time wasn't an issue and there weren't more pressing things, they 
  would have leaped to provide this a long time ago.As far as your 
  specific need, some of this could be written in _vbscript_ as an external test 
  in Declude. Note that %COUNTRIES% is definitely preferable to 
  %COUNTRYCHAIN% as the data used for %COUNTRIES% is updated more often if I am 
  not mistaken. The two letter country codes in standardized format are 
  also preferable for filtering. You can then combo a single test with the 
  others and probably have no concern about the order of tests that you can't 
  easily overcome.MattErik wrote: 
  It would be nice if there was a directive that forced the tests to run as
they are in the order of which the appear in the CONFIG file.  I know this
may/would be a performance decrease but it would give end users control of
external tests.

Erik


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Erik wrote:

  
If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would 
be nice to know.
 

I agree.

The archives may help but as I recall Scott [former of Declude] was 
nebulous in what the order is. The only thing for sure was filters ran 
last in the order listed in global.cfg listing - generally  :)

Running in debug mode does confirm this.

-Nick
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-19 Thread Matt
Title: Message




Erik,

The all_list.dat file is required for testing COUNTRIES in a filter
file. If you have determined that %COUNTRIES% is not passed to
external tests and you have an all_list.dat, that would indicate that
Declude doesn't populate that value or expose it to external tests.
Not all such variables are available when external tests run, and I am
not aware of a list of what is and isn't, but I know that things like
%REVDNS%, %REMOTEIP%, %HELO%, %MAILFROM% and %WEIGHT% are. In the case
of %WEIGHT% this is something that was enabled after it was asked for,
and I would imagine that the %COUNTRIES% variable could also be
populated before running external tests.

As far as test order goes, I would too like to run external tests
sometimes after custom filters, but I also desire to run them before as
well, so if Declude does allow for changing the order, maybe they could
just simply add an after-filter external program call so you could have
them both. It would seem that almost all of the utility in running
tests in a customized order would be to have some external tests run
after custom filters, and instead of allowing us to rearrange things,
it would make sense to just allow us to run external tests before and
after custom filters and call it a day. The utility that I see in
running tests after everything else would be to create specific
external tests that could handle messages in different ways. One way
for instance would be to run a test last and if the message was good
and looked like personal E-mail, the external test could log the IP and
Mail From somewhere and you could use that information for crediting
weight on future messages from the same person. You could do the same
thing with bad E-mail and build a blacklist. I personally would
definitely make use of that functionality, but I wouldn't want to run
all external tests last since some of them are deeply important for
adding on points and most spam reaches my delete weight before custom
filters are run and that saves on processing power when using
SKIPIFWEIGHT or STOPALLTESTS.

Matt



Erik wrote:

  
  
  
  Thanks Matt.
  
  The variable %COUNTRIES% does not pass to a parm
line; nor does %COUNTRY%. But, I've noticed in our config file, we do
not have a country test; but I thought this was internal to Declude?
Is this what I need to add to my config? At one point we did have this
in our config as we still have the ALL_LIST.DAT file.
  
  http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=6KBSearchID=1012
  
  I want to be able to detect multiple countries
and pass that to our external program. But as Scott mentioned,
externals are ran before filters.
  
  Erik
  
  
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Erik,

Flexibility is a nice thing, but this isn't really practical to do for
Declude without a major, major rewrite.

The better approach would be to actually introduce the ability to use
operators and variables in custom filters so that the exact order
didn't matter. That would also be a rather involved new feature, but
it would seem more practical and would have a greater overall utility.
I'm sure if time wasn't an issue and there weren't more pressing
things, they would have leaped to provide this a long time ago.

As far as your specific need, some of this could be written in _vbscript_
as an external test in Declude. Note that %COUNTRIES% is definitely
preferable to %COUNTRYCHAIN% as the data used for %COUNTRIES% is
updated more often if I am not mistaken. The two letter country codes
in standardized format are also preferable for filtering. You can then
combo a single test with the others and probably have no concern about
the order of tests that you can't easily overcome.

Matt


Erik wrote:

  It would be nice if there was a directive that forced the tests to run as
they are in the order of which the appear in the CONFIG file.  I know this
may/would be a performance decrease but it would give end users control of
external tests.

Erik


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Erik wrote:

  
  
If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would 
be nice to know.
 


  
  I agree.

The archives may help but as I recall Scott [former of Declude] was 
nebulous in what the order is. The only thing for sure was filters ran 
last in the order listed in global.cfg listing - generally  :)

Running in debug mode does confirm this.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-17 Thread Erik
From our testing of our new external program, you are right.  The external
program is being called before our combo filter is being triggered.

And the %COUNTRYCHAIN% variable is blank.  So this variable is probably
being created after Declude is done processing all tests.  Now, using
%COUNTRY% or %COUNTRIES% returns [UNKNOWN VAR].

It would be nice if an external can be called AFTER all other tests;
ordering by how it is in the config file.

There is nothing in the manual about %COUNTRYCHAIN% or COUNTRY or COUNTRIES.
The only mention of this is in the release notes posted; which was added in
version 1.62 in November 2002.

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I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External

comments.

If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to 
the Junkmail manual.
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We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


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Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell
 
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers.


Scott Fisher writes:

 I think this would do it in two filters:
 filter 1:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
 COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

 filter 2:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
 COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
 COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

 I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company 
 and have their mail server overseas.
 Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid

 servers):
 #
 #  Special Codes
 #
 *1 Multi-Regional
 *2 Europe
 *3 North America
 *4 Central/South America
 *5 Pacific Rim
 *A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
 *B Public Data Network
 *E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
 *I Private IP
 *L Loopback
 *M Multicast
 *P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
 *R IANA Reserved
 *U Unknown


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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


 Could someone help me in creating a filter?

 I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



 If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

 If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
   If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
  Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If

   If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
  'Email is probably good (return zero)
 Else
  DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If

 End If

 Thanks!
 Erik

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-17 Thread Scott Fisher
I believe the order is: IP4R  RHSBL, Declude Internal, spamdomains, 
Extermal, Fromfile, IPFile, Filter
Within the filters type the filters are run in the order listed in the 
global.cfg


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From our testing of our new external program, you are right.  The external

program is being called before our combo filter is being triggered.

And the %COUNTRYCHAIN% variable is blank.  So this variable is probably
being created after Declude is done processing all tests.  Now, using
%COUNTRY% or %COUNTRIES% returns [UNKNOWN VAR].

It would be nice if an external can be called AFTER all other tests;
ordering by how it is in the config file.

There is nothing in the manual about %COUNTRYCHAIN% or COUNTRY or COUNTRIES.
The only mention of this is in the release notes posted; which was added in
version 1.62 in November 2002.

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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External

comments.

If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to
the Junkmail manual.
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From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


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Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers.


Scott Fisher writes:


I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company
and have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid



servers):
#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown


- Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



Could someone help me in creating a filter?

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
 Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

  If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
 'Email is probably good (return zero)
Else
 DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

End If

Thanks!
Erik

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-17 Thread Erik
If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would be
nice to know.

As far as reading our combo filter of failed tests (%TESTSFAILED%), we can
read/code that from our combo filter file (same file that declude is
reading) and do our own tests failed combo (since Declude isn't doing this
at the point our external program is called; as per our order in the Config
file).  But, we still need to know the country chain; of which is not passed
to our external program... %COUNTRYCHAIN% passes a NULL value.  Without
knowing the country chain, this program will not work.  

