Re: [Declude.Virus] BanExt / Scan CC Ban Attachment

2004-12-16 Thread Greg Little
I think I understand the question.
I only get banned extension notices when there is no known virus.
I route these banned notices to a folder in my mail program for special 
attention (the virus name is in the subject).
The banned e-mails get checked by hand.
If it looks legit, I send a form letter to the source and destination. 
(... for your protection we are blocking .
The others are assumed to be either a new virus (first few hours) or a 
broken scrap returned by another mail system.

Greg
PS I'll revive a long term request.
When I try to guess if a banned e-mail is legit, the FULL file name and 
not just the extension would be a BIG help.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE

2004-03-26 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Double check the D file. There might be more than one attachment.

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 Hi all we just had a case where an email was banned because Declude said
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 What happened here?
 
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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE

2004-03-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

Hi all we just had a case where an email was banned because Declude said it
had an exe in the email, when it only had a TXT.
What happened here?
What happened is that either it contained an .exe file, or it had multiple 
extensions (in which case Declude Virus assumes the worst, that it is an 
.exe file).

If you send me the D*.SMD file that was quarantined, I can let you know 
exactly why it was blocked as an .exe file.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE

2004-03-26 Thread Jay Calvert
Scott,

I just sent it to you, please look for it, it came from our systems account.

Jay
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 Hi all we just had a case where an email was banned because Declude said
it
 had an exe in the email, when it only had a TXT.
 
 What happened here?

 What happened is that either it contained an .exe file, or it had multiple
 extensions (in which case Declude Virus assumes the worst, that it is an
 .exe file).

 If you send me the D*.SMD file that was quarantined, I can let you know
 exactly why it was blocked as an .exe file.

 -Scott
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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE

2004-03-26 Thread Rick Davidson
I have several examples of that from last night as well, all the txt
attachments were anti-virus generated attachments

03/25/2004 19:11:00 Q751409530072c4c8 MIME file: DELETED0.TXT
[quoted-printable; Length=113 Checksum=12852]
03/25/2004 19:11:00 Q751409530072c4c8 Banning file deleted0.txt.
03/25/2004 19:11:01 Q751409530072c4c8 Scanned: Banned file extension. [MIME:
3 1052]

Is there an explanation?

Rick Davidson
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North American Title Group
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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE

2004-03-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

I have several examples of that from last night as well, all the txt
attachments were anti-virus generated attachments
03/25/2004 19:11:00 Q751409530072c4c8 MIME file: DELETED0.TXT
[quoted-printable; Length=113 Checksum=12852]
03/25/2004 19:11:00 Q751409530072c4c8 Banning file deleted0.txt.
03/25/2004 19:11:01 Q751409530072c4c8 Scanned: Banned file extension. [MIME:
3 1052]
Is there an explanation?
Yes, there is an explanation.  My guess is that the AV programs didn't 
handle the MIME correctly, and said that it was an .exe file (or 
.pif/.scr/whatever) in one place and a .txt file in another.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE

2004-03-26 Thread Jay Calvert
Scott,

Did you receive the second email?

Jay
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 I have several examples of that from last night as well, all the txt
 attachments were anti-virus generated attachments
 
 03/25/2004 19:11:00 Q751409530072c4c8 MIME file: DELETED0.TXT
 [quoted-printable; Length=113 Checksum=12852]
 03/25/2004 19:11:00 Q751409530072c4c8 Banning file deleted0.txt.
 03/25/2004 19:11:01 Q751409530072c4c8 Scanned: Banned file extension.
[MIME:
 3 1052]
 
 Is there an explanation?

 Yes, there is an explanation.  My guess is that the AV programs didn't
 handle the MIME correctly, and said that it was an .exe file (or
 .pif/.scr/whatever) in one place and a .txt file in another.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE

2004-03-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

Hi all we just had a case where an email was banned because Declude said it
had an exe in the email, when it only had a TXT.
What happened here?
The problem here is that the mail client (a program whose name is as poor 
as its MIME handling:  Mail A.01.77) is giving out 2 different names for 
the file.  In one location, it calls the file EPM11002.FILES.CANJET, in 
the other location it calls it EPM11002.TXT.  While Declude Virus knows 
that a TXT file is safe, it doesn't know that a CANJET file is not 
safe.  To ensure that the extension gets handled properly (as the worst 
possible file extension), it is treated as an .EXE file.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE

2004-03-26 Thread Jay Calvert
But if this is the case, how will a file be caught if somebody renames a
.zip to a .zio?