Upon looking at our CONFIG file for Declude, we do not use any COUNTRY or
COUNTRIES test (in the past I believe we did).  Do you know if this needs to
be in the default config file or is it internal to Declude?

Thanks Scott for the thread.

Erik


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I believe the order is: IP4R  RHSBL, Declude Internal, spamdomains, 
Extermal, Fromfile, IPFile, Filter
Within the filters type the filters are run in the order listed in the 
global.cfg

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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


From our testing of our new external program, you are right.  The 
external
program is being called before our combo filter is being triggered.

And the %COUNTRYCHAIN% variable is blank.  So this variable is probably
being created after Declude is done processing all tests.  Now, using
%COUNTRY% or %COUNTRIES% returns [UNKNOWN VAR].

It would be nice if an external can be called AFTER all other tests;
ordering by how it is in the config file.

There is nothing in the manual about %COUNTRYCHAIN% or COUNTRY or COUNTRIES.
The only mention of this is in the release notes posted; which was added in
version 1.62 in November 2002.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:30 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External

comments.

If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to
the Junkmail manual.
- Original Message - 
From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


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([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell
 
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers.


Scott Fisher writes:

 I think this would do it in two filters:
 filter 1:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
 COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

 filter 2:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
 COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
 COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

 I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company 
 and have their mail server overseas. Also watch out for these special 
 country codes: (which can belong to valid

 servers):
 #
 #  Special Codes
 #
 *1 Multi-Regional
 *2 Europe
 *3 North America
 *4 Central/South America
 *5 Pacific Rim
 *A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
 *B Public Data Network
 *E RIPE Unlisted (Europe

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-17 Thread Nick Hayer


Erik wrote:


If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would be
nice to know.
 


I agree.

The archives may help but as I recall Scott [former of Declude] was 
nebulous in what the order is. The only thing for sure was filters ran 
last in the order listed in global.cfg listing - generally  :)


Running in debug mode does confirm this.

-Nick
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-17 Thread Erik
It would be nice if there was a directive that forced the tests to run as
they are in the order of which the appear in the CONFIG file.  I know this
may/would be a performance decrease but it would give end users control of
external tests.

Erik


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Erik wrote:

If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would 
be nice to know.
  

I agree.

The archives may help but as I recall Scott [former of Declude] was 
nebulous in what the order is. The only thing for sure was filters ran 
last in the order listed in global.cfg listing - generally  :)

Running in debug mode does confirm this.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-17 Thread Matt




Erik,

Flexibility is a nice thing, but this isn't really practical to do for
Declude without a major, major rewrite.

The better approach would be to actually introduce the ability to use
operators and variables in custom filters so that the exact order
didn't matter. That would also be a rather involved new feature, but
it would seem more practical and would have a greater overall utility.
I'm sure if time wasn't an issue and there weren't more pressing
things, they would have leaped to provide this a long time ago.

As far as your specific need, some of this could be written in _vbscript_
as an external test in Declude. Note that %COUNTRIES% is definitely
preferable to %COUNTRYCHAIN% as the data used for %COUNTRIES% is
updated more often if I am not mistaken. The two letter country codes
in standardized format are also preferable for filtering. You can then
combo a single test with the others and probably have no concern about
the order of tests that you can't easily overcome.

Matt


Erik wrote:

  It would be nice if there was a directive that forced the tests to run as
they are in the order of which the appear in the CONFIG file.  I know this
may/would be a performance decrease but it would give end users control of
external tests.

Erik


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Erik wrote:

  
  
If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would 
be nice to know.
 


  
  I agree.

The archives may help but as I recall Scott [former of Declude] was 
nebulous in what the order is. The only thing for sure was filters ran 
last in the order listed in global.cfg listing - generally  :)

Running in debug mode does confirm this.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-17 Thread Scott Fisher
One more comment. The country processing won't occur unless you have the 
all_list.dat file in the declude folder.


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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would be
nice to know.

As far as reading our combo filter of failed tests (%TESTSFAILED%), we can
read/code that from our combo filter file (same file that declude is
reading) and do our own tests failed combo (since Declude isn't doing this
at the point our external program is called; as per our order in the Config
file).  But, we still need to know the country chain; of which is not passed
to our external program... %COUNTRYCHAIN% passes a NULL value.  Without
knowing the country chain, this program will not work.

Upon looking at our CONFIG file for Declude, we do not use any COUNTRY or
COUNTRIES test (in the past I believe we did).  Do you know if this needs to
be in the default config file or is it internal to Declude?

Thanks Scott for the thread.

Erik


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I believe the order is: IP4R  RHSBL, Declude Internal, spamdomains,
Extermal, Fromfile, IPFile, Filter
Within the filters type the filters are run in the order listed in the
global.cfg

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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



From our testing of our new external program, you are right.  The
external

program is being called before our combo filter is being triggered.

And the %COUNTRYCHAIN% variable is blank.  So this variable is probably
being created after Declude is done processing all tests.  Now, using
%COUNTRY% or %COUNTRIES% returns [UNKNOWN VAR].

It would be nice if an external can be called AFTER all other tests;
ordering by how it is in the config file.

There is nothing in the manual about %COUNTRYCHAIN% or COUNTRY or COUNTRIES.
The only mention of this is in the release notes posted; which was added in
version 1.62 in November 2002.

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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External

comments.

If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to
the Junkmail manual.
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers.


Scott Fisher writes:


I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company
and have their mail server overseas

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-17 Thread Erik
That we do have.  ;-)

But it appears the %COUNTRYCHAIN% doesn't register with Declude until all
other tests have been run (filters and external calls).  Declude does not
pass this to a command line.

We've re-coded our external program to read the combo filter; since declude
doesn't read it before hand (per our ordering of tests in the config file).
But the problem remains of determining of how the email was received based
on bounces from countries.

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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:08 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


One more comment. The country processing won't occur unless you have the 
all_list.dat file in the declude folder.

- Original Message - 
From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would be
nice to know.

As far as reading our combo filter of failed tests (%TESTSFAILED%), we can
read/code that from our combo filter file (same file that declude is
reading) and do our own tests failed combo (since Declude isn't doing this
at the point our external program is called; as per our order in the Config
file).  But, we still need to know the country chain; of which is not passed
to our external program... %COUNTRYCHAIN% passes a NULL value.  Without
knowing the country chain, this program will not work.

Upon looking at our CONFIG file for Declude, we do not use any COUNTRY or
COUNTRIES test (in the past I believe we did).  Do you know if this needs to
be in the default config file or is it internal to Declude?

Thanks Scott for the thread.

Erik


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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


I believe the order is: IP4R  RHSBL, Declude Internal, spamdomains,
Extermal, Fromfile, IPFile, Filter Within the filters type the filters are
run in the order listed in the global.cfg

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From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


From our testing of our new external program, you are right.  The 
external
program is being called before our combo filter is being triggered.

And the %COUNTRYCHAIN% variable is blank.  So this variable is probably
being created after Declude is done processing all tests.  Now, using
%COUNTRY% or %COUNTRIES% returns [UNKNOWN VAR].