Will declude know the difference. Would be wonderful if it did!

Jay
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 Hi all we just had a case where an email was banned because Declude said
it
 had an exe in the email, when it only had a TXT.
 
 What happened here?

 The problem here is that the mail client (a program whose name is as poor
 as its MIME handling:  Mail A.01.77) is giving out 2 different names for
 the file.  In one location, it calls the file EPM11002.FILES.CANJET, in
 the other location it calls it EPM11002.TXT.  While Declude Virus knows
 that a TXT file is safe, it doesn't know that a CANJET file is not
 safe.  To ensure that the extension gets handled properly (as the worst
 possible file extension), it is treated as an .EXE file.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE

2004-03-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

 The problem here is that the mail client (a program whose name is as poor
 as its MIME handling:  Mail A.01.77) is giving out 2 different names for
 the file.  In one location, it calls the file EPM11002.FILES.CANJET, in
 the other location it calls it EPM11002.TXT.  While Declude Virus knows
 that a TXT file is safe, it doesn't know that a CANJET file is not
 safe.  To ensure that the extension gets handled properly (as the worst
 possible file extension), it is treated as an .EXE file.

But if this is the case, how will a file be caught if somebody renames a
.zip to a .zio?
Will declude know the difference. Would be wonderful if it did!
That's something very different.  In the case here, the mail client is 
calling the E-mail both file.zip and file.zio (in which case Declude 
Virus assumes the worst, and treats it as a .exe).  In the case you are 
talking about, the file is named just file.zio (in which case it is 
handled as a .zio file -- and delivered, unless you block .zio files).

We are considering an option to automatically detect .ZIP files, even if 
they are renamed, just in case future viruses try asking their victims to 
rename the file before extracting and running the virus.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE

2004-03-26 Thread Jay Calvert
I was just thinking,  is there a way instead of having BANEXT, to allowed
EXT?

We want to cut down on employees bypassing the filters by renaming an
attachment  Maybe if it isn't in the list it is held for review

Will this stop blah.txt.exe files though if we wanted .txt's to get through


Jay
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 But if this is the case, how will a file be caught if somebody renames a
 .zip to a .zio?

 Will declude know the difference. Would be wonderful if it did!

 Jay
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 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT EXE


 
  Hi all we just had a case where an email was banned because Declude
said
 it
  had an exe in the email, when it only had a TXT.
  
  What happened here?
 
  The problem here is that the mail client (a program whose name is as
poor
  as its MIME handling:  Mail A.01.77) is giving out 2 different names
for
  the file.  In one location, it calls the file EPM11002.FILES.CANJET,
in
  the other location it calls it EPM11002.TXT.  While Declude Virus
knows
  that a TXT file is safe, it doesn't know that a CANJET file is not
  safe.  To ensure that the extension gets handled properly (as the worst
  possible file extension), it is treated as an .EXE file.
 
  -Scott
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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT question

2004-03-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No such thing as BANEXT EZIP??
 Taken from one of Scott's posts:

Gary

From: R. Scott Perry
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Scan Password Protected Zip's
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:44:39 -0800




Do you think moving to 1.78i7 will help with this issue?

  I would recommend doing that, and using the BANEZIPEXTS ON option
instead of the old BANEXT EZIP option. The new one should work much better.

  -Scott


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As Don said, there is no such thing as BANEXT EZIP.

Try reading the archives again.

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 I'm currently using: BANEXT  EZIP, becuase BANEZIP ON does not work for
 me.
 I'm running the latest intrum version of Declude w/ F-Prot. I have a
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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT question

2004-03-08 Thread R. Scott Perry

No such thing as BANEXT EZIP??
I believe he meant There is no such thing as BANEZIP ON (because there 
isn't one of those).  But Don re-posted the summary that I had sent out 
last week, which has all the details in it.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT question

2004-03-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Tis what I get for trying to think at such an hour. :S

Rereading your posts, yes, I meant BANEZIP ON does not exist.

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 No such thing as BANEXT EZIP??
 
 I believe he meant There is no such thing as BANEZIP ON (because there
 isn't one of those).  But Don re-posted the summary that I had sent out
 last week, which has all the details in it.
 
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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT question

2004-03-07 Thread Don Hickey
Scott, posted this last week:

With the latest interim release, you can use:

BANEXT EZIP - This line will ban all .ZIP files with an
encrypted file in them
BANZIPEXTS ON   - This line (Pro version only) will ban all file extensions
listed in BANEXT lines, if they appear in non-encrypted .ZIP files
BANEZIPEXTS ON  - This line (Pro version only) will ban all file extensions
listed in BANEXT lines, if they appear in encrypted .ZIP files

Also, the latest interim (with the Pro version only) will detect bogus
.BAT/.COM/.PIF/.SCR files (automatically as vulnerabilities, with no need
for config file entries).

If you are having any troubles with these, please re-read the information
on them, and then be very clear what is happening.  There are a lot of
possibilities here.  You'll need to specify [1] Whether you are using
BANZIPEXTS ON or BANEZIPEXTS ON (or the not-recommended-but-still-useful
BANEXT EZIP), [2] Whether you have a BANEXT line to block the appropriate
file (BANEXT com, for example), [3] What type of file you are sending
through (.com? .com within a .zip?), [4] If it is a .ZIP file, is the file
inside it encrypted, and [5] What version of Declude Virus are you running
(Lite/Standard/Pro, and which version # such as 1.78i8)?

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 I'm currently using: BANEXT  EZIP, becuase BANEZIP ON does not work for
me.
 I'm running the latest intrum version of Declude w/ F-Prot. I have a
 Standard Declude license. Does BANEZIP ON only work for the Pro version of
 Declude? If yes, I guess I should just continue to use BANEXT EZIP ?

 (Such a wonderful product!)

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Banext and bannotify.eml questions

2004-03-02 Thread bill.maillists
Scott,

Can I configure the bannotify.eml to not send messages to the sender of 
the file, but to send them only to the recipient and to me.

Not currently.


Isn't it possible to modify the Bannotify.eml file and only include the recipient and 
postmaster? Would it still send a notice to the sender somehow?

I have the same situation here. Most dangerous file attachments are stripped by my 
firewall, but I'm using Declude to stop zips and review them in the virus directory 
(Thank you for that feature).

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banext and bannotify.eml questions

2004-03-02 Thread Grant Griffith
I updated the bannotify.eml file to send to our tech support email, will
this not work?  I have not received any of them, but just set this up this
morning...

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith, Vice President
EI8HT LEGS Web Management Co., Inc.
http://www.getafreewebsite.com
877-483-3393

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Scott,

Can I configure the bannotify.eml to not send messages to the sender of
the file, but to send them only to the recipient and to me.

Not currently.


Isn't it possible to modify the Bannotify.eml file and only include the
recipient and postmaster? Would it still send a notice to the sender
somehow?

I have the same situation here. Most dangerous file attachments are stripped
by my firewall, but I'm using Declude to stop zips and review them in the
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Banext and bannotify.eml questions

2004-03-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

Can I configure the bannotify.eml to not send messages to the sender of 
the file, but to send them only to the recipient and to me.
Not currently.
Actually, I believe this can be done, by using a line To: 
%ALLRECIPS%,[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the \IMail\Declude\BANnotify.eml file.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banext and bannotify.eml questions

2004-03-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

OK, I have it the other way around, does that matter?
No.  Any E-mail addresses that appear after To:  and that are separated 
by commas will work.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banext and bannotify.eml questions

2004-03-02 Thread Grant Griffith
OK, I have it the other way around, does that matter?
[EMAIL PROTECTED],%MailFrom%  or something like that?

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith, Vice President
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Isn't it possible to modify the Bannotify.eml file and only include the
recipient and postmaster? Would it still send a notice to the sender
somehow?

The notification will be sent to anyone listed in the To: header.  In this
case, you can use To: %ALLRECIPS%,[EMAIL PROTECTED].