It would be nice if an external can be called AFTER all other tests;
ordering by how it is in the config file.

There is nothing in the manual about %COUNTRYCHAIN% or COUNTRY or COUNTRIES.
The only mention of this is in the release notes posted; which was added in
version 1.62 in November 2002.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:30 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External

comments.

If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to
the Junkmail manual.
- Original Message - 
From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Scott Fisher

I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company and 
have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid 
servers):

#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown


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From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



Could someone help me in creating a filter?

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
 Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

  If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
 'Email is probably good (return zero)
Else
 DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

End If

Thanks!
Erik

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Erik
Can the %COUNTRYCHAIN% variable be used instead of %COUNTRIES%?

Right about be careful... But the MN-COMBO is a mix of 3 to 5 TESTSFAILED
combos already.

Erik


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I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company and 
have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid 
servers):
#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown


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From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


 Could someone help me in creating a filter?

 I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



 If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

 If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
   If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
  Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If

   If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
  'Email is probably good (return zero)
 Else
  DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If

 End If

 Thanks!
 Erik

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Scott Fisher

I don't believe so.
I think you have COUNTRY and COUNTRIES.
COUNTRY is the last counry in the country chain.

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Can the %COUNTRYCHAIN% variable be used instead of %COUNTRIES%?

Right about be careful... But the MN-COMBO is a mix of 3 to 5 TESTSFAILED
combos already.

Erik


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I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company and
have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid
servers):
#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown


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From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



Could someone help me in creating a filter?

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
 Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

  If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
 'Email is probably good (return zero)
Else
 DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

End If

Thanks!
Erik

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out 
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's 
countries. 


Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers. 



Scott Fisher writes: 


I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US 


filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US 

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company and 
have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid 
servers):

#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown 



- Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter 



Could someone help me in creating a filter? 

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter? 

 

If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END 


If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
 Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If 


  If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
 'Email is probably good (return zero)
Else
 DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If 

End If 


Thanks!
Erik 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Erik
We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out 
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's 
countries. 

Darrell
 
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers. 


Scott Fisher writes: 

 I think this would do it in two filters:
 filter 1:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
 COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US 
 
 filter 2:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
 COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
 COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US
 
 I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company 
 and
 have their mail server overseas.
 Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid

 servers):
 #
 #  Special Codes
 #
 *1 Multi-Regional
 *2 Europe
 *3 North America
 *4 Central/South America
 *5 Pacific Rim
 *A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
 *B Public Data Network
 *E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
 *I Private IP
 *L Loopback
 *M Multicast
 *P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
 *R IANA Reserved
 *U Unknown 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter
 
 
 Could someone help me in creating a filter?
 
 I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?
 
  
 
 If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END
 
 If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
   If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
  Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If
 
   If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
  'Email is probably good (return zero)
 Else
  DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If
 
 End If
 
 Thanks!
 Erik
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.


It should be - at this point any variable I have messed with has been 
passable to an external test. 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Scott Fisher
I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External 
comments.


If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to 
the Junkmail manual.
- Original Message - 
From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers.


Scott Fisher writes:


I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company
and
have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid



servers):
#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown


- Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



Could someone help me in creating a filter?

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
 Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

  If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
 'Email is probably good (return zero)
Else
 DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

End If

Thanks!
Erik

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

2005-08-30 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Help with Whitelisting



Wouldn't mywhitelist entryalso whitelist all 
senders from .msssupport.microsoft.com and any subdomains of 
mssupport.microsoft.com


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin 
  CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:43 AMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help 
  with Whitelisting
  
  Because the mail is from 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com, but you're not whitelisting 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com, you're whitelisting 
  .mssupport.microsoft.com.
  Darin.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Agid, 
  Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:25 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  
  Hello, 
  I am attempting to whitelist a couple of sending 
  domains, but my whitelisting doesn't seem to work. I'm including 
  the headers and the corresponding entries from my whitelist. 
  Please help me figure out why the messages are not getting 
  whitelisted.
  Thanks. 
  From renowhitelist.txt: .mssupport.microsoft.com --- 
  Tests Failed: NOABUSE, 
  HELOBOGUS, REVDNS, MS-CLEAN, WEIGHT10-29A, WEIGHT10-29B, SPAMYELLOW 
  Weight: 
   10 HeaderCode: f 
  ReverseDNS: [No 
  Reverse DNS] RemoteIP: 202.81.131.9 
  Testname: WEIGHT10-29B 
  MessageID: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Quename: 
  D474f02e9020cffd6.SMD Sniffer: 
  Headers: Received: from 
  ms-wsm-msg1.MSDSWSM.COM [202.81.131.9] by msx.renoairport.com with 
  ESMTP  (SMTPD32-8.15) id 
  A7502E9020C; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:35:12 -0700 content-class: urn:content-classes:message 
  MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
   boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C5ACC1.25041D5A" Subject: RE: Closing mail : SRX050816603115 
  X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange 
  V6.0.6603.0 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 
  23:13:19 +0530 Message-ID: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Closing mail : SRX050816603115 
  Thread-Index: 
  AcWH42yU5spqXKmdT2SFj3JlHN81+QAAAw8AAAKO3KAAAF67wAAAPBCgAABWr8AAAKtXgAABfjGgAfd5tMACB6hhgACEslFwAAAjXBAB8+e5EAAGmGcQACEWNuAAAD7YIAA7yIlQATn9IHAAYCLqgAAwv7pwAIb+C9AAA/XrQA==
  From: "Randeep S. Arora" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Agid, Corby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

2005-08-30 Thread Darin Cox
Title: Help with Whitelisting



Almost. Your entry would match anything that 
ends with ".mssupport.microsoft.com", 
but since "@mssupport.microsoft.com" does not contain 
the leading period, it doesn't match.

In your case, you probably want two 
lines


.mssupport.microsoft.com
@mssupport.microsoft.com

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Agid, Corby 

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

Wouldn't mywhitelist entryalso whitelist all 
senders from .msssupport.microsoft.com and any subdomains of 
mssupport.microsoft.com


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin 
  CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:43 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  
  Because the mail is from 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com, but you're not whitelisting 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com, you're whitelisting 
  .mssupport.microsoft.com.
  Darin.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Agid, 
  Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:25 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  
  Hello, 
  I am attempting to whitelist a couple of sending 
  domains, but my whitelisting doesn't seem to work. I'm including 
  the headers and the corresponding entries from my whitelist. 
  Please help me figure out why the messages are not getting 
  whitelisted.
  Thanks. 
  From renowhitelist.txt: .mssupport.microsoft.com --- 
  Tests Failed: NOABUSE, 
  HELOBOGUS, REVDNS, MS-CLEAN, WEIGHT10-29A, WEIGHT10-29B, SPAMYELLOW 
  Weight: 
   10 HeaderCode: f 
  ReverseDNS: [No 
  Reverse DNS] RemoteIP: 202.81.131.9 
  Testname: WEIGHT10-29B 
  MessageID: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Quename: 
  D474f02e9020cffd6.SMD Sniffer: 
  Headers: Received: from 
  ms-wsm-msg1.MSDSWSM.COM [202.81.131.9] by msx.renoairport.com with 
  ESMTP  (SMTPD32-8.15) id 
  A7502E9020C; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:35:12 -0700 content-class: urn:content-classes:message 
  MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
   boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C5ACC1.25041D5A" Subject: RE: Closing mail : SRX050816603115 
  X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange 
  V6.0.6603.0 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 
  23:13:19 +0530 Message-ID: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Closing mail : SRX050816603115 
  Thread-Index: 
  AcWH42yU5spqXKmdT2SFj3JlHN81+QAAAw8AAAKO3KAAAF67wAAAPBCgAABWr8AAAKtXgAABfjGgAfd5tMACB6hhgACEslFwAAAjXBAB8+e5EAAGmGcQACEWNuAAAD7YIAA7yIlQATn9IHAAYCLqgAAwv7pwAIb+C9AAA/XrQA==
  From: "Randeep S. Arora" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Agid, Corby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