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT

2004-02-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 BANEXTdata

Does not look to be executable.
http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=dataSubmit3=Go%21

 BANEXTlink

No such extension found.
http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=linkgoButton=Go

 BANEXTunk

No such extension found.
http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=unk

 BANEXTuue

Some kind of encoded file, maybe compressed.
http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=uue

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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT

2004-02-01 Thread Darin Cox
Good list, John.  Thanks for sharing.

Darin.


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 What are the recommended extensions to BAN?

http://www.eservicesforyou.com/documents/emailattachments.pdf

 How do you handle it if someone needs to send a file through...sometimes
 there will be legitimate files that need to be send through.

I tell them to zip it.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT

2004-02-01 Thread marc catuogno
That was a great list.  I have the following extensions blocked as well:

BANEXT  data
BANEXT  link
BANEXT  unk
BANEXT  uue

I wish I remember why - but I imagine it won't hurt...

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Good list, John.  Thanks for sharing.

Darin.


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 What are the recommended extensions to BAN?

http://www.eservicesforyou.com/documents/emailattachments.pdf

 How do you handle it if someone needs to send a file through...sometimes
 there will be legitimate files that need to be send through.

I tell them to zip it.

John Tolmachoff
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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT

2004-01-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 What are the recommended extensions to BAN?

http://www.eservicesforyou.com/documents/emailattachments.pdf

 How do you handle it if someone needs to send a file through...sometimes
 there will be legitimate files that need to be send through.

I tell them to zip it.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT

2004-01-28 Thread andyb
Would you be willing to send the list as a text file?

Thanks, Andy

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  What are the recommended extensions to BAN?

 http://www.eservicesforyou.com/documents/emailattachments.pdf

  How do you handle it if someone needs to send a file through...sometimes
  there will be legitimate files that need to be send through.

 I tell them to zip it.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT

2004-01-27 Thread Robert Grosshandler
Well, yes!  If I open a zip and catch a virus, woe on me.  I'm supposed to
be experienced enough not to do that.  Plus, my personal machine is
definitely as up to date as possible on virus defs.

Rob

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Geeze.. So you want the virus to only effect certain users?

~Rick

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 Thanks to all for the quick notification of the new virus.
 We seemed to have escaped any harm.
 
 We immediately put BANEXT zip into our virus.cfg file, and
 that seemed to be a good thing.
 
 Now I'm thinking about lowering our protection back to where it was.
 
 Is it possible, with Virus Standard, and/or Junkmail Pro, to
 ban by extension for just some users?
 
 Or, better yet, conversely ban an extension for all user
 EXCEPT certain power users?
 
 Inquring minds want to know.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT

2004-01-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
FYI, 75% of desktops will not have the correct updated definitions for this
for at least a few hours after the outbreak occurs, do to the nature of
definition updates and propagation thereof.

John Tolmachoff
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT
 
 Well, yes!  If I open a zip and catch a virus, woe on me.  I'm supposed to
 be experienced enough not to do that.  Plus, my personal machine is
 definitely as up to date as possible on virus defs.
 
 Rob
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Klinge
 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:11 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT
 
 
 Geeze.. So you want the virus to only effect certain users?
 
 ~Rick
 
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  Grosshandler
  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:19 PM
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  Subject: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT
 
 
  Thanks to all for the quick notification of the new virus.
  We seemed to have escaped any harm.
 
  We immediately put BANEXT zip into our virus.cfg file, and
  that seemed to be a good thing.
 
  Now I'm thinking about lowering our protection back to where it was.
 
  Is it possible, with Virus Standard, and/or Junkmail Pro, to
  ban by extension for just some users?
 
  Or, better yet, conversely ban an extension for all user
  EXCEPT certain power users?
 
  Inquring minds want to know.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT

2004-01-26 Thread Rick Klinge
Geeze.. So you want the virus to only effect certain users?

~Rick

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 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:19 PM
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 Subject: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT
 
 
 Thanks to all for the quick notification of the new virus.  
 We seemed to have escaped any harm.
 
 We immediately put BANEXT zip into our virus.cfg file, and 
 that seemed to be a good thing.
 
 Now I'm thinking about lowering our protection back to where it was.
 
 Is it possible, with Virus Standard, and/or Junkmail Pro, to 
 ban by extension for just some users?
 
 Or, better yet, conversely ban an extension for all user 
 EXCEPT certain power users?
 
 Inquring minds want to know.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT to delete all .pif?

2003-08-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

Just like everyone else, we are getting hammered by Sobig.F.  Declude seems
to be catching and holding the virus e-mails with the attachments because of
the BANEXT option.  The potential exists to overload our hard drive. There
were over 3,000 held messages today (that is about 2x what we would normally
do in a day)and I'm worried that with some minor modification some idiot
could make this send out a larger file. Is anyone else setting to
Deletevirus to on to address this and will that cause the held messages to
be deleted for BANEXT?
No, there isn't.

However, if the E-mail is caught due to a banned file extension, that means 
that the virus scanner is not catching it, which is normally a serious problem.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT to delete all .pif?

2003-08-20 Thread Marc Catuogno
I thought BANEXT worked before the scanner?  DAMN... maybe my f-protect.exe
is old and not catching viruses?



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Just like everyone else, we are getting hammered by Sobig.F.  Declude seems
to be catching and holding the virus e-mails with the attachments because
of
the BANEXT option.  The potential exists to overload our hard drive. There
were over 3,000 held messages today (that is about 2x what we would
normally
do in a day)and I'm worried that with some minor modification some idiot
could make this send out a larger file. Is anyone else setting to
Deletevirus to on to address this and will that cause the held messages
to
be deleted for BANEXT?

No, there isn't.

However, if the E-mail is caught due to a banned file extension, that means
that the virus scanner is not catching it, which is normally a serious
problem.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT to delete all .pif?

2003-08-20 Thread Marc Catuogno
I just ran a manual scan on the spool virus directory with F-protect and it
identified all the held viruses as [EMAIL PROTECTED] - BUT I did run an update
immediately before that even though I ran it this morning.

Marc

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 04:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT to delete all .pif?



Just like everyone else, we are getting hammered by Sobig.F.  Declude seems
to be catching and holding the virus e-mails with the attachments because
of
the BANEXT option.  The potential exists to overload our hard drive. There
were over 3,000 held messages today (that is about 2x what we would
normally
do in a day)and I'm worried that with some minor modification some idiot
could make this send out a larger file. Is anyone else setting to
Deletevirus to on to address this and will that cause the held messages
to
be deleted for BANEXT?

No, there isn't.

However, if the E-mail is caught due to a banned file extension, that means
that the virus scanner is not catching it, which is normally a serious
problem.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT to delete all .pif?

2003-08-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

I thought BANEXT worked before the scanner?
Both are done on all E-mail, and if a virus is found, it takes priority 
over the banned file extension.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] banext notification

2003-08-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

I'm thinking of leaving the banext in place but want to allert the sender 
and/or recipient when a mail is being held. I've downloaded the 
BANnotify.eml file but don't see how Declude decides when to use it. Do I 
need to put any extra control lines at the beginning?
Declude knows by the name of the file, so you don't need to worry about 
control lines in there.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT question.....

2003-04-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is there a way to just refuse attachments of certain types? instead of
quarantined OR strip the attachment off? I don't want to bounce messages,
I'd be happy with just removing the attachment. maybe add a line to the
mail Attachment removed ? Is this possible? Or something we can add?
No, that isn't possible.  Altering or removing attachments get very 
complex, and with the newly discovered vulnerabilities, it becomes very 
dangerous (meaning that by stripping certain attachment types, future 
viruses could bypass the attachment stripping).
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT SHS

2002-12-16 Thread John Tolmachoff
http://www.antichip.org/virusinfo/extensions.html
http://www.internetworking.ch/htme/security13.htm
http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/stages.shtml
http://www.quickheal.com/stages.htm
http://www.geocities.com/floydian_99/inv2.html
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/vuln-dev/1999-q4/0122.html

Hope that helps.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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Subject: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT SHS

I have 2 people that are mad at me for blocking the SHS extension. Are there
any web pages from anti virus companies or some such Authority that I can
send them on why I am blocking it?

They say they are sending a Christmas card.

Sheldon


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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT SHS

2002-12-16 Thread Sheldon Koehler
 Hope that helps.

Thanks John!

Sheldon


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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT settings

2002-09-04 Thread R. Scott Perry


I just implimented the BANEXT in my virus.cfg and added the bannotify.eml to
my Declude directory.  The notify only goes out to the sender and I would
like to know when a banned extension tries to come in as well.  I know I
could just add an additional entry to the to: field of bannotify.eml but
I'd rather not advertise to the sender that I'm getting the notify as well.
Is there a way to BCC or is there another EML type that I can use to notify
the postmaster?