2005-08-30 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Help with Whitelisting



That's what I would have thought, but the manual is a 
bit confusing. Here's from the 
manual:

=
"The 
D:\{MAILSERVER}\Declude\mywhitelist.txt file would then contain either 
one E-mail address ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") or domain ("@example.com") or subdomain 
(".example.com") per line. The whitelist files can have unlimited entries in 
them."
==
So, I would have thought the leading period would imply 
all messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] as 
well as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My support case with Microsoft is closed, so 
unfortunately I don't expect anymore mail from them, but I do want to correctly 
understand how to whitelist them.
BTW, does it seem unusual that MS support's reverse DNS 
seems to be misconfigured?
Thank you for your help 
Darin



From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:10 
AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: 
[Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

  
  Almost. Your entry would match anything 
  that ends with ".mssupport.microsoft.com", but since "@mssupport.microsoft.com" does 
  not contain the leading period, it doesn't match.
  
  In your case, you probably want two 
  lines
  
  
  .mssupport.microsoft.com 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com
  
  Darin.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Agid, 
  Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:02 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  
  Wouldn't mywhitelist entryalso whitelist all 
  senders from .msssupport.microsoft.com and any subdomains of 
  mssupport.microsoft.com
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin 
CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:43 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

Because the mail is from 
@mssupport.microsoft.com, but you're not whitelisting 
@mssupport.microsoft.com, you're whitelisting 
.mssupport.microsoft.com.
Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Agid, 
Corby 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

Hello, 
I am attempting to whitelist a couple of sending 
domains, but my whitelisting doesn't seem to work. I'm including 
the headers and the corresponding entries from my 
whitelist. Please help me figure out why the messages are not 
getting whitelisted.
Thanks. 
From renowhitelist.txt: .mssupport.microsoft.com --- 
Tests Failed: NOABUSE, 
HELOBOGUS, REVDNS, MS-CLEAN, WEIGHT10-29A, WEIGHT10-29B, SPAMYELLOW 
Weight: 
 10 HeaderCode: f 
ReverseDNS: [No 
Reverse DNS] RemoteIP: 202.81.131.9 
Testname: WEIGHT10-29B 
MessageID: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Quename: 
D474f02e9020cffd6.SMD Sniffer: 
Headers: Received: from 
ms-wsm-msg1.MSDSWSM.COM [202.81.131.9] by msx.renoairport.com with 
ESMTP  (SMTPD32-8.15) id 
A7502E9020C; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:35:12 -0700 content-class: urn:content-classes:message 
MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
 boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C5ACC1.25041D5A" Subject: RE: Closing mail : SRX050816603115 
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft 
Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Mon, 
29 Aug 2005 23:13:19 +0530 Message-ID: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Closing mail : 
SRX050816603115 Thread-Index: 
AcWH42yU5spqXKmdT2SFj3JlHN81+QAAAw8AAAKO3KAAAF67wAAAPBCgAABWr8AAAKtXgAABfjGgAfd5tMACB6hhgACEslFwAAAjXBAB8+e5EAAGmGcQACEWNuAAAD7YIAA7yIlQATn9IHAAYCLqgAAwv7pwAIb+C9AAA/XrQA==
From: "Randeep S. Arora" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Agid, Corby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

2005-08-30 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Help with Whitelisting



Yes, it would help if the manual added something 
like:

"The line you create in the whitelist text file will be 
usedin a text matchto the MAILFROM address ofeach message that 
is received".

That's already wordy and doesn't mention that the match is 
a right-hand-side match, but the lack of a description makes it a FAQ on this 
mailing list.

Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agid, 
  CorbySent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:28 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help 
  with Whitelisting
  
  That's what I would have thought, but the manual is a 
  bit confusing. Here's from the manual:
  
  =
  "The 
  D:\{MAILSERVER}\Declude\mywhitelist.txt file would then contain either 
  one E-mail address ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") or domain ("@example.com") or 
  subdomain (".example.com") per line. The whitelist files can have unlimited 
  entries in them."
  ==
  So, I would have thought the leading period would 
  imply all messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  as well as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  My support case with Microsoft is closed, so 
  unfortunately I don't expect anymore mail from them, but I do want to 
  correctly understand how to whitelist them.
  BTW, does it seem unusual that MS support's reverse 
  DNS seems to be misconfigured?
  Thank you for your help 
  Darin
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:10 
  AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  

Almost. Your entry would match anything 
that ends with ".mssupport.microsoft.com", but since "@mssupport.microsoft.com" 
does not contain the leading period, it doesn't match.

In your case, you probably want two 
lines


.mssupport.microsoft.com 
@mssupport.microsoft.com

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Agid, 
Corby 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with 
Whitelisting

Wouldn't mywhitelist entryalso whitelist 
all senders from .msssupport.microsoft.com and any subdomains of 
mssupport.microsoft.com


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin 
  CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:43 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  
  Because the mail is from 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com, but you're not whitelisting 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com, you're whitelisting 
  .mssupport.microsoft.com.
  Darin.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Agid, 
  Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:25 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  
  Hello, 
  I am attempting to whitelist a couple of 
  sending domains, but my whitelisting doesn't seem to work. I'm 
  including the headers and the corresponding entries from my 
  whitelist. Please help me figure out why the messages are not 
  getting whitelisted.
  Thanks. 
  From renowhitelist.txt: .mssupport.microsoft.com --- 
  Tests Failed: NOABUSE, 
  HELOBOGUS, REVDNS, MS-CLEAN, WEIGHT10-29A, WEIGHT10-29B, SPAMYELLOW 
  Weight: 
   10 HeaderCode: f 
  ReverseDNS: 
  [No Reverse DNS] RemoteIP: 202.81.131.9 
  Testname: WEIGHT10-29B 
  MessageID: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Quename: 
  D474f02e9020cffd6.SMD Sniffer: 
  Headers: Received: from 
  ms-wsm-msg1.MSDSWSM.COM [202.81.131.9] by msx.renoairport.com with 
  ESMTP  (SMTPD32-8.15) id 
  A7502E9020C; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:35:12 -0700 content-class: 
  urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
   boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C5ACC1.25041D5A" Subject: RE: Closing mail : 
  SRX050816603115 X-MimeOLE: 
  Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 23:13:19 +0530 
  Message-ID: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Closing mail : 
  SRX050816603115 Thread-Index: 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

2005-08-30 Thread Darin Cox
Title: Help with Whitelisting



All it's saying isto putone entry per 
line, and the available entry formats are the three described.