There is no way to add a Bcc: field -- the only way you can get a copy as 
well is by adding yourself to the To: line (To: 
%MAILFROM%,[EMAIL PROTECTED]).
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT settings

2002-09-04 Thread Rodney Bertsch

Thanks, will do Scott!

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Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT settings



I just implimented the BANEXT in my virus.cfg and added the bannotify.eml
to
my Declude directory.  The notify only goes out to the sender and I would
like to know when a banned extension tries to come in as well.  I know I
could just add an additional entry to the to: field of bannotify.eml but
I'd rather not advertise to the sender that I'm getting the notify as well.
Is there a way to BCC or is there another EML type that I can use to notify
the postmaster?

There is no way to add a Bcc: field -- the only way you can get a copy as
well is by adding yourself to the To: line (To:
%MAILFROM%,[EMAIL PROTECTED]).
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.Virus] banext issue

2002-08-09 Thread Bob McGregor


The catch here is that BinHex (Mac encoding) files have the filename within 
the encoded segment.  So you can have a situation where the MIME filename 
is safefile.txt, but the BinHex segment says the filename is 
evilvirus.exe (which you won't see, because it is encoded).
 -Scott

Here are the attachment headers from the message. I just want to make sure.

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=HOPE COVER
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=HOPE COVER

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=GFSD Handout
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=GFSD Handout

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=middle school scenario
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=middle school scenario

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=One Solution Syndrome
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=One Solution Syndrome


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Re: [Declude.Virus] banext issue

2002-08-09 Thread R. Scott Perry

Those headers won't affect whether or not Declude bans the files -- the 
*real* filename is one you won't see, becaues it is encoded.

You can send a copy of the E-mail file to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , and I can 
test it here to see what the real extensions are.
-Scott

At 11:11 AM 8/9/2002, you wrote:

 The catch here is that BinHex (Mac encoding) files have the filename within
 the encoded segment.  So you can have a situation where the MIME filename
 is safefile.txt, but the BinHex segment says the filename is
 evilvirus.exe (which you won't see, because it is encoded).
  -Scott
 
Here are the attachment headers from the message. I just want to make sure.

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=HOPE COVER
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=HOPE COVER

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=GFSD Handout
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=GFSD Handout

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=middle school scenario
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=middle school scenario

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=One Solution Syndrome
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=One Solution Syndrome


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Re: [Declude.Virus] banext issue

2002-08-09 Thread Bob McGregor

ok, so next question... if declude caught the attachment why did it not list with the 
%BANEXT% variable?  That variable was blank.  How would I determine what file 
extension was caught.  I'm just trying to understand...

On Friday, August 9, 2002 9:17 AM, R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those headers won't affect whether or not Declude bans the files -- the 
*real* filename is one you won't see, becaues it is encoded.

You can send a copy of the E-mail file to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , and I can 
test it here to see what the real extensions are.
-Scott

At 11:11 AM 8/9/2002, you wrote:

 The catch here is that BinHex (Mac encoding) files have the filename within
 the encoded segment.  So you can have a situation where the MIME filename
 is safefile.txt, but the BinHex segment says the filename is
 evilvirus.exe (which you won't see, because it is encoded).
  -Scott
 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] banext issue

2002-08-09 Thread John Tolmachoff

Scott, please post, (although I know you will) what your findings are as
we also have clients with MAC users.

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 8:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] banext issue

Those headers won't affect whether or not Declude bans the files -- the 
*real* filename is one you won't see, becaues it is encoded.

You can send a copy of the E-mail file to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , and I
can 
test it here to see what the real extensions are.
-Scott

At 11:11 AM 8/9/2002, you wrote:

 The catch here is that BinHex (Mac encoding) files have the filename
within
 the encoded segment.  So you can have a situation where the MIME
filename
 is safefile.txt, but the BinHex segment says the filename is
 evilvirus.exe (which you won't see, because it is encoded).
  -Scott
 
Here are the attachment headers from the message. I just want to make
sure.