Not surprising that MS may have reverse DNS 
misconfigured, but whatleads youto believeit is?
Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Agid, Corby 

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

That's what I would have thought, but the manual is a 
bit confusing. Here's from the manual:

=
"The 
D:\{MAILSERVER}\Declude\mywhitelist.txt file would then contain either 
one E-mail address ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") or 
domain ("@example.com") or subdomain (".example.com") per line. The whitelist 
files can have unlimited entries in them."
==
So, I would have thought the leading period would imply 
all messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] as 
well as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My support case with Microsoft is closed, so 
unfortunately I don't expect anymore mail from them, but I do want to correctly 
understand how to whitelist them.
BTW, does it seem unusual that MS support's reverse DNS 
seems to be misconfigured?
Thank you for your help 
Darin



From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:10 
AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: 
[Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

  
  Almost. Your entry would match anything 
  that ends with ".mssupport.microsoft.com", but since "@mssupport.microsoft.com" does 
  not contain the leading period, it doesn't match.
  
  In your case, you probably want two 
  lines
  
  
  .mssupport.microsoft.com 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com
  
  Darin.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Agid, 
  Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:02 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  
  Wouldn't mywhitelist entryalso whitelist all 
  senders from .msssupport.microsoft.com and any subdomains of 
  mssupport.microsoft.com
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin 
CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:43 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

Because the mail is from 
@mssupport.microsoft.com, but you're not whitelisting 
@mssupport.microsoft.com, you're whitelisting 
.mssupport.microsoft.com.
Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Agid, 
Corby 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

Hello, 
I am attempting to whitelist a couple of sending 
domains, but my whitelisting doesn't seem to work. I'm including 
the headers and the corresponding entries from my 
whitelist. Please help me figure out why the messages are not 
getting whitelisted.
Thanks. 
From renowhitelist.txt: .mssupport.microsoft.com --- 
Tests Failed: NOABUSE, 
HELOBOGUS, REVDNS, MS-CLEAN, WEIGHT10-29A, WEIGHT10-29B, SPAMYELLOW 
Weight: 
 10 HeaderCode: f 
ReverseDNS: [No 
Reverse DNS] RemoteIP: 202.81.131.9 
Testname: WEIGHT10-29B 
MessageID: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Quename: 
D474f02e9020cffd6.SMD Sniffer: 
Headers: Received: from 
ms-wsm-msg1.MSDSWSM.COM [202.81.131.9] by msx.renoairport.com with 
ESMTP  (SMTPD32-8.15) id 
A7502E9020C; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:35:12 -0700 content-class: urn:content-classes:message 
MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
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X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft 
Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Mon, 
29 Aug 2005 23:13:19 +0530 Message-ID: 
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X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Closing mail : 
SRX050816603115 Thread-Index: 
AcWH42yU5spqXKmdT2SFj3JlHN81+QAAAw8AAAKO3KAAAF67wAAAPBCgAABWr8AAAKtXgAABfjGgAfd5tMACB6hhgACEslFwAAAjXBAB8+e5EAAGmGcQACEWNuAAAD7YIAA7yIlQATn9IHAAYCLqgAAwv7pwAIb+C9AAA/XrQA==
From: "Randeep S. Arora" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Agid, Corby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

2005-08-30 Thread Matt
Title: Help with Whitelisting




Microsoft outsourced much of their support to China and India (the
source of this message), and finding a reverse DNS entry in these
countries is like finding a peace activist at a Ted Nugent concert.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  
  
  
  The orginal reason for my
posting was that messages I received from mssupport.microsoft.com were
getting caught in my filter because, among other things, the sending
server had no reverse dns. My headers and diagnostic are at the very
bottom of this posting. I have similar problems with other companies,
but would have thought MS would have reverse DNS set properly.
  
  Thanks for your help.
  
  
  

 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting


All it's saying isto putone
entry per line, and the available entry formats are the three described.

Not surprising that MS may have
reverse DNS misconfigured, but whatleads youto believeit is?

Darin.


-
Original Message -
From:
Agid,
Corby 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting



That's what I would have thought, but the
manual is a bit confusing. Here's from the manual:
 
 
=
 
"The D:\{MAILSERVER}\Declude\mywhitelist.txt
file would then contain either one E-mail address ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") or domain
("@example.com") or subdomain (".example.com") per line. The whitelist
files can have unlimited entries in them."
 
==
 
So, I
would have thought the leading period would imply all messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as well as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
My
support case with Microsoft is closed, so unfortunately I don't expect
anymore mail from them, but I do want to correctly understand how to
whitelist them.
 
BTW,
does it seem unusual that MS support's reverse DNS seems to be
misconfigured?
 
Thank
you for your help Darin
 

 

 

 
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:10 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting




  Almost. Your entry would match
anything that ends with ".mssupport.microsoft.com", but since
"@mssupport.microsoft.com" does not contain the leading period, it
doesn't match.
  
  In your case, you probably want
two lines
  
  
  .mssupport.microsoft.com
  @mssupport.microsoft.com
  
  
  
  Darin.
  
  
  -
Original Message -
  From:
  Agid, Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  
      Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:02 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  
  
  
  Wouldn't mywhitelist entryalso
whitelist all senders from .msssupport.microsoft.com and any subdomains
of mssupport.microsoft.com
  
  
  

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:43 AM
    To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting


Because the mail is from
@mssupport.microsoft.com, but you're not whitelisting
@mssupport.microsoft.com, you're whitelisting .mssupport.microsoft.com.

Darin.


-
Original Message -
From:
Agid, Corby 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting




Hello, 
I am attempting to whitelist a
couple of sending domains, but my whitelisting doesn't seem to work.
I'm including the headers and the corresponding entries from my
whitelist. Please help me figure out why the messages are not getting
whitelisted.
Thanks. 
From renowhitelist.txt: 
.mssupport.microsoft.com 
--- 
Tests Failed: NOABUSE,
HELOBOGUS, REVDNS, MS-CLEAN, WEIGHT10-29A, WEIGHT10-29B, SPAMYELLOW

Weight:  10 
HeaderCode: f 
ReverseDNS: [No Reverse
DNS] 
RemoteIP: 202.81.131.9

Testname: WEIGHT10-29B

MessageID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Quename:
D474f02e9020cffd6.SMD 
Sniffer: 
Headers: Received: from
ms-wsm-msg1.MSDSWSM.COM [202.81.131.9] by msx.renoairport.com with ESMTP

 (SMTPD32-8.15) id
A7502E9020C; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:35:12 -0700 
content-class:
urn:content-classes:message 
MIME-Version: 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

2005-08-30 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Help with Whitelisting



ha! 


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:45 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help 
  with Whitelisting
  Microsoft outsourced much of their support to China and India (the 
  source of this message), and finding a reverse DNS entry in these countries is 
  like finding a peace activist at a Ted Nugent 
  concert.MattAgid, Corby wrote: 
  



The orginal reason for my posting was that messages 
I received from mssupport.microsoft.com were getting caught in my filter 
because, among other things, the sending server had no reverse dns. My 
headers and diagnostic are at the very bottom of this posting. I 
have similar problems with other companies, but would have thought MS 
would have reverse DNS set properly.

Thanks for your help.


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 
  1:02 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  All it's saying isto putone entry 
  per line, and the available entry formats are the three 
  described.
  
  Not surprising that MS may have reverse DNS 
  misconfigured, but whatleads youto believeit 
  is?
  Darin.
  
  
  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Agid, 
  Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:28 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with 
  Whitelisting
  
  That's what I would have thought, but the manual 
  is a bit confusing. Here's from the 
  manual:
  
  =
  "The 
  D:\{MAILSERVER}\Declude\mywhitelist.txt file would then contain 
  either one E-mail address ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") or domain 
  ("@example.com") or subdomain (".example.com") per line. The whitelist 
  files can have unlimited entries in them."
  ==
  So, I would have thought the leading 
  period would imply all messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  as well as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  My support case with Microsoft is 
  closed, so unfortunately I don't expect anymore mail from them, but I do 
  want to correctly understand how to whitelist 
  them.
  BTW, does it seem unusual that MS 
  support's reverse DNS seems to be 
  misconfigured?
  Thank you for your help 
  Darin
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 
  9:10 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  
Almost. Your entry would match 
anything that ends with ".mssupport.microsoft.com", but since 
"@mssupport.microsoft.com" does not contain the leading period, it 
doesn't match.

In your case, you probably want two 
lines


.mssupport.microsoft.com 
@mssupport.microsoft.com

Darin.


- 
Original Message - 
From: 
Agid, 
Corby 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with 
Whitelisting

Wouldn't mywhitelist entryalso 
whitelist all senders from .msssupport.microsoft.com and any subdomains 
of mssupport.microsoft.com


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 
  8:43 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  Because the mail is from 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com, but you're not whitelisting 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com, you're whitelisting 
  .mssupport.microsoft.com.
  Darin.
  
  
  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Agid, Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:25 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with 
  Whitelisting
  
  Hello, 
  I am attempting to whitelist a couple of 
  sending domains, but my whitelisting doesn't seem to work. 
  I'm including the headers and the corresponding entries from my 
  whitelist. Please help me figure out why the messages are 
  not getting whitelisted.
  Thanks. 
  From renowhitelist.txt: .mssupport.microsoft.com --- 
  Tests Failed: NOABUSE, 
 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting

2005-08-30 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Help with Whitelisting



Great, thanks Matt.

Now I've got Cat Scratch Fever!

Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:45 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help 
  with Whitelisting
  Microsoft outsourced much of their support to China and India (the 
  source of this message), and finding a reverse DNS entry in these countries is 
  like finding a peace activist at a Ted Nugent 
  concert.MattAgid, Corby wrote: 
  



The orginal reason for my posting was that messages 
I received from mssupport.microsoft.com were getting caught in my filter 
because, among other things, the sending server had no reverse dns. My 
headers and diagnostic are at the very bottom of this posting. I 
have similar problems with other companies, but would have thought MS 
would have reverse DNS set properly.

Thanks for your help.


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 
  1:02 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  All it's saying isto putone entry 
  per line, and the available entry formats are the three 
  described.
  
  Not surprising that MS may have reverse DNS 
  misconfigured, but whatleads youto believeit 
  is?
  Darin.
  
  
  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Agid, 
  Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:28 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with 
  Whitelisting
  
  That's what I would have thought, but the manual 
  is a bit confusing. Here's from the 
  manual:
  
  =
  "The 
  D:\{MAILSERVER}\Declude\mywhitelist.txt file would then contain 
  either one E-mail address ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") or domain 
  ("@example.com") or subdomain (".example.com") per line. The whitelist 
  files can have unlimited entries in them."
  ==
  So, I would have thought the leading 
  period would imply all messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  as well as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  My support case with Microsoft is 
  closed, so unfortunately I don't expect anymore mail from them, but I do 
  want to correctly understand how to whitelist 
  them.
  BTW, does it seem unusual that MS 
  support's reverse DNS seems to be 
  misconfigured?
  Thank you for your help 
  Darin
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 
  9:10 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  
Almost. Your entry would match 
anything that ends with ".mssupport.microsoft.com", but since 
"@mssupport.microsoft.com" does not contain the leading period, it 
doesn't match.

In your case, you probably want two 
lines


.mssupport.microsoft.com 
@mssupport.microsoft.com

Darin.


- 
Original Message - 
From: 
Agid, 
Corby 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with 
Whitelisting

Wouldn't mywhitelist entryalso 
whitelist all senders from .msssupport.microsoft.com and any subdomains 
of mssupport.microsoft.com


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 
  8:43 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Whitelisting
  Because the mail is from 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com, but you're not whitelisting 
  @mssupport.microsoft.com, you're whitelisting 
  .mssupport.microsoft.com.
  Darin.
  
  
  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Agid, Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:25 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with 
  Whitelisting
  
  Hello, 
  I am attempting to whitelist a couple of 
  sending domains, but my whitelisting doesn't seem to work. 
  I'm including the headers and the corresponding entries from my 
  whitelist. Please help me figure out why the messages are 
  not getting whitelisted.
  Thanks. 
  From renowhitelist.txt: .mssuppor

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help investigating abuse complaint

2004-11-17 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

The mail supposedly took the following route:

- cousinssubs.com (mail.cousinssubs.com [216.43.194.27])
- YahooBB218116092015.bbtec.net (Postfix)([218.116.92.15])
- mx4.uniserve.ca ([216.113.192.45])

We can assume that the first receive header is legit:

Received: from mx4.uniserve.ca ([216.113.192.45]) by mail-host.uniserve.ca
with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1CUJoZ-000Jyw-QH for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue,
16 Nov 2004 23:01:15 -0800

However that only shows that the mail was received from
YahooBB218116092015.bbtec.net [218.116.92.15].

The question is whether either party manages YahooBB218116092015.bbtec.net
[218.116.92.15].

If NOT then it is possible that this server was a hijacked/proxy or
otherwise abused server which then inserted a FAKE third received header
(in this case: mx4.uniserve.ca [216.113.192.45])

If YahooBB218116092015.bbtec.net [218.116.92.15] can be trusted to insert
only valid headers, THEN it would indeed implicate mx4.uniserve.ca
([216.113.192.45]) as the apparent originator of the email

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Ognenoff
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 03:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help investigating abuse complaint


Hello all,

I just received a complaint at our abuse@ address asking us to stop
spamming.  The guy sent me the message in question as an attachment and
after reviewing the headers and digging into the logs I need some help
deciphering what is going on here.

Here are the headers for the spam in question:

Received: from mx4.uniserve.ca ([216.113.192.45]) by mail-host.uniserve.ca
with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1CUJoZ-000Jyw-QH for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue,
16 Nov 2004 23:01:15 -0800
Received: from yahoobb218116092015.bbtec.net ([218.116.92.15]) by
mx4.uniserve.ca with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1CUJoY-000HAt-0B for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:01:14 -0800
Received: from cousinssubs.com (mail.cousinssubs.com [216.43.194.27]) by
YahooBB218116092015.bbtec.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B128F2E5 for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 06:42:47 +
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Reach B. Cubbyhole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Frankadsl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  RE: Hot Wemon nice pussy
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 06:42:47 +



The uniserve.ca references are the servers of the guy who complained.  The
mail.cousinssubs.com (216.43.194.27) is my mail server.  The other ones
referring to bbtec.net is where I am having trouble figuring out what
happened here.  Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect but it
looks like the message originated on my server, was relayed to the bbtec.net
server and then relayed to the uniserve.ca servers.