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=HOPE COVER
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=HOPE COVER

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=GFSD Handout
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=GFSD Handout

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=middle school scenario
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=middle school scenario

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=One Solution Syndrome
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=One Solution Syndrome


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Re: [Declude.Virus] banext issue

2002-08-09 Thread Bob McGregor

I did not catch that you wanted the message How do I go about taking something 
from the virus folder, change the recipient to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

just copy and change the sender in both files?

On Friday, August 9, 2002 9:54 AM, John Tolmachoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Scott, please post, (although I know you will) what your findings are as
we also have clients with MAC users.

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 8:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] banext issue

Those headers won't affect whether or not Declude bans the files -- the 
*real* filename is one you won't see, becaues it is encoded.

You can send a copy of the E-mail file to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , and I
can 
test it here to see what the real extensions are.
-Scott

At 11:11 AM 8/9/2002, you wrote:

 The catch here is that BinHex (Mac encoding) files have the filename
within
 the encoded segment.  So you can have a situation where the MIME
filename
 is safefile.txt, but the BinHex segment says the filename is
 evilvirus.exe (which you won't see, because it is encoded).
  -Scott
 
Here are the attachment headers from the message. I just want to make
sure.

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=HOPE COVER
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=HOPE COVER

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=GFSD Handout
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=GFSD Handout

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=middle school scenario
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=middle school scenario

--WBE1028896920052e2aec2af3c9e93cad6a0ff23d4e75
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name=One Solution Syndrome
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=One Solution Syndrome


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Re: [Declude.Virus] banext issue

2002-08-09 Thread R. Scott Perry


I did not catch that you wanted the message How do I go about taking 
something from the virus folder, change the recipient to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

just copy and change the sender in both files?

Probably the easiest thing to do would be to send the .SMD file (from the 
virus folder) as an attachment.  I'll still get the original E-mail that 
way, and can still test it.
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Re: [Declude.Virus] banext issue

2002-08-09 Thread Bob McGregor

ok scott, I'll get the latest thanks for looking into it.

Insidently, I see that all the time with mac files... spaces at the end pain in the 
_ss

On Friday, August 9, 2002 11:18 AM, R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

so, I looked at the message in the virus folder and there were 4 
attachments to the message, none of them had extensions. (all
mac files)

Actually, it turns out that this isn't related to the BinHex files -- the 
problem has to do with the attachments not having extensions (and having 
spaces in them).  If you upgrade to the latest beta, it will take care of 
the problem.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT notify

2002-06-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


I have the BANEXT and the notify working fine. My question is there a way to
send the notify email to the postmaster (me) also to let me know that
someone tried to send a banned extension?

You can have:

 To: %MAILFROM%,[EMAIL PROTECTED]

in the \IMail\Declude\BANnotify.eml file, which will send it to both addresses.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT notify

2002-06-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


Can I downoload the BANnotify.eml template from somewhere?

Yes, you can download it from 
http://www.declude.com/release/154/bannotify.eml .  Further details on 
banning file extensions can be found at 
http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm in the Banning files based on 
extension section.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT notify

2002-06-12 Thread Dustin Freeman

Thanks all

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From: Dustin Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:25 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT notify


Can I downoload the BANnotify.eml template from somewhere?

-Original Message-
From: Don Hickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT notify


I have the BANEXT and the notify working fine. My question is there a way to
send the notify email to the postmaster (me) also to let me know that
someone tried to send a banned extension?

Thanks

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT maybe not working?

2001-12-07 Thread Dan Spangenberg

OK. I didn't understand the order. It is good this way.
I too like the fact that it serves as a failsafe after the virus scan.

Thanks!
Dan

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 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT maybe not working?


  the virus scanning takes priority over the banning.  That is,
 the E-mail
 will be scanned for viruses first, and only if the E-mail is
 virus-free will
 the file extension banning be done. 

 Thank you and PLEASE remember to keep it in that sequence. g  It takes
 extra CPU time to first run the virus scan - but at least it will be
 detected as a virus and helps advertising the fact that we
 virus-scan.  The
 Extension ban should just be the final straw when the virus scanner
 fails - just as you implemented it NOW.

 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt

 HM Systems Software, Inc.
 600 East Crescent Avenue
 Suite 203
 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206

 http://www.hm-software.com/

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