With that as my understanding of the chain, the log files don't make sense
to me.  In fact, I can't find any reference to 218.116.92.15 in my logs at
all for the last 3 days.  The references I can find for bbtec.net are SMTPD
entries of spam that was delivered to some of my local users but nothing to
indicate relaying that I can tell.

I have Relay Mail for Address set with my local IPs listed as well as
several external server IPs.  

Can anyone help me figure this out?  Does it look like something I can
control?  I would post log snippets but like I said I can't find anything to
indicate we sent this.

Andy Ognenoff
Online Systems Administrator
Direct: (262)250-2860
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-
Cousins Submarines, Inc.
http://www.cousinssubs.com



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help investigating abuse complaint

2004-11-17 Thread R. Scott Perry

Received: from mx4.uniserve.ca ([216.113.192.45]) by mail-host.uniserve.ca...
Received: from yahoobb218116092015.bbtec.net ([218.116.92.15]) by...
Received: from cousinssubs.com (mail.cousinssubs.com [216.43.194.27]) by...
The uniserve.ca references are the servers of the guy who complained.  The
mail.cousinssubs.com (216.43.194.27) is my mail server.
This one definitely did not come from IMail (if it did, there would be 
another Received: header -- IMail always adds one to E-mail it processes).

The only possibility of a problem on your end would be if your mailserver 
is compromised (which rarely happens, but still could be a possibility).

The other ones
referring to bbtec.net is where I am having trouble figuring out what
happened here.  Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect but it
looks like the message originated on my server, was relayed to the bbtec.net
server and then relayed to the uniserve.ca servers.
If the headers can be trusted, yes.
In this case, though, the header that mentions your IP is 
218.116.92.15.  However, the reverse DNS entry of 218.116.92.15 is 
YahooBB218116092015.bbtec.net.  I believe that is a Japanese subsidiary of 
Yahoo -- and if so, it definitely isn't trustable (a Yahoo mailserver 
should have some indication that it is a mailserver).

So either the spam came from 218.116.92.15, or the burden of proof lies 
with them.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help investigating abuse complaint

2004-11-17 Thread Andy Ognenoff
Thanks for your help Andy and Scott.  I thought this looked strange.

- Andy 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
 Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 3:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help investigating abuse complaint
 
 
 Received: from mx4.uniserve.ca ([216.113.192.45]) by mail-
 host.uniserve.ca...
 Received: from yahoobb218116092015.bbtec.net ([218.116.92.15]) by...
 Received: from cousinssubs.com (mail.cousinssubs.com [216.43.194.27])
 by...
 
 The uniserve.ca references are the servers of the guy who complained.
 The
 mail.cousinssubs.com (216.43.194.27) is my mail server.
 
 This one definitely did not come from IMail (if it did, there would be
 another Received: header -- IMail always adds one to E-mail it processes).
 
 The only possibility of a problem on your end would be if your mailserver
 is compromised (which rarely happens, but still could be a possibility).
 
 The other ones
 referring to bbtec.net is where I am having trouble figuring out what
 happened here.  Please correct me if my understanding is incorrect but it
 looks like the message originated on my server, was relayed to the
 bbtec.net
 server and then relayed to the uniserve.ca servers.
 
 If the headers can be trusted, yes.
 
 In this case, though, the header that mentions your IP is
 218.116.92.15.  However, the reverse DNS entry of 218.116.92.15 is
 YahooBB218116092015.bbtec.net.  I believe that is a Japanese subsidiary of
 Yahoo -- and if so, it definitely isn't trustable (a Yahoo mailserver
 should have some indication that it is a mailserver).
 
 So either the spam came from 218.116.92.15, or the burden of proof lies
 with them.
 
 -Scott



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help on diagnosing issue with IMail and MS SMTP connections

2004-10-13 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 20041013 062659 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (02f3ecee00c465f4)
 [208.7.179.200] connect 208.7.179.200 port 4767
 20041013 062659 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (02f3ecee00c465f4)
 [208.7.179.200] EHLO mx3.mailpure.com
 20041013 062659 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (02f3ecee00c465f4)
 [208.7.179.200] MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20041013 062659 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (02f3ecee00c465f4)
 [208.7.179.200] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20041013 062659 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (02f3ecee00c465f4)
 [208.7.179.200] F:\\D02f3ecee00c465f4.SMD 41743

Why  don't you go to the loopback address, instead of the external IP,
to eliminate unnecessary traffic on the NIC and take its driver out of
the pic?

--Sandy



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked

2004-09-04 Thread Scot Desort
How about the sending IP address -- does that match on any of the
'treated as local' lines?


On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 03:53:54 -, serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Problem is that treated as local lines have different session ids then the
 smtp lines
 it would have been so nice to have the same session id numbers, but that is
 not the case
 i wonder why
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Scot Desort [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 3:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
 
  search for treated as local in your IMAIL log. Try to find a line
  with that text, that also contains the same SMTPD session ID of
  11AF0190
 
  --
  Scot
 
 
  On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 02:21:10 -, serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  very possible
  but i am trying to find a way to find which account is beiing used
  is there a way to find the account that authorized the session ?
 
  Also, is there a log analyzer that can show the messages where the both
  the
  sender and the recipient are not local ?
 
  TIA
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 1:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
 
   Is it possible they guessed a users account/password and are using SMTP
   Auth
   to relay through your system?
  
   Darrell
  
   
   
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   - Original Message -
   From: serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:26 PM
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
  
  
   20040903 104237 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [208.154.200.6]
   connect
   61.144.136.193 port 4124
   20040903 104238 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] EHLO
   sapling
  
   these are the only other lines (11AF0190)
   [208.154.200.6] is my server ip
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:47 PM
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
  
  
You are missing a line. What does connect line show, which is the
line
before the MAIL FROM?
   
John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You
   
   
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of serge
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
   
Hi all
   
I have 100's of lines like:
20040903 104526 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193]
MAIL
FROM:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20040903 104529 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193]
RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20040903 104532 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193]
F:\Imail\spool\D4b4611af01909a4c.SMD 952
   
All from same IP [61.144.136.193], and all with same SMTPD
   (11AF0190),
also the spool file name is different
I have smtp set to relay for addresses, and they do not include
61.144.136.193
   
i can see no auth from 61.144.136.193 in the logs
   
i added 61.144.136.193 to smtp control access, but how can i
prevent
this
from happening, and how can i find how/why they gained access to my
server?
   
TIA
   
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked

2004-09-03 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
You are missing a line. What does connect line show, which is the line
before the MAIL FROM?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of serge
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
 
 Hi all
 
 I have 100's of lines like:
 20040903 104526 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] MAIL
FROM:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20040903 104529 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] RCPT
 TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20040903 104532 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193]
 F:\Imail\spool\D4b4611af01909a4c.SMD 952
 
 All from same IP [61.144.136.193], and all with same SMTPD (11AF0190),
 also the spool file name is different
 I have smtp set to relay for addresses, and they do not include
 61.144.136.193
 
 i can see no auth from 61.144.136.193 in the logs
 
 i added 61.144.136.193 to smtp control access, but how can i prevent
this
 from happening, and how can i find how/why they gained access to my
server?
 
 TIA
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked

2004-09-03 Thread serge
20040903 104237 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [208.154.200.6] connect 
61.144.136.193 port 4124
20040903 104238 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] EHLO 
sapling

these are the only other lines (11AF0190)
[208.154.200.6] is my server ip
- Original Message - 
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked


You are missing a line. What does connect line show, which is the line
before the MAIL FROM?
John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of serge
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
Hi all
I have 100's of lines like:
20040903 104526 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] MAIL
FROM:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20040903 104529 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20040903 104532 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193]
F:\Imail\spool\D4b4611af01909a4c.SMD 952
All from same IP [61.144.136.193], and all with same SMTPD (11AF0190),
also the spool file name is different
I have smtp set to relay for addresses, and they do not include
61.144.136.193
i can see no auth from 61.144.136.193 in the logs
i added 61.144.136.193 to smtp control access, but how can i prevent
this
from happening, and how can i find how/why they gained access to my
server?
TIA
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked

2004-09-03 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Is it possible they guessed a users account/password and are using SMTP Auth
to relay through your system?

Darrell



Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.
IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.

- Original Message - 
From: serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked


 20040903 104237 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [208.154.200.6] connect
 61.144.136.193 port 4124
 20040903 104238 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] EHLO
 sapling

 these are the only other lines (11AF0190)
 [208.154.200.6] is my server ip


 - Original Message - 
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:47 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked


  You are missing a line. What does connect line show, which is the line
  before the MAIL FROM?
 
  John Tolmachoff
  Engineer/Consultant/Owner
  eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of serge
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:36 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
 
  Hi all
 
  I have 100's of lines like:
  20040903 104526 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] MAIL
  FROM:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  20040903 104529 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] RCPT
  TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  20040903 104532 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193]
  F:\Imail\spool\D4b4611af01909a4c.SMD 952
 
  All from same IP [61.144.136.193], and all with same SMTPD
(11AF0190),
  also the spool file name is different
  I have smtp set to relay for addresses, and they do not include
  61.144.136.193
 
  i can see no auth from 61.144.136.193 in the logs
 
  i added 61.144.136.193 to smtp control access, but how can i prevent
  this
  from happening, and how can i find how/why they gained access to my
  server?
 
  TIA
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked

2004-09-03 Thread serge
very possible
but i am trying to find a way to find which account is beiing used
is there a way to find the account that authorized the session ?
Also, is there a log analyzer that can show the messages where the both the 
sender and the recipient are not local ?

TIA
- Original Message - 
From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked


Is it possible they guessed a users account/password and are using SMTP 
Auth
to relay through your system?

Darrell


Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.
IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, MRTG Integration, and Log 
Parsers.

- Original Message - 
From: serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked


20040903 104237 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [208.154.200.6] connect
61.144.136.193 port 4124
20040903 104238 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] EHLO
sapling
these are the only other lines (11AF0190)
[208.154.200.6] is my server ip
- Original Message - 
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked

 You are missing a line. What does connect line show, which is the line
 before the MAIL FROM?

 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of serge
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked

 Hi all

 I have 100's of lines like:
 20040903 104526 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] MAIL
 FROM:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20040903 104529 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] RCPT
 TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20040903 104532 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193]
 F:\Imail\spool\D4b4611af01909a4c.SMD 952

 All from same IP [61.144.136.193], and all with same SMTPD
(11AF0190),
 also the spool file name is different
 I have smtp set to relay for addresses, and they do not include
 61.144.136.193

 i can see no auth from 61.144.136.193 in the logs

 i added 61.144.136.193 to smtp control access, but how can i prevent
 this
 from happening, and how can i find how/why they gained access to my
 server?

 TIA

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked

2004-09-03 Thread Scot Desort
search for treated as local in your IMAIL log. Try to find a line
with that text, that also contains the same SMTPD session ID of
11AF0190

--
Scot


On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 02:21:10 -, serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 very possible
 but i am trying to find a way to find which account is beiing used
 is there a way to find the account that authorized the session ?
 
 Also, is there a log analyzer that can show the messages where the both the
 sender and the recipient are not local ?
 
 TIA
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 1:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
 
  Is it possible they guessed a users account/password and are using SMTP
  Auth
  to relay through your system?
 
  Darrell
 
  
  
  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
  Imail.
  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, MRTG Integration, and Log
  Parsers.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
 
 
  20040903 104237 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [208.154.200.6] connect
  61.144.136.193 port 4124
  20040903 104238 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] EHLO
  sapling
 
  these are the only other lines (11AF0190)
  [208.154.200.6] is my server ip
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:47 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
 
 
   You are missing a line. What does connect line show, which is the line
   before the MAIL FROM?
  
   John Tolmachoff
   Engineer/Consultant/Owner
   eServices For You
  
  
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of serge
   Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:36 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
  
   Hi all
  
   I have 100's of lines like:
   20040903 104526 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] MAIL
   FROM:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   20040903 104529 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] RCPT
   TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   20040903 104532 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193]
   F:\Imail\spool\D4b4611af01909a4c.SMD 952
  
   All from same IP [61.144.136.193], and all with same SMTPD
  (11AF0190),
   also the spool file name is different
   I have smtp set to relay for addresses, and they do not include
   61.144.136.193
  
   i can see no auth from 61.144.136.193 in the logs
  
   i added 61.144.136.193 to smtp control access, but how can i prevent
   this
   from happening, and how can i find how/why they gained access to my
   server?
  
   TIA
  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked

2004-09-03 Thread serge
Problem is that treated as local lines have different session ids then the 
smtp lines
it would have been so nice to have the same session id numbers, but that is 
not the case
i wonder why

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From: Scot Desort [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 3:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked


search for treated as local in your IMAIL log. Try to find a line
with that text, that also contains the same SMTPD session ID of
11AF0190
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On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 02:21:10 -, serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
very possible
but i am trying to find a way to find which account is beiing used
is there a way to find the account that authorized the session ?
Also, is there a log analyzer that can show the messages where the both 
the
sender and the recipient are not local ?

TIA

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Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
 Is it possible they guessed a users account/password and are using SMTP
 Auth
 to relay through your system?

 Darrell

 
 
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 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked


 20040903 104237 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [208.154.200.6] 
 connect
 61.144.136.193 port 4124
 20040903 104238 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] EHLO
 sapling

 these are the only other lines (11AF0190)
 [208.154.200.6] is my server ip


 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:47 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked


  You are missing a line. What does connect line show, which is the 
  line
  before the MAIL FROM?
 
  John Tolmachoff
  Engineer/Consultant/Owner
  eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of serge
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:36 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP, I'm beiing hijacked
 
  Hi all
 
  I have 100's of lines like:
  20040903 104526 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] 
  MAIL
  FROM:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  20040903 104529 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193] 
  RCPT
  TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  20040903 104532 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (11AF0190) [61.144.136.193]
  F:\Imail\spool\D4b4611af01909a4c.SMD 952
 
  All from same IP [61.144.136.193], and all with same SMTPD
 (11AF0190),
  also the spool file name is different
  I have smtp set to relay for addresses, and they do not include
  61.144.136.193
 
  i can see no auth from 61.144.136.193 in the logs
 
  i added 61.144.136.193 to smtp control access, but how can i 
  prevent
  this
  from happening, and how can i find how/why they gained access to my
  server?
 
  TIA
 
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